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Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Almost Famous to OG's Bob Guinea. Here without my lovely

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Speaker 2: co host Trista Sutter nay Wren. However, I have another

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Speaker 2: beautiful person with me today, Natasha. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Natasha Parker, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm so good. Thank you for having me, Thank you

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Speaker 3: for being here.

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Speaker 2: And you have your golf chicon for today's almost famous, Yes,

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Speaker 2: incredibly average something not entirely sure what the name of

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Speaker 2: this thing is, but the almost famous what is it called?

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Speaker 3: The famous Beverage very average, almost average.

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Speaker 4: Famously almost average golf day.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're doing today. So Natasha, our viewers

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Speaker 2: and listeners will know you from, of course, from Peter

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Speaker 2: Webers season of The Bachelor, and then you went on

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Speaker 2: The Bachelor in Paradise not too long after that, So

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about a little bit

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Speaker 2: of that, and then I want to get into what

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Speaker 2: you're up to right now, which I know the Hidden

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Speaker 2: Gems and watched a couple episodes the other day and

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Speaker 2: so I got myself, you know, into zone, so I

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Speaker 2: knew who you were last night and you're like, Hi,

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Speaker 2: I'm Thesasha. Yeah, yeah, no. But so you went on

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Speaker 2: Peter's season and this this was several years ago for you,

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Speaker 2: now right, I mean how many years ago was that? Five?

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Speaker 3: Pre pandemic? Twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, five years yep. So you go on

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Speaker 2: it's twenty nineteen. Do you know that Peter's going to

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Speaker 2: be the Bachelor before you go? Now, what has you

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Speaker 2: even motivated to submit your information for a show like guess?

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Speaker 1: Well, a friend of mine, Julie Lapaca, who was a

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Speaker 1: producer on the show. It's the whole reason why I

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Speaker 1: went on that show, Okay, and we love her for

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Speaker 1: it and we hate.

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Speaker 3: Her for it. Yeah, a love hate thing that right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: She actually was like, she's she really wanted me to

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Speaker 1: go on the season before that, which was Colton's season,

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Speaker 1: and she really was trying to push. But I was

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Speaker 1: working in my corporate job. I was like, girl, I

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Speaker 1: can't quit my job to go on this show. But

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Speaker 1: I just so happen. Life happened. I quit my job

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Speaker 1: to go freelance anyway. And she was like, well, you're

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Speaker 1: between gigs right now, you should really just I've spent

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Speaker 1: a she said, She's spent three months with the bachelor

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Speaker 1: and you'd really like him.

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Speaker 3: This is one of my best friends.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, She's like, the best thing that could

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Speaker 1: happen is you'll never have to date again. The worst

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Speaker 1: thing that will happen is you have an experience. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, never having to date again, great sign.

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Speaker 2: Experience, Yeah yeah, at least an.

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Speaker 1: Experience, and exactly and experience, yeah yeah, And so I

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Speaker 1: was like sure, So she sent an email I sent.

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Speaker 1: I had to send her like thousands of pictures in

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Speaker 1: like a bio that took me forever to write myself,

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Speaker 1: and then I didn't hear anything for months, and then

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Speaker 1: one person called from casting, then another person, another person.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if someone just like if they backed

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Speaker 1: out or what happened, but apparently there was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be thirty six people for our season and ended up

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Speaker 1: being thirty three. And I was like a very last edition,

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Speaker 1: just so much so they started calling Labor Day and

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Speaker 1: we left like on the sixteenth or something, so it

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Speaker 1: was like two weeks.

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Speaker 4: My experience was pretty similar for trist this season when

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Speaker 4: I was on her season with The Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: I was a last minute person. But it was so

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Speaker 2: funny because I didn't send in anything.

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Speaker 3: You didn't say, so how did they get in contact

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Speaker 3: with you?

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Speaker 2: They went through my assistance at my office and they

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Speaker 2: just flew me outside unseen to meet them. That's a

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Speaker 2: different story, I'll tell you later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is this is about you, yea. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it's so exciting because you know, sometimes that last minute thing,

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Speaker 2: you don't really have time to second guess it. You're

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Speaker 2: just like, oh, what the hell, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's honestly, that's so me.

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Speaker 1: And there's so many times in my life where I

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Speaker 1: was just like, let's go or let's do it, and

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Speaker 1: I've had like the best nights or the best trips,

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Speaker 3: So I was like, why not?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I think when you put too much into

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Speaker 2: it in your head, you might even have to ruin it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked yourself out of it for sure.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I read something the other day that said, at the time,

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Speaker 2: you were an event planner, but you also had a

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Speaker 2: bunch of production experience too. So did you feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know, that kind of production experience helped you going

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Speaker 2: into the situation where you're like, Okay, I'm clearly being

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Speaker 2: produced in this moment.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I Well, the thing is is, I didn't

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Speaker 1: watch the show. And it's funny that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people say that all the time, and the producers even

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Speaker 1: and I'm like the what, Like, I literally did not

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Speaker 1: I did not watch this show. I watched Limo Entrances

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Speaker 1: the very first night, like like while I was packing

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Speaker 1: Because my friends were like, you have to watch that

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But so I literally didn't watch. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I come from a film and like scripted television background,

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Speaker 3: It's like sitting and interviewing Robert de Niro, you know, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So it's very much a different thing when it's like

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Speaker 1: your actual real life. So it was funny because that

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Speaker 1: I read it, and Natasha's a producer plant she worked

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Speaker 1: in production. I was like, I wish I knew what

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Speaker 1: head was on a swivel. Let me tell you, Oh,

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Speaker 4: Well, then you go on and you meet, you know

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Speaker 4: a bunch of people who I know you have really

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Speaker 4: great friendships with still to this day, a lot of

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Speaker 4: the girls on the show, and then you know you

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was a lot of drama, right, drama

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Speaker 2: from his MoMA drama. Were you like so happy that

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, but I mean I it was.

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Speaker 1: It was very clear that watching it, like watching it

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Speaker 3: It was like, Peter does.

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Speaker 1: Not know what he wants and you know, as a mom,

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Speaker 1: how do you think that about your kid?

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Speaker 1: So I was it's a hard situation because obviously she's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have any kids, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like I probably feel the same way your mom. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but does but does your but does your your why

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's pretty much realized.

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Speaker 4: But but I will say this, at that once we're

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Speaker 4: at that stage, I'm hopeful we.

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Speaker 2: Could both see through the clouds. Yeah. No, I think

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Speaker 3: You know, I think a lot I'm glad I wasn't

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times those bachelors get to

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Speaker 2: But if you're still not knowing which direction you're gonna go,

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And that's obviously I think where Peter was right to

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Speaker 2: a few of those things. So I mean, in that way,

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Speaker 2: I think you probably dodged a bullet. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 3: Way with Peter. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny how many people say that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, poor Peter. I mean he is a

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Speaker 2: Right there you go, right, and so you did get

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Speaker 2: to learn from your experience. Oh yeah, and you did that?

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Speaker 2: Did that kind of fine tune you for what you

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Speaker 1: Well, I definitely think this experience and going on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I've talked about this on my podcast too. It's

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Speaker 1: definitely learned so much about yourself going on the show.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and dating, Like I also was like a

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Speaker 1: of you know, there's certain exactly exactly exactly, So it's

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Speaker 1: you do and there's I mean, I've become so much

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Speaker 1: I had to. But yeah, so the reflection is like invaluable.

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Speaker 2: You know, what was it like for you two, Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you go into a circumstance like that. Your

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Speaker 2: previous experience had been behind the camera, right, and so

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Speaker 2: now you go on that show and all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden you have all these people armchair quarterbacking how you act, right,

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Speaker 2: so they're they're chiming in on social media and things.

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Speaker 2: Was that tough for you? Yea, even though you had

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who obviously loved you and thought

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Speaker 2: part was and this is even before social media to

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Speaker 2: date me even more. But I remember someone would say,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even register, but one mean thing and that would

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Speaker 2: stick with me for days. Yes, And did you experience

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Speaker 2: a little bit of that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean it's it's like inhuman

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