1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interacted Brooker Studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: day Break for Tuesday January. Coming up this hour, the 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Justice Department may sue Google as earliest. Today, we are 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: live with the latest new tensions between the US and China, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: this time over Russia. Microsoft gets set to report earnings 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: and more job cuts come to Corporate America. Another mass 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: shooting in California Monday leaves seven dead, plus a majority 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: of New Yorkers one in battle. Republican Congressman Santos to resign. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: I'm Michael barn Moore a hand. I'm John stash Our 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: in sports arranger went over Florida. The Islanders lost in 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Toronto and they're playing the quarter finals at the Australian Open. 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: That's All's trended ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak on Bloomberg eleven 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: three on New York, Bloomberg one, Washington, d C, Bloomberg 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: one oh six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties and Francisco 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Sirius x M one nine team and around the world 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio dot Com and via The Bloomberg Business. 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar, and I'm kerin Moscow. Here 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. We begin with a 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: looming government lawsuit against Google. We get the latest live 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: now with Bloomberg Steve Rappaport, Steve, good morning, Good morning, 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: Nathan and Karen. The Justice Department is poised to sue 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Google for antitrust violations, alleging the tech giant unfairly dominates 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: the digital ad market. Google has argued competition and online 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: ads is quite healthy, noting its rivals include other power 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: players like Amazon, Meta and Microsoft Alphabet's. Google is number 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: one in the US digital ad market, controlling technology used 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: to buy, sell, and service online ads. The company is 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: projected to bring in nearly seventy billion dollars in US 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: online advertising revenue this year. Live in New York, I'm 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Steve Rappaport, Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Steve, thank you. I'll 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: staying in Washington. Now. US China relations are in focus today. 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: The Biden administration has confronted Beijing with evidence sets a 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: j ties to Russia and support for Russia's war effort 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Details now from Bloomberg's Amy Morris in osroom 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: in Washington. Sources tell Bloomberg News that the U s 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: suspects some Chinese state owned companies maybe providing assistance for 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Russia's war effort in Ukraine. The administration is reviewing the 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: evidence it's accumulated to determine its significance. No word on 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: what that evidence is. If the Biden administration finds that 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Chinese companies are supporting the invasion and that China's government 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: knew about it or somehow involved, they would be forced 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: to decide how much to push back, and that could 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: risk opening a whole new area of dispute with China 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: in Washington. I'm Amy Morris, Bloomberg Daybreak. Thank you, Amy. 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Let's turn back to these markets now, where we continue 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: to see a bullish start to the NASTAC one hundreds 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: coming off its best two day runs since November. It 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: gained two percent yesterday and the SMP five hundred is 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: up twelve percent from its October low. Still, Mike List, 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: senior portfolio manager at American Century invest San, says it 51 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: is a confusing time for investors. You've got lots of poses, 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: like like a strong job market, consumers still spending of 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: China's opening, and inflation slowing, but the negatives are race 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: may have to stay elevated for a while, housing to 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: drag miser contracting um, and you have elevated you political concerns. 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: So it is very confusing out there. Lots of cross 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: currents right now. Mike Liss with American Century Investments likes banks. 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: He says he is overweight in the sector. Well, Nathan, 59 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Corporate earnings could be a determining factor to whether this 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: rally has legs. And this afternoon we hear from tech 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: heavyweight Microsoft and Bloomberg. Jeff Bellinger has a preview. Bloomberg 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Intelligence says the software giants quarterly results could reflect continued 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: pressure on Windows and cloud products. Windows demand may have 64 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: softened because of weaker PC sales, and the rate of 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: growth for products from Azure two Dynamics three likely slowed. 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: But with Microsoft and other technology companies that have yet 67 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: to report, investors will be all ears when executives talk 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: about the outlook. Guidance from the sector could offer clues 69 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: to how long the pressure on earnings might last. Jeff Bullinger, 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. Okay, Jeff, thanks, We're seeing more job cuts 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: across corporate America. This morning, we get the latest on 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: that live with Bloomberg's Dan Schwartzman. Good morning, Dan, Good 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: morning Nathan and Karen. Bloomberg News learning that Gemini, the 74 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: firm led by the Winklevoss twins, will lay off ten 75 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: percent of its staff. It's the third round of job 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: cuts for the cryptocurrency exchange dating back to June. Gemini 77 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Trust has been unable to pay out funds to some 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: of its account holders due to the bankruptcy of Genesis 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: Global Capital, who is set to oh around nine million 80 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: dollars to clients. Meantime, the auto industry also seeing job losses. 81 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Ford Motor Company will be laying off workers across Europe, 82 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: mostly in Germany. It wants to cut cost to pour 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: more money it's electric vehicle production. Ford CEO Jim Farley 84 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: has pledged more than fifty billion dollars toward the development 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: of evs on Dan Schwartzman, Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Dan, 86 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: thank you. Now, let's turned to Silicon Valley and the 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: trial of Elon Musk. The Tesla CEO is on the 88 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: witness stand for a second day in his securities fraud case, 89 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: defending tweets about taking the company private. Egg Baxter has 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: the latest from our Bloomberg nine sixty newsroom in San Francisco. 91 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: The crux of testimony centered around a deal with a 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: Saudi public investment fund. He said he'd had a handshake 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: agreement in getting help going private, but then they began 94 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: to back pedal on the arrangement after his go private tweet. 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: He also said he had support from Larry Ellison as 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: well as two other investment firms. Musk also noted the 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: wording of the text that he was contemplating taking the 98 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: company private. He's back on the stand today in San Francisco. 99 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak, Okay, and thanks. I must 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: continues to fight that court battle over Tesla. He's facing 101 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: another legal challenge when it comes to Twitter. According to 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: a lawsuit there, Musk is accused of not paying grant 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: on the company san Francisco headquarters since December. The owner 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: of the building says the social media company failed to 105 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: pay almost seven million dollars in rent over the last 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: two months. Well, Musk is caught up in legal battles, Nathan, 107 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: he has seen his wealth increase thanks to a mini 108 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: rally and Testlas shares. According to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, 109 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: Musk's fortune has swelled by more than ten billion dollars 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: since Friday to reach a total of roughly one forty 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: five billions since Friday. Musk last month became the first 112 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: person ever to see two hundred billion dollars erased from 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: their net worth in his thirty six degrees in Central Park. 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Cloudy skies will give way to sunshine today in a 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: high near forty five. Those clouds are gonna roll back 116 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: in tonight, though, ahead of a wintry mess tomorrow. Time 117 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: now to take a look at some of the other 118 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: stories making news in New York and around the world 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg's Michael bar Good morning, Michael, Good morning Nathan. 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Another mass shooting in California. Seven people were killed and 121 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: another severely injured in shootings that took place at two 122 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: separate locations in Half Moon Bay in northern California. Another 123 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: person was wounded and taken to a hospital in critical condition. 124 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: The other three bodies were discovered at a separate nursery 125 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: with gunshot wounds. San Mateo County Sheriff of Christina Corpus 126 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: calls it a horrific shooting. The motive through the shooting 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: is currently unknown through investigation. The suspect identified as Chun Lizel, 128 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: a sixty seven year old Half Room Bay resident. The 129 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: shootings occurred two days after a gunmen killed eleven people 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: at a dance club. The shootings in California led to 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: a march in New York City. It went from Union 132 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Square to Chinatown to fight gun violence in the US. 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: This person was at the event. Every time something like 134 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: this happens, if we say, oh my god, never again, 135 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: but when are we really going to finally say this 136 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: is enough? Another marcher says gun violence is a public 137 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: health crisis. Attorney General Merrit Garland dismissed criticism that the 138 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Justice Department is treating Donald Trump and Joe Biden differently 139 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to investigating their handling of classified documents. 140 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: We do not have different rules for Denmark rats or Republicans, 141 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: different rules for the powerful and the powerless, different rules 142 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: for the rich for for the poor. We apply the 143 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: facts and the law in each case in a neutral, 144 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: nonpartisan manner. Uh. That is what we always do. A g. 145 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Garland made the comments during a meeting of the Reproductive 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Rights Task Force at the Justice Department. A new poll 147 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: shows a majority of New Yorkers want Long Island GOP 148 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: representative George Santos to resign. According to a Siena College 149 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Research Institute pole, nearly six out of ten New York 150 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: voters said Santos should step down. At about half of 151 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: Republicans say he should leave office. Santos admitted to lying 152 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: about working at Goldman Sachs and other parts of his 153 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: resume while campaigning. The Oscar nominations will be announced this morning. 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: Some of the favorite movies include Top Gun, Maverick Avatar, 155 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: The Way of Water, Black Panther, Wakonda Forever, and Elvis 156 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Global News twenty four hours a day on air and 157 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Quicktake, powered by more than seven hundred journalists 158 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: analysts more than countries Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. 159 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: Night's actually seen a couple of those. How about that? 160 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, Michael, except for the Bloomberg Sports Update now 161 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: brought tier by tri State out Here. Good morning, John Stanshower, 162 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: Good morning anything. Despite the shell lackein they took Saturday 163 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: night in Philadelphia, the Giant season was arousing success. Passons 164 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven and Napogins. What will be an 165 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: interesting off season? Daniel Jones and Sa Kwan Barkley can 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: both be unrestricted free agents. John's gentlemenator Joe Shane was 167 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: asked about Barkley. We want to build this team and 168 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: allocade our resources and that's that's what it comes down 169 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: to you. So again, he's he's a good football player. Um, 170 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: he was durable for this suit this year. He played well, 171 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: and you know, again he's he's a guy that we 172 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: might have back. Shane was more definitive about the chances 173 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: of Jones Attorney. Giants have learned they'll have the twenty 174 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: fifth pick of the draft. The Jets all pick thirteen. 175 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs coach Andy Reid says he expects Patrick Mahomes to 176 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: play in Sunday's ANFC championship game but Sincinnat despite a 177 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain, it did not prevent the Homes from 178 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: playing second half Last Saturday at the Garden Rangers Bead 179 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Florida six to two, para goals for Mekas Abantage had 180 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: three assists for Timmy Panerain. Islanders lost in Toronto five 181 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: to two. In the Isles have now lost five in 182 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: a row nine of the last ten. Next tonight try 183 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: to end a four game losing streak. They host Cleveland 184 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: College Hoops. Kansas defending national champs was sixteen and one 185 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: lost at Baylor. Jayhawks have lost their last three. Duke 186 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: is just five and four in the a c C 187 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: after a loss in Virginia Tech a couple of Russians 188 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: and in the semifinals of the Australian Open, krinkatching off 189 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: took out the American Sebastian Quarter Atlanta Rabkina coming off 190 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: an upset of top seed Eka Schwech one again third 191 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: seed in Jessica Pagoula has just lost her quarterfinal match 192 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: with Victoria Azarenka six four or six one. We'll find 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: out today who if anyone gets into the Baseball Hall 194 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: of Fame. The philling is it could be a shutout, 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: but if anyone has a chance, it might be Scott Rowland, 196 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: John Stash and went Bloomberg Sports Live from coast to coast, 197 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: from New York to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, d C. 198 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Nationwide on Sirius XAMP, the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg 199 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning up, Nathan Hagar. 200 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: We're following a couple of significant developments when it comes 201 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: to the war in Ukraine. Sources are telling Bloomberg News 202 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: that the Biden administrations confronting China with evidence that state 203 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: owned businesses maybe providing assistance to the Russian war effort. 204 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: And now we have confirmation from Poland that it is 205 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: asking the German government to allow it to send Leopard 206 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: two tanks into Ukraine to support their war effort. From 207 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: more on. All these stories were joined live by Bloomberg 208 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: News Executive editor for International Government, Rosalind Mathison. Ros Good morning, 209 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. I want to start with 210 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: this a US China situation. What is the evidence that 211 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the US is talking about? What kind of assistance could 212 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: a state owned enterprises be providing Russia. Well, there wasn't 213 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of detail about that, but what we know 214 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: is that there is a rising level of concern in 215 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: the US administration about just how much economic activity is 216 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: going on between China and Russia and how much that 217 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: might be becoming deliberate in order to support of the 218 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: Russian economy to facilitate its war in Ukraine. It seems 219 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: to be focused around several things. One is just the 220 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: activities of state owned enterprises doing business in China. The 221 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: other is perhaps the provision of non lethal military assistance, 222 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: which is sort of spare parts, goggles, that kind of 223 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: thing that might be just, you know, what Russia actually 224 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: needs right now, given its struggles in Ukraine, and certainly 225 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: a trajectory that the US administration is seeing where some 226 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: of that activity is picking up. Of course, it's not 227 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: in violation of sanctions that are placed on Russia for now. 228 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: Chinese companies have been pretty careful to stay in their 229 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: lane on that, even though China never signed up to 230 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: these sanctions to begin with. But what they're seeing as 231 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: signs that some of that activity is on the rise, 232 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: and therefore the warnings are coming to Beijing to watch it. 233 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: What's the possibility rise that the Chinese government wouldn't potentially 234 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: know about this kind of activity coming from its own 235 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Steino on enterprises, It's possible it is also through the 236 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: private sector, and you've just got sort of the natural 237 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: order of business. I mean, China is not just the 238 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: only country who's really seeing business somewhat as usual with 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Russia despite its actions in Ukraine. India, countries in the 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: Middle East, Africa and so on similarly have been continuing 241 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: to trade and invest with Russia with certain enterprises, generally, 242 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: they tend not to act without at least a sense 243 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: of the mood in Beijing. It might not be an 244 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: avert instruction from Beijing, but at least sort of knowing 245 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: where the wind is with the leadership there in terms 246 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: of things like their view on Russia and its actions 247 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. So they wouldn't be acting really without sort 248 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: of a sense of that, even if it's not an 249 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: overt instruction. Um So you can read from that that 250 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: probably there is a sense of other mood shift in 251 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Beijing in the leadership about Russia on this and what's 252 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the potential of the mood shift affecting US China relations. 253 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: We've had over the last couple of months at least 254 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: an effort to try to stabilize, if not further improve 255 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: Chinese relations after that meeting between the presidents of the 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: U S and China. Well, certainly that is the balancing 257 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: that we're seeing going on. As you've noted, there's been 258 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: sort of a shift between China and the US at 259 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: least an effort to put that relationship on a more 260 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: even keel. And we're expecting the Secretary of State Anthony 261 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln to visit China before too long, and that would 262 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: be sort of putting that on that further trajectory. So 263 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: there will be probably an anxiety at least in Washington 264 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that these issues remain somewhat separate. Yeah, 265 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: you continue to press China over Russia, over Ukraine, but 266 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: equally you're trying to put sort of trade and investment 267 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: and other other issues, including the need to tackle climate 268 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: change collectively, for example, on a different track between the 269 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: US and China relationship. So you'd imagine that there's a 270 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: strong design not to have it in fect that broader 271 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: trajectory too much. And I want to turn rise finally 272 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: to this new development that just crossed the Bloomberg terminal 273 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: moment ago, that Poland is now formally asking Germany for 274 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: permission to send in Leopard two tanks. I guess this 275 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: isn't too big a surprise here, but this does seem 276 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: to have become something of a fracture in the Needle alliance. 277 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: What more can you tell us about that? Well, that's 278 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: right to some sense. It's a it's a formality because 279 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Poland has been asking for weeks and weeks or weeks 280 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: for Germany to agree to this. Almost a daily commentary 281 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: from someone in Poland saying Germany needs to now allow this. 282 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: So it's just putting more pressure on on Berlin to 283 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: to agree that other countries can send in their own 284 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: German made heavy tanks, the Leopard tanks in particular. We 285 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: are expecting that Germany will will sort of get over 286 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: the line on this at some point, whether it's days 287 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: or potentially still weeks, but the pressure is intense, and 288 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: really even Germany is agreeing that Ukraine needs more heavy 289 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: weapons if it's going to be able to push back 290 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: against a possible Russian offensive that may come in the 291 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks or a couple of months. But 292 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: it's really just sort of keeping that public pressure from 293 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Poland on Germany to agree just thirty seconds left her rise. 294 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: But what's been holding Germany back up to this point, well, 295 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of things. One is obviously concern and Germany 296 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: is not the only one saying this, is that the warriors, 297 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: the more heavy kit you sent into Ukraine, the more 298 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: at some point you possibly provoked Russia into a reaction. 299 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Although Vladimir Putin has threatened that before and not followed through. 300 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: So that's really a fundamental concern. 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