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Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts. Now, what's up Stradios? It is Sam

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Speaker 1: and George on a gorgeous Saturday morning recording our podcast

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Speaker 1: known as Stradio Lab internationally. Sam, your voice has a

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Speaker 1: coziness to it today. I actually felt that and I

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Speaker 1: but now it's it's in a way where I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, um through what's the word? Um? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm still I don't need no podcast until I've had

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Speaker 1: my coffee. So yeah, yeah, you're drinking car I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing iced coffee. Is that correct? Yeah? But for

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Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. It's because I ever since we had

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Speaker 1: Josh sharpon truly, I subscribed to Gradyes like like cold

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Speaker 1: much money? Really, oh, because you normally buy it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I keep saying I'm not going to it, but then

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this is so much better. Yeah. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to your voice, okay, because

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Speaker 1: to me, it was like when you started speaking. I

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Speaker 1: was like, it had the vibe of like, no, homo,

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Speaker 1: but it had the vibe of like waking up next

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Speaker 1: to you and then you turn and you're like, hey, babe, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's really something. I I'm glad I do have that range.

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Speaker 1: I feel the channel that in a way that is

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Speaker 1: to sometimes jump before you look, look, leap before you look,

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Speaker 1: you get it before you look. Yeah, George, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing on this gorgeous morning? I'm good. I am

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Speaker 1: baby baby. How are you doing on this gorgeous morning?

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Speaker 1: Hey babe, made some oatmeal. I slept late. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I love staying in bed with my baby. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well. I woke up at Matthews and then came here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, when you already have been

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Speaker 1: already you feel like you're commuting. Yes, it is now

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Speaker 1: legally a Wednesday. For it's not legally a Wednesday, and

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Speaker 1: I have a deadline coming up, and guess what I'm

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Speaker 1: late on it. Not to mention all my troubles and love.

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Speaker 1: Mention all my troubles and love. Yes, I was running

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Speaker 1: away from my boyfriend on the subway. Um, but I'm good.

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Speaker 1: It is uh not to be you know, not to

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Speaker 1: talk about the weather. But I don't know if you've

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Speaker 1: been outside today today it's officially fall. It's officially fall, y'all,

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Speaker 1: it's fucking cold out. I'm you know, this is I

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Speaker 1: hate the seasons. Can I just say that I've always

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Speaker 1: been interested interesting say more because I'm like, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: like it always leaves you wanting, like when it's summer,

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Speaker 1: I want fall when it's fall, I want winter when

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Speaker 1: it's winter. I want summer when it's spring. I'm unhappy.

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Speaker 1: I'm never content. And it's a metaphor for you know,

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Speaker 1: always craving. It's consumerism. It is consumerism, You're right. I

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Speaker 1: mean it is like it's designed to uh well, even

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Speaker 1: told you my pitch? Tell me, okay, hear me out

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Speaker 1: fall Monday Tuesday, Winter is on Wednesday, that spring is

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Speaker 1: understand like you've You've ranted it in a way that

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Speaker 1: is certainly compelling. I could absolutely see you pitching this

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Speaker 1: Why because you couldn't, I mean you because it's too

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Speaker 1: much change. I mean, talk about consumerism. You have to

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Speaker 1: I definitely think, um sort of our economy would shift

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Speaker 1: So you are in Mayby. I mean you're creating jobs

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Speaker 1: left and right. Really, Yeah, let's call Joe. Who's Joe Biden? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Heard of him? Heard of him? Interesting? Um, we both

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Speaker 1: watched Dune last night. I know, do we want to

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Speaker 1: I went to the big theater? Maybe? Really? Yeah? Wow? Um?

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Speaker 1: It's just part of the plot of Dune is that

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Speaker 1: Then you make people do things. So suddenly if I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Well they're a sponsor of the film. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: which which actor from Girls would you like to add

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Speaker 1: aren't they discovering their careers? They're like learning their powers

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the universe. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to create a narrative out of a blue

423
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Speaker 1: sky other than like positive like good vibes only. And

424
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Speaker 1: it's hard to create a narrative out of a cloudy

425
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Speaker 1: sky other than like danger like it's it's not super

426
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: malleable for like Okay, so you're saying it's actually a

427
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Speaker 1: pretty like, um, she's a simple girl. Like she it's

428
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Speaker 1: like straightforward with her straightforward Okay, I see. I think

429
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Speaker 1: that depends on where where are you from them? What climate? Climatically?

430
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Speaker 1: Where are you from? Um, what's the climate of say,

431
00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: like I'm from Michigan and Virginia. Okay, Okay, I feel

432
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: like because okay, Virginia you get all the seasons. Yeah, right, Like,

433
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: and I'm from North Carolina also get all the seasons,

434
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: whereas like if you're from the Pacific Northwest, you must

435
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: have to figure out a ways not Oh, I see

436
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, Like if you're like yeah, yeah,

437
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: so you can't just like wake up every day thinking

438
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: like the sky is ominous and sad, you'll you'd you know,

439
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: be depressed, right, or if you're from if you're in

440
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: like I think like there's lots of like ominous blue

441
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: sky and like breaking bad, you know, totally because if

442
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: it's totally empty, When it's totally empty, you're like, what

443
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: are the clouds afraid of? Right? Also if it's well,

444
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: there's also just like the there's the thing of like

445
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: when the sky is really blue and beautiful but you

446
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: can't but you're inside and you can't take advantage of it,

447
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's mocking you. Mm hmmm hmm. Sure.

448
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, when I'm in say l A, I

449
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: can feel sad when there's a gorgeous blue sky. Well yeah,

450
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: that's because l A makes you sad. But it's hard

451
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: to feel sad when you're in New York City and

452
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: there's a gorgeous blue sky, Like I am just like, okay,

453
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: now I'm happy. It doesn't matter what's really going on.

454
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: I'm in a good mood. I agree. I I like it.

455
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: I like working when it's really nice outside because it

456
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 1: makes I look. I like position myself near that, like

457
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Speaker 1: bio win and then I'm I mean, I'm just very

458
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: susceptible too, like sad Capital said, sure, um, but I

459
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: can't use the I can't use the light therapy things

460
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: because it will make me crazy interesting. But you like

461
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: it as a backdrop, basically, I think that's artistic. It's

462
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: like you're already able to remove yourself. It's you don't

463
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: see a blue sky and you're like, I have to

464
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I have to go outside. You think this

465
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Speaker 1: is a perfect ah painting backdrop. Up to my sending emails,

466
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: it's less than a back it's more it's more environmental.

467
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Speaker 1: It's like there's a dynamism to this guy. I like

468
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: writing on trains too. I like the feeling that like

469
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: something's happening and that I'm like part of the like

470
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: the pulsing of the world. You know, Okay, I that

471
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: writing on trains thing is very real. I like I

472
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: issue a challenge to any listener ride on a train

473
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Speaker 1: and don't feel like randomly emotional like right, well, movement

474
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: is emotionally overwhelming in all forms. It's so much. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: the train is the ultimate exploring the space. Yeah, yeah,

476
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: that's right. You can't be more explorable. It always comes

477
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: in clothes you can move in to bring it back

478
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: to the musical theater. Wow, that's very true. Um. Wait,

479
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: should we do our first segment? Sam? I was literally

480
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: going to say the exact same thing. Okay. The crazy

481
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: thing is I have to get my phone for it.

482
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Speaker 1: I'll be right back for Oh my goodness. Well, then

483
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: it's on me to describe what the segment is. So

484
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: this segment is called straight Shooters, and in it we

485
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: ask you a series of ractifier questions UM to gauge

486
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: your familiarity with and complicity and straight culture. Um basically

487
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: this or this, and you pick one and you can't

488
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: ask any foll of the questions or we will get

489
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: piste off. Um, George, do you want to kick us off? Yes? Um,

490
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: hard sci fi or soft core porn, hard snag bugs,

491
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Speaker 1: Bunny or Mad's Milkinson, Mads milkenson mas oh, and I

492
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: think Nicholson, actually Nicholson, And this is why you're here.

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Speaker 1: We never mas Michelson, which is a much less dignified name.

494
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Being named Christopher and going by Tofer, or being named

495
00:29:53,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Christian and going by Zian. You named the Christian and

496
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: going by Zane Um. Fighting online for Harry Styles or

497
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: fighting overseas for Joe Biden. Oh, Harry Styles, getting a

498
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Speaker 1: divorce or getting a pet horse, getting a divorce, having

499
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Speaker 1: malaise or being morose, Oh, malaise. Loving Wes Anderson or

500
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: hating Wes Anderson. I'm seeing French Dispatch literally right after this. Um,

501
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: so hating with Anderson. Wow, that's a rich topic, George. Um, Okay,

502
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: this is a tough one. Being a scientist in a

503
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: movie and having your funding polled, or being in a

504
00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: sci fi movie and someone saying here eat, um, here

505
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: you eat. That's so genius, Sam, Thank you. I've been

506
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: obsessed because I watched like Foundation and then Dune, and

507
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: like I've really been obsessed with the people that like

508
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: save the person and they're like drink you need like

509
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: that person is always like why we need to find

510
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: a better way to write that line. It's always the same,

511
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: like eat, it's just being like genre conventions. I'm not

512
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: a huge like genre fan, which we'll get into later,

513
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: but like, there's something so comforting about knowing the rules

514
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: of the world. I've been recently rewatching like the Daniel

515
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: Craig James Bonds, and I'm like, it is so nice

516
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: that I just like know the beats going in and

517
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: then they have fun with it and I'm like, oh, cool,

518
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the Bond girl dies this time, that's fun. Oh, my

519
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: friend George loves it when the Bond girl. I love

520
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: when the Bond girl dies. In fact, both the ones

521
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: I've seen recently, the Bond girl lies and I'm like, Okay,

522
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: try something new. Maybe she lives. Is is shot by

523
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the gay the fruity Bond villain? Yeah? In skyfall By,

524
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: I have to say I was like, there's something about

525
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: that where it didn't land as much as it should have.

526
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Speaker 1: I was like, I actually thought it was more gay

527
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Speaker 1: when Mad's Michelson, What how do you pronounce his name?

528
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: I think it's mass Michelson mas Michelson. Um you making

529
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: that up? What if I'm what if I'm just completely

530
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: like trolling you right now, I mean, listen, I it

531
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: would not be the first time I am so deferential

532
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: when someone tells me how to pronounce something, and I'm

533
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: constantly weird that I'm mispronouncing everything. It's also pronounced Javier

534
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: part of okay. I mean, that's one of those names

535
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: where like if you are not were one of those

536
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: words where it's like if you didn't I grew up,

537
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: like if you didn't grow up like hearing Spanish or

538
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: learning Spanish, like I remember first seeing like ha haha

539
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: and Spanish. I think it was Jo and I was like, oh,

540
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: what does that mean anyway? Jvier. I I do think

541
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be like a notch more gay.

542
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: We've already talked about this with Sam, but yeah, I

543
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: sky Fall is like a movie, um not unlike Inception

544
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: where it like made me angry, like I was mad afterwards. Andrea,

545
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: where do you stand on queer coded villains? Oh? I

546
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: uh love them and I think there should be more

547
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: of them and frankly feel that all villains are queer

548
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: coded totally on some level. I you know, I was

549
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: thinking when I rewatched sky fallow recently. It's so weird

550
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: that we're all doing that, just like just like we're

551
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: all just little uh you know what's the word, you know,

552
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: like we're all just everyone thinks you're so original and

553
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: we're all doing the same thing. We're lemmings. Yeah, we're lemmings. Um.

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: I remember rewatching it and there's a long shot where

555
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: like the cameras like right next to bond Nick, next

556
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to Daniel Krash and and and and Javier is walking

557
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: towards the cap and doing them doing a monologue and

558
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: it's like a one unbroken shot and he's like out

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00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: of focus and comes, Oh, I know exactly what you're

560
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: talking about. That's like the about the Rodents. Yeah, it's

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00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: a great shot. And he's doing he's like it's the

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: introduction of the character. Is the first time we meet him.

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00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: We don't see him. He likes in focus. I think

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00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: by the end of the shot, and I have Chris

565
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: had seen this movie back when it came out, um,

566
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: and it took me. It was as if that shot

567
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: had been designed for me to remember that the character

568
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: was gay. That like when he was in the background,

569
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: like far away from the camera. I didn't even remember

570
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: it was Javier bard Dam, and then like a third

571
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: of the way through, it was like, oh my god,

572
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: it's Harrier bard Dam. And then as he got closer,

573
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wait, is he gay? Then he

574
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: arrives and he has that crazy blonde wig on, and

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00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh right, this is it's a faggot.

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: This is the point of the movie. Is that he's gay. Yeah. Yeah.

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00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: The cinematographer um talked about how the focus was actually

578
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: sort of a metaphor for the closet and as he

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00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: came into focus, he came out of the closet. Huh okay,

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00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: film scholar j Yeah. Every I also like, I'm sure

581
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: this joke has been made a billion times, but the

582
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: blonde hair was a real is a real dead giveaway.

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00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: It's very you know, he underwent trauma, so then he

584
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: bleached his hair exactly. And then of course Jadie Dench

585
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: is his like unsupportive mother. I mean, I appreciate it, honestly.

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00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: I think it's that, you know, the the kresh Bond

587
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: films have undergone a sort of have themselves are in

588
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: a way themselves walking toward us coming into focus and

589
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: becoming gay. WHOA wow? Say that you know it's because

590
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: they've become more and more you know, sort of the

591
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: cheesiness because I was very very serious. Yes, it was tasteful,

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: very serious, you know Eva Green, you know, Ava Green

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00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: a klan and of because she dies, of course. And

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00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: and but then as they you know, like Specter was

595
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: just you know, with like Dave Bautista on the train,

596
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: just just very very silly. I have to say, I'm

597
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of people criticize the Danielle kres Bonds

598
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: as being overly serious, and and I've like fallen into

599
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: this too, where I'm like, God, I miss just like

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: the pure camp nous of like Octopusy, like the idea

601
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: that one of the films was literally named octopusy and

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00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: they just like leaned into it, or even like I

603
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: feel like the Piers Rosman ones were camping. I mean

604
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: there was one like Fences with Madonna, like and I'm like, oh, yeah,

605
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: I do miss that to some extent. But then I'm like,

606
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: maybe though fully leaning into the earnest seriousness is like

607
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: even more gay than trying to be campy. Yeah, I

608
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: think that has to be. I think that's I think

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00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: that's right. I think I endorse this reading thank you.

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00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a great time to get into

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00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: what our topic is. I could not be more ready.

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00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I am shaking with anticipation because we've been in film corner.

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Speaker 1: This episode is film corner, and are we are. We're

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00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: very film corner. Recently. Our first Patreon episode was also

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00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: a film corner. Before we do though, am I allowed

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00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: as a guest to suggest my own straight shooter. You

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00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: can do them anytime you want. It's honestly, now that

618
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I say it, I'm like incredibly insecure that it's something

619
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: I heard at the live show and then forgot about

620
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: and have remembered. And I'm about to tell you your

621
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: own joke, which will just be well, that will be

622
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: very fun for everyone involved. So I hope that's what

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00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: it is. And no one's heard the live show. Also, yes,

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00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know, Sam I told

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00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: you us, but Andrew was at her live show and

626
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: attack later told me she volunteered to be one of

627
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: the people we brought up, but I couldn't see her

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00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: because she was like in the dark, so I could

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00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: have been. But I want to know the straight shooter.

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Speaker 1: The straight shooter is link later or LinkedIn. Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: a good one. That is a good one. I don't

632
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Speaker 1: think we've done that. We haven't. No, that's perfect. We

633
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Speaker 1: have not film corner for film corner. Here's my note.

634
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Speaker 1: Here's my note. It's what's his first name, Richard, Richard.

635
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: I feel like it should be like just adding one

636
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: more syllable like richard, link later or LinkedIn premium. Right. See,

637
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: there's the professionalism jump. I mean, we've been doing this

638
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: for almost two years. Problem is that no one knows

639
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: what other words go with LinkedIn, right Yeah, Whereas I'm

640
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: such a huge Linda, I don't know what the gesture

641
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: of vocabulary of LinkedIn is. You know what I mean?

642
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: I like, do you like? Do you? Do you rebog?

643
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Do you? What do you do? Do you link you?

644
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: It's called LinkedIn because you like even link bro. I

645
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: feel like LinkedIn, Lincoln is actually a crazy I don't

646
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: obviously spent a lot of time on it, but often

647
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: I'll see, like, basically, it's like imagine if social media

648
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: was all like through the lens of professional life. So

649
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: everyone is like trying how everyone has the same goals

650
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: of like trying to get attention, trying to have like

651
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: an interesting take, trying to make friends, except all of

652
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: it is it's all a giant networking event, like it's

653
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: actually kind of crazy y No sure, but like imagine

654
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: then everyone's affict being that of you know, like business casual.

655
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: Twitter is like that, but it's like a dinner party,

656
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: let's say, or like or like after a concert people

657
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: are talking or or or maybe maybe Twitter is like

658
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: being in like the Q and a session of a

659
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: post film like event. But then LinkedIn is literally being

660
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: like in a Marriott hotel after the conference and everyone

661
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: is wearing blazers horrible. Yeah yeah? Or is it you know,

662
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: a fertile ground for disruption and I will be the

663
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: number one LinkedIn comedian A god, Wait, let's do Let's

664
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: get into the top. Sorry, as soon as we talked

665
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: about the time we were in film corner, we moved

666
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: away from film corner. Let's get into the top o

667
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: the top that you brought onto your program today. Let's

668
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: get into the top of me having sex. Whoo. UM,

669
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Speaker 1: Andrea please introduced this topic. UM. So this topic is

670
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Speaker 1: UH the Marvel Cinematic Universe UM or m c U,

671
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: as as we will henceforth referred to it UM. Sending

672
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: the terms. First of the cinematic universe is of course,

673
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: now the cinematic universe has caught on as a concept. Yeah,

674
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: but so this is the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It began

675
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: with Iron Man, which was released in a year in

676
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: a year many in my mind, like two six does

677
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: that sound right? I think I was in college, but

678
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: like I was in high school? Me too, drag me.

679
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: I was in college but I was. Yeah, so so

680
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: you know it was um yeah, two thousand, I want

681
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: to say eight, okay um, and has since spawned many

682
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: films something probably over twenty movies about superheroes, which are

683
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: like heroes but more okay, and you know, they're not

684
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: like teachers or firefighters. They're a little bit more. They're

685
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: not frontline workers. I'll tell you that. Oh, they're the

686
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: frontist line work. I guess they are in a sense

687
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: frontline workers. Do you think the front line workers would

688
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: have anything to do if aliens were destroying the world,

689
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: that's true. Fairy clap at the first responder. Do they

690
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: clapped for the Marvel movies The Avengers, Yeah, they they

691
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: they they clap back. That's the tagline that they they

692
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: and rock sand Gay clap back. That's actually Yeah, that's

693
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: the tagline for the Eternals is the Eternals they clap back.

694
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: That's honestly not far from what Rock sand Gay got

695
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: paid millions of dollars to consult and she came up

696
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: with that catchphrase tagline. So they they made a lot

697
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: of movies and now there are and and now television

698
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: shows on the on the streaming platform. UM, Disney Plus

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00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: signed and which which. Okay, have you actually looked at

700
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: the Disney Plus logo? Have you like regarded it? I

701
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: know that the plus sign is cur like the vertical

702
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: part of curve lightly curved, which is totally natural, but

703
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: it is because it has to make that arc, that

704
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Disney arc that originally went over the castle. Um. But

705
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: so the plus sign is slightly curved so that it

706
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: matches the arc. And it is absolutely insane looking when

707
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: you actually consider it. Well, they're trying to do too much.

708
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: This is um upsetting, Yeah upset? Yeah? Wait wait wait,

709
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: so tell us your history with your history with the

710
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic Universe when you knew you were a fan, um,

711
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: and that's right, that's right. She hasn't said that. And

712
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: then I also want to know kind of like what

713
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: is straight about it? And why you chose it as

714
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: a topic. When did I know I was a fan?

715
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: Is such a gay way to ask that question? Oh

716
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: my God, give me a break. When did you first know? Yeah? Wow,

717
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: it is true that, like we are in third grade,

718
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: there was this superhero in my class and I just

719
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: wanted to be her friend. Yeah, we can never get

720
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: past the lane ring of keys. That's Andrea meeting the superhero.

721
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: If there's were if there's were a gay podcast like

722
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: about uh, I would I would be talking about fun

723
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Home for sure? For sure? Um at which when I

724
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: saw a fun home Bill Gates was there? Really because

725
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: there's in the round and he was all he was

726
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: in the round. He was on the other side of

727
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: the round. Bill Gates, who, because he's a man over

728
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: a certain age who has retained his hair, now looks

729
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: like a lesbian. Wow, that is so true. I never

730
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: thought about that that man that maintained their hair looked

731
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: like lesbians. Yeah. Sure, Wait, who's okay? In the Marvel

732
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: cinematic universe, who's the man who's like in God Winter Soldier?

733
00:45:52,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh? An old man that retains his hair?

734
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: William Hurt Is that his name? Like what the also

735
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: Winter Soldier Robert Redford, isn't that one? That one? That's

736
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: one he does look like a lesbian. Yeah, totally. And

737
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: when a great little theory skin gets a little softer

738
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: and kind of like they all become sort of like

739
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: Cherry Jones style. Honestly, way, that's very beautiful. Yeah, I

740
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: mean ages feminizing, We know this. Do you think age

741
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: is feminizing? Feminizing? So then here's a question for you.

742
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: It was like you become less capable of of rational thought? Um, yeah,

743
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: dragging all women for filth. But I have a question. Literally,

744
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Sam doesn't know anything about me. Sam doesn't know that

745
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: that's literally my brand, that's right, Yeah, Andrews hating women?

746
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: Link me, Sam, Yeah, we gotta link up. Think. So,

747
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: do you think then that when women uh age, you know,

748
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: like when women um do things to prevent their aging,

749
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: they are inadvertently making themselves more masculine. No interesting question.

750
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Now they're trying to they're trying to stay they're trying

751
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: to continue looking straight. Oh so you're saying it's not

752
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: only feminizing, it's les bon izing. Yes, because because when

753
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: when it's like feminizing but not in a fem way, right,

754
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: which is why, like a Willem Dafoe like a great example,

755
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: because because there are there are actresses who, like, after

756
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: a certain age, they decide they're gonna like go with

757
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: short hair, right like, and they're they're going to sort

758
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: of lean into the kind of the Dike direction and

759
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: become kind of gay icon, not just two gay men

760
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: as they were probably when they were younger, but also

761
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: to lesbians. I think I think that's I think when

762
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: they're trying to make them like you think of like

763
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: a like a Robin right, oh my god, yeah, or

764
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: or a carry on Moss right, who have like really

765
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: leaned into this sort of like mommy thing. Yeah, yeah,

766
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: I do love the theory that time makes lesbians of us. All. Well,

767
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's fascinating because it is true that lesbians

768
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: are the only people that age gracefully exactly exactly, And

769
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: so the best thing you can hope for if you

770
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: want to age gracefully is turning into a lesbian. Lesbianism

771
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: eradic sizes one uh female age and authority, yeah and

772
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: um like non cosmetic intervention, right, So it is eating

773
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: on the opposites of those but like there's a category

774
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: that exists for that right, doesn't exist anywhere else. Right, Well,

775
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: it's basically like a subculture where it's like the only

776
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: place where aging is not vilified. And therefore if because

777
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: it's celebrated, one can age powerfully and gratefully. But straight man,

778
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: it's also not really vilified. They get away with a

779
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: lot as far as aging. I think THEO and correct

780
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Andrew. But it's like the hair

781
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: thing is interesting because like it, balding is vilified. So

782
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: your option is to either become a lesbian or become

783
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: the forbidden aged man that doesn't have hair. I mean,

784
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: it's true that there are. It's true there are, you know.

785
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: So like on the other side of this, you have

786
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: like a Steve Correll who like who blew up you

787
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: know when? Yeah? When he But that also involves facial hair.

788
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: I think, yeah that Wait, we have to get back

789
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: to the central to central topic, the Marvel cinematic unit.

790
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: What what is straight about it? To you? What is

791
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: straight about it is that it's about is that they're

792
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: all essentially cops, correct right, Um, that they're like they're

793
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: like Earth cops for Earth, um, though not in every

794
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, on the smaller scale ones weirder things happen

795
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: because one of the one of the one of the

796
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: things that's cool about it, or you don't have to

797
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: call it cool, but that's interesting is that there are

798
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: so many films now that, especially for the smaller ones,

799
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: they will give them to directors and just let them

800
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of do whatever so long as an act three

801
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: something blows up. And so like ant Man is a

802
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: heist movie that happens to be a superhero movie, and

803
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Black Widow is a spy movie that happens to be

804
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: a superhero movie, and um thor Ragnarok, the third thor

805
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: the one thor they got right, um, which is take

806
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: away t T is just like a like a sort

807
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: of space buddy comedy, you know, so they have there's

808
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: like a variety of things that happened, but ultimately, um,

809
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: Face Cops, Earth Cops. That's very straight. Um they're all straight,

810
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: except for one of the eternals is going to be

811
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: presumably nominally gay, played by Brian Terry Henry. I think, yeah,

812
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: And which why we couldn't just just get Brian Tyry

813
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Henry as a as a whole film to himself is

814
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: it is It's part of why this is so straight. Yeah, well,

815
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean right, well, gay, you can't have a game

816
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: main character, and when you do, it will be um,

817
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: you know Neil Patrick, Harris, Henry gam real life. No,

818
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: this is something I've wondered forever and it's based on

819
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: literally nothing. But one time somebody posted like like like

820
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: I think literally like Larry Owens supposed to like Yale

821
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: queen or something like that, and like, but I was

822
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: kind of like, but I was. He said it in

823
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: a way that was like, wait, is Brian try Henry gay?

824
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: And then I messaged him is Brian Terry Henrigue? And

825
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: Larry said like something like just like really vague, and

826
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not an answer, And so now

827
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I've always thought it and

828
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: will I'll tell you one thing. If he is, I

829
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: guarantee you that coming out will be part of the

830
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: promost equel for the Eternal. So we're about to find

831
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: out very fast. He's been holding it, he's been waiting

832
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: for the right time. This is not the first time

833
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: I've heard someone ask that question, so I also I'm

834
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: just saying I also have the question. So do you

835
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: guys Are you guys aware of the very Sam might

836
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: be aware of the place that's happened in Star Wars

837
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: when there was like like half a second kiss between

838
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: two women in the most really editable out half a

839
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: second kiss exactly exactly, they might have just tripped. It

840
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: was so funny and so like condescending. I was kind

841
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: of funny because of that, Like it was like, we

842
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: don't need I mean, that doesn't really help, but it was.

843
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: It was so the pandering was so it was like,

844
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: Pokemon go to the polls. They actually said that after

845
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: they kissed. She said, she said, Hey, do you wanna

846
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: Pokemon go to the polls? And then fight songs started playing.

847
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Um. But so there's a similar moment

848
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: in the Marvel movies. I don't know if you guys

849
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: are aware of it. In end games like do you

850
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: have a Okay? Do you George or Sam have like

851
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: a running sense of these as like things that exist

852
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: in the world but that you don't know anything about.

853
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: I've seen almost all of them. There's like two that

854
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: I haven't seen. I've seen Black Panther, I've seen one Division. Um.

855
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: I think I think those might be the only two

856
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: x Ta and Black Panther, and one division, but it's

857
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: also like, okay, I understand that when you're in it

858
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: and you to like go to the movies and like

859
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: are aware of when they're When you're not paying attention,

860
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: it basically all washes over you, and you just there's

861
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: just constantly one out and the posters all look very similar.

862
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: So you're just I'm just used to the fact that

863
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: at any given moment, various A list actors are promoting

864
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: some movie and the titles are also so comically not derivative.

865
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right word is, but like

866
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: I guess just similar. Like there's like the idea that

867
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: Endgame and what's the other one called like Forever War

868
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: in Infinity War, like Endgame Infinity War. There's another one

869
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: that's like civil Like all of them are just so

870
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: um similar that you they just like all wash over you.

871
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, yeah, didn't that one come

872
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: out last year? And it's like it came out in Yeah,

873
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: um it's true, but yeah, I'm I'm like I do.

874
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: And then it's also like crazy because I'm not keeping up.

875
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: But then occasional I'll see I'll learn that like Nicole

876
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: Kidman was an aquaman and it will make me feel

877
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: insane that that just is something that happened to Aman.

878
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: Is Aquaman is a DC movie ep um. However she

879
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: was She's in the center of the earth, got it

880
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: living on an island, because that was Aquaman, which was

881
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: That's the one important thing to remember is that the

882
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: difference between a Marvel movie and a DC movie is

883
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: that the Marvel movies are like, okay too actually good,

884
00:55:54,560 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: and the DC movies are terrible too, so terrible out

885
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: there fun like Momoa is just like yelling and jumping

886
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: at things. And for some reason, Patrick Wilson has his

887
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: and and uh Willem Dafoe has his hair have their

888
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: hair slicked back because when you live under the ocean,

889
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: everyone is in the mob. And ye. But yeah, that's

890
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: the that's the difference. Okay, the the in end game,

891
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: so in the movie before Josh Brolin came and got

892
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: his got all of the all of the gems in

893
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: his glove and his definite right and he snapped. Of course,

894
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: you know what the Santos snap is. No, you don't know,

895
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: that's it's a meme. It's a meme. That's like that's

896
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: very like does he snap his fingers yeah, I mean,

897
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: well wearing the well wearing the how much of what

898
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying do you have no idea what it is?

899
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: I can picture a thought us as this like giant,

900
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: like I know what he looks like, and I know

901
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: it's Josh Brolin. I don't know anything about the snap. Okay,

902
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: So he gets out there are these there are these gems. Okay,

903
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: there are these and they're cosmic forces condensed into jewelry.

904
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: And the all of the Marvel movies before have been

905
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: secretly about these gems and where they are. Got it,

906
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: They've slowly been being brought together. They've all been brought together.

907
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: And he gets them all into his gauntlet, this big,

908
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: olden gauntlet, and once they're all there, it will let

909
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: the wielder of the gauntlet do anything. And what Thanos

910
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: wants is to kill exactly half of all the life

911
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: in the universe for environmental reasons. Oh so he's like

912
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: a good guy. Yeah, this is the question. Santos was right, Um,

913
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: and he snaps, and that's why everyone that people that

914
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, they get turned into into dust or

915
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: ash or whatever it is. Okay. Now, the shocking thing

916
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: about Endgame, which was the next movie is that. So

917
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: it's right in the wake of that. Half of the

918
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Avengers are dead, have been snapped. The rest of the Avengers,

919
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: including Brie Larson, has now joined and it's like it's

920
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: almost like God level Avenger. They all follow Thanos back

921
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: to his planet where he's gonna just retire, and they

922
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: cut off his head and they kill him. But they

923
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: but that's it. They're the Glove has been destroyed. Um

924
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: gems don't work. The gems don't work anymore. And so

925
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: the shocking thing is that they kind of go back

926
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: to Earth and then we get a title that says

927
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: five years later, and so we realized. Honestly, I was

928
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: in the theater for it, and there was like a

929
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: in the theater. It was so shocking, so different than

930
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: anything that had happened in a Marvel movie before, and

931
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: so you realized the Earth has just been living with

932
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: like half of the population just gone for five years.

933
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: And the first thing we we we come to is

934
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: Captain America is doing for some reason, decided his job

935
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: is to, among other things, lead a small support group

936
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: that's happening I think in like a back room and

937
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: Penway park. I don't know why I hate that. Um.

938
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: And he is just with these people in this little,

939
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, poorly lit support group, and there's a guy

940
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: and he's talking about how his husband got snapped and

941
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: that was that. That is the one gay character in

942
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: the cinematic universe is a man is a nameless man

943
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: whose husband was snapped out of existence and is now

944
00:59:51,400 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 1: trying to Date's not like I went on Brian or whenever. Um, wow,

945
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: I had no idea. That's so fun. And Captain America

946
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: is like, that's so normal. Cool, that's the exact line.

947
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, that's so normal. Who wants to go next?

948
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: Captain America, who was born in like nineteen thirty or something,

949
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: but has suggested he really all done the issue now

950
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: Now Captain America and Bucky Barnes, arguably there's already a

951
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: sort of gay thing going on because Captain America has

952
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: a has a best friend that he loves very much,

953
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: has has sort of like a Patroclus, you know, to

954
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: his to his Achilles, and you're speaking Georgia's language and

955
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Sam's face. Um, yes, he has a

956
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: and um he uh. He dies and then comes back

957
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: as the Winter Soldier. Right, Wait, but I want to say,

958
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the nameless man that's talking about going

959
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: on a date in the support group with another man

960
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: and his husband. The I'm like sure that's played by

961
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: the director. No directors are It's like two brothers, right,

962
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: the what are their names? They did a bunch of

963
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: they used to do community. It's the Russo brothers, Oh

964
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: Joe and Anthony Russo and Anthony Russo one of them

965
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: owns a terrible restaurant. Now oh Russo plays the man

966
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: like a like a vanity project restaurant. That's like fame,

967
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: like there was a very funny sort of expose of recently.

968
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: Um by recently, I mean in the past three years

969
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: or something. But so there's actually little characters from Community

970
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: pop up, not characters little there's like a very very

971
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: brief Danny Pootty cameo in one of these movies. There's

972
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: it's like sprinkled in um. But yes, that's right, that's right.

973
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: So they did not get I mean, I guess do

974
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: we know if he is he straight? Okay, Okay, yes,

975
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: it's brothers co directing a film gay straight. That's a

976
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: really good question, I would say. I would say, well, obviously,

977
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: biological family and not chosen family is strange. Well, there's

978
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: an interesting counterpoint, which is that one of the most

979
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: famous brother directing pears both transition. Well, yes, that's like

980
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of. But then it's like,

981
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: but then I now, the Wakowski sisters to me are

982
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: like now part of it's like being sisters are working

983
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: together is a whole different story. It's like Mary Kayate

984
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: and Ashley. It's the two women that have Rhodarte. I

985
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: cannot compare them to like the Coen brothers. Um, Joe

986
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Russo is married to a woman, So you know, he

987
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: could be bisexual. We could. That's right, that he could.

988
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: He could just be gay. That's true. He could be

989
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: gay and just have a companionive marriage. It could be

990
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: who knows why. And it's so messed up with me

991
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: to assume. Right, that's right, but all about Russo? Right now?

992
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: So do you I think my final answer is that

993
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: two brothers directing is actually gay. I think it's I

994
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: think it's just it's so it's it's weird when straight

995
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: men have friends period after a certain years, Right, they

996
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: can have colleagues and they can have buddies, but to

997
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: actually have someone with whom you could like, whether the

998
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: creative process, you know, and like all of the like

999
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: intimacy that that involves, like and then to be related

1000
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: to them. It's it's like, it's not it's a little unnatural,

1001
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: is what. It's very homeschooled. Oh yeah, yeah, it's very

1002
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: homeschool Um, it's very like do we have the right

1003
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: amount of boundaries right where? Well, it's just like a

1004
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: connection that certain siblings have that I none of us

1005
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: have said, no, we're we would never say that out loud,

1006
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: obviously not talking about That's not what this is about.

1007
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: It's just about certain societal boundaries that are potentially being broken.

1008
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: Although you know, we're currently living in an era where

1009
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: two of the biggest sibling duos are breaking are not

1010
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: breaking up like you know, um because they don't like

1011
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: each other, but like one of the Waikowski sisters is

1012
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: now breaking out on her own and Joel Cohen is

1013
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: on his own directing the Macbeth Mm hmm, so something

1014
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: is shifting. Talk about Avengers Endgames. I really thought you

1015
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: were going to say we are in a society where

1016
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: maybe incest isn't so weird, Like I was, like, I

1017
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: really thought that. Yeah, and I was thrilled to hear

1018
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: what sort of evidence you're gonna pull? But um, but no,

1019
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: having directors go out on their own is exciting to

1020
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: Speaking of incest, um, can I just say that your

1021
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: microphone resembles to me so much the cactus plants that

1022
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: we're in those hymns ads years ago on the subway

1023
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: that we're like, take our e d pill and your

1024
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: dick will look like this cactus. Well this was I

1025
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 1: modeled this microphone after my dick. I had it specially ordered. Yeah,

1026
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: the casting process when that episode of Sex in the City. Yeah,

1027
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: well it's interesting to because I ordered this thinking, you know,

1028
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like I you know, I it's

1029
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of toxic masculinity. Like I wanted to look like

1030
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: my dick. Everyone's gonna be so impressed. Then people come

1031
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: and look at it and and they're like, wait, that's what

1032
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: your dick looks like. That's not okay, Like that's not

1033
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: what a dick is supposed to look like. Yeah, yeah,

1034
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, nor is a cactus, nor

1035
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: is a caust what was? You'll take our pill and

1036
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: it will never go down and no one will want

1037
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: to touch it. Oh, yeah, yeah, Um, did you know

1038
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus is an investor in Hers. Well, well that's

1039
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: Hymns and not to not to advance the trans agenda,

1040
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: but our Hymns and Hers the same company, I would assume. Yeah. Wait,

1041
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: I have a question. How is advancing the trans agenda

1042
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: pointing out that Hymns and Hers are the same company. Well,

1043
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if if, if, if Hymns and Hers

1044
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: are the same, then what's the point of the state

1045
01:06:53,560 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: of American values? Oh? I see, I see very interesting. Well,

1046
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: I do think Hymns and Hers is still like six

1047
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: normative because the Hymns products or where is them? Yeah right,

1048
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: especially coming from Miley Cyrus, who is such an what

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01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: would they sell Them's? Well, I mean I'm not the

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: first person to like point this out, but I do

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01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: think at some point hormones generally will be like less

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: regulated and then there will be like a millennial pink

1053
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: like absolutely hormone startup, so it's like mix and match

1054
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: and it's like right desaturated colors on the subway. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, So that would be to me like a

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: Them's product, right right, But then it seems like it

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01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: seems like it should be distribute like hymns should be

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: if you want. Well, I don't know, know You're right,

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: you're right, but because not everyone who takes hormones is

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: a them, right right? You don't know? I'm taking both

1061
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: wow them vibes. I know, I speaking, I take an

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01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: anti sason. I think the body does not produce hormones?

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: Really is that? Oh? Sam doesn't know that? I don't

1064
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: have any uh gonuts? Wait? Hold on, confused, I know

1065
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: all this, but okay, hell film, somebody filled me in

1066
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: us and Andrew, what is your Well, actually it was

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: more like a filling out. Um. So, um, I don't

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01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: have any balls anymore and um because they presumably were

1069
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: just tracked. Well yeah, well yeah I knew that. Yeah,

1070
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: and uh so like your body and other places produces

1071
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: sex hormones to marginal levels, but most of the sex

1072
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: hormone production, um like P is stored in the balls

1073
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: and so well you need but yeah, everyone has both

1074
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: testastra and estrogen exactly, everyone does, but in my case,

1075
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: my natural production of both is very very low because

1076
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: the main um source has been removed, and so I

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01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: have to because of course, so the thing is, estrogen

1078
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 1: makes you kind of like we be dumb and frail

1079
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: and I'm not. It's like, I know that sounds like

1080
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like doing a bit, but like, but it's true. Well,

1081
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: on the other hand, to staster and makes you murder

1082
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: your bones soft, so that like the radical vulnerability, there

1083
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: are people who are like athletes go on estrogen and

1084
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: they realize they have to change the way they do

1085
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: their exercise because they can hurt themselves. Whereas to stosterone

1086
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: makes you like angry and corny and focused and more

1087
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: likely to run for president, more likely to run for president,

1088
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: more likely to direct a Marvel movie, That's right, much

1089
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: more likely. They take it. They do tests, they run test.

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: Disney not Disney is not sucking around, that's right. Well

1091
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: I heard they give all their directors more test. Okay, okay,

1092
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: just to just to just to to argue the other

1093
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: side for for Marvel movies, like technically because Disney owns Marvel,

1094
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: which had acquired Marvel, I think after I don't know

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: if it happened before Iron Man. So there were you

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, you know, there were these Marvel movies before

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: the Marvel cinematic universe. Like it's like Spider Man, like

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01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: spider Man famously, you know, dancing in the you know,

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: um Spider Man and Daredevil. Ben Affleck is actually like,

1100
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: I know those movies way more than the Marvel ones

1101
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: because I was a kid then, so like I've seen

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: all the Spider Man's I've seen like that was like

1103
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: that was you were like a recent college grad when

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: those came out, the Toby McGuire Spider Man. Yeah, George,

1105
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: weren't you like starting your new job? I was in

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: grad school. I was in grad school and then Toby

1107
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: McGuire Spidermann. Are you working at the stock market? Yeah,

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: I was when I was so so. Disney at some

1109
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: point inquired Marvel, which technically means that all of these

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: A list male actors in the Marvel movies are Disney

1111
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: princess whoa, But it also means real Larson is a

1112
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: Disney princess, and that's scary pretty Larson. That's what they

1113
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: also did hint at her being a lesbian slash she

1114
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,440
Speaker 1: was a lesbian well she got the rob and right haircut, yeah,

1115
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: but unclear she was without romantic interest. But she in

1116
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: the air She was in the Air Force, and her

1117
01:11:55,320 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: mentor was Annette Benning, also classic example of a gay

1118
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: later in life. So it's ambiguous. Yeah, because also her

1119
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: like best friend was that other woman and it was

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01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of like are you more than? It was very

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: ambiguous on purpose. Yep, her best friend is dead and

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: her and her daughter. No, this was in one division.

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: Even George should know this. And um uh uh what

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01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: is that character's name? Now? I can't remember Monica Rambo.

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01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: Oh I remember Monica? Yeah? Wow, is now the right

1126
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: age to like, will she pulla? Because they did that

1127
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: with Captain America where he got he got iced and

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: then he had a little love thing with his love

1129
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: interests daughter. This is legal when you're royals, you know

1130
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: they have to. It's it's sort of just the way that,

1131
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the aristocracy works. George stopped. No, No,

1132
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually all for it. And I wish they

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: did more. I wish there was I think some penetrative

1134
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: sex in these in these Marvel movies between More and More,

1135
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: it's acceptable to date your best friend's daughter. Yes, can

1136
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: I say something like speaking of unstimulated penetrative sex. I

1137
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: would be much more interested in these movies if they

1138
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: had some they even had like if they even like

1139
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: I guess that's like the whole point is that they're

1140
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: for kids, but like if they if they were like

1141
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: what if there was like an unreaded version of each

1142
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: one where like there was an explicit sex scene. Okay, well, okay,

1143
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: first right, I need to think of well, rather, second,

1144
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: I need to think of what the most sex in

1145
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: the Marvel movie is. Yes, I wanted first as the

1146
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: as the Leviathan continues to sort of suck as the

1147
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: Great Bailen Whale, which is Disney starts to suck everything

1148
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: else in. Um, Deadpool has now been re acquired because

1149
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: deadpools a Marvel character, has never been reacquired and is

1150
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: going to be absorbed like the X Men themselves, into

1151
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: the Marvel Cinematic universe. And so now the prospect that

1152
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: there will be an R rated Marvel like proper m

1153
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,879
Speaker 1: C property is actually quite high. So there might actually

1154
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: be Marvel boning. Interesting, Well, I look forward to seeing

1155
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds hole. Yeah, well that's um uh something that

1156
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: you can do. Um. I'm trying to think now what

1157
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: the greatest amount of sex in a there's kissings, which look, look,

1158
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: this is a this is a gay podcast. We don't

1159
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: privilege penetration over eth That's right, I would. I actually

1160
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: have never had penetrative sex. I've only kissed and always

1161
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: for one second, Ryan Reynolds told, Yeah, I just want

1162
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: to see what a hole looks like, right, Yeah, exactly,

1163
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: and like what better person to see one? Yeah? Um,

1164
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: what's the most I'm like, like there was like a

1165
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: little love story that like didn't play out at all

1166
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: between like Scarlett Johansson and Mark Ruffalo. Well, they just

1167
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: handed Scarlett Johanson around the Avengers. It was very, very uncomfortable.

1168
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: It does seem like she got the short end of

1169
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: the stick. I realized she's very highly paid. But like,

1170
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: from what I understand, just on the periphery of all

1171
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: of this, it's like she waited, she waited so long

1172
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: to have her own movie, and then when she did,

1173
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: like she ended up suing Disney or whatever. She was

1174
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 1: canonically dead already, like right, which is stupid. Takes place

1175
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: further back in the in the kind annuity. Yeah, let's see,

1176
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: what's the There's got to be some sex like this

1177
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: iron Man imply iron Man, oh, the first Iron Man

1178
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: we see him like throw a reporter on a bed,

1179
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: kind of roll around in the dark. And it's because

1180
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: that's before, before they really knew the m C was happening,

1181
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: that might actually be it, because at that point it

1182
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: was kind of like Jon Favreau is making this sort

1183
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: of look, we're using a kind of middle aged actor

1184
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: who's like not a superhero. Like all the reasons that

1185
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: was such a successful movie, and like, really proof of

1186
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: concept for something is that it was like not it

1187
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: was like a reverend, and it was like not your

1188
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: typical you know, great power comes great responsibility thing. It

1189
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can be a dick and a

1190
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: jerk off and be a superhero without stopping being a

1191
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: dick and a jerk off. I'm sorry, who is this character?

1192
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: Tony Man? Okay, I just sorry. I googled Marvel movie

1193
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: sex scene It there's a headline that says Eternals director

1194
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: dishes on the m C used first full blown sex scene,

1195
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: which makes me think the first sex scene will be

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: in Eternals. I don't Okay, okay, okay, they're not talking.

1197
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: What is a full blown sex scene? Well, if I

1198
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: click on that, then it's over. But the next one

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: is Chloe spoke to Marvel about not censoring gay Eternals characters. Overseas.

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: All right, give me a break. I can't. It's gonna

1201
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be sad. So eternals. The Eternals are

1202
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: gods and they like, let everyone do war, and now

1203
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: they feel guilty. No, they have it. It's just that

1204
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: they have one particular enemy and they only fight that enemy. Okay, okay,

1205
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: I think is the idea. I see this. This this

1206
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: sort of like a glut problem, where like the more

1207
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: so bros you have, the less plausible it is that

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: any of them exist, and so you have to come

1209
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: up with increasingly elaborate ways to justify I'm waiting for

1210
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: like because now they're doing all the different genre movies

1211
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: inside of the m c U, and I'm waiting for

1212
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: like like the like inside Llewellen Davis, where like someone

1213
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: has a superpower but they're not. It's not about saving

1214
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: the world. It's just like playing guitar. Well they it's

1215
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, the closest that they got to this. And

1216
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: this is not technically the m c U because they

1217
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: they have decided that because of Disney plus they decided

1218
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: that the Netflix Marvel shows don't count. But Jenfica Jones

1219
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: was j which is very good because it was the world.

1220
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: It was actually just about the relationship, like like a

1221
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: bad it was about an abusive acts essentially. Okay, but

1222
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: this brings me actually to what I wanted to talk about,

1223
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: and we do need to wrap up, but I want

1224
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: to just say one thing, which is that, like, I

1225
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: think the reason why it's such a good topic to

1226
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: talk about specifically the Marvel cinematic universe rather than just

1227
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: like superheroes or comic books because I feel like something.

1228
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: I feel like the way this desperation to have everything

1229
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: connect in one universe is straight somehow, like I because

1230
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not against superheroes. And in fact, like

1231
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: I said, I have such fun memories of seeing like

1232
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: the sob mcgire Spider Man's I love all the like

1233
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: old campy Batman movies like the Sorry so you mean

1234
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: like old old like Adam West or no no, no,

1235
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: no Sorry. I mean I mean like the nineties ones,

1236
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: like the ones that we watched like on cable when

1237
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: we were growing up. Um. And I also thought like

1238
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 1: the first X Men, like the the ones from like

1239
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: two thousand one. I remember really liking like but everything,

1240
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: like the fact that they're always have to be like

1241
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: to post credit sequences and then characters introduced you have

1242
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: to remember them and they're gonna show up like two

1243
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: movies later. It's it's very the Bible. It's very the Bible.

1244
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: It's very function. It's like there's less like they're not

1245
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: having like fun with the style or like with what

1246
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: does this mean. It's more about like it's a show

1247
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: of strength that we can figure out a way to

1248
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: get all these things together and have it all makes sense.

1249
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: And it's also like it is just like not to

1250
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: make the most obvious point, but it's just like it

1251
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: is business first, like but when they do those like

1252
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: announcements where it literally looks like Steve Jobs is doing

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: like an Apple announcement, and then you see all the

1254
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: logos of the new movies coming up behind him, Like

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01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: that is dark, it's so true. And and Kevin Feigy,

1256
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how you yeah, wow, someone doesn't know

1257
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 1: how to pronounce the name all of a sudden, does

1258
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: excuse me? It looks like it looks like uh faigook,

1259
01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: which would be like fat brother um, but um who

1260
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: looks sort of like a like a business ified um.

1261
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh damn, I can't remember his name. This joke isn't

1262
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna land. No, we can cut it. Um no, uh,

1263
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: I agree that it's business t I agree that it's

1264
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: super corporate desperation. Yes, is queer. Let's just talk about

1265
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: post credit scenes, like because obviously they are they like

1266
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: are so key to what the movies are. Like the

1267
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: movies in a sense are just vehicles for post credit scenes.

1268
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: That it's like an opportunity, right, um, and mid credit

1269
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: scenes because now what they do is they have a

1270
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: mid credit scene that is like they often now have

1271
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: like a silly one and a narrative one. But like

1272
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like I just feel like I know or no,

1273
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: like queer people who are also vehicles for post credit scenes.

1274
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Andrew, that's genius. Like what does it

1275
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: mean though, Like, help me out what do you mean? Okay? Wait,

1276
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: I want to try to like I want to attempt

1277
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: to guess what you mean by that. Wait, okay, queer

1278
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: people who are vehicles for post credit scenes? Yeah, I

1279
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 1: mean I the first thing I'm getting is like, okay,

1280
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: queer people maybe who are uh who don't have that

1281
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: much substance, like it's all show and no substance, like

1282
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: a queer person has like a crazy fat has crazy

1283
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: fashion choices, crazy hair or whatever. But then what in

1284
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: that in that way, like what would the post credit

1285
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: sequence b I guess I'm sort of like, I'm like,

1286
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: show me how this could be a franchise, you know

1287
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, like like show like if it feels

1288
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: like this whole personality that you have is going somewhere. Sure,

1289
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: but it's very unclear to me where it's going. And

1290
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that there should be like a cinematic

1291
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: universe of you, you know, And so the post credit

1292
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: scene is like you trying to show me like why

1293
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: like does this have legs? Yeah, the whole thing? Does

1294
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: this actually have legs? So I see that. My other

1295
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: interpretation would be basically like, so the post credit scene

1296
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: is what connects it to the narrative, right, Like it's

1297
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: what connects to the next film whatever. If someone is

1298
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: just a post credit sequence, to me, what that means

1299
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: is like they define themselves by their relationship, by their

1300
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: place within a certain scene or a certain um or

1301
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: certain like signifiers that people are able to like see

1302
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: and interpret. But what they lack is the individuality of

1303
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: like a standalone movie. Is that that's that works for me.

1304
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: Um wow, I'm thinking, like, who do I know? That's

1305
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: just a post credit sequence? Please name names? Wait? Sam,

1306
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: should we do our final segment? I think we should. Well,

1307
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: this is such a it's a tough topic because I like,

1308
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: there's so much to talk about. I really wish we

1309
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: could like truly go forever, because I'm also like there's

1310
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: something that works so well about Marvel that's like people,

1311
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to point out like what's not working and

1312
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: be like this is corporate and psychotic, but it's like

1313
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: why do why do I like, like why what were

1314
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: such a good product? It's just it's like it is

1315
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: like high quality content. Yeah, and the I think the

1316
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: connected thing like is exhilarate. I mean remember when it

1317
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: first happened, like the first Avengers movie of like this

1318
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: has never happened that they mean except maybe the like

1319
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: old Universal Monsters thing or something you know, which is

1320
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: the like it was at once this like horrible expression

1321
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: of synergy. And also just like it was like mind blur.

1322
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: I was it was so much fun to me to

1323
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: see the characters that have been in different movies suddenly

1324
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: being the same movie. And it's like there's it just

1325
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: like it tickles the brain and the right place. And

1326
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: also I think the lived in nous of the of

1327
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: the world. The world is well put together. It's just

1328
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: like there now and you can just like go in

1329
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: and do something. And yeah, the movies have to follow

1330
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: a certain formula, but like I really like and this

1331
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: is I think maybe like a comic book thing too,

1332
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: of just like the pleasure of getting the little references

1333
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: and of being able to situate it in a larger

1334
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: in the actual like universeness of the Marvel cinematic universe. Yeah,

1335
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: it's deeply pleasurable to me. I agree, mm hmm. I mean, okay,

1336
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I have one final question. Are they military propaganda? Yeah,

1337
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: well yes, yes, I mean they sometimes they work with

1338
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: the military. Sometimes they work against the military. Tony Stark

1339
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: is an armstealer sum and stops doing that eventually, but

1340
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: like not immediately. Um, of course, any movie that the

1341
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: military appears in is propaganda because when they you guys,

1342
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they have to work with them, they

1343
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: have to work with them in the military get some

1344
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: say over how they appear, and same with like the CIA,

1345
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah again, the first Iron Man felt like

1346
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: more controversial towards the mill like that was like he

1347
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: finds his weapons in the hands of the terrorists, and

1348
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, no, what have I been doing?

1349
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: What's how does how do these systems actually work? And

1350
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: it was like questioning things roughly and and then not anymore. Yeah,

1351
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean they did the whole there's a whole sort

1352
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: of superhero registry thing about like, oh, we accidentally blew

1353
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,440
Speaker 1: up a Soviet black country, like maybe we should be regulated,

1354
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: which is why they do, which is why they have

1355
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: civil war. Interesting, and but it doesn't it doesn't come

1356
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: to any like they kind of just it all is

1357
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of water under the bridge once the you know,

1358
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: mega aliens attack. Yeah, I mean that's the fantasy of

1359
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: the like big because they're not They're not like your

1360
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: neighborhood spiding you know, in neighborhood spider Man anymore. Even

1361
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: Spider Man isn't your neighborhood Spider Man. They're like not

1362
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: like fighting crime. None of them are fighting crime. Okay, interesting,

1363
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I fully realized that, but yeah, that

1364
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: makes sense. You're not a crime fighter. Batman still fights crime,

1365
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, he's still like doing the work. Yeah, the dubious,

1366
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: dubious work. Um so like in that sense, it's like, well,

1367
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of great that they're not fighting crime, but

1368
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: it also is like the fantasy of an emergency that's

1369
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: so obliterating, that like so threatening that we can do this,

1370
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: especially the team of movies. We can We're allowed to

1371
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: do anything. It's you know, it's extremely um, very centrist movies.

1372
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: It's sort of saying like, let's not see like politics, like,

1373
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: don't forget, we're fighting aliens like nothing else. I'm not

1374
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: going to define what's a crime in this world. I'm

1375
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: going to focus on the aliens. Right, They're not a

1376
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:14,799
Speaker 1: metaphor for anything, through a metaphor for aliens. All right, um, okay,

1377
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and then we have to this is we have to

1378
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: do the final We have to okay because we've actually

1379
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is our longest episode to date.

1380
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: I think we have said I think so, yes, we've

1381
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: recorded okay five. Do you think this is the longest

1382
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: episode today? I definitely. I don't think we've ever crossed

1383
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. Wow, Well, we'll talk about

1384
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: long is my middle name? That's right, that's true. Huh,

1385
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: you're waiting to whip that one out. Oh, I whipped

1386
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: out all the time, baby I as a kid, because

1387
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: now everyone knows, you know, because it's in my name.

1388
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: The last people I think my last name is long Chew,

1389
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: which just crazy, um, because long could be a last name. Well,

1390
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: this is the thing is that it was the last

1391
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: name it. I think people think it's also Chinese and

1392
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: so together. I thought it was Chinese when I was

1393
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: a kid, I thought I was long, which is the

1394
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: Chinese word for dragon. In fact, it is long, which

1395
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: is the English word for long. And I would ask you,

1396
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 1: I would say, guess my middle name, and the hint

1397
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: would be my middle name is really long. Oh my god. Wow,

1398
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: you mus have cleaned up on the playground truly. I

1399
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: mean I could not keep up friends. Uh um Okay,

1400
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 1: Sam explained the final segment. Okay, so our final it's

1401
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 1: called shoutouts, and in it we shout out to anything

1402
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: that we enjoy and pay homage to the classics. Uh

1403
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: tenant of straight culture, which is the shout out. So

1404
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: imagine you're sort of in time Square. It's two thousand

1405
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: one and you're at t r L and you're shouting

1406
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: out to your squad back home about anything that is

1407
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: good right now? Um? And so George, do you have one? Yeah?

1408
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Sure I I I just like thought of one on

1409
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: the fly watched up listeners. I want to give a

1410
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: quick shout out to movie snacks. That's right. This night,

1411
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: when I went to see June, I got a large popcorn,

1412
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 1: Reese's Pieces and a large die of coke. Now, then,

1413
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: midway through the movie, the first I was with had

1414
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: the idea of did of just pouring the Reese's pieces

1415
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 1: into the popcorn and then eating all of them as

1416
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: just one snack? I, because I was afraid and was

1417
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: not ready to go there, said no. And I have

1418
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: been spending all day wondering what would have happened if

1419
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: we had put the Reesa's pieces into the popcorn. So

1420
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I guess my shout at is first of all for

1421
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: movies snacks, and second of all, take a damn risk

1422
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: for once in your life, whether it be in the

1423
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 1: movie theater, in life, or in love. And that's it

1424
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: for me XO XO, George. That was incredible. I'm I

1425
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: unfortunately support your decision to h be fearful. I'm glad

1426
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: that you didn't. That sounds like too much. Yeah, you

1427
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: don't have control in that sense. I mean, by that point,

1428
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: if if I had had popcorn and I had recent

1429
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: pieces and then I got back to the popcorn, So

1430
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: it's like, why not just cut out the middleman? Sure? Sure, um, okay,

1431
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I have one. I guess um. What's up everybody out

1432
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: there in the world. I want to give a huge

1433
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: shout out to all the young people in the East

1434
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 1: Village still kicking it, uh, young people in the East

1435
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: Village style. I was walking around last night after seeing

1436
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Dune and I was like, damn it felt. I felt

1437
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: like Matthew McConaughey in Um That dayson, confused because it

1438
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: was like, you're all still the same. We've just replaced

1439
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: the people that were here ten years ago with you guys.

1440
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: This is really crazy and you're all really drunk and

1441
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: being annoying. And there's something wrong with being dunk annoying.

1442
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: It's just I was sober and not annoying at the time,

1443
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: and it was very much. Um. This is a little rambling,

1444
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: but kind of like in June when they have to

1445
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,799
Speaker 1: walk with the sand to not get eaten by the worms.

1446
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: I needed to be a little bit drunkn or to

1447
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: walk with the young people in the East Village that

1448
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: continue to do whatever the hell it is that they do,

1449
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of screaming each other across the street and walk

1450
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: in weird ways and etcetera. So I love you young

1451
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: people in East Village doing whatever it is you do.

1452
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 1: Keep it young and keep it East Village style. XO

1453
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 1: x O Sam. Who Wow, it is crazy that youth

1454
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: just continues existing. It's kind of it's like, no, I

1455
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: did that already, and they're like, no, we don't care.

1456
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: And then people are still having the same discoveries. It's like, oh,

1457
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: it's so annoying actually, and then you think like, oh god,

1458
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: that was me and and the person that was ten

1459
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: years older than me. It was like, please as you

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Speaker 1: think of the first person to discover this, if onally,

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01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: they were a rapidly impending event that went and youth forever.

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Speaker 1: End game and the game, if you will, got out

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Speaker 1: to the climate crisis. Um Andrew, whenever you're ready to

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Speaker 1: go off? What's up sports fans? Uh? Coming at you

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01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: live from my bedroom, that is Andrea long Shoe. Uh

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Speaker 1: just want to give a quick shout out to my

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Speaker 1: cat for finally sleeping next to me after years of trying,

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Speaker 1: I have decided that the we've we've come to an

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Speaker 1: arrangement where I now sleep on top of my bed

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Speaker 1: under a little blanket with my legs, with my feet exposed,

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Speaker 1: and she she is willing to sleep next to me. Um.

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Speaker 1: She now comes at at at bedtime. UM just jumps

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Speaker 1: up on the bed so iggles right to the same

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Speaker 1: place every night. Um. It's just the best thing in

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Speaker 1: the world, especially when you're very, very lonely. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to uh to um, Oh, I had I had something

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Speaker 1: else I was gonna oh, shout out to um to

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Speaker 1: Jurgen's eyebrows on the great British beakof absolutely are here.

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Speaker 1: They're queer, They're going every direction, will never be home.

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Speaker 1: They have been growing since the late seventies. They are

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Speaker 1: a black forest of their own. So shout out to

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Speaker 1: that that um that uh, those those beautiful thickets, Um

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01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: that uh Sharon a schwartz fault, that is Jurgen's eyebrows

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Speaker 1: on pretty British. Too incredible, too incredible. Shoutouts well, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: this has been a pure delight. There's no one I

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01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: would have rather had, Um woman splain the marvel cinematic

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01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: universe to me. Yeah, I feel like, you know, a

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01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: lesser mode ended up coming here and just ripped them

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Speaker 1: to shreds. But you investigated you, you were thoughtful, and

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Speaker 1: I think our listeners will appreciate it. I think it's

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01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: a straighter lab signature to have to to pick a

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Speaker 1: topic that you would think we'd all drag, but then

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Speaker 1: in fact we find a way to appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's so sweet. I've had a wonderful time. I

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Speaker 1: did want to ask, did you guys have you guys

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01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: inspired to do this podcast because you both have such

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Speaker 1: straight names? Oh? Interesting? Yes, um, yep, that was it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to check. I thought so, I feel

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Speaker 1: like Sam is a bisexual bisexual name. Sam is like

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Speaker 1: also just like a woman named Santa is the hot girl.

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Speaker 1: Sam is a bisexual name. Yeah that's true, that's true.

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01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Well there's time Sam, well Sam as as we learned,

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01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: start selling uh just estrogen just regulated. Yeah, them is

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Speaker 1: just going to start selling estrogen. And also anyway them

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01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:07,839
Speaker 1: sells estrogen, them sells out. That's right. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Um. Great, Well, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'll see everyone when we're all old lesbians and we'll

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Speaker 1: do a big reunion, and we'll all have aged so gracefully. Okay,

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Speaker 1: bye bye,