1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm not bro, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: what he likes to ship. Thank you, steven A. Smith. 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: This is Rashan McDonald. I'm the host of Money Making 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Conversation dot com. Leave with your gifts and don't let 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: your age, friends, family and coworkers stop you from planning 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: and living your dream. I want you to stop tripping 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: over small challenges and prepare the rise above the bigger 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: obstacles that life will present to you. My Money Making 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Conversation dot Com guests this week at Lynn and David E. Taper. 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: They are directing and producing the hit Netflix musical Jingle Jangle, 16 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: A Christmas Journey a Reba Martin. She's an award winning 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: civil rights attorney and CNN Alla will down him The 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: Prints of Sophisticated Soul and Shanda Scott CEO of three 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: sixty Total Concept, where she manages one point seven billion 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: dollars in projects. Visit money Making Conversation dot com right 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: now I with Sean McDonald. My interviews are free. They 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: can change your life great. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: I am your host, Rashawn McDonald. It is important to 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: understand that everybody travels a different path to success. That's 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: because your brand is different. The challenges you facing your 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: life are different. So stop reading other people's success stories 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: and start writing your own now. You could be motivated 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: by their success because their stories can offer direction and 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: help you reach your goals through your planning, but also 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: through your committed effort. Always are matter is about you 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: when you sit down and set these goals and make 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: these dreams possible, It's going to be about you in 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: the relationships that you create. I'm gonna introduce a relationship 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I've had long time ago. My next guests are writing, directing, producing, 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Power Couple Land and David E. Tabo. They currently have 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: trending on Netflix. They told me already thirty two countries 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: they've been number one. They've got premiered in a hundred 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: and ninety countries. Netflix Jingle Jangle A Cristmas Story, a 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: live action musical. Their digital film critics include you may 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: be familiar with these first Sunday Back Exclaimed, Almost Christmas 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: and El Camino Christmas. They're also releasing two books, The 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Square Root of Possible, A Jingle Jango Story is a 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: picture book for ages four through eight, and Jingle Jangle 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: with the Invention of Gerona Doronicus A Jangle is a 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: middle grade novel for ages eight through twelve. Please Work 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: with the money Making conversation My man and my Lady, 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I said, I said my first lay the first lady 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: then and David E. Tawn. You know the beauty of it, 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: because I have a fantastic relationship with Netflix. They just 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: sit in the movie I put in the past where 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I just get them first out. And so every since 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: this movie on a rate, I've been trying to get 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: to you. I've been trying to get to you because 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I just wanted to, first of all, to let you 55 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: know how much I love you and also how much 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: I you know, even before I saw the movie, how 57 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: proud I've been up our relationship and what you've done, 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, all the way back to Radio DJ. You know, 59 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: play right, you know, sitting in the l A go 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: just just making our own dreams come to. Many stories 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: we had back in you in l A when you 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: was when you was relaunching your your plays back and 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: then always been a fan of you and just watching 64 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: your story and then being introduced to Lend and her story. 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: I just wanted to just tell you, Man, I love 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: you too. And meeting the first lady officially again, but 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: also with our history, Man has always been powerful and 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: just seeing the project that you put out and and 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: the thing I love about Netflix is that, you know, 70 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: we always have a hard time trying to get black 71 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: projects seen nationally internationally. You know, they always kicked out 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: as domestic products. And then when it goes internationally, oh well, 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, we may take you to the Caribbean, we 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: may throw your bone and send you to South Africa. 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: But no, no, But Netflix A hundred and naty countries 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: is where your project premiers. Tell us about that that 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: response and the reaction, and it's been you know, Len 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: and I've been been caring this for a while, but man, 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: just go seeing your brother and thank you for everything 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: over the year. Brother, You've always reached out. You didn't 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: have to and and and and pull the brother up 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: man and gave me a voice and a platform. So 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: just thank you man for all the year what you've 84 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: done for artists like myself and giving him a voice 85 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: and the platform. So thank you brother. Well he has 86 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: a great voice to lend. You know, well, you know 87 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the whole project you know of a musical, you know 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: that is always not that's that's non traditional. You know, 89 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: usually have action adventures in black movies, comedies and black movies, 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: but musical is non traditional. Tell us that whole setting 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: it up and selling it to the studios and bringing 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: it forth because this is not something that's done in 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: a year. This is a time consumed project. Well you 94 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: know it's it's uh the responsible and overwhelming man. You know, 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: we've been we've been working on this for decades and 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: you know with the vision was always to invite us 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: to the table of big event. Uh, the world's a 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: wonder in magic, you know, watching Harry Potter and watching 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Willie Wonka and watching you know, Kitty Kitty Bangs Mary Coppins. 100 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: Ain't know none of us ever in in the world, 101 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: and so that was an idea too. You know, we 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: imagine we imagine for you know, kids that look like 103 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: us all around the world can see themselves as as 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: as wonderful and magical and all that stuff. So that 105 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: was really kind of the spirit. And when I got 106 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: a chance to watch, you know, growing up watching The 107 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Wiz and that just you know, you know, that just 108 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: blew me away. With Michael Jackson and Diana Ross. I 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: always wanted to do something that was original, that that 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: could really you know, heighten our imagination and and and 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the plays were musical that we've done for so many years. 112 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: They were musical, all musical based plays, been playing around 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: music for twenty years. And Netflix came along, you know, 114 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: when we had our son Lynn had we didn't have 115 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: our son Len had, but when he came along, it 116 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's time to put something out there 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: for him to see people that look like him. And 118 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: that was really when it started to become from doing 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: it as a Broadway play to doing it as a 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: future right. Yes, um, that's that's really the basis of 121 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: it all, you know, wanting to feed our inner child 122 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: as well representation. You know, it's very important, as you mentioned, 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: about being part of the world and not just domestically 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: and that's where we're getting most. A lot of the response, 125 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, is from the world, and I mean moms 126 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: and mothers especially, but just everyone coming to me saying Lynn, 127 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: that is me as me. You don't know what that 128 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: means to me, you know, just in tears, grown men 129 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: in tears, being tapping into that inner child, something that 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: they didn't know that they wanted to see and feel. 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: So it's it's been amazing to have an opportunity like 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: this and Netflix really got behind us as far as 133 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: the story that we wanted to tell and the visual 134 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: that we wanted to see. And um, you know it, 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: I say, David's being modest, but I feel like we 136 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: did this project in record time. If you compare it 137 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: to many of the projects like this, you know, um, 138 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: in record time, like from where we didn't have a 139 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: song from day one to complete this in the matter 140 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: of two years. It's it's it's unbelievable. But it's our 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: theater background that has helped us, you know, maneuver through 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: things quickly and to get things done quickly because we 143 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: hadn't had the luxury a budget and time, you know. 144 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: So um, that's kind of how we roll and just 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: really grateful and exciting and proud when when you use 146 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: the word inner child, the young lady who played the 147 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: role with Journey madlanles Um. You know, I get to 148 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: see talent, you know, the growing up talented. But what 149 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: did you guys find her? Was it the casting session 150 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: all you just said she's the one because she was phenomenal. Yeah, 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: we're flewing the new We did a worldwide talent search 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: flewing in New York. Um we live down to five finalists. 153 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: When we flew in there and I walked in there 154 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: with Seawan and she didn't come there to audition. She 155 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: came tore to take what was hers and it was undeniable. 156 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't even a fair fight, you know. And that 157 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: little girl is everything. I mean, we're looking at Shirley 158 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Temple and Judy Garland, we're looking at all of that 159 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: kind of magic and one there um and someone who's 160 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: like an old soul and a young person's body right right, 161 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: and you got it and then that's what you know, 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: like that build out and that that's what impressed me 163 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: so much. But like let's go with Lynn said, you know, 164 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: two years what sound stage did you guys use? What 165 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: was this shot at It was shot in London and 166 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the stages were called arbor Field. We actually it used 167 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: to be an army base and we took over the 168 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. You know. We had one section where certain 169 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: sets were wrong. We had another section we were doing stunts. 170 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: We had another section for offices, another section for props. 171 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: So we had the full basis where they like Star 172 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Trek and Aladdin. Um So we were among good company, 173 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, coming in there. But first of all, I'm 174 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: not gonna let y'all be humble here on this project, 175 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: you know, because that's why I wanted to say, what 176 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: sound stage, Because I know if you have not seen 177 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the movie Jingle Jangle, it's on Netflix, a Christmas story, 178 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: you could this journey, excuse me, And it starts out 179 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: in the beginning with a very elaborate dance sequence that 180 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: just set the tone, you know, just like I said, 181 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to guy, I'm just looking at your David Gorn. 182 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: You know, my wife and I love being who I 183 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: am because you know, when you when you see people 184 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: at work, you go, that's my board right there, I see, 185 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm when I'm walking through the sequence. 186 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: How do you, David put the dance sequence there was 187 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: on the ladder, they came down, they come off the ladder, 188 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: they're singing, just walking through that whole step process of 189 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: storyboarding out that. Then they go outside they dancing, you 190 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: know that all that. You know, like, you know, I'm 191 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: just sitting up there. I'm just sitting up there, David going, 192 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me. And then y'all sitting 193 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: up at Linneau where you know we just get kids. 194 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: You're like, you're like my board known for forty years 195 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: and you seen me all my life. He's like, dude, 196 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: he was like, son, this is like a real movie. 197 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: You made, like a real movie. I'm like, I made 198 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot of movies and know, yeah, like this is 199 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: like a movie movie. But I took I watched the 200 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: movie The Greatest Showman, which I loved the choreography. So 201 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: I hired the choreographer, Ashley Walland who did that movie, 202 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Brother from Australia, and so he came in and we 203 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: just talked about scaled and scope, and we talked about 204 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: all those MGM musicals from you know, the early days 205 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: of the fifties and forties and all that you Oliver 206 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yeah, where you saw a full 207 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: body dancing, and that's what I said. I wanted to 208 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: be a spectacle. Um because if you ask any any 209 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: black person with their favor musical, and they're gonna all 210 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: say the Wind, Yes, that's crazy. I mean that's forty 211 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: years ago. So but I wanted to make something that 212 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: was a spectacle, something that was big, something that when 213 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: you saw it, and I would tell my friends all 214 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: the time, like, you know, this is something. You know, 215 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: this is pretty big movie, like oh man, bless you, day, 216 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: God bless you. It's gonna be one of the days 217 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: place ain't doing one of his play you know, you know, Sean, 218 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: I just couldn't put it in. But but when I 219 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: showed that first scene and people doing back to cameras 220 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: up here, you know, stepping off, then you get it. 221 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: But it was it was just a vision of wanting 222 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: to present us as in the best possible, the boldest, 223 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: most beautiful, vibrant light. And when it came to the costumes, 224 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: even then, um, you know it's a Victorian era. So 225 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: our costume design was like, Okay, we're gonna do the 226 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: costumes in the Victorian era, and then well, I look 227 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: for us, we're looking at the period. So for me, 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we're only maybe one or two 229 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: generations from your ancestors, so that to me would have 230 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: been infused. And I just wanted to just glorify our 231 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: beauty and our heritage and our hairstyles and fabrics and 232 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: all of those things within this period. I wanted something 233 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: original that you've never seen, but it was still as 234 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: vibrant and colorful as The Wizard of Oz and all 235 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: the movies that we would see that would just be 236 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: it would just pop off the screen, you know, but 237 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: so rooted in and grounded, you know, because if you notice, 238 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like like we would all wear those clothes, 239 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, look like a costume. It looked like there 240 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: they're they're African in there, you know. And so that's 241 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: really what it what it was. I wanted to highlight 242 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: just the beauty of us so that it could be normalized, 243 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, and we see it every day walking on 244 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the street. You see it going here everywhere else. Why 245 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: can't we see it on the big screen. You're listening 246 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: to money making conversations with Rashan McDonald. We'll be right back. 247 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: Cars today are like a computer on wheels, but you 248 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: can fix any of these new features yourself, so when 249 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: something breaks, it could cause you a fortune, and now 250 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: it's not the time for expensive repairs. That's why you 251 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: need car Shield. 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Okay, so 271 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I was in Forest Whittaker way back in the day 272 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: when he did Uh Jason's lyric. I had a little 273 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: small role with far I'm just throwing a little credit back. 274 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: And then I was fast fraid of the tap dancer, 275 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: the crackhead tap dancers. So so I go a little 276 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: back back. But what I didn't know was that far 277 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: As Whitnaker hold a note. That's what I didn't though, 278 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I did not know that talk to us about you know, 279 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give away the story, but definitely 280 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: that that that that that moved me in a good way. 281 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: The the the the special effects. You know, like I said, 282 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: your boy, your boy was talking about this a movie movie. 283 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, when you see a Star Wars, that's you know, 284 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the special effects. That's a movie. That's that's not just 285 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: a that's not like open range and you're riding on 286 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a horse. That's all he's saying. The special effects, the costume, 287 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: the snow looked like snow. You know what I'm saying. 288 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: The special effects look real, the singing was seamless, didn't 289 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: look like they were lip sinking all that that. Nobody 290 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: looked like that. They was out of sink. And all 291 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: this was he That's all he was saying. It's the 292 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: ultimate compliment. When you see something that's you know, it's special. 293 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: You can't put a word on it. You know, professionally, 294 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: you go, hey, man, whatever, you guys, whatever was invested 295 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: in that movie. I saw it on the screen. I 296 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: saw it in the storyline. I saw it in the edity, 297 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: I saw it in the music. I saw in the 298 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: in the in the in the you know, because every 299 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: story has to have momentum, you know, and they had momentum, 300 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: and they had reason to care that that that that's 301 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: beautiful man, that and so so. But you guys are 302 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: the creators and I am the participant. What got you there? 303 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: You know you said two years, but you know it's 304 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: it's rewrites is sometimes questioning your decisions working with the 305 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: studio in its case, Netflix, How how did that? How 306 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: did that journey get you there? David? And well, well, 307 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: for me, it's it's everything's attention to detail. Were talking 308 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: about the visual effects, and you talked about the c 309 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: g I character in the story book that the gears, 310 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: that everything, the hair, the costume. You know when I 311 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: when I would come to the studio with you, and 312 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: if I was I remember one time I was about 313 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: seven minutes later, we're going to break and I said, shot, 314 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm here and running a little bit. Ladies, I don't 315 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: know what you missed it break brother here, Yeah, no, 316 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: I understand, you'll get it next time. To the result, 317 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: I got to sell tickets here. I understand that. I 318 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: told you seven o'clock. We gotta business, we gotta file. 319 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: But he let me know that that the detail in 320 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: the level of knowing your worth, knowing your value, knowing 321 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: what you're here to do, and making sure that you 322 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: crossed every eye that you cross, every tea dot, every eye. 323 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: That's who I went witnessed with you. When we're doing 324 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: the place in l A. You would come sitting back 325 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: and that look here, brother, I like the scene. But 326 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: now you can do blah blah blah blah blah blah 327 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: and so but and so. What we took from from 328 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: watching people like you build empires, build businesses detail and 329 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: it's it's with this opportunity, with this budget, this landscape 330 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: that Netflix gave us. I wasn't trying to just get 331 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: in here and and and pop my collar and beat 332 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: my chest about how big the budget was. You gave 333 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: me ten dollars. Our goal was to make it look 334 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: like a hundred dollars. It was a hundred dollars. Our 335 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: goals and make it look like five hundred dollars. And 336 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: so that's what that's what we did. We we we 337 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: kept our nose to the grind. We didn't we didn't 338 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: let up. And when it was time for the even 339 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: the end credit so to see, well, let's let's do 340 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: some name the movies. They don't want to people, uh 341 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: turn off, like okay, y'alla stated to the end of 342 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: the model. And I was like, oh, they do it 343 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: sucking else and they and so and so we were 344 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have great partners and Netflix, great partners, 345 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: and Nick Nesvid and Scott Stubert, the head of film 346 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: and the creating exec and and great partners in our 347 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: vigital effects team who surrounded us with the top of 348 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: the food chain. And we talked about forest, the Oscar winners, 349 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: we got Oscar Winners, Tony Winners, Feliship with jod and 350 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Nick and one Rose Emmy winners, peaking Michael Pete eight 351 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: time Grammy winners who wrote the music. He got winners 352 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: who also produced and wrote the music with us. So 353 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: we surrounded ourselves with people that at the top of 354 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the food chain so they could help elevate us. And 355 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: that's what and that's what they did. They helped, they 356 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: helped breathe life and elevate our vision so that it 357 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: was even uh, the how it turned out was even 358 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: better than we could have imagined ever imagined to be. Okay, now, 359 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: now this is this is this is come come on, 360 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: come on, come to the home. He is a fearless leader, 361 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: you know. You know, in this business, we all have 362 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a chip on our shoulder and our 363 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: biggest competition is ourselves. And he's brilliant. I mean they 364 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: we call him the actor's director. And so for them 365 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: to feel comfortable enough to allow him to play their 366 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: instrument be at Forest Whittaker and Felicia Rashad and Niken 367 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Ony Rose. If you if you let go and you 368 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: trust him, he is going to take you beyond what 369 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: you imagine for yourself. And that that's the thing, you know, 370 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: you have to have a playbook to work with to 371 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: add to. And you know, we are grateful for everyone 372 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: that added to that playbook and elevated it. But it 373 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: started off with the vision, you know, and the story, 374 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: so that I got a good woman, I got telling 375 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: you first, lady, Come on, first, lady, let the truth. 376 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: It's the truth. And so you know, you haven't seen 377 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: anything like it because you haven't seen him do it, 378 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's just a testament to you know, 379 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: all his hard work and everything that we've always wanted 380 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: to see ourselves. And there were no rules, you know, 381 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: We've we've never played by the rules when it comes 382 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: to creativity, and he knows I never do. And I'm like, 383 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: why who says you can't? You know, kind of like 384 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: what Journey says, nobody ever said I can't. You know 385 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: that That's how I feel. We operate in a lot 386 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: of ways. And um, I mean even we still watch 387 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: it today and I'm still affected. You know, I still 388 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: cry on the moments you cry, you know, when I 389 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: see forests and when I see the communication between the 390 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: father and daughter, you know, it reminds me of my 391 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, dad, And so it that's what it is. 392 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, we always say you can't touch someone else, 393 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: and let's first you've been touched, and we're touched by 394 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: this and we're just I mean, it's amazing that everybody 395 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: else is. Before we go to the two books that 396 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: are coming out and tied to the to the jingle 397 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: jango franchise. I'm put the word franchise. Okay, um, trendy, 398 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, I watched the movie and 399 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, then I go, I know how Netflix works. Okay, 400 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: So so when it started trending, Okay, how is the 401 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: the household? You know, baby, we can we how come 402 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: on that? Now you had to get on your you 403 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: had to start it's into the house when it's started trending. 404 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, David, come on, I go the 405 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big emotional big It was really 406 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: emotional for me, you know. And uh and and so 407 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: now you got me here. Uh but uh, you know, 408 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: to do what you love and to be able to 409 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: after thirty years in the business, to go to a hole, 410 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: to blow the level that people thought you were in 411 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: a box that they had put you in and assumed 412 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: that this was is all that you had in the tank. 413 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: And to know that you had more in the tank 414 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: for all these years and someone finally gave you an 415 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to show it and for you to put it 416 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: out in the world. And the calls that I've been 417 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: getting and the text that I've been getting from people 418 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: I haven't talked too. And I can't tell you how long, man, 419 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: it is, just it's a it is. It is still 420 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: overwhelming and very emotional for me. And I'm just thankful, man. 421 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: And I ain't never going back. I know, I tell 422 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: you one thing. I ain't never going to you some day. 423 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: That's why I knew, man, Like I said, you know, 424 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm a Netflix like they always allowed me to review 425 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: top movies of top talent. And you know The Old Guard, 426 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh, the Five Blood, Uh, you know a 427 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: Tiger King, you know, Uh Jamie Fox is a recent 428 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: movie to trend. All these action adventures, all these are 429 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: historical Lee soap opera type formats. Here was a black 430 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: Christmas musical. And so I told my wife, I said, look, 431 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: I said, uh, you know I'm putting those social media's 432 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: putting it in my news letter. You don't even know this, 433 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I gotta do what I gotta 434 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: do for my boy, okay. And then so when it trended, 435 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: when I saw it the number ten, my wife said, 436 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: that's baby's number ten. That's a good sign. That's that's 437 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: a good sign. I said, because they're gonna move up. 438 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: I said, I know how this thing works. They're gonna 439 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: move up. And so so I know how Sean McDonald 440 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: was feeling for you, because I know how much I 441 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: fight for us to get equal opportunities, and I know 442 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: how important that finally, you know all the work you 443 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: guys do for somebody to say, oh, it's only good 444 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: for the United States, nobody wants to see it no 445 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: place else. Nobody want to see it everybody else, and 446 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: to get the Netflix. And I've said that to other 447 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: actors who's coming to the show. About to be able 448 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: to premiere in a hundred countries allows you to really 449 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: understand your value, Lynnon David. That's all I'm saying, man, 450 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: is that you know, look at your value is now 451 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: being showcased worldwide. And that's the beauty of this moment 452 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: we're having right now, is that nobody's boxing you in. Nobody. 453 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: Netflix said you know something we're gonna do. You just 454 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: in the United States. No, we're gonna premiere you A 455 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: hundred eight when they premiered Tyler Perry and Fall Congrace 456 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: in January, and then it went when he when he 457 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: jumped out with twenty seven thous from twenty seven million 458 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: views and downloads and stuff like that, that shocked them. 459 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: And now to come back and see what you guys 460 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: doing with a Christmas classic, I'm just come up and 461 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: put the word on. 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With auto dot ai, you 493 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: can search the meeting notes, insert images, playback the audio, 494 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: and share them with your friends or coworkers. You can 495 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: capture action items, remember meeting details, and keep everyone informed. 496 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: Auto dot ai works for in person or virtual meetings 497 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: like Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Google meet. Sign up for 498 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: free at auto dit ai or download the app for 499 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: free auto dot ai. That's O T T E R 500 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: dot ai and peck. I remember with Steve and I, 501 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and I did his book Act like a 502 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: Lad to Think like a Man. We sold three million 503 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: copies and they came back saying it was translated into Russian. 504 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, they were translated in French, you know, translating Spanish, 505 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: not Spanish, not not in Mexican Spanish. You know Spain, 506 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Spain Spanish, which is a different, different, different tone. Basically 507 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: you can speak elaying, but we in Spain translation. You know, 508 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: so Peru and thirty different ain'guages. It was translated. So 509 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: I know what you said. I understand that people so 510 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: appreciated the value of work. You know something We're gonna 511 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: translate it because other people need to understand that this 512 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: is entertaining. This is heartwarming, and this is this is 513 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: a valuable for us to be bringing to our household. 514 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: That's the keep bringing your product into our household so 515 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: we can share. That's what I love about this project. 516 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: And I just don't want you to walk away from 517 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: this interview saying not understanding how you guys are changing lives. 518 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: How you guys see a movie theater. Nobody can go 519 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: in the movie theater. But when people turn on their 520 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: television in their house, man, that's that's a different grade 521 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: of opportunity because racism. Because they ain't going to that 522 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: black movie. It's over the movie theater. They can walk past. 523 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: But when they turn it on. And you started treating, 524 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna telling someday you're talking about you got emotional. 525 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Your bar over here was straight up in tears for 526 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: you because I knew the blessings and the talent I've 527 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: always seen in you. I've always know and you always 528 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: capable of doing and produce it with showing. And that's 529 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: just the start. Like you said, you're not going back. 530 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: Your damn right, you ain't going back because I ain't 531 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: gonna let you go back. Okay, not at all. Tannam 532 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: Tanna microphone. Now let's talk about these two books. You 533 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: got up a Jingle Jangle, The Invention of Geronicas and 534 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: The Square Root of Possible. Let's talk about that. Yeah, So, um, 535 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to do some companion books with the film, 536 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: and you know for my son as well. Um, the 537 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: Square the Possible, it's just pushing that same thing that 538 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: we had in the film. I want children to find 539 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: their square the Possible and have a fun story. And 540 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: I have an amazing illustrator that illustrated it, Tara Nicole Whittaker, 541 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: and it's released through Penguin Random House and so it's 542 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: a sweet Christmas story to tell and it's great to 543 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: go along with the kids. And Invention of dry This 544 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Jangle is that middle grade book for the older kids 545 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 1: that they could ready to delve in a little bit 546 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: deeper to the story. And we had a full circle 547 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: moment where um Felicia Rashad read the audio book for that. 548 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: So it'll be released, yes, when would be read? When 549 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: is the audio being released for that? Okay? Cool? This 550 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: is our close available for pre order now. They'll be 551 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: available tomorrow and anyone that purchases a book you'll get 552 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: the songs Square Root to Possible for free from the soundtrack. 553 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Just upload your receipt to Jingle Jingles Jangles song dot 554 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: com right there. Okay, every Wednesday, I have a dainty 555 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: thousand plus fan club. Please tell you people to send 556 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: me the link. Okay, nine am, and to go out. 557 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, like I said, I've already put you guys 558 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I'll put you guys in my fan club. 559 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: You didn't know it about know about that, but I 560 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: gotta do what I do. I put this on my 561 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: social media. I got almost a million social media followers, 562 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: so please get those links to us. Like I said, 563 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: this was just a This is just to say thank you, David. 564 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: I love you, brother Lynn. You especial. You truly are 565 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: first lady. You've shown your first lady status on this 566 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: interview day grade twenty two years. Absolutely, I thank you, brother. 567 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: You you know, and there's there's a lot of people 568 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: that say they want to see other folks when and 569 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, that do everything stop them from getting there. 570 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: You've always not only wanted to see me when the 571 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: challenge me to be the best version of that brom 572 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: and I thank you for that, man, And I want 573 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: to Thank you both for coming on money Making Conversation. 574 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. 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I work with the hope that even 608 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: if one person can find a benefit or feel like 609 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: what I've written and created has changed their life, if 610 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: it can impact even just one life, It makes me 611 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: feel like all the time and the effort in the 612 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: dedication was well worth it. The Cafe Marchas Swag Award 613 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: represents men who have strength, whose wisdom is assertive, and 614 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: who is genuine in their spirit. Welcome back to money 615 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. I'm your host Sean McDonald. Ah. Yes, welcome 616 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: to money making Conversation. I me your host with Sean McDonald. 617 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: This is important. It really is important that we understand 618 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: everybody travels a different path to success. That's because your 619 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: brand is different, the challenges you're facing your life are different. 620 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: So stop reading other people's success stories and start writing 621 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: your own. I recommend that it's not right to be 622 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: motivated by their success because their stories can offer direction. 623 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: But remember this is your planning and your committed effort 624 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: is going to enable you to achieve your success. My 625 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: next guest, longtime friend or Reva Martin. We've traveled the 626 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: streets of New York City together, a revers of award 627 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: winning civil rights attorney, legal commentator, talk show host, philanthropists, 628 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: best selling author, and CEO of Butterfly Health. I'll talk 629 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: show the Special Report with a Reva Martin. They try 630 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: our weekly digital talk show airing Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays 631 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: at nine am Pacific Standard time, which is noon East 632 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: Coast time on Facebook. The special Report covers race, culture, economy, 633 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: and politics and how they impact the daily lives of 634 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: everyday people, which includes me please working the money making conversations, 635 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: my friend Ariva Martin, Hello Rash, A long time to see. 636 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to see you, and to see you 637 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: right before the holidays is like super super special for me. Well, 638 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: they'll tell you, you know, this year has thrown me 639 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: for autenity. It's great seeing you. Um, you know. I 640 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: had to apply the planet place and all of a 641 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: sudden that March hit and my plan with sideways, and 642 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: I was scared. I was scared and the sister. I 643 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't know what what the next three months would look like. 644 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: I had employees, I had to maintain on payroll. I 645 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: didn't see any income coming in the entire country. Said hey, 646 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: we're not doing any live events for the second quarter. 647 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: Advertisers pulled all of their advertisements from any any scheduled 648 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: event that I was part of, and I was just 649 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: sitting there. I was like with the Home Depot, my 650 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: first out out was going to home depot, you know, 651 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: and I had my UH, I had my uh parrel, 652 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: but what little bottle I had left because you know 653 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: that all the shelves were clear. And then I have 654 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: a gloves and I had UH and I had a 655 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: ski mask that I pulled up because I didn't have 656 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: mask at the time. At the time, you know, you 657 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: didn't know what to how to get a mask. And 658 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: so when I came out to the the store, I didn't 659 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: know put the parrel o take my gloves off. With 660 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: the stuff I brought out the store contaminated, I didn't 661 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: know what to do with rev. I was just uh, 662 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: that was the world that I lived in, and I'm 663 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: sure a lot of people experienced that same uncertainty. How 664 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: was it in California? Still lockdown city over there in California? Right, Yeah, 665 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of interesting. In Rashote, I have 666 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: a lot of friends who are elected officials, So I 667 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: was getting this inside information about what was going to happen, 668 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: and I was telling friends, you know, get your business together, uh, 669 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, go to your office, is clean it out. 670 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: Because I knew probably about a week in advance in 671 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: March that the lockdown they called it sheltering place was 672 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: coming and I was getting a lot of resistance from people. 673 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: They're like, no, that's not gonna happen, do that. And 674 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: uh for us, you know, I run my lot from 675 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. We had gone paperless the year before, 676 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: so taking our office virtually and sending everyone home was 677 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: really easy for us. Are nonprofit also made an easy transition, 678 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: but so many people uh suffered back then and continue 679 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: to suffer because they weren't able to just transport their 680 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: whole businesses and start operating them from home. So it 681 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: was scary. Uh. You know, I found myself in the 682 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: position of of becoming that voice, that trusted voice, trying 683 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: to talk to people, you know, sharing with them the 684 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: inside information I had, and trying to walk them through 685 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: the process. But it's been it's been overwhelming, to be 686 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: honest with you. Like I said, for me, personally, my 687 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: my business hasn't suffered. Uh, none of the companies I 688 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: run have suffered. But I've watched so many people around 689 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: me lose their jobs, lose their businesses. Uh just they 690 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: had to lay out massive numbers of employees, loose contracts. 691 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: So it's it's been kind of a mixed bag. I 692 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: talked to some people they're doing great, like Gangbusters, and 693 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: then other people who are literally just holding on by 694 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: a thread. And I think that's kind of the reality 695 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: across this country. That's from a business, very challenging, very challenging. 696 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: Now from a personal statement, I gave me my little 697 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: COVID and eighteen trying to adapt to the new norm 698 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: back then. And I'm a lot more comfortable now. And 699 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: actually have flown on the airplane one time and massed 700 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: down and I said, in that chair and I scrubbed 701 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: it down, my little parral. I'm telling you you two, 702 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: I was a may I was doing made service on 703 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: my seat. Let's put it, the teammates made service. How 704 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: was it for you personally? You talked about the business, 705 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: How was it personally? Good thing? So I, personally, I 706 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: was going up. This is March. So I had started 707 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: this really intense workout plan. I had, you know, lots 708 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: of plans for the year in terms of my career. 709 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: One of my personal goals, you know, was to get 710 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: in the best shape of my life. And I was 711 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: there and then when this all hit, uh, I said, well, 712 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's just gonna be gonna be locked down 713 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, so I don't have to 714 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: worry about continuing this workout. I don't have to worry 715 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: about continuing this really healthy eating, I think, And I 716 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: didn't really even realize that I slid into kind of 717 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: a state of depression after it went on for more 718 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: than two or three or four weeks. I gained probably 719 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: that COVID fifteen pounds that a lot of people. I 720 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: found myself binging. I I'm not a big TV person. 721 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: I've watched Queen of the South bene through it on Netflix, 722 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: Ozark Higher Key one night, and this is when I 723 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: knew I was at an all time low. I was 724 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: up five in the morning beinging on Ozar. My dinner 725 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: that night had been a bag of potato chips and 726 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: several glasses of wine, and you know, something then hit 727 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: me that, Okay, this is not temporary. This is gonna 728 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: be here for a while. And you can't you know, 729 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: drink your way through it with wine. You can't eat 730 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: potato chips from dinner, you can't watch you know, every 731 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: you know series on Netflix. You've got to figure out 732 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: a way to get back to something that looks normal 733 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: for you. So I dropped the fifteen pounds. I stopped 734 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: eating the potato chips. I haven't had a drinking like 735 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: five months. Not because it's a I just I'm just 736 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: trying to just be super healthy. Got back to some projects. 737 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: Started you know, my uh weekly try weekly show on Facebook. 738 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm working on a new book project, did a bunch 739 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: of auditions for some new other you know, TV broadcast projects, 740 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: and just have been trying to say how do you 741 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: live with COVID and did not control you, but you 742 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: take control of your life. And I feel like I'm 743 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: kind of there there, but I'm feeling better, but I was. 744 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: I was. I think I was upset because I was 745 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: prepared for the two or three weeks which they told 746 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: us originally the lockdown was going to be, and then 747 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: as it went from March to April to May, by 748 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: then I was like, Okay, this is some b S. 749 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: I might really fatigued by it. And you know, I 750 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: was just kind of rolling through the motions. I had 751 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: a low point when I went to visit a friend 752 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: and some pajama pants that was pajamas. Yeah, what's so? 753 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: You know when you're walking out the house, getting in 754 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: the car, driving your pajamas. Maybe it's time like pack 755 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: yourself on the shelter and say, get it together, girlfriend, 756 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: get it together. All those fantastic poses and images we 757 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: see on your Instagram account. Now here's the thought process 758 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: when you talk about just uh, you know myself personally, 759 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: I gained ten pounds, okay, and I went from like 760 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: eating one and a half meals a day. I was 761 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: eating breakfast lunch and then breakfast lunch. And then my 762 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: wife was saying, you want to yes, I want breakfast, Yes, 763 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: I want lunch because we were locked down, and now 764 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: of a suddenly I've done so much do dila just 765 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: a losing like twenty five pounds Suddenly I was at 766 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and went whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 767 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: Something is not normal here. You don't need breakfast, but 768 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: you're eating it and you're not even going out to 769 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: be able to burn it off because I was just usually, 770 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: you know, get up before I'm out of the house, 771 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: is sick. So physically I was moving. I was just 772 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: getting up and just staying and eating and so so 773 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: that translated into weight games. So know that you are 774 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: you had a lot of individuals out there in America 775 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: joining you in that weight game club because we're sitting down, 776 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: Like you said, our lifestyles. You know me, I'm like 777 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: super active, I'm out, I'm always doing something. And like 778 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: I said, I worked out a lot. The gyms were closed, 779 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, so you needed that discipline to get up 780 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: and do it outside on your own. And I just 781 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: think psychologically was so new, like like what's going on 782 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: and you're watching this these deaths. You know, you're just 783 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: watching the numbers climb and watching the death You're talking 784 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: to friends who are you know, have the virus, and 785 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: it was just a lot emotionally, I think for all 786 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: of us as Americans. That's why the food was comforted 787 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: right there and Netflix was Jump. You said, Tiger King. 788 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: I had to relate to you. I was the Tiger 789 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: kid yet so from I would take some I saw 790 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: when it came out. I was like, to everybody know, 791 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: I didn't hear about that kick when it hit the stands. 792 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: I was right there and viewing it from Jump and 793 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: then it explode it because that was one of the 794 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: most amazing, uh Doctor Docu soap oppers I've ever realized 795 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: soap oppers I've ever seen in my life. But when 796 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: do you think all of us would have been watching 797 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: Tiger King but for the pandemic. Oh but you know 798 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: it's like I don't think so, but I think that 799 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: it still would have jumped out there strong, because that's 800 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: that was some mess. That was something that was some 801 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: high faluting mess that people are still look she wound 802 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: up on Dancing with the Stars. Okay, so that's how 803 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: another barfriend her husband that just got picked up on 804 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: d U. I charged the other guy who had like 805 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: the harem. You know, I think he got closed down. 806 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: This is always it just keeps rolling and rolling, the rolling, 807 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: the rolling. But but you we lived in life, or 808 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, our relationship is always tied to your authenticity 809 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: and your auticy authenticity is always tied to journalism, your 810 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: legal background and the special report and the reason I 811 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: really wanted to bring you on the show about that 812 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: because it's your voice that we need in this in 813 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: this media and that era from a standpoint of who 814 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: you are and what you bring to the table. How 815 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: did the special report start and give us some background 816 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: on how people are reacting to it. No, that's a 817 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: great question. So what happened was that, like I said, 818 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 1: I had that inside information that l A was about 819 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: to have a lockdown order, so on like the second 820 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: Friday in March, right before that order was going into effect. 821 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: That next weekend, I said, I want to go live 822 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: on Facebook and just talk to people that I knew. 823 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: You know, I had a bunch of hundred thousand plus 824 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: followers on Facebook and a big social media platform, and 825 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: everybody was, you know, nervous. We didn't know what was coming. 826 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: And because I had this inside information, I said, I'm 827 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: gonna go on and just let people know this kind 828 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: of calm their nerves, like this is okay, you know, 829 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: get ready, it's coming. It doesn't mean you can't go 830 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: to the grocery store, doesn't mean you can't go to 831 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: your doctor's offices. And just trying to you know, cushion 832 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: the blow, so to speak, for people. And the response 833 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: was so positive that one time, and after about an hour, 834 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't enough time. So I said, don't worry, 835 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll come back on Monday and we'll continue this conversation. 836 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: Because people were posting comments and we were going back 837 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: and forth, and so I went back that Monday, uh 838 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: and continued the conversation and people were saying Okay, are 839 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: you coming back? And it was really because people say, 840 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: can we tune in again? And I just said, you 841 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: know what, right now, for the next again, two weeks, 842 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: I'll show up every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and I'll 843 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: tell you what I know from my friends that work 844 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: at the county, my friends that worked for the City 845 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, you know, my friends that work in 846 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: federal government. And I thought it was gonna be two weeks. 847 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: Let me just telling people, you know, this inside information 848 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: that I had gotten from all of these you know, 849 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: high level elected officials, and that two weeks went to 850 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: three weeks, and that three weeks went to four weeks, 851 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: and here we are. We just celebrated one hundred shows. 852 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 1: So we're like on our hundred and six shows. Because 853 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: we went from the COVID crisis and that just kind 854 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: of dovetail right into what was happening in the upcoming election, 855 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 1: went from COVID it to George Lloyd because right there 856 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: there you go the summer. We went from from we 857 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 1: went for COVID to the summer the summer protests, the 858 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: global protests that were happening all over the world. And 859 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: so I was reporting on CNN and reporting on the 860 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: special Report, talking to you know, the activists on the street, 861 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: talking to uh, you know, law enforcement experts and legal experts, 862 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: and again just trying to help people understand what was happening. 863 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: And what I try to do with the special Report, Michelle, 864 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've worked with all of these national experts 865 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: you know on CNN and different other networks, is to 866 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: go through my contact list and say, hey, I know 867 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: you on CNN, MSNBC, but I need you to come 868 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: over here and talk to real people. And then I 869 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: pair those national experts up with real people. So you know, 870 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 1: it's about one of the questions, one of the issues 871 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: that people who don't have access to these folks, and 872 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, they're not able to pick up the phone 873 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: and call them. So it was really trying to bring 874 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: those two elements together because again, people, you know, they 875 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: turn on the news, they may get a three second 876 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: sound bite, right, you know, and they're not getting to 877 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: to post a comment and ask a question or to 878 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: engage with that expert. So the whole premise of the 879 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: show is giving real people that opportunity to have, you know, 880 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: access to the nation's top experts on these tough issues, 881 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: whether it's race, you know, like the George Floyd issue, 882 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: whether it's public health with COVID, whether it was the election, 883 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: and you know, the election from George Floyd, we went 884 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: right into that, and all these issues have just gotta 885 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: merge together, right, so we find ourselves and they've never 886 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: had a defining moment of what was going on because 887 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: it was all done under the President of Trump leadership. 888 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: You know, the COVID, the denial, the uh you know, 889 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: you can inject you know, uh poison into your blood system, 890 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: You'll be all right, you know, you can. Don't have 891 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. And when you got to the 892 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: George Floyd, when you got to lead that up into 893 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: the debate, when you told the proud proud boys to 894 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: stand back and stand down. Yeah, you know, ain't boy 895 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: stand out? They put that on T shirts and then 896 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: you but let's talk about race, because I really was 897 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: you know, I have seen your your show and that 898 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: the articulation and the race. I always talked to an 899 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: individual like that because you didn't know, you know, from 900 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: illegal this is your history of CNN, the racial makeup 901 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: of the protests. Did that surprised you because we know 902 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: it was a black issue, but it turned out to 903 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: be more than a black response. You know, it didn't 904 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: surprise me because we started to see some of that 905 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, coalition forming even after you know, trade by 906 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 1: Martin's murder in Florida, after Mike Brown's murder in St. Louis, 907 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: or Ferguson the Missouri So we had started to see 908 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: justice allies as we call them, starting to take a 909 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: more active role in the protests. I think with George 910 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: Floyd and the summer, you know that the May June 911 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: julyf period where the protests were at their biggest, you know, 912 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: we saw the largest numbers, the number of non African 913 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: Americans involved, not just locally in you know, Los Angeles, 914 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: just in Georgia or New York, but literally across the 915 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: globe probably hit an all time high. And there was 916 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: polling cake that was out during that period that said, 917 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter for the first time was accepted 918 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: by like over sevent of Americans that had never had 919 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: such high acceptance levels. And I think George Floyd, you know, 920 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: hit people in a different way. We've watched you know, 921 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: people get shot in the back by police. We've watched 922 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: such brutality, but there was something about that eight minute, 923 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: you know, forty six second video, the smug you know, 924 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: look on that cop space. The others standing around who 925 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, did absolutely nothing that I think that touched 926 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: people in a different way and that's what propelled those 927 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: huge numbers of people that we saw on the street. 928 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Marchia McDonald and 929 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: money making conversations. Don't touch that down. Cars today are 930 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: like a computer on wheels, but you can't fix any 931 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: of these new features yourself. So when something breaks, it 932 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: could cause you a fortune. And now it's not the 933 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: time for expensive repairs. 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Welcome back 950 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: to money making conversations, Um, your host Sean McDonald And 951 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: I think one of the things was they've always had 952 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: that he resisted, you know, he was fighting, and we 953 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: had to gain control of that individual. They saw somebody 954 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: who physically couldn't do anything, but what he did was 955 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: there was laid out and suffer and be murdered. And 956 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: I think that was one of the because, like I said, 957 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: we've seen the Eric Garner, we saw the Michael Brown's 958 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: running and Eric goner. He was trying to resist, so 959 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: they put him in a chokehold and he died. They 960 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: can say, who's trying to resist? This was just a 961 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: man who's taking out his vehicle, then pushed up against 962 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: his tire wheel and in his own car, and then 963 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: God just sit there with a knee on his neck 964 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: and adjusted his knee. That was the part that really 965 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: traumatized me, the adjustment, which means that you had the 966 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: point at that point that you could have relieved the pressure, 967 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: you decided to put more pressure on that. And so 968 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: so you're right in the midst of all lists of evil. 969 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: You know, you know, your your your your show that 970 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: you decided to do for two weeks. Now you are 971 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: a voice on Facebook. Sometimes it's not you know what 972 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: you're looking for, it's the moment you know, find you. 973 00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: And I think it was that kind of that moment 974 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: they found me. Uh. And you know who. 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Obviously, 1016 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: African American vote, you know, just incredibly important in this election. 1017 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: But white woman in the suburbs, you know, voted for 1018 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in just enough voting block to cause him 1019 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: to win in some key cridervols. Your states always hit 1020 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: very hard to governor notion by Donald Trump. You know, 1021 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: I just read a message. I believe that you know, 1022 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: dining indoor and outdoor dining is being banned. Okay, you 1023 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: live there, what is the atmosphere? And I'll go back 1024 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll remember when Kobe viron Bryant died 1025 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately died whatever. That was just February this year. 1026 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: And I remember I came into l A and you know, 1027 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: his name was on all the buses, and it was 1028 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: like a ghost town emotionally, you know. And then then 1029 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: this then this COVID hit and shut the city down, 1030 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: and then you know, uh, the amusement parks can't even reopen. 1031 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: And I was just there like two I came in 1032 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 1: and out real quick for a trip, and people are 1033 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: getting around, you know, outdoor dining, and I think I 1034 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: went to Javier's and uh Central City, Uh there, and um, 1035 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: you know they're they're kind of like outdoors anyway, so 1036 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: they were packed. And now I hit this note that 1037 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, you cannot eat indoor outdoor? How does in 1038 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: your mindset? Is that too much a rever Is it like? Okay, 1039 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Now? We got to be able 1040 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 1: to live? What what is too much? Too much? Here's 1041 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: what happened. I think that the poor a leadership from 1042 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: the national level shot has has just caused people to 1043 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: reach a level of fatigue, you know, at the beginning 1044 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 1: of this pandemic. Rather than Trump coming out being honest 1045 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: with the people, enacting uh, coming up with a national 1046 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: strategy and enacting that national strategy. He hid it from 1047 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: the people, He died about it. They kept moving the 1048 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: goal post. Uh. He failed to, you know, come up 1049 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: with a national strategy. He politicized something that simple was 1050 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: wearing a mask and socially distancing. And so now people 1051 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: are fatigued, they're fed up with it. You're right, we're 1052 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: about to go into another lockdown where you can only 1053 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: you can't dine outside. You'll only be able to do 1054 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: take out and pick up from restaurants. Restaurants are barely 1055 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: holding on. They're holding on by a thread. The money 1056 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: that was allocated, you know, from the Cares Act in 1057 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: the summer, all that money's gone basically, so restaurants are 1058 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, many of them won't survive this shutdown. They 1059 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: won't come back. The restaurant industry is being forever change. 1060 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: But here the deal. Because we botched it, we now 1061 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: all have to pay a price. And you and I 1062 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: are in a social contract. I can't do you know, 1063 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: I shouldn't do anything that harms you. You shouldn't do 1064 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: anything that harms me. As much as I hate this, 1065 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: as much as everyone hates it, this is what we 1066 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 1: have at this moment. We don't have the vaccine. We 1067 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: don't have an ability to slow the spread other than 1068 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: to take some kind of public health measures. And the 1069 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: public health experts are saying, closing the restaurants because that's 1070 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: where this public spread happens is what we have available 1071 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: to us. Uh. It stinks. People are upset about it. 1072 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: There were protests outside of the mayor's house. They have 1073 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: been protests in the streets. People feel like their rights 1074 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: are being infringed upon. But what I try to get 1075 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: people to understand is, look, the government already is in 1076 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: our lives. Where a seatbelt right, that's the government. Don't 1077 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: go past sixty five on the freeway, that's the government. 1078 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: You can't drink until you're twenty one in most states, 1079 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: that's the govern a minute, you can't vote until your eighteen, 1080 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: that's the government. So this notion that wearing a mask 1081 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: and socially distances puts the government in our lives in 1082 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: an intrusive way, that's just false. You know, government is 1083 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: already in our lives. And when you look at those 1084 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand people we've lost their lives. 1085 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: I say this is a small price to pay, although 1086 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: it's difficult, and I want to minimize the pain that 1087 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: people are feeling. The business owner someone who has you know, 1088 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: severe isolation and depression. But if we don't do something, 1089 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: or we will, will you know, are we willing to 1090 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: as a country to say five thousand people dead? Twenty 1091 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: million people in fact? It and until Biden and Harris 1092 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: get into office and get the scientists back in charge, 1093 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: we're all going to have to make tremendous sacrifices. And 1094 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: I just encourage people to look at it that way. 1095 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: The light is at the end of this tunnel. It's 1096 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: coming right now, is being blocked by Donald Trump. So 1097 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: if you can get him a slide left or right, 1098 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: we can see that light. Are you really interesting when 1099 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: you were saying that about you know, speed limits and 1100 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: because some people could say, you know, it's infringing them 1101 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: our rights because I never would drive past sixty five, 1102 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, I never drive past fifty five. I drive 1103 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: accordingly in school zonns. While you why are you why 1104 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: are you forcing me to live like this? And that's 1105 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: very true. What you're saying is that look, there's there's 1106 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: there's a right and a wrong in life, you know, 1107 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: and we all put rules in place to protect the masses, 1108 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: not always saying the individuals you can live right, Like, 1109 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't own a gun, so I'm 1110 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: not more likely I'm not gonna shoot anybody in my lifetime. 1111 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: But there are people who do own guns, and you 1112 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: have to have gun loss to stop just shoot anybody 1113 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: when they feel like it. But you know, when you 1114 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 1: when you think about all the things that you're doing 1115 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 1: a rever and this special report, and and and being 1116 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 1: able to launch and you're saying congratulations over there one 1117 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: hundred episodes if you've taped so far, what's just the 1118 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: future of this opportunity that you're doing on Facebook. Well, 1119 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, I hope that it continues to grow. We 1120 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: we've been growing, the audience we've been the guests have 1121 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: just been phenomenal. I've been blowing away myself by some 1122 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: of not just the experts, because, like I said, a 1123 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: lot of contacts with those, but some of the real people. 1124 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I've had the most amazing conversation with Oscar Grant's mother, 1125 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Wanda Grant. Uh. She you know, her struggle with her son, Oscar, 1126 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: who was killed by uh, you know, transit police. Uh 1127 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: in Northern California turned into that big movie, you know, 1128 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Fruitville Station with Michael B. Jordan's Sandrew Bland's sister, you know, 1129 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: who talked about what that tragedy was like for her 1130 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: family and going through such a public funeral and having 1131 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: to grieve your sister in such a public way. Uh. 1132 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: There's like a guy named Keith Grant who's been on 1133 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: my show a couple of times. He lost his father 1134 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: and his grandfather on the same day from COVID, and 1135 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: he learned, you know, in that short period of time 1136 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: his mother had COVID and several of his brothers and 1137 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: sisters including him. So, you know, families like that just 1138 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 1: ravaged by COVID. One of the state legislators in Chikan 1139 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: who was in the Michigan State House when those armed 1140 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: militia came and threatened you know, the state legislators. So 1141 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: just having a chance to sit down and talk to 1142 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 1: those people and learn about their experiences has just been 1143 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: an amazing way for me to manage my own mental 1144 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: health issues during this period. So I just want to 1145 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: keep bringing those stories, you know, I just want to 1146 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: keep connecting with real people like that and giving them 1147 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity to share their story. Some of the thank 1148 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: you notes I get from guests again and even my experts, 1149 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, because the experts go on national television and 1150 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: local television and they get two minutes to talk, you know, 1151 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: but they come on a specially when they do a 1152 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: fifteen minute interview where they really get to explain themselves, 1153 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: uh and answer questions and again talk to real people. 1154 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: And one of the big issues now that I'm so 1155 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: focused on laser focused on, is the vaccine. Seventy percent 1156 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: of the African Americans say they won't take the vaccine. 1157 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: And unless we have you know, well over fifty percent 1158 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: of the may Orkans who take it, it won't be effective. 1159 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: And there's been not nearly enough a conversation is happening 1160 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: in the black community with experts, with influencers like you, 1161 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: with celebrities about the vaccine. So we just did a 1162 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: show this week. We've done multiple shows on the vaccine, 1163 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: and that's an area where you know, I'm dedicated to, uh, 1164 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, helping people understand what the safety issues are, 1165 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: but hopefully helping people feel more comfortable once the data 1166 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: is out, once the research has been you know, vetted 1167 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: upwards and backwards, and left wards and right from people 1168 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: we trust, you know, people we trust getting people to 1169 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: understand how important it's going to be if we ever 1170 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: want to get back to anything that looks like normal. 1171 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: And I don't even know what the new normal will 1172 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: look like, but if we want to get you know, 1173 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: back to restaurants, back to movie theaters, you know that's 1174 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: movie theaters decimated, We're gonna have to, you know, increase 1175 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the number of people in this country who are willing 1176 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, and black people in particular. Let's talk 1177 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: about Butterfly Health. You know Next Cube maul and Evans. 1178 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I interviewed him on the show. So when I started 1179 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: pop up on your your just my Malan loves a 1180 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Stanfford University. Let's talk about it. He's a he's a 1181 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: CEO of Next Cube when they go out there and 1182 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: they fund tech and health oriented platforms, and that's what 1183 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Butterfly Health is a is a health oriented platform. Talk 1184 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: about how that relationship came together and exactly what is 1185 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Butterfly Health. So you know Roshaun from knowing me. I'm 1186 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 1: a serial entrepreneur, so you know I can't sit down 1187 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: without you know, starting something new. So people ask me, 1188 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: what did I do you know in the quarantine, I've 1189 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: written a new book, I started a digital talk show 1190 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: and I started we're talking about butterfly health with my brother. 1191 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: My brother UH is a tech entrepreneur. He's had two 1192 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: successful exits from tech companies. And I had this idea 1193 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: because you know, the work I do around autism and 1194 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,919 Speaker 1: special needs, I come into contact with so many caregivers 1195 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: and the issue of mental health. I really started thinking 1196 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: about this last year at the end of last year 1197 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: before COVID UH and just how impacted the families I 1198 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: dealt with were with mental health issues. And I called 1199 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: my brother and I said, hey, look, I got this idea. 1200 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I said, can I send you this nondisclosure agreement before 1201 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: I tell you? Know? You didn't he said, I won't 1202 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: tell you what. He said yes. After a few choice words, 1203 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I got him to agree that I could send him 1204 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: this sense and he would advise me on it talking 1205 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: about it, and he gave me a sense about you 1206 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: know why I needed someone like him because despite all 1207 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: of my himself to d A and so, he UH 1208 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: told me that, you know, for a percentage of my company, 1209 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: he would UH come in as a co founder and 1210 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: be the CEO. So that's what brought the brother's sister 1211 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 1: team together. But uh, you know, it's it's a digital 1212 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: therapeutic application available on iOS and Android, and it's targeted 1213 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: to the medicaid population. We grew up poor, you know 1214 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: my story North sawls on surviving on food stamps on 1215 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: medicaid ourselves. So we wanted to deliver and develop a 1216 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: product targeted specifically for that market place. And that's what 1217 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: Butterfly doesn't. And Next Queue, Uh, they invest in early 1218 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: start up healthcare companies and uh, one of our advisors 1219 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: referred us to Marlin and Next Cube and they, you know, 1220 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: we went through application process and so they now have 1221 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: invested in the company. We went through an accelerated program 1222 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: with them. We've gotten investments from start Up Health, We've 1223 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: gotten investments from investment fund in Tennessee called Jumpstart Foundery, 1224 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: and so we are building the company. We're in conversations 1225 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: with major health plans as well as health systems like 1226 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Kaiser about rowing the platform out at the beginning of 1227 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: next year. All of these companies are clamoring for a 1228 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: solution to address health equity issues, to address you know, 1229 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: underserved populations. So from a timing standpoint, You've got a 1230 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: tsunami and mental health issues happening because of COVID and 1231 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,959 Speaker 1: the social unrest, and you have health companies who said 1232 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 1: we are committed to diversity and inclusion in ways you 1233 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: know perhaps they hadn't been in the past. So you 1234 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 1: have those two things colliding creating some tremendous opportunities for 1235 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: us to one raise a lot of capital for Butterfly 1236 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and then to roll it out and to have an 1237 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: impact on the lives of people who desperately needed. So 1238 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: super excited about that. Well, it's been thirty minutes of 1239 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: a good conversation with a friend. Uh, we've know this. 1240 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I do a lot of national shows or Black News 1241 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Channel has me on like once am U talking about 1242 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: the COVID and the financial situation and how Black America 1243 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: has to deal with the crisis that's not being funded 1244 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: properly by our Democrats or Republicans. So if you ever 1245 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: want me on your show, I'd love to come on 1246 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: your show. I watched it. Uh, you're such a highly 1247 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: respect yourself. Will work out the details work. I will 1248 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: come over there strictly talking about the financial side and 1249 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the budgets and what's not happening and why they won't 1250 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: pass this bill, and they need to stop trying to 1251 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get these foncations on dollars a week. 1252 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you that right now, it's not 1253 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen. But if they can't, they should be giving 1254 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: them something because there's some big tax bills that are 1255 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: gonna be coming this way. Twelve thirty one menth January 1256 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 1: is gonna really cripple not only America, because especially in 1257 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 1: the black community, because we are always the hardest hit 1258 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: as we're being the hardest hit by COVID. But I 1259 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations. 1260 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,919 Speaker 1: You look fantastic. Thank you and your conversation with Brie. 1261 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Holidays to you and your family. Thank you. If you 1262 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: want to hear more money Making Conversation interviews, please go 1263 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation dot com. I'm ra Sean McDonald. 1264 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm your host. Thank you, stephen A. Welcome to Money 1265 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. I'm your host, ras Sean McDonald. I recognized 1266 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that we all have different definitions of success. For some 1267 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: it's a sizeable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake up 1268 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplished their goals and live their 1269 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: very best life. These are my passions and that's what 1270 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to do for you. That's why I created 1271 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 1: money making conversations. I want you to stop tripping over 1272 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: small challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles 1273 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: that life will present to you. Really, in the in 1274 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the year of pandemic, you have to understand that you 1275 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: need relationships. You need people to believe in you, and 1276 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 1: as you develop those relationships, they will go beyond. My 1277 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: next guest is as a survivor, is a trooper as 1278 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: as as they say has a sultry voice? Is what 1279 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 1: has a voice that I don't have? By the way, 1280 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 1: my next guest is Will Downing with a creer expanded 1281 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: thirty two years in the music business and twenty three 1282 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: albums to his credit. The Prince of Sophisticated Soul has 1283 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: a repertoire that consists of signature interpretations of R and 1284 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: B classics life I go crazy wishing on their star 1285 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and I try with original hits a million ways, Sorry, 1286 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 1: I and the show stopping duet with Rachel Farrell. Nothing 1287 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: has ever felt like this. Will is discussing his release 1288 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 1: of his this music project, So Many Good Die Young, 1289 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: a moving in powerful tribute song and video, as well 1290 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: as current events such as being an artist in the pandemic, 1291 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 1: coping with work stoppage, hosting this popular weekly radio show 1292 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: to wind down, Please Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I've 1293 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: seen him many times on stage in Houston, Texas at 1294 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the Arena Theater, my man, will Donny, How you doing 1295 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 1: pretty good? My friend? Pretty good? I mentioned that, I 1296 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,719 Speaker 1: mentioned I threw back some history on you the Houston, Texas. 1297 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 1: That's why I'm born and raised. Many times I've seen 1298 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 1: you in concert at the Arena Theater. Tell everybody what 1299 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: the arena theater is and some of the complications that 1300 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: it presents for a performer like you. Well, uh, first 1301 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: and foremost good to see you. I always loved playing 1302 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: in the Houston area, and in Houston, I mean I 1303 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: think I started my first show there was that like Rockefellers. Yeah, wow, forging, 1304 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: I know exactly, Oh yeah, I just looked this way. Yeah, 1305 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 1: my mind sort of works a little bit. I know exactly. 1306 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah. Yeah. But the Arena Theater, for 1307 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 1: those who don't know, it's a theater in the Round. 1308 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: It's one of the few that still exists in the 1309 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: in the country. Uh, there's one in New York, and 1310 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: I think maybe the Arena might be the only. There's 1311 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 1: another one and and Arizona. But what I was gonna 1312 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: say is a theater. It's a it's a stage that rotates, 1313 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 1: so it rotates very slowly, so when you're performing, it's like, oh, 1314 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: there's that lady. Is that lady again? Is that So 1315 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: it's a rotating stage about three people. Yeah, yeah, and 1316 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: you have to entertain because basically you have to kind 1317 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 1: of cater to everyone. It's not like you're looking at them, 1318 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, head on. It's like you gotta turn around 1319 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 1: and just look this way, to look this way and 1320 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 1: try to feel make everyone engage. So it's it's a 1321 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept, but if you're a good entertainer, Uh, 1322 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a perfect you know setting, absolutely well. You 1323 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: know when we're talking about your career and that being 1324 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: a singer and that you in the time, I don't 1325 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 1: know what you consider the times we're living in right 1326 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: now with the pandemic and with the social unrest that's 1327 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: going about. Because I want to get to your song 1328 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 1: so many Good Die Young and includes some social unrest 1329 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: conversation in that in that tremendous song, where is it 1330 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 1: as an artist? Emotionally? Where are you at right now? 1331 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Will Downy? Well, you know what I think that as artists, 1332 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,759 Speaker 1: and I can speak for some of my other artists 1333 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 1: friends because we talk often. It's a roller coaster, Ryan, 1334 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, we were riding high for 1335 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, you know, work was plentiful, 1336 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden in March, this thing 1337 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,720 Speaker 1: just sort of hit and most of us were kind 1338 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: of thinking like, oh, you know, we'll be out of 1339 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 1: work for maybe a month or so, you know, and 1340 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: then we'll get back. And here we are and you know, 1341 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 1: November and even the horizon, you know that that light 1342 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel, it's very dim, So 1343 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're looking at you know, probably you know, 1344 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the mid part of only one before we get back 1345 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: to work. So in the meantime, you know, we have 1346 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: to make do with what we have and find a 1347 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 1: new way. Right when has been challenging for something interesting 1348 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 1: for us. So when you say, because look, a lot 1349 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: of people look at a singer doesn't realize a singer 1350 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 1: or performer, like you're you're an entrepreneur, you're a business person, 1351 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: and so when you're looking at the business, you have 1352 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 1: to put together a budget, and other people depend on 1353 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 1: your your touring, your revenue that you bring to the table. 1354 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 1: Like I said, we all expected it to be as 1355 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 1: well as I. You know, I'm an entrepreneur own the 1356 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,680 Speaker 1: business in the line of George, I've I have employees 1357 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: that look to me to deliver a paycheck at least 1358 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: twice a month when they expected to pay their own 1359 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 1: personal bills. And so when they when they told us 1360 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: to shut down for two months, I thought, like, you up. 1361 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: And maybe we've been back up and running. But then 1362 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 1: when all the advertising industry said, hey, we're gonna go 1363 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: away for the second quarter, and then the third quarter, 1364 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 1: and then we look now when we see the pandemic 1365 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: is spiking again. You know, we're over a hundred and 1366 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 1: fifty cases per day. So that's what you're saying, is 1367 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: that when it looks like it may be a potential 1368 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: to get turned around and live venues start opening back 1369 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 1: up and featuring consistent. There are some venues out there 1370 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: to open, but it's inconsistent because of the fact that 1371 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: all people willing are comfortable to go back into arenas, 1372 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 1: because right now the movie industry is dying because people 1373 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,600 Speaker 1: are not comfortable with going into movie theaters. So what 1374 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: do you think is the big push that's gonna make 1375 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 1: a difference. Is that the vaccine? All you think a 1376 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 1: conference zone with people accepted the responsibility of wearing masks. Well, 1377 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:40,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of both. And unfortunately, uh, 1378 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, people of color have been used as guinea 1379 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 1: pigs for you know, these vaccines in the past, and 1380 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 1: it hasn't really worked out well for us. So I 1381 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 1: am assuming that a lot of folks are sort of like, 1382 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm gonna wait, you know, and 1383 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 1: and see what happens soon, you know, other folks, and 1384 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: and see how this you know, see how this vaccine works. 1385 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 1: So um and the plus you know, for my demographic, 1386 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, my demographic is slightly older. Um that you 1387 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 1: get out of there, we know we will. But you're 1388 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: telling the truth, you know, because I'm gonna tell you 1389 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: when when the when the pandemic hit in Atlanta, Georgia, 1390 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: eight out of the ten cases that were in the 1391 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 1: hospital or African Americans and so that is why when 1392 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 1: I look at it, the whole situation right now, you know, 1393 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 1: that's where Donald Trump was out there campaigning. They didn't 1394 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,719 Speaker 1: want to say it, but they know who has been affecting. 1395 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: This is affecting people of color, people over sixty five. 1396 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: And that wasn't his base, and so so he was 1397 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: just out there flaunting it again his base can get 1398 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, but not like at the risk of like 1399 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: we can get it. And I said, we mean people 1400 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 1: of color, African Americans, especially when you say eight out 1401 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,560 Speaker 1: of ten cases. So they all know from a standpoint 1402 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 1: that you know, that's why that that the minority community 1403 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 1: when I clude the minority, includers, Latinos. But this is 1404 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 1: our audience and so you know our audience dollars already 1405 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 1: stretched anyway will and so when you have us having 1406 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 1: to deal with you know, uh no stimulus package, uh 1407 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: venues that are not available for us to perform in. 1408 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,719 Speaker 1: When I say us, you know, I I book venues. 1409 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 1: I booked talent. I've been up talent myself as a 1410 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: stand up comic, so I know what it takes and 1411 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: what it what it means when you go out there 1412 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: with these venues opportunities, venue opportunities. You make a difference 1413 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: when you used to come in to Houston because that 1414 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,639 Speaker 1: venue was open and then people work through ticket booth. 1415 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: People did the ticket, you know, did soul drinks. And 1416 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: so you are like a machine and you are a 1417 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 1: revenue generator not only for the for yourself personally for 1418 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 1: the city of Houston. You know, you flew into town. 1419 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, you had cast service your hotel. So you know, 1420 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if you look at yourself at that perspective. 1421 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 1: So as you go from town to town, you're just moving. 1422 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: You just bringing your little revenue generating behind from each 1423 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 1: city and you're making a difference in the community. And 1424 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:05,639 Speaker 1: that's not happening anymore. And that's a really big deal. Yeah, 1425 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: there's certainly a domino theory that you know, they're just 1426 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,640 Speaker 1: speaking you know, um as you said, you know, I 1427 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: have eight employees that I you know, eight folks that 1428 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 1: travel with me. So band members who relying on me 1429 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 1: in some cases not exclusively to to feed their family, 1430 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,160 Speaker 1: because musicians kind of jumped from you know, artists to artists. Uh, 1431 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: and they make it work in their calendars somehow so 1432 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 1: that no one gets screwed. You know, so if I'm performing, 1433 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,759 Speaker 1: you know, more than likely there's someone that they're working 1434 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,640 Speaker 1: with is not hitting at the same time or the 1435 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 1: same uh same same weekend, so we can get the 1436 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: same folks. So needless to say, eight or nine people 1437 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 1: I employed, uh and they you know, when this thing hit, 1438 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 1: they were looking at me like, you know, you want 1439 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: to take this chance. And as you just said, you know, 1440 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 1: this disproportionately hits our community. And as I was saying earlier, 1441 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: the age demo for if even if they did open 1442 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,880 Speaker 1: up the venues, Now, if a lot of the people 1443 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 1: that come to my concerts check off all those boxes, 1444 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, hot blood pressure of a certain age, uh, 1445 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: you know, had pre existing uh conditions. So if someone 1446 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: were coming through the arena theater to come see me, 1447 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 1: and if someone sneeze, people would be running up them 1448 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 1: out to get the freak out. And not to mention 1449 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,639 Speaker 1: the potential loss it will, you might be running off 1450 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 1: the stage. I might be running good gentlemen, please good night. Yeah. 1451 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's just a risk that uh right now, 1452 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 1: uh is I don't think that's a smart thing to do. UM. 1453 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 1: I think everyone just has to be patient, you know, 1454 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,679 Speaker 1: what I mean. I know we've been patient for some time, 1455 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,080 Speaker 1: and yes we are. 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Uh so many good die young. You know 1484 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 1: I think that, um, we were really really stunned by 1485 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the death of Kobe and his daughter g g El 1486 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: this year. I think the world was stunned. Uh uh 1487 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,240 Speaker 1: you know from a daughter. So I was affected emotionally 1488 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 1: because I know how much my daughter means to me. 1489 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 1: And he died with his daughter and she was kind 1490 01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 1: of like his uh his his his female version of him, 1491 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 1: you know. She Adoption of teams from foster care is 1492 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 1: a topic not enough people know about, and we're here 1493 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: to change that. 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Welcome Out and played basketball. 1516 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: So she loved her daddy, you know what I'm saying, 1517 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 1: not saying the other daughters didn't love him either, but 1518 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 1: but so many people and I saw it, and I 1519 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 1: saw the video and I looked at it again and 1520 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: includes a lot of individuals that, you know. When I 1521 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,639 Speaker 1: realized that a Leah she died when she was twenty two, 1522 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: I forgot about that she was that young, and Tupac 1523 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 1: was twenty five, I was wow, you know, and you 1524 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 1: know you have Whitney Houston. But before I jumped too 1525 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 1: early into us, just talk about walk us through the 1526 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: steps of that song coming about so Many Good Die Young. 1527 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 1: It was released November eleven, and one of the main 1528 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: reasons we are interviewing you today is to let people 1529 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,040 Speaker 1: know about that song and get the word out and 1530 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: then the people start downloading and start living with it 1531 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, well, thank you very much. Um. Once again. 1532 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 1: The song is entitled so Many Good Die Young, and 1533 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 1: the inspiration for it was I'm working with one of 1534 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 1: my band members. We've been doing the last about four 1535 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 1: or five records together, and we were doing this record 1536 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 1: and I just said, you know, we need something with 1537 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 1: a little bit more substance that we're missing a song. 1538 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, I've pretty much been recording an album since 1539 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: we've been off, and you know, and listening to what 1540 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: we've had, I said, and we you know, we got 1541 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 1: all the dance stuff, we got all the you know, 1542 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,760 Speaker 1: we got all the love songs. I said, we need 1543 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,479 Speaker 1: a song of some substance. He said, I'm working on 1544 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: something right now. That's um, it's it's sad, he said, 1545 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 1: but it's a beautiful song. Is that you want to 1546 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 1: hear it? I just started on it and he started 1547 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 1: playing me so many good die young, and together we 1548 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 1: kind of penned, uh this song. The inspiration for it 1549 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 1: was the passing of Chadwick Boseman. You know. It was 1550 01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,799 Speaker 1: a shot to world as world and no one knew 1551 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 1: that he was sick, uh, and it kind of hit 1552 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 1: us all hard. And then it got both of us thinking, like, 1553 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,679 Speaker 1: how many other people have died at this early age? 1554 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 1: And as you said, you know, people like Kaliyah, Um, 1555 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:21,599 Speaker 1: Prince Michael Jackson was fifty tupart Hell, Martin Luther King 1556 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and Malcolm were only thirty nine. The world Oh no, yeah, yeah, 1557 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: at thirty nine. Both of them gentlemen changed the world, 1558 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, uh, and it makes you look at yourself 1559 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: and what you're doing with your life and how you're 1560 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 1: living your every day and all those old sayings that 1561 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,799 Speaker 1: you used to hear your your aunts and your uncles 1562 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: and your grandparents and your parents say, like, you know, 1563 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow is not promised. Live every day like it's your last. 1564 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,679 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's sort of like thing, all 1565 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: that stuff starts to make sense to you, and you 1566 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: might start taking life a little bit more seriously and 1567 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: enjoying life and also adding something to society and giving 1568 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: something back, you know what I mean, leaving your mark. 1569 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,720 Speaker 1: You know. With the advent of the Internet, which in 1570 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, is one of the greatest inventions ever made, 1571 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,639 Speaker 1: the great one of the greatest, but it is also 1572 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 1: one of the worst. There's so much information out there 1573 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:27,440 Speaker 1: that yet when when something happens in the world today, 1574 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 1: if someone passes away, it's almost like like we've become desensitized. 1575 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're here and then you're not. 1576 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, so you're a blurb on a on a feed, 1577 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you're on one of the social media platforms, 1578 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,280 Speaker 1: you see it so and so passed away today, and 1579 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this is terrible, and then 1580 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 1: it rolls up a little bit and then it's like 1581 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,599 Speaker 1: literally just forgotten we were talking about. And when I'm 1582 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 1: feeling the video, when I was watching it and listening 1583 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 1: to the song, you know, there's a lot of things 1584 01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 1: going on in there, you know, like I said, you know, 1585 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 1: because you know we have Kobe in there, where Chadwick 1586 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: you know his his untimely death. You know, we have 1587 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 1: Marvin Gaye, you have you know, uh civil rights leaders 1588 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,479 Speaker 1: H Mart, Luther King and uh Malcolm X. And then 1589 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 1: you had a Tupacket in there, and then you got current, 1590 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 1: even more current. George Floyd's in there, Brianna Taylor's in there, 1591 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: so and and and and putting it in the inspiring 1592 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 1: layers together, because that's a lot of different things going 1593 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: on there. You know, when you have something with Michael 1594 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: Jackson and printing there, you know you could have went 1595 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 1: all all Luther and Ross is in there. And so 1596 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 1: I've seen this video several times a well, so I 1597 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 1: could I could just start rattling off, you know, my boy, 1598 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 1: I saw Gerald Leaverte I almost and Sean I took 1599 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,000 Speaker 1: a seatback because Gerald's death was a shocker to Gerald 1600 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 1: LeVert that uh and so when I when I look, 1601 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 1: when it could have been all music? Okay, because you 1602 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 1: have wit mean and Leah, what made you start crossing 1603 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:59,759 Speaker 1: genres as far as you know, because Chadwick and Kobe 1604 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 1: Obi sports, Chadwick is acting and then the the death 1605 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 1: of the several arts they led to major several arrest 1606 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,240 Speaker 1: in the city of Louisville. Is Brianna Taylor and George Florida, Minnesota. 1607 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 1: When did you start saying, you know something, I gonna 1608 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 1: include everybody. I have to make sure this message goes 1609 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: across board and I'm not gonna make it just a 1610 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 1: celebrity driven piece. Well I decided to do that because 1611 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,679 Speaker 1: all of these people really meant something to the world 1612 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,680 Speaker 1: and change the world. I mean, no one, you know, 1613 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 1: the average person didn't know who George Floyd was. And 1614 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the world is looking at 1615 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,559 Speaker 1: the TV and they're saying this officer with his knee 1616 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: on his neck, and all of a sudden, people around 1617 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: the world got it, like, Okay, you know, maybe maybe 1618 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: we are leaning a little bit too hard on people 1619 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,879 Speaker 1: of color. You know, it made the world pair attention. 1620 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: They had demonstrations around the world. So it changed, it 1621 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 1: changed all of thinking. The numbers eight, four or six 1622 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 1: in the time eight minutes and forty six seconds, all 1623 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,679 Speaker 1: of a sudden means something to everyone around the world. 1624 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,759 Speaker 1: It will almost be as iconic as nine A LEFTL 1625 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 1: you know. So when you think of something like that, 1626 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 1: that's big and you need to speak on that and 1627 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 1: let people know. And you know, and and it's funny 1628 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 1: in the video and it's not funny, but in the video, 1629 01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 1: I put um the officer, you know, I put his 1630 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 1: picture in the video, and some and some people commented say, everybody, 1631 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,200 Speaker 1: you put the space. It's like, I never want you 1632 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,720 Speaker 1: to forget how this young man passed away. It was 1633 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,720 Speaker 1: not of natural cause, you know, I always want you 1634 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 1: to as young folks say, stay whoke. I want you 1635 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: to stay awake, stay woke, you know, keep your eyes open. 1636 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 1: This man took this young man's life at this early age. 1637 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: But in a in a warp sort of a way, 1638 01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 1: he's become a martyr, you know, because now people are awake. 1639 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 1: Every time they see that, they're kind of like, you know, 1640 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,679 Speaker 1: maybe they'll they'll treat people that don't look like them 1641 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: a little differently, you know, and they'll wake up and 1642 01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 1: kind of maybe I should give this person an our 1643 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,320 Speaker 1: to me. Maybe I shouldn't be so nasty. Maybe I 1644 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't you know what I mean, Let's treat each other 1645 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more fairly. So you know that that's 1646 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,720 Speaker 1: why I left that in then, So everyone that's on 1647 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,640 Speaker 1: that video has changed the world in some sort of 1648 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,759 Speaker 1: a way, right from a musical standpoint, from an acting 1649 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 1: stand from from I think Kobe from a from a 1650 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 1: parentee standpoint, as well as a sports figure, you know, 1651 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career that he had with the l 1652 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 1: A Lakers. But like I said, you know that's why 1653 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 1: I was really you know, uh, Torres b I G 1654 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 1: and the you you really got a lot of people 1655 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 1: in this in this in this video, and it really 1656 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 1: uh took me down memory lane. And also like you know, 1657 01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 1: when you go from Luther, you go to Tupac, you 1658 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,760 Speaker 1: go to to b I G. And then when you 1659 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,040 Speaker 1: look at some of you, there's tragic because you know 1660 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Tupac was killed, you know, by drive by situation, the 1661 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:50,800 Speaker 1: same thing with Torris b I G. So a lot 1662 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 1: of these individuals were victimize and Marvin Gaye was killed 1663 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 1: by his brother. So a lot of the individually victimized 1664 01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 1: by circumstances that that that they didn't see coming. Uh, 1665 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,360 Speaker 1: didn't even have control of. It wasn't natural causes, you know. 1666 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,719 Speaker 1: You know, we know that Lia was through a plane 1667 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,559 Speaker 1: crash and so that's that they didn't get a chance 1668 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,479 Speaker 1: to live their lives to the to the fullest because 1669 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,280 Speaker 1: they all died young. And that's the name of the song. 1670 01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: So many good die young that right now you can 1671 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: see it on YouTube. Uh. It was released November eleven. 1672 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm putting in my news letter this week. We'll I 1673 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,720 Speaker 1: go out there, Nanny thousand subscribe if you don't mind, 1674 01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I like, you know, put put a few more views 1675 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 1: on it. From from the Money Making Conversation side, hold on, 1676 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 1: hold on, from your lips to God's is I mean 1677 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 1: another interesting thing about the song and I'm not gonna 1678 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 1: take up too much of your time. Oh no, no. 1679 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, will you know your 1680 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,559 Speaker 1: family help money Making Conversation that it's my family because 1681 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about more about your greatest accomplishments, 1682 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,439 Speaker 1: and because you know the thing about it and you're 1683 01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: creating relationships and you know the value relationships. And I 1684 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: created this platform because of the fact that I wanted 1685 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,320 Speaker 1: individuals to come on here and talk about their music, 1686 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,599 Speaker 1: but also talk about their career, to talk about their brands. 1687 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:12,360 Speaker 1: Because you are iconic in this industry. You that's iconic. 1688 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 1: There's longevity tied to your success. So I'm just let 1689 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 1: you know. People always say that, you know, everybody wants 1690 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,320 Speaker 1: to be a singer. It's hard man to come into 1691 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,599 Speaker 1: the city and convince somebody to take food off their 1692 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,680 Speaker 1: table and go buy a ticket to come see you. 1693 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:36,280 Speaker 1: That's a gift. That's it's true. Man. My uh, my father, uh, 1694 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 1: he passed away five years ago. When I told him, 1695 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, many many many many years ago, that this 1696 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,200 Speaker 1: is what I wanted to do for a living. One 1697 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: of the first things that came out of his face 1698 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,920 Speaker 1: for us. You know, well, you know, everybody can sing, 1699 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 1: everybody can dance, everybody can play sports. What makes you special? 1700 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,160 Speaker 1: What makes you think people munt spend their hard earned 1701 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 1: money to come and see you? And you know so, 1702 01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I laugh about it now, but back then 1703 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,880 Speaker 1: it was very serious. And I remember as I was 1704 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,720 Speaker 1: coming up, I started out in the clubs um like 1705 01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: around New York, and he would come and he'd come 1706 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 1: to like, you know, two or three hundred seed there, 1707 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,720 Speaker 1: and you know, he kind of got it. Then it 1708 01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know, yeah, this is cool. And then 1709 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: one time I played Carnegie Hall and he came to 1710 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall and he's like, well, you know what, who 1711 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 1: else is on the show? I'm like, I said, no, no, Dad, 1712 01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 1: it's just me? Is it? Were you telling me all 1713 01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,679 Speaker 1: these people I come to see you. I said, yeah, 1714 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,639 Speaker 1: so you just need me and your mama to come 1715 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:35,360 Speaker 1: to fill some seats. I'm like, no, no, no, no, 1716 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 1: I said, Dad. I said, I think it's sold up 1717 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 1: to come see you say yeah, So I can see 1718 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 1: him from the stage. So I come walking out on 1719 01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 1: stage and my father does this. It's the funniest thing ever. 1720 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 1: I see him and I started singing and people are 1721 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: applauding and he's doing this. He's looking back in the audience. Yeah, 1722 01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:06,360 Speaker 1: like y'all pay your mother to see him? So like, Dad, 1723 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you. But it was it was the 1724 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,320 Speaker 1: moment that he kind of got it. You know, you know, 1725 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 1: I can spending that money and people were singing along 1726 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,360 Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, well, you know, yeah, I guess 1727 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:19,759 Speaker 1: you know, I guess you are kind of doing absolutely 1728 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,920 Speaker 1: because the same way My father was the same way 1729 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,599 Speaker 1: because I did stand up comedy. So he didn't EA, 1730 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,080 Speaker 1: didn't even remotely understand how that was gonna be a 1731 01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 1: possible success turn for me. And it wasn't. And I 1732 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 1: bought a club and uh, Houston, Texas in two and 1733 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 1: so um. He came in and he looked around. He said, 1734 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 1: this you and he walked into the room. We see 1735 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,599 Speaker 1: about three d and fifty people. It was sold out. 1736 01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: People as a line outside the door where people couldn't 1737 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,000 Speaker 1: get in to see me. He said, they come here 1738 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,760 Speaker 1: to see you. So I know exactly when you take 1739 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,920 Speaker 1: a person who is blue collar, true and true. Okay, 1740 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,760 Speaker 1: entertainment is you know back there that was saying with 1741 01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,600 Speaker 1: David Jr. You know what I'm saying. That was that 1742 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 1: was Pearl Bailey, you know, to him, you know that 1743 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 1: was that was the stall and that you know that 1744 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,600 Speaker 1: King Cole dude, his boy, his boy to be a 1745 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,000 Speaker 1: Cornegan Hall. This wife country here now his wife folks call, 1746 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 1: I know exactly where was that now? And that's if 1747 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,439 Speaker 1: anybody knows Carnegie Hall is in Manhattan, it's one of 1748 01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 1: the you know, the classic venues. Man if it's one 1749 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,719 Speaker 1: of the venues. When you start making it in this business, 1750 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you play Carnegie Hall, you know, 1751 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,240 Speaker 1: then you play like if you get really big, play 1752 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, play their Master Square Guard, play any place 1753 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 1: like the Fox, any of the Fox theaters, you know, 1754 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,120 Speaker 1: and you sell those bad boys. Your career is on 1755 01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:45,639 Speaker 1: fine wine Lane right there. Yeah, yeah, you're saying something. 1756 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,160 Speaker 1: So it was it was an Hall moment and it's 1757 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,160 Speaker 1: and it's also good to know that people do you know, 1758 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 1: spend their hard earned money to come see you, you know, 1759 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's tough out there, you know, and and 1760 01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,599 Speaker 1: you know, people have responsibilities, they have children, they have bills, 1761 01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,639 Speaker 1: and for someone to kind of say, I'm gonna take 1762 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,040 Speaker 1: my money and go see this person, like you know, 1763 01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,040 Speaker 1: that means a lot. Well, my whole thing that, like 1764 01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,000 Speaker 1: I said, what you're taking the time to come on 1765 01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,000 Speaker 1: money making conversation, Will is that you know, your your 1766 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,720 Speaker 1: brand is like I said, uh, you know, are you 1767 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 1: so humble? But believe me when I hear I try. 1768 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, you know you're sitting on that stool. I 1769 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,679 Speaker 1: can see that video right now, you know, you're sitting 1770 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:28,600 Speaker 1: on that stool with that black and white. But it 1771 01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,960 Speaker 1: was this part. Do you remember too, you remember too 1772 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:39,280 Speaker 1: much that Well, I can't sing, but I can be 1773 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,080 Speaker 1: you though. You know what I'm saying. I can imagine 1774 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,519 Speaker 1: myself being you because of the fact that your gifts, 1775 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,639 Speaker 1: your talent, man, you're you. You've given us a sound 1776 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,360 Speaker 1: that relaxes me. You know what I'm saying that that 1777 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,599 Speaker 1: makes me feel good about the tomorrow. And that's all 1778 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,840 Speaker 1: that we ask. And your song and you know so 1779 01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,040 Speaker 1: many good die young, it's really about us, song about tomorrow. 1780 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:05,000 Speaker 1: Like you said, you know, never never look to today 1781 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 1: and say I can do it tomorrow, do it today 1782 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,640 Speaker 1: if you can do it today today, And that's what 1783 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,040 Speaker 1: you're saying with that song, and and and and and 1784 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,000 Speaker 1: putting it together again came I November Loving I'm putting 1785 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,880 Speaker 1: into my newsletter, will you know, because you're part of 1786 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: my repertoire. Like I said, I'm happy, I see this 1787 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,439 Speaker 1: gets to me to be a fan because I've been 1788 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 1: a fan of all these years. Will I've been seeing 1789 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,759 Speaker 1: you at the arena, theaters and all that good stuff, 1790 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,519 Speaker 1: you know, coming in that round you. So that was 1791 01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,720 Speaker 1: one of those guys like your daddy. That's my man 1792 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,760 Speaker 1: right there, but he don't know yet, but now we 1793 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 1: do know each other and my brother. Just keep the 1794 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,760 Speaker 1: legacy building. Man. I hope you realize that you have 1795 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,360 Speaker 1: a home here with money making Conversations, and I will 1796 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 1: promote you, man. And like I said, when this pandemic 1797 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 1: pulls up, I know you'll be traveling. When you come 1798 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,280 Speaker 1: down through Atlanta, Georgia, That's where I'm based. I'm gonna 1799 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 1: invite you down into the studio and we go one 1800 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,599 Speaker 1: on one and we just keep building this relationship and 1801 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,639 Speaker 1: just keep keep sending the message of the world downing 1802 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:03,800 Speaker 1: sound the Prince a sophisticated soul. Thank you, Thank you 1803 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,040 Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate you. Man. Okay, man, be safe now. 1804 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,960 Speaker 1: We talked to will you gotta thank you. If you 1805 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: want to hear more money making conversations, please go to 1806 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,519 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation got dot com with Sean McDonald. I'm 1807 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 1: your host. 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This businessman, activists, celebrities, 1832 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,920 Speaker 1: and everyday Dad's The Cafe Maka Swag Award winning this 1833 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 1: week is The Black Man Project. The Black Man Project 1834 01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,759 Speaker 1: founders are a filmmaker Brian Ellison, a sculptor Anthony Super 1835 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 1: an anthropologist Whalin Hall. They traveler Nation, archiving the storage 1836 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,880 Speaker 1: black Men tell of masks and life's meeting. They're rooting 1837 01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,120 Speaker 1: in creating safe spaces for healthy conversations while explore are 1838 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,120 Speaker 1: the many nuances that affect men of color, The need 1839 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,040 Speaker 1: of of these conversations and this project, it is something 1840 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,400 Speaker 1: that has gun for so long unnoticed. You know, a 1841 01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: lot of us are, you know, suffering day to day 1842 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of times, you know, we're moving without 1843 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,720 Speaker 1: actually going anywhere, and so we're spending our wills in 1844 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,400 Speaker 1: essence when we need to tap into that that inner 1845 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 1: self and be able to reflect and be emotionally healthy, 1846 01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 1: really happy. Michael Squag Award represents men who have strength, 1847 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,639 Speaker 1: whose wisdom is assertive, and who is genuine in their 1848 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,760 Speaker 1: spirit welcome back to money Making Conversations. I'm your host, 1849 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:36,440 Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald. Oh yeah, welcome to money Making Conversations. 1850 01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Like he said, I am your host, Ra Sean McDonald. 1851 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have different definitions of success. 1852 01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 1: For some exercisable paycheck mind is helping people wake up 1853 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live their 1854 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,720 Speaker 1: very best life. These are my passions. That's what I'm 1855 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 1: gonna do for you. That's why I created money Making Conversations. 1856 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,519 Speaker 1: I want you to stop tripping over small challenges that 1857 01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,880 Speaker 1: rise above the bigger obstacles that life will present to you. 1858 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 1: My next guest, she's here, Sean just Scott. She's the 1859 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:06,200 Speaker 1: founder and CEO of three sixty Total Concept, which is 1860 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:10,360 Speaker 1: the portfolio projects totally one point seven bill. You know 1861 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying something say something I'm saying. You know 1862 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 1: one point seven media, I'm rocking. I'm rocking now, I'm 1863 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,599 Speaker 1: rocking when you get to the billion. Now. My degree 1864 01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,839 Speaker 1: is in mathematic I start losing counts. So I'm excited 1865 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 1: to talk about how she can remain so calm and 1866 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: in her bio she can put one point seven billion 1867 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 1: dollars which has included giants such as b et, Uber, Comcast, Kaiser, Permanente, 1868 01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:37,800 Speaker 1: major transitor agencies, major transfer agency, and several international airports. 1869 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 1: Miss her vision of creating the premier consulting firm specializing 1870 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 1: in program management in the areas of monitoring and contract compliance, 1871 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 1: logistics and facilities and management three sixty incorporated communication components 1872 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,479 Speaker 1: such as public relations, strategy, social media, media production as 1873 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 1: an added benefit to turning their client concepts into reality. 1874 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:04,720 Speaker 1: Please work the money making conversation, Shanda Scott, thank you 1875 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,839 Speaker 1: for that wonderful introduction. Well, well, one point seven billion 1876 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,880 Speaker 1: dollars Okay, this is a money making conversation, Miss Scott, 1877 01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,839 Speaker 1: talk to us about being able to put that number 1878 01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:20,080 Speaker 1: in your bio with credibility. Well, those are mega projects, 1879 01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,559 Speaker 1: and my firm does work on mega projects to make 1880 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,520 Speaker 1: sure that not only our company, but other historically underutilized 1881 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: companies are a part of these projects. Most of the 1882 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 1: projects we worked on our voter approved bond projects. So 1883 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,480 Speaker 1: there are eight hundred million dollars a billion dollar projects 1884 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,640 Speaker 1: that voter money is paying for. So then I we 1885 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 1: feel that it's important that we as the voters and 1886 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,880 Speaker 1: we as supporters are part of those projects, and that's 1887 01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,679 Speaker 1: mainly our role is to build equity on these types 1888 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,880 Speaker 1: of projects so that more people can have the same 1889 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:58,720 Speaker 1: conversation that others have had historically that they are collectively 1890 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,879 Speaker 1: working on billion dollars projects and working on these projects 1891 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:05,240 Speaker 1: to ensure that there's better participation and there's money for everybody. 1892 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,439 Speaker 1: So that tells you how much money is out there 1893 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,439 Speaker 1: for everyone. It really is. And so when I when 1894 01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 1: I look at I started with at one point seven billion. 1895 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 1: But I want to I want to back up a 1896 01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,639 Speaker 1: minute and talk about you being the CEO of three 1897 01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:20,040 Speaker 1: sixty total concept? What is that? Lacking is that? And 1898 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:24,439 Speaker 1: when was it founded? So I'm actually a fourth generation 1899 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 1: business owner. Our great great grandfather was a developer after 1900 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,400 Speaker 1: being born into slavery, well not great great great grandfather 1901 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,840 Speaker 1: born into slavery, became a developer in the Rocky Mountains 1902 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 1: in Colorado, in the historically segregated area. He built resort 1903 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,880 Speaker 1: homes and we have one still in our family from 1904 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,200 Speaker 1: the nineteen from nineteen twenties that he built my great 1905 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:48,240 Speaker 1: grandfather um and so that's our family legacy. My parents 1906 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,280 Speaker 1: owned one of the largest African American owned food services 1907 01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,160 Speaker 1: businesses in the eighties. So we have a legacy of 1908 01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,400 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship in our family. And I'm actually the CEO of 1909 01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,360 Speaker 1: three the Concept, but I have twenty five years business 1910 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,960 Speaker 1: management experience. I started this company fourteen years ago to 1911 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,479 Speaker 1: be a part of the solution, to be a part 1912 01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 1: of the solution that builds equity not only in the 1913 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,799 Speaker 1: in the communities in California, but nationwide. So the CEO 1914 01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: work that I do is part of run of my company, 1915 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,280 Speaker 1: but we have multi megaprojects that we also work on 1916 01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,320 Speaker 1: and help our clients meet their project needs, okay from 1917 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 1: them infrastructure and in capital programs and all that. So 1918 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,559 Speaker 1: a lot of the buildings and rail projects that are 1919 01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,280 Speaker 1: in the in this country. We are our team have 1920 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,360 Speaker 1: worked on what's really important that we we slowed this 1921 01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,080 Speaker 1: down and break it down because you know, fourteen years 1922 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 1: and you seem to be ahead of the curve, especially 1923 01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,080 Speaker 1: when you see now that diversity is such a big 1924 01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,559 Speaker 1: demand now and so and you've all your brand has 1925 01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:54,080 Speaker 1: already established your resume, your bio experience. How has it 1926 01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,160 Speaker 1: been for your brand being that I'm saying this is 1927 01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,599 Speaker 1: publicly that you are ahead of the curve in your 1928 01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,640 Speaker 1: thought process, which is a vision airy portfolio, going in 1929 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:09,000 Speaker 1: these logistics, going into these management contractual needs that the 1930 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 1: companies really demand right now. So that's interesting that you 1931 01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,080 Speaker 1: said that about being have to the curve. I see 1932 01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,000 Speaker 1: it as being blessed um and having a level of 1933 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,760 Speaker 1: discernment in areas that you don't even know how you're 1934 01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna use it. So this time last year my company, 1935 01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:29,000 Speaker 1: I I implemented a a work from home remote pilot 1936 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,640 Speaker 1: that we tested out during the holidays because most of 1937 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: our companies that we partner with and work with around 1938 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,919 Speaker 1: the holidays and gets it's a little slower in their businesses. 1939 01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,280 Speaker 1: They'll take holidays, but we're still doing project work. So 1940 01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:42,800 Speaker 1: I thought it would be a good time for my 1941 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,400 Speaker 1: firm to test out this pilot. That's something I wanted 1942 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,840 Speaker 1: to do, but I didn't necessarily comfortable because you know, 1943 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,280 Speaker 1: with that time working remote, you know, how do you 1944 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 1: make sure that everybody's being productive? Are we gonna still 1945 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,840 Speaker 1: be productive? And then if everybody is not doing it, 1946 01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,360 Speaker 1: how are our clients going to receive it? So we 1947 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,880 Speaker 1: were able to do it for are two or three 1948 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,200 Speaker 1: months and then it worked fine and it was a 1949 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,679 Speaker 1: it was a good pilot, and then we went opened 1950 01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,719 Speaker 1: up and got into our new office space. And after 1951 01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:13,800 Speaker 1: that the pandemic hit. And right before the pandemic hit, 1952 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,040 Speaker 1: I talked to my team because I think our people 1953 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,519 Speaker 1: will started feeling nervous about coming into the office, and 1954 01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want them to feel like they had to come. 1955 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,800 Speaker 1: If it's worked that we can still do remotely. So 1956 01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,560 Speaker 1: since we had already and let's be in a boutique business, 1957 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,760 Speaker 1: since we had already done this a pilot, I knew 1958 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,639 Speaker 1: we would be still efficient and we would also still 1959 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 1: be productive, and we could still meet our client's needs 1960 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:38,599 Speaker 1: while still work remote. So before the pandemic hit, I said, 1961 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna institute back our work remote option. So if 1962 01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,160 Speaker 1: every if you want to work remote, you can do that. 1963 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:44,559 Speaker 1: If you want to come to the office, that will 1964 01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,639 Speaker 1: be open as well. Well. The next week, our entire 1965 01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 1: state was shut down and our city was shut down, 1966 01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,720 Speaker 1: but we were still able to pivot because we had 1967 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,240 Speaker 1: already done this pilot during the time where it wasn't 1968 01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,200 Speaker 1: a crisis. So when the crisis, we actually were helping 1969 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,120 Speaker 1: some of our big billion dollar business clients pivot as 1970 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,559 Speaker 1: well because they hadn't instituted a work from a remote 1971 01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:10,200 Speaker 1: work remote option, and the fact that they have such 1972 01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:13,719 Speaker 1: a larger workforce that their pivot was gonna be much harder. 1973 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,840 Speaker 1: So we were able to help them in ways that 1974 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,160 Speaker 1: we weren't helping them before. Because now even though we 1975 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,040 Speaker 1: had been using a zoom since two thousand and sixteen 1976 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,360 Speaker 1: when we had Uber as a client, we had started 1977 01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,519 Speaker 1: using Zoo. We were able to start planning and doing 1978 01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 1: meetings and hosting outreach and other engagement meetings that we 1979 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:35,360 Speaker 1: normally did in person virtually. So thank God for that pipe. 1980 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,479 Speaker 1: Look at your children's eyes to see the true magic 1981 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,040 Speaker 1: of a forest. It's a storybook world for them. You 1982 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,120 Speaker 1: look and see a tree. They see the wrinkled face 1983 01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:48,559 Speaker 1: of a wizard with arms outstretched to the sky. They 1984 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,720 Speaker 1: see treasure and pebbles. They see a windy path that 1985 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 1: could lead to adventure, and they see you. They're fearless. Guide. 1986 01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,640 Speaker 1: Is this fascinating world? 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I appreciate 2009 01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:14,080 Speaker 1: that Smokey's only said only you can prevent wildfires, But 2010 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,799 Speaker 1: I'm filling in because there's a lot more to report, 2011 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,120 Speaker 1: like when they're parched or windy conditions out there, You've 2012 01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:24,320 Speaker 1: gotta be extra careful with things like burning yardwags. After all, 2013 01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,960 Speaker 1: wildfires can start anywhere, even in your neck of the woods. 2014 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,840 Speaker 1: Go to smokey bear dot com to learn more about 2015 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,759 Speaker 1: wildfire prevention brought to you by the U. S. Forest Service, 2016 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,800 Speaker 1: your state forester, and the ad Council. And that we 2017 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,559 Speaker 1: were able to just pivot through. Even though we've had 2018 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,520 Speaker 1: some of our business, some of our airport business impacted 2019 01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:46,240 Speaker 1: by the pandemic, the consulting part of our business was 2020 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,240 Speaker 1: we were able still to provide services for our clients 2021 01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 1: and even help build more service with them because now 2022 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,920 Speaker 1: we have this virtual world and since we also produce 2023 01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 1: TV content, we were able to produce the meetings that 2024 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,679 Speaker 1: we need to actually be a zoom that is now 2025 01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,360 Speaker 1: used as production because of the pandemic and the social 2026 01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:11,479 Speaker 1: distancing requirements. Really, um, first of all, congratulations, you know, 2027 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,400 Speaker 1: because of the fact that that is that is a 2028 01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,479 Speaker 1: big turn. When you hear you know, Twitter to a 2029 01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,720 Speaker 1: much stay home Facebook said, you know, we're gonna we 2030 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,920 Speaker 1: want everybody to be home with a certain period of 2031 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,840 Speaker 1: their production character just just looking at the technical side, 2032 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,320 Speaker 1: the paperwork side, and lets somebody out there physically, you know, 2033 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,640 Speaker 1: putting something together. Then there is a thought process that 2034 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 1: they can be productive in an environment. But let me 2035 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 1: ask you this question, because I saw there's always an 2036 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 1: undercurrent of you know, you can work at home, but 2037 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,639 Speaker 1: do you still how do you manage that person? How 2038 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,880 Speaker 1: do you allow what are the raised opportunity as far 2039 01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 1: as you know their work responsibility, their promotion within the company. Also, 2040 01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,040 Speaker 1: do they get paid a little less because of the 2041 01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 1: fact that they're working at home. Facebook has said that 2042 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,439 Speaker 1: where you'll take on this because you deal with these 2043 01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,439 Speaker 1: situations on the regular basis and people are asking you 2044 01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,679 Speaker 1: these type of questions. Facebook has said it publicly. Look, 2045 01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,920 Speaker 1: if you work from home, you're not don't expect to 2046 01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 1: get paid the same amount of money if you come 2047 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 1: to work, well, well, well, I feel like when you 2048 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,960 Speaker 1: start playing that with people's money, that's that may not 2049 01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,160 Speaker 1: be fair because I think I always believe that you 2050 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,479 Speaker 1: should pay people their worth, you know, like I always 2051 01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,559 Speaker 1: say about equal pay. I was like for women, especially 2052 01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,599 Speaker 1: African American women, if you want equal pay, then start 2053 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,000 Speaker 1: your own business because you're gonna pay yourself. You'll create 2054 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,000 Speaker 1: you can create the environment that makes to pay fair. 2055 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,760 Speaker 1: So I always believe in uh, you know, whatever are 2056 01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,360 Speaker 1: the firms, the people that work for us, the teams 2057 01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 1: that were on, I'm gonna negotiate the highest and best 2058 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:50,400 Speaker 1: for them that's fair and reasonable. And I think people 2059 01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:52,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't get paid their worth. So I I feel like 2060 01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,160 Speaker 1: a billion dollar company they should not then look at 2061 01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:01,519 Speaker 1: necessarily reducing someone's pay. Understand that now if you move 2062 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:05,160 Speaker 1: out of California, they're starting to reduce your pay because 2063 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,519 Speaker 1: of the cost of living. Because some people we're getting 2064 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,760 Speaker 1: on this bandwagon where they're like, oh, I can get 2065 01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,440 Speaker 1: this California pay and then I can move to Nebraska 2066 01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 1: and still well that almost is a way of kind 2067 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,559 Speaker 1: of pimping the system, right, So like, no, I can 2068 01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,000 Speaker 1: understand where you may reduce it to the comparable area 2069 01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:25,400 Speaker 1: that you live in versus you getting paid California rates 2070 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,439 Speaker 1: even if you live now moving to Nebraska. Now, if 2071 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,959 Speaker 1: that's your business and you plan and you do that, 2072 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,840 Speaker 1: that might be a good business move. But if you're 2073 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:37,240 Speaker 1: working for someone and you're an employee, that I can 2074 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,080 Speaker 1: understand that strategy is maybe relooking at how much you're 2075 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,640 Speaker 1: paying people, because that would be an over compensation for 2076 01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,479 Speaker 1: the work they're doing based on the cost of it. 2077 01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,320 Speaker 1: And then then just to correct myself, that's what faithbook 2078 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:49,120 Speaker 1: was doing. Based on the cost of living in the 2079 01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:52,600 Speaker 1: area that you're in, then you will be compensating accordingly, 2080 01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 1: like if you're in New York, you might get nity 2081 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,400 Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas with the cost of living unless you 2082 01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,919 Speaker 1: might get seventy I believe that what there was referencing 2083 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,599 Speaker 1: an article I was talking about, let's talk about being 2084 01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,559 Speaker 1: a black female and successful black female with a woman 2085 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,320 Speaker 1: of color the president elect. Where what does that what 2086 01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,720 Speaker 1: does that line yourself of how proud are you are? 2087 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,040 Speaker 1: Does it create a conference zone? There's it quite a 2088 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 1: conference zone? Or finally, because when she said, I'm not 2089 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:25,040 Speaker 1: the last person to send on the stage and to 2090 01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,439 Speaker 1: send to the White House, what are your thoughts with 2091 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,759 Speaker 1: that being the fact that you've been out there bumping heads, fighting, battling, 2092 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,200 Speaker 1: trying to get respect, getting paid less than even your 2093 01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,840 Speaker 1: female white counterparts. Where are you here with their ms? 2094 01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,120 Speaker 1: Ms Scott? I think it was so amazing to see 2095 01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,799 Speaker 1: all the pictures of the young girls that we're looking 2096 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:49,160 Speaker 1: and what that will do to their trajectory and how 2097 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,559 Speaker 1: their confidence and how that feels like, how and so 2098 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,639 Speaker 1: how important it is to really see people who look 2099 01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,360 Speaker 1: like you in these roles. I mean, I feel like 2100 01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,360 Speaker 1: I've seen my mentors who look like me. I work 2101 01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,479 Speaker 1: for an African American owned consulting firm, you know, years ago, 2102 01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:07,080 Speaker 1: so and my parents had businesses and my a lot 2103 01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,960 Speaker 1: of my mentors are look like me. They're African American women, 2104 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,400 Speaker 1: So you know, to see a woman of color in 2105 01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:16,920 Speaker 1: the highest position and these young people see that, I 2106 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,120 Speaker 1: think that is That's the part that feels my heart 2107 01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,720 Speaker 1: because I feel like everything that we're doing now is 2108 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,559 Speaker 1: for the next generation. We're planning seeds for their for 2109 01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,320 Speaker 1: trees to grow, for them to sit under, you know. 2110 01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,960 Speaker 1: So things that we're experiencing now is that already happened. 2111 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,400 Speaker 1: Like what we're experiencing now was work done in the past. 2112 01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,960 Speaker 1: So the work we're doing now is for the future generations. 2113 01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,320 Speaker 1: So what makes me feel good about all all the 2114 01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,839 Speaker 1: blessings in this moment is that this is planning seeds 2115 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,720 Speaker 1: for our next generation. And that's our responsibility. Because I 2116 01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:53,160 Speaker 1: always tell my colleagues, if the younger generation aren't succeeding. 2117 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,479 Speaker 1: That's our fault. You know, we are their mentors. We 2118 01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,639 Speaker 1: are there, We are leaving seeds for their for their 2119 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,400 Speaker 1: legacy to build on. So I just get excited to 2120 01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 1: see all the little pictures of the little girls with 2121 01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:11,719 Speaker 1: the with the cluff balls looking at the moment when 2122 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,400 Speaker 1: you know the election was done. You know, I think 2123 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,439 Speaker 1: that's all such a beautiful moment for those generations, and 2124 01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,680 Speaker 1: just I want to see how they'll turn out and 2125 01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,800 Speaker 1: what they'll what life would look like when that's them, 2126 01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, thirty forty fifty years from now. You know, 2127 01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you about myself, mscott Um when 2128 01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 1: I look at you talk about generations and uh parents 2129 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,600 Speaker 1: who are entrepreneurs and have owning property, and you know, 2130 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm just a morning the hood you Uh. I can 2131 01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:43,800 Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid. We went to a 2132 01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:47,920 Speaker 1: wallerman a farm when I was a kid, and you know, 2133 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,919 Speaker 1: our house may I don't even remember if it even exists. 2134 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,680 Speaker 1: But I feel so fortunate to talk to people who 2135 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,800 Speaker 1: family got it, you know, who who understood legacy, who 2136 01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:03,920 Speaker 1: understood value and and steward generational wealth, who understood generational opportunity. 2137 01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,480 Speaker 1: I guess I should say, and held on the things 2138 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,800 Speaker 1: that have so much value, but also kind of like 2139 01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,360 Speaker 1: set you apart from other people who who the forty 2140 01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,400 Speaker 1: in the forty eacre and the Murle opportunity, the mural 2141 01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 1: died and the land got sold. Okay, So how does 2142 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,760 Speaker 1: that when you talk about your family opened up that 2143 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,800 Speaker 1: where is that that with you? From a pride standpoint, 2144 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:30,120 Speaker 1: From a legacy standpoint, well, well, I'm I'm happy that 2145 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,960 Speaker 1: they were able to pass down, you know, wisdom and 2146 01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,680 Speaker 1: knowledge and that I'm able to collect from our family 2147 01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: the history and put the pieces together to kind of 2148 01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,080 Speaker 1: evolve in paint a picture from my life. But it 2149 01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,320 Speaker 1: was not without struggle, and it was not without sacrifice, 2150 01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,720 Speaker 1: and it's not without loss. I mean, you know, as 2151 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:52,200 Speaker 1: an African American in this world, no matter what level 2152 01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 1: of success your family has had through the legacies, you've 2153 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 1: also had lost. I mean, my great grandfather was born 2154 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,400 Speaker 1: a lave. I mean he was his mom was a slave, 2155 01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,360 Speaker 1: His dad was a slave owner, and that was his beginning. 2156 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:09,920 Speaker 1: He had to work to become a developer. He just 2157 01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,240 Speaker 1: had a vision to do that. You know, it's by 2158 01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,240 Speaker 1: the grace of God that my grandmother kept the family 2159 01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,839 Speaker 1: some of the family property in our family for legacy 2160 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:22,680 Speaker 1: and made a intentional approach to make sure that it 2161 01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,880 Speaker 1: stayed in the family and passed down. And now we're 2162 01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 1: able to see that importance and do it developing measures 2163 01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:33,520 Speaker 1: to pass it down to the next generations. My family 2164 01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,080 Speaker 1: was very successful, but there was loss, you know, I mean, 2165 01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,840 Speaker 1: they had to figure out ways, and we all had 2166 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,000 Speaker 1: to figure out ways from um not being able to 2167 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:46,400 Speaker 1: pass down generational wealth light our white counterparts are able 2168 01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,280 Speaker 1: to do like they were able to do when they 2169 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,240 Speaker 1: were owning slaves and passed And I went to the 2170 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:56,440 Speaker 1: National Historic Museum of Black Coach African American Culture in Washington, 2171 01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:00,440 Speaker 1: z c. And you actually see where they bequeath people 2172 01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:04,360 Speaker 1: African people from generations. So they gave wealth to their 2173 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:08,320 Speaker 1: family even in free labor, for for multi generations. My 2174 01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 1: grandmother's a hundred and two years old in Houston on 2175 01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,040 Speaker 1: my mom's side, I mean, and you know, you just 2176 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,320 Speaker 1: think about just in just her life, in our lives, 2177 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,560 Speaker 1: that was all that generational of free wealth that was 2178 01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,400 Speaker 1: was slave wealth. So then we now have to build 2179 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:28,520 Speaker 1: on each generation African Americans, even if you're passing down 2180 01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,520 Speaker 1: wisdom and knowledge. You may not be able to pass 2181 01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,080 Speaker 1: down all that you've had and all that you've gained 2182 01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 1: for five and four generations. I mean that you probably 2183 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,640 Speaker 1: can count the families in the in the United States, 2184 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 1: African America have done that. But what the blessing is 2185 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,320 Speaker 1: is that families like ours have passed down wisdom and 2186 01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,600 Speaker 1: knowledge and the things that you cannot even pay for, 2187 01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,400 Speaker 1: and the and the ability to learn the best practices 2188 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,800 Speaker 1: and learn lessons, learn from whatever they've done. And that 2189 01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:58,320 Speaker 1: part I passed down to my son, you know, so 2190 01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:02,320 Speaker 1: now he'll be like a fifth generation entrepreneur and then 2191 01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,120 Speaker 1: he can continue so like from our generations to my 2192 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,080 Speaker 1: great grand children. We can see that these things will 2193 01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:11,240 Speaker 1: be in an hour at a point where the passing 2194 01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,280 Speaker 1: down of wealth we can do. But the generational gap 2195 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,720 Speaker 1: and the racial wealth gap, I mean, it's still so vast. 2196 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:22,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to money making conversations with Rashan McDonald, will 2197 01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,080 Speaker 1: be right back. Cars today are like a computer on wheels. 2198 01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,240 Speaker 1: But you can fix any of these new features yourself, 2199 01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 1: so when something breaks, it could cause you a fortune. 2200 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,280 Speaker 1: And now it's not the time for expensive repairs. 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I'm 2218 01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:29,360 Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald. He's so, maybe that's something slip 2219 01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,040 Speaker 1: out there. You said Houston. Did you say Houston, Texas? Right? 2220 01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,000 Speaker 1: My grandmother has lived in Houston for a hundred and 2221 01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:38,640 Speaker 1: two years. Okay, now I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas. 2222 01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,280 Speaker 1: Fit forward, So you letting little stuff slip out your 2223 01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:46,440 Speaker 1: young brother cast him and sister sister back in the day, 2224 01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:51,280 Speaker 1: and now your grandfather lives in Houston, Texas now right, 2225 01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:56,880 Speaker 1: and my mom was born there, okay, mom high school? Okay, 2226 01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Now she probably knows my oldest sister to them because 2227 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:03,960 Speaker 1: because I was I was born and raised in fifth Ward. 2228 02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, which is that area? So so we after 2229 02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:13,280 Speaker 1: then we moved into UH, to the northeast side of Houston. 2230 02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,680 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if we have connected alone 2231 02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:20,480 Speaker 1: the way, because Cashmere is where she went to school. 2232 02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:24,160 Speaker 1: She graduated cash Oh yeah, she probably does it. It's 2233 02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:27,640 Speaker 1: a so it's a powerful connection. Canvaina Gardenlum not? Oh? 2234 02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely so. So with that being said, she should 2235 02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,480 Speaker 1: be slipping out this just to be dropping. Let's talk 2236 02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,120 Speaker 1: about this. You co host your brother, he's an actor 2237 02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:40,800 Speaker 1: and uh sibling what sibling rivalry? Talk about that podcast? 2238 02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:44,520 Speaker 1: And why are you suddenly getting in front of the 2239 02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:48,320 Speaker 1: mic and you've been so productive so successful behind the mic? 2240 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,480 Speaker 1: What I know your brother that's why he's made his dollars. 2241 02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:55,520 Speaker 1: You made your dollars, you know, slid, quiet, you articularly 2242 02:00:55,520 --> 02:01:00,240 Speaker 1: you beautiful? Why now why not? Misscott? Well, I had 2243 02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:03,280 Speaker 1: a show for fourteen years is our fourteene year now 2244 02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 1: called Spotlight with Ghonda, and it was why how I 2245 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:10,720 Speaker 1: celebrated success that came out of Oakland, California and all 2246 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,320 Speaker 1: the legacy and the rich history and the positive stories 2247 02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:15,520 Speaker 1: in front of the camera. But you're right, I like 2248 02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:18,720 Speaker 1: being producer and behind the scenes, I'm like coming up 2249 02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,440 Speaker 1: with the vision and the creativity. But the what Sibling 2250 02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Robbery moved me because so many people wanted us to 2251 02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:27,800 Speaker 1: start sharing our story about our family, our legacy. My 2252 02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:31,040 Speaker 1: brother and I have you know, projects that are based 2253 02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:35,400 Speaker 1: on loosely based on our family and our different stories 2254 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:38,560 Speaker 1: in our family. So the podcast just became like the 2255 02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:42,080 Speaker 1: right moment and the right time to start sharing our 2256 02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:44,880 Speaker 1: just position between me being a girl and him being 2257 02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:47,360 Speaker 1: a boy, and us being siblings, but us being close 2258 02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,960 Speaker 1: and the closest of our families. What people wanted to 2259 02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,800 Speaker 1: wanted to hear about and how it evolved because we 2260 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,280 Speaker 1: always talked about when we were growing up. They called 2261 02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,160 Speaker 1: my mom Claire because they talked about our family was 2262 02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,760 Speaker 1: like the Huxtables, when we were to play, if everybody 2263 02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:04,000 Speaker 1: would come and hang out, and my mom was like Claire, 2264 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,760 Speaker 1: she had to Claire attitude. She was professional, she was 2265 02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,880 Speaker 1: flied and she didn't like and so and my dad was, 2266 02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, comedy, fun and professional, but just really a card. Right. 2267 02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:18,920 Speaker 1: So we are now sharing the values of our family 2268 02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,680 Speaker 1: values and how we were brought up and the importance 2269 02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:24,120 Speaker 1: of that now. But then we also talked about the 2270 02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:27,240 Speaker 1: what sibling robbery is like sometimes we don't agree and 2271 02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,840 Speaker 1: we have different opinions and we share that too. And 2272 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:33,480 Speaker 1: we're also being able to have you know, celebrity siblings 2273 02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:36,160 Speaker 1: come on the show to talk about their upbringing and 2274 02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:39,480 Speaker 1: how they became successful and how those same family values 2275 02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:42,760 Speaker 1: were it's still in them. So it's just fun and 2276 02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:47,240 Speaker 1: it's it's fun, funny and informative. Is what sibling rivalry? Well, 2277 02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,880 Speaker 1: the thing about it that is so many ways. That's 2278 02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:53,240 Speaker 1: that's why, that's why Maya talking to you, because you 2279 02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:56,280 Speaker 1: are headed the curb with a lot of ways what 2280 02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:58,920 Speaker 1: people are and you've been able to manipulate it to 2281 02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,960 Speaker 1: a business model. Everything tends to go back to you 2282 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:05,000 Speaker 1: from an entrepreneurial standpoint. You know, you look at the 2283 02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,360 Speaker 1: model you say, I kind of use this the market 2284 02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,720 Speaker 1: and brand and build on my brand or my messaging, 2285 02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,080 Speaker 1: and so what is the message and you're trying to 2286 02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:18,760 Speaker 1: tell us about you know, your company h three total concepts. So, 2287 02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,320 Speaker 1: like I said, I built the founder of the company 2288 02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,480 Speaker 1: based on being a part of the solution. You know, 2289 02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:27,960 Speaker 1: so many times you hear about the racial disparity, the 2290 02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:31,520 Speaker 1: racial disparity gap. You hear about how we are struggling 2291 02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,720 Speaker 1: as a community. You hear about how we're left out 2292 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:35,880 Speaker 1: and not have a seat at the table. And I'm 2293 02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:38,440 Speaker 1: always saying, well, let's build our own table and invite 2294 02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,240 Speaker 1: people to have a seat with us. So the the 2295 02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:47,160 Speaker 1: by Company is about bringing opportunity to others in a 2296 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:50,160 Speaker 1: major way. You know, like I said, these major bond 2297 02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:55,360 Speaker 1: programs and these infrastructure projects are billion dollar projects that 2298 02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to be at the table and 2299 02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:02,200 Speaker 1: participate in the construct ouction area and the consulting area 2300 02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:06,400 Speaker 1: in so many areas on these projects, and there's such 2301 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:10,360 Speaker 1: a vast disparity, but how we're underutilized that my company 2302 02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,800 Speaker 1: is like the bridge that help businesses that are historically 2303 02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,960 Speaker 1: underutilized actually be able to be a part of these 2304 02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:21,280 Speaker 1: projects and build equity and build capacity so that their 2305 02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,640 Speaker 1: firm can be bigger and better and do the same 2306 02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,120 Speaker 1: thing for other firms. That's what we really are about. 2307 02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:29,760 Speaker 1: We're about equity and operat to be in that bridge 2308 02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,240 Speaker 1: of opportunity. You know, here's the interesting thing about it, 2309 02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,520 Speaker 1: and letna just read right here. You know, you're creating 2310 02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:40,480 Speaker 1: a premier consulting firm specializing in program management, in area monitoring, 2311 02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:47,600 Speaker 1: and contract compliance, which is really, really, really, that's really 2312 02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's put when I when I look at 2313 02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:51,520 Speaker 1: job opportunities, you know, you don't just see a black 2314 02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:54,920 Speaker 1: person think about that as an option, you know, monitoring, 2315 02:04:55,320 --> 02:05:00,880 Speaker 1: contract compliance, logistics and facilities management, every one of those 2316 02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:06,320 Speaker 1: things I just said, say screams, white squeeze white opportunities. 2317 02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:09,960 Speaker 1: White people got to know lockdown. How did you in 2318 02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:13,720 Speaker 1: your mindset see an opportunity and how did you get 2319 02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:16,720 Speaker 1: the door cracked open and then and stay in the 2320 02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:21,080 Speaker 1: door once they closed behind you. So so my opportunity came, 2321 02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:24,640 Speaker 1: like I said, from Africa where what I just said, though, 2322 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you are absolutely telling the truth right what you mean 2323 02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:32,000 Speaker 1: the perception that it is a white because like what 2324 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:35,640 Speaker 1: what and that's why I'm not upset about how white 2325 02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:38,960 Speaker 1: men network because it becomes your network, like the move 2326 02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,320 Speaker 1: when you know the people you trust. If you need 2327 02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:43,880 Speaker 1: to call someone who, you're gonna call the people someone 2328 02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:46,240 Speaker 1: that you know as for a reference, so that's what 2329 02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:50,280 Speaker 1: their reference looks like. Right. So it's important that we 2330 02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:52,520 Speaker 1: do the same thing for our community. And I've been 2331 02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:56,000 Speaker 1: blessed to have had black women, including my mom and 2332 02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:59,600 Speaker 1: other black women business owners cracked the door open for me, 2333 02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,040 Speaker 1: and that's why I feel it's important for me to 2334 02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:05,440 Speaker 1: keep the door kicked open, wide open for others who 2335 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,280 Speaker 1: look like me and like I always say. There's a 2336 02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:10,760 Speaker 1: study in Mackenzie that they came out in two thousand 2337 02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:14,839 Speaker 1: nineteen and it said that black business success is success 2338 02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:18,480 Speaker 1: for America because there's no time in history where we're 2339 02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:23,480 Speaker 1: successful where we're not inclusive. We're always inclusive. So black 2340 02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:27,920 Speaker 1: business is doing well, everybody is doing well. So it's 2341 02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,720 Speaker 1: important to us to make sure that black businesses are 2342 02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:34,560 Speaker 1: doing well so that America does well. So that's where 2343 02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:38,680 Speaker 1: my the the passion for my company, and the passion 2344 02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,200 Speaker 1: for the work we do comes from. And it's important 2345 02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,160 Speaker 1: that just as people who look like me open doors 2346 02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:46,280 Speaker 1: for me that I do the same thing. And that's 2347 02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:49,880 Speaker 1: where my family had My brother and I raised on 2348 02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:53,800 Speaker 1: that concept. And you know, and that's what really is 2349 02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:56,000 Speaker 1: so compelling to hear you talk because when you were 2350 02:06:56,000 --> 02:07:00,800 Speaker 1: talking about racism, which really confuses me because being a 2351 02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:02,800 Speaker 1: young man who grew up in the community, all I 2352 02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:07,240 Speaker 1: was taught was to uh, to achieve the white lifestyle, 2353 02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, get an education, you know, to follow the rules, 2354 02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, to provide a lifestyle that's be better than 2355 02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:16,879 Speaker 1: lifestyle I already had, which means you have to pay taxes, 2356 02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:21,520 Speaker 1: but he hadn't. Still Racism rears his ugly head. Racism 2357 02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,080 Speaker 1: still wants to block you. Racism still wants to deny 2358 02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,920 Speaker 1: you your real opportunity or your value, and that being 2359 02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:32,120 Speaker 1: that you not only are female, but your black female, 2360 02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:35,720 Speaker 1: which means that you get to experience sexism and get 2361 02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:38,760 Speaker 1: to be put in uncomfortable situations because you are attractive. 2362 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:43,080 Speaker 1: And talk to us about that, and and just the 2363 02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:46,280 Speaker 1: ability to keep your head up, to keep your head 2364 02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:50,120 Speaker 1: under understanding that your mission and your goals can be achieved, 2365 02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:52,720 Speaker 1: and you have achieved your goals and you will continue 2366 02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:55,560 Speaker 1: to achieve your goals. Talk to us about that, well, 2367 02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I am a woman of faith, you know what I mean. 2368 02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:01,640 Speaker 1: So so my spirits, reality and my faith in God 2369 02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:05,520 Speaker 1: is what really is my north star? Like literally north 2370 02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:08,960 Speaker 1: star right, because I tell people I don't see me 2371 02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,160 Speaker 1: like I'm looking at me on zoom. I can see me, 2372 02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,200 Speaker 1: I can reflection me in the mirror, but when I 2373 02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,080 Speaker 1: walk into the room, I don't know, I'm not looking 2374 02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:17,360 Speaker 1: at me. You're looking at me, right, So I'm looking 2375 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,360 Speaker 1: at me from the inside out. So I my it's 2376 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:25,120 Speaker 1: important to me that my internal mechanisms are strong and 2377 02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:28,160 Speaker 1: together and that looks like nothing that looks like that's 2378 02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:31,360 Speaker 1: a spirit that doesn't look like one black woman, black 2379 02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,400 Speaker 1: white male, you know. So you know, that's the only 2380 02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:39,200 Speaker 1: defense that I have to overcome any obstacles that come 2381 02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:43,000 Speaker 1: my way, be it based on race, being based on 2382 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, my gender, are being based on just you know, 2383 02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:51,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity, because sometimes you can be excluded because you know, 2384 02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:53,280 Speaker 1: you didn't go to the same college someone too, or 2385 02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:55,560 Speaker 1: you didn't do this the right way, or you know 2386 02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:58,520 Speaker 1: you didn't get this education and degree or whatever. But 2387 02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:02,200 Speaker 1: you see how there are people who have succeeded with 2388 02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:05,720 Speaker 1: less than that. So it's beyond just you know, what 2389 02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:08,040 Speaker 1: people see of each other. And I just feel like 2390 02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I always come from a place of hope because if 2391 02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:15,680 Speaker 1: we continue to allow how others feel about us become 2392 02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,920 Speaker 1: who we are and and define who we are, we 2393 02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:22,920 Speaker 1: will never you know, amount to all the possibilities God 2394 02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:26,040 Speaker 1: has for us, which is beyond anything a man could 2395 02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:29,120 Speaker 1: project on me. So I you know, and there's benefits 2396 02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:31,880 Speaker 1: to being a woman, and there's benefits. I'm glad now 2397 02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:35,960 Speaker 1: that African American you can you can talk unapologetically about 2398 02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:39,760 Speaker 1: black businesses and supporting black businesses now, you know, where 2399 02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,560 Speaker 1: there were times where you couldn't even say black without 2400 02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,280 Speaker 1: feeling nervous, you know. And it's like it's about time, 2401 02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:50,720 Speaker 1: because like I said, our benefit is going to benefit everyone, 2402 02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:54,880 Speaker 1: you know. Really, Uh, First of all, I'm so enjoying 2403 02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:59,240 Speaker 1: my conversation with you because the fact that, um we 2404 02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:01,800 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of similar journeys in the in 2405 02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the in the world of relationships, you know. And I 2406 02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:08,040 Speaker 1: firmly believe that racism is often tied tied to placement. 2407 02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,360 Speaker 1: I would tell people, you know, decisions are made when 2408 02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:13,560 Speaker 1: people conceive you. You have to always keep yourself in 2409 02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:16,000 Speaker 1: the in the line of sight of the decision makers. 2410 02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:18,840 Speaker 1: I always say, if you decisions are made left right 2411 02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and then front, if you're standing behind somebody when the 2412 02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,760 Speaker 1: decision is being made, and that's your career path, then 2413 02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:27,680 Speaker 1: guess what. Don't blame that on racism, Blame that on effort, 2414 02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Blame that on positioning. And you said something similar to 2415 02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:33,680 Speaker 1: that in the beginning of our conversation. And when you 2416 02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:36,680 Speaker 1: talk about I just bought a business in the Atlanta 2417 02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:40,680 Speaker 1: brought a building first, and like I would tell which 2418 02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, we buy houses, we buy jewelry by clothes, 2419 02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,800 Speaker 1: we buy cars by the building. It's not something normal, 2420 02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:50,280 Speaker 1: especially for African Americans or people of color. And so 2421 02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:53,520 Speaker 1: in my Google they if you go, if you if 2422 02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:55,920 Speaker 1: you put yourself in Google, then now have a little 2423 02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,880 Speaker 1: box you can check if you're black owned business that 2424 02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:02,600 Speaker 1: was not there. Proud to that you can click and 2425 02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:05,680 Speaker 1: say you are a black owned business. So now being 2426 02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:09,320 Speaker 1: a black owned business suddenly has value and recognition and 2427 02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:11,960 Speaker 1: you're telling the absolute truth. Sometimes there's a black owned 2428 02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:13,920 Speaker 1: business you didn't want to tell people. Sometimes you might 2429 02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:16,040 Speaker 1: want to let them think I'm white. You know, I 2430 02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:18,480 Speaker 1: don't want to lose no opportunity racism might stop me. 2431 02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Racil still might stop me, but least it's allowed me 2432 02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:24,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity to recognize myself and be proud of the 2433 02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:27,120 Speaker 1: fact that I'm a black man by purchasing the building, 2434 02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,680 Speaker 1: employing people paying taxes, paying taxes in this country. And 2435 02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:34,720 Speaker 1: that's important. And so when I I shifted that because 2436 02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:36,840 Speaker 1: three things I want to close out talking to you 2437 02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,960 Speaker 1: about is the fact that you know, black lives matter. 2438 02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about COVID and eighteen and your 2439 02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:47,680 Speaker 1: work with Barack Obama. So where do you want to start? 2440 02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:49,920 Speaker 1: My lives matters? You know, I got you know, we're 2441 02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:53,280 Speaker 1: gonna go in there on the Black lives matter. You're right, 2442 02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:57,720 Speaker 1: Black lives do matter, and they've always mattered. Like the said, 2443 02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,320 Speaker 1: black lives built this country. You know, we are our 2444 02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:05,720 Speaker 1: forefathers were the hands that built the White House, where 2445 02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama famously says, you know, she thought about that 2446 02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:12,280 Speaker 1: every time that she was there as our first lady, 2447 02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:16,080 Speaker 1: that black slaves built this house. You know. So black 2448 02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:19,919 Speaker 1: lives matter and they've always mattered. And I'm happy to 2449 02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:23,280 Speaker 1: say that we can say that unapologetically, and I'm glad 2450 02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,960 Speaker 1: that that movement stayed with it and became not just 2451 02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:31,120 Speaker 1: a movement but the opportunity to make black lives understand 2452 02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:34,040 Speaker 1: that they matter, because us saying that to everybody else 2453 02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,800 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if we don't feel it ourselves. And so 2454 02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the way that black lives turned out at the polls 2455 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:43,040 Speaker 1: this year and they can see the impact of it 2456 02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:46,760 Speaker 1: is so important to understanding that black lives matter and 2457 02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:49,400 Speaker 1: that we know black as black lives that we matter. 2458 02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:53,840 Speaker 1: And COVID nineteen opened up the door to just show 2459 02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:59,840 Speaker 1: that moment that how black lives have been disparity, the disparity, 2460 02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:03,840 Speaker 1: and the impact that we've had in all the bad areas, 2461 02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, health disparity, wealth disparity, education disparity. I mean, 2462 02:13:08,240 --> 02:13:10,680 Speaker 1: the list goes on and on and on. All COVID 2463 02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:15,400 Speaker 1: did was give a moment that stopped the world to 2464 02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:20,160 Speaker 1: see a pandemic, to see how it's disapproportionately impacting the 2465 02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Black lives that are dying at you know, huge numbers 2466 02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:27,200 Speaker 1: from this disease. At the same time, opened up a 2467 02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:30,840 Speaker 1: door with the moment with George Floyd to see how 2468 02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:33,880 Speaker 1: racive and reasonable was impact in our lives as well. 2469 02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:36,840 Speaker 1: So even in the midst of a pandemic, God is 2470 02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:41,400 Speaker 1: still blessing to reveal things to show how black lives 2471 02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:45,320 Speaker 1: do matter and that we know that we matter. And 2472 02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:49,840 Speaker 1: your work with former President Barack Obama and President Obama 2473 02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:54,120 Speaker 1: and Mrs Obama, I will always say, consistently with the 2474 02:13:54,160 --> 02:14:00,360 Speaker 1: most authentic, genuine and amazing human beings, but definitely public 2475 02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:02,720 Speaker 1: officials that I've ever seen. And the and the part 2476 02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:05,600 Speaker 1: about it was is that they weren't like the bushes 2477 02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:09,360 Speaker 1: that were generationally raised to be prepared to be in 2478 02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:13,960 Speaker 1: the White House, but they were authentic human beings. Every 2479 02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:16,160 Speaker 1: time you saw it, engaged with them, they were the 2480 02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:18,920 Speaker 1: same way if whatever you see on TV about them 2481 02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:21,800 Speaker 1: is who they are in person, and that says a 2482 02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:24,400 Speaker 1: lot about a person. I mean, it's it made me 2483 02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:27,240 Speaker 1: even double check me as a person to make sure 2484 02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,680 Speaker 1: that I'm always operating at my highest level, that if 2485 02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm always in an opportunity to use a platform to 2486 02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:36,480 Speaker 1: help others, that I'm doing the same thing. Just in 2487 02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the way that they elevated us as a people, as 2488 02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:45,160 Speaker 1: a nation, as an entity, in the way they took 2489 02:14:45,200 --> 02:14:47,640 Speaker 1: on the roles and the sacrifice they made for us, 2490 02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:50,120 Speaker 1: and they served for eight years in the White House. 2491 02:14:50,240 --> 02:14:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean there is no other moment in life that 2492 02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,520 Speaker 1: you could ever feel that much pride in respect the 2493 02:14:57,560 --> 02:14:59,840 Speaker 1: way they opened it up for the world to see 2494 02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,760 Speaker 1: how we can operate at our best and we know it, 2495 02:15:03,160 --> 02:15:06,520 Speaker 1: but to know how they then reflected that in the 2496 02:15:06,640 --> 02:15:08,720 Speaker 1: roles that they were in, because they could have come 2497 02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:10,720 Speaker 1: in in any way they were, they were presidents, they 2498 02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:12,760 Speaker 1: could have been You see how you can act anyway. 2499 02:15:12,760 --> 02:15:15,520 Speaker 1: You gotta power, the control, you do whatever you want, right. 2500 02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,200 Speaker 1: They used that for the good and the betterment of 2501 02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:21,320 Speaker 1: all human beings and they continue to do that. So 2502 02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:26,360 Speaker 1: just just amazing to have seen in this lifetime that happened. 2503 02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:29,040 Speaker 1: It's just a blessing for all of us to see 2504 02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:31,400 Speaker 1: uh in our lifetime, which we thought. I know for 2505 02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:33,360 Speaker 1: a fact that I thought I I would thought to 2506 02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:35,720 Speaker 1: share this story which I remember. I got an opportunity 2507 02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:38,000 Speaker 1: to Steve Harvard and I was in the e Read 2508 02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Penthouse and they were doing a fundraiser for President of 2509 02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the Brock Obama. I remember where jay Z was there, 2510 02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:49,400 Speaker 1: Beyonce was there and everything, and and Steve asked me, 2511 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:51,440 Speaker 1: he said, what do you think. I said, he never 2512 02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:54,120 Speaker 1: went not with a name like Barack Obama, because I 2513 02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't feel this country with his race bait bated personality, 2514 02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:01,000 Speaker 1: which we've seen so much done during the run of 2515 02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm gonna call him Donald Trump because what 2516 02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:06,800 Speaker 1: he's done is a president has been a disgrace for 2517 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:10,600 Speaker 1: our country, for me too. And I told my French 2518 02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:12,840 Speaker 1: stephen a spirit, I said, man, look, I said, I 2519 02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:15,080 Speaker 1: he gotta lose. I can't. I can't get out of 2520 02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:18,520 Speaker 1: my I can't go down the street wondering if somebody 2521 02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:21,120 Speaker 1: can just drive by me, drive by me and feel 2522 02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:22,920 Speaker 1: they have a right to be able to abuse me 2523 02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:26,000 Speaker 1: because he's now the president, because he's given the right 2524 02:16:26,080 --> 02:16:28,240 Speaker 1: to say that I have no value just but it's 2525 02:16:28,240 --> 02:16:31,480 Speaker 1: not about a job. And sometimes when you make money, 2526 02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,039 Speaker 1: you have to make sacrifices. You know, I'm wanting to 2527 02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:36,840 Speaker 1: pay taxes if it's gonna enable a person who has 2528 02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:39,920 Speaker 1: less opportunity to me to live a better lifestyle. Because 2529 02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:42,520 Speaker 1: we see what's happening now, you know they're playing lives 2530 02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:45,720 Speaker 1: with these no stimulus packages. Nobody has time to talk 2531 02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:48,400 Speaker 1: about it. They should get two hundred dollars two hundred dollars, 2532 02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:50,000 Speaker 1: or they should get six hundre allar the week. It 2533 02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:52,120 Speaker 1: should get three hundred dollars a week when people are 2534 02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:55,880 Speaker 1: able to say that and dismiss you like that, Ms Scott. 2535 02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:58,600 Speaker 1: That lets you know that this country has a long 2536 02:16:58,720 --> 02:17:04,440 Speaker 1: path of racism, of discrimination that is beyond just being 2537 02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:07,360 Speaker 1: people of color, but just people in general, and it's 2538 02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:10,360 Speaker 1: becoming a cast system. And to see you and as 2539 02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:14,480 Speaker 1: as profound, as articulate, as wonderful, I believe me you're 2540 02:17:14,520 --> 02:17:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm a friand of yours. This is the first time 2541 02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:19,280 Speaker 1: we're officially spoken. 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