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Speaker 1: I need to know how the Spartans are doing in baseball.

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Speaker 1: Your son trades up at San Jose State. What kind

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Speaker 1: hearing that, and I have seen people do that. I

427
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Speaker 1: think it's great that the coach is doing that, because

428
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: you do have to show young people how to handle

429
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: those situations. And the communication part, direct communication, very clear communication,

430
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 1: being able to have what maybe uncomfortable confrontations, but being

431
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: able to move beyond that and a lot of times

432
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 1: and it's hard because we live in a world where

433
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: everything is like you know, we're texting, we're not really

434
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 1: used to verbalizing what it is that we're feeling. But

435
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: if you're able to do that, and if you're able

436
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: to be clear, direct and honest with your dialogue and

437
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: being able to get past it, I think everyone wants that.

438
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: I think even you and I and I and our

439
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: job like, if someone was to critique us about our

440
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: performance or whatever, if you can get me clear, direct

441
00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: and honest feedback, I can do it now my initiary action,

442
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Bristol, it might be a little uncomfortable if

443
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: if I might have to step away and then come back,

444
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: but I think we all want that. But what I

445
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: don't want is the passive aggressive, the stuff that they

446
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: never tell you, but then later in a review it's like, oh,

447
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 1: you don't do this, and you're like, well, you never

448
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: told me that. Like even if I don't like it,

449
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: give me the feedback and then we can do it.

450
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: But it's teaching people and encouraging that environment like no,

451
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: we give we give open and honest feedback. And to

452
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: take it back to the Patriots, to take it back

453
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: to the heat is being able to coach the stars

454
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: like that because a lot of times we've seen it

455
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: where the star doesn't get barked at, it's the backup.

456
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: It's the brightness squad player that they're like, oh my god,

457
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do well wait a minute, I just saw

458
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: the starter not do that. The starter doesn't have that stuff. No,

459
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: And so when your best players take to the coaching,

460
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: it says the tone for everybody else, and so that

461
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: has to be established within the organization that hey, we

462
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: coach everybody hard, we're fair, we do this. But you

463
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: come here, you're going to get coached and you're going

464
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: to be hell to the standard. You don't live to

465
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: the standard, we're gonna call you every time that you don't. Now,

466
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting it's an interesting culture to

467
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: study there, and obviously what they've done stood the test

468
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: of time. I communicate with a couple of baseball gems

469
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: as well, and then I'm sending this stuff out to

470
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of different people. And one of the baseball

471
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: gems like pat Riley. I admire pat Riley as much

472
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: as anybody in sports. Like all these different teams and

473
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: organizations and sports, they'll study each other and the heat

474
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: are as well respected as anybody. Yeah, it's funny. I

475
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: think everyone studies each other. There's an open communication. I

476
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: think this one makes pro sports were all sports so great?

477
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: Is that the open dialogue and how people are willing

478
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: to share. You A think that everyone would be very

479
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: uh secretive and and and very guarded about what is

480
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: the secret sauce, But everyone kind of opens up and

481
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: shares and then DJ when you go get down to it,

482
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the the ingredients are the same common

483
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: denominators that we talked about. People may do it in

484
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: a little different way, but a lot of it is

485
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: always the same. Um. All right, let's get to these

486
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: fifth year options. I want to see if if you

487
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: come up with anything, UM, theme wise, UM, of what

488
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: we can learn from that. I've got a couple of

489
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: thoughts on it. Let's take a quick break and we'll

490
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: come back with these fifth year options. All right, buck,

491
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: So here we go fifth year options that were declined.

492
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Speaker 1: So this is from the twenty nineteen draft class. So

493
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: I went back kind of looked up my notes on

494
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: those guys as well as kind of looking at the

495
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: situations they were in to see what we can learn. UM.

496
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: Let's start first of all here with Daniel Jones. His uh,

497
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: his option was not picked up. I wrote down on here.

498
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: I just you know, we can talk about him and

499
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: whatever issues he may have had. Obviously the turnovers have

500
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: been big, but in terms of what was around him,

501
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: of the pas, the playmakers, the protection, the play caller,

502
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Uh, I don't I don't know

503
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: that he was putting in a good spot there. No,

504
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he was putting a good spot. And

505
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, like and look new regime

506
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: Josha and Brian day Ball, they do need to see

507
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: before they make that commitment because the big change has

508
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: been when they tweaked the c B A, it became

509
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: a fully guaranteed option, and so now that's a different

510
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: decision than what it was when he was just guaranteed

511
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: for injury. Now you're you're locked in when you take

512
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: the option. And so for for Daniel Jones, I think

513
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: there a couple of things that kind of cloudsy evaluation. One, unfortunately,

514
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: whatever the narrative was when he was drafted, that always

515
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: hangs over Daniel jones Is performance in play because so

516
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: many on the outside we're surprised that he was taking

517
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: as high as he was, Like it's kind of like

518
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: an uphill battle for him to change perception to the

519
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: team that he went to was not very good, didn't

520
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: have many pieces around him. Um, offensive line has been shaky,

521
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: the perimeter players have been up and out, and I

522
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: still worry about that a little bit. Um, and then

523
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: he had all the turnovers, but I think he's showing flashes.

524
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: He's athletic enough to do some really outstanding things. He

525
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: certainly can make the passes. He just has to take

526
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: care of the ball. He takes better care of the football.

527
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: I think he would be a guy that can be

528
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: picked up. I'm curious to see what he is able

529
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: to play like under creative offensive coordinated who was dealt

530
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: with a guy who asked athletic traits that are similar

531
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones. Yeah. No, this will be a big

532
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: year for him. I don't know that there's any real

533
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: lesson that we can take on that one. I think

534
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: I think you have to look. I think the lesson

535
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: is if you're going to take a quarterback like that

536
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: in the top ten, you got to make sure that

537
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: you do everything in your power to fully support him,

538
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: whatever that is. We talked about play year one, evaluate,

539
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: then fact figure out to give him what he needs

540
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: in you two and so. I think the same thing

541
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones needed debt. So this year he'll get some

542
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: of them. We'll see a performs all right. I actually

543
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: now you kind of say that I'm looking I'm looking

544
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: back here. So they took him in twenty nineteen, so

545
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: in They took Andrew Thomas in the first round, right

546
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: tried to try to help that offensive line um. And

547
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: then they took Darius Tony with their first pick, but

548
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: then came back with Zizo Hilari and then Aaron Robinson corner.

549
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: They won a lot of a lot of defense there

550
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: after that first pick. And I think kind of to

551
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: your to your point, which is when you have a

552
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: young quarterback, if you have to have a lopsided team

553
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: early in their career where you kind of build up

554
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: the offense um, I think I'm okay with that, but

555
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: don't but don't let don't let you get to this

556
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: point in time. You gotta make a decision on his

557
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: fifth year option and you haven't put enough pieces around

558
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: him to be able to make that decision. You know,

559
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: if your defense sufferers, it suffers, but you gotta lean.

560
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: You gotta be a little lopsited to help him out

561
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: on that side early in their career. Yeah, And I

562
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 1: think with the young quarterback, the younger quarterback, I think

563
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: the more experience you need a round to on the verimeter.

564
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: You need you guys that are gonna be consistent and reliable.

565
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: That the stability I think helps young quarterbacks developed. I

566
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's hard to pay young quarterbacks with young

567
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: playmakers on the outside because everyone is learning. I would

568
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: like to have an expert out there to kind of

569
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: help him, at least one veteran player that that's a

570
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: high end player that can help him, that can be

571
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: a reliable number one while he's figuring out how to

572
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: play the game. Yeah, I can't say that they have

573
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: done Daniel Jones any favors early in his career. Alright,

574
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: running backs, Josh Jacobs, his his option which was eight million,

575
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: was declined. I know some of that's just the product

576
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: of the running back position. Um, but if I was

577
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: gonna say, okay, what's the one lesson. I think he's

578
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: good in the passing game. I don't think he's dominant,

579
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, in the passing game. I think maybe that

580
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: factored into it a little bit. I also think, for

581
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: as he's a workhorse back, and I loved him coming

582
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: into that draft. Um, but you know, this is not

583
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: not a home run hitter. So if you get a

584
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: back that's not necessarily the most dynamic makes a home

585
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: run hitter, and then maybe it's not a big time

586
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: weapon in the past game he's functional, but not like

587
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: a big time weapon. I guess that would be maybe

588
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: the lesson you take their yeah stuff. And it's another example,

589
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: and it's hard because I've had to come to grips

590
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: with this, like running backs in the first round can

591
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: be really really tricky and difficult. Um unless they are

592
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: what we call like five star high end what I'm saying,

593
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: worthy of being top ten players. If they're not that,

594
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: it becomes harder to take them in the first round

595
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: because maybe they don't have what we call transcendent talent.

596
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: And so with Josh Jacob is very good players, best

597
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: maybe running back in that class, but you still don't know,

598
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: like don't want to sign another four or five years

599
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: of this good player, maybe not great player. And so

600
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: that's why you decline that on the running back. And

601
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: just look at kind of what you can get running

602
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: backs for, not only in the draft, but you look

603
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: at what you can get the guys in the free

604
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: agent market. You're sitting there going eight million dollars. I

605
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: could chopped that eight million bucks up into three running

606
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: backs really and then looking and I told you, like

607
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: the philosophy was drafting one high, but you draft him

608
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: with the intention of never resigning him, you know, DJ

609
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: because even if he plays at a high level where

610
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: he's a two time or three time Russian champ, you

611
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: then at have the franchise tag at your disposal. You

612
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: have a few different vehicles to be able to do

613
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: it without ever really having to commit long term to

614
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: a running back with significant money. And it's been much

615
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: easier to find running backs because the position has become

616
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: really a part time position as opposed to a workhorse position.

617
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the white outs. There's only one.

618
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: The Patriots decline their option on Nikkill Harriot twelve point

619
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: four million. What do you what do you take away

620
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: from that one? Um? I think this is more about

621
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: the player than the position. Yeah, you know, for sure,

622
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, if we're unfortunately for them, you know,

623
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: like the Patriots have a tough time identifying and drafting

624
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: high end receivers, and he's another one. Look like some

625
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: of the things that he did at Aeras the state

626
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: he was very school. He was terrific in terms of

627
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: his dominance impacts. Well, I'm worried about us being I

628
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: worried about him being a little heavy footed when I

629
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: watched him coming out not sudden at all, like, no such, yeah,

630
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: and so it just hasn't It just hasn't worked out,

631
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think this is one where

632
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: they both kind of understand he hasn't been on the

633
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: field enough, he hasn't made enough plays. And when you're

634
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: a first round pick, man first round pick is exposed

635
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: expected to be a foundational piece to that offense, and

636
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't immersed as that. I think also it's a

637
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: good lesson to take about fit. So if you look

638
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: at the Patriots and look at where all their productions

639
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: come over the years, think about the type of receivers

640
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: with the Edelman's, the Welkers, those dudes and quick change

641
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: your direction slot guys, and you think about, okay, who

642
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: that Randy Moss and one really had success. He's a

643
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: one on one. He's a unicorn, but he had obviously

644
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: had juice and burst and could go, you know, do

645
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: some things down the field to kill. Harry is kind

646
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: of a X, you know, old school X. Just a boxy, strong,

647
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: big physical guy who's not real sudden, not gonna be

648
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: a dynamic route runner, and then doesn't have that top

649
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: speed to go take top off the defense. So you

650
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: kind of look back and say, whoever they had like

651
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: that that's been successful. They haven't, you know, like you

652
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: you're right, guess when you bring that up. They're best

653
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: players at the position, the most effective players. They all

654
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: kind of come they all come out the same brown, right,

655
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: they all they all are the Amadolas, the Edelman's, de

656
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Troy Browns, the West Welkers. Like they're really good at

657
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: identifying the slot receivers. Um Hawkins, Andrew Hawkins told me,

658
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: like when you want to be he didn't have him

659
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: run Afford, he had him run short shuttle on three

660
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: coms because it's change direction whatever. They know exactly what

661
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: they want there. They know how to get those kinds

662
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: of guys open, So they just just shop at that store.

663
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Just only we're going right here, We're only gonna get

664
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: those kinds of players because they have a clear plan

665
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: and they know how to get those guys uh loosen

666
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: involved in the office. Yeah, it's like you go to

667
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: the grocery store. I'm going to the grocery I'm gonna

668
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: get chicken. I know I want. I'm gonna have chicken

669
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: for dinner. And then all of a sudden, I'm like

670
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm on the pasta isle, like what do you come

671
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: here for pasta in the wrong in the wrong island.

672
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: So they shot and get the wrong the wrong kind

673
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: of player, and so it just kind of changes. It

674
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: just changes so much about what they want to do

675
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: and how they have to do it. All right, offensive

676
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: lineman that had their option to decline Caleb McGary with

677
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: the Falcons, Bradberry Garrett Bradberry with the Vikings, and Andre

678
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Dillard with the Eagles. Let me take the last two

679
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: because I went back through and looked at my notes.

680
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Bradbury and Dillard both ultra ultra athletic. Both of them

681
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: had play strength questions. So I think I'm gonna kind

682
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: of label that is. You know, when you when you're

683
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: greating offensive lineman and they have a play strength concern,

684
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, I just get stronger, you know,

685
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: it just needs to get stronger. But I don't know

686
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: that that that's you get dangerous when you get into

687
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: that territory. I've had other offensive linement I missed on

688
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: both these guys. Other offensive linement I've missed on I've

689
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: made that same mistake. So it's a it's a little

690
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: lesson for me. Um those those alarm bells should go

691
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: off when you say a great athlete but doesn't have

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: play strength, that should can sern you. Yeah, like DJ,

693
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: it's tough man, because you can't tell me that Gary

694
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: Bradbery was not gonna be a terrific zone blocker. Like,

695
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: like even we talk about fit in scheme, I'm like,

696
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: what this scheme is perfect? Gary kubi X scheme is

697
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: like the perfect thing for him when you watch them,

698
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: like it's screamed, this is a zone center. Look at

699
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: him track and run, watching moves like how athletic he is,

700
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, play play strength matters your ability to move people.

701
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: Because what happens is we're kind of seeing this thing

702
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: in the league where we're seeing these big three pounds

703
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: guys that they put it right over the top of

704
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: the center and he's just beating him into submission. You know,

705
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: like Viava is one of one in terms of that,

706
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: but we are seeing more of those big guys with

707
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: size and athleticism give you problems at the point of attack.

708
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: And if you don't have the ability to at least

709
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: still made him at the line of scrimmage, it's hard

710
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: to put him on the field. I think it's connected

711
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: to when you look at all the two high safety

712
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: trend that we have in the league right now. Okay, well,

713
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play with two high safeties, you've got

714
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: fewer guys in the box, which means teams are trying

715
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: to get bigger up front with their guys because they

716
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: don't have as many of them up there. And I

717
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: think that maybe works against against him a little bit.

718
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: So um, and then you had Caleb McGarry. When I

719
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: go back through to me, it was just a little bit.

720
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: There was a tightness issue, a stiffness issue that was

721
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: his concern. Real physical, real tough, totally different than the

722
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: other two. But I guess you kind of say, like, man,

723
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: you've got somebody's really tight, and I mean, obviously, well

724
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: all the geez, you go figure you want real athletics,

725
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: strong guys, you know, like okay, but I know not

726
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: that simple. And then and but then, but you know,

727
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: like the thing about the offensive line, the offensive line.

728
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: We're talking about houses before we clicked on live, but

729
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: the offensive line, the neighborhood matters more than any other position,

730
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Like the composition of all five really matters. And so

731
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: like it's one thing to have the guy that is

732
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: the rugged, maller brawler, but if the other guys are not,

733
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work because, as your offense according and

734
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out the best way to play,

735
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: if everyone is unable to play the same way, you're

736
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: limited and someone gets exposed and sofa Kelly mcgeary. When

737
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: I look at the rest of that offensive line, he

738
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit of the outlier in terms of

739
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: his style of playing. With the strength of his game

740
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: was all right, let's get to these defensive line I

741
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: mean a Cliff Ferrell, Jerry Tillery and l J. Collier.

742
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Options weren't picked up. Let's let's work back to front here.

743
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: L J. Collier, first of all, I just thought, I mean,

744
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: he was my fifty six player buck, I mean, that

745
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: was I just I didn't see him so okay, So

746
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: when I was looking at him coming out, I didn't

747
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: know what the blue trade was. He ran four he

748
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: ran four nine one. Yeah, But but in watching him,

749
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: he was more of a power rusher than a than

750
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: an explosive rusher off the edge. And there's a place

751
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: in the league for the power players. But power players

752
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: typically aren't high level pass rushers. You know they and

753
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: so I just overdraft. Yep, he was overdrafted. So he

754
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: was Yeah, he was twenty seven spots overdrafted. But yeah

755
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: he did not test well. Um, I'm looking at my notes.

756
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: All power, he's got some shock in his hands. Um,

757
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: struggle versus angle blocks. Now, this is the other thing

758
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: I want to get to that ties these three guys together. L. J.

759
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: Collier was six o two to two eighty three. Twe right,

760
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: But then you look at what we remember, like is

761
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: the inside is the outside? You know? Some people say

762
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the versatilities a positive. Other people will say that he

763
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: doesn't fit. He's a tweinter. He doesn't fit either. Spot

764
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery. Jerry Tillery with the Chargers and I see

765
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: him all the time. Jerry Tillery is is kind of

766
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: interesting because he's got a six ft He's six oh

767
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: six nine three. So you said, okay, he's an interior guy.

768
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: He's actually more comfortable rushing on the edge. He plays

769
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: too high, he gets banged around inside. So he's another

770
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: guy who's kind of a tweener. He's not you know,

771
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: he likes to rush on the edge, but he's built

772
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: like somebody who should play inside. Um, the Stanford game.

773
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: You know her big in that game. Going back through

774
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: my notes, he just moved him and mauled him in

775
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: that game. So it's kind of doesn't really have a fit,

776
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a home. Cleveland Farrell, I mean Buck,

777
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: he was the fourth pick. Where wi you on my list?

778
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I think I had Farrell? He was my nineteenth guy.

779
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: So again was overdrafted. If you remember, he did not

780
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: run a forty because everybody knew he was gonna run slow.

781
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: But he was somebody who's six o four three two

782
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: sixty four really kind of at his best inside because

783
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: he didn't have any juice coming off the edge. So

784
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: he's got an outside body with an inside skill set.

785
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: These guys all just weren't fits, like they were just

786
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: kind of tweeners. So so here's maybe the scouting lesson

787
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: in all the things that we're talking about. Because if

788
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: you go, you talked about those guys, didn't you talk

789
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: about uh bradberry Um, who's the other lineman that we

790
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: talked about. So so dj it is when we talk

791
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: about first round is because all those guys, the first

792
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: round picks, it's the certainty, like what we're talking about,

793
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: and we've said this, I don't need home runs. I

794
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: can deal with doubles. And so it's being able to

795
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: stand in front of the room and say, Okay, he's

796
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: an expert or he's a master of this part of

797
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: his craft. I know exactly where he is in this area,

798
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: as opposed to there too many questions the play outside

799
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: or inside um is he is his own player? Is

800
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: he gap scheme player or whatever? In the first round

801
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: where we're talking about the best of the best, when

802
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: you're picking someone, you want to be able to check

803
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: off all the boxes. He does this. This is how

804
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna play him. This is what impact he's going

805
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: to give us because he is great at this. Now,

806
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: if what he's great at doesn't fit us, cool, but

807
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: your first round player, it should be clear a parent

808
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: what he's great at. He has to have an a

809
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: plug first pitch and you know what exactly what that

810
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: first pitch is, and no one can match him when

811
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: it comes to that. And all of those players that

812
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: we are talking about, there were questions even in you're

813
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: talking about your notes and me talking about my report, like,

814
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: there were questions about all of them that just should

815
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: have made you pause a little bit. Now, look, are

816
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: people that work for those teams that took them, like,

817
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you guys have hindsight whatever. But no, like

818
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: when we talk about it, there were some questions that

819
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: had to be addressed. When you're talking about in the

820
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: first round, this is different. It's different in the first

821
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: round compared to other rounds. No, it's interesting when you

822
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: kind of take those lessons and you apply them to

823
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of the most recent draft class and see some

824
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: of those guys that, man, okay, maybe there were some

825
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: warning signs with with some of these dudes. Um the

826
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: last two and I'll put them together here, even though

827
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: it's a linebacker in a safety Devin Bush for the

828
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Steelers and Jonathan Abram with the Raiders, two players. I'll

829
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: be honest, I love both these guys coming out. So

830
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of falling on sword on some

831
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: of these here. But those guys what we loved about

832
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: him Buck that could both fly. They could both big

833
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: time run, big time hitters, big time tempo like bring energy,

834
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: all those things that we love. The one question mark

835
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: on both of them was just some cover stuff, some

836
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: man cover stuff. And if you look at it and

837
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: the league that we're in right now, linebackers and safeties.

838
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: If you can't cover, it's hard. Man. You can have

839
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: all that other stuff going for you, but it just

840
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: limits you. And you're gonna get exposed if you can't cover.

841
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: If you can't cover, you're gonna be uh exposed. And

842
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: you have to have something else that counteracts that liability.

843
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: So if you can't cover it, then you better be

844
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: a darn good blitzer. Like you have to be a

845
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: guy that when we put you into sub packages, we

846
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: can find a way to impact. I'll call it Jamal

847
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Adams effect. And even though there's some some conversations about

848
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: maybe bars remorse in terms of how he played last

849
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: year given the money, Like, you have to have a

850
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Speaker 1: trait that enables the defensive coordinator to put you on

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Speaker 1: the field and in a position impact the game. And

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00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: so Jonathan Abrams is a terrific hitter. I don't know

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00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: if he's a great tackler. And then there's the the

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00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: questions and coverage and look, let's be honest, durability has

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00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: been an issue, Like he's been banged up a lot,

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Speaker 1: and and so that's the problem. But your safeties have

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Speaker 1: to be able to cover in this league, and I

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Speaker 1: I was said that this is going all the way

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Speaker 1: back when I was working in Seattle. Dick roach Um,

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Speaker 1: former secondary coach, us to say this, and ideal secondary

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Speaker 1: is one where there's one safety and three corners, and

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00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: that strong safety or whatever type should be a corner

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Speaker 1: that can come down and play your tied in or

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Speaker 1: your slot receiver without us having to go to nickel.

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Speaker 1: And at the time this would be a dated reference,

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Speaker 1: but he said, Sean Springs will be a perfect strong

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00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: safety type in our league. And so Sean Springs, which

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00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: is like a Charles Woodson type, like a bigger cornerback

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Speaker 1: who had agility and athleticism to be able to play

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00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: out why but also come in the slot. That is

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00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: ideally what you're looking for to be able to do it.

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Speaker 1: They can play in the box, they can play man

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Speaker 1: and man. You don't have to hide those guys in

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Speaker 1: the passing yet. Yep. No, it's a that's a great point,

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00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: you know, one of as many corners on the field

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Speaker 1: you can possibly get out there. Um, all right, well

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Speaker 1: that's it. Those are those are the guys. Some interesting

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00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: lessons there and again try and apply those as we

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Speaker 1: go forward. Um. I think that is helpful. Anything else

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Speaker 1: you want to hit on, Buck before we get out

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00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: of here. It's been a great time back together. No,

882
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: that was great. It was a great conversation. The fifth

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Speaker 1: year option stuff, you know, like because this is the time,

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Speaker 1: do you like before we begin to dig into next

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00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: year's draft class because we're getting up. I think the

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00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: guys are going into meetings here in the next week

887
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: or so to go and get the first list of

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00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: national meetings. National meetings are we begin to talk. So

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00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: what you want to do as a scout, you want

890
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Speaker 1: to kind of do some reflection, look at what you've learned,

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00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: look at what has happened over the last couple of years,

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00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: look at the guys in the league that are playing

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00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that maybe you surprise you before you get the intel

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00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: on this new class because you kind of want to

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00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: have a fresh set of eyes with new info. They

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00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: may be help you grade the new class um based

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00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: on the information that you've got to kind of be

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Speaker 1: able to like, Okay, you know what, I might need

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Speaker 1: to be a little more lenient or a little more

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Speaker 1: stringent on some of these things based on how the

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00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: league is trending and what is playing in the league

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00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: as opposed to what is not having successfull league, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Um Man, it's been fun to be back together. I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed hanging out with us here.

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Speaker 1: We do appreciate you sticking with us. Um We will

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Speaker 1: be back here in a couple of days do this

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Speaker 1: all over again. Thanks to the Bill for a wonderful

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00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: job putting this together as he does each and every week.

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Speaker 1: And see you next time right here on. Move the sticks.