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Speaker 1: It's a La La Kent, motherfucker. We're back with a

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Speaker 1: brand new episode of my brand new podcast, Give them

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Speaker 1: La La hurry it Hello.

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Speaker 2: I know guess who.

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Speaker 1: Guess who it's Jess, just like a Walter. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what a freaking amazing weekend.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about it because I haven't heard about it yet.

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Speaker 1: I just live for ocean. Kent. You have no idea,

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Speaker 1: Like you do have an idea because you're here every day, right,

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Speaker 1: But my daughter is a baby genius. That's just period.

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Speaker 1: No one can argue with me. I'll say to her, like,

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Speaker 1: I started doing this thing where I'm like, mama and

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Speaker 1: I point at myself, loves ocean, and then I point

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Speaker 1: at her. So now every time I say mama loves

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Speaker 1: she points at herself, or she'll point at me and

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Speaker 1: then point at herself. When I'm like, it's the cutest thing.

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Speaker 1: She shows me that she's one.

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Speaker 2: Oh she dies.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I haven't seen that yet. I know she waves

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Speaker 1: at everybody. She waves at everyone, and when people don't

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Speaker 1: wave back, I want to fucking jump that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wave to my child, Wave to my baby. Not

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Speaker 2: skinny but not hat fat. Posted on her story, a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago and she was recording her son

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Speaker 2: waving to someone walking by, and she said in the

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Speaker 2: in the video, she's like, look at him, he's waving.

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Speaker 2: Wave back, wave back, don't be a bitch. Don't be

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Speaker 2: a bitch, to be a bitch. And then the person

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Speaker 2: he's walking and she's like, okay, there's a bitch right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you bitch. Yeah, wave back to my child. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when people don't wave back, I number one want

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Speaker 1: to cut them, and number two I wave back to ocean.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, don't you worry. Mama's always got you. That's

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Speaker 1: so cute. Yeah. So we we went to Teddy Mellencamp's

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Speaker 1: daughter's birthday. Okay, she turned two. Uh, Stacy and Bea

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Speaker 1: were there with Hartford. I met a bunch of cool moms,

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Speaker 1: you did. I met a bunch of cool moms really,

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Speaker 2: Cool moms are a vibe, you know, nothing hotter than

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Speaker 2: just like a parent, right, who's like doing the parent job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that balls deep in it. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: we were already talking about preschool and Stasse texted me

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning. The party was on Saturday, bright and early.

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Speaker 1: She was like, what the fuck do we do about this?

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Speaker 1: We have to start schmoozing. Yeah, I said two things.

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Speaker 1: I have been in an environment for so many years

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Speaker 1: where the facade and materialistic things were a priority. I

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Speaker 1: don't want it anymore. I don't like it. I didn't

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Speaker 1: like it then. Contrary, but what about the time you

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Speaker 1: said blow jobs our paygs? I got it all right,

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Speaker 1: shock value. Yeah, I don't want it, didn't care about

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Speaker 1: it fucking then. I don't care about it now. My

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Speaker 1: two top priorities that I told Stossy one, I want

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Speaker 1: my kid to have the best time ever. Want her

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Speaker 1: to be around kids. I want her to be stimulated,

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Speaker 1: I want her to be safe. The second is I

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Speaker 1: want my kid around Hartford. I grew up with my

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Speaker 1: mom's best friends having babies, and their babies were my

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Speaker 1: best friends. Like, that is priority to me. So wherever

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Speaker 1: Hartford is going, where do I sign up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, do you think all of your babies will

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Speaker 2: go like your crew, all the kids will go in

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Speaker 2: Hartford and Ocean because they seem to be No.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that's hard with Sheena is she

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Speaker 1: her replace in Palm Springs. She travels like she lives

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Speaker 1: such a fun, fun life. But what's hard is like

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Speaker 1: I always know that she's constantly on the move. So

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Speaker 1: obviously when it comes, I'll talk to Brittany, I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Sheena. But it gets hard, like we signed me

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Speaker 1: brittain Stas signed the girls and cruise up for baby

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Speaker 1: sensory classes on Wednesdays, and it's like mommy and me

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Speaker 1: and I knew she no couldn't do it because she's

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Speaker 1: spending her time in San Diego right now. Oh you know,

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Speaker 1: so I will venture into like where are we going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is a good point you had, so

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Speaker 2: that was important to you. You have who's still I

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Speaker 2: think your best friend, someone that you went to like

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, see, none of them. I had two of.

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Speaker 2: Them really, and you're still friends with both.

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Speaker 1: Of them, the best of friends. So that's important. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like they know every like the way I react to things.

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh okay, that's because this happened when she

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Speaker 1: they know every Woody get a heartbreak, They've been there

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Speaker 1: for it all. Like things that I would never talk

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want that for my baby. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, Stossy and I are very similar in the

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Speaker 1: seat of my pants, like I need to know, Like

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Speaker 1: if you tell me we're linking up Wednesday, November two

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Speaker 1: at eleven, I will be there at ten fifty five, yep.

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Speaker 1: Where Yeah it's on my calendar, Yeah it is. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Wait, but let me go back to when you said schmoozing.

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Speaker 2: You're like you said, Stacy said something like to you

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Speaker 2: about we need to be schmoozing, and you were like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not explain that a little more, because do you mean, like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to send my kid to like this

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Speaker 2: for a Gucci bag when she's five, or like, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: Or was it this is what I mean by that? Okay,

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Speaker 1: lot of listeners who like it strange to me too.

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Speaker 1: I come from fucking Utah. You go to the public

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Speaker 1: about it, Like that's just your school. LA is so different.

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Speaker 1: There's amazing public schools, charter schools, private schools, but each one.

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Speaker 1: Not so much the public school because just based off

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Speaker 1: live in the neighborhood. Yeah, but private schools are insane

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Speaker 1: to get into. And I was talking to moms even

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Speaker 1: is when you start, wow for preschool, like start the

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Speaker 1: process of schmoozing because that sets up their entire So

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Speaker 1: it's like politics, one hundred percent. It is politics. And

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Speaker 1: Sazzy and I looked at each other. We have plenty

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Speaker 1: of time. Hello, oceans turning one. Hartford will be a year.

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Speaker 2: And a half in June, Like it's here, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: I'm not about that life.

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of a lot of parents that I

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Speaker 1: could just tell it was social hour for moms. Motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: I got a job, right, I got a job. Like

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Speaker 1: I if I'm taking Ocean to preschool, it's because I

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Speaker 1: need to go to work. I don't have time to

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Speaker 1: like show off my newest birken bag. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: have time to talk to about the luncheon that I

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Speaker 2: The dubb little charity Like, No.

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Speaker 1: I don't I work during the day. You're a working mom, correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And at this point in time, I'm Ocean's provider. The

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Speaker 1: only me, and I'm providing, right, So I can't do

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Speaker 1: the whole like my kid goes here because it's so

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Speaker 2: Right, and because it's like and you can't spend because

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Speaker 2: it probably is the way that you're saying. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's why I asked how it works. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: it's almost a full time job getting your kid into

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Speaker 2: half and you're scheduling these luncheons and I need to

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Speaker 2: know where to go to talk to these ladies. That's

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Speaker 2: like a full time job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some and some of the moms start preschool

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Speaker 1: at like two or three. Okay. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not ready to send her to preschool at that age, right,

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Speaker 1: four is good. I don't want her gone every day.

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Speaker 1: fine for a few hours. But like I mostly work

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Speaker 1: I feel like hot. I know it's a good vibe

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Speaker 1: So it's just all of these these bridges that I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: in La, no, you're crossing them now.

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Speaker 2: Because it's like pressure to feel like you have to start. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 2: can I tell you how much it is for this preschool?

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Speaker 2: I'm dying to know? Actually, preschool two days a week?

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Speaker 2: Let me yes, let me guess, Let me guess.

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Speaker 1: Year, yearly? Jesus five thousand dollars, sixteen thousand dollars. If

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Speaker 1: I want to send Ocean to this preschool, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: A year, yeah, oh my god, double that. And that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever thought about homeschooling? Were you homeschooled

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Speaker 2: and the younger did you go to preschool?

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Speaker 1: I did go to preschool. I went to Discovery Q.

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Speaker 2: I was homeschooled for preschool, and I entered kindergarten knowing

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Speaker 2: light your ahead, Damn, light years ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think most people send kids to preschool for just

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Speaker 1: to like get them interacting with other kids, right, But

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Speaker 1: I want Ocean to be the same way, Like I

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Speaker 2: Granted, my mom and all of her friends did it,

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Speaker 2: do our preschool until certain time and then we'd go play.

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Speaker 2: But it makes sense if you're like a mom and

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Speaker 2: send them to something that it's like, well, I want

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Speaker 2: them to socialize, right, I get that.

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Speaker 1: I get that an ocean will have a sibling one day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll make sure of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I I would prefer to not have

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Speaker 1: a man involved, like I'm not opposed to like finding

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Speaker 1: a sperm donor. Yeah you know. Yeah, so when that

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Speaker 1: So for me, if that time comes and I haven't

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Speaker 2: Him secretly, not so secretly anymore, Okay, you know, then.

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Speaker 4: and then it also went to a podcast fore, but

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00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: it was way before a podcasts were or are what

431
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: they are now.

432
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the first time we met was actually on camera. Yeah,

433
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: so we've actually he made a YouTube video out of

434
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: it a couple of years time, and it took tok

435
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 3: and we got a lot of mileage out of it.

436
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, so we have like the moment we met

437
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: each other for the very first time on cameras. It's

438
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 3: kind of cool. We were hosting the after show for

439
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: America's Got Talent, which is the weirdest thing in the

440
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: world that did not even after show. But we were

441
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: friends for like the first five months and then eventually

442
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: this randomly started dating and we're getting married now this

443
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: summer or so. It's been a wild, wild ride.

444
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: I mean, congratulations, that is thank you amazing. And you know,

445
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: I always wonder, like how how it is to work

446
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: with your partner, Like, obviously you guys are a force

447
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: as a couple, but you're a force individually as well.

448
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: How does that dynamic work? How do you balance you know,

449
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: your gigs on top of doing podcasts, hosting, and then

450
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: like shutting it down when you guys are like, hey,

451
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: now here we are as a couple.

452
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 4: Oh wait, we're supposed to shut down.

453
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: Are supposed to shut it down?

454
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: No? Yeah, I think I think for us, And that's

455
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: kind of what the whole premise of our podcast, Confessor

456
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: Mess is, Like, it's people submitting their secrets and their confessions.

457
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: And years ago, it actually started with just the two

458
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: of us and we sat based face and naked on

459
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 4: the bed together. Yeah, and we kind of confessed our

460
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: deepest desires, our fears, things that we thought we would

461
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: be judged for.

462
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: Person back in our relationship. Yeah, because I'm about nine

463
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: years older than he is, and I'm I'm actually the

464
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: first person he's ever gone on a date with. And yeah,

465
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: and we're getting married and we've been to get together

466
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: almost ten years now.

467
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: And when we met, I was in the closet so

468
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 4: my father's a pastor, he's retired now, and the mom's Jamaica.

469
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 4: So there was a lot of layers to it, but

470
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 4: like we confess those things to each other and when

471
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 4: we talk about like how we work together, because a

472
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 4: lot of people want to know, like, oh, how do

473
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 4: you guys work together? And like shut it down and

474
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 4: do all these things. And I think for us, we're

475
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: each other's biggest fans. I know that sounds corny and

476
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: geez what we really are. And we're both hosts, like

477
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 4: we we aren't like hosts we're trying to be actors

478
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: or hosts. We're trying to be models or something else.

479
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: We're I think we also respect each other's career, yeah,

480
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: careers and talent. Like we literally he's done things I've

481
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: never done. I've done things he's never done.

482
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we kind of bring up and there's no jealousy.

483
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: There's no jealousy.

484
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: There's some moments in moments I think I struggle with

485
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 3: it a little bit more than he does sometimes, you know,

486
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: just it's not it. I don't know if it's jealousy.

487
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 3: It's it's almost like, you know, I see him get

488
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: an opportunity, I'm excited for him. I'm so proud of him,

489
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: and I don't want his opportunity. I don't want to

490
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: take something from him. But then I have that thought

491
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: in the back of my mind that I think is

492
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: pretty common. But then I'm kind of like, when's my

493
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: next turn? Because you know this industry, it's like you're

494
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: always waiting for the next opportunity. Every time you work

495
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: a job, you're you're on the top of the mountain.

496
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: You feel like you're like like like ruling the world,

497
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: and then then what the next thing?

498
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's someone always sitting in the pocket ready

499
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: to take your place always, right.

500
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you constantly feel like you're replaceable. I don't think

501
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: I get jealous on my end just because.

502
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: Or you're a better human, healthyware.

503
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: But I think for me and I think this is

504
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 4: why we work too, is when he does have those moments.

505
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm very much in the mentality of what's for you

506
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: as for you, And so anytime we get an opportunity

507
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: or don't get an opportunity, it really is, yeah, you

508
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 4: might not have gotten this, or I might have gotten this,

509
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: or you might have gotten this, but that just means

510
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 4: it wasn't meant for me or it wasn't meant for you.

511
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: And we've also just been through so much. I remember

512
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: there was a time I had a national talk show

513
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: on Hollywood to Stay Alive on Fox years ago, and

514
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: while I was hosting a national daily talk show, he

515
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: was also working on stuff and he was doing a

516
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: red carpet or something, and he usually would hire a

517
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: camera operator or a camera and a sound person.

518
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: I would hire no when I was broke. I would

519
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: have my best friend, but you didn't get any money, no.

520
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: Here, And one time it fell through, and so I

521
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: went and I was his camera and a sound operator

522
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: on a red carpet and its so many people we

523
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: ran into We're like, wait, a j what are you doing?

524
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: Like why do you have a headset on? And why

525
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: are you like holding a camera tripod? Because he needed

526
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: me to And that morning, I'm hosting a national talk show,

527
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: and that evening I'm on a red carpet in Westwood

528
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: helping him out. But then also on the flip side,

529
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: I'll be hosting you know, red carp for like the

530
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: Golden Globes, and I'm like, hey, Eil mel, I need

531
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: a picture of Lady Gaga. And he comes and takes

532
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: a picture of lady like there was a epic photo.

533
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: By the way, It's like five seconds to get that shot.

534
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: It was so very super crisp and clear.

535
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: Like he does a talent in itself.

536
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: He does my social media for me on all these

537
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 3: big red carpets I do and I interviewed the biggest

538
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: celebrities in the world, and he's right there by my

539
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: side posting on Instagram for me. So like, I think

540
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: that we don't have too much ego. Ego doesn't get

541
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: in the way right there to help each other.

542
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't seem that way. And it seems like also,

543
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: you guys have have done something that many people try

544
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: to do, which is take their career and their relationship

545
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: and blend it into one and make it freaking work

546
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: and be successful. Because that that is not easy. It

547
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: usually is a demise in people's relationships when they start

548
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: blending the two. You guys have done. You've conquered the impossible,

549
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. And I think it's the

550
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: ego that you put aside, right, I mean, help me.

551
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, part of it. I think when you look at

552
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: like reality shows, I know you're in the reality space

553
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: and like we look reality shows. Sometimes when a relationship

554
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: goes on reality show, you're like, oh God, it's not

555
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: gonna last, especially marriages and things. But I think for

556
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: us one, we're very particular. Like on our podcast, we

557
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: reveal a lot, like we have no filter probably, but

558
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: we still know like their secrets and things that we

559
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: have revealed. But there's so much that people don't know

560
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: about us, but people relate to us because we are

561
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: telling more than a lot of people tell. We're also

562
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: still we have our private things we keep with each other,

563
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 4: and I think the reason why it works is because

564
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: we do have this and maybe it's because we posted

565
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: together and been around each other for so long that

566
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: we have this uh rapport with each other and this trust.

567
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: With each other and understanding, right yeah, and what's just

568
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: for us? Yeah, which makes me think that we're low

569
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: key kind of like wild because the stuff that we

570
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: do tell on our podcast is kind of insane. So

571
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, we're keeping secrets that people don't know about

572
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: and they will never know about. And I think that

573
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: we didn't seek it out. We we were together for

574
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: almost eight years before we work together on camera.

575
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Wow, So how long have you been together in total

576
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: then nine and a half almost.

577
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 3: Ten years now.

578
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we met in the first time we met oi

579
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: camera was May twenty twelve, and then we started dating

580
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: in September of twenty twelve after I came out.

581
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: And so I think our thing was so many of his,

582
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: his followers or fans or supporters and mine separately, would

583
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: see us pop up on each other's social media and

584
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: they were always like, I want to see more of

585
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: you guys together.

586
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

587
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: And then he had a YouTube channel for a while

588
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: and it still does, but that it was just pretty solo.

589
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: And then he put up a video of us together.

590
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: I think it was like a boyfriend challenge or a

591
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: muckbong or like one of those like couples videos. We

592
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: never we have never none. We talked about it, we

593
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: did it the boyfriend question, the boyfriend boyfriend tag, and

594
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: it did really well and we're like, huh. And then

595
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: we put a couple of pictures up on Instagram like

596
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: it did really well. And then I remember a few

597
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: years ago we walked the red carpet at the Billboard

598
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: Music Awards together.

599
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: God, you guys are so fabulous. I keep telling me I.

600
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Was hosting the red carpet for Dick Clark and they

601
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: produced a show and I'd done it for many years,

602
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: and I said, I'm going to have Emil walk the

603
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: carpet with me this year. I've never done it, and

604
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: he at the time just put in perspective, like he says,

605
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: he hosted like major red carpets all the time, so

606
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: he's walked the carpet, he's been photographed.

607
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: By getting all these things for me. I was hosting

608
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: for Entertainment News Channel, but I was also still a

609
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: server at a restaurant, and so I was kind of like, ah,

610
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: I was scared. So while he was prepping and getting

611
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: ready for the show, I went to because Billboard Musical

612
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: Words at the time was still in Vegas. Yeah, I

613
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: went to the FedEx Kinko's and whatever hotel we were

614
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: staying at. I think it was like New York, New York,

615
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: and I went and printed out my name on little strips,

616
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: so just in case photographers didn't know who I was.

617
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: I was like prepared to hate it to them because

618
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: I was like, you know who he is, I don't

619
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: know who I am.

620
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then I picked out I got him

621
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: in a really like sexy black like suit with like

622
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: a mesh like tank top underneath. So I was like,

623
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: you're hot, let's show it off. And we walked out there.

624
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: He was so nervous, and I remember walking out there

625
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: and I'm wearing like this like dope like linen like suit,

626
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: and I was working with Erica Jane. We're coasting that

627
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: together with a couple other people, and I said, grab

628
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: my hand and when I when I wake at you,

629
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: lean in and give me a kiss, because I'm like,

630
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: this is what the pop rozi, the press, They're going

631
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: to love this, right, So he does, he gives me

632
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: a kiss. That picture went everywhere. It was featured in

633
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: so many different outlets. And the next year Billboard Music

634
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: Awards were doing their promos for like the New Show,

635
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: and their whole theme for the promo is love is

636
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: in the Air, and it shows like couples from past

637
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: Billboard Music Awards and it was Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton,

638
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: John Legend and Chrissy Teakan and a meal at me.

639
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: You've made it, I know, and we're like.

640
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: Wait, what, Like that's that's wild. Yeah, So that was

641
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: sort of our like because that's a queer person if

642
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: you kind of come out a lot, especially if you're

643
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: in like a certain industry, like you come out over

644
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: and over and over again. And we've kind of feel

645
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: like that was like another coming out for us, and

646
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: from that point forward, like let's just do stuff together,

647
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: not being afraid and just go yeah.

648
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Well, okay, So, aj, when when did you come out?

649
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: I've been out. Gosh, I've been out for twenty two

650
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: years almost.

651
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: You're from like a little town right, Ohio.

652
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: Down Ohio?

653
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, Ohio. So were you living in la when

654
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: when you came out or no?

655
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: I No, I was still in college. So I was

656
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: a sophomore at the University of Toledo at the time.

657
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: I had gone there actually to run track, got sort

658
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: of overwhelmed by it all, and I ended up playing

659
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: volleyball in college for two years. And my sophomore year

660
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: I actually came out at the college. And this is

661
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: so funny. Do you know Jonathan Bennett. I'm sure you do. Yes,

662
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: Jonathan Bennett, the actor. So yeah, mean girls, And yeah,

663
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: he's getting married to our friend James next month.

664
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

665
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: So Jonathan and I were friends in high school.

666
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

667
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: And Jonathan, Yeah, Jonathan actually was good friends with my

668
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 3: cousin Betsy. Betsy it's a very Ohio name, and we

669
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: were hanging out at her graduation party. She's a year

670
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: Olderly he's like, oh, your cousin AJ is gay, by

671
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: the way, and she's like, no, he's not, and he's like, yeah,

672
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: he is. And I was like and he clocked me totally.

673
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: And he ended up being one of my very first

674
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: friends ever. And so he and his group of friends

675
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: sort of took me under their wing and we became friends.

676
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: When I was, you know, a high school going into college.

677
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: I was about nineteen twenty years old when I actually

678
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: really came out, and so, yeah, so I came out,

679
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: then dropped out of college for a couple of years

680
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: because I really just was struggling with it and my

681
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: family wasn't really that cool with it, and I kind

682
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: of went into a pretty deep depression for a little bit,

683
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: but ended up getting back into college, transferred to Ohio State,

684
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: graduated from there, and then as soon as I did that,

685
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: I moved to New York for a year. Then I

686
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: moved out here fifteen years ago.

687
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I know when I asked these questions,

688
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I feel like it's such a and I'm not minimizing

689
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: it in my mind because I grew up in Utah

690
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: and most people don't know this. We have one of

691
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: the largest gay pride parades per capitat. It is in

692
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Salt Lake, which was like a very moment for me,

693
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, coming from Utah. And so when people ask

694
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: these questions, I'm like, I feel like it's so dated

695
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: to still be talking about this being a thing. And

696
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: then I feel like we still have to have the

697
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: conversation because you're talking about your family struggled with it.

698
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I've had friends and their families struggle with it. Emil,

699
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: you're from a family, your father's a pastor. Your mother,

700
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: I believe you said, is Jamaican and aj was you

701
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: know the first that was that your first love, your

702
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: only love, and it was when you came out, Like

703
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: what was that like it?

704
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: And you know another before and before he kind of

705
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: or I don't know if it was you might have

706
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: we might have done the boyfriend tag. And then after

707
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: we did the boyfriend tag on my channel, people were

708
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: kind of asking for the coming out story and so

709
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: I did, like the video explain my coming out story,

710
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: and I think for me, it was definitely difficult because

711
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: I just have a super religious family, and I was

712
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: terrified and I was honestly prepared to just live in

713
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: the closet for my whole life because there's just so

714
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: many layers of feeling like you're going to hell, feeling

715
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: like you're being just like was the family going to think?

716
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: Like all these different things. And the network that we

717
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: met on, I actually wanted to work behind the scenes,

718
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: and they put me in front of the camera as

719
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: a host, but I was repaired again to not even

720
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: though I love being in front of the camera, I

721
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: love entertaining. I was prepared to just kind of live

722
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: in the shadows because I was so afraid of presenting myself,

723
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: Like if you watch some of the earlier videos for

724
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: the first few years.

725
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: So awkward.

726
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: I was constantly thinking about, Okay, what am I doing

727
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: with my hands? Like if I'm talking, like I want

728
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: to make sure I'm talking the straight way, and like

729
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: looking at It's just so many different things that are

730
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: going through your head.

731
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: I've seen throwbacks of you versus like how you are

732
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: yeah today, and there is a huge difference.

733
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: It's wild. Like I was so I was so afraid

734
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: to be who I actually am and just whenever you

735
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: live in this space of inauthenticity, I think one people

736
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: can read that and then once you truly just because

737
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 4: regardless of I think, I don't think coming out is dated.

738
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: And I only say that because there's so many people

739
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: who are not living in la or a.

740
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: Big stiene what I mean.

741
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 4: They still need to hear these stories. They need to

742
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: hear how we navigated this, because it's so easy to say, oh,

743
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: we come such a long way, when there's still kids

744
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: who are struggling with this and who need to have

745
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: somebody who look up to or hear a story to say, oh,

746
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: maybe if I take this router, I see how A

747
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: mill did it or how aj did it.

748
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 3: This gives me hope because for every like it's great

749
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: to see shows like Euphoria and Saved by the Belt.

750
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: The way they handled Josie Toto's story as a transgender

751
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: woman as an actress is really beautiful and it seems

752
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: like they just kind of like, I love it. It's

753
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: great that like this younger generation will be like the

754
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: kind of like brush past it and it is one

755
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: of this. It doesn't need to be a big thing.

756
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: But the reality is, you know, I host a national

757
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: talk show, a queer talk show every single morning on

758
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: Channel Q called The Morning Bee. Right, and we're the

759
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: first and only LGBTQ plus talk radio station in the

760
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: entire country in twenty twenty two, we're the only ones

761
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 3: still and I'm very proud of that. But I mean,

762
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: right now, in Florida, you know, Governor DeSantis and this

763
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: Republican allieser are pushing that don't Say Gay bill, making

764
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: it illegal to say the word gay in schools in

765
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: the entire state of Florida. And because of that, also,

766
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Tennessee just just brought forth legislation this week, and other

767
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: states across the country now doing the exact same thing.

768
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: They're trying to make it illegal to say the word

769
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: gay in any context. They talk about your gay uncle,

770
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: your gay aunts, your gay dad, like your gay friend.

771
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: They're trying to make it illegal to even say the

772
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: word in school. And we're talking kay through twelve. So

773
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: it might seem like we've come so far, and we

774
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: have in some ways, but that, by no means doesn't

775
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: mean that like the coming out story, it's different now

776
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: maybe for some people, but where I come from, it's

777
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: just as hard to come out today. As it probably

778
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: was when I came out twenty years ago, and that's problematic.

779
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: You both put that so beautifully, and that's exactly like

780
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: like you said, not everyone's living in Los Angeles, where

781
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: you know, we're out here, we're being exactly who we are.

782
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: We forget that the little dynamics that we have, the

783
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: friend groups, the family where we come from. It's still

784
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: a huge thing. And so when I say it seems dated,

785
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: I know that it's not, but it should be.

786
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh I wish it were right. I know we can

787
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: have and if we could have big pride parades in

788
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: very Mormon Salt Lake City, we could we could start

789
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: doing more all over the country.

790
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I think that your talk show that's amazing.

791
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy that it's twenty twenty two and

792
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: it's the only one in the country. And you know,

793
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I am definitely excited for people to hear this podcast

794
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: because I mean, look at the platform that you guys

795
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: are on and what you're doing, and then you're such

796
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: an ally to the LGBTQ plus community. I mean, you're

797
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: really doing it all and looking fabulous wile while you're

798
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: I wish my listeners could see you guys right now,

799
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: not see me, but see you guys. I mean every

800
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: straight woman. I'm sure when you guys walk into a place,

801
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: they're like, damn it.

802
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: What's funny? Becaus we sold. My best friend Drew also,

803
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 4: her birthday is coming up, having birthday. Whenever I hang

804
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: out with her, because granted I both of us, we

805
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: are kind of masculine presenting for the most part, and

806
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: so people don't necessarily look at us sometimes don't necessarily

807
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: look at us all the time and say, oh, I

808
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: can just see it. They're gay. And so when I'm

809
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: hanging out with her, especially if I'm in like a

810
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: muscle tank or whatever and we're hanging out. I was

811
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: at her apartment helping her film this audition the other day,

812
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: and I was in my tank topping some shorts and

813
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: there's this guy in her building. Hope, I don't think

814
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: she'll care what I'm telling you. There's this guy in

815
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 4: her building that she has a crush on. So she

816
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: literally sees him and she knocks in the window and

817
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: says hi, and then she's like, oh shit, you're with me,

818
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: flame out, flame out. So I know whenever she says that,

819
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, I just do something so like they

820
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: know that I'm gay because she's had guys before. They

821
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: see me with her and they think that we're a couple.

822
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: Right, Every gay man, every gay man in America who

823
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: is a little bit who's maybe not totally like feminine

824
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: presenting right now, could relate to that. Yeah, Like, listen, honey,

825
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: I can be as gay as the day as long.

826
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Speaker 4: We have a wig drawer, we have feather BoA's Hills.

827
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely we do, and we love everything of it. But

828
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: day in day out, like we are just who we are,

829
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: right and we don't have a ton of super feminine

830
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: qualities naturally, So sometimes we have to kind of help

831
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: our friends.

832
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: Out and.

833
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Way, yeah, don't be a cog blog for the friend,

834
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: like do something to let them know we are not together.

835
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: So I have to go back to what you said.

836
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: You said that you guys, and I relate to this

837
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: because even though I'm on reality TV, you know, you

838
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: guys are hosts and when people watch you, they they

839
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: almost expect for you to share every single part about

840
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: your life. And there's been times on vander Pump where

841
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have a therapy session, and you know,

842
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: the cameras want to be there and they're like, but

843
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: this is your real life, And I say, in real life,

844
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't invite anyone to my therapy sessions, so get

845
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the fuck out.

846
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

847
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that you You still keep that

848
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: those moments to yourselves. But you said you were sitting

849
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: on the bed naked talking to each other. I'm newly single.

850
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bag me a boo. Do I need

851
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: to sit on a bed naked and tell him my deepest,

852
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: darkest secrets to bag a good man?

853
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: Not yet?

854
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: How long?

855
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends, so I would. I would have.

856
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: That's not a date one.

857
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we did that like year five or six. Nothing,

858
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: I have to wait that long because we we do

859
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: like for the people our friends who are in relationships,

860
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: we do kind of advise into our listeners. We tell

861
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: them that it's a beautiful thing to do because it

862
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: was scary. We were built things to each other. We

863
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: never like said publicly what we were build, but we

864
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: both re built things to each other that we were

865
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: so terrified to reveal to each other. Obviously, when it

866
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: came to desires and fantasies, like you talk about the

867
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: things that you want sexually, you're in life and it's like, oh,

868
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: that's hot.

869
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: Certain, yeah, sure.

870
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 4: But then when you get to like things that maybe

871
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: you've done in the past you never told your partner,

872
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: then it's kind of it's a vulnerable position. But I

873
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: think what made it beautiful is it was hard to

874
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: hear some of those things on both sides. But after

875
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 4: a few days, when you sit with that, it's like,

876
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: if you were willing to bear your soul and trust

877
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 4: me with this information and I also received that from you,

878
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: and we're literally laying everything out on the table, it

879
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 4: just creates this bonding and this.

880
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah you've got there's got to be mutual trust of.

881
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could go go you go south.

882
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: You can go two ways. If one person is ready

883
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: to open up and be vulnerable and reveal like maybe, hey,

884
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: maybe I messed up earlier in the relationship, or maybe

885
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: I did something that isn't really like in the highest

886
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: version of myself, and maybe I disrespected you or a

887
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: relationship in some way, shape or form. And if one

888
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: person is willing to admit that and to say that,

889
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: and the other person's not willing to receive it or

890
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: allow space for forgiveness, you're doomed.

891
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 5: Wow.

892
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: So and and and it's not that there was like cheat,

893
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: you know, all that kind of stuff going on in

894
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: a relationship, but there was there was like very like

895
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: borderline stuff happening. And I messed up early on in

896
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: a relationship a little bit, to be honest, and and

897
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: it was cheating, and it was in my mind it

898
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: was sort of justified at the time because we were

899
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: still kind of going through some stuff and I wasn't

900
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: really sure if it was a forever situation for me.

901
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: Like full of transparency. I didn't know this, but at

902
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: the time when that situation occurred, he was pretty much

903
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: getting ready to break.

904
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Up with you.

905
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I can see how in his mind

906
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: he might not have seased like I'm about to leave

907
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: this guy anyway. He didn't know is I'm a millionaire

908
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: junior and I was prepared to fight for events. Yeah.

909
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: I had a little tricks when I realized he was

910
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: checking out, But.

911
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know. We lived together briefly at the beginning

912
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: of our relationship, and part of the thing was like

913
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: I broke up. We broke up for like what eight

914
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: hours was yeah, and then in my mind, I'm like, okay, well,

915
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: I'm checked out. I'm done at this relationship and it's

916
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: just a matter of time before he's actually officially all

917
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 3: the way moved.

918
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: Out, which that was too. So we moved in together

919
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: after maybe nine months of dating. And we moved in

920
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: together at the time back in twenty thirteen, for financially,

921
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: we were both broke.

922
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: He was a bar so I was gonna say nine

923
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: months is quick.

924
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was like one of those situations where he

925
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: was a bartender and doing the hosting dream. I was

926
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: working for a production company and doing the hosting dream,

927
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: but neither like I was making like one hundred dollars

928
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 4: a day after tax nothing, So we were just broke

929
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: and we were like, oh, you know, you're over here

930
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 4: all the time, so.

931
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: Why don't you move reason to ever move in?

932
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no. I will say this to couples

933
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 4: if you are in a relationship, you guys just started dating,

934
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you're over at your partner's place

935
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 4: every single day, you visiting them and stay in their space,

936
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 4: versus you actually moving in completely changes that you never.

937
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: Brush and a clean pair of underwear. That's fine, but

938
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: don't move in the right absolutely absolutely right.

939
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: And there was a roommate too. It was just a

940
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: lot of la to it.

941
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: Chaos, that is chaos. Okay, So you got engaged when

942
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: did you get engaged?

943
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 4: Christmas of twenty twenty?

944
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay? And did you have plans to get married? Did

945
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: the pandemic mess up the wedding plans at all? Or

946
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: did you always want? I mean, you guys have been

947
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: together a long time.

948
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: Kind of honestly, like, what's the rush? Right?

949
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: So that's a common law married by now, well, I

950
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: don't know.

951
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: Does that always does that exist in California? I don't know.

952
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what that really is, but I will

953
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: say that listen, Yeah, it's been a long time, but

954
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: you alsotart to think that we have not legally been

955
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: able to get married only for like the last five

956
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: or six years. So the first few years of our relationship,

957
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: marriage was never on our radar because it wasn't legal.

958
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: So it's not like maybe maybe you grew up having

959
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: an idea or your girlfriends grew up having an idea

960
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: of like marriage someday. Right, you have this picture, the

961
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: wedding dress, the big thing whatever. We didn't have that

962
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 3: because we never thought that was going to be a possibility. Right.

963
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: So so then all of a sudden a few years ago,

964
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: we get we get the option. I had planned actually

965
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: to propose a bunch of different ways, because he let

966
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: me know for a long time that he went in

967
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: something big and like over the top.

968
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 4: Is how like not like a flash dance models, Like

969
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: we gotta be a flash model.

970
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: So I thought I had to do something really really cool,

971
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Okay, well, he wants to make content

972
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: out of this, so this has to be a YouTube video,

973
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 3: So what can I do? And I had, I had,

974
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: I talked to my friends at Dick Clark. We thought

975
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: about maybe doing it on the Billboard Music Awards Red

976
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: carpet that spring a couple of years back in twenty nine.

977
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: You're twenty twenty, I think twenty twenty one, and we

978
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: thought about doing that, and then that got canceled. And

979
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: then I was talking to my team over at Wendy

980
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: Williams and she was going to help me propose to

981
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: him live on the air, on like a Valentine's Day

982
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: episode or something. And then also I'm friends with Genie

983
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: May and I've worked with her in the past, and

984
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: I've also worked with Garcel and Lannie and he's on

985
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: the reel. He's been there for a couple three years now,

986
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: and so then I thought, okay, maybe I can reach

987
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: out a genie and we can do like maybe a

988
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: proposal on the reel, like all these cool ideas that

989
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: I was running through my head, right, and then the

990
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: pandemic happens, and then I'm like, oh, so I just

991
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: kind of waited, waited, waited, and I was like, okay, well,

992
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: this is only going to be like two weeks, like

993
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: everybody thought it was gonna be two weeks when I started, right,

994
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: And so then two weeks goes by, and then two

995
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: months go by, then six months go by it and I'm

996
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: like okay, and all of a sudden, the whole year's

997
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 3: gone by. I'm like, I haven't proposed this whole time. Why,

998
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: Like what am I waiting for him? Waiting for the

999
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: pandemic to be over. It could be over in another day,

1000
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: or it could be ten more years. We didn't know.

1001
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: Hey, we could still be in it now.

1002
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: This is like pre vaccine, pre everything, right, And so

1003
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: finally I decided to do it on Christmas morning and

1004
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: involve our parents, both sides, and so we had we

1005
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: had a zoom setup so we could record it, and

1006
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: then I.

1007
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: Had we were supposed to COVID ruin that we were

1008
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: supposed to spend the holidays with our family, were supposed

1009
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: to go to my family for Thanksgiving, his family for Christmas,

1010
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 4: and so at the time I didn't really think anything

1011
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: of it because we were already planning on doing that

1012
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 4: zoom since we weren't able to spend holidays with them.

1013
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 4: But it turned out that he was proposing it was

1014
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: really sweet.

1015
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we didn't.

1016
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't. We didn't. As far as like actual

1017
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: wedding planning goes, I don't think that our wedding planning

1018
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 4: hasn't like COVID hasn't really ruined that it's tried multiple

1019
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: times stressful though, because we're doing a destination wedding and

1020
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: so we have a lot of people who are traveling

1021
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 4: and when you see, oh, now there's this new variant

1022
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 4: and it's spiking Andy, We're like, oh God. So it's

1023
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: like there's this anxiety that bubbles up because we're trying

1024
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: to move forward. We're trying to just move forward and

1025
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: just trust everything's in the workout, but also like the

1026
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: COVID of it all Yeah.

1027
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: Also asking our family to you. I had that. My

1028
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: dad is seventy years old and got a passport for

1029
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: the first time in his life. Wow, the Mexico for

1030
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: our wedding. So to ask people to go to a

1031
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: foreign country, uh, during a pandemic into like drug cartel land.

1032
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: I mean.

1033
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: It says literally, we have family members who have never

1034
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: been to Mexico. Some of them never trial out of

1035
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: the country, and because they're in their small communities and

1036
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: they don't travel, they only see what they see on TV.

1037
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 4: And sometimes they're looking at the headlines all negative. And

1038
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: so I've had to we both had to tell some

1039
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 4: family members. Okay, so you're saying that there's a shooting

1040
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 4: or drug cartel in Mexico. Okay, look down the street

1041
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. Yeah, literally where I'm from, like or look

1042
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: at LA, Like any community you're in, you can find

1043
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: that if you're looking for.

1044
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: Literally, we're a friend of ours was like mugged recently

1045
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: in LA in Beverly Hills.

1046
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: So wait, you guys, you and your families need a show,

1047
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: and it should be based on getting them to Mexico

1048
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: for the wedding.

1049
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: I would watch God's Ears.

1050
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: I would watch that and we have. We've been pretty

1051
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: open on social media about the struggles of dealing with

1052
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 4: family members who aren't as supportive as we thought. So

1053
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I don't care talking about this publicly.

1054
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: I I've said to them, I haven't talked to some

1055
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: of those members, but to anytime I'm on television, on

1056
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: a hosting, on a show, or they see me on TV,

1057
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: Oh my god, a mil We're so proud of you,

1058
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 4: like paragraphs, oh this is my nephew, or we go

1059
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: visit and they make me dinner and they love me.

1060
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: But then when it comes to the wedding stuff, all

1061
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we're getting like the client rvps, and

1062
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 4: then we're finding out from other family members the reason

1063
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 4: why they're not supportive, and I'm like, so, I think

1064
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: that really messes with my brain and it makes it

1065
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 4: feel as if if I wasn't on TV, if I

1066
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 4: wasn't in the career that I'm in, would you still

1067
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: support me or be excited to have me as your

1068
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 4: nephew or do you only still tolerate me because I'm

1069
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: that famous And I'm not even famous, but that's how

1070
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: they view when I go out because your fiance is

1071
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: on Wendy William watch it.

1072
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: So it's tricky to kind of realize what family members

1073
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: actually think of us. And it doesn't mean they don't

1074
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: love us, but it also hurts like your love doesn't trump,

1075
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: like your beliefs. You can't support my own sister, my

1076
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: own full blooded sister is not coming to the wedding

1077
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: because she just can't get there. She just has new

1078
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: faith that she's come into in recent years and and

1079
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: all of a sudden she believes God, you know, did

1080
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: not make me this way, and she can't support it.

1081
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: And so that's that's been devastating. But we've tried really

1082
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: hard to not take it as personally as humanly possible,

1083
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: even though that's not possible, but to try to focus

1084
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: on all of the people who are willing to fly

1085
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: before country.

1086
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 5: Of them.

1087
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 4: Want people who are supportive of us there, because those

1088
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: are people when you're going through any rocky moments in

1089
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: your marriage, you want people who were there who know

1090
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: the foundation and are there to support you through those times,

1091
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: and not people who are just there pretending like they

1092
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: are right.

1093
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: And it would it would ruin the entire celebration having

1094
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: someone there that really didn't support the love. It's it's

1095
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: like I wish you wouldn't have come, And yeah, I

1096
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: have so much respect for you both, and I'm so

1097
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: happy for you, and and just the the uphill climb

1098
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: that it seems like, you know, being in Hollywood doing

1099
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: what you do for a living on top of you know,

1100
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: dealing with a wedding that family members are not supportive of.

1101
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: It's something that a lot of us can't fathom. But

1102
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy to have you on the podcast

1103
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: to like have people feel less alone. And before I

1104
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: let you guys go, that wedding's going to be fabulous,

1105
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: I want to like.

1106
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: Commend you though for saying that though, because as an ally,

1107
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: that's a really beautiful thing to say, because just that

1108
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: acknowledgment of I can't even fathom, like those words coming

1109
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: from an ally who's maybe not a queer person to

1110
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: say that a couple like us who's kind of in

1111
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: this like vulnerable sort of emotional state means a lot,

1112
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: not just to us, but your listeners who might be

1113
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: you know, cleer and maybe wherever they are on their

1114
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: own journey, words like that go a long way. So

1115
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: I just want to say thank you, for that.

1116
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you saying that I do whatever I

1117
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: possibly can, but I will never pretend like I can

1118
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: understand because I can't. I'm a white woman who identifies

1119
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: as a straight person. I don't have adversity in many

1120
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: ways that others do. So thank you for sharing and

1121
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: being so vulnerable on this podcast. And I think the

1122
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: one thing that I would like you both to share

1123
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: before I let you sign off and you don't have

1124
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: to look at me anymore. You know, these these young

1125
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: kids are you know, maybe someone older who who feels

1126
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: so inspired to come out and just be who they

1127
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: are in these small places. They see you, but then

1128
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: they realize where they really are stuck. What is your

1129
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: advice to them? Because you've both come from from backgrounds

1130
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: like that, and look at where you are now, I

1131
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: think people would appreciate hearing your advice.

1132
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: I would say that you're not as alone as you think.

1133
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: There are other queer people in your community, and as

1134
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: safely and as comfortably as you can as you navigate

1135
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: those early those early days, find them trying to try

1136
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: to find a way to find them, because it's so

1137
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: important that whatever it is that makes you you in

1138
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: life and That could be your sexuality, it could be

1139
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 3: your desires, it could be your creativity. Whatever it is,

1140
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: whatever your outlet ther thing is, you need to get

1141
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: it out of you. And I believe that we're put

1142
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 3: on this planet to share whatever that gift is, right,

1143
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 3: and you can't share it if you're hiding it inside

1144
00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: of you. So find one person, and that person will

1145
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 3: lead you to another person and lead you to another person.

1146
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: And that one person, oftentimes is maybe a girlfriend at

1147
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 3: a school or an aunt or like that one person

1148
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: who's a little more kind and a little more compassionate,

1149
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: a little more empathetic. And if they're that way about

1150
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 3: other things, chances are they might be that way about

1151
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: you too, And that can open you up to like

1152
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: a whole different world, because I get it, Like small

1153
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: towns are scary and they're not always the most accepting,

1154
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: the most loving of anybody who's different, but also also

1155
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: they can surprise you, Like my small town is pretty

1156
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: like messed up in some ways, but in some ways

1157
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: there are people there that are really incredible and really

1158
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: wonderful and loving and they just want an opportunity to

1159
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: love on you. So give them the opportunity, but do

1160
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: it on a timeline in a way that feels safe

1161
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: and authentic to you.

1162
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's beautiful. And I think for me

1163
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 4: and I can only come from the experience of if

1164
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: I were to talk to my younger, So I think

1165
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 4: the biggest thing I would say is you can't focus

1166
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: on other people's opinions of you. I know, for me,

1167
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: when I was in the closet, I was so focused

1168
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 4: on do they know I'm gay? Like constantly thinking about

1169
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: all these different things. And when you focus so much

1170
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: on what other people think and you aren't truly being

1171
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: who you are, and even if it is like scary,

1172
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying if if you aren't in a

1173
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: place that you feel safe being exclusively expressive of your sexuality,

1174
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: I completely get that safety comes first. But I was

1175
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: hiding in so many ways where I felt like I

1176
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: had to create a version of myself that it's just

1177
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to look back at that person,

1178
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: knowing the hurt and the pain that I was dealing

1179
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: with every single day. And so I would just I

1180
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 4: would just kind of similar to AJ in terms of

1181
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 4: if you can find that outlet or you can find

1182
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: that person. For me, it was TV shows. So it

1183
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: was watching like will like all of me. It was

1184
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: the Grassy also like watching the Grassy and scene I

1185
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: think it was. It was Marco. Marco was like the

1186
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 4: gay character. Like if you can find some type of

1187
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: way to relate or now, I mean we're older, but

1188
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: now you can get on YouTube, we're snapchat whatever and

1189
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 4: see queer people who may be in an area that

1190
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 4: you're not from, but you can see how they express

1191
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: themselves and what they deal with. Then you hear their stories.

1192
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: Social media is really yeah, not always for the best,

1193
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: but it has changed the game and.

1194
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 4: All find the way. I I don't necessarily like saying

1195
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 4: it gets better because life is hard so many ways,

1196
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 4: but just know that if you truly focus on being

1197
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: the authentic person and following that path, that you can

1198
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 4: find joy. It may not be easy every single day,

1199
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: but you can find joy.

1200
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: And also, if nothing else, just listen to the Confessor

1201
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: mess podcast because it's queer as Fun and we have

1202
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: a lot of really fantastic guests on there, and you'll

1203
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: feel represented. You do like, you'll feel like you'll feel

1204
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: like your life is nearly as message you thought.

1205
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I love that. Oh my gosh, y'all give

1206
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: me chills. I'm like Beyon Honor to have you on

1207
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: the give Them La La podcast. And where can people

1208
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: find you?

1209
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 4: Guys, you can find me, I think everywhere at a

1210
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: Millionaire Junior maybe on TikTok at a million is Junior

1211
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: thirty one because I can't get my name for some reason.

1212
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: And then the podcast is at confessor mess podcast on

1213
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: Instagram and at Confessed podcast on Twitter.

1214
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just this is such a douchey thing,

1215
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: but just google me, like AJ Gibson. Now go to

1216
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: aj gibsontv dot com if my website. You can find

1217
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: everything there. I also I'm an author. I wrote a

1218
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: book called Flipping the Script. You can buy a copy there.

1219
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: And there's also I'm a public speaker. I do a

1220
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: lot of other side things, but a true story. I

1221
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: can't get AJ Gibson on Instagram, so it's underscore AJ Gibson.

1222
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: Because there's a mother in I think North Dakota whose

1223
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: daughter does vallet, who has the name AJ Gibson. Her

1224
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: name is not Aju, and I've tried to buy it

1225
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: from her many times. She will not sell it to me.

1226
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 3: So I'm under or Aja Gibson on Instagram.

1227
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I so relate to not being able

1228
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: to get your name. It's the most annoying thing. You

1229
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: guys are amazing. I hope that you enjoy the rest

1230
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: of your day and thank you so much.

1231
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: Thank you loves.

1232
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: Before I let you guys go, I want to do

1233
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: a voicemail, but I also want to remind you that

1234
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm going on tour. I know a lot of you

1235
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: are like, you're not a comedian, you're not a performer.

1236
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: What does this tour entail? Well, it entails you having

1237
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: the best night of your fucking life. I promise you

1238
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: that I'm going to give you all the feels between

1239
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: us getting to know each other, playing games, feeling inspired.

1240
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: You want me to call somebody, put them on speed dial,

1241
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: because I'm about to call them for you. We have

1242
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot of different segments. It's going to be amazing.

1243
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: We are starting off in Irvine, California, but you can't

1244
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: come to that because I'm soldad motherfuckers. Then we're going

1245
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: to Fort Lauderdale, Clearwater, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville, New Orleans, Houston, Austin,

1246
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: and Dallas. You can find all of these dates and

1247
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: cities on my Instagram page at Lala Kent Jess. Can

1248
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: you play a voicemail for me? Yes? I can.

1249
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 5: Hey, Lala, this is Christina from West Palm Beach. I

1250
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 5: just wanted to Colin tell you how much I love

1251
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 5: you and how much you guys got me through the quarantine.

1252
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 5: You and my boyfriend Vanner Pumps is what we've binge

1253
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 5: watched during the quarantine and is is just what helped

1254
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 5: us got to get it through. It's, I guess our

1255
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 5: question for you that we always wonder is what is

1256
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 5: your family's reactions to things that they see on Vandard Pumps? Again?

1257
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 5: Love you, Thank you so much for everything and for

1258
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 5: always being you and giving us Lala Love you.

1259
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: Christina. First of all, I developed an obsession with Vanner

1260
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: Bumples during Quarantine as well.

1261
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 4: Well.

1262
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: I had never seen any episode or any season before

1263
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I entered season four because I'm just that vain. I'm like,

1264
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not on it, what's there to watch? Just kidding, really,

1265
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. I started from season one and I was like,

1266
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: this is the most amazing show and I am honored,

1267
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: yeah to be a part of it. Yeah, you know.

1268
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: I was like, these are the OG's and they deserve

1269
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: so much credit because this is the best television I've

1270
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: ever watched, So we have die in common, Christina. My

1271
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: family doesn't watch the show. They don't know. My family

1272
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: doesn't watch the show. And I don't even think it's

1273
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: because they don't want to see me in certain situations,

1274
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: because they know me. I'm the same person on television

1275
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: that I am, you know, behind a little more sensitive.

1276
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: Behind closed doors.

1277
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would get to if you took

1278
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: my interactions with my family and you edit it down,

1279
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: you would probably see the same thing that you see

1280
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: on Vanner Pumpin right right, But like there's no need

1281
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: for them to watch it. In their minds, they're like

1282
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: not interesting, right Yeah. Yeah, I try to get them too.

1283
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom hasn't read my book. I don't

1284
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: know that I want her to read my book, but

1285
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: she knows everything, you know, every blow job I've ever given,

1286
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: every time I've popped off or clap back on someone.

1287
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you guys learned from last week's episode, they're

1288
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: a very open family.

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Speaker 1: Yes, clearly we have to mention at all, so they

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: don't they don't watch, And I tell my mom about

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: things that happen, and I'm sure if she watched it

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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: on TV, she may have a different reaction, like everyone

1293
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: seeing me yeah ah, or everyone read that in your book?

1294
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know when you were first on the show.

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: Did they watch it?

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: And then? Oh? Nothing? No? Wow, nothing, that's cool. Like

1297
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: I had to call my dad to fill them in

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: on me cussing too much because I got too drunk

1299
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: on watch Wabbits Live my first time. Oh he was like,

1300
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: first of all, what is this show you're talking about?

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: Why are you in New York? What's happening? That's good though, Yeah,

1302
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I just I don't think they were interested, and like,

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01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: I just don't think. Oh it's Monday or whatever night

1304
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: we air. Now I gotta tune in to my kid

1305
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: on vander Pump Rules, Like my mom would much rather

1306
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: be watching twenty twenty and Easton watches his sports and

1307
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: my dad was like into watching CSI.

1308
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like that though, Oh, because you're right,

1309
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: they already know you, so why watch? And then you

1310
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: never have to worry about like ooh, maybe that scene

1311
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: wasn't great, but my family's not gonna see it, so

1312
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: who cares.

1313
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't care if they did see it. Yeah,

1314
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: but it's nice because then when I call my family,

1315
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: like a lot of my cast members like, oh my

1316
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: mom or my sister whoever is obsessing over this last episode.

1317
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, my mom just called me to tell

1318
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: me that, like there's drama at her work and like

1319
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: they're really trying to get this dog adopted.

1320
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: I love Lisa, you know.

1321
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: So that's that, Jess. Do you want to play me

1322
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: another voicemail before we wrap it up? Yes?

1323
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 5: I do?

1324
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: Can we wrap it up? Do you remember? Wait? What

1325
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: is that? Season four? And Katie mall or No Christ

1326
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: and Doni and Stossy's speech at the fucking engagement party

1327
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: of Katie's and I'm like, can we wrap it up?

1328
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: I would if someone did that to me at my

1329
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: engagement party, serious, I would claw your eyes out. Oh

1330
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: my god, god, they're so classy.

1331
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: Can we wrap it up?

1332
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: Love?

1333
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: And I go, what the fuck are you talking about?

1334
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 6: It icon't And then they flashed me with my drunk

1335
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 6: shit sue looking hair and I'm like.

1336
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: Anyway, next voicemail, next voicemail.

1337
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 7: Hey, longline, Jess, my name is Haley from Iowa. I

1338
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 7: just wanted to say I listened to your book on

1339
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 7: Audible and I loved it. I want to say thank

1340
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 7: you for being so unapologetically yourself. It's refreshing for reality TV.

1341
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 7: My question is, if you were a housewife, what would

1342
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 7: be your tagline? Thank you so much for your time,

1343
01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 7: have a good day.

1344
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh hey, Haley, I'm in a mood today. Is there

1345
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: any way that I could just like, you know how

1346
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: they always like do a little flip around, couldn't I

1347
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: just like flip around and be like, give them La

1348
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: La Enough.

1349
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: Fucking said, Enough fucking said, yeah, they can bleep that

1350
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: part out. Enough said, yeah, Well that'd be good.

1351
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: That'd be good.

1352
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: Which housewife's franchise would you want to be on? Salt Lake?

1353
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: Right?

1354
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: Obviously, yeah, it take whatever I think to be honest,

1355
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: But where do you want to move me? Where do

1356
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: I fit in? Salt Lake? Would be a good one though, right,

1357
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of times I see them arguing and

1358
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, Lala needs to come shut this shit down. Yeah,

1359
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Lala needs to come spill mad knowledge. They have Heather

1360
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Gay whose like voice of reason always and she makes

1361
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: all the sense in the world, and I could watch

1362
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: her twenty four to seven, And same with Whitney they're

1363
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: called bad Weather. You wouldn't know that guy when you

1364
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: don't watch bad Weather. They're such a vibe. But they

1365
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: need la la with them.

1366
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay with with those Yes, Yes, let's function up. I

1367
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: like that.

1368
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: Yep, giving them all a run for their money.

1369
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: That give them Lala, Let's funck shit up.

1370
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Give them Laala, Let's funck shit up.

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: That's my tagline. Good. No, next week, I'm gonna have

1372
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: an epic tagline and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you

1373
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: guys what it would be. I gotta think on it.

1374
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 4: Though.

1375
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them are great. In others I'm like, yeah,

1376
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: not so great. You should have told producers Wrongo, it

1377
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: didn't happen. All right, you guys, I love you so much.

1378
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: I hope that I see you on the Give Them

1379
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Laala brand New Tour. You guys are fucking awesome for

1380
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: tuning in, and I hope that you enjoyed this episode

1381
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: and I will talk to you next week.