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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love to tape two

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Speaker 1: opens in a single show. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here

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Speaker 1: with Jordan Rodrieg in the Chris Wesseleing podcast studio. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the podcast, you don't even know that

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Speaker 1: we already taped to complete podcasts that did not include

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Speaker 1: the news that Max Crosby is still a member of

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders announced just as we

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Speaker 1: wrapped up our show on Tuesday evening live on YouTube

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Channel that the Ravens have backed out

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Speaker 1: of their trade agreement with Max Crosby, and so in

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Speaker 1: a bit of good timing, we can tape our reaction

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Speaker 1: to that. And by the way, we've got some other

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Speaker 1: news we're gonna include here as well. But wow, there

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Speaker 1: are so many things to think about here, But I

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Speaker 1: think the first is to give some into the why

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Speaker 1: of why this would happen. And Mike Garriffolo of NFL

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Speaker 1: Network and other reporters do say that he failed a

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Speaker 1: physical with the Baltimore Ravens. Where do you want to start, Jordan, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm just just by the way, ignore all of our

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby coverage from Sunday night and Monday. We've got

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Speaker 1: some Trey Hendrickson talk that I think could be affected

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Speaker 1: later in this very show that also maybe ignore that

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Speaker 1: because it's all different now, we're in a different world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's stunning. They're such little precedent to

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Speaker 2: this type of thing happening. But trades are not official

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Speaker 2: until the start of the new league year on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and they can be obviously agreed upon well before that,

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Speaker 2: but they also are contingent upon passing a physical. I

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Speaker 2: believe was my colleague at the Athletic Diana Orsini, who's

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Speaker 2: reporting the failed physical. And then you know, the statement

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Speaker 2: right now, puts the onus directly on the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: We're backing out of the trade.

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Speaker 2: It says, the Baltimore Ravens have backed out of our

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Speaker 2: trade agreement for Max Crosby. We will have no further

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Speaker 1: So they didn't not exactly centered in like the about

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Speaker 1: the Kerning right now, a little wacky. It's a very

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Speaker 1: interesting statement. The Raiders have had different fascinating statements like

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Speaker 1: this in history. It kind of reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: it struck you that the Raiders were the ones that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did strike me that the Raiders were the

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Speaker 2: ones that put it out because again, it doesn't say

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Speaker 2: anything about it being the I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: it puts the onus on the Ravens for backing out

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Speaker 2: of the trade agreement, which by the way, sent in

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Speaker 2: multiple first round picks from the Ravens to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: So instead of saying anything obviously about the this situation

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Speaker 2: that led to the Ravens backing out, it is directly

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Speaker 2: interesting language, maybe a little salty.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. Let's put a pin in that,

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Speaker 1: and what it means for the picks, what it means

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Speaker 1: and at least just kind of close the loop on

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Speaker 1: you know why this would have happened. I immediately thought

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Speaker 1: of Ian Rappaport on this show at NFL Daily in

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a while for Crosby because guys

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Speaker 1: rarely get traded when they're coming back from a multi

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Speaker 1: and everyone remembers those clips that Crosby threw out of

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we are we are recording this so quickly

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Speaker 2: after this statement is released by the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 2: We don't have the Raven side yet. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: Why I hear a real reporter, but that's it both sides.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you don't you're right, you don't see

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Speaker 2: like that without Now you think I need to come

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Speaker 2: up with a statement of my own, you know, as

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Speaker 2: the reporting of the failed physical, so that that's fascinating

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Speaker 2: to me. This is obviously a very much developing situation.

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Speaker 3: But Greg, I do.

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Speaker 2: Want to talk about the ramifications here because obviously the

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Speaker 2: picks are significant. To have those picks and then to

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Speaker 2: other thing that happens here, and there's a long way

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Speaker 2: to go between what's happening right now and the overall

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Speaker 2: how this plays out in the results of this situation.

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Speaker 2: But if they were to actually have been have been

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Speaker 2: able to execute this trade, the Raiders have a ton

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Speaker 2: of cap space anyway, that's not necessarily a worry for them. However,

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Speaker 2: if it ends up having to be a cut, they

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance so go cut. In

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Speaker 1: the end, the question to me is like, basically, how

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Speaker 1: much less of an offer do they get, yeah, compared

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Speaker 2: That they get significantly, especially if it's out there like

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Speaker 1: at a letter lesser price. I'm glad you brought up

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Speaker 1: also don't think that we'd ever get to a point

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, And I think it's I

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Speaker 2: do think that the yes, every medical staff is different,

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Speaker 1: It's great leverage for the Cowboys or the Bills or

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Speaker 2: You know who this is actually the best case scenario

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Speaker 2: for Trey Hendrickson. Yeah, because it is. He still is unsigned.

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Speaker 2: Uh he and he clearly has you know, a market

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Speaker 1: It's it's really fascinating. You're coworker at the Athletic Diana

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Speaker 1: Russini basically said he has offered Trey Hendrickson and that

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Speaker 1: It's the Baltimore freaking Ravens. I mean, they've seen Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: influencing his decision to drop out of this Max Crosby race.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm just putting it out there. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: obviously he failed the physical, like I'm not questioning that

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Speaker 1: asking for ten million dollars more, according to Jonathan Jones

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Speaker 1: because you know that's what we do, that it was

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Speaker 1: maybe like he's asking for thirty three or he's asking

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Well, maybe the Ravens now look at that

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Speaker 1: two first, but I could give Trey Hendrickson twenty six

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Speaker 1: is less than we were going to pay Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to give up the picks. He's not

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Speaker 1: as good a player, he's a little older, certainly, but

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Speaker 1: all things considered, we save what's a difficult situation.

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Speaker 2: They probably do want to hurt the Bengals a little

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Speaker 2: With Lios Let's commercial star Teddy Bridgewater, who recently got

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Speaker 1: Right, Teddy, Right, This would normally be at the end

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Speaker 1: Greg rose Thal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio

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Speaker 3: That's what we love the most audio medium, Greg.

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Speaker 1: the minimum, a couple million dollars more than the minimum,

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Speaker 1: and sending in a pick swap because they wanted to

435
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Speaker 1: get their guy, Geno Smith back. If you had told

436
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Speaker 1: Jets fans in twenty six, at the end of his

437
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Speaker 1: career there that they would be getting him back a

438
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Speaker 1: decade later, I think it would have blown their mind.

439
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, I just remember how sour

440
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Speaker 2: some Jets fans were about Gino Smith and then sour

441
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: watching him go and thrive in Seattle, and then just

442
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: the lore of Gino has been a little bit of

443
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Speaker 2: a painful, sometimes bittersweet one one. I think that some

444
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Speaker 2: can rise above, obviously and just be happy for the

445
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: guy when he was succeeding in Seattle. You did see,

446
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: you know, a couple people still Jets fans, and there's

447
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Speaker 2: a lot of them online, and I feel for him

448
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: because they they go through it seems like every every year.

449
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Speaker 2: And I can't believe I'm saying this, Greg, but I'm

450
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: kind of stoked for Gino that he's going to play

451
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: behind this offensive line compared to what he had just

452
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Speaker 2: went through last season with the Raiders.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah. He had a text, let's put that up on

454
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Speaker 1: the screen again that you look Geno Smith. He sent

455
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: it to Ian Rappaport. I'm a little jealous that rap

456
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: sheet's just on text. Relationship with you, complete full circle

457
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: moment back to where it all began. I'm excited to

458
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: connect with my new teammates and coaches, everyone in the building,

459
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: as well as a new relationship with the fan base

460
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Speaker 1: and community, and other statements. He said. He spoke with

461
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn. That meant a lot to him and that

462
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: helped convince him that this was the right place for him.

463
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: This is not a popular move for the most part

464
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: in New York and with the just because just like

465
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Speaker 1: what are we doing here? But I do think he

466
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Speaker 1: was the best available player. I wanted different for Gino

467
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: as a fan. Minnesota was a better option, But I

468
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Speaker 1: act like a fan more with Gino and different players

469
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Speaker 1: that you really love to watch over the years than

470
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Speaker 1: I do I think with any team situated. So I've

471
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Speaker 1: quickly now turned the corner and have convinced myself to

472
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Speaker 1: your point, really good offensive line, although they lost Elijah

473
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Speaker 1: Arraa Tucker, we'll get to that in a minute. You

474
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Speaker 1: got Garrett Wilson, Breest Hall, Mason Taylor. Need a little more, frankly,

475
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: just need a little more. And you have the Frank

476
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: Reich offense, which you know, maybe that that could work.

477
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't going to be too high on

478
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: the Frank Reke offense, but if you think about how

479
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: the best version of the Frank Reke offense and really

480
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: counting on the quarterback to make smart decisions and throwing

481
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Speaker 1: over the middle of the field, and maybe it doesn't

482
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Speaker 1: require the biggest arm in the world, like maybe that

483
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Speaker 1: that works for Gino Smith. Like on a football level,

484
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Speaker 1: I do think this was the best that they were

485
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Speaker 1: going to do, and they're not paying any money for it,

486
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Speaker 1: So Jets fans calm down. Well.

487
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Speaker 2: And also, none of these things, especially when a veteran

488
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Speaker 2: is either traded for or signed in free agency and

489
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Speaker 2: we'll get to some of those other guys in a minute,

490
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Speaker 2: and cheaply done by the way, that's never in a vacuum, like,

491
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Speaker 2: it doesn't preclude the Jets from doing something else at

492
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Speaker 2: the position in the draft. I think when you look

493
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Speaker 2: at all these moves that they've made, if you look

494
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Speaker 2: at them in a vacuum, it is a little confusing

495
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Speaker 2: what they're actually trying to do.

496
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Speaker 3: Are they trying to compete?

497
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Speaker 2: Are they actually just set resetting the floor of their roster,

498
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Speaker 2: which I think they're doing with Gino Smith. I think

499
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Speaker 2: that gives them stability at the position, and it doesn't

500
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Speaker 2: preclude them from going after a quarterback in the draft

501
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Speaker 2: because people keep forgetting how many freaking picks they have

502
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: too good point, and so packaging those together is something

503
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: that every competent team does all the time. Are the

504
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Speaker 2: Jets ready to be competent as they turn their attention

505
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Speaker 2: to the draft.

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Speaker 1: The problem is there aren't many great quarterbacks in this draft,

507
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Speaker 1: so maybe it's packaging picks in the next draft. Ye.

508
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: I just think of the journey, and I think about

509
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Speaker 1: my own journey. Look. I wrote an article back in

510
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen entitled making the Leap Number nineteen Gino Smith.

511
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Speaker 1: Little did I know it took eleven seasons for him

512
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Speaker 1: to actually get a real shot, because of course, the

513
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: way his Jets' career ended was so sad. First you

514
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: had the punch in the locker room, Ik and them

515
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Polly and he misses that season. It becomes a magical

516
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Speaker 1: season for Ryan Fitzpatrick. And then what I think people

517
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Speaker 1: don't forget was he was still on the team the

518
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Speaker 1: next year. He's the backup. He then gets to start

519
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: because I think Fitzpatrick got hurt or bench I should

520
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: have checked that. But he tears his ACL immediately. It's

521
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Speaker 1: a big setback for his season, and now here he

522
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Speaker 1: is eleven sea later. And I wanted better for him

523
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Speaker 1: because this is either gonna be incredible or it's gonna

524
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: be terrible. Because it's either gonna have a moment where Gino,

525
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: who's been great at the fourth quarter comebacks, has the

526
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Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium chantingly gene no, Gene no. And for men

527
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Speaker 1: of a certain age, Gino Smith fans of a certain age,

528
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Speaker 1: I mean that is a magical thought. For the Jets fan,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, for full circle, he's used the words full circle,

530
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: it was so painful. It's conquering, like really tough demons

531
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Speaker 1: back then there is another, you know, route that this

532
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: could go, because this team, it's a big uphill battle

533
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Speaker 1: where it'd be a depressing coda to his career and

534
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Speaker 1: a reminder that, like things aren't fair always in the NFL,

535
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Speaker 1: you don't get the story books, so there'll probably be

536
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. I think there'll be some moments,

537
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Speaker 1: but you're probably not making the playoffs or anything like that.

538
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Speaker 1: But I have hope.

539
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Speaker 2: I have hope, And they could have done a lot

540
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: worse for a guy who probably will be a bridge

541
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Speaker 2: to the next guy for them and probably that guy

542
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: coming via the draft at some point in the next

543
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Speaker 2: couple of years.

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Speaker 3: They could have done a lot worse. And you know

545
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Speaker 3: what he is.

546
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Speaker 2: You know, I covered some of those Raiders games for

547
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: the athletic this year, Greg, and it was a disaster immediately,

548
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: that entire offense and it was not a fit with

549
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly. All of our hopes and expectations were awful.

550
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: The offensive line was worse than we ever thought possible.

551
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: And then there was all the infighting that happened there

552
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 2: clearly after you know, that led to Pete Carroll's and

553
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: sons dismissal. But Gino kind of sat and took it

554
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: all and was a great spokesman and leader for the

555
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Speaker 2: team regardless.

556
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Speaker 3: And so whatever happens.

557
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: The outlier for good, the outlier bad, or probably what

558
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about, which is a little chaotic neutral happening

559
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: in New Jersey right now, he will wear it well

560
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: and he'll be a really good figurehead for that team

561
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: right now as they're in transition.

562
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the other you know, shoot a drop

563
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: at the position, could be adding a rookie, certainly in

564
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Speaker 1: the middle round on something like that. The reporting in

565
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: New York is that Carson Wentz is expected to be

566
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: the backup, which is just a.

567
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: Wild, chaotic neutral where.

568
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: Is it the wild quarterback room? But Carson Wentz has

569
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Speaker 1: the history with Frank Reich, and yes, I did appreciate

570
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: the members of Geno Nation coming together on Tuesday and

571
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: saying a lot of what you said about the Raiders.

572
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: We actually had some fun stats here. Twenty first and

573
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Speaker 1: completion percentage over expected out of forty one qualifiers, right

574
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Speaker 1: in the middle, ahead of a guy that you might

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: have heard of, Patrick Mahomes, seventh in on target rate

576
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: according to I don't even remember where, but seventh in

577
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: on target rate. And then this was the one I

578
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Speaker 1: really liked. FDN Fantasy said that Gino had seven more

579
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: interceptions than expected. They have a stat called interception surplus

580
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: over expected. We're making up new stats for Gino Smith.

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Speaker 1: He was by far the most interceptions that you wouldn't

582
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Speaker 1: have expected, Like they said, he should have had about ten,

583
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: and he had seventeen.

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Speaker 3: So we're depending on how you frame that.

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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: We're back on board. I feel so strange because I'm

586
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: rooting for Malik Willis to be good. That's the Dolphins,

587
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: and now I'm a Jets fan. It's going to be

588
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: a short marriage of inconvenience. But the AFC East is where.

589
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're so happy to have Greg, longtime Patriots

590
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: fan Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Devin Lloyd is going to the Carolina Panthers. Big news.

592
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: By the way, I should have mentioned Naeon Wright going

593
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: to the Jets as well. Very cheap one year up

594
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: to five million dollar contract for the cornerback who had

595
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: all those interceptions what he had five last year for

596
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: the Jets and uh yeah, that's I mean for the Bears.

597
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: That's five more than the Jets had last year. I

598
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: have a feeling the actual contract is much less than

599
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: up to Let's go to Devin Lloyd with the Panthers

600
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: that this happened on Monday Night. We're going to do

601
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: a mix of Monday Night and in Tuesday News. Three years,

602
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: forty five million dollars, twenty five million dollars guaranteed, was

603
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: a top ten player on my overall top one on one,

604
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: my top linebacker. The NFL kind of disagreed with my

605
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: evaluation in terms of finances. In terms of Devin Lloyd,

606
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Speaker 1: he gets a very similar contract to what Nikobe Dean

607
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: and kway Walker got in Vegas, and not much more

608
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: than a couple of the other guys in the middle

609
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: tier of the market that we'll get to. I actually

610
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: think they kind of set the floor for him to

611
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: get this money financially. But I think it's a great

612
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Speaker 1: fit with the Panthers, a fit that you saw coming.

613
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and one that I really hoped would work out,

614
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Speaker 2: not just because I predicted it in our free agency

615
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: match maker.

616
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: You're on the board, I'm on the boards.

617
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Speaker 1: The defensive battle. We just have one pick.

618
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Speaker 2: Right, and I'm so far winning what we deemed to

619
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Speaker 2: be the tie breaker, which is the height height advantage

620
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Speaker 2: not agreed to that. I am very much taller than

621
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Speaker 2: yourself and Colleen Wolf, so I'm so far in the

622
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Speaker 2: lead in that, and also in terms of like the

623
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Speaker 2: closeness to the atmosphere.

624
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Speaker 1: And all of that.

625
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Speaker 2: So I love this because what I mentioned, even a

626
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks when we came out of the combine,

627
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: I just got this sense from Panthers, from Dan Morgan,

628
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: especially a famous, storied former linebacker himself, that it's just

629
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: he's just been holding himself back while they've attended to

630
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: other areas of their team build, from really going out

631
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Speaker 2: and getting a core inside linebacker, someone who he you know,

632
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: really takes pride and evaluating someone who can bring that

633
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: he can bring in and really set the tone right

634
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: up the middle of that defense where they've had a

635
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: lot of success with the perimeter corners especially, they're adding

636
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: to their perimeter pass rush. They already have Derek Brown

637
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: in the middle up front, but the back end of

638
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: that of that front seven and then the back end

639
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: of that secondary needs a field marshal. Essentially, Devin Lloyd

640
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: is that person, is that player, and I just think

641
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: that he is. He's such a fit here and fit

642
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: in that defense because they don't ask their inside linebackers

643
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: to do everything. They ask more of their safeties often

644
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: and then their slot players. Then they're inside linebacker, but

645
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: they will ask him to be really active in the

646
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: past in terms of disrupting pass plays and obviously stout

647
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: against the run. But because they play the front structure

648
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: that they that they do, I think you're going to

649
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: see a lot more activity from him in the past game.

650
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Speaker 1: And I couldn't help, and I know this isn't how

651
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Speaker 1: these things work, but think of former you know, PFF

652
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: employee Devin Lloyd now working in the in the you

653
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: know part of the Panthers front office, and I'm thinking,

654
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: like they had him as the number four Eric Eager.

655
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: Eric Eager, you just give me, Derek, Devin Lloyd and

656
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: Eric Eager. I was like, FFF, employd Derek, Devin Lloyd.

657
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Where's he going with.

658
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd of course a favorite of PFF, ye favorite

659
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe Eric. He's a top five linebacker according to PFF,

660
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: and I really thought he was dynamic. I thought he

661
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: improved the year before. And the money, like I said,

662
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: I think it ends up being a bargain. Maybe he's

663
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: a little more I don't think he's more boom er

664
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: bust than those other linebackers. So I think it's a

665
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: really good value, even if you.

666
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: Don't get the production he had last year.

667
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's so cool for him in general,

668
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: he bet on himself. They weren't gonna they weren't initially

669
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: going to pick up the option on him, and then

670
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: he went out and he proved to everybody what he

671
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: was capable of. I think, even if you get somewhere

672
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: in the middle of this, or you get slightly less production,

673
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: if we can look at that season possibly as an outlier,

674
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: which realists will do, especially with defense with fluctuate so

675
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: much year over year, Like you still are very very

676
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: happy with the traits with how he fits in this defense.

677
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: With the leadership and also with you know, you have

678
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: to feel some of that success as a player. You

679
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: have to taste what that feels like, and he definitely

680
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: did last season.

681
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: They also cut Ashawn Robinson there, and I think it'll

682
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: be positioned as like the Panthers are going all in

683
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: huge money on Jalen Phillips, big money on Devin Lloyd.

684
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: To me, Jalen Phillips is the risk. Jalen Phillips is

685
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: just a massive injury risk and a high ceiling player.

686
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: But also you know, for thirty million dollars a year,

687
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: that's up there with the very best of the best.

688
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: To me, that is taken big swing. Devin Lloyd is

689
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: just is just good business. Let's go to the Patriots. Well,

690
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: we'll see if you think they did good business. Romeo

691
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: Dobbs is in the building. Hilariously, his contract was reported

692
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: by four different outlets as four totally different contracts. But

693
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: we believe no matter what mergers are happening in Ian Rappaport,

694
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: and he's got it at four years, seventy million. We'll

695
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: see kind of what the guarantees are and it's probably

696
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: more about the first two years, but good money for

697
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs, but not crazy. Definitely not more than you

698
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: would expect, I mean less than Wandale Robinson got, for instance.

699
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: And they also gave Elijah Vera Tucker twenty one million

700
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed on a three year, forty two million dollar contract.

701
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Interesting wide receiver group they got going there. You got

702
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: rid of digs, but you you still have Kayshaun Boody,

703
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: who's a real guy. Matt Collins, who's who's kind of

704
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: that perfect as you would say, dig you out phrasing

705
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Kyle Williams, who's another fun, little deep threat.

706
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Just a lot of guys there, and yet Cameron Wolf

707
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: from the NFL Network says, don't rule out aj Brown

708
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: still that they still might be in that mix. What

709
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: do you think about how Dobbs fits in with this group?

710
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: I love this fit.

711
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: It kind of goes back to conversation you and I

712
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: had a couple of days ago, as it days or

713
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: weeks at some time ago in the spring, where a

714
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: team that really is looking for a younger version of

715
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: a player they already had will depend on some of

716
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: the traits that that older player showcased for them within

717
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: their system. In order to understand maybe how to correctly

718
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: identify that younger player, and Romeo Dobbs is absolutely going

719
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: to slot in right war stuff on Diggs left off.

720
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: He can really work the intermedia areas in the field.

721
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: He is really really strong through traffic. He has a

722
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: great catch radius, and he could be a red zone

723
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: threat as well. And he's just really precise and very

724
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: sharp in his route running and in his movements, and

725
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: so I just think that he immediately fits this offense.

726
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: It's exactly in the same way that Stefan Diggs did,

727
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: just a younger version.

728
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, much younger. And I love that point about he

729
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: can work inside and out and he's strung like great hands.

730
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: It's one thing I think they look for in receivers.

731
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: I said it all last year, like this is a

732
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: great pass catching receiving group. It's not a great separation

733
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: receiving group, but at the catch point, it's a group

734
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: of guys with really good hands. Eftin Chisholm. Let's throw

735
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: him into the mix too. So I really like Dobbs

736
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: being an addition here, and they're paying them at a

737
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: level that to me does not smack of like super

738
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: free agent. You know, inflation. If the Packers had given

739
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: him this contract, you would just thought, like, okay, that

740
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: makes sense. Vera Tucker is a much bigger risk because

741
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: he's missed, you know, more than half the games of

742
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: his NFL career. But two of those were to biceps

743
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: and triceps injuries, which just seem fluky in a way.

744
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. They've both happened, but they're not injuries

745
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: that you think like are gonna happen again. And they're

746
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: also injuries that, unlike like a knee or a hamstring

747
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: of stuff, they don't they don't necessarily cause any lag,

748
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: long term damage overall, Like this is a boomer Bus

749
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: contract if there ever was one. He was Brandon Thorne's

750
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: number one offensive lineman available in free agency. He was

751
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: in my top fifteen overall. I think if you just

752
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: look at his average game played in the NFL, and

753
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: he's played at right tackle, and he's played at guard,

754
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: which is where I think the Patriots will start him.

755
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: But he'll be an option if Morgan moses, you know

756
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: he'll be an option at tackle too. If you looked

757
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: at his average game, he's the best offensive line and

758
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: I think available in free agency. But a huge, a

759
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: huge risk because of the injuries, and it sounded like

760
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: the Jets were in on him, maybe giving him as

761
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: much or more money, and he just wanted out of

762
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: there because, like the he just wanted a fresh start.

763
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: Where the vibes would be vibes refresh.

764
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I the Patriots had to do something,

765
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: even if it was a risky swing. It's a big

766
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: swing and if it works out for them, and they

767
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: had to do something with their offensive line. That is

768
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: the most recent memory that every fan, every coach, every

769
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: player on that team has is what happened to that

770
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: offensive line in the Super Bowl. They had to do

771
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: something to address this.

772
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: And he because he plays multiple positions, like he could

773
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: fill different spots depending on what you need. Right now,

774
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: I think he's probably at left guard where Jared Wilson was,

775
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: and he's moving the center. You have Mike Ownhu at

776
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: right guard. You know, Barret Tucker's best position probably was

777
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: right guard, so that's you know, you're moving him into

778
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: different positions, but who knows, maybe he'll take over for

779
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Will Campbell at some point. Either way, I love it.

780
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: I love it for them and I love it for him.

781
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: It made me really happy. When I saw the contract terms,

782
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I thought he might have to take a below market

783
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: prove it deal coming off the injury, but he didn't.

784
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: He really got great guard money, and I think the

785
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Patriots decided to like give him all that money thinking

786
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: if he actually hits, it's gonna be a great value Funday.

787
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: Really a solid I think free agency period so far

788
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Reeq Willin back in the mix with

789
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: a big time team, the Philadelphia Eagle. Those dirty dogs

790
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: are on the board. They were one of the few

791
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: teams that had yet to sign an outside free agent

792
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: yet have the Broncos. I don't think they have. The

793
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: Wreek Woolen signing to the Eagles is for fifteen million

794
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: dollars max contract. Not seeing a lot of details on

795
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: the other reporting, I'm guessing it's significantly less than fifteen million.

796
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Interesting that the market wasn't there for Rik Woland like

797
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: it was for a lot of lesser known cornerbacks like

798
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: let's say a Cordell.

799
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: Flop, Alante Taylor. I mean we know him, but like I.

800
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Mean, hell, he he got more money than any free

801
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: agent cornerback in history. I'm even thinking of a who

802
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: was Eric Stokes got three thirty. Benjamin Saint just had

803
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: a similar type of contract to Rik Woolan, but what

804
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: a potential fit as the outside cornerback, kind of filled

805
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: that Adorri Jackson role opposite Quinjon Mitchell.

806
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, this is something that we want a fan cam,

807
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: I like extrapolate just him and also maybe one on

808
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio up in the booth. And I want to

809
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: watch this all season. I just want that streaming like

810
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: live all season because this is so fascinating to me.

811
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: When I see reports come out of a signing of

812
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: a really talented player with huge upside and obviously it's

813
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: been a little streaky and all of that, but huge

814
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: upside here and it's set it's framed as worth up

815
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: to fifteen million, I'm thinking, what red flags? You know,

816
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: that's a that's a red flag wrapped in a contract

817
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: right there.

818
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: I think that his up and down career, like look,

819
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: it was sometimes great for Seattle, it was sometimes not

820
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: as great, but this season was really good. Like his

821
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: numbers in terms of yards per target, yards per you know,

822
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: snap on the field are awesome and awesome plays are

823
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: really good. I think maybe people were a little worried

824
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: about the fact that Josh job got ahead of him

825
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: that you know, he was a Mike McDonald product, but

826
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: he was at his best with Pete Carroll. And I

827
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: think this is a great bet on himself. So I

828
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: think this is a great move by the Eagles who

829
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: believe that they can coach him up. And they are

830
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: all about like size, weight, speed at that, like.

831
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: They've oh, he's a perfect fit traits wise for that.

832
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Right, they can get the most out of him. And

833
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: I think they probably without knowing anything, maybe like there's

834
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: a very real chance they had a two or three

835
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: year offer for him, and he was like, hey, I

836
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: want to do that, Like I'm ready to do this.

837
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: Let's do it for one year. I'm going to bet

838
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: on myself get to free agency because I'm going to

839
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: show that I'm a great cornerback. And it's a great

840
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: situation where he is going to.

841
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: Get target, get to see the ball a lot, yeah,

842
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: a lot.

843
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: And man, the Eagles have been so quiet they struck

844
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: out on Jalen Phillips. I think this is going to

845
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: be a sneaky, really good move.

846
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think they've been so quiet because they're furiously

847
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: working behind the scenes to try to get an AJ

848
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: Brown trade happening.

849
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: I think that's happening. I think they're gonna have and

850
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: and they've watched a lot of people go out the door,

851
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: right Jalen Phillips and Nikobe Dean and read Blanken Chip

852
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are leaving. I still think

853
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: they're going to be very active with a lot of

854
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: changes coming up. Will they get into the linebacker mark

855
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: probably not because of who they drafted last year. The

856
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker market did take off right before we

857
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: started taping. Caden Ellis to the Saints three years, thirty

858
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: three million dollars twenty three million dollars guaranteed, and then

859
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: Leo Chanell soon after that to the Commanders. And I

860
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: am guessing without any knowledge that these things are connected

861
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: because to me, they are filling very similar roles in

862
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: a defense. And then once one guy was off the board,

863
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: they were both you know, top fifty players on my list.

864
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: They're linebackers who really rushed the passer well. And once

865
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: Ellis was off the board, I think Chanelle then had

866
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: his home with the Commanders. What do you think about

867
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Cayden Ellis returning to where it all started? Now this

868
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: is just another just warm bath of a Saints move

869
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm loving with I know.

870
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: I know, I am very, very cautiously optimistic about what

871
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: the Saints are doing this free agency. Did you see

872
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: today there were reports out of New Orleans that actually

873
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: one of their contract acquisitions has no void years attached

874
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: to it.

875
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this doesn't either twenty three million dollar.

876
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: Day for the Saints.

877
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: That's incredible, it's awesome, and Kayden Ellis for people who

878
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: forgot like he was awesome for the Saints. It was

879
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: a different defense. But obviously, I think Kellen Moore and

880
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: the Saints there's a lot of crossover between them and

881
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: the Falcons in terms of staff and what the Falcons

882
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: were doing defensively, and I think Cayden Ellis steps in

883
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: there and really helps.

884
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: Out this defensive scheme, particularly the way that Brandon Staley

885
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: likes to run it. They use this type of player

886
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: as sort of this hybrid pass rusher, but also as

887
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: a hook player who can drop into coverage and who

888
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: will play in a lot of different positions. And I

889
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: can definitely see kitan Ellis being one of those players

890
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: and just kind of beefing up and adding not just

891
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: to their off ball linebacker room, but also like their

892
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: pass rush as well, and getting just a little bit

893
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: more dynamism, versatility, different looks, different ways you can overload

894
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 2: your fronts, even if you're playing with a light front,

895
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: the way that Brandon Staley likes to do.

896
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: I just think this is gonna be really interesting.

897
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned how they liked a fourth round pick from

898
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: a year ago, Danny Katutsman.

899
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: They love that guy.

900
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: Pete Warner has been a little disappointing since he signed

901
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: a big contract, but ultimately I think you need three linebackers,

902
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: and so I expect Pete Warner to stay. Leo Chanelle

903
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: was a fascinating free agent to me in general. Just

904
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: an explosive, awesome pass rusher and just unique skill set.

905
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: Guy who sometimes would be the spy on Lamar Jackson

906
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs but never got over five hundred snaps.

907
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: And he goes to a Derante Jones dan Quinn defense

908
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: for the Commanders. They've been very active. I think that'll

909
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: be a fun pairing. Let's go to the Texans who

910
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: signed Brayden Smith two years, twenty million dollars for the

911
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: ex Indianapolis Colts and where he just keep ticking these

912
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: players off. We might get to breaking this down later, Jordan,

913
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: but only three of my top thirty players originally are

914
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: still available, and here's three more we just mentioned from

915
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: my top fifty. There's not many players. It happened faster

916
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: than ever. And Braden Smith I had right around fifty

917
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: thinking he'd be a right tackle. I think he might

918
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: be a guard with the Texans. That's what he played

919
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: in college. I think it's similar where maybe they'll just

920
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: figure it out as they go. But Texans, we wanted

921
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: them to fix their offensive line. They said goodbye to

922
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Titus Howard. They bringing Braiden Smith.

923
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Not to be that guy, but like shorter arms, so

924
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: play mcguard.

925
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what people thought in terms of Uh, you mentioned.

926
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: An other player that's been in the in the news

927
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: about that earlier.

928
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: So not to assault in the wound on that one there.

929
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: Well, Campbell you're referring to. And Braten Smith's an interesting

930
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: case because they drafted him in Indianapolis like a garden, and

931
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: then they had to use him at right tackle and

932
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: then it just kept working out so well he was

933
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: there for most of a decade.

934
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: Well, he's a zone he's like better with his zone

935
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: blocking and so I think, and that's obviously you know,

936
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: Nick Kayley is going to run a lot of these

937
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: zone concepts and everything. So I do think his movement skills,

938
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: even even without like recent experience at the guard position,

939
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: because of necessity, Like, yeah, I think it's absolutely a

940
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: fit because you're going to be asked to move like

941
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: a tackle in some of your run sets.

942
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, they're making progress. The Browns are back on the

943
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: offensive lineboard. We've just been tracking this as each signing

944
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: comes in. They came into the off season with no

945
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: starters on the offensive line, and then each day they

946
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: just tick off another one. And this time it's Elton Jenkins,

947
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: the former Packer who was just officially released and then

948
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: signed right away twenty million dollars guaranteed two years, twenty

949
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: four million dollars. He's been a Pro Bowl, he's been

950
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: an alternate All Pro. He's played at center, he's played

951
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: at guard, he's played at tackle. I just talked to

952
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger over in the newsroom about him. He thought

953
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: it's a really good signing. I do as well. The

954
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Browns have now ticked off for starting spots because they

955
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: also re signed Tevin Jenkins who played pretty well for

956
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: them as a fill and guard last year, and so

957
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: we'll see how it works. But on paper, actually I

958
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: like what they've done on the offensive line. Let's go

959
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: to the Lions, who decided to replace David Montgomery with

960
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: an interesting, like stylistic match. Isaiah Pacheco, the former chief

961
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: is a member of the Lions. What do you think.

962
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: I can't quite see how this is gonna all shake

963
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: out other than the fact that I think he's talented,

964
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: but it kind of hints to him maybe they're changing

965
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: a little bit about how they want to run the ball,

966
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: you know, and.

967
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: He kind of like a Montgomery basically he gets that

968
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: short yardage.

969
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is, But I also I also think that

970
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: like if they were gonna, you know, still move on

971
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: for David Montgomery, I mean Pachecko is obviously, you know,

972
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: built similarly and has that physicality. But I always saw

973
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: him as like, you know, he's gonna get move a

974
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: lot and get basically either at or less than the

975
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: yards to you and need him to get, but there's

976
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of energy and effort put into it,

977
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: and then he's great in the screen game.

978
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: Well, there was pre injury Pachecko, who was an intriguing

979
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: young player and then they were post injury Pachecko, who

980
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: to me has been a replacement level player who I

981
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: wasn't sure was going to have a future in the league.

982
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: So to me, like, it's not a lock that he

983
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: makes the Lions, but I haven't haven't even seen the contract,

984
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: but he's an interesting name. You never know. Sometimes just

985
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: got to be a year or two away from that

986
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: injury to play your best. The Giants have signed Greg

987
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: Newsom at cornerback for ten million dollars. Like I said, like,

988
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom is getting the same amount of money as

989
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: as Riquell and that we talked about before. They also

990
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: brought back Micah McFadden. And while we're talking Chiefs, we

991
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: didn't hit that Aloe Gillman three years, twenty four million

992
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: dollars for the safety fifteen million dollars guaranteed last night.

993
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: They also give Taekwon Thornton two years eleven million dollars.

994
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: How about Taekwon Thornton turning his career round as kind

995
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: of like a third fourth receiver for the Chiefs. My

996
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: big takeaway here is that that Aloe Gilman for a

997
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Dafeoway trade where both players were kind of on the

998
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: outs a looie. Gilman wasn't even playing that much for

999
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers made both of those players so much money.

1000
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: I can't remember a trade like that where two guys

1001
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: whose stock was sinking get traded for each other one

1002
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: for one, and then three months later they're making huge money.

1003
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: So bully to them.

1004
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's a confluence of factors.

1005
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: One, it's great when it is very clear that you're

1006
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: wanted by a good football team, and then which is

1007
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: what happened with both of these players. And then also

1008
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have a lot of work to do in

1009
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: their secondary. So I like this signing because again he's

1010
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: kind of one of those reset guys. I expect them

1011
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: to hammer the draft all throughout their secondary. But also

1012
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: he is one of those like reset players where you're

1013
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, what's our baseline here? We need to

1014
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: invest in a baseline and then build around from there

1015
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: with young players.

1016
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: I like him too, and I always defer to Steve Spagnolo.

1017
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure Yilman would not be going there if Spagnola

1018
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: didn't approve it. But the whole by low sell high thing,

1019
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: like they're buying really high on a guy if he

1020
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: had hit free agency a little while ago, might be

1021
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: like one year, three million dollars. I don't know what

1022
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: the chiefs are doing outside of that Kenneth Walker move.

1023
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We have a little bit

1024
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: more news to get to, and then we're gonna talk

1025
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: about some questions we are asking going into day three

1026
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: of free agency, including Brian Thomas, Junior, AJ Brown, Kyler Murray,

1027
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: who's gonna get Trey Hendrickson. There's still some big names

1028
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: out here. We're gonna take a break here. If you're

1029
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: on YouTube, we'll be back in just a second, back

1030
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily Audible. During the break, let's just get

1031
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: to the questions we're still asking about reading and we'll

1032
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: hit a bit of the lighter news at the end

1033
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: of the show. What's up with Kyler? Here we are

1034
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: in a world where, like I said, there's only three

1035
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: of my top thirty players overall available now and that

1036
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: was true basically after twelve hours, which is just crazy.

1037
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyler, that's the highest rank. Yeah, they're going off

1038
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: the list. There's still about like forty five total from

1039
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: the one oh one, and there's like twenty from the

1040
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: top fifty, a lot of guys thirty to fifty. But

1041
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: why hasn't the Kyler Murray move happened? And do we

1042
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: just assume it's Minnesota to the latter?

1043
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: I do think that's the strongest candidate right now. I

1044
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: mean it.

1045
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's just no point in smoke screening any of this.

1046
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes the most obvious answer to the question is the

1047
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: correct one. Minnesota needs a veteran quarterback. They kick the

1048
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: tires on a couple of other veteran quarterback options as

1049
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: free agency began. They are probably gonna go with one

1050
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: of the cheapest ones with such a high ceiling in

1051
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

1052
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: It just feels too obvious to not happen.

1053
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: And there was a report a couple of them different

1054
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: people said this that you know Kyler and his age,

1055
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: they're like doing things the right way because technically the

1056
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals haven't released them. They haven't even announced their release.

1057
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: And someone pointed out to me mantyasen Fort and the

1058
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: Cardinals actually did get in trouble previously for tampering, and

1059
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: so they haven't sent anything out and so maybe they

1060
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: all are waiting. It's just so quiet. There's also no

1061
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: other spots like that is the one place where there's

1062
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: a starting job just open and no matter what they

1063
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: think about JJ McCarthy, they've you know, made it clear

1064
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: publicly that that job is open, that JJ McCarthy will

1065
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: be competing for it. But yeah, it's like a marriage, well,

1066
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, like a girlfriend. Once you're considering other options,

1067
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's probably not gonna end that

1068
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: well for you, you know what I mean. You know,

1069
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: I mean out of mariage maybe like a you know, relationship.

1070
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: Sadly, I do know what you mean, Greg, if we

1071
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: want to, I'm.

1072
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Just saying you're talking about other potential quarterbacks at a podium,

1073
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: saying like, listen, here's he's got a great sign.

1074
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1075
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 2: I do think that there are a lot of people

1076
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 2: in that Minnesota Vikings building.

1077
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't just think this, I know this.

1078
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people in the Vikings building

1079
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: that are not ready to give up on the JJ

1080
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: McCarthy experience. They think that he's just so young that

1081
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: the injuries, uh, you know, can mess with a young

1082
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: player's head at times, and and just really want to

1083
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: see who he becomes after all of this, right, And

1084
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: I think that that's important. You're led by the head

1085
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: coach who has basically preached patients and developing quarterbacks, has

1086
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: become the face of those comments that he made a

1087
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: couple of years ago in that regard.

1088
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 3: And the other thing.

1089
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: Is is on the Kyler situation, I really think that

1090
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: some of this might actually be Kyler wants to go

1091
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: see what the best fit for him was.

1092
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1093
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: Do I really think that there are gonna be multiple

1094
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: teams who will also say, hey, would you like to

1095
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: come be a backup for us for a year, maybe

1096
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: sign a two year deal or even a one year deal.

1097
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 2: Rehab your sort of like mental here, Get just get

1098
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: clear of the mess that that ended up becoming in Arizona.

1099
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: Make sure that your body's healthy.

1100
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: He dealt with some injuries last year quote unquote as

1101
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: well that the team was cagy about. Is why I

1102
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: say that and really understand, like, what's the best launch

1103
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: point for me moving forward?

1104
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: Is it starting somewhere right now?

1105
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: Or is it taking my time being wooed a little

1106
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: bit being seeing what the best like overall holistic fit

1107
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: for me in my next chapter of my career. As

1108
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: he continues, like we all do, God willing to get

1109
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: older and to really understand what that will look like,

1110
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: and not just what it looks like this year, but

1111
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: what it looks like after this year.

1112
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Well, the two teams that stand out there are the

1113
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Rams and the Chiefs. You know, the Chiefs would be

1114
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: a spicy place for him to go to quarterback school

1115
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid. Don't know if that there's interest there

1116
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: for me side. And then the Rams. You kind of

1117
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: laid it out as a potential, you know option if

1118
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, just to go through the mcbase, you know,

1119
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: quarterback school. We got to move on though. The interesting

1120
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: thing here is there are other quarterbacks out there, Like

1121
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is still sitting out there. We are waiting

1122
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: to find out about Aaron Rodgers. I do think everyone

1123
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: assumes he's just going back to the Steelers. So Cousins

1124
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: might be the guy who's kind of left without a spot.

1125
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: If Kyler ends up going to the Vikings, maybe Cousins

1126
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: is the backup option for the Vikings. Let's talk about

1127
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: the wide receiver market. Aj brown I mentioned earlier, could

1128
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: have a Patriots market. Still, there was some reporting that

1129
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: basically the Patriots were the only team maybe showing significant interests,

1130
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: and it sounded like they're not offering a first I

1131
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: just don't think it makes sense for the Eagles to

1132
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: trade him at seventy cents on the dollar. On the

1133
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: other hand, the fact that we're hearing so much about

1134
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: it indicates to me like they're certainly willing to make

1135
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: it happen for the right price. And when that happens

1136
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: usually like it goes down. They could also wait it

1137
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: out until after July first, June first, and then it

1138
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: helps their cap a little more if they trade them

1139
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: in camp. And so they're in no big hurry. What

1140
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: do you think about AJ Brown? And then I'll even

1141
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: throw in Brian Thomas Junior here, as like the trade market,

1142
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: even though today was quiet in terms of free agency,

1143
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: the trade market often picks up when the new league

1144
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: year starts, which is on Wednesday. So I wouldn't be

1145
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: surprised if we get three or four woozy bangers between

1146
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: Wednesday to Friday. Just some fun, surprising trades. And these

1147
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: are two possibilities, Brian Thomas Junior and AJ Brown.

1148
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: I'll start with AJ Brown because this one is fascinating

1149
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: to me. It's the worst kept secret in the world.

1150
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: It's not really a secret at this point that that

1151
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: Eagles are trying very very hard to trade him they

1152
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: feel it seems clear to me that they feel they

1153
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: must move on from him, or must move him at

1154
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: some point before I say that now, they're probably giving

1155
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: themselves alonger runway the trade deadline let's say next year,

1156
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: which feels like a long time but really isn't if

1157
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: you think about, you know how quickly that comes up

1158
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: in the context of a season. This is interesting because

1159
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: it feels to me the amount of chatter we heard

1160
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: about this, and the amount of teams that were being

1161
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: connected via sources to this possibly happening, all felt like

1162
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: the Eagles.

1163
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: Trying to manufacture a bidding war or.

1164
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: Trying to find a way, as Howie Roseman is so

1165
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: good at doing, to basically increase what the perception.

1166
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: Of the prices for a player.

1167
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: And maybe they're asking It's possible they're asking for too

1168
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: much in this initial wave and they might have to

1169
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: back down off of some of what they might be

1170
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: asking for with aj Brown.

1171
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: If the Patriots, I think it's just like I don't

1172
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: think I think if they could get a first firm,

1173
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: I think it'd already have been gone. So my guess

1174
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: is no one's given up a first form.

1175
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean, even if it's a first and another pick,

1176
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that is is they they're gonna have

1177
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: to back off of whatever they were asking these teams for.

1178
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: And in terms of Brian Thomas Junior, it is interesting

1179
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: the dueling reports. I guess that we're getting out of

1180
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: this where we see that he's there trying to find

1181
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: the best possible fit for him in this new scheme.

1182
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: They're moving him around, bringing other players in to take

1183
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: on a role that he previously had played. All of

1184
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: this during the regular season that the Jaguars sort of

1185
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: like fairy tale season and postseason.

1186
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 3: That they had.

1187
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: Well, now we're hearing reporting today and ESPNS Adam Schefter

1188
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: kind of came out and said, Hey, this I don't

1189
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: know where this is coming from, Like, this isn't this

1190
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: isn't something that they're interested in doing. And I know

1191
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: each we both have like our thoughts on how real

1192
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: any of this could be. But I always do laugh

1193
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: because insiders they know so much that they just they

1194
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: still don't report. And I feel like he knows exactly

1195
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: where this is coming, Adam, and so he's him saying that.

1196
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: It immediately puts my flag up and I just get

1197
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: I've ticked by it because I'm like, wait, if you're

1198
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: saying I don't know where this is coming from, I

1199
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: feel like you know exactly where this is coming from.

1200
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: And that's why you're saying I don't know where this

1201
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: is coming from. It's kind of one of those things.

1202
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: That well, local reporters in New York specifically, like the

1203
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Jets we're saying and the Giants actually we're saying that

1204
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: they heard Brian Thomas Junior is very much available, and hearing.

1205
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: Local reports in Jacksonville say he's very much not available right, and.

1206
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: The national reporters are saying, we don't think he's available.

1207
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: So everyone has different self interest. My theory, without knowing anything,

1208
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: would be, look, maybe maybe the player is interested in going,

1209
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: maybe the team would let him go for the right price,

1210
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: but since the price is so far off at this point,

1211
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to shut it down and keep that relationship

1212
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: and trying to leverage it. But I don't think those

1213
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: reports come out of nowhere. So if there's if there's

1214
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: reporters in certain markets that believe that he's available, my

1215
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: sense is that someone's trying to drum up that market,

1216
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: ether it's the Jaguars or it's Brian Thomas Junior's agent,

1217
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: and I would love to see that. Before we take

1218
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: a break, I just want to say, like, I'm taking

1219
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior every day of the week over AJ

1220
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: Brown right now. I mean, not just because of the contract,

1221
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: although that's part of it. You're gonna have to You're

1222
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay Brian Thomas Junior because you cannot

1223
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: find that speed elsewhere. All the teams, including the Patriots

1224
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: that were in on Alec Pearce. I'd rather have Brian

1225
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: Thomas Junior than Alex Pierce too. As much as I

1226
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: love Alec Pearce. They're in the same ballpark, but that

1227
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: is a young guy who moves unlike many people in

1228
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. And the fact that it's all just being

1229
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: sprinkled out there at all tells me it could be happening.

1230
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I think it will happen. Actually, I think it's more

1231
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: likely to happen than AJ Brown. That's just a wild guest.

1232
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll come back. We'll talk

1233
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: a little bit about Trey Hendrickson on the other side.

1234
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Krey Hendrickson's wanted to be a free agent for a

1235
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: long time, and I hate for him that it's not

1236
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: going how he wanted to. Jonathan Jones of CBS reported

1237
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: that Trey Hendrickson in wants about ten million dollars more

1238
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: per year than the offers that he's getting, which is wild.

1239
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: If I had to guess, I think that Danil hunter

1240
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: one year, forty million dollar extension plus the Jalen Phillips

1241
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar contract combined to create this situation. And

1242
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: if there really was a ten million dollar gap between

1243
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: what he wants and what he's being offered, I would guess.

1244
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is all true that

1245
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: like he wants about thirty five and he's getting offered

1246
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: about twenty five, or he wants about thirty and he's

1247
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: getting offered about twenty somewhere in there, like thirty two

1248
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: to twenty two. That doesn't surprise me. Like I think

1249
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: he is about a twenty to twenty five million dollar

1250
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: player because he's turning thirty two and he's coming off

1251
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: of a serious injury. I understand when he looks at

1252
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: the other players like a Dafeowa and Jalen Phillips, and

1253
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: thinks like I should be making more money than them,

1254
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: but that's just not how it works.

1255
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes six years older than Jalen Phillips.

1256
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: Right, you know, without the devastating injury history that Phillips has,

1257
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: but he does have an injury that he's coming off of,

1258
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: which is a concern. There was a report that the

1259
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: Bills could be getting in on the Trey Hendrickson market,

1260
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: that they've reached out. Where would you like him to go?

1261
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: Where do you think he could land?

1262
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: I want him to go to the Chicago Bears, but

1263
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: they will not do it at that price. And I

1264
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: wonder if too, if they would even have like a

1265
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: big circle with an ex strawn through any player acquisition

1266
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: that is a player over thirty at a premier position,

1267
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: because some teams just do Some teams just will not

1268
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: spend risky contracts or big money or even media money

1269
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: on players at premier positions, which pass Rusher is at

1270
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: a certain time in their career. And sometimes we get

1271
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: really cool outliers like Daniel Hunter is still going. And

1272
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: you know, I just think that even with the cool

1273
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: outliers that we get, teams do stick to a lot

1274
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: of these processes, and I think that's part like a

1275
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: huge reason why he's not seeing really what he wants

1276
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: is not the ability or the potential. I think a

1277
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: lot of teams would be happy to have him, but

1278
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 2: it's the age thing. Also, he's unfortunately.

1279
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: Also this sounds horrible, but like it's Trey Hendrickson, it's

1280
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: not Max Crosby or Miles Garrett. Trey Hendrickson is not

1281
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: that player. I know he had a great season two

1282
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: years ago, but if you just look at him on

1283
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: a play to play season to season basis, he's absolutely

1284
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: like a top ten, top eight like Ed Drusher at

1285
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: his best, but he's not those guys, and now he's older.

1286
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would be really interesting. We always

1287
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: hear all the Cowboys are in the mix. The Bears

1288
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: obviously would be fun. The Commanders have kind of filled

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Speaker 1: that hole. The Bills. I think the Bucks, who I

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Speaker 1: had him in our Matchmaker game, still make the most

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Speaker 1: sense for him. And so he's gonna get paid. I

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Speaker 1: think he'll end up on a good team if he

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Speaker 1: wants to be on a good team, if he wants

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Speaker 1: to prioritize that he's not gonna get everything that he wants.

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Speaker 1: But he's kind of the biggest free agency. You know, Domino,

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Speaker 1: the fall in the next couple of days, but just

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Speaker 1: some odds and ends. I always liked the day after

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Speaker 1: the crazy day because then you find out these little nuggets.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. I don't know what funny is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe mean to hear that Nakobe Dean got as much

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Speaker 1: or more money offered to him by the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: he turned that down just.

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Speaker 3: Because to ruin your game for the Raiders. That's true.

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Speaker 1: I had I had Nkobe Dean to the Cowboys just

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Speaker 1: he just said he got he just like kind of

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Speaker 1: went with his gut. I think he played with kway

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Speaker 1: Walker before he thought the locker room. But how about

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys getting spurned for the Raiders in a big spot.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's a that's a real blow to the brand.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a real blow too.

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Speaker 1: It kind of is. And why not just throw in

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're that far along, make it so

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Speaker 1: that the money isn't the same like it was, like,

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Speaker 1: oh they're paying a little more. How about just throwing

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Speaker 1: an extra three million dollars? Uh? Speaking of money, Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans only got sixteen million dollars guaranteed on his contract

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Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers, that that was one of

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Speaker 1: those where the real mind was not as good as

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Speaker 1: we thought. Two years, twenty eight million dollars. Pretty fascinating

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Speaker 1: and supports a theory I had that he just got

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Speaker 1: on the phone with Kyle Shanahan, who's a wide receiver guy,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan's vision for him, as you said, as

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Speaker 1: the X in that beautiful offense, was just like, I

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Speaker 1: gotta try something new instead of trying my six different

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator under Todd Bowles, you know, in the last

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Speaker 1: seven years or whatever, because the money's not that good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's already he's already a future Hall of

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Speaker 2: Famer in my opinion. But also, if you go to

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, big, if there's a lot that has to

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Speaker 2: happen between here and now, you go to San Francisco

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Speaker 2: and you win a championship as a receiver, as as

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Speaker 2: a number one receiver, you are now etched in a

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Speaker 2: very specific legend, particular piece of lore in football history.

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Speaker 1: Just got to stay healthy, you know, away from that substation.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that Cam Wolfe of NFL

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Speaker 1: Network said, look, even when Michael Pennix is back. It's

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Speaker 1: an open competition for the Falcons starting court that Tuatungovailo

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Speaker 1: is going to have a head start. Everything you hear

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Speaker 1: is that the staff there in Atlanta is not necessarily

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Speaker 1: in on Michael Pennix, which is it's I feel bad

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Speaker 1: for him, but that's what happens when regimes change. And

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Speaker 1: then finally I thought it was cool. Stephen Holder of

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Speaker 1: ESPN said, the new vision is Alec Pierce eight to

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Speaker 1: ten targets a game, so not just more money, more

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Speaker 1: action for Alec Pierce. That was fun Day two a

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Speaker 1: free agency. We will be back again live on YouTube

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Speaker 1: on the NFL channel tomorrow four pm Pacific. We see

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Speaker 1: them