WEBVTT - Episode 215 "Quarantine Champs Ep.6" w/ D-Nice & Gillie Da Kid 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.880 And his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper, 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.200 He's Segre is your boy in O R E. He's 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.560 a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d J e f N. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.160 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:30.320 players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.240 one sorts for drunk drink Chas motherfuckings New year' z 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.520 that it's time for drink Champ trick up mother mother? 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.680 Would it good? Be hoping he would have to me, 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.640 this is your boy in r what up is d 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.639 J e f N? And this Drink Chance motherfucking podcast 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.320 makes something quarantine chaps, Quarantine champs right right now. I 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.640 knew this guy right now twenty years man. I can't 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.440 be proud of what he doing, what he accomplished him 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.080 and as I believe it's his cousin Willow, you know 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.120 what I mean represented for Philadelphia. It's by the time 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.000 Philadelphia got got it on the map for It's like 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.759 it's like it's like it's like only at one time 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.480 for something from Philly could be happening. It's like, you know, 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.720 you got the bed wave, you got the state property 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.320 wave and then you know, and then you hear to 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.039 meet many ways and now you got the motherfucking million 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:29.560 dollar podcast. Look Anni, First of all, Man, I want 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.280 to tell you thank you man. You was the first 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.240 person to put me on your podcast. I didn't even 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.240 know what the podcast was. I was like, just come up, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.800 we're gonna talk some ship, right, you know. Yeah, So really, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.640 I man, I commend you all man for showing us 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.720 the way man that you know, you really get some 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.120 money out of this ship because we didn't really truly 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.480 understand it. But now we just understand that y'all was 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.960 really ahead of the curve man years in advance, man, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.000 and we was out there slipping and ship. So so 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.120 what was what was what was the decision for you? 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.400 Don't even just to start it, like you know what 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:07.440 I'm saying, Like, um, well, you know since I since 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.399 I started giving out million, I was with a game 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:14.600 back in twelve and ship people always, even before Wilt 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.519 came home, people always used to be like, you need 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.360 a podcast, Gilly, you need a podcast, You need a 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.040 podcast all the time. But I didn't know what that 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.520 ship was and I did yours, but I still didn't 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.840 understand how you get money from this ship, you know 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:33.320 what I'm like. And then a post came across my 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:38.120 page that said Spotify allocates four hundred and twenty one 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:43.639 million dollars towards podcasts last year, and I was like, Nigo, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.280 what that's all you needed to see? That's all I 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:53.239 needed to break them fucking mics out. Now let's get 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.120 this ship popping. And the months we had a deal, right, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.680 so um um for for people that because I know 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.400 that Joe um he had spoke on this a little 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.040 bit me and you spoke on it off the air, 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.600 I believe there was somebody that started the podcast with 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.320 y'all y're not yeah, yeah, yeah, what happens just so 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.200 our viewers can know and no one can have a 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:18.040 dispricacy of what's going on. Whatever was with me a 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.200 while I was this out of the start of podcast right, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.720 So uh, this guy had a facility that he shot 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:31.600 podcasts out like a podcast studio studio. So it was like, okay, 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.640 so we came in. You know, basically, how much you 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.520 want a month to shoot your podet to shoot the 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.960 podcast here gave us a number. Okay, we pay him. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.400 He was doing our sound. If you go to the 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:48.160 first episodes. He wasn't on the episodes he was he was, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.120 he was he record our sound you feel what I'm 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.640 saying and yeah, and then after the after the show, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.560 he put a little mix on it and then he 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.720 sent it to somebody that's gonna uploaded the bus route 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.360 for us feel what I'm saying. And about episode five, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:11.000 maybe the cameraman came in and set a microphone in 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.640 front of him. Me and Whilo looked at each other. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.200 But from time to time we might say yes or no, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.240 Dav and he'd like, I gotta agree with Gilly, but 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.280 he'd be off camera, you feel what I'm saying. But 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.200 this time he put the camera in front of like 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.400 he wanted to be a part of the mic on them. Yeah, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.280 he put a camera in front of him, so he 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.880 put a camera to in front of the camera man, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.000 he wasn't the camera and the camera guy came in 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:41.240 and put the camera and looked, you know, and then 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.440 we let it live. So what from You're not really 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.680 talking at first, you just saying yeah, I believe, yeah, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.120 I feel like wild until you started talking more. And 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.440 then then you started talking more. And then when we 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.080 did the baron to deal with Barstool. We went to him. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.640 We offered him a certain amount of money, like, here 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.440 you go, you were ninety six hours a week. He 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.120 goes x amount of money for the year. You feel 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.400 what I'm saying, This still don't come in between what 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.320 you got going on, because it's only ninety six hours 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.480 out of the week. One hour, you you're talking for 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.200 an hour and then you're mixing ship down for twenty minutes, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.520 and then you're sending it over m And for some 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.960 reason he thought he deserved fifteen percent of my company 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.640 and I was like, what right. So, you know, that's 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:31.320 how they went because I explained that people like you know, um, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.799 because a lot of people don't understand that you guys 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.880 to start something, you know, grassroots where it's just it's 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.680 just everybody that's down for it, and then, uh, a 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:44.000 situation like this could occur. How can people avoid that 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.840 in future references? Well, at the end of the day, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.040 at the end of the day, when everything everybody else 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.680 that we had on the team is happy to feel 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.880 what I'm saying. So it's just that a lot of 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.680 times you cannot let people that's around you get in 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.440 your fucking head. You feel what I'm saying and get 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.280 in your mind. And because one of the comments and 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:14.640 motherfucker made was in order for me to know how 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.600 much I'm supposed to make, I need to know how 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:23.560 much you make it. Wow, h I don't even sound 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:29.560 right in any kind of way. And my response was, Okay, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:35.360 when you came on board, you had six thousand followers, right, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.919 I had one million followers, So do me a favor. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.440 Give divide six and the one million and was about 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.960 eighty something. That's how much you want making than your 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:53.360 goofy has eighties. Sometimes I'm talking about right, but did 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.680 you see this coming? Because no, wait but wait no, 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.840 just to be clear, because I think that sometimes when 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.120 you're saying the follower thing, someone might get confused and say, oh, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.720 you know, maybe this person they think they the celebrity 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.080 there is that. I think it's just easy, like this 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.120 is your podcast, you started the podcast. He was hired 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.640 help like you. You was renting studio. Like if it's 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.440 like if a studio you go to says oh I 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.240 own your music now, now I rented the studio and 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.480 you got an engineer, and that's what it is, you 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.600 know absolutely, then then then any time we got did 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.040 live shows, he got paid for live ships. You feel 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.920 what I'm saying. So for us it was like this 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.720 is this is not even something to think about, Like 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.720 you feel what I'm saying, Like, this is not this 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.880 is this is easy mathematics, bro like. But he didn't 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.000 see it that way, you know, so it was like, okay, cool. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.240 You know people get fired every day. It ain't no 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.400 ain't no hardst feelings or nothing. You know what I'm saying, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.840 That's just a part of life. See. See what people 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.160 don't understand is well, our podcast is not just driven 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.360 off Our podcast is drilling is driven off our social media. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.720 You know, if we do on social media as well, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.240 Like this means that orthor Game has his own following, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.600 has his own following. And even what you're saying right now, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.080 right right, Like I know, I know motherfucker's have never 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.520 met you before and they liked and they'd be like right, 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.480 and I'll just be looking at them like yeah, it 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.520 was your personality already on social media doing it before 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.120 you was doing a podcast. Absolutely so, men, And that 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.320 was in the podcast is just a spin off from 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.960 me giving out game on my Instagram. That's why it 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.080 took all so fast because it wasn't something that needed 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.560 to be built up. You had to get used to 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.319 the name. You know, you've seen it every day every 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.520 day you woke up. I was giving you some game 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.079 and and the people was demanding it. You need a podcast. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.880 We needed to. The spin off from it was so easy. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:53.079 It was easy to adapt. Right now, have y'all during quarantine. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.960 I see y'all recording. You're still recording, right, y'all facing 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.400 with it. Y'all didn't do this zoom ship we're doing right, No, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:05.120 we ain't doing those zoom We told my did you 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.720 better stay away from motherfuck? You know so because Philly Philly, 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.480 did y'all get hit with it hard or not to 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.839 come on the thing? Yeah? Really Jersey though, Yeah, yeah, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.400 Billy got hit with it too, but Jersey really got 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.160 hit with it. Right now, who's the dude that you 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.280 had on the podcast the other day that Meet mail 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.080 knocked him bitch down? So that was that was Tony 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.760 X NFL player used to play for the Seattle Seahawks. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.600 He from Philadelphia and you know, you know, man, niggas 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:40.160 bitches gett sucked every day. You know, Meek almost trying 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.760 to deny it though. I don't know if you see 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.960 meet tweets like oh boy girl, but he trying at 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.480 almost Hey WHOA, Well, he definitely know Meek slam dance, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.600 you know that's for sure. But you know, I respect 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.840 the fact that he's still listened to me. You know, 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:03.360 he's a hard like that. They Now, one guy sees 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.480 you kick kicking it with I couldn't tell where it 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.160 was going. I couldn't tell what was happening. I believe 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.680 that's Young Chop. Yeah, now what is your relationship with 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.000 Young Chop? I see y'all kicking it and I've seen 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.760 it go far, Like is that for real? All? Is 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.880 he is? He? Is this the internet thing? Because you know, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.080 I'm I'm I'm forty, I'm forty, you know what I mean, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.280 I'm a little different. I don't be knowing, you know what? 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.440 Like actually that match Young Chop a few times, and 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.440 you know he always been cool. He always been, you know, 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.120 just a laid back type and Nigga just cool as shit. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.080 And you know, seeing him on my page and just said, 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.280 let me tell me all that Chop man real quick. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.000 Who's something NIGGD I had no id was gonna do 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.360 that ship, you know what I'm saying. So then he 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:52.200 started talking, you know about Meek Mills, Salt and you know, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.319 French Montana, and I'm like, and shipped threw me all 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.480 for a minute. I had to say, come on, Chop, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.680 I gotta get y'all off here. Man, you're talking chraz 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.679 now asking asking because you know you're feally you're really 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.280 was six months eight months into into the podcast? How much? 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:14.280 How long? Uh? A year? Is? Okay? Go congrats? Let 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.200 makes a noise for that, man, I nderstand to it. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.760 So look, have you ever what's your biggest um um 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.120 discrepancy so far? Like like you ever gotten to drama 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.440 so far? Like anybody ever got mad at you? Anybody like? 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.240 You know what I mean? No, I ain't really never 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.920 had nobody. I don't think it mad at me. You know, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.320 they might not like something that safe, But you know, 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.959 other than that, I don't really think I get. I 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.679 don't get people mad at me. That's not my objective. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.560 I don't really talk about people like that. I just 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.079 will give our game that's got its attention, motivation and education. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.840 You feel they will they will get, they will get madaged. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.400 Don't worry don't work. Yeah, he definitely definitely put me 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.760 up on that. Now. I thought I thought it was 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.240 I thought it was dope that um that Joe even 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.400 commented on you guys, right, And I thought that it 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.720 was ill that that that you responded back. But I 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.440 wanted you to know that you're supposed to be talked about, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:12.800 like you know what I'm saying when you live in 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.800 this world, like honestly, like if if a person is 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.360 not talking much and this growth that it's Joe's, don't 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.440 you know? And he got a big platform as well, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.880 you know what I mean. But it's enough, you know 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.679 what it is. I know that Joe's a you know, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:33.040 Joe's a sneaky, tricky type, but fucking like and you know, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.560 I just was on on Live with Joe when we're 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.280 busting it up, and you know one thing, one thing 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.440 about me North, I don't have no problem with salute 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.920 the motherfucking man. You know what I mean. I want 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.840 to salute you. I don't want to shoot you. You 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.400 feel what I'm saying. I want to I want to 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.680 eat with you. Ain't trying to compete with you. You 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.959 feel what I'm saying. Everybody got their own lane. You 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.720 got your lane, He got his lane. I got my lane. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.920 You know, everybody got their own lane, man. And for me, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:07.559 it's like I didn't send Joe a message through through Instagram, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.840 you know, Preace know, we was on live, was in 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.200 front of my followers, was in front of his followers, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.520 and I told him and I salute you man, I 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:19.040 salute noimou salute text to him. Y'all showed me the way. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.160 Y'all showed me that damn you could get some money 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.800 out of this ship because I didn't see it. So 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:26.920 I'm gonna type of nigga that salutes you. And then 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.400 he turned around and it's like and the thing that 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.040 was most really hurtful is that nothing y'all saying it's real, right. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.679 So it was like Joe like get the first eighty 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.480 six episodes the DEV was on. I'm like, bro, we 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:45.000 only on episode sixty, So let me ask you because 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.520 I really wasn't following. Was DEV doing like like like 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:54.040 interviews with other niggas saying this though, no, uh okay, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.440 because we couldn't have been on episode eighties six or 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.520 eighty now. It was de like, you know, going to 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.320 do interviews like and just speaking about your situation. Yeah 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.800 he did the interview. Yeah he did an interview speaking 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.920 about our situation. But at the end of the day, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.840 what they were saying wasn't what that what not even 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.880 what Death was saying. You know what I'm saying. A 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.200 lot of this ship was just like out of left field. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.320 Like so, I'm like, damn, if you're gonna talk about 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.880 a person's situation, at least, dude, at least try to 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.040 try to get some facts, you know. And Rory started 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.800 it off like, you know, if I'm saying something wrong 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.720 that well, if you're saying something wrong that you're not 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.000 supposed to be saying nothing at all because you don't 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.360 know you feel what I'm saying. So but you know, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.440 I talked to them all. I talked to Rory. Shout 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.920 out to both from my respect, the fact that they 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.280 both reached out to me like men, because at the 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.080 end of the day, we've grown man, And if you 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.920 could you could, if I, if I, if I, if 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.360 somebody feels though some type of way with me, I'm 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.239 gonna reach out to him. And if they feel disrespected, 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.320 and I see where they're coming from, I have no 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.120 following was saying you know what I see where you're 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.240 coming from. Ro apologize to you for taking it their 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.720 way because I could see how you was how you 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.760 took it that way, but I didn't feel that way. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.760 That's not how I was saying it. I can respect that. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.520 We on to see another day, you feel me. Yeah, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.520 listen real quick, just based off of you saying that 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.040 you didn't really first see the podcast movement and we was, 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.200 we started doing it, and then you kind of saw 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.400 it when you saw a Spotify deal. I'm trying, like 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.080 I'm analyzing this new Joe Rogan deal. Are you guys 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.200 paying attention to this Joe Rogan deal? What they said 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.440 a hundred millions, but that's not the whole million is 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.280 not what you need to pay attention to. Do You 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:39.560 know what Spotify made forty eight hours after announcing that deal, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:46.160 five billion, five billion dollars. It's a game changer, and 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.680 I think all of us need to take note of 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.200 what that means for all of us in this space. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.640 To give me plenty five That's what I'm saying. We 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.560 don't need to, We don't need a hundred million or 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.920 you know, we we need to understand what that means 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.120 for our value based on what we're doing. But you 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.240 but talk about your barstool sports what is it? Bar stool? 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.720 Bar stool? Absolutely, those are some big dudes. Like how 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.600 did how did these guys even approach you? What was 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.920 going on? Well, a lot of a lot of companies 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.040 was approaching us. You know what I'm saying. Department for 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:29.120 cutting you off? Y'all was independent at first? Wow, gohead 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.240 one hundred percent. So we had all the numbers. You 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.480 feel what I'm saying. We charted a week you feel 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.840 what I'm saying. We on Apple, We got the numbers 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.440 as far as YouTube. You know. So people was coming 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.800 in with barstool, and shout out to Dave and America, man, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.040 because since we've been there, it ain't been nothing but 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.720 good to us. Man. So shout out to Dave and Erica. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.440 You know, they came and we sat down and we 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.600 made it happen. It was. It was really quick. It 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.000 didn't take a lot, you know what I'm saying. And 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.439 they've been treating as good ever since. Now. The crazy 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.480 thing is you come from you know feeling you know 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.400 what I'm saying. Uh, you know, um from backing days, man, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.720 you had labeled discrepancies and things like that, what what 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.879 what what? What? What do you like more? Do you 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.040 like rapping more? Or do you like what you're doing 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:24.320 right now? This ship right now? See I love wrapping, right, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.920 but this ship right yeah, I'm gonna let I mean, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:36.960 it's it's kind of like rapping, like yeah, oh babe, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:43.119 this is this is this is a lot less train 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.879 you with someone say that, I'll say that I really 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.360 I really enjoyed doing this ship. And you can get 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.679 your point across a little easier. See, rapping, you can 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.000 say something and a person can still misunderstand you, right 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.640 this nigga misunderstanding me. Nigga, I don't like you. If 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.720 I say I don't like you, that's it. I don't 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.960 like Capella. You don't need a producer. Yeah, I don't 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:12.000 need to get hit the buttons, none of that. I 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.080 don't need it edited up that this chopping fluid and 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:19.120 then they're good, the dirty version, put a dirty version. Yeah, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:25.400 and uh but you know, uh, I can't even say 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.120 I missed the the touring aspect, because we do live 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:36.280 shows with this ship too, But I missed the the 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.560 recording of that hot record. When you're done and you're 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.840 listening to that motherfucking you know that bitch fire. Yeah, 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.639 I missed that aspect of all right, all right, and 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.960 that's the only thing in hip hop you missed. Like 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.800 I mean, I'm making music for being a part of 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.399 music games. Yeah, because this you can't say that's not 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.840 hip hop too. Yeah, but well you know, I still 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:00.280 be in the studio with a lot out of the 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.639 young and so I still yet a lot of the 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.280 young and ships still keep me up on you know 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.520 what I'm saying. So I'm I'm always around that. But 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.600 just the recording in the in the they getting the 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.600 fans reaction when you dropped that hot ship, right, yeah, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.840 because that's what I do it for the fans anybody, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:27.960 right You think Philly ever really gets his recognition. No, yeah, 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.280 we all on our way, you know what I mean. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.480 A lot of artists did a lot as far as 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.440 like not even just music in general Philly. So much 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:43.320 history from Philly, Jill Scott, Jasmine Sullivan, music sold child routes, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.520 the roots, um My Starts, Will Smith, Sorts, Will Smith, 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:58.840 Teddy Pendergrad, Patty LaBelle Eve. He said, pell Yeah, you know, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.320 I know my history and a little bit Yeah, there's 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:07.000 a lot more some of the coming ones too. Arid 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:11.560 ye be a box from the Homie Louzy, Oh Louzy. 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.600 But I've seen him get a freestyle on at a 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.080 gas station. I was very impressed. I was very impressed. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.520 I like that sat Memphis. Bleek is from Philly. He 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:25.640 got over lack that sunny go ahead man, so mr 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:30.080 at least from Philly. So but all right, now, like 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.080 it was like the two parts of the city, right 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:37.159 uh um when Bleak, I mean Meek and he just 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.000 think over here sucking me up. When Meek and Beans 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.440 got into that. Now you you you you I remember 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.359 my first couple of times coming to Philly. You was 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.560 in the Cypherss that we was romming with, you know 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.720 what I'm saying. So look you see me from when 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.080 the super Dog was nothing the super Dog came back 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.119 and did you think that that was that was a 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.639 point that divided the city to a certain extent or 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.600 the city he was kind of like already divided. I 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.679 don't really think it's divided the city, you know what 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.359 I mean? Because really the people in Philly just gonna 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.440 rock with little they rockwood, you know what I mean? 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.560 I think it just was. I just think it was. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.080 If you was from the outside looking in, you would 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.040 have looked at it as a bad look for Philly, 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.920 you know what I mean. But if you was around 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.680 and you know, you know a little bit more than 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.280 you know, you just take it for what it is. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.679 You know it don't get along, that's what it looks like. 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.560 But with me, I get along with everybody, man, you 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.560 know what I'm saying. I get along. I got a 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:44.720 beautiful relationship with everybody, from me the Beans too, you know. Cassidy, 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:46.959 you know what I'm saying. Cashy just be on and 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:51.919 off sometimes, but that's my brother. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:53.879 I don't know what you mean by that. But your 0:21:53.960 --> 0:22:01.120 laugh sounds crazy, No, guess just be and he cast 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.760 to say something crazier than we are talking. We're all good, 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:09.479 so uh but everybody man, even a are av and 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.320 then that's locked up. You know. I was school with them, 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.359 you know what I'm saying, So I ain't. I ain't 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.240 really got a problem with nobody, man. I'm good with everybody. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.320 There's a lot of artists too. I can't name all 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.480 of them, but I'm good with everybody, man. Any any 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.480 new artists on the horizon that we haven't heard of. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.640 From Philly. He did a new artist in the week. 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.399 I mean, what you do with you? Give us a 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:34.879 couple of them? Shot him out them Santana, reyh. This 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.199 is from all over. Now, this is from Philly. All right, 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:38.680 just go to stick with Philly because I know you'll 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.960 be posting na from all over. I'll be watching. Yeah, Simpsontana. 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:47.200 It's a girl named Rocky. Is a kid named zig Money. 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.639 It's a kid named uh, what you ask from me? 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:57.840 A little muck? Uh? Mac and Cheese, um man. We 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.720 got a lot of young artists at leaf Board. We 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.800 gotta shout out home you rocking the drink champs? Sure? 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:08.880 Kay Walker, Kay Walker, Yeah, I love Kate Walker. Uh. Absolutely, 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.800 it's a it's a lot, man. I might have missed 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.600 a few, but we got a lot of up and 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.520 coming youngest man. So we checked what we're watching for 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:20.719 them North and you got the Mac and Cheese clothing line. Absolutely, 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:26.000 my son's that's the girl sons. Yeah. Oh okay, I 0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.560 thought that was you and wallow Ship. No, that's my 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.680 let's promote that then, brother, Yeah, that's the that's their name. 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:38.400 Mac and cheese. Oh yeah, absolutely, they got people think 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.920 they think about to come out in a week called 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:45.120 ignore wow wow, And a lot of people don't know that, 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:48.800 like you know, Gilly a hood nigga, Gilly Street Street, 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.720 but Gilly also went to college. Absolutely do niggas that 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.439 bro tell people that I played ball in college, you 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.119 know what I'm saying. Was pretty nice with it, and 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:04.200 then unfortunately I gotta caught up in some street ship 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.600 and got kicked out. But uh, and that's when I 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:10.080 started wrapping m And I've seen you hitting the punching 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.960 bag too. You thought you was nice with your ship too. Yeah, 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:23.920 I was definitely nice, serious, definitely nice with much. Used 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.119 to use the box a little something. You know. I 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.720 ain't my son and ship. You know both both of 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.800 my sons, you know, I make them out. They don't. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.160 They don't never got a box, but they gotta learn 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.399 how to fight, you know what I'm saying, Because I 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.000 noticed their kids get a different type of confidence when 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.720 they know they know how to throw the man. Absolutely, 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:47.520 remember me and Mike likely the first time you've Philly. Absolutely, 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.879 and that's for hand to day man, absolutely man. Just 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.040 it was called such for hand to day It was 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.200 a concert down there called sus for Hand to Day yep, 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.800 and everybody was rapping. Then I walked up and started 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.119 spitting for y'all. Absolutely shut the whole ship down, like 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.120 I ain't gonna lie, like all right, So back then 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.600 New York we were fittest, but we didn't spit all 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.320 day like we didn't. We didn't just rhyme all day 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.320 like really must have wanted the out. I guess they 0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.760 wanted to outdo us, like every time I wrap y 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.919 uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know if 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.159 it was just me or every New York artist. I 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.720 believe it was every New York or something to that 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.000 came there. Really Nigga wanted to get in a sighter 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:32.879 with you. And they won the battle, but they were 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.280 trying to burn anything down. And I remember Gilly just 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.320 walking in the in the in the spher and just 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.080 I kid you not his word play. He tol like, 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.200 and we didn't hear ship like that. We didn't hear 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.280 like a ball come from here and then you wait, 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:49.720 you wait, you wait, you wait, and did you match 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:53.240 that ball that was just the first ball matching with 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.879 the sixth. He was like, oh, like we were funked up. 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.400 We got back in the band, headed back home. Was like, yo, 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.080 sign this nigga media. Mike Lighty got on the phone 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.280 with Chris Lightly and it was I remember this was 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.000 this was this was this was the whole thing they 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:08.679 wanted to do. You know what I mean? Because you 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.960 told that. Motherfucker's like you remember that right, literally man? 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.800 And then Mike called me up to death jam. That's 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.360 when I battled my son and death jam. I mean, 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.680 tell me if this analogy is wrong for Philly rappers, 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.080 I feel like it always sounds like the m C 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.639 is a boxer throwing punches. That's the way the rhyme 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.840 sound coming out of his name. His name Rocky eight, 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:35.560 Rocky Bob Boa from from Philly. Shouldn't even think about 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.680 that part of it. That's made up movie. But yeah, 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:44.399 but it was from really and be ful Philly. Okay, 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:48.280 But what were saying before that? Who was saying about 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:52.560 Mike Lighty? So yeah, yeah, Mike song and Mike song battle. Yeah, 0:26:53.160 --> 0:27:00.720 tell us what happened there, motherfucker? So so uh they 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.560 called me up to death jam. I getting there and uh, 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.400 Mike is like, it's findy in there, and it's franchise 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:15.639 this one. It was a group Greg, Gravy and Queue right. 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:22.080 So Findy was like, let me hear something. So I 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:26.000 started spitting. So Findy looking at me crazy, he said, 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:31.040 let me hear something else. So I spit again, so 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:35.000 he liked, let me hear something else. Was there a 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.440 nigger named de Kwan in the building with Findy at 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.720 that time? No, because de Koran infended the two most 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.560 corrupt niggas in New York City at the time. Let 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.639 me tell you by yourself. No, No, it was me 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.119 and something just one of one of my homies. So 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:56.320 as I'm in the middle of wrapping, I think his 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.360 name was Black. They used to be with my sign 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.920 Mike sound manager back in the then. You remember Black, 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.000 I think, so I think. So he's walking by the 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:08.000 door Findy shut me up and screen out best some 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:12.440 money today? So Black like what Findy like, best some 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.760 money today? I got? I got my man right here right, 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.679 So so Black like all right this whatever? So my 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:28.880 signe walk up, so Black like he want the best 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.080 of money on on my man right here. So my 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.160 signe looked at me. He says, some slick ship. I say, 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.679 some slick shipped back or you got me fucked up 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.720 or something like that. Right, they're like, okay, as we're 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.680 going to the conference room, Jay and Dame get off 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:50.120 the elevator. They're crazy. Oh oh, y'all gotta be the judges. Okay, 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:54.520 we're going this from crazy. We battle is the best 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.360 three rounds out of five. And j and Dame came 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:02.840 in the room too, Yes, right, okay. I had a 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:10.320 red Iceberg sweat on my sign goes then I go 0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:15.400 Findy said that's one and nothing. My god, I go 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.880 find He say that's two to nothing. Go, I go 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.880 Findy said, give me my money, Get me my money. 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.840 He said it's the best to be out of file. 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.840 He said he just three a row, give me my money. 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.640 Then they look at j J said yeah, money in 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.960 the red sweater. He definitely won all three rounds. And 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:44.080 that's how I went, Wow, your north and my son 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.800 my man, but I cooked this ask that that yo, 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.080 what shout to my son? Let me let me defend 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.440 my song. You're not here. I didn't see that battle, 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.880 but I did see about it when when when Shine 0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.160 first got signed, we were all in justice. I'm but 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.000 just was on twenty third Street. I forget what avenue 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.280 it was on, but it was across the street from Cheetahs, 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.120 and I remember um Uh Shane walked in and it 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.200 was like everyone wanted to meet Shane because this nigga 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.640 just got you know, this this million dollar deal and 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.480 a mien out of publishing deal. So we walked over 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.840 and I was a little saucy and I started to rhyme, 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:21.920 and then you know, Sean started the rhyme and it 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.280 wasn't a battle. But then my song walked over there 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.720 and my son just gave me the hood looked like, nigga, 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.120 you already nory nigga relaxed, let me take care of this, 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.600 and that one, you know, he listened to trust me 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.280 I was dead. Trust me I was the That was 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.000 the red trust me done. Yeah, he just that was 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.840 the red yea yea. Trust me I was dead. And 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.720 he said that's what he was going up against. Yeah, 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.200 that's hard. I don't do that. But okay, right after 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.200 shot battle, Yeah, because that's only thing you'd just be shot. Listen, 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.760 six figures of major figures, major figures, you've been sucking 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.640 up six figures? Cool. I was waiting for the major 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.600 figure ship later, but nigger you have to relax, said 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:18.000 six because Nicks name and Memphis been from Philly. My bad, 0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:23.040 the medicant out of control. Uh, it's all good. Yeah, 0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.040 but let's take it back to the major figure days. 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.960 How was that a lot of you know, it was 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.120 good in the beginning when you didn't get no money. 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.840 An soon as you get some money, you know, it's 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.760 seven motherfucker's it's seven Eagles Man who you had a 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:47.720 live have live Rolex Okay, Well Space and Dutch and myself, 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:52.320 Dutchess Spade, Well Spade home, Yes, sir, Okay, pick up 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.800 the spade, pick up the Dutch Man absolutely job Rule 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.320 came on the show and said that he had battle 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.720 Dutchess Spade and he cooked them. I can't lie to 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.320 you that Nigga Dutch, which one of which which one 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:09.560 was home Dutch? He went crazy but Nigga, but he 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.719 beat me in the battle. You know, John was just 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.200 talking ship. I can't, I can't lie to you. This 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:21.400 thing was on Twitter for six months straight going don't 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.240 tell John. I wanted to tell y'all one. I'm like, yo, 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.320 this is just because that's this is the time where 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:30.280 people didn't understand what podcast was so they thought when 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.280 John was just talking, he thought that job was disrespecting 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.240 when the job was just he was saying how he 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.480 saw the story. You know what his perspective. His perspective, 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.320 boy was was Dutch. He did not understand that he 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:48.680 was on the end ofnet going crazy. That's my nigga, Like, uh, 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.960 six months he was going crazy though to my turn 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.120 to do it because everyone thought he was filming in 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.440 New York at first, you know what I mean. And 0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.959 we still think that sometimes we knew most of the 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.680 time we traveled, but you know I didn't then right 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.520 after that, we just stuck in Miami. So I was 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.680 telling to come to Miami, and he just wasn't getting 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.640 at the time. But big up the Dutch, Big up 0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.160 the spade them dudes. Uh big with Charlie Baltimore's world. 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:16.760 That isn't that another fully fully people? Yeah, yeah, funny, 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.880 you got, you got, you got some people. Now you 0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.280 know what it is? You got what trumps at all 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.960 on no pun intended. It's the Will Smith nigger. It's 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.680 like nobody's gonna catch that nigga, right, like like nobody 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:36.920 gonna catch like right, nobody for real, right, somebody but 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:43.000 still yeah, he's still yeah, and we'll will let he 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.480 gave up his property that what is it north side 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.760 of Fility, born and raised the West side? Was he 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.280 ain't got no property out there, no more right, like 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.040 really not a place that you get up and be 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.600 like I'm gonna go back right like you leave, it's 0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:01.400 going forever going to you get the funk out of 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:07.880 that any type of one fucking move and then move 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.680 back to Philly. You know they busted in the Skuyt 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.840 just know, and then we'll only want to hear your story. Dog, 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:21.399 you're fucked up. You don't get an apartment on South Street, 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.839 you know what's on or you gotta be living like 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.680 downtown Center City, like you know the high rises Mike 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:35.120 calls thirty five hundred or something. But we was we 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.560 seen some nice ship when we was at the Roots picnic. 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:42.120 If he got around the corner from Esca Bibble's, it's over. Yeah, 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.759 but listen, you'll be living in this should be them 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.360 a million dollars, but it being a hood. Like fucker 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.560 gets shot at the corner, like that's that's the type 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.440 of ship they're building up. These these luxurious and glorious 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:02.400 fucking crimps, but block down the motherfucker to get shot. 0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.040 Tweet called on fight. You know what the funniest ship 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:08.640 about Philly and South Jersey niggas. Philly and South Jersey 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.640 niggas will get on the run and switch towns like 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.360 they're getting low and it's still a heat though a 0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.000 feeling nigging will give here on the run of South Jersey. 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.239 You think it will be on the Philly and they 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.760 low and I'll be like the bag and the nigga's 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:33.440 twenty five minutes away. Man, I was. I just want 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:38.480 to congratulate you though, my brother. You know what I mean, man, Man, Man, 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.600 you guys are doing a wonderful job. Man ship, I 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:44.760 I don't even know, man. I just want to just 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.839 just keep bigging y'all luck man, because like I said, man, 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.359 it's wanting enough money for everybody to be out here. 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.279 When when when um, when I like, I say this 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.280 a couple of times when I was on the block, 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.640 you know there's people that have you know, you know 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.960 better client telling me there's people that had better you know, 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.120 work through me that the people that you know had 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.120 a lot of other things that's better than me. But 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.640 people ain't gonna stay outside as long as me, as 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.640 long as my tax set get off. I don't give 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.280 a funk. Would anybody do down the block, up the block, 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.920 up the river, upstairs, downstairs, in between the stairs, or 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:17.920 under the stairs. It doesn't matter to me, you know 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:22.000 what I'm saying. Okay, So, so what are you smoking 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.160 right now? That that looks like a back A lot 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.160 of money? You're smoking a back Okay, let's just let's 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.280 I see your medical ship because I got a medical 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.799 car too. Yeah, I'm supposed is definitely a backwood. Yes, 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:37.560 it's back with what kind of but is that? This 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:45.840 is look like CBD right now? Really? No, this is 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:55.800 uh cherry diesel, dairy diesel, dairy des like Rys dairy diesel, 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.799 cherry man cherry. I through the same dry I thought 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.239 you have milking it. I said this thing about that 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:11.279 let milking this week. Who you hey, listen though, NOI 0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:16.120 I smoked that ship, bro, that ship. Get your eyes 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:23.719 a mini scooge me. You ever thought that the most 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.359 success you were got out of this will be through 0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:32.399 you know, just talking? No, that's crazy, right, that's I'm 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.440 fucking believable man. All right, that's it's like that's to me. 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:42.080 It's like I get that I got a platform where 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:46.200 I could say whatever the funk I want? Why speaking mind? Yeah, 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:51.120 I could just speak my mind, right, no restrictions, Right, 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.319 this is this is beautiful man. That's like the real 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.360 American dream. That's the real Americing man. What was the moment? 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.719 Because you know, um, you know what what we'll all 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.280 due expect to everybody out there. There's so many people, 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.120 Like when me and E f N started to do 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:10.200 this and were doing an interviewing people, there's other people 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.879 that I believe Joe Joe started before us. I believe 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.799 Iced Tea even started before us. I see's the first 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:18.920 one to do it, to do it. The first rapper 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.160 to ever have a podcast, first rapper, first podcast ever 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.080 hip hop podcast is Peter Rosenberg and Cyper Sound and 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.919 Chuck D. We can't discount him because he had internet radio, 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.560 which is the I don't want that radio. I don't 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:32.160 want to count you know, it's a pre curse to 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.239 the podcast. I give you precursor, but not podcast, but 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:40.920 the first podcast for Speer and Rosenberg um hip hop podcast. Yeah. 0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.240 Then the first artist, rapper artists to have a podcast, 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.680 with iced tea. Then I believe Joe Joe Button, and 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.960 then I believe comeback, but that he went in a 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.359 hitting the rapper. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.719 hip hop relag but hip hop. You're correct, you are 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.799 totally correct. And there's also like I think it's the 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.560 rail um uh, let's big up. What's the other the 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.560 combat Jack's boy? Um? I forgot his name, Premium Pete yeah, 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:11.200 because people mattered it in me. But pick up a 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.360 tax Stone, absolutely absolutely tax Stone. So I forgot the 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.759 point I was trying to make. Um, but but what 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:18.360 I was damn damn what was the point I was 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:29.400 trying to know what Yeah, goddamn ha ha ha. I 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.280 was trying to make a great point. I totally forgot 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.440 this crazy I'm not drinking when I'm when I'm drinking, 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:40.240 like huh yeah yeah, So so we were not realize 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.120 I'm trying to freestyle. Let's just see if I can't 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:46.080 go for it, go for it, yeah yeah huh or 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.600 don't yeah, but just talking yeah, yeah, That's where I 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.760 was at. Yeah, thank you, thank you, but just so 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.400 so um so, when was the moment did you actually 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.400 think did you actually knew you had something like, because 0:39:58.520 --> 0:39:59.680 this is the point I was trying to make it 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.880 after we were after we did it and we had 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.040 a couple and we had success with it. A lot 0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.560 of people don't know we had did it for like 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.600 eight months for free. We didn't remember, no, and you 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.439 discounted when we was doing on serious sextime too. Yeah, 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.839 that's a that's a totally different I don't think that's different. Man, 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:20.360 just podcast. I'm just getting just podcast, right, okay, alright, alright, cool? 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.280 But when was the moment Gilly for you when you episode? 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.240 Was it an episode or was it why you recording it, 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.480 or was it the reaction that you said, Yea, I 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:33.640 got something, I'm ana stick with it. Well, I kind 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.120 of knew that it was gonna transform over from from 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.080 my Instagram because because of the uh, you know, because 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.120 of the hits that I get when I do my 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.359 million I was withro for games Ship, but when we 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.120 dropped the first episode and that motherfucker want up to 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:54.360 number two in the world behind Joe Rogan, ship, that's huge, 0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:02.880 I was like, oh ship right, Like what the fuck? Right? Like, 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.160 God damn, we number two in the world right now 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:11.040 behind Joe Rogan and you know, at the time, you 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.040 won't even I don't even really know what the fun 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.840 is on Apple on Apple podcast, on Apple Podcast, I 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.720 don't really even know what that means. But I'm like, God, damn, 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.799 don't we number two like Ship? You know, I don't 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:29.279 even know how powerful Joe Rogan is and you just right, 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.000 you feel what I'm saying. So right then and there 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.279 I felt like, Okay, we got something right, you know 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:42.120 what I mean. And then the numbers that we will 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:46.040 put out the audio and the video the same day 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.440 and still be still be charting, you know what I'm saying. 0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:56.200 So for us, it was like then we had sponsors, 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.880 and Ship, you know what I'm saying. As an independent, 0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.040 we had sponsors because we was able to take our 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.719 numbers and say, look look how many downs we're showing 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:08.040 the data? Right, Look look look how many deal Your 0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:12.480 bar stood deals an audio and video. Well, our bar 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:17.200 stool deals are partnership, is it audio and video? Yeah? Yeah, 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.000 okay absolutely. Now let me ask you something now that 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.640 you know, because like you said before, you didn't really 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.200 know was giving it away for free on Instagram. Now 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.400 that you know, are you trying to pay attention to 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.840 the landscape of the business to know what you what 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.240 you're worth, because it's constantly changing. What we're all worth 0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.880 absolutely every fucking day is just change. Look, you know 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:41.880 that's what I'm saying. Like this Joe Rogan deal, I 0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.680 want to everybody understand, like it changes everything for all 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:48.000 of us, everything, you know. But at the end of 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.839 the day, man, I want to shout out Erica Man 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:54.440 and Dave O at bar stood man because because they 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.680 got behind y'all. Well was it a lot of companies 0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.480 that was trying to get behind us, but you but 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.920 the way that they came was different, you know what 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.759 I mean? And we we really appreciated them for that. 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:12.520 They wasn't trying to change the content, wasn't you know 0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.480 what I'm saying, wasn't really just trying to just come 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.600 and take over some ship that we built from the 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:21.960 ground up. They understood our views. Man. So for any 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.480 any young podcast is out there, who who you need 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.200 a platform and you're doing your thing, man, make sure 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:33.960 you you look at barstools, Okay, absolutely, well, well you 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:40.399 know all that now we know, so what's next? What's next? 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.040 You're trying to get in the act in what you're doing. Well, 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.520 you know, I got a movie coming out, a comedy 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:50.520 and ship in September UM called Gray's App. But we're 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.360 about to start shooting a TV show, you know what 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:57.160 I'm saying. So that's gonna be super crazy. That's crazy app. 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:01.880 That's about a place in Philadelphia. There's a street and hilly. Okay, 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:06.239 that's it's always sunny in Philadelphia's film that? Uh, I 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:10.520 don't think it was filmed that show. That show was 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:14.080 never filmed in Philadelphia though, right, No, I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:15.640 I can tell, I can tell. I can tell Danny 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.839 DeVito you ever watched that show? I knew what you're 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.759 talking about, But I ain't no big fan of this 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.480 that She's kind of funny man. Yeah yeah, but it 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:31.799 wasn't in Philly, is yeah, yeah, so yeah we put 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.520 him in. What I'm nor What's up? What's up? What's 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.840 going on? What I feel like? I'm feel like I'm gifted. 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.120 I'm in club quarantine right now. The quarantine just kill us. 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:47.720 We honored right now, Club Quarantine. Bro. I feel cheated 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.400 right now. I don't. I don't get the full on 0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.640 drink champ experience. So first off I told you this 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.239 is not official. This is just a prelude to a 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.640 real drink chance. And you too, Gilly, and you too, 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.839 um um, we we're gonna get y'all in real time. 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:07.320 Let me just say something. Me and Fat Joe was 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.200 having a talk off air, and we were saying, if 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.880 there's any DJ that like, we wanted to make like 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.920 a million dollars one show, like a million dollars just 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.920 every time he comes out, one show. And he was like, 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:23.160 if this one person that deserves that, this motherfucker deep, 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:28.880 motherfucker Nice, I'll take that. I'll take that number bigger 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.360 up though I'm not even gonna lie. God damn, I 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.960 see you bossed by Coca Cola and but wise it 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:43.400 the same day. So so a lot of people don't know, 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.440 right d Let's take it from the beginning, Like you 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:48.880 one of my favorite records in hip hop. I don't know. 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.640 I know you probably tired of this goddamn story every 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:53.359 time I tell you that every time I see you. 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.960 But did you would do something? My name is de Nice? 0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:01.000 Was you you would do that? Douce it? And he 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:05.880 rhymed on its crazy. So so let's take it from 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.319 there to Self Destruction, right, just being a part of 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:14.520 that movement from then what what what was it? Like? Well, 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:19.080 I produced that record too, that's my produced Self Destruction. Yeah. 0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.759 I produced Self Destruction when I was eighteen, so yeah, 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.720 I didn't know that. That's one of my favorite records. Yeah, 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:28.719 that's how I ended up rapping on the song because 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.719 that's first record I knew all the lyrics because it 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.359 was on the back of the vinyl. Yea yeah, yeah, yea, 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.120 yeah I did that. I wasn't supposed to produce that record. 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:42.399 It happened because um well really I was a young kid, 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.279 you know what I mean, Like the Bomb Squad, like 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:46.560 you know Douggie, even though Douggie is my man, Duggie's 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.520 my broth for life, but they really wanted the Bomb 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.960 Squad to produce it, but care Res Squad for me 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.520 the Caress and a woman named an Carly who worth 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.520 the Jive record was like, no, the whole point of 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.359 this is like bomb squads to people who produced Ice 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.040 Cub like that public enemy, yeah, public enemy, but as 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:05.120 a public enemy's team. Yeah continue, I'm sorry, yeah, so 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.040 um yeah, but they trusted me with that. So even 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.160 on the chorus, like that's me and like two of 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.560 my friends, these two young ladies from back in the day. 0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.160 You know, I did the track. It was my whole 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:20.239 concept to like I arranged everything. That's crazy. I was. 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.399 I was eighteen, man, Wow, I was a young kid, 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.319 the young kid doing it. And then how did you 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.160 how as a as an eighteen year old you you 0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:32.600 was already b DP from before that? Yes, I was. 0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:36.920 How old did you get into into b DP at fifteen? Wow? 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.759 He was d J for Chris No, no, no, no, no. 0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.440 I didn't even have a role when I so it 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.000 was the story. It was Kenny Parker, Yeah, tell us everything. 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.239 I didn't. I didn't meet Kenny until years later. He 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.040 was Kitty wasn't initially in the group. Kenny was in 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.920 the group. He was more like the BDP crew, not 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.279 not part of like wholead on productions beating products and 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.239 met Carress on it, Scott Lack really solid Caress one 0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.160 of myself. They had it before I was involved. And 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.000 Cares lived in the men shelter in the Bronx and 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.600 Scott worked there, and my cousin was a security guard. 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.279 So I brought my cousin some food and then he 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:12.680 um he was like, yeah, I want to introduce you 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:15.240 to somebody, and then he took me into Scott's office, 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.360 introduced me to Scott, and Scott eventually introduced me to 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.640 Caress who lived there. Um and that's you know, literally 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.480 like in that moment, that's how I got done with 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.680 the group. Like there was no I didn't do all 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.920 of the battleship the Carorest was doing like nothing. Scott 0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:31.560 just looked at me and was like, yo, I want 0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.560 you to be down with my group. Literally like that, 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:37.359 and you're a kid because they were already older. They 0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:41.320 were like two yeah, so uh but yeah, I know 0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.680 it was you know, Dave. The funny thing is I 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.680 was telling Chappelle this story and he was like, oh, 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.120 hold on, hold on. He just stunned out, like I 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:54.680 just y'all, I continue you No, It's just it's just 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:56.799 I wanted to share the way his mind works, right, 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.399 So I was like, yeah, Dave, you know, he asked 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.120 me how to how to meet Scott Chris. I told him. 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.000 I was like, yo, I was. I cooked my cousins 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:06.440 and food and I walked because they the shelter was 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:07.799 on the on the east side. I lived on the 0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.839 west side of the Bronx and you know there were 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.920 no oobers and ship like that back then. And you 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:15.239 know I was mad bro old Jay, but I have 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:22.239 o J money though. Now you're gonna get down. But 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.839 so yeah, so I walked like three miles and then Dave, 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.960 Dave stopped me. He was like, yo, you walked three 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:33.800 miles from your house with food to feed your future. 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.360 Like that's the Deak ship because that's literally what happened. 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.319 I wasn't you know what I'm saying, like you you 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.680 grew up rhumbing and all of that ships. I wasn't rhyming. 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.879 I walked into the situation where it was like, yo, 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.279 I want you to be a part of this. So yeah, 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.960 that's that's a Scotlar Rock story man. So I was 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.279 just lookingna Gilly right and me and him both have 0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.560 a similar story meeting. You know, we both started out 0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.440 wrapping and then you know we wind up doing this 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.880 other career. You got like three or four like d like, 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.719 I think you can't started out with ducing start, then 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.279 you wrapping all you was rapping and producing pretty much 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.560 the same time. Then you had this whole photography, you 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.880 got this whole Yeah, like Rover now photography sing. I 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.799 know I'm skipping, I'm skipping and I'm bouncing around, but 0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.239 I remember at one point like I wanted you to 0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:26.719 film my album cover, like you were one of the 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.120 first dudes. Though that's the funny part I got this, Okay. 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:33.000 So here's the thing about photography. So before photography, I've 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:36.120 always love photography, but I wasn't photographing anyone. I just 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.120 had a love of photography because I met Gordon Parks 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.080 and he photographed me. They did this whole breakday in 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.040 Harlem with all of the all of the old school 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:47.120 hip hop dudes for Double XL magazine. So like me 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.960 watching him was like watching this older man and the 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:53.680 time is probably like you know, and it's like late seventies, 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.120 still passionate about what he was doing. He was still 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.160 you know, his hands was shaking, but he was still shooting. 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.560 Somebody was a little to film. I was like, damn, 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.640 that's I want that kind of life though, you know, 0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:04.600 like when I'm older, I could still do what I 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:09.040 love and m and uh and so so. But before photography, 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:12.440 I started a web development company. That's how I actually 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:17.840 met you. I was doing um I built the violator website. Yeah, 0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.960 I built the violated website. Chris. Chris was always like 0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:23.839 because I still wanted to wrap, but Chris was like, yo, bro, 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.560 you're you're you're better than that, Like, Yo, you know 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.680 you don't really need to shop demos. You're a smart dude, 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.640 like you can figure this out. So he was like 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.640 always supporting me with all of these other new ventures 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.400 that I was getting into. So when I started building websites, 0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:39.160 he was like, yo, build the build a valley a 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.799 site for me. Then he would you know, he had 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.000 me doing like the online marketing for the gun shoot 0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:49.000 then um then uh I shot. I shot fifties um 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:54.000 um one of his um reboke campaigns um. And that 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.080 that came about because I went to Chris's wedding when 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:57.680 he got mat when he was married at the Vaskaya. 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:00.319 I was there and I really didn't have was like, 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.280 you know, I wasn't making people like that. So instead 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.520 of like buying a gift, because it was like registered 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:10.120 a like ABC Carpets if we priced, I walked in there. 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.000 All that was left on the registry was like this 0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:18.399 is nine thousand dollars. I'm like, oh, hell noodd real 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.920 quick though, because I don't want I want to catch 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:22.640 something real quick like a gem in this is that 0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:25.960 you was you was already m C and he was 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.080 already producing. He was down with the legendary crew BDP 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:33.719 Downward Violator. Most like I think like, was it hard 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:38.200 for you to to to to go and like venture 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.480 off and do like web designers and that, because I 0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.040 think most people that that are that already were rapping 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.680 their celebrities their mcs, they don't see themselves doing these 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.400 different things like that that are behind the scenes. Like 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.040 was it was it difficult for you? Or was it 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.799 like no, this is natural to me? What what? What? 0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:55.680 The best the best part of the story that I 0:52:55.800 --> 0:53:00.160 left out is that I was considered old school and 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:04.200 when he was young still, you know, I mean like 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.600 I was considered the old school rapper and they weren't. 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:08.520 They didn't have any old school shows back then, so 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.080 it wasn't like like now you can do the Masters 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:12.520 of the Mic or any of that kind of ship, 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.160 you know, but stop you doing it, just like let 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.480 me stop, let me stop you for one second. I'm 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:21.000 considered the old school rapper, right and Kanye Rest and 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:24.040 Rick Ross and push your tea is all older than me. 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.680 How about that? How you like those apples? That's great 0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:30.319 because is older than me. But I'm considered the old 0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.560 school guy. Jay is older than me, oler than me, 0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:36.120 and I'm like, these things don't do it, but I'm 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:42.840 old school. You know that that was that was That 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:44.680 was a rough ship though, man like to be considered 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.799 old school when when you know, when this ship stopped you, 0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:50.040 nobody was clapping. I was like, yo, how do you 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.440 you know, move on with your life? You know, obviously 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:54.799 we weren't paper up like the way you make money down, 0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:59.040 you know what I'm saying, Like ship two, my Max shows, 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.759 I was getting like grant a night. You know what 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.680 I'm saying, Like you know, I mean you give a 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.520 math of that. That That sho ain't gonna last that long. Um, 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:09.280 So for like seven years, I really have nothing, no money, nothing, 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.919 you know, thank god, my my, my, you know. Then 0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:14.319 wife at the time, you know, she worked and I 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.839 was still able to not have the passion lead you know, 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.960 like I knew I was gonna be on the suthing. 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.520 But you know, it takes a strong, strong partner to 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.960 be with you to understand that. Um you know, so 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.279 for like seven years, I had nothing, bro, you know 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.479 what I'm saying, like trying to figure it out. I'm 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.759 fell in the web development because I just love it's 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:38.040 some fucking crazy ship. So when I wasn't rapping and 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.320 I was trying to figure out life, I would always 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.360 be on my computer building like bulletin boards when they 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.839 just had a well, so I was young, just taking 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.720 the computer part of building it, and so I always 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:52.520 had like you know this this passion for like anything created. 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:56.080 So you know, years later, you know, like fast forward 0:54:56.120 --> 0:55:01.719 to my old managers started a way development company, but 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.520 he couldn't get work. I was connected because I have 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.240 records out, you know what I mean, and like cool, 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.520 like all right, let me trying to help you guys 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:12.719 get some work. But I wanted pieces of the company 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:13.840 and they didn't want to give me a piece of 0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:16.000 the company. Like and I was I mean, I pulled 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:18.160 in at least site, like we were just building these 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.279 sites for like quarter of a million dollars and every 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.400 month I was making like you know, seven hundred and 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.000 fifty dollars a month, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.680 while the company is generating all this money, but the 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.520 thing that I did was I used to just sit 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:31.400 over the shoulders of like some of the programmers and 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:35.120 just watch. And I decided to just leave and start 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:36.959 my own company. So that's how Chris and I became 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:40.279 super cool. Because when I started making money, you know, 0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:42.560 I was building these websites hundred thousands, and I was 0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:46.040 a site at the time. You know, I wanted to 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:49.160 revisit my rap career and Chris was like, yo, you 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.279 get something good going on, you know what I mean? Like, 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:55.040 and the story is, I really wasn't trying to hear 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:58.400 Chris telling me that. So I bought a car, drove 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:06.160 to North Carolina to see my grandmother. But boy, what's 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:12.000 the funniest ship ever? That nothing Chris said to me resonated. 0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:14.120 It was what Kane said to me. King was like, 0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:16.319 you know, I stopped at his house and I was like, yo, 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.080 I haven't seen Kanan like damn in a decade, like LB, like, 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.160 you know, I want to make music again. And Kane 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:22.960 looked at me, he was like, look at you man, 0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.640 you're doing well. He was like me, oh I could 0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.040 do was rap? He was like, I can't get a 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.040 job to be done. Was to have some little kids 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.080 rolling up on me like, yo, let me get a 0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:39.040 berth and they'll have stepping with that R a W. 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:44.960 You know, make sure it's not r a W. That 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.160 was like the really ship that anyone has ever said 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:48.480 to me. And I was like, you know what, bro, 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:50.960 let me just live in this moment that I have 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.719 right now. You know, I got something cool happening. And 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:56.240 then I just got deeper into it, and like Chris 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:58.120 was always there, bro, and you know, not to make 0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.080 the conversation about Chris, but it's all good. It was. 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.000 It was like those important moments in my career that 0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:07.520 happened where it wasn't just about me, like you know 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:09.960 where I got, like in terms of like DJ online, 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:14.480 like that ship was thirty five years of like history 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.600 to get to that point. I think it wasn't gonna 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:21.400 just happen for anybody people deja online anyway, but it 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.480 wasn't gonna happen for anyone the way it happened for 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:26.919 me that night, because no, no hold on hole, because 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:28.280 I don't want to get there. Yeah I want to. 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:32.240 You know, I could talk all day. But Gilly, Gilly, 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.600 when you started doing the podcast thing, did you feel 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.200 like that too, like it wasn't something that you wanted 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.160 to um hold on to, like the wrapping part of you. 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.880 And did you feel like this this? You know what 0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:47.440 I mean? I mean sometimes you say you know because 0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:52.120 you knew we gotta now, we gotta marketing platform. You 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:54.560 feel what I'm saying. I got, I got the podcast, 0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:59.120 I got, I got a million plus followers. So a 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.960 part of you a, uh, let me cook something h 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:06.240 and throw it out. But then you know, another part 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.880 of you enjoy what you do as a podcaster. So 0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.720 you have somebody tell you, like how like Kane told 0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:16.000 him to chill on the wrapping? Has anybody ever told 0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:18.600 you that yet? No? Because because see I just like 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:20.880 I just went up on swite. He put me on 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:26.120 Front Street and you know about fourteen the people reposted 0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:31.400 that motherfucker. So and let me know I'm still talking 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:36.600 what they wanted is okay, okay, okay. So now now 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.920 the nice last time I've seen you, I believe it 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:47.840 was in Mallible Noble Noble, Noble and brother Shot Kim. 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:51.440 Now what's your relationship with Shot Kim? So shot him 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.400 and I in Dana Queen Lande. We've been friends. Well, 0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:56.920 you know Shot him and Dana obviously a family and friends. 0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:59.040 You know they've been got you gotta call creen light 0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:03.280 teeth from far off as all right, so I retlect that, man, 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:08.760 everybody don't. So now I've been friends with them since 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:13.320 roughly around like nineteen eighties, seven eighty eight, around eight um, 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.560 yeah you know. And then you know we moved Like 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:18.280 when I got my first real crib in Jersey you know, 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:21.200 me Shot Dana and I'm sorry, Shot Queen. A lot 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:25.280 of teefa lived in the same building in Jersey City. 0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:27.880 Like yo, if one of us were like I was 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:30.600 doing shows, you know, the other person would pay, like 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:32.400 the other person's friends just give it back when we 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.520 see Like so you know my old like when I 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.680 started my management company back when I was still rapping, 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:38.760 Like my offices were in the flavoring the offices. So 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.360 Kim is just my guy, you know, like talking three 0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:45.000 decades of the friendship and and never had an argument, 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:46.960 you know what I mean, Like it's like some real 0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:51.880 yeah yes, and he's solid dude. So it's so dama yes, 0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.080 wow yeah yeah yeah. Like people like they when they 0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:57.560 talk about they're like Todd, I'd be like, yo, man, 0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:02.800 I could never call like I'm from Queens raised. Batman 1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:06.520 is l L cool Jack. He can tell me his 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.760 name is Todd. He can tell me his name is James, 1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:11.240 and tell me call that. And I'm like, yol my 1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:15.520 queens nous. Well not let me call you anything. I'm 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:19.160 still calling. I'm sorry, like he's been trying to like 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:23.200 personalize our relationship myself. Sorry, I gotta keep addressing you 1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:27.200 as all hell motherfucking cool James. I love you. I 1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.200 love hell Man. He's a yeah, he's a solid dude bro. 1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:35.000 And I'm not from Queens Man. I just love it. 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:43.720 L We're gonna you know, you know, uh all right, boom, 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:48.840 quarantine happens, right everyone, you know, us as black people, 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:52.840 we all laughed at first. When the coronavirus hit. Everyone 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:56.160 had I drink Corona, you know what I'm saying. Everyone 1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:58.960 was like, I don't know people, I'm funk Corona. People, 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:01.720 that's funk RONA was like, I'm phone Corona. I can't 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:05.560 get Corona. And then this this this pandemic of the 1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:09.600 pandemic happens boom, and everybody starts seeing these bodies dropped 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:14.000 and people off taking it serious. Everybody is actually home 1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:18.240 what makes you say what makes you say, Yo, listen, 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:21.880 I'm gonna start playing this music and I'm gonna play 1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:24.000 it for the world, because I believe the first night 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:26.040 you did it was like two hundred and fifty people, right, 1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:28.840 it's a little on the two hundred, yes, And then 1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:31.880 the second night was like twenty thousand something like. That 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:36.440 second night it was like two thousand. Third day, yeah, yeah, 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:40.080 the third day it hit like eight thousand. Then that Friday, 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:42.840 the Friday, it hit like twenty five thousand people. And 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.520 then and then it was that Saturday when it went crazy. 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:48.560 You know, even though it shows like a hundred thousand 1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:51.080 people consistently in there as you know, like no one 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:52.960 is holding their phone for I was like that. So 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:55.880 they did the numbers. It was like millions of people 1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:59.200 that were in there during that entire time, and that 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:00.920 you know, that was like the first time that anything 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:03.840 like that has ever happened. And you know it's I mean, 1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:06.640 you know, people are like everyone's using i G Live now, 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:09.880 So those numbers are like kind of small. Now, you think, 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:11.960 like a hundred thousands of small compared to like what 1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:15.720 Versus is doing or or Tory Lanes. But it just 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:17.600 felt good to be like the first person to do 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:22.240 something like that, the first person to crack it over didn't. 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:25.680 It's that one night, right, It's everything was building up 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:28.320 and I'm talking about I kid you not, my text messages, 1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:31.360 my Twitter, Everybody's like, yo, yo, You're going to the 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:33.880 D nice party. And it was just hilarious because everyone 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.800 was like, everyone's really like But then it's that one 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:40.000 nights that I think. It's the one night where yeah, 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:45.600 Joe Widen was there, Um, the Obama's was there. Um, Like, 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:50.439 first of all, how does it feel like? Because that's 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:55.000 like packing for football stadiums, right, having having a hundred 1:02:55.040 --> 1:02:58.480 thousand people there, and they're really they're like just with that, 1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:01.800 Like even with Versus will all due respect, Versus is 1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:06.040 about competition. Even Torry Lanes, Torry Lanes is you know, 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.440 he's being funny, he's being great, and but it's it's 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.760 still sexual. So some people are there to see that. 1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:14.800 Type of people are just there to see D change 1:03:14.840 --> 1:03:19.400 his act and play music and change his glasses here 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:37.960 changing right now, paying say, and got there. What's crazy 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:40.439 about it to me, man, is that Yo, for all 1:03:40.480 --> 1:03:44.840 the years of DJ and it was about serving other people. 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:48.920 I was in your party. I was DJ, and you know, 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:51.760 the Obama's anago ball. I would fly to the house 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:55.800 and playing event for them or sad again man, because 1:03:55.800 --> 1:03:58.840 you can't say that lightly. He was DJ and Obama's 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:03.400 not g ball. Yes, DJ, the inaugural ball fly over 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:07.480 my head. That's been right over my head. So you 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:09.520 know that's why I said, like, what happened that day 1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:12.160 could not It couldn't have been anyone else, man, because 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:15.520 it was it was here the service of Like that's 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:18.280 what I do, Like I never you know, I don't 1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:21.280 know what anyone is doing, man, Like I've always just 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:23.520 been a low key dude. I don't like red carpets. 1:04:23.520 --> 1:04:25.360 I got to do my job and then I'm gonna 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:27.560 hate red carpets. Something. I hate red carpets and what 1:04:28.680 --> 1:04:32.240 and did real quickly Again, I just feel like the 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:34.800 humility and what you've been doing forever, which is a 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:37.040 lot of DJs do as well. And I've seen you 1:04:37.080 --> 1:04:39.520 over the years. You've done stuff for big brands and 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:42.240 you've done all these like like different things. I feel 1:04:42.280 --> 1:04:44.440 like it was a lead up because you've been doing 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:49.400 ill private parties, ill exclusive things, ill brand parties and 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:52.680 That's what like the lead up was to like consolidating 1:04:52.720 --> 1:04:56.400 all that stuff you've been doing. Yes, I thought was 1:04:56.400 --> 1:05:00.200 super dope. Is that I felt like it represented the 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:04.520 role that DJs have kind of not lost for ourselves, 1:05:04.520 --> 1:05:07.440 but that the culture kind of hasn't seen us in 1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:12.080 that role. And you exemplified that role for us as DJ's, 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:14.760 especially as hip hop dj you know what I mean, 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:18.040 because DM DJs had been getting it you know, oh yeah, 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.520 no hip hop DJ specifically like really like hip hop 1:05:21.560 --> 1:05:26.640 DJs and just imagining yourself being great, like you know, 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:29.080 like all of the lessons. This is the funny part, 1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:31.440 All of the lessons that I learned along the way 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:35.000 that I thought was like irritating to me, Like you know, 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:37.240 like I mean, this is no disrespect and this is 1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:39.560 not about any one particular DJ, but they are like 1:05:39.840 --> 1:05:42.800 iconic DJs that when I returned to the scene where 1:05:42.840 --> 1:05:44.600 I wanted to open up for them, like New York 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:47.080 DJs and and their team is like now you old school, 1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:50.480 So I had to go. I had to go the 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:54.200 straight white play rouler. I mean, like because my hip 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:57.360 hop DJs weren't really like rocking with me, Like I 1:05:57.400 --> 1:06:00.080 went to like small spots in New York, and I 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:01.720 was getting like a hundred and fifty dollars a night 1:06:01.720 --> 1:06:04.080 to wat for six hours. And I didn't care because 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:05.840 I was like, yo, I was doing my web development 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:08.160 ships and not just wanted an opportunity to play music. 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:11.480 And when they embraced me in that on that side, 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:13.240 I was like, Oh, this is the music that I 1:06:13.280 --> 1:06:15.920 actually grew up playing. Anyway, Like if you were watching 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:18.720 videos in the eighties waiting for run DMC or Michael 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:23.240 Jackson or anything urban you have the other watching all 1:06:23.240 --> 1:06:27.680 that ship was saying with a BDP, not party from there. No. 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:31.360 I was caressed as DJ, but not never a party DJ. 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:34.640 I was never doing what I do now the ship 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:37.280 that I do now. I learned how to do it 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:41.960 around around two thousand and three. Two thousand and five 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:43.880 is really when I found my footing. So around two 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:47.720 thousand and three, I started to like study DJs, Like 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:49.959 I knew I was never gonna be the ill turn 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:53.360 table list. That wasn't my, that wasn't me. Like I'm 1:06:53.400 --> 1:06:55.920 an uptown dude. I'm really I'm from Harlem. I was 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:58.400 born in Harlem Hospital. I lived in my formative he 1:06:58.520 --> 1:07:00.360 is in the Bronx when they started making me. But 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:02.800 I'm a Harlem dude, Like I'm a Harlem uptown, like 1:07:03.000 --> 1:07:05.320 everybody's fly you want to just play the fly sh 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:07.959 it like I wanted that. I wanted to play Rising 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:11.880 to the Top and mix it like Brucie Bean all that. 1:07:12.200 --> 1:07:14.120 So I didn't want to be like Scratch or Clark 1:07:14.200 --> 1:07:16.360 Ken or I mean, actually Clark Clark gets I mean 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:18.600 they're all get busy anyway, but like Clark blends a 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:20.720 lot um, Scratch blends a lot too. But I didn't 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:22.440 want to be the turntables dudes. I just wanted to 1:07:22.480 --> 1:07:27.080 be playing a sexy ship, you know, so some smooth ass. 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:31.400 You just want a smooth set. Yeah, I started studying 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:33.320 like house music DJ's. I would. I would go to 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:37.880 like you Little Louis Vegas party at cle every Wednesday 1:07:38.200 --> 1:07:40.120 and just sit there and watch him and watch. I 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:42.040 would just watch the crowd. You know, I'm not a dancer. 1:07:42.040 --> 1:07:44.560 I would just go play the wall watch and I'm like, 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:46.800 holy sh it, Okay, I see it. And that's how 1:07:46.840 --> 1:07:48.680 I really got my whole, my whole thing going, and 1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:50.959 you know, and then and didn't kind of circle back 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:53.880 to like hip hop. But luckily for me, man, I 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:56.320 was able to, like I broke through all of this 1:07:56.400 --> 1:07:59.440 ship that people are having a hard time breaking through 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:02.840 in terms of private events because I'd already established myself 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:06.200 in that world. You know, I already established myself in 1:08:06.200 --> 1:08:08.280 that world because I was doing those events that like 1:08:08.360 --> 1:08:10.560 most most hip hop DJs didn't want to do. They 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:13.480 didn't understand the music. They didn't understand. Like one of 1:08:13.520 --> 1:08:16.880 the things that happened that night was remember Kenny Rogers 1:08:16.880 --> 1:08:20.599 that passed that week, I started blending Kenny Roger records. 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:22.280 You know what I'm saying, because I have. It's like 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:25.280 that's what we grew up list crazy crazy, you know, 1:08:25.400 --> 1:08:27.840 like and that was people wrote about that like yeo, 1:08:27.920 --> 1:08:31.439 he played everything. And if you can tell that I 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:33.040 love the music by the way that I play it, 1:08:33.080 --> 1:08:35.599 you know, it feels natural. It's not it's not I mean, 1:08:35.920 --> 1:08:38.360 you DJ bro, It's not even based on like any 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:41.280 specific genre. It's like a fear in that that you 1:08:41.320 --> 1:08:43.880 would vote when you blend these records. So it's just 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:47.360 beautiful to see that during this during this crazy time, 1:08:48.080 --> 1:08:51.559 yef it only plays where he wants. Yeah, I don't 1:08:51.560 --> 1:08:54.439 know if the cadis to the crowd at all. You 1:08:54.520 --> 1:08:59.840 gotta relax. That's why I got I got my vinal 1:09:00.000 --> 1:09:04.839 it over here. Look, yo, but he he caters to himself, 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:08.320 which is dope. Though that's originally what DJs to do too, 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:10.479 but then you had that. So let me ask you something. 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:13.479 Is that pressure like when you know him that these 1:09:13.479 --> 1:09:16.400 people are not only in the room there commented you know, 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:19.400 from the Joe Bidens to the shallow Obama's Is this 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:21.640 something that you like when you know somebody walks in 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:24.160 the building. Are you saying to myself, let me play 1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:27.080 Let me play this for Z to get them hype 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:29.439 because I played them before. Or Oprah is in here 1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:32.200 like open you have listen, Let let me just explain 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:36.519 something to you. You have Oprah and r E Joe 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:40.200 Biden the same. I would never be in the party, 1:09:40.240 --> 1:09:48.400 was would never say the thugs and the politicians. I'm smoking, 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:52.479 I'm feeling great like yo. Like, So, isn't a certain 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:54.439 pressure that you got when you know certain people in 1:09:54.439 --> 1:09:58.080 the building or it's just like it fuse you up now, 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:01.320 it fused me up. Like so if you'd rather watch 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:04.040 like people dj R, I g like even right right, now, 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:07.680 they don't engage with like the people that are in 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:10.200 the room. They usually just playing music. They're not really 1:10:10.200 --> 1:10:12.519 playing attention to. Sometimes they look at the comments, but 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:14.760 then they just go back and playing. My thing was 1:10:15.160 --> 1:10:19.000 I wanted the average person that's listening to feel just 1:10:19.040 --> 1:10:22.559 as important as Michelle Obama, because that's the only chance 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:24.840 that you're probably gonna get to like really not like 1:10:25.160 --> 1:10:28.160 the average person's gonna really get to be and to 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:30.839 be like, yo, I was in the same party as 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.960 this person, and that's what they're saying. Yeah, and that's 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:36.960 and so it was like I just started doing these shoutouts. 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:39.679 I never talked this much. First of all, I don't 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:42.560 even like talking on them like in my regular party's No, 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:45.120 it was about the music. But I started talking to 1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:48.040 what they're reminded me of the old school Harlem parties 1:10:48.040 --> 1:10:50.200 to pay the full parties, Like when somebody walk in 1:10:50.200 --> 1:10:52.200 the building and when you said they named people were 1:10:52.200 --> 1:10:54.880 get in Texas people like like it was. That's what 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:56.840 it reminds me, I saw because you and that's actually 1:10:56.880 --> 1:10:59.800 how people feel about that ship too exactly. They come 1:10:59.840 --> 1:11:02.280 in there, I'll start I'll just shout him out and 1:11:02.320 --> 1:11:05.760 then it's like the end of scene. You know a 1:11:06.080 --> 1:11:08.639 names every day You're like, bro, when I sign on line, 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:10.920 not about the celebrities like I do see a lot 1:11:10.960 --> 1:11:13.320 of celebrities, like Mariah's in there almost every day, and 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:16.920 like Bobby Flame, like would be like the most random 1:11:17.800 --> 1:11:19.600 I did have said earlier. It was like Dally I 1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:25.200 was in then, uh, Donny Wahberg, the crew, Stephanie Mills, 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:28.160 It's just like all over the place man. Ari Lennox 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:30.840 like yeah, you know, but it's it's just dope to be. 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:33.280 First of all, I turned fifty next month, right, you 1:11:33.280 --> 1:11:39.000 know what I'm saying, and like, right that cheers to 1:11:39.000 --> 1:11:42.040 that because that ship was looking scary, that she was 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:43.439 looking scary. I was like, I don't want to be 1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:46.960 the club and fifty. Hey, but you're making the club 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:51.040 at fifty. Let's do it. Almost second guy, Yeah, y'all 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:52.840 keep going and watch my hand. You know. Let me 1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:55.320 ask you something, d like, this is something that we really, 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:57.360 me and my boys were talking about and I want 1:11:57.400 --> 1:11:59.760 you to be honest about this. Right when it when 1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:03.439 it really took off, the club quarantine stuff, it felt 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:06.080 like there was almost a pressure for you to continue 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:15.080 it and the subsequent like days that you started doing Yo, 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:18.400 yeah can you? I mean yeah, like we were worried 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:20.680 about your health. You cut out for a minute. What 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:21.840 did you say? What was the court? Like we were 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:23.800 saying we was worried about your health. We thought that 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:26.519 that maybe there was a pressure for you to to 1:12:26.520 --> 1:12:30.200 to continually do this every night. And me and my 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:32.160 my people we were talking about like, yo, man, I 1:12:32.200 --> 1:12:34.280 hope he doesn't feel like he has to do this, 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:36.880 you know, like like it's it might be too much, 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:39.559 you know. Yeah, it wasn't about the people though. That's 1:12:39.600 --> 1:12:41.120 what I want to say. I want to remind people 1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:44.719 that going on every day, it ended up becoming about 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:48.240 people about like knowing that the music is healing, and 1:12:48.280 --> 1:12:51.479 in particular, like in that my I g live for 1:12:51.520 --> 1:12:54.920 some reason, the conversation is just different and it's full 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:58.599 of love. So yes, I enjoy it. But in the beginning, dude, 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:00.960 the way people out and the way they enjoyed the 1:13:01.040 --> 1:13:02.600 music was the same way that I felt when I 1:13:02.600 --> 1:13:05.120 played the music. It felt like it was healing me 1:13:05.439 --> 1:13:07.439 because I've been here by myself, you know what I mean, 1:13:07.439 --> 1:13:09.640 Like I'm home alone, I don't have any family in 1:13:09.800 --> 1:13:11.720 l A I mean I have close friends here, but 1:13:11.800 --> 1:13:14.679 like my kids are in Michigan and my oldest daughters 1:13:14.680 --> 1:13:17.479 and Penn State Law school, and you know, my mom 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:20.720 is in New York. You know, I'm single, Like yo, 1:13:20.800 --> 1:13:22.960 I'm home with nothing, and nother ship was like yo, 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:27.479 the music and going on was saving me from you know, 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:29.479 I don't want to say depression, just you know, out 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:32.800 of respect for people that actually battle with depression, but like, yeah, 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:35.280 like she was heavy though, you know it was it 1:13:35.400 --> 1:13:38.880 was a minor version of depression happening happening, you know, 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:43.320 like it's um, just imagine this, bro, Like, Okay, you guys, 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:45.400 have you got the show, you got the podcast, you 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:47.800 got you know what I'm saying, you got the TV show? 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:51.120 Be all this stuff going on right before like a DJ. 1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:54.439 All you have You're show was still going on right 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:58.679 now before DJ, and you know you have no shows. 1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:03.080 There's no income, lost everything, lost everything. So I'm sitting 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:04.960 here like, yeah, I did very well. You know, I 1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:07.760 don't know I did. You know, I did very well. 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.400 You know where I invested, but like all my investments 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:12.680 were going down, which they will probably bounce back, but 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:17.640 the market was bad. Yeah, all of the festivals were 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:20.720 being canceled. So I had I had my music week. 1:14:20.880 --> 1:14:24.880 I had Ultra I mean not Ultra h south By Southwest, 1:14:25.160 --> 1:14:29.599 I had you know, a c L you know, SU festival, 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:34.320 so playing the main stage, everything, Beat, awards, every gig 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:37.280 was just being canceled left and right. So then I 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:39.160 wasn't with my family, so just the match and I 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:41.840 you know, I did four hundred thou miles flight miles 1:14:41.960 --> 1:14:44.040 last year. I was on the plane like every other day, 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:46.280 either going to see my kids or going to a gig. 1:14:46.320 --> 1:14:49.000 And I did a lot of gigs last year. Now 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:51.720 I'm stuck at home and I don't even recognize home 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:54.000 because I never really made it home because I was 1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:57.639 always gone, So I didn't make my place home. I'm 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:01.880 not with my kids, I'm single, my jigs are being canceled. 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:04.240 I don't know when we're gonna go back to work. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:07.120 I did well, but not not well enough to be 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:09.679 sitting and like paying bills for a year and a half, 1:15:09.760 --> 1:15:11.960 you know what I'm saying, Like like this was like 1:15:12.000 --> 1:15:14.559 some crazy and then I was turning fifty. I'm like, yo, 1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:18.040 I don't want to be My investment is a bad 1:15:18.160 --> 1:15:20.880 right now, all of the games you cancel. That's why 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:23.000 I sat. And there's a very spot where I'm sitting 1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:25.280 right now. This is where it all began, right here. 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:29.439 That's I was in the room. I was in my bedroom, 1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:32.200 and I was frustrating. I was like yo oh. And 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:34.400 on top of it, I was being fucking audited for 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:36.639 like some dumb ship that you know what I'm saying, like, 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:39.880 you know, So it was like the pressure of all 1:15:39.880 --> 1:15:43.960 of that, and and in one moment, I felt like 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:46.680 like the universe was just saying, like be still. Like 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:48.640 I literally heard, you know, you just need to be 1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:51.479 still and to DJ, that's what they said, pull out 1:15:51.520 --> 1:15:54.519 your equipment and nah, I just it just it's said 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:57.559 to be stilled. That was it. And I got up 1:15:57.560 --> 1:16:01.800 and I sat right here still like like right, yeah, Now, 1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:04.000 it wasn't I wasn't even I wasn't even trying to 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:06.559 DJ online. The funny thing is I didn't even want 1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:10.320 a DJ. I sat here just because I wanted to 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:12.439 sign in the I G Live and play a couple 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:15.160 of songs, and I wanted to interview. I really wanted 1:16:15.160 --> 1:16:17.280 to do what you guys are doing. I wanted to 1:16:17.320 --> 1:16:20.760 interview artists, but I had this interview series back to 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:24.200 day called True Epop Stories, So yeah, I remember those. Yeah. 1:16:24.200 --> 1:16:26.000 I was telling my buddies in the cigar barb the 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:27.760 night of the quarantine, and I was like, you know what, 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:30.519 we're all trying to figure out what the plan was, Like, well, 1:16:30.560 --> 1:16:32.200 how are we gonna spend this what we thought was 1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:34.080 gonna be two weeks? I was like, you know, I 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:36.400 think I'm just gonna go into to this this uh 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:39.640 I g Live section of Instagram and like invite my 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:42.280 friends in and just and interview them. That's all I 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:44.800 wanted to do. So I was just playing songs and 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:48.559 just telling stories about like y'all remember being the party 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:51.240 and Bruce and b played this, and like, you know, 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:54.120 that's all I was doing that. Nothing hooked up, no 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:56.360 turn tables, nothing. I didn't even have turn tables here. 1:16:56.560 --> 1:16:58.559 I mean I have in my closet, but they weren't 1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:01.479 hooked up by mixers. Old at some fifty seven doesn't 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:04.080 work with the new software. You know, I never had 1:17:04.120 --> 1:17:06.479 that ship looked up at all. I've seen the picture 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:09.280 you posted behind the scene showing the rig the way 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:11.120 you had set it up. Yeah, and I still have 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:13.360 it all crazy looking too, I refused to like change 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:17.519 anything because I like, like, I like the story aspect 1:17:17.520 --> 1:17:20.599 of it, Like I'm putting ship together with everything that's 1:17:20.640 --> 1:17:23.640 around here, like my favorite books. And Will Smith sent 1:17:23.760 --> 1:17:28.160 me water the first night. He was showing some water 1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:32.559 to hol Go sit you water. You got some water. 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:41.920 You got some water too, whills going on, Like I 1:17:42.040 --> 1:17:45.000 used all those boxes to elevate my speakers. I'm like, yo, 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:49.840 I keep really simple, bro. But you know, like sitting 1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:51.640 here was it was therapeutic though, man, Like you know 1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:55.000 what I'm saying, like playing that music, playing music that 1:17:55.200 --> 1:17:57.840 you know? Who told me that actually DJ was Cark Kent. 1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:01.080 He's like cork Park Park was in there every day. 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:03.120 Black Thought was in there every day, you know, like 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:05.360 Bumby was in there every day, you know, in the 1:18:05.400 --> 1:18:09.040 beginning before it became a thing. And I called Clark 1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:11.240 and I was like, yo, I don't know what this is, bro, 1:18:11.400 --> 1:18:15.040 but this ship feels good. He was like, yo, you 1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:16.400 know what you need to do. I was like what 1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:19.920 he was like, you should actually start DJing. But what 1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:21.519 I didn't know is you weren't supposed to do. I 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:22.840 mean I actually knew it, but I didn't think they 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:26.120 were gonna let me play music like that, and you 1:18:26.120 --> 1:18:30.519 know he was a copyright ship. He was just playing records. 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:33.080 I was. I was just playing songs, but they weren't 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:36.880 flagging me, so a damn, all right, this is when 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:39.960 you're messing me up now. So so you could playing 1:18:40.000 --> 1:18:44.960 songs isn't the same thing as DJ no. So I 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:49.120 was playing songs from my computer, from iTunes. Yeah, it 1:18:49.200 --> 1:18:52.240 was just playing them. So when I played my tunes, 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:54.360 I'm not a DJ at all, that's what you're telling me. 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:57.800 But I just do that. No, he just wasn't mixing. 1:18:57.880 --> 1:19:01.760 He was just playing. Yeah, wasn't mixing me. Okay, all right, 1:19:01.840 --> 1:19:05.840 So I wasn't mixing at all. So I was just 1:19:05.840 --> 1:19:09.800 playing songs. And then, uh, the funny thing man that 1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:12.440 day when the quarantine, when they was going on full lockdown, 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:14.360 I don't know. I was just like, yo, I try 1:19:14.479 --> 1:19:16.519 like using my turntables to mix it in and work. 1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:19.320 And then Kark was like, yo, my guy will just 1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:21.800 send you whatever you need for free. But I was like, yo, 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:23.920 I don't. I think I'm just gonna go buy something 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:26.559 because there was no telling how long it was gonna take. 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.280 And I had at the spirit of like, I really 1:19:29.280 --> 1:19:32.280 need to DJ right now, and I just you had 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:34.559 a sense of urgency at that point. Yeah. I was 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:37.000 like I don't know, Yeah, it just felt right. And 1:19:37.000 --> 1:19:38.880 that was that the night that was the first big night. 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:41.600 That's when that Friday night, when it was like it 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:44.240 was like twenty five thousand people in there, I'm like like, fun, 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:46.880 what is this becoming? Like Drake popped in I didn't 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:49.800 even know he was following me j Lo. Everybody just 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.280 kept popping in there. And then that next day that's 1:19:52.320 --> 1:19:54.639 when that ship was like that she was magical, bro, 1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:58.720 Like I was literally calling people. I was calling I 1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:04.240 was calling everyone like, oh, Joe Biden's campaign manager Like yeah, 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:07.800 but d do you think you you underestimated your legend? Bro? 1:20:09.760 --> 1:20:11.880 I don't think I ever looked at myself that way. 1:20:12.280 --> 1:20:14.479 So I guess I did underestimate because we all look 1:20:14.520 --> 1:20:17.280 at you that way. I never looked at it that way. 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:19.720 I always looked at it like yo, I'm you know 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:24.519 what we do, look man, the legend in my crew 1:20:25.439 --> 1:20:27.559 just imagine this. I had to live in the shadow 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:32.880 of one of the greatest ever. Yeah, I live in 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:37.639 the shadow of Caress my entire career. So I never 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:40.479 looked at it more than like, yo, than what it 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:42.360 was for me at the time of like this constant 1:20:42.400 --> 1:20:45.600 struggle to not ever be looked at as just the 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:47.920 dude that was in the shadow of Caress. So I 1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:50.960 never allowed myself to get comfortable with anything. It was 1:20:51.040 --> 1:20:53.160 just like, no, I gotta keep going, I gotta keep doing, 1:20:53.600 --> 1:20:55.120 Like now I know I'm in the shadow of no 1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:58.920 one like I know that for surely, like and that 1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:01.360 that's it would be the best feeling that I have 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:04.280 of all this, that one I hope like my crew 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:07.679 and me, you know, in particular BDP crew, like everyone. 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:09.720 I mean, I still I still talk to Chris every 1:21:09.720 --> 1:21:12.240 now and then, not not on the occasional side, but 1:21:12.280 --> 1:21:14.840 like like, I hope they feel a sense of like 1:21:14.920 --> 1:21:17.200 prime when it comes to this, like you know, they're 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:18.760 the man they do, you know what I mean, Like 1:21:18.840 --> 1:21:22.880 we're all from me knowing you. I felt a sense 1:21:22.880 --> 1:21:25.360 of pride. I remember the first couple of days, the 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:28.880 first start I'm happening and I started tuning in, and 1:21:29.000 --> 1:21:32.519 you know, my wife, her wife, her friends started hitting, 1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:34.679 hitting her and telling her, tell you are you watching 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:36.640 with with d nice is doing? And it just was 1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:39.839 a triple effect. I mean, I mean as an outside 1:21:39.880 --> 1:21:42.000 of looking and it was just like it was literally 1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:45.240 like going to a club. Like I was so happy 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:47.960 when you named the club Quarantine because it was the 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:50.360 first time I could be in the club with a 1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:55.479 person in Minnesota at the same exact time, same time, 1:21:55.520 --> 1:21:59.200 like like I could be on Eastern time, this person 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:02.599 could be on whatever, but we were all all in 1:22:02.760 --> 1:22:05.559 the same situation. And you can tell from the comments 1:22:05.560 --> 1:22:07.519 because that's what I started to do. Like what I 1:22:07.520 --> 1:22:11.040 started to do was when I was checking a text message, 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:14.720 it would log me out. So what I would do 1:22:14.880 --> 1:22:17.960 is I would go on for my son's iPad and 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:19.640 I would go on for my son's iPad, but I 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:22.320 would comment from my phone, so it would it looked 1:22:22.320 --> 1:22:24.040 like I never left. But you know what I'm saying, 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.280 Like you know what, But what I'm gonna tell you, 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:28.720 I'm trying to tell you if you were like this 1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:32.960 was something very very important, like and it was the 1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:36.320 way you brought the whole world together. Like a person 1:22:36.360 --> 1:22:38.000 who told me, it's two things. You can bring the 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:41.920 world together through few food and music. I had saw 1:22:41.920 --> 1:22:45.160 a little examples of it through music, but the like 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:49.320 the first real live example I've ever really seen music 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:56.760 from the world together was her brother Quarantine and it's 1:22:56.800 --> 1:23:00.680 it's you're shifting like first of all party where I 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:04.680 know they would kick me out in real life. In 1:23:04.760 --> 1:23:07.320 real life, I know they would kick me out because 1:23:07.360 --> 1:23:09.920 Joe Biden walked up into Joy. You know what's been 1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:14.400 like a great experience with with it is that so 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:17.920 that Friday could have been. It could have shifted in 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:20.639 a different direction. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because 1:23:20.720 --> 1:23:23.120 everyone was trying to figure out how to steal make money. 1:23:23.439 --> 1:23:26.439 So Thursday, when when they started to pop, this is 1:23:26.479 --> 1:23:29.799 like day three, I started getting calls from record companies 1:23:29.800 --> 1:23:32.040 and from other clients that it's like, Yo, can you 1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:34.559 play this record? And you name this I don't want 1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:39.040 to say the label, but like records Friday, and you know, 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:40.720 they had a bag for me. They were gonna have 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:43.320 two of the top artists, and you know all hip 1:23:43.360 --> 1:23:46.040 hop artists come in and you know they they have 1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:48.599 like tens of millions of followers. And I was like, yo, 1:23:48.640 --> 1:23:51.599 you know what you know that actually give me like 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:54.000 some you know, some credibility. Maybe they're because I was 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:56.400 struggling under two hundred thousand followers. I was like, Yo, 1:23:56.479 --> 1:23:59.000 maybe maybe some of these people so follow me. And 1:23:59.040 --> 1:24:01.839 I woke up that wanting that Friday wanting, I sweaty 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:04.080 broke once again. I sat on the edge of the 1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:06.599 bed and they were expecting me to do this at 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:09.840 three at a new three pm Eastern time, and I 1:24:09.920 --> 1:24:11.320 was sitting on a bed and I was like, Yo, 1:24:11.520 --> 1:24:14.560 this doesn't feel right, Like this doesn't This is the 1:24:14.640 --> 1:24:16.800 one chance that I have to just be me to 1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:19.240 play what I love, and here I am about to 1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:22.360 turn it into a record company's Friday night party and 1:24:22.439 --> 1:24:25.240 not follow my instincts. So I never called them. I 1:24:25.280 --> 1:24:28.800 never I never called, never blogged in with anyone. I 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:31.759 just signed on and started playing ship that I love again, 1:24:32.200 --> 1:24:36.280 Soul Records, R and V Joints, you know, mixing all 1:24:36.320 --> 1:24:39.639 of that out. So throughout this entire process, I never 1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:43.599 sacrificed my integrity at all, like four check. So those 1:24:43.640 --> 1:24:46.519 first three weeks, I just got on because it was 1:24:46.560 --> 1:24:48.479 therapeutic and I knew it was here in the world, 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:50.360 and I was just like I just wanted to do more, 1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:54.120 you know. But I never sacrificed my integrity. And that's 1:24:54.160 --> 1:24:57.320 the beauty of like this whole thing is I feel 1:24:57.360 --> 1:25:01.639 like the music shifting now, like we should be able 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:03.400 to play these records in the club. I know I'm 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:06.320 going to because there's nothing you're not gonna tell. If 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:08.519 you're hiring me, you're hiring me for me, like period, 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:11.000 you know what I mean. You hired Stevoky for what 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:13.680 he does, you hire Mustle for what he does. You're 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:15.720 hiring me because this is what I do, and they no, 1:25:15.920 --> 1:25:17.880 that's in my writer now, Like I won't even approve 1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:21.640 anything that I've been doing them like Nab not doing that. 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:26.000 I'm not shouting this out if you want me. If 1:25:26.000 --> 1:25:27.880 somebody getting a quest the e f N he just 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:32.360 like listen, this is this is my opinion, the best 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:37.280 open format DJs or hip hop DJ's, because then it's 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:40.559 not open format anymore. It becomes hip hop. Like even 1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:43.120 when they're not playing hip hop. How annoying, How annoying 1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:45.559 that that would be the nice you you at pop 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:48.160 party or somebody. And I'm like, one time, I think 1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:51.240 Papa's Madden to one of his parties. I think last 1:25:51.280 --> 1:25:53.800 New Year's or something or something like you know, like 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:58.439 like people like if anybody ever like like trying to 1:25:58.479 --> 1:26:00.240 give you a question and you just like, is not 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:02.160 the move to the party and you know where it's going. 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:05.280 Oh you know what, Puff wasn't mad Puff. He wanted 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:11.720 me to play like like some demos, like like new tracks. Yeah, 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:13.880 like you know, you know, you know, like you know 1:26:13.960 --> 1:26:15.960 from his kids, you know what I'm saying, like, Oh, yeah, 1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:18.040 that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah yeah, 1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:22.120 And I'm just like, you know, I can't do it, upset, No, 1:26:23.040 --> 1:26:28.960 that's it. No, I just wanted to finish my set. 1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:33.840 But you know I was like, yeah, I didn't they 1:26:33.960 --> 1:26:37.080 be To be honest, I didn't have the music, you 1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:38.680 know what I mean, And I don't I don't let 1:26:38.720 --> 1:26:41.200 anybody put their drives on my computer. Like I don't 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:42.880 know what I'm saying, like, I don't. I just don't 1:26:42.880 --> 1:26:44.559 do that. I don't even start it like that. And 1:26:44.560 --> 1:26:47.320 there's no disrespect to Puff for anybody, because I love Puff, 1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:51.160 my guy. But you know, actually he never even came 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:53.120 over to me. It was more like his people like yo, 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:58.640 Puff needs you to Nobody took it up anything. This 1:26:58.680 --> 1:27:02.880 beautiful house in my m me doesn't belong to me, 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:05.400 but this does what I'm trying to get this house 1:27:05.439 --> 1:27:08.160 with this just never you know what I'm saying, like, 1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:10.599 but Puff usually hears about it, you know, man, Puff 1:27:10.720 --> 1:27:12.880 ups when I played the classic ship Man, you know, 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:15.200 like so and Puff has actually been one of my 1:27:15.680 --> 1:27:18.360 he's at you know that night that that Saturday night 1:27:18.360 --> 1:27:21.040 when that ship went crazy two o'clock in the morning. 1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:23.320 The call came from Puff and he didn't ask for anything. 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:26.320 He didn't say, you don't want to manage you. He said, Yo, 1:27:26.680 --> 1:27:28.800 I just want you to just take a break and 1:27:28.840 --> 1:27:31.880 take all of this in you change the world. You 1:27:31.920 --> 1:27:34.240 did you didn't, Yeah, man, That's what I was trying 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:36.200 to tell you earlier with That's how we all felt 1:27:36.200 --> 1:27:40.120 for you. Did he Um. I still didn't listen to him, though, 1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:44.200 I'm still going, yeah, but you know what you should? 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:47.479 You should because you know why. It's like I'm like 1:27:47.520 --> 1:27:50.280 I said, man, like, um. You know, I'm forty two 1:27:50.360 --> 1:27:52.920 years old, you know what I mean, um um, And 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:55.040 I like to think that I've been around the world 1:27:55.280 --> 1:27:57.280 and not Yeah, yeah, I like to think that, you 1:27:57.280 --> 1:27:59.960 know what I'm saying. But I got so much other accolades, 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:02.120 There so much other things to do. And that's like 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:04.600 I said, like I said, like music coming together and 1:28:04.640 --> 1:28:07.360 bringing everything together. That's one of the like the top moments, 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:09.960 if not the moment in my life where I see 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:13.200 if everyone really like I made a record back in 1:28:13.240 --> 1:28:16.040 the days called music make these thugs calm down, and 1:28:16.080 --> 1:28:17.920 it meant nothing. I mean I did it with Nois. 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:20.080 I see you gotta interview with nis on on on 1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:23.160 on the live as well, but that meant nothing to 1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:26.360 to this night. Is you really made the world just 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:30.760 come together, just you know, and celebration, and I can 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:33.639 I swear to god. I was getting texas of people 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:35.960 really saying, you know you're going You're going to club 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:39.120 Quarantine tonight, and I really we were leaving like I 1:28:39.200 --> 1:28:42.160 was like, all right, cool, weading room in my house 1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:44.000 to the other room in my house, and I even 1:28:44.080 --> 1:28:46.800 had my balcony set up. We had lights out there 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:48.439 and it was just me and my wife and we 1:28:48.560 --> 1:28:51.519 just parted away. By the way, I told you DJ 1:28:51.640 --> 1:28:53.360 and my wedding, even though I didn't hit you, I 1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:54.960 didn't text you, but in my mind, you DJ and 1:28:55.040 --> 1:28:57.519 my wedding. Yeah, it's just happening. We're gonna make it. 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:04.120 I mean that. I mean that, like no, no but 1:29:04.160 --> 1:29:06.960 it couldn't have Hold on, I cheered without sipping. That 1:29:07.040 --> 1:29:10.599 doesn't Yeah, yeah, I need to put some more. We 1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:12.960 we got it. Hold up, hold on, hold on, hold 1:29:13.000 --> 1:29:22.560 up that Kanya shout out to nas in the moment. There, baby, 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:26.200 we gotta tell d d Nice how he how? Actually 1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:29.320 he's a part of the dream Champ's history and no, no, 1:29:29.520 --> 1:29:31.800 you can refute this. Maybe maybe I don't know. This 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:34.360 is my my opinion of the history. I did my 1:29:34.479 --> 1:29:36.559 name ism name hold no, hold up, man, you're ruining 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:41.559 my story. Bro. So so Nori moves down to Miami. 1:29:41.880 --> 1:29:45.800 He's working out out of my studio, Crazier Productions, and 1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:48.120 he's like, Yo, let's just do some like hip hop ship. 1:29:48.200 --> 1:29:53.160 Let's just get he's coming off of the stuff. And 1:29:53.200 --> 1:29:57.679 then the both him and I, it's like we we 1:29:57.680 --> 1:30:00.519 we both had the same favorite record. My name is 1:30:00.560 --> 1:30:08.960 the Nice. Yeah, yeah, we both had the same favorite record. Like, Yo, 1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:12.000 let's let's sample this and let's create another record out 1:30:12.000 --> 1:30:13.760 of this. This is one of my favorite hicals, was 1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:16.519 one of my favorite records too. Let's I'm gonna play 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:20.400 that record tonight. My name is that No, So let 1:30:20.400 --> 1:30:25.120 me tell you that studio came after. That is the 1:30:25.200 --> 1:30:27.840 prelude to like that's where dream Chance was born out 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:32.320 of Studio studio and that's yeah yeah, those studio sessions. Yeah, 1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:36.240 so you have a piece of drink. Yeah yeah, please 1:30:36.240 --> 1:30:42.280 don't claim it. But how is that, like, you know, 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:45.280 bud wise, I see bud Wise of calling, I see 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:49.160 you actually flew out here for social distance party drive 1:30:49.200 --> 1:30:55.200 by joint, yeah, the drive by drain that how how 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:57.880 how is that? Like you know, um, just people just 1:30:58.000 --> 1:31:01.080 embracing and and the best thing about it is you're 1:31:01.120 --> 1:31:03.640 being you. It's not like you're being somebody else and 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:06.719 get in love for being somebody else again, that's exactly 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:08.599 who you are. So that's been like the best that's 1:31:08.600 --> 1:31:10.280 been one of the best feelings. Man. Is that Like 1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:13.800 I said, man, I've been authentic to myself bro, and 1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:17.280 like seeing all of these things happen, and uh, for one, 1:31:17.320 --> 1:31:19.559 it wasn't really about the accolades because obviously, you know, 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:22.920 I've been I've worked with Hennessey for years, I've worked 1:31:22.920 --> 1:31:25.120 with but you know, like I've worked with always fine, um, 1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:28.760 but this was something different, you know, like this was 1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:32.160 like people really came through for me. And so if 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:34.919 I ever had a question about like my own legacy. 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:38.640 That ship was answered two months to immediately, you know 1:31:38.680 --> 1:31:40.720 what I mean, like if I if I ever questioned it, 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:43.479 like y'all, I don't know where I am. You know, No, 1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:46.240 it was the answers came two months ago where I 1:31:46.280 --> 1:31:48.719 was like, I felt the love and the answer comes. 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:52.120 Every single night, I'm going to Lives and I see 1:31:52.400 --> 1:31:54.800 it will be like hot DJ with five hundred people 1:31:54.800 --> 1:31:58.200 in there. Another DJ was six seven hundred. I never 1:31:58.240 --> 1:32:02.040 see DJs with like more than like two thousand people. 1:32:02.560 --> 1:32:05.759 But I'll go on and it will be fifteen thou thousand, 1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:10.799 twenty five. Don't let it be like the versus night everybody, 1:32:10.880 --> 1:32:13.639 if you really knows to go to my joint. But 1:32:13.680 --> 1:32:18.479 the but the first rightly man, like yep, the Ingage, 1:32:19.240 --> 1:32:23.240 the boost Joint. Yeah, I mean being gone to Killer 1:32:23.560 --> 1:32:26.600 that was it was crazy. Then as soon as I 1:32:26.680 --> 1:32:29.679 as soon as I loved on, it was like ten seconds, 1:32:30.560 --> 1:32:33.000 fifteen thousand people in there. I was like, Jesus Christ, 1:32:33.080 --> 1:32:36.080 this is crazy, but I love it because that means 1:32:36.080 --> 1:32:37.960 people trust me. Man, you know what I mean. Like 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:42.600 he was starting, you went, you went so pause, you 1:32:42.680 --> 1:32:46.200 went like six seven hours right, And I remember just 1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:48.840 looking at the comments and people were like, you can 1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:53.080 we send you Uba eats because you don't wanted to 1:32:53.200 --> 1:32:56.000 feat you. You know, people people were like, yo can 1:32:57.479 --> 1:33:00.960 something like you was just you know, did not stop, 1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:03.479 and then you went off for a second, like you 1:33:03.479 --> 1:33:05.880 went off. You didn't say nothing, and then we didn't 1:33:05.880 --> 1:33:07.760 know what it was happening. I'm not sure if this 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:09.880 was the first hat change and you came back with 1:33:09.920 --> 1:33:12.920 a hat change and he was like, oh, we was 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:14.920 all hoping, yo, he must say he must eat a 1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:20.479 grilled cheese, so you know I need a lot. We 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:23.160 would like, yo, come on, man, he gotta be yo. 1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:27.559 I always eat, So I just don't. I don't talk 1:33:27.600 --> 1:33:30.400 about it because it should be seeming kind of flussy. 1:33:31.240 --> 1:33:34.160 But I a chef, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:33:36.880 --> 1:33:38.360 you know what I mean. So every time I would 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:39.960 like I would, I would do this. I didn't do 1:33:39.960 --> 1:33:42.599 the ship right now, like I still eat while I'm teaching. 1:33:42.720 --> 1:33:45.360 But I'm then and be like, oh this is ship. 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:52.240 Just slid slip to the private chef back. I'm coming 1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:57.120 back with yo, know what I'm saying, Like, so I eat, 1:33:57.160 --> 1:33:58.840 I was just like nibble on the ship while I 1:33:58.880 --> 1:34:01.400 was teaching, or if I'm eating, Like last night, I 1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:03.000 was eating while I was DJing, but I kept my 1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:05.920 back turn pretending to pour more wine as I was 1:34:06.000 --> 1:34:08.760 chewing my food, just you know, to keep the energy going, 1:34:09.120 --> 1:34:10.720 you know what I mean, Like, oh, you don't want 1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:13.799 to that's a that's actually funny shot. Though I started 1:34:13.800 --> 1:34:16.839 that way because there was a Chicken company. No disrespect 1:34:16.880 --> 1:34:18.680 to the Chicken company, I'll leave the name out. That 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:21.759 week was trying to get me to show some chicken 1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:26.719 on the screen, and I'm like, both chicken. They wanted 1:34:26.720 --> 1:34:30.519 to be both chicken, yo, because you know, people couldn't 1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:33.280 figure out the market this ship, so that I was like, 1:34:33.280 --> 1:34:38.080 oh nice chicken, yo. Back that's what you know. You 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:40.240 blew up, bro, you know you blew up when they 1:34:40.240 --> 1:34:43.800 want you to promote chicken. Then this was before that night, 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:45.880 but the bag, the bag was looking nice. But I 1:34:45.920 --> 1:34:48.759 was like, yo, black yo, I can't be eating chicken 1:34:48.800 --> 1:34:53.160 on instagramming. But all these people I'm like, I'm good man, 1:34:53.200 --> 1:34:55.599 I'm good. You understanding, But like that's why I love 1:34:55.640 --> 1:34:59.439 where I am. Man. I never I swear to you yo, yo, 1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:02.599 you know I never sacrificed my intech reaty, bro, That's 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:05.160 the that's the part about this ship is that I 1:35:05.200 --> 1:35:07.200 did not straight away from being who I am, man, 1:35:07.280 --> 1:35:11.719 because that's the best lesson ample. That's the best example 1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:14.840 that you've given everybody. That's the best gift you've given 1:35:14.880 --> 1:35:17.040 all of us. That's a gift, man, is that I 1:35:17.080 --> 1:35:20.920 did not sacrifice my integrity at all. I didn't accept 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:24.160 any money. Those deals were coming that Monday, trust me, 1:35:24.479 --> 1:35:28.080 millions and deals that Monday. They were all coming at me. 1:35:28.560 --> 1:35:30.479 And like my friends thought I was crazy. I was like, yo, 1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:33.040 I don't even want to talk about this because why 1:35:33.120 --> 1:35:36.040 I did it was for people. It was self serving. 1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:37.880 The very first day it was about me. I just 1:35:37.920 --> 1:35:39.960 wanted to play music. But then I was addicted to 1:35:40.080 --> 1:35:42.639 because I was reading the comments and people are like, Yo, 1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:46.080 this feels like a club. Like just imagine one of 1:35:46.080 --> 1:35:48.479 my friends is you know, you guys all know him, 1:35:48.600 --> 1:35:52.160 um Will Packer the movie producer, right, so Will that 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.400 Thursday will call me. He was like, Yo, everybody keep 1:35:55.439 --> 1:35:58.000 calling me about your club, Like I think I'm a 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:02.320 popping your club tonight. Another still is like a real thing, 1:36:02.400 --> 1:36:04.800 like people really want to be in there, and that's ship. 1:36:05.120 --> 1:36:08.519 It's just like the fact that people gravitate towards people 1:36:08.560 --> 1:36:11.160 like us. You know, I've been waiting to do this, 1:36:11.240 --> 1:36:12.479 you know what I'm saying, Like I've been waiting to 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:15.519 just talk and you're not doing it yet. Remember this 1:36:15.600 --> 1:36:18.479 is not a replacement for the Live Drink Champs, you know, 1:36:19.240 --> 1:36:21.360 but we couldn't wait no longer. We have the big more. 1:36:21.720 --> 1:36:24.439 Our show was about bigg en up people who you know, 1:36:24.680 --> 1:36:26.920 you know, d nice. When you got ten years in 1:36:26.960 --> 1:36:29.160 this game, they want to say you washed up and 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:31.559 they want to say that. Me and e FM, we 1:36:31.560 --> 1:36:34.080 we we thought that that was wrong for everybody in 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:36.240 our culture. We thought that if for ten years in 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:38.519 this game, you are season and we should be bigging 1:36:38.520 --> 1:36:41.280 you up, and that goes for everybody. That's why we 1:36:41.680 --> 1:36:44.320 talked about the Hip Hop Union, like we talked about 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:46.080 all this. We did this four years ago. We we 1:36:46.720 --> 1:36:49.160 we realized there's nobody in our culture that's big enough 1:36:49.200 --> 1:36:51.200 our culture. That's what me and my part of the 1:36:51.240 --> 1:36:53.479 e FN got together that did it, and we've been 1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:56.040 successful at it. And you have been top on the list. 1:36:56.720 --> 1:36:59.080 You have one. You're not only one of my favorite graps, 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:00.640 you have one of my favorite longs and now that 1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:05.559 you would do another one of my favorite songs, instruction God. 1:37:06.160 --> 1:37:08.680 But but but I know I'm bouncing around a little bit. 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:10.880 Do you think that's something that we need right now? 1:37:10.920 --> 1:37:13.720 Like you know, um, we are the World and self 1:37:13.760 --> 1:37:17.160 destruction was or we are the World. To me, that 1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:20.160 was modern day self destruction. Like like like if if 1:37:20.160 --> 1:37:22.120 I had to choose between we Are the World and 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:24.920 self destruction, self destruction more than me, you know what 1:37:24.960 --> 1:37:28.200 I'm saying, because I couldn't identify with everybody or We 1:37:28.240 --> 1:37:30.599 are the World, No disrespect to that, but I knew 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:33.439 who Step the Sonic was, I knew who care Arrest 1:37:33.600 --> 1:37:35.400 was and so on and so forth. I didn't know 1:37:35.479 --> 1:37:38.760 everybody We are the World. It's self destruction something that 1:37:38.800 --> 1:37:41.760 we need nowadays. I mean the record the actually and 1:37:41.840 --> 1:37:44.040 they tried to do them over and over like a 1:37:44.120 --> 1:37:47.559 couple of times, but it just hasn't had the same effect. Yeah, 1:37:47.640 --> 1:37:49.400 Like I don't want to be involved because it's usually 1:37:49.400 --> 1:37:51.800 always the same dudes trying to do it, like you know, 1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:53.960 the guys that didn't the original, like now we want 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:56.840 to come back and now we need me goos and 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:59.800 little yeah, we need we needed to be modernized, like 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:03.599 need you don't need it. From my generation, it's just 1:38:04.040 --> 1:38:06.560 funking down on people, you know what I mean, Like 1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:09.720 like when we first came out, Mellie mel hated us, 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:11.840 like he didn't he didn't write with us at all, 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:14.479 with who with bet per self destruction as a trade, 1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:18.639 Like Mellie mel hated us. That's like the first verse 1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:22.519 of poetry, care us from poetry that that was actually 1:38:22.560 --> 1:38:26.040 around he wrote, like like he did that on stage 1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:28.280 in front of Mellie Melo, Like you know, that's crucial 1:38:28.400 --> 1:38:32.040 that you're saying this crucial because that means sho it 1:38:32.080 --> 1:38:36.400 ain't changed because a lot of the elder statements seemed 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:38.599 to be a little bit mad at people who made 1:38:38.600 --> 1:38:42.599 more money than them. Accurate. That is accurate. Okay, continue, 1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:44.880 that's accurate, you know, Like I mean I see that 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:48.040 now with with a lot of DJs from Like I mean, 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:51.160 one of my favorite DJs hit me up, send me 1:38:51.160 --> 1:38:53.280 a text last night, like you know, when did you 1:38:53.320 --> 1:38:56.160 start playing slow songs on the Sunday night? Oh you 1:38:56.240 --> 1:39:00.760 know you know or you know, like people always do 1:39:00.880 --> 1:39:02.920 things like that, you know what I'm saying, Like when 1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:05.400 did you start doing this or like when did you start? 1:39:05.880 --> 1:39:08.200 I'm like, yo, bro, it's just music, you know, like 1:39:08.720 --> 1:39:11.800 what we do, this is what we all do. I'm 1:39:11.800 --> 1:39:14.800 not I'm never limited myself to anything, you know, but like, yeah, 1:39:15.040 --> 1:39:18.040 a lot of times, you know, our generation is like 1:39:19.680 --> 1:39:21.800 we all we don't really show each other the same 1:39:21.840 --> 1:39:24.960 amount of love that we should, you know. Like that's 1:39:24.960 --> 1:39:27.559 why when I see Bunby in there, if I see Nori, 1:39:27.720 --> 1:39:30.320 I you know, when I see Nori, When I see 1:39:30.320 --> 1:39:34.080 Nori's name popping there, this means so much to me 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:38.200 because because of the violator days, you know what I mean. 1:39:38.200 --> 1:39:43.280 And it's like here, brother, yeah, it's like I can't 1:39:43.320 --> 1:39:48.280 think about my life and music without thinking of Chris Lighty. 1:39:48.600 --> 1:39:51.880 That's true. This is real ship to me because that 1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:54.920 man told me that, yo, you're better than just you're 1:39:54.920 --> 1:39:57.760 better than what you used to do. No disrespect to 1:39:57.800 --> 1:40:00.240 what you used to do, but you can figure this out. 1:40:00.920 --> 1:40:05.519 So me doing multiple things actually happened because he challenged me. 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:09.519 It wasn't because I saw myself doing these things. It 1:40:09.640 --> 1:40:12.200 was because that man challenged me, you know what I mean. 1:40:12.439 --> 1:40:14.640 Like there was a day in the studio when I 1:40:14.640 --> 1:40:17.679 was building the Violet to site that. Yo, I followed 1:40:17.680 --> 1:40:21.920 you around. You got a whole through in the studio, dude. 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:24.960 You know what I'm saying. I was in the studio 1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:27.400 and d N I showed up one time. I tuck down. 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.639 You were there? Yeah, I was there. I was there 1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:36.840 and I was like, wait, this is d Nice And 1:40:36.880 --> 1:40:40.320 I was there to take pictures. Though, That's what I'm saying, Yo, 1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:43.600 I was kind of sucked up by it. Though originally 1:40:43.960 --> 1:40:46.240 I was like, holy ship, d Nice is a photographer 1:40:46.360 --> 1:40:48.879 right now, Yeah, I have to adjust. I have to adjust, 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:51.800 you know why you thought you thought that? But but 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.879 when I looked at DNA, d Knights is always defend. 1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:58.400 He's always like fly, you know what I'm saying. So 1:40:58.479 --> 1:41:01.160 you know, you know he's a different guy, like he's 1:41:01.160 --> 1:41:03.439 a he's a smooth But I think what I think 1:41:03.560 --> 1:41:07.320 is doub about about that point is that you already 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:10.800 ahead of the curve. D like, like you understood that 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:13.880 to survive. The thing is, we all look at the 1:41:13.920 --> 1:41:17.240 one percent of entertainers that make a living off of 1:41:17.280 --> 1:41:20.320 what they do, the one thing they do, and they 1:41:20.360 --> 1:41:25.160 make millions of dollars. Most entertainer entertainers and hip hop 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:28.400 artists or anybody that whatever, any of us that are creators, 1:41:28.840 --> 1:41:31.640 that is not the reality for all of us. We 1:41:31.760 --> 1:41:34.040 have to have different lanes. We have to be able 1:41:34.080 --> 1:41:37.360 to to do different things, to do the one thing 1:41:37.400 --> 1:41:41.439 we love. And you know, I was young with at 1:41:41.479 --> 1:41:42.880 that time. When I was in the studio and I 1:41:42.880 --> 1:41:45.600 saw you, I was like, oh ship dean heys of 1:41:46.200 --> 1:41:48.519 But I get it now like I got it a 1:41:48.560 --> 1:41:51.080 little bit after that because I started doing the same thing. 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:54.400 Listen your d D. When I started doing reggae throng, 1:41:54.880 --> 1:41:57.040 the offen didn't even speak to me. I don't know. 1:41:57.120 --> 1:42:04.400 I still don't speak to you all. Fact, Joe, when 1:42:04.439 --> 1:42:07.519 I did, I did, and I ain't no disrespect that 1:42:07.520 --> 1:42:14.200 I get done respect to you that, Joe. You are 1:42:14.240 --> 1:42:17.920 my closest friends. Nice to all my closest friends. They said, 1:42:18.080 --> 1:42:21.240 what are you doing? I said, reggae thrown. They said 1:42:21.600 --> 1:42:23.719 click click. I don't know why. In my mind, both 1:42:23.720 --> 1:42:31.439 of their numbers magically changed right there. So so so 1:42:31.640 --> 1:42:34.680 trust me, like like when you're transition, sometimes people just 1:42:34.720 --> 1:42:38.080 don't understand you know what I'm saying. They didn't, But 1:42:38.160 --> 1:42:40.200 you gotta let the only thing that would stop you 1:42:40.280 --> 1:42:42.840 is your ego. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's 1:42:42.920 --> 1:42:45.439 just your ego that would stop you from like doing 1:42:45.479 --> 1:42:48.320 that ship to be able to like pivot. So I 1:42:48.720 --> 1:42:50.240 you know, it was part of it that felt a 1:42:50.280 --> 1:42:53.599 little uncomfortable, But the part that made me feel comfortable 1:42:53.640 --> 1:42:56.160 was that, wait a minute, I worked for myself. I'm 1:42:56.200 --> 1:43:00.000 only here to the Nori because I want to populate 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:03.080 the violet to site with content. That's the only reason 1:43:03.080 --> 1:43:04.760 why I went. I was it was I was doing 1:43:04.800 --> 1:43:06.760 in the varley to say so I wanted to have, 1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:08.960 like I wanted to be able to what we do 1:43:09.000 --> 1:43:11.519 on Instagram was what I was trying to do with violence, 1:43:12.040 --> 1:43:14.559 you know, to just be like put up new images 1:43:14.640 --> 1:43:16.800 and like sell stories like oh this person was doing this, 1:43:17.240 --> 1:43:19.680 you know. Like so it didn't matter to me, like 1:43:19.840 --> 1:43:21.880 go and walk around with my camera ship. My camera's 1:43:21.920 --> 1:43:31.080 excessive this you know where Where's where's James Flix? Fix? 1:43:33.960 --> 1:43:36.320 You got my homemade dream Flix. He's one of my producers. 1:43:36.600 --> 1:43:39.160 He was an NC and now he's a photographer for Dad. 1:43:39.880 --> 1:43:41.759 I was there that night when you had the camera. 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:47.439 Who you are? I know you you made me a drink. 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:53.680 That's my brother, right brother? You know it was photographer. 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:56.920 To which camera do you have with you? I got 1:43:56.920 --> 1:44:00.400 the sony, so what I'm doing, But I just gotta 1:44:00.560 --> 1:44:05.400 gotta fool you want to thank you for speaking Chinese? 1:44:05.960 --> 1:44:08.200 I got I got the this is the like monochrome, 1:44:08.280 --> 1:44:11.040 the new one, the monochroone. Check it out. I got 1:44:11.040 --> 1:44:20.800 the iPhone. I got the phone. No, man's that's about though. Man, 1:44:20.800 --> 1:44:22.439 I'm happy to be in with you. Guys though, bro, 1:44:22.479 --> 1:44:24.519 I've been waiting for this. And how about how about 1:44:24.720 --> 1:44:26.800 your relationship with Cavras. I know we spoke on it 1:44:26.840 --> 1:44:30.320 a little bit lightly earlier. Now we're we're good. We 1:44:30.360 --> 1:44:32.360 don't really see each other that often though, you know, 1:44:32.479 --> 1:44:35.360 like his Chris never really had a cell phone, like, 1:44:35.400 --> 1:44:37.240 he doesn't do a cell phone things. So I'm not 1:44:37.280 --> 1:44:39.280 gonna lie. I wanted to talk to you about that. 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:44.880 Um stop. He still gets on the boat and ship 1:44:44.960 --> 1:44:48.040 like that. Last time I've seen you. You saw what 1:44:48.120 --> 1:44:52.479 happened when he did drink Champs. Everybody knows this or no, 1:44:52.479 --> 1:44:55.640 nobody knows this story. He did drink Champs. There was 1:44:55.640 --> 1:44:58.720 a controversy that happened when he did drink Champs. You 1:44:58.760 --> 1:45:01.720 gotta explain the boat. He in the boat along boat, right, 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:05.439 So he didn't see the controversy, didn't He couldn't react 1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:08.120 to it until like a week later because of the 1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:10.560 boat riding. Two weeks later. Two weeks later, it was 1:45:10.600 --> 1:45:16.960 like three weeks later. Yeah, yeah, man, Yeah, he's like, um, 1:45:17.000 --> 1:45:19.120 I think somebody got to tell him, like, planes are 1:45:19.160 --> 1:45:22.360 safer than they used to be. They used to be. 1:45:25.320 --> 1:45:28.800 Joe didn't used to take planes either, though, Yeah Joe. Yeah, 1:45:28.840 --> 1:45:31.080 Joe would not get on a plane. Joe was on 1:45:31.360 --> 1:45:35.160 He's lefting right now, He's left it right on the planes. Like, yeah, 1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:38.040 I'm good, bro, not but caress I'm you know, look 1:45:38.200 --> 1:45:40.400 I said early. I hope he's proud of like what happened, man, 1:45:40.479 --> 1:45:43.320 Like I am a product of BDP, you know what 1:45:43.400 --> 1:45:47.280 I mean, You're yeah, you're they're prodigy for sure. What happened, 1:45:47.920 --> 1:45:50.000 This happened for my crew, you know, like this is 1:45:50.000 --> 1:45:51.760 some dope ship when you really look back at the 1:45:51.800 --> 1:45:55.160 history of it. I spotted with them. It started there 1:45:55.800 --> 1:45:59.200 and that same dude, that same dude that started with 1:45:59.280 --> 1:46:01.560 them ended up playing in the White House, you know 1:46:01.600 --> 1:46:04.679 what I mean, Like like this it's just a dope story, man, 1:46:05.080 --> 1:46:06.800 It's a dope story. Yeah, I can't wait to like 1:46:07.000 --> 1:46:09.280 properly tell my story one day, you know, like because 1:46:09.520 --> 1:46:11.920 people should know the ups and downs, like that's where 1:46:11.920 --> 1:46:14.760 the inspiration comes from. The inspiration comes from from like 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:16.880 never giving up and always believe in yourself. Not not 1:46:16.960 --> 1:46:20.200 to sound appreciate it, but that's really a story right there. 1:46:20.320 --> 1:46:23.000 That's the story, you know, is that already in the 1:46:23.479 --> 1:46:27.240 already thinking that like the book and like the documentary. 1:46:27.280 --> 1:46:29.920 It sounds like it already. So I've already had book 1:46:29.960 --> 1:46:34.559 deal offers, but this was before COVID. I never took 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:36.600 the deals because I didn't feel like my story was 1:46:36.640 --> 1:46:40.280 there yet. This is what I'm saying, Like knowing yourself, bro, 1:46:40.400 --> 1:46:42.880 I just felt like, not, okay, yeah, I'm gonna do 1:46:42.920 --> 1:46:45.960 it from the Bronx and you know, you know, I 1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:48.880 made a lot of records and sell records, and you know, 1:46:48.920 --> 1:46:50.760 I lost everything, and then I came back to the 1:46:50.760 --> 1:46:53.479 web developer and photographer and the DJ and then our 1:46:53.560 --> 1:46:55.320 DJ and the White House and all of this ship. 1:46:55.920 --> 1:46:58.320 I still didn't feel like the story was there because 1:46:58.320 --> 1:47:00.559 it wasn't. Those weren't my things. The only thing that 1:47:00.600 --> 1:47:03.040 was mine with my records other than that, I was 1:47:03.080 --> 1:47:06.519 building ship for other people. It wasn't until this hit 1:47:06.600 --> 1:47:10.360 where it was like, my story is here now because 1:47:10.360 --> 1:47:14.160 what I didn't fucking like really did contribute to inspiring 1:47:14.240 --> 1:47:17.920 the world. So like now I feel now my story 1:47:18.000 --> 1:47:19.800 is there, Like now I'm excited to tell a story. 1:47:19.920 --> 1:47:23.719 Like And what's what's ill about the I G stuff 1:47:23.760 --> 1:47:29.760 is that itself produced. True, Like nobody produced it for you. No, 1:47:29.760 --> 1:47:33.920 no club promoter promoted it. It's just self produced. And 1:47:33.920 --> 1:47:36.040 that's what's so dope about it. I didn't even think 1:47:36.040 --> 1:47:38.640 about it from that perspective. But you're right, Yeah, you 1:47:39.040 --> 1:47:41.040 got your daughted a product of credit, right, because I 1:47:41.080 --> 1:47:42.880 think she was the one telling you who was doing it. 1:47:43.160 --> 1:47:46.120 My daughter. I know my daughter was. She was because 1:47:46.120 --> 1:47:48.360 I you know, I don't know why I wasn't. What 1:47:48.560 --> 1:47:51.599 didn't think of this? You know, early on I used 1:47:51.600 --> 1:47:54.280 to I would stream from my iPhone. So if you 1:47:54.360 --> 1:47:58.799 have your phone, you know I'm forty nine. So clearly, clearly, 1:47:58.800 --> 1:48:00.960 my my vision is in the you know what I mean, 1:48:01.000 --> 1:48:06.559 Like I'm blind, don't worry turning forty five on Thursday. Yeah, 1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:11.719 I couldn't you turn out? Yeah I couldn't see the comments. 1:48:11.760 --> 1:48:13.400 You know what I'm saying like I couldn't see anything. 1:48:13.439 --> 1:48:17.160 So my daughter with text me to my iPad, like dad, 1:48:17.600 --> 1:48:21.519 so nor reason there and this is in there. Like 1:48:21.600 --> 1:48:23.000 she was just telling me all of the people. And 1:48:23.000 --> 1:48:24.920 then I had to tell I was like, babe, tell 1:48:24.960 --> 1:48:27.280 me some regular names too, like because I wanted to 1:48:28.040 --> 1:48:32.080 feel good. So you want here Tom and John. Yeah, 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:34.400 she did shoot me over names like but like now 1:48:34.520 --> 1:48:36.960 like yeah, yeah, like my ship is all I used. 1:48:37.040 --> 1:48:39.680 I use the iPad, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:48:39.840 --> 1:48:41.920 you got like movie lights in that motherfucker, like old 1:48:41.920 --> 1:48:46.519 school movie lights. That's my ceiling. That's my ceiling. Oh 1:48:46.840 --> 1:48:51.240 you got to lie from Casa Blanca. You know that 1:48:51.280 --> 1:48:57.800 ship was more decorative. That's decorative. Baby. You know when 1:48:57.800 --> 1:48:59.280 you get a little bit of money, you do you 1:48:59.320 --> 1:49:08.400 buy dumps. It's not even functional. Oh man, no, this 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:11.760 is fun. Man. I appreciate you guys. Bro Man, we 1:49:11.840 --> 1:49:15.160 appreciate you. Bro. I can't even I appreciate you. Bro. No, 1:49:15.439 --> 1:49:18.519 man really really really bottomed from my heart man, like 1:49:18.800 --> 1:49:22.960 it couldn't have happened to any better person. Absolutely, um, 1:49:23.000 --> 1:49:27.000 you are absolutely, hands down one of the most genuine 1:49:27.800 --> 1:49:31.280 humble you. You taught me so much because I watched 1:49:31.320 --> 1:49:34.400 you transition from a position from a career to a 1:49:34.439 --> 1:49:37.960 career and to a to a different thing. Maintain exactly 1:49:37.960 --> 1:49:41.400 who you are, maintain the integrity, and I admire that, 1:49:41.439 --> 1:49:42.920 and I look up to that, you know what I mean. 1:49:43.000 --> 1:49:45.240 That's why I seen me. I've seen you and um 1:49:45.479 --> 1:49:48.439 shot and uh what was it? Noble? No, but that's 1:49:48.800 --> 1:49:50.800 by the way, that's one of my favorite restaurants in 1:49:50.840 --> 1:49:55.720 the whold planet. Uh, Noble. And I see y'all there 1:49:55.760 --> 1:49:57.760 and I was like, man, I want you on drink. 1:49:57.840 --> 1:50:02.400 Chance was like and he was kicking it. But you know, um, 1:50:02.400 --> 1:50:05.160 getting back to the mad at hand. When I've seen 1:50:05.240 --> 1:50:08.240 the explosion and I've seen everything that happened, I couldn't 1:50:09.120 --> 1:50:11.799 everyone from ear Finns for everyone. We were just texting 1:50:11.840 --> 1:50:14.200 each other and just was just so happy, just happy man. 1:50:14.800 --> 1:50:19.880 And I'm I'm old enough from forty two. Um, I'm 1:50:19.880 --> 1:50:22.200 old enough to remember when it was Eric b and 1:50:22.280 --> 1:50:24.559 Rock Kim. I'm old enough to remember with the DJ 1:50:25.000 --> 1:50:28.760 actually came before the artist and it was because of 1:50:28.840 --> 1:50:32.080 that very moment. It reminded reminded me of that. You 1:50:32.120 --> 1:50:35.120 know what artists can go up go up for. You 1:50:35.160 --> 1:50:38.679 know about half an hour, you know, forty five minutes 1:50:38.840 --> 1:50:41.160 and just rock their own records. After that, we gotta 1:50:41.200 --> 1:50:45.000 say goodbye. You was out there six seven hours, not no, no, 1:50:45.280 --> 1:50:50.519 nine dude, half a day. I was not. I was 1:50:50.640 --> 1:50:54.680 just playing music. I'm like, Yo, this is Jesus Christmas. 1:50:55.320 --> 1:50:58.360 You know we don't play nine hours. Man, No, that's 1:50:58.360 --> 1:51:00.920 not the normal. I said, you got the hunchback. Yeah, 1:51:01.080 --> 1:51:03.479 I got my hunchback from DJ and the club back 1:51:03.520 --> 1:51:06.360 in the days. Yeah. I'm over here struggling right now. 1:51:06.400 --> 1:51:09.120 I'm like the entire time we're talking, I got my 1:51:09.160 --> 1:51:14.439 eye on this joint right here. Put this on. Well, 1:51:14.479 --> 1:51:19.840 I got one of those two. Yeah, that's that's a 1:51:19.880 --> 1:51:26.720 massager joint. Looking at you at the crab, I'm like this, 1:51:26.960 --> 1:51:34.040 I'm like, yeah, let me tell you what's dope. What's 1:51:34.080 --> 1:51:37.080 dope about everything you've done and all everything that's come 1:51:37.120 --> 1:51:39.240 with it is that you didn't keep it to yourself. 1:51:39.600 --> 1:51:44.760 You put on you put on the ladies, yet you 1:51:44.800 --> 1:51:47.640 put on your your crew, the originals, the originals. I 1:51:47.720 --> 1:51:51.800 respected that stretch on strong likes so dope, man um, 1:51:52.560 --> 1:52:00.360 can't Tony touch I'm strong the thing, you know, like, man, 1:52:00.720 --> 1:52:04.080 I never I just wanted to be that person that 1:52:04.120 --> 1:52:06.320 I wish someone else was for me back in the 1:52:06.400 --> 1:52:08.559 day and not have to say that they weren't. Because 1:52:08.640 --> 1:52:12.200 Caress and Scott like you know, guys took a kid 1:52:12.240 --> 1:52:14.320 that really didn't know anything about music and gave me 1:52:14.360 --> 1:52:16.840 a career, gave me a life, you know. Like so 1:52:16.840 --> 1:52:19.559 so like yo, I get on, Like yeah, you're supposed 1:52:19.560 --> 1:52:21.360 to look out for your boys. Like now we got 1:52:21.400 --> 1:52:24.519 a platform. You know, before we had, you know, under 1:52:24.560 --> 1:52:27.320 two hundred thousand people. Now it's like two point four 1:52:27.400 --> 1:52:30.280 million people. Like why not put your crew on? Like yo, 1:52:30.520 --> 1:52:33.240 like let them know who this person is or you know. 1:52:33.320 --> 1:52:35.280 Somebody was like, yo, you should do one for all 1:52:35.400 --> 1:52:36.840 ladies and I was like, Yo, you know what, that's 1:52:36.840 --> 1:52:40.040 actually dope, Dobe do it. And then I was talking 1:52:40.040 --> 1:52:43.479 to my boy we worked together with Chappelle. I was like, Yo, 1:52:43.520 --> 1:52:45.719 you know what, why don't you why don't you play 1:52:45.920 --> 1:52:48.639 jazz on my joint? Like use the full band because 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:50.680 he was getting like forty five people in his in 1:52:50.720 --> 1:52:53.320 his I G Live And I'm like, yo, get at 1:52:53.400 --> 1:52:55.320 least a couple of thousands if you come on this joint, 1:52:56.320 --> 1:52:59.000 like consistently had like eight thousand people in there just 1:52:59.080 --> 1:53:01.360 listening to play Jack and I'm like, you know what, 1:53:01.560 --> 1:53:04.640 that's all I'm doing is like programmingization now, you know, 1:53:04.760 --> 1:53:07.519 like and that's how I'm kind of treated, like you know, 1:53:07.560 --> 1:53:10.080 I like to play my music. But there's a future 1:53:10.120 --> 1:53:13.880 in that right there, right you know, like hey listen, 1:53:14.479 --> 1:53:19.439 gon to be a new business. I'm about the pivot again. 1:53:24.840 --> 1:53:30.280 The constant chairs to Chrislity to man miss I mean 1:53:30.320 --> 1:53:34.760 I miss him so much? Man? You are you under management? Now? 1:53:34.800 --> 1:53:38.720 Is there anybody I see? You? Know what I've seen 1:53:38.800 --> 1:53:41.479 you in the rock Nation? I'm not rock Nation? Um? 1:53:41.560 --> 1:53:44.080 What was it the other day? It was tas Oh 1:53:44.160 --> 1:53:48.479 yeah birthday? No? No, no, I'm self managed. I've always 1:53:48.520 --> 1:53:51.160 been managed by my company brand nice you know, like 1:53:51.760 --> 1:53:54.240 assistance that work with me. I'm never gonna be managed 1:53:54.240 --> 1:53:56.439 by anyone. I have no desire to do that. I 1:53:56.479 --> 1:53:59.000 have the desire to build my business. Like you know, 1:53:59.000 --> 1:54:02.240 when you're I I'll be fifty. I can't I can't 1:54:02.280 --> 1:54:03.720 be to do be like, yeah, what are you thinking 1:54:03.720 --> 1:54:08.040 about this deal? Like you already know what you want 1:54:08.080 --> 1:54:11.160 to deal? Yeah? I already know, Like, yeah, I know 1:54:11.200 --> 1:54:12.760 what I want. So that's not if I'm not gonna 1:54:12.760 --> 1:54:14.080 get what I want or close to it, then I 1:54:14.120 --> 1:54:17.200 shouldn't do the deal, Like you can't convinced me to 1:54:17.240 --> 1:54:20.680 do that, you know, like and and no manager, And 1:54:20.800 --> 1:54:22.280 first of all, a manager would have told me to 1:54:22.280 --> 1:54:27.320 stop DJ online. You just get the check out and 1:54:27.400 --> 1:54:29.120 been like, yo, you don't even do it anymore. You're 1:54:29.160 --> 1:54:32.000 gonna be oversaturated, you know. You know what ended up happening. 1:54:32.240 --> 1:54:34.280 I ended up with another million followers, you know what 1:54:34.360 --> 1:54:38.440 I mean? Like, so then that automatically changes all the 1:54:38.560 --> 1:54:41.600 rates anyway. And I never charged anyone for anything. I 1:54:41.680 --> 1:54:44.000 just did what I loved and I followed my instincts, 1:54:44.240 --> 1:54:49.040 you know, Like when quarantine is over, the silver lining 1:54:49.200 --> 1:54:51.760 is that I know that I'll be remembered for doing 1:54:51.840 --> 1:54:54.520 something good for people. And I know that I can 1:54:54.560 --> 1:54:56.480 walk away from this knowing that I did this ship 1:54:56.680 --> 1:54:59.000 for my heart, you know what I mean? Like like 1:54:59.600 --> 1:55:03.680 like I know that, like there's nothing I can smile 1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:07.120 when this is all over, Like and yo, like the people, 1:55:07.520 --> 1:55:09.760 you know, I read comments to people posting, like you know, 1:55:09.800 --> 1:55:12.960 a lot of people post some slick stuff, and I'm like, yo, 1:55:13.000 --> 1:55:16.160 I'm gonna walk away from this feeling like I'm extremely 1:55:16.160 --> 1:55:19.360 proud that I did not sacrifice myself. I didn't shoot 1:55:19.360 --> 1:55:22.520 on anyone. I don't speak badly about anyone. And you 1:55:22.560 --> 1:55:24.600 know what I mean. I don't I go on to 1:55:24.680 --> 1:55:27.280 other people's eye g s. I would leave a comment 1:55:27.400 --> 1:55:29.200 just because I know people will say something like Yo, 1:55:29.440 --> 1:55:31.480 nice in here. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'll 1:55:31.520 --> 1:55:34.440 put other days into my joint. I do all of that. 1:55:34.680 --> 1:55:37.240 I will afford people like you know, I'm done for 1:55:37.240 --> 1:55:39.680 the day, like today, I did a quick set earlier. 1:55:40.120 --> 1:55:41.840 As soon as I was done, I knew Maco it 1:55:41.880 --> 1:55:43.400 was in there, and like, Yo, make sure you're rocking, 1:55:43.480 --> 1:55:46.200 like yo, So everybody, Yo, you should go to support Maco. 1:55:46.320 --> 1:55:48.760 Shut out day La Soul may see. Oh yeah, So 1:55:48.800 --> 1:55:52.000 it's like, Yo, that's that's I like that, you know 1:55:52.000 --> 1:55:53.680 what I'm saying, Like I like knowing when when this 1:55:53.760 --> 1:55:56.160 is all over, Like Yo, be like I did what 1:55:56.280 --> 1:55:58.720 I could from my from for my hip hop people 1:55:59.160 --> 1:56:01.600 and just for people in don't roll to keep people inspired. Man, 1:56:01.800 --> 1:56:06.800 I'm grateful. I'm grateful to have the opportunity to do so. Yo. Salute, salute, 1:56:07.160 --> 1:56:13.360 salute man, Salute man. Man. Once again, this is not 1:56:13.440 --> 1:56:16.120 like the officially one. This is you know now you 1:56:16.200 --> 1:56:18.600 have to join us, don't don't. Don't play with us. Man, 1:56:18.800 --> 1:56:22.000 come to Miami when it's all over and join you. 1:56:22.200 --> 1:56:24.040 I was like, yo, wait, I was like, man, I'm 1:56:24.040 --> 1:56:26.480 supposed to hit up, being like hold on, hold on. 1:56:26.720 --> 1:56:28.400 Then I was like yo, why, I was like, why 1:56:28.440 --> 1:56:33.360 are we being bros? Like? Who are we doing? I 1:56:33.400 --> 1:56:35.240 wish you could do when you came out here, because 1:56:35.240 --> 1:56:37.520 we could have did a great social distance with masks 1:56:37.680 --> 1:56:40.080 that still did it in person. But don't worry, no, no, no, 1:56:40.120 --> 1:56:41.920 We're gonna do a legit dream Chance. You're gonna get 1:56:41.920 --> 1:56:44.480 ship faced. You're gonna get ship faced. I'll drink Chance, 1:56:44.680 --> 1:56:49.760 and we want to we want to tech. So hold 1:56:49.760 --> 1:56:51.520 on here, give me, give me one more minute. I 1:56:51.520 --> 1:56:57.840 gotta say little people. Yo. Okay, So look now that 1:56:57.920 --> 1:57:04.000 you said that you produced self destruction, give us give 1:57:04.080 --> 1:57:09.920 us a story from that whole recording session. Damn anything 1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:13.440 interesting with self self destruction? I mean, were you there 1:57:13.520 --> 1:57:16.400 during the whole product, the whole recording of that. The 1:57:16.480 --> 1:57:19.280 only thing I wasn't there for was for Public Enemy. 1:57:19.320 --> 1:57:22.400 They they sent the two I'm about to ask you about, 1:57:22.480 --> 1:57:26.080 to be specifically about Heavy D. Yeah, I was there 1:57:26.120 --> 1:57:28.520 for head. I was there like the first day was 1:57:28.560 --> 1:57:30.480 everyone was in there though, you know the first day 1:57:31.000 --> 1:57:34.640 like everybody came to that session. Yeah, we when we 1:57:34.680 --> 1:57:38.720 first started working on it, like we were at Chunking studios, 1:57:39.600 --> 1:57:41.760 you know, like L was there because l I was 1:57:41.800 --> 1:57:43.720 writing Light's part, you know what I mean, Like it 1:57:43.800 --> 1:57:47.520 was just we haven't compete doing. But why wasn't L 1:57:47.640 --> 1:57:52.280 on it? I don't know. I mean he wrote he 1:57:53.320 --> 1:57:57.640 lights Ryan, Yeah, he wrote my girl then get comfortable 1:58:00.320 --> 1:58:03.240 DJ life bro. Yeah, listen, we got I got it 1:58:03.240 --> 1:58:09.840 at the crib? What what is? What is? What does 1:58:09.920 --> 1:58:13.760 your bridge dues by'all identify with that? This is not ship? 1:58:14.000 --> 1:58:17.680 You can buy a ship nine all right now, Yeah, 1:58:18.120 --> 1:58:22.520 it don't look for exactly you need this man. Yeah, man, 1:58:22.520 --> 1:58:25.240 that ship, that ship. If you can't go to Masseus, 1:58:25.280 --> 1:58:27.400 that ship got you. I got some other ship that 1:58:27.560 --> 1:58:31.320 goes the roller. That's that rich dude ship you got 1:58:31.440 --> 1:58:41.080 right there. Yeah, so Nori listen he said that self destruction. 1:58:41.440 --> 1:58:45.720 Almost all of it was one session. That's crazy. Not 1:58:45.840 --> 1:58:49.800 all know like it hap it started in like one session. 1:58:50.120 --> 1:58:52.800 That's bana. Just to think about all those I mean 1:58:52.840 --> 1:58:54.840 I know that right now. It's difficult to think about 1:58:54.880 --> 1:58:58.360 all artists in a studio together, but to think about 1:58:58.400 --> 1:59:03.720 those iconic Let's Dairy artists all in that studio doing 1:59:03.760 --> 1:59:07.080 that record is crazy. Man. Yeah, but we weren't iconic 1:59:07.120 --> 1:59:10.760 then though, you know, I don't care, don't don't ruin 1:59:10.880 --> 1:59:14.400 my my vision of this right now. Yeah, you know 1:59:14.480 --> 1:59:16.680 we weren't iconic then. You know, this is really feel 1:59:16.880 --> 1:59:19.200 like I got some like let's like you got a 1:59:19.240 --> 1:59:23.320 boat constrictor around your neck right now, just like I'm 1:59:23.400 --> 1:59:25.800 like a Diddy's mansion. I got somebody handling this one. 1:59:25.840 --> 1:59:30.280 I'm I'm trying to or a drinking. That was my 1:59:30.440 --> 1:59:34.880 other question, what's your most um awkward? This party like 1:59:35.080 --> 1:59:38.760 a party of ever just awkward? You just got you 1:59:38.800 --> 1:59:40.840 went to DJ and the ship was just probably just 1:59:42.800 --> 1:59:48.120 sh I forgot. I don't even have one, honestly, Like, yeah, 1:59:48.320 --> 1:59:50.400 I don't. I don't even know if any awkward parties. Man, 1:59:51.480 --> 1:59:53.760 I forget. I had a party one time, I forget 1:59:53.800 --> 1:59:56.000 what was like one of these guys that holds I 1:59:56.000 --> 1:59:58.480 think it was Johnny Carson or one of them guy's sons, 1:59:59.480 --> 2:00:03.160 And it was like just crazy. It was a balloon party. 2:00:03.240 --> 2:00:11.320 So we went in it was just never experienced like that. 2:00:12.400 --> 2:00:16.520 I'm creaking Crystal and it just loves everywhere and I 2:00:16.680 --> 2:00:20.600 just it was like that was a little walker for me. Yeah, yeah, 2:00:20.640 --> 2:00:22.520 that sounds crazy. And I've never had one of the 2:00:24.240 --> 2:00:27.840 party with Johnny Carson, so like I think it's Johnny 2:00:27.840 --> 2:00:31.680 Carson's son. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, no, no, 2:00:31.720 --> 2:00:35.640 not damn. I'm yeah. I've never had anything weird, man, 2:00:36.000 --> 2:00:40.360 I really listen, I don't. My DJ career has been outstanding. Bro. 2:00:41.000 --> 2:00:43.680 You like festivals the South bast Southwest as you like that. 2:00:43.720 --> 2:00:45.640 My sneakers always get messed up every time I go 2:00:45.720 --> 2:00:49.240 to it. Like that's like like the festival. I just 2:00:49.280 --> 2:00:52.360 like watching people dance, man, you know, like having watching 2:00:52.360 --> 2:00:55.160 people have a good time and really like and just 2:00:55.320 --> 2:00:58.200 celebrate music. You know, I can't wait for this to 2:00:58.200 --> 2:00:59.960 be over because I want to hit the stage, you know. 2:01:00.080 --> 2:01:03.520 Like my gold morning Man is like our goal is 2:01:03.520 --> 2:01:08.160 to play the Hollywood Bowl mm hmmm, because it's an 2:01:08.160 --> 2:01:11.120 outdoor space. And I feel like during this time of COVID, 2:01:11.440 --> 2:01:14.480 people have gotten closer to their families, Like people listening 2:01:14.520 --> 2:01:17.680 to my music with their families. People put on the systems, 2:01:18.200 --> 2:01:21.360 play the same music with their kids, and they'll send 2:01:21.360 --> 2:01:23.720 me images and videos dancing with their kids. So it's 2:01:23.760 --> 2:01:27.560 like I need to be that type of person that 2:01:27.640 --> 2:01:32.640 would be playing amphitheaters, you know what I'm saying, Like 2:01:32.720 --> 2:01:36.160 instead of like worried about like nightclubs, I'm playing amphitheaters 2:01:36.160 --> 2:01:38.400 and people are coming out with their families, you know, 2:01:38.600 --> 2:01:40.640 and like so as soon as I said that, like 2:01:41.120 --> 2:01:43.560 you know, now Rogers from she hit me like, Yo, 2:01:43.640 --> 2:01:46.280 you really want to do Hollywood Bowl? I was like, yeah, 2:01:46.280 --> 2:01:50.680 I want Hollywood Ball. I want you, I want Chic. 2:01:51.600 --> 2:01:53.400 I was like, yeo, I just want to Holly Ball. 2:01:53.440 --> 2:01:56.440 I forget didn't didn't mirrors or somebody through festival how 2:01:56.520 --> 2:01:59.680 to be a ball? Oh? I don't know. I think 2:01:59.720 --> 2:02:02.440 so not sure for guy, but yeah, it's like outdoors, 2:02:02.480 --> 2:02:05.040 people come with their wine, Like that's the kind of 2:02:05.080 --> 2:02:09.440 vibe I see drinking your wine. Like yo, yeah tonight, 2:02:09.480 --> 2:02:14.280 I'm on a spade. What is a spade? That? Okay, 2:02:14.560 --> 2:02:16.879 tonight I'm on a spad. You know what I'm saying. 2:02:17.160 --> 2:02:18.800 Hopefully hold watching this, you know what I'm saying, We 2:02:18.880 --> 2:02:24.640 keeping it, keeping it, keeping it, yeah, and just in case, 2:02:24.680 --> 2:02:26.400 you know, we know, did he watch it too. You 2:02:26.440 --> 2:02:30.720 know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'll keep you the humbers 2:02:30.720 --> 2:02:35.200 they're watching too, I'll keeping it in house. Look look, okay, 2:02:35.280 --> 2:02:39.400 little we gotta do say two got I was trying 2:02:39.400 --> 2:02:42.800 not to mix. Man, you know I started started drinking dark. Yeah, 2:02:42.880 --> 2:02:44.880 I've been drinking water. That's why I've been drinking water 2:02:44.920 --> 2:02:47.400 on goddamn day. But when we said we got you 2:02:47.480 --> 2:02:50.520 on here, I said, man, we gotta we got Donely 2:02:50.560 --> 2:02:52.760 on too. Just in Jays did he look Jesus Christ, 2:02:52.680 --> 2:03:02.720 look here, don't okay? Hold on? So life life, life 2:03:02.800 --> 2:03:05.880 as a new d nice is it is there because 2:03:05.880 --> 2:03:08.840 there's people who only know me from being podcasting, right 2:03:09.200 --> 2:03:11.800 there's people that only like I remember how to show 2:03:11.800 --> 2:03:14.680 in San Francisco And I'm walking to the stage and 2:03:14.720 --> 2:03:16.400 the kid looks at me like what are you doing? 2:03:16.440 --> 2:03:18.560 Why are you going to the stage And I'm like, 2:03:18.600 --> 2:03:21.200 I'm going to perform. He's like, you're doing a podcast 2:03:21.320 --> 2:03:23.839 right now. And I'm like no, I'm going to perform. 2:03:23.920 --> 2:03:26.760 And the kid had no idea, you know, r e 2:03:27.120 --> 2:03:30.360 the actual artists. And then I performed and he's like 2:03:30.440 --> 2:03:37.960 those are your songs? Like like I'm like, yeah, they're 2:03:38.000 --> 2:03:40.280 like He's like, oh, ship, there's people who just know 2:03:40.640 --> 2:03:42.680 is there people just to know you from like a 2:03:42.760 --> 2:03:47.720 certain part of your So the funny thing is UM 2:03:47.760 --> 2:03:52.480 one of the clients agencies. She she called me one 2:03:52.560 --> 2:03:55.320 day and she was like, yo, Haneken wants to work 2:03:55.360 --> 2:03:58.680 with you. Oh no, Hankin keeps calling about the rapper 2:03:58.800 --> 2:04:01.840 D Nice, but I keep telling them we only know 2:04:01.880 --> 2:04:03.640 the d J D Knights, and I just felt out. 2:04:03.680 --> 2:04:08.480 Lu I was like, the same person, you should charge 2:04:08.480 --> 2:04:12.040 to different rates. You should be like, yo, I I 2:04:12.040 --> 2:04:17.200 could book you the rapper and the DJ get paid 2:04:17.240 --> 2:04:23.320 twice twice. Their fault, not yours. I was like, Dave, 2:04:23.440 --> 2:04:25.600 I am the rapper D Knights, I just DJ now. 2:04:25.720 --> 2:04:27.440 I used to wrap back the day. She looked at me. 2:04:27.440 --> 2:04:30.000 She was like you, I can't even see it. You're 2:04:30.040 --> 2:04:36.040 a rapper. Oh man, No, it's just there's a lot 2:04:36.040 --> 2:04:37.320 of people just like there are a lot of people 2:04:37.360 --> 2:04:42.000 that rediscovered me. You look to give a million followers 2:04:42.040 --> 2:04:45.000 in a day is insane. I don't have a record out. 2:04:45.640 --> 2:04:48.600 I don't have a record out at all, and then 2:04:48.760 --> 2:04:53.440 one day a million followers is absolutely the most insane thing. 2:04:53.480 --> 2:04:56.280 They were like, we've never seen numbers like bro like that, Like, 2:04:56.400 --> 2:04:58.040 you know, you could be crazy to put out a 2:04:58.080 --> 2:05:02.040 record now out down. You know the DJ project is coming, 2:05:03.880 --> 2:05:15.240 don't Yeah, yeah, that's something Chris likey. That's like, I 2:05:15.240 --> 2:05:17.720 don't know, and you know what the goal would be 2:05:18.160 --> 2:05:21.120 me looking from the outside in to keep that same 2:05:21.240 --> 2:05:23.840 energy and the thing about it is right, sorry to 2:05:23.880 --> 2:05:25.760 be like to break down, but I'm gonna tell you 2:05:25.800 --> 2:05:28.920 how just how I look at it. To me, DJ 2:05:29.040 --> 2:05:33.160 Camillo is probably one of the best international club DJs 2:05:33.520 --> 2:05:36.720 when every international was in there, I think DJ Camillo 2:05:36.800 --> 2:05:38.520 was one of the best. I think just on a 2:05:38.640 --> 2:05:43.400 party tips. No, there's nobody mess on the radio. I 2:05:43.400 --> 2:05:46.680 don't think there's nobody messing with Flex in the morning time. 2:05:46.960 --> 2:05:49.680 There's nobody messing with dj MB. When it comes to 2:05:49.840 --> 2:05:54.360 global music, there's nobody that can mess with d nights 2:05:54.400 --> 2:05:57.800 Like I like, there's anybody that I could walk into 2:05:57.840 --> 2:06:00.320 the party, You're gonna please them because you have a 2:06:00.360 --> 2:06:04.600 certain niche. You're playing a type of music that the 2:06:04.760 --> 2:06:08.400 hardcore dude is gonna like, the soft person in the 2:06:08.480 --> 2:06:12.600 room is gonna like and like you know, the median 2:06:12.680 --> 2:06:17.440 person is gonna like how did you develop that? Because 2:06:17.440 --> 2:06:19.520 of that story that I shared earlier when the hip 2:06:19.560 --> 2:06:21.160 hop all I wanted to do is play hip hop records, 2:06:21.160 --> 2:06:23.400 and hip hop dudes wouldn't let me in because like 2:06:24.320 --> 2:06:27.080 you know, like the other round, you know what I'm saying, 2:06:27.080 --> 2:06:31.960 Like the only person even listen. This is not no 2:06:32.040 --> 2:06:34.560 disrespect to the originals, because you know, Clark Kent and 2:06:34.600 --> 2:06:36.560 all those guys are like my best friends, like we 2:06:37.120 --> 2:06:40.600 talk every day. But the first person that ever look 2:06:40.640 --> 2:06:44.480 out for me as a DJ was DJ Scratch. He 2:06:44.560 --> 2:06:45.960 was like, yo when I called him, I was like, 2:06:46.400 --> 2:06:48.920 m D bust a rhyme DJ. Just for anybody who 2:06:48.920 --> 2:06:52.560 doesn't know, yes, yes, so um. He was the first 2:06:52.560 --> 2:06:54.600 person that was like when I called him, I was like, yo, 2:06:55.480 --> 2:06:58.240 you know, I'm coming back on the scene, DJ, and 2:06:58.280 --> 2:07:00.320 I got a little party I'm doing on winds Days. 2:07:00.520 --> 2:07:01.960 That's when you know, back in the day you had 2:07:02.000 --> 2:07:04.320 to like name your ship after like Candy Bars and 2:07:04.320 --> 2:07:08.520 all that ship good and Plenty Fridays and New Days 2:07:08.560 --> 2:07:14.080 and all. So I was like, enjoy Sunday. Yeah exactly. 2:07:14.480 --> 2:07:19.920 I think my ships super Fly Wednesdays photo shot my 2:07:20.000 --> 2:07:25.520 face on like super Fly, Like you know what I 2:07:25.600 --> 2:07:28.400 was like on the super Fly Wednesdays. So Scratch Scratch 2:07:28.520 --> 2:07:30.480 was the first person man and that that hundred and 2:07:30.480 --> 2:07:32.560 fifty dollars that they gave me. I was like, yo, 2:07:32.760 --> 2:07:34.080 it's all I offered him. And he was like, no, 2:07:34.160 --> 2:07:35.600 I'm good. I don't need that, bro, I'm good. I 2:07:35.600 --> 2:07:37.600 just wanted to rock with you. And like he came, 2:07:37.760 --> 2:07:40.520 it was ten people in there. It was in people 2:07:40.560 --> 2:07:42.760 in there, bro like and then and I will never 2:07:42.800 --> 2:07:46.240 forget this. There was a woman that came every week 2:07:46.280 --> 2:07:48.960 to my party with her husband. It was him to 2:07:49.040 --> 2:07:52.920 twenty people every single week. And that woman said to me. 2:07:53.240 --> 2:07:56.280 She she's a professor at m y U. Her husband's 2:07:56.280 --> 2:07:59.280 a firefighter. And she said to me one day, she 2:07:59.360 --> 2:08:01.560 was like, you know why we come because no matter 2:08:01.600 --> 2:08:03.720 how many people are here, you still look like you're 2:08:03.720 --> 2:08:07.240 having fun. You look like you're having fun and your 2:08:07.360 --> 2:08:11.000 energy is infectious. And I never ever forgot that. So 2:08:11.080 --> 2:08:13.720 even when I'm tired, they're nice. When I'm dead tired, 2:08:13.760 --> 2:08:15.160 I don't eve want a DJ like I didn't even 2:08:15.160 --> 2:08:17.760 want to play last night. I got on it like 2:08:17.880 --> 2:08:22.760 midnight out here because one of my friends, she's super dope. 2:08:23.120 --> 2:08:25.720 She's been guiding me through this whole process. Of like 2:08:26.360 --> 2:08:28.640 you know, social media and handling, you know. And she 2:08:28.760 --> 2:08:31.360 was just like she brought up like Chico the bars 2:08:31.400 --> 2:08:33.640 and I was like, damn, I've never even played a 2:08:33.680 --> 2:08:39.800 T Barge record. I think right now, do you do it? Yeah? Yeah, 2:08:41.040 --> 2:08:44.320 r E album. I gotta go. I gotta revisit that. 2:08:45.240 --> 2:08:47.600 I saw it online just to play. She go on 2:08:47.640 --> 2:08:51.520 to bars like eight thousands people in there. I'm like, damn, uh, 2:08:51.600 --> 2:08:53.280 you know, I'm getting on in a minute. It was 2:08:53.320 --> 2:08:55.640 we're done with this, I'm doing. You don't do an 2:08:55.680 --> 2:08:59.880 after party? Well, drenk chance, that's a party with d night. 2:09:00.200 --> 2:09:06.320 We words and the words of what's the guy? Forget 2:09:06.320 --> 2:09:09.080 the guys. But if you got the juice now, buddy, 2:09:09.360 --> 2:09:14.360 you know what I'm saying. If you ain't never yeah, man, 2:09:16.080 --> 2:09:19.920 I couldn't be like I said, you know. Um, I 2:09:19.920 --> 2:09:23.040 started this interview off with with with uh saying with 2:09:23.120 --> 2:09:25.360 me and fact Joe say on the side, and we 2:09:25.400 --> 2:09:27.640 was like like you know, when we when we just 2:09:27.680 --> 2:09:29.320 built like you know what I mean, it was like, 2:09:29.440 --> 2:09:31.600 you know, it's any DJ that can be able to 2:09:31.640 --> 2:09:34.560 get like a million dollars show like this one show 2:09:34.960 --> 2:09:39.520 a million we played and hope that it's you. You 2:09:39.520 --> 2:09:48.880 know what I'm saying, got that getting keep getting it. 2:09:48.880 --> 2:09:52.320 It's you. I don't even not hope it's you. It's you. 2:09:54.280 --> 2:09:56.520 And like like I said, Man, we could go on 2:09:56.560 --> 2:09:59.000 the arm for hours and days and days. I just 2:09:59.000 --> 2:10:03.440 want to thank you, man, but time you appreciate and 2:10:03.800 --> 2:10:06.360 staying who you are and holding down our culture. And 2:10:06.520 --> 2:10:09.600 you know, besides, you know me as as as Nori 2:10:10.400 --> 2:10:13.720 uh the artist and e f n of the artist, 2:10:13.840 --> 2:10:17.920 you know, as a person, I was. I lived to 2:10:18.320 --> 2:10:21.200 these moments and you're getting on there and just jamming 2:10:21.240 --> 2:10:23.000 and you know what I mean. And like you know, 2:10:23.040 --> 2:10:25.400 we were really stuck in. He was taking this serious 2:10:25.480 --> 2:10:29.040 as every other American should as well. We were taking 2:10:29.080 --> 2:10:34.320 this very very serious. And um, you kept us alive, man, 2:10:34.400 --> 2:10:38.040 you said, you sincerely did man and do the music 2:10:38.080 --> 2:10:40.800 and you you just you heal the country, bro, That's 2:10:40.800 --> 2:10:44.040 basically what you've been doing. You help. Like I heard 2:10:44.080 --> 2:10:45.680 a person, I heard a person, you know when that 2:10:45.760 --> 2:10:49.440 person say um, such in the house, and then they'd 2:10:49.440 --> 2:10:52.120 be like such in the building, and then some such. 2:10:52.280 --> 2:10:54.320 I've never heard somebody to say such such in the 2:10:54.360 --> 2:11:00.080 planning like you were in the planet dude, Like I 2:11:00.080 --> 2:11:04.360 don't know what his party. I know his party next 2:11:04.360 --> 2:11:09.360 to a nigga in Moscow, like I smelling people under arms. 2:11:09.400 --> 2:11:12.840 I knew that, wo, Like I want to put it 2:11:13.040 --> 2:11:19.320 from because because your party, brother, and you love you man, 2:11:20.000 --> 2:11:22.320 drink chats forever and we look forward to you being 2:11:22.360 --> 2:11:28.840 here with us in person. Ye man, Man, seriously, thank 2:11:28.880 --> 2:11:36.720 you for following up, brom. Appreciate you. Peace. I killed 2:11:36.720 --> 2:11:45.360 that with us right now. Look at you, But like 2:11:45.600 --> 2:11:48.360 you already to, You're not my guy. You're not my 2:11:48.440 --> 2:11:52.280 freaking dad. Are you talking to me like that? Bro? 2:11:52.760 --> 2:12:00.440 Who are you? Yo? Yeah? Drop John, Okay, we're gonna recap. Yeah, 2:12:00.520 --> 2:12:02.840 let's do it. You know what's going on? Man, that 2:12:03.000 --> 2:12:06.400 was a great one, bro, Yo. We had fucking we 2:12:06.440 --> 2:12:09.680 had Guilly the kid. The kid, Okay, let me just 2:12:09.880 --> 2:12:12.840 punt it out there. Came through the last minute. Were 2:12:12.840 --> 2:12:15.240 supposed to have a different guest. We're not gonna say that. 2:12:15.600 --> 2:12:18.320 A huge guest, huge guest, and it doesn't it doesn't 2:12:18.320 --> 2:12:21.760 diminish his huge doesn't diminish it because you know, Silly 2:12:21.840 --> 2:12:24.720 is right there out there busting the ask doing this 2:12:24.840 --> 2:12:30.080 goddamn thing. Yeah, yeah, you know and pause. And we 2:12:30.120 --> 2:12:33.320 had the legendary d j D. Nice Man, legendary Rappid. 2:12:33.560 --> 2:12:37.960 You know, I got hyped. I washoographer. That was extremely hype. Um, 2:12:38.000 --> 2:12:41.000 you know so much hips to be there man, from 2:12:41.000 --> 2:12:44.240 BDP to wherever you want to go with it. Guys crazy, 2:12:44.400 --> 2:12:49.360 he told us that he produced self destruction. I feel 2:12:50.360 --> 2:12:52.560 like I'm not hip hop. I don't I didn't know that. No, 2:12:52.760 --> 2:12:54.560 I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't 2:12:54.560 --> 2:12:56.280 know that. I still feel hip hop, but I didn't 2:12:56.280 --> 2:12:58.880 know that. I feel my hip hop card. And I 2:12:58.920 --> 2:13:01.120 gave it back to myself. I took it away back 2:13:01.160 --> 2:13:03.560 and get right back to my stuff and get back 2:13:03.560 --> 2:13:06.760 to yourself. In the morning, you're back to night. Put it, 2:13:06.800 --> 2:13:09.480 put it verry be at and then you go back 2:13:09.480 --> 2:13:11.680 to the morning. It was it was ethic, man, it 2:13:11.760 --> 2:13:15.480 was the nicest is like, well, people don't understand. It's 2:13:15.520 --> 2:13:18.680 like he is, He's out of here. You know what. 2:13:19.360 --> 2:13:21.840 Let's just say this. Both of those brothers man, you know, 2:13:21.920 --> 2:13:25.440 Gilly and d Knights, two humble brothers that has had 2:13:25.480 --> 2:13:29.160 a chance to come to the fourth transcend. Gilly, you know, 2:13:29.480 --> 2:13:31.800 you know, Um was out there being a wrap up 2:13:31.960 --> 2:13:34.400 and then you know, had a little dry spell and 2:13:34.440 --> 2:13:37.760 then look Flora's to the front. D Knights told you 2:13:37.840 --> 2:13:40.320 about his little dry sprout looking at it flooras to 2:13:40.360 --> 2:13:43.440 the front. And we were happy to to to support 2:13:43.520 --> 2:13:46.840 them in the beginning, in the middle, and and and 2:13:46.840 --> 2:13:50.920 and and I don't never start. Uh, We'll never stop supporting. 2:13:51.000 --> 2:13:53.240 That's the thing. That's exactly what we do. Man. So 2:13:54.880 --> 2:13:57.480 God damn it, man, I'm gonna finish this and I'm 2:13:57.480 --> 2:14:01.960 gonna spray my crib down because us and opened the windows. Yeah, 2:14:01.960 --> 2:14:04.360 I got boars he's dirty, man boards dirty right now. 2:14:04.520 --> 2:14:14.000 Jesus salute man. Another great show man Champs, expect your 2:14:15.640 --> 2:14:20.760 what are you expecting? Bro? Twins? So yeah, leave me alone. 2:14:20.920 --> 2:14:24.960 I think it's three of them. Get out of my face. 2:14:27.720 --> 2:14:34.000 I love you. Study Thanks for joining us for another 2:14:34.040 --> 2:14:36.600 episode of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly, d J 2:14:36.800 --> 2:14:39.280 e f N and n R E. Please make sure 2:14:39.320 --> 2:14:41.640 to follow us on all our socials. Let's at Drink 2:14:41.680 --> 2:14:45.160 Champs across all platforms. At the Real Noriegan, I g 2:14:45.880 --> 2:14:49.040 at Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on 2:14:49.120 --> 2:14:51.880 I g at d J E f N on Twitter, 2:14:52.240 --> 2:14:54.800 and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, 2:14:55.200 --> 2:15:00.000 news and merch by going to drink Champs dot com. 2:15:00.520 --> 2:15:03.560 Nityanit Yanity