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Speaker 2: Do you think people that are creating AI have humanity

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Speaker 1: shout out to Garrett van Fleet. Garrett van Fleet, known

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Speaker 1: in our parts of Western Jersey as First Touch Net

434
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Speaker 1: Last to touch backboard. Was a monster in sixth grade?

435
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Speaker 1: Has not grown since? Were that monster in sixth grade? Like,

436
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: and so is China right now? And you know that

437
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: kind of keeps the world at bay because everyone's scared.

438
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Speaker 1: And who would have ever thought that atomic bombs were

439
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 1: actually going to lead to peace? That's the most countertake

440
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: ever if we're sitting and doing this podcast in nineteen

441
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Speaker 1: forty nine. And that's why I actually think this whole

442
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Speaker 1: AI demonization reminds me a lot of the atomic bomb.

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Speaker 1: It is one of my hypothesis. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm right or not, but I don't think a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of people in nineteen fifty thought the atomic bomb was

446
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Speaker 1: going to be the anchor to unprecedented peace.

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Speaker 2: It's the ultimate checks and balances there you go, So.

448
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Speaker 1: What if AI became the ultimate balance to work life balance?

449
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Speaker 5: Wow?

450
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Speaker 2: So would AI within countries? In your mind? Could that?

451
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Speaker 2: Is it a race within countries to have the ultimate

452
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Speaker 2: AI because then you have the biggest atomic bomb.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think they could come outized. You know,

454
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Speaker 1: you hit a certain level much like atomic bombs where

455
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Speaker 1: it's like maybe like I'm not educated enough, Maybe our

456
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: atomic bombs slightly better than China's or vice versa, but

457
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: the punchline is to both the fucking atomic bomb. I

458
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: think AI is gonna, you know, everyone's like which model.

459
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Speaker 1: I think it's like big data in my marketing world.

460
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: Eventually you realize that the IRS and Visa, MasterCard and Walmart,

461
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: like everyone had enough data that it kind of got commoditized.

462
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Speaker 1: I have a funny and you see it now right.

463
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Speaker 1: It's not like I have to predict on this, Like

464
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Speaker 1: most of this shit is like, oh today, Nano did

465
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Speaker 1: this and tomorrow open Like it all feels like there's

466
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Speaker 1: thirteen that are all Higgs Field versus you know, Runway,

467
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Speaker 1: Like it feels like all of them are kind of

468
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Speaker 1: like one upping each other every fucking week and they're

469
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Speaker 1: all just like gonna be fucking epic and like what

470
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Speaker 1: a brain fuck. Like, for example, I think I'm gonna

471
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Speaker 1: launch a music album because of AI. I have a

472
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Speaker 1: lot of things I want to say, and i'd be

473
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Speaker 1: a great rapper, big issue. I have no musical talent,

474
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: but the words I say are very much in that

475
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Speaker 1: vein which I think has led to my popularity. And

476
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: I love hip hop and I want to make it

477
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: for myself. And then I just might leak it and

478
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Speaker 1: sell forty million elbows?

479
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Speaker 2: Do you feel okay with the booing at the commencement speech?

480
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Speaker 2: That will happen to you if you make an AI

481
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Speaker 2: album of music.

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Speaker 1: Yes, which is why I wouldn't do it until I

483
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Speaker 1: felt the world felt that that was okay. Like I

484
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Speaker 1: want to do it now, but I have a very

485
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Speaker 1: good feeling. Not only would I get booed, I might

486
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Speaker 1: even get stabbed, and I prefer not to get stabbed.

487
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Speaker 1: And very honestly, I'm too empathetic because I love the

488
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Speaker 1: music genre and I love all of those artists, so

489
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: many friends and so many people I admire. I know

490
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Speaker 1: it's not the right timing now, and I want to

491
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Speaker 1: understand what the culture, what humanity feels about it. But

492
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Speaker 1: the technology is there, and I know it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It's already happened if we go less existential.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And I got a lot of people from the states

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Speaker 2: that I live in, Tennessee, Arkansas, Iowa, Alabama that are

497
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Speaker 2: watching this.

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Speaker 3: Well.

499
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Speaker 2: AI doesn't really affect me, but I would love to

500
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Speaker 2: know how it could affect me positively. How can somebody

501
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Speaker 2: that has a normal joby going in grind in a way,

502
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Speaker 2: how could they use AI to benefit their lives?

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of ways. I mean I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, first of all, it's just opportunity. You know again,

505
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: it's Internet, it's social media, it's pure opportunity. So I

506
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: think first you just got to spend five hours using

507
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Speaker 1: AI to educate yourself about AI.

508
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Speaker 2: It's very meta, so just getting on like yeah, just

509
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: a claude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, like you know, listen, I

511
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: have offices in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I do a lot of

512
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Speaker 1: stuff in Minnesota. Like I've been very middle of America

513
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: out even though I'm a Jersey boy my whole life.

514
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is a Middle America versus coastal

515
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Speaker 1: versus first world country versus third world country. I think

516
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Speaker 1: this is just mindset. There's unlimited people in Middle America

517
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Speaker 1: that are ready deep into claude and open AI, and

518
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: there's unlimited people on the coasts that are demonizing it.

519
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: This is just a human binary thing of are you

520
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: an optimist or you a pessimist? Right, And I think

521
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: if you're an optimist or if you're in the middle,

522
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: if you're purple, not red or blue on this right now.

523
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: I hope this is the podcast that just gets you

524
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: to download it at least taste it. You know, I'm

525
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: not even going to get into harnesses and personal computers

526
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: and open claw and like all the shit I'm already

527
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: doing and others that are very off the charts doing.

528
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: I think, just using it for information. But like when

529
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Speaker 1: we get into agentic, agent's like eventually, just so everyone knows,

530
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: in fifteen years, your AI is going to be shopping

531
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Speaker 1: for you, reordering stuff for you. I think the biggest

532
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Speaker 1: pro for AI. Let me just curve all this because

533
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I want everyone to hear this. This is often the

534
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: singular thing that gets people to look at this technology

535
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: slightly differently. The biggest pro is what it's doing in medicine.

536
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Speaker 1: Here's a trade. Let me ask you this very simple question.

537
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: If I told you that this is how life would

538
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: have worked out if AI was not invented like it

539
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: just seven years ago, you won't lose your job. You

540
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: won't I like it. But your daughter's going to be

541
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: diagnosed with a deadly disease that was unable to be

542
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: found without AI and will pass away at thirteen years old.

543
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't like it, correct I just have a funny

544
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: feeling everyone's going to trade the job part for the

545
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: health and well being and the extra decade with their

546
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: mom and the extra sixty years with their daughter. And

547
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly a static about AI medicine because people's lives

548
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: are about to be saved at an unprecedented level. So

549
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm very bullish on that. And as far as the

550
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: job part, where does accountability come in? Right now, you're

551
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, you were being told information that

552
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: you should put in the work of fifty to one

553
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: hundred hours to know how to use AI and that

554
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: will help you either create a side hustle or get

555
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: another job. Now the question is are you going to

556
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: do it or are you tired, lazy, non motivated, indifferent

557
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: and you're not going to put in that hours? And

558
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: this is your strategy. And if you're listening at home,

559
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: I've just crossed my fingers and I'm about to do

560
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: the whole I just blew to air in my mouth,

561
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: big cheeks. Is this your strategy? Because that is not

562
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: a strategy when there's a big technology, and people should

563
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: know that. If you're grown, if you're over forty, you

564
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: watch what the internet did you watch what social media did?

565
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: You watch what the iPhone did? You should not be

566
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: delusional to how big of an opportunity and how much

567
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Speaker 1: of a risk is in play with this new technology.

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Speaker 6: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

569
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Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: It scares a lot of people because I think that's

571
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Speaker 2: what gets the most. It's going to strain the most.

572
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm those videos are being fed the most because most

573
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Speaker 2: more people are commenting on them. The videos of AI

574
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Speaker 2: doing good do not hit as hard because again, they're

575
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Speaker 2: not getting the same amount.

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Speaker 1: As someone who's been putting out content that is good

577
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. I'm very aware that people

578
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: peddling negativity and hate do better than me that are

579
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: pedaling love and optimism. I just don't care.

580
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Speaker 2: I guess my point is a lot of people are

581
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Speaker 2: just seeing all the negatives with AI because those videos

582
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: do better and they're served more.

583
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: And I'm asking people to be fucking adults, yes, and

584
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: do three sixty work and be accountable. They're listening to

585
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: us right now. I'm telling all of you right now, verbinum,

586
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: that ais likely the best thing that's ever happened to you.

587
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Now what now you get to decide if you believe

588
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: me or if you believe someone else. I would just

589
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: tell you that. Let me tell you my twenty years

590
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: of receipts. I've made content for twenty years, giving you

591
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: all the angles of opportunity for yourself. And I've told

592
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: you the whole time that I cannot help you. You

593
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: can help yourself. Now, let me tell you who's peddling

594
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: all this stuff that's scaring you. You're not capable. I'm

595
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna scare you and vote for me or give me

596
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: your money, and I'll help you. You decide who you

597
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: want to listen to. That's some real fucking talk.

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00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you because I've been able to

599
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Speaker 2: see the advantages of it. I also understand the fears

600
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: of it because that's what people are being fed the most,

601
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: because that's what's getting the most reacts.

602
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but at one point is there accountability?

603
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: There's not.

604
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I understand we're in the greatest era of

605
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: pointing fingers and we don't like to point thumbs. I

606
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: have a problem. You're grown, and you will pay the

607
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: consequences of your actions if you literally are not willing

608
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: to be accountable, if you do not want to put

609
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: in the work to take advantage of these opportunities. Maybe

610
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: there's an argument that you should.

611
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Lose, so survival of the fittest a bit.

612
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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a big fan of balance. I am as

613
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: purple as it back to like middle versus coast, Like,

614
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Speaker 1: you will not find a more purple fucker than me.

615
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: I am Grimace, like.

616
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Speaker 2: In my head, I had really, Yeah, in my head.

617
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Speaker 1: I know that some youngsters might think Barney were a

618
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: little how old are you forty six? Man? You look

619
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Speaker 1: he looks you guys are pissed, right, he looks too good? No, really,

620
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: you look alone. I didn't realize. So we are Grimace

621
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Speaker 1: under thirty five year olds, probably not Barney. Yeah, but

622
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Speaker 1: I'm very purple, So I'm not one of these like

623
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: fuck it, Like I believe in you know, some levels

624
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: of you know, government and some levels of but I

625
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: think we I think both sides are so off the

626
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: reservation right now, everyone's furlescent, blue, radical red for.

627
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: The same reason.

628
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Right, That's that's what I get shown to us. The

629
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: things bad news. Everyone, I'm about to say something that's

630
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna hurt your feelings. You're all the same, you know that, right, Yeah,

631
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: you're literally actually the same person. You're just on the

632
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: other side of the coin. But you are on full

633
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: tilt that you believe someone's gonna save you. How about

634
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: that shit, you believe someone's gonna save you. They've both

635
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: tricked you. That these this is what's bad and I

636
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: can help you, and let me break that down to

637
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: what that makes you a los her. Sorry, if you

638
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: think fucking a president or a governor or a mayor

639
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: is gonna save your life, you're in big trouble. And

640
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad. I'm sad. That's what I put out

641
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: so much content. I'm desperate for you to understand you're

642
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: in control and you're capable.

643
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: I found that sensibility is not the most shared, like

644
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: it's the enemy of being entertaining. Therefore, it is not

645
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: the most shared because it doesn't keep people on social media.

646
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I think that's accountability time. Like

647
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: this whole idea that what you're saying right now, I

648
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: so understand. But just to remind you, pre Internet, pre

649
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Speaker 1: social media, people chose to turn on CNN or Fox.

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Speaker 1: People chose to read the New York Times or the

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Speaker 1: New York Post. People have made these choices for a

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Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 2: They weren't as polar than well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, again, I got f's in school, but

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Speaker 1: I got a's and b's in history. Like the nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties were super.

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Speaker 2: Polariz I wasn't. I don't know about the sixties.

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Speaker 1: No, No, you didn't live the sixties. But you're a

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Speaker 1: smart dude. Why, like, what do you like confused right now?

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Speaker 2: You known't know. I'm not help me here.

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Speaker 1: You're confused about the sixties. You don't know anything. I

662
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: do know about the sixties.

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Speaker 2: And I have talked to people that are older than

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Speaker 2: me and said, hey, what's more divisive Vietnam the sixties

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Speaker 2: or today?

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Speaker 1: Do you know how humans work? When you're older, you

667
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Speaker 1: think it's more extreme. It's also recency bias, bro. Everyone

668
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: was getting shot in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we haven't had a can't state for sure.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, it's all of them, it's MLK RFK JFK.

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Speaker 1: People forget that Gerald Ford had multiple assassination attempts on him.

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Speaker 1: Reagan bleeding into the early eighties, like Lenin, like you know,

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Speaker 1: like it was, I mean, you can't even comprehend the

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Speaker 1: racial tenison, like we still feel it, like think about

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Speaker 1: where we're now with racism and racial tensions today, you

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Speaker 1: understand the insanity that was the sixties. I think, and

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Speaker 1: here's what happened the seventies and eighties is called fatigue.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually really pumped. I'm gonna put it on wax

679
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: right now because I'm gonna clip this shit in fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: We're starting the earliest process of fatigue right now.

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Speaker 2: But fatigue to be seen as a positive.

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Speaker 1: I see it as a positive. Okay, it's a reset.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's like putting our issues under the rug.

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Speaker 1: I think we've battled it out, you know, fighting. I

685
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Speaker 1: don't know, like you know where you grew up, But

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Speaker 1: like me and my in the eighties and Jersey at

687
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Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Elementary School, I learned it early, which

688
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Speaker 1: is like you hate someone, you fight, and then weirdly

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Speaker 1: you're like boys like boys. Yeah, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: in the Macro we've been fighting here for a minute now,

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Speaker 1: and like I'm actually again, I'm an optimist on this.

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Speaker 1: I believe in human beings. I think we will have

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Speaker 1: a seventies and eighties to this sixties. I think people

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Speaker 1: will be fascinated by the twenty thirties and twenty forties,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My question has always been is this super cyclical?

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Speaker 2: Like are we just doing exactly again? And which is

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Speaker 2: why I would ask about the late sixties, early seventies

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Speaker 2: in that time period and compare it to now, because

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Speaker 2: it just seems like it's then now, except with better technology.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, it'd be nice of me to just say

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Speaker 1: it's exactly same. There'll be different nuances. Anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: One person can change the course of history, right, one president,

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Speaker 1: one dictator, one you know, kud Ata. Like, I'm not

705
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Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say it's exactly the same, but

706
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: humans do repeat the same things over and over if

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Speaker 1: you go deep enough in history, and like, yeah, I'm optimistic, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll ask you a direct question, and

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00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: then I'm just looking for the body language of the

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Speaker 1: four behind the camera. I've noticed people that were red

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00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: hot on politics completely calm down in the last two

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Speaker 1: three years. Just people get tired of yelling into the wind.

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Speaker 1: You can only tweet so much anger, Like eventually you're

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Speaker 1: just gonna be lonely. And so I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: really hopeful, and I think I think there's a lot more.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more understanding. For example, when

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Speaker 1: I opened my Chattanooga, Tennessee office for my agency in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen and was looking at Des Moines,

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Speaker 1: Iowa Louisville, a lot of my employees and my clients

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Speaker 1: were like, why are you doing that. I'm like, well,

721
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: because you know, I want to be in the trenches,

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Speaker 1: because you know, America's pretty different in the middle than

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Speaker 1: the coast. And they were like, it is. I was

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Speaker 1: so stunned by the naivete that there was like some

725
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Speaker 1: real cultural divides between like just genuinely literally clients, like

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Speaker 1: executives are big companies being like, it's not that different.

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00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a little more different than you think.

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Speaker 1: I like that we kind of know that it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different, and I like that I can see

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Speaker 1: people starting to blend. I just see it. Listen. What

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Speaker 1: I do for a living is watch people at scale

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Speaker 1: on the internet, look at data, look at behaviors, read

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Speaker 1: qualitative data, read the four chance and the reddits and

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Speaker 1: the Twitter. I just watch. This is what I like

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Speaker 1: to do. It's how I think about business and how

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Speaker 1: I think about life. I'm telling all of you there's

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Speaker 1: a crack in the anger. And I think it's beautiful

738
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Speaker 1: and I'm excited and I hope it gets super momentum.

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Anything can change it. But there is a crack in

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Speaker 1: the anger people are of you know, here you are

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: six years later and you're like, man, I had a

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Speaker 1: best friend for twenty two years. We haven't talked in

743
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Speaker 1: six years. For what? Because we saw the world differently?

744
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Speaker 1: As if you know what blows me away? Having the

745
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: audacity to think every human on earth should see life

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Speaker 1: exactly the way you see it, As if when I

747
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Speaker 1: first came out on the scene public speaking, I cursed

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Speaker 1: a lot. I've already been cursing here a little bit

749
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Speaker 1: when I went to the South. I went to Burningham, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and I started doing my Gary Vee thing, and boy

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Speaker 1: oh boy, and I remember like the host was a

752
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: little bit like was trying to be mean to the crowd,

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Speaker 1: and I stopped him. I said, no, No, this is

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Speaker 1: a crowd that if you got raised by your grandma,

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Speaker 1: and we're told like cursing is the devil? Who am

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Speaker 1: I just because I grew up in the streets of

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Speaker 1: Jersey where cursing was every Third world word. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have the audacity, especially to go into someone else's home.

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00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: I was in Birmingham, they weren't in new And I

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Speaker 1: think that we've forgotten how to respect the home you

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Speaker 1: walk into. We've forgotten. And so if I have to

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Speaker 1: take my shoes off because that's your house rules, I

763
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: will take my damn shoes off, even if those aren't

764
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Speaker 1: my house rules. And so courtesy civility lost art that

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Speaker 1: I have a funny feeling is in the early stages

766
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Speaker 1: of bubbling up in a good way, and I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: that trend.

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Speaker 2: This has been a very positive last half hour. So

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Speaker 2: I like to say thank you for that, because you

770
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Speaker 2: have a positive feeling about AI. You have a positive

771
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Speaker 2: feeling about where society is going. And I don't feel

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Speaker 2: like you're just saying it for the effect. I feel

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Speaker 2: like you believe it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I have the luxury with you of you knowing my

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Speaker 1: content enough that this is not what I've been saying

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00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: about society for twelve years. You know, yeah, I do

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00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: see it. I'm incredibly hopeful that it's true. I'm incredibly

779
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm a streat kid. I'm not naive that it can

780
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: turn in a dime. We saw the horrific assassination attempt

781
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: of Trump. Could you imagine if that bullet lands that

782
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: changes the power to anything can happen, that's life. But

783
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I would say that I am optimistic and I will

784
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: say this to everyone. Here's a good one. I really hope.

785
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: By the way, if what I'm about to say changes

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00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: one person, then this is like the best use of

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00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: my time. And thank you for the opportunity. If you're

788
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: just listening for the last twenty minutes and you can

789
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: feel like you're tired of fighting, stop fighting. I just

790
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: think a lot. I think people are tired. Bro, Like,

791
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: how much hate can you deploy in one lifetime? Why

792
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself why I hate no one?

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00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not pumped about a murderer, like, but

794
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: my brain goes into like, damn, whatever happened to that childhood?

795
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: Really fucking sucks for that poor kid. Obviously, you can't

796
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: condemn taking another person's life, but I don't default, like

797
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: and then people are like wanting to like cancel and

798
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: fight because you see some policy issued there. And by

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00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: the way, we live in the United States. Move. Do

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00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: you know what epic the United States. Is this whole

801
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: Forefathers thing. They wrote it perfectly. Don't like Texas, go

802
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: to California, don't like New York, go to Florida, don't

803
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: like you know, don't like you know, Connecticut. Go to

804
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Don't like New Hampshire. Go to Tennis. And

805
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: the fact that we have options and don't need it's

806
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: not like Europe or like fuck you got it, you know,

807
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: like it's pretty cool, right, but stop hating people. What

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Speaker 1: the fuck.

809
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Speaker 2: End on, dad gang? We're talking about a freaking yeah, yeah,

810
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: tell me more about that.

811
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Speaker 1: This is a great American story, Like just three buddies

812
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs built it. You know. I've had some success with

813
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: fashion brands Segum and Stables and other hat forward brand

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00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: is Max I just got involved with early on in

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00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: his career several years ago. And first of all, I

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00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: just think like fatherhood is the coolest. I think a

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00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: lot of people take a lot of pride in trying

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Speaker 1: to be a good dad. I think we have an

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Speaker 1: incredible rise of good fathering. In fact, I actually think

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Speaker 1: fathering is finding a purple. I don't know if all

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Speaker 1: of you were paying attention to this, but I love

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00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: that like, you could be nice, but you could also

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00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: be like cry when you lose and fuck eighth place

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Speaker 1: trophies and be a man and like, you know, I

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: talked to my son the other day. He's thirteen, and

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Speaker 1: I finished the sentence with like, I'm not your mom,

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Speaker 1: I'm here to be your dad, bro, and manned him up.

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Speaker 1: I bodied him a little bit and it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: And I just think fatherhood and being a dad is

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00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: in a nice era right now. I really actually think

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00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: it's one of the things that are getting to purple

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Speaker 1: the quickest. I think that's gonna beautiful for a generation

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00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: of children. So this brand and this entrepreneurial venture of

834
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: me getting involved in has been really fruitful because I

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: love anything that is selfish and selfless. I love like, oh,

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00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: this could be a good investment. I could make some

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00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: paper for me and my family while also supporting something

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00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: that if we make being a dad cool and being

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00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: a good dad cool, well that's just good for Society's

840
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: similar to friends. I don't know if you know what

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00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing with that. That's my Pokemon Marble. Those are

842
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty characters, you know, you know, Fearless Fairy, ambitious, angel, empathy, elephant,

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00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: patient Panda where I get to like be a ninety

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00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: back to you being forty six. Do you remember our

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: cartoons where like he Man would be he Man and

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00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: at the end he'd be like and remember kids, you know,

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00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: remember boys, be nice to your sister. I go like,

848
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: rug and hug my sister because a man told me.

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Speaker 1: You know, our cartoons had a message. And that's what

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00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do with v friends, And that's where

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00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: I am a little bit in my life. Now. I

852
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunities. But with this, I was

853
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: like seeing the pride. I've watched a lot of people

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00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: wear this hat. I've talked to some people long before

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00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: I even knew who was behind him, like hey, why

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00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: do you rock that hat? Literally? And because I'm Gary

857
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: Vee and I talk about this shit, people like crying

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00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: me like my dad was terrible. I want to be

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Speaker 1: a good dad to my one year old, Like really cool,

860
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Speaker 1: gnarly shit. So I'm really proud of those guys. I'm

861
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: excited to be involved rep up the marketing, build a business. Look,

862
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: I believe in the American dream more than anybody. I'm

863
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: a byproduct of it. It is still uncomfortably real, even

864
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: though people try to tell you it's not and they're

865
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: living it. Well.

866
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time. I'm also a Kaboom guy because

867
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: of you.

868
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, dude, Can you guys have me back so

869
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: we could just talk an hour on collectibles. I believe

870
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: collectibles is on the pre dawn of joining music, sports

871
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: and fashion as a lifestyle genre. Everyone's collecting something handbags,

872
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, lea boo boo's, like vintage clothes for the ladies, watches, sneakers.

873
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's insane how big kaboom has gotten

874
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: if everybody doesn't know what the hell we' talking about.

875
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: We're talking about a insert in Panini sports cards called

876
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Kaboom that have just gone completely ballistic. If you go

877
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: to eBay right now and type in Kaboom card, you'll

878
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: be blown away. I lost out on a Bruns and

879
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Gold Kaboom last week, and I'm so angry at myself

880
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: because I have deep pockets and I shouldn't been a

881
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: puss and I should have been one more time. And

882
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: now I don't know if I'll forget one, and if

883
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: he wins a title here, which, please God, please, could

884
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: we end with back to Middle America. Middle of America.

885
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm coming. The Knicks are playing the Spurs in San

886
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: Antonio or the Thunder in Oklahoma City. So I'm excited

887
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: to see all of you. If you listen to the pod,

888
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: when do you guys put this out soon? Good? If

889
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: you listen to this pod and you see me in

890
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: the arena, come and say hi, let's stap it up

891
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: because we're like minded people and got a lot of

892
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: love for you, and so thank you for having me.

893
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really appreciate a big fan.

894
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

895
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

896
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Heys. So, in this clip, Caroline Hobby catches up with

897
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: ray Lynn to talk about life and family and new music.

898
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: And if you like this clip, I would hope you

899
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: go over and you subscribe to Get Real with Caroline Hobby.

900
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: Ray Len gives an update on her daughter and talks

901
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: about her big goal of landing in number one. So

902
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this are you. It's not super long,

903
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: but I hope you enjoy it, and again, if you

904
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: do enjoy it, go over and hit subscribe on Get

905
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Real with Caroline Hobby. Carl Line. She's a queen and

906
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: talking and a song.

907
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: She's getting really not afraid to feel the tens and so.

908
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 4: Just let it flow.

909
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: No one can do WEEKD cary Line is sounding Caroline.

910
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: I'm so excited to be hearing Raylyn.

911
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: We're back. We're new studio, new vibes, new studio news,

912
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: same us. What are the same? I think we have

913
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: the same energy.

914
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: What has changed since I talked to you last?

915
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: It's been like what two years? Maybe?

916
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I mean year and a half at least,

917
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: because it's a winter time, so.

918
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: My team has changed. My I put out some new

919
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: music since I've seen you. I went on I was

920
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: what tour did I do last time?

921
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 5: Right?

922
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: Did the Jason Eldane tour, which was so fun. He's

923
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: the best. I'm trying to think. Daisy's gotten older. My daughter,

924
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Daisy's four, she'll be five end of end of this summer,

925
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: in September. It is crazy watching her, like literally you

926
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: blink and they're it's just like so it just makes

927
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: me very emotional. Mother's Day was yesterday. Mother's Day was yesterday.

928
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: I had a great Mother's Day. I just I mean,

929
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: we just kind of hung out, but stay by the pool,

930
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 3: went I had lunch. We went and got Lady Bird

931
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 3: Taco Daisy loves Keso, I love Keeso. And then we

932
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: got that for lunch and then uh, we just hung

933
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: out and then what was after that? And then we

934
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: ordered we have chanks for dinner, and then we the

935
00:46:54,680 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: spicy chicken with white rice. Definitely that was crazy. I'm

936
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: not a vegetarian, It's actually funny. I'm more like I'm

937
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: a low meditarian. I'm pretty low car because of my diabetes,

938
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: so like I am health conscious because I have to be.

939
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: And then and then we went to Dairy Queen and

940
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: got some ice cream.

941
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 5: So it was a very like such a text you're

942
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 5: such are your texts?

943
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 3: I like yes and no, I get the eminem blizzard.

944
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: They like know me there?

945
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: Now you that often?

946
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I at least go twice a week. We're even.

947
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: But I get like, there's a day queen by our house,

948
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: and what I know, I we go to this playground

949
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: right by. So we go to the playground, I mean

950
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: days ago getting ice cream, Like I just get like

951
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: a mini and because I know how to bullis for

952
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: it with my diabetes, Like I know exactly how much

953
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: insulin to take, and you know it's just our thing.

954
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 5: So that's really good to get. Like you are you

955
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 5: kind of a creature of habit with food.

956
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a creature with food, and especially like the

957
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: thing is what I figured out with with type one diabetes. Yes,

958
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: it is like I know the things that I can

959
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: eat that are good for my blood sugar, and I

960
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: know exactly how much to take insulin for and so

961
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: and then I have like a few indulges that I'm like, Okay,

962
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 3: I can have an eminem mini blizzard and I can

963
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: take two point sixty units for it and it's not

964
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: gonna hit me as much as like you know, but

965
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't do it all the time. So it's like,

966
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: but I've gotten to the point where, like I now

967
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: am so stabilized in my blood sugar that I can

968
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: have those treats. Is that because you've regulated your feet?

969
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 5: Yes? Did you have a moment where You're like, I

970
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: need change my life because oh yeah, I'm feeling awful

971
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 5: and not having control.

972
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean especially being on tour you started

973
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: six Yeah, I mean I remember when I was out

974
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: on tour with like even Blake, like back in the

975
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: early days going out with like Marin, like that was

976
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 3: like those tours, like we're we're just I was always

977
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 3: trying to figure out the right pattern and the right

978
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: amount of insulind to take.

979
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 5: But so you're starting touring and at the same time

980
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 5: you're having to navigate like a huge.

981
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: Health I'm always navigating. But that's like people don't even

982
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 3: realize they see invisible disease. You know. It's like people

983
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: don't see it, but it's something that we we well

984
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: and was thinking of about it.

985
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 5: You talk about it openly, but like we don't. You

986
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: talk about it and you're so bubbling ute and handling

987
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 5: it all, but like we don't think about like what

988
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 5: a day in and day out goes on to have

989
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: to like manage that.

990
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: Well, you just always have. Like I now have my

991
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: new pump. It's like connected to my phone, so I

992
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: can see what my blood sugar is. Let's see what

993
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: it is right now, that's probably my blood sugar is.

994
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: I hope it's a good number because I'm really embarrassed.

995
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: One ninety it's not great, not one okay Oha. The

996
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: traffic has stressed me out, so it's having stress stop it.

997
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 3: Stress will spike your blood sugar, so.

998
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 5: You just have to stay like eating well, perfectly pretty

999
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 5: centered in nervous system.

1000
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: How do you keep your nervous system called prayer and

1001
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: Jesus and writing songs. It's so funny because I was

1002
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: having a really stressful day and this just goes to

1003
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: show the power of songwriting and being around really great people.

1004
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: But my sugar was like two fifty when I got

1005
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: to So, what's really high? I mean two fifties high?

1006
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's granted what you what you think is high?

1007
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: I mean for me, like I would say that's high

1008
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 3: because I don't sit in that spot. But right when

1009
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: I got to the writing room and I started writing,

1010
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: my my sugar like went down to a normal level

1011
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: within an hour, and I was just like, this is

1012
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: my happy place.

1013
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: You love writing songs.

1014
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: I love writing songs, and I love I love touring.

1015
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: I love I love my life. God is good.

1016
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 5: Tell me what take Tell me what you love about

1017
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 5: your life, breaking down what I rank it for me,

1018
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: how it all fits in.

1019
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: You know, I always I always think about this, and

1020
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: I think it's easy as an artist to you know

1021
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: kind of I mean, I always want to I have

1022
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: goals that I want to hit exactly, Like I like,

1023
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: I want a number one song on country radio and

1024
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: I want, but you've had a single, I've had number

1025
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: one record, but never like God Made Girls didn't go

1026
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: number one, No, it was top it was top fifteen.

1027
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: But you had one else that got RNG but it

1028
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: was but it was it went platinum because you know

1029
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: songs or song. Yeah, it was huge and then re

1030
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: Triangle did really well, but it didn't go number one.

1031
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: But it's like, do you know the Black CROs have

1032
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: never had a number one song. I'm pretty sure that's awesome.

1033
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 5: Those are Michael's cousins, mean if he pats really but yes,

1034
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 5: but I think about that because he's grown up like

1035
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: I idolizing them and loving music, and it's like, you

1036
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: can be number one songs are great. Yes, that does

1037
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 5: not determine the success of a song.

1038
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: But you know, I think it's still good to have

1039
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: those goals and pray for those things. You just want

1040
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: it to have it well and to like, I mean,

1041
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm just I would love to see if it happen.

1042
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: But I always like think about the fact and I

1043
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: tell this to my team all the time, the fact

1044
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: that I've gotten to pursue country music since I was

1045
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: eighteen years old and do it for a living and

1046
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: make money to support my family. Until I to make

1047
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 3: money doing what you love and to actually make money

1048
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: doing it, we should never take that for granted. And

1049
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: I think that's one thing anytime I'm feeling like a

1050
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 3: little down or like a little what the hell's going on?

1051
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: And I always remember, like we are. So I'm so

1052
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: blessed the fact that I get to be a mom,

1053
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: I get to do what I love, I get to

1054
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: write songs, and people still care, you know, because it's

1055
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: a very We all know this is a hard business,

1056
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: but I know this is what God's created me to do.

1057
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: And like the fans are amazing, and country music fans

1058
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: are truly the best fans and they're always there and

1059
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: they've grown with me since the voice and since I

1060
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: had a big old flower on the side of my

1061
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: head and more poofy dresses with cowgirl boots. I ever

1062
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: decided to retire that I know, maybe I should bring

1063
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: it back this summer.

1064
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 5: I was thinking to do it seriously and then gosh,

1065
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 5: Daisy like it too.

1066
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: You know.

1067
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: I have a few of my old like Betsy Johnson dresses,

1068
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: and I was like, how funny would that be if

1069
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: I pulled one of those out for Luke Bryan to

1070
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: her you should, Yeah, I'd have to get him probably

1071
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: tailored and stuff.

1072
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 5: Which is kind of you do it like two puntovers

1073
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 5: two point over, you know, because I love your style

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Speaker 5: right now and I'm like, what your what is it?

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Speaker 3: What is your style?

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Speaker 5: Because it's like those cute little minis and tops, but

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Speaker 5: it's like totally tailored and like created. It's like my creation.

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Speaker 5: So this girl boots and like, I just love her style.

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Speaker 5: It's so perfect silver lining apparel.

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Speaker 3: She is amazing. She she reached out to me. She

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Speaker 3: she creates looks for Rodeo girls and so her she

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Speaker 3: like with the whole Beyonce trend. When Beyonce was getting

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Speaker 3: all these different girls to make, you know, her wardrobe

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Speaker 3: for Cowboy Carter Tour. She was like, wouldn't it be

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Speaker 3: so cool if I could dress an artists, And so

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Speaker 3: she reached out. I put her in contact out yes,

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Speaker 3: which is so so and I love how organic it

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Speaker 3: was because she's like, I'm just a fan, Like I

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Speaker 3: love to you know, chat, and I mean like I

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Speaker 3: could help create looks, but I was like, I would

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00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: rather her work with my stylist and like it'd be

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Speaker 3: tailored to me. And then you know, my stylists can

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Speaker 3: like find like boots and like jewelry and all things

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00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: to go with it, so wee that's amazing. So they

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00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 3: start working together and it's great because it's like I

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Speaker 3: had all these cute sets from last year and so

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Speaker 3: for this summer we're just revamping those sets and adding

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Speaker 3: more stones and more friend and like little things to

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Speaker 3: put over it. And it's just been really fun. But

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Speaker 3: she's great.

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Speaker 5: Has it been a relief or like, has it taken

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Speaker 5: some pressure off to have this iconic look that you

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00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: have now and like to have sets since to not

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Speaker 5: have to like think about it?

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Speaker 3: It really is And that's why I love Krista. Like

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Speaker 3: the way we do it for tour is we have like,

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Speaker 3: let's say, like last year we did ten looks and

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Speaker 3: now we added four new looks and then we're revamping

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Speaker 3: the other ten. It's great because I have all my

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Speaker 3: looks in my closet and she tells me what boots like.

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Speaker 3: We I have pictures of all my boots and she's like,

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Speaker 3: I think you should wear this with this, and then

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Speaker 3: it's great because all I have to do is grab

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Speaker 3: the boots, this and then the jewelry, and it just

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Speaker 3: makes it very and everything's tailored to me, and I

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Speaker 3: don't everything, yes, And it's like the only thing that

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Speaker 3: sucks about being an artist is like there's like my

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Speaker 3: everyday clothes. Then there's like my sweats because you know,

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Speaker 3: as girls, we have all of our lounge clothes, and

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Speaker 3: then I have my railing closet. So it's like my

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Speaker 3: closet looks insane, and it's like you can't wear a

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Speaker 3: freaking booty shorts to dinner, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, maybe I could.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.