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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Helth.

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Speaker 2: Hello again, everybody, We're coming to you live from Gillette

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Speaker 2: Stadium in Foxboro, Massachusetts, as the Buffalo Bills take on

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Speaker 2: the home standing New England Patriots in Buffalo's third AFC

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Speaker 2: East matchup of the season. Here in week seven.

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Speaker 3: Back to pass has time buyers to the right side

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Speaker 3: and it's picked off, intercepted right near the forty eight

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Speaker 3: yard line. Jabrill Peppers on the pick peeled off his

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Speaker 3: coverage of Simon Eric and it's an int.

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Speaker 2: Going the other way. Elliott gets the hand off.

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Speaker 3: You gonna try to power his way in second effort

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Speaker 3: and he's in for the touchdown. Ezekiel Elliott with a

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Speaker 3: two yard touchdown run and it's suddenly a nine point

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Speaker 3: lead for New England with an extra point pending.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap. Looking to his left, has Cook out

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Speaker 2: of the backfield.

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Speaker 4: And reaches for the pylon.

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Speaker 2: It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: The Cook has found the kitchen and the recipe on

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Speaker 3: that touchdown spicy, an eight yard touchdown catch and run

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Speaker 3: by James Cook. Back to pass, looking out to the

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Speaker 3: left flat has Born who tiptoes into the end zone

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Speaker 3: for a touchdown. It is a four yard touchdown reception

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Speaker 3: by Kendrick Bournelit's coming. Alan fires it complete to Diggs

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Speaker 3: at the six, hops to his feet, still loose, racing

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Speaker 3: it to the end.

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Speaker 2: Zoe touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo a twenty five yard touchdown, catch and run.

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Speaker 2: Can you dig it?

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Speaker 3: Jones fires on the right side, complete to Bourne, but

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Speaker 3: he's tackling.

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Speaker 4: Fuffled the football.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Poyer stripped it out.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo ball.

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Speaker 3: The recovery to Terrell Vernard, touchdown, Buffalo. Josh Allen powers

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Speaker 3: in from six inches out back to pass looking for Kasiki.

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Speaker 3: He beats Tarren Johnson for the touchdown with twelve seconds remaining.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo falls in New England twenty nine, twenty five in

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Speaker 3: a disastrous game here at Gillette Stadium.

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Speaker 2: All right, people, that's your Toshiba game. Rewind Toshiba, the

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Speaker 2: official copy or company of the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was gut wrenching. Yesterday twenty nine, twenty five. Bills fall

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Speaker 2: to the one and five Patriots, who improved to two

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Speaker 2: and five with the victory. The Bills are now one

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Speaker 2: and two in the Division, one in three in the Conference,

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Speaker 2: and four and three on the season. Certainly a performance

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Speaker 2: that mimicked some others that did not go the right

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Speaker 2: way for the Bills. The offense again sleepwalking through the

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Speaker 2: first half. They did turn it on in the second half,

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Speaker 2: and there are some encouraging things to pull out of

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Speaker 2: the performance in the second half, which we'll get to

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Speaker 2: in a little while. But Steve, for me, this was

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Speaker 2: a three phase effort that fell short because because you

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Speaker 2: had special teams not playing up to the standard again yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That's not the first time it's happened, with block punts

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Speaker 2: and other things that have happened in previous weeks, long

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Speaker 2: returns allowed. All of that reared its head in this game.

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Speaker 2: On the special team side of the ledger, the offense

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Speaker 2: woke up late. Yes, they put twenty five points up,

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Speaker 2: but you can't play one half of football on offense

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Speaker 2: and expect positive results no matter who you're playing. And

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Speaker 2: then the defense was probably the most disappointing of all

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Speaker 2: three phases. They made New England look like a playoff

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Speaker 2: contender yesterday. On the offensive side of.

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Speaker 4: The ball, yeah, given up twenty nine points to that

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Speaker 4: offense is certainly something that nobody saw coming, Absolutely nobody,

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Speaker 4: and given the Bills defense a chance to win the

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Speaker 4: tyson the game with minute fifty three left Patriots with

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Speaker 4: one maybe two timeouts left at the beginning of that

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Speaker 4: drive and not being able to shut the door on

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Speaker 4: them giving up a to play right out of the gate. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's absolutely the opposite of what we've seen in that defense.

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Speaker 4: You can say, well, and we'll talk a lot, I'm

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Speaker 4: sure people, and you know, we've been watching Twitter and

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Speaker 4: social media and fan posts since yesterday and a lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff about the offense, of course, but that's an

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Speaker 4: aberration on the defensive performance yesterday. Giving up twenty nine

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Speaker 4: points to that offense. That was that was surprising to me,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen. The offense coming right out of the gate

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Speaker 4: and throwing the football to the other team. Man, that's

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Speaker 4: a that's an absolute horrific way to start the game

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Speaker 4: as well. So it took them a while to recover

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Speaker 4: from that, you know, and you're right during the middle

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Speaker 4: of the during the middle of the game, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, you get there.

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Speaker 4: The Bills had a chance. Looked like you know, they

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Speaker 4: came out and they had four possessions one, three possessions

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Speaker 4: both all three with double digit plays in the drive.

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Speaker 4: The one possession they had that was one play was

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Speaker 4: a kneel down at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 4: Then that that, but before that they had a twelve

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Speaker 4: then a thirteen play drive. They moved the ball, they

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Speaker 4: got a missed field goal and what one touchdown and

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Speaker 4: they turned it over on downs. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 4: not acceptable. You got to you got to get into

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Speaker 2: They moved the ball, but they were either shooting themselves

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Speaker 2: in the foot with penalties, turning the ball over or

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Speaker 2: not executing miss field goal being the most Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: there's all just of them.

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Speaker 4: There's all kinds of details to like, you know, the

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Speaker 4: guy down a field on uh, illegal man down the

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Speaker 4: field on that where they picked the flag called.

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Speaker 2: The penalty forward pass.

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Speaker 4: That's a forward pass and some bad flag.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad pass.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a bad bad call by the official,

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Speaker 4: bad pickup by the official. Uh, the guy was four

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Speaker 4: yards down the field. So yeah, they missed it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it got to overcome that. I mean, that's yes, and

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Speaker 4: that's that's an elite. It was a rough weekend for

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Speaker 4: the officials around the National Football If you think it's

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Speaker 4: Miami game.

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Speaker 2: They had some bad calls on the Patriots too. That's

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Speaker 2: roughing the passer call borderline at best.

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Speaker 4: Josh asked for it, they gave it to him. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Sharon Johnson got called for illegal contact. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it goes around.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, all three phases the long kick return the

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Speaker 4: Bills gave the punt return that they gave up. You

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Speaker 4: can't take a swipe at a guy on punt coverage

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Speaker 4: when you're when he catches the ball and you're four

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Speaker 4: or five yards away.

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Speaker 2: It's the easiest thing in the world to do.

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Speaker 4: Is middle school kids make you miss when you're that

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Speaker 4: far away and you sell out like that. You can't

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Speaker 4: let the first guy down the field has got to

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Speaker 4: make that return or deal with him. Swooshing by him

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Speaker 4: is not the way to listen. I've done it a time.

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Speaker 4: I've done it myself too many times, swash slashing by

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Speaker 4: other direction. You can't do that. I'm you know, it's

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Speaker 4: a miss. It's a common mistake. You got to get over.

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Speaker 4: You can't let it happen, and that's what leads led

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Speaker 4: to the big play in my opinion, So all three

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Speaker 4: give them give them field a position right.

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Speaker 2: Away, thirty four yard play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really really poor performance in all

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Speaker 4: three phases for the Bills. And and and yeah, coaching

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Speaker 4: staff deserves their share of responsibilities. Ultimately, they're responsible for

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Speaker 4: how these guys play. Ultimately, you can pin this on

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Speaker 4: a couple of players, some players making having bad days

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Speaker 2: Plays, showing up in critical spots.

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Speaker 4: And then you can also you know, say hey, we

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Speaker 4: it is a total, uh, a total wash in New

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Speaker 2: We're looking for your takeaways from the Bills twenty nine

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Speaker 2: twenty five loss to the Patriots in Foxborough eight oh

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Speaker 2: and see the phones are ringing already, but take a

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Speaker 2: shot to chime in here, and we're happy to take

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Speaker 2: your phone calls again. Eight oh three oh five to

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Speaker 2: looking for your biggest takeaways from the loss yesterday, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and say this the thing that stood

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Speaker 2: out to me because the two teams go to the

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Speaker 2: it's thirteen to three, and I'm looking at the first

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Speaker 2: half stats and I'm saying, what what's missing here? So

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Speaker 2: at halftime, the Bills and Patriots on offense ran the

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Speaker 2: exact same number of plays, twenty eight plays each. Bills

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Speaker 2: gained one hundred and twenty two yards, Patriots gained one

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six. So you got about a fifty

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Speaker 2: yard difference there, Okay. Bills two of six on third down,

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Speaker 2: Patriots two of six on third down. One turnover for Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: which the Patriots turned into seven points, their first points

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Speaker 2: off turnovers the entire season, by the way, Patriots with

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Speaker 2: zero turnovers, Bill's over two in the red zone. Patriots

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Speaker 2: won for three in the red zone. Bills also had

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Speaker 2: a missed field goal. Here's where it stood out to me, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Average drive starts for Buffalo their own eighteen yard line,

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Speaker 2: At the half, the Bills had four plays of ten

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Speaker 2: ten and a half in a relatively even game, chiefly

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Speaker 2: because of one field position, two lack of execution, missfield goal,

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Speaker 2: down ten. So you've put yourself in a hole and

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Speaker 2: now you're playing the catchup game. And to the Bills credit,

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Speaker 2: they came back and took the lead. But again the

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Speaker 2: was thirty first in the league, thirty first in the

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Speaker 2: league in plays of ten yards or more, and thirty

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Speaker 2: first in the league in plays of twenty yards or

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Speaker 2: more in the first six games, Steve, the Patriots offense

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Speaker 2: had ten plays of twenty yards or more in their

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Speaker 2: first six games, a total of ten. Yesterday, they had

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Speaker 2: which was one more than the Bills had. How that

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Speaker 2: happens blows my mind. An anemic offense that we had,

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Speaker 2: Every every analyst in the loop, Dan Orlowski, Greg Kosel

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Speaker 2: What did they both say? This Patriots offense is a

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Speaker 2: tough watch. They don't even like watching it on film.

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Speaker 2: And they come out and rip off five plays of

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Speaker 2: twenty yards or more. They had fifteen to or sorry,

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Speaker 2: they had what's my total? Fourteen plays off ten yards

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Speaker 2: or more. Five of those are twenty plays twenty yards

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Speaker 2: or more for the Patriots. You have the Patriots, we're

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Speaker 2: big plays in the Bills. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots offense comes out, Their offensive line got healthy,

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Speaker 4: Cole Strange was back on the field, so they got

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Speaker 4: a little better up front. The Bills got a little

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Speaker 4: worse with the injuries. But that, you know, that doesn't

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Speaker 4: for the year to twenty nine points. They that in

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three five

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Speaker 5: You know, guys, this is from what I gotta say.

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Speaker 5: They broke my heart yesterday. I had all the conference

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Speaker 5: Maybe my opinion is this, Maybe we should go nuddle

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Speaker 5: You should go to kagun and try to do that

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Speaker 4: All right, Jack, thanks you for the call. And it

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Speaker 4: to overreact. You know, you got to fire the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: You've given up on the season.

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Speaker 4: You've given up on this. Essentially, you're not gonna you

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Speaker 4: You can say what you want in the off season.

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Speaker 4: They've played poorly in the three losses. The three losses

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Speaker 4: they're sick and they need something to help them get it.

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Speaker 4: But it's gonna be the people in the building today

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Speaker 2: They've got to fix it.

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Speaker 4: They got to figure it out and get something going

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Speaker 4: and maybe change of paces. True. We mentioned that on

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Speaker 4: solutions like, hey, you know, go no huddle, start to

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Speaker 4: Let Josh be Josh, let Josh cook do all of

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Speaker 4: no question something needs to be adjusted for them to

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Speaker 2: And it's hard not to think the way Jack thinks

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Speaker 2: granted the Patriots are up two scores, they're probably playing

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Speaker 2: of it. They're playing the clock a little, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: is when they looked most in a rhythm. Yeah, on offense,

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Speaker 2: So I don't blame you feeling that way, Jack, I'm

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Speaker 4: It does come across to we've been talking about the

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Speaker 2: You're not looking real good offensively.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're sputtering and you're getting you're getting kicked

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Speaker 4: I mean they were in every other series they had

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Speaker 2: Five plays was fourth and two and a half.

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Speaker 4: A five play drive for touchdown sixty yards, and then

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's been a roller.

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Speaker 4: can't they don't, you know, they don't, they can't stay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just not finishing, just not finishing drives. Let's

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how you doing?

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Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my cart? Sure, okay, I want to

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Speaker 7: he's dropping back into coverage and it's creating some havoc

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Speaker 2: I would say that opposing defenses, based on the first

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that defensive coordinators are

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Speaker 2: let's use that extra man in coverage now, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: make it harder in the passing game. That's been a

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Speaker 4: In situational football, you get down on the red zone

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Speaker 4: They may sneak it with him once yea, like you

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Speaker 4: know the tush push that kind of thing. They do

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Speaker 4: that may change things for the defense in certain situations

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Speaker 2: Even beyond the designed run plays. It is very clear

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Speaker 2: There was a third and eight yesterday who could have

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Speaker 2: Years passed. Josh is just running for the first down

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's an easy balance. It's not. You

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Speaker 2: much are you taking away from the potency of your offense?

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Speaker 2: That's the question, And we don't have enough sample size

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Speaker 4: It's not just about what it takes away from your offense,

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Speaker 4: never know what other defenses think about, you know, Josh

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Speaker 4: there is something in there.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't listen. I don't think the Bills need it

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Speaker 2: But it's one less thing for one less.

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Speaker 4: Worry about thing for defenses to worry about, and in

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Speaker 4: certain situations, the fact it's nice to have that on

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Speaker 2: To Brian in Alabama next, let me pull him up here.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, what do you got first?

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Speaker 6: Fella's how you guys going?

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Speaker 2: You're all right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So my thing is, I know it's kind of

440
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Speaker 6: easy to lay it on the defense today, give him

441
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Speaker 6: a twenty nine points, But to me, the defense has

442
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Speaker 6: a little bit of pass because with the with the

443
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Speaker 6: with the injuries that they have on that side of

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Speaker 6: the ball. I mean, you would kind of expect for

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Speaker 6: them to have that type of game with so many

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Speaker 6: players down, and then for me it goes back. It

447
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Speaker 6: just goes back to the offense. I mean, I mean,

448
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Speaker 6: we're going to be beating the dead horse here, but

449
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 6: it seemed like this offense has been sputtering ever since

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Speaker 6: last year. And I know it changes from year to year,

451
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Speaker 6: but this has been a constant struggle. It seems like

452
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Speaker 6: for this offense to finding and groove without without implementing

453
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Speaker 6: gigs or without Josh Allen running. So it either has

454
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Speaker 6: to be three things. It's either the coaching putting the

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Speaker 6: players in the right spots or evaluating the players that

456
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Speaker 6: they did bring in. I'm surprised that Sherfield hasn't hasn't

457
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Speaker 6: had any more looks, or Jakiir has some catches yesterday,

458
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Speaker 6: or or if Josh is just missed reading the field

459
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Speaker 6: and not not hitting the open receivers. So it has

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Speaker 6: to be some type of internal disconnect that obviously, you know,

461
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Speaker 6: the average fan let myself won't know, you know, the

462
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Speaker 6: hin the workings, but there's something missing internally and and

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Speaker 6: hopefully they'll get a resolve. But right now they're playing

464
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Speaker 6: like a like like a middle of a pack team,

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Speaker 6: so hopefully they can get a turned around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, And the frustrating part about I think

467
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Speaker 4: for most Bills fans is we've seen it. I mean

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Speaker 4: weeks two, three, and four, or grantedst against the Raiders

469
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Speaker 4: the Commanders, but the Dolphins were in there as well.

470
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Speaker 4: This team was humming, and all of a sudden, it's not.

471
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Speaker 4: And that's the frustrating part about it. You get these

472
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Speaker 4: expectations of how they're going to be playing, and of

473
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Speaker 4: course you know the opponent. The different opponents have something

474
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Speaker 4: to say about that. But you get these expectations built

475
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Speaker 4: up and it's like, and what happened here? It looks

476
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Speaker 4: like a completely different team once in a while. That's

477
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Speaker 4: the frustrating part about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, Okay, I think Bryan's point about

479
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Speaker 2: Trent Sherfield is a good one. This was a guy

480
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Speaker 2: who was good enough to be the number three option

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Speaker 2: in the Miami Dolphins passing offense. Just think about that

482
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Speaker 2: for a second. This guy was your next best option

483
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Speaker 2: in the passing game after Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. Okay,

484
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Speaker 2: better than Cedric Wilson, who's still on that roster right now. Okay,

485
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Speaker 2: and better than Mike Gisiki, the tight end they had

486
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Speaker 2: last year at the time. Okay, he comes here, he

487
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Speaker 2: has a great spring, a really good training camp, and

488
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Speaker 2: you're telling me, with the struggles that this offense has

489
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Speaker 2: had the last three weeks, he's not a potential answer

490
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Speaker 2: to solve some of those problems. I think you at

491
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Speaker 2: least should explore that. Am I Am I out of line? No,

492
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Speaker 2: you should at least explore that.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, don't just and I don't want

494
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Speaker 4: to get too far down this rabbit hole of what's

495
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Speaker 4: going on. They're not not using him because they think

496
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Speaker 4: he can help, you know what I mean, right, but.

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Speaker 2: You should devise a way to maybe at least explore

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Speaker 2: package of plays. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Here's a problem too, and you know, we get into

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Speaker 4: this individual thing about who's playing well and who's not.

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Speaker 4: And that's one thing. You go down the targets and

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Speaker 4: this is amazing to me. Now Diggs, now he had

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Speaker 4: a couple where Josh had he had no chance to catch.

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Speaker 4: He's twelve targets for six receptions. And we talked about this. Yeah,

505
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Speaker 4: you got guys on the roster. King Kid had eight targets.

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Speaker 4: He caught all eight of them. Everything Cook, James Cook,

507
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Speaker 4: three targets he caught all three of them. Khalis Shakir

508
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: four targets, he caught all four of them. Latavius Murray

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Speaker 4: two targets, he caught both of them. And then you

510
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Speaker 4: get and then heart Deonte Hardy had one chance, he

511
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: caught it. Sherfield one chance he caught it. And that

512
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Speaker 4: was a hard catch because the two guys that struggled

513
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Speaker 4: and the ones that the Knox had. The fourth Knox

514
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Speaker 4: had the fourth down catch he dropped and got knocked out.

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Speaker 4: Three targets he had one, only caught one of them

516
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Speaker 4: and gave Davis, you're number two wide out five targets.

517
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Speaker 4: He only caught one of those targets. Those that's where

518
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Speaker 4: it's like, wait a minute here. You know you got

519
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Speaker 4: two guys that are responsible for most of well Diggs,

520
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Speaker 4: you're not got to take him off off.

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Speaker 2: The tall lists. And to your point, the deep shot

522
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Speaker 2: Diggs is overthrown. He was over the Bill's sideline. It's

523
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Speaker 2: wide to the target, like not even getting hand on

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Speaker 2: the ball. Those count as targets.

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Speaker 4: So you think about and Josh completed sixty three percent

526
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Speaker 4: of his passes, which you know is like a disappointment

527
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Speaker 4: because he's leading the league in completion percentage.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because.

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Speaker 4: There were people when he came in who has said

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Speaker 4: he'll never complete even sixty percent of his passes, right right,

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Speaker 4: So that's that's a pipe dream now. I mean, for

532
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Speaker 4: those people who are critics, the guys should be completing

533
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Speaker 4: seventy percent of his balls and you get who he's

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Speaker 4: thrown to. And some of these Kinkaid caught everything to

535
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Speaker 4: thrown to him yesterday and you see these guys with

536
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Speaker 4: drops and you see him getting the ball knocked out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think and I wouldn't say Knox

538
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Speaker 4: played bad. And the problem with Gabe is that sometimes

539
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Speaker 4: he only had five targets yesterday. He's your number two receiver.

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Speaker 4: He should have had more.

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Speaker 2: But should he if he's only catching one out of five.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the thing. He's got to catch it. But

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Speaker 4: I think they're spreading the football out nicely. To me,

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Speaker 4: you've got a lot of guys involved in the offense,

545
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Speaker 4: but you'd like to see guys who you got to.

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Speaker 4: And I think Shakir may be on the verge of

547
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Speaker 4: that four. We haven't seen him have four targets in

548
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Speaker 4: a long time. I have caught all four of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, I'm not a coach. I

550
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: don't even know what I'm saying. I'm not a coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to draw up offense. I don't

552
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Speaker 2: know how to draw up scheme. But what my eyeballs

553
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: are telling me is going forward. Going What my eyeballs

554
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: are telling me is going forward. Your top three weapons

555
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: in your passing game should be digs, Kincaid and Cook.

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Speaker 2: Cook should get five to seven targets a game in

557
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: the passing game. He is a dynamic weapon and should

558
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: be used every single week. Dalton Kinkaid, we finally saw

559
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: what you should see out of him every single week

560
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: and digs his digs. Those are your top three weapons.

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Speaker 2: If you can find others to play supporting roles like

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Speaker 2: Shakir nice supporting role. Yes great, let's let's keep that

563
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Speaker 2: in the hopper and use it when we need to.

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Speaker 2: I think Surefield should be part of that equation too

565
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Speaker 2: going forward. Based on what he did last year in

566
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Speaker 2: Miami and what he did this spring and in training camp,

567
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Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be the number three

568
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Speaker 2: weapon in the offense. That hasn't materialized, but with the

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Speaker 2: way things are going right now, you have to look

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Speaker 2: for other answers. I think he's one worth exploring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we said it last week and have said it

572
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Speaker 4: in a week leading up to this. You got to

573
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Speaker 4: get more guys involved, and they did yesterday. And they

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Speaker 4: did and it was good, and it was good. Keep going,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got to keep throwing the football. I

576
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Speaker 4: think I'm kind of with a lot of the people.

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Speaker 4: I'm always thinking the pace really helps them. I know

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Speaker 4: it's a double edged swords. When you go faster offensively,

579
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Speaker 4: you're off the field faster and you're shorthanded on and

580
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: you're shorthanded defensively. You don't really want to hang a

581
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Speaker 4: roster defensive roster out when you've got you know, Vaughn

582
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Speaker 4: took six snaps yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about to talk about.

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Speaker 4: I think I think Vaughan tweaked something yesterday. I don't

585
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Speaker 4: think it's his need, the need that he's recovering from.

586
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: Was something else. Maybe I don't know, But he got

587
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: six snaps, did not play at all in the second half.

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Speaker 2: I saw him come out of the locker room at halftime.

589
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: He was the last person out and he did not

590
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Speaker 2: have his helmet. He had a ball cap on right,

591
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: so I was like, oh, he might be done for

592
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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 4: All that goes into the hopper as well. So maybe

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Speaker 4: they were kind of playing a little bit more conservative

595
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: offensively because they didn't want to go no huddle because

596
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Speaker 4: if they're off the field, the defense all of a

597
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: sudden's got nobody left and they're all gassed. There's some

598
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: of that going on. Trying to play complimentary football, and

599
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: it's a smart thing to do, but you got to

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Speaker 4: be productive on both sides of the ball to make

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Speaker 4: it work, not just one.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but we're taking

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back from break. We'll

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Speaker 2: also have this week's Player of the game. Both of

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Speaker 2: those things coming your way next Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colida of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. This

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Speaker 2: Today it's James Cook, who had thirteen carries for fifty

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Speaker 2: six yards, three receptions for forty six and a touchdown

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and two total yards from scrimmage he

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Speaker 2: is your player of the game in week seven. Got

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Speaker 2: to get back to the phones though at eight oh

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Speaker 2: three zero five fifty one eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty and to John in Massachusetts, next, what

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Speaker 2: do you got for us? John?

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Speaker 9: Heyan's going just wanting to h touch on Josh Allen's

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Speaker 9: like confidence a little bit, I don't. I mean, we

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Speaker 9: all know what, you know, the Bills offense is capable of.

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Speaker 9: We saw week two, three and four. It's just I

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Speaker 9: feel like and the tough thing is, you know last

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Speaker 9: week I said them spread it around a little bit more,

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Speaker 9: which is exactly what they did yesterday. Now it's just

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Speaker 9: like I just like don't even know where to start

625
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 9: trying to put like, you know, pinpoint what's going on.

626
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Speaker 9: But I just feel like he's not playing with that

627
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 9: you know, confidence and zipping the ball in there, taking

628
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Speaker 9: his reads and like ripping it to his you know,

629
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Speaker 9: first target or second or third or whatever. And I

630
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Speaker 9: just don't know how you get back on that track.

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Speaker 9: And then one other thing, I just a little bit

632
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Speaker 9: want to like kind of talk Bils Mafia off the

633
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Speaker 9: edge a little bit, just because you know, we've seen

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Speaker 9: this team go through you know what they've gone through,

635
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Speaker 9: but still early in the season and we get every

636
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Speaker 9: single team's best effort as a you know, going to

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Speaker 9: the season super Bowl contender, so everyone's going to be

638
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Speaker 9: giving us everything they have. I'm still very confident that

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Speaker 9: this team we can see that same Week two through

640
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Speaker 9: four team at some point in the future. And yeah,

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Speaker 9: I don't know, go Bills, Hopefully we can rerate the ship.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks John, appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean, Josh,

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Speaker 2: it was interesting this past week. He talked about body

644
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: language because I think coach McDermott or whoever sat down

645
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: with him and said, look, your body language impacts this

646
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: entire team. They literally go as you go. When you're

647
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: feeling it and you're in a groove, it lifts the

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Speaker 2: entire team. Why because the rest of the team knows

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00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: they have maybe the best athlete in the entire league

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Speaker 2: playing quarterback for them, and when he's hot, they feel unbeatable.

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Speaker 2: But when things aren't going right and your body language

652
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Speaker 2: reflects it and you're down in the dumps, everybody else

653
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Speaker 2: thinks a little bit too. I think there's there's some

654
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: there's some fact in that, and so he recognized it

655
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: to his credit last week and tried to be better

656
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: for it. As a matter of fact, I witnessed this

657
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 2: in yesterday's game. He overshoots Diggs on the shot play

658
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: that could have been a touchdown. The next play, he

659
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: throws wide of Digs on the right sideline near the

660
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Speaker 2: Bill sideline. There it's third and fourteen, and he's clapping

661
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: as he's waiting for the guys to show up for

662
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: the huddle third and fourteen. So he tried to keep

663
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: his emotions up and stay positive. So I give him

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Speaker 2: credit for that yesterday, I do. I don't think there's

665
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: ever going to be a major confidence issue with Josh.

666
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: He knows what he is capable of, he knows what

667
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: his physical gifts are, and I still think to this

668
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: day he's underrated as a smart player. He has a

669
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: high football IQ. I don't think that guy is ever

670
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Speaker 2: going to be lacking confidence in what his own personal

671
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: abilities are. He knows he is an elite player in

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Speaker 2: this league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's certainly leadership matters, no question, But I

674
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Speaker 4: think I don't think anybody's complained about the way Josh leads,

675
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Speaker 4: and certainly it's up to guys like Digs and we've

676
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: seen it two dicks.

677
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: Dig was the only guy trying to juice people up

678
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Speaker 2: on the sideline yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And you Diggs probably, I mean, bless his heart, he's

680
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: probably reticent to go out and yell anybody on the

681
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Speaker 4: sideline because everybody thinks he's unhappy and wants to get

682
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Speaker 4: traded every time he raises his voice on the sideline. Right,

683
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Speaker 4: So he's But now, I don't think there's a leadership

684
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 4: problem on the players. I think the players are ready

685
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: to play. I think they want to play. I think

686
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 4: they like each other. I think that's a good vibe

687
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: down there. Certainly they're not playing at a high level

688
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: like that we've seen them in this season, and it's

689
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: just as frustrating for them as it is anybody.

690
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: And I know this too.

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00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: They when the atmosphere that I was a part of

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00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 4: in the NFL, and what I'm sure still exists, is

693
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: when they go into to put these plays in and

694
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Speaker 4: game plans and install them. When you install a play

695
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: in an NFL meeting, you give the rationale, here's why,

696
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: here's why we're putting this play in. Here's what they're doing,

697
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: here's what we're doing, here's what we want to do.

698
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Here's what we've been good at the whole thing. So

699
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 4: it is a group effort and a collective consciousness that

700
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Speaker 4: gives you a lot of confidence going into these games.

701
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Speaker 4: So when they sit back down today and like yesterday,

702
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: and like last week after the Giants came and today,

703
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: after this New England game last night, they're probably watching

704
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: the tape on the way back on the charter YEP.

705
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: There's conversations about what we were trying to do, what

706
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: we thought was gonna happen, and what actually happened. And

707
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 4: there's gonna be pluses and minuses in each play. So

708
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: they're gonna they're gonna glean some confidence and some realization

709
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 4: about why their process didn't work this week and what

710
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna do to fix it going forward, and some

711
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: of the things they want to try and some of

712
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: the things they haven't tried, or what they want to do,

713
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: and what players would like to do, and they'll take

714
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: it to Dorsey, Josh, Will Digs, Will Cook, Will Kincaid,

715
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 4: Will Knox, Will They'll all say, hey, listen, hell what

716
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: about this.

717
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: Let's try this.

718
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of positive energy in it when

719
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 4: you're trying to put this stuff together and fix whatever

720
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: you know has ailed this offense, and yesterday, for the

721
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: first time this season, maybe what ailed the defense outside

722
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: of the obvious of you know, three or four really

723
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 4: good players not being on the field. So there's all

724
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 4: that positive energy going on. So don't you know, we

725
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: do get the body language part of it, and sometimes

726
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of audio about how guys are, you know,

727
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: yelling at each other on the sidelines, kind of pumping

728
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: each other up. You get a little of that, but

729
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: there's tons of that off the field that you never see.

730
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: And there's quiet conversations too, on plane rides back home

731
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: or to the game, you know, and in the locker room.

732
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: So don't think this team lacks quality leadership. I think

733
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 4: they've got it. They got tons of it. But you know,

734
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: you you got to execute it. You got to get

735
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: out and you got to play well, and you got

736
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: to win your matchup. You got to beat the guy

737
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: across from you. And that's always going to be part

738
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: and parcel of what it is to win games in

739
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: the NFL. There's a lot in it, and we tend

740
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: to oversimplify sometimes. The caller's right.

741
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to it Chandler

742
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: in Rochester. What do you got, Channing?

743
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, got a couple points I want to make

744
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 10: with you. I can't remember if it was a third

745
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 10: and intermediate or what it was, but it was a short,

746
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 10: completed path to for the Patriots where Dane Jackson's playing

747
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 10: fifteen yards off the ball and knowing it's a third down.

748
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Speaker 10: And I just feel like I've seen that a lot

749
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 10: on third down over the past couple of weeks. Is

750
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 10: just the coverage is way off, very relaxed.

751
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sometimes that is a byproduct of who

752
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: you got on the field. This is a defense that

753
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: we know does play more zone than man. Going into

754
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: the game yesterday, they were fifth in the league in

755
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: zone coverage eighty one percent, man coverage nineteen percent, twenty

756
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: eighth in the league. Just for comparison's sake, the Patriots

757
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: play zone coverage sixty five percent the time, man coverage

758
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: thirty five percent of the time. Now, they've also gotten

759
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: the doors blown off for most of the season, so

760
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: take it for what it's worth. They're putting the guys

761
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: in a position with a defensive call they believe their

762
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: players can handle. And I think that has changed to

763
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: some degree based on who they have on the field now.

764
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: Tredevius White's gone for the season, Matt Mlonald likely gone

765
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: for the season, dey Kwon Jones there hopefully comes back

766
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. But who you have

767
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: and who you don't have changes the matchups and changes

768
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: the play calls, and so that's baked into what we're

769
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: seeing out there because maybe they don't believe that a

770
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: certain guy can handle a man coverage call against that matchup,

771
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Speaker 2: and unfortunately we're seeing that the Bills don't have their

772
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: elite players to match up and so what's that gonna happen.

773
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen. You're gonna get more zone calls now?

774
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: Should they play fifteen yards off that? If you want

775
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: to debate that, I'll listen to that. But that's kind

776
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: of where we are right now with this football team.

777
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: We have to take a break again, more of your

778
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back, do our best to

779
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: get to everybody. Chris and Long Island, Robert and Jamestown

780
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,560
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, who averages longest time to throw in a

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Speaker 2: game this season three point two six seconds, struggled when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this this statum, we're looking at it. For those

801
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: of you on the radio, is you know when he

802
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: averages longest time he averaged his longest time you need

803
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: to throw. Yeah, to me, that's when he takes time

804
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: to throw, when he takes time to throws because guys

805
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: are covered up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's usually extending to play with his legs.

807
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 4: That's like blaming. That's like blaming Josh for that. You know.

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00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a little miss.

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Speaker 4: It's misleading, you're it's not a stat about Josh Allen's

810
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: the stat about the guys he's thrown to, and is

811
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 4: stat about his protection. Uh, and even even his protection,

812
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: it doesn't even really accurately depict. So yeah, I hate

813
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 4: that stat. Yeah, that time to throw status.

814
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: So so maybe those numbers don't matter.

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00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: I get those, you know, those stats, and they listen,

816
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: we break this game. We chew this game up, and yeah,

817
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: and and spit it out and then chew it up

818
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: some more. So I get the stats and stuff. But

819
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: it's so, you know, for a quarterback like Josh Allen,

820
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: it's you know, he'll take time, but he does not

821
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 4: that he has time to throw. He takes the time

822
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: to throw.

823
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

824
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of that going on when you

825
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: get a quarterback like Josh, quarterback like Lamar Jackson a

826
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Speaker 4: quarterback like you know, any of these guys Mac Jones, Tua.

827
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Speaker 4: Those kind of guys are the ones that take time,

828
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: you know, that have the time or not right, but

829
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Speaker 4: Josh makes the time.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. A lot of people

831
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: waiting there. We go to Chris on Long Island. What

832
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Chris?

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how are you uh? Just wanted to broad up?

834
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 11: Bring up something. It's a it's a ticki tech thing,

835
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 11: but and it's a fifty to fifty luck thing. But

836
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 11: these coin tosses when we when we in them, we

837
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 11: seem to always defer. And I get it if there's

838
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 11: a weather situation, I don't buy that too. For one thing,

839
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 11: at the end of the half, because there's no guarantee

840
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 11: you can have the ball at the end of the

841
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 11: first half.

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Speaker 10: But we have them.

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Speaker 11: We have the arguably the most talented player in the

844
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 11: league on our team. And all we keep oh I

845
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 11: keep hearing from McDermot is we get we're slow starters

846
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 11: with this and that. Why not take the ball once

847
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 11: and take let your offense could down and you know,

848
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 11: go down at score, take the lead instead of being

849
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 11: it's it's kind of like the old field goal mentality.

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Speaker 11: I again, like I said, I get it if there's

851
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Speaker 11: a weather issue or something that gives you an advantage,

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Speaker 11: but I don't. I don't. I just get You'd like

853
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 11: to get your your take on it, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is. Analytics have proven it that

855
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: more often than not, you will end up with the

856
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Speaker 2: last possession of the half, and by deferring, you get

857
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: the first possession of the second half, And so coaches

858
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: players they look at that as an opportunity to double dip.

859
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: You have two chances to score. So if you're down

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00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: a score in the game, you have the last possession

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Speaker 2: of the first half, you have a chance to put

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00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: the points on the board there. And then you come

863
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: out in the second half and you can put points

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00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: on the board again and suddenly you're up by a

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Speaker 2: score instead of down by a score. You can change

866
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: the course of the game. Every team in the league

867
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: just about if they win the coin toss defer.

868
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 4: And it's yeah, you may pick off, you may pooh

869
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: pull it, but it's a real thing.

870
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, in the games where

871
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: the Bills have lost the coin toss, their offense has

872
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: come out and started with the ball first. I believe

873
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: that happened in Jacksonville they got nothing. It cappened against

874
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: the Giants, they got nothing. So you can talk all

875
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: you want about slow starts and getting the ball first

876
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: might cure it. The two times that they had the

877
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: ball first, they didn't, so I'd probably stick with what

878
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: the analytics tell us. They did have the ball at

879
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: the end of the first half yesterday, they just got

880
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: it back with twenty one seconds, and not to mention

881
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: the fact that they had a turnover on their first possession,

882
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: which upset the apple cart in terms of how those

883
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: possessions work out.

884
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 4: It's really frustrating, and I'll say it again, frustrating. It's

885
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: it's what we're going through here. Because we've seen this,

886
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: this version of the Bills without Von Miller ring people up.

887
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: Now certainly that you can say what you want. The

888
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: Dolphins took it on the chin last night. They're five

889
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: and two. The Bills are four and three, one game

890
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: worse after having beat that Miami team, and but the

891
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 4: Dolphins lumped up some pretty weak opponents. The Bills did

892
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: the same thing, but they also beat the Dolphins.

893
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: That's their only notable victory.

894
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: That's right, but you can't. You don't pick who you play.

895
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: But all I'm saying is we've seen this team play

896
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: well this version this year, and so there it's in

897
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: there to be found again, you know what I'm saying.

898
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: So that's the really frustrating part, I think for fans.

899
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: You see this team go out there and play like

900
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 4: that against the Patriots, and we you know, there's a

901
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: ton of teams we've seen it. I mean, I don't

902
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: want to I'm not giving.

903
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: Them a pass, but the Patriots have.

904
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 4: Been known to do that to people even when they stink,

905
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: which they do this year. But it's that The frustrating

906
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: part about it is, you know, why can't they play

907
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: the way they did in two three and four weeks

908
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: two three and four the other times? It's frustrating to

909
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: watch and you and your look for answers as to

910
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: why that is, why it happened? What is it about

911
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: those other teams? Certainly those other teams were struggling when

912
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: the Bills played them outside the Dolphins, and you see

913
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: the team go out and perform the way it did yesterday,

914
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: and you know, they lost, you know, a close game

915
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: like they have always lost under Sean mcdern. That's the game.

916
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: You know, rarely do they get double digit losses. Man,

917
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: oh man. And you know you see the officiating make

918
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 4: a make a bad play. Here, you see you see

919
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: the Patriots get the benefit of a bounce. There, you

920
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: see the Bills do something good that may give him

921
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: a chance to win the game. And then the side

922
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: of the football that we've been depending on all year,

923
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: lets him go a minute fifty three, lets him go

924
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: the link of the field and beat him. Uh. It's frustrating,

925
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 4: But whatever's wrong with the Bills in these games where

926
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: they can't get out of their own way, it's fixable,

927
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: and I think the guys in the building are the

928
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: ones to fix it. I mean, yeah, we can all

929
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: offer advice, and I'm and I'm with you.

930
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 12: Man.

931
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: Let's let's do something here to shake things up.

932
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: Take the ball out of the gate, off the coin, flip,

933
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 4: go no huddle, Okay, go eleven personnel, Okay, put kim

934
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: put kin kaid on the field. Put you all right,

935
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 4: fine to it. But I think they've got enough pieces

936
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: in this in the building, in the locker room to

937
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: go yeah and then and one guy and I forget

938
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: about this. I forgot about this, and he's right. Brought

939
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 4: up the fact that at one point a couple of

940
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: years ago, the Bills were seven and six and they

941
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: just had been three and five.

942
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 2: They lost three right and in order time to the Bucks.

943
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: That was in twenty twenty one. They went to five

944
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: and three after a nine to six loss to the

945
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 4: two win Jaguars, and then that ended up being the

946
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one season is the year they everybody says

947
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 4: they should have won the Super Bowl.

948
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: That's the year that had ended up.

949
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 4: They won out as they fixed it, and they fixed

950
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: it at the right time of year. So I'm all

951
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: for finding out about yourself and getting through worth seven

952
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 4: games into it, they got an idea of it. Now

953
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 4: it all these changes with the injuries and guys coming

954
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 4: up and down off the injury list and who's going

955
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: to be available, and so it kind of changes week

956
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: to week. But this is a team that needs to,

957
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: you know, find out who they are and start flexing,

958
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 4: because if you want to be the team you think

959
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: you are, you should be able to flex on some

960
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 4: of these teams.

961
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's squeeze Robert and Jamestown in real quick here

962
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: before the break. What do you got for us, Robert?

963
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: How you doing good.

964
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 13: In these close games when the defense is not on

965
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 13: the field.

966
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 8: Is McDermott involved at all with the offense? And if

967
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 8: he's not, should he be?

968
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: I think he is keeping based on what he said yesterday,

969
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: because he was asked specifically about that in his postgame

970
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: press conference, he said he's involved in all three phases.

971
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: Now what that means, that's left for us to guess, Robert.

972
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: So it's really hard to ascertain how heavy handed he

973
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: is in the other two phases of the game. Knowing

974
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: he's handling the defense firsthand. I would think his involvement

975
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: in the other two phases is reduced to some degree because,

976
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: quite honestly, that's just too much for one guy to

977
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: do on a game day, in addition to the head

978
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: coaching responsibilities, clock management and the like. But he does

979
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: weigh in, what could that be? That could be, Hey,

980
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: it's third and four here, we're in plus territory at

981
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: the thirty eight ken, you've got two downs here, it's

982
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: two down situation. We'll go for it on fourth down

983
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: if you don't get it here on third, like it

984
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: might be weighing in in that fashion. Beyond that, I

985
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: don't know if it's much more than that, like you

986
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because then you're really being you're

987
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: asking the head coach to invest super heavy in the

988
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: situations each in every series, and I think that's too much.

989
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they here's the thing. When these coaches know

990
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 4: what they need to be a part of what they don't,

991
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: and if there's some comes up and there's a list,

992
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: I imagine there's a list of things like listen, if

993
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: it's a time out, if it's a go for it situation,

994
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 4: if it's a three down, four down situation, if it's

995
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: penalty except I penalty decline, that kind of thing. Certainly,

996
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: that's stuff that McDermott is responsible for and he's gonna

997
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 4: be in on. But when that defense comes off the field,

998
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: there's always a minute or two, particularly on the first

999
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: and ten with the offense, when there's a changeover with

1000
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: a punt or punt return, he's gonna go over to

1001
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 4: his defense and spend two or three minutes of real

1002
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: time saying, Okay, here's where we're at, here's where we're

1003
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: gonna go. Plus, the coaches upstairs and the coaches on

1004
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: the sideline are in that as well, and once he

1005
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: gets them started, they can finish it up so he

1006
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: can go back and face the field again and get

1007
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: involved with the offense. So believe me, they've thought through

1008
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: every scenario they can think of as to whether he's

1009
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: going to be involved or there, or in and out

1010
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: of the conversations and adjusting the defense between series. That's

1011
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 4: basically what you're talking about. So I don't think they're

1012
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 4: unhappy with how that's gone this far. I don't think

1013
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: that's the issue because the defense has been playing great

1014
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: up until you know, the last two minutes of that

1015
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: game yesterday, So I think they're okay with their protocols.

1016
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: But yes, you're right, McDermott is spread a little thinner

1017
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: on game day and during games than he has been

1018
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: in the past because of his defensive coordinator.

1019
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls

1020
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: in hour number two here on a Buffalo Football Monday

1021
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

1022
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 14: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1023
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

1024
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Buffalo Football Monday.

1025
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Obviously all disappointed about

1026
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: the twenty nine, twenty five defeat at the hands of

1027
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: the division rival Patriots. With the Bills will be getting

1028
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: right back on the horse again because they've got another

1029
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: game in three days from now, Thursday Night Football at

1030
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium against the Tampa Bay Bucks, who are

1031
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: a team that are also licking their wounds after dropping

1032
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: a divisional game of their own to the lowly Atlanta

1033
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: Falcons yesterday. Yeah. So two teams coming off similar time

1034
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: defeats going into this one on Thursday night, so both

1035
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: will be motivated to quote unquote write the ship. But

1036
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: we go right back to your phone calls at eight

1037
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: h three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight

1038
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: five fifty two five point fifty and to Joe down

1039
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: in Texas. What's up, Joe?

1040
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how you guys doing today?

1041
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 2: All right? Hanging in there? Man?

1042
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 12: Hey? So you know, looking at Josh over the years,

1043
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 12: I know he was going to those Jordan Palmer camps

1044
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 12: every year. Seems like that helped him tremendously. I don't

1045
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 12: know if you guys know if he went last summer

1046
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 12: or now he goes.

1047
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 4: He trains, In fact, he trains I think with Joe

1048
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 4: Burrow doesn't he.

1049
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: Well, Burrow has worked with Palmer also. I don't know

1050
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: if they're both still working every single offseason, but he

1051
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: lives near Jordan.

1052
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they did. There was some stuff on social

1053
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: media about those guys spending some time out there this

1054
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: last year, so yeah, they do.

1055
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: He still gets coached by him.

1056
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's good. Well, the only thing I thought

1057
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 12: he could improve on him this year would be getting

1058
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 12: rid of the ball a little quicker, hitting guys in stride.

1059
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 12: It seems like, I don't know, to me, it seems

1060
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 12: like he's waiting till the guys are open. I don't

1061
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 12: know where we stand with yardage after the catch, but

1062
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 12: I think we're pretty low. We get tackled immediately right

1063
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 12: on the contact of the catch. I don't know if

1064
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 12: that's accurate, but that's kind of how I see it.

1065
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 12: I don't know if that's the play call or him

1066
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 12: just not throwing the ball fast enough. I don't know.

1067
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you're right. The Bills have never under with

1068
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: Josh as or quarterback, have never been good at run

1069
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 4: after catch. That's one of the reasons they were kind

1070
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: of high on on Dalton Kincaid, And you know, getting

1071
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: some stuff and you're right hitting guys in stride. Josh

1072
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: will do it. You can you can picture passes he's

1073
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: made where he's done that, but not too much. I mean,

1074
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 4: Josh has always been one of those sticket right on

1075
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 4: him quarterbacks and let the guy make a guy miss

1076
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 4: or just take the yardage. It has been a problem

1077
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: to run after catch. I think it continues to be

1078
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 4: something they'd like to do better.

1079
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I hopefully they can get a go.

1080
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 12: What do you guys think about Dave Davis and number

1081
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 12: two and a number six for Davante Adams next week Tuesday.

1082
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's nice to think about Joe, but they

1083
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: couldn't take on Davante Adams contract if they wanted to.

1084
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: And the Raiders actually came out last week and said

1085
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: he is not for sale. Not to rain on your parade,

1086
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: but that's kind of where things sit. Let's go to

1087
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: Sean on Long Island. Long Island coming strong today? What

1088
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 2: do you got for a Sean Hey.

1089
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 15: Fellas, thanks so much for taking my call. I this

1090
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 15: is kind of piggybacking on the last caller and how

1091
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 15: Josh is when when we're up, I feel like versus

1092
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 15: receivers really quick. You're onto the ball a little bit longer.

1093
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 16: Is that me?

1094
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 10: Or maybe it's you know, because we're pilled.

1095
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, you're you're breaking up on us, so we're missing,

1096
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: we're missing kind of half of what you're saying here.

1097
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: What's your question if you could restate it real quick,

1098
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: let me.

1099
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 17: Try again, take you off the speaker here. So it

1100
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 17: feels just kind of piggybacking on the last caller about

1101
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 17: Josh and how Josh like when we're up, he's I

1102
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 17: feel like he's even if we're up by a point,

1103
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 17: up by three points, he feels like a different quarterback,

1104
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 17: Like he's hitting those receivers really quick. And then when

1105
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 17: we're down, like he's holding onto the ball a little

1106
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 17: bit longer. Like are you seeing that. I know we're

1107
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 17: going to be playing, you know, a little bit tighter

1108
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 17: when we're down and bit looser when we're up, but

1109
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 17: like he feels almost like a different quarterback when we're

1110
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 17: in those situations.

1111
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I haven't really tried to make a

1112
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: point of looking at how he plays when they're down

1113
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard in comparison to when they're up, So

1114
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that I could give you an accurate

1115
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: answer to what I'm seeing. That's a tough one for me.

1116
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: I know, the guy in his career has had a

1117
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: healthy number of fourth quarter comebacks. Is he waiting longer?

1118
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean to me, they went into

1119
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: the hurry up yesterday and he was firing and awfully

1120
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: quick and they were down on the scoreboard and it

1121
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: worked quite well. Yeah that's just a one game sample,

1122
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know that that holds water.

1123
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 4: Right, I don't know. Yeah, they're good front runners. Yeah,

1124
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: they rung it up on people. Sure, we've seen it

1125
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: once in a while. I think every team is more

1126
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: comfortable playing with the lead. I don't think it's just Josh.

1127
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a trans information like you're

1128
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: talking about, where he's a completely different guy, because we have,

1129
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: like Brownie says, we've seen him come back and score

1130
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: late in games and really you know, and drag the

1131
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: team on his back, playing really good. So and whether

1132
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 4: holding onto the ball or not. So, I don't know

1133
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: if I can make that. I don't know if I

1134
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: can one hundred percent say that everybody's a better front

1135
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: runner than they are coming from behind.

1136
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: And then for our previous caller, you might be surprised

1137
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: to know the Bills are seventh in the league and

1138
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: yards after the catch this year, which is their highest

1139
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: ranking by far in the Sean McDermott era, where they

1140
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: have often languished somewhere between twenty ninth and thirty second

1141
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: in the league in yards after the catch. It's actually

1142
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: something they're doing quite well. This year. They have seven

1143
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety yards after the catch. The only teams

1144
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: with more than that in front of them Kansas City, Miami, Indy, Detroit,

1145
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: New England, and Jacksonville. And the teams in front of them.

1146
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: That's largely because some of those teams throw it short

1147
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot and rely on guys to get yards afterwards,

1148
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: like New England and Indianapolis, for example. Miami will do it,

1149
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: but they're always going to be high in yards after

1150
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: catch because they have the fastest team in football. But

1151
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: seventh is a very respectable place to be, especially in

1152
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: light of where they've been in previous years. Let's go

1153
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: to Dave in Clarence next. What do you got for us?

1154
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 18: Dave say, Guys, like all other Mafia members, I was

1155
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 18: disappointed in the game, but I'm not ready to give

1156
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 18: up on the Bills, but I think they clearly need

1157
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 18: to make two mid season corrections, and if they do it,

1158
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 18: I think it may change the whole atmosphere. First of all,

1159
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 18: I think they need to identify a number two receiver.

1160
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 18: And the reason I say that is because we see

1161
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 18: that Diggs is double If you identify a number two

1162
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 18: receiver for Josh, the defense has to either double cover

1163
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 18: him or single cover him. And what that does it

1164
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 18: doesn't prevent us from spreading the ball around because Josh

1165
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 18: is quick enough to identify three, four and five receivers.

1166
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 18: So identified number two, now it's either Gave Davis or

1167
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 18: a Shirtfield or somebody even James Cook if you want.

1168
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 18: The second thing that needs to happen is this. They

1169
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 18: need to stop trying to make Josh a manager of

1170
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 18: a football game. Josh is one of the most gifted,

1171
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 18: instinctive athlete playing today and that's watch this. That first

1172
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 18: pass that Josh threw to Dawson. The the TV went

1173
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 18: back and showed us in slow motion that Josh I

1174
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 18: Gotson all the way. Peppers had his eyes on Josh,

1175
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 18: so he came and stole the ball. Okay, that's that's

1176
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 18: that is not Josh. The fourth quarter is Josh where

1177
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 18: he instinctive lee takes over a game and with his

1178
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 18: athletic superiority, he just matches us down the field. So

1179
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 18: it just they need to stop using periods one to

1180
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 18: three to manage Josh and then at the poor Pierce

1181
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 18: that Josh will win the game for us. It doesn't

1182
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 18: work like that, right, Yeah, I'm sorry.

1183
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Dave. I think you have

1184
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: to take the good with the bad, though with all

1185
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: due respect, Like you can't give Josh all the credit

1186
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: for bringing him back from a deficit in the fourth

1187
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: quarter and then put his interception when he's staring down

1188
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: a receiver on the coaching staff and saying they're keeping

1189
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: him under wraps. I think you have to take the

1190
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: good with the bad with Josh, and the facts for this,

1191
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: Josh has not gone more than two games in a

1192
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: row without a turnover since twenty twenty one. He's going

1193
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: to turn the football over. That's also part of who

1194
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: he is.

1195
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: So if you want to take the good, which is

1196
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: him in the fourth quarter, you also got to take

1197
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: the bad, which is there's probably gonna be a turnover

1198
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: mixed in there somewhere when he's staring down a receiver

1199
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: when he wants.

1200
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: To make a play. Look, he's gonna throw interceptions. That's

1201
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: just who he is. His career tells you that. Sure,

1202
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: you can work to minimize them, but if you're gonna

1203
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 2: put if you're gonna let Josh be Josh, you gotta

1204
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: take the bad with it and don't put it on

1205
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: the coaches.

1206
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: We've had a little bit of a conversation today also

1207
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 4: about them coaching that out of him, and when it's

1208
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 4: like Brownie said, if you want Josh to be Josh,

1209
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to live with turnovers. If you coach

1210
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 4: it out of him, you're gonna have to live with

1211
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 4: sometimes the offense looking like it did yesterday and has

1212
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 4: for four out of the seven weeks this year.

1213
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: So decide what you want. You got to decide what

1214
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: you want now, and the coaching staff has to make

1215
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: that decision to coach.

1216
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Josh does a little bit as well. He's

1217
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 4: got to decide to you know, if he's gonna play

1218
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: his brand of football and what he's gonna you know,

1219
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 4: what he wants to do. Josh is ultimately the one

1220
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: who controls how he plays. So yeah, there's there's two

1221
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 4: sides of all of this, and it's not as simple

1222
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 4: as sometimes we out here like wish it was. And uh,

1223
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: I think, like I said, it's a frustrating team right now,

1224
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: the way they've been playing over the last three weeks.

1225
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: And he got every right to be frustrated. I get it,

1226
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: I really do. You just got to hope that the

1227
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: people in charge can find the right buttons to push

1228
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: and the right answers to utilize, whether it's personnel, scheme

1229
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: or both, and come up with what looks better in

1230
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: terms of an on field product going forward. We go

1231
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: to Lewis in Rochester next. What's up Lewis?

1232
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 19: Hey, guys, great show.

1233
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1234
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 19: I'm I'm not a Bills fan, but what I see

1235
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 19: is the slow start that's killing them. They're losing in

1236
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 19: the first quarter basically, And what I would do personally

1237
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 19: is make sure you script those plays, go over those

1238
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 19: first plays, go over everything. It's the first quarter. Make

1239
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 19: sure that these guys are playing almost like they're losing

1240
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 19: in the first quarter, and just go out there. And

1241
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 19: I know you can go three and out with a

1242
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 19: quick run, but at the same time, their defense is

1243
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 19: rested at the beginning of the game, so they can

1244
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 19: absorb a little of that hurry up offense. So anyway,

1245
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 19: that's my answer. They got to get off to a

1246
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 19: hot start. That's the only way they're going.

1247
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: To win, all right, Lewis, thanks, You're entitled to your opinion.

1248
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident they do have a script to start

1249
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: every game, and I'm confident that they rep it to

1250
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: death through the course of the week. I mean, it's

1251
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: not like they don't focus on these things every single week.

1252
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: They do. Sometimes the execution works better against one given

1253
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: opponent than another. Sometimes the matchups that they anticipated working

1254
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: at the start of the game are in as effective

1255
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: because maybe that defense comes out in something that they

1256
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: weren't expecting. There's there's a multitude of variables that can

1257
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: explain slow starts, and sometimes it's different from one week

1258
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: to the next, even though the outcome is the same

1259
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: the last three weeks, which it has been so because

1260
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: you're playing three different teams with three different coaches and

1261
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: different schemes and different matchups, it's endless. I mean, you

1262
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: could Steve always talks about going down the rabbit hole.

1263
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: The rabbit hole can get real deep, real fast, and

1264
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: all the answers are different down in the hole from

1265
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: one week to the next. So yeah, and that's why

1266
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: finding answers is as hard as it is.

1267
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, I know, Hey what he say? He said,

1268
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: you know, play like you're behind in the beginning, you know,

1269
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 4: I get it. Uh, you got to play with a

1270
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 4: sense of urgency. Yes, you're right, that's that's what you

1271
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 4: gotta do. And you're right, Uh, Lou In Rochester, they

1272
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 4: have gotten off to poor starts, However, I don't think

1273
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 4: they're losing the game in the first quarter. They had

1274
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: the lead with a minute fifty three to go last week.

1275
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 4: They scored two touchdowns late in the game to beat

1276
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: the Giants last week, so they've they've got plenty under

1277
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 4: the hood to beat these teams. But you're you know,

1278
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 4: you gotta play well, and anytime you've done quarters, yeah,

1279
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: in that time, you don't you make it harder on yourself.

1280
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 4: They've had what it takes has taken to beat all

1281
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 4: seven of the teams they played this year. You gotta

1282
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 4: play well all the time or you're gonna look either bad.

1283
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: You're gonna win big, you're gonna lose small or are

1284
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 4: you gonna win small and lose big the other team

1285
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 4: gets some credit to So yeah, yeah, well it's not

1286
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 4: over kind of oversimplifying it here. It's gonna take more

1287
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: than just a fast start, and it's gonna take more

1288
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 4: than just an early sense of urgency to do it.

1289
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 4: But those things have been absent in the last couple

1290
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Speaker 4: of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Back to the falls into Mark in New Jersey.

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Speaker 20: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, And gentlemen, I told you yesterday,

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Speaker 20: Ceb it needs to be Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, Hardy. I

1294
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 20: mean you saw Hardy put I was it Jack Jones.

1295
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 20: He put in a blender on the sideline there.

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Speaker 2: That's what I actually said on the broadcast. I said

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Speaker 2: he put him in a blender.

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Speaker 20: Like he broke his ankles. I think there's still left

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Speaker 20: on the Gillette Stadium turf. But you know you just

1300
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 20: talked about going down a rabbit hole. The rabbit hole

1301
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 20: is Murray. Just avoid contact there four more points. Bass

1302
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 20: hit the kick, three more points and we're having a

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 20: different conversation.

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: That's right, Yep, that's right, and ten points.

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01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 4: Basses missed two kicks in the Giants game and then

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01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 4: the one yesterday. It's not usual.

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Speaker 2: It's a borderline rub play, and not for nothing. The

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01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: Patriots had a rub play on one of their touchdowns

1309
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: to Bourne and they didn't call it. They called it

1310
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: on Murray and it nullifies a touchdown to Knox. But

1311
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: if the touchdown to Knox stands up, Bass hits his

1312
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 2: field goal, that's ten more points on the board and

1313
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: you win by six so or five. It's just yeah,

1314
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: it doesn't take much to flip the course of a game,

1315
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: especially when it's that tight. That's why Bill's fans are

1316
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: frustrated because they know this team is capable of more,

1317
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 2: namely scoring more points from start to finish, and they

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01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in a tight, hard fought game with the Patriots.

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: But Steve saw it coming last week when we were

1320
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: on the air. He saw it coming. And that's what happened.

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: Because when team, when even you have teams that are struggling,

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: they don't struggle forever. They rise up and have a

1323
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: good performance every once in a while. The Bills just

1324
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: happened to catch the Patriots in one of those weeks.

1325
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones and to Bill and Buffalo next.

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Speaker 21: What's up, Bill, Hey, guys rough day today, But I

1327
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 21: just got to ask. I know, we played horribly bad

1328
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 21: and deserved to lose and all of that, you know stuff,

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 21: But you know, to me, you were up twenty eight

1330
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 21: to twenty five, and the bottom line to me was,

1331
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 21: how in the world do they justify picking up that

1332
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 21: flag on the illegal man downfield call that gave them

1333
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 21: It would have been first in fifteen, I believe on

1334
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 21: the twenty. Instead they got forty some yards. Thirty some

1335
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 21: yards is really big game, and it changed the whole game.

1336
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 21: It gave you know, I I'm sick and tired of

1337
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 21: being called a whiner because I'm a Buffalo fan and

1338
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 21: when I see something that's crap, I call it out

1339
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 21: as a piece of crap. But it was a blatantly

1340
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 21: obvious a call. How in the world can the NFL

1341
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 21: justify that? Why isn't it being talked about a little

1342
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 21: bit more on TV today? A little bit? I mean,

1343
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 21: I mean it changed the game. They won the game

1344
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 21: because of that call. There's no way they were won

1345
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 21: eighty yards. You know, it's just disgusting. And you know,

1346
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 21: great teams like the old San Francisco forty nine ers

1347
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 21: was Joe Siana. They'd constantly win games fourteen to twelve

1348
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 21: against teams who are a favorite fourteen points over great

1349
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 21: teams win games like that. We would have won that game,

1350
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 21: and I feel it got taken away from us as

1351
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 21: crappy as we played. And yes, we didn't deserve it,

1352
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 21: and YadA, YadA, YadA, but the bottom line is without that,

1353
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 21: you didn't call it a blown call. I'll call it

1354
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 21: a fixed call. It was ridiculous and it was embarrassing

1355
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 21: to the NFL. And I'm sick and tired of seeing

1356
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 21: this crap changing games, not just for the Bills, but

1357
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 21: for other teams too.

1358
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 2: I see, And that's the point I was going to

1359
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: make Bill. It happens every single week in this league,

1360
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 2: and sometimes one team gets a little lucky with a

1361
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: bad call by an official. And it happened in three

1362
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: other games yesterday too, So it happens every single week

1363
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: in this league. So what can you do about it?

1364
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: As a football team, you play better and put yourself

1365
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: in a position where a bad call doesn't cost you

1366
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 2: the football game. That wasn't the only bad call in

1367
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: the game. I mean, I was just talking about the

1368
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 2: Latavious Murray rub play that left Dawson Knox wide open

1369
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: for a touchdown. It gets nullified because they call what

1370
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: was the call offensive interference? What do they call that

1371
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: on a rub play? What was the exact call on Murray?

1372
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: Offensive pass interference? So the Patriots ran a very similar

1373
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: play down at the goal line at the other end

1374
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: of the field, Kendrick Bourne's open for a four yard

1375
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: catch and run for a touchdown. They don't call it.

1376
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 2: You know, Josh Allen asks for roughing the passer. If

1377
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 2: there was no helmet to helmet contact, they throw the flag.

1378
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: They give it to him. Taron Johnson gets called for

1379
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: illegal contact. He barely touches the guy. You're gonna get

1380
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 2: bad calls every single week. As a matter of fact,

1381
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: I've conditioned myself going into a game to expect bad

1382
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: officiating calls. So the only way to overcome it as

1383
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: a football team is to play so well and get

1384
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 2: a lead comfortable enough that a bad call is not

1385
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 2: gonna cost you a football game, and not for nothing. Look,

1386
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm mad about the call too. I thought it was

1387
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: BS and I set it on the broadcast live when

1388
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: it happened. Because to call that a backwards pass and

1389
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: pick up a flag for an ineligible man downfield because

1390
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: it's a backwards pass when it wasn't is egregious. It's

1391
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: a bad call, and it's five. It's thirty four yard

1392
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: pass play. But you also had two guys that couldn't

1393
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: make the play, didn't make the tackle, let him run

1394
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: for extra yardage. And then after that you gave up

1395
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: four more plays, including the game winning touchdown with twelve

1396
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: seconds left. And Sean McDermott's gonna be the first person

1397
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: to tell you this. Yeah, bad plays are gonna happen

1398
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: against you. It's what you do after that that sometimes

1399
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,480
Speaker 2: makes the difference between a good team and a great team.

1400
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: And they couldn't make those plays yesterday. So put yourself

1401
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: in a position where you don't fall victim to a

1402
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: bad officiating call that cost you the game. Number one,

1403
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: and then number two, if you are in that position,

1404
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: make the next play so it doesn't cost you the game.

1405
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: And the Bills had four or five opportunity needs to

1406
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: do that on the drive and they did.

1407
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm nobody hates officials more than me. I mean right,

1408
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm the guy that got thrown out of

1409
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 4: his last game. I'll say this though, During my broadcast

1410
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 4: career with CBS, I had the opportunity to talk after

1411
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 4: games with officiating crews, like six guys standing around from

1412
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 4: the crew of the officials. We're standing around having a

1413
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 4: conversation at the airport. After they're all going there are

1414
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: separate ways back to their homes, and I was, you know,

1415
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 4: we talk about the games, what happened, what I said

1416
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 4: about some of the calls they made, some of the

1417
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 4: close calls they had, and what I thought about them.

1418
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 4: And I'd listened to their conversations with each other about

1419
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 4: how the game went for them, and despite you know,

1420
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: sometimes it's good games, bad games, there was always you know,

1421
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 4: one of those calls that they'd talk about stuff. Let

1422
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 4: me tell you something, I was literally shocked at the

1423
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 4: at the professionalism and the nondescript nature that they don't

1424
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: They don't even care what the team, who the teams are.

1425
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: They really try and get every call right, and it's

1426
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 4: almost impossible to do. And there is probably an incredible

1427
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 4: amount of right down the middle, good call, bad call,

1428
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 4: And if it does, like play after play after playoff

1429
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 4: play going against one team or the other, it's strictly

1430
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 4: happenstance I was really impressed and shot, like I say,

1431
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: shocked because you know where I came from about the

1432
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 4: level of the thought process that officials have when they

1433
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 4: go to a game on the NFL level.

1434
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be the first to tell you it's

1435
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: not an easy job. It's not an easy job.

1436
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 4: And I'll say this, they have absolutely zero interest in

1437
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 4: affecting the outcome of that game. All they want to

1438
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 4: do is call the game the way the league wants

1439
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: them to call it. Get you know, if they're going

1440
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 4: to let this go here, they got to let that

1441
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 4: let it go over here as well. The league wants

1442
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: this call this, you know, this week or this year,

1443
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 4: Let's call it this way, and they want to get

1444
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 4: it right.

1445
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: I know. Lack of consistency that ticks off fans, That's exactly,

1446
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: and it's a it is a problem.

1447
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 4: It's a it's not a science. And plus you'll have

1448
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: one guy calling it one way. The real problem is

1449
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 4: calling it different week to.

1450
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,879
Speaker 2: Week, not because you have different crews calling.

1451
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 4: Not usually game in game, if they call it this

1452
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 4: way in the first period, usually in that game they'll

1453
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 4: call it that way in the fourth period, but next

1454
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 4: week hit a different crew they don't call it that way.

1455
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: That's that's a problem. Well, now it's on the players.

1456
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 22: To it just that's right.

1457
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 4: But if you call the consistently in game, the players

1458
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 4: will adjust. They will, So I'm you know, you can

1459
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 4: cool it on the the and it's been all over.

1460
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't just the Bills game yesterday. You should have

1461
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 4: read the Dolphins game last night. Was they were off

1462
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 4: their rockers. The fans are going crazy over that game.

1463
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 4: So it's not just our game. Uh, it happens, and

1464
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 4: it's a real problem. Unless you want the game to

1465
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 4: take six hours to play, you're not gonna review all

1466
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 4: this stuff every single time it happens. So you just

1467
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 4: kind of kind of live with it, and players know

1468
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 4: you got to overcome it. That's just older is too.

1469
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: I had a really smart coach during my very humble

1470
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: athletic career who said, you've got to make your own breaks.

1471
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 2: If you're expecting help from the officials, it's not worth

1472
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: being out here. You got to make your own breaks.

1473
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: Bills didn't make enough of their own and they're on

1474
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 2: the wrong end of the game. We got to take

1475
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: a break. More of your phone calls when we come

1476
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: back and We'll go around the locker room as well

1477
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, We're got to

1478
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: go around the locker room here on one Bill's Live,

1479
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: presented by connect Life, your Blood and organ Donor Network,

1480
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: we begin with head coach Sean McDermott, who obviously was

1481
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: in charge on the Patriots game winning drive. Here is

1482
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: his take on how it unfolded and why.

1483
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 23: I think the first play was a huge play for him. Right,

1484
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 23: they throw a screen, we're in four under three D defense,

1485
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 23: and we didn't do enough to leverage the formation and

1486
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 23: and make the tackle where we needed to make it

1487
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 23: though they can't. I think it was a thirty four

1488
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 23: yard gain. Thirty two thirty four yard gain, and that's

1489
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 23: all of a sudden. Now it's you know, you take

1490
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 23: the field and you're saying, hey, they got you know,

1491
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 23: under two minutes there, and I think they had two

1492
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 23: timeouts at the time, and so they could run it,

1493
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 23: they could draw, they could screen early, and they did

1494
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 23: and we got to be better. Just not allowing it

1495
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 23: to do what it did to us thirty four yards

1496
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 23: is unacceptable, and so I think part of that is

1497
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 23: leveraging the formation. They got into a four by one

1498
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 23: set and making a tackle, and then after that it's hey,

1499
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 23: they got the ball wherever they had it. I think

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Speaker 23: it was over over midfield and still a timeout or

1501
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 23: two there, and so they could run it, they could

1502
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 23: throw it, and it makes it tough right there at

1503
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 23: the end of the day.

1504
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 4: We got to do a better job, all right.

1505
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 2: And then we have Micah Hyde addressing the defensive struggles

1506
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 2: against Mac Jones and the Patriots, who had their best

1507
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,839
Speaker 2: offensive day of the season.

1508
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 24: I felt like we have too much in the first

1509
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 24: two drives. You know, I got to look at the

1510
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 24: play by play to see, you know, rushing yards and

1511
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 24: all that type of stuff, but just didn't play our

1512
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 24: brand of football today. Gave them a little bit too much.

1513
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 24: And you know, obviously it comes down to that last drive.

1514
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 24: We gotta it's the NFL man, coming down to the

1515
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 24: last last two minutes of the game, and you got

1516
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 24: to execute and get off the field, and we just

1517
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 24: didn't do it.

1518
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 11: Seems to these scripted plays at the beginning of games

1519
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 11: the last couple of weeks.

1520
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 22: Have have heard you guys, that's something you agree with.

1521
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 24: I mean, I guess it's accurate. You know, first couple

1522
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 24: of games the season. You know, we we we spoke

1523
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 24: about that. You know, they're they're scripted plays. You know,

1524
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 24: you're trying to get a feel for for what they're

1525
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 24: doing and also defensively, you're trying to get off the

1526
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 24: field to get a takeaway and and you know the

1527
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 24: first two drives we just weren't able to.

1528
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 2: All Right. So that's around the locker room, presented by

1529
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: Connect Life, Your Blood and Oregon Donor Network. Let's get

1530
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: back to the phones where we have people waiting patiently

1531
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: and to Zach and Wheatfield. Next, what do you have, Zach.

1532
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 25: Hey, thanks to taking my call. Very frustrated fan here.

1533
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 25: I mean, just like that in the final drive yesterday,

1534
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 25: McDermott never blitzed this guy. This guy is one of

1535
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 25: the worst quarterbacks in the league. He looked like Montana yesterday. Secondly,

1536
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 25: the play calling is just absolutely horrendous at Dorsey. I

1537
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 25: think he needs to be replaced. I mean there's no imagination.

1538
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 25: Am I comparing him to Davile? Yes, I am, but

1539
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 25: there's no imagination. You know, have a flea flicker or whatever.

1540
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 25: I know it might sound a little silly, but something

1541
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 25: to open up the offense. How's the team score forty

1542
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 25: eight points against Miami, thirty seven against Washington, and now

1543
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 25: you're lucky you get three points before to f Something's

1544
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 25: got to change there again. When Fraser said he couldn't

1545
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 25: coach this year, mcdermer should have got out and got

1546
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 25: another defensive coordinator. He knew it before the season, Star.

1547
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 25: I mean, this is this is just absolutely terrible that

1548
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 25: this team beat us yesterday. There's no reason for it,

1549
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 25: all right. And another thing, and one more thing, Sir

1550
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 25: Steve's like last a couple of years back when the

1551
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 25: Titans game and Steve said, well, there's an official up

1552
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 25: in the booth, Well, why didn't the officials stick his

1553
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 25: nose in yesterday and say you can't pick up a

1554
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 25: flag once you're throwing a flag. It is what it is.

1555
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 25: I'll hang up and listen, gentlemen.

1556
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Zach, I'm gonna let Steve handle the

1557
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: no play calling imagination on offense and the other question

1558
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: that he asked you about the officials.

1559
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 4: Well, the officials from up in the set, they're only

1560
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 4: allowed to do what they're allowed to do. I mean,

1561
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 4: they can't confirm a penalty unless it's a possession penalty,

1562
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 4: like a drop pass or something, or inbounds or something

1563
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 4: like that, or a spot of the ball. They can't

1564
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 4: tell them like, hey, that was a good guess. So

1565
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 4: he's not allowed to do that. The lack of imaginating,

1566
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the same imagination that had the games

1567
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 4: that you mentioned against you know, Washington, the Raiders, and

1568
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 4: the Dolphins. I mean it's the same offensive staff. You can't, Yeah,

1569
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 4: you can't have it both ways. And so I'm and yeah,

1570
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 4: you can say, you know, you're you can say what

1571
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 4: you want. You can't have it both ways on the

1572
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 4: defensive coaching staff either. Either they shouldn't have gotten the play,

1573
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 4: the big play to start the drive to get them

1574
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 4: off the field and the final drive one to fifty three.

1575
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 4: It should have been a penalty or you know, you

1576
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 4: can't you're you're you're gonna or they're playing better defense.

1577
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: I mean that that the defense for the Buffalo Bills

1578
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: has played really well all the way up until yesterday

1579
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 4: when they allowed the Patriots to do what they did.

1580
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 4: They almost and even to your words, they should have

1581
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 4: gotten out with a win yesterday if the penalty wouldn't

1582
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 4: flag wouldn't have been picked up. So be that as

1583
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 4: it may. I don't think there's anything wrong with the

1584
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator of this team right now.

1585
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll just say this. Going into the game,

1586
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: the Bills were tired for the league lead in sacks,

1587
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 2: and you say, well, why didn't they blitz them? Why

1588
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: didn't they get to them. I'm gonna tell you why

1589
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: they weren't in a position to do so, And in

1590
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: the few instances they were, they did get sacks. And

1591
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: I'll run it down for you. First drive for the Patriots,

1592
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: they had one third down on their opening drive. It

1593
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,839
Speaker 2: was a third and four and the Bills got to stop,

1594
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: but because they gave up chunk plays on the drive,

1595
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 2: it ends up in a field goal drive. Second possession,

1596
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: only one third down after the interception by Peppers, it

1597
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: was a third and one. They converted it. They score

1598
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 2: a touchdown on that drive. The next drive, there is

1599
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: one third down. It's a third and nine. The Bills

1600
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: get the stop and they force a punt. The next possession,

1601
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: there is only one third down on the entire drive.

1602
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 2: It's a third and ten. They don't convert, but because

1603
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: of the field position, thanks to a twenty five yard

1604
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: punt return, they kick a field goal. It still points

1605
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 2: even though they get off the field. Two third downs,

1606
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: a third and one they converted, a third and two

1607
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: they don't convert. But of course, again because they're getting

1608
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 2: chunk plays, they get a field goal out of the drive,

1609
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: and then one third down it's a third and eleven,

1610
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 2: they blitz. Poyer gets the sack, but they still get

1611
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: a field goal because they gave up three chunk plays

1612
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: on the drive. And I can go down the rest

1613
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: of the list for the rest of the game, but

1614
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: the bottom line is this. The Patriots stayed on schedule,

1615
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: so there was never too many There was no more

1616
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: than three opportunities for the Bills to call a blitz

1617
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: because they weren't in third and long almost the entire game.

1618
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Chunk plays were the problem. They gave them up the

1619
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: entire game against a team that ranked thirty first in

1620
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 2: the league in plays of ten yards or more and

1621
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: twenty yards or more. They could not tackle and they

1622
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: did not cover well, and they gave up big plays

1623
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: because of it. And that was a domino effect because

1624
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: now they're not in a blitz situation. That's why they

1625
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: didn't get sacks yesterday with the same regularity that we've

1626
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 2: seen all season long.

1627
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are only two sacks in the game, one

1628
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 4: by Poyer and one by bar More on each quarterback,

1629
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 4: one on each quarterback, and so it wasn't one of

1630
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 4: those games like that. So yeah, that's and that Sean

1631
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 4: McDermott has gotten as a good a pedigree as a

1632
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 4: defensive coordinators anybody in the league. That's why he got

1633
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 4: the head coaching job of the Buffalo Bills and rebuilt

1634
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 4: their program.

1635
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Here.

1636
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: He knows what he's doing offense. And by the way, too,

1637
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 4: I know it's commonplay. I mean, we come in after

1638
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 4: a game like this, Brown and I come in ready

1639
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: to do the show. We know we're gonna get a

1640
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 4: ton of calls, and if the offense sputters at all,

1641
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 4: somebody is always gonna say fire Ken Dorsey. I got

1642
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 4: news for you, folks. They're not going to fire either

1643
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 4: of the coordinators. Not during the season anyway. If you

1644
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 4: if you fire start firing coaches mid season or even

1645
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 4: late in the season, that means you've given up on

1646
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: that season.

1647
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: You are.

1648
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: You know, well, I'm not saying you're tanking, but you're

1649
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 4: saying it just is not gonna work work. We're waving

1650
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 4: the white flag on this entire season. Nobody's ready to

1651
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 4: do that, not at four and three. No, I don't

1652
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 4: think Bills fans are ready to do that. Maybe they are.

1653
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna get calls now, they're gonna say, yeah,

1654
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm waving the white flag. We're not gonna go anywhere

1655
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 4: this year. I don't think any any lucid person is

1656
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: gonna be in that camp day because nobody is thrown

1657
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 4: in the towel on the season right now. So don't

1658
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 4: think that your calls for Ken Dorsey to be fired

1659
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 4: today are gonna be listened to, because it's nobody's giving

1660
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 4: up on the season, and that's what you would be

1661
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 4: doing now.

1662
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but Mark and our Orchard

1663
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Park will lead us off when we come back, and

1664
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 2: we'll get to as many as we can holding at

1665
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,640
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1666
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Speaker 2: phones we go and to Mark in Orchard Park. What

1676
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Mark?

1677
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 26: How are you guys today?

1678
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: We're hanging in there. Man.

1679
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 6: Oh, I know use.

1680
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 26: Of getting battered, and I have been quiet for the

1681
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 26: last few weeks, so I understand that. And the you know,

1682
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 26: my main thing is is it comes down to you know,

1683
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 26: we did make a lot of mistakes yesterday from penalties

1684
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 26: the drop passes, but it all comes back to coaching.

1685
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 26: Those things have to be straightened out from the top

1686
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 26: to the bottom. My main thing I don't like seeing

1687
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 26: right now is they're basically stripping Alan of the dual

1688
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 26: threat capabilities.

1689
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 11: That he has.

1690
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 26: He's one of the He's a Michael Vick, He's a

1691
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 26: Cam Newton. He does not do that anymore. And I

1692
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 26: know that they don't want to put him into harm's way.

1693
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 26: But when we run all these two tight end sets,

1694
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 26: I think we're maybe one of the highest in the NFL.

1695
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 26: We don't need to do this. The other thing I

1696
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 26: want to say is we brought in guys to help

1697
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 26: Josh Allen. We brought in Hardy. He's the sixth highest

1698
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 26: paid player on the Buffalo Bills. When he is out

1699
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 26: there and does have opportunities, you see what he can do.

1700
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 26: Why are these guys not being put out? And I

1701
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 26: think Sekure needs to be put out out of the

1702
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 26: field all so, and I'll let you go with that.

1703
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. I get it. You're not the first

1704
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 2: person to say, you know, let Josh be Josh. And

1705
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they get to a point where they

1706
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: take the bridle off and say, yep, you know what,

1707
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: if you think you can make a play with your legs,

1708
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: go do it. It could change. I'm not anticipating it,

1709
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: but I do think they have to find other answers

1710
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: to make this offense more productive, more efficient earlier in games.

1711
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: So that's on the coaching staff to come up with

1712
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: those answers.

1713
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the fact that and once again we'll say

1714
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 4: we're having this conversation, we've seen him do it. We've

1715
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 4: seen this group do that. Three of the games, you know,

1716
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 4: weeks two through four, they were all about it. You

1717
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 4: got to find a way to get that back.

1718
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 2: Yep. Let's go to Jane in Cassadega. What do you

1719
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: got for us?

1720
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 27: Jane, Good morning, guys. I want to say something positive here.

1721
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 27: My husband and I are both retired and we watch

1722
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 27: you guys every day for years now, and you're like part.

1723
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 9: Of the family.

1724
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate that. That's nice to say, Oh, we.

1725
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 27: Really appreciate you to the game. My husband laughed at

1726
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 27: me because I know everything about every football player, but

1727
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 27: I don't know what's going on on the field all

1728
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 27: the time, but I do know the important things. I

1729
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 27: think you know everything you and see. But I just

1730
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 27: want to kind of give my own little opinion here.

1731
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 27: It just seems to me that if these guys, you know,

1732
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 27: they're they're of course they have to change their schemes

1733
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 27: and their play patterns and everything from time to time.

1734
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 27: If they didn't, then you know, it wouldn't work. But

1735
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 27: my question is when they, especially you know, and I

1736
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 27: know the coaches in in one sense kind of bowed

1737
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 27: to the critics, you know, or not bout to the

1738
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 27: Critics's probably strong in the language. But they try to

1739
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 27: change things up, you know, because they want the team

1740
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 27: to win, and because the fans are the biggest critics,

1741
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 27: you know, and if you know they're constantly changing things

1742
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 27: with the players as far as what they're supposed to

1743
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 27: do when they go out there before any on any

1744
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 27: given Sunday. How much do you guys feel that it

1745
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 27: affects the players when their their teams are changed so much,

1746
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 27: you know, and their play patterns.

1747
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay, we're happy to answer that.

1748
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 27: Jane, I can I can hang up and listen to you.

1749
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you, Jane. I appreciate the question. When

1750
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: when you hear them say they change things, it means

1751
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 2: that they lean towards other plays that are still within

1752
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: their playbook. They don't go outside of it. Now, the

1753
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 2: playbook is a voluminous thing that looks like war in peace,

1754
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: and they only are taking portions of that to put

1755
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 2: into their game plan each and every week. And maybe

1756
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: they go into different areas of that playbook. But when

1757
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: you hear them changing things up, they're just choosing things

1758
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: from their big menu to begin with. They don't go

1759
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 2: outside of it. Very rarely they do. Now, there may

1760
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 2: be an occasion where an offensive coordinator sees a play

1761
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 2: that another team runs elsewhere in the league, and they'll say, Ooh,

1762
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 2: I think that'll work with the personnel that we have

1763
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 2: in this situation. They may put a play like that in,

1764
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 2: but it's a single play and they'll rep it all

1765
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 2: week and then try to find a time and place

1766
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: to use it in the course of the game. That

1767
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 2: can happen, right, Yeah, yes, that's what But beyond that,

1768
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 2: it's usually everything's contained in their playbook from the jump.

1769
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 4: Yes, they have all this stuff in their playbook. And

1770
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 4: what will happen is is they get deeper and deeper

1771
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 4: into it, and they get guys that are more steeped

1772
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 4: in the offense, they'll be able to say, Okay, this time,

1773
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 4: we're going to run that exact same play, but Dalton

1774
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 4: Kincaid is going to run the route that Steph Diggs

1775
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 4: ran last time, and Diggs's going to run the route

1776
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 4: that gave Davis ran the last time, and Davis's going

1777
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 4: to move to where Kinkaid was. So they're gonna run

1778
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 4: the same play out of different and to the defense

1779
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 4: it looks very different because they have these different guys

1780
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 4: out there, but it's the same play. Or they'll run

1781
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 4: they'll run a play the same play again with different

1782
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 4: personnel on the field. They'll aut of three tight ends

1783
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 4: rather than five wide, or they'll flip the formation, or

1784
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 4: they'll run it right or left. Yeah, And what will

1785
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 4: happen is every team's got some stuff they like to run,

1786
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 4: some concepts they like to run. And some of them

1787
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 4: are basic. You know, corner flat routes with a cover

1788
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 4: two thing all that, and some people won't know what

1789
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 4: that means, but it's element. What will happen is you're

1790
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 4: gonna run those concepts. But this week we'll say we're

1791
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: gonna give it a tagline, like a different word, and

1792
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 4: you can just say bubble, or you can say pack,

1793
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 4: or you can say pick your word, you can pick

1794
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 4: your dog's name. And when you say that play with

1795
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 4: that tag word, it means you're gonna run it differently.

1796
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 4: You're gonna run the route different you're gonna run it

1797
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 4: with a different consideration, You're to run it with a

1798
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 4: different option. So like on one play, you got Steph

1799
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 4: Diggs running this route and instead of breaking in, he's

1800
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 4: gonna break out or he's gonna break deep when you

1801
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 4: add that tagword, So it's the same play for everybody

1802
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 4: on the field, except if you add a tagword, one

1803
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 4: guy or two guys or four guys are gonna do

1804
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 4: something different, and it's specifically for that team that you're

1805
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 4: playing that week. So that when they say change things up,

1806
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 4: basically that's what they're talking about. Now, when fans say

1807
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 4: change things up, they mean fire that coach and hire

1808
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 4: this other guy, or they mean trade this player or

1809
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 4: bench this player. That's what I'm That's what most fans

1810
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 4: when they change things up. But when you get into

1811
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 4: the season of the NFL, that's what changing up means.

1812
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 4: Inside the locker room, they're they're committed to each other.

1813
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 4: They're not talking about getting They may be talking about, hey,

1814
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 4: let's give this guy some reps. He's playing really good.

1815
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 4: Let's get him on the field. Some of that stuff's

1816
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 4: going on, but they're not they're not chucking anybody overboard.

1817
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: Break time for us here because we begin our number

1818
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: three with my broadcast partner. It is The Bill's Radio

1819
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Network color analyst and former Bill Center Eric Wood, joining

1820
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 2: us for his thoughts from the booth on yesterday's game

1821
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: in Foxborough. That's coming up an hour number three here

1822
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Coalida Health, It's Buffalo

1823
01:35:42,800 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: Bill's Radio.

1824
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

1825
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: All Right, our number three here on a Buffalo Football Monday.

1826
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and happy to be

1827
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: joined now by Bill's radio color analyst, former Bill Center

1828
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 2: Eric Wood as he joins us every Monday for his

1829
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: thoughts from the booth on the performance that was Eric.

1830
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 2: I know you noticed this and mentioned it on the broadcast.

1831
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 2: The swing passes to the backs by the Patriots were

1832
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 2: a huge problem in the first half. They I kind

1833
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: of corrected it. The Bills did defensively in the second half,

1834
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 2: but plenty of chunk plays coming off of those calls.

1835
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: There's a part of me that wonders why the Bills

1836
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: haven't done that more. But why don't we just speak

1837
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 2: to the effectiveness of the Patriots with it yesterday?

1838
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 28: Yeah, it seemed like they identified a mismatch if they

1839
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,480
Speaker 28: could get their backs out in space on the exterior,

1840
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 28: which likely with a two hundred and thirty pound running

1841
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 28: back isn't going to be a pitch play maybe from

1842
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,799
Speaker 28: under center. It was those swing passes so you get

1843
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 28: you know, either of your two hundred and thirty pound

1844
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 28: running backs going downhill towards corners and maybe your nickel

1845
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 28: on the outside, and they were able to be effective

1846
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 28: with that, and you ask why so generally with New England,

1847
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 28: this is a Bill Belichick staple, and this is you know,

1848
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 28: kind of a three to four defense philosophy as well.

1849
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 28: They'll have their outside pass rusher. If you do a

1850
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 28: swing route to your back, they'll peel their defensive end

1851
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 28: towards him and then fire one of their linebackers to

1852
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 28: replace him in the rush. And so it doesn't work

1853
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 28: first every team, but with the Bills, defensive ends getting

1854
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 28: up the field. We see in aj Apanessa bat those

1855
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 28: balls at times getting the passing lanes. But it could

1856
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 28: be tough on those corners on the outside because you're

1857
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 28: trying to play normal pass coverage. You're not recognizing necessarily

1858
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 28: that it's a swing pass right off the bat and

1859
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 28: so by the time you realize it, now you have

1860
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 28: a two hundred and thirty pound running back coming full

1861
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 28: head of steam at you.

1862
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 22: And they were effective against the Bills yesterday.

1863
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 2: What do you.

1864
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 4: Think the reason for the Patriots' success offensively? You know,

1865
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 4: the Brownie recounted for us. They rarely got into third

1866
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 4: down on some of the drivers, almost every third and long,

1867
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 4: and they scored twenty nine points in a season where

1868
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 4: they averaged twelve. What was the difference yesterday? Certainly the

1869
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 4: Bill's injuries on the defensive front might have been somewhat contributory.

1870
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:50,839
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts.

1871
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 28: Well, I'll say this, this Bill's defense plays better with

1872
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 28: the lead, and that's not surprising. Most defenses in the

1873
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 28: NFL played better with the lead. But when you're playing

1874
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 28: a team like New England that they come in as

1875
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 28: an underdog, they're trying to suck the life out of

1876
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 28: the game.

1877
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 22: They're running the ball.

1878
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 28: It's swing passes, it's short passes to the outside. Well,

1879
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 28: when you are playing with the lead and the Patriots

1880
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 28: top up ten to nothing quick, they get a field

1881
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 28: goal and a touchdown on those first two drives after

1882
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 28: they get the ball to start the game, Josh Allen

1883
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 28: throws to pick the first play of the game. They

1884
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 28: find themselves up ten to nothing, they can just stick

1885
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 28: with that game plan and because of that, they were

1886
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 28: able to stay in some pretty favorable down and distance

1887
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 28: throughout the game. Now, if the Bills were able to

1888
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 28: score early and a lot of their issues over the

1889
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 28: last three games comes because of these really slow starts

1890
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 28: by the offense. Well, it makes it a lot harder

1891
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 28: on a defense. You mentioned the injuries, and that's just

1892
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 28: that's something the Bills are gonna have to deal with

1893
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 28: this the rest of this year. Daikwan Jones may or

1894
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 28: may not come back, but he's not back.

1895
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 22: For a while.

1896
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 28: Matt Mlano's out, Tredevius Whites out, Ed Oliver is out

1897
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 28: the last game, and they're sure to deal with some

1898
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 28: injuries throughout the rest of the season. Von Miller only

1899
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 28: played six snaps yesterday. He's obviously not back from this

1900
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 28: ACL injury. All those injuries on defense aside, I think

1901
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 28: this defense has enough horses to be able to really

1902
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 28: be able to affect an offense if they're playing. The

1903
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 28: Bills are playing with the lead. Now, we've seen the

1904
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 28: last few weeks that when a team could get up

1905
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 28: on them. Okay, now, we're just going to keep the

1906
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 28: ball on the ground. We are going to take these

1907
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 28: you know, kind of free access throws, and we're not

1908
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 28: really in any rush and we're not super concerned with

1909
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 28: a big play.

1910
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 22: We're going to try and control this game.

1911
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 4: All right.

1912
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: So all that being said, there were a lot of

1913
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: chunk plays that the Patriots had yesterday. This is a

1914
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 2: team that ranked thirty first in ten plus yard plays

1915
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 2: and thirty first in twenty plus yard plays. I think

1916
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 2: they had ten plays of twenty yards or more in

1917
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: their first six games. They had five yesterday. Do you

1918
01:40:55,479 --> 01:41:01,839
Speaker 2: attribute that to poor fundamentals like tackling, missd assignments like coverage,

1919
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 2: because I think we saw examples of each of those

1920
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 2: things yesterday through the course of the defensive performance.

1921
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1922
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 28: One of them was a jet sweep by Douglas, and

1923
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 28: the Bills have been susceptible to those this year. And

1924
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 28: at times you're seeing guys besides von Miller, playing a

1925
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 28: two point stand so that they can recognize that motion

1926
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 28: coming from the opposite side, so that they can adjust

1927
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 28: the defensive ends can adjust the way they're going up

1928
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 28: the field to stop that. But on that particular play,

1929
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 28: I believe aj Apanessa was the defensive end of that

1930
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 28: side and he was in a three point stand, so

1931
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 28: he doesn't see it coming.

1932
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 22: Douglas is off to the races.

1933
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 28: He picks up twenty there, and then I think most

1934
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 28: of the rest of the chunk plays came as a

1935
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 28: result of the Bills not being able to stop the

1936
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,759
Speaker 28: run well early on in the game, without Ed Oliver,

1937
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 28: without Daikwan Jones inside they were without Mat Milano, They're

1938
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 28: more susceptible in the run game on defense, and so

1939
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 28: because of that, now you're dictating more bodies, your linebackers

1940
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 28: are playing downhill and so it's play action. You had

1941
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 28: the Douglas play across the middle, you had the one

1942
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 28: long one towards the tight end at the end of

1943
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 28: the game, and then we already mentioned the swing passes,

1944
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 28: and so I think part of it is the run defense.

1945
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 22: Struggling early then makes you more susceptible to the bigger plays.

1946
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 4: Give us an idea because we've been having a conversation

1947
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 4: with the fans. Got a lot of calls today about

1948
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 4: how to get the Bills offense to start faster. And

1949
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 4: we've got stuff like go no huddle, go spread them out,

1950
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 4: put different people in the game, fire Kin Dorsey. All

1951
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 4: that stuff is all you know, it's all been brought up.

1952
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on, you know, when an offense

1953
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 4: needs to get off to a little bit of a

1954
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 4: faster start or whatever. We even had somebody say, hey,

1955
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 4: listen when you win the coin flip, take the ball

1956
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 4: first instead of letting them have the ball first. What

1957
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 4: do you think is the cure for the symptom of

1958
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 4: slow starts.

1959
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 22: Real quick. I'll get to that in a second.

1960
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 28: I was actually thinking about the coin toss too, because

1961
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 28: the Bills get the ball first against the Dolphins and

1962
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 28: really put pressure.

1963
01:42:58,360 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 22: You know, they go right down the field.

1964
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 28: And score, and then they get the ball a second

1965
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 28: possession score, and that puts pressure on an opposing team.

1966
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,879
Speaker 28: I'm not saying that, you know, deferring the ball throughout

1967
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 28: history and when you win the coin toss has shown

1968
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 28: a slightly higher winning percentage just based upon that two

1969
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 28: for one opportunity that you can get and sometimes steal

1970
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 28: an extra possession having the ball at the end of

1971
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 28: the half, and then getting the ball to start the

1972
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 28: second half. But you know, so it wouldn't surprise me

1973
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 28: to see maybe this week the Bill say hey, look,

1974
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 28: let's put our offense out on the field, and let's

1975
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 28: get them out there first. I just had Ryan Fitzpatrick

1976
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 28: on my Center on Buffalo podcast, which will release tomorrow.

1977
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 28: We had this conversation about starting fast and offense, and

1978
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:42,440
Speaker 28: we were recollecting about times where either we as Bill's teammates,

1979
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 28: started slow on offense and it becomes a thing, or

1980
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 28: when he was in Miami, he said one week, Brian Flores,

1981
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 28: all week it was fast, our fast, our fast, our

1982
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 28: first play the game, Fitz throws a pick and he's like, man,

1983
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 28: that was a tough jog to the sideline. But and

1984
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 28: I say all that, and I tell that story because

1985
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 28: sometimes when especially when you're good like this, Bill's offense

1986
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 28: is still good and they are successful at times, so

1987
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 28: it's a timing thing.

1988
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 22: Why are they starting slow?

1989
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 28: And it's almost like we've made such a big issue

1990
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 28: out of it, and internally they understand this as well.

1991
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 28: This isn't a you know, media sculpted attacked on the Bills.

1992
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 28: They're averaging three point three yards per game in the

1993
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 28: first half the last three games, and it wouldn't be

1994
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 28: that big of a deal if they didn't have such

1995
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 28: a potent offense with so many weapons, and so it's

1996
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 28: kind of become a thing, and it's you know, I

1997
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 28: mentioned last week, it's self scouting, figuring out what you

1998
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 28: do well and then starting off the game with that.

1999
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 22: Well, where do they start the game with? Last week?

2000
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 28: Under center play action, which has been so good for them,

2001
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,679
Speaker 28: and Josh just doesn't see Peppers drop off his assignment

2002
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 28: to Dawson knocks. If he sees that early, he dumps

2003
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 28: it down to the flat and they pick up a

2004
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 28: first down on the pass to Can. I believe it

2005
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 28: was Kincaid in the flat, and so if Josh sees

2006
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 28: him drop off, then they get a first down and

2007
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 28: they're already moving the ball. Instead it's an interception and

2008
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 28: the Bills go down ten to nothing. And so, regardless

2009
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 28: of what they need to do as an offense, I

2010
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 28: just feel like at times they're not aggressive enough. I know,

2011
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 28: you miss the deep shot down the field of digs yesterday,

2012
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 28: which could have changed the narrative of this game. And

2013
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 28: you know, you get the touchdown wiped out by the

2014
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 28: offensive PI, you got the Dawson Knox drop on fourth

2015
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 28: to two, or we're having a completely different conversation here today.

2016
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 28: But I just feel like this offense just has to

2017
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 28: get a touch more aggressive. And that can sometimes be

2018
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 28: counterintuitive when you're just trying to make first downs at

2019
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 28: the start of games and get off to a smoother

2020
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 28: starting to get into a rhythm.

2021
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 22: But you know they've kind of let this like too.

2022
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 28: High shell concept that's been coming across the NFL to

2023
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 28: try and limit these big plays. To me, it just

2024
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 28: seems like it's taken away some of their aggressiveness. And

2025
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 28: I understand that sometimes being aggressive is easier when you're

2026
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 28: in a flow of an offense, which they're not getting

2027
01:45:58,560 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 28: into in the first half of games.

2028
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 2: You already mentioned von Miller in the fact that he

2029
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 2: only got six snaps. I did happen to notice, although

2030
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 2: I didn't mention it on the broadcast. I saw he

2031
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 2: was the last guy out after halftime and he had

2032
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 2: a ball cap on and he didn't have his helmet,

2033
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 2: and I thought about it then real quick, like, h

2034
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 2: he might be done for the day, And that pretty

2035
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 2: much proved to be the case. Do you think, and

2036
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 2: we don't know, obviously, Eric, what his situation is. Maybe

2037
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott passes along some information on his status concerning

2038
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 2: this week's game when he addresses the media at five

2039
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,440
Speaker 2: o'clock today, But do you see that as a potential

2040
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 2: positive meaning he barely played on Sunday, so bringing him

2041
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 2: back on Thursday is a real possibility, or you know,

2042
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to be negative, but do you fear

2043
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 2: maybe something happened and they shut him down.

2044
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 28: I think something happened they shut him down. That's what

2045
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 28: it appeared like to me. With the game on the line,

2046
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 28: Vonn's gonna want it to be out there pass rushing,

2047
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 28: you know, that final drive. That's what you bring von

2048
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 28: Miller in for in an obvious pass situation for the Patriots,

2049
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 28: try to have to drive the length of the field.

2050
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 28: That's where you want your Hall of Fame pass rusher.

2051
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 28: So I assumed something happened there, And you know, we

2052
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 28: were talking about it on the broadcast and during TV

2053
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 28: time outside we realized that von wasn't playing that much.

2054
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 28: I just didn't realize it was only six snaps. We've

2055
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 28: seen him out on the field early in the game,

2056
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 28: and so I mean, this is just an assumption. I mean,

2057
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 28: you just have to assume that he kind of tweaked something.

2058
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 28: I saw a video earlier to day. It looked like

2059
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 28: he was limping around a little bit before he came off.

2060
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 28: But you know, I just feel like with von Miller,

2061
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 28: you know, he he looked fine those first couple appearances

2062
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 28: he made, and then today or yesterday, you know, he

2063
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 28: comes out after six plays, and you know, hopefully nothing

2064
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 28: drastic happened, and if he can't play Thursday, that's fine.

2065
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 28: I mean we want von Miller December and January and

2066
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 28: hopefully February fully healthy and making a humongous impact. And look,

2067
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 28: I mean Gregor so A and Essa, they're playing really

2068
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 28: good football right now. Leonard Floyd is playing outstanding and

2069
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 28: so you have three solid pass rushers there that you

2070
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 28: don't necessarily need him to come back until he's fully

2071
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 28: ready to go.

2072
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 4: So as you see a short week, give us a

2073
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 4: little idea about how much effort and prep and change

2074
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 4: to the routine. Obviously, they're gonna have two days of practice,

2075
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 4: one today, one tomorrow, or they might have tomorrow off

2076
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 4: as well, like they usually do on a Tuesday. I

2077
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 4: don't know, they might.

2078
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 2: Have today off actually.

2079
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 4: Either way, give us an idea of the schedule and

2080
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 4: what it means for this Thursday night game coming up.

2081
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 28: Yeah, I believe the rules are still the same and

2082
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 28: they'll pretty much just work from here through the game.

2083
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 28: And I say through the game, because even Wednesday will

2084
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 28: include walkthroughs and extra prep on the game, just to

2085
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 28: steal some time with a night game. And so I

2086
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 28: used to enjoy Thursday night football games because I felt

2087
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 28: like I could prepare myself mentally and physically, and I

2088
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 28: would take it more serious maybe than others, and put

2089
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 28: in the time to do it, and you know, kind

2090
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 28: of start prep even before the previous game, watching my

2091
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 28: nutrition and hydration and everything to where, you know, as

2092
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 28: soon as the game ends, I'm hopping in the cold

2093
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 28: tub and I'm you know, just trying to get right

2094
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 28: for that next game. And you can try and catch

2095
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 28: an advantage that way by being you know, everyone wants

2096
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 28: to complain about Thursday night football on how hard it

2097
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 28: is to prepare for it, but we all got to

2098
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 28: do it, so there's no point in complaining about it. Like,

2099
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 28: just try and catch an advantage anyway you can. And

2100
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 28: so these guys today will likely, I would assume they're

2101
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 28: gonna put you got to watch the film from yesterday

2102
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 28: because you got to learn from it, But then put

2103
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 28: that one to bed quickly, and they're already moving on

2104
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 28: to game planning for the Buccaneers here today and then

2105
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 28: practice tomorrow, practice Wednesday, and when I say practice, it

2106
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 28: won't be in past probably not even helmets.

2107
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:45,639
Speaker 22: Those two days.

2108
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 28: Walk through Wednesday, and then get ready to roll, and

2109
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 28: you gotta have this one this week.

2110
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. Eric, Thanks as always for

2111
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 2: the insight and your thoughts on that one. We'll catch

2112
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 2: up with you next week.

2113
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 22: Sounds good. Looking forward to it, all right.

2114
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 2: Eric Wood joining us Bill's radio color analyst former Bill

2115
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: Center with his thoughts on Bill's Patriots yesterday. We do

2116
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 2: want to get back to the phones at eight oh

2117
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

2118
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 2: five fifty where we have people waiting patiently and try

2119
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 2: to get to each and every one a year. We

2120
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 2: go to debbian Hamburg next. What do you got first, Debbie?

2121
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: You're one Bill's Live.

2122
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 29: Oh, good afternoon, gentlemen. Just a few comments about yesterday's

2123
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 29: game that I noticed, And the first one is, you know,

2124
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 29: the defensive plan that New England had, it seemed like

2125
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 29: they really, you know, got got to Josh you know,

2126
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 29: up the middle a little bit more pressure. So I

2127
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 29: don't know if that's necessarily, you know, our issue if

2128
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 29: we didn't adjust to that, but they seem to, you know,

2129
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 29: with key players being out, they seem to still get

2130
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 29: to Josh.

2131
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 12: Uh.

2132
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 29: The second point is, you know, we have a great

2133
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 29: offense and we have great weapons and you know, I

2134
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 29: know we got the ball to quite a few people yesterday,

2135
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 29: but I'd love to see more, you know, from Trent Suerfield.

2136
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 29: I think he'd be dynamic player. And I don't know,

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Speaker 29: it seems like when we play those teams that really

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01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 29: give us pressure on Josh early, they seem to abandon,

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01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 29: you know, some other plays. It seems like we're all

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01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 29: of a sudden in shotgun and you know, Josh is

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01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 29: throwing it down the field and you know, the defense

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01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 29: knows what's going on. So I think we have great coaches.

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01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 29: I don't think that's the issue, but just maybe having

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Speaker 29: more consistent play. I'll hang up and you know, see

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01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 29: what you have to say and go bills.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Stebbie. All good thoughts, I think, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The rush. The pass rush by the Patriots was notable yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I talked about it before it even came

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01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 2: on the air, and it was a little bit alarming

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01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 2: knowing that they did not have their top two pass

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01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,839
Speaker 2: rushers in the game, namely Matthew Judon who's on IR

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01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 2: and Josh Ucha who was out with an injury this week.

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01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 2: Those are your best two pass rushers. They each have

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01:51:55,400 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: four sacks coming in. You know, on the season, nobody

2155
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: else had more than one on the entire Patriots defense.

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01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 2: And yet they did force him out of the pocket.

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01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 2: They forced him to get on the move to avoid sacks,

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01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: and Josh did a good job of that. But the

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Speaker 2: battle at the line of scrimmage in terms of pass

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01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 2: protection was spotty.

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Speaker 4: Right, and I think too the Patriots had a plan

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01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 4: that was unlined. We spoke about it on Bill's Tonight

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01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: with Maddie Glad. The Patriots pressured Josh a lot with

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01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 4: extra people. A lot of people thought wow. The offensive

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01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 4: line was they were sending extra people too many to

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01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:37,799
Speaker 4: block at times, and they did it situationally to great effect.

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01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 4: And also their players played with a lot of discipline.

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Speaker 4: You remember the bootleg where Josh did. They did a

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01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 4: hard play action under center to the left side of

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Speaker 4: the offense. Josh reaches out, pulls the ball back and

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01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 4: it's going to boot back to the right and the

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01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 4: corner from the opposite side is coming off the edge.

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01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 4: He's right in his face right as he turns his

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Speaker 4: eyes around.

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01:52:58,800 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 2: They got into that.

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01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got out of it, but the play was

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01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 4: non inconsequential because of that pressure. So the Patriots did

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01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 4: a great job of keeping Josh under duress all the time,

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01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 4: and I think part of it what empowered them to

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01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 4: do that was their observation that Josh doesn't want to

2181
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 4: run anymore, or you know, I'm over exaggerating, but they

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01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 4: just don't feel like Josh is going to take off

2183
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 4: and hurt him like he has in the past, and

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01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 4: they gambled that he wouldn't do it, and they were

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01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 4: right in a lot of situations. Now, they only got

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01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 4: one sack on him, so they really didn't get him

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01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 4: on the ground, but they were in his face all.

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01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,839
Speaker 2: Day, affected the quarterback, and he'd safe to say.

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01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 4: And Josh didn't run. Yeah, Josh didn't run.

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01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve in Rochester actually got for a

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Speaker 2: Steve Hi.

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Speaker 30: I was just I had one positive thought. I thought,

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01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 30: every one of our losses, it seems like it's not

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01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 30: like the other team that figured something out about us.

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01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 30: It's just seem like we're beating ourselves. So I guess

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01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 30: I fuck that. It's kind of a positive. And then

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Speaker 30: I had a question about at the end of the

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01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 30: game when we scored, I thought maybe we should have

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Speaker 30: considered taking that penalty instead of declining. That would have

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01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 30: given us an extra down, and maybe we could have

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Speaker 30: worked for time off the clock since it was right

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01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 30: on the two minute warning, and instead of giving the

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01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 30: ball back to the Patriots with one point fifty three,

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 30: they may have had to bring some more time or

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01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 30: time out. I didn't know what you guys thought about that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Steve, you want to take that interesting question.

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Speaker 4: I was going over this last night trying to get

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01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 4: my mind abound exactly what it was. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was either the ball at the two yard line

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01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 2: legal contact right, and the Bills were at the four,

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01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 2: so would have been to two. It would have been

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01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 2: half the distance, so it would have been first in

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01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: goal at the two. The play gave them the ball

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Speaker 2: at the six inch line after the reception by Latavius Murray,

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01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 2: which incidentally was never reviewed to see if he broke

2216
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 2: the play the goal line in the first place. I

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01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: thought it was extremely close to being a touchdown on

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01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 2: its own. Sean McDermott talked to the officials and he

2219
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 2: ultimately decides to take the play, decline the penalty to

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01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 2: get it on the six inch line.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, still just second down on the six inch

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Speaker 4: line instead of first down on the two yard line.

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01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 4: Red zone yards are hard to come by.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know you've got the gimmey sneak on

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01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 2: the sixth inch.

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01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 4: Line, you've got the gimmey sneak. But it's an interesting question.

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Speaker 4: The way that game was going offensively, it would have

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01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 4: taken a big courageous decision by Sean McDermott to take

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01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 4: the two yards back and then waste a play to

2230
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 4: take time off the clock. I know you're not saying

2231
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 4: waste to go ahead and score if you can, but

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01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 4: if you waste a play, you get more time off

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01:55:56,360 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 4: the clock, taking less time, making less time for the Patriots.

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01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 4: Gutsy move that would have been given the way the

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01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 4: offense had played up to that point in the game.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the right decision. I understand the

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01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: clock concern.

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Speaker 4: I had not thought about the clock concern.

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01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 2: So maybe a take off forty seconds so instead of

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Speaker 2: one forty three left thirteen, it's one thirteen. The Patriots,

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01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 2: if I remember right, had two timeouts remaining for that

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01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 2: last drive, so they still had the ability to stop

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01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 2: the clock and they only needed three to tie to

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01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 2: force overtime, they didn't have to have a touchdown. Necessarily,

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01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 2: you need to touchdown to win, but they can still

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 2: extend the game even with a field goal. So I

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01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 2: think you got to focus on getting the ball in

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01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 2: the end zone. And I think it might not sound

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01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 2: like much of a difference. To me, it is between

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Speaker 2: the two yard line and the six inch line, because

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Speaker 2: now you can use the gimme play that works probably

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01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: better than any other play the Bills run on offense,

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01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 2: and that's the Josh Allen sneak for a first down

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01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 2: or a touchdown, right, and it worked. So as for

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Speaker 2: your other comment, like, hey, the good news is we

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Speaker 2: only lose if we beat ourselves, and it's usually just

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01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 2: by one score. While that may be true, I don't

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01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 2: think the Bills want to be good at that. And

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01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 2: now they've done that four out of seven games. They've

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01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 2: helped other teams beat them, and yes it's still a

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01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: one score game, but it's still a loss. And now

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01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 2: it's happened where they help the other team four times.

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01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 2: Fortunately they've only lost three of those four. But yeah,

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01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 2: they've got to get on the right side of that

2265
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 2: because they cannot continue to be the best helper for

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01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 2: their opponent each and every.

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Speaker 4: Week has been That has been the personality of this

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01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 4: team since twenty twenty. They lose game, it's close. They

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 4: win a game a lot of times by double digits.

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01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 4: They've won some close games two as well. But when

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01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 4: they lose a game, they help the team a lot

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01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 4: with turnovers, mostly because Josh. When Josh is playing Josh

2273
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 4: kind of ball, we know, we got to live with turnovers.

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01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 4: And it wouldn't be any different now if the team

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01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 4: was scoring points, but they have. They've struggled to score

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01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 4: points in the last three or four weeks. So when

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01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 4: you're scoring points, I don't care if you're turning the

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01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 4: ball over. But that's kind of the spot you're in

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01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 4: when you're when you're playing the way they're playing at

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01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 4: this point.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

2282
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 2: calls when we come back. So if you're holding at

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Speaker 2: eight h three oh five fifty, stay where you are.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to you when we return here on a

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Speaker 2: of your Buffalo bills. Got to get back to the

2290
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 2: phones as we're getting your takeaways from yesterday's disappointing twenty

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01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 2: nine to twenty five loss to the hated New England Patriots.

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go, and we lead off

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01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 2: here with Anthony and Niagara Falls. What do you got, Anthony,

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01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 2: you're doing today? Doing all right? Hanging in there?

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01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 8: Well, first off, you know, we all know yesterday's lost

2296
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 8: wasn't pretty whatsoever. But the one play that I think

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 8: just like did it for us was midway through the

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01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 8: fourth quarter and they go for that fourth and too

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01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 8: the ten sixteen games, I think, just we go for

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01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 8: the field goal in that situation and making it a

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01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 8: thirteen to sixteen games. You know, our defense thumbed up

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Speaker 8: with some momentum and I think that's a different outcome.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: That was my biggest takeaways in the game yesterday. Looking

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02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 8: offensively at the team, I think we're forcing the ball,

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02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 8: but they's way too much. You know, he's getting almost

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02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 8: fifteen targets right now, and it looks like Joshua forcing

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02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 8: him the ball. You know, of Caden stem yesterday, I'm

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02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 8: finally using concave with Diggs, but that needs to be

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02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 8: in every game kind of thing we use. We need

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Speaker 8: David Moore. This offense has the takes to be championship caliber.

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Speaker 8: It just it's almost spreading the ball around and giving

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02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 8: all of our playing acrid Toudgeons defensive lea. You know,

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Speaker 8: I'm happy with our defense. That pass rush is one

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02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 8: of the best in the league. And even without Von Miller,

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Speaker 8: you know, a j Fanessa greg usso they're doing the

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Speaker 8: job up front. And yeah, I was kind of like

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Speaker 8: where my hold is done on yesterday?

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Speaker 2: All right, I mean, I'm gonna first address your comment

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Speaker 2: concerning the field goal decision, or the lack of a

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02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 2: field goal decision. It's fourth in about two and a

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02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 2: half at the New England thirty three Bills are down

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02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:12,480
Speaker 2: sixteen to ten, as you said, Anthony, and the pass

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02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 2: goes to Dawson Knox and he gets separated from the

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02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 2: football by the defender. That's a fifty one yard field

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Speaker 2: goal attempt for Tyler Bass, who had already missed a

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02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 2: forty two yard or in the game and missed his

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02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 2: previous two to fifty plus yard attempts. The previous week.

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Speaker 2: So I'm totally on board with going for it there,

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Speaker 2: especially with the struggles that your offense had had in

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02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 2: the game to that point. It's the fourth quarter. You

2332
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 2: don't know how many more possessions you're gonna get, maybe

2333
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 2: one or two at the most, and you're down six.

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02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 2: You're trying to get a touchdown there. I understand. You know,

2335
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 2: it's a six point game. You can cut it in half.

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02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 2: You score a touchdown, now you're ahead. So I'm all

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02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 2: for being aggressive there. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 2: that at all.

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Speaker 4: They called the right play. It was there to be made,

2340
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 4: and the ball got dropped so you know, or got

2341
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 4: hit out, So yeah, it would have, could have should

2342
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 4: have and they should have not picked up the flag

2343
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 4: on the next series either, So you know that's the way.

2344
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 4: That's the way it goes on that last series anyway.

2345
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 4: So I yeah, you can always go back and say

2346
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 4: this one or that one, and if it didn't work

2347
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 4: out for you, you should have done the other thing. But

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Speaker 4: I was all about to going forward on fourth and

2349
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 4: two as well. Uh, this offense, you've got to expect

2350
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 4: them to have a play like that in their back

2351
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 4: pocket that they can go to even if not roll

2352
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 4: Josh out and let him die for the first down.

2353
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it just should not be that big a risk,

2354
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 4: and it wasn't until you know, Knox got his arm

2355
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 4: hit and the ball came out right.

2356
02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:00,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Noah, who's up there in Maine? What

2357
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 2: they got for us? No are you're all one? Bills live?

2358
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 31: Hey, guys, how you doing okay? Good? I had a

2359
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 31: quick point and then I had a question I wanted

2360
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 31: to ask you guys. I'll start with my point. I

2361
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 31: know the narrative about Josh Allen running the ball has

2362
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 31: been kind of beating to death the entire day to day,

2363
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 31: and probably rightfully so to me, I just look at

2364
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 31: the other contenders in our AFC conference here in Lamar

2365
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 31: Jackson's Ravens, and even watching Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs yesterday.

2366
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 31: These guys Mahomes included Lamar obviously more so we don't

2367
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 31: hear the same narrative of their building as we do

2368
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:39,879
Speaker 31: from the Bills. I watched Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs

2369
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 31: probably had even more of a reason to keep Mahomes

2370
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 31: from running. Not only are they paying it more, but

2371
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 31: also he's shown you that he can bring multiple championships.

2372
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 31: And I'm watching Patrick Mahomes run with you know, not

2373
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 31: the same reckless abandonment that we see Josh Allen tend

2374
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:57,520
Speaker 31: to have. But I'm watching Mahomes running up and down

2375
02:03:57,560 --> 02:03:59,280
Speaker 31: the field, and I don't hear a word out of

2376
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 31: Kansas City that Mahomes should run less. Lamar Jackson even

2377
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 31: more of an extreme example. But I think Lamar and

2378
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:08,240
Speaker 31: Josh Allen are probably more similar than Josh Allen and

2379
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 31: Patrick Mahomes. But Lamar is running. Even with this new

2380
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 31: offensive coordinator they got in Baltimore, Lamar is still running.

2381
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 8: And you don't hear for.

2382
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 31: Baltimore, let's run him less because they know what sort

2383
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 31: of weapon that is. And I just don't understand how

2384
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 31: this has become such a huge talking point out of

2385
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 31: one Bill's drive. That's my main point, guys. I also

2386
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 31: had another question for you here. I just want to

2387
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 31: know what Sean mcdernott means by complimentary football because you

2388
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:36,160
Speaker 31: said it in the span I think you said it

2389
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 31: eight or nine times in the span of about two

2390
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 31: minutes in its press conference. The way I perceive it

2391
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 31: is that is kind of his way, and you guys

2392
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 31: can correct me if I'm wrong. That is kind of

2393
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 31: his way of telling you that he may have a

2394
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 31: little bit more of an influence into this offense, and

2395
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 31: I think we might be led to believe. I think

2396
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 31: McDermott wants this offense to be run heavy. Not only that,

2397
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 31: but I think he wants is awful to sustain long, long,

2398
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:03,880
Speaker 31: beautiful drives.

2399
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 9: Which is great.

2400
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:06,560
Speaker 31: But at some point you have.

2401
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 8: To go back to what the Bills are.

2402
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 31: And to me, their identity is exactly what Steve said.

2403
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 31: They lose close and they win big. How do they

2404
02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 31: win big? It's that explosivity factor that is just lacking.

2405
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 31: We saw it in the Miami game, which is why

2406
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,040
Speaker 31: this is all so frustrating today. But we saw that

2407
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 31: explosivity factor in the Miami game, and I was such

2408
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 31: a hater of the one score narrative from I believe

2409
02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:30,240
Speaker 31: that was last year. The game is zero zero. Every

2410
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 31: game is zero zero when it starts. It's as close

2411
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 31: as it can get every game. The Bills win big

2412
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 31: because they have that explosive factor. They're not a team

2413
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 31: that is this conservative shell of itself that wants to

2414
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 31: conserve the ball and kind of be like the old

2415
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 31: days of Tyrod Taylor. They are a team that civity

2416
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 31: factor that we saw in the Miami game. That we

2417
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 31: definitely saw in the Miami game. They offense in the

2418
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 31: same nothing changed, and then ever since that, I think

2419
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:57,839
Speaker 31: we've kind of fallen back into whatever this complimentary football

2420
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 31: Sean mcderm is saying it. Just like your opinion on that, guys.

2421
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 31: I know we're not in the locker room. We're not

2422
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 31: in one Bill's drive itself. This might be more speculation

2423
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 31: than anything, but I can see it. You know, the

2424
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:11,160
Speaker 31: way we run the ball a little more, it's complimentary football.

2425
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:13,560
Speaker 31: If that's Sean McDermott's way of telling us that that's

2426
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 31: how he wants his offense to run, then we're gonna

2427
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 31: lose games like this. The Bills are front runners, that's

2428
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,920
Speaker 31: their identity. They want to get out ahead, they want

2429
02:06:20,920 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 31: to throw the ball deep. Let them do that and

2430
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 31: we'll live and die by that. If that's not good

2431
02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 31: enough and we have another thirteen seconds, then so be it.

2432
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 31: But at least we died it going down and swinging.

2433
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 31: I'd just like to take on that. Guys, Thank you well.

2434
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 4: For every I get it. You know the Bills, you

2435
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 4: know you love it when the Bills run out and

2436
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 4: leave these teams well, the converse thing to that is

2437
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 4: that the Bills are beating the Dolphins forty seven, forty

2438
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 4: eight to twenty the Dolphins. Holding the Dolphins to twenty

2439
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 4: points is something. Holding the the Raiders to seven points

2440
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 4: or to ten points is something. Holding Washington to three

2441
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 4: points is something. Complimentary football means both sides of all.

2442
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't just mean doesn't just mean that you get to

2443
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 4: you know and listen, you want to play complimentary football.

2444
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 4: Bill scored fourteen points and the defense play held the

2445
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 4: Giants to nine. That's complimentary football. You got to if

2446
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, you got to play it on both sides.

2447
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 4: So for everything you say about, hey that Bill, you're

2448
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 4: you're killing us because you're not letting the Bills score

2449
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 4: forty eight points every week.

2450
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 2: Please.

2451
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott has no problem with the offense scoring forty

2452
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:35,160
Speaker 4: eight points. That's crazy. He knows his defense is going

2453
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 4: to be put under some pressure, no question about it.

2454
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 4: But what he doesn't want is an offense to go

2455
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 4: out there and play fast and loose and go one, two,

2456
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 4: three and out and fourteen minutes after a forty second possession.

2457
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 4: His defense is right back out there because you threw

2458
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 4: a pick on the first play from scrimmage. That's what

2459
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 4: he's talking about. You can play your offense any way

2460
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 4: you want as long as you're successful. And like I said,

2461
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 4: most I don't even have a problem with Josh turning

2462
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 4: the ball over when they're scoring forty eight points a game.

2463
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 2: Who care?

2464
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 4: Let him try, Give him an extra give him an

2465
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 4: extra two possessions. If they can score forty eight on us,

2466
02:08:16,160 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 4: good luck, because our defense is that good. So that

2467
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 4: complimentary football doesn't mean one side of the ball sacrifices

2468
02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 4: for the other. It means it's successful and the other

2469
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,120
Speaker 4: and both sides are successful, which makes it takes the

2470
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 4: error the margin of error and widens it for both

2471
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:33,320
Speaker 4: sides of the ball.

2472
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 2: So I actually explained it after the game, Like you said,

2473
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,600
Speaker 2: he mentioned it four of eight times, and two minutes.

2474
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 2: He mentioned it four times for the record, because I

2475
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 2: have a transcript in front of me. Second of all,

2476
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 2: he laid out to you exactly what he means by

2477
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 2: complimentary football. He said he didn't put the defense in

2478
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 2: position enough to succeed. And then overall, they did not

2479
02:08:56,240 --> 02:08:59,560
Speaker 2: play complimentary football. When you look at the first half,

2480
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 2: two short fields led to ten points. Okay, that includes

2481
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 2: the interception which set up the Patriots on the bills

2482
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:11,800
Speaker 2: forty three yard line. Then he also referenced the punt

2483
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 2: return by the Patriots. Twenty five yard return sets up

2484
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 2: good field position, it leads to ten points for the Patriots.

2485
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 2: That's not good complimentary football. The job of the special

2486
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 2: teams is to win the field position battle and help

2487
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:29,839
Speaker 2: your offense and defense. Accordingly, they did not do that.

2488
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 2: That is not complimenting your offense and defense by the

2489
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 2: special teams. The defense gave up too many chunk plays,

2490
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:40,839
Speaker 2: didn't defend the red zone effectively. Not helping your offense. Okay,

2491
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 2: because now you're putting them in a situation where they

2492
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 2: have to throw the ball more often. That now exposes

2493
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 2: Josh Allen to more pass rush. And so what did

2494
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 2: the offense do? They sleep walk through the first half

2495
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 2: and didn't score. They scored three points. Now you're not

2496
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 2: helping your defense, because now what can New England do?

2497
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 2: New England can run the football all day long, not

2498
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 2: put mac Jones in any kind of peril. They stay

2499
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 2: on schedule and with the defense continuing to give up

2500
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 2: chunk plays, they don't put themselves in position to rush

2501
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 2: the passer because they're never in long down and distance.

2502
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 2: That's complimentary football. And the Bills didn't do it in

2503
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 2: any of the three phases yesterday. So he's been using

2504
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 2: that phrase since he got here in twenty seventeen. It

2505
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with his influence on the offense. Now,

2506
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 2: if you want to tell me he's telling Ken Dorsey, hey,

2507
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,320
Speaker 2: let's run the ball a little bit more, let's be

2508
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 2: a little more balanced. I will listen to that, but

2509
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:34,560
Speaker 2: that is completely irrelevant from what he means when it

2510
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 2: comes to complimentary football.

2511
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 4: Now, that's it, and I think that's and I think

2512
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:42,440
Speaker 4: that's probably what Nora was getting at. He might think

2513
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 4: that mcdermot's in there going, hey, run this, you know,

2514
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 4: every second in short run the football instead of whatever.

2515
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 2: You But as you said, Steve, he's all too happy

2516
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 2: if the offense is explosive, because if it's more points

2517
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 2: for the offense gets what his defense gets to do

2518
02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:01,280
Speaker 2: rush the passer because the other team's got to throw

2519
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 2: to keep up with you. He doesn't want to curtail

2520
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,640
Speaker 2: this offense in any way, shape or form, because it

2521
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 2: hurts his defense from a complimentary perspective. So yeah, I mean,

2522
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 2: I understand what you're driving at Noah, I just don't

2523
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:16,720
Speaker 2: think it relates at all to what he says when

2524
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 2: he's talking about complimentary football. We gotta take a break here.

2525
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna take some more phone calls when we come

2526
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 2: back to wrap this up on one Bill's Live, Stay tuned.

2527
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Speaker 2: Ticketmaster is the presenting sponsor the Buffalo Bill's twenty twenty

2528
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:49,000
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2529
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 2: Back to the phones for a call or two, and

2530
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 2: we go to Edric in New Jersey. What do you

2531
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 2: got for us?

2532
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 10: Dric Hey, Chris, how you doing? And Steve?

2533
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 13: I want to preface this, back the heck out of

2534
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:04,920
Speaker 13: you guys, Right, But Chris, after Dolphins game, you went

2535
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 13: on a rant and you went at some people. And

2536
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 13: that's me who called during the summer. And I'm gonna

2537
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 13: beat this drama until we win a championship. And I

2538
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 13: told you we are coached by the Kirk.

2539
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 16: Cousins of coaching, right, Sean McDermott. But you want to

2540
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:22,800
Speaker 16: crown him right after we beat the Dolphins, right, But

2541
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 16: we let him get through the thirteen seconds tobaccle. We

2542
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 16: let him let Leslie Fraser stick around way too long, right,

2543
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:35,640
Speaker 16: and now we're letting him I lock Ken Dorsey stick

2544
02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:38,320
Speaker 16: around when we all can see that this man is

2545
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 16: way out of his depth.

2546
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,320
Speaker 13: He can't call a game to save his life. And

2547
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 13: it's as clear as it can be.

2548
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 4: Why Bills were second in the league in scoring last year.

2549
02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:49,000
Speaker 4: He thought they stunk last year.

2550
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 13: Because Josh Allen. Because Josh Allen steve.

2551
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:53,560
Speaker 4: This year.

2552
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 32: It is Josh Allen bean off script.

2553
02:12:56,280 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 13: That's everything that's great about our offense.

2554
02:12:58,480 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 19: That's everything that's.

2555
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:02,839
Speaker 32: Great about our if Josh Allen just being playing backyard

2556
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 32: football and throwing it down the field, and that's what

2557
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:08,600
Speaker 32: makes Josh so great. Why can't Josh have easy throws?

2558
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 32: Why can't Josh have easy things? We can't.

2559
02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 13: And this is the recency bias. I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 13: to Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 32: Every year we lose games like this, and this is

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Speaker 32: the reason why we don't have the number one seed

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Speaker 32: in the playoffs because we lose to the New York

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Speaker 32: Jets and Zack Wilson. We lose to Mac Jones and

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Speaker 32: the one in five Patriots, right, and we lose to

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Speaker 32: the Urban Meyer Jackson Little Jaguars. But we want to

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Speaker 32: crown saw McDermott right after we beat the Dolphins. Why

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Speaker 32: because he took another playoffs, because we didn't make the

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Speaker 32: playoffs for twenty years.

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Speaker 13: Let's up our bar.

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Speaker 15: That's it.

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Speaker 13: The drought is done. Sean McDermott is not gonna get

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Speaker 13: it done. And until he proves me otherwise, Man, I'm

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Speaker 13: gonna beat this drum.

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Speaker 4: And man, you can watch. You can beat that. You

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Speaker 4: can beat that drum all you want, and I get it.

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Speaker 4: And people were beating that drum for Andy Reid in

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia for a year after year for a year, and

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Speaker 4: people were beating that drum for all these other coaches

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Speaker 4: in the whole league who were all great, who were bad,

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Speaker 4: were great, couldn't win it. You can beat that drum

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Speaker 4: for thirty one coaches in the NFL every year. So

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Speaker 4: congratulations enjoying that way to go out on the limb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you're a title to your opinion,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine. And all I said was the Bills

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Speaker 2: have a very good defensive coach and Sean McDermot who

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Speaker 2: knows how to put together a game plan and stop

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Speaker 2: one of the best defenses in the NFL offensive or

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Speaker 2: offenses in the NFL. That's all I really stated when

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Speaker 2: I went on the rant, and I don't think and

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Speaker 2: people wanted and fired last year, So you're entitled to

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Speaker 2: your opinion. I'm entitled to mine, and that's just the

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Speaker 2: way it is, and that's why these shows are so

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Speaker 2: much fun. We'll see you tomorrow with Dan Orlovski.