1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: And his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper, 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: He's Segre is your boy in O R E. He's 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d J e f N. 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: one sorts for drunk drink Chas motherfuckings New year' z 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: that it's time for drink Champ trick up mother mother? 8 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Would it good? Be hoping he would have to me, 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: this is your boy in r what up is d 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: J e f N? And this Drink Chance motherfucking podcast 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: makes something quarantine chaps, Quarantine champs right right now. I 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: knew this guy right now twenty years man. I can't 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: be proud of what he doing, what he accomplished him 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: and as I believe it's his cousin Willow, you know 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: what I mean represented for Philadelphia. It's by the time 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia got got it on the map for It's like 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like only at one time 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: for something from Philly could be happening. It's like, you know, 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: you got the bed wave, you got the state property 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: wave and then you know, and then you hear to 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: meet many ways and now you got the motherfucking million 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: dollar podcast. Look Anni, First of all, Man, I want 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: to tell you thank you man. You was the first 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: person to put me on your podcast. I didn't even 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: know what the podcast was. I was like, just come up, 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk some ship, right, you know. Yeah, So really, 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: I man, I commend you all man for showing us 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: the way man that you know, you really get some 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: money out of this ship because we didn't really truly 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: understand it. But now we just understand that y'all was 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: really ahead of the curve man years in advance, man, 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: and we was out there slipping and ship. So so 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: what was what was what was the decision for you? 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Don't even just to start it, like you know what 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, um, well, you know since I since 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: I started giving out million, I was with a game 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: back in twelve and ship people always, even before Wilt 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: came home, people always used to be like, you need 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: a podcast, Gilly, you need a podcast, You need a 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: podcast all the time. But I didn't know what that 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: ship was and I did yours, but I still didn't 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: understand how you get money from this ship, you know 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: what I'm like. And then a post came across my 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: page that said Spotify allocates four hundred and twenty one 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: million dollars towards podcasts last year, and I was like, Nigo, 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: what that's all you needed to see? That's all I 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: needed to break them fucking mics out. Now let's get 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: this ship popping. And the months we had a deal, right, 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: so um um for for people that because I know 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: that Joe um he had spoke on this a little 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: bit me and you spoke on it off the air, 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: I believe there was somebody that started the podcast with 53 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: y'all y're not yeah, yeah, yeah, what happens just so 54 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: our viewers can know and no one can have a 55 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: dispricacy of what's going on. Whatever was with me a 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: while I was this out of the start of podcast right, 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: So uh, this guy had a facility that he shot 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: podcasts out like a podcast studio studio. So it was like, okay, 59 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: so we came in. You know, basically, how much you 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: want a month to shoot your podet to shoot the 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: podcast here gave us a number. Okay, we pay him. 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: He was doing our sound. If you go to the 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: first episodes. He wasn't on the episodes he was he was, 64 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: he was he record our sound you feel what I'm 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: saying and yeah, and then after the after the show, 66 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: he put a little mix on it and then he 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: sent it to somebody that's gonna uploaded the bus route 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: for us feel what I'm saying. And about episode five, 69 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: maybe the cameraman came in and set a microphone in 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: front of him. Me and Whilo looked at each other. 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: But from time to time we might say yes or no, 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Dav and he'd like, I gotta agree with Gilly, but 73 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: he'd be off camera, you feel what I'm saying. But 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: this time he put the camera in front of like 75 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: he wanted to be a part of the mic on them. Yeah, 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: he put a camera in front of him, so he 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: put a camera to in front of the camera man, 78 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't the camera and the camera guy came in 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: and put the camera and looked, you know, and then 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: we let it live. So what from You're not really 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: talking at first, you just saying yeah, I believe, yeah, 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: I feel like wild until you started talking more. And 83 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: then then you started talking more. And then when we 84 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: did the baron to deal with Barstool. We went to him. 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: We offered him a certain amount of money, like, here 86 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: you go, you were ninety six hours a week. He 87 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: goes x amount of money for the year. You feel 88 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, This still don't come in between what 89 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: you got going on, because it's only ninety six hours 90 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: out of the week. One hour, you you're talking for 91 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: an hour and then you're mixing ship down for twenty minutes, 92 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and then you're sending it over m And for some 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: reason he thought he deserved fifteen percent of my company 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, what right. So, you know, that's 95 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: how they went because I explained that people like you know, um, 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't understand that you guys 97 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: to start something, you know, grassroots where it's just it's 98 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: just everybody that's down for it, and then, uh, a 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: situation like this could occur. How can people avoid that 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: in future references? Well, at the end of the day, 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when everything everybody else 102 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: that we had on the team is happy to feel 103 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's just that a lot of 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: times you cannot let people that's around you get in 105 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: your fucking head. You feel what I'm saying and get 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: in your mind. And because one of the comments and 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: motherfucker made was in order for me to know how 108 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: much I'm supposed to make, I need to know how 109 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: much you make it. Wow, h I don't even sound 110 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: right in any kind of way. And my response was, Okay, 111 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: when you came on board, you had six thousand followers, right, 112 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: I had one million followers, So do me a favor. 113 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Give divide six and the one million and was about 114 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: eighty something. That's how much you want making than your 115 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: goofy has eighties. Sometimes I'm talking about right, but did 116 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: you see this coming? Because no, wait but wait no, 117 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: just to be clear, because I think that sometimes when 118 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: you're saying the follower thing, someone might get confused and say, oh, 119 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe this person they think they the celebrity 120 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: there is that. I think it's just easy, like this 121 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: is your podcast, you started the podcast. He was hired 122 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: help like you. You was renting studio. Like if it's 123 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: like if a studio you go to says oh I 124 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: own your music now, now I rented the studio and 125 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: you got an engineer, and that's what it is, you 126 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: know absolutely, then then then any time we got did 127 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: live shows, he got paid for live ships. You feel 128 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for us it was like this 129 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: is this is not even something to think about, Like 130 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying, Like, this is not this 131 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: is this is easy mathematics, bro like. But he didn't 132 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: see it that way, you know, so it was like, okay, cool. 133 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: You know people get fired every day. It ain't no 134 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: ain't no hardst feelings or nothing. You know what I'm saying, 135 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: That's just a part of life. See. See what people 136 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: don't understand is well, our podcast is not just driven 137 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: off Our podcast is drilling is driven off our social media. 138 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: You know, if we do on social media as well, 139 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: Like this means that orthor Game has his own following, 140 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: has his own following. And even what you're saying right now, 141 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: right right, Like I know, I know motherfucker's have never 142 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: met you before and they liked and they'd be like right, 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: and I'll just be looking at them like yeah, it 144 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: was your personality already on social media doing it before 145 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: you was doing a podcast. Absolutely so, men, And that 146 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: was in the podcast is just a spin off from 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: me giving out game on my Instagram. That's why it 148 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: took all so fast because it wasn't something that needed 149 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: to be built up. You had to get used to 150 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: the name. You know, you've seen it every day every 151 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: day you woke up. I was giving you some game 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: and and the people was demanding it. You need a podcast. 153 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: We needed to. The spin off from it was so easy. 154 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: It was easy to adapt. Right now, have y'all during quarantine. 155 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: I see y'all recording. You're still recording, right, y'all facing 156 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: with it. Y'all didn't do this zoom ship we're doing right, No, 157 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: we ain't doing those zoom We told my did you 158 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: better stay away from motherfuck? You know so because Philly Philly, 159 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: did y'all get hit with it hard or not to 160 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: come on the thing? Yeah? Really Jersey though, Yeah, yeah, 161 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: Billy got hit with it too, but Jersey really got 162 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: hit with it. Right now, who's the dude that you 163 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: had on the podcast the other day that Meet mail 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: knocked him bitch down? So that was that was Tony 165 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: X NFL player used to play for the Seattle Seahawks. 166 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: He from Philadelphia and you know, you know, man, niggas 167 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: bitches gett sucked every day. You know, Meek almost trying 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: to deny it though. I don't know if you see 169 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: meet tweets like oh boy girl, but he trying at 170 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: almost Hey WHOA, Well, he definitely know Meek slam dance, 171 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: you know that's for sure. But you know, I respect 172 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he's still listened to me. You know, 173 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: he's a hard like that. They Now, one guy sees 174 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: you kick kicking it with I couldn't tell where it 175 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: was going. I couldn't tell what was happening. I believe 176 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: that's Young Chop. Yeah, now what is your relationship with 177 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Young Chop? I see y'all kicking it and I've seen 178 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: it go far, Like is that for real? All? Is 179 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: he is? He? Is this the internet thing? Because you know, 180 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm forty, I'm forty, you know what I mean, 181 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm a little different. I don't be knowing, you know what? 182 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: Like actually that match Young Chop a few times, and 183 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: you know he always been cool. He always been, you know, 184 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: just a laid back type and Nigga just cool as shit. 185 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: And you know, seeing him on my page and just said, 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: let me tell me all that Chop man real quick. 187 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Who's something NIGGD I had no id was gonna do 188 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I'm saying. So then he 189 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: started talking, you know about Meek Mills, Salt and you know, 190 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: French Montana, and I'm like, and shipped threw me all 191 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: for a minute. I had to say, come on, Chop, 192 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I gotta get y'all off here. Man, you're talking chraz 193 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: now asking asking because you know you're feally you're really 194 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: was six months eight months into into the podcast? How much? 195 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: How long? Uh? A year? Is? Okay? Go congrats? Let 196 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: makes a noise for that, man, I nderstand to it. 197 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: So look, have you ever what's your biggest um um 198 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: discrepancy so far? Like like you ever gotten to drama 199 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: so far? Like anybody ever got mad at you? Anybody like? 200 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, I ain't really never 201 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: had nobody. I don't think it mad at me. You know, 202 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: they might not like something that safe, But you know, 203 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: other than that, I don't really think I get. I 204 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: don't get people mad at me. That's not my objective. 205 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't really talk about people like that. I just 206 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: will give our game that's got its attention, motivation and education. 207 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: You feel they will they will get, they will get madaged. 208 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: Don't worry don't work. Yeah, he definitely definitely put me 209 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: up on that. Now. I thought I thought it was 210 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was dope that um that Joe even 211 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: commented on you guys, right, And I thought that it 212 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: was ill that that that you responded back. But I 213 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: wanted you to know that you're supposed to be talked about, 214 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying when you live in 215 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: this world, like honestly, like if if a person is 216 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: not talking much and this growth that it's Joe's, don't 217 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: you know? And he got a big platform as well, 218 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's enough, you know 219 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: what it is. I know that Joe's a you know, 220 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Joe's a sneaky, tricky type, but fucking like and you know, 221 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I just was on on Live with Joe when we're 222 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: busting it up, and you know one thing, one thing 223 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: about me North, I don't have no problem with salute 224 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: the motherfucking man. You know what I mean. I want 225 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: to salute you. I don't want to shoot you. You 226 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. I want to I want to 227 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: eat with you. Ain't trying to compete with you. You 228 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. Everybody got their own lane. You 229 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: got your lane, He got his lane. I got my lane. 230 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: You know, everybody got their own lane, man. And for me, 231 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: it's like I didn't send Joe a message through through Instagram, 232 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, Preace know, we was on live, was in 233 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: front of my followers, was in front of his followers, 234 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: and I told him and I salute you man, I 235 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: salute noimou salute text to him. Y'all showed me the way. 236 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Y'all showed me that damn you could get some money 237 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: out of this ship because I didn't see it. So 238 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna type of nigga that salutes you. And then 239 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: he turned around and it's like and the thing that 240 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: was most really hurtful is that nothing y'all saying it's real, right. 241 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: So it was like Joe like get the first eighty 242 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: six episodes the DEV was on. I'm like, bro, we 243 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: only on episode sixty, So let me ask you because 244 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: I really wasn't following. Was DEV doing like like like 245 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: interviews with other niggas saying this though, no, uh okay, 246 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: because we couldn't have been on episode eighties six or 247 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: eighty now. It was de like, you know, going to 248 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: do interviews like and just speaking about your situation. Yeah 249 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: he did the interview. Yeah he did an interview speaking 250 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: about our situation. But at the end of the day, 251 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: what they were saying wasn't what that what not even 252 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: what Death was saying. You know what I'm saying. A 253 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: lot of this ship was just like out of left field. 254 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Like so, I'm like, damn, if you're gonna talk about 255 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: a person's situation, at least, dude, at least try to 256 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: try to get some facts, you know. And Rory started 257 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: it off like, you know, if I'm saying something wrong 258 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: that well, if you're saying something wrong that you're not 259 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be saying nothing at all because you don't 260 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: know you feel what I'm saying. So but you know, 261 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I talked to them all. I talked to Rory. Shout 262 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: out to both from my respect, the fact that they 263 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: both reached out to me like men, because at the 264 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, we've grown man, And if you 265 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: could you could, if I, if I, if I, if 266 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: somebody feels though some type of way with me, I'm 267 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,239 Speaker 1: gonna reach out to him. And if they feel disrespected, 268 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: and I see where they're coming from, I have no 269 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: following was saying you know what I see where you're 270 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: coming from. Ro apologize to you for taking it their 271 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: way because I could see how you was how you 272 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: took it that way, but I didn't feel that way. 273 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: That's not how I was saying it. I can respect that. 274 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: We on to see another day, you feel me. Yeah, 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: listen real quick, just based off of you saying that 276 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: you didn't really first see the podcast movement and we was, 277 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: we started doing it, and then you kind of saw 278 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: it when you saw a Spotify deal. I'm trying, like 279 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm analyzing this new Joe Rogan deal. Are you guys 280 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: paying attention to this Joe Rogan deal? What they said 281 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: a hundred millions, but that's not the whole million is 282 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: not what you need to pay attention to. Do You 283 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: know what Spotify made forty eight hours after announcing that deal, 284 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: five billion, five billion dollars. It's a game changer, and 285 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: I think all of us need to take note of 286 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: what that means for all of us in this space. 287 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: To give me plenty five That's what I'm saying. We 288 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: don't need to, We don't need a hundred million or 289 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, we we need to understand what that means 290 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: for our value based on what we're doing. But you 291 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: but talk about your barstool sports what is it? Bar stool? 292 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Bar stool? Absolutely, those are some big dudes. Like how 293 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: did how did these guys even approach you? What was 294 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: going on? Well, a lot of a lot of companies 295 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: was approaching us. You know what I'm saying. Department for 296 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: cutting you off? Y'all was independent at first? Wow, gohead 297 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So we had all the numbers. You 298 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. We charted a week you feel 299 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We on Apple, We got the numbers 300 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: as far as YouTube. You know. So people was coming 301 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: in with barstool, and shout out to Dave and America, man, 302 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: because since we've been there, it ain't been nothing but 303 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: good to us. Man. So shout out to Dave and Erica. 304 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: You know, they came and we sat down and we 305 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: made it happen. It was. It was really quick. It 306 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: didn't take a lot, you know what I'm saying. And 307 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: they've been treating as good ever since. Now. The crazy 308 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: thing is you come from you know feeling you know 309 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, you know, um from backing days, man, 310 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: you had labeled discrepancies and things like that, what what 311 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: what what? What? What do you like more? Do you 312 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: like rapping more? Or do you like what you're doing 313 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: right now? This ship right now? See I love wrapping, right, 314 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: but this ship right yeah, I'm gonna let I mean, 315 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like rapping, like yeah, oh babe, 316 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: this is this is this is a lot less train 317 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: you with someone say that, I'll say that I really 318 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed doing this ship. And you can get 319 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: your point across a little easier. See, rapping, you can 320 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: say something and a person can still misunderstand you, right 321 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: this nigga misunderstanding me. Nigga, I don't like you. If 322 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: I say I don't like you, that's it. I don't 323 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: like Capella. You don't need a producer. Yeah, I don't 324 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: need to get hit the buttons, none of that. I 325 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: don't need it edited up that this chopping fluid and 326 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: then they're good, the dirty version, put a dirty version. Yeah, 327 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: and uh but you know, uh, I can't even say 328 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: I missed the the touring aspect, because we do live 329 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: shows with this ship too, But I missed the the 330 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: recording of that hot record. When you're done and you're 331 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: listening to that motherfucking you know that bitch fire. Yeah, 332 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: I missed that aspect of all right, all right, and 333 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: that's the only thing in hip hop you missed. Like 334 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm making music for being a part of 335 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: music games. Yeah, because this you can't say that's not 336 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: hip hop too. Yeah, but well you know, I still 337 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: be in the studio with a lot out of the 338 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: young and so I still yet a lot of the 339 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: young and ships still keep me up on you know 340 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm I'm always around that. But 341 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: just the recording in the in the they getting the 342 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: fans reaction when you dropped that hot ship, right, yeah, 343 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: because that's what I do it for the fans anybody, 344 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: right You think Philly ever really gets his recognition. No, yeah, 345 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: we all on our way, you know what I mean. 346 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: A lot of artists did a lot as far as 347 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: like not even just music in general Philly. So much 348 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: history from Philly, Jill Scott, Jasmine Sullivan, music sold child routes, 349 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the roots, um My Starts, Will Smith, Sorts, Will Smith, 350 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Teddy Pendergrad, Patty LaBelle Eve. He said, pell Yeah, you know, 351 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: I know my history and a little bit Yeah, there's 352 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot more some of the coming ones too. Arid 353 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: ye be a box from the Homie Louzy, Oh Louzy. 354 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: But I've seen him get a freestyle on at a 355 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: gas station. I was very impressed. I was very impressed. 356 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I like that sat Memphis. Bleek is from Philly. He 357 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: got over lack that sunny go ahead man, so mr 358 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: at least from Philly. So but all right, now, like 359 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: it was like the two parts of the city, right 360 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: uh um when Bleak, I mean Meek and he just 361 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: think over here sucking me up. When Meek and Beans 362 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: got into that. Now you you you you I remember 363 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: my first couple of times coming to Philly. You was 364 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: in the Cypherss that we was romming with, you know 365 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So look you see me from when 366 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: the super Dog was nothing the super Dog came back 367 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: and did you think that that was that was a 368 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: point that divided the city to a certain extent or 369 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the city he was kind of like already divided. I 370 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: don't really think it's divided the city, you know what 371 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean? Because really the people in Philly just gonna 372 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: rock with little they rockwood, you know what I mean? 373 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: I think it just was. I just think it was. 374 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: If you was from the outside looking in, you would 375 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: have looked at it as a bad look for Philly, 376 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But if you was around 377 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: and you know, you know a little bit more than 378 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, you just take it for what it is. 379 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: You know it don't get along, that's what it looks like. 380 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: But with me, I get along with everybody, man, you 381 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I get along. I got a 382 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: beautiful relationship with everybody, from me the Beans too, you know. Cassidy, 383 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Cashy just be on and 384 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: off sometimes, but that's my brother. You know what I'm saying. 385 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean by that. But your 386 00:21:53,960 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: laugh sounds crazy, No, guess just be and he cast 387 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: to say something crazier than we are talking. We're all good, 388 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: so uh but everybody man, even a are av and 389 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: then that's locked up. You know. I was school with them, 390 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So I ain't. I ain't 391 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: really got a problem with nobody, man. I'm good with everybody. 392 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of artists too. I can't name all 393 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: of them, but I'm good with everybody, man. Any any 394 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: new artists on the horizon that we haven't heard of. 395 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: From Philly. He did a new artist in the week. 396 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I mean, what you do with you? Give us a 397 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: couple of them? Shot him out them Santana, reyh. This 398 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: is from all over. Now, this is from Philly. All right, 399 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: just go to stick with Philly because I know you'll 400 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: be posting na from all over. I'll be watching. Yeah, Simpsontana. 401 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: It's a girl named Rocky. Is a kid named zig Money. 402 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: It's a kid named uh, what you ask from me? 403 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: A little muck? Uh? Mac and Cheese, um man. We 404 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of young artists at leaf Board. We 405 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: gotta shout out home you rocking the drink champs? Sure? 406 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: Kay Walker, Kay Walker, Yeah, I love Kate Walker. Uh. Absolutely, 407 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot, man. I might have missed 408 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: a few, but we got a lot of up and 409 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: coming youngest man. So we checked what we're watching for 410 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: them North and you got the Mac and Cheese clothing line. Absolutely, 411 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: my son's that's the girl sons. Yeah. Oh okay, I 412 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: thought that was you and wallow Ship. No, that's my 413 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: let's promote that then, brother, Yeah, that's the that's their name. 414 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: Mac and cheese. Oh yeah, absolutely, they got people think 415 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: they think about to come out in a week called 416 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: ignore wow wow, And a lot of people don't know that, 417 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: like you know, Gilly a hood nigga, Gilly Street Street, 418 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: but Gilly also went to college. Absolutely do niggas that 419 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: bro tell people that I played ball in college, you 420 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Was pretty nice with it, and 421 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: then unfortunately I gotta caught up in some street ship 422 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: and got kicked out. But uh, and that's when I 423 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: started wrapping m And I've seen you hitting the punching 424 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: bag too. You thought you was nice with your ship too. Yeah, 425 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: I was definitely nice, serious, definitely nice with much. Used 426 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: to use the box a little something. You know. I 427 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: ain't my son and ship. You know both both of 428 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: my sons, you know, I make them out. They don't. 429 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: They don't never got a box, but they gotta learn 430 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: how to fight, you know what I'm saying, Because I 431 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: noticed their kids get a different type of confidence when 432 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: they know they know how to throw the man. Absolutely, 433 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: remember me and Mike likely the first time you've Philly. Absolutely, 434 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: and that's for hand to day man, absolutely man. Just 435 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: it was called such for hand to day It was 436 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: a concert down there called sus for Hand to Day yep, 437 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: and everybody was rapping. Then I walked up and started 438 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: spitting for y'all. Absolutely shut the whole ship down, like 439 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, like all right, So back then 440 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: New York we were fittest, but we didn't spit all 441 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: day like we didn't. We didn't just rhyme all day 442 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: like really must have wanted the out. I guess they 443 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: wanted to outdo us, like every time I wrap y 444 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know if 445 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: it was just me or every New York artist. I 446 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: believe it was every New York or something to that 447 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: came there. Really Nigga wanted to get in a sighter 448 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: with you. And they won the battle, but they were 449 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: trying to burn anything down. And I remember Gilly just 450 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: walking in the in the in the spher and just 451 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: I kid you not his word play. He tol like, 452 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: and we didn't hear ship like that. We didn't hear 453 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: like a ball come from here and then you wait, 454 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: you wait, you wait, you wait, and did you match 455 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: that ball that was just the first ball matching with 456 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: the sixth. He was like, oh, like we were funked up. 457 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: We got back in the band, headed back home. Was like, yo, 458 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: sign this nigga media. Mike Lighty got on the phone 459 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: with Chris Lightly and it was I remember this was 460 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: this was this was this was the whole thing they 461 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: wanted to do. You know what I mean? Because you 462 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: told that. Motherfucker's like you remember that right, literally man? 463 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: And then Mike called me up to death jam. That's 464 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: when I battled my son and death jam. I mean, 465 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: tell me if this analogy is wrong for Philly rappers, 466 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it always sounds like the m C 467 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: is a boxer throwing punches. That's the way the rhyme 468 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: sound coming out of his name. His name Rocky eight, 469 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: Rocky Bob Boa from from Philly. Shouldn't even think about 470 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: that part of it. That's made up movie. But yeah, 471 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: but it was from really and be ful Philly. Okay, 472 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: But what were saying before that? Who was saying about 473 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Mike Lighty? So yeah, yeah, Mike song and Mike song battle. Yeah, 474 00:26:53,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: tell us what happened there, motherfucker? So so uh they 475 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: called me up to death jam. I getting there and uh, 476 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: Mike is like, it's findy in there, and it's franchise 477 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: this one. It was a group Greg, Gravy and Queue right. 478 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: So Findy was like, let me hear something. So I 479 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: started spitting. So Findy looking at me crazy, he said, 480 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: let me hear something else. So I spit again, so 481 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: he liked, let me hear something else. Was there a 482 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: nigger named de Kwan in the building with Findy at 483 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: that time? No, because de Koran infended the two most 484 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: corrupt niggas in New York City at the time. Let 485 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: me tell you by yourself. No, No, it was me 486 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: and something just one of one of my homies. So 487 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: as I'm in the middle of wrapping, I think his 488 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: name was Black. They used to be with my sign 489 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: Mike sound manager back in the then. You remember Black, 490 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I think, so I think. So he's walking by the 491 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: door Findy shut me up and screen out best some 492 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: money today? So Black like what Findy like, best some 493 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: money today? I got? I got my man right here right, 494 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: So so Black like all right this whatever? So my 495 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: signe walk up, so Black like he want the best 496 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: of money on on my man right here. So my 497 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: signe looked at me. He says, some slick ship. I say, 498 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: some slick shipped back or you got me fucked up 499 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: or something like that. Right, they're like, okay, as we're 500 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: going to the conference room, Jay and Dame get off 501 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the elevator. They're crazy. Oh oh, y'all gotta be the judges. Okay, 502 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: we're going this from crazy. We battle is the best 503 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: three rounds out of five. And j and Dame came 504 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: in the room too, Yes, right, okay. I had a 505 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: red Iceberg sweat on my sign goes then I go 506 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Findy said that's one and nothing. My god, I go 507 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: find He say that's two to nothing. Go, I go 508 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: Findy said, give me my money, Get me my money. 509 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: He said it's the best to be out of file. 510 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: He said he just three a row, give me my money. 511 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: Then they look at j J said yeah, money in 512 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: the red sweater. He definitely won all three rounds. And 513 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: that's how I went, Wow, your north and my son 514 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: my man, but I cooked this ask that that yo, 515 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: what shout to my son? Let me let me defend 516 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: my song. You're not here. I didn't see that battle, 517 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: but I did see about it when when when Shine 518 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: first got signed, we were all in justice. I'm but 519 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: just was on twenty third Street. I forget what avenue 520 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: it was on, but it was across the street from Cheetahs, 521 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: and I remember um Uh Shane walked in and it 522 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: was like everyone wanted to meet Shane because this nigga 523 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: just got you know, this this million dollar deal and 524 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: a mien out of publishing deal. So we walked over 525 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: and I was a little saucy and I started to rhyme, 526 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, Sean started the rhyme and it 527 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a battle. But then my song walked over there 528 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: and my son just gave me the hood looked like, nigga, 529 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: you already nory nigga relaxed, let me take care of this, 530 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: and that one, you know, he listened to trust me 531 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: I was dead. Trust me I was the That was 532 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: the red trust me done. Yeah, he just that was 533 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: the red yea yea. Trust me I was dead. And 534 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: he said that's what he was going up against. Yeah, 535 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: that's hard. I don't do that. But okay, right after 536 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: shot battle, Yeah, because that's only thing you'd just be shot. Listen, 537 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: six figures of major figures, major figures, you've been sucking 538 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: up six figures? Cool. I was waiting for the major 539 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: figure ship later, but nigger you have to relax, said 540 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: six because Nicks name and Memphis been from Philly. My bad, 541 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: the medicant out of control. Uh, it's all good. Yeah, 542 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: but let's take it back to the major figure days. 543 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: How was that a lot of you know, it was 544 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: good in the beginning when you didn't get no money. 545 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: An soon as you get some money, you know, it's 546 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: seven motherfucker's it's seven Eagles Man who you had a 547 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: live have live Rolex Okay, Well Space and Dutch and myself, 548 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: Dutchess Spade, Well Spade home, Yes, sir, Okay, pick up 549 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: the spade, pick up the Dutch Man absolutely job Rule 550 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: came on the show and said that he had battle 551 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: Dutchess Spade and he cooked them. I can't lie to 552 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: you that Nigga Dutch, which one of which which one 553 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: was home Dutch? He went crazy but Nigga, but he 554 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: beat me in the battle. You know, John was just 555 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: talking ship. I can't, I can't lie to you. This 556 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: thing was on Twitter for six months straight going don't 557 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: tell John. I wanted to tell y'all one. I'm like, yo, 558 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: this is just because that's this is the time where 559 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: people didn't understand what podcast was so they thought when 560 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: John was just talking, he thought that job was disrespecting 561 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: when the job was just he was saying how he 562 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: saw the story. You know what his perspective. His perspective, 563 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: boy was was Dutch. He did not understand that he 564 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: was on the end ofnet going crazy. That's my nigga, Like, uh, 565 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: six months he was going crazy though to my turn 566 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: to do it because everyone thought he was filming in 567 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: New York at first, you know what I mean. And 568 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: we still think that sometimes we knew most of the 569 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: time we traveled, but you know I didn't then right 570 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: after that, we just stuck in Miami. So I was 571 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: telling to come to Miami, and he just wasn't getting 572 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: at the time. But big up the Dutch, Big up 573 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: the spade them dudes. Uh big with Charlie Baltimore's world. 574 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: That isn't that another fully fully people? Yeah, yeah, funny, 575 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: you got, you got, you got some people. Now you 576 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: know what it is? You got what trumps at all 577 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: on no pun intended. It's the Will Smith nigger. It's 578 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: like nobody's gonna catch that nigga, right, like like nobody 579 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna catch like right, nobody for real, right, somebody but 580 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: still yeah, he's still yeah, and we'll will let he 581 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: gave up his property that what is it north side 582 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: of Fility, born and raised the West side? Was he 583 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: ain't got no property out there, no more right, like 584 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: really not a place that you get up and be 585 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go back right like you leave, it's 586 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: going forever going to you get the funk out of 587 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: that any type of one fucking move and then move 588 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: back to Philly. You know they busted in the Skuyt 589 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: just know, and then we'll only want to hear your story. Dog, 590 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: you're fucked up. You don't get an apartment on South Street, 591 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: you know what's on or you gotta be living like 592 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: downtown Center City, like you know the high rises Mike 593 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: calls thirty five hundred or something. But we was we 594 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: seen some nice ship when we was at the Roots picnic. 595 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: If he got around the corner from Esca Bibble's, it's over. Yeah, 596 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: but listen, you'll be living in this should be them 597 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: a million dollars, but it being a hood. Like fucker 598 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: gets shot at the corner, like that's that's the type 599 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: of ship they're building up. These these luxurious and glorious 600 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: fucking crimps, but block down the motherfucker to get shot. 601 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: Tweet called on fight. You know what the funniest ship 602 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: about Philly and South Jersey niggas. Philly and South Jersey 603 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: niggas will get on the run and switch towns like 604 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: they're getting low and it's still a heat though a 605 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: feeling nigging will give here on the run of South Jersey. 606 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: You think it will be on the Philly and they 607 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: low and I'll be like the bag and the nigga's 608 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes away. Man, I was. I just want 609 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: to congratulate you though, my brother. You know what I mean, man, Man, Man, 610 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: you guys are doing a wonderful job. Man ship, I 611 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know, man. I just want to just 612 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: just keep bigging y'all luck man, because like I said, man, 613 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: it's wanting enough money for everybody to be out here. 614 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: When when when um, when I like, I say this 615 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: a couple of times when I was on the block, 616 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: you know there's people that have you know, you know 617 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: better client telling me there's people that had better you know, 618 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: work through me that the people that you know had 619 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: a lot of other things that's better than me. But 620 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: people ain't gonna stay outside as long as me, as 621 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: long as my tax set get off. I don't give 622 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: a funk. Would anybody do down the block, up the block, 623 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: up the river, upstairs, downstairs, in between the stairs, or 624 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: under the stairs. It doesn't matter to me, you know 625 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, So, so what are you smoking 626 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: right now? That that looks like a back A lot 627 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: of money? You're smoking a back Okay, let's just let's 628 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: I see your medical ship because I got a medical 629 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: car too. Yeah, I'm supposed is definitely a backwood. Yes, 630 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: it's back with what kind of but is that? This 631 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: is look like CBD right now? Really? No, this is 632 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: uh cherry diesel, dairy diesel, dairy des like Rys dairy diesel, 633 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: cherry man cherry. I through the same dry I thought 634 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: you have milking it. I said this thing about that 635 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: let milking this week. Who you hey, listen though, NOI 636 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: I smoked that ship, bro, that ship. Get your eyes 637 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: a mini scooge me. You ever thought that the most 638 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: success you were got out of this will be through 639 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: you know, just talking? No, that's crazy, right, that's I'm 640 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: fucking believable man. All right, that's it's like that's to me. 641 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: It's like I get that I got a platform where 642 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: I could say whatever the funk I want? Why speaking mind? Yeah, 643 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: I could just speak my mind, right, no restrictions, Right, 644 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: this is this is beautiful man. That's like the real 645 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: American dream. That's the real Americing man. What was the moment? 646 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Because you know, um, you know what what we'll all 647 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: due expect to everybody out there. There's so many people, 648 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: Like when me and E f N started to do 649 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: this and were doing an interviewing people, there's other people 650 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: that I believe Joe Joe started before us. I believe 651 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: Iced Tea even started before us. I see's the first 652 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: one to do it, to do it. The first rapper 653 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: to ever have a podcast, first rapper, first podcast ever 654 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: hip hop podcast is Peter Rosenberg and Cyper Sound and 655 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: Chuck D. We can't discount him because he had internet radio, 656 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: which is the I don't want that radio. I don't 657 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: want to count you know, it's a pre curse to 658 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: the podcast. I give you precursor, but not podcast, but 659 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: the first podcast for Speer and Rosenberg um hip hop podcast. Yeah. 660 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: Then the first artist, rapper artists to have a podcast, 661 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: with iced tea. Then I believe Joe Joe Button, and 662 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: then I believe comeback, but that he went in a 663 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: hitting the rapper. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying 664 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: hip hop relag but hip hop. You're correct, you are 665 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: totally correct. And there's also like I think it's the 666 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: rail um uh, let's big up. What's the other the 667 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: combat Jack's boy? Um? I forgot his name, Premium Pete yeah, 668 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: because people mattered it in me. But pick up a 669 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: tax Stone, absolutely absolutely tax Stone. So I forgot the 670 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: point I was trying to make. Um, but but what 671 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: I was damn damn what was the point I was 672 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: trying to know what Yeah, goddamn ha ha ha. I 673 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: was trying to make a great point. I totally forgot 674 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: this crazy I'm not drinking when I'm when I'm drinking, 675 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 1: like huh yeah yeah, So so we were not realize 676 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to freestyle. Let's just see if I can't 677 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: go for it, go for it, yeah yeah huh or 678 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: don't yeah, but just talking yeah, yeah, That's where I 679 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: was at. Yeah, thank you, thank you, but just so 680 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: so um so, when was the moment did you actually 681 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: think did you actually knew you had something like, because 682 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: this is the point I was trying to make it 683 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: after we were after we did it and we had 684 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: a couple and we had success with it. A lot 685 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: of people don't know we had did it for like 686 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: eight months for free. We didn't remember, no, and you 687 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: discounted when we was doing on serious sextime too. Yeah, 688 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: that's a that's a totally different I don't think that's different. Man, 689 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: just podcast. I'm just getting just podcast, right, okay, alright, alright, cool? 690 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: But when was the moment Gilly for you when you episode? 691 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: Was it an episode or was it why you recording it, 692 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: or was it the reaction that you said, Yea, I 693 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: got something, I'm ana stick with it. Well, I kind 694 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: of knew that it was gonna transform over from from 695 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: my Instagram because because of the uh, you know, because 696 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: of the hits that I get when I do my 697 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: million I was withro for games Ship, but when we 698 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: dropped the first episode and that motherfucker want up to 699 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: number two in the world behind Joe Rogan, ship, that's huge, 700 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship right, Like what the fuck? Right? Like, 701 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: God damn, we number two in the world right now 702 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: behind Joe Rogan and you know, at the time, you 703 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: won't even I don't even really know what the fun 704 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: is on Apple on Apple podcast, on Apple Podcast, I 705 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: don't really even know what that means. But I'm like, God, damn, 706 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: don't we number two like Ship? You know, I don't 707 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: even know how powerful Joe Rogan is and you just right, 708 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. So right then and there 709 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: I felt like, Okay, we got something right, you know 710 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. And then the numbers that we will 711 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: put out the audio and the video the same day 712 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: and still be still be charting, you know what I'm saying. 713 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: So for us, it was like then we had sponsors, 714 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: and Ship, you know what I'm saying. As an independent, 715 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: we had sponsors because we was able to take our 716 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: numbers and say, look look how many downs we're showing 717 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: the data? Right, Look look look how many deal Your 718 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: bar stood deals an audio and video. Well, our bar 719 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: stool deals are partnership, is it audio and video? Yeah? Yeah, 720 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: okay absolutely. Now let me ask you something now that 721 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, because like you said before, you didn't really 722 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: know was giving it away for free on Instagram. Now 723 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: that you know, are you trying to pay attention to 724 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: the landscape of the business to know what you what 725 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: you're worth, because it's constantly changing. What we're all worth 726 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: absolutely every fucking day is just change. Look, you know 727 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like this Joe Rogan deal, I 728 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: want to everybody understand, like it changes everything for all 729 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: of us, everything, you know. But at the end of 730 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: the day, man, I want to shout out Erica Man 731 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: and Dave O at bar stood man because because they 732 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: got behind y'all. Well was it a lot of companies 733 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: that was trying to get behind us, but you but 734 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: the way that they came was different, you know what 735 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: I mean? And we we really appreciated them for that. 736 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: They wasn't trying to change the content, wasn't you know 737 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, wasn't really just trying to just come 738 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: and take over some ship that we built from the 739 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: ground up. They understood our views. Man. So for any 740 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: any young podcast is out there, who who you need 741 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: a platform and you're doing your thing, man, make sure 742 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: you you look at barstools, Okay, absolutely, well, well you 743 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: know all that now we know, so what's next? What's next? 744 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: You're trying to get in the act in what you're doing. Well, 745 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, I got a movie coming out, a comedy 746 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: and ship in September UM called Gray's App. But we're 747 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: about to start shooting a TV show, you know what 748 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's gonna be super crazy. That's crazy app. 749 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: That's about a place in Philadelphia. There's a street and hilly. Okay, 750 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: that's it's always sunny in Philadelphia's film that? Uh, I 751 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: don't think it was filmed that show. That show was 752 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: never filmed in Philadelphia though, right, No, I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, 753 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: I can tell, I can tell. I can tell Danny 754 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: DeVito you ever watched that show? I knew what you're 755 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: talking about, But I ain't no big fan of this 756 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: that She's kind of funny man. Yeah yeah, but it 757 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: wasn't in Philly, is yeah, yeah, so yeah we put 758 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: him in. What I'm nor What's up? What's up? What's 759 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: going on? What I feel like? I'm feel like I'm gifted. 760 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm in club quarantine right now. The quarantine just kill us. 761 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: We honored right now, Club Quarantine. Bro. I feel cheated 762 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: right now. I don't. I don't get the full on 763 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: drink champ experience. So first off I told you this 764 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: is not official. This is just a prelude to a 765 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: real drink chance. And you too, Gilly, and you too, 766 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: um um, we we're gonna get y'all in real time. 767 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: Let me just say something. Me and Fat Joe was 768 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: having a talk off air, and we were saying, if 769 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: there's any DJ that like, we wanted to make like 770 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: a million dollars one show, like a million dollars just 771 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: every time he comes out, one show. And he was like, 772 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: if this one person that deserves that, this motherfucker deep, 773 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: motherfucker Nice, I'll take that. I'll take that number bigger 774 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: up though I'm not even gonna lie. God damn, I 775 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: see you bossed by Coca Cola and but wise it 776 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: the same day. So so a lot of people don't know, 777 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: right d Let's take it from the beginning, Like you 778 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: one of my favorite records in hip hop. I don't know. 779 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: I know you probably tired of this goddamn story every 780 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: time I tell you that every time I see you. 781 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: But did you would do something? My name is de Nice? 782 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: Was you you would do that? Douce it? And he 783 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: rhymed on its crazy. So so let's take it from 784 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: there to Self Destruction, right, just being a part of 785 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: that movement from then what what what was it? Like? Well, 786 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: I produced that record too, that's my produced Self Destruction. Yeah. 787 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: I produced Self Destruction when I was eighteen, so yeah, 788 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's one of my favorite records. Yeah, 789 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: that's how I ended up rapping on the song because 790 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: that's first record I knew all the lyrics because it 791 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: was on the back of the vinyl. Yea yeah, yeah, yea, 792 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: yeah I did that. I wasn't supposed to produce that record. 793 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: It happened because um well really I was a young kid, 794 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the Bomb Squad, like 795 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: you know Douggie, even though Douggie is my man, Duggie's 796 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: my broth for life, but they really wanted the Bomb 797 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: Squad to produce it, but care Res Squad for me 798 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: the Caress and a woman named an Carly who worth 799 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: the Jive record was like, no, the whole point of 800 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: this is like bomb squads to people who produced Ice 801 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: Cub like that public enemy, yeah, public enemy, but as 802 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: a public enemy's team. Yeah continue, I'm sorry, yeah, so 803 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: um yeah, but they trusted me with that. So even 804 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: on the chorus, like that's me and like two of 805 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: my friends, these two young ladies from back in the day. 806 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: You know, I did the track. It was my whole 807 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: concept to like I arranged everything. That's crazy. I was. 808 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 1: I was eighteen, man, Wow, I was a young kid, 809 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: the young kid doing it. And then how did you 810 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: how as a as an eighteen year old you you 811 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: was already b DP from before that? Yes, I was. 812 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: How old did you get into into b DP at fifteen? Wow? 813 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: He was d J for Chris No, no, no, no, no. 814 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: I didn't even have a role when I so it 815 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: was the story. It was Kenny Parker, Yeah, tell us everything. 816 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't meet Kenny until years later. He 817 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: was Kitty wasn't initially in the group. Kenny was in 818 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: the group. He was more like the BDP crew, not 819 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: not part of like wholead on productions beating products and 820 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: met Carress on it, Scott Lack really solid Caress one 821 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: of myself. They had it before I was involved. And 822 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: Cares lived in the men shelter in the Bronx and 823 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: Scott worked there, and my cousin was a security guard. 824 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: So I brought my cousin some food and then he 825 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: um he was like, yeah, I want to introduce you 826 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: to somebody, and then he took me into Scott's office, 827 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: introduced me to Scott, and Scott eventually introduced me to 828 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: Caress who lived there. Um and that's you know, literally 829 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: like in that moment, that's how I got done with 830 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: the group. Like there was no I didn't do all 831 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: of the battleship the Carorest was doing like nothing. Scott 832 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: just looked at me and was like, yo, I want 833 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: you to be down with my group. Literally like that, 834 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: and you're a kid because they were already older. They 835 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,320 Speaker 1: were like two yeah, so uh but yeah, I know 836 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: it was you know, Dave. The funny thing is I 837 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: was telling Chappelle this story and he was like, oh, 838 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. He just stunned out, like I 839 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: just y'all, I continue you No, It's just it's just 840 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to share the way his mind works, right, 841 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, Dave, you know, he asked 842 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: me how to how to meet Scott Chris. I told him. 843 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I was. I cooked my cousins 844 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: and food and I walked because they the shelter was 845 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: on the on the east side. I lived on the 846 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: west side of the Bronx and you know there were 847 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: no oobers and ship like that back then. And you 848 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: know I was mad bro old Jay, but I have 849 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: o J money though. Now you're gonna get down. But 850 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: so yeah, so I walked like three miles and then Dave, 851 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: Dave stopped me. He was like, yo, you walked three 852 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: miles from your house with food to feed your future. 853 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: Like that's the Deak ship because that's literally what happened. 854 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: I wasn't you know what I'm saying, like you you 855 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: grew up rhumbing and all of that ships. I wasn't rhyming. 856 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: I walked into the situation where it was like, yo, 857 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: I want you to be a part of this. So yeah, 858 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that's a Scotlar Rock story man. So I was 859 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: just lookingna Gilly right and me and him both have 860 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: a similar story meeting. You know, we both started out 861 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: wrapping and then you know we wind up doing this 862 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: other career. You got like three or four like d like, 863 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: I think you can't started out with ducing start, then 864 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: you wrapping all you was rapping and producing pretty much 865 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: the same time. Then you had this whole photography, you 866 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 1: got this whole Yeah, like Rover now photography sing. I 867 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: know I'm skipping, I'm skipping and I'm bouncing around, but 868 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: I remember at one point like I wanted you to 869 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: film my album cover, like you were one of the 870 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: first dudes. Though that's the funny part I got this, Okay. 871 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: So here's the thing about photography. So before photography, I've 872 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: always love photography, but I wasn't photographing anyone. I just 873 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: had a love of photography because I met Gordon Parks 874 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: and he photographed me. They did this whole breakday in 875 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: Harlem with all of the all of the old school 876 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: hip hop dudes for Double XL magazine. So like me 877 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: watching him was like watching this older man and the 878 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: time is probably like you know, and it's like late seventies, 879 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: still passionate about what he was doing. He was still 880 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, his hands was shaking, but he was still shooting. 881 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: Somebody was a little to film. I was like, damn, 882 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: that's I want that kind of life though, you know, 883 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: like when I'm older, I could still do what I 884 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: love and m and uh and so so. But before photography, 885 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: I started a web development company. That's how I actually 886 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: met you. I was doing um I built the violator website. Yeah, 887 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 1: I built the violated website. Chris. Chris was always like 888 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: because I still wanted to wrap, but Chris was like, yo, bro, 889 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: you're you're you're better than that, Like, Yo, you know 890 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: you don't really need to shop demos. You're a smart dude, 891 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: like you can figure this out. So he was like 892 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: always supporting me with all of these other new ventures 893 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: that I was getting into. So when I started building websites, 894 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: he was like, yo, build the build a valley a 895 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: site for me. Then he would you know, he had 896 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: me doing like the online marketing for the gun shoot 897 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: then um then uh I shot. I shot fifties um 898 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: um one of his um reboke campaigns um. And that 899 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: that came about because I went to Chris's wedding when 900 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: he got mat when he was married at the Vaskaya. 901 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: I was there and I really didn't have was like, 902 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't making people like that. So instead 903 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: of like buying a gift, because it was like registered 904 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: a like ABC Carpets if we priced, I walked in there. 905 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: All that was left on the registry was like this 906 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,399 Speaker 1: is nine thousand dollars. I'm like, oh, hell noodd real 907 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: quick though, because I don't want I want to catch 908 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: something real quick like a gem in this is that 909 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: you was you was already m C and he was 910 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: already producing. He was down with the legendary crew BDP 911 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: Downward Violator. Most like I think like, was it hard 912 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: for you to to to to go and like venture 913 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: off and do like web designers and that, because I 914 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: think most people that that are that already were rapping 915 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: their celebrities their mcs, they don't see themselves doing these 916 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: different things like that that are behind the scenes. Like 917 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: was it was it difficult for you? Or was it 918 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: like no, this is natural to me? What what? What? 919 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: The best the best part of the story that I 920 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: left out is that I was considered old school and 921 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: when he was young still, you know, I mean like 922 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: I was considered the old school rapper and they weren't. 923 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: They didn't have any old school shows back then, so 924 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't like like now you can do the Masters 925 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: of the Mic or any of that kind of ship, 926 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, but stop you doing it, just like let 927 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: me stop, let me stop you for one second. I'm 928 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: considered the old school rapper, right and Kanye Rest and 929 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: Rick Ross and push your tea is all older than me. 930 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: How about that? How you like those apples? That's great 931 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: because is older than me. But I'm considered the old 932 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: school guy. Jay is older than me, oler than me, 933 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, these things don't do it, but I'm 934 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: old school. You know that that was that was That 935 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: was a rough ship though, man like to be considered 936 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: old school when when you know, when this ship stopped you, 937 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: nobody was clapping. I was like, yo, how do you 938 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, move on with your life? You know, obviously 939 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: we weren't paper up like the way you make money down, 940 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like ship two, my Max shows, 941 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: I was getting like grant a night. You know what 942 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know, I mean you give a 943 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: math of that. That That sho ain't gonna last that long. Um, 944 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 1: So for like seven years, I really have nothing, no money, nothing, 945 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,919 Speaker 1: you know, thank god, my my, my, you know. Then 946 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: wife at the time, you know, she worked and I 947 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: was still able to not have the passion lead you know, 948 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: like I knew I was gonna be on the suthing. 949 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: But you know, it takes a strong, strong partner to 950 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: be with you to understand that. Um you know, so 951 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: for like seven years, I had nothing, bro, you know 952 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,479 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like trying to figure it out. I'm 953 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: fell in the web development because I just love it's 954 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: some fucking crazy ship. So when I wasn't rapping and 955 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out life, I would always 956 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: be on my computer building like bulletin boards when they 957 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: just had a well, so I was young, just taking 958 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 1: the computer part of building it, and so I always 959 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: had like you know this this passion for like anything created. 960 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: So you know, years later, you know, like fast forward 961 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: to my old managers started a way development company, but 962 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: he couldn't get work. I was connected because I have 963 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 1: records out, you know what I mean, and like cool, 964 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: like all right, let me trying to help you guys 965 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: get some work. But I wanted pieces of the company 966 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't want to give me a piece of 967 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: the company. Like and I was I mean, I pulled 968 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: in at least site, like we were just building these 969 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: sites for like quarter of a million dollars and every 970 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 1: month I was making like you know, seven hundred and 971 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month, you know what I'm saying, Like 972 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: while the company is generating all this money, but the 973 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: thing that I did was I used to just sit 974 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: over the shoulders of like some of the programmers and 975 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: just watch. And I decided to just leave and start 976 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,959 Speaker 1: my own company. So that's how Chris and I became 977 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: super cool. Because when I started making money, you know, 978 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: I was building these websites hundred thousands, and I was 979 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: a site at the time. You know, I wanted to 980 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: revisit my rap career and Chris was like, yo, you 981 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: get something good going on, you know what I mean? Like, 982 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: and the story is, I really wasn't trying to hear 983 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: Chris telling me that. So I bought a car, drove 984 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: to North Carolina to see my grandmother. But boy, what's 985 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: the funniest ship ever? That nothing Chris said to me resonated. 986 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: It was what Kane said to me. King was like, 987 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, I stopped at his house and I was like, yo, 988 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Kanan like damn in a decade, like LB, like, 989 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, I want to make music again. And Kane 990 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: looked at me, he was like, look at you man, 991 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: you're doing well. He was like me, oh I could 992 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: do was rap? He was like, I can't get a 993 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: job to be done. Was to have some little kids 994 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: rolling up on me like, yo, let me get a 995 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: berth and they'll have stepping with that R a W. 996 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, make sure it's not r a W. That 997 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: was like the really ship that anyone has ever said 998 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: to me. And I was like, you know what, bro, 999 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 1: let me just live in this moment that I have 1000 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: right now. You know, I got something cool happening. And 1001 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,240 Speaker 1: then I just got deeper into it, and like Chris 1002 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 1: was always there, bro, and you know, not to make 1003 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: the conversation about Chris, but it's all good. It was. 1004 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: It was like those important moments in my career that 1005 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: happened where it wasn't just about me, like you know 1006 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: where I got, like in terms of like DJ online, 1007 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: like that ship was thirty five years of like history 1008 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: to get to that point. I think it wasn't gonna 1009 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: just happen for anybody people deja online anyway, but it 1010 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen for anyone the way it happened for 1011 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 1: me that night, because no, no hold on hole, because 1012 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to get there. Yeah I want to. 1013 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: You know, I could talk all day. But Gilly, Gilly, 1014 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: when you started doing the podcast thing, did you feel 1015 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: like that too, like it wasn't something that you wanted 1016 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: to um hold on to, like the wrapping part of you. 1017 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: And did you feel like this this? You know what 1018 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean? I mean sometimes you say you know because 1019 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: you knew we gotta now, we gotta marketing platform. You 1020 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. I got, I got the podcast, 1021 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: I got, I got a million plus followers. So a 1022 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: part of you a, uh, let me cook something h 1023 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: and throw it out. But then you know, another part 1024 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: of you enjoy what you do as a podcaster. So 1025 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: you have somebody tell you, like how like Kane told 1026 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: him to chill on the wrapping? Has anybody ever told 1027 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: you that yet? No? Because because see I just like 1028 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: I just went up on swite. He put me on 1029 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: Front Street and you know about fourteen the people reposted 1030 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: that motherfucker. So and let me know I'm still talking 1031 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: what they wanted is okay, okay, okay. So now now 1032 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: the nice last time I've seen you, I believe it 1033 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: was in Mallible Noble Noble, Noble and brother Shot Kim. 1034 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: Now what's your relationship with Shot Kim? So shot him 1035 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: and I in Dana Queen Lande. We've been friends. Well, 1036 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: you know Shot him and Dana obviously a family and friends. 1037 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: You know they've been got you gotta call creen light 1038 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: teeth from far off as all right, so I retlect that, man, 1039 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: everybody don't. So now I've been friends with them since 1040 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: roughly around like nineteen eighties, seven eighty eight, around eight um, 1041 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: yeah you know. And then you know we moved Like 1042 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: when I got my first real crib in Jersey you know, 1043 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: me Shot Dana and I'm sorry, Shot Queen. A lot 1044 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: of teefa lived in the same building in Jersey City. 1045 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: Like yo, if one of us were like I was 1046 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: doing shows, you know, the other person would pay, like 1047 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: the other person's friends just give it back when we 1048 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: see Like so you know my old like when I 1049 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: started my management company back when I was still rapping, 1050 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: Like my offices were in the flavoring the offices. So 1051 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: Kim is just my guy, you know, like talking three 1052 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: decades of the friendship and and never had an argument, 1053 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's like some real 1054 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: yeah yes, and he's solid dude. So it's so dama yes, 1055 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: wow yeah yeah yeah. Like people like they when they 1056 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: talk about they're like Todd, I'd be like, yo, man, 1057 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I could never call like I'm from Queens raised. Batman 1058 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: is l L cool Jack. He can tell me his 1059 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: name is Todd. He can tell me his name is James, 1060 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: and tell me call that. And I'm like, yol my 1061 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: queens nous. Well not let me call you anything. I'm 1062 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: still calling. I'm sorry, like he's been trying to like 1063 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: personalize our relationship myself. Sorry, I gotta keep addressing you 1064 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: as all hell motherfucking cool James. I love you. I 1065 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: love hell Man. He's a yeah, he's a solid dude bro. 1066 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not from Queens Man. I just love it. 1067 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: L We're gonna you know, you know, uh all right, boom, 1068 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: quarantine happens, right everyone, you know, us as black people, 1069 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: we all laughed at first. When the coronavirus hit. Everyone 1070 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: had I drink Corona, you know what I'm saying. Everyone 1071 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know people, I'm funk Corona. People, 1072 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: that's funk RONA was like, I'm phone Corona. I can't 1073 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: get Corona. And then this this this pandemic of the 1074 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: pandemic happens boom, and everybody starts seeing these bodies dropped 1075 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: and people off taking it serious. Everybody is actually home 1076 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: what makes you say what makes you say, Yo, listen, 1077 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start playing this music and I'm gonna play 1078 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 1: it for the world, because I believe the first night 1079 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: you did it was like two hundred and fifty people, right, 1080 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: it's a little on the two hundred, yes, And then 1081 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the second night was like twenty thousand something like. That 1082 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: second night it was like two thousand. Third day, yeah, yeah, 1083 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: the third day it hit like eight thousand. Then that Friday, 1084 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the Friday, it hit like twenty five thousand people. And 1085 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: then and then it was that Saturday when it went crazy. 1086 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, even though it shows like a hundred thousand 1087 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: people consistently in there as you know, like no one 1088 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: is holding their phone for I was like that. So 1089 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: they did the numbers. It was like millions of people 1090 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: that were in there during that entire time, and that 1091 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, that was like the first time that anything 1092 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: like that has ever happened. And you know it's I mean, 1093 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, people are like everyone's using i G Live now, 1094 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: So those numbers are like kind of small. Now, you think, 1095 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: like a hundred thousands of small compared to like what 1096 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Versus is doing or or Tory Lanes. But it just 1097 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: felt good to be like the first person to do 1098 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: something like that, the first person to crack it over didn't. 1099 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: It's that one night, right, It's everything was building up 1100 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about I kid you not, my text messages, 1101 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: my Twitter, Everybody's like, yo, yo, You're going to the 1102 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: D nice party. And it was just hilarious because everyone 1103 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: was like, everyone's really like But then it's that one 1104 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: nights that I think. It's the one night where yeah, 1105 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Joe Widen was there, Um, the Obama's was there. Um, Like, 1106 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,439 Speaker 1: first of all, how does it feel like? Because that's 1107 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: like packing for football stadiums, right, having having a hundred 1108 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 1: thousand people there, and they're really they're like just with that, 1109 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Like even with Versus will all due respect, Versus is 1110 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: about competition. Even Torry Lanes, Torry Lanes is you know, 1111 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: he's being funny, he's being great, and but it's it's 1112 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: still sexual. So some people are there to see that. 1113 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Type of people are just there to see D change 1114 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: his act and play music and change his glasses here 1115 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: changing right now, paying say, and got there. What's crazy 1116 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 1: about it to me, man, is that Yo, for all 1117 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: the years of DJ and it was about serving other people. 1118 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: I was in your party. I was DJ, and you know, 1119 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the Obama's anago ball. I would fly to the house 1120 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: and playing event for them or sad again man, because 1121 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: you can't say that lightly. He was DJ and Obama's 1122 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: not g ball. Yes, DJ, the inaugural ball fly over 1123 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: my head. That's been right over my head. So you 1124 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: know that's why I said, like, what happened that day 1125 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: could not It couldn't have been anyone else, man, because 1126 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: it was it was here the service of Like that's 1127 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: what I do, Like I never you know, I don't 1128 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: know what anyone is doing, man, Like I've always just 1129 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: been a low key dude. I don't like red carpets. 1130 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: I got to do my job and then I'm gonna 1131 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: hate red carpets. Something. I hate red carpets and what 1132 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: and did real quickly Again, I just feel like the 1133 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: humility and what you've been doing forever, which is a 1134 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of DJs do as well. And I've seen you 1135 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 1: over the years. You've done stuff for big brands and 1136 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: you've done all these like like different things. I feel 1137 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: like it was a lead up because you've been doing 1138 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: ill private parties, ill exclusive things, ill brand parties and 1139 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: That's what like the lead up was to like consolidating 1140 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: all that stuff you've been doing. Yes, I thought was 1141 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: super dope. Is that I felt like it represented the 1142 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: role that DJs have kind of not lost for ourselves, 1143 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: but that the culture kind of hasn't seen us in 1144 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 1: that role. And you exemplified that role for us as DJ's, 1145 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: especially as hip hop dj you know what I mean, 1146 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: because DM DJs had been getting it you know, oh yeah, 1147 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: no hip hop DJ specifically like really like hip hop 1148 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: DJs and just imagining yourself being great, like you know, 1149 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: like all of the lessons. This is the funny part, 1150 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 1: All of the lessons that I learned along the way 1151 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 1: that I thought was like irritating to me, Like you know, 1152 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: like I mean, this is no disrespect and this is 1153 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: not about any one particular DJ, but they are like 1154 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: iconic DJs that when I returned to the scene where 1155 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to open up for them, like New York 1156 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: DJs and and their team is like now you old school, 1157 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: So I had to go. I had to go the 1158 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: straight white play rouler. I mean, like because my hip 1159 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: hop DJs weren't really like rocking with me, Like I 1160 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 1: went to like small spots in New York, and I 1161 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 1: was getting like a hundred and fifty dollars a night 1162 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: to wat for six hours. And I didn't care because 1163 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I was doing my web development 1164 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: ships and not just wanted an opportunity to play music. 1165 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: And when they embraced me in that on that side, 1166 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is the music that I 1167 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 1: actually grew up playing. Anyway, Like if you were watching 1168 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: videos in the eighties waiting for run DMC or Michael 1169 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Jackson or anything urban you have the other watching all 1170 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 1: that ship was saying with a BDP, not party from there. No. 1171 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 1: I was caressed as DJ, but not never a party DJ. 1172 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I was never doing what I do now the ship 1173 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: that I do now. I learned how to do it 1174 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: around around two thousand and three. Two thousand and five 1175 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: is really when I found my footing. So around two 1176 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 1: thousand and three, I started to like study DJs, Like 1177 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,959 Speaker 1: I knew I was never gonna be the ill turn 1178 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: table list. That wasn't my, that wasn't me. Like I'm 1179 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: an uptown dude. I'm really I'm from Harlem. I was 1180 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: born in Harlem Hospital. I lived in my formative he 1181 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: is in the Bronx when they started making me. But 1182 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm a Harlem dude, Like I'm a Harlem uptown, like 1183 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: everybody's fly you want to just play the fly sh 1184 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,959 Speaker 1: it like I wanted that. I wanted to play Rising 1185 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: to the Top and mix it like Brucie Bean all that. 1186 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: So I didn't want to be like Scratch or Clark 1187 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: Ken or I mean, actually Clark Clark gets I mean 1188 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: they're all get busy anyway, but like Clark blends a 1189 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 1: lot um, Scratch blends a lot too. But I didn't 1190 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: want to be the turntables dudes. I just wanted to 1191 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: be playing a sexy ship, you know, so some smooth ass. 1192 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: You just want a smooth set. Yeah, I started studying 1193 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: like house music DJ's. I would. I would go to 1194 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: like you Little Louis Vegas party at cle every Wednesday 1195 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: and just sit there and watch him and watch. I 1196 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: would just watch the crowd. You know, I'm not a dancer. 1197 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I would just go play the wall watch and I'm like, 1198 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: holy sh it, Okay, I see it. And that's how 1199 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I really got my whole, my whole thing going, and 1200 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,959 Speaker 1: you know, and then and didn't kind of circle back 1201 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: to like hip hop. But luckily for me, man, I 1202 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: was able to, like I broke through all of this 1203 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: ship that people are having a hard time breaking through 1204 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: in terms of private events because I'd already established myself 1205 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: in that world. You know, I already established myself in 1206 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that world because I was doing those events that like 1207 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: most most hip hop DJs didn't want to do. They 1208 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 1: didn't understand the music. They didn't understand. Like one of 1209 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 1: the things that happened that night was remember Kenny Rogers 1210 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 1: that passed that week, I started blending Kenny Roger records. 1211 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I have. It's like 1212 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: that's what we grew up list crazy crazy, you know, 1213 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 1: like and that was people wrote about that like yeo, 1214 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 1: he played everything. And if you can tell that I 1215 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 1: love the music by the way that I play it, 1216 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 1: you know, it feels natural. It's not it's not I mean, 1217 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: you DJ bro, It's not even based on like any 1218 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: specific genre. It's like a fear in that that you 1219 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: would vote when you blend these records. So it's just 1220 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: beautiful to see that during this during this crazy time, 1221 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 1: yef it only plays where he wants. Yeah, I don't 1222 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: know if the cadis to the crowd at all. You 1223 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: gotta relax. That's why I got I got my vinal 1224 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,839 Speaker 1: it over here. Look, yo, but he he caters to himself, 1225 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: which is dope. Though that's originally what DJs to do too, 1226 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: but then you had that. So let me ask you something. 1227 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 1: Is that pressure like when you know him that these 1228 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: people are not only in the room there commented you know, 1229 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: from the Joe Bidens to the shallow Obama's Is this 1230 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 1: something that you like when you know somebody walks in 1231 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: the building. Are you saying to myself, let me play 1232 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Let me play this for Z to get them hype 1233 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 1: because I played them before. Or Oprah is in here 1234 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: like open you have listen, Let let me just explain 1235 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: something to you. You have Oprah and r E Joe 1236 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Biden the same. I would never be in the party, 1237 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: was would never say the thugs and the politicians. I'm smoking, 1238 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: I'm feeling great like yo. Like, So, isn't a certain 1239 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: pressure that you got when you know certain people in 1240 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the building or it's just like it fuse you up now, 1241 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: it fused me up. Like so if you'd rather watch 1242 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 1: like people dj R, I g like even right right, now, 1243 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 1: they don't engage with like the people that are in 1244 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: the room. They usually just playing music. They're not really 1245 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: playing attention to. Sometimes they look at the comments, but 1246 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 1: then they just go back and playing. My thing was 1247 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I wanted the average person that's listening to feel just 1248 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 1: as important as Michelle Obama, because that's the only chance 1249 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 1: that you're probably gonna get to like really not like 1250 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: the average person's gonna really get to be and to 1251 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,839 Speaker 1: be like, yo, I was in the same party as 1252 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: this person, and that's what they're saying. Yeah, and that's 1253 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: and so it was like I just started doing these shoutouts. 1254 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 1: I never talked this much. First of all, I don't 1255 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,560 Speaker 1: even like talking on them like in my regular party's No, 1256 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 1: it was about the music. But I started talking to 1257 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 1: what they're reminded me of the old school Harlem parties 1258 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: to pay the full parties, Like when somebody walk in 1259 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: the building and when you said they named people were 1260 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 1: get in Texas people like like it was. That's what 1261 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 1: it reminds me, I saw because you and that's actually 1262 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: how people feel about that ship too exactly. They come 1263 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 1: in there, I'll start I'll just shout him out and 1264 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 1: then it's like the end of scene. You know a 1265 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: names every day You're like, bro, when I sign on line, 1266 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 1: not about the celebrities like I do see a lot 1267 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 1: of celebrities, like Mariah's in there almost every day, and 1268 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: like Bobby Flame, like would be like the most random 1269 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,600 Speaker 1: I did have said earlier. It was like Dally I 1270 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: was in then, uh, Donny Wahberg, the crew, Stephanie Mills, 1271 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: It's just like all over the place man. Ari Lennox 1272 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, but it's it's just dope to be. 1273 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: First of all, I turned fifty next month, right, you 1274 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and like, right that cheers to 1275 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: that because that ship was looking scary, that she was 1276 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 1: looking scary. I was like, I don't want to be 1277 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: the club and fifty. Hey, but you're making the club 1278 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,040 Speaker 1: at fifty. Let's do it. Almost second guy, Yeah, y'all 1279 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: keep going and watch my hand. You know. Let me 1280 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 1: ask you something, d like, this is something that we really, 1281 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: me and my boys were talking about and I want 1282 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 1: you to be honest about this. Right when it when 1283 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: it really took off, the club quarantine stuff, it felt 1284 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 1: like there was almost a pressure for you to continue 1285 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: it and the subsequent like days that you started doing Yo, 1286 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: yeah can you? I mean yeah, like we were worried 1287 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,680 Speaker 1: about your health. You cut out for a minute. What 1288 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 1: did you say? What was the court? Like we were 1289 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: saying we was worried about your health. We thought that 1290 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: that maybe there was a pressure for you to to 1291 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 1: to continually do this every night. And me and my 1292 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: my people we were talking about like, yo, man, I 1293 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 1: hope he doesn't feel like he has to do this, 1294 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, like like it's it might be too much, 1295 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it wasn't about the people though. That's 1296 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 1: what I want to say. I want to remind people 1297 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 1: that going on every day, it ended up becoming about 1298 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: people about like knowing that the music is healing, and 1299 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: in particular, like in that my I g live for 1300 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: some reason, the conversation is just different and it's full 1301 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: of love. So yes, I enjoy it. But in the beginning, dude, 1302 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: the way people out and the way they enjoyed the 1303 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,600 Speaker 1: music was the same way that I felt when I 1304 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 1: played the music. It felt like it was healing me 1305 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: because I've been here by myself, you know what I mean, 1306 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm home alone, I don't have any family in 1307 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: l A I mean I have close friends here, but 1308 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 1: like my kids are in Michigan and my oldest daughters 1309 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: and Penn State Law school, and you know, my mom 1310 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 1: is in New York. You know, I'm single, Like yo, 1311 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm home with nothing, and nother ship was like yo, 1312 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: the music and going on was saving me from you know, 1313 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 1: I don't want to say depression, just you know, out 1314 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 1: of respect for people that actually battle with depression, but like, yeah, 1315 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: like she was heavy though, you know it was it 1316 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: was a minor version of depression happening happening, you know, 1317 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 1: like it's um, just imagine this, bro, Like, Okay, you guys, 1318 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: have you got the show, you got the podcast, you 1319 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 1: got you know what I'm saying, you got the TV show? 1320 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Be all this stuff going on right before like a DJ. 1321 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: All you have You're show was still going on right 1322 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,679 Speaker 1: now before DJ, and you know you have no shows. 1323 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: There's no income, lost everything, lost everything. So I'm sitting 1324 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: here like, yeah, I did very well. You know, I 1325 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 1: don't know I did. You know, I did very well. 1326 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: You know where I invested, but like all my investments 1327 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 1: were going down, which they will probably bounce back, but 1328 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 1: the market was bad. Yeah, all of the festivals were 1329 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: being canceled. So I had I had my music week. 1330 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I had Ultra I mean not Ultra h south By Southwest, 1331 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 1: I had you know, a c L you know, SU festival, 1332 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: so playing the main stage, everything, Beat, awards, every gig 1333 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: was just being canceled left and right. So then I 1334 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: wasn't with my family, so just the match and I 1335 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, I did four hundred thou miles flight miles 1336 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: last year. I was on the plane like every other day, 1337 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: either going to see my kids or going to a gig. 1338 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: And I did a lot of gigs last year. Now 1339 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm stuck at home and I don't even recognize home 1340 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: because I never really made it home because I was 1341 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,639 Speaker 1: always gone, So I didn't make my place home. I'm 1342 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 1: not with my kids, I'm single, my jigs are being canceled. 1343 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know when we're gonna go back to work. 1344 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: I did well, but not not well enough to be 1345 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 1: sitting and like paying bills for a year and a half, 1346 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like this was like 1347 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 1: some crazy and then I was turning fifty. I'm like, yo, 1348 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be My investment is a bad 1349 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: right now, all of the games you cancel. That's why 1350 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 1: I sat. And there's a very spot where I'm sitting 1351 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: right now. This is where it all began, right here. 1352 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 1: That's I was in the room. I was in my bedroom, 1353 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 1: and I was frustrating. I was like yo oh. And 1354 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 1: on top of it, I was being fucking audited for 1355 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 1: like some dumb ship that you know what I'm saying, like, 1356 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, So it was like the pressure of all 1357 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: of that, and and in one moment, I felt like 1358 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,680 Speaker 1: like the universe was just saying, like be still. Like 1359 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I literally heard, you know, you just need to be 1360 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 1: still and to DJ, that's what they said, pull out 1361 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 1: your equipment and nah, I just it just it's said 1362 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 1: to be stilled. That was it. And I got up 1363 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 1: and I sat right here still like like right, yeah, Now, 1364 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't I wasn't even I wasn't even trying to 1365 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 1: DJ online. The funny thing is I didn't even want 1366 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: a DJ. I sat here just because I wanted to 1367 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,439 Speaker 1: sign in the I G Live and play a couple 1368 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 1: of songs, and I wanted to interview. I really wanted 1369 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: to do what you guys are doing. I wanted to 1370 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 1: interview artists, but I had this interview series back to 1371 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: day called True Epop Stories, So yeah, I remember those. Yeah. 1372 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I was telling my buddies in the cigar barb the 1373 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: night of the quarantine, and I was like, you know what, 1374 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure out what the plan was, Like, well, 1375 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 1: how are we gonna spend this what we thought was 1376 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna be two weeks? I was like, you know, I 1377 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna go into to this this uh 1378 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 1: I g Live section of Instagram and like invite my 1379 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: friends in and just and interview them. That's all I 1380 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do. So I was just playing songs and 1381 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,559 Speaker 1: just telling stories about like y'all remember being the party 1382 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 1: and Bruce and b played this, and like, you know, 1383 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: that's all I was doing that. Nothing hooked up, no 1384 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 1: turn tables, nothing. I didn't even have turn tables here. 1385 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 1: I mean I have in my closet, but they weren't 1386 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: hooked up by mixers. Old at some fifty seven doesn't 1387 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: work with the new software. You know, I never had 1388 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 1: that ship looked up at all. I've seen the picture 1389 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: you posted behind the scene showing the rig the way 1390 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: you had set it up. Yeah, and I still have 1391 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 1: it all crazy looking too, I refused to like change 1392 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: anything because I like, like, I like the story aspect 1393 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 1: of it, Like I'm putting ship together with everything that's 1394 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,640 Speaker 1: around here, like my favorite books. And Will Smith sent 1395 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: me water the first night. He was showing some water 1396 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 1: to hol Go sit you water. You got some water. 1397 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 1: You got some water too, whills going on, Like I 1398 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: used all those boxes to elevate my speakers. I'm like, yo, 1399 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 1: I keep really simple, bro. But you know, like sitting 1400 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 1: here was it was therapeutic though, man, Like you know 1401 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like playing that music, playing music that 1402 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 1: you know? Who told me that actually DJ was Cark Kent. 1403 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 1: He's like cork Park Park was in there every day. 1404 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: Black Thought was in there every day, you know, like 1405 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 1: Bumby was in there every day, you know, in the 1406 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 1: beginning before it became a thing. And I called Clark 1407 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, I don't know what this is, bro, 1408 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 1: but this ship feels good. He was like, yo, you 1409 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: know what you need to do. I was like what 1410 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 1: he was like, you should actually start DJing. But what 1411 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,519 Speaker 1: I didn't know is you weren't supposed to do. I 1412 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 1: mean I actually knew it, but I didn't think they 1413 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 1: were gonna let me play music like that, and you 1414 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 1: know he was a copyright ship. He was just playing records. 1415 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: I was. I was just playing songs, but they weren't 1416 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: flagging me, so a damn, all right, this is when 1417 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 1: you're messing me up now. So so you could playing 1418 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 1: songs isn't the same thing as DJ no. So I 1419 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: was playing songs from my computer, from iTunes. Yeah, it 1420 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 1: was just playing them. So when I played my tunes, 1421 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a DJ at all, that's what you're telling me. 1422 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 1: But I just do that. No, he just wasn't mixing. 1423 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 1: He was just playing. Yeah, wasn't mixing me. Okay, all right, 1424 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 1: So I wasn't mixing at all. So I was just 1425 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 1: playing songs. And then, uh, the funny thing man that 1426 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,440 Speaker 1: day when the quarantine, when they was going on full lockdown, 1427 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just like, yo, I try 1428 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: like using my turntables to mix it in and work. 1429 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 1: And then Kark was like, yo, my guy will just 1430 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 1: send you whatever you need for free. But I was like, yo, 1431 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I think I'm just gonna go buy something 1432 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: because there was no telling how long it was gonna take. 1433 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 1: And I had at the spirit of like, I really 1434 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 1: need to DJ right now, and I just you had 1435 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,559 Speaker 1: a sense of urgency at that point. Yeah. I was 1436 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know, Yeah, it just felt right. And 1437 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: that was that the night that was the first big night. 1438 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,600 Speaker 1: That's when that Friday night, when it was like it 1439 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 1: was like twenty five thousand people in there, I'm like like, fun, 1440 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 1: what is this becoming? Like Drake popped in I didn't 1441 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: even know he was following me j Lo. Everybody just 1442 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 1: kept popping in there. And then that next day that's 1443 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,639 Speaker 1: when that ship was like that she was magical, bro, 1444 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Like I was literally calling people. I was calling I 1445 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: was calling everyone like, oh, Joe Biden's campaign manager Like yeah, 1446 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: but d do you think you you underestimated your legend? Bro? 1447 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever looked at myself that way. 1448 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: So I guess I did underestimate because we all look 1449 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 1: at you that way. I never looked at it that way. 1450 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 1: I always looked at it like yo, I'm you know 1451 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 1: what we do, look man, the legend in my crew 1452 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 1: just imagine this. I had to live in the shadow 1453 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 1: of one of the greatest ever. Yeah, I live in 1454 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,639 Speaker 1: the shadow of Caress my entire career. So I never 1455 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,479 Speaker 1: looked at it more than like, yo, than what it 1456 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: was for me at the time of like this constant 1457 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 1: struggle to not ever be looked at as just the 1458 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 1: dude that was in the shadow of Caress. So I 1459 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 1: never allowed myself to get comfortable with anything. It was 1460 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 1: just like, no, I gotta keep going, I gotta keep doing, 1461 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: Like now I know I'm in the shadow of no 1462 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 1: one like I know that for surely, like and that 1463 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 1: that's it would be the best feeling that I have 1464 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: of all this, that one I hope like my crew 1465 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 1: and me, you know, in particular BDP crew, like everyone. 1466 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I still I still talk to Chris every 1467 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: now and then, not not on the occasional side, but 1468 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 1: like like, I hope they feel a sense of like 1469 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: prime when it comes to this, like you know, they're 1470 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 1: the man they do, you know what I mean, Like 1471 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 1: we're all from me knowing you. I felt a sense 1472 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: of pride. I remember the first couple of days, the 1473 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 1: first start I'm happening and I started tuning in, and 1474 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: you know, my wife, her wife, her friends started hitting, 1475 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,679 Speaker 1: hitting her and telling her, tell you are you watching 1476 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,640 Speaker 1: with with d nice is doing? And it just was 1477 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,839 Speaker 1: a triple effect. I mean, I mean as an outside 1478 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: of looking and it was just like it was literally 1479 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,240 Speaker 1: like going to a club. Like I was so happy 1480 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: when you named the club Quarantine because it was the 1481 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: first time I could be in the club with a 1482 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 1: person in Minnesota at the same exact time, same time, 1483 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,200 Speaker 1: like like I could be on Eastern time, this person 1484 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 1: could be on whatever, but we were all all in 1485 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 1: the same situation. And you can tell from the comments 1486 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 1: because that's what I started to do. Like what I 1487 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 1: started to do was when I was checking a text message, 1488 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 1: it would log me out. So what I would do 1489 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 1: is I would go on for my son's iPad and 1490 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 1: I would go on for my son's iPad, but I 1491 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: would comment from my phone, so it would it looked 1492 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 1: like I never left. But you know what I'm saying, 1493 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Like you know what, But what I'm gonna tell you, 1494 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you if you were like this 1495 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 1: was something very very important, like and it was the 1496 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: way you brought the whole world together. Like a person 1497 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,000 Speaker 1: who told me, it's two things. You can bring the 1498 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 1: world together through few food and music. I had saw 1499 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 1: a little examples of it through music, but the like 1500 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 1: the first real live example I've ever really seen music 1501 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 1: from the world together was her brother Quarantine and it's 1502 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 1: it's you're shifting like first of all party where I 1503 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,680 Speaker 1: know they would kick me out in real life. In 1504 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: real life, I know they would kick me out because 1505 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden walked up into Joy. You know what's been 1506 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: like a great experience with with it is that so 1507 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,920 Speaker 1: that Friday could have been. It could have shifted in 1508 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,639 Speaker 1: a different direction. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because 1509 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 1: everyone was trying to figure out how to steal make money. 1510 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 1: So Thursday, when when they started to pop, this is 1511 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,799 Speaker 1: like day three, I started getting calls from record companies 1512 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 1: and from other clients that it's like, Yo, can you 1513 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 1: play this record? And you name this I don't want 1514 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 1: to say the label, but like records Friday, and you know, 1515 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,720 Speaker 1: they had a bag for me. They were gonna have 1516 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: two of the top artists, and you know all hip 1517 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: hop artists come in and you know they they have 1518 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 1: like tens of millions of followers. And I was like, yo, 1519 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 1: you know what you know that actually give me like 1520 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 1: some you know, some credibility. Maybe they're because I was 1521 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: struggling under two hundred thousand followers. I was like, Yo, 1522 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: maybe maybe some of these people so follow me. And 1523 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,839 Speaker 1: I woke up that wanting that Friday wanting, I sweaty 1524 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 1: broke once again. I sat on the edge of the 1525 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,599 Speaker 1: bed and they were expecting me to do this at 1526 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: three at a new three pm Eastern time, and I 1527 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 1: was sitting on a bed and I was like, Yo, 1528 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't feel right, Like this doesn't This is the 1529 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 1: one chance that I have to just be me to 1530 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 1: play what I love, and here I am about to 1531 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 1: turn it into a record company's Friday night party and 1532 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: not follow my instincts. So I never called them. I 1533 01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 1: never I never called, never blogged in with anyone. I 1534 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,759 Speaker 1: just signed on and started playing ship that I love again, 1535 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Soul Records, R and V Joints, you know, mixing all 1536 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,639 Speaker 1: of that out. So throughout this entire process, I never 1537 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 1: sacrificed my integrity at all, like four check. So those 1538 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,519 Speaker 1: first three weeks, I just got on because it was 1539 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,479 Speaker 1: therapeutic and I knew it was here in the world, 1540 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 1: and I was just like I just wanted to do more, 1541 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 1: you know. But I never sacrificed my integrity. And that's 1542 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 1: the beauty of like this whole thing is I feel 1543 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,639 Speaker 1: like the music shifting now, like we should be able 1544 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: to play these records in the club. I know I'm 1545 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 1: going to because there's nothing you're not gonna tell. If 1546 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: you're hiring me, you're hiring me for me, like period, 1547 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You hired Stevoky for what 1548 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 1: he does, you hire Mustle for what he does. You're 1549 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 1: hiring me because this is what I do, and they no, 1550 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 1: that's in my writer now, Like I won't even approve 1551 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,640 Speaker 1: anything that I've been doing them like Nab not doing that. 1552 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm not shouting this out if you want me. If 1553 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: somebody getting a quest the e f N he just 1554 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 1: like listen, this is this is my opinion, the best 1555 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 1: open format DJs or hip hop DJ's, because then it's 1556 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 1: not open format anymore. It becomes hip hop. Like even 1557 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 1: when they're not playing hip hop. How annoying, How annoying 1558 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,559 Speaker 1: that that would be the nice you you at pop 1559 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 1: party or somebody. And I'm like, one time, I think 1560 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 1: Papa's Madden to one of his parties. I think last 1561 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 1: New Year's or something or something like you know, like 1562 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,439 Speaker 1: like people like if anybody ever like like trying to 1563 01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: give you a question and you just like, is not 1564 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 1: the move to the party and you know where it's going. 1565 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh you know what, Puff wasn't mad Puff. He wanted 1566 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 1: me to play like like some demos, like like new tracks. Yeah, 1567 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 1: like you know, you know, you know, like you know 1568 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 1: from his kids, you know what I'm saying, like, Oh, yeah, 1569 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah yeah, 1570 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know, I can't do it, upset, No, 1571 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 1: that's it. No, I just wanted to finish my set. 1572 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 1: But you know I was like, yeah, I didn't they 1573 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 1: be To be honest, I didn't have the music, you 1574 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I don't I don't let 1575 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 1: anybody put their drives on my computer. Like I don't 1576 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, I don't. I just don't 1577 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 1: do that. I don't even start it like that. And 1578 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 1: there's no disrespect to Puff for anybody, because I love Puff, 1579 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 1: my guy. But you know, actually he never even came 1580 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 1: over to me. It was more like his people like yo, 1581 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,640 Speaker 1: Puff needs you to Nobody took it up anything. This 1582 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 1: beautiful house in my m me doesn't belong to me, 1583 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 1: but this does what I'm trying to get this house 1584 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,160 Speaker 1: with this just never you know what I'm saying, like, 1585 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,599 Speaker 1: but Puff usually hears about it, you know, man, Puff 1586 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: ups when I played the classic ship Man, you know, 1587 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: like so and Puff has actually been one of my 1588 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 1: he's at you know that night that that Saturday night 1589 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 1: when that ship went crazy two o'clock in the morning. 1590 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 1: The call came from Puff and he didn't ask for anything. 1591 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: He didn't say, you don't want to manage you. He said, Yo, 1592 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I just want you to just take a break and 1593 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 1: take all of this in you change the world. You 1594 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 1: did you didn't, Yeah, man, That's what I was trying 1595 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 1: to tell you earlier with That's how we all felt 1596 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 1: for you. Did he Um. I still didn't listen to him, though, 1597 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm still going, yeah, but you know what you should? 1598 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 1: You should because you know why. It's like I'm like 1599 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I said, man, like, um. You know, I'm forty two 1600 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 1: years old, you know what I mean, um um, And 1601 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 1: I like to think that I've been around the world 1602 01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 1: and not Yeah, yeah, I like to think that, you 1603 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I got so much other accolades, 1604 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 1: There so much other things to do. And that's like 1605 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,600 Speaker 1: I said, like I said, like music coming together and 1606 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 1: bringing everything together. That's one of the like the top moments, 1607 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: if not the moment in my life where I see 1608 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 1: if everyone really like I made a record back in 1609 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: the days called music make these thugs calm down, and 1610 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 1: it meant nothing. I mean I did it with Nois. 1611 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I see you gotta interview with nis on on on 1612 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 1: on the live as well, but that meant nothing to 1613 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 1: to this night. Is you really made the world just 1614 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 1: come together, just you know, and celebration, and I can 1615 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,639 Speaker 1: I swear to god. I was getting texas of people 1616 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 1: really saying, you know you're going You're going to club 1617 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 1: Quarantine tonight, and I really we were leaving like I 1618 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, weading room in my house 1619 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 1: to the other room in my house, and I even 1620 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 1: had my balcony set up. We had lights out there 1621 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 1: and it was just me and my wife and we 1622 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: just parted away. By the way, I told you DJ 1623 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 1: and my wedding, even though I didn't hit you, I 1624 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 1: didn't text you, but in my mind, you DJ and 1625 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,519 Speaker 1: my wedding. Yeah, it's just happening. We're gonna make it. 1626 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean that. I mean that, like no, no but 1627 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: it couldn't have Hold on, I cheered without sipping. That 1628 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, yeah, I need to put some more. We 1629 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 1: we got it. Hold up, hold on, hold on, hold 1630 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:22,560 Speaker 1: up that Kanya shout out to nas in the moment. There, baby, 1631 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 1: we gotta tell d d Nice how he how? Actually 1632 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 1: he's a part of the dream Champ's history and no, no, 1633 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,800 Speaker 1: you can refute this. Maybe maybe I don't know. This 1634 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 1: is my my opinion of the history. I did my 1635 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 1: name ism name hold no, hold up, man, you're ruining 1636 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:41,559 Speaker 1: my story. Bro. So so Nori moves down to Miami. 1637 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 1: He's working out out of my studio, Crazier Productions, and 1638 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, let's just do some like hip hop ship. 1639 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Let's just get he's coming off of the stuff. And 1640 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,679 Speaker 1: then the both him and I, it's like we we 1641 01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 1: we both had the same favorite record. My name is 1642 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 1: the Nice. Yeah, yeah, we both had the same favorite record. Like, Yo, 1643 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 1: let's let's sample this and let's create another record out 1644 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,760 Speaker 1: of this. This is one of my favorite hicals, was 1645 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 1: one of my favorite records too. Let's I'm gonna play 1646 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 1: that record tonight. My name is that No, So let 1647 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,120 Speaker 1: me tell you that studio came after. That is the 1648 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,840 Speaker 1: prelude to like that's where dream Chance was born out 1649 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 1: of Studio studio and that's yeah yeah, those studio sessions. Yeah, 1650 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 1: so you have a piece of drink. Yeah yeah, please 1651 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 1: don't claim it. But how is that, like, you know, 1652 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 1: bud wise, I see bud Wise of calling, I see 1653 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 1: you actually flew out here for social distance party drive 1654 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 1: by joint, yeah, the drive by drain that how how 1655 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,880 Speaker 1: how is that? Like you know, um, just people just 1656 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 1: embracing and and the best thing about it is you're 1657 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,640 Speaker 1: being you. It's not like you're being somebody else and 1658 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,719 Speaker 1: get in love for being somebody else again, that's exactly 1659 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,599 Speaker 1: who you are. So that's been like the best that's 1660 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: been one of the best feelings. Man. Is that Like 1661 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 1: I said, man, I've been authentic to myself bro, and 1662 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 1: like seeing all of these things happen, and uh, for one, 1663 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 1: it wasn't really about the accolades because obviously, you know, 1664 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: I've been I've worked with Hennessey for years, I've worked 1665 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 1: with but you know, like I've worked with always fine, um, 1666 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 1: but this was something different, you know, like this was 1667 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 1: like people really came through for me. And so if 1668 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,919 Speaker 1: I ever had a question about like my own legacy. 1669 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,640 Speaker 1: That ship was answered two months to immediately, you know 1670 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,720 Speaker 1: what I mean, like if I if I ever questioned it, 1671 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 1: like y'all, I don't know where I am. You know, No, 1672 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 1: it was the answers came two months ago where I 1673 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,719 Speaker 1: was like, I felt the love and the answer comes. 1674 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: Every single night, I'm going to Lives and I see 1675 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,800 Speaker 1: it will be like hot DJ with five hundred people 1676 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 1: in there. Another DJ was six seven hundred. I never 1677 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:02,040 Speaker 1: see DJs with like more than like two thousand people. 1678 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,759 Speaker 1: But I'll go on and it will be fifteen thou thousand, 1679 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:10,799 Speaker 1: twenty five. Don't let it be like the versus night everybody, 1680 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,639 Speaker 1: if you really knows to go to my joint. But 1681 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:18,479 Speaker 1: the but the first rightly man, like yep, the Ingage, 1682 01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:23,240 Speaker 1: the boost Joint. Yeah, I mean being gone to Killer 1683 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,600 Speaker 1: that was it was crazy. Then as soon as I 1684 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,679 Speaker 1: as soon as I loved on, it was like ten seconds, 1685 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people in there. I was like, Jesus Christ, 1686 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,080 Speaker 1: this is crazy, but I love it because that means 1687 01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,960 Speaker 1: people trust me. Man, you know what I mean. Like 1688 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,600 Speaker 1: he was starting, you went, you went so pause, you 1689 01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,200 Speaker 1: went like six seven hours right, And I remember just 1690 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,840 Speaker 1: looking at the comments and people were like, you can 1691 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 1: we send you Uba eats because you don't wanted to 1692 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 1: feat you. You know, people people were like, yo can 1693 01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 1: something like you was just you know, did not stop, 1694 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 1: and then you went off for a second, like you 1695 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,880 Speaker 1: went off. You didn't say nothing, and then we didn't 1696 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 1: know what it was happening. I'm not sure if this 1697 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: was the first hat change and you came back with 1698 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,920 Speaker 1: a hat change and he was like, oh, we was 1699 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 1: all hoping, yo, he must say he must eat a 1700 01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 1: grilled cheese, so you know I need a lot. We 1701 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 1: would like, yo, come on, man, he gotta be yo. 1702 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,559 Speaker 1: I always eat, So I just don't. I don't talk 1703 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 1: about it because it should be seeming kind of flussy. 1704 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,160 Speaker 1: But I a chef, you know what I'm saying, Like 1705 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So every time I would 1706 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 1: like I would, I would do this. I didn't do 1707 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,599 Speaker 1: the ship right now, like I still eat while I'm teaching. 1708 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 1: But I'm then and be like, oh this is ship. 1709 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Just slid slip to the private chef back. I'm coming 1710 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 1: back with yo, know what I'm saying, Like, so I eat, 1711 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:58,840 Speaker 1: I was just like nibble on the ship while I 1712 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 1: was teaching, or if I'm eating, Like last night, I 1713 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 1: was eating while I was DJing, but I kept my 1714 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,920 Speaker 1: back turn pretending to pour more wine as I was 1715 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,760 Speaker 1: chewing my food, just you know, to keep the energy going, 1716 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:10,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, oh, you don't want 1717 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,799 Speaker 1: to that's a that's actually funny shot. Though I started 1718 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,839 Speaker 1: that way because there was a Chicken company. No disrespect 1719 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,680 Speaker 1: to the Chicken company, I'll leave the name out. That 1720 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,759 Speaker 1: week was trying to get me to show some chicken 1721 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:26,719 Speaker 1: on the screen, and I'm like, both chicken. They wanted 1722 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,519 Speaker 1: to be both chicken, yo, because you know, people couldn't 1723 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 1: figure out the market this ship, so that I was like, 1724 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:38,080 Speaker 1: oh nice chicken, yo. Back that's what you know. You 1725 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,240 Speaker 1: blew up, bro, you know you blew up when they 1726 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,800 Speaker 1: want you to promote chicken. Then this was before that night, 1727 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 1: but the bag, the bag was looking nice. But I 1728 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,759 Speaker 1: was like, yo, black yo, I can't be eating chicken 1729 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:53,160 Speaker 1: on instagramming. But all these people I'm like, I'm good man, 1730 01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,599 Speaker 1: I'm good. You understanding, But like that's why I love 1731 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,439 Speaker 1: where I am. Man. I never I swear to you yo, yo, 1732 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,599 Speaker 1: you know I never sacrificed my intech reaty, bro, That's 1733 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 1: the that's the part about this ship is that I 1734 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 1: did not straight away from being who I am, man, 1735 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:11,719 Speaker 1: because that's the best lesson ample. That's the best example 1736 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,840 Speaker 1: that you've given everybody. That's the best gift you've given 1737 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,040 Speaker 1: all of us. That's a gift, man, is that I 1738 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,920 Speaker 1: did not sacrifice my integrity at all. I didn't accept 1739 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,160 Speaker 1: any money. Those deals were coming that Monday, trust me, 1740 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,080 Speaker 1: millions and deals that Monday. They were all coming at me. 1741 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,479 Speaker 1: And like my friends thought I was crazy. I was like, yo, 1742 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about this because why 1743 01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,040 Speaker 1: I did it was for people. It was self serving. 1744 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,880 Speaker 1: The very first day it was about me. I just 1745 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 1: wanted to play music. But then I was addicted to 1746 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,639 Speaker 1: because I was reading the comments and people are like, Yo, 1747 01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,080 Speaker 1: this feels like a club. Like just imagine one of 1748 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 1: my friends is you know, you guys all know him, 1749 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,160 Speaker 1: um Will Packer the movie producer, right, so Will that 1750 01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,400 Speaker 1: Thursday will call me. He was like, Yo, everybody keep 1751 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,000 Speaker 1: calling me about your club, Like I think I'm a 1752 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,320 Speaker 1: popping your club tonight. Another still is like a real thing, 1753 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,800 Speaker 1: like people really want to be in there, and that's ship. 1754 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,519 Speaker 1: It's just like the fact that people gravitate towards people 1755 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,160 Speaker 1: like us. You know, I've been waiting to do this, 1756 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:12,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I've been waiting to 1757 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,519 Speaker 1: just talk and you're not doing it yet. Remember this 1758 01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 1: is not a replacement for the Live Drink Champs, you know, 1759 01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,360 Speaker 1: but we couldn't wait no longer. We have the big more. 1760 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: Our show was about bigg en up people who you know, 1761 01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, d nice. When you got ten years in 1762 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,160 Speaker 1: this game, they want to say you washed up and 1763 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,559 Speaker 1: they want to say that. Me and e FM, we 1764 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 1: we we thought that that was wrong for everybody in 1765 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 1: our culture. We thought that if for ten years in 1766 01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,519 Speaker 1: this game, you are season and we should be bigging 1767 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 1: you up, and that goes for everybody. That's why we 1768 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,320 Speaker 1: talked about the Hip Hop Union, like we talked about 1769 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,080 Speaker 1: all this. We did this four years ago. We we 1770 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 1: we realized there's nobody in our culture that's big enough 1771 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 1: our culture. That's what me and my part of the 1772 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 1: e FN got together that did it, and we've been 1773 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,040 Speaker 1: successful at it. And you have been top on the list. 1774 01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,080 Speaker 1: You have one. You're not only one of my favorite graps, 1775 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,640 Speaker 1: you have one of my favorite longs and now that 1776 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:05,559 Speaker 1: you would do another one of my favorite songs, instruction God. 1777 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,680 Speaker 1: But but but I know I'm bouncing around a little bit. 1778 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,880 Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that we need right now? 1779 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, um, we are the World and self 1780 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,160 Speaker 1: destruction was or we are the World. To me, that 1781 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 1: was modern day self destruction. Like like like if if 1782 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 1: I had to choose between we Are the World and 1783 01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,920 Speaker 1: self destruction, self destruction more than me, you know what 1784 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I couldn't identify with everybody or We 1785 01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,599 Speaker 1: are the World, No disrespect to that, but I knew 1786 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 1: who Step the Sonic was, I knew who care Arrest 1787 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,400 Speaker 1: was and so on and so forth. I didn't know 1788 01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,760 Speaker 1: everybody We are the World. It's self destruction something that 1789 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 1: we need nowadays. I mean the record the actually and 1790 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,040 Speaker 1: they tried to do them over and over like a 1791 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,559 Speaker 1: couple of times, but it just hasn't had the same effect. Yeah, 1792 01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be involved because it's usually 1793 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 1: always the same dudes trying to do it, like you know, 1794 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 1: the guys that didn't the original, like now we want 1795 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,840 Speaker 1: to come back and now we need me goos and 1796 01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 1: little yeah, we need we needed to be modernized, like 1797 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,599 Speaker 1: need you don't need it. From my generation, it's just 1798 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,560 Speaker 1: funking down on people, you know what I mean, Like 1799 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 1: like when we first came out, Mellie mel hated us, 1800 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 1: like he didn't he didn't write with us at all, 1801 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 1: with who with bet per self destruction as a trade, 1802 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,639 Speaker 1: Like Mellie mel hated us. That's like the first verse 1803 01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,519 Speaker 1: of poetry, care us from poetry that that was actually 1804 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 1: around he wrote, like like he did that on stage 1805 01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,280 Speaker 1: in front of Mellie Melo, Like you know, that's crucial 1806 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 1: that you're saying this crucial because that means sho it 1807 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:36,400 Speaker 1: ain't changed because a lot of the elder statements seemed 1808 01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,599 Speaker 1: to be a little bit mad at people who made 1809 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,599 Speaker 1: more money than them. Accurate. That is accurate. Okay, continue, 1810 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 1: that's accurate, you know, Like I mean I see that 1811 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,040 Speaker 1: now with with a lot of DJs from Like I mean, 1812 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite DJs hit me up, send me 1813 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,280 Speaker 1: a text last night, like you know, when did you 1814 01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 1: start playing slow songs on the Sunday night? Oh you 1815 01:38:56,240 --> 01:39:00,760 Speaker 1: know you know or you know, like people always do 1816 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 1: things like that, you know what I'm saying, Like when 1817 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 1: did you start doing this or like when did you start? 1818 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, bro, it's just music, you know, like 1819 01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,800 Speaker 1: what we do, this is what we all do. I'm 1820 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,800 Speaker 1: not I'm never limited myself to anything, you know, but like, yeah, 1821 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, our generation is like 1822 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 1: we all we don't really show each other the same 1823 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,960 Speaker 1: amount of love that we should, you know. Like that's 1824 01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,559 Speaker 1: why when I see Bunby in there, if I see Nori, 1825 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,320 Speaker 1: I you know, when I see Nori, When I see 1826 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Nori's name popping there, this means so much to me 1827 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 1: because because of the violator days, you know what I mean. 1828 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:43,280 Speaker 1: And it's like here, brother, yeah, it's like I can't 1829 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 1: think about my life and music without thinking of Chris Lighty. 1830 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 1: That's true. This is real ship to me because that 1831 01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 1: man told me that, yo, you're better than just you're 1832 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 1: better than what you used to do. No disrespect to 1833 01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,240 Speaker 1: what you used to do, but you can figure this out. 1834 01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,519 Speaker 1: So me doing multiple things actually happened because he challenged me. 1835 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,519 Speaker 1: It wasn't because I saw myself doing these things. It 1836 01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,200 Speaker 1: was because that man challenged me, you know what I mean. 1837 01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,640 Speaker 1: Like there was a day in the studio when I 1838 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,679 Speaker 1: was building the Violet to site that. Yo, I followed 1839 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,920 Speaker 1: you around. You got a whole through in the studio, dude. 1840 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was in the studio 1841 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 1: and d N I showed up one time. I tuck down. 1842 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,639 Speaker 1: You were there? Yeah, I was there. I was there 1843 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, this is d Nice And 1844 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 1: I was there to take pictures. Though, That's what I'm saying, Yo, 1845 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,600 Speaker 1: I was kind of sucked up by it. Though originally 1846 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,240 Speaker 1: I was like, holy ship, d Nice is a photographer 1847 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,879 Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, I have to adjust. I have to adjust, 1848 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,800 Speaker 1: you know why you thought you thought that? But but 1849 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,879 Speaker 1: when I looked at DNA, d Knights is always defend. 1850 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,400 Speaker 1: He's always like fly, you know what I'm saying. So 1851 01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know he's a different guy, like he's 1852 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 1: a he's a smooth But I think what I think 1853 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 1: is doub about about that point is that you already 1854 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. D like, like you understood that 1855 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 1: to survive. The thing is, we all look at the 1856 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 1: one percent of entertainers that make a living off of 1857 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 1: what they do, the one thing they do, and they 1858 01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:25,160 Speaker 1: make millions of dollars. Most entertainer entertainers and hip hop 1859 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,400 Speaker 1: artists or anybody that whatever, any of us that are creators, 1860 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,640 Speaker 1: that is not the reality for all of us. We 1861 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,040 Speaker 1: have to have different lanes. We have to be able 1862 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 1: to to do different things, to do the one thing 1863 01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 1: we love. And you know, I was young with at 1864 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:42,880 Speaker 1: that time. When I was in the studio and I 1865 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,600 Speaker 1: saw you, I was like, oh ship dean heys of 1866 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 1: But I get it now like I got it a 1867 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,080 Speaker 1: little bit after that because I started doing the same thing. 1868 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 1: Listen your d D. When I started doing reggae throng, 1869 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,040 Speaker 1: the offen didn't even speak to me. I don't know. 1870 01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:04,400 Speaker 1: I still don't speak to you all. Fact, Joe, when 1871 01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,519 Speaker 1: I did, I did, and I ain't no disrespect that 1872 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:14,200 Speaker 1: I get done respect to you that, Joe. You are 1873 01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 1: my closest friends. Nice to all my closest friends. They said, 1874 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I said, reggae thrown. They said 1875 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,719 Speaker 1: click click. I don't know why. In my mind, both 1876 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:31,439 Speaker 1: of their numbers magically changed right there. So so so 1877 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,680 Speaker 1: trust me, like like when you're transition, sometimes people just 1878 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 1: don't understand you know what I'm saying. They didn't, But 1879 01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: you gotta let the only thing that would stop you 1880 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 1: is your ego. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's 1881 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,439 Speaker 1: just your ego that would stop you from like doing 1882 01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 1: that ship to be able to like pivot. So I 1883 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, it was part of it that felt a 1884 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,599 Speaker 1: little uncomfortable, But the part that made me feel comfortable 1885 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,160 Speaker 1: was that, wait a minute, I worked for myself. I'm 1886 01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:00,000 Speaker 1: only here to the Nori because I want to populate 1887 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,080 Speaker 1: the violet to site with content. That's the only reason 1888 01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,760 Speaker 1: why I went. I was it was I was doing 1889 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,760 Speaker 1: in the varley to say so I wanted to have, 1890 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,960 Speaker 1: like I wanted to be able to what we do 1891 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,519 Speaker 1: on Instagram was what I was trying to do with violence, 1892 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,559 Speaker 1: you know, to just be like put up new images 1893 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,800 Speaker 1: and like sell stories like oh this person was doing this, 1894 01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,680 Speaker 1: you know. Like so it didn't matter to me, like 1895 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,880 Speaker 1: go and walk around with my camera ship. My camera's 1896 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:31,080 Speaker 1: excessive this you know where Where's where's James Flix? Fix? 1897 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 1: You got my homemade dream Flix. He's one of my producers. 1898 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: He was an NC and now he's a photographer for Dad. 1899 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,759 Speaker 1: I was there that night when you had the camera. 1900 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:47,439 Speaker 1: Who you are? I know you you made me a drink. 1901 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:53,680 Speaker 1: That's my brother, right brother? You know it was photographer. 1902 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,920 Speaker 1: To which camera do you have with you? I got 1903 01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,400 Speaker 1: the sony, so what I'm doing, But I just gotta 1904 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:05,400 Speaker 1: gotta fool you want to thank you for speaking Chinese? 1905 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 1: I got I got the this is the like monochrome, 1906 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,040 Speaker 1: the new one, the monochroone. Check it out. I got 1907 01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 1: the iPhone. I got the phone. No, man's that's about though. Man, 1908 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be in with you. Guys though, bro, 1909 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,519 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this. And how about how about 1910 01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,800 Speaker 1: your relationship with Cavras. I know we spoke on it 1911 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,320 Speaker 1: a little bit lightly earlier. Now we're we're good. We 1912 01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,360 Speaker 1: don't really see each other that often though, you know, 1913 01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 1: like his Chris never really had a cell phone, like, 1914 01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't do a cell phone things. So I'm not 1915 01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,280 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I wanted to talk to you about that. 1916 01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:44,880 Speaker 1: Um stop. He still gets on the boat and ship 1917 01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,040 Speaker 1: like that. Last time I've seen you. You saw what 1918 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:52,479 Speaker 1: happened when he did drink Champs. Everybody knows this or no, 1919 01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,640 Speaker 1: nobody knows this story. He did drink Champs. There was 1920 01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,720 Speaker 1: a controversy that happened when he did drink Champs. You 1921 01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,720 Speaker 1: gotta explain the boat. He in the boat along boat, right, 1922 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,439 Speaker 1: So he didn't see the controversy, didn't He couldn't react 1923 01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 1: to it until like a week later because of the 1924 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,560 Speaker 1: boat riding. Two weeks later. Two weeks later, it was 1925 01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:16,960 Speaker 1: like three weeks later. Yeah, yeah, man, Yeah, he's like, um, 1926 01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 1: I think somebody got to tell him, like, planes are 1927 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,360 Speaker 1: safer than they used to be. They used to be. 1928 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:28,800 Speaker 1: Joe didn't used to take planes either, though, Yeah Joe. Yeah, 1929 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,080 Speaker 1: Joe would not get on a plane. Joe was on 1930 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:35,160 Speaker 1: He's lefting right now, He's left it right on the planes. Like, yeah, 1931 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm good, bro, not but caress I'm you know, look 1932 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,400 Speaker 1: I said early. I hope he's proud of like what happened, man, 1933 01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,320 Speaker 1: Like I am a product of BDP, you know what 1934 01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, You're yeah, you're they're prodigy for sure. What happened, 1935 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,000 Speaker 1: This happened for my crew, you know, like this is 1936 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 1: some dope ship when you really look back at the 1937 01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,160 Speaker 1: history of it. I spotted with them. It started there 1938 01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,200 Speaker 1: and that same dude, that same dude that started with 1939 01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,560 Speaker 1: them ended up playing in the White House, you know 1940 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,679 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like this it's just a dope story, man, 1941 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:06,800 Speaker 1: It's a dope story. Yeah, I can't wait to like 1942 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,280 Speaker 1: properly tell my story one day, you know, like because 1943 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,920 Speaker 1: people should know the ups and downs, like that's where 1944 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,760 Speaker 1: the inspiration comes from. The inspiration comes from from like 1945 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,880 Speaker 1: never giving up and always believe in yourself. Not not 1946 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,200 Speaker 1: to sound appreciate it, but that's really a story right there. 1947 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 1: That's the story, you know, is that already in the 1948 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:27,240 Speaker 1: already thinking that like the book and like the documentary. 1949 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,920 Speaker 1: It sounds like it already. So I've already had book 1950 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:34,559 Speaker 1: deal offers, but this was before COVID. I never took 1951 01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:36,600 Speaker 1: the deals because I didn't feel like my story was 1952 01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:40,280 Speaker 1: there yet. This is what I'm saying, Like knowing yourself, bro, 1953 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 1: I just felt like, not, okay, yeah, I'm gonna do 1954 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,960 Speaker 1: it from the Bronx and you know, you know, I 1955 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,880 Speaker 1: made a lot of records and sell records, and you know, 1956 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:50,760 Speaker 1: I lost everything, and then I came back to the 1957 01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,479 Speaker 1: web developer and photographer and the DJ and then our 1958 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 1: DJ and the White House and all of this ship. 1959 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,320 Speaker 1: I still didn't feel like the story was there because 1960 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,559 Speaker 1: it wasn't. Those weren't my things. The only thing that 1961 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,040 Speaker 1: was mine with my records other than that, I was 1962 01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,519 Speaker 1: building ship for other people. It wasn't until this hit 1963 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,360 Speaker 1: where it was like, my story is here now because 1964 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 1: what I didn't fucking like really did contribute to inspiring 1965 01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,920 Speaker 1: the world. So like now I feel now my story 1966 01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 1: is there, Like now I'm excited to tell a story. 1967 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,719 Speaker 1: Like And what's what's ill about the I G stuff 1968 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:29,760 Speaker 1: is that itself produced. True, Like nobody produced it for you. No, 1969 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,920 Speaker 1: no club promoter promoted it. It's just self produced. And 1970 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,040 Speaker 1: that's what's so dope about it. I didn't even think 1971 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,640 Speaker 1: about it from that perspective. But you're right, Yeah, you 1972 01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 1: got your daughted a product of credit, right, because I 1973 01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:42,880 Speaker 1: think she was the one telling you who was doing it. 1974 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,120 Speaker 1: My daughter. I know my daughter was. She was because 1975 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know why I wasn't. What 1976 01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,599 Speaker 1: didn't think of this? You know, early on I used 1977 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,280 Speaker 1: to I would stream from my iPhone. So if you 1978 01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:58,799 Speaker 1: have your phone, you know I'm forty nine. So clearly, clearly, 1979 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 1: my my vision is in the you know what I mean, 1980 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:06,559 Speaker 1: Like I'm blind, don't worry turning forty five on Thursday. Yeah, 1981 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't you turn out? Yeah I couldn't see the comments. 1982 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like I couldn't see anything. 1983 01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:17,160 Speaker 1: So my daughter with text me to my iPad, like dad, 1984 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,519 Speaker 1: so nor reason there and this is in there. Like 1985 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,000 Speaker 1: she was just telling me all of the people. And 1986 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:24,920 Speaker 1: then I had to tell I was like, babe, tell 1987 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,280 Speaker 1: me some regular names too, like because I wanted to 1988 01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:32,080 Speaker 1: feel good. So you want here Tom and John. Yeah, 1989 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,400 Speaker 1: she did shoot me over names like but like now 1990 01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like my ship is all I used. 1991 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,680 Speaker 1: I use the iPad, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1992 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,920 Speaker 1: you got like movie lights in that motherfucker, like old 1993 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:46,519 Speaker 1: school movie lights. That's my ceiling. That's my ceiling. Oh 1994 01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:51,240 Speaker 1: you got to lie from Casa Blanca. You know that 1995 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:57,800 Speaker 1: ship was more decorative. That's decorative. Baby. You know when 1996 01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 1: you get a little bit of money, you do you 1997 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:08,400 Speaker 1: buy dumps. It's not even functional. Oh man, no, this 1998 01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 1: is fun. Man. I appreciate you guys. Bro Man, we 1999 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,160 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Bro. I can't even I appreciate you. Bro. No, 2000 01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 1: man really really really bottomed from my heart man, like 2001 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,960 Speaker 1: it couldn't have happened to any better person. Absolutely, um, 2002 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:27,000 Speaker 1: you are absolutely, hands down one of the most genuine 2003 01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:31,280 Speaker 1: humble you. You taught me so much because I watched 2004 01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,400 Speaker 1: you transition from a position from a career to a 2005 01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 1: career and to a to a different thing. Maintain exactly 2006 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 1: who you are, maintain the integrity, and I admire that, 2007 01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:42,920 Speaker 1: and I look up to that, you know what I mean. 2008 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,240 Speaker 1: That's why I seen me. I've seen you and um 2009 01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,439 Speaker 1: shot and uh what was it? Noble? No, but that's 2010 01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,800 Speaker 1: by the way, that's one of my favorite restaurants in 2011 01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:55,720 Speaker 1: the whold planet. Uh, Noble. And I see y'all there 2012 01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I want you on drink. 2013 01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:02,400 Speaker 1: Chance was like and he was kicking it. But you know, um, 2014 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,160 Speaker 1: getting back to the mad at hand. When I've seen 2015 01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,240 Speaker 1: the explosion and I've seen everything that happened, I couldn't 2016 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,799 Speaker 1: everyone from ear Finns for everyone. We were just texting 2017 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,200 Speaker 1: each other and just was just so happy, just happy man. 2018 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:19,880 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm old enough from forty two. Um, I'm 2019 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 1: old enough to remember when it was Eric b and 2020 01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,559 Speaker 1: Rock Kim. I'm old enough to remember with the DJ 2021 01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,760 Speaker 1: actually came before the artist and it was because of 2022 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,080 Speaker 1: that very moment. It reminded reminded me of that. You 2023 01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,120 Speaker 1: know what artists can go up go up for. You 2024 01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,679 Speaker 1: know about half an hour, you know, forty five minutes 2025 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,160 Speaker 1: and just rock their own records. After that, we gotta 2026 01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 1: say goodbye. You was out there six seven hours, not no, no, 2027 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:50,519 Speaker 1: nine dude, half a day. I was not. I was 2028 01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,680 Speaker 1: just playing music. I'm like, Yo, this is Jesus Christmas. 2029 01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 1: You know we don't play nine hours. Man, No, that's 2030 01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,920 Speaker 1: not the normal. I said, you got the hunchback. Yeah, 2031 01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,479 Speaker 1: I got my hunchback from DJ and the club back 2032 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,360 Speaker 1: in the days. Yeah. I'm over here struggling right now. 2033 01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm like the entire time we're talking, I got my 2034 01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 1: eye on this joint right here. Put this on. Well, 2035 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:19,840 Speaker 1: I got one of those two. Yeah, that's that's a 2036 01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:26,720 Speaker 1: massager joint. Looking at you at the crab, I'm like this, 2037 01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, let me tell you what's dope. What's 2038 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,080 Speaker 1: dope about everything you've done and all everything that's come 2039 01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,240 Speaker 1: with it is that you didn't keep it to yourself. 2040 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:44,760 Speaker 1: You put on you put on the ladies, yet you 2041 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,640 Speaker 1: put on your your crew, the originals, the originals. I 2042 01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:51,800 Speaker 1: respected that stretch on strong likes so dope, man um, 2043 01:51:52,560 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 1: can't Tony touch I'm strong the thing, you know, like, man, 2044 01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 1: I never I just wanted to be that person that 2045 01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,320 Speaker 1: I wish someone else was for me back in the 2046 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,559 Speaker 1: day and not have to say that they weren't. Because 2047 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:12,200 Speaker 1: Caress and Scott like you know, guys took a kid 2048 01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,320 Speaker 1: that really didn't know anything about music and gave me 2049 01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,840 Speaker 1: a career, gave me a life, you know. Like so 2050 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,559 Speaker 1: so like yo, I get on, Like yeah, you're supposed 2051 01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,360 Speaker 1: to look out for your boys. Like now we got 2052 01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,519 Speaker 1: a platform. You know, before we had, you know, under 2053 01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,320 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand people. Now it's like two point four 2054 01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,280 Speaker 1: million people. Like why not put your crew on? Like yo, 2055 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,240 Speaker 1: like let them know who this person is or you know. 2056 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,280 Speaker 1: Somebody was like, yo, you should do one for all 2057 01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 1: ladies and I was like, Yo, you know what, that's 2058 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:40,040 Speaker 1: actually dope, Dobe do it. And then I was talking 2059 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,479 Speaker 1: to my boy we worked together with Chappelle. I was like, Yo, 2060 01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,719 Speaker 1: you know what, why don't you why don't you play 2061 01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,639 Speaker 1: jazz on my joint? Like use the full band because 2062 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,680 Speaker 1: he was getting like forty five people in his in 2063 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,320 Speaker 1: his I G Live And I'm like, yo, get at 2064 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 1: least a couple of thousands if you come on this joint, 2065 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,000 Speaker 1: like consistently had like eight thousand people in there just 2066 01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,360 Speaker 1: listening to play Jack and I'm like, you know what, 2067 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,640 Speaker 1: that's all I'm doing is like programmingization now, you know, 2068 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,519 Speaker 1: like and that's how I'm kind of treated, like you know, 2069 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,080 Speaker 1: I like to play my music. But there's a future 2070 01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:13,880 Speaker 1: in that right there, right you know, like hey listen, 2071 01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 1: gon to be a new business. I'm about the pivot again. 2072 01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:30,280 Speaker 1: The constant chairs to Chrislity to man miss I mean 2073 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,760 Speaker 1: I miss him so much? Man? You are you under management? Now? 2074 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,720 Speaker 1: Is there anybody I see? You? Know what I've seen 2075 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,479 Speaker 1: you in the rock Nation? I'm not rock Nation? Um? 2076 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,080 Speaker 1: What was it the other day? It was tas Oh 2077 01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:48,479 Speaker 1: yeah birthday? No? No, no, I'm self managed. I've always 2078 01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,160 Speaker 1: been managed by my company brand nice you know, like 2079 01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,240 Speaker 1: assistance that work with me. I'm never gonna be managed 2080 01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,439 Speaker 1: by anyone. I have no desire to do that. I 2081 01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,000 Speaker 1: have the desire to build my business. Like you know, 2082 01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:02,240 Speaker 1: when you're I I'll be fifty. I can't I can't 2083 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:03,720 Speaker 1: be to do be like, yeah, what are you thinking 2084 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:08,040 Speaker 1: about this deal? Like you already know what you want 2085 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 1: to deal? Yeah? I already know, Like, yeah, I know 2086 01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:12,760 Speaker 1: what I want. So that's not if I'm not gonna 2087 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,080 Speaker 1: get what I want or close to it, then I 2088 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:17,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't do the deal, Like you can't convinced me to 2089 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:20,680 Speaker 1: do that, you know, like and and no manager, And 2090 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,280 Speaker 1: first of all, a manager would have told me to 2091 01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 1: stop DJ online. You just get the check out and 2092 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,120 Speaker 1: been like, yo, you don't even do it anymore. You're 2093 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna be oversaturated, you know. You know what ended up happening. 2094 01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,280 Speaker 1: I ended up with another million followers, you know what 2095 01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, so then that automatically changes all the 2096 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,600 Speaker 1: rates anyway. And I never charged anyone for anything. I 2097 01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,000 Speaker 1: just did what I loved and I followed my instincts, 2098 01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, Like when quarantine is over, the silver lining 2099 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,760 Speaker 1: is that I know that I'll be remembered for doing 2100 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 1: something good for people. And I know that I can 2101 01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,480 Speaker 1: walk away from this knowing that I did this ship 2102 01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,000 Speaker 1: for my heart, you know what I mean? Like like 2103 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 1: like I know that, like there's nothing I can smile 2104 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,120 Speaker 1: when this is all over, Like and yo, like the people, 2105 01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, I read comments to people posting, like you know, 2106 01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people post some slick stuff, and I'm like, yo, 2107 01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away from this feeling like I'm extremely 2108 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,360 Speaker 1: proud that I did not sacrifice myself. I didn't shoot 2109 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,520 Speaker 1: on anyone. I don't speak badly about anyone. And you 2110 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:24,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't I go on to 2111 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,280 Speaker 1: other people's eye g s. I would leave a comment 2112 01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,200 Speaker 1: just because I know people will say something like Yo, 2113 01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,480 Speaker 1: nice in here. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'll 2114 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,440 Speaker 1: put other days into my joint. I do all of that. 2115 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,240 Speaker 1: I will afford people like you know, I'm done for 2116 01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,680 Speaker 1: the day, like today, I did a quick set earlier. 2117 01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:41,840 Speaker 1: As soon as I was done, I knew Maco it 2118 01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 1: was in there, and like, Yo, make sure you're rocking, 2119 01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,200 Speaker 1: like yo, So everybody, Yo, you should go to support Maco. 2120 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,760 Speaker 1: Shut out day La Soul may see. Oh yeah, So 2121 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,000 Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, that's that's I like that, you know 2122 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I like knowing when when this 2123 01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,160 Speaker 1: is all over, Like Yo, be like I did what 2124 01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,720 Speaker 1: I could from my from for my hip hop people 2125 01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,600 Speaker 1: and just for people in don't roll to keep people inspired. Man, 2126 01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I'm grateful to have the opportunity to do so. Yo. Salute, salute, 2127 01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:13,360 Speaker 1: salute man, Salute man. Man. Once again, this is not 2128 01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,120 Speaker 1: like the officially one. This is you know now you 2129 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,600 Speaker 1: have to join us, don't don't. Don't play with us. Man, 2130 01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,000 Speaker 1: come to Miami when it's all over and join you. 2131 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,040 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, wait, I was like, man, I'm 2132 01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:26,480 Speaker 1: supposed to hit up, being like hold on, hold on. 2133 01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,400 Speaker 1: Then I was like yo, why, I was like, why 2134 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:33,360 Speaker 1: are we being bros? Like? Who are we doing? I 2135 01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,240 Speaker 1: wish you could do when you came out here, because 2136 01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,520 Speaker 1: we could have did a great social distance with masks 2137 01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,080 Speaker 1: that still did it in person. But don't worry, no, no, no, 2138 01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:41,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a legit dream Chance. You're gonna get 2139 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 1: ship faced. You're gonna get ship faced. I'll drink Chance, 2140 01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:49,760 Speaker 1: and we want to we want to tech. So hold 2141 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,520 Speaker 1: on here, give me, give me one more minute. I 2142 01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:57,840 Speaker 1: gotta say little people. Yo. Okay, So look now that 2143 01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:04,000 Speaker 1: you said that you produced self destruction, give us give 2144 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 1: us a story from that whole recording session. Damn anything 2145 01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:13,440 Speaker 1: interesting with self self destruction? I mean, were you there 2146 01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,400 Speaker 1: during the whole product, the whole recording of that. The 2147 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,280 Speaker 1: only thing I wasn't there for was for Public Enemy. 2148 01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:22,400 Speaker 1: They they sent the two I'm about to ask you about, 2149 01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:26,080 Speaker 1: to be specifically about Heavy D. Yeah, I was there 2150 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,520 Speaker 1: for head. I was there like the first day was 2151 01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:30,480 Speaker 1: everyone was in there though, you know the first day 2152 01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:34,640 Speaker 1: like everybody came to that session. Yeah, we when we 2153 01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,720 Speaker 1: first started working on it, like we were at Chunking studios, 2154 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, like L was there because l I was 2155 01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,720 Speaker 1: writing Light's part, you know what I mean, Like it 2156 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 1: was just we haven't compete doing. But why wasn't L 2157 01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:52,280 Speaker 1: on it? I don't know. I mean he wrote he 2158 01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:57,640 Speaker 1: lights Ryan, Yeah, he wrote my girl then get comfortable 2159 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,240 Speaker 1: DJ life bro. Yeah, listen, we got I got it 2160 01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:09,840 Speaker 1: at the crib? What what is? What is? What does 2161 01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:13,760 Speaker 1: your bridge dues by'all identify with that? This is not ship? 2162 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,680 Speaker 1: You can buy a ship nine all right now, Yeah, 2163 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:22,520 Speaker 1: it don't look for exactly you need this man. Yeah, man, 2164 01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,240 Speaker 1: that ship, that ship. If you can't go to Masseus, 2165 01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:27,400 Speaker 1: that ship got you. I got some other ship that 2166 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:31,320 Speaker 1: goes the roller. That's that rich dude ship you got 2167 01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:41,080 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, so Nori listen he said that self destruction. 2168 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:45,720 Speaker 1: Almost all of it was one session. That's crazy. Not 2169 01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:49,800 Speaker 1: all know like it hap it started in like one session. 2170 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,800 Speaker 1: That's bana. Just to think about all those I mean 2171 01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,840 Speaker 1: I know that right now. It's difficult to think about 2172 01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,360 Speaker 1: all artists in a studio together, but to think about 2173 01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:03,720 Speaker 1: those iconic Let's Dairy artists all in that studio doing 2174 01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:07,080 Speaker 1: that record is crazy. Man. Yeah, but we weren't iconic 2175 01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:10,760 Speaker 1: then though, you know, I don't care, don't don't ruin 2176 01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: my my vision of this right now. Yeah, you know 2177 01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,680 Speaker 1: we weren't iconic then. You know, this is really feel 2178 01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 1: like I got some like let's like you got a 2179 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:23,320 Speaker 1: boat constrictor around your neck right now, just like I'm 2180 01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,800 Speaker 1: like a Diddy's mansion. I got somebody handling this one. 2181 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to or a drinking. That was my 2182 01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:34,880 Speaker 1: other question, what's your most um awkward? This party like 2183 01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:38,760 Speaker 1: a party of ever just awkward? You just got you 2184 01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,840 Speaker 1: went to DJ and the ship was just probably just 2185 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:48,120 Speaker 1: sh I forgot. I don't even have one, honestly, Like, yeah, 2186 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if any awkward parties. Man, 2187 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 1: I forget. I had a party one time, I forget 2188 01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:56,000 Speaker 1: what was like one of these guys that holds I 2189 01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,480 Speaker 1: think it was Johnny Carson or one of them guy's sons, 2190 01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:03,160 Speaker 1: And it was like just crazy. It was a balloon party. 2191 02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:11,320 Speaker 1: So we went in it was just never experienced like that. 2192 02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm creaking Crystal and it just loves everywhere and I 2193 02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:20,600 Speaker 1: just it was like that was a little walker for me. Yeah, yeah, 2194 02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,520 Speaker 1: that sounds crazy. And I've never had one of the 2195 02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:27,840 Speaker 1: party with Johnny Carson, so like I think it's Johnny 2196 02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Carson's son. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, no, no, 2197 02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:35,640 Speaker 1: not damn. I'm yeah. I've never had anything weird, man, 2198 02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:40,360 Speaker 1: I really listen, I don't. My DJ career has been outstanding. Bro. 2199 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,680 Speaker 1: You like festivals the South bast Southwest as you like that. 2200 02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:45,640 Speaker 1: My sneakers always get messed up every time I go 2201 02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:49,240 Speaker 1: to it. Like that's like like the festival. I just 2202 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,360 Speaker 1: like watching people dance, man, you know, like having watching 2203 02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,160 Speaker 1: people have a good time and really like and just 2204 02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:58,200 Speaker 1: celebrate music. You know, I can't wait for this to 2205 02:00:58,200 --> 02:00:59,960 Speaker 1: be over because I want to hit the stage, you know. 2206 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Like my gold morning Man is like our goal is 2207 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:08,160 Speaker 1: to play the Hollywood Bowl mm hmmm, because it's an 2208 02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,120 Speaker 1: outdoor space. And I feel like during this time of COVID, 2209 02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,480 Speaker 1: people have gotten closer to their families, Like people listening 2210 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,680 Speaker 1: to my music with their families. People put on the systems, 2211 02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:21,360 Speaker 1: play the same music with their kids, and they'll send 2212 02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,720 Speaker 1: me images and videos dancing with their kids. So it's 2213 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:27,560 Speaker 1: like I need to be that type of person that 2214 02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:32,640 Speaker 1: would be playing amphitheaters, you know what I'm saying, Like 2215 02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:36,160 Speaker 1: instead of like worried about like nightclubs, I'm playing amphitheaters 2216 02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,400 Speaker 1: and people are coming out with their families, you know, 2217 02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and like so as soon as I said that, like 2218 02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, now Rogers from she hit me like, Yo, 2219 02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:46,280 Speaker 1: you really want to do Hollywood Bowl? I was like, yeah, 2220 02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:50,680 Speaker 1: I want Hollywood Ball. I want you, I want Chic. 2221 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I was like, yeo, I just want to Holly Ball. 2222 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I forget didn't didn't mirrors or somebody through festival how 2223 02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,680 Speaker 1: to be a ball? Oh? I don't know. I think 2224 02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,440 Speaker 1: so not sure for guy, but yeah, it's like outdoors, 2225 02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:05,040 Speaker 1: people come with their wine, Like that's the kind of 2226 02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:09,440 Speaker 1: vibe I see drinking your wine. Like yo, yeah tonight, 2227 02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm on a spade. What is a spade? That? Okay, 2228 02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:16,879 Speaker 1: tonight I'm on a spad. You know what I'm saying. 2229 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully hold watching this, you know what I'm saying, We 2230 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:24,640 Speaker 1: keeping it, keeping it, keeping it, yeah, and just in case, 2231 02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, we know, did he watch it too. You 2232 02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:30,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'll keep you the humbers 2233 02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:35,200 Speaker 1: they're watching too, I'll keeping it in house. Look look, okay, 2234 02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:39,400 Speaker 1: little we gotta do say two got I was trying 2235 02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:42,800 Speaker 1: not to mix. Man, you know I started started drinking dark. Yeah, 2236 02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I've been drinking water. That's why I've been drinking water 2237 02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:47,400 Speaker 1: on goddamn day. But when we said we got you 2238 02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:50,520 Speaker 1: on here, I said, man, we gotta we got Donely 2239 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:52,760 Speaker 1: on too. Just in Jays did he look Jesus Christ, 2240 02:02:52,680 --> 02:03:02,720 Speaker 1: look here, don't okay? Hold on? So life life, life 2241 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:05,880 Speaker 1: as a new d nice is it is there because 2242 02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,840 Speaker 1: there's people who only know me from being podcasting, right 2243 02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,800 Speaker 1: there's people that only like I remember how to show 2244 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:14,680 Speaker 1: in San Francisco And I'm walking to the stage and 2245 02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:16,400 Speaker 1: the kid looks at me like what are you doing? 2246 02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Why are you going to the stage And I'm like, 2247 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to perform. He's like, you're doing a podcast 2248 02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:23,839 Speaker 1: right now. And I'm like no, I'm going to perform. 2249 02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:26,760 Speaker 1: And the kid had no idea, you know, r e 2250 02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:30,360 Speaker 1: the actual artists. And then I performed and he's like 2251 02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:37,960 Speaker 1: those are your songs? Like like I'm like, yeah, they're 2252 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,280 Speaker 1: like He's like, oh, ship, there's people who just know 2253 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,680 Speaker 1: is there people just to know you from like a 2254 02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:47,720 Speaker 1: certain part of your So the funny thing is UM 2255 02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:52,480 Speaker 1: one of the clients agencies. She she called me one 2256 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,320 Speaker 1: day and she was like, yo, Haneken wants to work 2257 02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,680 Speaker 1: with you. Oh no, Hankin keeps calling about the rapper 2258 02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,840 Speaker 1: D Nice, but I keep telling them we only know 2259 02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the d J D Knights, and I just felt out. 2260 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Lu I was like, the same person, you should charge 2261 02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:12,040 Speaker 1: to different rates. You should be like, yo, I I 2262 02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:17,200 Speaker 1: could book you the rapper and the DJ get paid 2263 02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:23,320 Speaker 1: twice twice. Their fault, not yours. I was like, Dave, 2264 02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:25,600 Speaker 1: I am the rapper D Knights, I just DJ now. 2265 02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I used to wrap back the day. She looked at me. 2266 02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,000 Speaker 1: She was like you, I can't even see it. You're 2267 02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:36,040 Speaker 1: a rapper. Oh man, No, it's just there's a lot 2268 02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:37,320 Speaker 1: of people just like there are a lot of people 2269 02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:42,000 Speaker 1: that rediscovered me. You look to give a million followers 2270 02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:45,000 Speaker 1: in a day is insane. I don't have a record out. 2271 02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't have a record out at all, and then 2272 02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:53,440 Speaker 1: one day a million followers is absolutely the most insane thing. 2273 02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:56,280 Speaker 1: They were like, we've never seen numbers like bro like that, Like, 2274 02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, you could be crazy to put out a 2275 02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:02,040 Speaker 1: record now out down. You know the DJ project is coming, 2276 02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:15,240 Speaker 1: don't Yeah, yeah, that's something Chris likey. That's like, I 2277 02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:17,720 Speaker 1: don't know, and you know what the goal would be 2278 02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:21,120 Speaker 1: me looking from the outside in to keep that same 2279 02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:23,840 Speaker 1: energy and the thing about it is right, sorry to 2280 02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:25,760 Speaker 1: be like to break down, but I'm gonna tell you 2281 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,920 Speaker 1: how just how I look at it. To me, DJ 2282 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:33,160 Speaker 1: Camillo is probably one of the best international club DJs 2283 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,720 Speaker 1: when every international was in there, I think DJ Camillo 2284 02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:38,520 Speaker 1: was one of the best. I think just on a 2285 02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:43,400 Speaker 1: party tips. No, there's nobody mess on the radio. I 2286 02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:46,680 Speaker 1: don't think there's nobody messing with Flex in the morning time. 2287 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,680 Speaker 1: There's nobody messing with dj MB. When it comes to 2288 02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:54,360 Speaker 1: global music, there's nobody that can mess with d nights 2289 02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Like I like, there's anybody that I could walk into 2290 02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,320 Speaker 1: the party, You're gonna please them because you have a 2291 02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:04,600 Speaker 1: certain niche. You're playing a type of music that the 2292 02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:08,400 Speaker 1: hardcore dude is gonna like, the soft person in the 2293 02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:12,600 Speaker 1: room is gonna like and like you know, the median 2294 02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:17,440 Speaker 1: person is gonna like how did you develop that? Because 2295 02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:19,520 Speaker 1: of that story that I shared earlier when the hip 2296 02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:21,160 Speaker 1: hop all I wanted to do is play hip hop records, 2297 02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:23,400 Speaker 1: and hip hop dudes wouldn't let me in because like 2298 02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, like the other round, you know what I'm saying, 2299 02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Like the only person even listen. This is not no 2300 02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:34,560 Speaker 1: disrespect to the originals, because you know, Clark Kent and 2301 02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:36,560 Speaker 1: all those guys are like my best friends, like we 2302 02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:40,600 Speaker 1: talk every day. But the first person that ever look 2303 02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:44,480 Speaker 1: out for me as a DJ was DJ Scratch. He 2304 02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:45,960 Speaker 1: was like, yo when I called him, I was like, 2305 02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:48,920 Speaker 1: m D bust a rhyme DJ. Just for anybody who 2306 02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:52,560 Speaker 1: doesn't know, yes, yes, so um. He was the first 2307 02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:54,600 Speaker 1: person that was like when I called him, I was like, yo, 2308 02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming back on the scene, DJ, and 2309 02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:00,320 Speaker 1: I got a little party I'm doing on winds Days. 2310 02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:01,960 Speaker 1: That's when you know, back in the day you had 2311 02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,320 Speaker 1: to like name your ship after like Candy Bars and 2312 02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:08,520 Speaker 1: all that ship good and Plenty Fridays and New Days 2313 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:14,080 Speaker 1: and all. So I was like, enjoy Sunday. Yeah exactly. 2314 02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I think my ships super Fly Wednesdays photo shot my 2315 02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:25,520 Speaker 1: face on like super Fly, Like you know what I 2316 02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,400 Speaker 1: was like on the super Fly Wednesdays. So Scratch Scratch 2317 02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:30,480 Speaker 1: was the first person man and that that hundred and 2318 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,560 Speaker 1: fifty dollars that they gave me. I was like, yo, 2319 02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:34,080 Speaker 1: it's all I offered him. And he was like, no, 2320 02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. I don't need that, bro, I'm good. I 2321 02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,600 Speaker 1: just wanted to rock with you. And like he came, 2322 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,520 Speaker 1: it was ten people in there. It was in people 2323 02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,760 Speaker 1: in there, bro like and then and I will never 2324 02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,240 Speaker 1: forget this. There was a woman that came every week 2325 02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,960 Speaker 1: to my party with her husband. It was him to 2326 02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,920 Speaker 1: twenty people every single week. And that woman said to me. 2327 02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:56,280 Speaker 1: She she's a professor at m y U. Her husband's 2328 02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:59,280 Speaker 1: a firefighter. And she said to me one day, she 2329 02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:01,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know why we come because no matter 2330 02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:03,720 Speaker 1: how many people are here, you still look like you're 2331 02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:07,240 Speaker 1: having fun. You look like you're having fun and your 2332 02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:11,000 Speaker 1: energy is infectious. And I never ever forgot that. So 2333 02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,720 Speaker 1: even when I'm tired, they're nice. When I'm dead tired, 2334 02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't eve want a DJ like I didn't even 2335 02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,760 Speaker 1: want to play last night. I got on it like 2336 02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:22,760 Speaker 1: midnight out here because one of my friends, she's super dope. 2337 02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:25,720 Speaker 1: She's been guiding me through this whole process. Of like 2338 02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, social media and handling, you know. And she 2339 02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:31,360 Speaker 1: was just like she brought up like Chico the bars 2340 02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I've never even played a 2341 02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:39,800 Speaker 1: T Barge record. I think right now, do you do it? Yeah? Yeah, 2342 02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:44,320 Speaker 1: r E album. I gotta go. I gotta revisit that. 2343 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I saw it online just to play. She go on 2344 02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to bars like eight thousands people in there. I'm like, damn, uh, 2345 02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting on in a minute. It was 2346 02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:55,640 Speaker 1: we're done with this, I'm doing. You don't do an 2347 02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:59,880 Speaker 1: after party? Well, drenk chance, that's a party with d night. 2348 02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:06,320 Speaker 1: We words and the words of what's the guy? Forget 2349 02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,080 Speaker 1: the guys. But if you got the juice now, buddy, 2350 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:14,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you ain't never yeah, man, 2351 02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:19,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't be like I said, you know. Um, I 2352 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,040 Speaker 1: started this interview off with with with uh saying with 2353 02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:25,360 Speaker 1: me and fact Joe say on the side, and we 2354 02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:27,640 Speaker 1: was like like you know, when we when we just 2355 02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:29,320 Speaker 1: built like you know what I mean, it was like, 2356 02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's any DJ that can be able to 2357 02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:34,560 Speaker 1: get like a million dollars show like this one show 2358 02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:39,520 Speaker 1: a million we played and hope that it's you. You 2359 02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:48,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, got that getting keep getting it. 2360 02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:52,320 Speaker 1: It's you. I don't even not hope it's you. It's you. 2361 02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,520 Speaker 1: And like like I said, Man, we could go on 2362 02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:59,000 Speaker 1: the arm for hours and days and days. I just 2363 02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:03,440 Speaker 1: want to thank you, man, but time you appreciate and 2364 02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:06,360 Speaker 1: staying who you are and holding down our culture. And 2365 02:10:06,520 --> 02:10:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, besides, you know me as as as Nori 2366 02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:13,720 Speaker 1: uh the artist and e f n of the artist, 2367 02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, as a person, I was. I lived to 2368 02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:21,200 Speaker 1: these moments and you're getting on there and just jamming 2369 02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. And like you know, 2370 02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:25,400 Speaker 1: we were really stuck in. He was taking this serious 2371 02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:29,040 Speaker 1: as every other American should as well. We were taking 2372 02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:34,320 Speaker 1: this very very serious. And um, you kept us alive, man, 2373 02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:38,040 Speaker 1: you said, you sincerely did man and do the music 2374 02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:40,800 Speaker 1: and you you just you heal the country, bro, That's 2375 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:44,040 Speaker 1: basically what you've been doing. You help. Like I heard 2376 02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:45,680 Speaker 1: a person, I heard a person, you know when that 2377 02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:49,440 Speaker 1: person say um, such in the house, and then they'd 2378 02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,120 Speaker 1: be like such in the building, and then some such. 2379 02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:54,320 Speaker 1: I've never heard somebody to say such such in the 2380 02:10:54,360 --> 02:11:00,080 Speaker 1: planning like you were in the planet dude, Like I 2381 02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:04,360 Speaker 1: don't know what his party. I know his party next 2382 02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to a nigga in Moscow, like I smelling people under arms. 2383 02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:12,840 Speaker 1: I knew that, wo, Like I want to put it 2384 02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:19,320 Speaker 1: from because because your party, brother, and you love you man, 2385 02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:22,320 Speaker 1: drink chats forever and we look forward to you being 2386 02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:28,840 Speaker 1: here with us in person. Ye man, Man, seriously, thank 2387 02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:36,720 Speaker 1: you for following up, brom. Appreciate you. Peace. I killed 2388 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:45,360 Speaker 1: that with us right now. Look at you, But like 2389 02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,360 Speaker 1: you already to, You're not my guy. You're not my 2390 02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:52,280 Speaker 1: freaking dad. Are you talking to me like that? Bro? 2391 02:11:52,760 --> 02:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Who are you? Yo? Yeah? Drop John, Okay, we're gonna recap. Yeah, 2392 02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:02,840 Speaker 1: let's do it. You know what's going on? Man, that 2393 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:06,400 Speaker 1: was a great one, bro, Yo. We had fucking we 2394 02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:09,680 Speaker 1: had Guilly the kid. The kid, Okay, let me just 2395 02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,840 Speaker 1: punt it out there. Came through the last minute. Were 2396 02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:15,240 Speaker 1: supposed to have a different guest. We're not gonna say that. 2397 02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:18,320 Speaker 1: A huge guest, huge guest, and it doesn't it doesn't 2398 02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:21,760 Speaker 1: diminish his huge doesn't diminish it because you know, Silly 2399 02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,720 Speaker 1: is right there out there busting the ask doing this 2400 02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:30,080 Speaker 1: goddamn thing. Yeah, yeah, you know and pause. And we 2401 02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:33,320 Speaker 1: had the legendary d j D. Nice Man, legendary Rappid. 2402 02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, I got hyped. I washoographer. That was extremely hype. Um, 2403 02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:41,000 Speaker 1: you know so much hips to be there man, from 2404 02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,240 Speaker 1: BDP to wherever you want to go with it. Guys crazy, 2405 02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:49,360 Speaker 1: he told us that he produced self destruction. I feel 2406 02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:52,560 Speaker 1: like I'm not hip hop. I don't I didn't know that. No, 2407 02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:54,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't 2408 02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:56,280 Speaker 1: know that. I still feel hip hop, but I didn't 2409 02:12:56,280 --> 02:12:58,880 Speaker 1: know that. I feel my hip hop card. And I 2410 02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,120 Speaker 1: gave it back to myself. I took it away back 2411 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,560 Speaker 1: and get right back to my stuff and get back 2412 02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:06,760 Speaker 1: to yourself. In the morning, you're back to night. Put it, 2413 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,480 Speaker 1: put it verry be at and then you go back 2414 02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,680 Speaker 1: to the morning. It was it was ethic, man, it 2415 02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:15,480 Speaker 1: was the nicest is like, well, people don't understand. It's 2416 02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:18,680 Speaker 1: like he is, He's out of here. You know what. 2417 02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:21,840 Speaker 1: Let's just say this. Both of those brothers man, you know, 2418 02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:25,440 Speaker 1: Gilly and d Knights, two humble brothers that has had 2419 02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:29,160 Speaker 1: a chance to come to the fourth transcend. Gilly, you know, 2420 02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, Um was out there being a wrap up 2421 02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:34,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, had a little dry spell and 2422 02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:37,760 Speaker 1: then look Flora's to the front. D Knights told you 2423 02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:40,320 Speaker 1: about his little dry sprout looking at it flooras to 2424 02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:43,440 Speaker 1: the front. And we were happy to to to support 2425 02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:46,840 Speaker 1: them in the beginning, in the middle, and and and 2426 02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:50,920 Speaker 1: and and I don't never start. Uh, We'll never stop supporting. 2427 02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's exactly what we do. Man. So 2428 02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,480 Speaker 1: God damn it, man, I'm gonna finish this and I'm 2429 02:13:57,480 --> 02:14:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna spray my crib down because us and opened the windows. Yeah, 2430 02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:04,360 Speaker 1: I got boars he's dirty, man boards dirty right now. 2431 02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Jesus salute man. Another great show man Champs, expect your 2432 02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:20,760 Speaker 1: what are you expecting? Bro? Twins? So yeah, leave me alone. 2433 02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:24,960 Speaker 1: I think it's three of them. Get out of my face. 2434 02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I love you. Study Thanks for joining us for another 2435 02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:36,600 Speaker 1: episode of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly, d J 2436 02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:39,280 Speaker 1: e f N and n R E. Please make sure 2437 02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,640 Speaker 1: to follow us on all our socials. Let's at Drink 2438 02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Champs across all platforms. 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