1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, I'm your girl Treka Foster Brasby. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: And I'm your girl Cheryl Swoops. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: Hey. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: And this is the levels to this podcast. This is 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: the show where we share all the levels to the 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: shit that women go through. And we have got a 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: great show lined up today. But first of course, I 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: got to catch up with my girl, Cheryl Man. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: It's been a week you. 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: First of all, let me tell you about yourself, okay, 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: because you have been on the go huh. 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 2: And I noticed that you were on the. 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson Show and so I need to know if 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: you got the Jay hood entroly. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I did? I did? I did? What happened? 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: There's like so much shit that we need to catch 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: up on, like on so many different levels. How about 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: that you see what I did there? Yes, well, since 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: you ask. 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: About Jay hud we'll just start with Jay hud. 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: So. 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, with it being Breast Cancer Awareness months and me 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: being a spokesperson for Radnet, I did a whole media 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: circuit tour two weeks ago now in La. So it 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 4: was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, NonStop. First of all, I love her, 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: I love her to pieces. 27 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 2: I've always been a big. 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: Jahod fan all the way back to American Idol days. 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: And I love her talk show and not because I 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: was on it, Like I religiously watch her talk show 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: because she's like, she's just real, she ain't perfect, Like 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: she's the girl next door where you can just sit 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: down and just shoot the shit with her. Right, So 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: I had no idea. So they call it the spirit tunnel. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: You know how in the W they have their tunnel fits, right, Yeah, 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: they call this the spirit Tunnel. I don't know if 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: she kind of took that from the W or not, 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: because she is a big W fan. 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: She is. Yeah, So, and I. 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: Didn't know how the song works, right because most of 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: the people that I've seen, like like they're singers or 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: rappers like Gwen's the fun and Sweedy. So I was like, 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: of course you're gonna play their song. Well, I got 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: a lot tea but I ain't got my own song. 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: So they ask right, like, well what song do you want? 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: So me, being from Texas, big Beyonce fan, I was like, 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: give me some Texas holder. It's ain't Texas, Yeah, ain't no. 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Hold yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: But anyway, so I'm thinking that's gonna be my walkout song, right, 50 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: So I practiced a whole little all right, this is 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do. 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: Got a little step girl. So I come out the 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: green room. 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: I turned the corner and I'm waiting for the beat, right, 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, because you know, the people 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: that work there, they sing. So I turned the corner 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: and I'm waiting, and the next thing I hear is 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: swoops thirdies. So you know, I wasn't even mad. I 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: wasn't even mad. I was like, okay, this this might 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: even better than Texas Home. 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Right. 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: So I had a basketball, a pink basketball that I 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: signed and wrote something on it that I was going 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: to present to her. But I had the ball. I 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: was walking out with the ball, so I had little 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: dribbling action. I was passing back and forth to the 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: people working there, like it was. 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: So much fun. 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: It was I really need them to give me this 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: video because this video. 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: I got some behind the scenes stuff. 72 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I need you to share that because the whole time 73 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, I know, she got a jay 74 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: hood intro. 75 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: I got to down with this shit. Yeah, yeah, it 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: was so much fun. 77 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: And then the interview, like, I honestly feel like we 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: have been like girls from way back when, because it 79 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: was just so smooth and it was just great. It 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: was a lot of fun. 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love that. 82 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I saw you doing your little media tour and I 83 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's why, sure ain't got no time 84 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: for your girl, because she's busy. 85 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: She had. 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: No, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're 87 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: not doing that, ma'am. Because you talk about my schedule. 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: Let's talk about your schedule. 89 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: That's not important conversation. It is miss Halloween party, sure did. 90 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: I had a Halloween housewarming, y'all, and it was by 91 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: far like I've already got people telling me tee, so 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: the Halloween party is at your crib next year. 93 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, come on now, let's not go. Let's not 94 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: go over. 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: I need to hear about it though, because I already no, 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: you go all out. 97 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: I know. I did. I did. I had a big 98 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: tent outside in the backyard. I had all the lights 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: going on. 100 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: I had little amputated feet in arms on chains, just 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: looking real crazy, right. I had yello shots that I'd 102 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: made in little syringes and they were red. So it 103 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: was supposed to give like the blood thing, but I 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: had so much stuff going on. I did a Halloween 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: contest for costumes where I gave out awards for cutest costume, 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: most original costume. 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask for Okay, So this is an 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: adult Halloween party. 109 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 2: It is not foriot baby. 110 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Don't bring your cheerre in my house because your chearren. 111 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: Stars. Yeah, okay, don't bring your chir in. 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: A my house, and I will not be held accountable. 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: I cannot be. 114 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Held accountable for what happens to your babies and what 115 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: they are exposed to coming to my house as well. 116 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, but it was great. 117 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I had the basement decked out, so if you wanted 118 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: to watch the football game, I had the games going downstairs. 119 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: There was a DJ like I want playing no games. 120 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: I like that. We was good. 121 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: Okay, so you had Halloween housewarming? So what do you 122 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: do on actual Halloween? So on actual Halloween, I do 123 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: two things. I give out candy to the kids if 124 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: any kids come by, because you know, kids be It's 125 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: different now kids don't come by like they used to. 126 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 2: So I gave out candy to the kids. 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: But also I'm a Halloween part so bring your kids 128 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: between five and eight because at nine o'clock I'm on 129 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: my way to the club and I will holler at you. 130 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: That's it. Five and eight is the only time that 131 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: light is on. 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: But if I remember correctly, so the kids get the 133 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: candy and the adults get their. 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Adult adults get little mini shots. 135 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, girl, I would hop on a plane and fly 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: to your house just calling. 137 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Next year, I gotta go out. 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: I told you, like, I don't do Halloween anymore, but 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: I will come to your house. 140 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: You have got it is legitimately a good ass time. 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: Like your Halloween stuff is on a completely different level. 142 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: It's levels to Halloween parties, y'all, it's levels. I did, however, 143 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: have a couple friends come from out of town, so 144 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: shout out to my guy Miles. 145 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: He came from New York. Het up, Miles. Miles came 146 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: from New York. 147 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: He brought his wife Ali Alli, dressed like Ellie the Elephant. 148 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: It was the kidding what's it you dress? Ass? I 149 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: was Trinity from the Matrix that mom. 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: I was Trinity and my husband was Neo. Yeah we 151 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: were the ma Yes how about that? And then on 152 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: actual Halloween, I was Janet Jackson from Rhythm Nation. So 153 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: from the Rhythm Nation album cover, read the Nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 154 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: it's been a time, It's been a time. But you 155 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: know who ain't been having a good time since I'm 156 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna tell you who ain't been having a good time. 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: All these coaches thatdn damn lost their job. 158 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: I know. With that, I think it's time for us 159 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: to take us to the next level. All right, friends, 160 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: So before we take a deep dive into the next 161 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: level conversation, just want to be completely transparent because you know, 162 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Sheryl and I are very busy and so sometimes we 163 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: record episodes in advance. This was one of them, and 164 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: so you're gonna hear such an incredible conversation about the 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: coaching vacancies. But we wanted to be clear that we 166 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: know Steph White is now the coach of the Indiana 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Fever and Tyler marsh is now the coach of the 168 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: Chicago Sky. We're very excited and we can't wait to 169 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: really talk about how incredible they are going to be 170 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: in those positions. But we ain't want you to listen 171 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: to the episode and be like, what are they talking about? 172 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: So that's my quick disclaimer. Now let's get into it. 173 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: I have been looking over the WNBA rosters over the 174 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: last five six days, and as I'm looking at these rosters, 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: I realize that all of these things are gonna look 176 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: real different come twenty twenty five. And the first thing 177 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna look different for seven teams are going to 178 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: be the head coach. Because seven teams have parted ways 179 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: with their head coaches over the last week. So if 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: you haven't been keeping up, La parted ways with Kurt Miller, 181 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Indiana Fever, parted ways Christy Sides, Chicago Sky As we discussed, 182 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: parted ways with Teresa Weatherspoon. 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: Atlanta let go of Tanisha. 184 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: Wright, Dallas let go of le Tricia Trammel, and Washington 185 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: let go of Eric Tebow. Now Connecticut also parted ways 186 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: from head coach Stephanie White, but she wasn't fired. 187 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: It was a mutual agreement for the two to part. 188 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Ways, which was just as much as a personal decision 189 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: as it was a business one for her and her family. 190 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: But nevertheless, that's seven teams. 191 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, we still are going to 192 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: be needing a head coach for Portland because that's a 193 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: new expansion team, and a head coach for Toronto so 194 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: technically that's nine head coaching openings. I don't think I've 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: ever seen anything like this in the WNBA before. 196 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: And mind you, not just the coaches. 197 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: We also need gms yep, so the mystics, the aces, 198 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 4: the wings. And I know Kelly Cross Cooff is coming 199 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: back to the Fever, but is she coming back as 200 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: the GM. 201 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: Amber Cox is the COO, so she's the chief Operating 202 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Officer and GM, and they moved Lynn Dunn over to 203 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: be an advisor for the Fever and GM. 204 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: Okay, And I know Amber very Will. 205 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I worked with her in Connecticut when she was here, 206 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: and she worked in Dallas as well. You know Amber 207 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: two as you worked in Dallas too, So yeah, Amber 208 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: is amazing. 209 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: I love She's Amber Will be really really good for 210 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: the Fever. Yes, yes, really good. Love Yeah. 211 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: And so the only reason why I bring up the 212 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: gms is, you know, team because typically teams like to 213 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: hire their gms before they hire their coaches because the 214 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: GM and the coaches they're going to be working side 215 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: by side. And I personally think that was one of 216 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: the big issues in Chicago because Chicago hired Spoon before 217 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: they hired the GM. 218 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I. 219 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: Think most GMS like to be the ones to hire 220 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: their coaches so they can say my coach and then 221 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: that suits you. He wasn't able to say that. But 222 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:08,359 Speaker 4: I can't remember when we've had so many coaching vacancies. 223 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: Besides when the league first. 224 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: Start, I too have not seen this many coaching vacancies, 225 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: and it leaves me with a bunch of different questions, right, Like, 226 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: you know, I know when I look at other sports, 227 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: I look at like the NBA and the NFL when 228 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: they have all these coaching vacancies, and it just kind 229 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: of feels like they just recycle coaches over and over 230 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: and over. 231 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's that way in the W two. 232 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: But see, I'm. 233 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: Wondering if this is an opportunity for us to give 234 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: some new voices an opportunity to be a head coach. 235 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I hope this is a chance for us to bring 236 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: in some college coaches, which might be a little bit 237 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: difficult given that, you know, the NC Double A season 238 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: is getting ready to start and you kind of want 239 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: to have time to get acclimated to a team, and 240 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: it's difficult to do that at the beginning of the 241 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: NC Double A season. 242 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: But I look at people like Brion. 243 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: January or one hundred percent March, and I'm like, these 244 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: would be some amazing assistant coaches to give a head 245 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: coaching opportunity. I still don't know what happened to Nicki Blue. Yeah, 246 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, where did Nicki go? It just feels like 247 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: this is a good time to do that. 248 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: It's felt like that for me for a while now 249 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: that there are some very good qualified coaches, whether that's 250 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: assistant coaches in the w whether that's some assistant coaches 251 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: in college, it's time right, Like I personally, I'm tired. 252 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: Of seeing the same old let's. 253 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: Just recycle, recycle, recycle. And it's not to say that 254 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: those coaches aren't good coaches. There's a reason why they're 255 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: not where they were before, with the exception of Spoon, Right, 256 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: you gave Spoon one season. So she's one for me 257 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 4: that I'm like, when I look at all these coaching vacancies, 258 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: you got to find a place for her somewhere as 259 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: a head coach. 260 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Totally agree with you on Breon January. 261 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: But I just read the other day where she's actually 262 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: a G League assistant. Yeah, here's the thing that frustrates me. 263 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: It's a great opportunity right for women who played in 264 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: the league, or women in general to get opportunities to 265 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: coach in the NBA. 266 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: But why do we. 267 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: Have to lose all of our great ambassadors are great 268 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: coaches to the NBA or the G League when we 269 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: could use them in the w Breon January. To me, 270 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: deserves a shot. And there's nothing wrong with coaching in 271 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: the G League. And maybe she doesn't want to be 272 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: a head coach in the w I don't know, but 273 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 4: I'm just saying if she does, she absolutely deserves that opportunity. 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: Spoon deserves out opportunity. 275 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: I look at Cheryl Reeves's staff, right, she has three 276 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: former players on her staff that are assistants. Katie Smith 277 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: with the longest tenure with the links. Katie deserves a shot. 278 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: She had one in New York. 279 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say that, right. 280 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm just like, there's so many openings and so many opportunities. 281 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: I just I hope, I hope that this means teams 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: are really starting to take it more seriously and say, 283 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: you know what, the time has arrived. 284 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: People are paying attention. We need coaches who. 285 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: Can one draw in the fans, who can also help 286 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: with marketing with TV and coaches play. 287 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: A big part of that. I know. 288 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: I read where someone was like Don Staley, don ain't 289 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: coming to coach in the w y'all ain't to coach. 290 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Y'all alone told me straight up to her her mouth, 291 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm good where I am. 292 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: We know, we know I would be too. But you know, 293 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: when I look at the coaches who got fired or 294 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: agreed to part ways, do I think Kurt Miller will 295 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: end up in one of these coaching positions. I do, 296 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: just because he's Kurt Miller. Some people think he's a 297 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 4: good coach. Some people don't. I personally don't. I don't 298 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: really care one way or the other. But the one 299 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: that is interesting to me and I want to get 300 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: your thoughts on it is Christie's sides. Does Christie end 301 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: up somewhere this year or not? And before you answer 302 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: and respond, I want to say this. If I'm Christy, 303 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: I feel some type of way I do. You had 304 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. Yeah, they started out late 305 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: like shit. You had people saying fire Christie, fire Christie. 306 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: Then you get the Olympic grade they come back Indiana Fever's. 307 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: A completely different team and. 308 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: A lot of people are like, well, that wasn't CHRISTI 309 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: that was the player's Well, yeah, the players played, But 310 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: as a coach you also have to find a way 311 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: to put players in positions to be successful. Right, The 312 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: coach does play a part, whether people want to give 313 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: them credit or not. But to do what she did 314 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: this year with that team, with all the fans coming forward, 315 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: it just was ugly, right, it was just ugly. But 316 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: for her to be able to do what she did 317 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: with that team get them to the playoffs since twenty sixteen, 318 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: believe was the last time they were in the playoffs. 319 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: And then the season's over and you wait until a 320 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: few days ago to say thank you, but no thank you. 321 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: So it is not lost on me. 322 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: Call me a conspiracy theorist, but it's not lost on 323 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: me that the day after Christie Sides is let go 324 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: is the day that Stephanie White, yes, step down from 325 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: coaching in Connecticut. 326 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: Now. 327 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: I do know that there was a family issue that 328 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: was going on. She you know, was clearly upset during 329 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: her coach's exit interview. We haven't seen Lisa Salters on 330 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: the sideline from Monday Night Football. 331 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: For anyone who's living under a rock, there are a couple. 332 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: So something is going on, right, And in the conversation, 333 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: it was I needed to make a business decision, but 334 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: this decision was also very personal, right, So respect for 335 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is that they got going on and whatever 336 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: they're going through, and I hope that they all in 337 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: their family will be fine. 338 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, common sense leads me. 339 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: To believe that whatever the reasoning was that would lead 340 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: her to leave Connecticut could very well mean she's headed 341 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: back to Indiana. And if you are Indiana in your mind, 342 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're thinking a little bit more of a 343 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: proven coach versus a new coach, right, But I will 344 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: also say, and I'm gonna play devil's advocate. And this 345 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: isn't personal because I love Stephanie sus But if I'm 346 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate, I'm also thinking, all right, when you 347 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: coached in Indiana, you had a team that was already 348 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: kind of put together. When you came to Connecticut, you 349 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: had a team that was already put together. This, right 350 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: here is an opportunity for you to kind of flex 351 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: your chops a little bit if you can, because while 352 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: Indiana is in a better place, assuming that she goes 353 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: to Indiana. 354 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: It's still not a fully put together team. You still have. 355 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Some chemistry issues that you got to figure out. You 356 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: still gotta figure out what's going on in terms of 357 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: your free agents, because Kelsey Mitchell is an unrestricted free agent, 358 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Erica Wheeler is an under restricted free agent, Timmy fink 359 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Binlay is an unrestricted free agent, and we still don't 360 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: know if Melissa Smith is gonna stay. 361 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: Or try to leave. 362 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: So you still got some things that you've got to 363 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: figure out with this Indiana roster. So I think it's 364 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: an interesting position to be in because it's an opportunity 365 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: for her to kind of shut the naysayers up that 366 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: may exist to say, well, Stephanie, you ain't really coached 367 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: your own team just yet. 368 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Right at the same time, I feel you. 369 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: If I'm Christie's sides, I too would feel away, because 370 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: if you wanted to let me go, you should have 371 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: did that shit weeks ago and not when the season 372 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: was over. 373 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: When that season was over, that's number one. Number two. 374 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Let's we forget Christy's only been at this team two years. 375 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: Oh too, this is only her second season as a 376 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: head coach, and who in the hell knew that she 377 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: was going to deal with all of the stuff she 378 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: had to deal with a team that has Caitlyn Clark 379 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: on it, because let's be honest, there is an additional 380 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: set of challenges that comes along with coaching a player 381 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: with that level of stardom. You gotta manage the distractions, 382 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: just man to manage the team. 383 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: You can manage the media. You gotta manage. 384 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: All of that. Like, that's a lot. You put that 385 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: on a brand new coach. 386 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: You gotta manage the fans, you gotta manage everything. But 387 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: you can't. You gotta manage everything. 388 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: So to answer your question, do I think she should 389 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: get another opportunity, Absolutely, I mean she deserves another opportunity 390 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: somewhere because I didn't think Christy was a horrible coach. 391 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: I just think she got dealt a very challenging hand 392 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: and as a new head coach you may not have 393 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: known how to deal with that early on in the season. 394 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: But she wasn't a new head coach. 395 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean new to this team, is what I 396 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: mean to this team, not new to like coaching. 397 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot to take on a lot and 398 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: the expecttions of well, you got Caitlyn at the number 399 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: one pick, so you guys, because there are people who 400 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: were saying they should win the championship. 401 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 4: Now, y'all be real, be realistic. I was very realistic. Yeah, 402 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 4: they should make the playoffs, which they did, And for 403 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: the most part, I totally agree with you. I think 404 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: Christy did as good of a job as she could 405 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 4: have managing all of the craziness, all of the Caitlyn mania, 406 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 4: all of the hype, all of the media. 407 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: It was just so much that came with that. Yeah. 408 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: And then personally, here's where. 409 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: I think they didn't do a very good job, and 410 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: that was with Kelsey Mitchell, who's an unrestricted free agent. 411 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: Because Kelsey Mitchell had a hell of a season this season, 412 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 4: and I don't think she got the credit that she deserved. 413 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: But you said it, there was so much she had 414 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: to deal with and manage, not just Kaitlin, but Kelsey 415 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 4: and Melissa and Erica Wheeler, just everybody. Yeah, So I 416 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 4: think that's going to be very interesting. I want to 417 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: just send positive thoughts and prayers and everything to steph 418 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: White and her family whatever it is she's going through. 419 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: But I thought it. 420 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: Was very interesting the timing of it, right, And you 421 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: said it with Christy and then Stephanie. 422 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: Because here was my thing. 423 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: Maybe the reason why they didn't announce the firing of 424 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: Christie Side sooner is because they were waiting to get 425 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 4: an answer from Stephanie White. 426 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: I not only agree with that, but I was a 427 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: bit confused and the beginning, because this all started to 428 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: break when Annie Constable brought it out first and she 429 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: writes for the Chicago Sun time, so a part of 430 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: me was like, well, wait, is Chicago trump Because what 431 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: I thought, another thing that we have to discuss as 432 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: it relates to coach and feeling vacancies, is not only 433 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: your ability to coach, your record, all that good stuff, 434 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: but it's got to be a good fit, Like you 435 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: don't just bring in anybody, because I would think as 436 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: a GM, I'm thinking of not only how do you coach, 437 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: not only what's your record, not only what's your personality? 438 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: How do you fit with the players that we have here? 439 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: How do you fit with the culture that we have 440 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: at this particular team. You can't just bring anybody into Chicago. 441 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: And again that's nothing against Steph because I've had to 442 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: cover her for the last couple of years. I've worked 443 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: with her at ESPN as a colleague. I think Steph 444 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: is great, but I just don't know if she is 445 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: the kind of coach that would mesh well with the culture. 446 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 447 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: I was confused at first. I was like, wow, Chicago 448 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: would be interested. I heard the same thing about Kurt Miller. 449 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I was like, Kurt Miller, Kurt Miller, that is interesting. 450 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Indiana feels a lot better. It's where she's from, it's 451 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: where she played, she has a history there. She has 452 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: a relationship with all of them in Indiana already, So 453 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: it makes the most sense. So I agree with you 454 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: that it could have absolutely been a if we're going 455 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: to do this, We're only going to do this if 456 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: our replacement is stephanis stuff. 457 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that makes sense. Here's a question I have, 458 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: and then we can move on from Indiana. 459 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: So with Connecticut, Steph she had a veteran team, Yeah, 460 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: Indiana is a very young team. Yeah, and I don't 461 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 4: know this. You've been around Steph way more than I have. 462 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: It's Steph more of a veteran led team coach or 463 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: a young team. 464 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: I think she has something that not many coaches have, 465 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: and that's versatility. 466 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: Right. 467 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: She has the ability to reach younger players and I 468 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: think they respect her because she's a former player and 469 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: they know that, you know, she knows what it means 470 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: to play in this league, and she relates to them 471 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: in ways that I don't think some other coaches do. 472 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: I think of players like Djna Carrington, Tyan here Is 473 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: and younger players who adapted to her style, adapted to 474 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: what she was asking of them, how she helped them 475 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: to elevate. But I also think it benefited her to 476 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: have players like Alyssa and dB and Brianna Jones and 477 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: players who had been there, done that on a team 478 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: that had also been there and done that, for sure, 479 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: So I think there was a mutual benefit for both 480 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: in that scenario. So I don't want to say that 481 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: she can't, you know what I mean, I think that 482 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: she can. One thing that I know I talked to 483 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: Stuff about was just the difference in coming from a 484 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: college program coming back to the w And one thing 485 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: that she had mentioned in our conversation was I don't 486 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: have to deal with recruitment, and that's not something that 487 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: I wanted. 488 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: To deal with. 489 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: And I know you know this, you've coached at the 490 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: college level, but recruiting players versus having a GM handle 491 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: all that and all I need to do is just coach. 492 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Yes, right, So I think that. 493 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: The big difference, and I think that some of the 494 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: people who may criticize Steph based off the performance at 495 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt don't factor in how recruitment plays a role in 496 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: your roster. You can only coach the talent that you have, right, 497 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: So I believe that she will do fine in Indiana. 498 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: I totally believe she'll do fine in Indiana. But I'm 499 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: also very concerned about what Connecticut gonna look like because 500 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: they need to find a coach. And let us also 501 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: not forget that this is around the time, like those 502 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: four teams that don't have GMS, there's an expansion draft 503 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: that's about to happen, so you gotta think about player protections. 504 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: You might want to try to get you a coach 505 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: up in here quick that can help with these decisions 506 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: that made before December six. No doubt, as we move on, 507 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: we do know that again, there are other head coaching vacancies, 508 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: and we kind of touched on it a little bit 509 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: as it relates to finding a good fit. I think 510 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: one of the sexier jobs that people may not be 511 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: talking about is la. 512 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: La is what makes that a sexy job. I feel 513 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: like La has all of the because it's La. Oh. 514 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm looking at who you potentially could have. You have 515 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: a roster who should be good to go. 516 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: You have a Rakia Jackson who RecA showed JMF. 517 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: Jackson sorry beast waiting to be unleashed. 518 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, need to be unleased, like he's going to be 519 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: a hell of a pro. 520 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't hear you off. But that kid 521 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: right there, or that young lady, excuse me, can go? 522 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: She could ball? Yeah? 523 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Ball. You know, I got a special love for Rikia 524 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: because that's a Detroit girl. So you feel me, you 525 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: know how we roll. But anyway, Rikia is good. You 526 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: got a veteran that can lead MVP caliber player in 527 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: Dierka Hanby, and you could potentially have the first round 528 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: draft pick that could also potentially. 529 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: Pay I get you, okay, So yeah that's real sexy. 530 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying sexy, I'm saying you have the 531 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: potential roster that could make some noise. I think the 532 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: only reason I won't say the only, but I think 533 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: a large reason Kurt wasn't able to get it done 534 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: with injuries. You can't help that, right, injuries are injuries. 535 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: It ain't his first time having to deal with a 536 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: roster full of injuries, but it may be the first 537 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: time as a pro that he had to deal with 538 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: a roster full of injuries and not enough on his 539 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: bench to overcome it. He had enough on his bench 540 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: to overcome it in Connecticut. You couldn't overcome that in LA, 541 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: not last season or this season. And so I thought 542 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: it was a little wild to dismiss him. But again, 543 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: your record is what your record is, right, But coming in, 544 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: come on, now, that's a sexy job. 545 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: No, it is, it is, Yeah, it is. 546 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 4: And so when you mentioned sexy, and I don't know 547 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: if I would you sexy. 548 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: For this team. 549 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: But help me understand why isn't Atlanta any better than 550 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 4: they are because they ain't got some talent? 551 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: Ty A very good question. I think Atlanta is one 552 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: of those teams. And you tell me if you've ever 553 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: experienced this, But I think that sometimes you have a 554 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: team that just needs a different voice, right, Like, sometimes 555 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: you have a team that it's not the talent. It's 556 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: not even that the person coaching can't coach, it's just 557 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: maybe these two need to go separate ways. And we 558 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: give this team a different voice. We give this voice 559 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: a different team and widout. You get what I'm saying, Like, 560 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: just simply missing Cheyenne Parker shouldn't have been enough to 561 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: make I mean, when you've got a Jordan Canada at 562 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: Leisha Gray was balling Ryan Howard out of control with 563 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: the way that she's able to control to rock, facilitate, shoot, 564 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: like she's everything on the court, and you had Tina 565 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Charles and granted Tina was you know, Tina was Tina, 566 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: but it just felt like that roster should have been 567 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: better at least the seven or succeed, Like I felt 568 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: like that roster should. 569 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: Have been better than Phoenix. I agree one hundred percent. Yeah, 570 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: I just think they needed a new voice, right, they 571 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: just needed a new voice. I'll take that. We've talked 572 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: about Chicago. 573 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: I want to go to Dallas real quick because well, 574 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season, I thought Dallas would 575 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 4: be better than they were, but then they had all 576 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: the injuries they dealt with. Right, you didn't have Satu 577 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: for the first half of the season. Natasha Howard got hurt. 578 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, who was the hell of a rookie, she 579 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: got hurt. Yeah, so they were never really healthy, and 580 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: then after the Olympics they come back and I thought. 581 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: They played well. 582 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: There are a lot of really good unrestricted free agents, 583 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: but I think one of the better ones is Satu Sobly, 584 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: and I think it will be real interesting to see 585 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: if she leaves or, depending on who they hire as 586 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: a coach, if she makes the decision to stay. 587 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: That is a very good observation. 588 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I was so overjoyed watching the excitement from Satu Sabili 589 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: at her sister winning the WNBA finals, right, But it 590 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: was that excitement, that happiness for your sister, that oh, 591 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, anybody who loves. 592 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: Their family members seeing them in that moment was great. 593 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: But I also felt like I saw a make some 594 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: space for your girl, because maybe we can pull a 595 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Cheney and Nekka and team up and be on the 596 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: same squad. So to answer your question, I not only 597 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: think that Satu could leave Dallas, but I think they 598 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: could make room for Satu in New York and that 599 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: nast And I'm saying, if you want to run it back, 600 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: because New York got some free agency questions, they got 601 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: an answer to if you want to run it back, 602 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you got a good chance of doing that adding a 603 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: unicuarantine your roster. Now, I don't know money, I haven't 604 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: really taken a deep dive into salary cap and who 605 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: can afford what right now. I probably do that kind 606 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: of stuff as we get closer to the expansion draft 607 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. But just theoretically, if you could add a 608 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Sa tou sobly to your roster New York, you got 609 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: a shot to win it back. And so I don't 610 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: know if Dallas can count on having that piece moving forward, 611 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: because she seemed like she was real too quick to 612 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: put on that New York Championship hat. Is what I'm 613 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: saying for you to be playing on an opposite squad. 614 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: You was really quick to put that liberty hat on. 615 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: Your Listen, sister or not, I ain't rocking with you 616 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: like sister. You you did what I haven't been able 617 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: to do. Yeo before me babysit for real. 618 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: And let's be honest, if. 619 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: We're looking at from a talent perspective, if you gave 620 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: me between Niara and Satu, I would have been like, 621 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: oh well, Sa Touo would probably win a ship first. 622 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you for proving us wrong. 623 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: But see here. 624 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: Here's the other thing, because I think, at least for me, 625 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: sometimes I keep forgetting about the expansion Draft. Yeah, right, Like, 626 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: there are so many great players, and again, what is 627 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: it I think each team can protect six six? 628 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Alyssa is unrestricted, Bree Jones is unrestricted, Tory 629 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: Walker kimbro is unrestricted, Aerial Power is Tina Charles, there 630 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: are so many unrestricted returner. Diamond Deshields is unrestricted. There's 631 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: so many unrestricted free agents this year. Kandice Parker set 632 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: the standard back in twenty twenty one when she left 633 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: LA and went to Chicago. So I can't even say, 634 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: like now that people won't make major moves like we've 635 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: seen over the last three years. Now, major moves can 636 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and will be made in the w A. 637 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: Yes, here's what I love about the Expansion Draft. I 638 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: love about the new teams. There are going to be 639 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: players who got waived, who got cut that will now 640 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 4: hopefully find a spot. 641 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: But I almost say it, I'm. 642 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: Gonna put it out there like her lover hater. I 643 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: don't know how y'all feel about it, but I'm a 644 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: big Odyssey Sims fan. Odyssey Sims needs to be the 645 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: Valkyrie's point guard. 646 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: Can you tell me why Odyssey Simms is not? 647 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: I can't on a rock here, Seriously, I've been trying 648 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: to figure this out all season. When Dallas had her, 649 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: and I understood they had her because it was a hardship. 650 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: They had to let her go. Players came back, but 651 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: you didn't. It could have let somebody else go because 652 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: Odyssey Sims, to me, is one of the best pgs 653 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 4: in the league. 654 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: Yes she is. 655 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: You can see how LA turned themselves around when they 656 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: added Odyssey Sims to that roster. I don't understand why 657 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Odyssey Sims is always a seven day contract player or 658 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: hardship player. 659 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: Serves to be on as roster without question. 660 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, then, Cheryl, is there a 661 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: specific place or a specific coach who you like to 662 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: see because I think the one I'll say this before 663 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: you answer that. Washington to me is a very interesting 664 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: situation because that team started off oh one to eleven 665 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: or on twelve and ended up being in the fight 666 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: for a playoff spot at. 667 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: The end of the season. 668 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: I think Washington again was another team that was just 669 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: plagued by injuries. There was no Shakira for a minute, 670 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: there was no Britney Sykes, who I love, one of 671 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: the best defending guards in the league if you ask me, 672 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: could be in defensive player conversation every. 673 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 2: Year if she's healthy. So there was no Sykes. 674 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: Ariel Atkins kind of had to step up into a 675 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: new role this year. Then they lose my Easha heinz 676 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: Allen midway through the season to Minnesota. Just feels like 677 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: that was a team that had the potential to still 678 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: be in it and for whatever reasons, injury to take 679 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: them out of it. 680 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: And I don't know if. 681 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: That's Eric Tebow or if that's just the way the 682 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: roster was constructed. Alia Edwards coming to that team doing 683 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: everything she could do as a rookie just amazing. But 684 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: you expect that from Yukon players. They know how to adapt, 685 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: they know how to transition into the WNBA. 686 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: So is there a coach? 687 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: Is there a team that you like to see someone 688 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: in Like would you like to see Eric Tibow somewhere else? 689 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: Or is there a coach that you'd like to see 690 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: on Washington? Is there either or that stands out to you. 691 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: I thought the Mystic situation was interesting from day one 692 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 4: when Elena was like, trade me or I ain't playing, 693 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 4: but I know coach Tibo like oh Man Tebo. Yeah, 694 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 4: and I love coach Tibo. I don't know Eric well 695 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 4: enough one way or the other, but I agree with you. 696 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: They too dealt with a lot of injuries early on 697 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 4: and you still made the playoffs. So to me, I 698 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: don't put the start of the season on Eric. I 699 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 4: put it on just luck, injuries, all of that. But 700 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: we mentioned one earlier. I watched Breon January coach in 701 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 4: the playoffs. I watched what she did on the sideline. 702 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 4: I would love to see Breed January be in Atlanta. 703 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 4: I think she could be really good in Atlanta. And 704 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: I hate to do this to Becky because Charity lost 705 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 4: one assistant, but Tyler Marsh is one hell of a coach. 706 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: Same. 707 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 4: I hate doing that to Becky since Charity lost Natalie, 708 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 4: but Tyler Marsh should be somebody's head coach. And I 709 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 4: already said Spoon. I think Spoon deserves another shot somewhere. 710 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 711 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind seeing Spoon in Dallas. I'm gonna put 712 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 4: this out there and I have no idea. 713 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: If she's interested what she wants to do. I'd love 714 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: to see Cheryl Miller coaching back in the league. That 715 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: would be so amazing to see Cheryl back in the league. 716 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: That would say so amazing because it looked like she 717 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: was having a good old fun time out there for 718 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: All Star. 719 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, and remember she coached Phoenix see autumn years 720 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: at Phoenix. Yeah. I just believe she's the one who 721 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: gave them the nickname Expector. 722 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 4: She's one on the voice when you hear it, myighty Mercury. 723 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's her. 724 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: That is her. 725 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 726 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: But I will also say, and maybe it's just because 727 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 4: you kind of put me on the spot, I think 728 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 4: there are enough qualified coaches out there that we don't 729 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: have to go back to recycling the same ones. Although 730 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be mad if Kurt Miller got one of 731 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 4: these coaching jobs. 732 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 733 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: Again, we have seven and we haven't even talked about 734 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: who could potentially be GMS. 735 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: That's even a whole different conversation. 736 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 737 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: And again we can't forget that there are two other 738 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: teams that are part of expansion that are going to 739 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: need head coaches and are going to need general managers. 740 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: And we've already heard the rumors that a fourth expansion 741 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: team could be on the horizon by twenty twenty six, 742 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: So there are opportunities and we need to make sure 743 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: that we are looking. 744 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 2: And by we I just mean the WABS we used 745 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: to make sure that they are looking at all avenues. 746 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: Because it's not saying that some of these people aren't 747 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: good coaches or deserving of another job, like I don't 748 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: think Literacia Tremble should be without a job. I just 749 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: also think placement culture, understanding the fit is going to matter. 750 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: A coaching fit is just as important to me as 751 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: a player fit. 752 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: It is, but you know what else is important And 753 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 4: this isn't about any particular head coach, but I also 754 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 4: feel like as a head coach, you have the responsibility 755 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 4: of coaching your team, running your team, making sure you 756 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 4: have the right people around your team, but also on 757 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 4: your staff. I think a lot of these head coaches 758 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 4: or some not a lot higher their friends and they're 759 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: not the ones that can really help you get your 760 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 4: team to the next level. And that's not calling out 761 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 4: any particular coach. I just think as a head coach, 762 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 4: when you start hiring, you need to look at the 763 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: strengths that your assistants bring. And I have been very 764 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: vocal about former players being given more opportunity in the league. 765 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 4: And that's not saying coaching. It could be from office, 766 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 4: it could be any of that, because I think there 767 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 4: are a lot of former players who have coached in 768 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 4: high school, I've coached in college, have been doing this 769 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 4: for a while that are really good. They just haven't 770 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 4: been given opportunity. But I also believe that all great 771 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 4: players don't necessarily make great coaches. But there are so 772 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 4: many other things you can do with the team besides coach, 773 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 4: And with at least these three teams who are needing GMS, 774 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: maybe there's a place where some of the former players. 775 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: Can go there. But I'm going to raise my hand. 776 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: I'm going to put this out there and say. 777 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 4: There are a couple of vacancies that if they were 778 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 4: looking for an assistant coach, I would raise my hand. 779 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh you heard it here first, y'all. Not a head coach. 780 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: I don't want to make a head coach. Charlotte here 781 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 2: dropping breaking news on her own damn. 782 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 4: Show, breaking news news show. But let me just rep 783 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: eat that. I don't want to get a hand coach. 784 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: I would love to be in a system, and it 785 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 4: ain't all. 786 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: The teams with vacasies. 787 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 4: It's only a couple, and I will tell you one 788 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: being the Dallas Wings. Yes, it's Texas, it's Texas. It 789 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: excites me to see what's gonna happen. I have no 790 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 4: idea who's gonna be hired where, but I'm excited to 791 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: see what happens. 792 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: I am also very excited. 793 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: I think this is the kind of thing that comes 794 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: along with the growth of the game. And Dallas, y'all 795 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: need to hit up your girl, shir y'all here in 796 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: these streets. 797 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: And she's trying to tell y'all, I ain't in the 798 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: streets like that though. 799 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 4: Listen, she says, she outside, good, good, I'll put me 800 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 4: in the street. 801 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, y'all. 802 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna level off just a 803 00:40:49,560 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: little bit. We're back with more levels to this. It's 804 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: your girl, Tarrika Foster Bradsby, I got my girls. Cheryl's 805 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: swoops here and yeah, we've just kind of been talking 806 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: about all of the coaching vacancies and what the WNBA 807 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: could look like in twenty twenty five, and I really 808 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: just think to put a bow on this conversation that 809 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: this is just a part of growth. Right, I've seen 810 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of comments on social media as it relates to, oh, 811 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: the WNBA is looking like the NFL, or the WNBA 812 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: is looking like the NBA. I mean, we've seen this 813 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: shift happen for players and players on rosters over the 814 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: last several years, so it only makes sense that this 815 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: kind of change would start to happen. But as we 816 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: get on out of here, we need to make sure 817 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: that we are leveling up with my girl, Cheryl. 818 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: So, Cheryl, what do you have for us today? All right, y'all? 819 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 4: So today what I want to leave you with. It's 820 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 4: very short, sweet and simple, but I also feel like 821 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 4: it's pretty deep because all of us have things that 822 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 4: are challenging at times and things that we go through 823 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 4: every single day. So this quote is for all of us, 824 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 4: and it says challenges are what make life interesting, and 825 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 4: overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. So I hope 826 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 4: that resonates with somebody, that it. 827 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 2: Hits you right where you need it. It gives you 828 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: just what you need, and everybody have a blessed week.