Speaker 1: And his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper,
Speaker 1: He's Segre is your boy in O R E. He's
Speaker 1: a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d J e f N.
Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest
Speaker 1: players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number
Speaker 1: one sorts for drunk drink Chas motherfuckings New year' z
Speaker 1: that it's time for drink Champ trick up mother mother?
Speaker 1: Would it good? Be hoping he would have to me,
Speaker 1: this is your boy in r what up is d
Speaker 1: J e f N? And this Drink Chance motherfucking podcast
Speaker 1: makes something quarantine chaps, Quarantine champs right right now. I
Speaker 1: knew this guy right now twenty years man. I can't
Speaker 1: be proud of what he doing, what he accomplished him
Speaker 1: and as I believe it's his cousin Willow, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean represented for Philadelphia. It's by the time
Speaker 1: Philadelphia got got it on the map for It's like
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like only at one time
Speaker 1: for something from Philly could be happening. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you got the bed wave, you got the state property
Speaker 1: wave and then you know, and then you hear to
Speaker 1: meet many ways and now you got the motherfucking million
Speaker 1: dollar podcast. Look Anni, First of all, Man, I want
Speaker 1: to tell you thank you man. You was the first
Speaker 1: person to put me on your podcast. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know what the podcast was. I was like, just come up,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk some ship, right, you know. Yeah, So really,
Speaker 1: I man, I commend you all man for showing us
Speaker 1: the way man that you know, you really get some
Speaker 1: money out of this ship because we didn't really truly
Speaker 1: understand it. But now we just understand that y'all was
Speaker 1: really ahead of the curve man years in advance, man,
Speaker 1: and we was out there slipping and ship. So so
Speaker 1: what was what was what was the decision for you?
Speaker 1: Don't even just to start it, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, um, well, you know since I since
Speaker 1: I started giving out million, I was with a game
Speaker 1: back in twelve and ship people always, even before Wilt
Speaker 1: came home, people always used to be like, you need
Speaker 1: a podcast, Gilly, you need a podcast, You need a
Speaker 1: podcast all the time. But I didn't know what that
Speaker 1: ship was and I did yours, but I still didn't
Speaker 1: understand how you get money from this ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like. And then a post came across my
Speaker 1: page that said Spotify allocates four hundred and twenty one
Speaker 1: million dollars towards podcasts last year, and I was like, Nigo,
Speaker 1: what that's all you needed to see? That's all I
Speaker 1: needed to break them fucking mics out. Now let's get
Speaker 1: this ship popping. And the months we had a deal, right,
Speaker 1: so um um for for people that because I know
Speaker 1: that Joe um he had spoke on this a little
Speaker 1: bit me and you spoke on it off the air,
Speaker 1: I believe there was somebody that started the podcast with
Speaker 1: y'all y're not yeah, yeah, yeah, what happens just so
Speaker 1: our viewers can know and no one can have a
Speaker 1: dispricacy of what's going on. Whatever was with me a
Speaker 1: while I was this out of the start of podcast right,
Speaker 1: So uh, this guy had a facility that he shot
Speaker 1: podcasts out like a podcast studio studio. So it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we came in. You know, basically, how much you
Speaker 1: want a month to shoot your podet to shoot the
Speaker 1: podcast here gave us a number. Okay, we pay him.
Speaker 1: He was doing our sound. If you go to the
Speaker 1: first episodes. He wasn't on the episodes he was he was,
Speaker 1: he was he record our sound you feel what I'm
Speaker 1: saying and yeah, and then after the after the show,
Speaker 1: he put a little mix on it and then he
Speaker 1: sent it to somebody that's gonna uploaded the bus route
Speaker 1: for us feel what I'm saying. And about episode five,
Speaker 1: maybe the cameraman came in and set a microphone in
Speaker 1: front of him. Me and Whilo looked at each other.
Speaker 1: But from time to time we might say yes or no,
Speaker 1: Dav and he'd like, I gotta agree with Gilly, but
Speaker 1: he'd be off camera, you feel what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: this time he put the camera in front of like
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a part of the mic on them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he put a camera in front of him, so he
Speaker 1: put a camera to in front of the camera man,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the camera and the camera guy came in
Speaker 1: and put the camera and looked, you know, and then
Speaker 1: we let it live. So what from You're not really
Speaker 1: talking at first, you just saying yeah, I believe, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like wild until you started talking more. And
Speaker 1: then then you started talking more. And then when we
Speaker 1: did the baron to deal with Barstool. We went to him.
Speaker 1: We offered him a certain amount of money, like, here
Speaker 1: you go, you were ninety six hours a week. He
Speaker 1: goes x amount of money for the year. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, This still don't come in between what
Speaker 1: you got going on, because it's only ninety six hours
Speaker 1: out of the week. One hour, you you're talking for
Speaker 1: an hour and then you're mixing ship down for twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: and then you're sending it over m And for some
Speaker 1: reason he thought he deserved fifteen percent of my company
Speaker 1: and I was like, what right. So, you know, that's
Speaker 1: how they went because I explained that people like you know, um,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't understand that you guys
Speaker 1: to start something, you know, grassroots where it's just it's
Speaker 1: just everybody that's down for it, and then, uh, a
Speaker 1: situation like this could occur. How can people avoid that
Speaker 1: in future references? Well, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when everything everybody else
Speaker 1: that we had on the team is happy to feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's just that a lot of
Speaker 1: times you cannot let people that's around you get in
Speaker 1: your fucking head. You feel what I'm saying and get
Speaker 1: in your mind. And because one of the comments and
Speaker 1: motherfucker made was in order for me to know how
Speaker 1: much I'm supposed to make, I need to know how
Speaker 1: much you make it. Wow, h I don't even sound
Speaker 1: right in any kind of way. And my response was, Okay,
Speaker 1: when you came on board, you had six thousand followers, right,
Speaker 1: I had one million followers, So do me a favor.
Speaker 1: Give divide six and the one million and was about
Speaker 1: eighty something. That's how much you want making than your
Speaker 1: goofy has eighties. Sometimes I'm talking about right, but did
Speaker 1: you see this coming? Because no, wait but wait no,
Speaker 1: just to be clear, because I think that sometimes when
Speaker 1: you're saying the follower thing, someone might get confused and say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe this person they think they the celebrity
Speaker 1: there is that. I think it's just easy, like this
Speaker 1: is your podcast, you started the podcast. He was hired
Speaker 1: help like you. You was renting studio. Like if it's
Speaker 1: like if a studio you go to says oh I
Speaker 1: own your music now, now I rented the studio and
Speaker 1: you got an engineer, and that's what it is, you
Speaker 1: know absolutely, then then then any time we got did
Speaker 1: live shows, he got paid for live ships. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for us it was like this
Speaker 1: is this is not even something to think about, Like
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying, Like, this is not this
Speaker 1: is this is easy mathematics, bro like. But he didn't
Speaker 1: see it that way, you know, so it was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: You know people get fired every day. It ain't no
Speaker 1: ain't no hardst feelings or nothing. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That's just a part of life. See. See what people
Speaker 1: don't understand is well, our podcast is not just driven
Speaker 1: off Our podcast is drilling is driven off our social media.
Speaker 1: You know, if we do on social media as well,
Speaker 1: Like this means that orthor Game has his own following,
Speaker 1: has his own following. And even what you're saying right now,
Speaker 1: right right, Like I know, I know motherfucker's have never
Speaker 1: met you before and they liked and they'd be like right,
Speaker 1: and I'll just be looking at them like yeah, it
Speaker 1: was your personality already on social media doing it before
Speaker 1: you was doing a podcast. Absolutely so, men, And that
Speaker 1: was in the podcast is just a spin off from
Speaker 1: me giving out game on my Instagram. That's why it
Speaker 1: took all so fast because it wasn't something that needed
Speaker 1: to be built up. You had to get used to
Speaker 1: the name. You know, you've seen it every day every
Speaker 1: day you woke up. I was giving you some game
Speaker 1: and and the people was demanding it. You need a podcast.
Speaker 1: We needed to. The spin off from it was so easy.
Speaker 1: It was easy to adapt. Right now, have y'all during quarantine.
Speaker 1: I see y'all recording. You're still recording, right, y'all facing
Speaker 1: with it. Y'all didn't do this zoom ship we're doing right, No,
Speaker 1: we ain't doing those zoom We told my did you
Speaker 1: better stay away from motherfuck? You know so because Philly Philly,
Speaker 1: did y'all get hit with it hard or not to
Speaker 1: come on the thing? Yeah? Really Jersey though, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Billy got hit with it too, but Jersey really got
Speaker 1: hit with it. Right now, who's the dude that you
Speaker 1: had on the podcast the other day that Meet mail
Speaker 1: knocked him bitch down? So that was that was Tony
Speaker 1: X NFL player used to play for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: He from Philadelphia and you know, you know, man, niggas
Speaker 1: bitches gett sucked every day. You know, Meek almost trying
Speaker 1: to deny it though. I don't know if you see
Speaker 1: meet tweets like oh boy girl, but he trying at
Speaker 1: almost Hey WHOA, Well, he definitely know Meek slam dance,
Speaker 1: you know that's for sure. But you know, I respect
Speaker 1: the fact that he's still listened to me. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a hard like that. They Now, one guy sees
Speaker 1: you kick kicking it with I couldn't tell where it
Speaker 1: was going. I couldn't tell what was happening. I believe
Speaker 1: that's Young Chop. Yeah, now what is your relationship with
Speaker 1: Young Chop? I see y'all kicking it and I've seen
Speaker 1: it go far, Like is that for real? All? Is
Speaker 1: he is? He? Is this the internet thing? Because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm forty, I'm forty, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a little different. I don't be knowing, you know what?
Speaker 1: Like actually that match Young Chop a few times, and
Speaker 1: you know he always been cool. He always been, you know,
Speaker 1: just a laid back type and Nigga just cool as shit.
Speaker 1: And you know, seeing him on my page and just said,
Speaker 1: let me tell me all that Chop man real quick.
Speaker 1: Who's something NIGGD I had no id was gonna do
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I'm saying. So then he
Speaker 1: started talking, you know about Meek Mills, Salt and you know,
Speaker 1: French Montana, and I'm like, and shipped threw me all
Speaker 1: for a minute. I had to say, come on, Chop,
Speaker 1: I gotta get y'all off here. Man, you're talking chraz
Speaker 1: now asking asking because you know you're feally you're really
Speaker 1: was six months eight months into into the podcast? How much?
Speaker 1: How long? Uh? A year? Is? Okay? Go congrats? Let
Speaker 1: makes a noise for that, man, I nderstand to it.
Speaker 1: So look, have you ever what's your biggest um um
Speaker 1: discrepancy so far? Like like you ever gotten to drama
Speaker 1: so far? Like anybody ever got mad at you? Anybody like?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, I ain't really never
Speaker 1: had nobody. I don't think it mad at me. You know,
Speaker 1: they might not like something that safe, But you know,
Speaker 1: other than that, I don't really think I get. I
Speaker 1: don't get people mad at me. That's not my objective.
Speaker 1: I don't really talk about people like that. I just
Speaker 1: will give our game that's got its attention, motivation and education.
Speaker 1: You feel they will they will get, they will get madaged.
Speaker 1: Don't worry don't work. Yeah, he definitely definitely put me
Speaker 1: up on that. Now. I thought I thought it was
Speaker 1: I thought it was dope that um that Joe even
Speaker 1: commented on you guys, right, And I thought that it
Speaker 1: was ill that that that you responded back. But I
Speaker 1: wanted you to know that you're supposed to be talked about,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying when you live in
Speaker 1: this world, like honestly, like if if a person is
Speaker 1: not talking much and this growth that it's Joe's, don't
Speaker 1: you know? And he got a big platform as well,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's enough, you know
Speaker 1: what it is. I know that Joe's a you know,
Speaker 1: Joe's a sneaky, tricky type, but fucking like and you know,
Speaker 1: I just was on on Live with Joe when we're
Speaker 1: busting it up, and you know one thing, one thing
Speaker 1: about me North, I don't have no problem with salute
Speaker 1: the motherfucking man. You know what I mean. I want
Speaker 1: to salute you. I don't want to shoot you. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. I want to I want to
Speaker 1: eat with you. Ain't trying to compete with you. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. Everybody got their own lane. You
Speaker 1: got your lane, He got his lane. I got my lane.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody got their own lane, man. And for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't send Joe a message through through Instagram,
Speaker 1: you know, Preace know, we was on live, was in
Speaker 1: front of my followers, was in front of his followers,
Speaker 1: and I told him and I salute you man, I
Speaker 1: salute noimou salute text to him. Y'all showed me the way.
Speaker 1: Y'all showed me that damn you could get some money
Speaker 1: out of this ship because I didn't see it. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna type of nigga that salutes you. And then
Speaker 1: he turned around and it's like and the thing that
Speaker 1: was most really hurtful is that nothing y'all saying it's real, right.
Speaker 1: So it was like Joe like get the first eighty
Speaker 1: six episodes the DEV was on. I'm like, bro, we
Speaker 1: only on episode sixty, So let me ask you because
Speaker 1: I really wasn't following. Was DEV doing like like like
Speaker 1: interviews with other niggas saying this though, no, uh okay,
Speaker 1: because we couldn't have been on episode eighties six or
Speaker 1: eighty now. It was de like, you know, going to
Speaker 1: do interviews like and just speaking about your situation. Yeah
Speaker 1: he did the interview. Yeah he did an interview speaking
Speaker 1: about our situation. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what they were saying wasn't what that what not even
Speaker 1: what Death was saying. You know what I'm saying. A
Speaker 1: lot of this ship was just like out of left field.
Speaker 1: Like so, I'm like, damn, if you're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: a person's situation, at least, dude, at least try to
Speaker 1: try to get some facts, you know. And Rory started
Speaker 1: it off like, you know, if I'm saying something wrong
Speaker 1: that well, if you're saying something wrong that you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be saying nothing at all because you don't
Speaker 1: know you feel what I'm saying. So but you know,
Speaker 1: I talked to them all. I talked to Rory. Shout
Speaker 1: out to both from my respect, the fact that they
Speaker 1: both reached out to me like men, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we've grown man, And if you
Speaker 1: could you could, if I, if I, if I, if
Speaker 1: somebody feels though some type of way with me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna reach out to him. And if they feel disrespected,
Speaker 1: and I see where they're coming from, I have no
Speaker 1: following was saying you know what I see where you're
Speaker 1: coming from. Ro apologize to you for taking it their
Speaker 1: way because I could see how you was how you
Speaker 1: took it that way, but I didn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: That's not how I was saying it. I can respect that.
Speaker 1: We on to see another day, you feel me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: listen real quick, just based off of you saying that
Speaker 1: you didn't really first see the podcast movement and we was,
Speaker 1: we started doing it, and then you kind of saw
Speaker 1: it when you saw a Spotify deal. I'm trying, like
Speaker 1: I'm analyzing this new Joe Rogan deal. Are you guys
Speaker 1: paying attention to this Joe Rogan deal? What they said
Speaker 1: a hundred millions, but that's not the whole million is
Speaker 1: not what you need to pay attention to. Do You
Speaker 1: know what Spotify made forty eight hours after announcing that deal,
Speaker 1: five billion, five billion dollars. It's a game changer, and
Speaker 1: I think all of us need to take note of
Speaker 1: what that means for all of us in this space.
Speaker 1: To give me plenty five That's what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: don't need to, We don't need a hundred million or
Speaker 1: you know, we we need to understand what that means
Speaker 1: for our value based on what we're doing. But you
Speaker 1: but talk about your barstool sports what is it? Bar stool?
Speaker 1: Bar stool? Absolutely, those are some big dudes. Like how
Speaker 1: did how did these guys even approach you? What was
Speaker 1: going on? Well, a lot of a lot of companies
Speaker 1: was approaching us. You know what I'm saying. Department for
Speaker 1: cutting you off? Y'all was independent at first? Wow, gohead
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So we had all the numbers. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. We charted a week you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We on Apple, We got the numbers
Speaker 1: as far as YouTube. You know. So people was coming
Speaker 1: in with barstool, and shout out to Dave and America, man,
Speaker 1: because since we've been there, it ain't been nothing but
Speaker 1: good to us. Man. So shout out to Dave and Erica.
Speaker 1: You know, they came and we sat down and we
Speaker 1: made it happen. It was. It was really quick. It
Speaker 1: didn't take a lot, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: they've been treating as good ever since. Now. The crazy
Speaker 1: thing is you come from you know feeling you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, you know, um from backing days, man,
Speaker 1: you had labeled discrepancies and things like that, what what
Speaker 1: what what? What? What do you like more? Do you
Speaker 1: like rapping more? Or do you like what you're doing
Speaker 1: right now? This ship right now? See I love wrapping, right,
Speaker 1: but this ship right yeah, I'm gonna let I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like rapping, like yeah, oh babe,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is a lot less train
Speaker 1: you with someone say that, I'll say that I really
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed doing this ship. And you can get
Speaker 1: your point across a little easier. See, rapping, you can
Speaker 1: say something and a person can still misunderstand you, right
Speaker 1: this nigga misunderstanding me. Nigga, I don't like you. If
Speaker 1: I say I don't like you, that's it. I don't
Speaker 1: like Capella. You don't need a producer. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: need to get hit the buttons, none of that. I
Speaker 1: don't need it edited up that this chopping fluid and
Speaker 1: then they're good, the dirty version, put a dirty version. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh but you know, uh, I can't even say
Speaker 1: I missed the the touring aspect, because we do live
Speaker 1: shows with this ship too, But I missed the the
Speaker 1: recording of that hot record. When you're done and you're
Speaker 1: listening to that motherfucking you know that bitch fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I missed that aspect of all right, all right, and
Speaker 1: that's the only thing in hip hop you missed. Like
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm making music for being a part of
Speaker 1: music games. Yeah, because this you can't say that's not
Speaker 1: hip hop too. Yeah, but well you know, I still
Speaker 1: be in the studio with a lot out of the
Speaker 1: young and so I still yet a lot of the
Speaker 1: young and ships still keep me up on you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm I'm always around that. But
Speaker 1: just the recording in the in the they getting the
Speaker 1: fans reaction when you dropped that hot ship, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's what I do it for the fans anybody,
Speaker 1: right You think Philly ever really gets his recognition. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: we all on our way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: A lot of artists did a lot as far as
Speaker 1: like not even just music in general Philly. So much
Speaker 1: history from Philly, Jill Scott, Jasmine Sullivan, music sold child routes,
Speaker 1: the roots, um My Starts, Will Smith, Sorts, Will Smith,
Speaker 1: Teddy Pendergrad, Patty LaBelle Eve. He said, pell Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I know my history and a little bit Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot more some of the coming ones too. Arid
Speaker 1: ye be a box from the Homie Louzy, Oh Louzy.
Speaker 1: But I've seen him get a freestyle on at a
Speaker 1: gas station. I was very impressed. I was very impressed.
Speaker 1: I like that sat Memphis. Bleek is from Philly. He
Speaker 1: got over lack that sunny go ahead man, so mr
Speaker 1: at least from Philly. So but all right, now, like
Speaker 1: it was like the two parts of the city, right
Speaker 1: uh um when Bleak, I mean Meek and he just
Speaker 1: think over here sucking me up. When Meek and Beans
Speaker 1: got into that. Now you you you you I remember
Speaker 1: my first couple of times coming to Philly. You was
Speaker 1: in the Cypherss that we was romming with, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So look you see me from when
Speaker 1: the super Dog was nothing the super Dog came back
Speaker 1: and did you think that that was that was a
Speaker 1: point that divided the city to a certain extent or
Speaker 1: the city he was kind of like already divided. I
Speaker 1: don't really think it's divided the city, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because really the people in Philly just gonna
Speaker 1: rock with little they rockwood, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think it just was. I just think it was.
Speaker 1: If you was from the outside looking in, you would
Speaker 1: have looked at it as a bad look for Philly,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But if you was around
Speaker 1: and you know, you know a little bit more than
Speaker 1: you know, you just take it for what it is.
Speaker 1: You know it don't get along, that's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: But with me, I get along with everybody, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I get along. I got a
Speaker 1: beautiful relationship with everybody, from me the Beans too, you know. Cassidy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Cashy just be on and
Speaker 1: off sometimes, but that's my brother. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean by that. But your
Speaker 1: laugh sounds crazy, No, guess just be and he cast
Speaker 1: to say something crazier than we are talking. We're all good,
Speaker 1: so uh but everybody man, even a are av and
Speaker 1: then that's locked up. You know. I was school with them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: really got a problem with nobody, man. I'm good with everybody.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of artists too. I can't name all
Speaker 1: of them, but I'm good with everybody, man. Any any
Speaker 1: new artists on the horizon that we haven't heard of.
Speaker 1: From Philly. He did a new artist in the week.
Speaker 1: I mean, what you do with you? Give us a
Speaker 1: couple of them? Shot him out them Santana, reyh. This
Speaker 1: is from all over. Now, this is from Philly. All right,
Speaker 1: just go to stick with Philly because I know you'll
Speaker 1: be posting na from all over. I'll be watching. Yeah, Simpsontana.
Speaker 1: It's a girl named Rocky. Is a kid named zig Money.
Speaker 1: It's a kid named uh, what you ask from me?
Speaker 1: A little muck? Uh? Mac and Cheese, um man. We
Speaker 1: got a lot of young artists at leaf Board. We
Speaker 1: gotta shout out home you rocking the drink champs? Sure?
Speaker 1: Kay Walker, Kay Walker, Yeah, I love Kate Walker. Uh. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot, man. I might have missed
Speaker 1: a few, but we got a lot of up and
Speaker 1: coming youngest man. So we checked what we're watching for
Speaker 1: them North and you got the Mac and Cheese clothing line. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: my son's that's the girl sons. Yeah. Oh okay, I
Speaker 1: thought that was you and wallow Ship. No, that's my
Speaker 1: let's promote that then, brother, Yeah, that's the that's their name.
Speaker 1: Mac and cheese. Oh yeah, absolutely, they got people think
Speaker 1: they think about to come out in a week called
Speaker 1: ignore wow wow, And a lot of people don't know that,
Speaker 1: like you know, Gilly a hood nigga, Gilly Street Street,
Speaker 1: but Gilly also went to college. Absolutely do niggas that
Speaker 1: bro tell people that I played ball in college, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Was pretty nice with it, and
Speaker 1: then unfortunately I gotta caught up in some street ship
Speaker 1: and got kicked out. But uh, and that's when I
Speaker 1: started wrapping m And I've seen you hitting the punching
Speaker 1: bag too. You thought you was nice with your ship too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was definitely nice, serious, definitely nice with much. Used
Speaker 1: to use the box a little something. You know. I
Speaker 1: ain't my son and ship. You know both both of
Speaker 1: my sons, you know, I make them out. They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't never got a box, but they gotta learn
Speaker 1: how to fight, you know what I'm saying, Because I
Speaker 1: noticed their kids get a different type of confidence when
Speaker 1: they know they know how to throw the man. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: remember me and Mike likely the first time you've Philly. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and that's for hand to day man, absolutely man. Just
Speaker 1: it was called such for hand to day It was
Speaker 1: a concert down there called sus for Hand to Day yep,
Speaker 1: and everybody was rapping. Then I walked up and started
Speaker 1: spitting for y'all. Absolutely shut the whole ship down, like
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, like all right, So back then
Speaker 1: New York we were fittest, but we didn't spit all
Speaker 1: day like we didn't. We didn't just rhyme all day
Speaker 1: like really must have wanted the out. I guess they
Speaker 1: wanted to outdo us, like every time I wrap y
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was just me or every New York artist. I
Speaker 1: believe it was every New York or something to that
Speaker 1: came there. Really Nigga wanted to get in a sighter
Speaker 1: with you. And they won the battle, but they were
Speaker 1: trying to burn anything down. And I remember Gilly just
Speaker 1: walking in the in the in the spher and just
Speaker 1: I kid you not his word play. He tol like,
Speaker 1: and we didn't hear ship like that. We didn't hear
Speaker 1: like a ball come from here and then you wait,
Speaker 1: you wait, you wait, you wait, and did you match
Speaker 1: that ball that was just the first ball matching with
Speaker 1: the sixth. He was like, oh, like we were funked up.
Speaker 1: We got back in the band, headed back home. Was like, yo,
Speaker 1: sign this nigga media. Mike Lighty got on the phone
Speaker 1: with Chris Lightly and it was I remember this was
Speaker 1: this was this was this was the whole thing they
Speaker 1: wanted to do. You know what I mean? Because you
Speaker 1: told that. Motherfucker's like you remember that right, literally man?
Speaker 1: And then Mike called me up to death jam. That's
Speaker 1: when I battled my son and death jam. I mean,
Speaker 1: tell me if this analogy is wrong for Philly rappers,
Speaker 1: I feel like it always sounds like the m C
Speaker 1: is a boxer throwing punches. That's the way the rhyme
Speaker 1: sound coming out of his name. His name Rocky eight,
Speaker 1: Rocky Bob Boa from from Philly. Shouldn't even think about
Speaker 1: that part of it. That's made up movie. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was from really and be ful Philly. Okay,
Speaker 1: But what were saying before that? Who was saying about
Speaker 1: Mike Lighty? So yeah, yeah, Mike song and Mike song battle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us what happened there, motherfucker? So so uh they
Speaker 1: called me up to death jam. I getting there and uh,
Speaker 1: Mike is like, it's findy in there, and it's franchise
Speaker 1: this one. It was a group Greg, Gravy and Queue right.
Speaker 1: So Findy was like, let me hear something. So I
Speaker 1: started spitting. So Findy looking at me crazy, he said,
Speaker 1: let me hear something else. So I spit again, so
Speaker 1: he liked, let me hear something else. Was there a
Speaker 1: nigger named de Kwan in the building with Findy at
Speaker 1: that time? No, because de Koran infended the two most
Speaker 1: corrupt niggas in New York City at the time. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you by yourself. No, No, it was me
Speaker 1: and something just one of one of my homies. So
Speaker 1: as I'm in the middle of wrapping, I think his
Speaker 1: name was Black. They used to be with my sign
Speaker 1: Mike sound manager back in the then. You remember Black,
Speaker 1: I think, so I think. So he's walking by the
Speaker 1: door Findy shut me up and screen out best some
Speaker 1: money today? So Black like what Findy like, best some
Speaker 1: money today? I got? I got my man right here right,
Speaker 1: So so Black like all right this whatever? So my
Speaker 1: signe walk up, so Black like he want the best
Speaker 1: of money on on my man right here. So my
Speaker 1: signe looked at me. He says, some slick ship. I say,
Speaker 1: some slick shipped back or you got me fucked up
Speaker 1: or something like that. Right, they're like, okay, as we're
Speaker 1: going to the conference room, Jay and Dame get off
Speaker 1: the elevator. They're crazy. Oh oh, y'all gotta be the judges. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going this from crazy. We battle is the best
Speaker 1: three rounds out of five. And j and Dame came
Speaker 1: in the room too, Yes, right, okay. I had a
Speaker 1: red Iceberg sweat on my sign goes then I go
Speaker 1: Findy said that's one and nothing. My god, I go
Speaker 1: find He say that's two to nothing. Go, I go
Speaker 1: Findy said, give me my money, Get me my money.
Speaker 1: He said it's the best to be out of file.
Speaker 1: He said he just three a row, give me my money.
Speaker 1: Then they look at j J said yeah, money in
Speaker 1: the red sweater. He definitely won all three rounds. And
Speaker 1: that's how I went, Wow, your north and my son
Speaker 1: my man, but I cooked this ask that that yo,
Speaker 1: what shout to my son? Let me let me defend
Speaker 1: my song. You're not here. I didn't see that battle,
Speaker 1: but I did see about it when when when Shine
Speaker 1: first got signed, we were all in justice. I'm but
Speaker 1: just was on twenty third Street. I forget what avenue
Speaker 1: it was on, but it was across the street from Cheetahs,
Speaker 1: and I remember um Uh Shane walked in and it
Speaker 1: was like everyone wanted to meet Shane because this nigga
Speaker 1: just got you know, this this million dollar deal and
Speaker 1: a mien out of publishing deal. So we walked over
Speaker 1: and I was a little saucy and I started to rhyme,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Sean started the rhyme and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a battle. But then my song walked over there
Speaker 1: and my son just gave me the hood looked like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you already nory nigga relaxed, let me take care of this,
Speaker 1: and that one, you know, he listened to trust me
Speaker 1: I was dead. Trust me I was the That was
Speaker 1: the red trust me done. Yeah, he just that was
Speaker 1: the red yea yea. Trust me I was dead. And
Speaker 1: he said that's what he was going up against. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hard. I don't do that. But okay, right after
Speaker 1: shot battle, Yeah, because that's only thing you'd just be shot. Listen,
Speaker 1: six figures of major figures, major figures, you've been sucking
Speaker 1: up six figures? Cool. I was waiting for the major
Speaker 1: figure ship later, but nigger you have to relax, said
Speaker 1: six because Nicks name and Memphis been from Philly. My bad,
Speaker 1: the medicant out of control. Uh, it's all good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's take it back to the major figure days.
Speaker 1: How was that a lot of you know, it was
Speaker 1: good in the beginning when you didn't get no money.
Speaker 1: An soon as you get some money, you know, it's
Speaker 1: seven motherfucker's it's seven Eagles Man who you had a
Speaker 1: live have live Rolex Okay, Well Space and Dutch and myself,
Speaker 1: Dutchess Spade, Well Spade home, Yes, sir, Okay, pick up
Speaker 1: the spade, pick up the Dutch Man absolutely job Rule
Speaker 1: came on the show and said that he had battle
Speaker 1: Dutchess Spade and he cooked them. I can't lie to
Speaker 1: you that Nigga Dutch, which one of which which one
Speaker 1: was home Dutch? He went crazy but Nigga, but he
Speaker 1: beat me in the battle. You know, John was just
Speaker 1: talking ship. I can't, I can't lie to you. This
Speaker 1: thing was on Twitter for six months straight going don't
Speaker 1: tell John. I wanted to tell y'all one. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is just because that's this is the time where
Speaker 1: people didn't understand what podcast was so they thought when
Speaker 1: John was just talking, he thought that job was disrespecting
Speaker 1: when the job was just he was saying how he
Speaker 1: saw the story. You know what his perspective. His perspective,
Speaker 1: boy was was Dutch. He did not understand that he
Speaker 1: was on the end ofnet going crazy. That's my nigga, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: six months he was going crazy though to my turn
Speaker 1: to do it because everyone thought he was filming in
Speaker 1: New York at first, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: we still think that sometimes we knew most of the
Speaker 1: time we traveled, but you know I didn't then right
Speaker 1: after that, we just stuck in Miami. So I was
Speaker 1: telling to come to Miami, and he just wasn't getting
Speaker 1: at the time. But big up the Dutch, Big up
Speaker 1: the spade them dudes. Uh big with Charlie Baltimore's world.
Speaker 1: That isn't that another fully fully people? Yeah, yeah, funny,
Speaker 1: you got, you got, you got some people. Now you
Speaker 1: know what it is? You got what trumps at all
Speaker 1: on no pun intended. It's the Will Smith nigger. It's
Speaker 1: like nobody's gonna catch that nigga, right, like like nobody
Speaker 1: gonna catch like right, nobody for real, right, somebody but
Speaker 1: still yeah, he's still yeah, and we'll will let he
Speaker 1: gave up his property that what is it north side
Speaker 1: of Fility, born and raised the West side? Was he
Speaker 1: ain't got no property out there, no more right, like
Speaker 1: really not a place that you get up and be
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go back right like you leave, it's
Speaker 1: going forever going to you get the funk out of
Speaker 1: that any type of one fucking move and then move
Speaker 1: back to Philly. You know they busted in the Skuyt
Speaker 1: just know, and then we'll only want to hear your story. Dog,
Speaker 1: you're fucked up. You don't get an apartment on South Street,
Speaker 1: you know what's on or you gotta be living like
Speaker 1: downtown Center City, like you know the high rises Mike
Speaker 1: calls thirty five hundred or something. But we was we
Speaker 1: seen some nice ship when we was at the Roots picnic.
Speaker 1: If he got around the corner from Esca Bibble's, it's over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but listen, you'll be living in this should be them
Speaker 1: a million dollars, but it being a hood. Like fucker
Speaker 1: gets shot at the corner, like that's that's the type
Speaker 1: of ship they're building up. These these luxurious and glorious
Speaker 1: fucking crimps, but block down the motherfucker to get shot.
Speaker 1: Tweet called on fight. You know what the funniest ship
Speaker 1: about Philly and South Jersey niggas. Philly and South Jersey
Speaker 1: niggas will get on the run and switch towns like
Speaker 1: they're getting low and it's still a heat though a
Speaker 1: feeling nigging will give here on the run of South Jersey.
Speaker 1: You think it will be on the Philly and they
Speaker 1: low and I'll be like the bag and the nigga's
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes away. Man, I was. I just want
Speaker 1: to congratulate you though, my brother. You know what I mean, man, Man, Man,
Speaker 1: you guys are doing a wonderful job. Man ship, I
Speaker 1: I don't even know, man. I just want to just
Speaker 1: just keep bigging y'all luck man, because like I said, man,
Speaker 1: it's wanting enough money for everybody to be out here.
Speaker 1: When when when um, when I like, I say this
Speaker 1: a couple of times when I was on the block,
Speaker 1: you know there's people that have you know, you know
Speaker 1: better client telling me there's people that had better you know,
Speaker 1: work through me that the people that you know had
Speaker 1: a lot of other things that's better than me. But
Speaker 1: people ain't gonna stay outside as long as me, as
Speaker 1: long as my tax set get off. I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk. Would anybody do down the block, up the block,
Speaker 1: up the river, upstairs, downstairs, in between the stairs, or
Speaker 1: under the stairs. It doesn't matter to me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, So, so what are you smoking
Speaker 1: right now? That that looks like a back A lot
Speaker 1: of money? You're smoking a back Okay, let's just let's
Speaker 1: I see your medical ship because I got a medical
Speaker 1: car too. Yeah, I'm supposed is definitely a backwood. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's back with what kind of but is that? This
Speaker 1: is look like CBD right now? Really? No, this is
Speaker 1: uh cherry diesel, dairy diesel, dairy des like Rys dairy diesel,
Speaker 1: cherry man cherry. I through the same dry I thought
Speaker 1: you have milking it. I said this thing about that
Speaker 1: let milking this week. Who you hey, listen though, NOI
Speaker 1: I smoked that ship, bro, that ship. Get your eyes
Speaker 1: a mini scooge me. You ever thought that the most
Speaker 1: success you were got out of this will be through
Speaker 1: you know, just talking? No, that's crazy, right, that's I'm
Speaker 1: fucking believable man. All right, that's it's like that's to me.
Speaker 1: It's like I get that I got a platform where
Speaker 1: I could say whatever the funk I want? Why speaking mind? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could just speak my mind, right, no restrictions, Right,
Speaker 1: this is this is beautiful man. That's like the real
Speaker 1: American dream. That's the real Americing man. What was the moment?
Speaker 1: Because you know, um, you know what what we'll all
Speaker 1: due expect to everybody out there. There's so many people,
Speaker 1: Like when me and E f N started to do
Speaker 1: this and were doing an interviewing people, there's other people
Speaker 1: that I believe Joe Joe started before us. I believe
Speaker 1: Iced Tea even started before us. I see's the first
Speaker 1: one to do it, to do it. The first rapper
Speaker 1: to ever have a podcast, first rapper, first podcast ever
Speaker 1: hip hop podcast is Peter Rosenberg and Cyper Sound and
Speaker 1: Chuck D. We can't discount him because he had internet radio,
Speaker 1: which is the I don't want that radio. I don't
Speaker 1: want to count you know, it's a pre curse to
Speaker 1: the podcast. I give you precursor, but not podcast, but
Speaker 1: the first podcast for Speer and Rosenberg um hip hop podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then the first artist, rapper artists to have a podcast,
Speaker 1: with iced tea. Then I believe Joe Joe Button, and
Speaker 1: then I believe comeback, but that he went in a
Speaker 1: hitting the rapper. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 1: hip hop relag but hip hop. You're correct, you are
Speaker 1: totally correct. And there's also like I think it's the
Speaker 1: rail um uh, let's big up. What's the other the
Speaker 1: combat Jack's boy? Um? I forgot his name, Premium Pete yeah,
Speaker 1: because people mattered it in me. But pick up a
Speaker 1: tax Stone, absolutely absolutely tax Stone. So I forgot the
Speaker 1: point I was trying to make. Um, but but what
Speaker 1: I was damn damn what was the point I was
Speaker 1: trying to know what Yeah, goddamn ha ha ha. I
Speaker 1: was trying to make a great point. I totally forgot
Speaker 1: this crazy I'm not drinking when I'm when I'm drinking,
Speaker 1: like huh yeah yeah, So so we were not realize
Speaker 1: I'm trying to freestyle. Let's just see if I can't
Speaker 1: go for it, go for it, yeah yeah huh or
Speaker 1: don't yeah, but just talking yeah, yeah, That's where I
Speaker 1: was at. Yeah, thank you, thank you, but just so
Speaker 1: so um so, when was the moment did you actually
Speaker 1: think did you actually knew you had something like, because
Speaker 1: this is the point I was trying to make it
Speaker 1: after we were after we did it and we had
Speaker 1: a couple and we had success with it. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know we had did it for like
Speaker 1: eight months for free. We didn't remember, no, and you
Speaker 1: discounted when we was doing on serious sextime too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a totally different I don't think that's different. Man,
Speaker 1: just podcast. I'm just getting just podcast, right, okay, alright, alright, cool?
Speaker 1: But when was the moment Gilly for you when you episode?
Speaker 1: Was it an episode or was it why you recording it,
Speaker 1: or was it the reaction that you said, Yea, I
Speaker 1: got something, I'm ana stick with it. Well, I kind
Speaker 1: of knew that it was gonna transform over from from
Speaker 1: my Instagram because because of the uh, you know, because
Speaker 1: of the hits that I get when I do my
Speaker 1: million I was withro for games Ship, but when we
Speaker 1: dropped the first episode and that motherfucker want up to
Speaker 1: number two in the world behind Joe Rogan, ship, that's huge,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship right, Like what the fuck? Right? Like,
Speaker 1: God damn, we number two in the world right now
Speaker 1: behind Joe Rogan and you know, at the time, you
Speaker 1: won't even I don't even really know what the fun
Speaker 1: is on Apple on Apple podcast, on Apple Podcast, I
Speaker 1: don't really even know what that means. But I'm like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: don't we number two like Ship? You know, I don't
Speaker 1: even know how powerful Joe Rogan is and you just right,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. So right then and there
Speaker 1: I felt like, Okay, we got something right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And then the numbers that we will
Speaker 1: put out the audio and the video the same day
Speaker 1: and still be still be charting, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for us, it was like then we had sponsors,
Speaker 1: and Ship, you know what I'm saying. As an independent,
Speaker 1: we had sponsors because we was able to take our
Speaker 1: numbers and say, look look how many downs we're showing
Speaker 1: the data? Right, Look look look how many deal Your
Speaker 1: bar stood deals an audio and video. Well, our bar
Speaker 1: stool deals are partnership, is it audio and video? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay absolutely. Now let me ask you something now that
Speaker 1: you know, because like you said before, you didn't really
Speaker 1: know was giving it away for free on Instagram. Now
Speaker 1: that you know, are you trying to pay attention to
Speaker 1: the landscape of the business to know what you what
Speaker 1: you're worth, because it's constantly changing. What we're all worth
Speaker 1: absolutely every fucking day is just change. Look, you know
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like this Joe Rogan deal, I
Speaker 1: want to everybody understand, like it changes everything for all
Speaker 1: of us, everything, you know. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, man, I want to shout out Erica Man
Speaker 1: and Dave O at bar stood man because because they
Speaker 1: got behind y'all. Well was it a lot of companies
Speaker 1: that was trying to get behind us, but you but
Speaker 1: the way that they came was different, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And we we really appreciated them for that.
Speaker 1: They wasn't trying to change the content, wasn't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, wasn't really just trying to just come
Speaker 1: and take over some ship that we built from the
Speaker 1: ground up. They understood our views. Man. So for any
Speaker 1: any young podcast is out there, who who you need
Speaker 1: a platform and you're doing your thing, man, make sure
Speaker 1: you you look at barstools, Okay, absolutely, well, well you
Speaker 1: know all that now we know, so what's next? What's next?
Speaker 1: You're trying to get in the act in what you're doing. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I got a movie coming out, a comedy
Speaker 1: and ship in September UM called Gray's App. But we're
Speaker 1: about to start shooting a TV show, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's gonna be super crazy. That's crazy app.
Speaker 1: That's about a place in Philadelphia. There's a street and hilly. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's it's always sunny in Philadelphia's film that? Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was filmed that show. That show was
Speaker 1: never filmed in Philadelphia though, right, No, I don't think so. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can tell, I can tell. I can tell Danny
Speaker 1: DeVito you ever watched that show? I knew what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, But I ain't no big fan of this
Speaker 1: that She's kind of funny man. Yeah yeah, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't in Philly, is yeah, yeah, so yeah we put
Speaker 1: him in. What I'm nor What's up? What's up? What's
Speaker 1: going on? What I feel like? I'm feel like I'm gifted.
Speaker 1: I'm in club quarantine right now. The quarantine just kill us.
Speaker 1: We honored right now, Club Quarantine. Bro. I feel cheated
Speaker 1: right now. I don't. I don't get the full on
Speaker 1: drink champ experience. So first off I told you this
Speaker 1: is not official. This is just a prelude to a
Speaker 1: real drink chance. And you too, Gilly, and you too,
Speaker 1: um um, we we're gonna get y'all in real time.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something. Me and Fat Joe was
Speaker 1: having a talk off air, and we were saying, if
Speaker 1: there's any DJ that like, we wanted to make like
Speaker 1: a million dollars one show, like a million dollars just
Speaker 1: every time he comes out, one show. And he was like,
Speaker 1: if this one person that deserves that, this motherfucker deep,
Speaker 1: motherfucker Nice, I'll take that. I'll take that number bigger
Speaker 1: up though I'm not even gonna lie. God damn, I
Speaker 1: see you bossed by Coca Cola and but wise it
Speaker 1: the same day. So so a lot of people don't know,
Speaker 1: right d Let's take it from the beginning, Like you
Speaker 1: one of my favorite records in hip hop. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know you probably tired of this goddamn story every
Speaker 1: time I tell you that every time I see you.
Speaker 1: But did you would do something? My name is de Nice?
Speaker 1: Was you you would do that? Douce it? And he
Speaker 1: rhymed on its crazy. So so let's take it from
Speaker 1: there to Self Destruction, right, just being a part of
Speaker 1: that movement from then what what what was it? Like? Well,
Speaker 1: I produced that record too, that's my produced Self Destruction. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I produced Self Destruction when I was eighteen, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's one of my favorite records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I ended up rapping on the song because
Speaker 1: that's first record I knew all the lyrics because it
Speaker 1: was on the back of the vinyl. Yea yeah, yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: yeah I did that. I wasn't supposed to produce that record.
Speaker 1: It happened because um well really I was a young kid,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the Bomb Squad, like
Speaker 1: you know Douggie, even though Douggie is my man, Duggie's
Speaker 1: my broth for life, but they really wanted the Bomb
Speaker 1: Squad to produce it, but care Res Squad for me
Speaker 1: the Caress and a woman named an Carly who worth
Speaker 1: the Jive record was like, no, the whole point of
Speaker 1: this is like bomb squads to people who produced Ice
Speaker 1: Cub like that public enemy, yeah, public enemy, but as
Speaker 1: a public enemy's team. Yeah continue, I'm sorry, yeah, so
Speaker 1: um yeah, but they trusted me with that. So even
Speaker 1: on the chorus, like that's me and like two of
Speaker 1: my friends, these two young ladies from back in the day.
Speaker 1: You know, I did the track. It was my whole
Speaker 1: concept to like I arranged everything. That's crazy. I was.
Speaker 1: I was eighteen, man, Wow, I was a young kid,
Speaker 1: the young kid doing it. And then how did you
Speaker 1: how as a as an eighteen year old you you
Speaker 1: was already b DP from before that? Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: How old did you get into into b DP at fifteen? Wow?
Speaker 1: He was d J for Chris No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a role when I so it
Speaker 1: was the story. It was Kenny Parker, Yeah, tell us everything.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't meet Kenny until years later. He
Speaker 1: was Kitty wasn't initially in the group. Kenny was in
Speaker 1: the group. He was more like the BDP crew, not
Speaker 1: not part of like wholead on productions beating products and
Speaker 1: met Carress on it, Scott Lack really solid Caress one
Speaker 1: of myself. They had it before I was involved. And
Speaker 1: Cares lived in the men shelter in the Bronx and
Speaker 1: Scott worked there, and my cousin was a security guard.
Speaker 1: So I brought my cousin some food and then he
Speaker 1: um he was like, yeah, I want to introduce you
Speaker 1: to somebody, and then he took me into Scott's office,
Speaker 1: introduced me to Scott, and Scott eventually introduced me to
Speaker 1: Caress who lived there. Um and that's you know, literally
Speaker 1: like in that moment, that's how I got done with
Speaker 1: the group. Like there was no I didn't do all
Speaker 1: of the battleship the Carorest was doing like nothing. Scott
Speaker 1: just looked at me and was like, yo, I want
Speaker 1: you to be down with my group. Literally like that,
Speaker 1: and you're a kid because they were already older. They
Speaker 1: were like two yeah, so uh but yeah, I know
Speaker 1: it was you know, Dave. The funny thing is I
Speaker 1: was telling Chappelle this story and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. He just stunned out, like I
Speaker 1: just y'all, I continue you No, It's just it's just
Speaker 1: I wanted to share the way his mind works, right,
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, Dave, you know, he asked
Speaker 1: me how to how to meet Scott Chris. I told him.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I was. I cooked my cousins
Speaker 1: and food and I walked because they the shelter was
Speaker 1: on the on the east side. I lived on the
Speaker 1: west side of the Bronx and you know there were
Speaker 1: no oobers and ship like that back then. And you
Speaker 1: know I was mad bro old Jay, but I have
Speaker 1: o J money though. Now you're gonna get down. But
Speaker 1: so yeah, so I walked like three miles and then Dave,
Speaker 1: Dave stopped me. He was like, yo, you walked three
Speaker 1: miles from your house with food to feed your future.
Speaker 1: Like that's the Deak ship because that's literally what happened.
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know what I'm saying, like you you
Speaker 1: grew up rhumbing and all of that ships. I wasn't rhyming.
Speaker 1: I walked into the situation where it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I want you to be a part of this. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a Scotlar Rock story man. So I was
Speaker 1: just lookingna Gilly right and me and him both have
Speaker 1: a similar story meeting. You know, we both started out
Speaker 1: wrapping and then you know we wind up doing this
Speaker 1: other career. You got like three or four like d like,
Speaker 1: I think you can't started out with ducing start, then
Speaker 1: you wrapping all you was rapping and producing pretty much
Speaker 1: the same time. Then you had this whole photography, you
Speaker 1: got this whole Yeah, like Rover now photography sing. I
Speaker 1: know I'm skipping, I'm skipping and I'm bouncing around, but
Speaker 1: I remember at one point like I wanted you to
Speaker 1: film my album cover, like you were one of the
Speaker 1: first dudes. Though that's the funny part I got this, Okay.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing about photography. So before photography, I've
Speaker 1: always love photography, but I wasn't photographing anyone. I just
Speaker 1: had a love of photography because I met Gordon Parks
Speaker 1: and he photographed me. They did this whole breakday in
Speaker 1: Harlem with all of the all of the old school
Speaker 1: hip hop dudes for Double XL magazine. So like me
Speaker 1: watching him was like watching this older man and the
Speaker 1: time is probably like you know, and it's like late seventies,
Speaker 1: still passionate about what he was doing. He was still
Speaker 1: you know, his hands was shaking, but he was still shooting.
Speaker 1: Somebody was a little to film. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's I want that kind of life though, you know,
Speaker 1: like when I'm older, I could still do what I
Speaker 1: love and m and uh and so so. But before photography,
Speaker 1: I started a web development company. That's how I actually
Speaker 1: met you. I was doing um I built the violator website. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I built the violated website. Chris. Chris was always like
Speaker 1: because I still wanted to wrap, but Chris was like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're better than that, Like, Yo, you know
Speaker 1: you don't really need to shop demos. You're a smart dude,
Speaker 1: like you can figure this out. So he was like
Speaker 1: always supporting me with all of these other new ventures
Speaker 1: that I was getting into. So when I started building websites,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, build the build a valley a
Speaker 1: site for me. Then he would you know, he had
Speaker 1: me doing like the online marketing for the gun shoot
Speaker 1: then um then uh I shot. I shot fifties um
Speaker 1: um one of his um reboke campaigns um. And that
Speaker 1: that came about because I went to Chris's wedding when
Speaker 1: he got mat when he was married at the Vaskaya.
Speaker 1: I was there and I really didn't have was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't making people like that. So instead
Speaker 1: of like buying a gift, because it was like registered
Speaker 1: a like ABC Carpets if we priced, I walked in there.
Speaker 1: All that was left on the registry was like this
Speaker 1: is nine thousand dollars. I'm like, oh, hell noodd real
Speaker 1: quick though, because I don't want I want to catch
Speaker 1: something real quick like a gem in this is that
Speaker 1: you was you was already m C and he was
Speaker 1: already producing. He was down with the legendary crew BDP
Speaker 1: Downward Violator. Most like I think like, was it hard
Speaker 1: for you to to to to go and like venture
Speaker 1: off and do like web designers and that, because I
Speaker 1: think most people that that are that already were rapping
Speaker 1: their celebrities their mcs, they don't see themselves doing these
Speaker 1: different things like that that are behind the scenes. Like
Speaker 1: was it was it difficult for you? Or was it
Speaker 1: like no, this is natural to me? What what? What?
Speaker 1: The best the best part of the story that I
Speaker 1: left out is that I was considered old school and
Speaker 1: when he was young still, you know, I mean like
Speaker 1: I was considered the old school rapper and they weren't.
Speaker 1: They didn't have any old school shows back then, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't like like now you can do the Masters
Speaker 1: of the Mic or any of that kind of ship,
Speaker 1: you know, but stop you doing it, just like let
Speaker 1: me stop, let me stop you for one second. I'm
Speaker 1: considered the old school rapper, right and Kanye Rest and
Speaker 1: Rick Ross and push your tea is all older than me.
Speaker 1: How about that? How you like those apples? That's great
Speaker 1: because is older than me. But I'm considered the old
Speaker 1: school guy. Jay is older than me, oler than me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, these things don't do it, but I'm
Speaker 1: old school. You know that that was that was That
Speaker 1: was a rough ship though, man like to be considered
Speaker 1: old school when when you know, when this ship stopped you,
Speaker 1: nobody was clapping. I was like, yo, how do you
Speaker 1: you know, move on with your life? You know, obviously
Speaker 1: we weren't paper up like the way you make money down,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like ship two, my Max shows,
Speaker 1: I was getting like grant a night. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know, I mean you give a
Speaker 1: math of that. That That sho ain't gonna last that long. Um,
Speaker 1: So for like seven years, I really have nothing, no money, nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, thank god, my my, my, you know. Then
Speaker 1: wife at the time, you know, she worked and I
Speaker 1: was still able to not have the passion lead you know,
Speaker 1: like I knew I was gonna be on the suthing.
Speaker 1: But you know, it takes a strong, strong partner to
Speaker 1: be with you to understand that. Um you know, so
Speaker 1: for like seven years, I had nothing, bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like trying to figure it out. I'm
Speaker 1: fell in the web development because I just love it's
Speaker 1: some fucking crazy ship. So when I wasn't rapping and
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out life, I would always
Speaker 1: be on my computer building like bulletin boards when they
Speaker 1: just had a well, so I was young, just taking
Speaker 1: the computer part of building it, and so I always
Speaker 1: had like you know this this passion for like anything created.
Speaker 1: So you know, years later, you know, like fast forward
Speaker 1: to my old managers started a way development company, but
Speaker 1: he couldn't get work. I was connected because I have
Speaker 1: records out, you know what I mean, and like cool,
Speaker 1: like all right, let me trying to help you guys
Speaker 1: get some work. But I wanted pieces of the company
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to give me a piece of
Speaker 1: the company. Like and I was I mean, I pulled
Speaker 1: in at least site, like we were just building these
Speaker 1: sites for like quarter of a million dollars and every
Speaker 1: month I was making like you know, seven hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: while the company is generating all this money, but the
Speaker 1: thing that I did was I used to just sit
Speaker 1: over the shoulders of like some of the programmers and
Speaker 1: just watch. And I decided to just leave and start
Speaker 1: my own company. So that's how Chris and I became
Speaker 1: super cool. Because when I started making money, you know,
Speaker 1: I was building these websites hundred thousands, and I was
Speaker 1: a site at the time. You know, I wanted to
Speaker 1: revisit my rap career and Chris was like, yo, you
Speaker 1: get something good going on, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: and the story is, I really wasn't trying to hear
Speaker 1: Chris telling me that. So I bought a car, drove
Speaker 1: to North Carolina to see my grandmother. But boy, what's
Speaker 1: the funniest ship ever? That nothing Chris said to me resonated.
Speaker 1: It was what Kane said to me. King was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I stopped at his house and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Kanan like damn in a decade, like LB, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to make music again. And Kane
Speaker 1: looked at me, he was like, look at you man,
Speaker 1: you're doing well. He was like me, oh I could
Speaker 1: do was rap? He was like, I can't get a
Speaker 1: job to be done. Was to have some little kids
Speaker 1: rolling up on me like, yo, let me get a
Speaker 1: berth and they'll have stepping with that R a W.
Speaker 1: You know, make sure it's not r a W. That
Speaker 1: was like the really ship that anyone has ever said
Speaker 1: to me. And I was like, you know what, bro,
Speaker 1: let me just live in this moment that I have
Speaker 1: right now. You know, I got something cool happening. And
Speaker 1: then I just got deeper into it, and like Chris
Speaker 1: was always there, bro, and you know, not to make
Speaker 1: the conversation about Chris, but it's all good. It was.
Speaker 1: It was like those important moments in my career that
Speaker 1: happened where it wasn't just about me, like you know
Speaker 1: where I got, like in terms of like DJ online,
Speaker 1: like that ship was thirty five years of like history
Speaker 1: to get to that point. I think it wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: just happen for anybody people deja online anyway, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen for anyone the way it happened for
Speaker 1: me that night, because no, no hold on hole, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to get there. Yeah I want to.
Speaker 1: You know, I could talk all day. But Gilly, Gilly,
Speaker 1: when you started doing the podcast thing, did you feel
Speaker 1: like that too, like it wasn't something that you wanted
Speaker 1: to um hold on to, like the wrapping part of you.
Speaker 1: And did you feel like this this? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I mean sometimes you say you know because
Speaker 1: you knew we gotta now, we gotta marketing platform. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. I got, I got the podcast,
Speaker 1: I got, I got a million plus followers. So a
Speaker 1: part of you a, uh, let me cook something h
Speaker 1: and throw it out. But then you know, another part
Speaker 1: of you enjoy what you do as a podcaster. So
Speaker 1: you have somebody tell you, like how like Kane told
Speaker 1: him to chill on the wrapping? Has anybody ever told
Speaker 1: you that yet? No? Because because see I just like
Speaker 1: I just went up on swite. He put me on
Speaker 1: Front Street and you know about fourteen the people reposted
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. So and let me know I'm still talking
Speaker 1: what they wanted is okay, okay, okay. So now now
Speaker 1: the nice last time I've seen you, I believe it
Speaker 1: was in Mallible Noble Noble, Noble and brother Shot Kim.
Speaker 1: Now what's your relationship with Shot Kim? So shot him
Speaker 1: and I in Dana Queen Lande. We've been friends. Well,
Speaker 1: you know Shot him and Dana obviously a family and friends.
Speaker 1: You know they've been got you gotta call creen light
Speaker 1: teeth from far off as all right, so I retlect that, man,
Speaker 1: everybody don't. So now I've been friends with them since
Speaker 1: roughly around like nineteen eighties, seven eighty eight, around eight um,
Speaker 1: yeah you know. And then you know we moved Like
Speaker 1: when I got my first real crib in Jersey you know,
Speaker 1: me Shot Dana and I'm sorry, Shot Queen. A lot
Speaker 1: of teefa lived in the same building in Jersey City.
Speaker 1: Like yo, if one of us were like I was
Speaker 1: doing shows, you know, the other person would pay, like
Speaker 1: the other person's friends just give it back when we
Speaker 1: see Like so you know my old like when I
Speaker 1: started my management company back when I was still rapping,
Speaker 1: Like my offices were in the flavoring the offices. So
Speaker 1: Kim is just my guy, you know, like talking three
Speaker 1: decades of the friendship and and never had an argument,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's like some real
Speaker 1: yeah yes, and he's solid dude. So it's so dama yes,
Speaker 1: wow yeah yeah yeah. Like people like they when they
Speaker 1: talk about they're like Todd, I'd be like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I could never call like I'm from Queens raised. Batman
Speaker 1: is l L cool Jack. He can tell me his
Speaker 1: name is Todd. He can tell me his name is James,
Speaker 1: and tell me call that. And I'm like, yol my
Speaker 1: queens nous. Well not let me call you anything. I'm
Speaker 1: still calling. I'm sorry, like he's been trying to like
Speaker 1: personalize our relationship myself. Sorry, I gotta keep addressing you
Speaker 1: as all hell motherfucking cool James. I love you. I
Speaker 1: love hell Man. He's a yeah, he's a solid dude bro.
Speaker 1: And I'm not from Queens Man. I just love it.
Speaker 1: L We're gonna you know, you know, uh all right, boom,
Speaker 1: quarantine happens, right everyone, you know, us as black people,
Speaker 1: we all laughed at first. When the coronavirus hit. Everyone
Speaker 1: had I drink Corona, you know what I'm saying. Everyone
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know people, I'm funk Corona. People,
Speaker 1: that's funk RONA was like, I'm phone Corona. I can't
Speaker 1: get Corona. And then this this this pandemic of the
Speaker 1: pandemic happens boom, and everybody starts seeing these bodies dropped
Speaker 1: and people off taking it serious. Everybody is actually home
Speaker 1: what makes you say what makes you say, Yo, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start playing this music and I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: it for the world, because I believe the first night
Speaker 1: you did it was like two hundred and fifty people, right,
Speaker 1: it's a little on the two hundred, yes, And then
Speaker 1: the second night was like twenty thousand something like. That
Speaker 1: second night it was like two thousand. Third day, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the third day it hit like eight thousand. Then that Friday,
Speaker 1: the Friday, it hit like twenty five thousand people. And
Speaker 1: then and then it was that Saturday when it went crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, even though it shows like a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people consistently in there as you know, like no one
Speaker 1: is holding their phone for I was like that. So
Speaker 1: they did the numbers. It was like millions of people
Speaker 1: that were in there during that entire time, and that
Speaker 1: you know, that was like the first time that anything
Speaker 1: like that has ever happened. And you know it's I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, people are like everyone's using i G Live now,
Speaker 1: So those numbers are like kind of small. Now, you think,
Speaker 1: like a hundred thousands of small compared to like what
Speaker 1: Versus is doing or or Tory Lanes. But it just
Speaker 1: felt good to be like the first person to do
Speaker 1: something like that, the first person to crack it over didn't.
Speaker 1: It's that one night, right, It's everything was building up
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about I kid you not, my text messages,
Speaker 1: my Twitter, Everybody's like, yo, yo, You're going to the
Speaker 1: D nice party. And it was just hilarious because everyone
Speaker 1: was like, everyone's really like But then it's that one
Speaker 1: nights that I think. It's the one night where yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Widen was there, Um, the Obama's was there. Um, Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, how does it feel like? Because that's
Speaker 1: like packing for football stadiums, right, having having a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people there, and they're really they're like just with that,
Speaker 1: Like even with Versus will all due respect, Versus is
Speaker 1: about competition. Even Torry Lanes, Torry Lanes is you know,
Speaker 1: he's being funny, he's being great, and but it's it's
Speaker 1: still sexual. So some people are there to see that.
Speaker 1: Type of people are just there to see D change
Speaker 1: his act and play music and change his glasses here
Speaker 1: changing right now, paying say, and got there. What's crazy
Speaker 1: about it to me, man, is that Yo, for all
Speaker 1: the years of DJ and it was about serving other people.
Speaker 1: I was in your party. I was DJ, and you know,
Speaker 1: the Obama's anago ball. I would fly to the house
Speaker 1: and playing event for them or sad again man, because
Speaker 1: you can't say that lightly. He was DJ and Obama's
Speaker 1: not g ball. Yes, DJ, the inaugural ball fly over
Speaker 1: my head. That's been right over my head. So you
Speaker 1: know that's why I said, like, what happened that day
Speaker 1: could not It couldn't have been anyone else, man, because
Speaker 1: it was it was here the service of Like that's
Speaker 1: what I do, Like I never you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what anyone is doing, man, Like I've always just
Speaker 1: been a low key dude. I don't like red carpets.
Speaker 1: I got to do my job and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hate red carpets. Something. I hate red carpets and what
Speaker 1: and did real quickly Again, I just feel like the
Speaker 1: humility and what you've been doing forever, which is a
Speaker 1: lot of DJs do as well. And I've seen you
Speaker 1: over the years. You've done stuff for big brands and
Speaker 1: you've done all these like like different things. I feel
Speaker 1: like it was a lead up because you've been doing
Speaker 1: ill private parties, ill exclusive things, ill brand parties and
Speaker 1: That's what like the lead up was to like consolidating
Speaker 1: all that stuff you've been doing. Yes, I thought was
Speaker 1: super dope. Is that I felt like it represented the
Speaker 1: role that DJs have kind of not lost for ourselves,
Speaker 1: but that the culture kind of hasn't seen us in
Speaker 1: that role. And you exemplified that role for us as DJ's,
Speaker 1: especially as hip hop dj you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because DM DJs had been getting it you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: no hip hop DJ specifically like really like hip hop
Speaker 1: DJs and just imagining yourself being great, like you know,
Speaker 1: like all of the lessons. This is the funny part,
Speaker 1: All of the lessons that I learned along the way
Speaker 1: that I thought was like irritating to me, Like you know,
Speaker 1: like I mean, this is no disrespect and this is
Speaker 1: not about any one particular DJ, but they are like
Speaker 1: iconic DJs that when I returned to the scene where
Speaker 1: I wanted to open up for them, like New York
Speaker 1: DJs and and their team is like now you old school,
Speaker 1: So I had to go. I had to go the
Speaker 1: straight white play rouler. I mean, like because my hip
Speaker 1: hop DJs weren't really like rocking with me, Like I
Speaker 1: went to like small spots in New York, and I
Speaker 1: was getting like a hundred and fifty dollars a night
Speaker 1: to wat for six hours. And I didn't care because
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I was doing my web development
Speaker 1: ships and not just wanted an opportunity to play music.
Speaker 1: And when they embraced me in that on that side,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is the music that I
Speaker 1: actually grew up playing. Anyway, Like if you were watching
Speaker 1: videos in the eighties waiting for run DMC or Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson or anything urban you have the other watching all
Speaker 1: that ship was saying with a BDP, not party from there. No.
Speaker 1: I was caressed as DJ, but not never a party DJ.
Speaker 1: I was never doing what I do now the ship
Speaker 1: that I do now. I learned how to do it
Speaker 1: around around two thousand and three. Two thousand and five
Speaker 1: is really when I found my footing. So around two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, I started to like study DJs, Like
Speaker 1: I knew I was never gonna be the ill turn
Speaker 1: table list. That wasn't my, that wasn't me. Like I'm
Speaker 1: an uptown dude. I'm really I'm from Harlem. I was
Speaker 1: born in Harlem Hospital. I lived in my formative he
Speaker 1: is in the Bronx when they started making me. But
Speaker 1: I'm a Harlem dude, Like I'm a Harlem uptown, like
Speaker 1: everybody's fly you want to just play the fly sh
Speaker 1: it like I wanted that. I wanted to play Rising
Speaker 1: to the Top and mix it like Brucie Bean all that.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to be like Scratch or Clark
Speaker 1: Ken or I mean, actually Clark Clark gets I mean
Speaker 1: they're all get busy anyway, but like Clark blends a
Speaker 1: lot um, Scratch blends a lot too. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be the turntables dudes. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: be playing a sexy ship, you know, so some smooth ass.
Speaker 1: You just want a smooth set. Yeah, I started studying
Speaker 1: like house music DJ's. I would. I would go to
Speaker 1: like you Little Louis Vegas party at cle every Wednesday
Speaker 1: and just sit there and watch him and watch. I
Speaker 1: would just watch the crowd. You know, I'm not a dancer.
Speaker 1: I would just go play the wall watch and I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy sh it, Okay, I see it. And that's how
Speaker 1: I really got my whole, my whole thing going, and
Speaker 1: you know, and then and didn't kind of circle back
Speaker 1: to like hip hop. But luckily for me, man, I
Speaker 1: was able to, like I broke through all of this
Speaker 1: ship that people are having a hard time breaking through
Speaker 1: in terms of private events because I'd already established myself
Speaker 1: in that world. You know, I already established myself in
Speaker 1: that world because I was doing those events that like
Speaker 1: most most hip hop DJs didn't want to do. They
Speaker 1: didn't understand the music. They didn't understand. Like one of
Speaker 1: the things that happened that night was remember Kenny Rogers
Speaker 1: that passed that week, I started blending Kenny Roger records.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I have. It's like
Speaker 1: that's what we grew up list crazy crazy, you know,
Speaker 1: like and that was people wrote about that like yeo,
Speaker 1: he played everything. And if you can tell that I
Speaker 1: love the music by the way that I play it,
Speaker 1: you know, it feels natural. It's not it's not I mean,
Speaker 1: you DJ bro, It's not even based on like any
Speaker 1: specific genre. It's like a fear in that that you
Speaker 1: would vote when you blend these records. So it's just
Speaker 1: beautiful to see that during this during this crazy time,
Speaker 1: yef it only plays where he wants. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the cadis to the crowd at all. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax. That's why I got I got my vinal
Speaker 1: it over here. Look, yo, but he he caters to himself,
Speaker 1: which is dope. Though that's originally what DJs to do too,
Speaker 1: but then you had that. So let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: Is that pressure like when you know him that these
Speaker 1: people are not only in the room there commented you know,
Speaker 1: from the Joe Bidens to the shallow Obama's Is this
Speaker 1: something that you like when you know somebody walks in
Speaker 1: the building. Are you saying to myself, let me play
Speaker 1: Let me play this for Z to get them hype
Speaker 1: because I played them before. Or Oprah is in here
Speaker 1: like open you have listen, Let let me just explain
Speaker 1: something to you. You have Oprah and r E Joe
Speaker 1: Biden the same. I would never be in the party,
Speaker 1: was would never say the thugs and the politicians. I'm smoking,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great like yo. Like, So, isn't a certain
Speaker 1: pressure that you got when you know certain people in
Speaker 1: the building or it's just like it fuse you up now,
Speaker 1: it fused me up. Like so if you'd rather watch
Speaker 1: like people dj R, I g like even right right, now,
Speaker 1: they don't engage with like the people that are in
Speaker 1: the room. They usually just playing music. They're not really
Speaker 1: playing attention to. Sometimes they look at the comments, but
Speaker 1: then they just go back and playing. My thing was
Speaker 1: I wanted the average person that's listening to feel just
Speaker 1: as important as Michelle Obama, because that's the only chance
Speaker 1: that you're probably gonna get to like really not like
Speaker 1: the average person's gonna really get to be and to
Speaker 1: be like, yo, I was in the same party as
Speaker 1: this person, and that's what they're saying. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: and so it was like I just started doing these shoutouts.
Speaker 1: I never talked this much. First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: even like talking on them like in my regular party's No,
Speaker 1: it was about the music. But I started talking to
Speaker 1: what they're reminded me of the old school Harlem parties
Speaker 1: to pay the full parties, Like when somebody walk in
Speaker 1: the building and when you said they named people were
Speaker 1: get in Texas people like like it was. That's what
Speaker 1: it reminds me, I saw because you and that's actually
Speaker 1: how people feel about that ship too exactly. They come
Speaker 1: in there, I'll start I'll just shout him out and
Speaker 1: then it's like the end of scene. You know a
Speaker 1: names every day You're like, bro, when I sign on line,
Speaker 1: not about the celebrities like I do see a lot
Speaker 1: of celebrities, like Mariah's in there almost every day, and
Speaker 1: like Bobby Flame, like would be like the most random
Speaker 1: I did have said earlier. It was like Dally I
Speaker 1: was in then, uh, Donny Wahberg, the crew, Stephanie Mills,
Speaker 1: It's just like all over the place man. Ari Lennox
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, but it's it's just dope to be.
Speaker 1: First of all, I turned fifty next month, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and like, right that cheers to
Speaker 1: that because that ship was looking scary, that she was
Speaker 1: looking scary. I was like, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the club and fifty. Hey, but you're making the club
Speaker 1: at fifty. Let's do it. Almost second guy, Yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: keep going and watch my hand. You know. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you something, d like, this is something that we really,
Speaker 1: me and my boys were talking about and I want
Speaker 1: you to be honest about this. Right when it when
Speaker 1: it really took off, the club quarantine stuff, it felt
Speaker 1: like there was almost a pressure for you to continue
Speaker 1: it and the subsequent like days that you started doing Yo,
Speaker 1: yeah can you? I mean yeah, like we were worried
Speaker 1: about your health. You cut out for a minute. What
Speaker 1: did you say? What was the court? Like we were
Speaker 1: saying we was worried about your health. We thought that
Speaker 1: that maybe there was a pressure for you to to
Speaker 1: to continually do this every night. And me and my
Speaker 1: my people we were talking about like, yo, man, I
Speaker 1: hope he doesn't feel like he has to do this,
Speaker 1: you know, like like it's it might be too much,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it wasn't about the people though. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to say. I want to remind people
Speaker 1: that going on every day, it ended up becoming about
Speaker 1: people about like knowing that the music is healing, and
Speaker 1: in particular, like in that my I g live for
Speaker 1: some reason, the conversation is just different and it's full
Speaker 1: of love. So yes, I enjoy it. But in the beginning, dude,
Speaker 1: the way people out and the way they enjoyed the
Speaker 1: music was the same way that I felt when I
Speaker 1: played the music. It felt like it was healing me
Speaker 1: because I've been here by myself, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I'm home alone, I don't have any family in
Speaker 1: l A I mean I have close friends here, but
Speaker 1: like my kids are in Michigan and my oldest daughters
Speaker 1: and Penn State Law school, and you know, my mom
Speaker 1: is in New York. You know, I'm single, Like yo,
Speaker 1: I'm home with nothing, and nother ship was like yo,
Speaker 1: the music and going on was saving me from you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say depression, just you know, out
Speaker 1: of respect for people that actually battle with depression, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like she was heavy though, you know it was it
Speaker 1: was a minor version of depression happening happening, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's um, just imagine this, bro, Like, Okay, you guys,
Speaker 1: have you got the show, you got the podcast, you
Speaker 1: got you know what I'm saying, you got the TV show?
Speaker 1: Be all this stuff going on right before like a DJ.
Speaker 1: All you have You're show was still going on right
Speaker 1: now before DJ, and you know you have no shows.
Speaker 1: There's no income, lost everything, lost everything. So I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here like, yeah, I did very well. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know I did. You know, I did very well.
Speaker 1: You know where I invested, but like all my investments
Speaker 1: were going down, which they will probably bounce back, but
Speaker 1: the market was bad. Yeah, all of the festivals were
Speaker 1: being canceled. So I had I had my music week.
Speaker 1: I had Ultra I mean not Ultra h south By Southwest,
Speaker 1: I had you know, a c L you know, SU festival,
Speaker 1: so playing the main stage, everything, Beat, awards, every gig
Speaker 1: was just being canceled left and right. So then I
Speaker 1: wasn't with my family, so just the match and I
Speaker 1: you know, I did four hundred thou miles flight miles
Speaker 1: last year. I was on the plane like every other day,
Speaker 1: either going to see my kids or going to a gig.
Speaker 1: And I did a lot of gigs last year. Now
Speaker 1: I'm stuck at home and I don't even recognize home
Speaker 1: because I never really made it home because I was
Speaker 1: always gone, So I didn't make my place home. I'm
Speaker 1: not with my kids, I'm single, my jigs are being canceled.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're gonna go back to work.
Speaker 1: I did well, but not not well enough to be
Speaker 1: sitting and like paying bills for a year and a half,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like this was like
Speaker 1: some crazy and then I was turning fifty. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be My investment is a bad
Speaker 1: right now, all of the games you cancel. That's why
Speaker 1: I sat. And there's a very spot where I'm sitting
Speaker 1: right now. This is where it all began, right here.
Speaker 1: That's I was in the room. I was in my bedroom,
Speaker 1: and I was frustrating. I was like yo oh. And
Speaker 1: on top of it, I was being fucking audited for
Speaker 1: like some dumb ship that you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, So it was like the pressure of all
Speaker 1: of that, and and in one moment, I felt like
Speaker 1: like the universe was just saying, like be still. Like
Speaker 1: I literally heard, you know, you just need to be
Speaker 1: still and to DJ, that's what they said, pull out
Speaker 1: your equipment and nah, I just it just it's said
Speaker 1: to be stilled. That was it. And I got up
Speaker 1: and I sat right here still like like right, yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: it wasn't I wasn't even I wasn't even trying to
Speaker 1: DJ online. The funny thing is I didn't even want
Speaker 1: a DJ. I sat here just because I wanted to
Speaker 1: sign in the I G Live and play a couple
Speaker 1: of songs, and I wanted to interview. I really wanted
Speaker 1: to do what you guys are doing. I wanted to
Speaker 1: interview artists, but I had this interview series back to
Speaker 1: day called True Epop Stories, So yeah, I remember those. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was telling my buddies in the cigar barb the
Speaker 1: night of the quarantine, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure out what the plan was, Like, well,
Speaker 1: how are we gonna spend this what we thought was
Speaker 1: gonna be two weeks? I was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna go into to this this uh
Speaker 1: I g Live section of Instagram and like invite my
Speaker 1: friends in and just and interview them. That's all I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. So I was just playing songs and
Speaker 1: just telling stories about like y'all remember being the party
Speaker 1: and Bruce and b played this, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's all I was doing that. Nothing hooked up, no
Speaker 1: turn tables, nothing. I didn't even have turn tables here.
Speaker 1: I mean I have in my closet, but they weren't
Speaker 1: hooked up by mixers. Old at some fifty seven doesn't
Speaker 1: work with the new software. You know, I never had
Speaker 1: that ship looked up at all. I've seen the picture
Speaker 1: you posted behind the scene showing the rig the way
Speaker 1: you had set it up. Yeah, and I still have
Speaker 1: it all crazy looking too, I refused to like change
Speaker 1: anything because I like, like, I like the story aspect
Speaker 1: of it, Like I'm putting ship together with everything that's
Speaker 1: around here, like my favorite books. And Will Smith sent
Speaker 1: me water the first night. He was showing some water
Speaker 1: to hol Go sit you water. You got some water.
Speaker 1: You got some water too, whills going on, Like I
Speaker 1: used all those boxes to elevate my speakers. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I keep really simple, bro. But you know, like sitting
Speaker 1: here was it was therapeutic though, man, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like playing that music, playing music that
Speaker 1: you know? Who told me that actually DJ was Cark Kent.
Speaker 1: He's like cork Park Park was in there every day.
Speaker 1: Black Thought was in there every day, you know, like
Speaker 1: Bumby was in there every day, you know, in the
Speaker 1: beginning before it became a thing. And I called Clark
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, I don't know what this is, bro,
Speaker 1: but this ship feels good. He was like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what you need to do. I was like what
Speaker 1: he was like, you should actually start DJing. But what
Speaker 1: I didn't know is you weren't supposed to do. I
Speaker 1: mean I actually knew it, but I didn't think they
Speaker 1: were gonna let me play music like that, and you
Speaker 1: know he was a copyright ship. He was just playing records.
Speaker 1: I was. I was just playing songs, but they weren't
Speaker 1: flagging me, so a damn, all right, this is when
Speaker 1: you're messing me up now. So so you could playing
Speaker 1: songs isn't the same thing as DJ no. So I
Speaker 1: was playing songs from my computer, from iTunes. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just playing them. So when I played my tunes,
Speaker 1: I'm not a DJ at all, that's what you're telling me.
Speaker 1: But I just do that. No, he just wasn't mixing.
Speaker 1: He was just playing. Yeah, wasn't mixing me. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So I wasn't mixing at all. So I was just
Speaker 1: playing songs. And then, uh, the funny thing man that
Speaker 1: day when the quarantine, when they was going on full lockdown,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just like, yo, I try
Speaker 1: like using my turntables to mix it in and work.
Speaker 1: And then Kark was like, yo, my guy will just
Speaker 1: send you whatever you need for free. But I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I'm just gonna go buy something
Speaker 1: because there was no telling how long it was gonna take.
Speaker 1: And I had at the spirit of like, I really
Speaker 1: need to DJ right now, and I just you had
Speaker 1: a sense of urgency at that point. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: like I don't know, Yeah, it just felt right. And
Speaker 1: that was that the night that was the first big night.
Speaker 1: That's when that Friday night, when it was like it
Speaker 1: was like twenty five thousand people in there, I'm like like, fun,
Speaker 1: what is this becoming? Like Drake popped in I didn't
Speaker 1: even know he was following me j Lo. Everybody just
Speaker 1: kept popping in there. And then that next day that's
Speaker 1: when that ship was like that she was magical, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I was literally calling people. I was calling I
Speaker 1: was calling everyone like, oh, Joe Biden's campaign manager Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but d do you think you you underestimated your legend? Bro?
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever looked at myself that way.
Speaker 1: So I guess I did underestimate because we all look
Speaker 1: at you that way. I never looked at it that way.
Speaker 1: I always looked at it like yo, I'm you know
Speaker 1: what we do, look man, the legend in my crew
Speaker 1: just imagine this. I had to live in the shadow
Speaker 1: of one of the greatest ever. Yeah, I live in
Speaker 1: the shadow of Caress my entire career. So I never
Speaker 1: looked at it more than like, yo, than what it
Speaker 1: was for me at the time of like this constant
Speaker 1: struggle to not ever be looked at as just the
Speaker 1: dude that was in the shadow of Caress. So I
Speaker 1: never allowed myself to get comfortable with anything. It was
Speaker 1: just like, no, I gotta keep going, I gotta keep doing,
Speaker 1: Like now I know I'm in the shadow of no
Speaker 1: one like I know that for surely, like and that
Speaker 1: that's it would be the best feeling that I have
Speaker 1: of all this, that one I hope like my crew
Speaker 1: and me, you know, in particular BDP crew, like everyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still I still talk to Chris every
Speaker 1: now and then, not not on the occasional side, but
Speaker 1: like like, I hope they feel a sense of like
Speaker 1: prime when it comes to this, like you know, they're
Speaker 1: the man they do, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we're all from me knowing you. I felt a sense
Speaker 1: of pride. I remember the first couple of days, the
Speaker 1: first start I'm happening and I started tuning in, and
Speaker 1: you know, my wife, her wife, her friends started hitting,
Speaker 1: hitting her and telling her, tell you are you watching
Speaker 1: with with d nice is doing? And it just was
Speaker 1: a triple effect. I mean, I mean as an outside
Speaker 1: of looking and it was just like it was literally
Speaker 1: like going to a club. Like I was so happy
Speaker 1: when you named the club Quarantine because it was the
Speaker 1: first time I could be in the club with a
Speaker 1: person in Minnesota at the same exact time, same time,
Speaker 1: like like I could be on Eastern time, this person
Speaker 1: could be on whatever, but we were all all in
Speaker 1: the same situation. And you can tell from the comments
Speaker 1: because that's what I started to do. Like what I
Speaker 1: started to do was when I was checking a text message,
Speaker 1: it would log me out. So what I would do
Speaker 1: is I would go on for my son's iPad and
Speaker 1: I would go on for my son's iPad, but I
Speaker 1: would comment from my phone, so it would it looked
Speaker 1: like I never left. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you know what, But what I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you if you were like this
Speaker 1: was something very very important, like and it was the
Speaker 1: way you brought the whole world together. Like a person
Speaker 1: who told me, it's two things. You can bring the
Speaker 1: world together through few food and music. I had saw
Speaker 1: a little examples of it through music, but the like
Speaker 1: the first real live example I've ever really seen music
Speaker 1: from the world together was her brother Quarantine and it's
Speaker 1: it's you're shifting like first of all party where I
Speaker 1: know they would kick me out in real life. In
Speaker 1: real life, I know they would kick me out because
Speaker 1: Joe Biden walked up into Joy. You know what's been
Speaker 1: like a great experience with with it is that so
Speaker 1: that Friday could have been. It could have shifted in
Speaker 1: a different direction. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because
Speaker 1: everyone was trying to figure out how to steal make money.
Speaker 1: So Thursday, when when they started to pop, this is
Speaker 1: like day three, I started getting calls from record companies
Speaker 1: and from other clients that it's like, Yo, can you
Speaker 1: play this record? And you name this I don't want
Speaker 1: to say the label, but like records Friday, and you know,
Speaker 1: they had a bag for me. They were gonna have
Speaker 1: two of the top artists, and you know all hip
Speaker 1: hop artists come in and you know they they have
Speaker 1: like tens of millions of followers. And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what you know that actually give me like
Speaker 1: some you know, some credibility. Maybe they're because I was
Speaker 1: struggling under two hundred thousand followers. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe some of these people so follow me. And
Speaker 1: I woke up that wanting that Friday wanting, I sweaty
Speaker 1: broke once again. I sat on the edge of the
Speaker 1: bed and they were expecting me to do this at
Speaker 1: three at a new three pm Eastern time, and I
Speaker 1: was sitting on a bed and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel right, Like this doesn't This is the
Speaker 1: one chance that I have to just be me to
Speaker 1: play what I love, and here I am about to
Speaker 1: turn it into a record company's Friday night party and
Speaker 1: not follow my instincts. So I never called them. I
Speaker 1: never I never called, never blogged in with anyone. I
Speaker 1: just signed on and started playing ship that I love again,
Speaker 1: Soul Records, R and V Joints, you know, mixing all
Speaker 1: of that out. So throughout this entire process, I never
Speaker 1: sacrificed my integrity at all, like four check. So those
Speaker 1: first three weeks, I just got on because it was
Speaker 1: therapeutic and I knew it was here in the world,
Speaker 1: and I was just like I just wanted to do more,
Speaker 1: you know. But I never sacrificed my integrity. And that's
Speaker 1: the beauty of like this whole thing is I feel
Speaker 1: like the music shifting now, like we should be able
Speaker 1: to play these records in the club. I know I'm
Speaker 1: going to because there's nothing you're not gonna tell. If
Speaker 1: you're hiring me, you're hiring me for me, like period,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You hired Stevoky for what
Speaker 1: he does, you hire Mustle for what he does. You're
Speaker 1: hiring me because this is what I do, and they no,
Speaker 1: that's in my writer now, Like I won't even approve
Speaker 1: anything that I've been doing them like Nab not doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm not shouting this out if you want me. If
Speaker 1: somebody getting a quest the e f N he just
Speaker 1: like listen, this is this is my opinion, the best
Speaker 1: open format DJs or hip hop DJ's, because then it's
Speaker 1: not open format anymore. It becomes hip hop. Like even
Speaker 1: when they're not playing hip hop. How annoying, How annoying
Speaker 1: that that would be the nice you you at pop
Speaker 1: party or somebody. And I'm like, one time, I think
Speaker 1: Papa's Madden to one of his parties. I think last
Speaker 1: New Year's or something or something like you know, like
Speaker 1: like people like if anybody ever like like trying to
Speaker 1: give you a question and you just like, is not
Speaker 1: the move to the party and you know where it's going.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, Puff wasn't mad Puff. He wanted
Speaker 1: me to play like like some demos, like like new tracks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, you know, like you know
Speaker 1: from his kids, you know what I'm saying, like, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know, I can't do it, upset, No,
Speaker 1: that's it. No, I just wanted to finish my set.
Speaker 1: But you know I was like, yeah, I didn't they
Speaker 1: be To be honest, I didn't have the music, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I don't I don't let
Speaker 1: anybody put their drives on my computer. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, I don't. I just don't
Speaker 1: do that. I don't even start it like that. And
Speaker 1: there's no disrespect to Puff for anybody, because I love Puff,
Speaker 1: my guy. But you know, actually he never even came
Speaker 1: over to me. It was more like his people like yo,
Speaker 1: Puff needs you to Nobody took it up anything. This
Speaker 1: beautiful house in my m me doesn't belong to me,
Speaker 1: but this does what I'm trying to get this house
Speaker 1: with this just never you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: but Puff usually hears about it, you know, man, Puff
Speaker 1: ups when I played the classic ship Man, you know,
Speaker 1: like so and Puff has actually been one of my
Speaker 1: he's at you know that night that that Saturday night
Speaker 1: when that ship went crazy two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: The call came from Puff and he didn't ask for anything.
Speaker 1: He didn't say, you don't want to manage you. He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I just want you to just take a break and
Speaker 1: take all of this in you change the world. You
Speaker 1: did you didn't, Yeah, man, That's what I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell you earlier with That's how we all felt
Speaker 1: for you. Did he Um. I still didn't listen to him, though,
Speaker 1: I'm still going, yeah, but you know what you should?
Speaker 1: You should because you know why. It's like I'm like
Speaker 1: I said, man, like, um. You know, I'm forty two
Speaker 1: years old, you know what I mean, um um, And
Speaker 1: I like to think that I've been around the world
Speaker 1: and not Yeah, yeah, I like to think that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I got so much other accolades,
Speaker 1: There so much other things to do. And that's like
Speaker 1: I said, like I said, like music coming together and
Speaker 1: bringing everything together. That's one of the like the top moments,
Speaker 1: if not the moment in my life where I see
Speaker 1: if everyone really like I made a record back in
Speaker 1: the days called music make these thugs calm down, and
Speaker 1: it meant nothing. I mean I did it with Nois.
Speaker 1: I see you gotta interview with nis on on on
Speaker 1: on the live as well, but that meant nothing to
Speaker 1: to this night. Is you really made the world just
Speaker 1: come together, just you know, and celebration, and I can
Speaker 1: I swear to god. I was getting texas of people
Speaker 1: really saying, you know you're going You're going to club
Speaker 1: Quarantine tonight, and I really we were leaving like I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, weading room in my house
Speaker 1: to the other room in my house, and I even
Speaker 1: had my balcony set up. We had lights out there
Speaker 1: and it was just me and my wife and we
Speaker 1: just parted away. By the way, I told you DJ
Speaker 1: and my wedding, even though I didn't hit you, I
Speaker 1: didn't text you, but in my mind, you DJ and
Speaker 1: my wedding. Yeah, it's just happening. We're gonna make it.
Speaker 1: I mean that. I mean that, like no, no but
Speaker 1: it couldn't have Hold on, I cheered without sipping. That
Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, yeah, I need to put some more. We
Speaker 1: we got it. Hold up, hold on, hold on, hold
Speaker 1: up that Kanya shout out to nas in the moment. There, baby,
Speaker 1: we gotta tell d d Nice how he how? Actually
Speaker 1: he's a part of the dream Champ's history and no, no,
Speaker 1: you can refute this. Maybe maybe I don't know. This
Speaker 1: is my my opinion of the history. I did my
Speaker 1: name ism name hold no, hold up, man, you're ruining
Speaker 1: my story. Bro. So so Nori moves down to Miami.
Speaker 1: He's working out out of my studio, Crazier Productions, and
Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, let's just do some like hip hop ship.
Speaker 1: Let's just get he's coming off of the stuff. And
Speaker 1: then the both him and I, it's like we we
Speaker 1: we both had the same favorite record. My name is
Speaker 1: the Nice. Yeah, yeah, we both had the same favorite record. Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's let's sample this and let's create another record out
Speaker 1: of this. This is one of my favorite hicals, was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite records too. Let's I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: that record tonight. My name is that No, So let
Speaker 1: me tell you that studio came after. That is the
Speaker 1: prelude to like that's where dream Chance was born out
Speaker 1: of Studio studio and that's yeah yeah, those studio sessions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you have a piece of drink. Yeah yeah, please
Speaker 1: don't claim it. But how is that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: bud wise, I see bud Wise of calling, I see
Speaker 1: you actually flew out here for social distance party drive
Speaker 1: by joint, yeah, the drive by drain that how how
Speaker 1: how is that? Like you know, um, just people just
Speaker 1: embracing and and the best thing about it is you're
Speaker 1: being you. It's not like you're being somebody else and
Speaker 1: get in love for being somebody else again, that's exactly
Speaker 1: who you are. So that's been like the best that's
Speaker 1: been one of the best feelings. Man. Is that Like
Speaker 1: I said, man, I've been authentic to myself bro, and
Speaker 1: like seeing all of these things happen, and uh, for one,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really about the accolades because obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been I've worked with Hennessey for years, I've worked
Speaker 1: with but you know, like I've worked with always fine, um,
Speaker 1: but this was something different, you know, like this was
Speaker 1: like people really came through for me. And so if
Speaker 1: I ever had a question about like my own legacy.
Speaker 1: That ship was answered two months to immediately, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like if I if I ever questioned it,
Speaker 1: like y'all, I don't know where I am. You know, No,
Speaker 1: it was the answers came two months ago where I
Speaker 1: was like, I felt the love and the answer comes.
Speaker 1: Every single night, I'm going to Lives and I see
Speaker 1: it will be like hot DJ with five hundred people
Speaker 1: in there. Another DJ was six seven hundred. I never
Speaker 1: see DJs with like more than like two thousand people.
Speaker 1: But I'll go on and it will be fifteen thou thousand,
Speaker 1: twenty five. Don't let it be like the versus night everybody,
Speaker 1: if you really knows to go to my joint. But
Speaker 1: the but the first rightly man, like yep, the Ingage,
Speaker 1: the boost Joint. Yeah, I mean being gone to Killer
Speaker 1: that was it was crazy. Then as soon as I
Speaker 1: as soon as I loved on, it was like ten seconds,
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people in there. I was like, Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, but I love it because that means
Speaker 1: people trust me. Man, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: he was starting, you went, you went so pause, you
Speaker 1: went like six seven hours right, And I remember just
Speaker 1: looking at the comments and people were like, you can
Speaker 1: we send you Uba eats because you don't wanted to
Speaker 1: feat you. You know, people people were like, yo can
Speaker 1: something like you was just you know, did not stop,
Speaker 1: and then you went off for a second, like you
Speaker 1: went off. You didn't say nothing, and then we didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was happening. I'm not sure if this
Speaker 1: was the first hat change and you came back with
Speaker 1: a hat change and he was like, oh, we was
Speaker 1: all hoping, yo, he must say he must eat a
Speaker 1: grilled cheese, so you know I need a lot. We
Speaker 1: would like, yo, come on, man, he gotta be yo.
Speaker 1: I always eat, So I just don't. I don't talk
Speaker 1: about it because it should be seeming kind of flussy.
Speaker 1: But I a chef, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So every time I would
Speaker 1: like I would, I would do this. I didn't do
Speaker 1: the ship right now, like I still eat while I'm teaching.
Speaker 1: But I'm then and be like, oh this is ship.
Speaker 1: Just slid slip to the private chef back. I'm coming
Speaker 1: back with yo, know what I'm saying, Like, so I eat,
Speaker 1: I was just like nibble on the ship while I
Speaker 1: was teaching, or if I'm eating, Like last night, I
Speaker 1: was eating while I was DJing, but I kept my
Speaker 1: back turn pretending to pour more wine as I was
Speaker 1: chewing my food, just you know, to keep the energy going,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, oh, you don't want
Speaker 1: to that's a that's actually funny shot. Though I started
Speaker 1: that way because there was a Chicken company. No disrespect
Speaker 1: to the Chicken company, I'll leave the name out. That
Speaker 1: week was trying to get me to show some chicken
Speaker 1: on the screen, and I'm like, both chicken. They wanted
Speaker 1: to be both chicken, yo, because you know, people couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out the market this ship, so that I was like,
Speaker 1: oh nice chicken, yo. Back that's what you know. You
Speaker 1: blew up, bro, you know you blew up when they
Speaker 1: want you to promote chicken. Then this was before that night,
Speaker 1: but the bag, the bag was looking nice. But I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, black yo, I can't be eating chicken
Speaker 1: on instagramming. But all these people I'm like, I'm good man,
Speaker 1: I'm good. You understanding, But like that's why I love
Speaker 1: where I am. Man. I never I swear to you yo, yo,
Speaker 1: you know I never sacrificed my intech reaty, bro, That's
Speaker 1: the that's the part about this ship is that I
Speaker 1: did not straight away from being who I am, man,
Speaker 1: because that's the best lesson ample. That's the best example
Speaker 1: that you've given everybody. That's the best gift you've given
Speaker 1: all of us. That's a gift, man, is that I
Speaker 1: did not sacrifice my integrity at all. I didn't accept
Speaker 1: any money. Those deals were coming that Monday, trust me,
Speaker 1: millions and deals that Monday. They were all coming at me.
Speaker 1: And like my friends thought I was crazy. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about this because why
Speaker 1: I did it was for people. It was self serving.
Speaker 1: The very first day it was about me. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to play music. But then I was addicted to
Speaker 1: because I was reading the comments and people are like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this feels like a club. Like just imagine one of
Speaker 1: my friends is you know, you guys all know him,
Speaker 1: um Will Packer the movie producer, right, so Will that
Speaker 1: Thursday will call me. He was like, Yo, everybody keep
Speaker 1: calling me about your club, Like I think I'm a
Speaker 1: popping your club tonight. Another still is like a real thing,
Speaker 1: like people really want to be in there, and that's ship.
Speaker 1: It's just like the fact that people gravitate towards people
Speaker 1: like us. You know, I've been waiting to do this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I've been waiting to
Speaker 1: just talk and you're not doing it yet. Remember this
Speaker 1: is not a replacement for the Live Drink Champs, you know,
Speaker 1: but we couldn't wait no longer. We have the big more.
Speaker 1: Our show was about bigg en up people who you know,
Speaker 1: you know, d nice. When you got ten years in
Speaker 1: this game, they want to say you washed up and
Speaker 1: they want to say that. Me and e FM, we
Speaker 1: we we thought that that was wrong for everybody in
Speaker 1: our culture. We thought that if for ten years in
Speaker 1: this game, you are season and we should be bigging
Speaker 1: you up, and that goes for everybody. That's why we
Speaker 1: talked about the Hip Hop Union, like we talked about
Speaker 1: all this. We did this four years ago. We we
Speaker 1: we realized there's nobody in our culture that's big enough
Speaker 1: our culture. That's what me and my part of the
Speaker 1: e FN got together that did it, and we've been
Speaker 1: successful at it. And you have been top on the list.
Speaker 1: You have one. You're not only one of my favorite graps,
Speaker 1: you have one of my favorite longs and now that
Speaker 1: you would do another one of my favorite songs, instruction God.
Speaker 1: But but but I know I'm bouncing around a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that we need right now?
Speaker 1: Like you know, um, we are the World and self
Speaker 1: destruction was or we are the World. To me, that
Speaker 1: was modern day self destruction. Like like like if if
Speaker 1: I had to choose between we Are the World and
Speaker 1: self destruction, self destruction more than me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I couldn't identify with everybody or We
Speaker 1: are the World, No disrespect to that, but I knew
Speaker 1: who Step the Sonic was, I knew who care Arrest
Speaker 1: was and so on and so forth. I didn't know
Speaker 1: everybody We are the World. It's self destruction something that
Speaker 1: we need nowadays. I mean the record the actually and
Speaker 1: they tried to do them over and over like a
Speaker 1: couple of times, but it just hasn't had the same effect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be involved because it's usually
Speaker 1: always the same dudes trying to do it, like you know,
Speaker 1: the guys that didn't the original, like now we want
Speaker 1: to come back and now we need me goos and
Speaker 1: little yeah, we need we needed to be modernized, like
Speaker 1: need you don't need it. From my generation, it's just
Speaker 1: funking down on people, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: like when we first came out, Mellie mel hated us,
Speaker 1: like he didn't he didn't write with us at all,
Speaker 1: with who with bet per self destruction as a trade,
Speaker 1: Like Mellie mel hated us. That's like the first verse
Speaker 1: of poetry, care us from poetry that that was actually
Speaker 1: around he wrote, like like he did that on stage
Speaker 1: in front of Mellie Melo, Like you know, that's crucial
Speaker 1: that you're saying this crucial because that means sho it
Speaker 1: ain't changed because a lot of the elder statements seemed
Speaker 1: to be a little bit mad at people who made
Speaker 1: more money than them. Accurate. That is accurate. Okay, continue,
Speaker 1: that's accurate, you know, Like I mean I see that
Speaker 1: now with with a lot of DJs from Like I mean,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite DJs hit me up, send me
Speaker 1: a text last night, like you know, when did you
Speaker 1: start playing slow songs on the Sunday night? Oh you
Speaker 1: know you know or you know, like people always do
Speaker 1: things like that, you know what I'm saying, Like when
Speaker 1: did you start doing this or like when did you start?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, bro, it's just music, you know, like
Speaker 1: what we do, this is what we all do. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm never limited myself to anything, you know, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, our generation is like
Speaker 1: we all we don't really show each other the same
Speaker 1: amount of love that we should, you know. Like that's
Speaker 1: why when I see Bunby in there, if I see Nori,
Speaker 1: I you know, when I see Nori, When I see
Speaker 1: Nori's name popping there, this means so much to me
Speaker 1: because because of the violator days, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's like here, brother, yeah, it's like I can't
Speaker 1: think about my life and music without thinking of Chris Lighty.
Speaker 1: That's true. This is real ship to me because that
Speaker 1: man told me that, yo, you're better than just you're
Speaker 1: better than what you used to do. No disrespect to
Speaker 1: what you used to do, but you can figure this out.
Speaker 1: So me doing multiple things actually happened because he challenged me.
Speaker 1: It wasn't because I saw myself doing these things. It
Speaker 1: was because that man challenged me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like there was a day in the studio when I
Speaker 1: was building the Violet to site that. Yo, I followed
Speaker 1: you around. You got a whole through in the studio, dude.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was in the studio
Speaker 1: and d N I showed up one time. I tuck down.
Speaker 1: You were there? Yeah, I was there. I was there
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, this is d Nice And
Speaker 1: I was there to take pictures. Though, That's what I'm saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: I was kind of sucked up by it. Though originally
Speaker 1: I was like, holy ship, d Nice is a photographer
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, I have to adjust. I have to adjust,
Speaker 1: you know why you thought you thought that? But but
Speaker 1: when I looked at DNA, d Knights is always defend.
Speaker 1: He's always like fly, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you know, you know he's a different guy, like he's
Speaker 1: a he's a smooth But I think what I think
Speaker 1: is doub about about that point is that you already
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. D like, like you understood that
Speaker 1: to survive. The thing is, we all look at the
Speaker 1: one percent of entertainers that make a living off of
Speaker 1: what they do, the one thing they do, and they
Speaker 1: make millions of dollars. Most entertainer entertainers and hip hop
Speaker 1: artists or anybody that whatever, any of us that are creators,
Speaker 1: that is not the reality for all of us. We
Speaker 1: have to have different lanes. We have to be able
Speaker 1: to to do different things, to do the one thing
Speaker 1: we love. And you know, I was young with at
Speaker 1: that time. When I was in the studio and I
Speaker 1: saw you, I was like, oh ship dean heys of
Speaker 1: But I get it now like I got it a
Speaker 1: little bit after that because I started doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Listen your d D. When I started doing reggae throng,
Speaker 1: the offen didn't even speak to me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still don't speak to you all. Fact, Joe, when
Speaker 1: I did, I did, and I ain't no disrespect that
Speaker 1: I get done respect to you that, Joe. You are
Speaker 1: my closest friends. Nice to all my closest friends. They said,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I said, reggae thrown. They said
Speaker 1: click click. I don't know why. In my mind, both
Speaker 1: of their numbers magically changed right there. So so so
Speaker 1: trust me, like like when you're transition, sometimes people just
Speaker 1: don't understand you know what I'm saying. They didn't, But
Speaker 1: you gotta let the only thing that would stop you
Speaker 1: is your ego. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's
Speaker 1: just your ego that would stop you from like doing
Speaker 1: that ship to be able to like pivot. So I
Speaker 1: you know, it was part of it that felt a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable, But the part that made me feel comfortable
Speaker 1: was that, wait a minute, I worked for myself. I'm
Speaker 1: only here to the Nori because I want to populate
Speaker 1: the violet to site with content. That's the only reason
Speaker 1: why I went. I was it was I was doing
Speaker 1: in the varley to say so I wanted to have,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be able to what we do
Speaker 1: on Instagram was what I was trying to do with violence,
Speaker 1: you know, to just be like put up new images
Speaker 1: and like sell stories like oh this person was doing this,
Speaker 1: you know. Like so it didn't matter to me, like
Speaker 1: go and walk around with my camera ship. My camera's
Speaker 1: excessive this you know where Where's where's James Flix? Fix?
Speaker 1: You got my homemade dream Flix. He's one of my producers.
Speaker 1: He was an NC and now he's a photographer for Dad.
Speaker 1: I was there that night when you had the camera.
Speaker 1: Who you are? I know you you made me a drink.
Speaker 1: That's my brother, right brother? You know it was photographer.
Speaker 1: To which camera do you have with you? I got
Speaker 1: the sony, so what I'm doing, But I just gotta
Speaker 1: gotta fool you want to thank you for speaking Chinese?
Speaker 1: I got I got the this is the like monochrome,
Speaker 1: the new one, the monochroone. Check it out. I got
Speaker 1: the iPhone. I got the phone. No, man's that's about though. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be in with you. Guys though, bro,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this. And how about how about
Speaker 1: your relationship with Cavras. I know we spoke on it
Speaker 1: a little bit lightly earlier. Now we're we're good. We
Speaker 1: don't really see each other that often though, you know,
Speaker 1: like his Chris never really had a cell phone, like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't do a cell phone things. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I wanted to talk to you about that.
Speaker 1: Um stop. He still gets on the boat and ship
Speaker 1: like that. Last time I've seen you. You saw what
Speaker 1: happened when he did drink Champs. Everybody knows this or no,
Speaker 1: nobody knows this story. He did drink Champs. There was
Speaker 1: a controversy that happened when he did drink Champs. You
Speaker 1: gotta explain the boat. He in the boat along boat, right,
Speaker 1: So he didn't see the controversy, didn't He couldn't react
Speaker 1: to it until like a week later because of the
Speaker 1: boat riding. Two weeks later. Two weeks later, it was
Speaker 1: like three weeks later. Yeah, yeah, man, Yeah, he's like, um,
Speaker 1: I think somebody got to tell him, like, planes are
Speaker 1: safer than they used to be. They used to be.
Speaker 1: Joe didn't used to take planes either, though, Yeah Joe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe would not get on a plane. Joe was on
Speaker 1: He's lefting right now, He's left it right on the planes. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, bro, not but caress I'm you know, look
Speaker 1: I said early. I hope he's proud of like what happened, man,
Speaker 1: Like I am a product of BDP, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, You're yeah, you're they're prodigy for sure. What happened,
Speaker 1: This happened for my crew, you know, like this is
Speaker 1: some dope ship when you really look back at the
Speaker 1: history of it. I spotted with them. It started there
Speaker 1: and that same dude, that same dude that started with
Speaker 1: them ended up playing in the White House, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like this it's just a dope story, man,
Speaker 1: It's a dope story. Yeah, I can't wait to like
Speaker 1: properly tell my story one day, you know, like because
Speaker 1: people should know the ups and downs, like that's where
Speaker 1: the inspiration comes from. The inspiration comes from from like
Speaker 1: never giving up and always believe in yourself. Not not
Speaker 1: to sound appreciate it, but that's really a story right there.
Speaker 1: That's the story, you know, is that already in the
Speaker 1: already thinking that like the book and like the documentary.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it already. So I've already had book
Speaker 1: deal offers, but this was before COVID. I never took
Speaker 1: the deals because I didn't feel like my story was
Speaker 1: there yet. This is what I'm saying, Like knowing yourself, bro,
Speaker 1: I just felt like, not, okay, yeah, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it from the Bronx and you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: made a lot of records and sell records, and you know,
Speaker 1: I lost everything, and then I came back to the
Speaker 1: web developer and photographer and the DJ and then our
Speaker 1: DJ and the White House and all of this ship.
Speaker 1: I still didn't feel like the story was there because
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Those weren't my things. The only thing that
Speaker 1: was mine with my records other than that, I was
Speaker 1: building ship for other people. It wasn't until this hit
Speaker 1: where it was like, my story is here now because
Speaker 1: what I didn't fucking like really did contribute to inspiring
Speaker 1: the world. So like now I feel now my story
Speaker 1: is there, Like now I'm excited to tell a story.
Speaker 1: Like And what's what's ill about the I G stuff
Speaker 1: is that itself produced. True, Like nobody produced it for you. No,
Speaker 1: no club promoter promoted it. It's just self produced. And
Speaker 1: that's what's so dope about it. I didn't even think
Speaker 1: about it from that perspective. But you're right, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got your daughted a product of credit, right, because I
Speaker 1: think she was the one telling you who was doing it.
Speaker 1: My daughter. I know my daughter was. She was because
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know why I wasn't. What
Speaker 1: didn't think of this? You know, early on I used
Speaker 1: to I would stream from my iPhone. So if you
Speaker 1: have your phone, you know I'm forty nine. So clearly, clearly,
Speaker 1: my my vision is in the you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I'm blind, don't worry turning forty five on Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't you turn out? Yeah I couldn't see the comments.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like I couldn't see anything.
Speaker 1: So my daughter with text me to my iPad, like dad,
Speaker 1: so nor reason there and this is in there. Like
Speaker 1: she was just telling me all of the people. And
Speaker 1: then I had to tell I was like, babe, tell
Speaker 1: me some regular names too, like because I wanted to
Speaker 1: feel good. So you want here Tom and John. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she did shoot me over names like but like now
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like my ship is all I used.
Speaker 1: I use the iPad, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you got like movie lights in that motherfucker, like old
Speaker 1: school movie lights. That's my ceiling. That's my ceiling. Oh
Speaker 1: you got to lie from Casa Blanca. You know that
Speaker 1: ship was more decorative. That's decorative. Baby. You know when
Speaker 1: you get a little bit of money, you do you
Speaker 1: buy dumps. It's not even functional. Oh man, no, this
Speaker 1: is fun. Man. I appreciate you guys. Bro Man, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Bro. I can't even I appreciate you. Bro. No,
Speaker 1: man really really really bottomed from my heart man, like
Speaker 1: it couldn't have happened to any better person. Absolutely, um,
Speaker 1: you are absolutely, hands down one of the most genuine
Speaker 1: humble you. You taught me so much because I watched
Speaker 1: you transition from a position from a career to a
Speaker 1: career and to a to a different thing. Maintain exactly
Speaker 1: who you are, maintain the integrity, and I admire that,
Speaker 1: and I look up to that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's why I seen me. I've seen you and um
Speaker 1: shot and uh what was it? Noble? No, but that's
Speaker 1: by the way, that's one of my favorite restaurants in
Speaker 1: the whold planet. Uh, Noble. And I see y'all there
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I want you on drink.
Speaker 1: Chance was like and he was kicking it. But you know, um,
Speaker 1: getting back to the mad at hand. When I've seen
Speaker 1: the explosion and I've seen everything that happened, I couldn't
Speaker 1: everyone from ear Finns for everyone. We were just texting
Speaker 1: each other and just was just so happy, just happy man.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm old enough from forty two. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: old enough to remember when it was Eric b and
Speaker 1: Rock Kim. I'm old enough to remember with the DJ
Speaker 1: actually came before the artist and it was because of
Speaker 1: that very moment. It reminded reminded me of that. You
Speaker 1: know what artists can go up go up for. You
Speaker 1: know about half an hour, you know, forty five minutes
Speaker 1: and just rock their own records. After that, we gotta
Speaker 1: say goodbye. You was out there six seven hours, not no, no,
Speaker 1: nine dude, half a day. I was not. I was
Speaker 1: just playing music. I'm like, Yo, this is Jesus Christmas.
Speaker 1: You know we don't play nine hours. Man, No, that's
Speaker 1: not the normal. I said, you got the hunchback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my hunchback from DJ and the club back
Speaker 1: in the days. Yeah. I'm over here struggling right now.
Speaker 1: I'm like the entire time we're talking, I got my
Speaker 1: eye on this joint right here. Put this on. Well,
Speaker 1: I got one of those two. Yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: massager joint. Looking at you at the crab, I'm like this,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, let me tell you what's dope. What's
Speaker 1: dope about everything you've done and all everything that's come
Speaker 1: with it is that you didn't keep it to yourself.
Speaker 1: You put on you put on the ladies, yet you
Speaker 1: put on your your crew, the originals, the originals. I
Speaker 1: respected that stretch on strong likes so dope, man um,
Speaker 1: can't Tony touch I'm strong the thing, you know, like, man,
Speaker 1: I never I just wanted to be that person that
Speaker 1: I wish someone else was for me back in the
Speaker 1: day and not have to say that they weren't. Because
Speaker 1: Caress and Scott like you know, guys took a kid
Speaker 1: that really didn't know anything about music and gave me
Speaker 1: a career, gave me a life, you know. Like so
Speaker 1: so like yo, I get on, Like yeah, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to look out for your boys. Like now we got
Speaker 1: a platform. You know, before we had, you know, under
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand people. Now it's like two point four
Speaker 1: million people. Like why not put your crew on? Like yo,
Speaker 1: like let them know who this person is or you know.
Speaker 1: Somebody was like, yo, you should do one for all
Speaker 1: ladies and I was like, Yo, you know what, that's
Speaker 1: actually dope, Dobe do it. And then I was talking
Speaker 1: to my boy we worked together with Chappelle. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, why don't you why don't you play
Speaker 1: jazz on my joint? Like use the full band because
Speaker 1: he was getting like forty five people in his in
Speaker 1: his I G Live And I'm like, yo, get at
Speaker 1: least a couple of thousands if you come on this joint,
Speaker 1: like consistently had like eight thousand people in there just
Speaker 1: listening to play Jack and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm doing is like programmingization now, you know,
Speaker 1: like and that's how I'm kind of treated, like you know,
Speaker 1: I like to play my music. But there's a future
Speaker 1: in that right there, right you know, like hey listen,
Speaker 1: gon to be a new business. I'm about the pivot again.
Speaker 1: The constant chairs to Chrislity to man miss I mean
Speaker 1: I miss him so much? Man? You are you under management? Now?
Speaker 1: Is there anybody I see? You? Know what I've seen
Speaker 1: you in the rock Nation? I'm not rock Nation? Um?
Speaker 1: What was it the other day? It was tas Oh
Speaker 1: yeah birthday? No? No, no, I'm self managed. I've always
Speaker 1: been managed by my company brand nice you know, like
Speaker 1: assistance that work with me. I'm never gonna be managed
Speaker 1: by anyone. I have no desire to do that. I
Speaker 1: have the desire to build my business. Like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're I I'll be fifty. I can't I can't
Speaker 1: be to do be like, yeah, what are you thinking
Speaker 1: about this deal? Like you already know what you want
Speaker 1: to deal? Yeah? I already know, Like, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: what I want. So that's not if I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get what I want or close to it, then I
Speaker 1: shouldn't do the deal, Like you can't convinced me to
Speaker 1: do that, you know, like and and no manager, And
Speaker 1: first of all, a manager would have told me to
Speaker 1: stop DJ online. You just get the check out and
Speaker 1: been like, yo, you don't even do it anymore. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be oversaturated, you know. You know what ended up happening.
Speaker 1: I ended up with another million followers, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, so then that automatically changes all the
Speaker 1: rates anyway. And I never charged anyone for anything. I
Speaker 1: just did what I loved and I followed my instincts,
Speaker 1: you know, Like when quarantine is over, the silver lining
Speaker 1: is that I know that I'll be remembered for doing
Speaker 1: something good for people. And I know that I can
Speaker 1: walk away from this knowing that I did this ship
Speaker 1: for my heart, you know what I mean? Like like
Speaker 1: like I know that, like there's nothing I can smile
Speaker 1: when this is all over, Like and yo, like the people,
Speaker 1: you know, I read comments to people posting, like you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people post some slick stuff, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away from this feeling like I'm extremely
Speaker 1: proud that I did not sacrifice myself. I didn't shoot
Speaker 1: on anyone. I don't speak badly about anyone. And you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't I go on to
Speaker 1: other people's eye g s. I would leave a comment
Speaker 1: just because I know people will say something like Yo,
Speaker 1: nice in here. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'll
Speaker 1: put other days into my joint. I do all of that.
Speaker 1: I will afford people like you know, I'm done for
Speaker 1: the day, like today, I did a quick set earlier.
Speaker 1: As soon as I was done, I knew Maco it
Speaker 1: was in there, and like, Yo, make sure you're rocking,
Speaker 1: like yo, So everybody, Yo, you should go to support Maco.
Speaker 1: Shut out day La Soul may see. Oh yeah, So
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, that's that's I like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I like knowing when when this
Speaker 1: is all over, Like Yo, be like I did what
Speaker 1: I could from my from for my hip hop people
Speaker 1: and just for people in don't roll to keep people inspired. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I'm grateful to have the opportunity to do so. Yo. Salute, salute,
Speaker 1: salute man, Salute man. Man. Once again, this is not
Speaker 1: like the officially one. This is you know now you
Speaker 1: have to join us, don't don't. Don't play with us. Man,
Speaker 1: come to Miami when it's all over and join you.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, wait, I was like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to hit up, being like hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: Then I was like yo, why, I was like, why
Speaker 1: are we being bros? Like? Who are we doing? I
Speaker 1: wish you could do when you came out here, because
Speaker 1: we could have did a great social distance with masks
Speaker 1: that still did it in person. But don't worry, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a legit dream Chance. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: ship faced. You're gonna get ship faced. I'll drink Chance,
Speaker 1: and we want to we want to tech. So hold
Speaker 1: on here, give me, give me one more minute. I
Speaker 1: gotta say little people. Yo. Okay, So look now that
Speaker 1: you said that you produced self destruction, give us give
Speaker 1: us a story from that whole recording session. Damn anything
Speaker 1: interesting with self self destruction? I mean, were you there
Speaker 1: during the whole product, the whole recording of that. The
Speaker 1: only thing I wasn't there for was for Public Enemy.
Speaker 1: They they sent the two I'm about to ask you about,
Speaker 1: to be specifically about Heavy D. Yeah, I was there
Speaker 1: for head. I was there like the first day was
Speaker 1: everyone was in there though, you know the first day
Speaker 1: like everybody came to that session. Yeah, we when we
Speaker 1: first started working on it, like we were at Chunking studios,
Speaker 1: you know, like L was there because l I was
Speaker 1: writing Light's part, you know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 1: was just we haven't compete doing. But why wasn't L
Speaker 1: on it? I don't know. I mean he wrote he
Speaker 1: lights Ryan, Yeah, he wrote my girl then get comfortable
Speaker 1: DJ life bro. Yeah, listen, we got I got it
Speaker 1: at the crib? What what is? What is? What does
Speaker 1: your bridge dues by'all identify with that? This is not ship?
Speaker 1: You can buy a ship nine all right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it don't look for exactly you need this man. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that ship, that ship. If you can't go to Masseus,
Speaker 1: that ship got you. I got some other ship that
Speaker 1: goes the roller. That's that rich dude ship you got
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, so Nori listen he said that self destruction.
Speaker 1: Almost all of it was one session. That's crazy. Not
Speaker 1: all know like it hap it started in like one session.
Speaker 1: That's bana. Just to think about all those I mean
Speaker 1: I know that right now. It's difficult to think about
Speaker 1: all artists in a studio together, but to think about
Speaker 1: those iconic Let's Dairy artists all in that studio doing
Speaker 1: that record is crazy. Man. Yeah, but we weren't iconic
Speaker 1: then though, you know, I don't care, don't don't ruin
Speaker 1: my my vision of this right now. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: we weren't iconic then. You know, this is really feel
Speaker 1: like I got some like let's like you got a
Speaker 1: boat constrictor around your neck right now, just like I'm
Speaker 1: like a Diddy's mansion. I got somebody handling this one.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to or a drinking. That was my
Speaker 1: other question, what's your most um awkward? This party like
Speaker 1: a party of ever just awkward? You just got you
Speaker 1: went to DJ and the ship was just probably just
Speaker 1: sh I forgot. I don't even have one, honestly, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if any awkward parties. Man,
Speaker 1: I forget. I had a party one time, I forget
Speaker 1: what was like one of these guys that holds I
Speaker 1: think it was Johnny Carson or one of them guy's sons,
Speaker 1: And it was like just crazy. It was a balloon party.
Speaker 1: So we went in it was just never experienced like that.
Speaker 1: I'm creaking Crystal and it just loves everywhere and I
Speaker 1: just it was like that was a little walker for me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy. And I've never had one of the
Speaker 1: party with Johnny Carson, so like I think it's Johnny
Speaker 1: Carson's son. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: not damn. I'm yeah. I've never had anything weird, man,
Speaker 1: I really listen, I don't. My DJ career has been outstanding. Bro.
Speaker 1: You like festivals the South bast Southwest as you like that.
Speaker 1: My sneakers always get messed up every time I go
Speaker 1: to it. Like that's like like the festival. I just
Speaker 1: like watching people dance, man, you know, like having watching
Speaker 1: people have a good time and really like and just
Speaker 1: celebrate music. You know, I can't wait for this to
Speaker 1: be over because I want to hit the stage, you know.
Speaker 1: Like my gold morning Man is like our goal is
Speaker 1: to play the Hollywood Bowl mm hmmm, because it's an
Speaker 1: outdoor space. And I feel like during this time of COVID,
Speaker 1: people have gotten closer to their families, Like people listening
Speaker 1: to my music with their families. People put on the systems,
Speaker 1: play the same music with their kids, and they'll send
Speaker 1: me images and videos dancing with their kids. So it's
Speaker 1: like I need to be that type of person that
Speaker 1: would be playing amphitheaters, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: instead of like worried about like nightclubs, I'm playing amphitheaters
Speaker 1: and people are coming out with their families, you know,
Speaker 1: and like so as soon as I said that, like
Speaker 1: you know, now Rogers from she hit me like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you really want to do Hollywood Bowl? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want Hollywood Ball. I want you, I want Chic.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeo, I just want to Holly Ball.
Speaker 1: I forget didn't didn't mirrors or somebody through festival how
Speaker 1: to be a ball? Oh? I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: so not sure for guy, but yeah, it's like outdoors,
Speaker 1: people come with their wine, Like that's the kind of
Speaker 1: vibe I see drinking your wine. Like yo, yeah tonight,
Speaker 1: I'm on a spade. What is a spade? That? Okay,
Speaker 1: tonight I'm on a spad. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hopefully hold watching this, you know what I'm saying, We
Speaker 1: keeping it, keeping it, keeping it, yeah, and just in case,
Speaker 1: you know, we know, did he watch it too. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'll keep you the humbers
Speaker 1: they're watching too, I'll keeping it in house. Look look, okay,
Speaker 1: little we gotta do say two got I was trying
Speaker 1: not to mix. Man, you know I started started drinking dark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been drinking water. That's why I've been drinking water
Speaker 1: on goddamn day. But when we said we got you
Speaker 1: on here, I said, man, we gotta we got Donely
Speaker 1: on too. Just in Jays did he look Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: look here, don't okay? Hold on? So life life, life
Speaker 1: as a new d nice is it is there because
Speaker 1: there's people who only know me from being podcasting, right
Speaker 1: there's people that only like I remember how to show
Speaker 1: in San Francisco And I'm walking to the stage and
Speaker 1: the kid looks at me like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Why are you going to the stage And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to perform. He's like, you're doing a podcast
Speaker 1: right now. And I'm like no, I'm going to perform.
Speaker 1: And the kid had no idea, you know, r e
Speaker 1: the actual artists. And then I performed and he's like
Speaker 1: those are your songs? Like like I'm like, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: like He's like, oh, ship, there's people who just know
Speaker 1: is there people just to know you from like a
Speaker 1: certain part of your So the funny thing is UM
Speaker 1: one of the clients agencies. She she called me one
Speaker 1: day and she was like, yo, Haneken wants to work
Speaker 1: with you. Oh no, Hankin keeps calling about the rapper
Speaker 1: D Nice, but I keep telling them we only know
Speaker 1: the d J D Knights, and I just felt out.
Speaker 1: Lu I was like, the same person, you should charge
Speaker 1: to different rates. You should be like, yo, I I
Speaker 1: could book you the rapper and the DJ get paid
Speaker 1: twice twice. Their fault, not yours. I was like, Dave,
Speaker 1: I am the rapper D Knights, I just DJ now.
Speaker 1: I used to wrap back the day. She looked at me.
Speaker 1: She was like you, I can't even see it. You're
Speaker 1: a rapper. Oh man, No, it's just there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people just like there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: that rediscovered me. You look to give a million followers
Speaker 1: in a day is insane. I don't have a record out.
Speaker 1: I don't have a record out at all, and then
Speaker 1: one day a million followers is absolutely the most insane thing.
Speaker 1: They were like, we've never seen numbers like bro like that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you could be crazy to put out a
Speaker 1: record now out down. You know the DJ project is coming,
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, yeah, that's something Chris likey. That's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, and you know what the goal would be
Speaker 1: me looking from the outside in to keep that same
Speaker 1: energy and the thing about it is right, sorry to
Speaker 1: be like to break down, but I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: how just how I look at it. To me, DJ
Speaker 1: Camillo is probably one of the best international club DJs
Speaker 1: when every international was in there, I think DJ Camillo
Speaker 1: was one of the best. I think just on a
Speaker 1: party tips. No, there's nobody mess on the radio. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's nobody messing with Flex in the morning time.
Speaker 1: There's nobody messing with dj MB. When it comes to
Speaker 1: global music, there's nobody that can mess with d nights
Speaker 1: Like I like, there's anybody that I could walk into
Speaker 1: the party, You're gonna please them because you have a
Speaker 1: certain niche. You're playing a type of music that the
Speaker 1: hardcore dude is gonna like, the soft person in the
Speaker 1: room is gonna like and like you know, the median
Speaker 1: person is gonna like how did you develop that? Because
Speaker 1: of that story that I shared earlier when the hip
Speaker 1: hop all I wanted to do is play hip hop records,
Speaker 1: and hip hop dudes wouldn't let me in because like
Speaker 1: you know, like the other round, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like the only person even listen. This is not no
Speaker 1: disrespect to the originals, because you know, Clark Kent and
Speaker 1: all those guys are like my best friends, like we
Speaker 1: talk every day. But the first person that ever look
Speaker 1: out for me as a DJ was DJ Scratch. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo when I called him, I was like,
Speaker 1: m D bust a rhyme DJ. Just for anybody who
Speaker 1: doesn't know, yes, yes, so um. He was the first
Speaker 1: person that was like when I called him, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming back on the scene, DJ, and
Speaker 1: I got a little party I'm doing on winds Days.
Speaker 1: That's when you know, back in the day you had
Speaker 1: to like name your ship after like Candy Bars and
Speaker 1: all that ship good and Plenty Fridays and New Days
Speaker 1: and all. So I was like, enjoy Sunday. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I think my ships super Fly Wednesdays photo shot my
Speaker 1: face on like super Fly, Like you know what I
Speaker 1: was like on the super Fly Wednesdays. So Scratch Scratch
Speaker 1: was the first person man and that that hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars that they gave me. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's all I offered him. And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I don't need that, bro, I'm good. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to rock with you. And like he came,
Speaker 1: it was ten people in there. It was in people
Speaker 1: in there, bro like and then and I will never
Speaker 1: forget this. There was a woman that came every week
Speaker 1: to my party with her husband. It was him to
Speaker 1: twenty people every single week. And that woman said to me.
Speaker 1: She she's a professor at m y U. Her husband's
Speaker 1: a firefighter. And she said to me one day, she
Speaker 1: was like, you know why we come because no matter
Speaker 1: how many people are here, you still look like you're
Speaker 1: having fun. You look like you're having fun and your
Speaker 1: energy is infectious. And I never ever forgot that. So
Speaker 1: even when I'm tired, they're nice. When I'm dead tired,
Speaker 1: I don't eve want a DJ like I didn't even
Speaker 1: want to play last night. I got on it like
Speaker 1: midnight out here because one of my friends, she's super dope.
Speaker 1: She's been guiding me through this whole process. Of like
Speaker 1: you know, social media and handling, you know. And she
Speaker 1: was just like she brought up like Chico the bars
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I've never even played a
Speaker 1: T Barge record. I think right now, do you do it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: r E album. I gotta go. I gotta revisit that.
Speaker 1: I saw it online just to play. She go on
Speaker 1: to bars like eight thousands people in there. I'm like, damn, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting on in a minute. It was
Speaker 1: we're done with this, I'm doing. You don't do an
Speaker 1: after party? Well, drenk chance, that's a party with d night.
Speaker 1: We words and the words of what's the guy? Forget
Speaker 1: the guys. But if you got the juice now, buddy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you ain't never yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be like I said, you know. Um, I
Speaker 1: started this interview off with with with uh saying with
Speaker 1: me and fact Joe say on the side, and we
Speaker 1: was like like you know, when we when we just
Speaker 1: built like you know what I mean, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's any DJ that can be able to
Speaker 1: get like a million dollars show like this one show
Speaker 1: a million we played and hope that it's you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, got that getting keep getting it.
Speaker 1: It's you. I don't even not hope it's you. It's you.
Speaker 1: And like like I said, Man, we could go on
Speaker 1: the arm for hours and days and days. I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you, man, but time you appreciate and
Speaker 1: staying who you are and holding down our culture. And
Speaker 1: you know, besides, you know me as as as Nori
Speaker 1: uh the artist and e f n of the artist,
Speaker 1: you know, as a person, I was. I lived to
Speaker 1: these moments and you're getting on there and just jamming
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. And like you know,
Speaker 1: we were really stuck in. He was taking this serious
Speaker 1: as every other American should as well. We were taking
Speaker 1: this very very serious. And um, you kept us alive, man,
Speaker 1: you said, you sincerely did man and do the music
Speaker 1: and you you just you heal the country, bro, That's
Speaker 1: basically what you've been doing. You help. Like I heard
Speaker 1: a person, I heard a person, you know when that
Speaker 1: person say um, such in the house, and then they'd
Speaker 1: be like such in the building, and then some such.
Speaker 1: I've never heard somebody to say such such in the
Speaker 1: planning like you were in the planet dude, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know what his party. I know his party next
Speaker 1: to a nigga in Moscow, like I smelling people under arms.
Speaker 1: I knew that, wo, Like I want to put it
Speaker 1: from because because your party, brother, and you love you man,
Speaker 1: drink chats forever and we look forward to you being
Speaker 1: here with us in person. Ye man, Man, seriously, thank
Speaker 1: you for following up, brom. Appreciate you. Peace. I killed
Speaker 1: that with us right now. Look at you, But like
Speaker 1: you already to, You're not my guy. You're not my
Speaker 1: freaking dad. Are you talking to me like that? Bro?
Speaker 1: Who are you? Yo? Yeah? Drop John, Okay, we're gonna recap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it. You know what's going on? Man, that
Speaker 1: was a great one, bro, Yo. We had fucking we
Speaker 1: had Guilly the kid. The kid, Okay, let me just
Speaker 1: punt it out there. Came through the last minute. Were
Speaker 1: supposed to have a different guest. We're not gonna say that.
Speaker 1: A huge guest, huge guest, and it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: diminish his huge doesn't diminish it because you know, Silly
Speaker 1: is right there out there busting the ask doing this
Speaker 1: goddamn thing. Yeah, yeah, you know and pause. And we
Speaker 1: had the legendary d j D. Nice Man, legendary Rappid.
Speaker 1: You know, I got hyped. I washoographer. That was extremely hype. Um,
Speaker 1: you know so much hips to be there man, from
Speaker 1: BDP to wherever you want to go with it. Guys crazy,
Speaker 1: he told us that he produced self destruction. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm not hip hop. I don't I didn't know that. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I still feel hip hop, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I feel my hip hop card. And I
Speaker 1: gave it back to myself. I took it away back
Speaker 1: and get right back to my stuff and get back
Speaker 1: to yourself. In the morning, you're back to night. Put it,
Speaker 1: put it verry be at and then you go back
Speaker 1: to the morning. It was it was ethic, man, it
Speaker 1: was the nicest is like, well, people don't understand. It's
Speaker 1: like he is, He's out of here. You know what.
Speaker 1: Let's just say this. Both of those brothers man, you know,
Speaker 1: Gilly and d Knights, two humble brothers that has had
Speaker 1: a chance to come to the fourth transcend. Gilly, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Um was out there being a wrap up
Speaker 1: and then you know, had a little dry spell and
Speaker 1: then look Flora's to the front. D Knights told you
Speaker 1: about his little dry sprout looking at it flooras to
Speaker 1: the front. And we were happy to to to support
Speaker 1: them in the beginning, in the middle, and and and
Speaker 1: and and I don't never start. Uh, We'll never stop supporting.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's exactly what we do. Man. So
Speaker 1: God damn it, man, I'm gonna finish this and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna spray my crib down because us and opened the windows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got boars he's dirty, man boards dirty right now.
Speaker 1: Jesus salute man. Another great show man Champs, expect your
Speaker 1: what are you expecting? Bro? Twins? So yeah, leave me alone.
Speaker 1: I think it's three of them. Get out of my face.
Speaker 1: I love you. Study Thanks for joining us for another
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