1 00:00:07,226 --> 00:00:09,666 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger as a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:14,266 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with My Heart Radio. What's up, everybody, 3 00:00:14,266 --> 00:00:16,506 Speaker 1: This is Peter Schreeger. You're listening to the Season with 4 00:00:16,546 --> 00:00:20,426 Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger, a week eighteen episode that we're recording two 5 00:00:20,506 --> 00:00:24,906 Speaker 1: days later than we were planning on recording, UM on Tuesday. 6 00:00:24,946 --> 00:00:27,226 Speaker 1: We're actually here on Thursday morning, And the reason we 7 00:00:27,226 --> 00:00:31,026 Speaker 1: didn't record anything on Tuesday was for obvious reasons. It 8 00:00:31,146 --> 00:00:36,546 Speaker 1: was still in the immediate aftermath of the Damar Hamlin 9 00:00:36,906 --> 00:00:40,106 Speaker 1: situation Monday night during Monday Night football, and I wanted 10 00:00:40,106 --> 00:00:43,786 Speaker 1: to start off this podcast by kind of talking about 11 00:00:44,186 --> 00:00:48,426 Speaker 1: when it's appropriate and how I'm handling turning the page 12 00:00:48,466 --> 00:00:50,906 Speaker 1: in such a way metaphorically you don't ever turn the 13 00:00:50,906 --> 00:00:55,666 Speaker 1: page from it, but from going from that conversation topic 14 00:00:55,786 --> 00:00:58,746 Speaker 1: and when it's inappropriate to talk football, and then saying, hey, 15 00:00:58,746 --> 00:01:02,546 Speaker 1: there is games on Sunday. We do love football and 16 00:01:02,626 --> 00:01:05,146 Speaker 1: we do want to talk about the sport. I actually 17 00:01:05,586 --> 00:01:08,506 Speaker 1: I leaned on a lot of coaches that I speak 18 00:01:08,546 --> 00:01:11,266 Speaker 1: with on a regular basis this past weekend, was texting 19 00:01:11,306 --> 00:01:13,586 Speaker 1: them and UM, I don't think he would mind me 20 00:01:13,626 --> 00:01:15,946 Speaker 1: saying it. Sean McDermott texted me and said, hey, thanks 21 00:01:16,226 --> 00:01:17,626 Speaker 1: for all the work that you guys are doing on 22 00:01:17,666 --> 00:01:19,866 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football. You guys are leading from the front, 23 00:01:19,866 --> 00:01:24,546 Speaker 1: and I thought your show today was beautiful. That was Tuesday. Wednesday, Uh, 24 00:01:24,706 --> 00:01:28,546 Speaker 1: still no real update on tomorrow, Hamlin and we did 25 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:32,226 Speaker 1: a sprinkling of football Talk and now Thursday kind of 26 00:01:32,226 --> 00:01:33,986 Speaker 1: did a half and half where we gave you the 27 00:01:34,026 --> 00:01:36,666 Speaker 1: latest up to date news and we had reporters on 28 00:01:36,706 --> 00:01:38,866 Speaker 1: the ground in both Buffalo and at the hospital, and 29 00:01:39,226 --> 00:01:42,986 Speaker 1: also great reporters from the NFL network offering insights on 30 00:01:43,466 --> 00:01:46,866 Speaker 1: not only, uh, you know, the Hamlet situation, but also 31 00:01:47,186 --> 00:01:50,586 Speaker 1: what the Bills Bengals game situation would be, whether they'd 32 00:01:50,626 --> 00:01:52,306 Speaker 1: replay it or whether they're not going to replay it, 33 00:01:52,346 --> 00:01:54,586 Speaker 1: and how they would break that down. All that is 34 00:01:55,266 --> 00:01:58,506 Speaker 1: is important because I you know, we gotta do a 35 00:01:58,506 --> 00:02:02,626 Speaker 1: podcast talking football, and we can do the same things, 36 00:02:03,106 --> 00:02:06,746 Speaker 1: uh simultaneously. We could to vote our energy, g's in 37 00:02:06,786 --> 00:02:09,786 Speaker 1: our time and our hearts to Damore Hamlin and his 38 00:02:09,906 --> 00:02:12,266 Speaker 1: family and this incredible fight that he's in right now. 39 00:02:12,706 --> 00:02:16,426 Speaker 1: But we could also talk about the games and acknowledge 40 00:02:16,426 --> 00:02:18,706 Speaker 1: and be self aware that saying, hey, the games might 41 00:02:18,706 --> 00:02:21,266 Speaker 1: feel like they're secondary, they don't matter, but they also 42 00:02:21,346 --> 00:02:25,666 Speaker 1: are um part of the NFL. And it's the final 43 00:02:25,746 --> 00:02:29,066 Speaker 1: week of what's been an amazing season, and uh, we 44 00:02:29,186 --> 00:02:34,306 Speaker 1: gotta tackle that too. I I thought McDermott and Zach 45 00:02:34,346 --> 00:02:37,026 Speaker 1: Taylor were incredible on Monday night, and I wanted to 46 00:02:37,066 --> 00:02:40,946 Speaker 1: use this monologue to kind of give a little I 47 00:02:40,986 --> 00:02:47,706 Speaker 1: guess the word would be respect and uh shine props 48 00:02:47,786 --> 00:02:52,226 Speaker 1: if you will for their grace under fire. Uh. The 49 00:02:52,306 --> 00:02:55,706 Speaker 1: story goes that, you know, Zach Taylor was down there 50 00:02:55,906 --> 00:02:59,706 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott said to him, so like, I've got 51 00:02:59,706 --> 00:03:01,506 Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. I gotta be with Tamar 52 00:03:01,706 --> 00:03:04,066 Speaker 1: and Zach Taylor not thinking about what that would mean 53 00:03:04,066 --> 00:03:06,866 Speaker 1: for playoff potential and not thinking that his team was 54 00:03:06,866 --> 00:03:10,146 Speaker 1: was rolling, not thinking that okay, yes, so now if 55 00:03:10,346 --> 00:03:12,866 Speaker 1: your team refuses to take the field, but my team stays, 56 00:03:13,146 --> 00:03:15,266 Speaker 1: we get a forfeit and that would actually help us 57 00:03:15,266 --> 00:03:18,826 Speaker 1: in the stay. Like that stuff wasn't even even in 58 00:03:18,946 --> 00:03:21,666 Speaker 1: his mind. It wasn't even brought up. And Zach Taylor 59 00:03:21,706 --> 00:03:24,426 Speaker 1: was like, of course. And then what Taylor said was 60 00:03:25,226 --> 00:03:27,906 Speaker 1: his captain's burrow and the guys were like, can we go? 61 00:03:27,946 --> 00:03:31,826 Speaker 1: And speak with the Bills captains, which doesn't happen, and 62 00:03:31,866 --> 00:03:34,226 Speaker 1: of course sac Taylor grab McDermott was like that the 63 00:03:34,266 --> 00:03:36,506 Speaker 1: captains want to speak to your captain said, yes, talk 64 00:03:36,986 --> 00:03:38,706 Speaker 1: and it was decided right then and there that they're 65 00:03:38,706 --> 00:03:42,906 Speaker 1: not going to take the field. Um. Zach Taylor on 66 00:03:42,946 --> 00:03:45,986 Speaker 1: a fourth and one earlier this season called an end 67 00:03:46,026 --> 00:03:48,186 Speaker 1: around to Trent Taylor and I got stuff at the 68 00:03:48,226 --> 00:03:50,186 Speaker 1: goal line against the Chiefs, and I remember going on 69 00:03:50,186 --> 00:03:53,666 Speaker 1: Twitter in the real time and the amount of vitriol 70 00:03:53,866 --> 00:03:55,826 Speaker 1: and the amount of just fire this guy. This is 71 00:03:55,866 --> 00:03:58,626 Speaker 1: the guy who had been to the Super Bowl year earlier, um, 72 00:03:58,666 --> 00:04:01,066 Speaker 1: and a guy whose players love him and has taken 73 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:03,266 Speaker 1: the Bengals from the like the immediate reaction when we 74 00:04:03,306 --> 00:04:05,386 Speaker 1: watched these games is that these coaches that they can't 75 00:04:05,426 --> 00:04:08,426 Speaker 1: get a fourth oun call right or if they mismanaged 76 00:04:08,426 --> 00:04:11,586 Speaker 1: the clock or fire them, fire them, fire them. I 77 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:13,626 Speaker 1: don't know. My takeaway from this week was there's so 78 00:04:13,706 --> 00:04:17,546 Speaker 1: much more to coaching than in game management and you know, 79 00:04:17,706 --> 00:04:22,986 Speaker 1: fourth down calls and time out. There's an emotional element 80 00:04:23,026 --> 00:04:25,346 Speaker 1: to this, there is a leadership element to this, and 81 00:04:25,386 --> 00:04:29,826 Speaker 1: there is truly a human element to this, and I 82 00:04:29,866 --> 00:04:32,546 Speaker 1: think that's part about being a coach that maybe doesn't 83 00:04:32,586 --> 00:04:35,346 Speaker 1: get talked about enough. And that's why some coaches who 84 00:04:35,466 --> 00:04:39,546 Speaker 1: who do have UM, you know, maybe questionable calls or 85 00:04:39,586 --> 00:04:41,906 Speaker 1: losing records, get another shot because people in the building 86 00:04:41,946 --> 00:04:44,106 Speaker 1: know that this guy's a leader of men and women. 87 00:04:44,266 --> 00:04:48,186 Speaker 1: And then this guy is different than just UH an 88 00:04:48,186 --> 00:04:50,586 Speaker 1: almanac or a binder that you go to and say, 89 00:04:50,586 --> 00:04:52,226 Speaker 1: what do I do on fourth and three? Here's what 90 00:04:52,306 --> 00:04:54,546 Speaker 1: it's here's what they tell you. I think about the 91 00:04:54,546 --> 00:04:57,386 Speaker 1: different teams and the tragedies that they've had to face, 92 00:04:57,506 --> 00:05:00,306 Speaker 1: and how these coaches are turned to UM and they're 93 00:05:00,306 --> 00:05:05,786 Speaker 1: asked to lead the Bills this season. I mean, gosh, 94 00:05:06,186 --> 00:05:09,466 Speaker 1: has any team in the history of the sport had 95 00:05:09,466 --> 00:05:13,826 Speaker 1: to go through more just negative, negative, negative, adverse situations 96 00:05:14,026 --> 00:05:17,026 Speaker 1: time after time for time not to go through a 97 00:05:17,026 --> 00:05:19,546 Speaker 1: timeline of it. And if they do win the Super Bowl, 98 00:05:19,546 --> 00:05:20,826 Speaker 1: trust me, this is gonna be a hell of a 99 00:05:20,826 --> 00:05:25,946 Speaker 1: book that McDermott writes. Uh. But the owner Kimpagoulas fell 100 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:29,186 Speaker 1: on some unfortunate health events this summer that leads to 101 00:05:30,266 --> 00:05:34,826 Speaker 1: a season where Dawson Knox startight end, his brother unexpectedly 102 00:05:34,866 --> 00:05:38,226 Speaker 1: passes away early, and the loved player, his brother passes away. 103 00:05:38,706 --> 00:05:43,866 Speaker 1: Talking about multiple weather events, you're talking about a senseless 104 00:05:43,946 --> 00:05:46,906 Speaker 1: killing and a supermarket in Buffalo that rock that that 105 00:05:47,146 --> 00:05:49,706 Speaker 1: market in a way that obviously trickles down to the 106 00:05:49,746 --> 00:05:53,186 Speaker 1: team talking about a fire on New Year's Eve that 107 00:05:53,266 --> 00:05:55,306 Speaker 1: did not get a lot of national press, that killed 108 00:05:55,746 --> 00:05:59,426 Speaker 1: many people in the city. And you're talking about a 109 00:05:59,546 --> 00:06:02,586 Speaker 1: team that was coming off of a year where they 110 00:06:02,586 --> 00:06:04,466 Speaker 1: came just short of rich in the a f C 111 00:06:04,586 --> 00:06:07,746 Speaker 1: Championship Game and lost in historic fashion. You add this 112 00:06:08,866 --> 00:06:12,186 Speaker 1: piece to this. You're talking about resiliency, but you're also 113 00:06:12,226 --> 00:06:15,066 Speaker 1: talking about leadership that these guys all turned to Sean 114 00:06:15,146 --> 00:06:18,306 Speaker 1: McDermott and say that's our dude. And when it comes 115 00:06:18,306 --> 00:06:20,986 Speaker 1: to Zach Taylor, those Bengals players all turned to Zach 116 00:06:20,986 --> 00:06:23,746 Speaker 1: Taylor and say that's our dude. They're not worried about 117 00:06:23,746 --> 00:06:26,026 Speaker 1: the fourth and one call about Trent to turn Taylor 118 00:06:26,106 --> 00:06:28,666 Speaker 1: in Week six or whatever it was. They're not thinking 119 00:06:28,666 --> 00:06:30,986 Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott and a decision in the a f 120 00:06:31,026 --> 00:06:34,106 Speaker 1: C Championship Game not to squib kick it, or how 121 00:06:34,146 --> 00:06:37,346 Speaker 1: they handled the final moments of that game. UH. The 122 00:06:37,386 --> 00:06:40,586 Speaker 1: AFC Divisional Round last year, UH coaching is a lot 123 00:06:40,666 --> 00:06:44,466 Speaker 1: more than that. Coaching is emotional like you. Coaching is 124 00:06:45,306 --> 00:06:48,186 Speaker 1: being a person that everyone in the building can go to. 125 00:06:48,866 --> 00:06:51,786 Speaker 1: And coaching is having the amount of vulnerability that you 126 00:06:51,826 --> 00:06:53,826 Speaker 1: can have to turn to others and say, hey, I 127 00:06:53,866 --> 00:06:56,866 Speaker 1: need a hand. I have been exchanging text with a 128 00:06:56,906 --> 00:06:59,546 Speaker 1: lot of these coaches. One of the interesting things New 129 00:06:59,626 --> 00:07:02,746 Speaker 1: York Giants had coach Brian Dable. You know, Brian Dable 130 00:07:03,026 --> 00:07:05,506 Speaker 1: was a coach on the staff when they drafted to 131 00:07:05,586 --> 00:07:07,746 Speaker 1: mar Hamlin last year. And Brian Dable when he got 132 00:07:07,786 --> 00:07:10,066 Speaker 1: the job in Buffalo, was sure to work with his 133 00:07:10,146 --> 00:07:12,186 Speaker 1: general manager Joe Shane, who we've had on as a 134 00:07:12,226 --> 00:07:14,866 Speaker 1: guest here, who was part of the front office that 135 00:07:15,306 --> 00:07:18,026 Speaker 1: that drafted UM to mar Hamblin a season ago. And 136 00:07:18,106 --> 00:07:19,186 Speaker 1: part of what they want to do is they wanted 137 00:07:19,186 --> 00:07:21,786 Speaker 1: to build a culture, and they wanted to build UM 138 00:07:22,186 --> 00:07:24,026 Speaker 1: things the way that they had it in Buffalo, where 139 00:07:24,066 --> 00:07:26,026 Speaker 1: it's the right kinds of people and and in the 140 00:07:26,026 --> 00:07:28,586 Speaker 1: face of what Sean McDermott was leading, and also from 141 00:07:28,626 --> 00:07:30,506 Speaker 1: top to bottom on the roster, guys that you want 142 00:07:30,506 --> 00:07:33,066 Speaker 1: to be around, and guys that you want to fight for, 143 00:07:33,226 --> 00:07:35,506 Speaker 1: and guys who want to fight with and they went 144 00:07:35,546 --> 00:07:37,586 Speaker 1: into debt. They went and brought in Davis Webb. They 145 00:07:37,586 --> 00:07:39,826 Speaker 1: went and they brought in John Feliciano. They went out 146 00:07:39,866 --> 00:07:42,506 Speaker 1: and they got back Matt Brita and Isaiah Hodgens and 147 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:46,226 Speaker 1: uh Nick McLeod who was in the same defensive backfield 148 00:07:46,386 --> 00:07:50,546 Speaker 1: as as uh To more Hamlin last year in Buffalo. 149 00:07:50,626 --> 00:07:54,106 Speaker 1: He's now a Giant. All up and down that Giant's 150 00:07:54,106 --> 00:07:56,546 Speaker 1: building in that locker room are former Bills, And that's 151 00:07:56,586 --> 00:08:00,106 Speaker 1: the coach, it's the GM, it's players. And I think 152 00:08:00,146 --> 00:08:03,706 Speaker 1: about coaching and Daboll having to come to his team 153 00:08:03,866 --> 00:08:06,226 Speaker 1: and saying, that's one of our brothers. You know, he's 154 00:08:06,226 --> 00:08:08,706 Speaker 1: not with us in in our in our locker room anymore. 155 00:08:08,706 --> 00:08:10,466 Speaker 1: But we all know that guy. And for those of 156 00:08:10,506 --> 00:08:12,746 Speaker 1: you guys who don't know that guy, there are players 157 00:08:12,786 --> 00:08:14,786 Speaker 1: on this lock in this locker room who do know 158 00:08:14,826 --> 00:08:17,426 Speaker 1: that guy and are hurting right now. So many great 159 00:08:17,426 --> 00:08:21,386 Speaker 1: examples of leadership and coaching this week, through this horrible tragedy, 160 00:08:22,146 --> 00:08:24,946 Speaker 1: UM and coaches looking to their players and saying I'm 161 00:08:24,986 --> 00:08:28,226 Speaker 1: here on someone you can come to. And mental health 162 00:08:28,266 --> 00:08:30,266 Speaker 1: matters just as much as this week a teen battle. 163 00:08:31,346 --> 00:08:34,226 Speaker 1: I love that our league has rallied around this and 164 00:08:34,386 --> 00:08:37,106 Speaker 1: that we've seen the best that the league has to offer. 165 00:08:37,186 --> 00:08:39,066 Speaker 1: And by the league, I mean the players, two coaches, 166 00:08:39,066 --> 00:08:42,786 Speaker 1: and all the people who work UH at the various organizations. 167 00:08:43,426 --> 00:08:46,426 Speaker 1: And I hope that everything, UH does take a turn 168 00:08:46,466 --> 00:08:48,706 Speaker 1: for the better. As we're recording this, we're waiting for 169 00:08:48,706 --> 00:08:51,426 Speaker 1: for great news. UM. But I also know it is 170 00:08:51,426 --> 00:08:53,466 Speaker 1: appropriate to talk about football, and we're gonna do that 171 00:08:53,466 --> 00:08:56,346 Speaker 1: as a football podcast, and UH, We're gonna look at 172 00:08:56,346 --> 00:08:58,066 Speaker 1: the games on Sunday, but we're also going to look 173 00:08:58,106 --> 00:09:00,746 Speaker 1: at some of the some of the different storylines that 174 00:09:00,786 --> 00:09:03,146 Speaker 1: goes into it. And we're talking about leadership so much. 175 00:09:03,186 --> 00:09:07,546 Speaker 1: And I think that's the theme of this week's show. Uh. Ironically, 176 00:09:09,066 --> 00:09:12,466 Speaker 1: a quote that I love, UM that comes up. There's 177 00:09:12,506 --> 00:09:16,786 Speaker 1: an NFL films series called The Missing Rings and it's 178 00:09:16,906 --> 00:09:20,906 Speaker 1: really good, and The Missing Rings chronicles all the great 179 00:09:20,986 --> 00:09:23,626 Speaker 1: teams that didn't win Super Bowls, and it's different teams 180 00:09:23,666 --> 00:09:26,746 Speaker 1: at a different hour. And they did the nineties Bills 181 00:09:26,826 --> 00:09:28,866 Speaker 1: and this must have been from like five years ago. 182 00:09:29,506 --> 00:09:32,586 Speaker 1: And Marv Levy looks to the camera and Marv Levy was, 183 00:09:32,586 --> 00:09:34,226 Speaker 1: of course the Hall of Fame coach of the Bills, 184 00:09:34,226 --> 00:09:36,946 Speaker 1: who lost four Super Bowls. He looks at the camera 185 00:09:36,986 --> 00:09:39,026 Speaker 1: and he says, after that first Super Bowl, after the 186 00:09:39,066 --> 00:09:42,666 Speaker 1: Norwood miss field goal, he came into the locker room 187 00:09:42,666 --> 00:09:46,946 Speaker 1: and the guys were devastated, and he quoted Sir Andrew 188 00:09:47,026 --> 00:09:50,706 Speaker 1: Barton and he said, this poem allowed. Now, Marv Levy 189 00:09:50,706 --> 00:09:54,186 Speaker 1: has a military background. He's a military historian. He was 190 00:09:54,226 --> 00:09:56,906 Speaker 1: able to rattle this off to his guys after a 191 00:09:57,146 --> 00:10:00,106 Speaker 1: heartbreaking loss in the Super Bowl. He said, fight on 192 00:10:00,226 --> 00:10:03,186 Speaker 1: my men. I am hurt, but I am not slain. 193 00:10:03,946 --> 00:10:06,266 Speaker 1: I laid me down and bleed awhile, and then I'll 194 00:10:06,466 --> 00:10:10,866 Speaker 1: eyes and I'll fight again. And I get chills saying it. 195 00:10:11,146 --> 00:10:14,946 Speaker 1: But I think about what we're asking from these players 196 00:10:14,986 --> 00:10:19,226 Speaker 1: this week, and we're asking from all these different coaches, 197 00:10:19,306 --> 00:10:22,066 Speaker 1: and we're asking from broadcasters, and we're asking from those 198 00:10:22,826 --> 00:10:25,066 Speaker 1: folks who work in the medical community who will be 199 00:10:25,146 --> 00:10:27,866 Speaker 1: at the game doing what they always do on Sundays. 200 00:10:28,946 --> 00:10:31,826 Speaker 1: Fight on my men, and uh, I've hurt, but I'm 201 00:10:31,826 --> 00:10:34,506 Speaker 1: not slain. I'll lay me down and bleed awhile, and 202 00:10:34,546 --> 00:10:37,266 Speaker 1: I'll fight again. I think of that. Um, we gotta 203 00:10:37,306 --> 00:10:41,946 Speaker 1: get up and we can all have uh, all of 204 00:10:41,946 --> 00:10:45,466 Speaker 1: our emotions in our hearts and our prayers with DeMar Hamlin. 205 00:10:45,546 --> 00:10:47,746 Speaker 1: But Um, the games will be played, and we've got 206 00:10:47,746 --> 00:10:49,546 Speaker 1: to do our best to go there and do the 207 00:10:49,546 --> 00:10:52,066 Speaker 1: best job we can, either playing in it, coaching it, 208 00:10:52,666 --> 00:10:54,946 Speaker 1: or covering it. Our guest today is going to be 209 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,146 Speaker 1: one of the most coveted men to get in an 210 00:10:57,146 --> 00:11:00,746 Speaker 1: interview anywhere. He agreed to do it on Tuesday. He's 211 00:11:00,746 --> 00:11:02,866 Speaker 1: been gracious enough to do it on Thursday, and he 212 00:11:02,906 --> 00:11:06,426 Speaker 1: also knows a thing or two about overcoming not only tragedy, 213 00:11:06,546 --> 00:11:09,106 Speaker 1: but in the face of adversity. Our guest is gonna 214 00:11:09,106 --> 00:11:11,186 Speaker 1: be Sean Payton, and we're gonna be open and honest 215 00:11:11,226 --> 00:11:13,266 Speaker 1: with Sean, and he's going to talk to us about 216 00:11:14,146 --> 00:11:16,346 Speaker 1: what he wants to be in the future, whether it 217 00:11:16,386 --> 00:11:18,826 Speaker 1: be a TV analyst or a coach, and which place 218 00:11:18,826 --> 00:11:20,946 Speaker 1: he might end up with. We have not recorded the 219 00:11:20,946 --> 00:11:23,066 Speaker 1: interview yet, but I'm hopeful that you're going to come 220 00:11:23,066 --> 00:11:25,586 Speaker 1: away from it saying not only is Shawn pat And 221 00:11:25,626 --> 00:11:27,546 Speaker 1: a great coaching candidate, but that Sean Payton is a 222 00:11:27,586 --> 00:11:29,346 Speaker 1: great leader of men, and I think that's a good 223 00:11:30,066 --> 00:11:34,026 Speaker 1: theme for this week leadership. Um, and hopefully you enjoy 224 00:11:34,066 --> 00:11:36,266 Speaker 1: the interview all right, let's bring him in here. Uh. 225 00:11:36,346 --> 00:11:38,586 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning coach, one of the greatest to ever 226 00:11:38,666 --> 00:11:41,426 Speaker 1: do it. He's a current colleague of mine at Fox Sports, 227 00:11:41,546 --> 00:11:43,146 Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear his name a bunch of the 228 00:11:43,186 --> 00:11:46,026 Speaker 1: next few days. Uh. And I've grown to look at 229 00:11:46,066 --> 00:11:48,146 Speaker 1: him as one of my closest friends. I love working 230 00:11:48,186 --> 00:11:50,666 Speaker 1: with this guy, and I'm sad those days might be 231 00:11:50,786 --> 00:11:53,786 Speaker 1: coming to an end soon. Sean Payton, Welcome to the 232 00:11:53,866 --> 00:11:57,746 Speaker 1: season with Peter Schreger. Peter, I appreciate um. First off, 233 00:11:57,786 --> 00:12:01,506 Speaker 1: I appreciate our friendship. You mentioned it. It's funny. Um, 234 00:12:01,506 --> 00:12:04,826 Speaker 1: we get so in tune to our own jobs, and 235 00:12:04,866 --> 00:12:08,346 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Uh, there's a switch for me. 236 00:12:08,546 --> 00:12:12,626 Speaker 1: I meet guys like you, Carissa, Charles and Michael and 237 00:12:12,626 --> 00:12:16,506 Speaker 1: and everyone else there. Um in in not only a 238 00:12:16,546 --> 00:12:19,426 Speaker 1: new career, but really in a new light relative to 239 00:12:19,466 --> 00:12:21,746 Speaker 1: how we interact and get a chance to visit. And 240 00:12:21,826 --> 00:12:26,586 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed it. Uh. It's it's You've helped me immensely. 241 00:12:26,866 --> 00:12:30,146 Speaker 1: And but it's the reason we have good jobs. I 242 00:12:30,186 --> 00:12:32,466 Speaker 1: think is about the people. You know, I was That's 243 00:12:32,466 --> 00:12:34,346 Speaker 1: why my job at the Saints was a good job, 244 00:12:34,346 --> 00:12:38,386 Speaker 1: because it was about the people and ownership there, Mickey Loomis, 245 00:12:38,426 --> 00:12:42,226 Speaker 1: and the job at Fox is good because of that. Yeah, 246 00:12:42,266 --> 00:12:44,266 Speaker 1: I see your face and I and I smile because 247 00:12:44,306 --> 00:12:47,146 Speaker 1: we have a great time together. And yet I also 248 00:12:47,146 --> 00:12:49,106 Speaker 1: see your face and I think of the word leader. 249 00:12:49,346 --> 00:12:52,626 Speaker 1: And I started this whole podcast off doing a monologue 250 00:12:52,706 --> 00:12:55,786 Speaker 1: of sorts about leadership. And my big takeaway was, you know, 251 00:12:55,866 --> 00:12:58,946 Speaker 1: we critique in a in a football world, especially online 252 00:12:58,986 --> 00:13:02,146 Speaker 1: and on TV, like hey, how does how does Zach 253 00:13:02,186 --> 00:13:04,826 Speaker 1: Taylor not kick the field goal? Instead of why is 254 00:13:04,826 --> 00:13:06,506 Speaker 1: he going for it on fourth and one when the 255 00:13:06,546 --> 00:13:09,586 Speaker 1: odds say this? Or how does Sean McDermott not squib 256 00:13:09,666 --> 00:13:11,586 Speaker 1: kick that in the a f C divisional round? And 257 00:13:11,706 --> 00:13:13,586 Speaker 1: you say, well, fire that coach, get rid of that coach. 258 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:17,906 Speaker 1: That coach sucks, And then you see the emotional intelligence 259 00:13:18,106 --> 00:13:21,986 Speaker 1: and the leadership of how both those men immediately sprung 260 00:13:22,066 --> 00:13:26,626 Speaker 1: to action like generals on a field of war. Um, 261 00:13:26,706 --> 00:13:28,666 Speaker 1: and we're able to lead men through some of the 262 00:13:28,746 --> 00:13:31,826 Speaker 1: darkest times. In the last seventy two hours, I look 263 00:13:31,906 --> 00:13:34,306 Speaker 1: to you as a lifetime uh you know, leader of 264 00:13:34,346 --> 00:13:37,426 Speaker 1: men and as a as a coach. What was your 265 00:13:37,466 --> 00:13:40,546 Speaker 1: takeaway and maybe my question to you is when you 266 00:13:40,786 --> 00:13:44,226 Speaker 1: identify a leader, is it? Is it something that we 267 00:13:44,266 --> 00:13:46,386 Speaker 1: may be at home, don't don't don't get to see 268 00:13:46,386 --> 00:13:49,066 Speaker 1: becast of all the stuff that goes into coaching that 269 00:13:49,066 --> 00:13:52,306 Speaker 1: that maybe isn't exactly in the field of play for 270 00:13:52,346 --> 00:13:57,786 Speaker 1: those three hours. Well, I think we get glimpses of it, um, surely, 271 00:13:57,826 --> 00:14:02,226 Speaker 1: But but I feel like they exist in our children's schools, 272 00:14:02,746 --> 00:14:07,186 Speaker 1: great leaders. Um. We we just don't maybe equate them 273 00:14:07,226 --> 00:14:12,626 Speaker 1: in that light. I think, having two children myself, UM, 274 00:14:12,666 --> 00:14:16,426 Speaker 1: if during the course of their lifetime they're blessed with 275 00:14:17,626 --> 00:14:20,506 Speaker 1: two or three different individuals, might be a counselor might 276 00:14:20,546 --> 00:14:23,426 Speaker 1: be a teacher when they were in grade school, might 277 00:14:23,466 --> 00:14:30,866 Speaker 1: be a coach, um, maybe uh, an art professor, UM. 278 00:14:31,026 --> 00:14:35,746 Speaker 1: Somebody that loves them as much as we their parents 279 00:14:35,826 --> 00:14:39,306 Speaker 1: do and and impacts their lives in such a way 280 00:14:39,346 --> 00:14:41,746 Speaker 1: that that's the greatest gift we can get his parents 281 00:14:41,826 --> 00:14:45,146 Speaker 1: and so UM. I think what we saw the other 282 00:14:45,306 --> 00:14:52,706 Speaker 1: night were two individuals along with the teammates, that cared 283 00:14:52,746 --> 00:14:57,906 Speaker 1: for an individual, uh, just as we would their parents. 284 00:14:58,146 --> 00:15:02,506 Speaker 1: And and I've known Sean Um for a long time. 285 00:15:02,546 --> 00:15:06,546 Speaker 1: You know, he was started with the Eagles U and 286 00:15:06,746 --> 00:15:10,946 Speaker 1: was there cutting his teeth under the late Jim Johnson 287 00:15:11,786 --> 00:15:15,306 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid and then Zack I haven't worked with, 288 00:15:15,786 --> 00:15:17,866 Speaker 1: but I've had a chance to visit with or talk with. 289 00:15:17,986 --> 00:15:23,266 Speaker 1: But to watch their leadership the other evening was was 290 00:15:23,386 --> 00:15:27,306 Speaker 1: really cool. And I was watching it like you were live. Um. 291 00:15:28,506 --> 00:15:31,626 Speaker 1: You know you saw the concern on their faces, just 292 00:15:31,666 --> 00:15:37,306 Speaker 1: like you did with the players, and you know that 293 00:15:37,306 --> 00:15:41,586 Speaker 1: that on the ground leadership relative to understanding, this is 294 00:15:41,746 --> 00:15:46,186 Speaker 1: what's happening to my team right now, this is what 295 00:15:46,306 --> 00:15:50,586 Speaker 1: I think is best. And then eventually the league, you know, 296 00:15:50,786 --> 00:15:53,986 Speaker 1: having a chance to visit with those coaches and kind 297 00:15:54,026 --> 00:15:57,706 Speaker 1: of acquiesced and say, hey, we we trust your opinions. Um. 298 00:15:58,946 --> 00:16:02,226 Speaker 1: I thought that was There were a lot of things 299 00:16:03,346 --> 00:16:07,706 Speaker 1: that I don't want to use the word word encouraging, 300 00:16:07,826 --> 00:16:10,266 Speaker 1: but man, we all went to bed with prayer, but 301 00:16:10,306 --> 00:16:14,466 Speaker 1: we also went to bed with like, uh that that 302 00:16:14,546 --> 00:16:16,866 Speaker 1: moment we stopped for a second and it was like 303 00:16:16,946 --> 00:16:21,546 Speaker 1: recalibrated and and now you see the whole country. Um. 304 00:16:21,746 --> 00:16:23,426 Speaker 1: Each morning, I get up in the morning and I 305 00:16:23,506 --> 00:16:26,626 Speaker 1: quickly go to the news to see if there's an update, 306 00:16:27,146 --> 00:16:31,306 Speaker 1: and I just keep thinking to myself, I would love 307 00:16:31,386 --> 00:16:34,666 Speaker 1: to be a fly on the wall when his family 308 00:16:34,746 --> 00:16:38,466 Speaker 1: is explaining to him the eight million dollar balance in 309 00:16:38,626 --> 00:16:42,106 Speaker 1: his toys for charity that when the last he recall, 310 00:16:42,666 --> 00:16:45,586 Speaker 1: you know, he was handling like a part of a neighborhood, 311 00:16:46,026 --> 00:16:50,386 Speaker 1: Like you know, he's gonna need yeah, and so he's 312 00:16:50,386 --> 00:16:53,706 Speaker 1: gonna need um a lot of assistance. And I'm sure 313 00:16:53,786 --> 00:17:00,226 Speaker 1: he'll find that to distribute that much in toys. But um, yeah, 314 00:17:00,466 --> 00:17:03,106 Speaker 1: I think it gave us all a chance to quickly 315 00:17:03,146 --> 00:17:08,586 Speaker 1: recalibrate to your point and recognize, um, these individuals beyond 316 00:17:09,146 --> 00:17:13,426 Speaker 1: their football helmets, these coaches, beyond their decisions with clipboards 317 00:17:13,466 --> 00:17:15,506 Speaker 1: and and all of the other things we get so 318 00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:18,866 Speaker 1: now you just kind of you get in the habit 319 00:17:18,906 --> 00:17:22,626 Speaker 1: and a routine. And this was one of those moments 320 00:17:22,666 --> 00:17:25,106 Speaker 1: where I think that there were parts of it that 321 00:17:25,186 --> 00:17:28,146 Speaker 1: made you proud to be a part of what we 322 00:17:28,266 --> 00:17:31,466 Speaker 1: do and to see the human response to this, and 323 00:17:31,466 --> 00:17:35,506 Speaker 1: and we continue to pray for for his recovery. We do. Um, 324 00:17:35,826 --> 00:17:37,946 Speaker 1: when you were the coach of the Saints, the city, 325 00:17:38,386 --> 00:17:41,666 Speaker 1: the organization, I mean, you're talking coming off a Katrina, 326 00:17:41,746 --> 00:17:45,026 Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, I don't want to go 327 00:17:45,066 --> 00:17:47,146 Speaker 1: down the throat, but like you know, Will Smith was 328 00:17:47,186 --> 00:17:50,226 Speaker 1: one of your greatest players tragically murdered, and like you've 329 00:17:50,266 --> 00:17:53,186 Speaker 1: got to talk to the team the next day. Is 330 00:17:53,226 --> 00:17:55,186 Speaker 1: that the stuff that you look back on and say, well, 331 00:17:55,186 --> 00:17:57,226 Speaker 1: that's what leadership is? Or is it Hey, I'm gonna 332 00:17:57,226 --> 00:17:59,546 Speaker 1: call it on side kick on Super Bowl and we're 333 00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:01,466 Speaker 1: going to shock the world. I think it's all of 334 00:18:01,506 --> 00:18:05,026 Speaker 1: the above. Um. You mentioned that the tragic death of 335 00:18:05,026 --> 00:18:10,586 Speaker 1: Will Smith. Um. I also I can recall the day 336 00:18:10,666 --> 00:18:14,506 Speaker 1: we found out Steve Gleeson was diagnosed with als and 337 00:18:14,546 --> 00:18:18,946 Speaker 1: we were flying to Seattle, we were playing in the 338 00:18:18,986 --> 00:18:21,866 Speaker 1: wild card round of the two thousand ten playoffs, and 339 00:18:22,026 --> 00:18:27,066 Speaker 1: then talking you know, basically talking to our team about 340 00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:30,026 Speaker 1: that in the team meeting the night before. And um, 341 00:18:31,346 --> 00:18:35,946 Speaker 1: I think I think we we we know that there's 342 00:18:35,946 --> 00:18:39,466 Speaker 1: a lot of times spent in those football buildings, just 343 00:18:39,506 --> 00:18:41,186 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of time spent. I mean every 344 00:18:41,186 --> 00:18:43,146 Speaker 1: time I turned the TV on you guys a good 345 00:18:43,146 --> 00:18:46,786 Speaker 1: morning football. That's there's a lot of hours. And so 346 00:18:46,906 --> 00:18:50,346 Speaker 1: you become very close to your peers and your co workers, 347 00:18:50,746 --> 00:18:54,066 Speaker 1: and I think that same thing exists, and so they 348 00:18:54,106 --> 00:18:58,346 Speaker 1: are in some ways of a family. And I've heard 349 00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:02,066 Speaker 1: the term brotherhood and all of those other terms. Um, 350 00:19:02,106 --> 00:19:07,826 Speaker 1: and it's it's because of common goals, it's oftentimes because 351 00:19:07,906 --> 00:19:10,986 Speaker 1: the amount of time we're all together. But there's a 352 00:19:11,026 --> 00:19:15,146 Speaker 1: love and caring for one another, and so um inevitably, 353 00:19:15,306 --> 00:19:20,146 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with large numbers of teams, there you know, 354 00:19:20,226 --> 00:19:23,826 Speaker 1: on any given week, there's there's somebody that's aching, or 355 00:19:23,946 --> 00:19:27,426 Speaker 1: someone that's not feeling good. There's someone who's got personal 356 00:19:27,426 --> 00:19:30,666 Speaker 1: problems that could be a coach and assistant coach, a player. 357 00:19:31,706 --> 00:19:35,866 Speaker 1: When you take that bigger group of people, Um, that 358 00:19:35,946 --> 00:19:39,106 Speaker 1: comes up pretty regularly. And and so how do you 359 00:19:39,146 --> 00:19:42,546 Speaker 1: deal with that? And how do you how do you listen? 360 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:45,306 Speaker 1: You know sometimes that's a really good trait that we 361 00:19:45,306 --> 00:19:49,346 Speaker 1: we don't pay enough attention to. And uh, and then 362 00:19:49,386 --> 00:19:53,546 Speaker 1: how do you react and act on that? And so um, 363 00:19:53,746 --> 00:19:56,586 Speaker 1: certainly for me is you know, is I'm watching this 364 00:19:56,626 --> 00:19:58,586 Speaker 1: week and watching the game the other night. You know, 365 00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:04,146 Speaker 1: I think our biggest fear, and I do recall thinking 366 00:20:04,186 --> 00:20:07,866 Speaker 1: of this, Our biggest fear is a teacher, coaches man 367 00:20:07,906 --> 00:20:10,506 Speaker 1: having something terribly wrong happened to one of your players 368 00:20:10,506 --> 00:20:15,266 Speaker 1: while you're on watch, you know. And it's been a while, uh, 369 00:20:15,306 --> 00:20:18,746 Speaker 1: but we we had a string of adversity. And I 370 00:20:18,786 --> 00:20:21,826 Speaker 1: say that there was a college death and a professional 371 00:20:21,866 --> 00:20:25,626 Speaker 1: player's death in training camp because of the heat and 372 00:20:25,626 --> 00:20:29,266 Speaker 1: and UM, so you're always as as a teacher, we're 373 00:20:29,346 --> 00:20:32,826 Speaker 1: taught to secure the field, you know, make it a 374 00:20:32,826 --> 00:20:37,346 Speaker 1: safe environment. Um, you know, equipment outside the parameters of 375 00:20:37,386 --> 00:20:41,666 Speaker 1: the sidelines, all these little things that you don't want 376 00:20:41,706 --> 00:20:45,266 Speaker 1: a player to get injured because we we didn't have 377 00:20:45,346 --> 00:20:48,706 Speaker 1: the field set up correctly or our drills set up correctly. 378 00:20:49,306 --> 00:20:52,106 Speaker 1: And that same thing applies in training camp with the heat. 379 00:20:52,666 --> 00:21:00,906 Speaker 1: Um it applies. Um it's seven and there your responsibility 380 00:21:00,946 --> 00:21:05,586 Speaker 1: and that's a pretty powerful thing. And UM, I thought 381 00:21:05,986 --> 00:21:09,146 Speaker 1: both act and Seawan were unbelievable the other night. I 382 00:21:09,146 --> 00:21:11,546 Speaker 1: remember COVID you were the first one to say, you know, 383 00:21:11,586 --> 00:21:13,066 Speaker 1: it's screw it. We're putting our whole team in a 384 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:15,066 Speaker 1: hotel like you guys are gonna say at the Ritz 385 00:21:15,146 --> 00:21:18,986 Speaker 1: you're gonna be or was it just whatever it was? Well, 386 00:21:19,426 --> 00:21:22,706 Speaker 1: it's um there's some things that you look at they 387 00:21:22,746 --> 00:21:24,786 Speaker 1: seem like, oh, that's a big change to do that, 388 00:21:24,826 --> 00:21:27,826 Speaker 1: and it's yet it's very small if it keeps everyone safe. 389 00:21:28,466 --> 00:21:30,706 Speaker 1: Your name was the biggest name last weekend. There were 390 00:21:30,746 --> 00:21:33,306 Speaker 1: reports about teams being interested in you. We know Denver 391 00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:37,146 Speaker 1: fired fired their coach Nathaniel Hackett a couple of weeks ago, 392 00:21:37,186 --> 00:21:39,626 Speaker 1: There's going to be a vacancy likely in Carolinea all 393 00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:43,186 Speaker 1: these things. Let's set the stage though, what is your 394 00:21:43,226 --> 00:21:46,186 Speaker 1: current contracts status? Because I think a lot of people 395 00:21:46,226 --> 00:21:48,106 Speaker 1: are confused, are like, well, then isn't he with the 396 00:21:48,146 --> 00:21:50,266 Speaker 1: Saints and how does that work? Can you just on 397 00:21:50,346 --> 00:21:53,066 Speaker 1: the record explain to us what your status is? And 398 00:21:53,066 --> 00:21:56,666 Speaker 1: then also what would have to happen if if a 399 00:21:56,746 --> 00:21:58,746 Speaker 1: team were to want to inquire yourself, cause I don't 400 00:21:59,026 --> 00:22:01,266 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly if and I certainly don't think 401 00:22:01,346 --> 00:22:04,506 Speaker 1: the listeners know, Like well, can they even talk to him? 402 00:22:04,546 --> 00:22:07,146 Speaker 1: Like just go through it for us? Yeah? Um, well 403 00:22:07,186 --> 00:22:10,426 Speaker 1: that's a good question because look, it doesn't happen often. 404 00:22:10,706 --> 00:22:14,106 Speaker 1: And right now, and I say this, I'm happily employed 405 00:22:14,146 --> 00:22:17,146 Speaker 1: at Fox with a good contract and a good job 406 00:22:17,506 --> 00:22:22,186 Speaker 1: with people like yourself. Relative to the NFL, my contract 407 00:22:22,266 --> 00:22:27,626 Speaker 1: that I have with the Saints essentially runs through twenty 408 00:22:27,706 --> 00:22:31,146 Speaker 1: three and twenty four, so two more seasons, so something 409 00:22:31,146 --> 00:22:34,666 Speaker 1: more to happen, Peter, and I say this, I think 410 00:22:34,706 --> 00:22:38,066 Speaker 1: there's this assumption like all these deals are getting done 411 00:22:38,146 --> 00:22:41,426 Speaker 1: right now. And and honestly, like like we said at 412 00:22:41,426 --> 00:22:43,706 Speaker 1: the beginning, I get up this morning, I'm having a 413 00:22:43,786 --> 00:22:48,746 Speaker 1: Noah's Bagelsiago cheese with coffee. Um, I'm gonna walk the 414 00:22:48,826 --> 00:22:53,746 Speaker 1: dogs and uh my wife and mother in law. We'll 415 00:22:53,786 --> 00:22:57,666 Speaker 1: probably do something this afternoon. We're still weeks away from 416 00:22:57,666 --> 00:23:01,106 Speaker 1: the period where maybe a week away or two weeks 417 00:23:01,106 --> 00:23:04,986 Speaker 1: away from the period where other teams, UM would put 418 00:23:04,986 --> 00:23:07,386 Speaker 1: it in a request in that would simply, you're not 419 00:23:07,426 --> 00:23:09,506 Speaker 1: on the phone with the agent. Sell me here, what's 420 00:23:09,506 --> 00:23:12,466 Speaker 1: going on. That's not the that's not the vibe right now. 421 00:23:12,466 --> 00:23:15,706 Speaker 1: It's not Manhattan Beach. It's a little cold here. Um, 422 00:23:15,826 --> 00:23:18,106 Speaker 1: we're at the south end of that like that that 423 00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,706 Speaker 1: like winter swall or whatever that is that what's it 424 00:23:20,746 --> 00:23:24,746 Speaker 1: called the bomb cyclone? Um that San Francisco together. But 425 00:23:24,786 --> 00:23:26,466 Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of rain here and I'm sure 426 00:23:26,506 --> 00:23:29,586 Speaker 1: this state needs it. So, because of those two years 427 00:23:29,586 --> 00:23:33,146 Speaker 1: existing on a contract with the Saints, if in fact 428 00:23:33,226 --> 00:23:37,586 Speaker 1: there was interest by another team, the first step would 429 00:23:37,586 --> 00:23:41,306 Speaker 1: be permission to to speak with me, and that would 430 00:23:41,386 --> 00:23:44,066 Speaker 1: be the other team, you know, talking to Mickey Loomis. 431 00:23:44,146 --> 00:23:48,226 Speaker 1: Ownership of the Saints asking for permission to to visit. 432 00:23:48,866 --> 00:23:51,266 Speaker 1: Then if it got to a point where it was 433 00:23:51,826 --> 00:23:57,946 Speaker 1: serious and there was interest, I'm sure that compensation then 434 00:23:58,026 --> 00:24:01,066 Speaker 1: would would take place, and very similar to a player trade. 435 00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:05,106 Speaker 1: So essentially, what I don't know is what that compensation 436 00:24:05,146 --> 00:24:07,946 Speaker 1: would be, because that would be Mickey in the Saints, 437 00:24:08,386 --> 00:24:12,426 Speaker 1: in the club that had that interest. So that's essentially 438 00:24:13,066 --> 00:24:17,786 Speaker 1: in a nutshell. And two seasons, I'm under contract with 439 00:24:17,826 --> 00:24:20,346 Speaker 1: New Orleans and I'm also working at Fox, and there 440 00:24:20,426 --> 00:24:24,146 Speaker 1: isn't there's there's nothing pressing right now is certainly you 441 00:24:24,186 --> 00:24:26,426 Speaker 1: think about some of the jobs that have opened. And 442 00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:29,026 Speaker 1: yet I kind of like the job I had with 443 00:24:29,066 --> 00:24:32,226 Speaker 1: you guys, And you know that that's real because you 444 00:24:32,266 --> 00:24:36,946 Speaker 1: see me on Yeah, he hasn't left the building yet, 445 00:24:36,986 --> 00:24:38,906 Speaker 1: you know, and and and so I just like going 446 00:24:38,946 --> 00:24:41,546 Speaker 1: over there. There is a little bit of that void, 447 00:24:41,866 --> 00:24:46,346 Speaker 1: you know, when you leave the coaching realm, which is 448 00:24:46,746 --> 00:24:50,026 Speaker 1: obviously seven days a week, a lot of time and hours, 449 00:24:50,386 --> 00:24:53,546 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's quiet in and 450 00:24:53,706 --> 00:24:55,586 Speaker 1: you go to work once a week and it's on 451 00:24:55,626 --> 00:25:00,226 Speaker 1: Sunday only, Um, my clothes like are laid out, my socks, 452 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:03,586 Speaker 1: my you know what I'm what I'm wearing is laid 453 00:25:03,586 --> 00:25:06,786 Speaker 1: out Saturday night, go to bed early, and you know 454 00:25:06,826 --> 00:25:11,106 Speaker 1: we're in there, what five in the morning on on Sundays. Uh, 455 00:25:11,186 --> 00:25:14,066 Speaker 1: So that is uh, that's a huge day for me, 456 00:25:14,066 --> 00:25:17,026 Speaker 1: meaning it's a day to be around football and be 457 00:25:17,106 --> 00:25:20,586 Speaker 1: around uh people that are that are talking football, that 458 00:25:20,626 --> 00:25:25,426 Speaker 1: are around the people like you're on field covering games. Uh. 459 00:25:25,506 --> 00:25:28,226 Speaker 1: Because it's it's quite a change when you go from 460 00:25:28,226 --> 00:25:30,466 Speaker 1: one extreme to the other. And so Sunday is that 461 00:25:30,546 --> 00:25:34,546 Speaker 1: like smorgas for all Right, you're there and and time 462 00:25:34,586 --> 00:25:35,906 Speaker 1: to go home, and you're like, I don't want to go. 463 00:25:37,226 --> 00:25:39,666 Speaker 1: I love I missed this. Yeah. You know. One of 464 00:25:39,666 --> 00:25:41,426 Speaker 1: the things I remember, John Lynch and I were on 465 00:25:41,466 --> 00:25:43,626 Speaker 1: the same crew for years. I was a sideline reporter. 466 00:25:43,706 --> 00:25:47,386 Speaker 1: He was a broadcaster and you know, behind closed doors, 467 00:25:47,426 --> 00:25:50,266 Speaker 1: he had indicated like you know, a desire to someday 468 00:25:50,346 --> 00:25:52,906 Speaker 1: get back in the NFL, and I was on the crew. 469 00:25:53,826 --> 00:25:56,986 Speaker 1: The same weekend he actually spoke with Atlanta, spoke with 470 00:25:57,026 --> 00:26:00,346 Speaker 1: San Francisco about the Atlanta I'm sorry about the GM job. 471 00:26:00,386 --> 00:26:02,706 Speaker 1: While we were in Atlanta doing a Seattle Atlanta job. 472 00:26:02,746 --> 00:26:04,226 Speaker 1: I didn't even know about it. He didn't tell me 473 00:26:04,266 --> 00:26:06,906 Speaker 1: about it, and then I found out later one of 474 00:26:06,946 --> 00:26:09,146 Speaker 1: the things John said to me was I missed the scoreboard. 475 00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:11,386 Speaker 1: You know, I call all these games, but I missed 476 00:26:11,426 --> 00:26:14,026 Speaker 1: the scoreboard, and I had this burning desire. Do you 477 00:26:14,066 --> 00:26:16,026 Speaker 1: miss the scoreboard? I know it's just been one year, 478 00:26:16,066 --> 00:26:17,866 Speaker 1: but do you miss at the end of that Sunday 479 00:26:17,866 --> 00:26:19,586 Speaker 1: that there's no winning loss at the end. It's kind 480 00:26:19,626 --> 00:26:21,546 Speaker 1: of like Shawnny did a good job. You made a 481 00:26:21,586 --> 00:26:23,986 Speaker 1: great point about Teddy Bridgewater, right, go home. Yeah, I 482 00:26:24,026 --> 00:26:26,986 Speaker 1: think I totally get that, because you can have a 483 00:26:27,026 --> 00:26:29,666 Speaker 1: real good day on Sunday with some of your insighter 484 00:26:29,746 --> 00:26:34,186 Speaker 1: predictions or your narratives. Maybe some days not so so good, 485 00:26:34,226 --> 00:26:37,426 Speaker 1: but you do drive home and and and you know 486 00:26:37,506 --> 00:26:39,386 Speaker 1: you probably get home in time or you fly home 487 00:26:39,386 --> 00:26:43,226 Speaker 1: in time to watch a little Sunday night football. Uh man, 488 00:26:43,866 --> 00:26:47,386 Speaker 1: It's it's hard to it's hard to replace that drug 489 00:26:47,426 --> 00:26:50,666 Speaker 1: of winning though, and that, you know, the the amount 490 00:26:50,666 --> 00:26:54,066 Speaker 1: of work that goes in to a game plan with 491 00:26:54,146 --> 00:26:58,546 Speaker 1: your players and coaches and as an organization, everyone is 492 00:26:58,586 --> 00:27:01,626 Speaker 1: working their tails off. And then to enjoy that in 493 00:27:01,666 --> 00:27:05,226 Speaker 1: a locker room celebration. And you know, we we tried 494 00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:09,346 Speaker 1: to become the best at what we did, uh winning, 495 00:27:09,386 --> 00:27:11,946 Speaker 1: and then we tried to celebrate better than anyone as well, 496 00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:14,746 Speaker 1: like you know, with the fancy speaker system, and and 497 00:27:15,186 --> 00:27:19,786 Speaker 1: but it's, uh, it's it's it's something. And so I 498 00:27:20,066 --> 00:27:23,386 Speaker 1: would describe if I was painting the perfect analogy relative 499 00:27:23,466 --> 00:27:31,506 Speaker 1: to me um coaching. Again, It's like there's this NASCAR 500 00:27:31,706 --> 00:27:35,186 Speaker 1: race track about two blocks away from where I'm staying 501 00:27:35,186 --> 00:27:37,266 Speaker 1: now with the lights on, and I can hear the 502 00:27:37,306 --> 00:27:40,506 Speaker 1: cars running around the track. I can smell the gasoline 503 00:27:41,066 --> 00:27:43,346 Speaker 1: and and I can even hear the p A announcer. 504 00:27:43,826 --> 00:27:45,866 Speaker 1: And so like today, I'll get out and I'll walk 505 00:27:45,906 --> 00:27:48,346 Speaker 1: the dogs, and I'll look over there and I think 506 00:27:48,426 --> 00:27:50,146 Speaker 1: there's you just know at some point you're going to 507 00:27:50,226 --> 00:27:52,146 Speaker 1: go back to that track, but you don't know when 508 00:27:52,826 --> 00:27:54,586 Speaker 1: you got I mean, you're great. I love the way 509 00:27:54,586 --> 00:27:57,466 Speaker 1: of words you have, and I look at these jobs. 510 00:27:57,466 --> 00:27:59,546 Speaker 1: There are going to be several I would ask you, 511 00:27:59,586 --> 00:28:01,626 Speaker 1: and you tell me when I'm asking too many questions, 512 00:28:01,626 --> 00:28:03,386 Speaker 1: and you could say, Schregor, shut up. We're not trying 513 00:28:03,426 --> 00:28:07,706 Speaker 1: to make news having a conversation. What do you value 514 00:28:07,746 --> 00:28:10,106 Speaker 1: most when you're looking at these jobs? Is it the quarterback? 515 00:28:10,186 --> 00:28:11,906 Speaker 1: Is it the city? Is it the owner. Is it 516 00:28:12,026 --> 00:28:14,946 Speaker 1: that when you're putting down your pros and cons? What 517 00:28:14,946 --> 00:28:16,386 Speaker 1: what is what is on that list? It's what we 518 00:28:16,506 --> 00:28:20,346 Speaker 1: just talked about relative to Zack and Seawan and then 519 00:28:20,426 --> 00:28:22,986 Speaker 1: their teams. Uh, and then we talked about it with 520 00:28:23,026 --> 00:28:26,266 Speaker 1: our job. And I mean this this sounds cliche, but 521 00:28:26,306 --> 00:28:31,426 Speaker 1: it's people. UM. I'll give you an example. When I 522 00:28:31,466 --> 00:28:34,906 Speaker 1: interviewed with the Saints, I had already interviewed in Green 523 00:28:34,946 --> 00:28:38,626 Speaker 1: Bay and had a really good interview there. The late 524 00:28:38,666 --> 00:28:42,346 Speaker 1: Ted Thompson was the general manager at the time. Um, 525 00:28:43,066 --> 00:28:46,226 Speaker 1: they're there a ton of good folks in that building. 526 00:28:46,386 --> 00:28:50,226 Speaker 1: And I'm from Chicago, so obviously that's fairly close to home. 527 00:28:50,306 --> 00:28:55,506 Speaker 1: And they're the story tradition. UM. I taking that interview 528 00:28:55,786 --> 00:28:59,306 Speaker 1: and was back and now I was interviewing at the Saints, 529 00:28:59,346 --> 00:29:01,906 Speaker 1: waiting to hear from the packers. Now New Orleans was 530 00:29:01,946 --> 00:29:06,266 Speaker 1: post Katrina, and I can't explain flying in there for 531 00:29:06,626 --> 00:29:10,546 Speaker 1: off when when Holmes have trouble after a huge hurricane, 532 00:29:10,586 --> 00:29:12,666 Speaker 1: there's a lot of blue tarps on all the roofs. 533 00:29:12,706 --> 00:29:16,666 Speaker 1: So when you landed, you saw thousands of blue roofs 534 00:29:16,706 --> 00:29:20,626 Speaker 1: that were just temporarily uh, covering up the holes in 535 00:29:20,666 --> 00:29:24,746 Speaker 1: the roofs, the airport was empty. Mickey Loomis picks me up. 536 00:29:24,786 --> 00:29:27,666 Speaker 1: I kind of like this guy, Mickey Loomis, Um, we're 537 00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:31,146 Speaker 1: gonna have dinner that night. I like him even more. Uh. 538 00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:35,546 Speaker 1: And that evening I find out that I didn't get 539 00:29:35,546 --> 00:29:37,746 Speaker 1: the packers job. You know. I remember just getting a 540 00:29:37,826 --> 00:29:40,786 Speaker 1: voicemail and like ripping my phone into the pillow and 541 00:29:40,826 --> 00:29:45,346 Speaker 1: just be like ah and uh. And then the focus 542 00:29:45,346 --> 00:29:50,266 Speaker 1: shifted a little bit more towards New Orleans. And despite 543 00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:53,746 Speaker 1: all the things that we could have drawn from that 544 00:29:53,906 --> 00:29:57,466 Speaker 1: visit which were negative, there were so many the schools 545 00:29:57,986 --> 00:30:01,346 Speaker 1: weren't open yet, hospitals. I think as a country, and 546 00:30:01,386 --> 00:30:03,106 Speaker 1: I was in Dallas at the time, but I don't 547 00:30:03,106 --> 00:30:06,186 Speaker 1: know about you, but as a country, I don't know that. 548 00:30:06,186 --> 00:30:08,826 Speaker 1: The I think the concern was, hey, are we going 549 00:30:08,906 --> 00:30:11,026 Speaker 1: to have New Orleans again? Like in other words, it 550 00:30:11,066 --> 00:30:14,786 Speaker 1: didn't just go away, did it? With that storm? And 551 00:30:15,226 --> 00:30:17,386 Speaker 1: so football was kind of like way down the list 552 00:30:17,466 --> 00:30:23,186 Speaker 1: on priorities as far as recovery. But hindsight and I 553 00:30:23,226 --> 00:30:28,226 Speaker 1: get back to the topic of people, um ownership. Mickey Loomis, 554 00:30:28,266 --> 00:30:32,346 Speaker 1: Dennis last to the club president. All these people were 555 00:30:32,386 --> 00:30:35,786 Speaker 1: in place that were a part of what we were 556 00:30:35,786 --> 00:30:40,106 Speaker 1: going to build. And so I think finding that right triangle, 557 00:30:40,146 --> 00:30:44,786 Speaker 1: if you will, of ownership, front office employees, we'll we'll 558 00:30:44,786 --> 00:30:47,826 Speaker 1: get the players. You know, I don't say that lightly, 559 00:30:47,986 --> 00:30:50,706 Speaker 1: but I think we'll figure out who the quarterback is 560 00:30:50,706 --> 00:30:55,226 Speaker 1: going to be and those things we can change easy. 561 00:30:55,506 --> 00:30:59,066 Speaker 1: Uh may take a minute, but yeah, I think that's important. 562 00:30:59,106 --> 00:31:01,826 Speaker 1: And I also think the fan base is important because 563 00:31:01,866 --> 00:31:03,786 Speaker 1: it tells you a little bit of how serious. Like, 564 00:31:03,826 --> 00:31:06,346 Speaker 1: you know, I was spoiled in New Orleans. You know 565 00:31:06,426 --> 00:31:08,826 Speaker 1: there's a waiting list of thirty thousand people for season 566 00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:11,826 Speaker 1: tickets there, and so you knew when you played there 567 00:31:11,986 --> 00:31:14,186 Speaker 1: it was a tough place to play. That equates to 568 00:31:15,626 --> 00:31:18,186 Speaker 1: that equates to something over a period of time, certain 569 00:31:18,226 --> 00:31:21,466 Speaker 1: amount of winds. And so you go into Seattle, you 570 00:31:21,506 --> 00:31:24,786 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a tough place. Kansas City, Minnesota. 571 00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:28,706 Speaker 1: These these are passionate fan bases, Green Bay, Pittsburgh. You know, 572 00:31:28,946 --> 00:31:34,546 Speaker 1: I'm only hitting a few, but it's it's enjoyable to 573 00:31:34,586 --> 00:31:37,106 Speaker 1: go to work there. Maybe I think it would be 574 00:31:37,106 --> 00:31:39,466 Speaker 1: more challenging when you see a lot of people dressed 575 00:31:39,506 --> 00:31:42,826 Speaker 1: up in empty seats. The quarterback position is interesting, though, 576 00:31:42,826 --> 00:31:45,466 Speaker 1: because you had Breeze for all those years, but we didn't. 577 00:31:45,466 --> 00:31:47,626 Speaker 1: And I was texting you yesterday we didn't when we 578 00:31:47,706 --> 00:31:51,306 Speaker 1: got this, well, we got there, Breeds a free agent. 579 00:31:51,386 --> 00:31:53,746 Speaker 1: He to tell the story of the visit. By the way, 580 00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:56,146 Speaker 1: the drive you took with Breeze through the ninth ward, 581 00:31:56,186 --> 00:31:58,866 Speaker 1: I love. So when we get there, we have all 582 00:31:58,906 --> 00:32:00,506 Speaker 1: we we know is we have the second pick of 583 00:32:00,546 --> 00:32:02,906 Speaker 1: the draft, so we know that we're more than likely 584 00:32:02,946 --> 00:32:06,226 Speaker 1: looking at a quarterback with that pick. And man, we're 585 00:32:06,506 --> 00:32:12,946 Speaker 1: ending a lot of time on liner Cutler. Cutler, Yeah, yeah, 586 00:32:12,986 --> 00:32:15,626 Speaker 1: those are the Those are the three projected first round, 587 00:32:15,746 --> 00:32:20,146 Speaker 1: top of the first round players. Um. And we were 588 00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:24,066 Speaker 1: at the combine the day the offensive linemen were working out. 589 00:32:24,106 --> 00:32:25,906 Speaker 1: The reason I know that is that's the only day 590 00:32:25,946 --> 00:32:28,026 Speaker 1: I sit in the end zone at the combine the 591 00:32:28,066 --> 00:32:32,506 Speaker 1: old Indianapolis Stadium, all right, And so I was sitting 592 00:32:32,506 --> 00:32:35,186 Speaker 1: in that end zone section and we found out Drew 593 00:32:35,226 --> 00:32:38,506 Speaker 1: had been released by the Chargers. Of course, for people 594 00:32:38,506 --> 00:32:41,466 Speaker 1: who didn't know that, in the last game of the season, 595 00:32:41,666 --> 00:32:43,946 Speaker 1: the last game of the season, last he was playing, 596 00:32:44,626 --> 00:32:49,786 Speaker 1: he tore he fully tore his throwing shoulder. UM. And 597 00:32:50,266 --> 00:32:53,666 Speaker 1: it was an injury that really no other player in 598 00:32:53,706 --> 00:32:57,866 Speaker 1: our league had ever had before fully torn rotator cuff 599 00:32:57,946 --> 00:33:01,186 Speaker 1: or shoulder, and so there was no precedent. There was 600 00:33:01,226 --> 00:33:03,986 Speaker 1: no like this has been done. This is what the 601 00:33:04,026 --> 00:33:07,146 Speaker 1: rehab it was. It was a significant dree and it 602 00:33:07,226 --> 00:33:11,506 Speaker 1: was going to cost him a lot of time. Um. 603 00:33:11,546 --> 00:33:14,306 Speaker 1: But we got that news, we began like doing our 604 00:33:14,546 --> 00:33:18,266 Speaker 1: due diligence, and long story short, he's rehabbing. We're going 605 00:33:18,346 --> 00:33:21,106 Speaker 1: to bring him in for a visit. The Dolphins are 606 00:33:21,146 --> 00:33:24,586 Speaker 1: going to do the same. Um, and we're kind of 607 00:33:24,866 --> 00:33:26,986 Speaker 1: we haven't hit the draft yet, you know, we we 608 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,266 Speaker 1: the draft is going to be at the end of April. 609 00:33:29,306 --> 00:33:34,066 Speaker 1: So we're between I'm gonna say, we're in March, and 610 00:33:34,146 --> 00:33:37,546 Speaker 1: the competition for Drew. It's two teams, it's Miami and 611 00:33:37,746 --> 00:33:44,066 Speaker 1: and coach Saban ourselves and Drew happened to be rehabbing 612 00:33:44,906 --> 00:33:51,146 Speaker 1: in Birmingham where uh doctor m Andrews. Dr Andrews. Yeah, 613 00:33:51,226 --> 00:33:54,066 Speaker 1: he's got a couple of locations, right, and so Andrews 614 00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:58,146 Speaker 1: did the surgery. We bring Drew in. We've got this now. 615 00:33:58,266 --> 00:34:00,946 Speaker 1: We were when I say we were at that time 616 00:34:01,986 --> 00:34:06,186 Speaker 1: a complete business startup, Like there was like eight coaches 617 00:34:06,226 --> 00:34:08,986 Speaker 1: at the time on our staff. Um, we were in 618 00:34:09,066 --> 00:34:12,946 Speaker 1: temporary offices. Um, we all agreed that we weren't going 619 00:34:12,986 --> 00:34:14,866 Speaker 1: to use the K word anymore. So no one could 620 00:34:14,866 --> 00:34:18,306 Speaker 1: sake a train anymore. It couldn't be used, right, And 621 00:34:18,346 --> 00:34:21,146 Speaker 1: then it was like we were celebrating each a little 622 00:34:21,186 --> 00:34:24,106 Speaker 1: marginal victory. We signed Scott Pagitta as a free agent. 623 00:34:24,146 --> 00:34:27,546 Speaker 1: We were like food, he chose us, he shows us, 624 00:34:27,586 --> 00:34:29,386 Speaker 1: and like, where else did he have to choose? We're like, 625 00:34:29,586 --> 00:34:35,466 Speaker 1: that was us, and he us he's coming all right, 626 00:34:35,586 --> 00:34:39,986 Speaker 1: and uh. But it was really the beginning of the 627 00:34:40,026 --> 00:34:42,786 Speaker 1: start of all of this. And so here comes Drew 628 00:34:42,866 --> 00:34:47,426 Speaker 1: and Pete Carmichael, who at that time was my quarterback coach. 629 00:34:47,706 --> 00:34:51,106 Speaker 1: I just hired. Pete was at the Chargers as a 630 00:34:51,186 --> 00:34:54,746 Speaker 1: quality control coach, and so Pete new Drew actually was 631 00:34:54,786 --> 00:34:57,146 Speaker 1: in meetings Withdrew, and so there was like this tie. 632 00:34:57,506 --> 00:35:00,586 Speaker 1: It was purely coincidental, obviously, because I had hired Pete 633 00:35:01,066 --> 00:35:03,266 Speaker 1: and it was, you know, months later that we were 634 00:35:03,306 --> 00:35:06,826 Speaker 1: recruiting Drew. But Pete gave us a good lea aison 635 00:35:06,946 --> 00:35:09,466 Speaker 1: if you will, uh, and a go between. You know, 636 00:35:09,506 --> 00:35:12,626 Speaker 1: here's some of the offensive philosophies that he knows These 637 00:35:12,666 --> 00:35:14,626 Speaker 1: are some of the tags we're putting in the offense 638 00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:17,826 Speaker 1: will change how we're calling it based on you know, 639 00:35:17,866 --> 00:35:21,706 Speaker 1: if Drew's coming, we'll call we'll call these plays what 640 00:35:21,826 --> 00:35:24,346 Speaker 1: he already knows. You know, it's easy for us to adjust. 641 00:35:24,826 --> 00:35:27,466 Speaker 1: So we've got the whole power point and everything goes great. 642 00:35:27,666 --> 00:35:29,666 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, we've got the finger food, 643 00:35:30,146 --> 00:35:32,946 Speaker 1: the white Brittany, I think it's maybe a day of 644 00:35:32,986 --> 00:35:37,666 Speaker 1: shopping in Magazine Street, maybe a spa somewhere. Um, then 645 00:35:37,666 --> 00:35:39,986 Speaker 1: I've got a chance. I'm like, I volunteer, like, hey, 646 00:35:39,986 --> 00:35:43,706 Speaker 1: I'll show him some property, and not knowing any better. 647 00:35:43,786 --> 00:35:46,226 Speaker 1: But this is a complete mistake, right, I've only been 648 00:35:46,266 --> 00:35:48,826 Speaker 1: there a month and I'm driving him around. We go 649 00:35:48,906 --> 00:35:50,786 Speaker 1: to the north Shore, and if you're not familiar with 650 00:35:50,946 --> 00:35:54,466 Speaker 1: New Orleans, it's like it's like you're in New York 651 00:35:54,506 --> 00:35:56,386 Speaker 1: and you're saying, hey, we're gonna go over to Jersey. 652 00:35:56,906 --> 00:35:59,746 Speaker 1: All Right, it's a different area, but it's an option 653 00:35:59,786 --> 00:36:03,786 Speaker 1: to live, right, So yes, forty minutes across the bridge, 654 00:36:03,826 --> 00:36:06,786 Speaker 1: forty minutes back, A couple of wrong turns. Next you know, 655 00:36:06,826 --> 00:36:09,106 Speaker 1: I'm looking in the review mirror and Brittany is in 656 00:36:09,106 --> 00:36:12,346 Speaker 1: the back seat, and you know that Sunday afternoon drive 657 00:36:12,426 --> 00:36:14,666 Speaker 1: where you know you're on the way home and she's 658 00:36:14,786 --> 00:36:17,786 Speaker 1: dozing off. Drew's kind of looking at me, and he 659 00:36:17,866 --> 00:36:21,146 Speaker 1: can see the pilot is concerned. All right, I'm concerned. 660 00:36:21,186 --> 00:36:23,466 Speaker 1: You can look at the cockpit. Does not look great 661 00:36:23,546 --> 00:36:26,746 Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't look good. It looks definitely on dishoveled. 662 00:36:26,946 --> 00:36:32,266 Speaker 1: That would be the dish. And so it's not too 663 00:36:32,306 --> 00:36:35,226 Speaker 1: long ago. Two thousand and six. We didn't have like 664 00:36:35,546 --> 00:36:38,946 Speaker 1: directions on the phone. We had a BlackBerry, all right, 665 00:36:39,026 --> 00:36:42,026 Speaker 1: We had a BlackBerry. I happened to have a flip 666 00:36:42,026 --> 00:36:44,346 Speaker 1: at the time. So if I wanted to text somebody, 667 00:36:44,626 --> 00:36:47,506 Speaker 1: it was three times to get the letter. C You 668 00:36:47,626 --> 00:36:53,106 Speaker 1: with me, all right, So I call, I call, I 669 00:36:53,226 --> 00:36:55,826 Speaker 1: call home base Mickey Loomis Mickey, Yeah, he's where you 670 00:36:55,866 --> 00:36:57,906 Speaker 1: at hes We've been waiting on you. I said, uh, 671 00:36:58,226 --> 00:37:02,706 Speaker 1: kind of lost. Um. So some eventually we get back. 672 00:37:02,746 --> 00:37:04,706 Speaker 1: I take him off to dinner and I just remember 673 00:37:04,746 --> 00:37:07,506 Speaker 1: thinking I should just drive him right out to Miami. 674 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:12,586 Speaker 1: It's over and uh, he saw things that these eyes 675 00:37:12,626 --> 00:37:14,706 Speaker 1: should not see. No, it was not they were not 676 00:37:14,746 --> 00:37:16,626 Speaker 1: on it was not on the trip. Itinerary. I was 677 00:37:16,706 --> 00:37:20,466 Speaker 1: off the itinerary um and but it was one of 678 00:37:20,466 --> 00:37:22,466 Speaker 1: those things though that we look back on and laugh, 679 00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:27,946 Speaker 1: um and then slowly, slowly, the collection of the right 680 00:37:28,066 --> 00:37:32,066 Speaker 1: people is what brought success. And so I do think 681 00:37:32,106 --> 00:37:35,426 Speaker 1: we're uh and and that's not just a loan to 682 00:37:35,506 --> 00:37:38,466 Speaker 1: the NFL that that's I think any business with the 683 00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:41,386 Speaker 1: collection of the right people who were you know, kind 684 00:37:41,386 --> 00:37:48,146 Speaker 1: of motivated and um, forward thinking, unselfish and smart, you 685 00:37:48,146 --> 00:37:50,946 Speaker 1: can do a lot. Will you tell that story? And 686 00:37:51,066 --> 00:37:53,626 Speaker 1: the writer journalist and me ties it all up and says, 687 00:37:54,186 --> 00:37:56,386 Speaker 1: twenty years later, those two guys in the car help 688 00:37:56,466 --> 00:38:00,346 Speaker 1: rebuild that city, that that area, that area that you 689 00:38:00,386 --> 00:38:02,866 Speaker 1: were so you know, scared to be and driving through 690 00:38:02,906 --> 00:38:05,586 Speaker 1: look like it had been rocked. It is probably right 691 00:38:05,586 --> 00:38:07,906 Speaker 1: now in a lot better Apen. I'm not saying it's 692 00:38:07,946 --> 00:38:09,626 Speaker 1: it's the work of Sean Paigne and Drew Brees, but 693 00:38:09,666 --> 00:38:11,386 Speaker 1: you better believe that you guys are in the soil 694 00:38:11,386 --> 00:38:13,506 Speaker 1: there at New Orleans for the last twenty years. That 695 00:38:13,666 --> 00:38:16,586 Speaker 1: was Listen. I don't know that any of us knew truly, 696 00:38:18,066 --> 00:38:19,946 Speaker 1: we all knew we were going to a place to 697 00:38:20,106 --> 00:38:23,306 Speaker 1: play football and a place that hadn't had success and 698 00:38:23,466 --> 00:38:26,946 Speaker 1: those early stages, you know, the only jump ball. Everyone 699 00:38:27,026 --> 00:38:29,906 Speaker 1: that came came with a clear promotion. You know, I 700 00:38:29,946 --> 00:38:32,386 Speaker 1: got a head coaching job. You know, we didn't win 701 00:38:32,466 --> 00:38:35,466 Speaker 1: any ties. You know, Joe Bitt was the only guy 702 00:38:35,506 --> 00:38:40,466 Speaker 1: that had other opportunities of the same value, and he 703 00:38:40,546 --> 00:38:42,906 Speaker 1: chose us. The rest of us all came for promotion. 704 00:38:43,626 --> 00:38:46,186 Speaker 1: But how Drew ended up there, how Reggie Bush ended 705 00:38:46,266 --> 00:38:48,906 Speaker 1: up there. There's so many different stories that tie it 706 00:38:48,946 --> 00:38:52,426 Speaker 1: all together, but none of us could have imagined the 707 00:38:52,546 --> 00:38:56,346 Speaker 1: significance of that timing. You know, I heard this term 708 00:38:56,386 --> 00:38:58,586 Speaker 1: the other night. I thought it was interesting. The OH 709 00:38:58,746 --> 00:39:01,146 Speaker 1: six team that first year, we went to the NFC 710 00:39:01,266 --> 00:39:05,666 Speaker 1: championship game, and it wasn't our best team. I've said 711 00:39:05,706 --> 00:39:07,946 Speaker 1: two things about that team. It was our toughest team. 712 00:39:08,026 --> 00:39:11,186 Speaker 1: So if that team got in a bar fight with 713 00:39:11,226 --> 00:39:14,666 Speaker 1: any of the other teams, I think Goes six would 714 00:39:14,666 --> 00:39:16,626 Speaker 1: have won that fight. And I think it was our 715 00:39:16,666 --> 00:39:20,066 Speaker 1: most important team. The O nine team obviously won a 716 00:39:20,106 --> 00:39:23,786 Speaker 1: Super Bowl eleven. We had a number of great, great teams, 717 00:39:23,826 --> 00:39:28,186 Speaker 1: but the significance of that first year relative to what 718 00:39:28,306 --> 00:39:32,906 Speaker 1: that city was going through, and so I think one 719 00:39:32,906 --> 00:39:36,426 Speaker 1: of the things that is pretty cool and it's back 720 00:39:36,466 --> 00:39:40,386 Speaker 1: to your jumping backwards here to your question about decisions 721 00:39:40,466 --> 00:39:46,506 Speaker 1: relative to existing teams. Is sometimes those challenges where everyone 722 00:39:46,546 --> 00:39:50,266 Speaker 1: says no way, and you're like, I can totally see 723 00:39:50,306 --> 00:39:56,826 Speaker 1: it there, and and it's the adversity that becomes somewhat comical, 724 00:39:57,226 --> 00:40:02,346 Speaker 1: and you have those moments where you're building that when 725 00:40:02,346 --> 00:40:04,706 Speaker 1: people say it's the journey, it really is. It's not 726 00:40:04,826 --> 00:40:07,546 Speaker 1: the end. It's not holding the rise. It's all the 727 00:40:07,706 --> 00:40:09,906 Speaker 1: It's like you don't want that to end. It's it's 728 00:40:09,986 --> 00:40:14,226 Speaker 1: it's the it's the you know, you're running around trying 729 00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:15,866 Speaker 1: to catch the chicken, and you pick it up and 730 00:40:16,026 --> 00:40:18,266 Speaker 1: you've caught it, Like what do I do now? You 731 00:40:18,386 --> 00:40:20,706 Speaker 1: throw it and you start chasing it again, and and 732 00:40:20,746 --> 00:40:25,066 Speaker 1: if you'd like to change, yeah, it's that um And 733 00:40:25,146 --> 00:40:29,386 Speaker 1: so I think back to that triangle. You just want 734 00:40:29,426 --> 00:40:34,026 Speaker 1: that clear opportunity like the other teams have, and you 735 00:40:34,066 --> 00:40:39,986 Speaker 1: don't want to be handicapped or handcuffed to where I mean, 736 00:40:40,346 --> 00:40:43,466 Speaker 1: it's impossible, and so there's nothing. You know, we've all 737 00:40:43,466 --> 00:40:45,946 Speaker 1: been in a job where you're like you're looking at 738 00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:49,346 Speaker 1: something early on and you've got to fight through this job. 739 00:40:49,506 --> 00:40:53,506 Speaker 1: It's not the perfect job. But for one reason or another, 740 00:40:54,066 --> 00:40:56,746 Speaker 1: the success you're hoping to attain may take a walk. 741 00:40:57,386 --> 00:41:01,706 Speaker 1: Quarterback positions, it is great. Do have a preference veteran 742 00:41:01,826 --> 00:41:05,146 Speaker 1: to drafting a rookie if you had to, no, no, no, no, 743 00:41:05,346 --> 00:41:10,066 Speaker 1: I you want to you know, someone that's passionate about playing. 744 00:41:10,066 --> 00:41:12,626 Speaker 1: You know, parcels at a ten ten point checklist for 745 00:41:12,706 --> 00:41:15,226 Speaker 1: what you're looking for in this position. Please take me 746 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:22,186 Speaker 1: through this parcels. He wanted a battlefield commander. He didn't 747 00:41:22,266 --> 00:41:25,826 Speaker 1: he didn't want the I think the word was no 748 00:41:25,906 --> 00:41:30,666 Speaker 1: prima donnas or Hollywood. He just he wanted someone that 749 00:41:30,706 --> 00:41:33,186 Speaker 1: would lead. He wanted someone in the weight room with 750 00:41:33,226 --> 00:41:36,266 Speaker 1: his team. He wanted someone that was part of his team. 751 00:41:36,466 --> 00:41:40,026 Speaker 1: And he wanted someone that you know, your job is 752 00:41:40,106 --> 00:41:41,946 Speaker 1: to move the ball and get your team to the 753 00:41:42,026 --> 00:41:45,906 Speaker 1: end zone. Um. And so history has told us they 754 00:41:45,946 --> 00:41:48,026 Speaker 1: come in a lot of different shapes and sizes that 755 00:41:48,146 --> 00:41:50,666 Speaker 1: history has told us they come from all over our 756 00:41:50,706 --> 00:41:55,066 Speaker 1: country for the most part. And so, um, you know, 757 00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:58,226 Speaker 1: there's a handful of quarterbacks in this year's draft, but 758 00:41:58,266 --> 00:42:01,786 Speaker 1: there'll be a pretty I'm sure that not as many, 759 00:42:01,906 --> 00:42:03,706 Speaker 1: not as many people like that. All of a sudden, 760 00:42:03,706 --> 00:42:06,386 Speaker 1: we start to look at our draft reports now and say, man, 761 00:42:06,426 --> 00:42:08,106 Speaker 1: and how did I miss this game? How did I 762 00:42:08,146 --> 00:42:11,066 Speaker 1: miss this guy? Right? So that's the great thing about 763 00:42:11,066 --> 00:42:14,586 Speaker 1: our game. Um, watching him, watching Cody pick at play, 764 00:42:14,626 --> 00:42:17,866 Speaker 1: you know for Pittsburgh is that his first name is 765 00:42:17,866 --> 00:42:20,426 Speaker 1: it Kenny? I used to love Cody Pickett, Niners guy 766 00:42:20,546 --> 00:42:27,066 Speaker 1: was like Kenny pt Pittsburgh's Kenny. Watching him the other 767 00:42:27,186 --> 00:42:32,426 Speaker 1: night delivered for his team was was fantastic. Um, you know, 768 00:42:32,666 --> 00:42:35,946 Speaker 1: seeing some of these guys right now in the college stage. 769 00:42:35,986 --> 00:42:37,506 Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of right now in the middle 770 00:42:37,506 --> 00:42:42,306 Speaker 1: of this TCU bandwagon. My son's senior there. He works 771 00:42:42,306 --> 00:42:46,306 Speaker 1: in the football office as a student assistant. And watching 772 00:42:46,546 --> 00:42:50,346 Speaker 1: watching last weekend's game, you know, with with TCU and 773 00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:53,666 Speaker 1: Michigan are our good friend Charles Woodson had to wear 774 00:42:53,706 --> 00:42:56,866 Speaker 1: a purple tie the other day. Then you got Georgia 775 00:42:57,306 --> 00:43:00,666 Speaker 1: in Ohio State. I mean that was pretty amazing those 776 00:43:00,826 --> 00:43:03,586 Speaker 1: those two games in the back and forth. I don't 777 00:43:03,626 --> 00:43:05,986 Speaker 1: know if I don't like to have been a defensive coach, 778 00:43:06,066 --> 00:43:09,786 Speaker 1: but um, so much good quarterback play. Really, when you're 779 00:43:09,786 --> 00:43:14,226 Speaker 1: watching it, there's they're being developed quicker I think than before. 780 00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:18,226 Speaker 1: They're in offenses that are accelerating their learning curve now, 781 00:43:18,266 --> 00:43:20,026 Speaker 1: and so they come a little bit more ready to 782 00:43:20,066 --> 00:43:23,466 Speaker 1: our league to play um than they typically have in 783 00:43:23,506 --> 00:43:26,986 Speaker 1: the past. And that's a good thing. Team says, hey, 784 00:43:27,026 --> 00:43:29,906 Speaker 1: coach Payton, we love you, we'll pay you X amount 785 00:43:29,906 --> 00:43:32,466 Speaker 1: of dollars, and we want everything you bring. But we've 786 00:43:32,466 --> 00:43:34,746 Speaker 1: got a GM already here that we've been working with 787 00:43:34,786 --> 00:43:38,146 Speaker 1: for years. Is that a non starter for you? No? No, 788 00:43:38,586 --> 00:43:43,786 Speaker 1: I think um no, because I listen, that exact thing 789 00:43:43,866 --> 00:43:47,906 Speaker 1: happened in New Orleans, and so Parcels told me this once. 790 00:43:47,946 --> 00:43:50,906 Speaker 1: It was interesting. He said, you know, when a team 791 00:43:50,906 --> 00:43:54,586 Speaker 1: makes a change, he goes you study that roster, and 792 00:43:54,626 --> 00:43:58,706 Speaker 1: those coaches that end up leaving there. Oftentimes the mistake 793 00:43:59,466 --> 00:44:03,386 Speaker 1: of a new coach or a new front office, new 794 00:44:03,426 --> 00:44:08,226 Speaker 1: GM is they'll jettison some really good talent that really 795 00:44:08,266 --> 00:44:10,706 Speaker 1: wanted to be there, but they just happened to be 796 00:44:10,746 --> 00:44:13,826 Speaker 1: at the wrong place at the wrong time. In other words, uh, 797 00:44:13,866 --> 00:44:16,386 Speaker 1: you know, some some good talent will leave that building. 798 00:44:16,386 --> 00:44:18,866 Speaker 1: And so when I look back on that first year 799 00:44:18,866 --> 00:44:23,666 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, man, there were some key players that 800 00:44:23,746 --> 00:44:27,026 Speaker 1: were currently already in the building that wanted to be champions, 801 00:44:27,066 --> 00:44:32,946 Speaker 1: that wanted to work that wanted to structure discipline. You 802 00:44:32,986 --> 00:44:36,466 Speaker 1: had Will Smith, you had Charles Grant, you had jamar Nesbit, 803 00:44:36,946 --> 00:44:39,306 Speaker 1: you had John Stinchcomb is going to become a starter. 804 00:44:39,466 --> 00:44:42,466 Speaker 1: Yet a practice squad receiver by the name of Lance Moore, 805 00:44:42,666 --> 00:44:46,346 Speaker 1: Debree Henderson from l s u UM. I could go 806 00:44:46,386 --> 00:44:51,306 Speaker 1: on and on bullocks. We had, Uh. Look, I don't 807 00:44:51,346 --> 00:44:54,666 Speaker 1: want to leave players out, Mike Karney. There were a 808 00:44:54,746 --> 00:44:58,186 Speaker 1: lot of guys that we're just waiting for the right 809 00:44:58,746 --> 00:45:01,626 Speaker 1: and so I think the mistakes sometimes if if you 810 00:45:01,666 --> 00:45:04,906 Speaker 1: go in and you just start evaluate what you see 811 00:45:05,066 --> 00:45:06,906 Speaker 1: and go by what you see in the same thing 812 00:45:06,946 --> 00:45:09,546 Speaker 1: takes place with the within the building. We had scouts 813 00:45:09,546 --> 00:45:11,546 Speaker 1: and coaches that became part of it that we're part 814 00:45:11,586 --> 00:45:15,346 Speaker 1: of the old staff. And so it's back to your 815 00:45:15,426 --> 00:45:19,826 Speaker 1: question about an existing GM. It might be the perfect 816 00:45:19,826 --> 00:45:23,786 Speaker 1: combination that's waiting to happen. UM. Certainly you want to 817 00:45:23,826 --> 00:45:26,546 Speaker 1: meet and visit with them. I just knew the one 818 00:45:26,666 --> 00:45:30,546 Speaker 1: positive and there it was. Really there were a few 819 00:45:30,706 --> 00:45:33,946 Speaker 1: and far between. But Mickey made a great first impression. 820 00:45:34,066 --> 00:45:35,986 Speaker 1: And you know, he's one of my closest friends to 821 00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:40,026 Speaker 1: this day and so but honestly speaking, and he knows 822 00:45:40,106 --> 00:45:42,106 Speaker 1: this I kept thinking, Man, I like this guy. He's 823 00:45:42,146 --> 00:45:43,986 Speaker 1: got a lot of work ahead of him. I don't 824 00:45:43,986 --> 00:45:45,346 Speaker 1: know who he's going to get as a head coach 825 00:45:45,346 --> 00:45:49,826 Speaker 1: because I thought I'm going to Green Bay. Yeah. Yeah, 826 00:45:49,946 --> 00:45:52,506 Speaker 1: And that's how the world works sometimes, you know, it's like, wait, 827 00:45:52,546 --> 00:45:54,946 Speaker 1: I like this guy. Wait, actually it might work out 828 00:45:55,026 --> 00:45:57,506 Speaker 1: just fine. Um, you're talking a lot about New Orleans. 829 00:45:57,546 --> 00:45:59,546 Speaker 1: They have a coach, Dennis Allen. I know you're not in. 830 00:46:01,066 --> 00:46:04,106 Speaker 1: It's not a comfortable conversation, but who knows that might be? 831 00:46:04,146 --> 00:46:06,746 Speaker 1: Is there a potential return to New Orld? Think so? 832 00:46:07,466 --> 00:46:10,106 Speaker 1: And look, I'm kind of proud of how those guys 833 00:46:10,106 --> 00:46:13,506 Speaker 1: are playing and the way Dennis is handled. They had 834 00:46:13,546 --> 00:46:16,506 Speaker 1: some tough adversity early in the season, they had lost 835 00:46:16,506 --> 00:46:19,986 Speaker 1: some close games. Um, they're going to finish the year 836 00:46:20,186 --> 00:46:24,106 Speaker 1: versus Carolina at home. I know that because it's it's 837 00:46:24,146 --> 00:46:27,986 Speaker 1: one of my picks this week in our segment. Um. 838 00:46:28,146 --> 00:46:31,386 Speaker 1: And I think that Dennis is someone that I remember. 839 00:46:31,426 --> 00:46:34,386 Speaker 1: I mean I hired in two thousand and six, so 840 00:46:34,546 --> 00:46:37,186 Speaker 1: he was on that first staff. Um. So he came 841 00:46:37,506 --> 00:46:40,466 Speaker 1: as an assistant defensive line coach. I think that was 842 00:46:40,546 --> 00:46:44,746 Speaker 1: his title, and then eventually became promoted to secondary coach 843 00:46:45,306 --> 00:46:49,386 Speaker 1: and then uh past two thousand and ten eleven twelve, 844 00:46:50,186 --> 00:46:52,986 Speaker 1: at some point he gets hired to be the defensive 845 00:46:53,026 --> 00:46:55,946 Speaker 1: coordinator of the Broncos and then went on to become 846 00:46:55,986 --> 00:47:00,746 Speaker 1: the head coach of the then Oakland Raiders. So no 847 00:47:00,946 --> 00:47:03,866 Speaker 1: guys like Dennis Dan Campbell, you know how much I'm 848 00:47:03,866 --> 00:47:06,706 Speaker 1: pulling for him, Doug Moron at one point. You know, 849 00:47:06,746 --> 00:47:09,546 Speaker 1: we've had a number of guys come through our program 850 00:47:09,666 --> 00:47:11,386 Speaker 1: be a part of our staff that went on to 851 00:47:11,426 --> 00:47:15,786 Speaker 1: become either coordinators or head coaches. And I think Dennis 852 00:47:15,866 --> 00:47:17,226 Speaker 1: is one of those guys that's going to do a 853 00:47:17,266 --> 00:47:20,026 Speaker 1: really good job. A couple more questions then we'll wrap. 854 00:47:20,066 --> 00:47:21,506 Speaker 1: I hate feeling like this is like you on the 855 00:47:21,546 --> 00:47:24,186 Speaker 1: hot seat, but this is fun. No, it's all good. Hey, 856 00:47:24,266 --> 00:47:27,346 Speaker 1: when you're done, all right, what do I have here? 857 00:47:27,946 --> 00:47:33,466 Speaker 1: Cards against Humanity? What hidden gems? Bundle? Okay, bring it 858 00:47:33,506 --> 00:47:35,986 Speaker 1: this weekend play with I think you'd be pretty good 859 00:47:36,026 --> 00:47:38,146 Speaker 1: at trivia. I'll bet you'd be real good. Guys. Do 860 00:47:38,186 --> 00:47:43,826 Speaker 1: it right now? Do you have it? It's wrapped Christmas gift, 861 00:47:43,866 --> 00:47:47,826 Speaker 1: A little little stocking stuff. That's good. So Tom Brady 862 00:47:47,906 --> 00:47:49,666 Speaker 1: is here your quarterback wherever you go. How's that for 863 00:47:49,706 --> 00:47:55,666 Speaker 1: a nice one? Man? I'll tell you what, um that No, 864 00:47:55,866 --> 00:47:59,266 Speaker 1: I think that there are a number of things that 865 00:47:59,346 --> 00:48:02,866 Speaker 1: play into Tom's decision. When I can't speak for Tom 866 00:48:02,946 --> 00:48:06,146 Speaker 1: what I haven't talked to Tom. Uh. I'm certainly a 867 00:48:06,146 --> 00:48:08,146 Speaker 1: big fan. It was good to see them play well 868 00:48:08,786 --> 00:48:10,946 Speaker 1: this past week. And when I say it was good 869 00:48:10,986 --> 00:48:14,186 Speaker 1: to see them, I'm actually pulling for New Orleans and 870 00:48:14,226 --> 00:48:18,666 Speaker 1: against that division. It's just my nature. Um, But he 871 00:48:18,746 --> 00:48:21,586 Speaker 1: and Mike Evans hooked up for you know, some big 872 00:48:21,626 --> 00:48:26,466 Speaker 1: plays people forget. And I'm not sidestepping this question real quick. 873 00:48:27,866 --> 00:48:30,626 Speaker 1: You're always as an evaluator trying to see how much 874 00:48:30,786 --> 00:48:33,026 Speaker 1: of the decline has been Tom, or how much has 875 00:48:33,066 --> 00:48:35,306 Speaker 1: it been the three offensive lineman that we're injured, a 876 00:48:35,386 --> 00:48:38,786 Speaker 1: starting center. You know, a lot of different faces in 877 00:48:38,786 --> 00:48:42,186 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Who's blocking the d gap? The tight 878 00:48:42,306 --> 00:48:45,866 Speaker 1: ends gone, Gronkowski. All I hear about Gronk is his 879 00:48:45,946 --> 00:48:48,986 Speaker 1: red zone is catches. But there's a lot of there's 880 00:48:49,026 --> 00:48:52,226 Speaker 1: a lot of ditch digg and he did all right 881 00:48:52,266 --> 00:48:55,026 Speaker 1: when it came to their run game. And and so 882 00:48:55,106 --> 00:48:58,306 Speaker 1: that's gone. There's one receiver less, another receiver coming off 883 00:48:58,346 --> 00:49:03,186 Speaker 1: an injury. So that cast. And this is nothing. This 884 00:49:03,306 --> 00:49:06,186 Speaker 1: is just factual, al right. So I'm not talking about 885 00:49:06,666 --> 00:49:11,626 Speaker 1: Todd Byron, Tom Brady or anyone else. That cast changed 886 00:49:12,426 --> 00:49:17,826 Speaker 1: on the Buccaneers this year on offense. Um, just because 887 00:49:17,866 --> 00:49:20,586 Speaker 1: there were some injuries and a number of reasons. And 888 00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:25,106 Speaker 1: so when that cast change changes like that, the quarterback 889 00:49:25,226 --> 00:49:28,386 Speaker 1: position is affected, the clock in his head is quicker, 890 00:49:28,666 --> 00:49:30,626 Speaker 1: He's having to throw the ball a little bit quicker. 891 00:49:30,986 --> 00:49:34,506 Speaker 1: Last week, another tick, another one count, and all of 892 00:49:34,546 --> 00:49:37,906 Speaker 1: a sudden, some balls down the field. So I don't 893 00:49:37,946 --> 00:49:40,786 Speaker 1: know that I've seen a drop off when I watched 894 00:49:40,786 --> 00:49:44,106 Speaker 1: his team play. Um, I've seen a little bit of 895 00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:48,306 Speaker 1: a drop off in their offense, but but not necessarily 896 00:49:48,346 --> 00:49:51,346 Speaker 1: with Tom and but certainly to the mind's eye, we 897 00:49:51,386 --> 00:49:54,186 Speaker 1: can look at it and say he didn't look the same. Well, no, kid, 898 00:49:54,346 --> 00:49:56,466 Speaker 1: he didn't look the same. And none of us are 899 00:49:56,506 --> 00:50:00,066 Speaker 1: if if that type of thing changes. As part of 900 00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:04,066 Speaker 1: our eleven we've known each other for years. Um. We 901 00:50:04,226 --> 00:50:06,866 Speaker 1: both happened to be from the same area. And Kelly Forna, 902 00:50:07,026 --> 00:50:09,346 Speaker 1: now I was only there for seven years. That's where 903 00:50:09,346 --> 00:50:12,546 Speaker 1: he grew up, San Mateo, California. He went to high 904 00:50:12,546 --> 00:50:15,906 Speaker 1: school where my brother went to high school. And it 905 00:50:15,946 --> 00:50:19,786 Speaker 1: wasn't until really thirty years later, twenty five years later 906 00:50:20,426 --> 00:50:24,106 Speaker 1: that this agent by the name of Don Yee who 907 00:50:24,146 --> 00:50:27,466 Speaker 1: represents me and who has Tom, introduced us. We had 908 00:50:27,466 --> 00:50:31,346 Speaker 1: a joint practice when I was with the Giants. Tom's 909 00:50:31,426 --> 00:50:36,626 Speaker 1: rookie year with the Patriots, UM, Tom was coached by 910 00:50:36,666 --> 00:50:39,746 Speaker 1: the late Dick Raybind Dick was a fantastic coach for 911 00:50:39,826 --> 00:50:42,546 Speaker 1: us at the Giants, who then went to the Patriots 912 00:50:42,626 --> 00:50:45,466 Speaker 1: to coach quarterbacks and and had a lot to do 913 00:50:45,546 --> 00:50:48,546 Speaker 1: with getting Tom there as a draft pick. And anyway, 914 00:50:48,826 --> 00:50:51,826 Speaker 1: Tom was a backup. I've got some pictures I'll show 915 00:50:51,826 --> 00:50:54,986 Speaker 1: you where you know here to like really green when 916 00:50:55,026 --> 00:50:58,826 Speaker 1: I say green coach and a green player. UM, and 917 00:50:58,866 --> 00:51:01,146 Speaker 1: so over the years we've always stayed in touch, never 918 00:51:01,186 --> 00:51:05,346 Speaker 1: worked together, and I think there's too many, too many 919 00:51:05,426 --> 00:51:09,106 Speaker 1: variables in that equation. If we work together, shregs. I'm 920 00:51:09,106 --> 00:51:12,026 Speaker 1: going to predict there's a good chance if we work together, 921 00:51:12,066 --> 00:51:14,986 Speaker 1: it'll be with Fox. Really we didn't. Brady signed a 922 00:51:15,026 --> 00:51:18,346 Speaker 1: deal with Fox. Yes, but I'm I'm thinking, here comes 923 00:51:18,346 --> 00:51:21,786 Speaker 1: Sean Payton and it's traveling. You know, he's traveling rodeo 924 00:51:21,866 --> 00:51:23,546 Speaker 1: of of people that are coming with him, And it's 925 00:51:23,546 --> 00:51:27,066 Speaker 1: a defensive question. Can you imagine? And here's and here's 926 00:51:27,106 --> 00:51:30,746 Speaker 1: the guy in the fourth spot, Tom Brady. You're talking, 927 00:51:31,346 --> 00:51:34,746 Speaker 1: he's gonna breakdown, He's gonna breakdown. Saints Panther still with us. 928 00:51:35,066 --> 00:51:37,226 Speaker 1: You're gonna have You're gonna have him on a podcast 929 00:51:37,266 --> 00:51:39,466 Speaker 1: this time next year, and you're gonna be introducing him. 930 00:51:39,546 --> 00:51:42,066 Speaker 1: Is hey one of the guys I see on weekends? 931 00:51:42,426 --> 00:51:46,306 Speaker 1: You know? And and uh yeah, I think um and 932 00:51:46,306 --> 00:51:49,266 Speaker 1: and look, I can't honestly who can blame him with 933 00:51:49,266 --> 00:51:52,146 Speaker 1: the contract that that that was reported relative to to 934 00:51:52,266 --> 00:51:56,546 Speaker 1: that deal, I know, I know it was nice. Uh 935 00:51:56,666 --> 00:52:00,066 Speaker 1: all right, this is awesome. My last one, I guess 936 00:52:00,146 --> 00:52:03,066 Speaker 1: would be if you're a betting man, Um, is your 937 00:52:03,106 --> 00:52:05,306 Speaker 1: next month going to be filmed filled with flying to 938 00:52:05,586 --> 00:52:08,786 Speaker 1: local to local all and having dinner with billionaire owners? 939 00:52:08,946 --> 00:52:11,186 Speaker 1: Or is this next month going to be you know what, 940 00:52:12,066 --> 00:52:13,786 Speaker 1: they can come to me and or they don't have 941 00:52:13,786 --> 00:52:15,346 Speaker 1: to come to me? Like, how do you think this 942 00:52:15,426 --> 00:52:18,346 Speaker 1: is going to play out? Oh? I honestly, I'm the 943 00:52:18,386 --> 00:52:21,626 Speaker 1: worst at that. I here's what I know. I'm always 944 00:52:21,666 --> 00:52:24,506 Speaker 1: like eight days in advance. I know we're in the 945 00:52:24,586 --> 00:52:28,706 Speaker 1: office Sunday. Uh, and and we may have a Saturday dinner, 946 00:52:28,786 --> 00:52:31,346 Speaker 1: but we're in the office Sunday all day. I know Monday, 947 00:52:31,426 --> 00:52:36,146 Speaker 1: TCU plays, um right here at Sofi Stadium. TCU is 948 00:52:36,146 --> 00:52:40,826 Speaker 1: playing Georgia. Uh. Two great coaches and football programs, and 949 00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:43,586 Speaker 1: we're excited to see that game. I know that I 950 00:52:43,666 --> 00:52:48,146 Speaker 1: might be golfing on Wednesday next week. So the point is, though, 951 00:52:48,786 --> 00:52:50,946 Speaker 1: like I'm the worst that like, oh, I think they're 952 00:52:51,866 --> 00:52:54,986 Speaker 1: I do think after this weekend one of the tough 953 00:52:55,026 --> 00:52:58,106 Speaker 1: things about our business and I hate that we we 954 00:52:58,186 --> 00:53:01,786 Speaker 1: even use this phrase is black Monday. You don't have 955 00:53:01,866 --> 00:53:03,466 Speaker 1: to you know, have they even say we don't even 956 00:53:03,506 --> 00:53:05,346 Speaker 1: do it anymore on NFL network. We're like, let's just 957 00:53:05,346 --> 00:53:08,266 Speaker 1: not call it that anymore. It's it's just, you know, 958 00:53:08,426 --> 00:53:11,786 Speaker 1: end of the season changes are being made and uh. 959 00:53:11,866 --> 00:53:14,866 Speaker 1: And it's tough because if it's if it's a head 960 00:53:14,866 --> 00:53:19,506 Speaker 1: coach that's going through that, that probably means there's seventeen 961 00:53:19,546 --> 00:53:22,426 Speaker 1: assistant coaches that are that are going through the same thing. 962 00:53:22,546 --> 00:53:25,946 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, it's always a tough part of the year. Um. 963 00:53:26,666 --> 00:53:29,186 Speaker 1: But I do think this, the next time we do 964 00:53:29,266 --> 00:53:31,666 Speaker 1: this podcast, I think we'll have a little bit more clarity. 965 00:53:31,706 --> 00:53:35,506 Speaker 1: I really enjoy what I'm doing right now, and I 966 00:53:35,586 --> 00:53:38,426 Speaker 1: have a hard time with fantasy football right now, like 967 00:53:38,466 --> 00:53:40,746 Speaker 1: I don't I don't keep my roster up to date. 968 00:53:40,826 --> 00:53:43,146 Speaker 1: I do all these things that you're not supposed to do, 969 00:53:43,226 --> 00:53:44,826 Speaker 1: and I think I'm in the same way when it 970 00:53:44,826 --> 00:53:48,746 Speaker 1: would come to wagering odds. But I do think, um, currently, 971 00:53:48,866 --> 00:53:51,026 Speaker 1: the job I have at Fox, I enjoy, and there's 972 00:53:51,426 --> 00:53:54,106 Speaker 1: there's a good chance that that I'm I'm doing that 973 00:53:54,146 --> 00:53:58,066 Speaker 1: again this upcoming year. Wow. You know it's funny because 974 00:53:58,106 --> 00:54:01,026 Speaker 1: I'm looking at our playoff schedule and Fox has two 975 00:54:01,106 --> 00:54:04,506 Speaker 1: wild card rounds, two divisional rounds, an NFC Championship game, 976 00:54:04,546 --> 00:54:06,906 Speaker 1: and then we host the Super Bowl Fox. So in 977 00:54:06,946 --> 00:54:08,906 Speaker 1: my head, I was talking to my wife, Erica, who 978 00:54:08,946 --> 00:54:11,506 Speaker 1: you got to know, and I'm like, gosh, I love 979 00:54:11,706 --> 00:54:13,786 Speaker 1: coach so much and I want him to get the 980 00:54:13,826 --> 00:54:16,346 Speaker 1: best job that he can in head coaching. But I'm 981 00:54:16,346 --> 00:54:18,626 Speaker 1: also selfishly like, we got a cool month ahead, but 982 00:54:18,666 --> 00:54:20,506 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing a lot of football talk together 983 00:54:20,546 --> 00:54:21,906 Speaker 1: and I don't wanted to leave. I wanted to be 984 00:54:21,986 --> 00:54:26,826 Speaker 1: there so Peter, for our audience, I want to explain 985 00:54:26,866 --> 00:54:30,746 Speaker 1: to them. Last night um, just random randomly, Trags will 986 00:54:30,746 --> 00:54:33,466 Speaker 1: send me something like, hey, I'm just looking here. Drew 987 00:54:33,466 --> 00:54:37,906 Speaker 1: Brees set the all time UH touchdown pass mark or 988 00:54:38,306 --> 00:54:40,906 Speaker 1: yardage mark. It was one of these three. It was 989 00:54:40,946 --> 00:54:44,226 Speaker 1: a Chris Ivory throw, it was a Jimmy Graham throw, 990 00:54:44,426 --> 00:54:46,866 Speaker 1: or Darren Sproles. And right away, I'm like Darren Sproles, 991 00:54:46,906 --> 00:54:48,306 Speaker 1: I knew, I knew the play. I had the ball, 992 00:54:48,866 --> 00:54:51,026 Speaker 1: all right. You know, here's what it is. The homes 993 00:54:51,146 --> 00:54:57,226 Speaker 1: is you can finish it about He's four thirty away 994 00:54:57,266 --> 00:55:00,026 Speaker 1: from breaking the record which Manning broke from Breeze. But 995 00:55:00,066 --> 00:55:02,146 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the I'm a sick pupp And if 996 00:55:02,146 --> 00:55:04,186 Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast, you know I have a lot, 997 00:55:04,226 --> 00:55:06,746 Speaker 1: a lot of interest in like deep football's stuff that 998 00:55:06,786 --> 00:55:09,626 Speaker 1: maybe not everyone does. Coach Payton and I share that 999 00:55:09,746 --> 00:55:14,786 Speaker 1: deep love, my kindred spirit. So I said, Trivia, who 1000 00:55:14,986 --> 00:55:18,666 Speaker 1: caught the past when Breeze broke Dan Marino's twenty seven 1001 00:55:18,746 --> 00:55:21,626 Speaker 1: year record of passing yards in a season, And I said, 1002 00:55:21,706 --> 00:55:24,306 Speaker 1: was it Chris Ivory? Was it Marcus Coulson, was it 1003 00:55:24,426 --> 00:55:27,586 Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls or was it I think? I said Robert Meacham, 1004 00:55:27,786 --> 00:55:30,986 Speaker 1: and coach take it away yeah, so right away, as 1005 00:55:30,986 --> 00:55:32,826 Speaker 1: soon as he gave me the options, I saw one 1006 00:55:32,866 --> 00:55:34,746 Speaker 1: of them. You know, the right away I knew was Sprowls. 1007 00:55:34,946 --> 00:55:37,426 Speaker 1: I put down B right away, be he got it 1008 00:55:37,466 --> 00:55:39,186 Speaker 1: like right when he sent it. And then and then 1009 00:55:39,226 --> 00:55:41,466 Speaker 1: I wrote following, I said, I have the ball and 1010 00:55:41,506 --> 00:55:46,786 Speaker 1: he just went up. So that being said, when when 1011 00:55:46,786 --> 00:55:50,146 Speaker 1: you do these podcasts, I don't know the people at 1012 00:55:50,146 --> 00:55:53,386 Speaker 1: home do this, but I do. I propped the computer 1013 00:55:53,866 --> 00:55:57,506 Speaker 1: on something. I'm gonna give you three choices. This laptop, 1014 00:55:57,786 --> 00:56:01,426 Speaker 1: Peter is propped on one of three choices. A A 1015 00:56:01,586 --> 00:56:06,706 Speaker 1: Christmas set of Riddell four four wine glasses. You know, 1016 00:56:07,306 --> 00:56:11,546 Speaker 1: a four pack of Riddell um looks like yeah, it 1017 00:56:11,546 --> 00:56:16,226 Speaker 1: looks like a Cabernet wine glasses. Or it's propped on 1018 00:56:17,186 --> 00:56:22,226 Speaker 1: um a Friedo Lay five pack of Cheeto's Son Chips 1019 00:56:22,226 --> 00:56:27,786 Speaker 1: to Rito's Chilian Cheese Friedo's. Or it's propped on two 1020 00:56:27,866 --> 00:56:31,506 Speaker 1: boxes of cereal, one being apple Jack's and the other 1021 00:56:31,586 --> 00:56:37,426 Speaker 1: box being Raisin Brand. So a the ridel wineglass gift set, 1022 00:56:38,146 --> 00:56:42,186 Speaker 1: be the Friedo Lay five pack of chips, or see 1023 00:56:43,306 --> 00:56:48,626 Speaker 1: all right, see the unhealthy cereal boxes of apple Jack's. 1024 00:56:48,746 --> 00:56:51,466 Speaker 1: And uh would I say the second one, I'm looking 1025 00:56:51,506 --> 00:56:57,306 Speaker 1: at it right here, Apple Jack's and um Raisin Brandon. 1026 00:56:57,826 --> 00:57:00,026 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with b. I'm gonna say we've got 1027 00:57:00,026 --> 00:57:03,226 Speaker 1: the potato chip variety pack that you bought while walking 1028 00:57:03,226 --> 00:57:05,786 Speaker 1: through a bodega in Manhattan Beach. You're like, oh, let's 1029 00:57:05,786 --> 00:57:07,266 Speaker 1: pick it up with me? Did we might not? You 1030 00:57:07,306 --> 00:57:09,266 Speaker 1: know what? Those don't go old. I'm gonna say we've 1031 00:57:09,306 --> 00:57:13,226 Speaker 1: got some some some some friedo lay Friedo's that were 1032 00:57:13,306 --> 00:57:20,226 Speaker 1: resting this laptop. Yes, I got it right, I got 1033 00:57:20,266 --> 00:57:22,506 Speaker 1: it right right from the Sam's Club. It looks like, yes, 1034 00:57:25,906 --> 00:57:29,586 Speaker 1: we got that. That is so delicious. Oh I want 1035 00:57:29,586 --> 00:57:32,106 Speaker 1: it all right now to sun Chips. That's the healthy option. 1036 00:57:32,306 --> 00:57:36,586 Speaker 1: Those don't go eating. I can't No one's eating sonships. 1037 00:57:36,666 --> 00:57:41,146 Speaker 1: I can't believe you got be I'm thinking and I 1038 00:57:41,186 --> 00:57:42,946 Speaker 1: had to like put my eyes down there like I 1039 00:57:43,026 --> 00:57:47,946 Speaker 1: was reading each one, and I struggled with that's good. 1040 00:57:48,506 --> 00:57:51,466 Speaker 1: Uh do you remember so real quick? You guys love this. 1041 00:57:52,266 --> 00:57:54,626 Speaker 1: You know, here's this Hall of Fame coach and there's 1042 00:57:54,626 --> 00:57:57,506 Speaker 1: this me Mr hot Shot on tv UM he's about 1043 00:57:57,506 --> 00:58:00,186 Speaker 1: to go on the Manning Cast and I and I'm like, oh, yeah, 1044 00:58:00,226 --> 00:58:02,746 Speaker 1: what's good and coach just sends me a text. It's 1045 00:58:02,746 --> 00:58:05,146 Speaker 1: a picture of his jersey Mike. Subby's about to eat. 1046 00:58:05,386 --> 00:58:07,906 Speaker 1: So sure enough, sure enough. A couple of weeks later, 1047 00:58:07,986 --> 00:58:09,826 Speaker 1: I'm stuck in l a X airport. I take a 1048 00:58:09,866 --> 00:58:12,946 Speaker 1: self I got my club sell number nine. Baby, I'm 1049 00:58:12,986 --> 00:58:14,986 Speaker 1: in let's go. Just showing my face with jersey Mike. 1050 00:58:15,146 --> 00:58:19,266 Speaker 1: That's the good stuff, no question, no question. It's uh yeah, 1051 00:58:19,306 --> 00:58:23,906 Speaker 1: it's is honestly. So, I have this eight Sleep app 1052 00:58:23,986 --> 00:58:27,386 Speaker 1: that grades my sleep and it's simple. It's just a 1053 00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:31,786 Speaker 1: mattress cover. Um and look, it can chill, it can warm, 1054 00:58:31,826 --> 00:58:33,986 Speaker 1: and it reads your heart rate all those things. How 1055 00:58:34,026 --> 00:58:36,306 Speaker 1: long you slept? Four? And I said to my wife 1056 00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:38,346 Speaker 1: the other day, I said, hey, my eight Sleep. Just 1057 00:58:38,466 --> 00:58:40,746 Speaker 1: asked me if I've changed professions. She's like, what are 1058 00:58:40,746 --> 00:58:45,346 Speaker 1: you talking about? It says, well, you're you're averaging eight 1059 00:58:45,386 --> 00:58:48,746 Speaker 1: and a half hours per per night sleep compared to 1060 00:58:48,786 --> 00:58:52,266 Speaker 1: your four and a half. And we just started laughing. Yeah. 1061 00:58:52,306 --> 00:58:53,666 Speaker 1: So the first thing I do when I get up 1062 00:58:53,746 --> 00:58:55,306 Speaker 1: is like, what's my grade? What I get? I got 1063 00:58:55,346 --> 00:58:57,946 Speaker 1: a ninety two this morning? I had eight hours and 1064 00:58:58,026 --> 00:59:02,066 Speaker 1: four minutes. Um slept well, and uh, there's quite a 1065 00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:06,586 Speaker 1: bit of rain here. But um no, I yeah, we're 1066 00:59:06,626 --> 00:59:09,746 Speaker 1: having we're having fun, and we're talking about a lot 1067 00:59:09,746 --> 00:59:13,906 Speaker 1: of things. Uh. And I listen, I say this, I 1068 00:59:13,946 --> 00:59:20,906 Speaker 1: appreciate our friendship and and it's easier uh after this week. 1069 00:59:21,386 --> 00:59:23,506 Speaker 1: You just want to make sure those people, if if 1070 00:59:23,626 --> 00:59:26,066 Speaker 1: we all as human beings are just a little kinder, 1071 00:59:26,106 --> 00:59:28,946 Speaker 1: a little closer, a little smarter, hug a little bit more. 1072 00:59:29,426 --> 00:59:31,906 Speaker 1: To see what went on to start our week, and 1073 00:59:31,946 --> 00:59:35,906 Speaker 1: to watch our country's response, our league's response, are our 1074 00:59:36,026 --> 00:59:40,826 Speaker 1: peers responses. It just gives you a good feeling relative 1075 00:59:40,946 --> 00:59:44,586 Speaker 1: to the spirit. And uh. So we're pulling for to 1076 00:59:44,706 --> 00:59:48,186 Speaker 1: Mar's health and recovery. Uh and each day it sounds 1077 00:59:48,226 --> 00:59:51,786 Speaker 1: like it's getting better, and we continue to uh. But 1078 00:59:51,906 --> 00:59:53,506 Speaker 1: we all want to see that picture where he just 1079 00:59:53,506 --> 00:59:57,426 Speaker 1: looks at that balance and and and it's almost like 1080 00:59:57,426 --> 01:00:00,426 Speaker 1: a movie, right you just like you know those movies 1081 01:00:00,426 --> 01:00:03,386 Speaker 1: where they talk about you've been asleep for this long 1082 01:00:03,466 --> 01:00:06,946 Speaker 1: and it's it's hopefully we get that that happy we're 1083 01:00:06,986 --> 01:00:09,466 Speaker 1: all praying. Hey, that's a perfect way to end this, coach. 1084 01:00:09,986 --> 01:00:12,106 Speaker 1: We thought maybe it's be a fifteen twenty minute chat 1085 01:00:12,146 --> 01:00:17,506 Speaker 1: you at the full hour. I love you, man, I 1086 01:00:17,506 --> 01:00:20,666 Speaker 1: will see you this weekend. We'll have some Radel wine. Um, 1087 01:00:20,986 --> 01:00:24,066 Speaker 1: we'll laugh a bunch, and then if you're the coach, 1088 01:00:25,066 --> 01:00:27,146 Speaker 1: bring the son chips. And if you're the coach of 1089 01:00:27,146 --> 01:00:29,106 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans in a week we'll say, yeah, well 1090 01:00:29,146 --> 01:00:30,906 Speaker 1: we didn't know that then, but now we know it now. 1091 01:00:30,906 --> 01:00:33,746 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Have an amazing rest of your week. 1092 01:00:33,786 --> 01:00:35,586 Speaker 1: And then uh, we'll talk to some football this weekend. 1093 01:00:35,626 --> 01:00:37,546 Speaker 1: You're the best. You're the best too. We see Peter. 1094 01:00:37,946 --> 01:00:42,386 Speaker 1: I love that guy. Uh, Sean Payton is It was awesome. 1095 01:00:42,546 --> 01:00:44,386 Speaker 1: I didn't know him like this. I think he said 1096 01:00:44,466 --> 01:00:46,346 Speaker 1: that we just became friends this year. Like he was 1097 01:00:46,386 --> 01:00:48,146 Speaker 1: always a coach and I would do sidelines and I'd 1098 01:00:48,146 --> 01:00:49,666 Speaker 1: go in there and he was always very engaging. But 1099 01:00:50,306 --> 01:00:52,306 Speaker 1: Sean always had his guys in the media, and one 1100 01:00:52,306 --> 01:00:53,906 Speaker 1: of them was Jake Glazer at Fox. And I was 1101 01:00:53,946 --> 01:00:56,506 Speaker 1: always like, you know what I have my guys. Glazers 1102 01:00:56,546 --> 01:00:59,946 Speaker 1: got his, chefter has got his. It's like and I 1103 01:00:59,986 --> 01:01:01,906 Speaker 1: never really made the effort, and I never really thought 1104 01:01:01,986 --> 01:01:04,426 Speaker 1: Sean I wanted to make the effort with me, And 1105 01:01:04,426 --> 01:01:06,346 Speaker 1: then sure enough we worked together Fox and A because 1106 01:01:06,426 --> 01:01:09,226 Speaker 1: of this guy, A friend for life. UM a leader, 1107 01:01:09,866 --> 01:01:14,026 Speaker 1: an incredibly charismatic guy. He's funny as hell, and I 1108 01:01:14,066 --> 01:01:15,946 Speaker 1: think a lot of the things he said we're poignant. 1109 01:01:15,946 --> 01:01:19,266 Speaker 1: I also think, Um, after that full hour, I don't 1110 01:01:19,266 --> 01:01:21,826 Speaker 1: I can't take away if if he wants to coach 1111 01:01:21,906 --> 01:01:23,386 Speaker 1: or not, if he's going to be coaching or not. 1112 01:01:23,466 --> 01:01:25,706 Speaker 1: And maybe that's the beauty of it. He plays his cards, 1113 01:01:26,146 --> 01:01:28,186 Speaker 1: uh pretty much what feels like wide open. And yet 1114 01:01:28,546 --> 01:01:30,466 Speaker 1: I come away from that interview saying, if I had 1115 01:01:30,506 --> 01:01:32,146 Speaker 1: to put money on whether he's back or not, I'd 1116 01:01:32,186 --> 01:01:35,026 Speaker 1: say please pass. I don't know. I don't know. Um, 1117 01:01:35,066 --> 01:01:36,466 Speaker 1: I want to say back, I mean back at Fox. 1118 01:01:36,466 --> 01:01:39,946 Speaker 1: We've been lucky to have him. I started this podcast 1119 01:01:39,986 --> 01:01:42,186 Speaker 1: about an hour ago talking about Damor Hamblin and how 1120 01:01:42,226 --> 01:01:44,266 Speaker 1: we're gonna transition to talk about football. We ended it 1121 01:01:44,306 --> 01:01:47,266 Speaker 1: with big laughs and uh, Sean Payton and I talking 1122 01:01:47,266 --> 01:01:50,266 Speaker 1: about son chips and whether they're a chip worth eating 1123 01:01:50,666 --> 01:01:53,586 Speaker 1: and Jersey Mike's and how we've been sleeping a little 1124 01:01:53,626 --> 01:01:57,106 Speaker 1: better since his coaching days are ending. I love you 1125 01:01:57,106 --> 01:01:59,266 Speaker 1: guys for listening. I hope this brought you some joy. 1126 01:01:59,506 --> 01:02:01,666 Speaker 1: And what was a very weird week for an NFL 1127 01:02:01,746 --> 01:02:04,546 Speaker 1: fan and Hopefully we have some better news on the 1128 01:02:04,666 --> 01:02:06,666 Speaker 1: moor Hamlin when this thing post and you start listen 1129 01:02:06,706 --> 01:02:09,546 Speaker 1: to it, Enjoy the weekend. It's week eighteen. We'll check 1130 01:02:09,586 --> 01:02:12,586 Speaker 1: in next week, hopefully with some different terms. 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