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Speaker 1: Well well and well we're back.

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Speaker 2: Breaking very well Southwest.

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Speaker 1: Division existence presidented.

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Speaker 3: I know I hit him with the three wells well Cube,

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Speaker 3: I got those dot three well sneakers on anyway, we're

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Speaker 2: Okay, dragon Because of.

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Speaker 1: That, I'm out sharks A.

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Speaker 3: I had to reference an iconic sneaker on today's episode.

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Speaker 3: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is

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Speaker 3: Miles Jack Kitch sorry get it.

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Speaker 1: Ka Hitch Okay, j be driving Spinny k Fatter number eighteen.

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Speaker 3: That's been stun The Celtics are NBA champions.

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Speaker 1: Over the double.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome to.

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Speaker 3: The show again, co host of Jack Jones, none other

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Speaker 3: than Dragonfly Jones himself.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir, Thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good, always good to hop back on

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Speaker 2: with y'all.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's like Christmas Eve whenever I come home,

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Speaker 4: because I know the NBA season is like right around

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Speaker 4: the court.

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Speaker 1: We're coming up on it. We're doing the divisional look ahead.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, that's so much, so much to look at

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Speaker 3: right now until Media Day when really that's that's Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Because I not I have to see Jimmy Butler's photo

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Speaker 5: this year. I will always wait, what bait?

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Speaker 1: What do we think he could do? Because like I

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Speaker 1: mean the goth was like big, like it is it punk?

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Speaker 3: I mean, well you think the dreadlocks were a wig?

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Speaker 3: So and then that was his natural hair look like

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Speaker 3: with the emo look. So, I don't know if does

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Speaker 3: he escalate, does he wear some kind of gigantic wig,

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Speaker 3: does he go? Does he shock the world and bick

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Speaker 3: the head? I don't know, I don't know. I mean dragonfly,

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Speaker 3: what do you think.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm making he might go eighties on us.

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Speaker 2: I'm making a Gumby. Yeah, I think we might get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, somebody needs to come with like the Gumby. Really,

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Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I really need to see there are like

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Speaker 3: a flat top. But it's been too long now, it's

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Speaker 3: been too long since I was looking at my nineteen

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Speaker 3: Dwayne Coswell's hair.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, thank you for joining us. Yeah, like we said,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna look at the Southwest Division.

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Speaker 6: And for people who don't know what the Southwest Division

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Speaker 6: is because I don't keep track of teams by division.

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Speaker 6: That is, of course Dallas, New Orleans, Memphis, Phoenix, Houston, Phoenix.

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Speaker 6: Phoenix is Pacific of course because they're on the Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 2: Of course, that beat side town Phoenix that everybody knows. First.

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Speaker 1: Should we take a look around the league?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a couple of things I think we

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Speaker 2: Right now, what do we got?

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Speaker 6: We got Commissioner Silver Commissi. The Commissi has acknowledged that

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Speaker 6: there is interest in expansion at some point that says

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Speaker 6: the league is not quite ready at this time. Since

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Speaker 6: we on Miles and Jack got my boosties are bastions

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Speaker 6: of journalistic integrity, I feel like we should speculate where

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Speaker 6: that expansion might ultimately take place with absolutely no sourcing

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Speaker 5: Be cool, you'd be cool, Like I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: What, sick Eyes.

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Speaker 6: I think Seattle Tops, the Oh that would be cool

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Speaker 6: they need a team. They got a great fan base.

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Speaker 6: We all saw the lines for that Summer League game.

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Speaker 6: But where where else would make the Oh man, that'd

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Speaker 2: Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Vegas is the one that I hear all the time.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, no, no, I want to hear Seattle

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Speaker 5: But yeah, what about you Dragonfly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a sure gonna be Vegas in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: I think they're both probably gonna be Western Conference teams.

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Speaker 2: We're like Memphis and another team go go east.

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Speaker 6: Many Portland's miles, Yeah, I thought Portland, and I thought,

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Speaker 5: But I just feel like that feels like a bridge too.

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Speaker 6: For me, it reminds me of like the movies when

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Speaker 6: And we already complain about like NBA travel schedule and

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Speaker 6: of those games in London right for everybody? I mean,

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Speaker 6: like a second team in Canada could make sense. Uh,

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Speaker 6: think that's really it. I don't think anything anywhere else

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Speaker 1: Sense to me.

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Speaker 4: You know, you saw Draymond Green complaining about, you know,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Because, as we've already covered, they are an Eastern

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Speaker 5: Exactly another news Lakers.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers are going to be wearing a you know,

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's actually okay, it's about there. I thought it

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Speaker 2: I thought that was so nice of them. I thought

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Speaker 6: I was like, actually a little freaked out, Like, oh

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Speaker 2: Also, how is he? Like?

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Speaker 3: I get why Bill Russell Obviously you're gonna you're gonna,

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Speaker 2: But why, I feel like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm being like overly biased as

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I'll stay out of it. I don't

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Speaker 4: Oh No, Jerry West is for sure, you know, worthy

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Speaker 2: You know so yeah, for sure, for sure worthy of

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Speaker 2: it's just the Lakers. I mean, he's the logo. Why

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Speaker 2: So hey, I don't know, maybe I can talk to

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Speaker 6: You could also do a league wide retirement of the

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Speaker 2: Definitely not, but definitely not.

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Speaker 3: Didn't you say you played against Scalabrini in high school

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Speaker 2: Me, who did you play against?

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Speaker 6: You said, no, lady, But when my dad was coaching

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Speaker 2: But who was an NBA player that you played on?

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Speaker 2: Oh, baby, my UCLA Brethren.

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Speaker 1: And Dan goad Zurich ate me up and I was

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Speaker 1: I love it. Actually, I love how many times you're

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm a poster pig man.

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Speaker 6: He actually stopped because he was getting freaked out because

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Speaker 1: And gad Zurich hallucinating, making me look like I just

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Speaker 3: I know you're a big lebron fan, as am I

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Speaker 2: Like you can do the whole accolades with Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Because the big bullepoint of why I think he's the

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Speaker 4: been a player who's his team's potential more than Lebron does. Right, Like,

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Speaker 4: Lebron might be the number one overall pick if those

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Speaker 2: I'm like, there it is, you know what it's.

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Speaker 4: It's it's crazy right because the league is literally so

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Speaker 2: It's not the Kevin Durantz that move the needles.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, yeah, people are really there are there are

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Speaker 6: that we're about to talk about in our Southwest Division preview,

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Speaker 6: But it might, I don't know, they might now be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: And we're bare Southwest not just an airline, but a

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Speaker 1: Year now from the Western move about the country.

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Speaker 5: Some of the funniest flight attendants.

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Speaker 6: I mean, honestly the reason I got into comedy. Southwest

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Speaker 3: Have you ever phone in Vegas when they really hit

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Speaker 2: Comedy comedy.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk. Let's talk Southway. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: it's a very interesting division. Obviously, it has one of

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Speaker 6: Like they looked really good last year, and you know

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Speaker 1: Dallas.

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Speaker 6: All right, So they traded away Josh Green and Tim

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Speaker 6: they won fifty last year, projected to win forty nine

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Speaker 1: What are we thinking here? What do you think dragon place?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: First, yeah, yeah, I think that's about right. I think

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be.

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Speaker 6: So what happens, Yeah, I feel like I would go

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Speaker 6: But there is just something about like the you know,

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Speaker 3: People obvious you're gonna notice something for me because I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and some shows like to keep people in suspense,

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Speaker 3: Everything is going to be fear based because I we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta change there. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, so we're not talking about all the Trosses.

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Speaker 3: he's also in like great mental shape.

444
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 2: He's very focused and has a good head on coming

445
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 2: into this season. But I don't know.

446
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 3: I mean that that's there's also like what happens with

447
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: Brandon Ingram, Like, is how committed is he to the Pells?

448
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 3: Do they move him on or does he stay? But yeah,

449
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, what's what's everyone's feelings?

450
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: Is it?

451
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 3: Is?

452
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: It?

453
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: Is? It always just going to be like.

454
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 5: Well, how what's Zion bringing this year. What's Zion? I mean,

455
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 5: obviously that is a huge piece because he's a generational talent.

456
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I feel like there's so many

457
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 4: good pieces there, like Ingram Zion or you know, CJ.

458
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: But I don't know, and and and they show out

459
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 4: during the regular season. You know, they have streaks where

460
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 4: they they won like fifteen out of twenty two or whatever.

461
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 4: You know, they're going those types of runs. But then

462
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: in the playoffs it's just, you know, they just get

463
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 4: ran off the court. So, I mean, but I guess

464
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 4: we're talking regular season here. And you said the over

465
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 4: unders like forty eightis or so, yeah.

466
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 6: Forty five and a half to forty seven and a

467
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 6: half wins. That's the spread among various varying sports books.

468
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds about right. I'd say they about a

469
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 4: forty six forty seven wins team.

470
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 6: That. Yeah, so last year they won forty nine and

471
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 6: Zion played seventy games. So I think I'm assuming that

472
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 6: the regression in wins is probably based on people being like, well,

473
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 6: he's not We're not going to necessarily get that streak

474
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 6: of good good fortune again. Same time, there's always I

475
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 6: don't know you know, Steph Curry for a big portion

476
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 6: of the early part of his career was like, well

477
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 6: you can get like thirty thirty games from him, and

478
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 6: then you know, he figured it out and like made

479
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 6: changes to his body. And it does seem like Zion

480
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 6: something has changed because the pick so I'm seeing, you know,

481
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 6: like he looks healthy and light right is kind of

482
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 6: what we're what we're seeing.

483
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, sprung there in his step. Yeah he's got that

484
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: extra bounce.

485
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, I I could see them being a slight under,

486
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 6: but it'll be it'll be interesting.

487
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 2: They're definitely under for me. And I don't know if

488
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: I am meant to say, I don't know. I don't know,

489
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: and we don't know why everyone I don't know why.

490
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

491
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think Zion is clearly looking like

492
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 3: every I mean, he looks like he's walking into the

493
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: season the best shape of his life, and the way

494
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: things ended last season, I feel like he's probably I

495
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 3: think he's got the motivation to really to show and prove.

496
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: So I and with all that said, I'm going under.

497
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: All right.

498
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 6: So up next we have Memphis, which is the team

499
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 6: that I was kind of referring to before the break

500
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 6: as like, so they're going from twenty seven wins last

501
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 6: year projected to go up to forty seven and a

502
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 6: half wins per DraftKings this season. Biggest changes traded Zire

503
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 6: Williams lost Utah Watton, Abby Jordan Goodwin and several others

504
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 6: via free agency, but like not necessarily the important pieces.

505
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 6: They drafted Zach Edy, Jalen Wells, and Cam Spencer also

506
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 6: signed James Hoff. Part of me is like, all right,

507
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 6: so jaw back healthy, here we go, Well, like, this

508
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 6: is the number of wins they should get that if

509
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 6: all of that goes according to plan. I just feel

510
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 6: like there's like a lot of assumptions built into that,

511
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 6: and twenty wins is a lot to make up. I

512
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 6: don't know, like I did have them for the most wins,

513
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 6: and I think maybe I'm just or the biggest the

514
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 6: most wins gained this season. I think I might just

515
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 6: be tired of that take and so I'm like reverting

516
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 6: to going against it. But I also I just like,

517
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 6: like Zach Edy, I loved the game he played in

518
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 6: the Summer League, but I like, who knows how healthy

519
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 6: he's going to stay because we only got one game

520
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 6: out of him in the Summer League, possibly because they

521
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 6: were like, Okay, we know what we have here and

522
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 6: we don't need to like risk injury. But what do

523
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 6: you guys thinking.

524
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: I'm Memphis, I think, I mean, I get the logic

525
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: of saying, you have this piece in John Morant coming back.

526
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: Of course that's going to lead to a pretty significant

527
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: increase in leins. I'm like, twenty is a lot, and

528
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: again I understand why that is like sort of the

529
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: prevailing sort of take on here, but part of me.

530
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: Is like, we also like I need to be reminded again.

531
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: I just need to see John Morant do John Morant

532
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: things consistently and then it'll make sense. But I'm a

533
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: little I'm definitely a little apprehensive there. But also I'm

534
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: always going to pick the under so I'm going to

535
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: say under. But that's just sort of that's just how

536
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: I look at it. I mean, Dragonfly, do you think

537
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: like joh coming back, boom, that's an instant twenty games?

538
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: Are there other sort of dimensions to this that we're

539
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: kind of not looking at that you think can get

540
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: them there or or not?

541
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 4: How many games I think went last year, like twenty two,

542
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: twenty seven, twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm probably

543
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 4: taking the under here too. I think they're about a

544
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: forty two forty three one. See, I don't see him

545
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 4: in a forty seven win team. Okay, I think I

546
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: think they're right around five hundred, even even with John

547
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: full strength.

548
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 6: Ok Yeah, John looked great in the short run where

549
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 6: he was back, but it was very very brief time

550
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 6: and he got injured. Hopefully, you know, every again, hopefully

551
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 6: everybody's like working with whoever Steph worked with that one

552
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 6: year to like get his body back in shape. But

553
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 6: you know, long periods away from the court, and you know,

554
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 6: he's always been a top concern with like loving to

555
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 6: watch jaw is that his body is kind of small

556
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 6: and what he does with it is not small in

557
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 6: any respect.

558
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: It's yeah, is it built for the the bounds of Pynes.

559
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah sure sure. Oh also I just realized he only

560
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: played six game games.

561
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a small stree for sure.

562
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

563
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm just saying, Like it's there's a

564
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: there's just a lot, there's a it's a long road,

565
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 3: but I would love nothing more to just see him

566
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: step onto the court like nothing happened, and he's just

567
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: delivering Day one.

568
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 6: I want to see forty seven and a half. But

569
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 6: if I am having to put money on it, which

570
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 6: I am, uh, I guess a lot.

571
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: It's not warning Jack.

572
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, I don't know if this is

573
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: the one. Yeah, the one he's like that and Dallas, Man, I.

574
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: Got to make up for that Dallas pick. But that game.

575
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 6: You haven't even lost that yet. But could you imagine anyways, Yeah,

576
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 6: Memphis is like definitely interesting.

577
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Zach Edie.

578
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, I did not come into the Summer League

579
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 6: like I was interested to see what he did, and

580
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 6: I always felt like he was a little slept on

581
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 6: coming out of the league. But now I'm like very

582
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 6: intrigued based on what we saw in that one Summer

583
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 6: League game. If he's going to be he's gonna be

584
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: a force. What do you think his rookie season looks like?

585
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 6: Because I feel like that's the guy you got to

586
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 6: have a pitch count on, Like I don't know how

587
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 6: many back to backs he can give ado like that

588
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 6: and all that. You know, right, Yeah, probably I'd imagine

589
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 6: he's like in the twenty between twenty and thirty minute

590
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 6: range per game.

591
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Like probably on the lower end, probably in the low twenties.

592
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: He's got to strengthen that body. He's a big shalute,

593
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much.

594
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: Moving on over to Houston, who had a really really interested.

596
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: They made things they they were making people nervous towards

597
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: the end of last season, and we got those grim

598
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: Reaper memes being like, who will they come for next?

599
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: At the bottom of the conference.

600
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: Forty one wins last year, right now, the bookmakers like

601
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: them about a game and a half or two above

602
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: that forty two and a half between forty two and

603
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: a half forty three and a half wins. Biggest changes here.

604
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: They drafted Reed Sheppard. They traded for AJ Griffin Junior,

605
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: who is now actually sounds like he is just stepping

606
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: away from the game, so I hope everything's okay there.

607
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: They resigned a lot of their free agents. Bobon he

608
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: is heading, he's taken off, he's going on Turkey. I

609
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: think he's playing for Fender bach Uh And Reggie Bullock

610
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: is going into free agency or went to free agency.

611
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know.

612
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean, like I think with this one too, I'm

613
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: always curious about like Jalen Green like he looked so

614
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: good in like in like from March towards that last

615
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: stretch of the season, and I'm I can I think

616
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: a lot of Rockets fans are like, is that will

617
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: that guy be there from game one?

618
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 2: Because that is.

619
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: Also another thing that a lot of people feel like,

620
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: you know, he's pretty streaky with his performances, but I

621
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: think that's a that's a that's a big question mark.

622
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: And also, because I'm a hater, I'm just gonna say

623
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: that is also I think they're gonna be I'm gonna

624
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: take the under on this one because I again it's

625
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: not from anything objective, but but please, my my fragile

626
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: Laker heart.

627
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: That's all I have to protect. How how do you

628
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: guys feel about Houston?

629
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: Like? What what? What is?

630
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: What is this Houston team going to be?

631
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: You know, obviously them being a couple of games better

632
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: this season. I think that the that Jalen took I

633
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: think that's the real deal. I don't think that was

634
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: a flashlampan. Of course, sant June's going to be incredible.

635
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: We know that much.

636
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: You know, he may I think, you know, I think

637
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: he's the guy who now that he's he's really you know,

638
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: gotten in the trenches with his personnel, the scheming and all.

639
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: That's going to be top notch, even better than what

640
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: it was lasting. So I think that they're going to

641
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: come back better by a few games for sure.

642
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably, but I can't say that out loud.

643
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: And also I keep forgetting they got Steven Adams, you

644
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like when is he going to

645
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: be healthy? That's I feel like that's maybe never again,

646
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: but yeah, maybe never again. I hope I would love

647
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: to see him because I love the Kiwi. Yeah, he's

648
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: always a bringer of great memories. And I think, I mean,

649
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: like when healthy, I feel I could offer a lot

650
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: for sure, especially because they were missing somebody with that

651
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: size once Shan Gun went down.

652
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, he made is such a good coach that,

653
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 6: like I I don't even believe that they got forty

654
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: one wins last year. Like if you asked me to

655
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 6: take those over under and it was forty and a half,

656
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: I would still take the under on last year's win

657
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 6: total because I'm bad at gambling. But the it's it's

658
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 6: amazing that they got forty one wins last year.

659
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: It really is.

660
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 6: He's he's doing incredible work there, I get. I guess

661
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 6: the one thing is that there might be an issue

662
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Speaker 6: where their two best players don't play well together, and

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Speaker 6: like when Shingun went down is when they started really

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Speaker 6: taking off. So like he's going to have to figure

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Speaker 6: that out at some point. But I also think he

666
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Speaker 6: probably can because again one of the best coaches in

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Speaker 6: the league.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and finally your San Antonio Spurs.

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Speaker 2: I can't help I have. I don't even care what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying there. It's over. It's the over for that

671
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Speaker 2: all the over.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, this is the one team I'm I

673
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Speaker 3: think because I'm so excited about when Bin Yama and

674
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about what year two Wemby looks like

675
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Speaker 3: he is. He turned twenty one this year. Yeah, he's

676
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Speaker 3: over the hell you're right, Yeah, yeah, exactly, hang it up,

677
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: hang it up. Twenty two last year, Yeah, thirty five

678
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Speaker 3: and a half to thirty six and a half this year.

679
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: That's a big jump for a team that got Harrison

680
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Speaker 3: Bards and Risa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah like that.

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Speaker 6: So it's really going to have to come with like

683
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: Wemby just adding things that we didn't know he could add,

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Speaker 6: and he already has a bunch of skills that I

685
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Speaker 6: didn't think were possible, So I just, yeah, it requires

686
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Speaker 6: a level of imagination that I don't possess to be like,

687
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Speaker 6: what is it, what is it going to look like?

688
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Speaker 6: What does thirty seven wins with this team look like?

689
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Speaker 6: And if it happens, it's going to be incredible and

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Speaker 6: like a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, well, how do you think

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Speaker 3: about do you think CP three makes a huge impact?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, having someone with that kind of knowledge

694
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Speaker 3: of the game will already transmit to that kind of knowledge,

695
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Speaker 3: But is that enough to create results on the court?

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Speaker 3: That's I think a big question mark. And obviously, given

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Speaker 3: what he's thirty nine right now, it's uh, he's again

698
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Speaker 3: not as spry as he used to be, but he

699
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: is spry. But yeah, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Dragonfly? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, like you mentioned, Chris Paul's for sure brought

702
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Speaker 4: in to be like an on the floor assistant coach,

703
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Speaker 4: Like you know, that's what he's there for, that his

704
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: best years are way behind him. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: I feel like it was such malpractice how few lobs

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Speaker 4: Winby received, Like I just do not understand how when

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Speaker 4: you see a seven for five guy rolling said to

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Speaker 4: the cup, like like you don't just you know, chuck.

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Speaker 2: You out there. You can do it anywhere too, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, besides, you know, Chris Paul coming

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Speaker 4: in there to to like I said, being on the

712
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Speaker 4: floor assistant coach and what have you. I think he's gonna,

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Speaker 4: you know, really really you know, utilize Wenby and and

714
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Speaker 4: the and the lobs and the picks and the pick

715
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Speaker 4: and rolls. I think Chris Paul is the best lob

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Speaker 4: drowing point guard of all time. And you got a

717
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: guy like you know, Winby, a seven foot five guy

718
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: who's who who always cuts to the basket and he

719
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: gets overlooked so many times, and it drives me nuts

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Speaker 4: when I'm watching it, I'm like, bro, just throw.

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Speaker 2: It up there.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I'm I'm I'm extremely high on

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Speaker 4: the Spurs. I'm more high on maybe than the Spurs,

724
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Speaker 4: of course, but you know, I think I think I

725
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Speaker 4: think the Spurs can sniff five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I think that they can get close to forty.

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Speaker 1: Man, Oh wow, that's exciting.

728
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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see that.

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Speaker 3: And it's and like so you feel Harrison Barnes is

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Speaker 3: also gonna have a huge impact. I mean, I get

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Speaker 3: again he can teach the youngsters a few things. He's

733
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Speaker 3: good with the spacing, which will ultimately help everybody out.

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Speaker 3: But is he also a huge factor for you and

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Speaker 3: saying that they're going to get to five hundred?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, here's some Barns. He's the guy

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Speaker 4: who can help your team get forty wins. Like you know,

738
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Speaker 4: he's not a guy who you want you want to

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Speaker 4: depend on in the postseason. Sure, you know the Spurs

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Speaker 4: are are I think that they're doing whim be a

741
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Speaker 4: really good service by picking up vets like that. You know,

742
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Speaker 4: they're a franchise that sure, SE's the bigger picture. And

743
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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, we don't have to hit a

744
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Speaker 4: home every year, you know, in free agency or Orange drafting,

745
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes we just got to do some some

746
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: sackflies or some infield punts. And I feel like that's

747
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Speaker 4: what those picks were, you know.

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Speaker 3: So exactly, it keeps them flexible, you know what, I mean,

749
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Speaker 3: to really smash the button. If they're saying like, Okay,

750
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Speaker 3: now's the time to really really cash in on this project.

751
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Speaker 2: We have and that's the thing.

752
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: Winby is going to make San Antonio a free agent destination.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think I think they're going to be,

754
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 4: you know, superstars who want to come there and play

755
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: with Wimby because I think when he could, when we

756
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: start the Wimby era, it's going to be it's going

757
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: to be unlike anything we've quite ever seen rafts.

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Speaker 2: I think that dude's got run it up man, that is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he is, He's kind of the next Like

760
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Speaker 6: the reason that I always rooted for Lebron from the

761
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Speaker 6: day he came into the league is because it felt

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Speaker 6: like we were going to see somebody do something that

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Speaker 6: we've never seen before. It was going to like elevate

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Speaker 6: the game to a new level, and we did, and

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Speaker 6: Wemby feels like that. So I'm I'm desperately hoping for

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Speaker 6: and over here, I'm hoping like I I think if

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Speaker 6: if we're seeing thirty seven to like you know, forty

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Speaker 6: one wins, we're going to have to see a version

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Speaker 6: of Wemby that is, uh, you know, unlike anything we've

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Speaker 6: seen before. And yeah, I don't know if you caught

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Speaker 6: the Olympic action, but Wemby is now a full eight

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Speaker 6: feet tall and he's pulling up from just inside the

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Speaker 6: half court line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the producer jabbar.

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Speaker 6: My god, did you see Wemba. I'm like, he's eight

776
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 6: feet tall now, like you could say that and people

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Speaker 6: would be like, oh really.

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Speaker 5: Really yeah, yeah, his shoulders bigger than Dwight Howard.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, I saw that. I saw that picture.

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Speaker 3: Their rookie Stefan Castle from Yukon also looks like a

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Speaker 3: pop player that I feel like could be really interesting,

782
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: Like he's so so like willing to just like die

783
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: on defense and just like just you know, like what

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Speaker 3: are the orders?

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Speaker 1: I got it?

786
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: I got it. I feel like that could.

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Speaker 5: Also be a really really get useful piece for them too.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I was a pop player, you know,

789
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 6: just willing to get dunked on over and over and

790
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 6: over and over again. I guess some people would have said, nah,

791
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 6: a pop player would have taken a charge, but uh,

792
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 6: you know, would they have gotten back up as many times? Exactly?

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Speaker 6: Stay down rock, yeah, barely cry it at all.

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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 6: Right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back for

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Speaker 6: the fastest segment in podcasting. You hear that evil laugh

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Speaker 6: that means it's the rabbid fire around of question and

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Speaker 6: we'll be right back. And we're back and oh miles,

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Speaker 6: oh miles, Oh dear.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it is the fourth quarter. It is time for

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Speaker 5: the rabbid fire round of questioning.

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Speaker 3: Dragonfly Jones, you are one of our favorite guests, one

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00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: of our favorite to talk to. Also a fantastic follow

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Speaker 3: on Twitter. If you if you don't know, you should

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Speaker 3: learn yourself.

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Speaker 5: But I'm sorry to do this to you. You are

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Speaker 5: now in the hot seat.

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Speaker 3: You know how this goes. We asked the questions. You

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Speaker 3: don't think about it. You just give us your first instincts.

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Speaker 1: Just react.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't give us long winded answers, because we'd like

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Speaker 3: to keep the temple up like this. This segment goes

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Speaker 3: exactly and I will not slow down my way of speaking,

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Speaker 3: and we will be rude to you if you slow

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Speaker 3: down the segment. With all that said, do you consent

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Speaker 3: to being part of this rapid fire of question? We

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Speaker 3: have legal that we need to get here, yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: thank you? Yes, legal and then State Farm insurance. We

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Speaker 3: need to get your consent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well you said you're ready and so are we.

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Speaker 2: So Brian, start the clock. So mean.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Dracula.

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Speaker 2: Yea ecular you want to go?

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Speaker 3: D me?

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Speaker 1: I guess we yeah?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you kick us off? Miles?

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Speaker 2: Oh me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You here we go? Couldn't dragonfly Jones?

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Speaker 3: What is your all time favorite throwback shoe and jersey?

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Speaker 3: They don't necessarily have to go together, but please call

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Speaker 3: out the most powerful basketball garments in the universe.

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Speaker 2: This this might be a sleeper pick. It is the

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Speaker 2: ninety five Jason Kids.

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Speaker 4: If you're flights, Yeah, yeah, they came out in black

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Speaker 4: and white and blue and white and the black and

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Speaker 4: white ones, like I got a pair of those as

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Speaker 4: we speak. So those bubble on the side, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: a couple of Oh I think very future.

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Speaker 3: I would just like to remind you on the cover

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Speaker 3: art for this very podcast, when I was with Jack

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Speaker 3: got Mad Boostie's my caricature is rocking those exact sneakers

844
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Speaker 3: because that is my favorite basketball Can we.

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Speaker 2: Just think I'm best friends?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's funny every time they every time

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Speaker 3: Nike releases them, they're like sitting and I'm always like,

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with these kids?

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Speaker 6: This is iconic?

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Speaker 2: This don't appreciate history, man, that's all that. Yeah, yep.

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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: And they're like, whoa, look at those washed sneakers.

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Speaker 2: They always say I have washed sneakers, but I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they are clean. Thanks, kids, just wash. Oh okay. And

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Speaker 2: Jersey Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Jersey, you know it is, you know, keeping with the

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Speaker 4: Jerry West theme. It is the the icy blue Lakers,

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Speaker 4: you know, like the Jerry West. I had the icy

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Speaker 4: blue Kobe eight back in like, yeah, yeah, so that's

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Speaker 4: my favorite throwback.

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Speaker 3: B Yeah, it's a beautiful jersey, it is. I love

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Speaker 3: blue and obviously the Lakers were purple and gold. So

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Speaker 3: whenever I had a chance to rock that, I will.

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Speaker 3: And Dragonfly Jones, that was a fantastic answer, but that

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Speaker 3: took entirely move on to the next question.

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting over here checking my non existent watch. Well

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Speaker 6: Jack's beard that grew looking like Methuselah.

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Speaker 1: Hello, who's there?

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Speaker 6: Uh? Dragonfly Jones? We are playing pick up with presidents

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Speaker 6: of these United States. I actually just took the first

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Speaker 6: pick and I took Obama. All presidents are in their

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Speaker 6: peak physical condition.

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Speaker 1: Who are you taking next?

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Speaker 2: Jerald Forderald.

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Speaker 4: He is perhaps the most accomplished athlete to ever service president.

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Speaker 4: He was an offensive lineman at Michigan. I know we're

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Speaker 4: talking basketball, but there's a certain brand of basketball that

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Speaker 4: football players play where where they do all the dirty work.

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Speaker 4: They sent screens, they rebound, they get put backs. You know,

881
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: the type of guy that you wanted your things. So

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Speaker 4: I'll probably go Jeryl Ford if Obama's.

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00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: Off the board.

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Speaker 1: God, they're taking Gerald Ford.

885
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Speaker 2: You guys like Obama, Man, you got to get Obama's way.

886
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: It's going to be the guy send screens for you.

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Speaker 6: I am a dirty work kind of player, and I

888
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 6: need somebody who's got a sweet jumper. And that's what

889
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 6: I'm That's why I took Obama first, and I'm going

890
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 6: to get in the middle and tussle with Ford.

891
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Speaker 2: Spend the fact that's gonna bros in it like Zerick,

892
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: like yeah, Zurich, and you're like, thank you, President, thank you,

893
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: thank you, sir.

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Speaker 6: Also, I feel like I'd be interested to see what

895
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Speaker 6: Lincoln could do, even though he was president before basketball

896
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 6: was each height. And also like he was famous when

897
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 6: he was a young person for being one of the

898
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 6: best wrestlers at that time. Like wrestling was just two

899
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 6: people enter a ring and whoever could knock the other

900
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 6: person off their feet would win. So I just like

901
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 6: he just had natural He naturally had that dog in him,

902
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 6: So Lincoln would have been interesting.

903
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: Lincoln did in fact have that dog in him in fact. Yeah, okay,

904
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Speaker 2: next question, Dragonfly.

905
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: One of these gotta go Little Penny Grandmama or Mars

906
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: Blackmon Grandmama.

907
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: And the only reason that Grandmama has to go is

908
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: because I got to say that the Larry Johnson converces

909
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 4: are the weakest out of that bunch and the great gimn.

910
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 4: I thought Grandmama was a great gimmick. I remember when

911
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 4: when you know, he even had the special appearance on

912
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: Family Matters, right yeah, yeah, yeah, great gimmick. But but

913
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: but but little Penny, Little Penny was hilarious. I love

914
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: those commercials. That's Tyra Banks food like that all the

915
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: top of his day, Mars Blackman with I mean, it's

916
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: just so wild to look back and realize there was

917
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: an ad campaign with Michael Jordan and Spike Lee at

918
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 4: a point in time, right, like that's just his but yeah,

919
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: so so yeah, I mean l LJ gets the cut

920
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: here unfore, Okay.

921
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 6: I actually just figured out that that is Larry Johnson

922
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: when you. When you just said that, I was like,

923
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 6: you are elderly advertising LJ shoes. You're like Grandma Ma,

924
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 6: who was selling cons with the react juice. That was

925
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 6: Larry Johnson.

926
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Speaker 4: No, and Larry Johnson Converse reacts where a rip off

927
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 4: of the Awkwa eights if you really really yes, yeah, yeah.

928
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: But you don't want to start that conversation, do you?

929
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: The NBA.

930
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: Always avoiding the hot topics.

931
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 6: That's right, yeah, all right, give us biggest sleeper team

932
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 6: heading into the season.

933
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: Biggest sleep team heading into the season.

934
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Hmmm, did you explain that?

935
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: It's a second. I know, that's okay.

936
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: Look, you did right.

937
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: He must be going through something I didn't want to now.

938
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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that we covered off

939
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: on everything.

940
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: No, we did, No, we did, we did, And I'm

941
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: just going being very rude to him on text so

942
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: the listeners don't have to be subjective.

943
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to go I'm gonna go with the hornets.

944
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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.

945
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: There were very few answers you could have given that

946
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 6: would have rendered me speechless. But that so that is

947
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 6: one where Vegas is up on them. They think they're

948
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 6: going to get more wins. And I was trying to

949
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 6: figure it out. So now you can explain it to me.

950
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: Why are we up on the Hornets.

951
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: I think their coach is going to turn things around there.

952
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: Charles Lee got who who was on the h He

953
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: was assistant on the on the Bucks championship squad, he

954
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: was an assistant on the Celtics championship squad. I think

955
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: he's got that pedigree there where he's going to turn

956
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: things around because I think they got the town.

957
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: I think LaMelo is incredible, but I just I.

958
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 4: Feel like LaMelo's suffering from that whole you know, empty stats,

959
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: you know label and and I think a guy like

960
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: Charlesley can come in there and turn things around and

961
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: maximize that team.

962
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: So I'm going with the Hornets. Man, Okay, I like that.

963
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: I do like that. That's a wind in myself.

964
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 6: LaMelo is has that reputation as an empty stats person,

965
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 6: but like gets everybody involved, does make his teammates better,

966
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: is fun to play with.

967
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: So like, that's that's a lot with me. That's that's

968
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: I don't care how empty your stats are, you fun

969
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: to look at.

970
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 6: He's playing really well, Like I could totally see that,

971
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 6: just like being infectious and like suddenly we're all like,

972
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: look at the hornets. Everybody right, Nobody was predicting this

973
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 6: except Dragonfly Jones.

974
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: Obviously.

975
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Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Well,

976
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Speaker 1: I think you nailed it right.

977
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: Those are all the right answers. He got you as

978
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: we look at all the table. Yeah, you did them

979
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: all man, And we tried to pressure him.

980
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 6: Too, but he is just stealing steally under pressure. Dragonfly Jones,

981
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 6: where can people find you?

982
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff?

983
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Dragonfly Jones.

984
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: You can find me three times a week with my

985
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 4: podcast co host the Jenkins and Jones on the Volume Network.

986
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: We're on YouTube, We're on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get

987
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: your podcasts.

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00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: All right, amazing miles where can they find you?

989
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: You can find me at Miles of Gray And you

990
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: can also find the hashtag Matt Boosty's bb st i

991
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: e s on Twitter. That's how you find show links

992
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: and updates. And that's how you joined the Discord Conversation too.

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00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 6: I'm on Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrian and that's another

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Speaker 6: one in the books.

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Speaker 2: We did it.

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00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 6: We nailed it. Swish from Way Downtown, Bye oh yeah

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Speaker 6: bye yeah sorry, bye,