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Speaker 2: hole with full consensuality. It's Morning Combat. Friday, December fifth,

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Speaker 2: I'm in San Antonio here, fired up as as all.

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Speaker 2: It's Luke Thomas and DC representing your alma mater of

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Speaker 2: William and Mary who did consummate LT. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to all the fans for joining us. Luke,

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Speaker 2: Hell of a fight by the way to two guys

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Speaker 2: How's life. How's the Tukes? You know, we're big fans.

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Speaker 7: Great to see what's up, gentlemen, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 7: It's always always a pleasure to be on the show.

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Speaker 2: So Chris, let's start right off the top here two

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Speaker 7: No, in terms of box boxing math, boxing math doesn't work,

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Speaker 7: Look, he used a great word discipline and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: What would you say was your biggest takeaway? Why was

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we were supposed to have a very interesting co

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Speaker 2: I've always supported clean sport. You know this well. I

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Speaker 2: Laura will stay on the card of course against brawler

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this is strike two for Janabec. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not at all. But the good news is elevated

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about a true Bickham fight. Oshaki Foster,

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Speaker 2: one ten on DraftKings, but Stephen Fulton JUNR. Cool Boy

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Speaker 9: Small?

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Speaker 10: Now serious?

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Speaker 4: Oh god?

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Speaker 2: Serious?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't need to smile. I show you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show you. I'm You're gonna

436
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Speaker 1: come back.

437
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 2: So, Chris, They're gonna show us something the real ones. No,

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Speaker 2: this is a real last fight. What do you love

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Speaker 2: about this matchup?

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Speaker 7: I mean everything, I think. I think in terms of

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Speaker 7: the stylistic matchup. You got two guys with a high

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Speaker 7: boxing I Q they're gonna be matching wits.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You obviously see some bad blood there at the face off.

446
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Speaker 7: These guys are very very serious. Shaki Foster is a

447
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Speaker 7: guy that I actually rate man. I really like Oshaki Foster.

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Speaker 7: You've got some some some bad breaks. He's got some

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Speaker 7: good breaks too. You know, he can be he's very

450
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Speaker 7: He's got a lot of tools in his bag. We've

451
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Speaker 7: seen him be a cardiac kid where he had to

452
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Speaker 7: come from back from behind in a fight where he

453
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Speaker 7: was down to score late round knockouts. You've seen him

454
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Speaker 7: bumble close decisions because he just allows too much room

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Speaker 7: for judges to give give rounds to other guys. You've

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Speaker 7: seen him be able to disarm a guy like Robinson

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Speaker 7: Hobson Canses, which is a fan performance. You know, he

458
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Speaker 7: can box, he's big, he can punch. You know, this

459
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Speaker 7: is his weight class and he's really big for one thirty.

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Speaker 7: But man, cool boy stuff. He just cannot count that

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Speaker 7: man out unless he's fighting anyway. But other than that,

462
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Speaker 7: always always in in it, and he's and he's he

463
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Speaker 7: looks like he's really locked in to me, I think

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Speaker 7: if they just go on boxing on q A loan,

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Speaker 7: I'm going with cool Boy. I think Scooter's gonna be

466
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Speaker 7: able to outwit and out out Savvy using his experience

467
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Speaker 7: and his ability to you know, his experience with that

468
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Speaker 7: guys at the high level. If Oshaki makes things this

469
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Speaker 7: thing physical and uses that size advantage, because again I'm

470
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Speaker 7: gonna reiterate, he's a big thirty pounder. He's big, he's athletic.

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Speaker 7: H If he can push that pace early and use

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Speaker 7: that physicality, I can see him getting it. But this

473
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Speaker 7: is another fight. This is a real fifty to fifty

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Speaker 7: fight and one that I'm gonna be watching really intently.

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Speaker 1: If I may just one kind of sidebar here, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get your opinion. There's obviously been debate

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Speaker 1: around sanctioning bodies and the WBC and potienticular they got

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Speaker 1: kind of at loggerheads with Terrence Crawford this week, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people probably share the opinion

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Speaker 1: that the sanctioning bodies have a little bit of this

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Speaker 1: coming to them. On the other hand, here we are

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Speaker 1: talking about Oshaki Foster, who has been explicit as a

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Speaker 1: guy who did not have, you know, or at least

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Speaker 1: for long stretches of his career, did not necessarily have

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Speaker 1: a big promoter. Having a WBC title in his particular case,

486
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Speaker 1: was a great way for him to advance his career.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the current debate it's not

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Speaker 1: so much about WBC specifically, although in this case it is,

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Speaker 1: but more broadly about the value of the titles, the

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Speaker 1: sanctioning bodies, and the job they're doing in boxing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they're important. I think they matter, belts matter,

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Speaker 7: Being a champion matters, and Oshaki Foster I had some

493
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Speaker 7: very similar background in terms of having a very small

494
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Speaker 7: promoter local I couldn't get out of my own hometown.

495
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Speaker 7: I was killing me because I really needed needed that

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Speaker 7: exposure in the world stage, and that title got me that.

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Speaker 7: Becoming a world champion brought me to elevate in my

498
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Speaker 7: career so much, and I had a bargaining ship to

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Speaker 7: make a lot of money and get some really big

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Speaker 7: fight set to that. So I think that they're of

501
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Speaker 7: a necessary evil. I don't like everything they do, obviously,

502
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Speaker 7: no one does, you know, in terms of you know,

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Speaker 7: whether it's sanctioning fees, whether the two tier system of

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Speaker 7: how they treat in fractions by certain fighters and over others.

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Speaker 7: You know, some of the some of the the the

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Speaker 7: whack could do ideas that have out there, you know,

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Speaker 7: in terms of the weigh ins and and and rehydration

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Speaker 7: and things like that. So there's a lot of things

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Speaker 7: that I that I don't like, and you know, I

510
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Speaker 7: would love for them to change, But at the end

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Speaker 7: of the day, I think they're a necessary evil and

512
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Speaker 7: having these titles is important for fighters in order to

513
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Speaker 7: make them bucks that they deserve.

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Speaker 1: All right, getting back to the card itself, there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of names that want to throw at you and

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Speaker 1: tell me what you think of them, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: the fight that they're in. We see a name like

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Speaker 1: this on the card and we're like, well, is he

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Speaker 1: really the good Shane Mosley Junior has a record of

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Speaker 1: twenty two and four. Seems like a bit of a

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Speaker 1: red flag in terms of the number of losses. I've

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Speaker 1: talked to BC about him. We'd love to get your

523
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Speaker 1: sense he's taken on Hayesu's Ramos, who's obviously the A

524
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Speaker 1: side in this contest. Is Shane Mosley Junior even a

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Speaker 1: little bit like his dad? What what?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: What kind of threat is he?

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Speaker 7: He's not like his dad, but he's a good fighter.

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Speaker 7: And I like this fight. I actually really like this

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Speaker 7: fight because Shane OL's the junior He's finding at fifty

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Speaker 7: four for this fight, right, this is the record I.

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Speaker 1: Have says sixty is.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so Ramas moved up. So but again, in regardless

534
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Speaker 7: of Shane fighting in the way class that he was,

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Speaker 7: he should be in because I believe he fought Danny

536
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Speaker 7: Jacobs at one sixty eight, so he's he's a big

537
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Speaker 7: mid of eight. He's athletic, and uh, this is his

538
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Speaker 7: last shot. You mentioned the losses, got four losses, another

539
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Speaker 7: one here. You're likely not going to see him at

540
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Speaker 7: the world class level, buying for big fights, but this

541
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Speaker 7: is a winnable fight Ramos coming up to one sixty Ramos,

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Speaker 7: we saw him against Lubin really just not do much.

543
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Speaker 7: You know, he can a lot of fight slip away.

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Speaker 7: I was very high on this kid going into that fight,

545
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Speaker 7: and then that fight really kind of showed me there

546
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Speaker 7: are some things to work on. And I think Shane

547
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Speaker 7: is athletic enough, long enough, and he he's got good experience.

548
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Speaker 7: He's been in with some real tough, tough cats. I

549
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Speaker 7: do think Shane is good. I think this is actually

550
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Speaker 7: a sneaky good fight. I mean, I would definitely favor Ramos,

551
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Speaker 7: but don't be surprised as Shane goes out there and

552
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Speaker 7: performs well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, the other one on my list is at

554
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Speaker 1: one time after the Tank Fight, I booked an interview

555
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Speaker 1: with Frank Martin and we had to rebook it four

556
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Speaker 1: times and he failed to show all five times.

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Speaker 2: Ghost the Ghost, Yeah, the Ghost.

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Speaker 1: I found out how he got the nickname. It was incredible.

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Speaker 1: He is back since I think this is first fight

560
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Speaker 1: since the Tank Fighter, I believe, so taking on a

561
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Speaker 1: gentleman at thirty nine years of age who at one

562
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Speaker 1: point I'm not gonna say it was not a good boxer.

563
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Speaker 1: He was, but Rancis Barthelemy, who is pound for pound,

564
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Speaker 1: maybe one of the least entertaining fighters to watch at

565
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Speaker 1: this stage. Just as my opinion, you don't have to

566
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Speaker 1: co sign it. But I don't really know what to

567
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Speaker 1: make of this contest at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

568
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Speaker 1: Where do you come down on, like what's left of

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Speaker 1: Martin who has still had a kind of young had

570
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Speaker 1: a good name. Yes, the tank loss was bad, but

571
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Speaker 1: we size this one up for me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Frank Martin, you can't write him off yet. He's

573
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Speaker 7: got one loss and it's the tank and tank is

574
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Speaker 7: a is a murderous puncher and listen, that was his

575
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Speaker 7: first step up big fight of that level. Like you said,

576
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Speaker 7: he is young.

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Speaker 11: I like.

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Speaker 7: I like Frank Martin. I like the way he fights.

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Speaker 7: I think he's uh he's physical, he's strong, comes in

580
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Speaker 7: great shape, he's he's got good boxing iq.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: This is a tough comeback fight though. Man, you mentioned Bartholeomey,

583
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Speaker 7: Like whatever you think about his style, he's a disruptor.

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Speaker 7: He's he's disengaged, disengaged, disrupt tie you up, keep the

585
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Speaker 7: jab long, be a little rubber bandy when he gets

586
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Speaker 7: hit with shots. Yeah, this is a really tough comeback

587
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Speaker 7: fight to look good in, because nobody really looks good

588
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Speaker 7: against Barthellamy. But if Tank, if if Frank can go

589
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 7: out there and just get the win and right the ship,

590
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Speaker 7: you know, and and show that he can do something

591
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Speaker 7: at one forty, I think he's right back in the

592
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Speaker 7: mix because he only has that one loss. And again

593
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Speaker 7: I think he's got a lot of skills. So, but

594
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Speaker 7: this is a really tough comeback fight to look good in.

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Speaker 2: Chris, great chat with you, man. We love your work

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Speaker 2: One final question. I wanted to toss it to our

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Speaker 2: producer Long Island, Luke Nocita, because Chris, he's a Northport

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Speaker 2: native who lives and dies Huntington, Long Island. Right now,

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Speaker 2: No Cita, you got to ask him about bagels or

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Speaker 2: coffee or or local chicks or something here right.

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Speaker 4: Just Algeria.

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Speaker 5: I want to say, I'm at the Paramount all the time,

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Speaker 5: and every time I'm there, I think, are you fighting there?

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Speaker 5: I never got to see you fight there, but uh

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Speaker 5: do live down the road from it, So shout out.

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Speaker 4: Huntington's awesome.

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Speaker 7: That's awesome, man. Pleasure, pleasure to meet you. And yeah, honey,

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Speaker 7: does great town make great place to grow up? And

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Speaker 7: at Paramount is one of the best venues around. Man,

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Speaker 7: I thought they're eleven times back at back in the

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Speaker 7: Day's funny walking the streets and just fighting in my

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Speaker 7: home town is very very cool, very cool time.

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Speaker 2: All right, Chris, we can't wait for this car this Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough to be on the call more we're

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Speaker 2: not a little bit in the seed as well, so

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Speaker 2: it should be a good time over there on PBC

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Speaker 2: on Prime Chris, thank you for your time. Always a

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Speaker 2: pleasure to chat with.

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Speaker 4: You, brother.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely I feel the same way, guys, you show rocks

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Speaker 7: keep going.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Good stuff from Chris al Jerry there. I

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Speaker 2: were responsible to a point Monday when we had Jed,

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Speaker 2: Misshu and studio.

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Speaker 1: I didn't drive after that, I had I had Amtrak

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Speaker 1: drive me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. But some people are

651
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Speaker 2: saying it's among our greatest pregame previews of all time?

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Speaker 2: Is that because of Jed's grossness or what it was?

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Speaker 7: Loose?

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Speaker 1: I think that I think they like loose, you know,

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Speaker 1: like my like my stool before today's show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right. I was gonna say, like those

657
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Speaker 2: chicks at your fraternity parties. But that's a little bit disgusting,

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Speaker 2: all right. Uh, speaking of disgusting, let's transition here into

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Speaker 2: topic number two. Hey, members of t KO and UFC

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Speaker 2: Brass spoke in front of Congress yesterday and washing DC

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Speaker 2: at a herring titled in their Corner creating more opportunities

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Speaker 2: for a Marria Boxers, where proponents of Both sides of

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Speaker 2: the proposed ALI Revival Act, presented by ZUFA Boxing, had

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Speaker 2: their piece. Notably, Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, an outspoken combat

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Speaker 2: sports fan, pushed UFC executive Lawrence Epstein on the promotion's

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Speaker 2: history of fighter pay and anti trust lawsuits. LT You

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Speaker 2: were there in attendance, along with everyone from zufa's Nick

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Speaker 2: Khn to California Athletic Commission had Andy Foster to the

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Speaker 2: attorney Pat English who helped draft the original ALI Act.

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Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway about the battle ahead for

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Speaker 2: TKO in getting this let's say it controversial piece of

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Speaker 2: legislator legislature passed.

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Speaker 1: Their only obstacle to getting this passed is the way

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Speaker 1: in which the Senate now votes on things. And I'll

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Speaker 1: explain what that means in a second. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I want to just sort of set the table. I

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Speaker 1: was the only media member who was there. There was

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Speaker 1: one member of the political media, but they were just

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Speaker 1: a photographer. They weren't actually like doing any kind of

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Speaker 1: coverage or beyond just you know, photographing the moment. There

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Speaker 1: was no one who was doing any kind of text

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Speaker 1: base or video based work, any in any.

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Speaker 2: Capacity john s Nash when you need them, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, well he lives. He lives I think on the

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Speaker 1: West Coast. I could be wrong about that, but you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously it was local, so it's very easy for me

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Speaker 1: to do. But I just want to point out there

688
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Speaker 1: was not that there. However, the event was very well

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Speaker 1: attended BC. The room was packed. There was a line

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Speaker 1: down the hall. We were in the Rayburn building on

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Avenue. And when I tell you that the majority

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Speaker 1: of those people were either UFC TKO employees or the

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Speaker 1: absolute army of TKO lobbyists that they had there who

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Speaker 1: I met a few of them. They were you know,

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Speaker 1: people have this misconception they think lobbyists are kind of

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Speaker 1: like mean and cold. It's quite the opposite. They're actually

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Speaker 1: quite friendly, as you can imagine. They have the glad

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Speaker 1: hand all the time and develop relationships. I talked to

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Speaker 1: many of them in the hallway. That was the majority

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Speaker 1: of who was there. The way I need to explain

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Speaker 1: this to you is I don't have a ton of

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Speaker 1: experience on the hill. In a previous career, I had

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Speaker 1: a little bit, so you know, take this with a

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Speaker 1: grain of salt. But to the extent that I've been

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Speaker 1: exposed to these processes before, where committees have hearings, they

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Speaker 1: talk about eventual markup and then you know, they tried

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Speaker 1: to push legislation through. I have never in my life

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Speaker 1: encountered personally a more lopsided legislative effort than this one.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is TKO is running

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Speaker 1: a highly financed, organized, well thought out campaign on the

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Speaker 1: lobbying side of things to advance this legislation, both in

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Speaker 1: terms of messaging, in terms of a lawmaker outreach, in

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Speaker 1: terms of earned media spots. I mean, you name it.

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Speaker 1: They're doing a phenomenal job at it. And the resistance

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Speaker 1: to that, because typically what happens we see when you have,

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Speaker 1: you know, contentious legislation of any kind, there's usually an

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Speaker 1: organized resistance. There is no organized resistance to this. The

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Speaker 1: boxing stakeholders who claim that they're alarmed by this, I

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Speaker 1: know some say that they're not. But the ones who

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Speaker 1: AREBC asleep at the wheel, they're going to get absolutely

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Speaker 1: run over there. This is Marshawn Lynch not even trying

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Speaker 1: to run through the tackles of high school kids. It's

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Speaker 1: prime Marshaw Lynch, unopposed just a straight shot down the field.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this, it is. And I talked

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Speaker 1: to some other lobbyists that I know who were not

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Speaker 1: with TKO, but you know, obviously extensive experience on the Hill.

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Speaker 1: They all tell me it's a foregone conclusion that will

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Speaker 1: pass through committee and to the House. The only place

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Speaker 1: that there really could be some trouble for this is

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Speaker 1: in the Senate. Now I'm not guaranteeing that, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: here's one of the points of friction. As everyone knows,

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Speaker 1: our politics are broken, and so what happens in the

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Speaker 1: Senate is if they're trying to pass something related to

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Speaker 1: the spending to the budget, they only need a simple

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Speaker 1: majority to pass and what's called a reconciliation bill, they

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Speaker 1: only need fifty one right out of one hundre they

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Speaker 1: only need fifty one, But for anything not expressly related

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Speaker 1: to that, they have to get sixty. Now that's not

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Speaker 1: a constitutional rule, but what's happening now, this has been

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Speaker 1: happening for years. Basically every side is just filibustering everything else.

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Speaker 1: You actually can't filibuster budgeting bills in the Senate, but

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Speaker 1: you can filibuster anything else. So it is a foregone

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Speaker 1: conclusion that someone will try and filibuster this, meaning you

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Speaker 1: have to get a sixty vote cloture to end that.

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Speaker 1: Do they have sixty votes for this in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: We don't know the answer to that yet. It remains

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Speaker 1: hard to say. But for people who are thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: this could go along partisan lines, the Republicans all support,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats don't. That's really not my read. You already

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Speaker 1: see that it was introduced in a bipartisan way. There were,

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Speaker 1: for example, all of the congressmen out of Nevada who

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Speaker 1: have been I think approached about this, who are Democrats,

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Speaker 1: have signed on as either co sponsors or have spoken

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Speaker 1: out in favor of it in one manner or another.

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Speaker 1: They were someone who wasn't even on the committee yesterday,

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Speaker 1: a Democrat from Nevada who spoke in favor of the legislation.

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Speaker 1: Because what they want are people pouring money into you know,

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas resources, right ZUFA is based out of there.

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense, at least from their

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Speaker 1: advantage point. And I did see some skepticism from some

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Speaker 1: Democratic lawmakers, Representative ilhan Omar out of Minnesota probably being

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Speaker 1: chief among them. BC. But it's not like this is

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Speaker 1: falling expressly along partisan lines. Short answer here is absent

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Speaker 1: strange ways in which the Senate does business. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna pass. Like there's the understand something very last thing

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Speaker 1: I want to make on this point, if I'm maybec

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Speaker 1: understand the pitch that they're making to the broader public.

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Speaker 1: They're making two pitches simultaneously. BC. One pitch is, isn't

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Speaker 1: boxing broken, right, Let's repair it, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: put a ton of money into it. Right, We're going

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Speaker 1: to invest Like who's putting money into boxing in the

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Speaker 1: American landscape. They kept talking about how Showtime and HBO

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Speaker 1: and ESPN they all kind of kicked boxing to the curb.

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Speaker 1: Here they are saying, we're gonna put money into this.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of the one part about it. But I

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Speaker 1: mentioned the first one too, which is, hey, boxing is broken,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna fix it. We've got the fix to

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Speaker 1: get boxing back to it's hey days. BC. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: I think I heard Hagler Hearns referenced yesterday fifty thousand times.

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Everybody, from the lawmakers to the witnesses,

781
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Speaker 1: everybody in between was doing it so like who else

782
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Speaker 1: is making that pitch to the American public. Who else

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Speaker 1: is making that pitch to lawmakers? We'll fix it, and

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Speaker 1: we'll finance it. I'm not saying that I want that

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Speaker 1: makes me agree with the legislation. I am well on

786
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Speaker 1: record of saying I oppose it. But I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: if you're a lawmaker and you barely understand any of this,

788
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Speaker 1: and then you have people with a proven track record

789
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Speaker 1: of some success coming to you and saying, well, finance

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Speaker 1: it and we'll fix it, brother, and they're running unopposed,

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Speaker 1: how does it not pass? Is really my question?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I heard there was going to be

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Speaker 2: a heiring involving Epstein in DC. I got pretty excited.

794
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Speaker 2: Look that we're going to finally get to the bottom

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Speaker 2: of all this.

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Speaker 1: Not that one, that one, not that one, very different one.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the organizers, I'm sorry, without the sex, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: without the sex.

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Speaker 2: Like Bellaal the voice of all Long Island Luke noseda

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Speaker 2: there who will keep us updated? By the way on

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Speaker 2: UFC three twenty three way in results, which is a

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Speaker 2: key part of our analysis coming up next topic. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned that the the organized front that zoof on

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Speaker 2: TKO or putting on ahead of what is expected to

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Speaker 2: be their January launch of the Zufo Boxing League slash

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Speaker 2: series that will air on Paramount Plus. Nick con did

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Speaker 2: the media rounds on some very TKO favorable spots, including

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Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee Show and Max Kellerman's new show on

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Speaker 2: Ring to basically explain the argument that they've landed upon

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Speaker 2: that you can take the old way, or you can

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Speaker 2: go with the new way. You can get with this,

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Speaker 2: or you can get with that. I think you'll get

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Speaker 2: with this though, because this is where it's at, where

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Speaker 2: it's at start of the video.

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Speaker 6: Please, the IBF either pleaded guilty or was found guilty

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Speaker 6: in Federal Court of corruption. So the Muhammad Ali Act

817
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Speaker 6: was intended with a pure purpose of protecting the fighter.

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Speaker 6: What we're suggesting with the Muhammad Ali Enhancement Act is

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Speaker 6: to leave the Muhammad Ali Act as currently drafted alone.

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Speaker 6: We're not proposing any changes to it. What we're proposing,

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Speaker 6: we call it, is an or another option where you

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Speaker 6: can come over and fight for any promoter you want

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Speaker 6: who has its own system that doesn't have to abide

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Speaker 6: by what we think are arbitrary rules of the sanctioning

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Speaker 6: bodies unfair rules of the sanctioning bodies, which would thereby

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Speaker 6: allow a champion like Terence Crawford to defend his title

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Speaker 6: against the number one contender rather than oh, you have

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Speaker 6: to fight the super chainmpion, the champion in recess, the

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Speaker 6: interim champion, the WBU champion, whatever, all the nonsense. Is

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Speaker 6: it's that simple.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only argument against the things that Nick

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Speaker 2: con had said that I can really say is he's

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Speaker 2: trying to say it's going to be like UFC where

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Speaker 2: a number one contender always faces the champion, and then

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Speaker 2: we have fan complaints about the UFC three twenty four

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Speaker 2: and three twenty five main events where that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, no need to get into an engine engine

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Speaker 2: number nine continuation of that fantastic Black Sheep song. But

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Speaker 2: if you don't know boxing and all, you know that

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Speaker 2: it's broken. This plan actually sounds good, right, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, are we going to sit here and

842
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Speaker 2: defend the alphabet bodies? No, they've made this sport.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the other part. Two is like, dude,

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Speaker 1: they've in the years of disrepair that they've tolerated and

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Speaker 1: or fostered, is really coming back to haunt them. But

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Speaker 1: the logic of what TKO is saying is so silly

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 4: BC.

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Speaker 1: It's like, listen, we're not saying with all these laws

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Speaker 1: against you know, financial fraud, we're not saying change them.

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Speaker 1: We're just saying, or here's an option of ways you

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Speaker 1: can be exempted from following rules that prevent financial fraud.

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Speaker 1: It's like, that's not really an ore, that's an that's

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Speaker 1: an end around. That's a very different kind of way

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Speaker 1: of putting it. Granted that this message is being lost

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Speaker 1: on the lawmakers is very very clear. But the thing

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Speaker 1: that really stood out to me yesterday ABC was it's

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Speaker 1: a very very very easy thing to leverage boxing's both

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Speaker 1: current state of decline, but this long sort of association

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Speaker 1: with being a sport of how should we say, not

861
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Speaker 1: just say again lawlessness, disrepair, like just being like they

862
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Speaker 1: and dysfunctional. It's such an easy sell. And again the

863
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: problem is there's no organized pat English was the only

864
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Speaker 1: person who spoke yesterday who had any kind of competing

865
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Speaker 1: vision about how it should be. You know, it's kind

866
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Speaker 1: of funny like the opposition has no way of saying,

867
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Speaker 1: here's better legis in fact we see I was talking,

868
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, with some of TKO's lobbyists out in

869
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Speaker 1: the out in the hallway, and they were because they

870
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Speaker 1: foolishly asked me what I thought of the legislation. I

871
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I think it's real bad. And they

872
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: were some of them couldn't believe I was saying this

873
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: to them and they're like, well, what are you what

874
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: are you offering as remedy. I'm like fixing the inhal

875
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: Ali Act. It's very very like weird nick Con, who's

876
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: a very bright guy, like this is not you know,

877
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Nikon is not a fool by any stretched imagination. He's

878
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: a very bright, successful guy. But when he talks about

879
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: the Ali Enhancement Act, I mean this is this is

880
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Orwellian to the end degree. It's not enhancement. It's exemption.

881
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: That's the difference. And rather than creating stronger protections and

882
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: people understanding that they're going this direction, but BC, because

883
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: of boxing's byzantine structure, where there's a bunch of promoters,

884
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of sanctioning bodies, there's a bunch of champions,

885
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: people have a hard time understanding why that needs to

886
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Speaker 1: be maintained, and there's no one advocating for a vision

887
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: of not so much the brokenness that we understand today,

888
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: but a separation of powers. Yeah, there's really nobody doing that.

889
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: So TKO this one, I mean, do TKO is up

890
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: there just running unopposed anyone hoping that this is going

891
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: to get stopped. The only hope is twenty or excuse

892
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: to be sixty votes for cloture in the Senate.

893
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: That's it.

894
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I can see through it. But at

895
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: the same time, there's no organized front from boxing. They

896
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: act like a bunch of clowns. Do you have Oscar

897
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: de la Hooya trying to fight it through clapback Thursday?

898
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: I think Ifander Holyfield made a statement against it. But

899
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: you've got the widow of Muhammad Ali going forward, You've

900
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: got everybody else pushing the agenda. It feels like it's

901
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: going to go through, maybe tied along with this. It

902
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: seems like a strategic push in that it happened just

903
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: days leading up to this congressional hearing. We did have

904
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: this dust up that we mentioned earlier when Chris al

905
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: Jerry was on between the WBC and Terence Crawford. That

906
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: seemed to I think from TKO's standpoint zoofa standpoint illuminate

907
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: the issues here. First, let's see the video that sparked

908
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: all this with Mauricio Sulaman of WBC talking about why

909
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: he stripped Terrence Crawford at this title he.

910
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 12: Did not comply with the rules. Then he moves up

911
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 12: to super middle and makes the fight of the Century

912
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 12: meets Canello.

913
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: Makes fifty million dollars or around that.

914
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 12: The DOLLARBC absolutely is not going to charge three percent

915
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 12: of such an amount. We made a very clear zero

916
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Speaker 12: point six percent, which is three hundred thousand dollars, with

917
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 12: two one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars going to

918
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Speaker 12: the concessul Amn Boxers Fund, which is to help former

919
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 12: fighters in need.

920
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: And it is just regardable, not.

921
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 12: Even a thank you or I'm sorry taking a different route,

922
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 12: no response.

923
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Speaker 7: I wish him the best, but this is not the

924
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Speaker 7: dollar b C is huge.

925
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: It's great.

926
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 12: It's about greatness, and I'm relieved to tell.

927
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 8: Now.

928
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: Look, I have no sympathy for the heads of all

929
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: of the four alphabet sanctioning bodies for the greed they've done.

930
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: Mauricio included done great stuff for the sport. Have also

931
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: done a lot of awful stuff with the super champions,

932
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: the unnecessary belts. The system is, you want to defend

933
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: one of those alphabet titles, you need to pay them

934
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: that percentage. Every time we've seen big earning fighters in

935
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: the past, whether it be Canelo, Floyd Mayweather, decide not

936
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: to defend a certain title to avoid that payment. But

937
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: the heavy handedness of Mauricio saying there was no apology

938
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: from Crawford, boy, did that fire up north Omaha's own.

939
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: Here's just a piece of the video he put out

940
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: that lit up the internet this week.

941
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Speaker 13: Mauricio, you know, got a lot to say about me

942
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 13: nine paying him three hundred thousand dollars plus another one

943
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 13: hundred k something for sanctioned fees. Right, tell me, I

944
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 13: ain't even tell apologize, Like, who the fuck you think

945
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Speaker 13: I am?

946
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 10: Boy?

947
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 13: You better slap your fucking self and paying your ass shit?

948
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: Fuck you talking.

949
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 13: About paying you three hundred thousand dollars. What makes you

950
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 13: so motherfucking better than any other other sanction bodies?

951
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 5: Huh?

952
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: Answer that question?

953
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: What makes you better than the WBO, the IBF or

954
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: the WBA.

955
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 13: Everybody accepted what I what I was giving them, but you, you,

956
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 13: the WBC think that you better than everybody, don't you.

957
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 13: So since you the WBC and you got the fucking

958
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 13: green belt, which don't mean fucking shit. The fucking real

959
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 13: belt is the green belt, which is free.

960
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: Motherfucker you talking about you want.

961
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 13: Me to pay you more than the other sanctioned bodies

962
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 13: because you feel like you better than them. How in

963
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 13: the world all the sanctioned bodies agreed to the same amount,

964
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 13: but you said your motherfucking ass up there and say

965
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 13: that I need to apologize to you.

966
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: The fuck you can take the fucking built should have

967
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: dropped it in a garbage can riddick boat style, Luke.

968
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: I have no sympathy for the alphabets, but is right. Also,

969
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: this is very calculated by zoof for to put this

970
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: out to have Nick con On interviews accusing Mauricio of

971
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: asking for extra tickets and sweet hotels for the Canelo

972
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: Crawford fight. It is what it is. It looks like

973
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: UBOs are here. They've done the right things public publicly

974
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: to sort of show you why it should get passed.

975
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is.

976
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean I think you would have to

977
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: be naive to look at the timing of this thing.

978
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: Between Mauricio and Terrence and also the media around the

979
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: Ali Act and this hearing yesterday, and think this is

980
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: all coincidence. You know, I don't know to what extent

981
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: to parents was influenced to make these kinds of statements,

982
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: but that the idea to me that he did it

983
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: totally organically and on his own without any prodding from

984
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: outside influence seems I would question that narrative. I think

985
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of wagging of the dog that's

986
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: happening here, so to speak. And this is what I mean, dude, Like,

987
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: look at this sophisticated, well organized, and well the lobbyists

988
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: that they have hired on the fucking hill. These are

989
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: the very best ones that money can buy. These are

990
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: guys with deep entrenched ties on Capitol Hill, the most

991
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 1: amazing rolodexes and approven ability to shepard through legislation even

992
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: on contentious issues. That's who they're hiring, dude, Like, just

993
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: understand the game that's being played. They are running a

994
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: un a fucking post here. So you know, I mean,

995
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: these people in boxing who have let their situation deteriorate

996
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: this way, you have earned your your own na I'm.

997
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: A hardcore boxing guy. But I can't defend boxing here,

998
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: but will Zoofa be able to if this passes hide

999
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: their finances from the fighters? Yes, put out their own titles. Yes,

1000
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: this is a major monumental change in the history of

1001
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 2: the sport. So we'll keep you posted as this continues

1002
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: to develop. To close, Luke, do we have any end

1003
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: date on when this might be decided?

1004
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: No? I mean this is the issue too, right, So

1005
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: what they were saying was they want to get to

1006
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: it quickly. I think they want to do it probably

1007
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: before the midterms, if at all possible. It's just a

1008
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: question of what kind of changes to the law that

1009
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: they pursue through markup. One thing that Andy Foster, who

1010
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: is the head of the California State Athletic Commission, did

1011
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: say yesterday in his testimony was that one thing he

1012
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: was hoping to get added was you know how there's

1013
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: going to be one hundred and fifty round one hundred

1014
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: fifty dollars minimum per round for the as like a

1015
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: national standard now, so that guys get paid. What he

1016
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: actually asked was for that to be tied to inflation

1017
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: so that it rises and adjusts as necessary over time.

1018
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Everyone seemed to be on board with that. That's a

1019
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: very minor ad, but it's a question of like what

1020
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: does hen Omar or other members of the committee potentially

1021
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: asking to what extent does that slow things down? Again?

1022
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I think they're probably gonna get it out before the

1023
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: midterms because after that it might actually be hard to

1024
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: get it through the House. It's hard to say exactly,

1025
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 1: but probably before the summer is what I would say.

1026
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: All Right, well, angry MMA fans can rejoice as we

1027
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: now transition into topic number three. It is UFC three

1028
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Speaker 2: twenty three Fight Week, the final pay per view in

1029
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Speaker 2: the ESPN UFC relationship which dates back to early twenty nineteen.

1030
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Speaker 2: It'll go down at T Mobile Arena in Las Vegas,

1031
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1034
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Speaker 2: we set the stage Monday with Jed Mischew with our

1035
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: pregame preview, but things have unrolled throughout fight week that

1036
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: definitely have gotten our attention and Luke, when I interviewed

1037
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: Bantamway champion Morob de Valashvili, who of course will be

1038
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: in the main event, defending his title in a rematch

1039
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: against pyotr Yan on the BCA This week, he made

1040
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: three separate unsolicited references to how hard this weight cut

1041
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: will be. Remember his fourth training camp in weightcut of

1042
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: this calendar year alone, as he looks to become the

1043
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: first UFC champion to defend the title four times in

1044
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: a single year. And then I listened to this sound

1045
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: of morale with bro Kamoto and the topic continued.

1046
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: Two months ago when you were telling me the hardest

1047
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: part is the weight cut. How is it cutting weight

1048
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: for the fourth time this year?

1049
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 14: It's a mental game, you know.

1050
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: Right now.

1051
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 14: I'm cutting weight, And so I was drinking water like Sunday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, yesterday,

1052
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 14: I stopped it. It was stop peeing, you know, like,

1053
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 14: and now my weight's high. It's like mental gaming. I

1054
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 14: know I will make it, but like and I feel

1055
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 14: like low energy and stuff. But it's uh, I kind

1056
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 14: of do my way, but it's always like it's always hot,

1057
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 14: you know.

1058
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: Now. Look a lot of people were talking about it

1059
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: Thursday's press conference. Morob's face looked very sucked in, sunk

1060
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: it in, however you want to say it here key question.

1061
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: We already laid this fight out on Monday and made

1062
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: our predictions, but are we overlooking just how physically demanding

1063
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: it is what Morob is trying to do this Saturday,

1064
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: and is the idea of Pierrion being a true live

1065
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: dog considering he's now one hundred percent healthy unlike the

1066
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: first fight. Are you changing your mind at all about

1067
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: what this rematch might look like on Saturday?

1068
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit. I mean we saw just this

1069
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: year for example. Now we see different way, class, different circumstance,

1070
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: different fighter. But with RDR right, I mean, he was

1071
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of hot, and yes the end of that Whittaker

1072
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: fight he slowed down, but I don't think any of

1073
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: us expected him to implode the kind of way he

1074
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: did in his last fight against Brendan Allen. It was very,

1075
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: very surprising to us. I did not think that was

1076
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: the toughest opponent he had all year. But it's look

1077
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: that way, and there's really no way to look at

1078
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: that and say, well, the weight cut played no role

1079
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: at all. In cases where you've got guys like Waldo

1080
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: Corteze Costa excuse me, at heavyweight, you know he's either

1081
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: not cutting weight or his cutting very minimal amounts of weight.

1082
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: And also those fights are not going very long for

1083
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: the most part too, BC. Right, so he's kind of

1084
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: in and out very quickly, whereas with Morob these are

1085
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: over the long haul. Now the thing is, BC, we

1086
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: kind of all know the score. It's like, well, if

1087
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: anybody seems to have I don't know what the word

1088
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: would be immunity to the kinds of physical challenges around

1089
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: what Morob is attempting. It would be Morob himself, the

1090
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: cardio king, you know, the guy who's got mental toughness

1091
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: for days. You would think a guy like that could

1092
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: be above it. But biology is frail and it is

1093
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: in many cases uncompromising. I will tell you, I'll just

1094
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: be honest. Maybe you feel differently. I probably overlooked this

1095
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: factor to a degree, and maybe I shouldn't. I mean,

1096
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: just just we should just make a point. We did

1097
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: talk about this on Monday Show BC. But remember Umar

1098
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 1: in January and then when was the the O'Malley rematch,

1099
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean a few months later, six months later June?

1100
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: What June? Then he has the fight against Sanhagen. Just

1101
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: a couple of months or what is it like a

1102
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: month or two ago, until months ago, until reo October

1103
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah.

1104
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: Uh.

1105
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: And then now this one, like just to get that

1106
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: three about stretch and I'm not talking about just beating

1107
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: the opponents, just the physical toll of that is kind

1108
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: of insane. To add this one against a guy who's

1109
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: getting a second crack at you and you have to

1110
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: cut weight on top of it and maintain it, you know,

1111
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: obviously to to to make that one because you can't.

1112
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: There's no allowance for title fights where you have to

1113
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: get the thirty five flat. This is I mean, it's

1114
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: it's it's standard Morob recklessness. You know, it's it's out.

1115
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: It's him dancing on the outside of that building. You're like,

1116
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: please don't fall, Please don't fall. He just never seems to.

1117
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: But you wonder when the luck might run out.

1118
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: Be I mean, here's the deal, you know, like we

1119
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: talk about on Monday, Yan says he has a broken

1120
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: hand two years ago when they fought Morob's coach was

1121
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: like Morob's hand was so swollen from being broken they

1122
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: couldn't fit into a glove. Then you talk about three

1123
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: to eleven UFC. Three eleven his maybe his toughest matchup

1124
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: on paper to date when he was the underdog against

1125
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: unbeaten Umar and r Maga met off when Morob came

1126
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: in with back pain that he told me most fighters

1127
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to get out of bed with, and

1128
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 2: a huge gash on his shin that eventually needed twenty

1129
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: five stitches that caused, you know, a major staff infection

1130
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: there that Morob's team told Ariel afterwards that like normal

1131
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: humans would have worried about amputation if they had gone

1132
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: through that, Rob had to hide that cut from the

1133
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: doctors that week in California. It still went out there.

1134
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: Rallied in the Championship Browns and got the win. So

1135
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: in one sense, he's indestructible. He's not human, he's a machine.

1136
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: In the other sense, you have the RDR story. You

1137
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 2: have the Perreira story where he constantly took short notice

1138
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: fights while injured. He won them all until he didn't

1139
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: he ran into a which was the Nkeliath first fight.

1140
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: We wonder if this catches up with Morob. I have

1141
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: an interesting video that I want to get your take

1142
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: on here. Daniel Cormier joined CBS Sports HQ this week

1143
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 2: caught up with our friend for former colleague my current one.

1144
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: Shaquille Majori, who often texts you for a retweet. Luke

1145
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 2: I gave him a retweet on this one unsolicited. Here's

1146
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: DC with inside knowledge on why Morob has such a

1147
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: difficult cut beyond the fact that it's four camps in

1148
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: one year.

1149
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: This having to put his body through that cycle so often.

1150
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 15: I think that is where some of these people that

1151
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 15: question his ability to do it multiple times thinks about

1152
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 15: this as the problem because Morob also cuts weight the

1153
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 15: old school way. So what he does is this, this

1154
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 15: is crazy. He doesn't do the way that the UFCPI

1155
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 15: wants nutrition and kind of gradually bringing the way down.

1156
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 15: He actually doesn't cut weight until fight week, and then

1157
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 15: when he gets to like Wednesday, he completely shuts himself

1158
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 15: off from any hydration, any food, So he essentially starves

1159
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 15: himself from Wednesday to Friday to make the weight and

1160
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 15: then he tries to recover.

1161
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: Before he gets into the opera.

1162
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 15: That is why he hates the weight cuts so much,

1163
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 15: because he knows that starting yesterday he's pretty much done

1164
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 15: within taking anything before he steps on that scale on Friday.

1165
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 15: That is the danger for a guy like Morob, because

1166
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 15: the weight cut is so difficult to put his body

1167
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 15: through that four times in one calendar year is crazy,

1168
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 15: and the consistent fighting, even for the best at times,

1169
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 15: have proven to become an issue.

1170
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: The Great Alex Pereira was fighting over.

1171
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 15: And over and over and then he got beat and

1172
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 15: then he took nine months off, came back and fought

1173
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 15: the same guy and knocked him out.

1174
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: In the round.

1175
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 15: Right, So there is something to that theory that you

1176
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 15: can do it too much. I just don't know if

1177
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 15: it affects a guy like Morob.

1178
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: I think that illuminates the comments he made Dokamodo where

1179
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: he stopped you orating like he's and you saw him.

1180
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the videos where he

1181
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: had a pizza in his hand, he didn't need it,

1182
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: he kept smelling it, and then he's throwing cucumbers in

1183
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: his mouth because that's all he can eat for dinner.

1184
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is gonna work out for Morob.

1185
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm serious again, If this was anybody else, I'd

1186
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: be like, well, just put the belt on Yan today, right,

1187
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean again, former, it's not a new it's a

1188
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: former fucking champion. And if you've never seen it, I

1189
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: mean I'm maybe maybe our audience has I'm sure most

1190
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: of him, but like Jan beat the fuck out of

1191
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: Jose Aldo, Like this is not a fucking bum by

1192
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. If it was BC, if

1193
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: it was anybody else other than Morob, I would not

1194
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: hesitate to pick to pick Yan. It's just I feel

1195
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: like we're giving Morob a leash here because he's doing

1196
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: incredible things. But BC, he will quit when his biology

1197
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: fails him. Yes, there was years ago, there was a guy.

1198
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: He was not as good as Morob, but there was

1199
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: a guy years ago and the actually it is one

1200
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite Joe Rogan commentating moments, and I mean

1201
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: this sincerely, Josh. He was the original, the dentist Josh

1202
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: the dentist. Near thought a guy by the name of

1203
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Drew Thicket Drew Fickett before a time was kind of

1204
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 1: like the it guy or one of the it guys

1205
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: coming up in the sport and they choked out Josh

1206
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Near and at the time Rogan mix a comment He's like,

1207
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: the only way to beat this guy is to incapacitate him,

1208
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 1: Like there's no other way, Like you have to turn

1209
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: his biology off otherwise he is a terminator, and it

1210
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: just feels like that's what's going to happen to Morob,

1211
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: but like almost through self inflicted.

1212
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 4: Damage, you know what I mean.

1213
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not changing my pick or anything. I'm not

1214
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna pick against Morob until I have to, but I

1215
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: will absolutely admit I did not take this fully into

1216
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: account on Monday show.

1217
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: Well, look, I encourage everyone to check out my interview

1218
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: on the BCX because Morob, like I said three separate

1219
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: times without me mentioning it would just end a sentence

1220
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: with as long as I can get through this weight

1221
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: cut because I didn't expect it to be this hard.

1222
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: I also asked him, by the way, about because look,

1223
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: the closest he came to losing on this stretch was

1224
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: that Marlon Mori's fight four years ago. Look, I rewatched

1225
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: that for that in he got the shit kicked out

1226
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: of him for about three and a half minutes, bloodied, dropped,

1227
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: chased back and forth, pillared a post as Marie unleashed,

1228
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: and then somehow closed the round in top position on

1229
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: the ground doing heavy ground and pound, and then submitted

1230
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: them the next round. You just stopped him with strikes

1231
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: the next round, where you're just like if that situation

1232
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: where he got blitzed, he got completely lit up and

1233
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: he still couldn't get finished. You're right, he's his only

1234
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: enemy here. But you can see for yourself whether you

1235
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: believe the weight cut is catching up with him when

1236
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: we show you this clip. It's probably the only one

1237
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: from yesterday's press conference that got a little bit of attention.

1238
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: Here with the back and forth between Morob and Peter Young, I.

1239
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 16: Thought with him with one arm, he tried forty to

1240
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 16: nine tig downs.

1241
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 17: You are bad at this, bro, Stop making excuse?

1242
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: Please?

1243
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 3: No excuse me?

1244
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: Inside six what excuse me?

1245
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: Make?

1246
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 18: Tell me now?

1247
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna make excuse?

1248
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: When I'll repeat you again? Tell me now?

1249
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 10: Pleare more and more and more and more and more?

1250
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: Are you gonna make any excuse?

1251
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 10: More and more and more and more and more?

1252
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 14: Are you gonna make excuse at December sixth?

1253
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 17: Or no?

1254
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: Tell me now?

1255
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 4: Please? Do you have any injuries?

1256
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 19: Now?

1257
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 6: More?

1258
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: Ask more?

1259
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: Do you have any injuries?

1260
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 6: Now?

1261
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 16: Saturday we will see.

1262
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: Okay, question for you.

1263
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 18: Do you have any injury injuries?

1264
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: Now? You have injuries?

1265
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: Or no? Yes?

1266
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 10: Or no?

1267
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 14: I guess no, okay, I understand.

1268
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 17: Creator Do you have any injuries right now, Morale would

1269
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 17: like tonight.

1270
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: I understand it's.

1271
01:01:49,120 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 16: A base pressure, it's a bad pressure with yes, yeah, listen, watter, guys,

1272
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 16: I feel great this Saturday.

1273
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 17: You're gonna see me in the best shape of my life.

1274
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: Good luck. Uh Luke, we have breaking news here as

1275
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: we were watching that video relating the UFC three twenty

1276
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: three live way, and our correspondent, Luke Nosita has been

1277
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: watching closely, l il what's going on down there in Vegas?

1278
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 4: Uh So. Morob was the first one to weigh in.

1279
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 4: He made one thirty five.

1280
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 5: He gets off the scale and then like jumps in

1281
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 5: the air super high. He looked energized. He looked ready

1282
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 5: to go. He looked like that cut was no problem.

1283
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 5: Pantoja also weighed in right after him, made one twenty five.

1284
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 5: A few other guys weigh in, but those are the

1285
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 5: important ones.

1286
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: Damn damn, right, dude, Morob is a fucking animal.

1287
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it. All right, Well,

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Speaker 2: speaking of Pantosia, Luke, this Josh Van fight has been

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Speaker 2: heating up. I don't know if you saw the face

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Speaker 2: off between them where Van had the glasses, the red suit.

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Speaker 2: It there's not bad blood, but it's really turning into

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Speaker 2: a fight. We need to see. Does has the week

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Speaker 2: that has happened changed in all your belief of whether

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Speaker 2: josh Fan can pull this off on Sera?

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Speaker 1: Once again, I'm not changing my pick, but it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where it's like early in the week

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Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I feel good about my pick,

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Speaker 1: you know, reasonably speaking, and then everything that happens later

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Speaker 1: that week makes you go, I don't know. So for example,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we have the audio for it, but josh Van

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Speaker 1: basically admitting he doesn't do game plans at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was getting to that. We don't have the video,

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Speaker 2: but we we talked down Josh Emmett when he told

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Speaker 2: us that at the at the Service Diaries. Van told

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Speaker 2: me the same thing in my interview. He said, no

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Speaker 2: game plan. I'm gonna fight josh Van style. Is this

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Speaker 2: a mistake against someone as well rounded and precise as Pantogi.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what I would say. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's going to cost josh Van on Saturday, but it's

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Speaker 1: going to cost him sooner or later. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to fight at championship levels for very long

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Speaker 1: with no game plan and then expect to have enduring success.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. That's just it's absolutely not gonna happen.

1315
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of corners you can cut in MMA

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Speaker 1: B see. I mean, just think about how ludicrous it

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Speaker 1: is that these guys don't game plan. Josh Van it

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Speaker 1: were just it is very clear who he is. He

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Speaker 1: is in natural talent. I don't think anyone would dispute that.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think that very much. He's naturally his

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: natural aptitude for this is very high. He as we discussed,

1322
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: absorbs over six strikes per minute, lands over eight, meaning

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Speaker 1: he is absolutely right in the middle of the fray

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Speaker 1: the entire time. He does not have lights out takedown

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Speaker 1: the fence, but he's got very good scrambling. He is

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Speaker 1: a guy who just believes, like every young twenty four

1327
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Speaker 1: year old guy in the country, you know, it's all

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna work out, Like you just have this young confidence

1329
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, things just work out.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to do it raw dog, It'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we don't need condoms. We're just gonna figure

1332
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: it out and maybe the first time that happens, you're fine.

1333
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Speaker 1: Second third, maybe it doesn't happen bad for a while,

1334
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: but it only takes one time for that to really

1335
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Speaker 1: come undone. And I know, obviously he lost to Charles Johnson,

1336
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: and I'm saying that the championship level, like, let's be serious,

1337
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: you cannot have enduring success fighting for a UFC title

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01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: without consistent game planning. So I don't know if it's

1339
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna cost him against Pantojia, but if it does, like

1340
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: he just gets fucking run over because he's not planned

1341
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: for any of these scenarios. You're gonna look at that

1342
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: and be like, right, my friend, you have all the

1343
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: talent in the world, but he also has a lot

1344
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: of talent, and he has a game plan. These differences

1345
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: matter at the elite level. Significant degrees isn't too much.

1346
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: Too soon we're gonna find out. I can't wait for

1347
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: that fight. But if you are hoping that win or

1348
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 2: lose for the great Alexandre Pantosia, that is super fight

1349
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: with him and Morob is coming pants, as Jed Mischue

1350
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 2: calls him, not today, not so fast, my friend, here's

1351
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: Pantosia talking about it.

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01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 20: Well, you have a consider going up one thirty five

1353
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 20: and challenge Marib or something.

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01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 11: Maybe when Mirabi retire. I try to go another ballots,

1355
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 11: but Mirab is too good, you know. But I have

1356
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 11: a lot of respect for him. Me, my my team.

1357
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 11: Uh talking about that, but we need a lot of time.

1358
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 11: Do you understand that? Change my body to one thirty

1359
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 11: five and uh when to talk about the flyweight bentaweight

1360
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 11: divisions ten pounds a lot of difference.

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Speaker 2: So we will not be getting that Morob super fight

1362
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 2: at anytime soon. Loud quickly on Pantosia. One thing he told

1363
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: me was this, He said, I think I deserved consideration

1364
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: for pound from pound number one. He said, I don't

1365
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: think you can raise anyone currently above Islam. He thinks

1366
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: Islam at Walter Wait literally looks unbeatable. But Pantosia believes

1367
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 2: that he should be on the same line as Islam,

1368
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: Ilia and Morob, and he believes the four of them

1369
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: will eventually be remembered as a unit for elevating skill

1370
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: in UFC in recent years and taking this this craftsmanship

1371
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: to another level the last two years for Pantosi went

1372
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: from a self proclaimed brawler when he won the title

1373
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: against Morino to one of the top fighters in the world.

1374
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: Is that crazy talk or do you think he's onto something?

1375
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy talk. I mean he's ranked fourth, as

1376
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: I understand it on the pound for pound list? Is

1377
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: he not like he is? He just wants to be

1378
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: considered equal to those Yeah, it's not though not yet.

1379
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: But I mean that doesn't mean like again, the guys

1380
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: in the top five in the world an overall pound

1381
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: for pound, I think that is a very worthy and

1382
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: appropriate designation for an incredibly high achiever like Pantojia. But like,

1383
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: do I see his accomplishments on par with Morobs?

1384
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 4: No? I do not. I do not see that.

1385
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: All right, he has elevated his craft. Luke your favorite

1386
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: fighter on Saturday's main card, bogged in Goostkov. We were like, man,

1387
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: we need to talk about this guy on the show

1388
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: where maybe you said the exact opposite rate his fit

1389
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: here as a Bond villain.

1390
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: I will say, I do kind of dig the fit.

1391
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: He has a freshly shaved head, right, we could see

1392
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: it there. He's got the glasses. I don't quite know

1393
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: where he got him, but they do the job. The

1394
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: red tie looks long island. Luke what's the dumb ass movie?

1395
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Was it Agent forty seven or whatever the fuck you

1396
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about.

1397
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm not a big movie guy. I got no idea.

1398
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 4: He's too high.

1399
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a big bomb guy.

1400
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Come on, you know, wasn't there a guy who was

1401
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: bald like this, who was an assassin. Wasn't it called

1402
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: like Agent forty seven or something.

1403
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: I think you're referenced Joe Shan in Austin Polo.

1404
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Google on your Google Google agent Agent forty seven.

1405
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: It looks just like him. I swear to God. All right,

1406
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: google it. I want to do dig the Pepsi challenge.

1407
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: Currently drinking the PEPs Okay, yeah yeah, Agent forty seven. Yep,

1408
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: you're right, so.

1409
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is, which, actually, you know,

1410
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: I kind of respect that look.

1411
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: Not related to this at all. Have you seen the

1412
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 2: Diddy documentary on Netflix.

1413
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: Or No, dude, you are like, and I'm not exaggerating,

1414
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe the tenth person to be like, you have to

1415
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: watch the dude.

1416
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: I started it last night. It's pretty wild. I think

1417
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: they're still covering up the deeper connections to.

1418
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: The It turns out he's a real bad guy.

1419
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that the conspiracy theorist or right,

1420
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: but anyway wrong, wrong time for that.

1421
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 13: Luke.

1422
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: Finally to close real quick.

1423
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 5: Jed Mischue just texted me and said, it's from the

1424
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 5: movie hit Man Slash video game.

1425
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 4: That's what Guskav is stressed up at.

1426
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: I see, but this agent, it's it's hit Man Agent

1427
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: forty seven.

1428
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: Thank you to Jed Meshu for watching live. We love

1429
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: that look. I While I don't want you to ever

1430
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: be down on your luck in your career or facing charges.

1431
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: Well bit late for that.

1432
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: I would love if you came into a scandal and

1433
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: you had to hire a Meshue to represent you, like

1434
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: bring him out of retirement. You know what I mean?

1435
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 6: Dude?

1436
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,919
Speaker 1: What kind of crime would I have to be accused

1437
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: of to go that low?

1438
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I hope it burns in hell. Yeah, there

1439
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: we go. That'd be great. Luke to close here, Henry

1440
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: Studo will be taken on Peyton Talbot. I'm really excited

1441
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: about that fight. I want to get your take on

1442
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: his rant regarding ipokes from Media Day that actually led

1443
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: to him going the exact opposite and at the press

1444
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: conference and saying how Dana White's the greatest promoter of

1445
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: all time. But check this out.

1446
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 19: One question for me, I'm the ipode thing mancham Jason

1447
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 19: Herzog in your last fight. Obviously there's been an ipote

1448
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 19: problem in the UFC for a while. It's not the

1449
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 19: USC's fault, but more of the commissions. What is the

1450
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 19: solution you mentioned?

1451
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 9: I think everybody needs to man up, Dana White, the

1452
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 9: Nevada State Athletic Commission, the referees and just make fucking decision.

1453
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 8: Man.

1454
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 9: If you guys can do it, like dude, that's that's

1455
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 9: that's bulkit. If we're being worn in the back and

1456
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 9: all right, I'm gonna start taking out war. I'm gonna

1457
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 9: start sticking in the eye too. I get a warning like,

1458
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 9: that's that's not for Everybody needs to fucking man up

1459
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 9: and step up and create this, cre create this and

1460
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 9: make this thing official. Dude, somebody could lose an eye bisbying.

1461
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 9: I mean, how many other they do these users deformed

1462
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 9: for life?

1463
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 4: Drew.

1464
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 9: That sucks, you know what I'm saying, Like, dude, it

1465
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 9: sucks the one that happened to me. But too, man,

1466
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 9: it's head. There's a lot of people that have eye

1467
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 9: issues that you guys don't even know about you know

1468
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, So it starts here, and I think

1469
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 9: it needs to be immediate and if not mad, I

1470
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 9: think people need to be held accountable for that stuff.

1471
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 9: The FOSTA news a fuck I did too. Can you

1472
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 9: imagine that.

1473
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 7: Like, oh yeah, oh good job, you're a warrior.

1474
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 9: Oh okay, Well, who's gonna give you my iback? You

1475
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, Like, everybody needs to step up, everybody,

1476
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 9: including Dana White.

1477
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: That's one of the I gotta say very quickly. That

1478
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: is one of the few times I've ever heard him

1479
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: speak where I was like, I agree with every word,

1480
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: every single word.

1481
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: No cringe in that. And it's weird how he did

1482
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: come back and was like, by the way, we love

1483
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 2: Dana White here at the press conference, which I don't

1484
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: know if he felt like he had to, but I

1485
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: fully agree. And we'll get into aspinall and in a

1486
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: second here to break down further the ipoke thing. But

1487
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: Macy Barber officially makes weight, by the way, one hundred

1488
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds for her fight with Karine Silva,

1489
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 2: which was important giving her weight and medical issues in

1490
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: recent years. That is UFC three twenty three this Saturday,

1491
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,479
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Speaker 2: in MMA for topic number four. Heavyweight champion of the UFC,

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: Tom Aspinall gave his first interview following the no contest

1522
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: I poke from Surreal Gond that brought an end in

1523
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: the first round to their heavyweight title match. It was.

1524
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: It came just days after he posted a video that

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: was heavily criticized by the MMA Twitter crowd, who continually

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: pushes the agenda that Aspinall quit. Upon looking at this

1527
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: interview with Ariel, Aspinall would say that not only does

1528
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: he believe God is a cheater, he shares in the

1529
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 2: disappointment of the reaction of the fans of John Jones

1530
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: of u C CEO Dana White and Aspinall also really

1531
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: revealed he has been diagnosed with bilateral traumatic Brown syndrome,

1532
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: which contradicts Dana White's comments that there was no damage,

1533
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: and Aspinall also said he has not returned to training.

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01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: He may need surgery on both eyes, and a long

1535
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: layoff either way is likely, Luke, what is done is

1536
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 2: done here. But is there any way that Tom Aspinall

1537
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 2: can actually get a W in the court of public

1538
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: opinion moving forward? And does he deserve any of the

1539
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: criticism he has received for how he has handled something

1540
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: that was completely not his fault.

1541
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: This is the part I just don't understand. I don't

1542
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: have any issue whatsoever with him doing this interview with

1543
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Ariel right or with any other outlet. That's not the point.

1544
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: But the point is he made that video or excuse me,

1545
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I should say he did the interview the

1546
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: day the day after he did this long video where

1547
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: he walked through the park with glasses on and then

1548
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: gave like a medical update with medical information. And it's like,

1549
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: on the one hand, I do admire the transparency, and

1550
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,440
Speaker 1: I think that there's some value in having a transparent

1551
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: both sharing of information and you know, doing it at

1552
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: a reasonably steady clip. But at this point, it just

1553
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: feels like he is living to silence critics, and that

1554
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: to me, is not a strategy that ultimately can work

1555
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: or that you should really pursue. In other words, if

1556
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: you're going to put out the video, you didn't need

1557
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: to do the interview. Or conversely, if you're going to

1558
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: do the interview, you didn't need to put out the video.

1559
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: Like there's a way in which you can communicate these

1560
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: things and without having doubling and tripling down constantly going

1561
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: back to the well. And I feel like the fact

1562
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: that he's doing it seems to me, as I indicated,

1563
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: he's kind of responding to maybe lowest common denominator or

1564
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: criticisms and then be this act of doing it is

1565
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: creating fatigue and hearing from him. I mean, even if

1566
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: you have all of the truth on your side, BC,

1567
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: if you're trying to affect how you're perceived, there should

1568
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: be a comm's strategy that goes into it. And I

1569
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: don't think a calm strategy of just talking all the

1570
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: time is necessarily in his best interest at this point.

1571
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: Give us an update when there is one, and if

1572
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: it comes to a point BC where he has to

1573
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: relinquish the title, which is like crazy to fucking say,

1574
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: But if it comes to that point, then fine, we'll

1575
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: cross that bridge when we get there. But I feel

1576
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: like he's trying to fight a battle that, at least

1577
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: at the present moment, cannot be one with more information.

1578
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: He can only hold serve, So hold serve and wait

1579
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: to make a move down the road.

1580
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: I really think the worst thing he could have done

1581
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: was when he sort of like livestream that doctor's appointment

1582
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: right after where initially they said there wasn't long term

1583
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: damage and it allowed everyone who thought he quit to

1584
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: double down. Then you get the ill timed Waldo Cortes

1585
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,919
Speaker 2: a coast to fight where he fights through a bad eyepoke,

1586
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: gets a ko Is putting an eye patch on his clowning,

1587
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: Tom John's clowning. Tom Dane is not happy, and you

1588
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: have a fighter who, by the way, already missed a

1589
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 2: year at his prime when he got injured against Curtis

1590
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: Blades then came back whins. The interim title is not

1591
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: allowed to fight for the real one. It has to

1592
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: go through a multi years soap opera and then has

1593
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 2: this happened. It's I mean, it's bad luck. But the

1594
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: real question here is is he making his luck worse?

1595
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to him, what he

1596
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: said and hit that video he posted about Cyril gone,

1597
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: let's listen.

1598
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 7: Did you think he did it on purpose?

1599
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 4: So?

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 21: I think that when it initially happened, I didn't really

1601
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 21: think much of it. I thought, accidentally, I poke whatever.

1602
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 21: Look when I watched the fight back, that's when I

1603
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 21: really got the gist of what's going on.

1604
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 11: Guy.

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 21: I was trying to oulp my eyes out all the

1606
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 21: way through that round. Nearly every exchange that I could

1607
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 21: put him in danger. He had his fingers out pointing

1608
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 21: towards my eyes and.

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on him at the moment.

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 21: My thoughts on him.

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01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a big cheater. I think that.

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 21: Look at all his fights.

1613
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can only lose by talking Luke.

1614
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: Even though I feel bad for him, I mean, we've

1615
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: had a lot of people continue to dunk on him.

1616
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 2: One of those his friends of the program, Mike Perry.

1617
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: I want to know if you think this goes too.

1618
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 7: Far that Tom asking all things. John Jones was saying

1619
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 7: you know Tom's a quitter.

1620
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: It's like he blew up so big. He was the

1621
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: next big thing.

1622
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: He was the call like everyone was.

1623
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 15: Like, no, no, you're duck, you're ducking, blah blah blah.

1624
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: Everybody always got something to say.

1625
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 13: But you know, where are you at now?

1626
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna say this. If he needed to stop

1627
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 8: the fight, then he needed to stop the fight. That's fine,

1628
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 8: But afterwards lame like home Homeboy wanted to make a

1629
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 8: Netflix documentary about his about the aftermath on a shpoke right, dude.

1630
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 8: It was so cringe like, and his dad was talking

1631
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 8: for him every six hours.

1632
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 9: It was very bizarre with David Goggins say, life is hard,

1633
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 9: still prying about it.

1634
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: Be a man, do some push ups and go run

1635
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: some mile with the broken leg.

1636
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 4: Who gives them?

1637
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't David Goggins like an absentee father? I don't know.

1638
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke. All I know is every time

1639
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: my son does something that he shouldn't that's aggressive around

1640
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: the house, he goes, that was Goggin style. I'm like,

1641
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: please don't bring Goggin style into my house, son, Thank

1642
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: you very much. Lg Espall's got an idea though of

1643
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: how to fix fouls in mma we heard from Sahudo.

1644
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: Here's ultimately what Tom believes will change this.

1645
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 18: Well, I think should happen is if there's a foul,

1646
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 18: like in my case, double eyeouch was was what happened

1647
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 18: to me. So if you want the fight to carry

1648
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 18: on fairly, I'll I got free follow on him, So

1649
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 18: I'll double lie gouging Bach and then we still wouldn't

1650
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 18: restart the fight.

1651
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

1652
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that might be a tough one to

1653
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: pull off.

1654
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, souls continuing when you've got no eyesight an I

1655
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: for an eye, Luke, it's not going to work in

1656
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:18,839
Speaker 2: the EFC.

1657
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a thing. But I mean, I mean

1658
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: Tom's in a bad position. But I think you have

1659
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: to recognize, Okay, I'm in a bad position fighting with

1660
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: the internet. By just releasing more evidence that he considers

1661
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: to be exculpatory or exonerating or corroborating, depending on what

1662
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: the charge and the claim is, he thinks that this

1663
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: is doing him a favor. And again I'm not even

1664
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even disbelieving anything he's saying. You see, I'm

1665
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: not saying, oh, this claim is true, This claim is false.

1666
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even winging in on it. I am merely

1667
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: saying trying to beat the internet with like, oh, I'll

1668
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: just give them more info. I don't know. My read

1669
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: is that is not working, and so if it's not working,

1670
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: I think a different strategy is in order.

1671
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: All right, Let's say he needs surgery on one or

1672
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: both eyes. It feels like, no matter what, he's going

1673
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: to be out a while. So what is there? You know,

1674
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 2: we feel like the UFC might do a John Jones

1675
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: Poeton sort of one off heavyweight super fight. Does that

1676
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: mean if Waldo Cortesa Costa wins at UFC three twenty four,

1677
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 2: that him and Cyril Gon are going to fight for

1678
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: an interim title? I mean, what do you even do next?

1679
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: The Poeton up against Cyril Gon is interesting. You can

1680
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: always kind of pull that trigger too, if they made

1681
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: it for an interim title or even I don't know.

1682
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but probably that's enough. So I mean

1683
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: it just fucks everything up. Yeah, this is I mean,

1684
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: I will say this in Tom's defense, and one thing,

1685
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: he's really not hard. I mean again, there's only so

1686
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: much he can do, right, So it's a difficult situation.

1687
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: But like this idea that we're just going to abandon

1688
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: the idea that there's an improvement to glove design and

1689
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: glove geometry as like, oh, well, I guess that's settled.

1690
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: How the fuck is that settled? The Association of Boxing

1691
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: Commissions and the team of doctors they hire to conduct

1692
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: a study found that there was statistically significant amount of

1693
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: evidence that showed that the curved knuckle design meaningfully reduces ipokes.

1694
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: How are we not talking more about this? And I

1695
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: understand we've talked about it to some extent, but I'm

1696
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: simply saying, like, in Tom's defense, the people who can

1697
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: do something about this seem to not be interested in

1698
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: doing much about it, not so much just for the past,

1699
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: but for the future too, and that can contribute to

1700
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: his frustration. I share his frustration with that this idea

1701
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: that like, oh, there's really nothing we can do about it.

1702
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we can't eliminate it, But the idea

1703
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: that we can't do anything about it also seems equally untrue.

1704
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: I feel for him. It reminds me of when DC

1705
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 2: was feuding with John Jones initially, and everybody looked at

1706
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: DC as the villain and I'm like, I can't believe

1707
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: Tom Asmahal is getting villainized this aggressively, even though I

1708
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: don't necessarily like the amount of stuff he's putting out.

1709
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: I mean, we have another video we're not even going

1710
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: to play where he's just going off on MMA haters,

1711
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, just just turn off the socials,

1712
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 2: get healthy, earn it back in the cage, which is

1713
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 2: the only thing you can do. But they better do something.

1714
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 2: Association of Commissions, they got to do something. It's easy.

1715
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: You got to poke. You poke someone, you lose a point.

1716
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: That'll teach you not to do it. Okay, you come

1717
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 2: at somebody with the fingers out, you'll lose a point.

1718
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: That takes a while, Like you know, that's it. That's it.

1719
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: How did the NFL change how we hit quarterbacks by

1720
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: giving them like a strike zone? That's this big? You

1721
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: know what I mean? They instilled penalties. That's it. Okay,

1722
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: so handle your business. MMA. I do feel for Tom.

1723
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 2: This heavyweight division skin weirder and weirder. Maybe Poeton can

1724
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 2: climb that ladder. I mean, will they let John Jones

1725
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: back in and play? I don't know. Let's go to

1726
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: topic number five, which is Combat Sports News and notes

1727
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 2: a pope Perrie if you will of quick hitting topics

1728
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: that I want to get Luke's take on.

1729
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 6: So.

1730
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 2: In boxing, the WBC has authorized unified heavyweight champion Alexander

1731
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Usik to make a voluntary title defense, which he wants

1732
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: it to be against faded former champion Deontay Wilder now

1733
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: Shelley Finkel, who reps Wilder, said they would except the

1734
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: fight provided the offer is big enough, and both sides

1735
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: are reportedly negotiating. Per Dan Rayfield of Fight Freaks United,

1736
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: here's a quick video of Husick explaining his decision.

1737
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 1: You know I want to fight with Wilder.

1738
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 20: Why because it's very famous guy. This guy last ten

1739
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 20: to fifteen years. We'll be champion and very dangerous opponent.

1740
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: Because now, Luke, if you're yeah, if you're Usik and

1741
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: you want to have a resume that fifteen years from

1742
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: now means you fought everybody you could in your era

1743
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: and you cleaned him out. Then this is a good idea.

1744
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: But Luke, the old Wilder that once made out with

1745
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: his own statue, that guy ain't coming through that door.

1746
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Dude, Fuck this fight, thank you,

1747
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: Fuck this fight. I've seen the argument, and I'm sure

1748
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: you've seen it too. BC. It's like, well, hasn't Usik

1749
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: been having to do rematches and mandatories and he's kind

1750
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: of followed the script and now he's got a chance

1751
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: to go a little bit call a shot, so to speak.

1752
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm not unsympathetic to that, but this

1753
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: is this is pathetic. This is pathetic. The difference in

1754
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: their ability in twenty twenty six is vast and enormous.

1755
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: It's a fight that is just a money grab. It's

1756
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: all again talking about all the things wrong with boxing.

1757
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: This is a fight that is all wrong with boxing. BC.

1758
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: If it were the case that there was really nobody

1759
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 1: else for Usik to fight for like six months, they're injured,

1760
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: they're out, they're retired, like a weird moment in time,

1761
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: you'd be like, all right, well, I mean you got

1762
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: to get creative. Maybe under that circumstance I might feel

1763
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, but that's not what this is.

1764
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: This is just this guy has washed his ship and

1765
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: he's got a big name and I want an easy payday. Nah,

1766
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: fuck off. I don't want to pay for that. No,

1767
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: And I don't want to see it.

1768
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: Usik has never operated like this. He's always taken the

1769
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: toughest road. So it's like, I get what you're saying.

1770
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Ultimately, I don't want it. I

1771
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 2: want to see him against Moses Tama eventually, if he's

1772
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: gonna hang around. I wouldn't hate it if he fought

1773
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: Fabio Wardley, who picked up that belt that Husik was

1774
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: forced to vacate, and I don't love that matchup, But

1775
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: I also wouldn't hate it because it matters same thing

1776
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: with any other heavyweight he hasn't fought who gets a

1777
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 2: big win and puts himself in position. I don't need

1778
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 2: to see a trilogy with Joshua or Fury. But yeah, yeah,

1779
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: let's go to the next one. So we know that

1780
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: Morob Devalshpieli has a history of sitting in hot tubs

1781
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: with other fighters. He tweeted it himself. Can we show

1782
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: that tweet at the UFCPI that time where he caught

1783
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: up with two time former opponent Sean O'Malley and Luke

1784
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five. We had a bunch of dudes

1785
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: hanging out in the same sauna. Deal with it. It

1786
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: happens except for the fact that Piotr Jan ain't gonna

1787
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: deal with it to the level Luke that I had

1788
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: to make a phone call to our friends over at

1789
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: Quervo for something we like to call shots fire, And

1790
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: this shots fired moment is brought to you by Queerphone.

1791
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

1792
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: Here's a colorful back and forth from Thursday's press conference.

1793
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 17: You have plenty of people, and you have jacuzzi. I

1794
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 17: don't need to be there.

1795
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 11: Come on, pet just doesn't matter what after this.

1796
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 17: I feel like you should have girls in your jacuzzi

1797
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 17: instead of who you have.

1798
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 7: Yes, it's delivery, smile.

1799
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 17: If you like to be with jacuzzi with the boys,

1800
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,480
Speaker 17: it's up to you.

1801
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 14: What's what's the problem with the girls or boys together?

1802
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 14: It doesn't matter, bro, we can we can mix.

1803
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: Okay, look just boys.

1804
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 4: Video you can draw.

1805
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 17: All I saw is all you got his boys in yours?

1806
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 17: Oh you got his boys and yours is what I saw.

1807
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: The ship was dearish.

1808
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 17: Can you honestly I haven't even seen you with the

1809
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 17: girl before at all.

1810
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: Now, look to be fair, I would never share a

1811
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: hot tubber Jacuzzi with you out of fear of what

1812
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 2: your ass might do inside there. But uh, do you

1813
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: back pay on to Yah.

1814
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Here using homophobia as like a It's like, I mean,

1815
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Morob didn't have a comeback, you know

1816
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he was kind of stuck there.

1817
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, you know how to fight.

1818
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: We goes. They're gonna try any little needling thing just

1819
01:28:58,479 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: to get in your head.

1820
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: I don't need to come to Morob's defense here, but

1821
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 5: I feel like majority of his social media content has

1822
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 5: women in it, and like him and Jacuzzis with women,

1823
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 5: and there's definitely like a bunch of those videos.

1824
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, get married, Yeah that's he says. I'm my

1825
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: goal is to find a wife. That's my goals.

1826
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: Again, apparently in this world, the most disreputable thing you

1827
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: can be as gay. I suppose, I'm not really sure.

1828
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't speak for him. I'll just

1829
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: say the reason to watch this fight is not because

1830
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: of the personal rivalry between Morob and Yan, and I

1831
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 1: don't think it. My personal view is it doesn't necessarily

1832
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: add at a bunch there. But if you're Yon, you're

1833
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: up against I mean, if you're yon, You're up against

1834
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: the greatest bantam weight of all time. You're gonna try anything.

1835
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: I suppose to get an edge.

1836
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 2: It didn't seem to. I mean it did rattle. Robi

1837
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: ne have an answer, but yeah, we're good with that.

1838
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going. Also in news and Notes, Luke

1839
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,959
Speaker 2: Lancebagmeyer Boxing scene dot Com is the only one reporting

1840
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: this very interesting story that boxing champion Katie Taylor, the

1841
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: pound for pound queen alongside Clarisa Shields defend depending upon

1842
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: your opinion is in talks to box Ronda Roussi in

1843
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 2: twenty six what the hell are we doing here? First look,

1844
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,799
Speaker 2: we can throw to the very memorable, infamous shadow boxing

1845
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: videos of uh of head movement. There we go, Rnda,

1846
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: good old Honda Housie. And here's a quick update from

1847
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Katie Taylor, who was at the WBC convention and was

1848
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 2: pressed by the media about.

1849
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 21: This thanks saying she's an iconic figure herself and female sport,

1850
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 21: and she has an azing mentality. You don't you don't

1851
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 21: get the position that she's about a fantasi mind without

1852
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 21: a facity mentality.

1853
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 17: So it's just a very HRESSI fly for me.

1854
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 7: This is the first life hair advise.

1855
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 10: Well, this morning, I look at all that the headlines.

1856
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:49,520
Speaker 6: I'm I'm thinking, okay.

1857
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 21: I live on for this fight fight and lie, I'm five.

1858
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 11: I will be very excited for this flight as well.

1859
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Lucia, I have breaking news here for you.

1860
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: Does it involve hot tubs?

1861
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Coming in at one thirty two

1862
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: on his second attempt, which means that the WBC one

1863
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds title is not available to him.

1864
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: So if he defeats Foster, the title goes vacant. If

1865
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: if if obviously a Foster wins, then.

1866
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: He'll have you talking about Stephen Fulham Jr.

1867
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and so he now has to pay a fine

1868
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: tooth Fulton and the Commission.

1869
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 2: Good lord, well that happened, Luke, Okay, sorry, So, just

1870
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 2: to be fair on this round of rowsy news, er

1871
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 2: Hawani has consistently reported that she is in training for real,

1872
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: for a comeback of some kind. He had teased the

1873
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: idea that it could be and Ani may fight against

1874
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Gina Carano. Considering Krano recently, time timing wise was right

1875
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 2: to post training videos herself, So Luke, if it was

1876
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: some kind of rousey Karana White House super Fight. You

1877
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: would get it even with Rowsey's very troubling CTE comments

1878
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 2: she's made about getting concussed, you know, with a single punch.

1879
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: But what the frick is this boxing rumor?

1880
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know why the Karano fight is that much better.

1881
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that Krano is not the boxer

1882
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 1: or the probably even the puncher that Katie is okay,

1883
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: fair enough, but Krano's also real big relative to even

1884
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: to Rowsy. Like dude, you said that Rowsey's comments about

1885
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 1: her head trauma were troubling, I actually disagree. I think

1886
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: they're disqualifying. I think they're much more than troubling. What

1887
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: she has said. Let's be very clear about it. What

1888
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: she has said is that she had concussions and traumatic

1889
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: brain injuries during judo, starting in the single digits in

1890
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: terms of her age, that she obviously got more through

1891
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: her MMA career the two fights, to say nothing of

1892
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: whatever happened in training and everything else on her way

1893
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: out the door that she got them there. She said

1894
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: she partly had to exit MMA as a consequence of it,

1895
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: got more in WWE and also had to call it

1896
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: quits in WWE as a consequence I mean for other reasons,

1897
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: but partly that was a factor as well. So we

1898
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: have decades of potential head trauma, to the point where

1899
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,520
Speaker 1: she has said publicly it ended her ability to participate

1900
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: in professional MMA as well as the WWE. Now, these

1901
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: are not the only factors that played a role, but

1902
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: it was a significant contributing factor. On what planet would

1903
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: we ever license this person to ever have another contest

1904
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: where head trauma was involved? I don't even understand what

1905
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: the argument would be, to say nothing of the fact

1906
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: BC that what you're talking about is Katie fucking Taylor

1907
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: not a huge puncher per se, but doesn't need to

1908
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 1: be for that one to be a really bad Even if.

1909
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 2: This was an MMA fight and not a boxing match,

1910
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 2: I'd have issues with the concussion side of it, you

1911
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: know where you're like, Okay, well these ronic could just

1912
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 2: take her down and submit her. But if if this

1913
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 2: goes any further, and I questioned the validity of it,

1914
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: not on Lance's reporting, he's solid, but the idea that

1915
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: Katie was like, yeah, this is the first I've heard

1916
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 2: of it. Are the sides really negotiating? Is he getting

1917
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 2: bad info? I don't know. Obviously. When I think Netflix

1918
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Speaker 2: would jump at this. Yes, Netflix doesn't seem to care

1919
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Speaker 2: about whether fights are you know, sort of kosher in

1920
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: the true lane of boxing. They put fifty nine year

1921
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: old Mike Tyson out there in a real sanctioned fight,

1922
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Speaker 2: not an exhibition. That's why we had issues with it.

1923
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Speaker 2: Mostly a real sanctioned fight. They wanted to do Tank

1924
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Speaker 2: versus Jake, So yeah, I think they would jump at this.

1925
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Speaker 2: Could it fill a stadium, of course? But wow, Luke,

1926
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Speaker 2: she never had hands? Wow, what are we doing here?

1927
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: Is there a part of you that this is when

1928
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: the government regulates this shit. You can't just pluck two

1929
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: names out and be like, oh, make a fight. Like

1930
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: the whole point is the commission is supposed to be

1931
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Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, no. You have to be competitive fights

1932
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Speaker 1: and people who are ready appropriate weight classes, the whole

1933
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: nine yards. It just seems like there's like people inside

1934
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: the sport now who are like, oh, big name, big name,

1935
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: put it together, tip to tip, PC seriously put them together,

1936
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll just, you know, we'll just have a

1937
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: bigger fight because we have bigger names, And it's like, dude,

1938
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:12,959
Speaker 1: that's not how this shit works.

1939
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: Do you think Ronzo would do it, though, do you

1940
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: think Rondo would be thinking, Hey, if I can get

1941
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: ten million and you know, retire off of this, my

1942
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 2: kids don't have to worry. I'll take I'll take a

1943
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 2: one round knockout.

1944
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 1: Again. I don't know what she's thinking, but the state

1945
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: has a compelling interest in preventing this for sure.

1946
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: For sure. Quickly to close on this topic, Luke two

1947
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 2: other pieces of news. Natalia Silva will replace in Alexa Grosto,

1948
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: who pulled out of a UFC three twenty four in

1949
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: January in Las Vegas fight against rosnami Unis that, of course,

1950
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 2: is the first pl E in the UFC Paramount Era.

1951
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 2: I certainly love the fight, and you can argue it's

1952
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 2: an upgrade of sorts, But wasn't Natalia Silva in line

1953
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 2: to potentially challenge Valentino? Do you think that this and

1954
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:03,520
Speaker 2: out it means Valentina could face the winner of Amanda

1955
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 2: versus Kayla at UFC three twenty.

1956
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: I think she's keeping her options open, but also Silva

1957
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 1: not waiting around trying to, you know, affirm her place

1958
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: at the top. And honestly, if I'm rose, this is

1959
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: a tougher fight to me than Grosso at least the

1960
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: current state of Grosso. Anyway, Silva is not as accomplished,

1961
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: right she you know, wasn't a champion, but not yet anyway.

1962
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Speaker 1: I just think the current state of things like Silva

1963
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: to me is a tougher fight. So that's that fight

1964
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: actually got better. Usually it doesn't happen, right, So this one,

1965
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: to me got better, even.

1966
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Speaker 2: Though I did want to see where Grosso is at,

1967
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 2: where Rose is at in terms of them juggling losses recently.

1968
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 2: And to close, the twenty twenty six class of the

1969
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: International Boxing Hall of Fame was announced yesterday. Triple G

1970
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: Ganadi Glovkin, the great middleway champion from Kazakhstan, headlines the

1971
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 2: card alongside two great fighters but somewhat questionable choices in

1972
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 2: my opinion, in Antonio Tarvor and Nagel Ben of course,

1973
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 2: the father of Connor Ben. You also had Jackie Nava

1974
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: on the women's side, the great late referee Frank Cappuccino,

1975
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 2: the great late broadcaster Alex Wallow, and media member Kevin

1976
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 2: I only getting the call lt. Any thoughts on any

1977
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,839
Speaker 2: of these names going in on a class that's outside

1978
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 2: of Triple G kind of considered a bit weak.

1979
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: I guess I would say the following I only had

1980
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 1: a long tenure, right, Like, how long did he cover boxing?

1981
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 2: Probably twenty five years, right at least?

1982
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 1: Right, I think more than that.

1983
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you're right, probably closer to forty probably closer. Yeah, probably,

1984
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 2: i'd say thirty five years.

1985
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: It sounds about which means, dude, you might actually end

1986
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: up in that motherfucking Hall of Fame. Huh how about that?

1987
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, if he can get in, I mean, I'm

1988
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: not saying, you know, he didn't do it a long time,

1989
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 1: but like you know, you've been at this for almost

1990
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: twenty years, you're not that far, my friend.

1991
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll have to change my tolerance for muscular women,

1992
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,520
Speaker 2: but I'm with you on that completely, definitely. Okay.

1993
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: What I'll say is, if they actually do put you

1994
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: up for it, I'm gonna be like, I don't know

1995
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 1: if they you know, they treat it like a wedding,

1996
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: like if anyone hare has you know, objections, speak now forever,

1997
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: hold your piece. I'm gonna speak now.

1998
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 2: Yes, now, you'll also be holding your piece while you

1999
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: do that. I'm sure you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,

2000
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Those are our five topics. Quick

2001
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: update from Long Island Luke on the weigh in situation.

2002
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 5: For UFC, Bruno Fijeda missed. Wait, we're still waiting on

2003
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,799
Speaker 5: pyotr Yan. As far as the main event, Comaine is official,

2004
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 5: Josh van is in. Josh van is in one twenty

2005
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 5: four and a half. Pantojo was one twenty five Moreno

2006
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 5: did make one twenty five. For what it's worth, I

2007
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 5: know he said he would be the backup, but both

2008
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 5: guys made weight gold on Luke.

2009
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: Someone on my live chat said we should add my

2010
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Speaker 1: fart sound to the soundboard and what they said was yeah,

2011
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: and I said no, Yeah. I know they're like, well,

2012
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Speaker 1: we don't understand why, l il Ob Jackson and listen,

2013
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what they said. You know, there's

2014
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: not gonna hurt my feelings. And they said, you, instead

2015
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: of playing crickets when BC mikes a bad joke, you

2016
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: could just play the fart sounds over and over.

2017
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 5: I just think we're gonna lose more subscribers than we

2018
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Speaker 5: already do on a daily basis.

2019
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's trauma. That is induced trauma. A quick update

2020
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Speaker 2: going more or less for Morob?

2037
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Speaker 1: I'll go more. I'm always gonna go higher for that

2038
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Speaker 1: on Morob, even though it's a pretty high threshold. I'll

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Speaker 1: go more.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, speaking of Morob as well against Yan takedowns

2041
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Speaker 2: for Morob, eight and a half. He attempted forty nine

2042
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: the first time. Will he secure more or less than

2043
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: eight and a half takedowns?

2044
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: He might get eight in a round. I'll take the

2045
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: overall on that one as well.

2046
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, same question. But in the Coleman event, three

2047
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 2: and a half takedowns for the champion Alexandre Pantosia over

2048
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 2: five rounds against Josh Mann.

2049
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I'll take the under because some of that might just

2050
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: be back attacks, which they won't count as a takedown,

2051
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,879
Speaker 1: So I'll I'll take the under, okay.

2052
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 2: And also we have something called fight time, Luke, how

2053
01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 2: long will the fight last when we're talking about Guskov

2054
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Speaker 2: and yon Blahovich ten minutes and forty five seconds more

2055
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Speaker 2: or less that would be early the first minute in

2056
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Speaker 2: round three.

2057
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel. I'm gonna take the under.

2058
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2059
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Speaker 1: but Guskov just gets to work, and I think he'll

2060
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Speaker 2: our five topics here? Any other updates we should know

2075
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: about Payoter Yan coming in in that?

2076
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 4: Look?

2077
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 2: What how do we pronounce Yan's person name? People hate

2078
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,600
Speaker 2: when I say Payoder? Is it Payota?

2079
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 12: What is it?

2080
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: Peter Pyotr almost like you keep saying Poder. I think

2081
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 1: it's a little I think it's a little more curved.

2082
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 2: Pyotoer Pyotre Pyotr Yan.

2083
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm really not sure either, to be honest with you.

2084
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 2: One thirty five on the dot for the title fight Saturday,

2085
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 2: the rematch here. Okay, I'm fired up. I am fired

2086
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 2: up with that. All right, there we go. That's it.

2087
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 14: Uh.

2088
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Speaker 2: We have fan segments to close here, because every Friday

2089
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2090
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2091
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Speaker 2: a picture of your piece. Maybe send us some fan

2092
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Speaker 2: subs are dead wrong. So we start with the on

2093
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Speaker 2: Budsman portion of this show where we don't always get

2094
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 2: it right. Sometimes we got a dead wrong. But you

2095
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: better be on par you better have receipts, you better

2096
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 2: come original. This one's called wrong then wrong, all right.

2097
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: Samuel and Kevin reached out on this one. This is

2098
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 2: from good old Samuel at forty seven twenty two. Luke

2099
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 2: refers to Alexandre Alexandre Toporia as Ilia's younger brother, but

2100
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: it's actually the other way around. Alexandrea is one year

2101
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 2: older than Elia. It's an understandable mistake, with Ilia being

2102
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 2: the more experienced fighter, but we got to call you out, Luke.

2103
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 2: Are you taking that out?

2104
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: I'll take the l I did know that, but it's

2105
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: a bad habit of mine because that's how I first

2106
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: thought of him, and then someone else hiped me to it.

2107
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: But it's an L. It's an L.

2108
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 2: I'll take it, all right, I've already stood up over

2109
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 2: this L. But I'll take it one more time from

2110
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 2: Dan Taylor, Jonah, and Eric. But here's Taylor writing in

2111
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 2: the mango isn't a melon, BC. You can't hide your

2112
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 2: cucumber trauma here. Mangoes and melons aren't even in the

2113
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 2: same tax synomic order, making them just as distantly related

2114
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 2: as melons and pomegranates. You probably just haven't had a

2115
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 2: ripe one. Go to a Thai restaurant in August and

2116
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:14,879
Speaker 2: get mango sticky rice to experience true mango bliss.

2117
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: I was wrong.

2118
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: I have nothing against mangoes. But don't you dare try

2119
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 2: to push cucumbers or any melons or pickles on me,

2120
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 2: because I understand what a what a pickle truly is underneath?

2121
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: Do you eat any cevich at all?

2122
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: No savice?

2123
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: No, okay, anything cooked and acid? That is what I'm

2124
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: trying to get at anything anything.

2125
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. Look to be fair, right, okay,

2126
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 2: all right, it's great talking to you, though, I mean,

2127
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 2: it's great doing the show with you today.

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Speaker 1: All Right, nigger is an acid that's how it turns

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Speaker 1: cucumber into a pickle.

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01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I avoid that that that transformation.

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01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: Not exactly, they're different things, but it's a similar kind

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01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: of idea.

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01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a I don't like that, you know

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01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, you know, some people like the

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Speaker 2: the the warm but not the butterfly, Luke, I don't

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01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:04,959
Speaker 2: like either.

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01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Like, not that you would ever eat it again, but like,

2138
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 1: what's the grossest thing you've ever eaten? The sketchiest octopus?

2139
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Speaker 2: And then I threw up for like two hours after.

2140
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't eat octopus. They're incredibly smart and sentient beings.

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01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not protecting them, Luke, Well.

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01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 1: They are You ever seen my octopus? Teacher?

2143
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 2: No, because octopuses remind me too much of spiders with

2144
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm also against, Luke, So you know, I'm just I'm

2145
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 2: just telling you.

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01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 4: I'm got to stand up for octopus here. Grilled octopus

2147
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 4: is delicious.

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01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you do listen, Let's be honest about Long Island, Luke.

2149
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: Let's be honest about him. He would eat other people, right,

2150
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't he if it was legal?

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01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, soiling green, Luke, it's made out of people

2152
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 2: spoiler alert.

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01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like he would he would he would eat

2154
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 1: your cats and dogs. I feel like if it came to.

2155
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 4: It, you know.

2156
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 2: Also, Luke, I hate hate black licorice. Just that is

2157
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 2: just an evil.

2158
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Tast Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's many people

2159
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 1: who are going to.

2160
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: Defend old ladies love it.

2161
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 1: What was the candy in the eighties and nineties, juju something?

2162
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 7: What was it called jujubs?

2163
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: No juju beans, juju beans, And they would have they

2164
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: would have some of them that were good jujub's, Yeah,

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01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: and they would have some of them that were good,

2166
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: but they would have the black liquorice ones in there

2167
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: and they'd be like garbage.

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01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not into that, Luke. All right, thank you

2169
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 2: very much. Our final segment allows you to send in

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01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 2: videos of yourself making artwork, wearing tight T shirts, or

2171
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 2: frolicking with Saoul and his wife in Louisville. This one's

2172
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,640
Speaker 2: called fan Submissions.

2173
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 11: You've got mail fusures.

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01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 2: One of our male viewers is Jonathan, who says, I

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01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 2: wanted to take time to share this and say I've

2176
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 2: been a listener since at the beginning. Thank you for

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01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 2: all of the content and laughs. You guys help out

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01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 2: more people than you know. We are one. Wow, this

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01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 2: guy's a zero point one percenter listener of MK Luke.

2180
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 2: Look when they say we help them out more than that,

2181
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 2: we know what does he implying.

2182
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I except to say I appreciate the

2183
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: generosity and as well as the commitment to UH to

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01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: the program. That's that's absurd.

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01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Jonathan. You're more committed than some of

2186
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 2: the hosts. I mean, this is incredible. Thank you. All right.

2187
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 2: Our second one comes from Dez not Daz Dez, who says, Hey,

2188
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 2: Soup and Luke, Merry Christmas, boyos, great year. Just one

2189
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Christmas wish I have been leading into leading, I have

2190
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: leading into twenty twenty six. It's that we see a

2191
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 2: return of some of the all time great phrases, such

2192
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 2: as let he who is without sin cast the first

2193
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 2: stone have a great Christmas break. Can't wait for twenty six.

2194
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 2: Here's the video in question.

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01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 10: Dun dun dun, dun, dun, dun, dun dun dun dun, dun, dun,

2196
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 10: dun dun dun dun, dun, dom dun, dun, dun, dun,

2197
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 10: dum dun dum dum dum dum dum dundun dun dunk dum.

2198
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 4: Dude.

2199
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 2: I didn't even know we had a Christmas ornament? Is

2200
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:07,480
Speaker 2: that old?

2201
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: That's I think from the Gang Bang days.

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01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the r j Duncle Maker days. Wow. Shout

2203
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: out to the good buddy Jonathan or dead. Sorry that

2204
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 2: was dead. Appreciate that. Okay. Our final one comes from Wes,

2205
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 2: who says, BC n LT. While I appreciate your always

2206
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: animated coverage of combat, you got to admit that you

2207
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: guys are pretty cartoonish. Thus I made a couple Simpsons

2208
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: inspired MK memes. Keep up the mediocre work day one,

2209
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 2: donkin fellow wash dad? Here, what is it saying?

2210
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 6: Luke?

2211
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Zero days without explosive diary.

2212
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 5: I almost showed this to you pre show when you

2213
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 5: shared with us your bowel movements.

2214
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had some today. This was a lot. The

2215
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,839
Speaker 1: next one, please, Luke arriving late to the MK studio.

2216
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: That was the worst Amtrak ride. No, that was the

2217
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: worst d Amtrak ride so far. Oh yeah, and then

2218
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: here's BC what LT matches his dirty old man pervy energy.

2219
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: BC only likes to be pervy when he's the only

2220
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: PERV when anyone else matches it. He just turns it

2221
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: to a wallflower. All right, Donkey climax noises, nine to

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01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:24,759
Speaker 1: eleven jokes and elderly abuse.

2223
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 2: Shout out to all the nine to eleven fans out there, Luke, Yeah,

2224
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 2: that's wow.

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01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you on nine to eleven.

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01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 2: I can't wait September eleventh, can't wait. Those were fan

2227
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 2: submissions in this podcast has been presented to you by DraftKings. DraftKings.

2228
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 2: The Crown is.

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01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 1: Yours point of order, if I may, did we not

2230
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: settle on? We should say it out loud. We had

2231
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 1: promised to give a signed poster to the best card

2232
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 1: for the Thanksgiving Day episode, and I think we settled on. Well,

2233
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: let's bring Long Island. Look here, who did we set

2234
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: along Long Island.

2235
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 4: We're giving it to Rundom Cheeks.

2236
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 5: Joe, who had sent us the video of him sitting

2237
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 5: in the bomber jacket in the hot tub, took commitment,

2238
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 5: so we'll send him out a poster.

2239
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 4: Joe email Morning Coombat at gmail dot com.

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01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 2: Now, Luca's Joe la X marine or former marine. I

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01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 2: can't figure it out.

2242
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 1: Former never an.

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01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,719
Speaker 2: X Okay, okay. Shout out to Joe. From Rundom Cheeks

2244
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 2: Fame a big fan, big fan as well. Sign poster

2245
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 2: coming your way. Let us know what body part you

2246
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 2: want us to sign on it. Okay, thank you very much.

2247
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 11: LT.

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01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of our fantastic merch people can go to Morning

2249
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 2: Combat dot shop right now. The December exclusives from Average

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Speaker 2: Joe R. Romeiro are there. It is Masters of the

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01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:47,839
Speaker 2: Universe MK style, Get your T shirt, get your signed poster.

2252
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 2: A lot of Easter eggs in that design. As I mean,

2253
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 2: no one knows us better than Average Joe R. Mix

2254
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 2: and match colors by the way, evergreen items available, but

2255
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to hurry. As long as you get

2256
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 2: your orders in by December eleventh, you can get your

2257
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: stuff probably for Christmas, probably, okay, thank you. I don't

2258
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 2: know if it'll get there in time for Boxing day

2259
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 2: on the twenty six, so I have to call a

2260
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 2: Canuck and figure that out, Luke, real quickly. Who are

2261
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 2: your three favorite Canadians of all time?

2262
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 4: Go?

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01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. Bronsteader, well, great, Jordan Breen. Okay,

2264
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: all right, you know I can count, I mean all

2265
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 1: time figures. I suppose I'll throw Abron in there. I

2266
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:43,799
Speaker 1: like abron a lot and then for third Shaquille MAJORI

2267
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 1: oh God, Jesus, I'd rather just get about Mike Bone, right,

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01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: I do like Mike Bond. I don't know if I

2269
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 1: was like top three all time, I'm not sure. Do

2270
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: you go Saint Pierre? Do you go somebody else? I'm

2271
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 1: not sure about the number three slots?

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01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jazz Davisius you know a little little you know,

2273
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, who else combines the Lithuanian and k bec

2274
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 2: kwaf flavor like her? And I do?

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01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 17: Right?

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01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 2: It's great? Yeah, that is that, and this is this.

2277
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate all you folks. What else that I want to say?

2278
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 2: I think I want? Oh yeah, check me out, follow

2279
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 2: like and subscribe. Check out our YouTube channels. Check out

2280
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: the work that we put in right there, and also

2281
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 2: check me out Saturday Night PBC on Prime pay per View.

2282
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 2: You can also order through PPV dot com. It is

2283
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 2: Lamont Roach, Junior, Pitbull Cruise the PBC card at in

2284
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 2: San Antonio. All be on the call. And by the way,

2285
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to say. Luke Moranalo has been out of

2286
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:40,759
Speaker 2: action for about five six months with some mental challenges,

2287
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 2: and he's back in the lineup this Saturday, and you

2288
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 2: know the love we both have for him as a person,

2289
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: as a historical combat sports play by play guy. Abner

2290
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: Mars and I are so excited to be reunited with

2291
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: Moro this weekend, so check that out.

2292
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 1: The question is are you doing post interviews?

2293
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I will be doing post fight interviews. I'll be

2294
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 2: doing the DraftKings breakdowns. I will be calling the prelims

2295
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 2: as well, and the Ghost will be in the feature prelim.

2296
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 2: That's five pm Eastern on Amazon Prime. You do not

2297
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 2: need to be a Prime member, by the way, to

2298
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 2: order the pay per view or watch the free prelims.

2299
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 2: So check all that out. It's going to be good stuff.

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01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 4: LT.

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01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 2: Should we be checking you out Saturday night on your

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01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:25,719
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Yep.

2303
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: I'll have a watch along as well as a post

2304
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,719
Speaker 1: fight show and then some covers as well on Sunday.

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01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 2: All right, great stuff, Long Island. Look, it's been great

2306
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 2: to pod with you. I mean, hope I didn't put

2307
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 2: you on the spot too much with your boy Al.

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01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 4: Jerry, No you didn't. I mean that was cool. I

2309
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 4: wanted to talk to him, but thank you. I'm also

2310
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 4: doing a full card watch along, so.

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01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 5: Join me for the prelims before you join the Also

2312
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 5: got a new prop quiz drop in in about thirty

2313
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 5: five minutes. Got a GC versus New York Rick from Uncrowned,

2314
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 5: So go check that out.

2315
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Wow, Uncrowned. I see Connor Burks, right, Connor Burks.

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01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 18: Is it?

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01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:53:58,280 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 4: Connor Burk?

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01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah GC? Yeah?

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01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: What what is the CB?

2321
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 2: What's the origin of it?

2322
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 5: Georgia' Connor, Georgia, Connor, New York Rick?

2323
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 4: We all go by where we're from.

2324
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call you, you know, India, Franklin Luke.

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01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: You know this right?

2326
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah? There you go with that.

2327
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 2: Uh long, ol. Look do I need to apologize publicly

2328
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 2: for my crash out against Jose Young's because I still

2329
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 2: want to fistfight that guy, not not personally, just in

2330
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: the show.

2331
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 4: In the show that's up to you.

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01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 5: Did you see he left a comment on the last

2333
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 5: video and was like, BC, I'll see you in the

2334
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 5: parking lot.

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01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean it may come to that. My competitiveness rolled up.

2337
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 2: That's what it's like when I play basketball. That's why

2338
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 2: I had to retire.

2339
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:35,879
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're competitive.

2340
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 2: It is I just want it so bad, you know

2341
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 2: what I mean? It is what it is. But uh lt,

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Speaker 2: it's been great doing the show with you today. I

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Speaker 2: hope you have a great weekend and join the fight.

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Speaker 2: So we will be back Monday. Not in studio, right.

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Speaker 1: No, because well we normally we all are always in

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Speaker 1: studio on Mondays and especially AUF to pay per views.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of traffic, let's say, in the studio,

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Speaker 1: and unusual amount of traffic, so we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do it from home on Monday. But I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to miss that Amtrak ride, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I hear that. By the way, speaking of the chair

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Speaker 2: that we share, Pablo Toret of Pablo Terret finds out. Dude,

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Speaker 2: we already know that man is on fire lately, but

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Speaker 2: what he did to Congressman and NBA along Tom McMillan

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Speaker 2: with the Epstein Files. If people have not watched that episode, cool.

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Speaker 1: I am dying to see it. Everyone has told me

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Speaker 1: to see it and I just haven't had time to

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Speaker 1: do it yet.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit, folks, please check that out, Okay, please? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Myron Santo's just miswait. By the way, one forty seven

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Speaker 2: point five according to loss Luke for the UFC card

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Speaker 2: enjoy the fights this weekend, there's a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: Will be back Monday to break it all down for

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Speaker 2: Long Island. Luke for LT, it's your boy, b Sizzle.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Chris al Jerry for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: Take care of yourselves, we're out of here.