Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody once again recording from yes
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, I am very excited to end
Speaker 1: this week with our friend Mark Thompson, host of Make
Speaker 1: It Plain for our series Make It Woke plain as Fuck.
Speaker 1: We still haven't come up with the name, but friends,
Speaker 1: you know this week, these first seven long days in
Speaker 1: January have been a lot and Mark and I get
Speaker 1: into a conversation on the reflections about where we are
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days after an attempt to
Speaker 1: violently overthrow our government. Where we are as Biden and
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris stood up before the American people and finally
Speaker 1: after a year, proclaimed that guess who is responsible for
Speaker 1: the insurrection? Guess who should be in jail right now,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But because of the likes of Joe Mansion
Speaker 1: and Kursen's cinema, it is likely that our democracy is
Speaker 1: not just in a free fall. It is likely just
Speaker 1: to fall over a cliff for good. And why is
Speaker 1: that We're not going to be able to put the
Speaker 1: blame squarely on the shoulders of the Republican Party, Because
Speaker 1: one they are a death cult, that does not care
Speaker 1: about democracy, that does not care about the public health.
Speaker 1: And we know these things, but the reality is, what
Speaker 1: we also know is that we have two traders inside
Speaker 1: of our party that the party leadership itself refuses to name,
Speaker 1: that the party leadership itself refuses to call out. Just
Speaker 1: this week, it was announced that the GOP put a
Speaker 1: million dollars in dark money into West Virginia. West Virginia
Speaker 1: is poor as fuck, but they are spending a million
Speaker 1: dollars on television ads to convince Joe Mansion to continue
Speaker 1: with his own personal insurrection, not nuking the filibuster, the
Speaker 1: racist ass filibuster, so that we can get voting rights done.
Speaker 1: They know how important this last lynchpin in our democracy is,
Speaker 1: and they are willing to spend that amount of money
Speaker 1: in one of the poorest states in the nation in
Speaker 1: order to ensure that people like you and me are
Speaker 1: not able to vote. We have an uphill battle ahead
Speaker 1: of us in the coming months, and frankly, folks, we're
Speaker 1: not even going to make it to the end of
Speaker 1: the year. The election is in November. You see, there
Speaker 1: is a mass exodus from Democrats to seek reelection and
Speaker 1: Why is that, Well, if you listen to some of them,
Speaker 1: they are telling you that the job has become too dangerous.
Speaker 1: There are metal detectors right now all around the Capitol building.
Speaker 1: It is not because of the presumed threat of outside
Speaker 1: agitators coming back of outside insurrectionists. Democrats are afraid of
Speaker 1: their own fucking colleagues, and yet that's not a constant
Speaker 1: topic on the news every day. They are afraid for
Speaker 1: their own lives and the lives of their family members.
Speaker 1: They're tired of the threats, and so they are leaving
Speaker 1: in mass. The same thing is happening at our city
Speaker 1: and state levels as well. Reported this week on CNN.
Speaker 1: Do you know where the Proud Boys have put their
Speaker 1: latest target. It's not on Congress, and it's not on
Speaker 1: the Senate. It's not even on the presidency. They have
Speaker 1: decided to do what Steve Bannon has been telling them
Speaker 1: to do. Go village, buy village, and take over the
Speaker 1: school boards. So then you have a bunch of white supremacists,
Speaker 1: right wingers that are on your school boards that they're
Speaker 1: dictating what's your children learn. I see in our future
Speaker 1: a mass pullout right of those that are middle income
Speaker 1: and high income to be able to pull their kids
Speaker 1: out of public schools, which will do what to poor
Speaker 1: and low income students. They will deal with dilapidated schools.
Speaker 1: They will deal with the federal government pulling out funds
Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden they need to put
Speaker 1: it into charter schools or give more money into religious schools.
Speaker 1: And this is exactly what happened after the Board, after
Speaker 1: Brown versus the Board of Education was passed. When I
Speaker 1: tell you that we are regressing right now, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. We thought that these fights were
Speaker 1: in the past, and they are right in front of us.
Speaker 1: And I do not think that the Democratic Party that
Speaker 1: we have right now is prepared or senses the urgency
Speaker 1: of this moment. So Mark and I are going to
Speaker 1: tackle this conversation and much much more coming up next, folks.
Speaker 1: I am always so happy when I get to do
Speaker 1: our monthly segment with our friend and the host of
Speaker 1: Make It Plane, Mark Thompson, for our Make It Woke
Speaker 1: monthly segment here with DCP. And it just so happens
Speaker 1: that this week, as we are ready to engage in
Speaker 1: our conversation, that it is the unfortunate anniversary of a
Speaker 1: violent attempt by Trump's supporters and enablers to overthrow our government,
Speaker 1: to thwart our democracy and institute in an era of
Speaker 1: authoritarianism and fascism in this country. All over broadcasts for
Speaker 1: this entire week, folks have been giving their thoughts and
Speaker 1: their reflections, and we've been seeing videos over and over again.
Speaker 1: And so I am very excited to sit down with you,
Speaker 1: dear friend Mark and cap off. What is a really
Speaker 1: rough first week of January? Like, my god, this isn't
Speaker 1: this is the first week of January, and I and
Speaker 1: I need a nap. How are you right? Well? Always
Speaker 1: a pleasure when we get together here to make it woke,
Speaker 1: make it wokf make it whatever we call on it.
Speaker 1: This this uh this time, it's it's fun um and
Speaker 1: uh um it Actually, you know, being with you actually
Speaker 1: helps my uh stock go up because everybody loves you.
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody does, but I appreciate that loves you.
Speaker 1: And again, one of the reasons you people love you
Speaker 1: is you cussed and I don't uh you know when
Speaker 1: I years ago when I started at at another UM
Speaker 1: entity and I was just getting started and sun custom
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, why is that the prerequisite. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was just you gonn custom people beloved. There's a
Speaker 1: mischievousness I guess, and that the people people enjoy. Um.
Speaker 1: But um, you know we we I'm not following you
Speaker 1: for that. We all should be custing right now. We're
Speaker 1: in a crazy situation and I'm gonna say something. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna custom. I'm gonna say something that's gonna sure
Speaker 1: We're gonna come off as extremely controversial. Um. The speeches
Speaker 1: January six speeches and all the positions that Biden inherit
Speaker 1: and everybody else has taken off Democrats. That's that's fine.
Speaker 1: But what people are not embracing, what people are ignoring.
Speaker 1: There was an insurrection January six. There's an ongoing insurrection
Speaker 1: going on today. Joe Mansion is a twenty four seven insurrectionist. Ye,
Speaker 1: as long as he won't nuke to filibuster. And so
Speaker 1: you know, you know how in life you can't sometimes
Speaker 1: don't see the far as for the tree. You think
Speaker 1: the fight you're in is the real fight. M h.
Speaker 1: It's kind of give an example, you know, gives a
Speaker 1: minister council couples sometimes, you know, and there's a vehicle
Speaker 1: backing up beeping like you know, but that's we're in
Speaker 1: New York, y'all something. Star. Husband's not getting along with
Speaker 1: his wife. But we just don't get long. We don't
Speaker 1: like each other. But husband, let me remind you, you're
Speaker 1: also an alcoholic. So is is what is the problem?
Speaker 1: What is the overarching problem? What is the issue that's
Speaker 1: really affecting this marriage? So here we are we in
Speaker 1: the democracy is in jeopardy is because of Trump. But
Speaker 1: then you've got this other joker who is who is
Speaker 1: also preventing democracy from going forward and putting the firewalls
Speaker 1: in place to be the John Lewis Act or whatever
Speaker 1: we're gonna call it act this time to prevent Republicans
Speaker 1: from attacking democras. January six is just one part of
Speaker 1: that pie. And I fear my dear that Republicans. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the Democrats, the leadership, the consultant class which I always
Speaker 1: call it, that's really making decisions. I think January sixth
Speaker 1: and all, we heard that in that commemoration. That's what
Speaker 1: they're gonna run on in twenty twenty two. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the one thing. And I think they
Speaker 1: think that's gonna carry people to the polls and allow
Speaker 1: them to hold the majority in the House. I think
Speaker 1: that's naive. I think that's a mistake because while Republicans
Speaker 1: and this is this is one of our faults as Democrats, progressives, liberals,
Speaker 1: people on level whatever, one of our we don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of pages. So where Republicans couldn't get roll
Speaker 1: overturned one year later in seventy four, they've been very patient,
Speaker 1: very vigilant, very diligent fifty years. Not e're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: We want it now. And I get there's a desperation
Speaker 1: in that because there's so many negative things going on,
Speaker 1: but we don't get it now. We're gonna give power
Speaker 1: back to them, and they want they want to run.
Speaker 1: Just on Jane Wary sixth, why can't Biden deliver anything now?
Speaker 1: Because of Joe Manchin. He he can't even look at it,
Speaker 1: you know which, to be honest with it, says we
Speaker 1: can't even look at him and say, Joe Biden, you
Speaker 1: really ain't doing nothing now. It's not Joe Biden not
Speaker 1: doing nothing. One man is blocking it. So that to
Speaker 1: me is the filipbuster is an insurrectionist too. Look up,
Speaker 1: Mariam go to Mary Webster Dixonary look up filibuster or
Speaker 1: filipbuster or and the definition definition is insurrectionist. That's the
Speaker 1: early definition of the world because that's what they were
Speaker 1: doing that in Latin America, trying to annex slave state
Speaker 1: by fomenting insurrections. And that's what philibusterers we're going down
Speaker 1: there to do. And so that's what Joe Mansion is doing.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just being real. And I know people
Speaker 1: all marget away when you talk that way, because we
Speaker 1: want to just oh, we want to just decried January six,
Speaker 1: January six? Jan where six? Jane where six? Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It from the lens of those of us who deal
Speaker 1: with issues of justice and racism every day. It's never
Speaker 1: just one thing. No, Dan Were, I don't know about you, Nail.
Speaker 1: Did Dan Were six surprise you? Disurprise me? You know?
Speaker 1: I forgot about it. I will say this because you've
Speaker 1: made so many good points, and so I will say
Speaker 1: this on your last question and then go back to
Speaker 1: the beginning. Okay, So did January six surprise me? Um? No?
Speaker 1: Because I did believe that something violent was going to happen.
Speaker 1: Why because Donald Trump told us that something violent was
Speaker 1: going to happen because all of his supporters said watch
Speaker 1: out because in his debate quote unquote debate or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell that was that he did with Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: he told the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo boys to
Speaker 1: stand back and stand by when he was asked to
Speaker 1: decry them. So did I think Was I surprised? No?
Speaker 1: But was I aghast? Was I horrified at the images
Speaker 1: of our Capitol building being under siege by a mob
Speaker 1: of angry, rabid white people. Absolutely, because I said this
Speaker 1: yesterday on Woke a f I hold the Capitol Building
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. In a sacred place in my
Speaker 1: heart right like I am a person who believed in
Speaker 1: the possibility of a small group of people changing things.
Speaker 1: I believed in the power of the people. It's why
Speaker 1: I went to Washington, DC after high school. It's why
Speaker 1: I studied political science, It's why I went to work
Speaker 1: on the Hill and become a fellow, It's why I
Speaker 1: do the work that I do. And so to see
Speaker 1: people desecrate that place in the manner that they did
Speaker 1: was horrifying. But it just shows me and what I
Speaker 1: said is this, and this is a question that I
Speaker 1: want to ask you too, Mark, is that you know
Speaker 1: I wrote a piece where I quoted James Baldwin in it,
Speaker 1: and James Baldwin and I think it was like nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty nine. I think it was an interview that he
Speaker 1: was doing, and he was talking about how when white
Speaker 1: people scream right about patriotism, when they say, he said,
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, give me liberty or give
Speaker 1: me death White America, the white world cheers him as
Speaker 1: a patriot. A black man and I will obstitute black
Speaker 1: person could say the very same thing word for word,
Speaker 1: and they are hailed as a criminal and in this
Speaker 1: day and age, a terrorist. Right, And so you know,
Speaker 1: the understanding, the foundation, the understanding of what it means
Speaker 1: to be a patriot. I'm going to say that these
Speaker 1: quote unquote conservatives, these Trumpers, that these people that embody
Speaker 1: Trumpism and white supremacy in such a bold way have
Speaker 1: no true understanding of what it actually means to be
Speaker 1: a patriot. Biden said in his speech. You know that
Speaker 1: you patriotism isn't just about when you win, right, It's
Speaker 1: not just about because of the power and the privileges
Speaker 1: that you receive. And so you know, do you feel
Speaker 1: that white America has an understanding even of what patriotism
Speaker 1: right and and and what democracy it's supposed to be. Well, I,
Speaker 1: unfortunately I never really shared that optimism about the capital
Speaker 1: and all of that, because it's never really been that
Speaker 1: and we're just seeing the extreme of it now. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that way twenty thirty, forty years ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: this has always been a battle. But you know, the
Speaker 1: only thing that surprised me about January sixth is that
Speaker 1: they didn't kill more people, That they literally didn't physically
Speaker 1: blow up the capital. And I think the only reason
Speaker 1: that didn't happen is because it was not very well organized.
Speaker 1: It was only organized with a handful of people, and
Speaker 1: everybody else would just sheet just following along, and once
Speaker 1: they got caught up in it, they didn't you know,
Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, let's just go And they couldn't
Speaker 1: go out front and say to the masses, let's go
Speaker 1: up here and blow up the capital. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that the dangerous place we're in is minimizing
Speaker 1: and denying that. What is also happening every single day
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill is an extension of January sixth. It
Speaker 1: continual of January sixth, and Democrats have functioned. Don't don't
Speaker 1: say anthing bad about Joe Mansion. We got to bring
Speaker 1: him along, let's kiss up, let's let's let's stroke him
Speaker 1: as much as we can. Uh, it's it's too late
Speaker 1: for that. So Democrats need to say, forget about black foot.
Speaker 1: Let's say talk about black folks. Just as a party,
Speaker 1: you have someone who's registered in your party ensuring that
Speaker 1: your party will be voted out of power. Let's just
Speaker 1: let's take away to the racial constituencies agender, because let's
Speaker 1: take away all the people in the tent, and let's
Speaker 1: just talk about the survival of the party as a
Speaker 1: corporate institution. There's a member in your camp that is
Speaker 1: working for the other side, right, and and what what
Speaker 1: do you do with that? And let mena tell us
Speaker 1: it's insurrectionist. Joe Mansion would not be the Senator if
Speaker 1: not for black and progressive voters in West Virginia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he feels a great loyally the Trump voters. Well, why
Speaker 1: don't you own anything to the people who were the
Speaker 1: margin of victory for your arrested desk? Why don't Why
Speaker 1: don't you feel like you owe something to them, and
Speaker 1: then I'm only mentioned to him because he's a little
Speaker 1: sade kick. I don't even know what Nobody knows what
Speaker 1: she's talking about, what her agend is, other than being,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of disturb the trouble off her rocket.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about sentiment. No, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if the audience knew, but
Speaker 1: y'all probably know because y'all every day, Um, what is
Speaker 1: that really all about? So so we we are at
Speaker 1: an existential crisis, so so so so to talk about
Speaker 1: January six, We're never gonna let this happen again. You're
Speaker 1: letting it happen again every day as long as Joe
Speaker 1: Mansion is a shot call, you know, and everybody knows
Speaker 1: how to get the people people, somebody says, Danielle Mark,
Speaker 1: y'all not gonna do that today. They're gonna figure out
Speaker 1: way to stop us. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 1: There is a way to check No one is. I
Speaker 1: don't know anybody who's uncheckable. Trump even tries it, and
Speaker 1: that's this is it. But that's such a good point, Mark,
Speaker 1: because nobody is uncheckable right now, right Now the GOP
Speaker 1: has put a million dollar ad buy ad right in
Speaker 1: West Virginia. It is the cheapest goddamn market in the
Speaker 1: country because they nobody fucking lived there, right a million dollars.
Speaker 1: Where the hell of the Democrats been when people have
Speaker 1: been saying, get to the people in West Virginia. Now,
Speaker 1: I know that Reverend Barber last year, in the height
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, took a bunch of folks to West
Speaker 1: Virginia to go in March. I was there, and I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but where was your backup? Where? Where was the backup
Speaker 1: from the big d Democratic Party? Where is the backup
Speaker 1: from the consulting class to put the money in the
Speaker 1: area where you know? This motherfucker's mind needs to be changed?
Speaker 1: And I continue to say, not only do I believe
Speaker 1: that Mansion and Cinema are our secret agents, because it's
Speaker 1: not a secret, but I believe that they have cut
Speaker 1: themselves a deal. When this ship goes south and Republicans
Speaker 1: gain power, I believe that they have cut themselves a deal.
Speaker 1: I would I want somebody to prove me wrong. This
Speaker 1: is one of my theories that I'm rocking with because
Speaker 1: otherwise it doesn't make any sense. Well, here's and I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. But here here's the problem. And
Speaker 1: this is where we again, we can't just talk about
Speaker 1: Dame were six twenty one. I talked about Janie with
Speaker 1: six twenty twenty two. No matter how much money I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even know why Republicans wasting their money in
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Joe Mansion is an incumbent, not a free
Speaker 1: election for a couple of years or more. He does
Speaker 1: not listen to anyone in West Virginia. They are irrelevant. So, folks,
Speaker 1: we're really talking about a maximum democratic situation. So here,
Speaker 1: I am a senator from a state and I've decided
Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to a mumbling word of
Speaker 1: a single constituent in my state. I'm gonna do whatever
Speaker 1: i want to do. And it just so happens what
Speaker 1: I want to do favors the right wing. But Joe Mansion,
Speaker 1: we went down there. There's no better statement than the
Speaker 1: people in West Virginia, white folk. I was around white
Speaker 1: people with I've never been around so many white for
Speaker 1: every one time I can't remember when who were talking
Speaker 1: about what Joe Mansion was doing to them. How Joe
Speaker 1: Mansion was hurting them. He does not care. So I
Speaker 1: don't even know the answer to that riddle. What could
Speaker 1: the backup have been? Because when we were there, it
Speaker 1: was like we were just screaming into the wind, like
Speaker 1: we were fighting, Righten Mill. And again that's the problem
Speaker 1: to see. I'm Jimmy Carters right, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: step further because then we can do this from the
Speaker 1: lens as black people, because democracy never really has worked
Speaker 1: for us, and really this system is broken and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something are in a minute, it's gonna be obsolete.
Speaker 1: And you know, Danielle and not come on here every
Speaker 1: day and the other folk we talk about, we do
Speaker 1: the political prognostication and punditry and try to figure this out.
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for none of it. So
Speaker 1: me and Danielle, I'm up from now. We might decide
Speaker 1: we need to do a sports show because we don't
Speaker 1: have no answer. We might need to do sports, Danielle,
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing, that's the only short thing
Speaker 1: you would not come on and talk about today and
Speaker 1: make some sense out of it, because You're right, you
Speaker 1: had a lost quol question. Why can't they be a backup.
Speaker 1: Go spend some money with constituents. And what I'm saying
Speaker 1: you from what I witnessed, if Democrats think ten million
Speaker 1: dollars in West Virginia, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter.
Speaker 1: It would not man, it wouldn't even matter if they
Speaker 1: changed the thousand miles and really haint them many matters
Speaker 1: and change because because because even some of them to
Speaker 1: take them. Everybody who margu who that's going the Democrat
Speaker 1: people in West Virginia know they poor man's like West
Speaker 1: Virginia is depressing. Let me tell y'all something. If you
Speaker 1: think you're doing bad in life, you need some self motivation.
Speaker 1: Go to West Virginia. If you think you have problems
Speaker 1: where you live, in your sight and your family. We
Speaker 1: went to West Virginia, and I know what I am,
Speaker 1: and I know how I'm viewed. White folks running towards me.
Speaker 1: Oh we got to talk. Wait minute, what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know, normally, when you go to the restaurant or
Speaker 1: to the watering hole, you're venting to to the people
Speaker 1: who worked there, to the bartender, to the waitress. I
Speaker 1: just reversed in West Virginia. I took you down there,
Speaker 1: we couldn't eat because folks who worked there, the waitresses
Speaker 1: in the restaurant, want to tell us about how bad
Speaker 1: they have. That's and these are means are mostly white people.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, as their telling you this,
Speaker 1: why has that man been in office from the local
Speaker 1: level all the way up to Senate for forty years? Well, see,
Speaker 1: I said, but I think that gets just another stuff
Speaker 1: because in a place like that that is so rule,
Speaker 1: you get some slick people to come in there. They
Speaker 1: can fix a lot, they can maneuver a lot. Joe
Speaker 1: Manchion has been a master maneuverer. And people don't have
Speaker 1: the energy and wherewith all people aren't organized. So somebody
Speaker 1: would name recognition can easily just keep running and keep
Speaker 1: on winning. He might continue to be elected forever. But
Speaker 1: he thinks that not only can he do that, he
Speaker 1: has to play to the interests on one side and
Speaker 1: never once to the interests of the people who really
Speaker 1: need the help. We're not again, we're not just talking
Speaker 1: about black for poor people in West Virginia need build
Speaker 1: back better. That's just the reality. It was sad if y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't think white folks and be poor go to
Speaker 1: West Virginia. It's totally unnecessary. Pain paint the picture, mark
Speaker 1: what what? Because honestly, I've never been to West Virginia.
Speaker 1: I have no desire to go there. I will never
Speaker 1: go there probably in my whole life. Um, So paint
Speaker 1: the picture for us, Um what what did you what?
Speaker 1: When you say poor? Right, are we talking about poverty?
Speaker 1: Are what are you seeing? And what are some of
Speaker 1: the things that the waitresses, the waiters, the bartenders, the
Speaker 1: service folk who you were able to engage with in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, what were they saying to you? They
Speaker 1: they didn't make enough money to make ends meet. The
Speaker 1: wages are low. So it's on the spectrum between just
Speaker 1: straight up poverty and low wages. So I didn't go
Speaker 1: into a lot of places where there was just destitution
Speaker 1: and have to I went to places I just go
Speaker 1: to restaurant and get some meat, and people would talk
Speaker 1: about and people just there's there's nothing nice down there,
Speaker 1: you know, you and I in New York, I mean
Speaker 1: you see people who who walk down the street looks
Speaker 1: like they have something. Folcus in West Virginia just trying
Speaker 1: to make it day to day. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you what else that happened you. Now you can go
Speaker 1: to place and you talk to different in different people
Speaker 1: independently of each other, but they all say the same thing.
Speaker 1: So every where we went, we don't have this, we
Speaker 1: don't have that. A lot of people want to open
Speaker 1: up about the opioid crisis down there? Why is that?
Speaker 1: Because of the desperation it's down there? Why is that?
Speaker 1: Why is there? Why are these things? No? No, I
Speaker 1: mean folks, a lot of folks to take take of us.
Speaker 1: Take denal insurance for granted, you know what it means
Speaker 1: not to have access to dental You know that can
Speaker 1: kill you. You don't take care of your dog on teeth.
Speaker 1: So you get a little piece of insurance in West Virginia,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't cover everything else to copays a high.
Speaker 1: But everywhere we went, people say the same thing. They
Speaker 1: would tell their story and then they would say this,
Speaker 1: all of them. And I'm talking to people separately, not
Speaker 1: in even in the same space. They will say this,
Speaker 1: and rever Mark, all Joe Mansion does is zipped through
Speaker 1: town in his Porsche. That's what. And I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't bring up the porch. I would I go to
Speaker 1: one place. All he does zip to shout in his
Speaker 1: sports and I go to another place. All he does
Speaker 1: is zip to town in his Porsche. Go to another place.
Speaker 1: All he does is zip through town in his Porsche.
Speaker 1: So that's what he's known for. Keep me whipping righting
Speaker 1: all through town. You know, you know, thinking he's flying
Speaker 1: with with with the hair plugs and hair plants, plant transplant.
Speaker 1: He does that and and thinks that that's he's hip
Speaker 1: and he's cool, I guess, but but it is. It
Speaker 1: is hurting the people there. I can't even say that
Speaker 1: we were down then we would like it didn't even
Speaker 1: feel like you know, you go to someplace and you
Speaker 1: could tell his parts. I can go to some states
Speaker 1: or were with the Democratic constituency here in this state. Um,
Speaker 1: in West Virginia, you can't tell from Republican because everybody's
Speaker 1: either poor laway, so I asked when I would ask him,
Speaker 1: and so I'm actually a Republican. Well, I'm an independent.
Speaker 1: This had transcended that. And what Mbarba was able to
Speaker 1: do is going in Gallvin ask some of that and
Speaker 1: and talk to some of those people and get them
Speaker 1: to try to That's why you know what I'm about,
Speaker 1: Barbara is that he's talking about a moral revival, which
Speaker 1: takes it beyond the partisan peace. This is about morality.
Speaker 1: What are we doing for people to survive? What are
Speaker 1: we doing to make it better? Corporations making big money
Speaker 1: so they can pay Joe Manchin in cinema and people
Speaker 1: can't even live. So that is that to me, folks,
Speaker 1: i'n be honest with as bad as Jane where his
Speaker 1: six was. And you know, we won't even get into,
Speaker 1: you know, the politeness of Mary Garland. Look at y'all
Speaker 1: the Puerto Rican nationals who stormed the capital in the fifties,
Speaker 1: each of them got you the fifties, seventy five years.
Speaker 1: That's simply that's the end of round him. Suckers up,
Speaker 1: give all fifty to seventy five years, just like you
Speaker 1: gave the Puerto Ricans who went in the air demanding
Speaker 1: their independence. They got fifty to seventy five years convictions
Speaker 1: for doing that. So what is the I don't understand
Speaker 1: the the hesitancy or the problem or the confusion around.
Speaker 1: I mean, we understand it, Mark, like we we understand it.
Speaker 1: We know exactly who gets the heavy sentences, We know
Speaker 1: exactly who gets the book thrown at them. And you know,
Speaker 1: I said this the other day. You know, it is
Speaker 1: the burden of proof for white America's so goddamn high.
Speaker 1: You can have an everest of information and everest of
Speaker 1: all of these things. And it's like, oh, well, we
Speaker 1: need to take our time. Merritt Garland says, yes, we
Speaker 1: need to take our time. You know, don't you know,
Speaker 1: don't don't worry. We're gonna lock these people pull up
Speaker 1: and our initial sentences are low, but they'll get higher.
Speaker 1: And that's just how justice works. And I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: justice works really interesting when it's white people that are defendants.
Speaker 1: And I said, because the person that I continue to
Speaker 1: bring up mark is Calif Browder. Calif Browder spent three
Speaker 1: years in Rikers on suspicion of stealing a backpack. Right,
Speaker 1: we have people that have been murdered, children murdered. Trayvon
Speaker 1: Martin murdered under suspicion that he was doing something wrong
Speaker 1: because he had a hood on. You had. Tamir Rice
Speaker 1: murdered under suspicion that he was doing something wrong on
Speaker 1: a playground that other twelve year olds aren't allowed to do.
Speaker 1: So if suspicion can get black people in this country
Speaker 1: lynched and beaten and murdered, trampled upon. Right, you're telling
Speaker 1: me that hardcore evidence on video and pictures and text
Speaker 1: messages can't get these motherfuckers in jail, can't get them indicted.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't. I don't feign ignorance anymore
Speaker 1: or try to convince myself that there is some place
Speaker 1: of neutrality to be at this grave moment in our country,
Speaker 1: because there isn't. And the reason why we're here is
Speaker 1: because we refuse to tell the truth. The reason why
Speaker 1: we're here is because you know, I was listening to
Speaker 1: CNN right before this and they have on this you know, extremist,
Speaker 1: this extremist researcher, this analyst, and he's saying, you know,
Speaker 1: why didn't we catch this before? And he's like, I
Speaker 1: have no idea this was being organized in plain sight.
Speaker 1: He goes, We've been telling people that this was happening.
Speaker 1: You had an FBI report that was buried twelve years
Speaker 1: ago during the Obama administration. They didn't even address it, right,
Speaker 1: because we because whiteness does not see itself and a
Speaker 1: damn sure doesn't see itself as criminal, and that that
Speaker 1: is that is in fact, the problem why didn't Why
Speaker 1: did every single police mechanism break down because they didn't
Speaker 1: see because other white people don't see themselves as a threat.
Speaker 1: That's why. And I'm liking until we address that reality,
Speaker 1: until you can put your finger and speak to that truth,
Speaker 1: I don't know where we go. So what's your favorite sport? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm about We could I could be you know, I could.
Speaker 1: I could brush up on my understanding of soccer, right,
Speaker 1: and and and do that. Do you like to cook?
Speaker 1: I do? So you could do a cooking show, make
Speaker 1: it gourmet, make it gourmet. I mean, so we got
Speaker 1: options because you know people, I know, people listen to us,
Speaker 1: and they looked to us for guidance and whatnot. I
Speaker 1: just don't know. I don't think. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody talk on phone on more. We're gonna do what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I don't know what you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: because you cannot run and win the House of January
Speaker 1: sixth alone. Now I know what they're gonna try to do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to have these hearings on during prime time.
Speaker 1: And that's fine. I mean I get all that that
Speaker 1: that don't affect some people, but voting rights to organizations
Speaker 1: that I know people out here in the grassroots everyday.
Speaker 1: People want to know what did my vote in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty do for me? Besides keep the insurrections out because
Speaker 1: they ain't stopped. And the other mistake we made was
Speaker 1: we didn't take these state and local elections seriously enough.
Speaker 1: And that's on everybody, y'all. We can't wait for the
Speaker 1: Democratic part leadership to show us how to do this.
Speaker 1: If we had been more interested in state elections, we
Speaker 1: would have elected people in these state legislatures that would
Speaker 1: have stopped that Jerrymander. This is going on. But we
Speaker 1: didn't know that. We weren't ed kid about ith were mobilized,
Speaker 1: that we were just we were just focused on the
Speaker 1: national YEP, the federal piece. So we're and I really
Speaker 1: am fearful. I don't see you at this hour a
Speaker 1: path for Democrats to hold the House, to hold the Senate.
Speaker 1: And I see Trump being I see Trump possibly even
Speaker 1: being reelected. Something is wrong, something's wrong with the messaging.
Speaker 1: Democrats haven't figured out how to stop the Beltway media
Speaker 1: from attacking them more than the right wingers. You gotta
Speaker 1: deal you gotta solve that all these articles since Biden.
Speaker 1: Biden has had more negative articles in his first year
Speaker 1: than Trump had. Do people know that no vice president
Speaker 1: has head as many negative articles written about them in
Speaker 1: their first year in the way Kamala Harris, as they interview,
Speaker 1: let's see what the rejected Trump voter thinks. Do you
Speaker 1: remember anybody? Were you too young? I remember nobody interviewing
Speaker 1: the rejected Carter voter, or the rejected Minddale voter, or
Speaker 1: the rejected Ducacus voter. Nope, or the rejected Carry voter,
Speaker 1: or the rejected Gore voter, or the rejected Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: vote that wasn't we have to glove into this this um,
Speaker 1: this species of people. But the Trump voter, what are
Speaker 1: they thinking? What are they doing? What? I mean, so
Speaker 1: that's what the bet Way meat is doing. Why because
Speaker 1: they make their money now off of clicks and if
Speaker 1: when you and when you are fascinated, when when you
Speaker 1: get I'm sorry, when you get when you can attract
Speaker 1: the fanatics, which the right wing Republicans and Fox watchers
Speaker 1: and Trump voters are, so we'd be rich today. I mean,
Speaker 1: you mean you just became Maybe that's what we Maybe
Speaker 1: we just become black Conservatives would be big as everything.
Speaker 1: We would we would get a millions of downloads because
Speaker 1: that's what fanaticism is, and that would attract that. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even think I could pretend. I
Speaker 1: don't think I could sell it. After all I've done
Speaker 1: in my life, I thought I could sell it. I
Speaker 1: had a friend in college. I forget her. Would happen
Speaker 1: to her? Crystal, Right, Crystal was GOP black girl, real
Speaker 1: popular when right before Bauman came in. But she wasn't
Speaker 1: that way. We went college, right, so it was way
Speaker 1: when did you beget this way? And then some other
Speaker 1: people exposed to say she wasn't a real conservative, she
Speaker 1: was just doing it And you never heard from Crystal.
Speaker 1: You never heard from Crystal again. So I know she
Speaker 1: couldn't sell it. I could, and not that I would.
Speaker 1: I'm just joking, y'all wouldn't want to do anything that crazy.
Speaker 1: But but that is what is driving the Beltway media recycle.
Speaker 1: The conversations and those voters are more important, not the
Speaker 1: fact that there is ongoing violence as a result. In
Speaker 1: January sixth in the streets in the Senate, it's going
Speaker 1: to get worse. Um, what six HBCUs got bombom threats
Speaker 1: to the other day. That's random and see and I
Speaker 1: didn't hear that. Of course I wasn't going to hear that,
Speaker 1: not on main not on not on the main cable
Speaker 1: news that I'm watching. Six HBCUs had to evacuate because
Speaker 1: the bomb threats the other day. Y'all remember the black
Speaker 1: church burnings, And they tried to tell us that wasn't
Speaker 1: or that was just coincidence, that wasn't coordinated. And then
Speaker 1: when they fb AD investigated that, you know, this is, oh,
Speaker 1: this was not a coordinated conspiracy to bomb black church
Speaker 1: set for out the black churches. And we said what
Speaker 1: I seemed worse because if it's a conspiracy, we can
Speaker 1: target the people in church, like Jane were six, we
Speaker 1: can target the conspirators. But when you start burning churches
Speaker 1: and threatening bombs at HBCUs and it's not coordinated, that
Speaker 1: means it's just naturally organic for white folks to do
Speaker 1: that as individually. Just wake up, I'm white today. Let
Speaker 1: me go threaten somebody. Let me bring violence to a
Speaker 1: black neighborhood or a black school HBCU, or a black church,
Speaker 1: and it'll just be me. I'm the lone wolf. Well,
Speaker 1: you got six lone wolves. That's not comforting. Six long
Speaker 1: wolves in six different states threatening black schools. What is
Speaker 1: that about? And and what radicalized them to do that?
Speaker 1: That's not being covered. What's the Trump voter doing? The
Speaker 1: Trump voter that you're covering, that you're you're lionizing and
Speaker 1: hagiographing and all of that is a part of the
Speaker 1: same group that is a not only threat to democracy,
Speaker 1: but a threat to our people. So this is some
Speaker 1: scary stuff. And make it gore mate or make it
Speaker 1: the goal you can do soccer it. We might need
Speaker 1: to figure some that out because I don't. I'm telling y'all.
Speaker 1: If you if Dick Cheney came back, if Liz Channey's
Speaker 1: daddy waterboarded me and tried to get me to say
Speaker 1: what the Democrats are doing and what they should be
Speaker 1: doing and what they can do, I'll just be drowned
Speaker 1: because I don't now. Uh, here's a nuclear option, and
Speaker 1: then I'll shut up. Joe managine is to say it,
Speaker 1: HM the Democratic Party and his partners and allies, all
Speaker 1: those in their democratics. So ain't the ones that we're
Speaker 1: in the eighties and the nineties and maybe even just
Speaker 1: two the allans folk out some money. Now you got
Speaker 1: Hollywood money. Democrats have access to montee called Joe Manchin.
Speaker 1: Would LBJ do he calls him what you said this before?
Speaker 1: Ask him what his number is? What's your number? What's
Speaker 1: your what do you Because at this point our democracy
Speaker 1: is for sale regardless, So let us all not play
Speaker 1: coy and be like, so you're a hoe and we
Speaker 1: know that, right, So what what's your price? Just just
Speaker 1: name it so that we can move the fuck on. Um,
Speaker 1: it is pretty much where we are, will Mark, I
Speaker 1: will say this, Um, I refuse to give up as
Speaker 1: of yet, so I will. But I think out of
Speaker 1: all the ideas, make it gourmet maybe be the best one.
Speaker 1: So I will. I will hold that. I will show
Speaker 1: you well cook and shows you do real well. Cook
Speaker 1: shows do great, So I will hold I will hold that. Um.
Speaker 1: But friend, I pray that we will be back around
Speaker 1: next month to delve into where where we are headed,
Speaker 1: where we where we are going. But right now I
Speaker 1: will admit the same thing that you just admitted. I
Speaker 1: don't know, um, but I know that we need to
Speaker 1: do something. So folks, once again, it was one of
Speaker 1: the insurrection. I don't want to say this. Yes, people,
Speaker 1: some of these insurrectionists who and I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: ones that she's on January six, just those who against everything,
Speaker 1: who are COVID positive and getting on airplanes and traveling
Speaker 1: and just don't care. You go get tested, you come
Speaker 1: back positive, and then you still function. Now we're no masks.
Speaker 1: That's from insurrection. You because you're hurting your neighbor. This
Speaker 1: omicron is real. People are dying again. I had a
Speaker 1: good friend passed away who was double vaxxed and boosted.
Speaker 1: And I'm not getting into the effectiveness of the vaccines.
Speaker 1: We know that. You know, as I said, the vaccine
Speaker 1: is going preventing all. The vaccine mitigates the possibility of
Speaker 1: you having worse symptoms and maybe even dying. But even
Speaker 1: that's not a guarantee. This is nothing to play with, folks.
Speaker 1: Be careful, stay home if you can. These these these
Speaker 1: mayors New York and Chicago, forcing these children and teachers
Speaker 1: to come to school when they know it's not safe.
Speaker 1: And let'st thing I'm gonna say it is even here
Speaker 1: in New York and Chicago. These mayors, black males who
Speaker 1: are back back business with big money here in New York.
Speaker 1: Eric Adams got Bloomberg behind him. Bloomberg and all his
Speaker 1: friends can't afford to buy the most effective mass there
Speaker 1: is the king of ninety five, every student, every teacher,
Speaker 1: every day in this country. Do that if you want
Speaker 1: to force people go to school, so you can open
Speaker 1: up commerce and go to Eric Adams said in New York,
Speaker 1: go to Dunkin Donuts to help the people there who
Speaker 1: don't who are not educated, which is a due for a
Speaker 1: a statement. Then give people in that can ninety five man,
Speaker 1: you got the money, you can naifist mans don't cost
Speaker 1: that much. We can't get him though, but you can't
Speaker 1: Bloomberg and everybody else. Get everybody. So you want to
Speaker 1: stop guns, well, corona is killing as many people as
Speaker 1: guns are. So get everybody a kN ninety five man's
Speaker 1: the children, the teachers, the uneducated, duncan donors people, and
Speaker 1: maybe we can be better off because that's the only
Speaker 1: man that actually stops the droplets for being transmitted, y'all.
Speaker 1: So that those are things that to me are still
Speaker 1: insurrection as we need. I'm a preacher. Now we need
Speaker 1: a resurrection, and the resurrection is a renewal. It's a
Speaker 1: renewal of spirit, of renewal of ideas where at least
Speaker 1: one year we can stop. How can we do better?
Speaker 1: Danielle does her show. Danielle can't do work the same
Speaker 1: way every year. She I do wok it this way
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. I'm just gonna do the same
Speaker 1: old thing in twenty twenty two. No, you'll come up
Speaker 1: with something new and innovative. That's you resurrecting yourself. That's
Speaker 1: what spring is. M do both. We need resurrections of
Speaker 1: ideas when it comes to democracy in this country, not insurrection.
Speaker 1: So I'm through. I'm sorry a man. Thank you, Mark. No,
Speaker 1: I I appreciate that. And that is actually the positivity
Speaker 1: that I want to end on that I tried desperately
Speaker 1: to do. Folks, Mark appreciate that might be our new thing.
Speaker 1: I think that tweet tweet me if that is what?
Speaker 1: If that is actually what you want to see? What
Speaker 1: can Mark and I cook up today? All right, folks,
Speaker 1: That is it for this edition of Make It Woke.
Speaker 1: Make sure that if you are not following Mark, that
Speaker 1: you do and follow the show. We do do more videos,
Speaker 1: make macause people want to see what you're cooking. So
Speaker 1: we'd be we'd be, we'd be raveling rich for author
Speaker 1: Steward don't don't and all them people listen say dont
Speaker 1: don't let him do that. Y'all don't need that kind
Speaker 1: of competition. But I'm telling y'all, y'all don't want to
Speaker 1: step in that lane. Massen with y'all stuff, right, I'll
Speaker 1: get this other thing together. That is it for me,
Speaker 1: dear friends today on Woke f As always, Power to
Speaker 1: the people and to all the people. Power, get woke
Speaker 1: and stay woke as fuck.