WEBVTT - How Wastewater Treatment Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryan over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry just ghosted us like a catfish. The bank

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<v Speaker 1>is how they put it, and uh, that of course

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<v Speaker 1>makes the Stuff you Should Know from the abyss. How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing, man, I'm just doing great. Everything is totally normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything feels comfortable and fun, so I'm good. How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you done anything really weird in the last two weeks? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a more legit question would be, what have

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<v Speaker 1>I not done that's that's weird? What's the weirdest thing

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<v Speaker 1>you've done? I'm trying to think like I shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>said anything, because I really haven't done anything that weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Have just been more like, um, I've developed this weird

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I guess it's indigestion, which I don't get.

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<v Speaker 1>I have like an iron constitution, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's because I've been pounding vitamins lately and they

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<v Speaker 1>keep lodging in this one spot in my esophagus. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a weird bend in there somewhere um, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I constantly feel like I've got some throw up

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting in the middle of my chest. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>new development. And I've noticed that when I don't take

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<v Speaker 1>vitamins it still happens. So I'm I'm kind of up

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<v Speaker 1>the creek on that respect. And I know that's not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything weird, but um, I mean, I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>aside from that and setting out box traps for coyotes

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<v Speaker 1>and then eating the coyotes when I catch them, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the two weirdest things, right, It's not bad. What

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<v Speaker 1>about you. I haven't really done anything weird. I shaved.

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<v Speaker 1>I shaved my head, but that was just because I

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<v Speaker 1>was bored and hot. Nice Britney spears. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. You know, usually do that once a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't done it in a few years for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. So, yeah, it has been a little while

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<v Speaker 1>you've been rocking the grown out stuff. I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about shaving my beard too, just for funzies, but oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think now is the time to

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<v Speaker 1>try these weird things where no one's gonna see you

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<v Speaker 1>for six weeks. Yeah. As a matter of fact, after

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<v Speaker 1>we get done recording, I have a date with you

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<v Speaker 1>me to go cut my hair because I've got the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID hair. It is really long, real, it's just out

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<v Speaker 1>of control. You know that point where when you grow

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<v Speaker 1>your finger nails out too far and they just turn

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<v Speaker 1>that corner. Well, you wouldn't know it because you bite

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<v Speaker 1>your fingernails, right. I quit biting my fingernails a while ago. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so so maybe you've experienced this. There's a point, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can It can happen within an hour where they're

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<v Speaker 1>just too close to being too long, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they turn this corner and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go like another minute with them being unclipped. They just

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<v Speaker 1>feel so gross all of a sudden. That's how my

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<v Speaker 1>hair feels right now. I think the corner of your

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<v Speaker 1>fingernails turn is called the tip of your finger start

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping around. Yeah, man, so, um, I guess we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>wastewater treatment then obviously with all this fingernail talk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta say, um, who did this one? Did

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<v Speaker 1>Ed put this together for us? Ed did this with

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<v Speaker 1>a high fever from what I understand, right, non non

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<v Speaker 1>COVID related, we should point out, Yeah, he was just sick.

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<v Speaker 1>He came through. He's doing Okay, he's on the mend

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<v Speaker 1>um but yeah, he he turned this in. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I I had a fever when I wrote this, So

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<v Speaker 1>it might not make that much sense, but it did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it did, But I do we should say

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<v Speaker 1>if you work in wastewater treatment. What I did find

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<v Speaker 1>out doing supplementary research was that there are clearly a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like there are almost fifteen thousand treatment plants

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, and they're clearly a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways to do it. Because I saw a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of other different stuff. So let's just say what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about is one way that it can go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll probably touch on some of the other ones

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<v Speaker 1>that you know people use, but there's just no way

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<v Speaker 1>we could cover everything. And the other thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw too, is there's a UM there's a real sentiment

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States, in particulars infrastructure for treating wastewater

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<v Speaker 1>UM is aging really rapidly, like we need to do

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<v Speaker 1>something about it soon. I saw some some some watched

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<v Speaker 1>all groups that we need to spend about two billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to upgrade our wastewater treatment around the country. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else has six billion, but everybody's saying, wait, wait, wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great because we're using really antiquated methods that work.

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<v Speaker 1>They work pretty well, but they're having a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>trouble keeping up with um. The jones with the Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is yes, because the jones is now. Because we live

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<v Speaker 1>amongst like plastic everywhere they poop and pee plastic, they

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<v Speaker 1>throw stuff in antibiotics into their toilets. There's like a

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<v Speaker 1>different world than the wastewater treatment plants where built to

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<v Speaker 1>to handle like in the in the early and mid

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. This is like a real opportunity to update

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<v Speaker 1>our infrastructure as we rebuild it. So hopefully we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>doing that hopefully. And you know what, two billion doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a lot of money. I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to hear a number like one trillion. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I would have thought too. I was actually kind of surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and looked, and now they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the wastewater treatment. So I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>I know that some of the technologies are very expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe they're saying to rebuild as is, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be two hundred and forty two six hundred billion, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to to implement some of them more high tech

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that that has come along in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that would be a little more high dollar. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's talk about low dollar, okay, by way of history,

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<v Speaker 1>because at the beginning of wastewater treatment, well you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even call it wastewater treatment, it was just calling It

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<v Speaker 1>was basically like how we dealt with wastewater. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>treating it at all. The very most rudimentary thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you still can see in places our outhouses and latrines,

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<v Speaker 1>which trine is just an outhouse or an outhouse is

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<v Speaker 1>just a little trine with a little a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of privacy involved. Yeah, and you know what, I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking up out houses. They're still around. There's like composting

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<v Speaker 1>toilets and urine diverters and all sorts of like hippie

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you can get into if you want. But one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I kept seeing was, you know, like there's always

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<v Speaker 1>like a crescent moon cut out on the outhouse. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen those. It's like almost synonymous with an outous.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks weird without one to me. So I looked

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<v Speaker 1>it up and it turns out that back in colonial times,

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<v Speaker 1>when um, there was a preliterate population. The crescent moon

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<v Speaker 1>indicated that the outhouse was for women, and a star

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<v Speaker 1>cutout indicated it was for men. The mystery from never

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<v Speaker 1>had any any idea. Yeah, I learned that visiting Mount Vernon.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a good place to learn that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And George Washington's just had a big cutout of a

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana leaf. He is only for him. Yeah, he'd come

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<v Speaker 1>home from working in the fields and Martha would have

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<v Speaker 1>a big bowl, big fat bowl waiting for him at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. Very nice. Uh So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about twentieth century, you would think like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but surely when we got to the twentieth century they

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<v Speaker 1>were really handling the sewage properly, not so at all. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, it was well into the twentieth century

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<v Speaker 1>when we still had suburbs with people living them in

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<v Speaker 1>them with no sewer connections and outhouses and this was

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of hard to believe, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>in more rural areas. But that even says suburbs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he made it sound like basically if you went into

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<v Speaker 1>like um, I don't know, uh, Dunwoodie or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a suburb of Atlanta. Okay, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>found out houses in the fifties, which maybe that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>a septic tank is really just kind of a fancy

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<v Speaker 1>ladrine pit. Yeah. But it's interesting too because in uh

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<v Speaker 1>like six b C. There were places that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because it seems like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>advanced thinking in ancient times that goes by the wayside

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<v Speaker 1>for just thousands of years and then it comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>But in what is now modern Syria, they actually had

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<v Speaker 1>drainage pipes and stuff that fed wastewater from the outhouses,

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<v Speaker 1>uh basically to the streets and rivers. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it was great, but it at least got it

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<v Speaker 1>out of there. They didn't have a lot of follow

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<v Speaker 1>through on their ideas. Great first idea, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, I just forget it after that pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, have you ever heard why things were like

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<v Speaker 1>possibly more advanced or very advanced early on and then

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<v Speaker 1>they went dark for a little while. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this before. It must have been the

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<v Speaker 1>Enlightenment episode, because it's them. It was the Dark Ages

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle Ages when the Church took over and basically

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<v Speaker 1>said science can can burn hell. Amazing, that works. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. And then the Enlightenment came along and said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>science is back everybody, and we started to have like

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<v Speaker 1>sewage treatment again, which I mean not coincidentally, that's around

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<v Speaker 1>the time we started taking sewage treatment seriously. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just that we like got a lot smarter all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden from the Enlightenment, which definitely was partially

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<v Speaker 1>the case, but there were way more people, and so

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<v Speaker 1>things like digging a hole in the ground, pooping and

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<v Speaker 1>peeing into it and then once it got full, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>burying it and digging another hole. UM methods like that

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<v Speaker 1>just became unsustainable. Or putting all of your sewage out

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<v Speaker 1>into the street, it became unsustainable just because there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many people. Yeah, and there was poop and p

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<v Speaker 1>literally everywhere in the streets and the rivers and the lakes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first um sort of pushed towards treating the

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<v Speaker 1>sewage was literally just because the smell. Eventually they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is terrible to live amongst. Maybe we could do something,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could throw some time or some charcoal or

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<v Speaker 1>some sawdust on this stuff, and at least and it

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<v Speaker 1>won't be safe, but we won't be like walking around gagging. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, at least there are some sawdust on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Some do something for God's sake. Sure, so they did

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<v Speaker 1>do that, right, Um, But that's still it still wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people were still just they they I think

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<v Speaker 1>in our Great Stink episode, Joseph basil Get was um

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<v Speaker 1>just revered as a saint basically for saving people by

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<v Speaker 1>you know, diverting um sewage into sewers away from people's

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<v Speaker 1>drinking water and stuff. But even still, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was also responsible for helping design some of the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>wastewater treatment plants. But um still around the time and

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<v Speaker 1>into the twentieth century, like there it was basically like

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<v Speaker 1>here's a sewer, and then we're just gonna make the

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<v Speaker 1>sewer come out downstream of our of our drinking water supply,

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<v Speaker 1>and then problem solved. Sorry for Shelbyville, but exactly chew

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<v Speaker 1>on it, Shelby Bill chew on our fecal matter. But

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<v Speaker 1>but that was kind of exactly what happened if you

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<v Speaker 1>were down river, downstream or you know, on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the lake from this area. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got their poop in your backyard and you didn't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>So eventually people started realizing that there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do to make water better and then put

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<v Speaker 1>it into rivers and lakes and streams and even the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean and seas. And that is basically where we're at

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<v Speaker 1>right now with wastewater treatment, which is we poop and

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<v Speaker 1>pee and we flushed stuff into the sewer, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff goes into a wastewater treatment plant. We do

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff to it, and then we put out slightly

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<v Speaker 1>better than sewage water into the rivers and lakes and

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<v Speaker 1>streams and and hope for the best. Yeah, that's right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the early things they also did was like

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<v Speaker 1>fled afield with wastewater. Uh. This allowed sedimentation, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the the feces basically settling, and then

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<v Speaker 1>actually the plants can help out. The plants take up

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<v Speaker 1>all that gross stuff as water that they used to

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<v Speaker 1>grow and it kind of traps it in there, which

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<v Speaker 1>is nice, But then you sell those plants to Shelbyville.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, But it still didn't change, It didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>anything less harmful. Uh. As far as bacteria goes. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why typhoid and cholera and everything was a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why wastewater maybe the biggest advancement in life

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<v Speaker 1>saving device like that in penicillin our neck, neck and neck.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, really, I mean, like just not being

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<v Speaker 1>around water that contains all sorts of harmful bacteria that

0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.840
<v Speaker 1>people pooped out. That's definitely going to improve your lifespan

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. And that that whole thing about putting sewage

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<v Speaker 1>onto a field and letting the plants deal with it

0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that's actually still around. That's like a that's a a

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<v Speaker 1>sensible way to treat sewage because not only do the

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<v Speaker 1>plan ants you know, take care of it, but as

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<v Speaker 1>it trickles down through the soil to the groundwater, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of microbes and minerals and all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>ions that pick up that harmful stuff and that actually

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<v Speaker 1>purifies the water. The problem is is once you get

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<v Speaker 1>too many people, which can happen really quickly, that that

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<v Speaker 1>soil and those plants get overwhelmed and a lot of

0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.840
<v Speaker 1>bad stuff gets through and then you're polluting the groundwater.

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<v Speaker 1>So as more and more people came along, we realized

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<v Speaker 1>we had to come up with technology. We couldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>rely on soil anymore. Yeah. Um, Massachusetts was a little

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<v Speaker 1>forward thinking in a Woosta, mass in eighty nine, they

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<v Speaker 1>actually treated sewage with chemicals. Uh. And this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first chemical treatments for sewage in America, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And that would cause these solids to clump together and

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<v Speaker 1>then settle out like obviously the fecal matter. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was good because bacteria is more uh more apt

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<v Speaker 1>to cling to the poop than it will to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the water. So that helped for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>and then for a long time after that they would

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of dilute the water with uh, with clean

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<v Speaker 1>water and say, well, it's this is as good as

0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we can do basically, yeah, which I mean again, that's

0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of what we're doing now. Whi's just the stuff

0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.560
<v Speaker 1>we're putting out now is way better, um, way less harmful,

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<v Speaker 1>and has way more stuff taken out than it did

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century. But that's ultimately, that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that we're still working mostly on those premises. One

0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:36.440
<v Speaker 1>is that you, um, you you allow sedimentation to happen,

0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.320
<v Speaker 1>which is like putting sewage over a field and letting

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the sediment settle, and then um, you use chemical or

0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.280
<v Speaker 1>biological treatments to filter out stuff that is left over

0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.360
<v Speaker 1>even after sedimentation. And that's again that's that's where we're

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<v Speaker 1>at today. It's just the techniques were using are much

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<v Speaker 1>more advanced. Yeah. And I don't think we even said

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<v Speaker 1>what wastewater is because I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>might think that wastewater is just something that goes down

0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.720
<v Speaker 1>your toilet. Um. But wastewater is any kind of water

0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.480
<v Speaker 1>affected by human use at all period. So there's uh,

0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.080
<v Speaker 1>there's storm runoff. You know, rainwater is is wastewater. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might think like rainwater is beautiful, it falls

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<v Speaker 1>from the sky and it's so clean. But this stuff

0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.960
<v Speaker 1>is running through cities. It's running, uh and especially in

0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.400
<v Speaker 1>cities because there's not enough dirt and grass to soak

0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it all up. So it's it's taking everything on every

0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:34.760
<v Speaker 1>urban city street in America and collecting that and taking

0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:41.760
<v Speaker 1>it with it. So fertilizer, pesticides, any kind of agricultural grossness,

0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.200
<v Speaker 1>road kill, I mean, just think about every disgusting thing

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. And that's what stormwater is. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why stormwater is treated just like it is, which is wastewater,

0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:58.200
<v Speaker 1>whole possums, tons of possums. Guns Apparently what I saw

0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.920
<v Speaker 1>one wastewater treatment explainer video and apparently a lot of

0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.200
<v Speaker 1>guns end up getting filtered out in that first big filter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, because I think people like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they're just murder weapons that people throw down

0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a sewer drain. I mean I would guess so, or

0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:18.000
<v Speaker 1>at least crime weapons. You know, it's kind of scared. Yeah,

0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to think like that happened one time somewhere,

0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.800
<v Speaker 1>not like that's a regular occurrence. That's nuts. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I say a lot of guns. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many guns, but it was enough for them to mention

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<v Speaker 1>that guns show up quite often, right. Um, the one

0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about, which is like all that that

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<v Speaker 1>wastewater that goes down toilet's the poop and the b

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<v Speaker 1>water that's actually called black water. I love that term. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make some black water. Yeah, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a hardcore cocktail that would involve Yeager Moister

0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and the Doodie Brothers. Let's work it out here, So

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<v Speaker 1>Yeager Meister okay, um, a little bit of simple surah,

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<v Speaker 1>very simple syrup, orange juice, fresh squeeze orange juice. How

0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.359
<v Speaker 1>would that be with a beta? Be awful with the

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.760
<v Speaker 1>ager moister, of course, everything's gonna be off with you,

0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:15.959
<v Speaker 1>ager MOISTERA um and then a little um, freshly muddled basil,

0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>little star and ease. Perhaps that's the black water cocktail.

0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's terrible. Gray water is not as

0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>gross as that by any stretch. This is all the water.

0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.280
<v Speaker 1>And we've talked about gray water in our eco friendly

0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.200
<v Speaker 1>episodes because a lot of households will reuse their gray water,

0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the water that goes down your sink or your shower. Um,

0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of individual households try to recycle their own

0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.160
<v Speaker 1>gray water. If you're uh, you know, one of those

0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.159
<v Speaker 1>four thinking hippie dippie types. Sure, if you've got a

0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.639
<v Speaker 1>composting toilet out house in your backyard. Yeah, but generally

0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.520
<v Speaker 1>there aren't like big cities with huge gray water recycling

0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.520
<v Speaker 1>systems yet to predict that in the next many years

0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.679
<v Speaker 1>we will see those rise pretty pretty commonly. Yeah. I

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>hope so I do too. I mean, it's definitely about time,

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like we waste water, like like it's nothing. Yeah, it's

0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy how cheap our water is, especially in the States.

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>You know. UM, there's also a couple of other things

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're a waste I think they actually they

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<v Speaker 1>don't call them waste water any longer. They call it

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 1>UM water resource reclamation plants, which I really kind of

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.800
<v Speaker 1>drives home what we're talking about a little more like

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is something you don't want to just

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<v Speaker 1>pe away, you know what I'm saying, Like, this is

0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.240
<v Speaker 1>important stuff UM, And so they're they're starting to use

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.240
<v Speaker 1>like that kind of nomenclature to to indicate how important

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it is. But if you run one of these plants

0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.080
<v Speaker 1>where you work at them, UM, a couple of other

0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.119
<v Speaker 1>things you're gonna be on the lookout for. UM is

0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the um amount of pollutants that you're you have in

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.800
<v Speaker 1>your your water at any given time, the amount that

0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.200
<v Speaker 1>comes through. And then in addition to storm runoff, black water,

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and gray water, you're also on the lookout for industrial affluent.

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<v Speaker 1>And we should probably say real quick, um iffluent is

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>what most people call wastewater all forms going into the

0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:18.439
<v Speaker 1>treatment plant. Yes, not affluent, no, no, UM effluent UH

0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>is is all wastewater if you're not in the know.

0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.360
<v Speaker 1>If you are in the know, Effluent is what a

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.240
<v Speaker 1>water reclamation treatment plant puts out. The treated water is effluent.

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>The all the untreated stuff that comes in is influent.

0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.680
<v Speaker 1>That's right. But I think if we say effluent, we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably just gonna be talking about it in general throughout

0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:44.359
<v Speaker 1>this episode. Yeah, and you know you mentioned industrial processes. Um,

0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we should probably point out to that if you have

0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.920
<v Speaker 1>an industrial plant manufacturing something, you probably have your own

0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 1>uh wastewater treatment system on site. You don't just dump

0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff and say here, county or city deal

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.399
<v Speaker 1>with it. You have to clean that stuff first. Just

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 1>in that really gross still gross water to the city.

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Probably depends on your mayor if he's spineless or she's spineless.

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>That's true, Mayor Quimby, he wouldn't. He wouldn't let it

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.240
<v Speaker 1>happen because he was spineless. He'd let it happen because

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he was getting kickbacks for it. Oh man, my favorite.

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know even know if I can say this

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>on the air. Okay, should I? Do? You know the line?

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.600
<v Speaker 1>My favorite? No? No, I wait to hear it. We'll

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.880
<v Speaker 1>edit it out if you can't. All right, I can't

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 1>remember which episode, but it was when everyone was freaking

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 1>out about something and Quinby came up to the podium

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and said, calm down, everyone, I know, well, all we're

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.639
<v Speaker 1>all frightened and hawny. Yeah, that's right. I think that

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was the comment episode where the comment was headed towards Springfield.

0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:52.400
<v Speaker 1>We're all frightened and horny, so funny. And then he

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>introduces Professor Frank, and Professor Frank goes a good evening everyone,

0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and somebody stands up. He goes quit stalling what he goes, Okay, alright,

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 1>sit down. Oh man, I missed that show. I do too. Um,

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to take a break, Yeah, let's take a

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:35.719
<v Speaker 1>break and we'll talk about how this stuff is treated. Okay.

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>So we've basically we've talked a lot about wastewater up

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to this point, Chuck, and I feel like we should

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about it some more. Yeah, And uh, let me

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.720
<v Speaker 1>point something out too real quick, because Ed said in

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 1>here that, um, wastewater treatment plants is not water that

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to end up drinking. That is not fully true. Um,

0:21:56.520 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 1>in in water challenged places in the world. Uh, they

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 1>don't like to call it this, but there are treatment

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>facilities where they can go toilet to tap um places

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:14.959
<v Speaker 1>like Australia, Singapore, Namibia and then New Mexico, Virginia and California. Uh,

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 1>they convert this stuff back into potable water. And it's

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:24.119
<v Speaker 1>pretty great actually because they've said, uh, it's shown that

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>it actually has fewer containments contaminants than existing just like

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>what you and I are drinking in Atlanta. Let's say,

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>yeah for sure, because they put it through such a

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>rigorous process that from what I saw, Singapore actually has

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to remix it with rain water so that it'll get

0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>some of like the local minerals in in tar War

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 1>basically because they strip it. They strip everything out. It's

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.480
<v Speaker 1>just like water molecules and that's it from what they

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>do with it. And the one in Singapore I was

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>reading about. Did you read about that one? They seem

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to be like the leaders of the pack with this stuff.

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I think Singapore is especially challenge with water supplies. Yeah.

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So they actually, um, they came up with something called

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>new water any W water and any W is capitalized.

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>It is just a great great little like word and

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and spelling and everything. Um. But they also in addition

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to just coming up with like a bang up water

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>filtration system or water reclamation system. They also had a

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>bang up PR campaign and got everybody behind it. You

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>totally do. There was a town I can't remember in

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>um I can't remember the name of it in Australia

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>where like they needed to do this and it got

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>sunk because some people started speaking out against it. All

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the city council started turning changing their minds. Um.

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Malcolm Turnbull forced a referendum to try to

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>gain favor with some of the residents there and it

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>was just a big mess. But this paper was basically

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 1>demonstrating side by side, you know, how bad it could

0:23:57.720 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>be and how good it could be, but a big

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>port of talking people into drinking water that somebody else

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>peet out at some point or was contained poop at

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>some point. Like you really have to be committed to

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>it and have a united front and basically show the

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>science saying this is harmless, there's nothing wrong with it.

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's more pure than anything we're feeding you now,

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>So just try and Singapore was apparently very successful with it. Yeah,

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you really have to do that. Um I saw other

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>places where they say they try not to make a

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 1>too big of a show of it. But sure, I

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 1>think the opposite. I think you really got to like

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>educate people so they know that this this water is

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>safe and taste fine, and I mean it's it's a

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>miracle of of modern technology. You know, it really is.

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It totally is. And um, I'm with you, Like, I

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's one of the things you need to be

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.479
<v Speaker 1>upfront and and transparent about not letting people find out

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the hard way. Yeah, a new water is you know,

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a great way to go because if you notice,

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>new water sounds nothing like fecal water. No, no, it

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>sounds like new coke. Right that hit. Yeah, So um,

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's follow this uh this stuff like if

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>you um, let's say it's raining one day, we're standing

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in a sewer now chuck, Okay, you don't have it.

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>By the way, what we're about to describe takes about

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty six hours, depending on cool. So we're standing right

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>outside of a sewage treatment plant, a water reclamation plant,

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 1>and we are knee deep, our glosses are on and

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>we're standing there and all this water is coming through.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>It's raining, so there's um stormwater runoff. I'm sorry, I

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>only have the one pair for him that's so gross. Um,

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's a possum floating by because because there's a

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>stormwater runoff, maybe there's a gun over there. Um. People

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>are pooping and peek, so there's black water all around

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>us as well. People are taking showers, so there's gray

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>water coming through. I could not stop thinking about corn

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 1>when I was researching this. Yeah, like, what at what

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>point does corn get filtered out? So about we're about

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>at that point. One of the first things that all

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>this water is going to do is go through a um,

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good sized fence, right, and that's gonna hold

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>back all of the big stuff, the possums. The tree

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>branch is probably a gun unless it's a real tiny

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>little you know, old gambler's derringer, right, and all this

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>stuff is gonna get caught up on a fence and

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>eventually somebody's gonna come along and scrape it off, sell

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the gun, eat the possum, um, who do who knows

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>what with the tree branch, and then um just basically

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>keep it clean for other stuff. That's that's the very

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>first step that really before the water ever even goes

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>into the plant, it's going to pass through one of

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>these grates. Yeah, or there may be like a vertical

0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>conveyor system. So some so, some unlucky individual doesn't have

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to scoop pop poop possums and poop guns out of water. Right,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>A clean possum is bad enough, But one that's been

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>bathed in black water, that's not good. Man. We're making jokes,

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>but God bless those people who do this work. You know.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, hats off to them

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>because again they're keeping all of us safe and healthy.

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It's right right, So well, no I'm keeping money. Um,

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>So we've gone through that first grade. Now there's another

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.719
<v Speaker 1>series of screens that are gonna pick out smaller stuff

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like you know, bits of tire or little um car

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 1>accident pieces that run off with the storm water. You

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>know I'm talking about were like, you know, there's this

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of glittery stuff in the road. All that

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff gets picked up and course saying that kind of thing.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And now you're talking. Now you've got some water that's

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>ready to be treated. Yeah. There there's uh something called

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a grit chamber. Uh. They can be horizontal rated or

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>vortex um. The vortex ones are kind of cool ed

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>called it a hydrocyclone. I think it's the same thing,

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and it basically just spins the water and slings all

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that grit and stuff, I guess a car accident stuff

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>right out to the side where it's filtered out. Do

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>you remember at like the County Fair or whatever, that

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that ride that was like that? Yeah, Six Flags had. Yeah, God,

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it was called the what was it called? But yeah,

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.239
<v Speaker 1>it's spun and then the floor dropped out from under you.

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, it was probably called the Black Water. I

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>can't remember. I did not like it, though, so I

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>loved it. Six Flags had one of those times. Yeah,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>they got rid of it pretty quickly, and of course,

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you always get these Six Flags rumors. The

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>rumor was that some child didn't get slung out and

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like got trapped when the floor came back up, which

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>may have been true for all I know, but I

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>just I don't like a dizzying things. Yeah. The trick

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>was to just keep your focus on something inside in

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the middle, like the person across from you who was

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>moving relative to you, and that kept you from getting dizzy. Um. Okay,

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>so yes, so, but you can if you were so inclined.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And also I have to say, like reading all of

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>these different steps, I'm like, this would be kind of

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a fun ride actually, to like slide through here. If

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you're small, it's like you were just a little piece

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of car headlight. To take it all the way through,

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be pretty fun. So, um, now you've got

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>water that's ready to be treated. It's been um, the

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>grit's been taken out, the big pieces have been taken out,

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>but there's still plenty of stuff in it. And the

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>water is very turbid, right, there's a lot of suspended

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>particulate matter just kind of floating around making the water murky.

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And this is where it enters what's known as primary treatment,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>where basically, if there's any water reclamation plant anywhere in

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the world, it's going to go through this stage at

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>least the primary treatment. Yeah, and um, I think it's uh,

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you think about during the daytime, there's a

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>lot more activity, so uh, these facilities aren't meant to,

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>um like, operate at full board during the day and

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>then be cool at night. Like they depend on a

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>very steady flow. And you know, pollution can't all bum

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>rush it when everyone goes and takes their morning poop

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>so they have these um, these holding tanks basically where

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>they can hold this stuff during the day that's coming

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>in and just sort of balance it out and distribute

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>it over a twenty four hour period so it's not

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the system's never overwhelmed basically. Yeah, it's called flow equalization,

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>where if you imagine this is a river running through

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they keep very tight control over the volume and the

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>speed and the flow of the wastewater that's going through

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the plant, and so when that flow is exceeded, whatever

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 1>is exceeded gets diverted off to one of these holding

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>basins so that when the flow goes down, they can

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>move some from the from the holding basin into that

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>flow to make it so it's steady basically twenty four

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>hours a day. That's pretty ingenious stuff. If you ask me,

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that it is. Uh. And then one

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>more gross thing that we should mention. Yeah, we forgot this. Yeah,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>grease and fat um. You know, restaurants use grease traps,

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>but there's still so much um industrial and consumer like,

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, think about anytime someone pours grease down their

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>drain or oil down their drain in their house, which

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be doing it. That stuff ends up in

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the wastewater treatment facility, and it all loves to hang

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>out with each other and congeal up together. And there's

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>something called fat bergs that form, and remember the one

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>from London. Oh god, yeah, they're they're horrid. It's a

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a huge, sometime multi ton ball of fat and grease.

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And apparently they're really good at attracting um uh, flushable wipes.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Although you're gonna say the ladies, right, the ones that

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>have like gold medallions and chest hair stuck to them, Yes,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>but the normal fat birds, the ones with glasses and

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>buck teeth, they don't. So disco stew versus cletus a

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>slight joke, exactly exactly. And I didn't know there's gonna

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>be so Simpsons heavy. I had no idea either, but

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I remember learning about fatberg's back in I

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 1>think it was two thousand and eleven something like that,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>where London had one and and they were like, everybody

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>stopped flushing wipes, and um everyone said, no, you can

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>just get the fat bergs out every once in a while.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's that's horrid. But they have to get

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>those out, not just because the fat brigs are so gross.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>But like you were saying, that can really screw with

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the machinery in the UM in the water reclamation plant.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that would be after grit potentially. Yeah.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>They go into these aeration basins and they basically just

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>inject a bunch of air in the bottom of the

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>tanks or not even tanks. A lot of these are

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>open air that you know, we'll mention that later. It uh,

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it just creates bubbles and it aerates the water and

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that kind of just works everything free where it can

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>float to the top so you can just skim it

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>right on off and slap it on a roll and

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>go to town. Yep. It's a great Mayo substitute. UM. Okay,

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So now we finally enter this primary treatment. Although I

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>would I would argue that removing grease and fat or

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the acronym is fog, fat, oil and grease UM,

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that's part of primary treatment. But we'll say that it's

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>step negative point five. We finally reached step one, which

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is where this turbid um uh water with all of

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>this kind of suspended particulate matter in it is going

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to be dumped into a tank. Usually UM well, I

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>can't say usually, but there's like two main versions that

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I've seen. One is a big round one, um, where

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the water just flows into the middle and then just

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of um slows down as it reaches the outside

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of the tank the or the edges of the tank.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>The other is a makes a little more since it's

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>almost like a big swimming pool where the water comes

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in one end and slows down as it makes its

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>way towards the other. Either way, the point of this

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is slowing the water down so that it continues to flow,

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>but flows so slowly that all those suspended particles have

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a chance to settle to the bottom under gravity and

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that sedimentation like we talked about, you know, way back

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in the day, where they used to take sewer water

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and put it over a field as it was trickling

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 1>through that soil under the force of gravity, that sedimentation.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>We do the same thing today, except we usually do

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it in a tank rather than a field. And then

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>we also may use some agents to speed it up,

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like flocculating agents, which is one of my favorite words,

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe a good band name, I'm not sure. Um. There's

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>also coalgulating agents, which is a terrible band name, and

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>they'll actually do what um, what they were trying to

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>do with the grease, which is kind of fluff it

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>up or make it attracted to one another and and

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 1>form larger solids that are way easier to get out

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of there. And after this primary treatment, the water looks

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but you would not drink it because you

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>would die almost immediately of a horrible, terrible death. Yeah.

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And the the key with these primary clarifiers, which are

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>these main tanks that they go into it first, is

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>there's something called settling velocity, and that's the speed at

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>which the particulate is going to settle. And we mentioned

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>earlier the flow rate coming in. The reason they have

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to be just manic about how much stuff is coming

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>in there is because your flow rate of the time

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>can never exceed that settling velocity. So, in other words,

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the stuff coming in can't be coming in faster than

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>all that nasty stuff can settle, right, right, And but

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that nasty stuff does settle, and it forms what everybody

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>calls sludge. But what I saw, Chuck, is that it

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:00.280
<v Speaker 1>is not the term of art these days. The current

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>term is raw primary bio solids, formerly sludge. That's the

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>full name of it r P B s are p

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>B f s s Oh that those are different words,

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like formerly sludge is part of the name. Like they

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>changed the name of sludge to raw raw primary bioa

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>solids formerly sludge like Prince basically yeah, right exactly, the

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>aret just formerly known as Frits oh man lright b

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>yeah for real, Oh my gosh. So uh, things are

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna stink. There's no way to get around it. If

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 1>you've been to a wastewater treatment plant, it's gonna smell. Um.

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why they're usually not close to residential areas, although

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 1>there is one in Atlanta or on the West Side

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of right there. Yeah, I've never smelled it.

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I haven't either. Um, it may be capped. Like if

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you get complaints of odors, then basically, if you get

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 1>enough of them, then the city says, all right, we

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta do something here. Yeah, maybe we need to put

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a put a roof on this thing. It can't be

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>open air any longer, or maybe we need it. And

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>this is probably what they do. And the one on

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the west side is they they treat that air. They

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>ducked it out and treat it. Uh you know, old school. Uh,

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>they basically take a bunch of toilet paper rolls and

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>stuff them with dryer sheets, like the old dorm trick. Oh,

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember we talked about that recently. I don't remember

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>what episode though, how did we Yeah, yeah, um, yeah,

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it was, but yeah, yes we did.

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But if you work in one of these plants, it's

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna It's not like working at a tulip

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:43.760
<v Speaker 1>farm in Holland. You know, it would be a nice smell,

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>although I don't think tulips actually smell, but yeah, I'm

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sure it's still better than whatever everybody at these reclamation

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 1>plants are smelling. But you know what, tulip farmers and

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Holland smell great, right they do. They have a musky,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>earthy odor. So um, okay, so yes it smells. I

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a cute, hilarious little like sidetrack included

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>in this for us UM. But this water, though, chuck right.

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Once it's treated, primarily it looks fine, but it's not fine.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And for a very long time, like that was the

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>extent of water reclamation, you would scoop out the sludge

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>send that that primary um primary treated water out to

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>lakes and rivers, and then you go, jeez, why are

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>all these fish dying off? What's the problem? And the

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>problem it turned out was that we really needed to

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>add a second stage of treatment that even though you

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>couldn't see the bad stuff in there anymore because you've

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>taken it out, there was still plenty of microscopic material

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that could cause all sorts of havoc on the body

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of water that you release this out to. And they're

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>they're described by a term called um biochemical oxygen demand,

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>which is the amount of basically living aerobic bacteria in

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this treated water and how much oxygen it will suck

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>out of that body of water, growing like forming an

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>algae bloom. And then as the algae bloom uses up

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>all the oxygen dies off, um the the bacteria that

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>eats those use up the rest of the oxygen and

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>kill off a lot of fish and a lot of

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>other wildlife in that body of water that you dump

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that sewage into. And so as they kind of figured

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>out that there's this this this stuff you can't see

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in there, that's still a real problem, We've added a

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>secondary form of water treatment and that's really improved things tremendously. Yeah,

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>so let's take another break and we'll talk about secondary

0:39:44.560 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>treatment and then eventually tertiary treatment right after this. All right,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So where we left off was uh and and we

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>should also say too that like there are probably out

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of the fifteen thousand treatment plants in the country, I'm

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.919
<v Speaker 1>sure there's are still some that stopped at the primary treatment. Yeah,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm positive too. But which is like, you can't

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>like that's that to me is an ecological crime. It's

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>an environmental crime. Oh absolutely, because it's so damaging to

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>two water resources. It's just and in wildlife resources too.

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just it should be a crime. It's not yet,

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but hopefully it will be soon. Oh absolutely. Um. So

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>secondary treatment is key and if you're if you're working

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>at a modern wastewater treatment facility, then you're definitely gonna

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>go with secondary treatment. I'm not sure the what year

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>they started coming around it, um And actually I can

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>tell you something. So yeah, they're the main process of

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>secondary treatment is called activated sludge and it was developed

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>starting in nineteen twelve. Okay, so there are still some

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that are behind the nineteen twelve barrier. Wow. Yeah, So

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>in the secondary treatment This is where, um, it gets

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting in a chemical way. You talked about

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the algae blooms, which are no good, so to prevent

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that from happening. Um, what's going on in

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>this water is they're all these uh what's basically going

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>on is aerobic digestion. They're putting things in there that

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can eat this stuff. Right, it's crazy like that. It's

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>beneficial bacteria to the rescue, which is just wonderful. Like

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>they're using. This is that biological treatment we referred to

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>earlier where they're saying, hey, there's all this bacteria and

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>all these other terrible um like little by products and

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>things that we don't on and they're everything from like

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>gasoline molecules to whatever um. And there are different types

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of bacteria, protozoa, even tiny tiny, tiny little invertebrates um

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that live in the water most most of the time

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>are microscopic and they'll eat this stuff. And if we

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>feed them this treated sewage, they'll make it even even pure.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's the secondary treatment, which I just love.

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>And we've been doing it for over a hundred years now,

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>well most of us have been, I should say, yeah,

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy to think about. When you look at

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a wastewater treatment plant, they have about these cool mechanical

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>processes going on, but they're also growing, essentially and uh,

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>living things there that are their little work buddies. They're

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 1>their little cohorts that do part two. And they have to, uh,

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>they have to foster life for these micro organisms, I

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>assume on site. Right, Yeah, but from what I saw it,

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like a self aiming thing. Right. Well,

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>there probably are a few sea monkeys mixed in there.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised. But from what I saw, with

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>activated sledge, you're actually taking bacteria that's already alive and

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>eating the stuff in the sewage. You're just fostering it

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>by pumping air and more specifically oxygen into the mix,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>which mixes the stuff up but also gives them oxygen

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to like really kind of be powered by. And so

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.240
<v Speaker 1>they really go to town eating this. So not only

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>do they break down during this activated sledge process, these

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>these beneficial bacteria not only break down the stuff you're

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to get out of the water, they also multiply

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and create more and more bacteria, so that part of

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the activated sledge processes after being treated for several hours,

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>you move that treated secondary treated water out and then

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you take the sludge that you let settle to the

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>bottom and pump it back through for another round, because

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you've got all new bacteria that was produced in that

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>last round. And so it's kind of like this nice

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:07.479
<v Speaker 1>circular closed system that is so effective. I saw that. Um.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Usually at night they have to skim off some of

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the bacteria that's been produced that day because it's usually

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>so successful. Yeah, and I think they even pay someone

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to stand there and go, what do you think of that?

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>How about one more round? It's a miracle. Every every

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>six hours after treatment process goes through, they just shout,

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a miracle. So we're talking about like bacterial membranes,

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like a sheet of bacteria that might churn through this

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>one of these basins, or maybe an algae sheet or

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And you know, you gotta, like you said,

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep this stuff alive. So the pH is important,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>oxygen eating like you were talking about. The temperature has

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>got to be regulated. Um, you just have to make

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 1>sure these these little uh, these little booger state healthy

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and happy. You want them to be happy as can

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>be and as long as you're pumping oxygen there and

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>making the pH the way that you want it or

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the way that they wanted, they're they're going to be

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>happy and reproduce and multiply and go forth and spread

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the gospel. All right, So that is secondary treatment, and

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that is apparently it gets to the point where the

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>United States has said, fine, dump it in a lake,

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>dump it in a river, dump it in the ocean.

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>It's perfectly. But then if you're if you really want

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to kick things up a notch, you can go for

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a tertiary treatment. This is just showing off. It really is,

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Another word for it is uh disinfection or

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 1>polishing um. And this is pretty interesting because you wouldn't

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>know it, but there are tiny little things ranging from

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>parasites to antibiotics, and we'll talk about all these a

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>little more detail. To microplastics, like there are microplastics and

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>some soaps or just larger plastics that break down and

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff gets through these first two processes

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's actually plastic in the water. Yeah, I'm guessing

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Emily doesn't use plastics in the soap she makes for

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Love Your Mama, Plastics, No, Um. But I had no

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 1>idea until I read this that that was the thing.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But it makes sense so like that that I guess

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the exfoliating stuff. It's not all crushed walnuts, shells or

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Like it would make a lot of

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>sense to use all of this waste plastic or it

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and I guess the strictly business sense. But

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>these plastics that they can be filtered out, but they

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.439
<v Speaker 1>can also be broken down to this point where they're

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>they're microscopic as well, and so if you're just doing

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>primary treatment, you're sending a lot of those microplastics right

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>out the other side, and that's allowed them to kind

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>of spread throughout the entire food chain. I saw this, Um,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a front line just the other

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>night on plastics, and man, it was eye opening, Like

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>we need to do an episode on plastics. I've been

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 1>wanting to for a while, but this one kind of

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>lit a fire under my butt. Um. But it I mean,

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just everywhere, and so much so that not

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>just washing up on beaches, but it's in the water

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we drink, right. So one of the things they figured

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>out is there are types of bacteria that eat plastics.

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 1>So now they're trying to figure out how to cultivate

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>those bacteria. And that's another thing to what what we

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 1>were saying with that secondary treatment like activated sledge. It's

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not just one kind of bacteria. It's a huge microbiome

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of bacteria that eat all sorts of different things, specialize

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>in all these different things. But when you have a big, huge,

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>diverse colony, you can get that much more stuff out.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>And so there are some bacteria that eat my microplastics.

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Then I also saw and this to me is the future.

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It's um ozone oh three, three oxygen atoms put together,

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's that from what I saw, Chuck, it handles

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>every single thing that you would possibly want to get

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>out of water. Yeah, so with ozone, what they'll do

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>is they'll send it in a tetrical charge through the

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>water and these O two molecules disassociate from one another

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and then recombined to form ozone oh three. And it's

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>just a kind of a superhero occident that does a great,

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>great job killing bacteria. I saw it as more like

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a coked up John Belushi just running through a room

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. That's how I saw it, because

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like it just goes in there and and messes

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff up. Like anything it touches, it just starts to

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 1>break down. UM. Because it's so reactive that it basically says,

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>give me an electron, baby, and that whatever it just

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>took an electron from starts to fall apart. Yeah. You

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>can also chlorinate the wastewater. UM. You know we've talked

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>about chlorination before. Uh. It works pretty well, but it's

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not like a disinfectant. UM, and the chlorine itself can

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 1>break down into toxic substances, which is not good because

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>then you gotta go treat that other tertiary methods and

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that's no good either. That's right, like chloroform I think

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>is a byproduct of it. And then there's UV radiation,

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>which takes a ton of energy. Uh, it can be effective,

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's really expensive. Yeah it is, UM, but it

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>does work. I mean most things do not stand up

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 1>very well the UV radiation or UV light. UM. We

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>have one of those phone um cleaners, a UV phone cleaner.

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>You have you seen those? Yeah? I saw those on

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Shark Tank many years ago. Oh yeah, So, UM, I

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>can't tell if it works or not, but I think

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it's does. I realized it's kind of a matter of

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 1>faith here, but it makes me feel good. Um. And

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>then there's another one called reverse os moses, which I

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>think deserves its own episode, or at least needs to

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>figure in like a desalination episode or something. But it

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>is um basically using a membrane that is so small

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>only water can pass through it. So when you push

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>sewage or treated water or anything um through this membrane

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, water comes out. Everything else is

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>left behind. And what I saw about Singapore's new water

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>is not only do they use that very expensive, very

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>effective UV radiation, they also use reverse osmosis in addition

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to microfiltering to produce this new water, which is why

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like so pure that they have to add it

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.360
<v Speaker 1>back with you know, rain water to get some of

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the minerals back into it. Yeah, reverse osmosis works rejects

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I think nine percent of bacteria. Los Angeles and some

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>other cities are using this, like we said, cities that

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>have water shortages. Generally, it really depends on not only

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.399
<v Speaker 1>this membrane but tons of pressure UM up to six

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds per square inch, very highly pressurized, and if

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to get what they're calling i p R

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Indirect potable reuse, which is eventually you can drink this stuff.

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I seen all kinds of problem. I mean, I guess

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.919
<v Speaker 1>this new water, that's what their aim is. But you

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you take your tertiary tertiary tertiary tertiary treated water, you

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 1>hold that in a reservoir for a while, then it

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>goes through osmosis, then it's treated with either UV or

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>ozone or both. Then it goes back to a reservoir

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>for about six months for just natural processes to go

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>to go to work, and then it gets sent just

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:30.280
<v Speaker 1>through the regular standard water treatment that everyone else's water

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>goes through. Wow, that's like l A's doing that. I

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>think if if you're doing i PR right, then you're

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>doing many of these steps in concert with one another

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and then sending it through the regular system in the end.

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are different ways in different places, but uh,

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty amazing that you can you can drink water

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that goes down your toilet eventually, and it's probably better

0:51:56.200 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>than a lot of city water. Yeah, oh for sure. Um.

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:03.280
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that that got me chuck um

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>was that we still do that thing where we take

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that sludge and spread it over um farmland, create those

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 1>sewage farms. So everything's kind of come back full circle again. Um.

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>And we also use semi semi treated water for like, um,

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 1>like like you're getting parks and stuff like that. So

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>there's like a there's there's um a lot of good

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>uses for for water that's not quite indirect potable reuse quality,

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but can it is still like good enough you just

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to drink it, yeah, or you can just

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>dump it back into your local river lake or something

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, that's always great. And then the just lastly,

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>real quick, UM, the future of this stuff that I

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:54.280
<v Speaker 1>saw is that they're getting so good at filtering stuff

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>out that they're like, well, wait a minute, we're accumulating

0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this plastic um, so let's start collecting

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it and selling it for reuse, right, which is which

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is wonderful because I mean, otherwise they're just diverting this

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff to a landfill. Or they're getting so good at

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 1>getting like phosphorus or nitrogen out, well, let's make a

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 1>sideline of selling fertilizer to farmers or something like that. Um.

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Rather than adding more to the water supply, will just

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.959
<v Speaker 1>reuse the stuff that didn't get used the first time.

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>And then um, they're also reusing cellulose fiber from used

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:33.240
<v Speaker 1>toilet paper, and that amazing is amazing. So they're filtering

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>out cellulose that was part of toilet paper at one point,

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and they're using it for everything from insulation to roadways

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe, which I didn't know they used cellulos and roadways,

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but by god they do now. So that's wastewater treatment. Everybody,

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>one of those great engineering episodes that we do from

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>time to time. I hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, I

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>got one more. We always like to think of our

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>friends in New York because that's sort of the gold

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:04.879
<v Speaker 1>standard of huge city doing amazing things. And there are

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 1>fourteen plants in New York City alone, and they how

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.760
<v Speaker 1>many gallons of water per day? Do you think they treat?

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Just take a stab? One point three billion gallons of

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>water per day? Wow? I was apparently the statistic I

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>saw said, if you that is enough over eight years

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to fill the entire Dead Sea with toilet water. Wow,

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>which you should not do. Don't do it the dead

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Sea special. Do you got anything else? They've got nothing else? Uh, Well,

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about wastewater, just show

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>up at your local wastewater treatment plan or you're sorry,

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 1>your water recap water resource reclamation plant and they'll probably

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>give you a tour, especially if they're friendly types. And

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:54.239
<v Speaker 1>since I said that, it's time for the listener, mayo, Yeah,

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>show up and say I want to see the artists

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 1>formerly known as sludge, right but also doing a really

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>like kind a hostile demanding way. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, all right,

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this from a teacher. We love hearing

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>from our teachers here during the worldwide lockdown. Now that

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Georgia is finally on board. Yeah, they just found out

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that you could be a contagious and not show symptoms yesterday.

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm so angry about that. It's nuts. My daughter literally

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>knew that before our governor said he did. Yeah, for

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 1>probably a good month, I would guess. Probably. Yeah, you

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 1>should listen to our show. We talked about it last week,

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 1>well in real time, weeks ago by the time this

0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>comes out. All right, So this is from a teacher

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 1>named j Alexander in the mathematics department at l h S.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Good morning, guys. I wanted to thank you for the

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>distraction episodes. As a teacher working from home, I've been

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>helping my one and thirty plus students and their parents

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>navigate this challenge while also making sure my two biological

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>kiddos are doing their work as well. With the governor

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>closing schools for the rest of the year, I woke

0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:05.280
<v Speaker 1>up pretty sad this morning. I'm sad for my seniors.

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>We didn't know the last time we were together would

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>truly be the last time. I was thinking about that

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the other day too, man, Like, that's just it's all sad.

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But seniors and prom and last day's school and all

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that fun stuff is just to to miss that as

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 1>it just sucks. Yeah, it really does. Do you know

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.360
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do? Is it like you're just gonna

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 1>continue on the rest of the year from home and

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 1>still graduate on time. I think everyone's just trying to

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.959
<v Speaker 1>figure this out in real time. Man, My own daughter

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is graduating from her preschool, so she's not going to

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of these kids ever. Again, just super sad.

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 1>That's sad, but also congratulations. Yeah, well they're they're doing

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>these uh two times a week, these zoom meetings, which

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is kind of fun to see all these kids on there,

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet just crawling around not paying attention. They're actually

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty locked in. It's it's very impressive. Oh really, Yeah,

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>their teachers are on there and they kind of are

0:56:57.840 --> 0:56:59.399
<v Speaker 1>in a rhythm. It's it's kind of cool to see.

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 1>That's cool, all right, so let's just continue here. I'm

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.760
<v Speaker 1>sad for my own kids who won't see their friends

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and teachers for the rest of the school year. I'm

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 1>sad for all my coworkers who are retiring this year.

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.960
<v Speaker 1>They didn't plan for it to end this way, although

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, they may be pretty stumped early retirement. Uh,

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>they're definitely silver lining, zough. I'm seven months pregnant and

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>don't mind working in my pajamas. The weather is great

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.600
<v Speaker 1>in your podcast is keeping me sane. So thank you

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:28.040
<v Speaker 1>all so much for being my normal in this twilight

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>zone world. I pray that you and your families are

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>safe and healthy. And again, that is J Alexander the

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 1>letter J from the Mathematics department at l h S

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and right back at you two from us to you, um,

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, and thanks to everybody out there

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.919
<v Speaker 1>sending us good vibes. We're sending them right back out

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:51.600
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0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.680
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