1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Why from our nations this budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: do nothing space forts. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet headlines Policy and Politics, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: colliding to sound on with Kevin Currel, the insiders, the influencers, 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the insides. I would rather see a congressional solution. It's 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: part of my DNA. The Senate map in looks a 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: lot different than it looked in. You really have a 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: divide within Team Trump. The President has to do exactly 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: what people send him here to do, which is to 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: get it done. He's sound on with Kevin Currel on 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one and one, m H D two Boltimore. Senate 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has a message for President Donald 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Trump while he's on foreign soil. He's urging President Trump 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: to talk to the Republicans, talk to the GOP before 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: those Mexico tariffs start TikTok. It's like deja vu on 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: tariffs all over again, not with the Chinese, but with 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: mex Ico. Will take you to an exclusive interview that 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I had with Democratic Party leadership in the House of Representatives, 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: hackem Jefferies, Hakeem Jeffreys. He's talking tariffs, He's talking impeachment. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: He's a Democrat representing New York and Congressman darrenlaw Hood's 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna call in Republican from Illinois. He's a House Ways 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: and Means Committee member. Trade trade talk, It's all anybody 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: wants to talk about trade, trade, trade, and of course 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: will also take you into the brewing battle all Star 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: panel to help us navigate through. Will be supposed to 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: be a slow week, to be honest, but now we've 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: got the rain coming in a little bit of a damper. 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: Crystal Ball is back, Democratic strategist, the Rising co host, 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: she's co host of The Rising on the Hill TV 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: and Doug High, Republican strategist, former r n C Coms 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: director and former deputy chief of staff to Eric Canner. 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: But before we do all of that, Martin de Caroll, busy, 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: busy headline day, what's up? That's right, Kevin? And Senate 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: the Joy Leader Mitch mc donald deliver that message today 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: at a private meeting, saying the President should hold off 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: on the tariffs until he can personally talk with Republicans. 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,279 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz was in that lunch meeting. I understand 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: that the President is frustrated with congressional Democrats refusing to 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: do their job or to do anything to fix this crisis. 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: That being said, this is the wrong solution to the crisis. 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: High level Mexican delegation has been at the White House 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: this afternoon seeking a compromise. Sources tell Bloomberg that before 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: the tariff threat, Mexico had agreed with the US to 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: detain a specific number of undocumented migrants, as many as 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: eight hundred per day, but illegal crossing surged. The presidents 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: in Ireland meeting for the first time, it's Prime Minister 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Leo Varat Carr and he made some puzzling remarks about 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: the possibility of a no deal Brexit, which would mean 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: the return of checkpoints along the border between the north 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: and south of Ireland. Trump said Ireland would have nothing 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: to fear under that scenario and left some very good 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: people that are very much involved with brex as you know, 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: and I think that will all work out. It will 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: all work out very well. And also for me with 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: your law, your border. The Irish leader jumped in to 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: tell Trump that his government is anxious to avoid a 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: border as a result of Brexit. Tomorrow, President Trump goes 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to France to take part in commemorations for the seventy 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of the D Day invasion of Normandy. Negotiations 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: between House Democrats and the Justice Department over the Mola 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: Report could be in trouble again. Democrats say they won't 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: cancel a vote to hold Attorney General William Barne contempt 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: as a condition for renewing talks to obtain the Special 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Counsel's full report. The House is scheduled that contempt vote 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: next Tuesday, after weeks of refusals by bar to comply 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: with the subpoena. Those refusals and other issues or why 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: many Democrats are pressuring Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, to 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: begin impeachment proceedings, but she says she's not feeling that pressure. 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: As we hear from Bloomberg's Earth Chapman, she said she 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: understands the impatience, but she supports Judiciary Committee efforts to 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: obtain testimony and documents while the House passes its bills, 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: including permanent residents for people brought to this country as children. 73 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: There's great grief and sadness and pain in our country 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: about the behavior of this president. You can impeach and 75 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: it's an indictment. You want to make sure you have 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: the strongest indictment alo, She said. Too many Americans think 77 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: of the president is impeached by the House of Representatives, 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: he's out of the White House. But that's not the 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: way it works on Capitol Hill or Chapman Boomberg Gradio. 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: The Trump administration announced it will end medical research by 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: government scientists using human fetal tissue. That's despite please from 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: scientists who say some health problems can't be studied any 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: other way. Research using fetal tissue that otherwise would have 84 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: been discarded after an abustion has been funded by the 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: government for decades, and the administration also announced it will 86 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: stop reimbursing some contracted shelters for the cost of teaching 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: immigrant children being held in the United States English language 88 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: courses and providing legal services and recory asianal activities like soccer. 89 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: It's time now for the Beltway Business Report, wrapping up 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: the day on Wall Street Live to Bloomberg's Larry Kowski 91 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: and Martin hopes that tariffs on Mexican imports will not materialize. 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Extended Wall Streets rally. The Dow Jones Industrial average picked 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: up another two hundred seven points the S and P 94 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: five hundred added twenty two and as that composite rose. 95 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: Economic growth improved in recent weeks and the business outlook 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: remains solidly positive that according to the Fed's latest Beige Book, 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: but tariffs are slowdown and manufacturing and struggles and agriculture 98 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: are clouding the outlook. In some Fed districts, private employers 99 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: hit the brakes on hiring in May and in just 100 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven thousand workers. The latest report from a d 101 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: P came in weaker than expected. The Institute for Supply 102 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: Management says u S service business has expanded in May 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: at the quickest pace ins February. Its Service Sector Index 104 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: top expectations. V AT Chrysler and Rene are closer to 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: a merger. Reuter's reports. VAT Chrysler has a tentative deal 106 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: with France on terms of a deal as there are 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: no board continues to meet. The Bloomberg Washington d C. 108 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: Area Stock Index game nine tenths of one percent Europe 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: to date. On business from the Beltway to Baltimore. I'm 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: Larry Kowsky. This is Bloomberg one and one oh five 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: point seven f m HD two. Thanks Larry at NAT's Park. 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: Today the Nationals blew a four one lead, but wound 113 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: up beating the White Sox six to four. Global News 114 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day on airon at TikTok, on Twitter, 115 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: powered by more than twenty d journalists and analysts in 116 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: more than a hundred twenty countries. I'm Martin Decarro, Kevin, 117 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Martin. Busy day. It's been a really busy week. Wednesday, 118 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: We're almost halfway through the week. We got an all 119 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: star panel to help us navigate through the Republican Party 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: is divided, divided on these issue of tariffs. Instead a 121 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: majority or Mitch McConnell really breaking the silence today coming 122 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: out and saying, Mr President, please please deal with the 123 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Republican Party before or before you raise those tariffs on Mexico. 124 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: I'll read from my colleague Jenny Leonard and Jennifer Jacobs 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: on the Bloomberg terminal. They say, send a majority leader. 126 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell told administration officials that President Trump should hold 127 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: off on imposing tariffs on Mexico until he can personally 128 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: make his argument to Republicans in Congress. They go on 129 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: to report that McConnell has warned the White House that 130 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Trump can't take the GOP support for granted, Doug High, 131 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: he's the top Republican strategist. He's the former cost director 132 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: to Senate Majority Leader Eric Cantor, as well as that 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: our former deputy chief of staff to Canner, former r 134 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: n C Comps director, and Crystal Ball Democratic strategist. She's 135 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: also a co host on The Hill TVs. Rising two 136 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: All Stars in the Game, Crystal, I mean, as a Democrat, 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: it's like he the president, no offense, he's not even 138 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: trying to negotiate with the Dems. Is all about Republicans. Yeah, 139 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it's a little hard for me as 140 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: a Democrat because I don't really trust any of these people. 141 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: President says he's not It's hard to sort through, right. 142 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: The President says he's not bluffing. What does that mean? 143 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: We don't know. The Republicans say this time they're really 144 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna hold his feet to the fire. What does that mean? 145 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: We don't know. They've sort of threatened at a number 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: of times, have never really come through with it. But look, 147 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: they're looking at this could really hurt their constituents. Many 148 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: of them have not supported tariffs in the past. This 149 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: is a whole new world for them with this president. 150 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: So will they actually try to talk him down from 151 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: the ledge we'll see and and so many of these 152 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: these voters I agree with I think all of that. 153 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: So many of these voters are voters who are otherwise 154 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: very pro trump um and they're nervous about the impacts 155 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: that's going to have. This if you're you know, in 156 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: agriculture in Iowa, which is a big part of Iowa, 157 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: and northeastern part of North Carolina, which is which is 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: a big deal. You know, terariffs whether you're talking China 159 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: or Mexico, are something that make these voters very nervous. 160 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: And it's also I think, you know, we focus so 161 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: much on the all popular Trump within the Republican Party 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: that we all we sometimes misubscribed that for being all powerful. 163 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: This is an area voters who are Republican members who 164 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: stand up to Trump so to speak, tend to get 165 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: shot down. But if you speak up on specific issues, 166 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: I think your voters will give you a lot of 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: leeway on that, especially if if they feel that you're 168 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: acting in their behalf. You know, this latest thing on 169 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: on tariffs with Mexico, I think is a really good 170 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: example of the President Trump is in Ireland following a 171 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: three day state visit to the UK. He made some 172 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: public comment about those terriff threats on Mexico. Here's the 173 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: President of the United States. Mexico can stop that. They 174 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: have to stop it, otherwise that we just won't be 175 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: able to do business. It's a very simple thing. Meanwhile, 176 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: how Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked about it during a weekly 177 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: press conference, responding to the threat of tariffs against Mexico. 178 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Here's the Speaker of the House. This is dangerous territory. 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: This is not a way to treat a friend. It's 180 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: not a way to deal with immigration. And you know, Crystal, 181 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I I spoke with Congressman HAAKEM. Jeffrey's for Bloomberg Television 182 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: earlier today. I'll play a part of it coming up 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: later on in the program. He's a member of them, 184 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: aocratic leadership at Democrat congressman in the in the city 185 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: of New York City and uh the City of New 186 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: York City, keV. He's a Democrat from New York And 187 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: I was saying to him, you know, you know, do 188 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: you want to get U S M c A done? 189 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: And they want to get it done. But It's almost 190 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: like this is like pouring some political gasoline on a 191 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: very contentious issue. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of 192 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: sense because they seemed like they were actually pretty close 193 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: getting U. S. M c A done. Now this is 194 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: really thrown a wrench into that. And look, I am 195 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: not like I am not someone who has been opposed 196 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: to all of the tariffs. I actually think that the 197 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: President has put trade in the national conversation in a 198 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: way that I have to admit has been important and powerful. 199 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: I've supported some of what he's done with China. This 200 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: particular move when you're talking about in Mexico, when you're 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: talking about immigration, when you're talking about one of our 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: closest friends, it's sort of like you get a tariff, 203 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you get a tariff, you get a tariffs, and it 204 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: starts to lose some of its hour. It doesn't make sense, 205 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: and it's counterproductive if you want Mexico really partnering with 206 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: you on immigration and having fewer people come across the border. 207 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: You want to strengthen their economy, not hurt them. Yeah, 208 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: and I think there's here's part of the problem for 209 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: Trump is you have to competing interests here that speak 210 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: to why Donald Trump was was ultimately nominated and elected. 211 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: One is Donald Trump the great deal maker? Well, if 212 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: we if we don't get this deal, it's hard for 213 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: him to make that case. But at the same time, 214 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: immigration was, you know, a real rallying cry for him. 215 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: So so he's really caught an advice here to some 216 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: extent of his own making. Um And I'd agree with 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: Crystal a lot of you know, for the past thirty years, 218 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: Republican presidents, UM, Democratic presidents have not really talked tough 219 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and certainly didn't fight tough. Trump is doing things differently 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: on trade, and a lot of that I support until 221 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: it comes to terrorists. You know, it's fascinating. Is and 222 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Crystal really does have her finger on the pulse of 223 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the populace trade movement. Is because Crystal has identified Doug 224 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: the areas of the left and the right that that 225 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: do agree on the issue of trade. And you know, 226 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: when I when I talk to people in Warren's political 227 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: orbit or Bernie Sanders political orbit, it comes down to 228 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: those seventy thousand voters. We always talk about them on 229 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: this show in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Iowa. That really, I mean, 230 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: you don't I love the Bloomberg Terminal, and I look 231 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: at the commodity prices of and futures of how agriculture 232 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: is training. But you talk to farmers, they know, they 233 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: know precisely how these how these agricultural commodities are trading, 234 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: because it impacts their bottom line. And that's why Senate 235 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee Arman Chuck Grassley, Republican from Iowa. We had 236 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: Joni arts On earlier in the week, but Chuck Grassley 237 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: has been out both force about this. Here's Senator here, 238 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: Senator Chuck Rassley, a Republican from Iowa. We think tariffs 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: in this instance are burning the chances they get in U. S. 240 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: M c A. So they don't like them. Crystal. Yeah. 241 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about a state that has really 242 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: been hit hard, and not just down trade. I mean 243 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: the weather has been so brutal, these floods, which of 244 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: course you know, climate change plays apart in you've got 245 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: the trade issue you already had through industry consolidation, farmer 246 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: incomes down overnthin past eight years. I mean, you're talking 247 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: about farmers suicides up. This is a massive problem in 248 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: the state of Iowa. And at the same time, when 249 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: you talk about Kevin. The politics here. You've got a 250 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: few Midwestern states who have watched their towns be utterly 251 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: decimated by globalization. And I would say also automation, things 252 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: like NAFTA, which is what U. S m c A 253 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: is now supposed to be replacing. That was a really 254 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: important issue in this election that Democrats were on the 255 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: wrong side of and that Trump picked up on an 256 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: understood Now he's in danger of blowing up that promise. Meanwhile, 257 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: as Doug pointing out, on the immigration front, he's failed. 258 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers keep going up and up and up. 259 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: You're the guy in charge, you had the Republican House, 260 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: you had the Republicans sen it, and he hasn't been 261 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: able to deliver on the promise of I am going 262 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: to get the border under control. Yeah. I think for 263 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: Trump to some extent, he doesn't need to deliver on 264 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: that promise as long as he keeps promising it. Um. 265 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, the numbers being up make it more of 266 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: an emergency for Donald Trump to talk about um and 267 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: ultimately politically that benefits him. But to Crystal's point, he 268 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: has to he has to show some results at some 269 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: point on something, and that's been a real problem for him, 270 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and again, if you can't get a trade deal through, 271 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: well then you're not the great dealmaker and that that's 272 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: really hard for him. I think moving forward, Warren wants 273 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: to unionize your campaign. Bernie Sanders is hanging out at Walmart. 274 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Coming up much more policy and politics, and we check 275 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: in with how came Jeffreys and turn the hood to 276 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: congressman a Democrat and a Republican. You can download the 277 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Sounds On Podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, 278 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also 279 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: check us out on Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, 280 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: and Spotify. Crystal Ball stays, Doug high stays, I'm Kevin 281 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: CEREALI alsta around. You're listening to Bloomberg Now. This is 282 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin's Really on Bloomberg one and one 283 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: oh five point seven f M h D two Baltimore. 284 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, and there's you two. It's a great song. 285 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin's Really, Chief Washington correspondent, FRO Bloomberg TV, Bloomberg Radio. 286 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Doug highs here, Republican strategist, Cristal Ball, Democratic strategists, co 287 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: host of The Rising on the Hill, TV. What's been 288 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: going on with the rising? Oh, all kinds of stuff. 289 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: We had an interview today with the Surgeon General vaping 290 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: and marijuana and all kinds of what are you gonna do? 291 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I go to Gregory, I go to Gregory's 292 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: coffee and and the CBD latte sou and I'm like, 293 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: is this against the wall as manyor bows are gonna 294 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: go away as mayor bows are gonna like swoop in 295 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: on a scooter with a paper strong and be like, 296 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: get this CBD lots out? What did you say? He 297 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: is very, very opposed to marijuana legalization. He has health concerns, 298 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: public health concerns, and says he buys into the whole 299 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: gateway drug thing, which I think is nonsense, but that's 300 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: his What about CBD, it's like a whole, It's like 301 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: a whole. I think you're okay with that, But they 302 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, now, I'm just saying, in case you did, 303 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: I think they think that stuff is good for everything 304 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: that it can't possibly be good for all the things 305 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: that they say it's good for. I'm still waiting for 306 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: the medical use of tobacco other than when you get 307 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: a be sting you rub it on your You did 308 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: this as a kid, right, you rubbed you rubbed this 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: cigarette on your wrist where Eve got stung. And it's 310 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: when Coca Cola was literally the answered everything that was 311 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: my mom's medicine for everything that ailed us. But also 312 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: if we could just have this entire town not smell 313 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: like pot for just like a week, like maybe one 314 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: d C can't smell like posh. Alright, switching back to terriffs, 315 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: Tariffs are going to you be impacting to all of this. 316 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Actually I wanted we were talking about terris, but I 317 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: don't want to pay it back to impeachment because there's 318 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: all this chatter about impeachment. Uh. And we're gonna hear 319 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: coming up from Congressman HAAKEM. Jeffreys later on in the 320 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: program What's By asked him about impeachment in U S. 321 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: M C and all of that, and we'll hear from him. 322 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: But on the issue of impeachment, Crystal, I'm curious for 323 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: your cake because they're marching down this path. And and 324 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Speaker Pelosi earlier today at a press conference, she said that, uh, 325 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: that they're following a path that that most Americans do 326 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: think that impeachment means we're moving from office. I'm like, 327 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't think most Americans actually think that. But I 328 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: think a lot of us lived through the nineties, even 329 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: if we were kids. And but but your thoughts on 330 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: on impeachment and where things stand, all right? So I 331 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: think the bottom line is I think impeachment. Moving forward 332 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: with impeachment would be a disaster, And the reason for 333 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: that is not necessarily the politics, which I think are 334 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: more complicated than people say. I mean, Pelosi reportedly believes 335 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: will Dems will lose the House and lose the presidenc 336 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: if we move forward impeachment. I don't know if that's 337 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: right or not. My problem is that I believe the 338 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: problem with Trump is much bigger than Trump. I think 339 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: the problem is Trump is um, the right wing populism 340 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: that has swept not just our country but the globe. 341 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: This is not an isolated phenomenon. I think impeachment is 342 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: a so so like an okay way to deal with 343 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: Trump and an absolute catastrophic disaster. In terms of dealing 344 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: with Trump is um. And oh, by the way, we 345 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: already know what the outcome is going to be. The 346 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: Senate is not going to convict So why would you 347 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: engage in a political exercise that you know is going 348 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: to end in failure. Yeah, and I think I think 349 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: it's a disaster for for different reasons. So I agree 350 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: with that. UM One is, you know, having worked in 351 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives during UM there was kind of 352 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: the gleeful jumping on board on all things Clinton impeachment 353 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: if you're a Republican, and the result wasn't great for Republicans. 354 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: So I would caution my Democratic friends on that. UM. 355 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I think the smart thing for Pelosi and the Democrats 356 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: to do, if they can pull it off, is to 357 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: ride this as far as they can until you get 358 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: to let's say a year from now, you know, right 359 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: about before the August recess break, and say we can't. 360 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: We can't do any impeachment now, that would be too 361 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: political in an election season. You've made your case, but 362 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: don't do it. But me while you know, people want 363 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: to impeach this president. People wanted to impeach Obama, some 364 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: Democrats wanted to peach Bush like and obviously impeach Clinton. 365 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: It seems like that's almost the remedy now for everything. 366 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's a very dangerous precedent. You know, 367 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: we live in a perpetual election cycle and an outrage cycle. Yeah, well, 368 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: and every and everything feels existential. And I would say, look, look, 369 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to pretend like Trump is the same 370 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: as all those other people and we just impeach everybody. 371 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: I do think that there's something different about what is 372 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: happening with this president and with the movement behind him, 373 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: because I think he is much weaker than the movement 374 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: that then that supports him, and that's what concerns me. 375 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: But I do believe that impeachment is a very poor 376 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: remedy and counterproductive remedy to deal with. I agree with everything. Well, 377 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I just think that's such a powerful closis. Ball Crystal 378 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: Ball's back and she said that President Trump is weaker 379 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: than the movement that supports Wow. That was I mean, 380 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm not saying about this well same, I mean, this 381 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: is all I do. I had no life. Here's Speaker 382 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Pelosi earlier day at the press conference talking about impeachment. Well, 383 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: you know exactly what path we're on, we know exactly 384 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: what actions we need to take. Okay, Well, that may 385 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: take more time than some people wanted to take. I 386 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: respect their impatience, but do you But but seriously, do 387 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: you think that Speaker Pelosi knows what path like? Do you, 388 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: as a Democrat, as someone who knows every Democrat in 389 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: the progressive movement, do you believe that all of those 390 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: progressives feel that they know the path that Speaker Pelosi 391 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: is leading them down? Because I gotta be honest, based 392 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: on my reporting and the people that I talked to, 393 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: a lot of them are like, we don't know what 394 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: the we don't know what. Okay, N's like, what what 395 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: are we doing? I think that she has been very 396 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: clear that she feels that impeachment is the wrong move 397 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: and that moving forward with investigations is the right way 398 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: to go, but don't call them impeachment, which I think 399 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: is what Hakim Jeffrey's has been saying. It might have 400 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: been told, you, might have told you, and they interview 401 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna um run later In the specifics, though, yeah, 402 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: I think we probably need some more clarity, like how 403 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: do we deal with the fact that they're just ignoring subpoenas, 404 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: How do you actually move forward with getting some of 405 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: these details in front of American people when the administration 406 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: is just going to stone wall you at every turn. 407 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: All right, coming up Congressman Darren LaHood. He is a 408 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Republican representing Illinois. Crystal Ball sticks around Doug high Stays. 409 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: You can download the Sound Dog podcast on Apple iTunes, 410 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 411 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: You can also check us out on Radio dot com, 412 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm Kevin CERELLI thank you 413 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: for listening to Bloomberg. This is Sound On with Kevin's 414 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: really on Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven 415 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: of m h D two. Boltemore. Congressman Darren la Hood 416 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: a Republican from Illinois. He's a member of the Ways 417 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: and Means Committee. We're talking tariffs, we're talking trade. He's 418 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: joins us on the telephone line. Congressman LaHood, thanks for 419 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: joining us. I appreciate at it. I take it that 420 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: you don't like what the President is doing with tariff 421 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: threats against Mexico. Why not, well, Kevin, thanks for having 422 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: me on. Good to be with you and your listeners. Listen. 423 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: In general, I am not a fan of tariffs, pariffs 424 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: or taxes, their taxes on consumers, their taxes on businesses. 425 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I represent represented district in Central West Central Illinois. That 426 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: is the eighth largest agg district in the country. We 427 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: also have the largest concentration of caterpillar workers, So manufacturing 428 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: an agg is vitally important. Uh and and tariffs are 429 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: are having a negative effect on both of those industries. However, 430 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: I do think that, um, the President is trying to 431 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: use tariffs in a narrowly tailored way to get the 432 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: Chinese to stop their behavior. They have been ripping us 433 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: off for twenty five years on technology, ripping off our 434 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: intellectual property, stealing our military secrets, and and enough is enough. 435 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: So I it's a fine line that the President is 436 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: nap a gating right now. UM. But I will tell 437 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: you this, My farmers have expressed a lot of anxiety 438 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: and uneasiness with the tariffs, but they have not abandoned 439 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: the President. They want what's best for America. They're very patriotic, UH, 440 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: and they want us to win the war with China 441 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: when it comes to technology. So when you get back 442 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: to what that, this is what I find so fascinating. Congressman, 443 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: and you know this better than anybody, especially when you're 444 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: you're like ground zero for these tariffs and the impact 445 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: that they're having, not just in the agricultural sector, but 446 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: also for caterpillar workers and folks who are working on 447 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: widgets and and zip zip lining all across the world. 448 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: But when you take it to the U. S and 449 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: U S, m c A Front and Mexico and Canada 450 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 1: and the presidents threatening to increase tariffs on Mexico, farmers 451 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: don't want that. And I look, the polls agree with you. 452 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: The farmers are sticking by politically with President Trump and 453 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: on the issue of issue of policy. I mean, so 454 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: many of these farmers they've just been absolutely pummeled, pummeled 455 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: by the uncertainty of these tariffs. So how do you 456 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: get the presidents here, how do you pull them aside 457 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: in the oval and say, hey, you know what, sir, 458 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: these terrants it's not making things easier. Well, listen, that's 459 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: that's a constant conversation that I've been fortunate to have 460 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: with the President and his trade team. And he's got 461 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: a good team around him. Ambassador Leightheiser is very, very 462 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: capable when it comes to trade policy, and and so 463 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: we've been we've been constantly in those negotiations. But remember, 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: we have one of the strongest economies going in the 465 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: world right now. You know, you look at Europe, they 466 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: have a growth rate about one percent. We're at three 467 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: point two percent, you know, so we've benefited from a 468 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: strong economy. But what I've said to the President his 469 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: trade team is we shoot ourselves in the foot we 470 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: go backwards after all the progress we've made with tax reform, 471 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: with regulatory relief, if we go backwards with trade, and 472 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: that's what I worry about long term. Uh. You know, 473 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: we are a country that is only four and a 474 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: half percent of the world's population. We need customers, we 475 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: need market share around the world. So listen, I think 476 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: the President has a narrow runway here to kind of 477 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: land the plane when it comes to U. S. M 478 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: c A when it comes to trade with China. Um. 479 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: But listen, he's he's made a lot of very good 480 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: decisions thus far. Uh, and we just got to make 481 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: sure that we get this right in the end. So 482 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: bottom line, do you think with the president? And I 483 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: know you're busier, This will be my last question for you, 484 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you coming on, But do you think 485 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: that what the President is doing does it hurt or 486 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: hint or does it help or hurt the chances of 487 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: getting U. S m c A and getting Speaker Pelosi 488 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: to agree to have a vote on U s m 489 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: c A with these terrorists a hurt or help it? Well, 490 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: I think uh, I think it's premature to make that decision, Kevin, 491 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that, And I don't mean 492 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: to punt on the question, but it's okay. Wouldn't be 493 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: the first time the politicians dodgem Congressman, I'll be honest 494 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: going well, but but but listen, uh, listen, the President 495 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: is frustrated. We have a humanitarian crisis on our border. 496 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: Right we continue to have migrants and people that don't 497 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: abide by the law, and the Mexicans have not done 498 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: what they said they were gonna do. So listen. As 499 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: I said in the beginning, I'm not a fan of tariffs. 500 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: Tariffs should not be used. But uh, if it's a 501 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: leverage point to get them to change their behavior, that's 502 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: a good thing. So if come Monday morning, the President's 503 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: implementing five percent tariffs, I'm not going to be supportive 504 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: of that, and I think there'll be a lot in 505 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: Congress that won't be And to your question, yes that 506 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: hurts U s m c A. This is a good agreement. 507 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: A third of the products we grow producer manufacturer in 508 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Illinois in my district go to mex to our Canada. 509 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: You look at the twenty four chapters that have been 510 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: put forth in this agreement, it is positive. This is 511 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: good on substance and on merit. We need this trade agreement. 512 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I I understand the President's frustration, but it's 513 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: a reflection I think of many of us that cannot 514 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: get the Democrats to come forth and come up with 515 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: a solution on how we stop people from illegally coming 516 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: across our southern border. Congressman Dare in the Hood, a 517 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Republican from Illinois Battleground zero of the tariff tariff issue. 518 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: He's also I didn't know this. I'm a runner to Congressman, 519 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: you've run five marathons. I have. I'm proud of that 520 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: now that was I just turned fifty this year. I 521 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: haven't done one in a while, so my my hips 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: don't work like they used to. But ab and runner, 523 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: what's the best? Men? What's there? Where? Where did you 524 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: do the marathons? What was your favorite marathon that you did? Yeah? 525 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: So I did five. I did the Chicago Marathon twice 526 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: in the Las Vegas Marathon, I did New York City 527 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: and I did Marine Corps. My best time was three twenty, 528 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: which was New York City Marathon. Wow, that's good. Okay, 529 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: final question, and I know your your stat's gonna be like, 530 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: oh gosh, but did you see this? Chuck Grassley gave 531 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: an interview to the Post and he says he runs 532 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: two's faster you were, Chuck Grassley. Well, you know what, 533 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I think I can beat Chuck Grassley considering he's eighty 534 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: five and I just turned so that that made me 535 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: a challenge Kevin that I'm putting out on the air 536 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: right now. Wow. I love it. All right, Congressman, thank you, 537 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: Hope I didn't get you in trouble with Chuck. All right, 538 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: coming up, more fallout from terras. Panel stays they're reacting 539 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: Doug High Crystal Ball and I'm Kevin Cereally you're listening 540 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. This is sound On with Kevin's really on 541 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: Bloomberg N one and one oh five point seven f 542 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: M H D two Boltimore. I'm Kevin's really Chief Washington 543 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You can check 544 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: out our full interview with Congressman Hakim Jefferies, a rising 545 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: star within the Democratic Party. He represents the Democrats in 546 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: New York City. It aired on Bloomberg Television and now 547 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: play a portion of it for you now where he 548 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: talks about impeachment. Here's Hakeem Jefferies. Well, in my view, 549 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: we should consent to continue to UH proceed with our 550 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: investigation and how Judiciary Committee has indicated that they will 551 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: conduct herrings on obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and 552 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: the culture of corruption that appears to exist at Pennsylvania Avenue. 553 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: That is the correct approach at the time. We should 554 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: be guided by the Constitution at the end of the day, 555 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: and we are in fact gathering mode. Once we gather 556 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: all of the facts, which will include the unredacted Mueller Report, 557 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: the underlying documentation, and securing the public testimony of Bob Mueller, 558 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: then we'll be in a better situation to decide how 559 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: to proceed. You still think you can get Muller testify publicly, 560 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: and my view, Bob should testify publicly. UH. This is 561 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: an incredibly significant investigation that he presided over. It lasted 562 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: for twenty two months. He produced a comprehensive report over 563 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: four hundred pages and millions of taxpayer dollars were spent 564 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: to do it. We now need to hear from Bob 565 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Mauler on U S m c A or not to 566 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: two point out it sounds like you want to get 567 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: to it, yes, but this tariff talk is making it 568 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: more difficult for Democrats to get on board as our 569 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: environmental protections and worker protections well. Trump's radic behavior as 570 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: it relates to tariffs have made things more difficult for 571 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: the americ consumer. These tariffs are a tax on everyday Americans, 572 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: working families, middle class folks, senior citizens, and could cost 573 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: upward of eight hundred dollars per American family should he 574 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: go through with these reckless threats. That's a problem in 575 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: and of itself, uh for the entire economy. With respect 576 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: to the U. S m c A, House, Democrats, led 577 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: by Speaking Pelosi, have consistently said, we want to get 578 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: to yes, but we need to see greater labor and 579 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: environmental standards, as well as an enforceability mechanism, particularly as 580 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: it relates to Mexico, to ensure that those standards can 581 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: be brought to life. Do you want to be Speaker 582 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: of the House, Governor of New York, Senator of New 583 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: York or mayor of New York City. I have the 584 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: greatest job in the world right now, which is you 585 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: got to give me something of the House Democratic Caucus. 586 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: And I'm committed to the institution of the House. And 587 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: what I've learned is that you've got to focus on 588 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: the job that you have, do that job to the 589 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: best of your ability, and the rest will take care 590 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: of itself. So well said Hockey Jeffreys. Focus on the 591 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: job you have and do it to the best of 592 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: your ability. Do with gratitude, I would add Doug High, 593 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: Republican strategist, Crystal Ball, Democratic strategist, Doug, you were saying, 594 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you don't buy that you think he's got his eye 595 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: what what's he got his eye on? Well, I don't 596 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: know what he has his eye on. But let's face it, 597 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: being a just a member of Congress is not the 598 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: best job in the way, not even the best job 599 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: in Washington. Capitol Hill is a bad workplace. It is 600 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: a terrible workplace. Speaker may be amazing, but you hate 601 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: your existence almost every day because of what you have 602 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: to do. I am an optimist and I like to 603 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: believe Crystal ball that these lawmakers, I would hopefully say 604 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: most of them either party, believe that they have a 605 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: good job. Right. But you think he's got his eye 606 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: on something else. Of course he does. Yeah, he may 607 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: have his eye on a few something else's right, and 608 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: see how the political winds shake up. But Kim Jeffrey, 609 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he does a very good job, did a 610 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: nice job in an interview with you. He walks a lot, 611 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: and he knows how to he knows what to say 612 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: and how to say it. He's gone places. Verry arrived places, 613 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: all right, who's going places? I gotta say I am 614 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: becoming more and more of a believer. And Elizabeth Warren, 615 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: we were talking to the break. She had a massive 616 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: catastrophic mistake with the whole Native American thing that was 617 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: really devastating. But let's you know what I'm talking about. 618 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: But but she has really impressed me with just how 619 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: she has done her thing. I mean, this is a 620 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: woman who has spent her career looking at the financial 621 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: trouble that families get into and thinking about what we 622 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: could do about that, and she just put out this 623 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: big economic patriotism framework with their first sort of big 624 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: climate change initiative it looks very much like the Green 625 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: New Deal, but pretty smart and thorough, And to me 626 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: it is the first real response on the left to 627 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: Trump is m so um, she's climbing in the polls. 628 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: By bet, I'm impressed. Did you guys see this with 629 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders? Did you did you see this at Bernie 630 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: Sanders when he went to show up at Walmart? So so, 631 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders shows up unannounced, unannounced at Walmart's annual 632 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: shareholders meaning in Arkansas, Arkansas. First of all, I didn't 633 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: know Walmart in Arkansas, and he criticized the retail giant 634 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: over workers wages. Here, Senator Bernie Sanders at Walmart, despite 635 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: the incredible wealth of OTSNA, Walmart pays many of its 636 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: employees starvation wages. Doug, I gotta be honest. The headline 637 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: risk out of Washington, d C. Now you've got like 638 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: twenty some Democratic presidential candidates. Every CEO in America is 639 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: watching Arkansas and Walmart and Bernie Sanders, and they're like, 640 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, bunker down, who's coming to our shareholder meetings? Yes? Yes, yes, 641 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: and no. So you know, I think what Bernie did 642 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: was a smart but b also shows how politics have 643 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: really changed in the past couple of years, where you 644 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: can't just say that you're fighting, but you have to fight, 645 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: and you have to demonstrate that you're fighting. But the 646 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: other is and it didn't get much attention. Trump went 647 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: after a T and T this week, and a T 648 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: and T just kind of yawned a year and a 649 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: half ago. That wouldn't have happened. It didn't affect its 650 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: share price. Nothing really happened, and that to me is 651 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: really significant. I just wanted two things on Bernie Sanders. 652 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: First of all, what Doug said is a percent right. 653 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: He has really kind of pioneered this model of using 654 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: his campaign not just as a campaign, but as an 655 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: organizing tool. I mean, calling leveraging his lists and supporters 656 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: to show up for union strikes. Right, these aren't things 657 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: that have been done before. He has a unionized campaign, 658 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: and this move with Walmart was quintessential Bernie. He already, 659 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: let's not forget, shamed Amazon into raising their wages to 660 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars an hour. So he has had some success 661 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: in calling these corporations on the carpet and actually getting 662 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: them to make changes. Yeah, I mean, I think ultimately 663 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: part of that is, he didn't just make a statement 664 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: put out a press release. He was physically there, which 665 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: drew a lot of camera attention in a way that 666 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't if you do a stake out in front 667 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: of the you know, capital or something like that. And 668 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: that of attitude that Bernie brings the things is one 669 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: of the reasons that he's successful. He's not just a 670 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: Kennedy's a cause. Have you got like a minute left? 671 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: What did you guys think of the state dinner with 672 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: the Queen and Trump and the first family. I thought 673 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: it was nice. I thought it got a lot of 674 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: crystal balls rolling. I'm going to defer to Doug. I 675 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: thought it went about as well as it could have. 676 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I thought I didn't think it was Did you guys 677 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: see this thing? This is different fight. Did you see 678 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: this thing about how the queen uses her purse to 679 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: signal like yeah, so she sets her purse down on 680 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: the table. That means she wants to leave within five minutes. 681 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: If she does this like turn thing, which as a 682 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: former staffer I'm sure Dick can relate to, it means 683 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: she's in a boring conversation. She wants her stabbers to 684 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: like pull her out of this is all Yeah, seventy 685 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: years oponing this What is Eric Canner's code word from 686 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: when he wanted to get out of the situation? So 687 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: really so okay, I mean I did this with my friends. 688 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: Were like we would all have code words like remember 689 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: like oh if you want to leave, or like dodge. No, 690 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: no one did that, just me. No. I you know 691 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: you do the tap on the top of your head. Yeah, 692 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: you can usually tell just looking at the face. But 693 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: the queen is a purse. I didn't know this. The 694 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: queen has a purse and if she moves her purse 695 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: a certain way, that means get her out of there? 696 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: Mega Marco, Where's Mega Markel? Get her out of there? 697 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: All right? You can download the sound on podcast at 698 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the 699 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. You can also check us out as 700 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: well as Tom Keene and my Talented Talented colleagues on 701 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: Spotify Radio dot com, as well as I Heart Radio, 702 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: Crystal Ball Democratic Strategist. She also is a co host 703 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: of The Rising on the Hill TV, What What's the 704 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Website Hill dot Tv and Doug High, former comms director 705 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: for the r n C deputy chief of staff for 706 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Eric Cancer and the Republican Strategists. And that's it for me. 707 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and Bloomberg Radier. 708 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: There in recess for the rest of the week, but 709 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: the Mexico delegation meeting here talking trade, talking tariffs. Thank 710 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: you to HACKEM Jefferies, thank you to Darren the Hood. 711 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: That's it. You're listening. It's Bloomberg ninety nine one h