Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. I'my host Rams' John.
Speaker 2: They called me q Ward and that just so happens
Speaker 2: to be part of my government named Ramses. What up?
Speaker 2: Don't a week as usual?
Speaker 1: But we got a few things to talk about that
Speaker 1: aren't just specific to this week.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Have been conversations, if you will, baseless in my opinion,
Speaker 1: but conversations in the black community for ever, really since
Speaker 1: I've been born. Clicked on one of them is well,
Speaker 1: what is the government doing for me?
Speaker 2: And I want to talk.
Speaker 1: About That's a loaded question, right right, because you know
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's a there's a good reason to
Speaker 1: ask those questions. But you know there's there's a you know,
Speaker 1: a glass half full and a glass half empty way
Speaker 1: of looking at you know, politics from this vantage point,
Speaker 1: from a decided from a black vantage point, and so yes,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's some folks that will look at
Speaker 1: it and think, you know, the government does nothing for us,
Speaker 1: We're forgotten you know this, that and the third. And
Speaker 1: then there's some people who look at the progress, no
Speaker 1: matter how small, and think, okay, well we're moving in
Speaker 1: the right direction. This is this is just kind of
Speaker 1: the hand we've been dealt. It's not perfect, but you know,
Speaker 1: the world will be a little bit better when I
Speaker 1: leave it than it was when I entered it, and
Speaker 1: that is energizing to some degree. The thing is, I
Speaker 1: tend to be of the latter mindset more often than not.
Speaker 1: I I tend to look at, you know, Okay, what
Speaker 1: has been accomplished in my lifetime? What was the world
Speaker 1: I was born into? What is the world I'm in now?
Speaker 1: What will the world look like when.
Speaker 2: I leave it?
Speaker 1: And you know, there's some things when I look around
Speaker 1: and I say, okay, well, I've seen a black president.
Speaker 1: I voted for.
Speaker 2: Him twice, you know, two times.
Speaker 1: Right, I've seen the first female vice president of the
Speaker 1: United States was black.
Speaker 2: Is black? I've seen.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously during the uh, the the dark Trump years,
Speaker 1: we saw that there's still a lot out there that
Speaker 1: needs to be dealt with. But you know, overall, I
Speaker 1: feel very optimistic about the trajectory of this country.
Speaker 2: Bless your heart.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's that's kind of what I'm a
Speaker 1: casework I do feel optimistic. I think that for the
Speaker 1: most part, you know, there's enough of you got to
Speaker 1: bear in mind that Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen did win.
Speaker 2: The popular vote.
Speaker 1: You know, so there are more people that will stand
Speaker 1: opposed to racism and misogyny and all these terrible things
Speaker 1: that have held black people and round people back. There's
Speaker 1: more people that will stand against that than there are
Speaker 1: that will stand for it, as illustrated by the past
Speaker 1: two elections.
Speaker 2: Trouble vote trouble is. I think there's been the case
Speaker 2: for a long time, but our country has done nothing
Speaker 2: to correct the system that lets the minority win right, right.
Speaker 1: And actively, or it continues to allow we'll call it
Speaker 1: what it is, the right to disenfranchise voters based on
Speaker 1: non since right, jerry mandering, et cetera. You know, there's
Speaker 1: lots more people that should be voting in these elections,
Speaker 1: and every vote should count, and the way it works now,
Speaker 1: I think I saw the Netflix documentary that a white
Speaker 1: man voter from Wyoming is worth like one point seventy
Speaker 1: five votes, you know, in terms of its actual impact
Speaker 1: in the political political sphere, you know, than a person
Speaker 1: in California. You know. So it's this these white males,
Speaker 1: still based on the weight of their vote, still control
Speaker 1: disproportionately a disproportionate amount of policies and and you know,
Speaker 1: elections and so forth.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the electoral college. No, let's never shut
Speaker 2: that out.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's some there's some people who take
Speaker 1: a a different approach. There's some people who try to
Speaker 1: see the world as perfect.
Speaker 2: As it is.
Speaker 1: They try to ignore the past, and or otherwise they
Speaker 1: try to condemn the the plight of black people, or
Speaker 1: otherwise they're extremely critical of black people in their our
Speaker 1: quest to have to live in a more equal world,
Speaker 1: a fairer go at life. And some of these people
Speaker 1: are names that you well know. Candice Owens is one
Speaker 1: of them, and Marcellus Wiley is another one. And before
Speaker 1: we talk about what I want to talk about, which
Speaker 1: is what has Joe Biden done so far with his
Speaker 1: executive orders that have affected black people? Because that's a
Speaker 1: conversation that I've been hearing a lot. You know, Oh all,
Speaker 1: y'all went out and voted for this man, he still
Speaker 1: hasn't done nothing for you. Because I want to talk
Speaker 1: about that, you know, and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: what executive orders actually are so that you know, people
Speaker 1: can be educated and we can maintain a little bit
Speaker 1: of optimism because it seems like a lot of folks
Speaker 1: are feeling real pessimistic right now, which I understand.
Speaker 2: It didn't help that they came into it looking to
Speaker 2: feel pessimistic, like.
Speaker 1: Nothing is good enough sort of people, you know, But
Speaker 1: you know, we got to talk to them. We're all
Speaker 1: in this together, so we got to deal with these
Speaker 1: people who are scared of everything, and I think everybody's
Speaker 1: out to get them specifically, and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So you had some real strong opinions about some of
Speaker 1: these folks, so I want you to talk about those
Speaker 1: before we get to Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Well, I really only want to talk about one of them,
Speaker 2: all right, and then we just have some examples of
Speaker 2: people that are from that same school of thought. Okay,
Speaker 2: I've been ah, I guess fan is the right word.
Speaker 2: Of this show called Real Time on HBO. The host
Speaker 2: is a comedian and political pundit named Bill Marr, someone
Speaker 2: that our former president loathed, which made him a friend
Speaker 2: of mine off bat like, oh dude, don't rock with
Speaker 2: you heavy? Are you my man? Like? But even prior
Speaker 2: to that, I've been you know, watching him following this
Speaker 2: show for a long time. He tends to have a
Speaker 2: pretty pragmatic approach to politics. Rich white guy that kind
Speaker 2: of always stands up for the little guy, right. He
Speaker 2: didn't vote, He doesn't vote his best interest. He's a
Speaker 2: rich white celebrity, the type of person that Donald Trump
Speaker 2: went to bat for. He just like I figured all
Speaker 2: of our friends and colleagues and allies would be smart
Speaker 2: enough to see that to do wasn't a good person,
Speaker 2: no matter what he did for you in your bank account,
Speaker 2: no matter what political plays he ran, he was just
Speaker 2: an awful person. And you know it was pretty see through.
Speaker 2: There was no veil. He didn't even pretend. Okay, never mind,
Speaker 2: because I don't want to take the twenty steps back
Speaker 2: that I'm about to. But he had a guest on Friday,
Speaker 2: and I typically, if I'm working and for you and
Speaker 2: I every weekend Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That was the truth.
Speaker 2: I would always either watch it on DVR in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night after work, or I would tune
Speaker 2: into the podcast when I was driving, essentially just the
Speaker 2: audio from the show presented as a podcast. And I'm
Speaker 2: driving home listening to the podcast, and I hear this
Speaker 2: voice talking about white privilege and systemic racism both being
Speaker 2: myths perpetuated by left wing extremist forgive me for laughing, people,
Speaker 2: but it's twenty and twenty one and after. If you
Speaker 2: were an observer and all you ever saw of America
Speaker 2: was twenty twenty, it'd be very, very difficult, even with
Speaker 2: that little bit of data, to say that systemic racism
Speaker 2: and white privilege didn't exist. Not. The funny thing is,
Speaker 2: I'm listening to a podcast, so I can't see who's talking.
Speaker 2: But the first thing that bothered me is that Bill,
Speaker 2: the person who typically is on the right side of things,
Speaker 2: is agreeing with the voice that I hear. And I'm
Speaker 2: confused at this point, to a point where my stomachs
Speaker 2: start to like get uneasy, like I was actually upset.
Speaker 2: So there's a third person on the panel, uh, a
Speaker 2: white guy who couldn't help himself but to interject like
Speaker 2: almost like wait, what are you guys? What are you
Speaker 2: guys talking about? Like, so we're all sitting here saying
Speaker 2: that white privilege isn't a thing, systemic racism isn't the thing.
Speaker 2: Like that's we're on HBO. Sure you want to go
Speaker 2: down there. That's that's where we are right now. And
Speaker 2: he doesn't like he didn't riot for he and turned
Speaker 2: to Huey P. Newton. But you could just tell like
Speaker 2: he's the he's the bystander that's.
Speaker 1: Sitting there, like, Okay, I don't like even I don't
Speaker 1: typically ride for Black lives matter, but like this is
Speaker 1: this is where we are right now on Bill Maher's
Speaker 1: show on the guy who just spent the last four
Speaker 1: years stumping his feet to get this president out of office.
Speaker 2: You're okay, I guess that's where we are. I'll be
Speaker 2: I'll be quiet. And Bill made reference to something something, something,
Speaker 2: the white guy, and I said, oh, so one of
Speaker 2: these guys must not be white if he's pointing out
Speaker 2: that the white guy is the one that has something
Speaker 2: to say. And you know, lo and behold. I google
Speaker 2: Camille Foster, handsome, articulate, educated black man, and it was
Speaker 2: like getting punched in the stomach, because in this country,
Speaker 2: there will always be a camera and a microphone and
Speaker 2: an opportunity for a well spoken, educated black person that
Speaker 2: will take that stance. There'll always be a job, an
Speaker 2: opportunity to check a camera microphone. They will they will
Speaker 2: help you get that off.
Speaker 1: They need that for their contrass. Oh my god, goodness, listen,
Speaker 1: this one person said it so clearly.
Speaker 2: He agrees with me, and he's black, and you know
Speaker 2: he's not. He's sadly not a singular case. And there's
Speaker 2: a psychological question that I have to pose to you
Speaker 2: what happens where, especially in the cases of some of
Speaker 2: these people that I'm listening, All of these people that
Speaker 2: I'm listening, what are their names? Candice Owens, Marcellus Willy,
Speaker 2: Jason Whitlock, and the afore mentioned Camille Foster. They come
Speaker 2: from where we come from. They reach some level of success,
Speaker 2: maybe because we know this in this capitalist society, they
Speaker 2: make a lot of money, and maybe there daily isn't
Speaker 2: what it used to be. But how do they forget
Speaker 2: that it used to be that and or displaced themselves
Speaker 2: from their brothers and sisters who still experienced that stuff
Speaker 2: in a very very real way on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 1: I think that, at least for me, it's a matter
Speaker 1: of what is in your hard Some people like you
Speaker 1: know these people, there's some people that they get money
Speaker 1: no matter what, at any cost, right, you know, these
Speaker 1: type of people, they don't care who they hurt. Who
Speaker 1: they got to stomp on, what the price is, if
Speaker 1: someone might come and kill them, if they got to
Speaker 1: rob whatever it is. There's sometimes there are business people
Speaker 1: sometimes whatever they will undercut, they will do the most
Speaker 1: savage things, right sharks and bloody water. That personality type
Speaker 1: is something that can be found and people of all
Speaker 1: colors and people at all different walks of life and
Speaker 1: all different stations in life. And I think that most
Speaker 1: of the time people that adopt black people, that adopt
Speaker 1: those what I would consider anti black sentiments and then
Speaker 1: share them with, you know, white folks, especially those white
Speaker 1: folks that really need to hear that so that they
Speaker 1: can feel better about their own racist practices, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of confronting them and really dealing with them. I
Speaker 1: think that those black people have that sort of personality type.
Speaker 1: They'll sell their own children, you know, they'll sell of course,
Speaker 1: they'll sell their people out, you know. And again, if
Speaker 1: you're articulate enough, you can make anything sound good. You
Speaker 1: and I had an experience once upon a time.
Speaker 2: This was we were at a school.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember the story, but there
Speaker 1: was a woman that worked at the school and I
Speaker 1: think at the time we were talking about it might
Speaker 1: have been a police shooting, because this was before there
Speaker 1: was any Donald Trump or anything like that, so it
Speaker 1: might have been a police shooting of a black person.
Speaker 1: And so that conversation was in the air, and you know,
Speaker 1: you and I were talking about something, and the girl
Speaker 1: chimed into our conversation. Suffice it to say that she,
Speaker 1: like most people are, was intellectually inferior, right, but she
Speaker 1: needed to get something off in that conversation, and she
Speaker 1: tried it, and it didn't float, not down this river
Speaker 1: because I'm not the one, nor am I the two
Speaker 1: exactly three five, No, do don't try me. But then
Speaker 1: the next day she came back with a meme, and
Speaker 1: the meme was of Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 2: I believe it to be a quote.
Speaker 1: Taken out of context, but he said something to the
Speaker 1: effect of what should black people do about racism or something,
Speaker 1: and he said that black people should stop talking about
Speaker 1: racism and it'll go away, or something like that. Now
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was taken out of context,
Speaker 1: but it was a very small clip or whatever. And
Speaker 1: she showed this to me to suggest that I was
Speaker 1: somehow wrong, my lived experience was somehow wrong, and the
Speaker 1: lived experience of you know, millions of people who have
Speaker 1: endured these both visible and invisible racist policies, frameworks, you know,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Because she had one person that said something
Speaker 1: that kind of you know, supported what she was saying.
Speaker 1: She thought everything was if I was going to see
Speaker 1: that and it was going to be all good. Right,
Speaker 1: So I get that there are some people that need that.
Speaker 1: And if there's you know, they're just like actors, right,
Speaker 1: you can get an actor that will play the most dehumanizing,
Speaker 1: degrading role if you pay them enough money to do
Speaker 1: it right. I know you've seen this role before where
Speaker 1: you're like, why is that person playing that role? Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Why would this woman play a dead body,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a naked dead body.
Speaker 1: I'm bad boys too. Why would anybody do that? There's
Speaker 1: just no dignity in that. But obviously there's always somebody that.
Speaker 2: Will take that.
Speaker 1: Money is a very powerful motivator, especially in this country
Speaker 1: because we idolize money and things so much, and so
Speaker 1: you know, in my opinion, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: you get the right person with the right personality type
Speaker 1: that lacks the same you know, whatever conviction and mental
Speaker 1: discipline and spiritual fortitude. Wave enough money in front of
Speaker 1: them and make sure they're articulate enough, and they can
Speaker 1: they can tell you exactly what you want to hear.
Speaker 1: Or there's some people that don't even do that. They'll
Speaker 1: they'll say exactly what you what you write, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that there's people like that. Will I ever
Speaker 1: agree with them? I think that, Uh get his name,
Speaker 1: but I just said it. I think his name is
Speaker 1: mill Foster or yeah, Camille Foster.
Speaker 2: He's the one that said that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't self identify as black.
Speaker 2: Yes, have you seen him? That his picture? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know who he is. He will cond
Speaker 1: of black, bro. Yeah no, we'll kind of forever black.
Speaker 1: He's banned to black. No, yeah, I know exactly like
Speaker 1: he was in the tribe.
Speaker 2: I saw him. Yeah, yeah, he's doing who like I was.
Speaker 2: He was in there, bro. Yeah. Man, So.
Speaker 1: For someone to say that, just imagine the mind, Like,
Speaker 1: imagine how far out there you have to be. Imagine
Speaker 1: who he's saying that to. He's not saying that to
Speaker 1: somebody who's actually black, Who's you know, well, every day
Speaker 1: I wake up, I see a black person. You know,
Speaker 1: he was trying to say something to like, well, uh,
Speaker 1: race as a construct is not real in the world,
Speaker 1: you know, And and I get what he's what he said,
Speaker 1: because there's a medical basis for that race is not
Speaker 1: a real thing. It's imaginary. It's something that causes more
Speaker 1: divisiveness in our species.
Speaker 2: Sure than it should in a vacuum. He'd be absolutely
Speaker 2: right in the United States of America, missed.
Speaker 1: Me, bro, That's not how it is, exactly. There is
Speaker 1: definitely the dividing lines.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I recall the the meme of Peter Griffin holding up
Speaker 1: the the color cart, the color chart, and if you're
Speaker 1: if you're a certain shade of brown, you're.
Speaker 2: Good, and you're protesting below a certain shade. If you're
Speaker 2: below a certain shade, you're a rioter. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's just those sorts of weird
Speaker 1: things that these people try to get off. And and
Speaker 1: Candice Owens is another one. Poor baby, I want to say,
Speaker 1: she said something like racism is over because she's never
Speaker 1: been a slave, because she her has never been a slave.
Speaker 1: And so you can imagine, like I know that what
Speaker 1: we're doing is we're taking one part of what these
Speaker 1: people are saying and like making a big deal out
Speaker 1: of it, but only because it would take us thirty
Speaker 1: hours to go through everything to.
Speaker 2: Really discuss intercept. You know.
Speaker 1: There, but you do recognize that these people exist for
Speaker 1: mostly conservative white folks to feel less bad about what
Speaker 1: they know is the truth. If they were comfortable with
Speaker 1: their truth, they wouldn't need these people would not be employable.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: If they were comfortable, they knew without a shadow of
Speaker 1: doubt that their spirit was unperturbed. You know, if they
Speaker 1: knew that, hey, I'm morally centered, I'm right with God,
Speaker 1: I don't do anything I don't you know whatever, they
Speaker 1: really knew that they wouldn't need anyone else to tell
Speaker 1: them that these people have jobs. These Canvas owns, these
Speaker 1: Camille Fosters and so forth have jobs. Is because it
Speaker 1: helps people to distance themselves from the fact that prisons
Speaker 1: are disproportionately crowded by black people, and they know that
Speaker 1: black people aren't inherently bad any more than any other
Speaker 1: human being in the world is. You know, everyone knows
Speaker 1: that all human beings come from black people, right, So
Speaker 1: how is it that all the black people in Africa
Speaker 1: are cool and that black people in America are somehow
Speaker 1: you know, and why is it that you know, there's
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, there's certain things that
Speaker 1: you just cannot escape no matter how much you try
Speaker 1: to manipulate the facts in the data and so forth.
Speaker 1: And these people are just additional examples that allow those
Speaker 1: types of folks to feel a little bit better about
Speaker 1: themselves and to further insulate themselves from the reality of
Speaker 1: other people. These are the types of people that build
Speaker 1: mansions and gated communities with walls, and you know, they
Speaker 1: rarely interact with folks that don't look like them. And
Speaker 1: you know, when they listen to the news, as long
Speaker 1: as there's someone black that sells the same thing that
Speaker 1: they're telling themselves or that Tucker Carlson is telling them,
Speaker 1: then like, okay, so there's a black person that agrees.
Speaker 1: So look, we're all on the same pature. Those guys
Speaker 1: got to get it together. They got to stop, you know,
Speaker 1: having babies out of wedlock. They gotta, you know, the
Speaker 1: dad's got to stay in the home with the kids
Speaker 1: and raise the kids. They got to stop committing crimes
Speaker 1: and going to.
Speaker 2: Jail, like committing crimes and going to jail. This is
Speaker 2: this is a real thing, as if we're filling out
Speaker 2: permission slips to do that.
Speaker 1: Man, this is a real thing for these people. And
Speaker 1: so again the Candice Owens, I want to say that
Speaker 1: Marcellus Wiley, he said the white privilege doesn't exist as.
Speaker 2: Well, and even I mean, it's similar to what you
Speaker 2: said about Camille when you know the with his basis
Speaker 2: for the idea of race not existing, Like it's a
Speaker 2: straw man argument, right, Like what you're saying is based
Speaker 2: in some truth that just absolutely doesn't apply to the
Speaker 2: conversation that you're having. Marcellus tried to take the position
Speaker 2: of look at me, I'm from Compton, and I made
Speaker 2: it to where I am, I'm rich, I'm successful, I'm famous,
Speaker 2: And to suggest that there is white privilege is the
Speaker 2: same as suggesting that there's a black disadvantage. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: exactly what I'm suggesting, but he's trying to say it
Speaker 2: on some like proud black power kind of tip. But
Speaker 2: it's just like I said, another straw man argument that
Speaker 2: just based on the context of the conversation that you're having,
Speaker 2: that position doesn't stand. Like the nuance in the context
Speaker 2: that you're throwing away to make this really really weak
Speaker 2: point on television on Fox Network by the way of
Speaker 2: Fox Sports, but steal what else would that go? He's
Speaker 2: just kind of ridiculous, man.
Speaker 1: So to anyone listening, first off, thank you for tuning
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Speaker 2: I'm host Rams' job. They call me q Ward and
Speaker 2: that's my name.
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Speaker 1: But if you were to go to our Instagram right
Speaker 1: now again at Civic Cipher, and I think it's on
Speaker 1: our Facebook too, there's a video that I put up.
Speaker 1: It's a short video maybe two three minutes, really brief,
Speaker 1: but for anybody that wrestles with this idea of systemic racism,
Speaker 1: there's a brief video up there that really shows exactly
Speaker 1: what that's all about. Because I think that for the
Speaker 1: casual listener of our show or listener of you know,
Speaker 1: news media or whatever, they might hear a term like
Speaker 1: that but not know exactly what it means. Like, so
Speaker 1: there's an actual system of racism that sounds crazy, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that if you take a few minutes
Speaker 1: and look into that, it would help explain why Q
Speaker 1: and I are both so up in arms about these
Speaker 1: other black people claiming that it doesn't exist, and I
Speaker 1: think that, to be fair, we should probably do a
Speaker 1: show on that. So if you're listening again, stay tuned,
Speaker 1: because I think that we're gonna put that show together.
Speaker 2: We're going to make a little deeper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just so that we can put that together
Speaker 1: and make sure that we're educating at the same time
Speaker 1: as we're you know, kind of discussing these things.
Speaker 2: And that's that's fair and necessary. I don't want us
Speaker 2: to just be on air just disagreeing without providing any
Speaker 2: context and education and to kind of help people understand
Speaker 2: a point of view that we've adopted because it's fact,
Speaker 2: not just because we like it right, not just because
Speaker 2: it serves our purpose or the purposes of this show.
Speaker 1: So, and I do want I would I do want
Speaker 1: you to know that if I needed to have that
Speaker 1: conversation in an elevator or in passing, I absolutely could.
Speaker 1: But there is a degree of journalistic integrity that I
Speaker 1: think that we have in this show that that I
Speaker 1: want to maintain. And so given the right you know,
Speaker 1: amount of time to prepare that and put it together,
Speaker 1: you know, when I talk about redlining, I don't want
Speaker 1: to just say redlining. I want to kind of help
Speaker 1: go through what that means. When it happened, you know,
Speaker 1: how it affected folks and so forth, and I know
Speaker 1: in my mind, but I want dates things like that, So.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1: But for now, suffice it to say that we take
Speaker 1: it as as fact that systemic racism exist and that
Speaker 1: there is such a thing as white privilege. I think,
Speaker 1: even on this show, just to kind of meet folks
Speaker 1: where they might be, I've said in the past that
Speaker 1: white privilege is getting to.
Speaker 2: Start at zero.
Speaker 1: You know, there's people who started negative two, negative three,
Speaker 1: negative four.
Speaker 2: There's people that start at plus one hundred. Maybe you know,
Speaker 2: if you're rich there on the other side of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, just being born and you know,
Speaker 1: being a white we'll call it a white male, healthy Christian,
Speaker 1: straight male, we'll call that zero. You weren't born with
Speaker 1: any strikes against you, and so from someone born at
Speaker 1: we'll call it a negative. For a lesbian black woman
Speaker 1: with you know, you know something something else, you know,
Speaker 1: a few strikes against her, she's gonna.
Speaker 2: Have a tougher go at life. It's just facts. Right.
Speaker 1: From her perspective, that looks like privilege. But from a
Speaker 1: lot of white folks perspective, they're like, I was born
Speaker 1: with nothing. I started at zero, same as everyone else,
Speaker 1: and so they're not able to really identify.
Speaker 2: That panatic que but correct.
Speaker 1: Again, I want to make sure that I script the
Speaker 1: show the right way to where it's not just a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds of me kind of paying that brief picture.
Speaker 1: I really want to go into detail.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: With that in mind, I do want to talk about
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. He's in office, he's his pain is working,
Speaker 1: you know, so so he's he's moving, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, every time I see the news and the
Speaker 1: news talks about the President Joe Biden, it's a very
Speaker 1: different emotional response when I see, you know, the president
Speaker 1: issues executive order than from the previous president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, executive order is no longer a trigger, right, It's.
Speaker 1: Not like because you remember during those Trump years, you
Speaker 1: would pick up your phone in the morning it would
Speaker 1: be something happened at three am, and you're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: so Muslim people can't come to the country no more?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? From my Muslim friends? How do
Speaker 2: they feel?
Speaker 1: Let me call and check on them.
Speaker 2: I mean, and the ones that are here need to
Speaker 2: register for some type of sure.
Speaker 1: Mall kind of nonsense, you know, or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: And now the executive orders it seemed to be a
Speaker 1: little bit more Okay, we're gonna we're gonna make sure
Speaker 1: that we foster a culture of otherness and fellowship and
Speaker 1: brotherhood and sisterhood and love in this country.
Speaker 2: Bless his heart because he's riding with that. He's not
Speaker 2: and I know it's not been a long time yet,
Speaker 2: but just the fact that he's not wavering on his
Speaker 2: approach of unity. And I say this every time I
Speaker 2: get a chance to thank you for Ramses, for helping
Speaker 2: me to get some type of grace. Right, you cannot
Speaker 2: defeat hate with hate. No matter how hard you try,
Speaker 2: it'll never be successful. Now, love does not always beat hate,
Speaker 2: not always, but it has a higher winning percentage than hate,
Speaker 2: sure by far. So. Shout out to our president for
Speaker 2: maintaining his position on trying to work with and unite
Speaker 2: with people who have said out loud that they would
Speaker 2: rather our demise. He wants to unite the country. That's
Speaker 2: his platform. Form Kudos to him.
Speaker 1: And you know that's to be fair that's a tough
Speaker 1: thing to try to do. There's so many different people
Speaker 1: and millions, of course, but so many different types of people,
Speaker 1: even if we're just like breaking them down, and those
Speaker 1: different types of people have you know, different values and
Speaker 1: different beliefs and different backgrounds, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: so interesting that we have a two party system in
Speaker 1: this country and.
Speaker 2: We have you know.
Speaker 1: It literally there's like millions of people, you know, and
Speaker 1: you either got to fall into this political persuasion or
Speaker 1: that one. And this political persuasion encompasses all of these things,
Speaker 1: and that one encompasses all of these things. And so
Speaker 1: you might have a little from here and a lot
Speaker 1: from there. So you're abandoning the things that you care
Speaker 1: about that this other party, you know, but you got to,
Speaker 1: you know, make that choice. Indeed, to his credit, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's at least speaking to it, and that matters,
Speaker 1: i think a lot more than.
Speaker 2: What we what we're used.
Speaker 1: To now because the previous resident was such a bully,
Speaker 1: such a well I'm gonna do it my way. He
Speaker 1: fired everybody he worked with or they quit.
Speaker 2: You know, he just anybody that disagree with him, right exactly.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: But what I want to do is I want to
Speaker 1: talk about there's this other type of black person. Right.
Speaker 1: This person is on Facebook, this person is on you know,
Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever. It's the it's the one off sort
Speaker 1: of guy or girl, you know what I mean. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm never taking that vaccine one off. But you know,
Speaker 1: like most people will say this thing. And then there's
Speaker 1: a person you know, of course is not a one off,
Speaker 1: but there's we'll call it a handful.
Speaker 2: That'll say this other thing.
Speaker 1: Right, Perhaps because it's popular, perhaps it's because they're given to,
Speaker 1: you know, fear things like this. But I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about vaccines per se. That We've done that show and
Speaker 1: we probably gonna have to do another one on it.
Speaker 1: But what I'm talking about is the person that is
Speaker 1: aware that we have a two party system, at least
Speaker 1: in the past administration was aware that we had pretty
Speaker 1: much a vote for Donald Trump or a vote for
Speaker 1: Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: Those are the only two realistic outcomes that we were
Speaker 1: going to have from that election. There's never been any
Speaker 1: it's never been any different. You know, these are intelligent thinking,
Speaker 1: they would call themselves free thinking.
Speaker 2: And it would be very, very difficult to ever change
Speaker 2: that system, right, Like that's what we got. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: just what it is. Right.
Speaker 1: And there are these people who say, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: voting for Joe Biden because you know, once upon a
Speaker 1: time in nineteen seventy two he did this one thing.
Speaker 1: Or you know, Joe Biden is not going to do
Speaker 1: anything for black people any better than Trump has, So
Speaker 1: why would I even bother you know, or whatever it
Speaker 1: is that they need to get off, right, So this
Speaker 1: not one off, but this type of person that exists,
Speaker 1: you know, in these groups and you know, various spaces
Speaker 1: on the internet. You know, they are just like these
Speaker 1: sort of like downers. You know, they never have it.
Speaker 1: Nothing is good enough for them. The whole world is terrible.
Speaker 1: The world sucks. Even good news is terrible, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Oh, we won the election, Well wait
Speaker 1: until he sees what you know. Wait, he's never gonna
Speaker 1: do anything for us.
Speaker 2: Ironically, same person that you brought up before, two different issues,
Speaker 2: but it's the same. It's the same guy. The same
Speaker 2: guy who's never taken the vaccine is the same guy
Speaker 2: that's like gogawehka. That's why I don't don't celebrate. Wait,
Speaker 2: till wait till tomorrow because in that one day he
Speaker 2: gonna listen.
Speaker 1: Man, The thing is, uh, Kamala Harris got a bunch
Speaker 1: of whatever from Fox and the right wing media because
Speaker 1: she wasn't this, and she wasn't that when we see
Speaker 1: black people do it. Oh, she was, you know, she was.
Speaker 1: She was the top cop and you know, like we
Speaker 1: still gonna need police.
Speaker 2: They bring up her record as the DA and that's
Speaker 2: the I think she was attorney general. Sure her job
Speaker 2: was to enforce the law. They bring up that she
Speaker 2: did a good job of enforcing the laws. They strike
Speaker 2: against her.
Speaker 1: And and to be fair, because I want to be
Speaker 1: fair here. I understand that the laws are not always
Speaker 1: like you know, when when punishments are handed out or
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 2: Know, you know, police enforce the laws.
Speaker 1: The laws are enforced differently from the police on the streets,
Speaker 1: and the sentencing is done differently from the judges in
Speaker 1: the courtrooms. But my understanding, she's never actually been a
Speaker 1: beat cop and she's never actually been a judge. Correct,
Speaker 1: So when a criminal comes her away, she treats the
Speaker 1: criminal like a criminal again and not excusing anything, but
Speaker 1: you know, and it's regnized.
Speaker 2: It's not an excuse. It's the necessary context and nuance
Speaker 2: that needs to be interjected into these conversations.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, so she will take a criminal of
Speaker 1: any color. You know, the criminal is a criminal. We
Speaker 1: all can agree that of that and then do whatever
Speaker 1: she does accordingly. Now, if she has a disproportion in
Speaker 1: amount that looks like this is not I don't believe
Speaker 1: it's because she's looking for those people. That's you know,
Speaker 1: a function of policing. And you know the way policing
Speaker 1: is done in certain neighborhood are overly policed, particularly black
Speaker 1: and brown neighborhoods. And then in terms of convictions, obviously
Speaker 1: that's the way that sentencing is in the whole criminal
Speaker 1: justice system. And so she was a part of the machine.
Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is that for all these
Speaker 1: people to have this such a strong opinion about her,
Speaker 1: and you know, she's not black enough, and they just
Speaker 1: it's just one of these things where it's never good enough.
Speaker 2: These are the same.
Speaker 1: People that had problems with Obama. These the same people
Speaker 1: that are going to have a problem with whatever else
Speaker 1: good happens. Anytime a bunch of black people are celebrating something,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, well, that's what black people do.
Speaker 2: Y'all all like ribs. That's why y'all got high blood pressure.
Speaker 2: This's that guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Nothing's good enough, right, and God bless them.
Speaker 2: Sadly that group is growing though it's discouraging men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, and God bless them. I recognize that,
Speaker 1: you know. That's it would be hard for me to
Speaker 1: wake up every day in the world just be that terrible.
Speaker 2: I have joy in my life. I'm happy. I have opportunity.
Speaker 2: Either it's growth.
Speaker 1: I could see progress, like as we started the show
Speaker 1: talking about like in my lifetime what I've seen, and
Speaker 1: no matter what, these people aren't perfect people. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'll ever see a perfect person in my life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I get to heaven maybe.
Speaker 2: And that's also not the expectation, right, and not expect
Speaker 2: just do effect the best you can. That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, you know, but somehow, you know, these
Speaker 1: people get picked on because these certain black people that
Speaker 1: nothing is ever good enough, you know, they pick on them.
Speaker 1: So it's to this group of people that I want
Speaker 1: to talk because we've all heard or seen these folks
Speaker 1: and one of the biggest things that comes up, at
Speaker 1: least in my timeline of the things I've seen this well,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden ain't gonna do nothing for black people. What
Speaker 1: has Joe Biden done for black people, you know in
Speaker 1: his executive orders? So what I want to do is
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a what is an executive order?
Speaker 1: And b I want to kind of go through some
Speaker 1: of the executive orders that he signed and really take
Speaker 1: this and break it down in such a way that
Speaker 1: where we can understand that what we're seeing is good
Speaker 1: and the fact that we haven't seen more is not
Speaker 1: necessarily bad. Sometimes you have to be strategic Sometimes things,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a long game, you know of four
Speaker 1: hundred years of racism doesn't go away, and the implications
Speaker 1: and the effects of it in the way the country
Speaker 1: was built and so for that doesn't go away easily,
Speaker 1: especially when a lot of the people who still reap
Speaker 1: the benefits of that enslavement, whether they can see it
Speaker 1: or not, the benefits.
Speaker 2: Are still there.
Speaker 1: Their children will reap those benefits, whether they see it
Speaker 1: or not. To dismantle that in its entire already takes
Speaker 1: more than.
Speaker 2: Just a few days in office. And some executive orders.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: Again I want to talk about what an executive order is.
Speaker 1: So an executive order is not a law. It is
Speaker 1: a directive from the president to people who carry out
Speaker 1: jobs in the government. And so there's a lot of
Speaker 1: power in that, you know, in an executive order. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't it's not like Congress and the Senate met
Speaker 1: approved a bill.
Speaker 2: It's not a constitutional amendment.
Speaker 1: Right, it's not. It's not one of those things. And
Speaker 1: the truth is what a lot of black people want.
Speaker 1: A lot of black people want reparations. A lot of
Speaker 1: black people want, you know, federal mandate. It's you know,
Speaker 1: and guidelines and things like that for policing. A lot
Speaker 1: of black people want, you know, into mass incarceration and
Speaker 1: into the war on drugs, and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of things like that. Those type of movements take.
Speaker 2: Legislation right a time.
Speaker 1: You need Congress, you need bipartisan support exactly.
Speaker 2: And for for.
Speaker 1: All the black people that are so critical of the
Speaker 1: system that has failed them, and rightfully so, you know,
Speaker 1: you have a right to be critical. It's the it's
Speaker 1: the only system there is. It's not that you can
Speaker 1: either withdraw from it and just take it on the
Speaker 1: chin for the rest of your life. Or you can
Speaker 1: engage and get some other people who are like you
Speaker 1: to engage and elect you know, senators and campaign for
Speaker 1: people and get people to you know, to that share
Speaker 1: your vision in office, or run yourself.
Speaker 2: You can, even as wide minded as it and and
Speaker 2: dream minded as it may sound, can sign up and
Speaker 2: run for office yourself. Say it, let them know. And
Speaker 2: you know it may seem like a daunting task and
Speaker 2: beyond your capabilities, but it's not every single person that
Speaker 2: you see running and getting elected for office every year.
Speaker 2: They're not superheroes, regular folks. There are regular people like
Speaker 2: you that wanted to be a part of the system
Speaker 2: that governed them instead of just a non active participant.
Speaker 2: Now let me add this. You might have to if
Speaker 2: you're one of those people.
Speaker 1: You might have to understand that your platform is going
Speaker 1: to require that you have a little bit of faith
Speaker 1: in your fellow man. You can't be scared of vaccines
Speaker 1: and you know all that paranoid stuff. Well, I guess
Speaker 1: you can do that and still.
Speaker 2: Run for office.
Speaker 1: You can be, but in order to like really get
Speaker 1: to the levels in government that are really necessary to help,
Speaker 1: you know, get these policies and these things that you
Speaker 1: might want to see across the finish line. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to recognize that there's going to need to
Speaker 1: be some compromise in terms of your beliefs. You know,
Speaker 1: I might think they're bizarre. You might think they're entirely founded.
Speaker 1: You know, vaccines give people autism, and you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the government is bugging everyone and whatever whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You know, you remember polio. Have you ever heard of polio?
Speaker 1: I've heard of it because I got a polio shot
Speaker 1: in the eighties.
Speaker 2: You remember measles?
Speaker 1: I don't remember having it, but I got a measles shot.
Speaker 2: I remember chicken pox.
Speaker 1: I got chicken pox. I'm really from the eighties. But
Speaker 1: your babies didn't they because they came out of a
Speaker 1: vaccine for it, because they came out with a vac
Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, like, I know it's in vogue to pretend science
Speaker 2: isn't real now, but there's a reason people don't die
Speaker 2: of polio anymore, measles, chicken pox, these things used to
Speaker 2: kill people. You would die if you got sick. They
Speaker 2: developed vaccines for them. Not only do we not die
Speaker 2: from them any more, we don't even get them anymore
Speaker 2: because they're gone, Okay, I'm just you know, Google is free.
Speaker 1: But see, that's the simplest argument. But you know, these
Speaker 1: type of people, they don't want the simplest argument.
Speaker 2: And I owe everybody in an apology that can hear me
Speaker 2: right now, because that was the worst stance to take. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't like to make people feel unintelligent by the
Speaker 2: stances that they take, So that was the wrong way
Speaker 2: to frame that and presented. But I get frustrated when
Speaker 2: there seems to be this contingent of contrarians now that
Speaker 2: want to debunk every myth, every you know, the conspiracy
Speaker 2: theorists used to have their own like space over here somewhere,
Speaker 2: and now they're out front. And there's so much misinformation,
Speaker 2: so much disinformation, and so little fact checking and actual
Speaker 2: academic research, that we can write something that's completely unfounded,
Speaker 2: baseless and untrue, publish it, put it out, and if
Speaker 2: we articulated well enough it sounds legit. One person will
Speaker 2: see it. They'll feel away from reading it, not researching
Speaker 2: to make sure it made them feel away. So now
Speaker 2: that's what they think now, and that's what they're going
Speaker 2: to tell all their friends passionately. I don't even mean
Speaker 2: to make it left because I know he.
Speaker 1: Was going to no, no, no, no, I like that,
Speaker 1: but I'm not demand we need to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh, you know, if we want to get
Speaker 1: into politics. So one example I want to want to
Speaker 1: share is Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that when he lost the majority seat in the Senate
Speaker 1: there was Now there are now more Democrats in the
Speaker 1: Senate than there are Republicans. Democrats, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: tend to be voted in the office, and black people's
Speaker 1: votes largely tend to go to Democrats democratic candidates. So
Speaker 1: the expectation is that there's going to be more progressive
Speaker 1: policies enacted for black folks because now there's a democratic
Speaker 1: majority in the Senate and in Congress, and since the
Speaker 1: President is a Democrat as well. Now we have all
Speaker 1: three branches of government with the Supreme Court is heavily
Speaker 1: republican now.
Speaker 2: But but.
Speaker 1: You know, in terms of getting something into law, the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court can only say if the law is unconstitutional,
Speaker 1: you know, so provided you know, if the government with
Speaker 1: all you know, the Senate the House and then the
Speaker 1: president president they can get something enacted. You know, let's say,
Speaker 1: forgive student loan debt or whatever. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: like that's illegal things. So the Supreme Court has no
Speaker 1: saying that sort of thing. Anyway. Mitch McConnell is has
Speaker 1: maneuvered in such a way over the past you know,
Speaker 1: four years, to where despite there being more Democrats in
Speaker 1: the House of Representatives in Congress specifically, that he hasn't
Speaker 1: even allowed for there to be a vote on these
Speaker 1: democratic you know, he controls it, so he just won't
Speaker 1: even let people vote on it, even though it might
Speaker 1: not pass, might not get enough votes, because he had
Speaker 1: the Senate majority, wouldn't even let it go to the floor.
Speaker 1: Right before relinquishing control of the Senate, because somehow that's
Speaker 1: a thing, you know, they had to like confirm the
Speaker 1: new people that were voted into office. Some came from Arizona,
Speaker 1: which is where we're from. So again, really proud of
Speaker 1: Arizona for that, before even confirming them, so that the
Speaker 1: actual majority could start you know, governing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. He held it.
Speaker 1: Hostage for like a week, two weeks however long. It
Speaker 1: was just so that he could keep the filibuster. Filibusters
Speaker 1: basically you get out there and you prevent people from voting.
Speaker 2: You know, it's basically what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a maneuver that keeps something.
Speaker 2: It's the reason that President Obama wasn't the black version
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, right. A lot of black people's problems
Speaker 2: with rockers that they felt he was too too much
Speaker 2: of his centrist He tried to appeal to both sides
Speaker 2: of the aisle too much, and he did not have
Speaker 2: a flagrantly black agenda like they wanted the black version
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. They wanted someone to just go on
Speaker 2: to office, push for everything that we've been denied for
Speaker 2: all of this time, and do it now like he
Speaker 2: was supposed to go in there and not care about
Speaker 2: the rule of law, proper legislation, actually running things like
Speaker 2: they're supposed to go. But like this last president, he
Speaker 2: didn't care. So that's how I think a lot of
Speaker 2: not I think I watched a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: black people people wonder how Trump got more Black votes
Speaker 2: the second time, being so disenfranchised and oppressed for so long.
Speaker 2: When Obama won, there is a section of our culture
Speaker 2: that really wanted him to be like black Superman. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like if Malcolm X were president, how would he have
Speaker 2: done it? You know, a strictly for US Black agenda,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of things that he wanted
Speaker 2: to do. But just like when Trump was in office,
Speaker 2: they had the majority. Same when Obama was in office,
Speaker 2: there were a lot of things that were filibuster.
Speaker 1: Just for like kicks, just because they didn't want Obama
Speaker 1: could have been a lot more effective. Everybody could be
Speaker 1: a lot more effective president if they had the support.
Speaker 1: The reason why Trump got everything done is because he
Speaker 1: had a Republican Senate and then for the first couple
Speaker 1: of years he had a Republican Congress as well.
Speaker 2: And he also didn't care that part like he Wow.
Speaker 1: So for everybody that always has something negative to say,
Speaker 1: if you put that energy into getting a two thirds
Speaker 1: majority in Senate, because some things can pass with a
Speaker 1: simple majority, which is what the Democrats have now, other things,
Speaker 1: more progressive things will take a two thirds majority. And
Speaker 1: you know that means that you have to convince I
Speaker 1: don't know thirteen Republicans, and again we all tend to
Speaker 1: vote along party lines. You have to convince thirteen Republicans
Speaker 1: to break with you know, their party and vote something in.
Speaker 2: The law, not just their party but their constituents.
Speaker 1: Sure that part. And so for everyone in these little
Speaker 1: pockets of their own mind thinking that the world is
Speaker 1: never going to be good enough and anything that is
Speaker 1: celebrated is just they just rain on every parade. You know,
Speaker 1: if they took that energy and put it into like
Speaker 1: actually getting some more democratic candidates in.
Speaker 2: Office, or if your belief, if you really believe.
Speaker 1: That, you know, black people need this and whatever whatever
Speaker 1: it is that you believe, if you run for office
Speaker 1: and engage in the political system as opposed to withdraw
Speaker 1: from it, then at least you have a leg to
Speaker 1: stand on with me, you know, because again, we only
Speaker 1: have the system for you to say, look, man, well
Speaker 1: what has Joe Biden done for y'all? So y'all voted
Speaker 1: him in the office, and he forgot all about y'all.
Speaker 1: He's signing executive orders about COVID. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think COVID comes before a lot of stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: people are dying from that, you know, and disproportionately Black
Speaker 1: people are dying from that. So you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you're looking for it, it's there, you know. And
Speaker 1: if you're looking for what it is that you think is,
Speaker 1: you know, you're, you know, you being further disenfranchised. That's
Speaker 1: there as well. You know you're you're gonna find what
Speaker 1: you're looking for. Some of the other things that I
Speaker 1: want to talk about is actually i'll read down this list.
Speaker 1: So some of the executive orders that Joe Biden's enacted.
Speaker 1: The mask wearing was a big one. He wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that the vaccines were rolled out. I'm going
Speaker 1: through these kind of quick just because it's a lot
Speaker 1: of words here. What else he's uh paused federal student
Speaker 1: loan payments. Hopefully, you know, if we can get that
Speaker 1: all the way together, he can relieve student loan debt.
Speaker 1: I got a master's degree, so I got a little debt.
Speaker 1: I would love for that to disappear myself. Some stuff
Speaker 1: about medicaid, protecting women's health and so forth. Of course,
Speaker 1: re entered the Paris Climate Agreement. You know, we we
Speaker 1: all live in the planet together. In executive order to
Speaker 1: get that back on track makes sense. You know, without
Speaker 1: a planet, there's no black people either, Okay, y'all, so
Speaker 1: let the man do his job. What else, there's an
Speaker 1: executive order on the revision of civil immigration enforcement policies
Speaker 1: and priorities. That one's for our Brown brothers and sisters,
Speaker 1: our Mexican brothers and sisters specifically. You know, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of nonsense taking place at the border for
Speaker 1: a long time with ice and with you know, kids
Speaker 1: and cages and all the things that you know about.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it on the show, We've you know,
Speaker 1: seen it on the news.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know that that is something that he was able
Speaker 1: to get that off real quick, just by signing some
Speaker 1: paper and having it put together. It's a little easier
Speaker 1: for that to happen. We don't have to feel like
Speaker 1: we're not a priority because that was done Black people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Or these specific black people.
Speaker 1: Most black people are just happy that we got out
Speaker 1: of that last phase of our life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So most of us are just kind of chilling. We're
Speaker 1: just you know, the world not being as tense as
Speaker 1: it once was.
Speaker 2: But for those.
Speaker 1: Outliers, you know, you know, we gotta, you know, let
Speaker 1: the man do what he's doing. There's an executive order
Speaker 1: for trans folks being able to serve in the military,
Speaker 1: which you know feel how you feel I support that.
Speaker 1: I think that's dope necessary. You know, everybody should have
Speaker 1: a right to feel, you know, welcome and have some
Speaker 1: dignity and you know, have some security in their life.
Speaker 2: Especially in a country where not only our military but
Speaker 2: our police forces are voluntary. You have to you have
Speaker 2: to volunteer to serve in that matter, it's not we
Speaker 2: don't draft people. To deny people that want to serve
Speaker 2: the country based on something that's completely none of your
Speaker 2: business is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then that brings me to some of the things
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden has done that folks might actually like.
Speaker 1: These these outlier folks. I need to come up with
Speaker 1: a name for this type of person. But one of
Speaker 1: them is an Executive Order on Advancing Racial Equity and
Speaker 1: Support for Underserved Communities through the Federal Government, which includes
Speaker 1: various directives to promote allocating federal resources and government benefits.
Speaker 1: The Executive Order on Reforming our Incarceration System to eliminate
Speaker 1: the use of privately operated criminal detention facilities, you know,
Speaker 1: private prisons, for profit prisons. That has an effect on
Speaker 1: the way policing is done, That has an effect on
Speaker 1: how many people are incarcerated and what type of people
Speaker 1: are incarces.
Speaker 2: Places have quotas to meet. There you go, you real life.
Speaker 2: We're not making this up.
Speaker 1: We need at least eighty percent inmate.
Speaker 2: People in these beds so our contracts can be served,
Speaker 2: so we can get paid.
Speaker 1: That is the opposite approach that people should have when
Speaker 1: dealing with crime. We need to minimize crime, but a
Speaker 1: for profit prison means we need to maximize occupancy in
Speaker 1: the prison, in the jails, so that means longer sentences,
Speaker 1: harsher policing, and communities that don't need it, you know,
Speaker 1: because not every black community needs the amount of policing
Speaker 1: that's there. But when you put more police in Okay
Speaker 1: north south, east west, right, if you put all the
Speaker 1: police officers on the west side, all the crime, the
Speaker 1: crime is going to be found on the west side.
Speaker 1: You know, if you share the police equally on all
Speaker 1: sides of the city, then you know it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more evenly distributed.
Speaker 1: But you know, just a simple concept there, but hopefully
Speaker 1: it made sense. And another one is a Memorandum on
Speaker 1: Condemning and combating racism, xenophobia and intolerance against Asian Americans
Speaker 1: and Pacific Islanders. In the United States, which I think
Speaker 1: is very important. So my brother Raka for those of
Speaker 1: you that might know me, I have an older brother's
Speaker 1: name is Roca. He's in a group called Dilated People's
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Group.
Speaker 2: Before we started this show.
Speaker 1: Rocasette with me and he's like, hey, man, make sure
Speaker 1: that when you do this show that you speak to
Speaker 1: other people who have supported black people over the years,
Speaker 1: because they don't always get to the same voice that
Speaker 1: black people get.
Speaker 2: Black people are visible and.
Speaker 1: Powerful in this country, right, so I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that I said that here. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's a win for black people too, because we've been
Speaker 1: supported by Asian people with the Panthers and all the
Speaker 1: way up to Black Lives Matter in this past summer,
Speaker 1: so that's important as well. And the Executive Order on
Speaker 1: Ethics commitments by Executive Branch personnel, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think that those things all together are some things that
Speaker 1: he can do in the matter of days that he's
Speaker 1: actually been in office, in addition to all the other
Speaker 1: things that he's done. But those are some things that
Speaker 1: at least have accommodated what black folks are at least.
Speaker 2: Going to want to see during this administration, and as
Speaker 2: franchise and oppressed as we've lied to a manipulated and
Speaker 2: taken advantage of by our government, as we felt has
Speaker 2: been true. Do some research. Ramses will remind you every
Speaker 2: week that Google is free. Our federal and state governments
Speaker 2: employ black people at a much higher percentage than most
Speaker 2: of corporate America, and that might surprise you. They're the
Speaker 2: only ones without forced incentive that go out of their
Speaker 2: way to employ us at a higher rate. So just
Speaker 2: another tidbit to add to what we were already talking.
Speaker 1: About, and that's going to do it for us. So
Speaker 1: once again, I'm Ramsey's Jah.
Speaker 2: And my name is Quentin, but my friends called me
Speaker 2: q Ward.
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Speaker 1: y'all peace,