WEBVTT - Democracy For Sale 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.360 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.160 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody once again recording from yes 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.360 the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, I am very excited to end 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:26.320 this week with our friend Mark Thompson, host of Make 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:31.440 It Plain for our series Make It Woke plain as Fuck. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.320 We still haven't come up with the name, but friends, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:39.680 you know this week, these first seven long days in 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.120 January have been a lot and Mark and I get 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.960 into a conversation on the reflections about where we are 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.239 three hundred and sixty five days after an attempt to 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.400 violently overthrow our government. Where we are as Biden and 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.160 Kamala Harris stood up before the American people and finally 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.960 after a year, proclaimed that guess who is responsible for 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.000 the insurrection? Guess who should be in jail right now, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.320 Donald Trump. But because of the likes of Joe Mansion 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.920 and Kursen's cinema, it is likely that our democracy is 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.440 not just in a free fall. It is likely just 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.760 to fall over a cliff for good. And why is 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.600 that We're not going to be able to put the 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.840 blame squarely on the shoulders of the Republican Party, Because 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.280 one they are a death cult, that does not care 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.720 about democracy, that does not care about the public health. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.520 And we know these things, but the reality is, what 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.320 we also know is that we have two traders inside 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:40.760 of our party that the party leadership itself refuses to name, 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.440 that the party leadership itself refuses to call out. Just 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.560 this week, it was announced that the GOP put a 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.960 million dollars in dark money into West Virginia. West Virginia 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.200 is poor as fuck, but they are spending a million 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.960 dollars on television ads to convince Joe Mansion to continue 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:08.000 with his own personal insurrection, not nuking the filibuster, the 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.040 racist ass filibuster, so that we can get voting rights done. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:18.400 They know how important this last lynchpin in our democracy is, 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.799 and they are willing to spend that amount of money 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.040 in one of the poorest states in the nation in 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.440 order to ensure that people like you and me are 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.960 not able to vote. We have an uphill battle ahead 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.440 of us in the coming months, and frankly, folks, we're 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:37.920 not even going to make it to the end of 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:42.040 the year. The election is in November. You see, there 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:47.519 is a mass exodus from Democrats to seek reelection and 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.440 Why is that, Well, if you listen to some of them, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.680 they are telling you that the job has become too dangerous. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.720 There are metal detectors right now all around the Capitol building. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.480 It is not because of the presumed threat of outside 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.880 agitators coming back of outside insurrectionists. Democrats are afraid of 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.000 their own fucking colleagues, and yet that's not a constant 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.800 topic on the news every day. They are afraid for 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.919 their own lives and the lives of their family members. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.840 They're tired of the threats, and so they are leaving 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.280 in mass. The same thing is happening at our city 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:33.239 and state levels as well. Reported this week on CNN. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.000 Do you know where the Proud Boys have put their 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.120 latest target. It's not on Congress, and it's not on 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.040 the Senate. It's not even on the presidency. They have 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.120 decided to do what Steve Bannon has been telling them 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.400 to do. Go village, buy village, and take over the 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.960 school boards. So then you have a bunch of white supremacists, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.960 right wingers that are on your school boards that they're 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.680 dictating what's your children learn. I see in our future 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.040 a mass pullout right of those that are middle income 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.840 and high income to be able to pull their kids 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.360 out of public schools, which will do what to poor 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:17.040 and low income students. They will deal with dilapidated schools. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.800 They will deal with the federal government pulling out funds 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.640 because now all of a sudden they need to put 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.159 it into charter schools or give more money into religious schools. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:31.200 And this is exactly what happened after the Board, after 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.080 Brown versus the Board of Education was passed. When I 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.240 tell you that we are regressing right now, this is 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.880 what I'm talking about. We thought that these fights were 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.360 in the past, and they are right in front of us. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.000 And I do not think that the Democratic Party that 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.120 we have right now is prepared or senses the urgency 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.680 of this moment. So Mark and I are going to 0:04:54.760 --> 0:05:02.360 tackle this conversation and much much more coming up next, folks. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:07.320 I am always so happy when I get to do 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.640 our monthly segment with our friend and the host of 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.640 Make It Plane, Mark Thompson, for our Make It Woke 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.160 monthly segment here with DCP. And it just so happens 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.720 that this week, as we are ready to engage in 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:31.640 our conversation, that it is the unfortunate anniversary of a 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:37.520 violent attempt by Trump's supporters and enablers to overthrow our government, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:42.039 to thwart our democracy and institute in an era of 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:47.279 authoritarianism and fascism in this country. All over broadcasts for 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.320 this entire week, folks have been giving their thoughts and 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.320 their reflections, and we've been seeing videos over and over again. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.160 And so I am very excited to sit down with you, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:03.440 dear friend Mark and cap off. What is a really 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:09.120 rough first week of January? Like, my god, this isn't 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.719 this is the first week of January, and I and 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.839 I need a nap. How are you right? Well? Always 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.080 a pleasure when we get together here to make it woke, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.719 make it wokf make it whatever we call on it. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:28.239 This this uh this time, it's it's fun um and 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.159 uh um it Actually, you know, being with you actually 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.200 helps my uh stock go up because everybody loves you. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.680 I don't think everybody does, but I appreciate that loves you. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.960 And again, one of the reasons you people love you 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:47.159 is you cussed and I don't uh you know when 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.799 I years ago when I started at at another UM 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:55.080 entity and I was just getting started and sun custom 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.680 and I'm like, no, why is that the prerequisite. I mean, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.080 he was just you gonn custom people beloved. There's a 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:06.440 mischievousness I guess, and that the people people enjoy. Um. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:11.000 But um, you know we we I'm not following you 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.520 for that. We all should be custing right now. We're 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.920 in a crazy situation and I'm gonna say something. I'm 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.840 not gonna custom. I'm gonna say something that's gonna sure 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:24.680 We're gonna come off as extremely controversial. Um. The speeches 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:29.000 January six speeches and all the positions that Biden inherit 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.680 and everybody else has taken off Democrats. That's that's fine. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.480 But what people are not embracing, what people are ignoring. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:43.880 There was an insurrection January six. There's an ongoing insurrection 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:51.240 going on today. Joe Mansion is a twenty four seven insurrectionist. Ye, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.800 as long as he won't nuke to filibuster. And so 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.400 you know, you know how in life you can't sometimes 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.520 don't see the far as for the tree. You think 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.920 the fight you're in is the real fight. M h. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.160 It's kind of give an example, you know, gives a 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.920 minister council couples sometimes, you know, and there's a vehicle 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.280 backing up beeping like you know, but that's we're in 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:27.640 New York, y'all something. Star. Husband's not getting along with 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.440 his wife. But we just don't get long. We don't 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.400 like each other. But husband, let me remind you, you're 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:40.680 also an alcoholic. So is is what is the problem? 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.200 What is the overarching problem? What is the issue that's 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:48.240 really affecting this marriage? So here we are we in 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:54.120 the democracy is in jeopardy is because of Trump. But 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.360 then you've got this other joker who is who is 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:03.120 also preventing democracy from going forward and putting the firewalls 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:04.959 in place to be the John Lewis Act or whatever 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.240 we're gonna call it act this time to prevent Republicans 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.120 from attacking democras. January six is just one part of 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:23.920 that pie. And I fear my dear that Republicans. I'm sorry, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.240 the Democrats, the leadership, the consultant class which I always 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.720 call it, that's really making decisions. I think January sixth 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.880 and all, we heard that in that commemoration. That's what 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.600 they're gonna run on in twenty twenty two. That's it. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.439 That's gonna be the one thing. And I think they 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.760 think that's gonna carry people to the polls and allow 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.600 them to hold the majority in the House. I think 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:53.239 that's naive. I think that's a mistake because while Republicans 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.800 and this is this is one of our faults as Democrats, progressives, liberals, 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.679 people on level whatever, one of our we don't have 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.040 a lot of pages. So where Republicans couldn't get roll 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:08.400 overturned one year later in seventy four, they've been very patient, 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.400 very vigilant, very diligent fifty years. Not e're gonna get it. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:16.440 We want it now. And I get there's a desperation 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.439 in that because there's so many negative things going on, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.839 but we don't get it now. We're gonna give power 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.520 back to them, and they want they want to run. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.480 Just on Jane Wary sixth, why can't Biden deliver anything now? 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.600 Because of Joe Manchin. He he can't even look at it, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:30.719 you know which, to be honest with it, says we 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.920 can't even look at him and say, Joe Biden, you 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.079 really ain't doing nothing now. It's not Joe Biden not 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.760 doing nothing. One man is blocking it. So that to 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:44.679 me is the filipbuster is an insurrectionist too. Look up, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:49.240 Mariam go to Mary Webster Dixonary look up filibuster or 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:55.199 filipbuster or and the definition definition is insurrectionist. That's the 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.200 early definition of the world because that's what they were 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.960 doing that in Latin America, trying to annex slave state 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.680 by fomenting insurrections. And that's what philibusterers we're going down 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.280 there to do. And so that's what Joe Mansion is doing. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.280 And so I'm just being real. And I know people 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:11.880 all marget away when you talk that way, because we 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.440 want to just oh, we want to just decried January six, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.640 January six? Jan where six? Jane where six? Well, I'm sorry. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.680 It from the lens of those of us who deal 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.640 with issues of justice and racism every day. It's never 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:30.320 just one thing. No, Dan Were, I don't know about you, Nail. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.800 Did Dan Were six surprise you? Disurprise me? You know? 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.839 I forgot about it. I will say this because you've 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.680 made so many good points, and so I will say 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.800 this on your last question and then go back to 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:47.400 the beginning. Okay, So did January six surprise me? Um? No? 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.440 Because I did believe that something violent was going to happen. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.640 Why because Donald Trump told us that something violent was 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.880 going to happen because all of his supporters said watch 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:08.880 out because in his debate quote unquote debate or whatever 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.920 the hell that was that he did with Joe Biden, 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.000 he told the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo boys to 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.240 stand back and stand by when he was asked to 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.000 decry them. So did I think Was I surprised? No? 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:27.000 But was I aghast? Was I horrified at the images 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:32.040 of our Capitol building being under siege by a mob 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:37.360 of angry, rabid white people. Absolutely, because I said this 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:43.480 yesterday on Woke a f I hold the Capitol Building 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.560 in Washington, d C. In a sacred place in my 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:52.960 heart right like I am a person who believed in 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.080 the possibility of a small group of people changing things. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.440 I believed in the power of the people. It's why 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.800 I went to Washington, DC after high school. It's why 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.960 I studied political science, It's why I went to work 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.640 on the Hill and become a fellow, It's why I 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.840 do the work that I do. And so to see 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.439 people desecrate that place in the manner that they did 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.160 was horrifying. But it just shows me and what I 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.960 said is this, and this is a question that I 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.960 want to ask you too, Mark, is that you know 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:34.040 I wrote a piece where I quoted James Baldwin in it, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.680 and James Baldwin and I think it was like nineteen 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.480 sixty nine. I think it was an interview that he 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.800 was doing, and he was talking about how when white 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.640 people scream right about patriotism, when they say, he said, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.960 as a matter of fact, give me liberty or give 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:56.360 me death White America, the white world cheers him as 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:00.760 a patriot. A black man and I will obstitute black 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.640 person could say the very same thing word for word, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.160 and they are hailed as a criminal and in this 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:13.040 day and age, a terrorist. Right, And so you know, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:18.160 the understanding, the foundation, the understanding of what it means 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.840 to be a patriot. I'm going to say that these 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.560 quote unquote conservatives, these Trumpers, that these people that embody 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.680 Trumpism and white supremacy in such a bold way have 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.320 no true understanding of what it actually means to be 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.960 a patriot. Biden said in his speech. You know that 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.960 you patriotism isn't just about when you win, right, It's 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.640 not just about because of the power and the privileges 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.520 that you receive. And so you know, do you feel 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:56.920 that white America has an understanding even of what patriotism 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:04.040 right and and and what democracy it's supposed to be. Well, I, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:09.200 unfortunately I never really shared that optimism about the capital 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.600 and all of that, because it's never really been that 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.280 and we're just seeing the extreme of it now. It 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:23.160 wasn't that way twenty thirty, forty years ago. I mean, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:28.600 this has always been a battle. But you know, the 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.480 only thing that surprised me about January sixth is that 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.920 they didn't kill more people, That they literally didn't physically 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:40.240 blow up the capital. And I think the only reason 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.560 that didn't happen is because it was not very well organized. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.720 It was only organized with a handful of people, and 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.280 everybody else would just sheet just following along, and once 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:50.840 they got caught up in it, they didn't you know, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:55.680 They're just like, yeah, let's just go And they couldn't 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.600 go out front and say to the masses, let's go 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.840 up here and blow up the capital. So, you know, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:05.960 I think that the dangerous place we're in is minimizing 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:10.680 and denying that. What is also happening every single day 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.320 on Capitol Hill is an extension of January sixth. It 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:20.640 continual of January sixth, and Democrats have functioned. Don't don't 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.880 say anthing bad about Joe Mansion. We got to bring 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.200 him along, let's kiss up, let's let's let's stroke him 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.160 as much as we can. Uh, it's it's too late 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.000 for that. So Democrats need to say, forget about black foot. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.920 Let's say talk about black folks. Just as a party, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.320 you have someone who's registered in your party ensuring that 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.240 your party will be voted out of power. Let's just 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.160 let's take away to the racial constituencies agender, because let's 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.200 take away all the people in the tent, and let's 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.920 just talk about the survival of the party as a 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:54.240 corporate institution. There's a member in your camp that is 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.040 working for the other side, right, and and what what 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.920 do you do with that? And let mena tell us 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:06.600 it's insurrectionist. Joe Mansion would not be the Senator if 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.400 not for black and progressive voters in West Virginia. Yeah, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.000 he feels a great loyally the Trump voters. Well, why 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.800 don't you own anything to the people who were the 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.760 margin of victory for your arrested desk? Why don't Why 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.879 don't you feel like you owe something to them, and 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.800 then I'm only mentioned to him because he's a little 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.199 sade kick. I don't even know what Nobody knows what 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.440 she's talking about, what her agend is, other than being, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:35.240 you know, just kind of disturb the trouble off her rocket. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.320 I'm talking about sentiment. No, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, well, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.679 I just I don't know if the audience knew, but 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:45.040 y'all probably know because y'all every day, Um, what is 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.800 that really all about? So so we we are at 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.399 an existential crisis, so so so so to talk about 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.160 January six, We're never gonna let this happen again. You're 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.440 letting it happen again every day as long as Joe 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:02.159 Mansion is a shot call, you know, and everybody knows 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.399 how to get the people people, somebody says, Danielle Mark, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.320 y'all not gonna do that today. They're gonna figure out 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.520 way to stop us. I don't care what it is. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.200 There is a way to check No one is. I 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.840 don't know anybody who's uncheckable. Trump even tries it, and 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.680 that's this is it. But that's such a good point, Mark, 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:27.200 because nobody is uncheckable right now, right Now the GOP 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:34.159 has put a million dollar ad buy ad right in 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.600 West Virginia. It is the cheapest goddamn market in the 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:43.360 country because they nobody fucking lived there, right a million dollars. 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.199 Where the hell of the Democrats been when people have 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:51.120 been saying, get to the people in West Virginia. Now, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:57.240 I know that Reverend Barber last year, in the height 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.640 of the pandemic, took a bunch of folks to West 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:05.879 Virginia to go in March. I was there, and I'm saying, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.800 but where was your backup? Where? Where was the backup 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.160 from the big d Democratic Party? Where is the backup 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.119 from the consulting class to put the money in the 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:23.560 area where you know? This motherfucker's mind needs to be changed? 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.879 And I continue to say, not only do I believe 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.640 that Mansion and Cinema are our secret agents, because it's 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.080 not a secret, but I believe that they have cut 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:39.520 themselves a deal. When this ship goes south and Republicans 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.160 gain power, I believe that they have cut themselves a deal. 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.280 I would I want somebody to prove me wrong. This 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.840 is one of my theories that I'm rocking with because 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:53.399 otherwise it doesn't make any sense. Well, here's and I 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.800 hear what you're saying. But here here's the problem. And 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:57.960 this is where we again, we can't just talk about 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.840 Dame were six twenty one. I talked about Janie with 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.600 six twenty twenty two. No matter how much money I mean, 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.440 I don't even know why Republicans wasting their money in 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:12.280 West Virginia. Joe Mansion is an incumbent, not a free 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:16.000 election for a couple of years or more. He does 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:23.080 not listen to anyone in West Virginia. They are irrelevant. So, folks, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:27.600 we're really talking about a maximum democratic situation. So here, 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.400 I am a senator from a state and I've decided 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.199 I'm not going to listen to a mumbling word of 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.440 a single constituent in my state. I'm gonna do whatever 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:36.800 i want to do. And it just so happens what 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:41.200 I want to do favors the right wing. But Joe Mansion, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.000 we went down there. There's no better statement than the 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:48.720 people in West Virginia, white folk. I was around white 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.280 people with I've never been around so many white for 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.560 every one time I can't remember when who were talking 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.080 about what Joe Mansion was doing to them. How Joe 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.480 Mansion was hurting them. He does not care. So I 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.680 don't even know the answer to that riddle. What could 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.760 the backup have been? Because when we were there, it 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.119 was like we were just screaming into the wind, like 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.320 we were fighting, Righten Mill. And again that's the problem 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.399 to see. I'm Jimmy Carters right, I'm gonna take a 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.080 step further because then we can do this from the 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.240 lens as black people, because democracy never really has worked 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:22.120 for us, and really this system is broken and I'll 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.520 tell you something are in a minute, it's gonna be obsolete. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:27.399 And you know, Danielle and not come on here every 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:28.879 day and the other folk we talk about, we do 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.840 the political prognostication and punditry and try to figure this out. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:33.480 I don't have an answer for none of it. So 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.840 me and Danielle, I'm up from now. We might decide 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:38.120 we need to do a sports show because we don't 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.359 have no answer. We might need to do sports, Danielle, 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:46.399 because that's the only thing, that's the only short thing 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.320 you would not come on and talk about today and 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.879 make some sense out of it, because You're right, you 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.560 had a lost quol question. Why can't they be a backup. 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.640 Go spend some money with constituents. And what I'm saying 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.880 you from what I witnessed, if Democrats think ten million 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.080 dollars in West Virginia, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter. 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:03.239 It would not man, it wouldn't even matter if they 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.280 changed the thousand miles and really haint them many matters 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.159 and change because because because even some of them to 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.200 take them. Everybody who margu who that's going the Democrat 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.560 people in West Virginia know they poor man's like West 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.439 Virginia is depressing. Let me tell y'all something. If you 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.200 think you're doing bad in life, you need some self motivation. 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.680 Go to West Virginia. If you think you have problems 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.080 where you live, in your sight and your family. We 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.639 went to West Virginia, and I know what I am, 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:32.480 and I know how I'm viewed. White folks running towards me. 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:34.359 Oh we got to talk. Wait minute, what's going on? 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.080 You know, normally, when you go to the restaurant or 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:41.720 to the watering hole, you're venting to to the people 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.920 who worked there, to the bartender, to the waitress. I 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.880 just reversed in West Virginia. I took you down there, 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.840 we couldn't eat because folks who worked there, the waitresses 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.320 in the restaurant, want to tell us about how bad 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:57.359 they have. That's and these are means are mostly white people. 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.840 But let me ask you this, as their telling you this, 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:06.719 why has that man been in office from the local 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.840 level all the way up to Senate for forty years? Well, see, 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.720 I said, but I think that gets just another stuff 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.879 because in a place like that that is so rule, 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:20.600 you get some slick people to come in there. They 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.520 can fix a lot, they can maneuver a lot. Joe 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:28.439 Manchion has been a master maneuverer. And people don't have 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:32.879 the energy and wherewith all people aren't organized. So somebody 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:37.400 would name recognition can easily just keep running and keep 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.399 on winning. He might continue to be elected forever. But 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.040 he thinks that not only can he do that, he 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.239 has to play to the interests on one side and 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.880 never once to the interests of the people who really 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.720 need the help. We're not again, we're not just talking 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.520 about black for poor people in West Virginia need build 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.040 back better. That's just the reality. It was sad if y'all. 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.280 I don't think white folks and be poor go to 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.040 West Virginia. It's totally unnecessary. Pain paint the picture, mark 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:11.000 what what? Because honestly, I've never been to West Virginia. 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.080 I have no desire to go there. I will never 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.440 go there probably in my whole life. Um, So paint 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.000 the picture for us, Um what what did you what? 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:24.320 When you say poor? Right, are we talking about poverty? 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.480 Are what are you seeing? And what are some of 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:31.040 the things that the waitresses, the waiters, the bartenders, the 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:35.080 service folk who you were able to engage with in 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.440 twenty twenty one, what were they saying to you? They 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.600 they didn't make enough money to make ends meet. The 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.760 wages are low. So it's on the spectrum between just 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:48.720 straight up poverty and low wages. So I didn't go 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.720 into a lot of places where there was just destitution 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.440 and have to I went to places I just go 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.560 to restaurant and get some meat, and people would talk 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:02.080 about and people just there's there's nothing nice down there, 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.320 you know, you and I in New York, I mean 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.440 you see people who who walk down the street looks 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.320 like they have something. Folcus in West Virginia just trying 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:16.719