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Speaker 1: Scrible advice. Welcome to the Not Even Night Show. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Rob Shooter. It's Wednesday, which means I do

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Speaker 1: a friend. Donnie Meetcham joined uys, Hey, Donnie, are you there? Hello? Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I know I said every week, but I truly mean it.

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Speaker 1: I just enjoy seeing your beautiful face and chatting with

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Speaker 1: you and spilling vis Well, you have marvelous taste. Marvelous taste. Hey,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of breaking news before we get into

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Speaker 1: the show. The whole show is really breaking news. But

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Speaker 1: this has just happened. Buckingham Palace has revealed the date

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Speaker 1: that they're going to crown the new king. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be on Saturday May six at Westminster Abbey in London,

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Speaker 1: where British monarchs had been crowned for the last nine

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. It was speculated that King Charles his coronation

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Speaker 1: saying no, no, no, it's gonna be May, which is

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Speaker 1: really fast. When Queen Elizabeth became the Queen, it took

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Speaker 1: over sixteen months before they put the crown on her head.

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Speaker 1: I know, so is the king, but he can't wear

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Speaker 1: So Charles, though, is in his seventies. Elizabeth was in

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Speaker 1: the twenties, so they will like, take your time, let

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Speaker 1: her grow up a little bit. We don't need to

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Speaker 1: rush into this. With Charles, we do need to rush

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Speaker 1: into it. Is in his seventies, moving along. He's been

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Speaker 1: waiting a long time to get that crowd on his head.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll go over Donna, if you want to

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Speaker 1: a technical question. So now I think the queen is dead,

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Speaker 1: So will somebody else get that crown or do they

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Speaker 1: was actually made smaller to fit her head. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be expanded for Charles. So I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say it's like, you know, one of those grounds that

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Speaker 1: But they can apparently put extra panels in and stretch it,

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't do that now because we've moved along way

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Speaker 1: away from what we were seventy years ago. But yet

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Speaker 1: it's going to be the same crown that his mom wore.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, it will fit his head. Good question, Donnie,

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Speaker 1: It is T dime and Kathee Lee Gifford are at war.

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Speaker 1: I warned you this was going to happen when her

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Speaker 1: book came out. So Kelly Ripper's book came out and

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Speaker 1: she criticized Regis in the book. It was gentle. I've

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Speaker 1: read the book. It was not too extreme. She said.

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Speaker 1: It was the hardest chapter for her to write in.

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Speaker 1: The takeaway was that when she arrived there was a

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Speaker 1: petty negotiations about her joining. She was angry that really

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Speaker 1: the main point Kelly Ripper was trying to make is

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Speaker 1: Oh they just got a long right away. She said

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Speaker 1: But with Kelly, and he was a superstar who'd been

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Speaker 1: If you read the book, it's gentle, it's not nice.

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Speaker 1: For the fifteen years that she worked with Regis, he

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Speaker 1: him be cruel to anybody. Now, I knew redis a

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Speaker 1: I actually really like Kathy Lee Gifford. I remember growing

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to read it. You might want

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Speaker 1: Lee Gifford will not be reading Kelly Ripper's book. A

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Speaker 1: Legendary actress Gina Davis, who I must say I adore her,

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