1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with her radio Hi, 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Bob Guinea, Tristan Sutter name, Yeah, that's me and O G. 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: A F O G podcast coming to you live. Well, 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not live. I am. It's been a 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: crazy busy week. Thank you for being flexible. I was 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: speaking of love, which we do so often. I was 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: just in San Francisco witnessing the nuptials of my brother 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: in law, my wife's younger brother, and uh yeah, very 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: unconventional guy. So he did a very unconventional wedding on 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: a Tuesday in San fran That's crazy. Was it during 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: the day or during at night? At least? So people 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: during the day for in the afternoon, my gosh, and 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: who's gotten or it on a Tuesday, Tuesday at three o'clock. Well, 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: the original plan was that they were going to go 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: to the courthouse, and they had this courthouse they loved 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, and so I think that's why the 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: time and the day were kind of reserved. And then 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: they change their mind and decided they're going to do 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: it at the Rotunda, which is at the Palace of 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: the Fine Arts right downtown San Francisco. Very beautiful location. Yeah, 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: very pretty but definitely unconventional so it was fun. Though 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: it was fun. I mean, that's a way to get 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: your location. Do it on a Tuesday at three pm, 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: and I'll bet you save money on a location Fezza 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: and I can't imagine high demand time. But I'd like 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: to take a moment to wish them a very happy 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: life together. And I thought it was a wonderful wedding, 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: so I was proud to be there for them. That's 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: very sweet. I would also like to take a moment 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: to congratulate or I hate saying congratulations for this, but 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: to say I'm really happy for Lauren and Chris Lane, 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: who just announced that they are pregnant with their second baby. 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: I am just so happy for them. Dotton, their little 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: boy is freaking cutest. I am obsessed with him on Instagram, 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Like any time she has a story, I'm just like, 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: I love that kid. I want to meet him some 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: day in person, and just pleasing me so cute. Um 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: she does have she she did talk about how she 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with something. I think it was called, uh 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: something chord insertion minor chord insertion. I can't remember what 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: it's called, but it's basically where I guess the cord 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: inserts into the placenta close to the uterine wall or 43 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: or near the wall instead of in the center of 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: the placenta, so it could potentially mean that the baby 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: won't get as many nutrients as it should. So for 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: another reason, marginal umbilical cord insertion. Thank you. Anyway, it 47 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: seems a little scary, um, I mean, when you're diagnosed 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: with anything, when you're pregnant. I know I was diagnosed 49 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: with tons of stuff. It is terrifying. At least she's 50 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: had one, so she knows that all can go well, 51 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully it does. I'm sending her my love my prayers, 52 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: um that this this pregnancy is just as healthy or 53 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: healthier for Dutton's and they get to welcome a sweet 54 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: little baby. Oh, I'm not going to see a boy 55 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: or girl. Yeah, yeah, I hope so too. I don't 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: know her personally, she seems lovely and then, um, I've 57 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: got friends who are mutual friends with Chris, so I 58 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: feel like I know them even though I don't. But man, 59 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I sure hope, I sure hope it all goes well, 60 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: and you know, everything comes through in wonderful fashion for 61 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah, agreed. I mean another Bachelor Baby, 62 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: even though they didn't meet really through the Bachelor and 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't from the Bachelor. She is, And of course 64 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: everybody that is part of the show was part of 65 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. And I'm really excited for another Bachelor Baby, 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: I know, speaking of people who are part of the 67 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: show that are part of Bachelor Nation. A little bit 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: later to we're going to be joined by a very 69 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: special guest who was a huge pivotal person in both 70 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: of our experiences on both The Bachelorette and The Bachelor. Well, 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: you're the Bachelor, then the Bachelotte, and then me the Bachelorte, 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: then the Bachelor, and um, you're very excited to have 73 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: him on. The producer for the show named Jason Carbone, 74 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: who I like to call him Carbone and arcolect carbon 75 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: and narcoleptokok is what I call him. Please. Yes, I'll 76 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: explain it when he's here, but I will tell you 77 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: it has to do with sleeping, uh in weird places, 78 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: and so yeah, because that's what you have to do 79 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: as a producer. You got to catch a cat time. 80 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, right, how else you gonna never get 81 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: any rest. I mean, honestly, most of the time, they 82 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: are on set all hours of the night too. They 83 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: don't all the time get to go home, especially the 84 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: people who are with the lead, because the lead is 85 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: always as we both know, you don't get a lot 86 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: of sleep. You don't we would come back. I'll never 87 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: forget when I when I really started realizing, because you know, 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: I think you know, the process in and of itself 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: can make you a little a little self absorbed, right, 90 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: because everything is sort of around you. And and I 91 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: remember I was complaining about being tired or something, and 92 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I remember Carbone and and Saliencelsano both are like, bro um, 93 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: We're with you on everything. And when you actually do 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: go to sleep, we're over at the house with the 95 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: ladies filming them. I'm like, oh my god, or editing 96 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: or talking to the you know, execs or whatever. Yeah, 97 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: makes you realize you can't really complain in those moments 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: because you know you're you're at least getting to have 99 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: fun and do fun things, and so are they. But 100 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a definitely experience. But what I 101 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: loved and I'm sure probably had a similar experience to me, 102 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: and this one is several of the producers, even though 103 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: technically they're not supposed to became your friends and became 104 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: people that you you know, and and Jason was definitely 105 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: one of those people. I feel like he was. He 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: was a friend of both of us and still is 107 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: to this day. And um, so you know, I can't 108 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: wait to talk with him when we have that opportunity. 109 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: And I have to say that we were going to 110 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: have Ashley Eden's on, but she's sick so she couldn't 111 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: show up. So Ashley, if you're listening, we really wish 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: you could have been here today, and hopefully we'll have 113 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: her on um in an upcoming show. I would love. 114 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: We haven't brought this up yet, but we need to 115 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: have our spouses on this show. Oh yeah, oh yeah. 116 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Danyan will not do it, probably without you calling her 117 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: and telling her she has to do it. If I say, okay, baby, 118 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: let's go on the show, she'll be like, now, if 119 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: you call, she'll probably do it. So we'll see what happens. 120 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Although although you saw what happens when our kids are 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: left unattended. Oh um, you know you saw Grayson come 122 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: in here and ramshackle this place, so I'm not sure 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: that's a good idea we might have top we should have. Um, 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure Sugarman would pay for a babysitter. You know what, 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I'll call her, I'll get I'll get Sugarman on the line. 126 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Sure I need a nanny. I want to have my 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: wife on the episode. Yeah, let's bring him in. I'm excited. 128 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Jason Carbone is coming, my boy, ingredients and salutations, Mr Guinea. 129 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: I unfortunately don't have a guinea at the ready. Oh 130 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: now see that's that's problematic because I always do. My 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: friend there you go always does. Welcome to the show, 132 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the almost famous o G Podcast starring yours truly tristerren 133 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Nay Sutter or the Sutter and a Rent and uh 134 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Me TV's Bob Getting Now, Jason, I want to have 135 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: you help me with this real quickly, before we get 136 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: into why we both mutually love you. I told Trista 137 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: that when when you and I were spending so much 138 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: time together two seasons in a row there that you 139 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: you came under the name of Jason Carbona Narcoleptico. Yes, indeed, 140 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: And she's like, you need to explain that. I said, no, No, 141 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna wait, We're gonna hold off on this until 142 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: Jason's here. Um, so one of you know how Trista 143 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: every season they do the I'm not sure they don't 144 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: do the bloopers anymore really, but they also don't do 145 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: they don't do that pre interview that you did to 146 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: sit down for where the event in question occurred. Yes, 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: that's a valid point. So we did, like the pre 148 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: interview with with Harrison, Yes, yeah, and so you know this, 149 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: this did show up in my blooper reel at the 150 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: end of the season because Jason, you know, like we 151 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: were just talking about, you know, if if if one 152 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: of the leads would ever complain about how tired they 153 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: must be, all they really had to do was put 154 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: themselves in your body for the for the wet uh 155 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: six weeks now eight twelve weeks, whatever they do. Um, 156 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: because not only were you with us at all times 157 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: and everything we were doing, but then you were also editing, 158 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: talking to the you know, the girls at the mansion, uh, 159 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, dealing with whoever whoever, and so the people 160 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: that were really probably even more exhausted than than us, 161 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: had to be you the producers. Right, Well, I look 162 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: at it the same way I kind of look at 163 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: my then tolerance to booze. It was an acquired skill set, right, 164 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: So like over time, you know, like when I was younger, 165 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: uh and doing this show, I could drink far more 166 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: than I can drink today. Conversionly, it took a while 167 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: to get to that level of tolerance. And in the 168 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: same way, it took a little while to get to 169 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, you were at that point, Bob, I want 170 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: to say season or yes, yes, right, so you have 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: like the fourth run of this So at that point 172 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: in time, I had had my track shoes. I've been 173 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: to the Nike factory and they were of your game. Yes, 174 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: pretty close to it. So free interview And in the 175 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: middle of the interview, like Chris asks me a pressing question, 176 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking like is there any truly pressing questions? 177 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: One I remember pontificating and sitting there thinking to myself 178 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: And while I paused, I hear no ye and Harrison 179 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: and I are both looking at each other here again, 180 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and we're like, what is going on? Is there a 181 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: bear on the loose? Like where are we? I mean, 182 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: we are in Malibul. You never know what could happen. 183 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden we realize Jason he 184 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: had laid down behind the couch or whatever with you know, 185 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: his headset on and is is it all that stuff? 186 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: And he dozed off. He needed to catch a cat 187 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: nap before that evening's festivities and uh, and so that 188 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: was there. That was the onset of Jason carbon and NARCOLEPTICOC. 189 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: So just to put a finishing button on this, I 190 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: have subsequently been diagnosed with sleep atnia and I now 191 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: sleep with a c PAP machine. So not only was 192 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: I working really hard, but I was dying several times 193 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: a night, every night. Uh, in my sleep. Yeah, because 194 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: you stopped breathing with sleep atnia. Oh my gosh. So 195 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: now I thought machine that I travel with, and I 196 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: literally I feel like I did when I was sixteen again, 197 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: where like sleeping very well. And you know, as I 198 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: refer to that machine now was the life extender. Yeah, 199 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: well you look younger, you look at me. Yep. I 200 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: got a wife who cooks like she's a shift So 201 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I bet she's got the good stuff. She's legit. A 202 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: few family dinners there at the Carbone household, and I 203 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: will say they were always delicious. And of course you're 204 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: a proud father. Proudly I mean, so let's ask you this. 205 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: When you came off the show, and I know, I 206 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: know you. You came off, you went off and started 207 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: your own production company and immediately jumped into doing a 208 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: whole bunch of different things Life of Ryan, a bunch 209 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: of different things of that nature. Um, were you like 210 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: finally at that point, like, oh my god, I'm off 211 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: the hamster wheel, like I I can get some sleep. 212 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Or was it just did that just shoot you into 213 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: the next level? It's just a different hamster wheel, Bob. Yeah, 214 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: it's like you know, it's it's that realization you have 215 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: when you set a goal for yourself and you climbed 216 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain and you get there 217 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: and you're just like, man, I'm at the top of 218 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: the mountain, and when you start to look around, you 219 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: realize there's thousands of other peaks that you're not at 220 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: the top of the mountain. Just so, it's it's as 221 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: long as you want to have a career and as 222 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: long as you want to continue to be paid to 223 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: be creative, you're constantly you're you're constantly you know. It's 224 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: it's the thing that nobody realizes is that you know, 225 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: we're all independent contractors, right, like we all are looking 226 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: for our next gig. So when I went to work 227 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: for Mike on The Bachelor, he offered me something that 228 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't had in a long time, and that was security. Right. 229 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: He was just like, here's a two year contract. Um. 230 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: At that point in time, he had just sold the 231 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: idea of The Bachelor, and he had just showed the 232 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: idea of a show called High School Reunion, and he 233 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: was the first two shows that I'm going to make. 234 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: And you know, he said directly to me, he said, 235 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I can come up with these ideas and I can 236 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: be crazier than the next guy. I need somebody to 237 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: make the stuff. And you know that's what he was. Hey. 238 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: So I would love to know, um, if you remember 239 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: being part of either of our our interview like interviews, 240 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, like when we were audition interviews. Were you there? 241 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Were you in the room with both of us? Okay? 242 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: Can you tell us? Like I I remember only a little, 243 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, little bits and pieces, but I love like 244 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: your perspective from those those moments. So, Trista for yours, 245 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: you were the first cast that we saw in mass 246 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: right because on your season, it was the very first 247 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: time we were casting bachelorettes and so, but were you 248 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: there for Bachelor too? Were you there for Bachelor for both, 249 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: but it was the first time we were casting bachelorettes 250 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: for our Bachelor, right, we were casting twenty women to 251 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: meet Alex Michelle so um when we did it at 252 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: the Universe at Universal in one of the hotels that 253 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: I want to say, the Hilton or the Sheraton, and 254 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: we had a conference room and we were shooting it 255 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: and you guys thought we were shooting it for tape 256 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: to be on the show, but we were also be 257 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: mean all of that into another big room where a 258 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: bunch of executives and ABC folks were all sitting there 259 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: with food and drink and hanging out and imagining it 260 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: like it's a TV show and everyone's making your notes. 261 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So it's, uh, you know, the thing that 262 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: you have to remember for your first season, Tristo, when 263 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: you were you were competing with twenty four other women 264 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: for Alex's affection. We needed to prove the thesis of 265 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: the show and proved that it was a legitimate way 266 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: to find romance. Like now we all take it for granted, 267 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: but you know, back then we had to prove to 268 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: the audience that this wasn't Alart right, and so the 269 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: part of that was Alex had degrees from Stanford and Harvard. 270 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: He was really smart, and that alone validated it from 271 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: his perspective. And conversely, if you look at that group 272 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: of ladies compared to where they are today, we had doctors, lawyers, 273 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: we had legit people, because again, we were trying to 274 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: prove a theory. We were trying to prove invalidate that 275 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: this wasn't just a television show, but a legitimate way 276 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: a man and woman could meet and fall in love. 277 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: And in order to do that, we needed a higher 278 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: caliber of contestants than I believe they go after the day. Yeah, 279 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Um, so, do you remember anything specific about 280 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: anything that we said or anything we did that stood 281 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: out that everyone we were laughing at at us about 282 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: you were both slam dunks. Let's be honest, Trista. You 283 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: were a nurse working with physicals okay, all good, working 284 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: with children while also sidelining as a Miami Heat cheerleader. 285 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Check check check check check check check checked. Yeah, no doubt. 286 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: And you're you're incredibly smart, very articulate, beautiful, studyingly beautiful 287 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: like you. You literally checked everything we were looking for, 288 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: and in the room Lisa and I were like tough 289 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: for yeah number one. No, I'm just kidding. That's what 290 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: I always say, Like top four about Ryan when everyone's 291 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: like did you meet did you fall in love with him? 292 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: The first night? And I'm like, he was top four. 293 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: He was one of my top four, you know, he 294 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: was favorite, early favorite, Yeah, early favorite. World World really 295 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: kind of put put him up a notch yea, yeah, yeah, 296 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: I think what I mean the playfulness, but also the 297 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: poem that ended up being the poem that he changed 298 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: into a song and it was our first dance. Um, 299 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: we had like that really awkward kiss. Oh and speaking 300 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: of awkward, okay, I have to pere moment Jamie blythe 301 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: what what no? No no? Not that one said the 302 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: word awkward, sorry was triggered awkward Jamie Blythe what no 303 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: no awkward was in Seattle. Oh yeah, here we go, 304 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: he knows. So in Seattle we get the note that 305 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: that you know we can we can forego or into 306 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: individual rooms to spend the night stayed together in the 307 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: fantasy suite. Sweet yes yours like check please didn at 308 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: all so Ryan was like check please, and he's like 309 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: paying the guy to speed to get to the hotel. 310 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: We get there, we look at the hotel and all 311 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: of its its beauty, and we proceed to hang out 312 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: on the couch, hang out meaning make out on the 313 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: couch as Jason, I feel like you were maybe in 314 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: front of us. No, it was at the W Hotel. 315 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: It was at the W. You had part of the 316 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: date on a house post after this exactly. That was 317 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: earlier that day, and that was hot and steamy too. 318 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: That this particular part was like yeah, for sure about 319 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: it couldn't have been better than with Greg though at 320 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: his apartment that was pretty cool. But no, so we're 321 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: making out and Jason is sitting like, I know, twenty 322 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: feet away something like that, and it had been how 323 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: long do you think it was? I think it was 324 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: probably like two hours? Stop yourself, you have no sense 325 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: of time. Was not a two hour makeout session, not 326 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: even but but but but you know what, you were 327 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: lost in the moment triest and had no meaning. Yeah 328 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: until we were like, dude, can you please leave because 329 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: we really just want to have this fantasy suite to 330 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: ourselves Like that was always awkward and even in Guinea's season, 331 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: like we changed that, we changed it up a little 332 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: bit because we had, uh, there's a great shot that 333 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: never saw the light of day. But in one of 334 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Bob's fantasy suites, we had a camera set up in 335 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: the corner that was on record, and Bob and I 336 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: forget who it was, went into the bedroom and they 337 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: were canoe to leading. All of a sudden, Bobs like, 338 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: what's that red light over there? And you put me 339 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: on high alert. He made a bee line for it, 340 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, we got to use that 341 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: bee line of Bob going and turning off the camera 342 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: because that was that was a good shot, right It 343 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: was a different way of shutting the door and putting 344 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: the tag on it. They would use that nowadays. Right 345 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: like then it was like, no, we can't. You know, yeah, definitely. 346 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: Well I remember I remember being with Jason and so 347 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: many circumstances, and always the hard part was, you know, 348 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: because we had become true friends. It's like I I'd 349 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: looked to you for advice on things, and when things 350 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: would be froggy and weird, I'd be like, and you know, 351 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: you forget you're on camera and you're supposed to be, 352 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, just laboring over a decision, and I'm just 353 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: like Carbone, man, what do you think. I don't even know. 354 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just lost right now. And He's like, 355 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: look over there, you like, you know, I'm here, Yeah, 356 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: not not in the room here, Yeah, totally. That is 357 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: so true. You want to have those conversations with these people, 358 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: including you, Sally Anne, Lise Levinson, whomever was participating, Ashley 359 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: Eden's who was supposed to be on the call today 360 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: but she's sick so she can't be here. But I 361 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: know I love Ashley, um. But you know, whoever was there, 362 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to have a conversation. And it is a 363 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: really kind of weird, hard situation that the leads have 364 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: to be put in because you have to act like 365 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: no one is around and you get used to it, 366 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: but it is true. It's like, you know, we're around 367 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: you guys. Um, you know when we're sleeping and you're not, 368 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: or you're sleeping and we're not sleeping. Now there's not 369 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that, not a lot. I think it's 370 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: interesting because like with both of you, I developed a 371 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: relationship past the television show. Right, this is now, This 372 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: is now over a decade's relationship, right, And I was 373 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: at your wedding, Trista, and we're for Bob you as 374 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: you've gone from NBC to this or that, like we're 375 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: always in constant contact. And I think that, you know, 376 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: I can't say that about all of the seasons I did, right, 377 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: But I would also say that on both of your seasons, like, 378 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: I think the producers made time off camera to make 379 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: sure that you were supported and you felt that stuff 380 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: was going on that was sometimes larger than the show, 381 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: and we understood that, and there were times that the 382 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: show needed to take a back seat to what you 383 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: guys were dealing with. And you know, I think that, um, 384 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, I dare say there was a bit of 385 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: a heart there at the time, you know where I 386 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: think now it's a little less annesty and a little 387 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: more reality TV. I agree. Yeah. We we've actually had 388 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: that discussion on this show quite a bit where it's 389 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: been like, you know, how things changed over the years, 390 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: and the comedy of it is it's it's it's literally 391 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: night and day. I mean, the show is called the 392 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: same thing, but when it really comes down to it, 393 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, for for trista season or for 394 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: mine really too for that matter. I mean, especially on 395 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Trista season of The Bachelrette, we had no idea what 396 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: you're getting into. Right. It was the first time she 397 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: was on, the first time the show had ever been taped, 398 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, she's doing the first 399 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: version of the female lead, and so it now it's 400 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: a lot like I'll just be really candid there, like 401 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: she was the torch bearer, and she was the torch 402 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: bearer on a television show that very easily could have 403 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: feared into slut shaming, and h we we worked really 404 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: hard for that not to happen. But you know, I 405 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: don't want to speak out of school, but but I 406 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: recall several instances where it was abundantly clear to me 407 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: that there was no need to shoot anything, but there 408 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: was a need to spend some time with Trista to 409 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: make sure that, um, that everything was a okay. But 410 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: more importantly, like when you get on that wheel and 411 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: it gets going, there are times where my job is 412 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that the star of the show can't keep 413 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: that wheel going and we need to either help them 414 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: and run next to them or oftentimes literally pick them 415 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: up get off the hamster wheel and say we're taking 416 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: a break and when we're we're good, we'll get back 417 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: on that hamster wheel. But it's not until you're good. 418 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: And I think that I can recall two instances off 419 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: the top of my head where Tristan needed that time 420 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: and it was just like I get it, Like we're asking. 421 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize just what is required when 422 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: you are the lead on this television show. You can 423 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: have an idea, but even talk to people that are 424 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: on the show now, when they get into that role, 425 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: they will still tell you you'd think you know, but 426 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: you don't know. Yeah, you know, you can't know until 427 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: you're really in that position. Do do you recall those 428 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: two instances? What? Because of course I'm on the wheel, 429 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: so all I'm thinking about is the wheel and the 430 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: guys and my emotions and trying to keep it all 431 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: straight in my head. And um, like, I think it's 432 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: really interesting to talk to you from your perspective, like 433 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: you're watching us go through this knowing what the what 434 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: the premises, what we're hoping for at the end, and 435 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: you see us actually going through all of these emotions, 436 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: but from a distance, like you can't always be in 437 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: it with us or talk to us about it while 438 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: it's happening. So I'd love to hear your perspective, like 439 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: what were those moments? Um? Well, for me, just real 440 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: quick and I'll talk to those moments. I think that, Um, 441 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: while I didn't study psychology in college, this show was 442 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful um place to learn about the human condition. Sure, 443 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the reason that reasons that 444 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: people loved watching it in the beginning at least, you know, 445 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: ye for me, I was able, you know you you 446 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: know I did between and Bachelor. I think I did 447 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: eight seasons of the show, right. So, like anything, when 448 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: you turn around and you look backwards, you begin to 449 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: see things that line up, and so you're beginning to 450 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: see patterns emerge, and you're beginning to see, oh, when 451 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: this happens, that happens, and so you begin to see 452 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: cause and effect emotionally in a different way. And so 453 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: it got to the point at the end where you're 454 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: almost able to predict what's going to happen, and oftentimes 455 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: altered circumstances, so something different happens because you know, if 456 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: you do there, you go so um, but to yours, 457 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: like one I'll be really honest. One was when uh, 458 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: we were shooting a video because if you remember that season, 459 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: you made videos that you sent to us for the 460 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: faith right, and they popped in a little tape into 461 00:28:46,640 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: the VCR. We had made a custom Chargers jersey into 462 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: a dress, and you know those jerseys have a lot 463 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: of holes in them, and so when Trista put it on, 464 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: there was a moment where Trista wasn't necessarily comfortable wearing 465 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: the outfit, right, So there was a moment where I said, Trista, 466 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: I totally get it. You need to be comfortable. Why 467 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: don't you go upstairs take a look at yourself in 468 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: the mirror. If you're not comfortable, will change something. We'll 469 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: do this. We'll do that knowing full well that life 470 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: is the biggest Charger fan in the world. I'm gonna 471 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: get fired, But I have to say that Trista is 472 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: good to go, because this is early on and we're 473 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: still in group dates. You know, we're early in the show, 474 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: and I don't want to disappoint Trista at all, let 475 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: alone in the first week of shooting. Yeah, So that 476 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: was one other, and I know Bob remembers that moment. 477 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: I remember him being because that that No, that wasn't 478 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: the serial date. That was the Chargers date because I 479 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: was wearing the Chargers jersey. I remember you in the jersey. 480 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: I remember the whole video. I remember standing there talking 481 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: to a little child up and it was a reveal 482 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: and on my legs. Yeah, it was crazy in the house. 483 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Exactly what you anticipated, you know it was. It was 484 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: a big moment in the house and all those guys 485 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: were thrilled to be going to a Chargers game. Yeah, 486 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: it was really fun. I still have my jersey from 487 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: oh gosh, what was the player's name? And I threw 488 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: past a dog freaking flutie like dog flutie. It was awesome, 489 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: and met Drew Brees that's when he was with the Chargers. 490 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Lee LT that wasn't LT came out and gave me 491 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: a jersey. Yeah, that was a really fun date. Um anyway, Okay, 492 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: enough about me. I don't want to talk about me. 493 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: I want to know if you had the opportunity to 494 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: work on the show, with all of the changes that 495 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: have happened to date, would you, like we always get 496 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the question, would you be on the show if you 497 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: knew everything about the Bachelor to date? Would you be 498 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: on it? Now? So the same goes for you, would 499 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: you would you do the show? Would you do Paradise 500 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: or not Paradise? Bachelor in Paradise? Would you do? Um? 501 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: You know, it was a different time when we did 502 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: the show, right. It was literally like the Beatles were 503 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: coming to town. When we rolled. It was like doors 504 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: opened up. Things that you didn't anticipate even being possible 505 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: were suddenly possible. And that's not to say that those 506 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: things don't happen on today's show, but I believe then 507 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: there was a level of uh intimacy amongst everybody where 508 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: we were all in this together. It was that kind 509 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: of sense, and so there was a familial aspect to 510 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: it that I thought was really important. But I think 511 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the most important thing, and I think this is the 512 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: biggest difference between then and now, is we really were 513 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: doing a Disney show. We were doing Cinderella. Right. It 514 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: was like the you're going to the ball, you have 515 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: a chance to fall in love with the prince. It's 516 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: a ticking clock toick to kick, and we're all the 517 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: mice and the you know, you know, fairy Godmother's making 518 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: magic happen. Behind the scenes, so it really was Cinderella. 519 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: I think that they've gone away from that, and I 520 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's quite the fantasy that it once was. 521 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: I think it is now much more just a really 522 00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: high end kind of uh you know love. Yeah, I 523 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: don't disagree with that. I mean, I think I think 524 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. The fantasy was the goal, right, that 525 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: was the end game when we were on the show. 526 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: And now it's like, you know, you've got people coming 527 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: in as characters ahead of time. They're riding in on 528 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: horses or up states really important and this is huge, 529 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: and this and this and this, to me is the 530 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: greatest difference social media. When you guys did the show, 531 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: no one came on the show thinking they were going 532 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: to become an influencer, thinking that they were going to 533 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: get followers, or it could turn their appearance into a 534 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: lifestyle or even a job. Right, Like, these were things 535 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: that were You did the show, and you then went 536 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: back to your normal life. That's not happening anymore. So 537 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: I think that you just starting there, you already have 538 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: a level of artifice because you can go on the 539 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: show now thinking okay, well if I come in second place, 540 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: I could potentially be the person who stars in the 541 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: next show, and if by making ass myself or on 542 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: a star but don't make it very far, I can 543 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: go on Bachelor in Paradise and if I don't do 544 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: any of that, some show on we TV, you'll have 545 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: me for something. All deference to your parents on we Trista, 546 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: they were very nice. I love everybody, but but but 547 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. It's just like there's 548 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: an ecosystem that now exists for all of these people 549 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: who appear on these shows that never happened before. That's 550 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: so true. People living out of it now, like they 551 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: go on and it's like, you know, four or five, 552 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: six times around, it's like, okay, you know, BLUs, there 553 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: was a lot. There was a lot of unpredictability too. 554 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: I should I shouldn't say that. Should I have to 555 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: say there's a lot more like predictability. I should say 556 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: to what we did it? And then all of a sudden, 557 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: it's like now people randomly show up when they've been 558 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: kicked off three weeks later, and then you show up 559 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: on a date and it's like, whatever manufactures the drama? 560 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: You know I started that? Actually one did? Yeah, Plece 561 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Pwicce came to me after the Rose, after the um, 562 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: after hometown I think it was just before exotic. So 563 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: what is that there's four hometown dates? Back then you 564 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: have four hometowns and then you went to exotics, right, 565 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: So the most like our first female villain, Trish, she 566 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: was wonderful lady, so touched with her to this day. 567 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, she got kicked out on after hometown dates 568 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: and Mike was just like, she's the best thing about 569 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: this show. You gotta figure out a way to get 570 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: her on on exotics. And I was like, huh, you 571 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: wanted to show up on an exotic and he was like, 572 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: figure it out. So uh. At that point in time, 573 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: I really wasn't doing those exit interviews anymore. But I 574 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 1: got into the back of the limo and an hour 575 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: later she was convinced that she needed to go to 576 00:35:51,760 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: Washington and speak her mind. I think that's really a 577 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: common thing. You need to speak your mind because in 578 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: this show, and it happened to me on The Bachelor, 579 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: which I don't know that we've talked about on this 580 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: podcast yet, but and I don't know if you were 581 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: involved in the conversation. It was Mike and Lisa, to 582 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: my knowledge, I'm sure you were involved somehow, Carbone. But um, 583 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: when when Alex said goodbye to me the next day, 584 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, I was like, dude, the hell 585 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: brought Alex to you? No, he didn't come to me, 586 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: we just got on the phone. No, there was there 587 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: was a point there. There was a point in time 588 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: where like, well, maybe there's so many things that are 589 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: amalgamations at this point in right seasons. It's like, I'm sure. 590 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: But so I was like, you know, you finished, and 591 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: the guy is like, the guy's like okay, you're not 592 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: the one. You're like, oh, okay, goodbye, and you have 593 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: nothing else to say, Like it was, it was really 594 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 1: really awkward. And so I reached out and I said 595 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: I need to talk to him. I'm sorry, but I 596 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: need to talk to him. And they godd Lisa and 597 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Mike were like, okay, you can talk to him, but 598 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: nothing is going to happen, because you guys are not 599 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: meant to be like in their minds, you know. Um, 600 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: so we're not going to let you guys meet. We're 601 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: just going to have a conversation that is recorded in 602 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: case anything does happen. And and they like, wouldn't let me, 603 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: because thank god they didn't, because if they hadn't, maybe 604 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: things would be different. Yeah, I know it's true. So 605 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: I think that, Um, it is really interesting at the end. 606 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: Um and I do think that there is a way 607 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: to bring I don't know, maybe that's a change that 608 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: they can make in the future, but some kind of closure. 609 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's too many people for closure, so 610 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: I guess you can. I don't think anyone's ever gonna 611 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: too many people to get closure. But you know what 612 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: I quickly realized after that first season and see so 613 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: many people walk away with regret. Um was my speech, 614 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: and the limos from that point forward involved the three 615 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: words that I think are the key to success on 616 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Could have, should have? Would? Yeah, what was 617 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: you done differently now that you're in the limo? Right? Yeah, 618 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: Like I get in the limo and I would say, guys, 619 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: don't walk away from this show with these three words 620 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: ringing in your head. Could would, Yeah, you guys came here, 621 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: you packed a lot of dresses into a lot of suitcases, 622 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: you got all balled up, give it your best shot. 623 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: Don't go in there and suddenly you get overwhelmed by 624 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: the cameras because if you do odds are you ain't 625 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: making out of making it out of tonight? Yeah, yeah, 626 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean you really have to have that 627 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: mentality when you're on the show because if you don't 628 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: go for it, then you're never going to let your 629 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: walls down, You're never going to fall in love. Because 630 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: it's such a short period time, especially it was for 631 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: us because we were only six weeks and yeah, we were, 632 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: we were that was quick. That was just relentless. Oh 633 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: my gosh. I was talking about in particular, I was 634 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: talking about the one night with someone not too long 635 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: ago actually, where we went on a date to Vegas. 636 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 1: On the way back from Vegas, we land and they're like, okay, Bob, 637 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: we've we've got to do your I T M S. 638 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: You know, we gotta get you through this. We get 639 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: through it. It's like four thirty in the morning and 640 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: Carbones like, all right, jump in the shower, we're picking 641 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: you up at five. You go on a hot air 642 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: balloon date. But we gotta catch we gotta catch as 643 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: the sun's coming up, baby, so let's go. Let's And 644 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm like okay, And so you know, I get in 645 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: there and and it was just like this, but you 646 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: were there too, so it's like, you know, I really 647 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: couldn't sit there and bitch and complain about being exhausted, 648 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: because it's like they picked me up and it's me 649 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: carbone again. You know, here we go. I felt I 650 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: was dating Jason. Well, that was my role to a 651 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: certain degree, was like I was both of yours kind 652 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: of like shepherd for lack of a better term, where 653 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: I was here to make sure that we were up 654 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: in the morning and that you had something in you 655 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: so we could start the day. If you needed something 656 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: on the way to wherever we were going, Let's take 657 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: care of that. Uh. You know, both of you at 658 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: times would whisper in my wear, make sure I'm not 659 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: having to spend it an inordinate amount of time. What's 660 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: so and so? And you know we were unless I 661 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: look back at you and I said, I'm sorry, it's 662 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: too good a TV show, Bob. You need to talk 663 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: to her. You know, it's funny. I was. It's just 664 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: I was talking earlier and I just kind of I didn't. 665 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything, but I was remembering one time 666 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: when you swooped in and saved me. Actually, and we 667 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: won't name any names, but I remember saying literally, I'm like, 668 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm excuse myself and go to the bathroom. 669 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: And I go into the bathroom and knowing that, I 670 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: Mike that I don't unpack my because I didn't have 671 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom and I'm washing my hands, 672 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: I like, guys, I need to get the hell out 673 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: of here, and we need to go. We just need 674 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: to go. I uh And and I came walking back 675 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: out and I got one of these. I'm like, okay, 676 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: so I sit back down, I have, you know, cheers. Guys, 677 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: what a lovely pleasure me you all, It's really time 678 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: we should probably go. But it was like I was, 679 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: I literally was in the bathroom going, guys, I can't 680 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: I can't do it. Oss. I remember that? Remember that? Well, Jason? 681 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: One last question. Do you remember when um Ryan couldn't 682 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: be found on the final were you the one searching 683 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: for him? So let's talk a little Let's unpack this 684 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: a little bit because there is so much here. Okay, 685 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: So you're talking about the Bachelor and the Bachelorette parties 686 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: that took place on St. Martin in the correct no, 687 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the very 688 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: last well that also was that we didn't know where 689 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 1: Ryan was. Sorry, I kind of I led you down 690 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: another road, but when he couldn't be found for the 691 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: final Rows ceremony, I think what happened is St. Martin 692 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: so overshadowed that because of so many other confluence of 693 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: events that were hurrying on that island, Like like, there 694 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: was so much going on there, and your parents were there, 695 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: and there was a level of everyone everyone was there 696 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: and and if you remember correctly, I got viral vertigo 697 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: while I was there stand and literally like they at 698 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: one point they were like, we don't know what's wrong 699 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: with him. We might need to meta back him out 700 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: of here. Totally remember that I forgot like and as 701 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 1: this is all going on, I like, I am going 702 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: from post to post, holding onto things, trying to direct 703 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: and now trying to find Ryan. And then after that day, 704 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: literally I was confined, confined to a bed until they 705 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: flew me out, And it took me a week after 706 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: I got home for me to have some I can't 707 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: even imagine the worst experience. It was one of those 708 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: experience is where I remember, specifically on the car ride 709 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: home from the airport, every like quarter of a mile, 710 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: I said to the driver, you gotta pull over a well. 711 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean one of those lovely gifts that the bachelor 712 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: gave to you was like the host and it was 713 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: it was insanity, that's right. And then in St. Martin 714 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: was was like the best of times and the worst 715 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: of Yes, yeah, true story. I do remember the casino 716 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: there too. I remember going to the casino there and 717 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: gambling and having a great time. And you guys must 718 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: have done that on your thing, because we went to 719 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: this bar and we had dinner, and then the girls 720 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: gave me like a Dare list or whatever that I 721 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: had to check off the boxes and like take a 722 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: picture with the We also had a very early kind 723 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: of harbinger of things to come on the internet with 724 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: shopbop be down there, and if you remember Trista, you 725 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: and all of your bridesmaids got to like have your 726 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: run of Shop Pop. They basically set up a little 727 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: boutique there and you and your friends went crazy at 728 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: Shop Bop before Shop Bop was appointed by Amazons. I 729 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, I remember we got those jelly 730 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: purses Amazon. You put them on the map. You're welcome. Yeah, no, 731 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, it's there's been books written about 732 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: the show, but the reality is is that there's no 733 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing yet that really kind of represents what it 734 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: is we all shared and what it is we you know, 735 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: like in all candor, you were both trailblazers, right you, Tristan, 736 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: particularly you, you were, uh, you were doing things that 737 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: it took a lot of courage to do, and so 738 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: I commend you for that. I certainly wouldn't want my 739 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: daughter doing those things at the age you were when 740 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: you were on our show. So I think my parents 741 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: probably that uh, you know, it speaks I'll think a 742 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: lot to the way you were raised. Yeah, yeah, I 743 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 1: think about it. She went on the first show, then 744 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: she's the first female lead, then they televised her wedding. 745 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of things going on there. 746 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: There was a lot of pressure on you to deliver 747 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite moments, and Tristan, I'm going to 748 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: tell a story about you at the wedding. Okay. So 749 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 1: we're at the wedding and things were going a little 750 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: slow with Tristan. Okay, she was I've been a hard 751 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: time getting out the door. So I was sent in 752 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: to see what the situation was and what was going on. 753 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: And you know, there was a million different trade outs 754 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: for that, right there was tradeouts for everything short of 755 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,479 Speaker 1: socks because bombas hadn't been invented yet. And um, so 756 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: I go in and they wanted Trista to wear this 757 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: earring and necklace set that was just like monstrously large 758 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: and a very gaudy. And I go in and Trista 759 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: is I'm saying, I don't want to wear this on 760 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: my wedding day. And I have I'm talking to Trista. 761 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: And while I'm talking to Trista, I have people in 762 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: my ear saying, Carbone, what's going on? She trip me 763 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: walking down the hallway. They're ready to start. Where is she? 764 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: And I literally saw. I looked at Trista and I go, Trista, 765 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: give me one second. And I turned around and I'm 766 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: just like, um, I'm having a moment with Trista and 767 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: I need five minutes and you all need to relax. 768 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: And so I turned back to Trista and I said, Trista, 769 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: it's your wedding day. You're not going to have to 770 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: wear anything you don't want to wear. Yeah, And Trista 771 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: looked at me and she was just like, you understand me, 772 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: thank you, And I was just like wa. Then she 773 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: wore she didn't wear the ear rings, or she didn't 774 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: wear the neck, she didn't wear one of the one 775 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: of the pieces. And I was just like, we're good. 776 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: We didn't get it all, but we got half of it, guys, 777 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: and that's going to have to be good enough. And 778 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: in three yes, like that's what you want, Like as 779 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: is in life or as the lead on the Bachelor 780 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: of the bachelorrete you just sometimes want to be heard 781 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: and seen, and especially when it's your freaking wedding day. 782 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: It was just like you had all these people scared 783 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: to upset Trista and scared to upset all the sponsors. Yeah. 784 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, the only person we 785 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: don't want to upset on her wedding day is Tristatas. 786 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: We're good. We've got all the weird you We're good, Like, 787 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: let's not worry about this, this is a big day. 788 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: Let's see all those picked chairs. Yeah, we love you, Carbone, 789 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Funny, thanks for joining us on 790 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: the show. And you guys, we could do to him. 791 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: We were like, well, still a whole hour or more, 792 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: not a problem. Yeah, continued success and tell everyone we 793 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: said hello, alright Jason carbone Man that m Yes. I 794 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: have called him so many times over the years. You know, 795 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: I want to do this with you. I want to 796 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: do that with you. What should I do in this situation? 797 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, just for advice or just to chat. I 798 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: mean he's just solid, you know, not just not just 799 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: a great producer, right, or someone who knows their way 800 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: around the industry, but someone who's willing to let their 801 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: go down a little bit and be real and be 802 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: honest and be your friend. Even during both of our 803 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: experiences on that show. When you know, if you think 804 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: about it, that's the one thing you don't really have 805 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: right as the lead when you're there. You don't have 806 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: any of your friends or family there. Well you let them. 807 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: I did have friends, No, that was that was one 808 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: of the only seasons that I was allowed. So I 809 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: had my best friend from Shannon Oliver who was on 810 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: The Bachelor with her, and then Missy Babone who was 811 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: my best friend from grad school, and I got to 812 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: have all of them there. They lived in the house 813 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: with you guys. They got to vote on who I 814 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: was taking on dates, like I would evaluate us, they 815 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 1: would evaluate us from conversations and stuff. I remember that totally. 816 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: So I had a very unique situation and that they 817 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: let me have my friends that that was something that 818 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: I I requested, like can I have some friends come 819 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: and help me. They're a huge part of my life 820 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: and I feel, like I have said over the years, 821 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: they need to bring that, bring that back. But but 822 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: when we don't have my season for one episode, like 823 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: not even an episode like one to day. I don't 824 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 1: even think it's two days. I think it was one day, 825 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: and it was because it works so well on your season, 826 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: they carried it over to my season. I remember doing it. Yeah, 827 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: but it was only one day. Yeah, I mean even 828 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: though I did have friends there for for most of it. 829 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: The producers you're with them all the time, and you 830 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: just you you have to vibe like even the producers 831 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: to this day. You have to have a producer who 832 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 1: can get along with all different personalities, who can make 833 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: people feel seen and feel heard, because that's where the 834 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: good stuff comes from, that's where the reality comes from. 835 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: For reality television, you got to trust for people you're 836 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 1: talking to I agree with you. I agree. Well, yeah, 837 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: another wonderful episode of the almost famous O G S 838 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: and we had that was a true O G right there. 839 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: That was a trio G from a production perspective. Having 840 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: Carbone on, I mean, man alive. I love that guy. 841 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: I just love he's doing great. Oh my god, so good. 842 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: I know, I know, so good. Okay, Well, thanks for 843 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: sending in questions everybody. We were going to try to 844 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: get to them today, but we don't have a lot 845 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: of time, so we're just going to roll that over 846 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: into next episode. I don't know who we'll have, but 847 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: I am going to pitch that we have our our 848 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: spouses on soon. I can say I'm gonna write I'm 849 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: gonna write us, and I'm gonna say, please come and 850 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: chat with me. She'll do it for you, she will 851 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: not do it for me. I'm gonna shure you. And 852 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: you probably didn't notice, but you know, during a few 853 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: of the stories, I was like muting my line because 854 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: my son was literally trying to break in here. I'm like, 855 00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: oh mg, here we go again on the door. He's like, Dad, 856 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,720 Speaker 1: why aren't you opening that door? I was like, okay, 857 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I would literally mute it. I'd 858 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: be like, big, let's go hello, help anybody. So yeah, 859 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. But you know what, the next next 860 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: week is Father's Day, right, and that's a big day 861 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: and a big day for me, a big day for 862 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,479 Speaker 1: for Ryan, big day for all the dads out there. 863 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how many dads listen to our show. 864 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope a bunch. But Carbones a father. 865 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'll tell you man. I waited, 866 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 1: of course, until later in life to have kids, and 867 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: it is such a special experience for me too. I'm 868 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: so thankful that it worked out the way that it 869 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: worked out for me to be at this age where 870 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: I think I think I would have always wanted to 871 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: be a super invested in dad dad, but like to 872 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: go through COVID and be able to be at my 873 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: house for basically a year and a half with my 874 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: son and my dad. Um, I'm gonna get myself emotional here, 875 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: but it's like one of those things where it's like 876 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: you go through those experiences in life, timing just has 877 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: a way of working out right, and it's like, you're 878 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: so thankful to h to be a dad right now. 879 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for Father's Day. Yeah you should be. 880 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: We get to celebrate you and all the great dads 881 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: out there, including some from Bachelor Nation. And we won't 882 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: tell you who's visiting. You'll just have to tune into 883 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: a fo G next week for our Father's Day episode 884 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: by Trista. All right, thanks Bob, bye everybody, Bye everybody. 885 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,479 Speaker 1: Thank you,