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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation, and welcome back to the campus

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Speaker 2: of Saint Vincent College. It's a new day, it's a

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Speaker 2: new week. It's a new special edition of the Drive here.

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Speaker 2: Well not really, I guess the same thing we have

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Speaker 2: been doing. It's all part of your ongoing training camp

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Speaker 2: coverage here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Well Schuler and Matt Williamson with you here for the

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Speaker 2: next three hours, as we have been all weeks. However,

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Speaker 2: good news is this is a lot more going on

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Speaker 2: this week than last week. The bad news is we

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Speaker 2: are once again gonna have to do this hurry up

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Speaker 2: and wait thing, Matt, because about three minutes before we

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Speaker 2: went on air, there was once again some weather in

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Speaker 2: the area, and we were hoping to have the pads

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Speaker 2: popping and the balls by the time that you know,

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Speaker 2: you and I started talking today. But now all the

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Speaker 2: guys are up in the locker rooms once again, waiting

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Speaker 2: out another weather scenario delay here on campus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and most of the listeners know this. But we

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Speaker 3: went through the acclamation process, which is a four day stint,

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Speaker 3: and that was great, you know, and then they had

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Speaker 3: yesterday off. I like the way that Tomlin and the

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Speaker 3: team structured that, and I'm not teams can move their

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Speaker 3: schedules around a little, so there was much anticipation for

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Speaker 3: this one. And walking over here, always trying to do

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Speaker 3: lunch right before we're on the air, I did like

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Speaker 3: a super late lunch and I'm strolling straight here and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, man, it feels ominous here.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't even check my phone. I was

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Speaker 3: chatting with Rob King on the way over, so I

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Speaker 3: And we get here and I'm like, oh, I think

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Speaker 3: we'll be all right.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It looks like everyone's out there and warming up, and

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Speaker 3: then they go strolling off so hopefully in the next

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Speaker 3: three hours while we're on they come back. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: we'll get word that it's supposed to be twenty minute

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Speaker 3: break and then they'll be back.

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Speaker 4: Who knows. But apparently it's not just moisture, it's electricity too,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's another one of those days where

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Speaker 2: it looked gorgeous all day and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: here comes some clouds. I'll I'll never forget this, Matt. So,

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Speaker 2: my first training camp here was twenty eighteen, okay, and

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Speaker 2: I literally, like I got this job two weeks before

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Speaker 2: training camp. I was living in Philadelphia. They were like,

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Speaker 2: we need you back here in two weeks to start

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Speaker 2: on the first day of training camp. So it was

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Speaker 2: a pretty you know, quick transition.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of stuff to get.

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff in two weeks. And like I

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Speaker 2: literally moved into my new place the day before I

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Speaker 2: reported here to Latrobe, so like all my stuff was

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Speaker 2: in my garage.

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Speaker 4: For like two or three weeks. Didn't do any pack.

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Speaker 2: And being a kid, you know, a kid from Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: like I had all of my media experience was in

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Speaker 2: up my whole life watching Rob King, but I hadn't

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Speaker 2: met Rob King. You know. I grew up my whole

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Speaker 2: life listening to Mike Persuda, but I had never met

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Speaker 2: Mike Pursuer. The only people that I knew were Touching

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Speaker 2: when I was younger, and Adam, like, we knew each other,

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Speaker 2: you know, but we we didn't have the you know,

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Speaker 2: the relationship that we had throughout our working years obviously,

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Speaker 2: as yeah, the rain is coming down here now. But

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Speaker 2: me and Adam went to college together. I knew him

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Speaker 2: well and then and then I had a At that time,

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Speaker 2: I knew Wolf better than I did Tounch. So I

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Speaker 2: I'm moving to the dorms for like three weeks. Tell

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Speaker 2: me something that I should pack that I'm not pa like,

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Speaker 4: I never pack one either, I keep one in.

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Speaker 2: My backpack at all times now and I always have,

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Speaker 2: and it's like some of the best advice I've ever

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Speaker 3: There's been two or three times where I should have. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I never bring one. I never had my backpack with me,

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Speaker 3: I never my laptop with me. I just walk around

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Speaker 2: You got to steal an umbrella from somebody or something.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we are standing by. I'll continue to kind of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm see if there's any updates.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I was a little a little more right, see

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Speaker 4: So bad for the fans.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I mentioned this on Saturday where it

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Speaker 3: was this past Saturday, Yes, And I think I told

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Speaker 3: you my approach, which was not the h not everyone

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Speaker 3: should don't try this at home type of move. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: came in in this morning. I came even earlier, and

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Speaker 3: we always know the first Saturday of the year. Wow,

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Speaker 3: it's poor now poor yeah wow. But anyways, the first

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Speaker 2: To be crazy, always one of the crazy, and.

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Speaker 3: There's an Aaron Rodgers factor, and I want to see

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf live and Steiler Nation is super excited.

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Speaker 4: But even today it was not easy to get in, and.

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Speaker 3: The line was crazy much earlier than it was on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Not that it's I'm blaming the Steelers for canceling practice

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Speaker 3: clearly or postponing or whatever's happening to practice, but it

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Speaker 3: affects a lot of people, I guess my point, you know,

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Speaker 4: Basically, come on, man, it's.

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Speaker 2: It's less than ideal. And yeah, all the different people

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, you and I wanted to tell people what's happening.

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Speaker 2: We were excited to finally like, all right, we'll have

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Speaker 2: And it's instead of doing like some of the bigger

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Speaker 2: or five days of camp. If you want some good news,

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Speaker 2: the clouds that are rolling this way right now look

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Speaker 2: much more.

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Speaker 4: They're beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like blue skies and and some and some

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Speaker 2: minor delay. Was we are now just a little over

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tune in around two o'clock because that's when

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Speaker 2: practice will be going on. We are in a weather

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Speaker 2: and it's a it's a substantial rain that is coming

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Speaker 2: assuming like we're checking the dopplers and all that, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like any thunder and lightning. So still assuming

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Speaker 2: still no word from like the real reporters or anybody

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Speaker 4: So highly optimistic we're gonna see football.

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Speaker 2: That's where I was going with this. And and and

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Speaker 2: everyone's very clear. All the reporters on Twitter are saying

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Speaker 3: So the people down on the field, they're scuttling about

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Speaker 3: and tweeting and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but boy, it's pouring.

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Speaker 2: And that's where I was going with this. Matt is say,

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Speaker 2: even in twenty minutes, thirty minutes, forty minutes, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: On the first day that you were planning on live tackling, I.

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Speaker 4: Was thinking that too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so everyone had a day off yesterday, and

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Speaker 4: Obviously someone's injured, they're not.

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Speaker 3: But if you're Mike Tomlin right now and you're looking

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Speaker 4: Am I putting TJ. Watt out there today? You know

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Speaker 4: what I mean? Probably not. I mean, do we really

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Speaker 3: Noticeably better football player by in the next two hours

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: And he's in his nine years of or eight years,

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Speaker 2: eight years nine. I think he's heading into his ninth

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Speaker 2: season right, so his eight years of playing football in

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Speaker 3: I just want someone twisted an ankle or pulling a

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Speaker 3: groin or something like that because the fields are soft.

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Speaker 2: I'm completely with you. And again, I mean this is

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Speaker 2: in between the rain, Like that's how hard the rain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's your vision is impaired.

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Speaker 2: Your vision is impaired out here. It would not be

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Speaker 2: fun to be driving in type of rain. Although maybe

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Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a because no rain is

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Speaker 2: But you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Your wipers would be all the way up there, your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like there's some people just gutting it out,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, your center was her Big who retired today, by

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Speaker 2: We get our boy Keanu Betten out here with some

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Speaker 3: Now, to me, this is the only real drawback about

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Speaker 3: And I know they're building something to our right here

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Speaker 2: And you know you don't have a professional NFL indoor

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Speaker 2: we learn more information. Fortunately, Also, Matt sent me a

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Speaker 2: I did my homework all right. That was a problem

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Speaker 2: big problem for me is my parents could come on

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Speaker 2: when Matt Williamson sends me homework, football related homework, I

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Speaker 1: Flagging and Traffic Control by Greater Pittsburgh Community Food Bank,

438
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Speaker 1: by Downs by Hasa's Steak and Seahouse, by your Neighborhood

439
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Speaker 1: Forward Store, by Castle Rock, by clear View Federal Credit Unit,

440
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Speaker 1: and by us steal.

441
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 2: Back on campus here on the grounds of Chuck Nolefield,

442
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 2: where there's now still a light rain pouring down, but

443
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 2: much better than it was before. But the puddling the

444
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 2: remnants of all that rain absolutely noticeable, Matt. I mean

445
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: you can literally see water flowing down the sideline into

446
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 2: the end zone you were pointing out to me. There's

447
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 2: a couple extension cords here down on the field that

448
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 2: are now completely covered. I can only imagine that's some

449
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 2: type of safety hazard, so you'll have to be careful

450
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 2: with whoever has to handle that. But still all calm,

451
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: still no words, still waiting on will practice, rezume, won't practice,

452
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 2: rezume what the plan is, And I know it does look.

453
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 4: A little lighter, Yes, I mean again, but there was

454
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 4: nowhere to go but down I was poor.

455
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: I think that they will get out here. I just

456
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 2: think that they're going to have to go on the

457
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 2: turf field, fourth field, which is gonna be tougher for

458
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: us and all the fans, and for them to be

459
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: fair as well too. But hey, it is what it

460
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: is when you are when you're dealing with with it

461
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: live here. I also noticed there's a handful of players

462
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 2: that are still hanging out under one of the tents

463
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 2: down there. Yeah, it looks like maybe Cam and TJ

464
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: and Deshaun Elliott a couple of the Vets who are

465
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: like I think they're thinking, yeah, we'll be back. Let's

466
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: just hang out down here. We'll sip on some gatorade,

467
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 2: make sure we don't get wet. Deshaun Elliott's kind of

468
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 2: sticking his head out and peeking around right now. That's

469
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 2: the way as the as the rain wanes here a

470
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 2: little bit, but until we get some more information real.

471
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Speaker 4: Quick though, you did some Saint Vincent College homework about

472
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Speaker 4: construction over here though I did. Yes, so common that's good.

473
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: You're right, because that's the real journalist thing to do, right,

474
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 2: follow up on your story and bring it all full circle.

475
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: So the new facility done, Dunlap Family Center. That's that's

476
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: going here on campus, big new athletic facility that's gonna

477
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: have rec center you know and all those type of

478
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 2: things for students that will have a pool, the workout

479
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: areas track cool, which is great. I mean, you know

480
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: that that's a big selling point for colleges for freshmen,

481
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 2: like other than your dorms, Like the rec center is

482
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: another big selling point, you know, like hey, you could

483
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: work out here for free all this stuff.

484
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really cool.

485
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: Super quick I'm gonna get that in a second, but

486
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 3: real quick, five minutes or a couple of minute.

487
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Speaker 4: Story.

488
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Speaker 3: The same thing happened whenever I took the job as

489
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: football director of football opposite Achron ok. Because when we

490
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 3: took the job, we had to like put together recruiting

491
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 3: class now, you know, and I didn't know where anything

492
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: was at you know, I'm trying to It wasn't like

493
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 3: where I was at PIT for three years and I

494
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: could show you everything. And this is what we want

495
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: to see and this is our all of our facilities.

496
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah. It was like, you know, we're

497
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Speaker 3: all taking this job, Matt, you want to come with us.

498
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: It's a good upgrade and do you want to go?

499
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure.

500
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Speaker 3: And at the same time, Akron was building and Justin

501
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: might has probably frequented this place at that point, sort

502
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: of state of the art, very nice, similar to this

503
00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 3: Lazy River Sports facility at Akron, and that was a

504
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: huge selling point for us. We just kept taking recruits

505
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: through there. Oh we were here last week.

506
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Speaker 4: This wasn't even here. This is gonna be incredible. It's

507
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 4: going to be like campus in the fright right. And

508
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: we used it and that's you know, I don't get

509
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: back to all this stuff, but we do some time

510
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 4: to kill.

511
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Speaker 2: Can we do?

512
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Speaker 3: We would we would get some of the tour guides

513
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: from Akron to tour the parents and kids because we

514
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: weren't capable, and we'd go with them and we were like, oh,

515
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: I'd like to go here, you know, like we acted

516
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: like we were getting recruit so we kind of used

517
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Speaker 3: it as a double edged sword.

518
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Speaker 4: It's cool, but this was like it's gonna be nice.

519
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: It looks very nice. I mean it's you know, we

520
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: be brand news, state of the art, all that stuff.

521
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: It's also going to have an indoor practice football film

522
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: as part of it as well too. That's the good news.

523
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: The bad news is it won't be completed until November.

524
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Speaker 3: It be done the next hour or even maybe by

525
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 3: next week, right uh, And I know, I wonder though

526
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Speaker 3: with all this rain this.

527
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Speaker 4: Upcoming November, okay here for next yeah, next.

528
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Speaker 2: I think they were hoping to have it done for

529
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: the winter time for I mean the campus and the

530
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: students and everything, and the football team, the football team

531
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: and all the other sports here on campus that can

532
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: get in there, you know, during the winter and maybe

533
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: do some of the stuff that they need outside space

534
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: for now here on campus. So yeah, there will be

535
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Speaker 2: an answer a lifeline when this happens in training camp

536
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.

537
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Speaker 4: But for now, I assume a Steelers had some say

538
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 4: in that as well, or well.

539
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Speaker 2: Now that I learned that there's going to be an

540
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: indoor football facility there as well too, that that certainly

541
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: makes sense. And hey, there's listen, there are some obstacles

542
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: for Saint Vincent to host this so close to the

543
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: starting of a new campus year, Like they got to

544
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: get everything out of here, get those dorm rooms turned around,

545
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: they got freshman orientation, and you know, all kinds of kids.

546
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Speaker 2: Like there's a there's a lot I'm sure that is

547
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: an onus on Saint Vincent to flip this thing around

548
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: to get back to you know, Saint Vincent College and

549
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: their campus and ready for the you know, the couple

550
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: thousand students that will be invading this place in a

551
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

552
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Speaker 4: The Steelers borrow it, right and again they don't borrow.

553
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: It in June like they borrow it. They borrow it

554
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: like two weeks.

555
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 4: Before everyone was coming back to campus.

556
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: But there's also a lot of benefits of that. Obviously

557
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: dorm room benefits. They've done a lot of stuff to

558
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: the locker rooms and the facilities here and maybe this

559
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: is kind of the final piece of that.

560
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: It's also a ton of exposure too. I mean, there

561
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: might be young people that have never heard of this place.

562
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: It's not Penn State, you know, and oh that's place

563
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: Steiers go. Let's go for a tour, you know, right right?

564
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Sure, No, I say it all the time, like I

565
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: had never been to this campus until I started working

566
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: here in it It's awesome here, Like.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool campus.

568
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of cool places to walk, There's just

569
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Speaker 2: a lot of cool stuff around here. It's pretty so

570
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: it is. This is a This is a very cool spot,

571
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Speaker 2: and certainly I would say worth checking out if you

572
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: are someone in in high school who wants to stay

573
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Speaker 2: in the region for your for your collegiate journey. Matt

574
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: bad news. Maybe I don't know all those guys who

575
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: were hanging out in the tent that I told you about,

576
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: a lot of the veterans, look like Aaron Rodgers was

577
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: in there too, a couple other guys.

578
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Speaker 1: You know.

579
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: They're all heading back up to the uh the indoor now.

580
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that they got word that either this

581
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: is going to be longer or maybe they're doing stuff

582
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: inside today and not gonna be able to make it

583
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: back out here.

584
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine that we're not going to see

585
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: football from where worse it.

586
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: No thing again, I mean, best case scenario, it's going

587
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: to be one hundred yards away from us, you know,

588
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: over there on the fourth field. But as we kind

589
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: of wait to get more news and all of those things,

590
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: we are seeing the final players who were still hanging

591
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: out here are now heading back up the hill and

592
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: into the locker room in the facility.

593
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 4: And they're pretty important ones.

594
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Speaker 2: Pretty like I said, that was kind of the that's

595
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 2: pretty talent, that's the that's the hangout like tent. That like, hey,

596
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: you gotta get an invite to come sit under here.

597
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Speaker 3: Right right right right right, Yeah, the undrafted uh rookie

598
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 3: from Monmouth, you know lineman doesn't sit there with those guys, exactly.

599
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right. That's like Max. Max has told stories

600
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: before about how the Steelers veterans back in the day

601
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: they would have like a pavilion up on the hill

602
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: by the dorm right where they would hang out in

603
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Speaker 2: the play cards, you know all that stuff, and like

604
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: you had to get invited to go there, and it'd

605
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: be like if you showed up without an invite, it

606
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: would be like we don't care who you are, Like.

607
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 4: You're not the first round pick, the first round pick, whoever.

608
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: You're not invited. And so Max was like it was

609
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 2: his I think he said, second camp before he finally

610
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: got his, you know, his invite, and you know he

611
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: goes up there and it's it's all the you know

612
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: it's the Joe Porters of the world and Camplin and

613
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: you know, Alan Fanica and Ben Roethlisberger. You know, he

614
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: said it didn't take very long for Ben to get

615
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: an invite up there. He might have been the quickest

616
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: rookie to ever get an invite. But yeah, that's there

617
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 2: is Listen, there's They're all equal, but some are more

618
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: equal than others out here in these settings.

619
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Speaker 4: No, that's totally cool.

620
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: You know, these guys are big time stars, celebrities, leaders,

621
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Speaker 3: et cetera.

622
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: And you gotta kind of earn it.

623
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: You you absolutely do. And uh, like the Mike Tomlin

624
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: line is I'm gonna treat you all fairly. I'm just

625
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: not gonna treat you all equal totally.

626
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean, Jimmy Johnson is like one of the best examples.

627
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: And in recent when those great Cowboy teams, Yep, well,

628
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: Michael Irvin might be able to come to a meeting

629
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: late or sleep through it, but that fifty third guy can't.

630
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: You know.

631
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Speaker 2: Like I was laughing with the other day when, uh,

632
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: when I started traveling with the team and Motes was like,

633
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: the one thing is just be on time. He's like

634
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: I've only ever seen I think I told you the story,

635
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: but maybe not. He When I started travel with the team,

636
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: Mots was like, I've only they leave people behind. You're late,

637
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: they will leave, they will leave you behind. The only

638
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: time I've ever seen them hold up that plane was

639
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: for Ben Roethlisberger and Wes you ate number seven. That

640
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: was like, I told you, like the asking asking Wolf

641
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: and people like, give me some advice for my first train. Yeah,

642
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: that's like, that's what I did with Motes, Like before

643
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: I started traveling with the team, give me some advice.

644
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: What do I need to know about going on the

645
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: plane and all this? He was like, the only thing

646
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: you need to know is don't be late, because they

647
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: will only wait for you if Ben, if you're Ben

648
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger and Wes you hate number seven, which I completely understand.

649
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: I will be on time. In fact, I will be

650
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: there early and you won't have to worry about me. Uh,

651
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: let's do this, Matt, because I do want to get

652
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: into a fun topic, a fun kind of research thing

653
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: that you brought to my mind yesterday. But it's a

654
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Speaker 2: little bit garfier, so I want us to have some

655
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Speaker 2: more time to chew on it, sure and discuss it.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to break a couple.

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Speaker 4: Yep, we'll get some more news on people.

658
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Speaker 2: We'll get some more news on practice too, but we'll

659
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Speaker 2: do a little bit longer segment on that on the

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Speaker 2: other side. Break a few minutes here early now, and

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Speaker 2: we'll come back to close down the first hour of

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Speaker 2: the Drive, hopefully with some good news, if not for

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Speaker 2: some some interesting numbers and.

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Speaker 4: Stats, and we'll figure out something chet history.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that Matt has unearthed for me. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: Back in the Booth here with some unfortunate news if

678
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: you're just tuning in, which hey, I guess is possible.

679
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: Practice got going for about five minutes until there was

680
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: some weather in the area, I think, both some lightning

681
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: elements and very heavy rain as Matt and I were describing.

682
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: So there was some thought that maybe we'll be able

683
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Speaker 2: to return. Wait it out, let's see what happens. We

684
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: got the verdict finally, Matt. They are going to do

685
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: what they can in the indoor facilities here at Saint

686
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Vincent at two forty five, so there will be nothing

687
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: happening outdoor today. And again, I mean we trying to

688
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: paint the picture for you of the field conditions. It

689
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: is soaked it out there right now. No open practice

690
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: to the public two forty five here. Pretty soon they'll

691
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: get going inside. But that is closed means walk through.

692
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: It means it's a walk through.

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00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: And hey, selfishly it stinks for us because now we've

695
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: got to come up with some different stuff to talk

696
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: about it.

697
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: All those different things practice going on right in front, but.

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00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Hey, that's part of the job. But it's really unfortunate

699
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: I think for all I mean, people playing their entire

700
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: days entire trips, all those things around this. You come

701
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: out here, you wait for a couple hours in the line,

702
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: you get in here, you wait for a couple hours

703
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: for practice, just to see five minutes of it. I mean,

704
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: they understand, it's out of your control. It's mother nature.

705
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: There's anybody. But if you're if you're like getting back

706
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: in your car now and you've got us on and

707
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: you're heading home and you're bummed, like we feel for you,

708
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: it's stinks. We hope you can get back out here

709
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: at some point.

710
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully it had fun before practice or the kids. There's

711
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: there's a kids area.

712
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Over there and that picture right, Maybe some some merch

713
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: and stuff like.

714
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: Maybe get some of the vibe at least. I hope

715
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: you do come back. But also for folks that are planning,

716
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: check the weather too. You know, this is a possibility

717
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: any given day. And as you brought up many times

718
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: this last week or so, weather changed very fast in

719
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Speaker 3: the Cerea.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's crazy to me how fast, Like

721
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: some mornings this has already happened and we've only been

722
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: here for not even a week, five or six days. Yeah,

723
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, like mornings I'll wake up and you know,

724
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: rub your eyes and check your phone and check the

725
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: weather type thing. And there's already been a couple of

726
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: days where I check the weather and it's like rain

727
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: all afternoon and you're like, oh, no, no, and then

728
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: it's eighty seven degrees, sonny. And there's other days where

729
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: you look and you're like, oh, it looks like a

730
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: clear day, and then you get crushed with rain and

731
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: and and weather for two hours. So yeah, it happens

732
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: very quickly, but try and stay on top of it

733
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: if you're if you're coming out here, and again if

734
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: you're someone who's heading home now, we feel for you

735
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: and hope that uh, that you can get back out

736
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: here or no one's happy about that. Without a doubt.

737
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: I think this will also add up to Matt to

738
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: a crazy day here tomorrow on campus with okay, another

739
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: day of pads, first day of pads now and the

740
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show that's got a huge, huge, Did you

741
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: see the big stage set up here on the corner

742
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: on that You have to check it out when we're

743
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: on the way out. They got all there. They you know,

744
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: they brought the production crew in today to set up

745
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: the stage and everything. It's gonna be chaotic. Wow, it's

746
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: like right here, it's like right here behind it. So

747
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: I was originally this is again we got time stories people, yeah, right,

748
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: and type stuff. Yeah.

749
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: I wish we could conversation.

750
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: I wish that's exactly right. I wish we could be

751
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: getting to describing backs on backers and some things like

752
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: that for you. But originally I had planned to go

753
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: home tonight and then stay on Wednesday because I kind

754
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: of do like every other night type thing.

755
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: I've got two young kids, terrible.

756
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't like, yeah, you know, it's about seventy eighty

757
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: minutes each way, and I just don't like to leave

758
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: my wife hanging with with two young kids if she

759
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: works full time as well, to type thing. But I

760
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: told her, like last week, when I realized that Wednesday

761
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: was the McAfee day, I was like, there is no

762
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: way I'm trying to drive back out there Wednesday and

763
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: fighting those in traffic. I was like, I'm staying on

764
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: campus Tuesday night so that I'm here already Wednesday and

765
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with traffic or anything like that.

766
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: So if you are playing on if you are planning

767
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: on coming out tomorrow and you haven't heard. Pat McAfee

768
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: is doing his live show here from noon until two

769
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: on campus, leading right up into practice, which is you'll

770
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: have the Steelers crowd, You'll have the people wanted to

771
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: see padded practices crowd, the crowd that Pat McAfee and

772
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: his following brings. So yeah, plan accordingly.

773
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Speaker 3: And I wonder if there are some people that came

774
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: today didn't get what they want, so they're gonna come

775
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: back tomorrow or get a hotel or whatever. I don't know,

776
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: you know, but I am looking forward tomorrow, but I

777
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: look forward to today, so I'm not get my hopes

778
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: up too much. I assume it will be a I

779
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: thought were I thought you were. Where you're going with

780
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: this is a spirited practice all that too. I mean,

781
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: basically two days off and we're still day one for they.

782
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: Had a couple of practicality he had a couple of

783
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: practices cut short last week as well, right.

784
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: And I really thought things were heating up from an

785
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: emotional standpoint right before we broke too, you know, like again,

786
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: they weren't breaking rules about blocking and tackling and things

787
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: like that, but it was spirited to say the least.

788
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: And I enjoyed that.

789
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume. I would imagine that there will

790
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: be a message from Mike tom and that it's like, hey,

791
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: you might enjoy this today, right, but get ready for tomorrow.

792
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna make up for it tomorrow.

793
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: You better bring that lunch pale and be ready to

794
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: go tomorrow type thing. Yeah, which is, yeah, very good

795
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: point by you.

796
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: So maybe they even script practice differently because they didn't

797
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: get as much in today, you know.

798
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I would think so one hundred percent. Yeah, and

799
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: again especially when you consider they already had two practices

800
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: not like this, but they already lost maybe thirty minutes

801
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: of work last Yeah, you know, some ten, ten to

802
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes on two days there where practice had to

803
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: end a little bit early. Uh So, Matt, let's get

804
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: into some of this stuff now. We have got plenty

805
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: to get to. If you guys want to tweet us,

806
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: we'll take some tweets throughout the show maybe as well too.

807
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: Here now, Yeah, this is actually be a really good

808
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: day of that little Twitter Tuesday. If you want at

809
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Williamson NFL for Matt, at Wesley Yuler for me, We'll

810
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: get to some of that as we roll along or

811
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: along we'll do some around the league stuff as we

812
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: always do. But I told everybody at the start of

813
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: the show, how Matt sent me a couple of different

814
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: things to peruse on my off day, some homework assignments,

815
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: and I mean, we could go all this and still not.

816
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: I want to tell I'm want to give credit where

817
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: it's due to the people that did do these homeworks

818
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: or do these these documents too. It's two of my

819
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: favorite things that come out over the course of the year.

820
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: And it used to be the one that you're referencing

821
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: right now I'm just looking over your laptop was Football

822
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Outsiders dot Com forever. Aaron Shots is considered the godfather

823
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: of football analytics is one of his nicknames.

824
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: And he's been doing this I think into the eighties.

825
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: I mean maybe maybe not quite that far back, but

826
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: way before most people knew what was going on and

827
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: popular right, and I would order his book and it

828
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: would come to the door and I would, you know,

829
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: scan that thing like crazy. Well, they were bought out

830
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: or moved over to a site called FTN Fantasy, So

831
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: if you want all this stuff, you can go to

832
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: FTN Fantasy and you can, and trust me, they're not

833
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: paying me to tell you. I just don't want to

834
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: steal all their information not cite it. But it's exact

835
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: same publication. It's like the Football Outsiders your book basically

836
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: previewing every team, all kinds of good stuff in there.

837
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: And Warren Sharp's another guy that it's heavy, heavy into

838
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: analytics that I sent you just a Steeler chapter.

839
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: From as well.

840
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 3: And his book's remarkable to I don't know, I yeah

841
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Sharp Football Analysis or and just look at Warren Sharp.

842
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: You'll find it no matter what. But his books.

843
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: Neither one of these things are super expensive either. But

844
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: if you really want a nerd out there are you

845
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: can go buy as deep as you want.

846
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is and again, like I was looking through

847
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff, and there's a lot of

848
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: stuff on the surface that makes sense to anybody who

849
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: right who follows football, and there's a lot of nerd.

850
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: Out Yeah, I really peel through even just the stuff

851
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: they missed. I mean, there's like databases in there and

852
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: why is it this way?

853
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: And so it's a very a lot of EPA and DVA,

854
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of fancy analytics. If you

855
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: want to get into them. But where I wanted to

856
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: start with you, Matt, and because this this was you know,

857
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: in perusing this yesterday.

858
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: It's a little startling, where some of it's a.

859
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Little startling, but this is like a something that I

860
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: think if you're a casual Steelers fan or a die

861
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: hard Steelers fan or anywhere in between, you could sink

862
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: your teeth into this.

863
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: Sure.

864
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: And it is teams that have lost their top passer,

865
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: their top rusher, and their top receiver in the same offseason.

866
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: And reminder, just wow, yeah, Russell Wilson no longer here,

867
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: Harris no longer here, George Pickens no longer here. And

868
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: this dates back all the way to nineteen seventy eight,

869
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: and there have only been a handful of tea that

870
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: it's happened to, and there's only been one that had

871
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: a winning record the the next year, and that was,

872
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: as you pointed out to me, the two thousand and

873
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: six New Orleans Saints who added this guy named Drew Brees.

874
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of rhyme and reason in there.

875
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: Who had the shoulder injury and that's why the Chargers

876
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: drafted Rivers And everyone knows the Drew Brees history but

877
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: they it was between the Dolphins and Saints of who

878
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: he was going to sign with, but he had injury

879
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: stuff Miami. I think vetoed him medically, Saints grabbed him

880
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 3: and goes on to have a Hall of Fame career.

881
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: So it usually doesn't go that well, No, that's the

882
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: exception of the rule. That is the exception to the rule, right,

883
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: as they might say. But it's a little starting. I mean,

884
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 4: I bet some people listening were like, oh, the Steelers

885
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: did lose their leading pass or receiver. The first I thought,

886
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: I was looking over this like, ooh, okay, And how

887
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: often does that happen? Not much?

888
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Only fourteen times since nineteen seventy eight.

889
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy.

890
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: That's insane, since nineteen seventy eight, the last ten years,

891
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: in the twenty years right now.

892
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean your leading passer comes back and as

893
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 3: your leading passer again.

894
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: But he's not on the team, you know. I mean,

895
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 4: Wilson will not throw a pass for the Steelers.

896
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Correct, do You won't have a rushing attempt, and rash

897
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: pickens won't have a exception, right. But there's also some

898
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: nuance with this as well too.

899
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: There are so again, first off, any time you've talked

900
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: started talking analytics and some of this real advanced stuff. Football,

901
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: much more than the other three sports, is always gonna

902
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: be small sample size, you know. So you mentioned what

903
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: thirteen teams have done this and only one have a

904
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: winning record the next year. Now that doesn't mean the

905
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: Steelers chance of having a winning record is only seven

906
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: percent or whatever.

907
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: You know. So one thing that's.

908
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: Really encouraging is in terms of how good the team

909
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: was the year before that they.

910
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: Made these changes in the offseason.

911
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: This version of the Steelers is like the most successful

912
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: one that's done it, you know, Like, so they started

913
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: at a higher point, you know what I mean, and

914
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: we can and of course we have broken all down.

915
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: They each were by choice. It wasn't like your Hall

916
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: of Fame quarterback retired or held out or you know

917
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: something like that, or got hurt or something like that,

918
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: or you know, running back get traded or whatever. So

919
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: I think they think and I tend to agree that

920
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: they did upgrade at each three spots. But clearly there's

921
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: a continuity issue. I mean, the three of them have

922
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 3: not played together. The people touching the ball the most

923
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: haven't for this organization or done it together, so it

924
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: has to add some mystery to it all. Without question,

925
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers would prefer to go into this

926
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: year with Rogers than Wilson. I think they would prefer

927
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: to go with Metcalf than Pickens. Yes, running backs not

928
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 3: as clear to me, but I'm certain that even maybe

929
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: this time last year, they knew nause She was leaving.

930
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: You know that we would rather allow him to leave,

931
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: get a comp pick in return, and roll the dice

932
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: with Jalen and whatever else we get, you know where.

933
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: And these the other two instances they chose player one

934
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: over player two basically you know what I mean, We're

935
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: running back was when the choice was made to move

936
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: on from Harris, you didn't know who the lead back

937
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: was going to be, and that's still up in the

938
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: air a little bit sure, but considering the age at

939
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: that position too, and to wear and tear, I would

940
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 3: rather I still think they made the right choice. I'd

941
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: rather go with Johnson and Warren than Nausey lost some

942
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: money and Warren agreed, Yeah, no, I'm.

943
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: With you on that.

944
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: And I think another very important grain of salt is

945
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: that of these, I just lost the numb Did I

946
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: say thirteen was that.

947
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think thirteen was yet.

948
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: Thirteen, right, yeah, one, two, three, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

949
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: Of those thirteen teams that you know, again, as we mentioned,

950
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: only one had a winning record the following season, New Orleans.

951
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: There was also only one that had a winning record

952
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: going into that exact year as well too. So like,

953
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: for example, the most couple of recent teams that have

954
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: done it here in twenty twenty three, Carolina did it. Okay, Okay,

955
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: they were seven and ten the year before and then

956
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: went to two and five. So seven and ten isn't

957
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: a disaster, right they were seven and ten Detroit and

958
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one they were five and eleven when they

959
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: did it.

960
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.

961
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: The New Orleans team before Drew Brees was three and thirteen,

962
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: yeah when they did it.

963
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: So we have a bunch of bad football players. We

964
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: need to change things, but we're still bad.

965
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: A lot of it is like these teams are turning

966
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: over their quarterback and their running back and their wide

967
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: receiver because they stunk because.

968
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: They stopped and oh, by the way, they might not

969
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: have year it might they might also not have had

970
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: good defenses or road lines or head coaches too, you

971
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like.

972
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: They could have been having head coach and GM changes

973
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: at the same time. Things like that, right right, right,

974
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: like a lot of if you're if you're changing those

975
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: three positions, typically it's probably a big overhaul off season.

976
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so side note, you know, I'm starting to

977
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: look nerd Alerd. I'm starting to look ahead of the

978
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: Jets because they're Week one too, and this isn't as

979
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: common because there are wholesale changes in organizations when things

980
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: don't go well.

981
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: All I feel like you've got like the shortest amount

982
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: of times.

983
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, so you might think, well, week one opponent

984
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: against the Steelers has a nice advantage because new people

985
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: are touching.

986
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: The ball for the Black and Gold. And there are

987
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: probably some truth to that, you know, I think you

988
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: want to play teams that have a lot of change

989
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: early in the season before they quote.

990
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: Steelers got the Falcons last year, right, head coach coming off.

991
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so there is something to be said about where

992
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: teams land on your schedule. But the Jets have a

993
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: new GM, have a new head coach, have a new

994
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, have a new defense coordinator, and a new quarterback.

995
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot.

996
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still Garrett Wilson, who probably led the league

997
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: in receptions, and they still retall but so they have

998
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: their share changes too.

999
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's good timing for the Steelers, I think

1000
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: with their with their opponent, their their season opener, kind

1001
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: of like Atlanta as well. So yeah, that that to

1002
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: me is an interesting thing to keep an eye on

1003
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: because that substantial change. How does that maybe take some

1004
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: time to come together. But again, with the backdrop of

1005
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: most of these teams, it's been bad the year before,

1006
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: and then maybe they get a little bit worse because

1007
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: they're kind of really hitting rock bottom and rebuilding as

1008
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: opposed to the Steelers who won ten games and were

1009
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year.

1010
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty clear that when

1011
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: last year ended and the folks that make all the

1012
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: decisions in this organization got together, they said, we have

1013
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 3: to have better slash different people touching the football.

1014
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean it's that simple.

1015
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: Right Again, A lot of times you don't need them

1016
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: to say it to you in later right, right, right,

1017
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: you could just the proof in.

1018
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: The poon bar was sitting here yesterday. If we're like,

1019
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: how'd that meeting go? Do you need different people touching

1020
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: the football because you like the old ones? He wouldn't

1021
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: say yes, But your actions are a little different than that.

1022
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: You know, you should speak loud. There are actions have

1023
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: spoken in that regard, for sure.

1024
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: The dude throwing it, the dude catching it, and the

1025
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: dude running it are all different. Yes, yeah, that's not

1026
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: an accident.

1027
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: No it is. They did not back into that.

1028
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: And again sometimes it's like because you couldn't resign your

1029
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: wide receiver. He's too expensive, you know, Javon Hargrave leaves

1030
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: and free agency. I'd love to keep him, but you can't.

1031
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: You know that's not the case. These are choices.

1032
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: They sure they sure were. They sure were. If you're

1033
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: just joining us, if you hopped in late practice today

1034
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: due to weather, moved doors and close to the public,

1035
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: so unfortunately, uh, you're those of you jones in for

1036
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: Matt and I to do a little play by play

1037
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: on some backs on backers and different fun drills like that.

1038
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to wait until tomorrow for that. As

1039
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: today moved indoors and campus now very quiet and very soggy.

1040
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 4: As Matt and I height roll along here, pretty much gone.

1041
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: The rain is stop that you could still see the puddling,

1042
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: You can still see a lot of the water, but

1043
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: it'll be a quiet campus. It'll be a less moving

1044
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: and shaken in front of us type show. So we'll

1045
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: get to some of your tweets in the next two hours.

1046
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: As we mentioned, as we roll along here, Matt and

1047
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: I are with you until five o'clock. It's all part

1048
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: of our training camp coverage ongoing on Steelers Nation Radio

1049
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio NETW