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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Union with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this week's Ozone Podcast presented by by Star and Uh.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is a repeat guest. I can't remember exactly

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Speaker 1: when he was on, but I was looking forward to

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Speaker 1: this because every time I talked to Jaguars offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: a right tackle, Joan Taylor, it is a good interview,

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Speaker 1: very insightful. Uh. And again Joan, looking forward to this,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you joining the Ozone podcast. Than and Uh.

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Speaker 1: We've talked over the years, UM in different situations. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about this year's situation with the Jaguars. Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 1: It feels to outsiders like this thing's different. As somebody

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Speaker 1: who's seen a lot around here, how different is it

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Speaker 1: right now? It was much different. Man. Ever since he's

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Speaker 1: taken the job has just been you know, tremendous. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: been buying in and Uh, I feel like the new

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Speaker 1: system we're running on both sides of the ball, even

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Speaker 1: on special teams that have been great, and everybody's been

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Speaker 1: jeling together well. The guys we brought in through the

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Speaker 1: free agency, through the draft. It's just been amazing the

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Speaker 1: guys they brought in here, even the coaches, a lot

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Speaker 1: of it's a great coaching staff as well, a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys who have won in this league and uh,

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Speaker 1: who have a lot of wins under their belt. So

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Speaker 1: and you know, coached a lot of great players. So

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Speaker 1: just having all those guys in here a lot of experience,

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Speaker 1: a lot of great players also just helps a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the first conversation you had with him,

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Speaker 1: because it was you know, and I can ask you

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Speaker 1: for details on last year, but it was tough around

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Speaker 1: here last year and he made such a point of

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Speaker 1: changing the culture. Was it just a calm conversation or

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Speaker 1: how did he sort of start changing that? If you will?

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Speaker 1: It was pretty calm, But you know, he always brings

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Speaker 1: that energy every day, and we've seen the fire in

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Speaker 1: his eye, and you know, we've seen a passion and

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Speaker 1: the vision he had for this place. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like just by seeing the guys he brought

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it it has been a good change.

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Speaker 1: And you know, everybody's been buying in every day, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's just been working for us, and

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Speaker 1: we're just trying to get better every day every week.

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Speaker 1: You have been a storyline this season with everybody making

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Speaker 1: a big deal at how well you're playing. So I

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Speaker 1: have a couple of topics. Um, is it that big

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Speaker 1: of the difference where you unfairly criticized before you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting at? Sometimes offensive line people, uh they

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Speaker 1: see it, they think they know, Uh, how much better

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Speaker 1: are you playing? Do you feel like it's that big

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Speaker 1: of a difference. I mean, you know, playing this profession,

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Speaker 1: you know you're under a microscope. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: have criticism some days, I don't, you know. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm playing better though, for sure. Um, And I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm not where I want to be at yet,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to get better every week. Um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I took a step back last week.

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Speaker 1: I just had a bad game, but um, definitely just

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Speaker 1: trying to keep improving and getting better. I've actually this before,

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Speaker 1: but that's another way. Do you ever think as an

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, boy, if I played another position and had

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Speaker 1: this game game, Because you guys are the one job

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Speaker 1: where you can play well for seventy five plays, give

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Speaker 1: You do that on defense, miss two tackles, Maybe somebody

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Speaker 1: doesn't notice. Do you ever fantasize about boy, be great

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Speaker 1: to play another spot, just maybe not another spot. But

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Speaker 1: You know, playing this position, you got to know that.

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Speaker 1: You know, like you said, one bad play can change

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Speaker 1: you know the position we play, you gotta block guys

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Speaker 1: be more athletic than you. So you know, you just

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Speaker 1: You just you gotta play one step, but one play

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Speaker 1: trying to just get better every week. Man. It's not

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Speaker 1: But that's just how that's just how the game is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's just the nature of the deal. UM,

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Speaker 1: tell me about playing next to Sheriff, It's amazing. He's

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Speaker 1: a he's a great guy, great veteran UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's been All Pro multiple times, pro bowler multiple times.

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Speaker 1: And having him in the in the room, just in

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Speaker 1: the old line room in general has been amazing. You know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, O T. S and camp. I've just

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't know much about

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Speaker 1: Ralpsher yet it's hard for people to it to know

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Speaker 1: Um what is it about him? It seems like you

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Speaker 1: different about the old line. Is that Phil the chemistry

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Speaker 1: or how does that all play into each other? Oh,

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Speaker 1: he plays a major role close fields and doing a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal job. He's a great guy overall and a great coach.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of experience in his league as well,

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Speaker 1: love having an old line room as well. A great

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Speaker 1: a great guy personality wise. From talking to you over

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Speaker 1: the years, you seem to not get too high or

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Speaker 1: low pretty low key guy. Does that fit with offensive line?

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Speaker 1: I mean do you feel like, uh, some people would

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Speaker 1: I feel like the only time we really get noticed

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Speaker 1: along those lines, you start for three years and you

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Speaker 1: Oh you're disrespecting me. It seemed like you just took

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go earn it. Um did you think about

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Speaker 1: and uh, that's part of you know, the business. You know,

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Speaker 1: So I feel like that just helped, you know, gave

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Speaker 1: how I get too low about it. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: Now training camp starts and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it just breaks the game. Yeah, it was a little

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Speaker 1: but you know, I just did everything I could get

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Speaker 1: because I know the preseason is, you know, the most

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Speaker 1: your father passed in January, and that's been something that's

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Speaker 1: motivated you. Um, how close were you, guys, And I

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Speaker 1: don't see how difficult it was, because it's incredibly difficult.

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Speaker 1: How much of a factor is that in your life

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Speaker 1: right now? It's a big factor. Man and my dad

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Speaker 1: he sent me motivational texts for every game, and really

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Speaker 1: he played football as well when he was alive, and um,

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Speaker 1: it was a major as are lost for my whole family. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it's just motivation just to keep going because that's

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Speaker 1: you know, he just wanted me to stay motivated and

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Speaker 1: really what I'm trying to do, just dedicated to my dad. Now,

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