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Speaker 3: It's been a long time serious. Been a long time,

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Speaker 3: so I've seen you guys. Yeah, I guess how long

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Speaker 3: Love and Theft yep. Yeah, but how would they expect

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Speaker 1: And guess what you all this they're throwing whisky out

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Speaker 3: And now they're putting it out without you guys actually

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Speaker 7: Anymore so in my top eight though. Still you know

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Speaker 3: There's four of you. And is it Love and Theft?

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Speaker 7: But now it's like we're one of the few bands

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Speaker 1: So and Brian actually is like we went we were starting,

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Speaker 7: We actually on this record had.

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Speaker 3: How'd you guys feel about being four people in a

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Speaker 3: I don't think of you guys anything but a duo.

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Speaker 5: I think some of our virginal fans that met us

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Speaker 3: Would you sign a deal with three of you?

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Speaker 7: So we're like, all right, let's go see if Jim

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Speaker 3: He's not pretty good, So do you worry that he's

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Speaker 5: Think Montgomery Gentry at the time had just gotten off

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Speaker 3: You're in a group six months earlier, you just said

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Speaker 3: think that was my introduction to you guys, A little

442
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 3: bit of Heaven and an angel that Yeah, that song specifically?

443
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 3: Who wrote that song?

444
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,240
Speaker 7: I wrote it with Eric Pasley and Jeff Copeland.

445
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 3: Okay, so whenever you guys were cutting it, was it

446
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,680
Speaker 3: always written to be eleven Deft song?

447
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 7: Yeah?

448
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 5: I think when we wrote it for like you wrote

449
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 5: it for you. Yeah, And even when we were recording

450
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 5: it that like I remember Tom Bukobac like it was

451
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,479
Speaker 5: just jamming behind the sol He's like, man, of all

452
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 5: these songs, like I really like this one resonates with me.

453
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 7: It's like it has this cool I.

454
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 5: Think he referenced Joan Jet And whenever Tom Bukobac gets

455
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 5: excited about something, it's like like, oh, maybe we have

456
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 5: something here because he's playing on every single record, I mean,

457
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 5: one of the best guitar players in the world. I mean,

458
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,439
Speaker 5: so to hear him say that kind of stuck with us.

459
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 5: And then Sony wanted to push a different song as

460
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 5: the first single, and every radio station we went to

461
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 5: everywhere was like, hey, you start if you come with

462
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,959
Speaker 5: this single, we'll start playing it tomorrow. And we begged

463
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 5: Josh E. Sler and then Keith Gale to switch the single,

464
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 5: and they finally did.

465
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 3: Like, so they had to pick another song. Wasn't they

466
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,959
Speaker 3: just wanted to like they had led with a different song.

467
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were on radio too, or pushing another song?

468
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 3: What was that song?

469
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 7: She's amazing?

470
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: And so they pivoted and how fast did that song

471
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: actually get some real teeth and it's actually to like

472
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 3: get in the thirties.

473
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Speaker 5: It was actually pretty quick, like cause like our second

474
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 5: single and the third single, I guess it was just

475
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 5: a second single over at Lyric Street. It was like

476
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 5: our fastest moving song, and Angelis actually moved really quick,

477
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 5: like kind of into the top forty, and then it

478
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 5: was a real battle from like forty to twenty.

479
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 3: That's the monk, yeah, trying to get out of that

480
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 3: muck because everybody's fighting responsor.

481
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 5: But then as you know, there's that muck kind of

482
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 5: trying to just get on in a chart and also

483
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 5: which I know that's changed now and.

484
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Speaker 6: Then muncky again at like eight, let's take a quick

485
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Speaker 6: pause for a message from our sponsor.

486
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Speaker 8: And we're back on the Bobby Cast.

487
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Speaker 3: So when did it get really like unbelievably cool, Because

488
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 3: there's a phase even in my career, there's a phase

489
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 3: where I'm like, I'm wide eyed and I feel like

490
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 3: I can take on the world, and then I kind

491
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: of realized I can't. I've been fed a little bit

492
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: of humble pie a couple of times, and then I

493
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: started to have some success and I'm like, oh my god,

494
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: this is what it's like to actually when was that

495
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: face for you guys whenever you go through it, but

496
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: you're like, we are this is kind of weird. This

497
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: is so cool. It's got to be when Angelizes started

498
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: to really hit, like we're able to feel it when

499
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: it's top fifteen. Yeah, the show's getting bigger and you're like,

500
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: this is crazy one percent.

501
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because we were started doing our own filling

502
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: our own clubs, which normally we would open for someone

503
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: else the club for you guys.

504
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: Tim mcgralso was awesome for us because I he was

506
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: like the person I like grew up listening to and

507
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: loved the song writers that wrote records and all that.

508
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: So we got to do that and the Warren Brothers

509
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: got us on that tour and we did a whole

510
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: tour with him.

511
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: That was pretty much. That was that big for me.

512
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: When was it for you?

513
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: Eric?

514
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 3: That you just kind of can't believe how cool it's getting.

515
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 5: I think probably like you said, once Angelis got kind

516
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 5: of top thirty and you started seeing people show up

517
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 5: really really early and standing in line for shows and

518
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 5: singing every word to a record when there's only been

519
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 5: a couple songs on the radio, That's that's when I

520
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 5: think for me, I was like, Wow, who really like this?

521
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 5: Like maybe, and I think you also in the business

522
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 5: at that time it was like if you could just

523
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 5: figure out a way to get a number one record

524
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: like that was that was the benchmark that you had

525
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 5: to get to to have any type of long lasting success,

526
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 5: it seemed like. And then at the time it seemed like, Okay,

527
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 5: you get a number one and then they just start

528
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: flowing and coming after that, and then we realized that's

529
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 5: really not how it works. It's like you have to,

530
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 5: you know, grind and work your hardest for every song.

531
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 3: And it does seem like that from Afar that it's well,

532
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: if you get one, they kind of opened the door

533
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: of the secret club and then you're just allowed twenty right,

534
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: But I ain't really like that. Yeah, it ain't really

535
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: like that. So Angelize goes and crushes. What'd you guys

536
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: come with? After that?

537
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 7: We came with a song called running out of Air

538
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 7: right after Angelize.

539
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: Like we were running out of it? Well, I know

540
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: that song.

541
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 7: It was more like on like the pop rock side.

542
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I really liked that song.

543
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it kind of had like a cool, different

544
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 7: kind of more more pop rock vibe.

545
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: I was here by then. I had like twenty fourteen,

546
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen something like that.

547
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty fourteen.

548
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy to hear those songs makes me feel

549
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 3: like you ever hear a song and you're just kind

550
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: of back in that spot.

551
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's a cool thing about music. It's like

552
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 7: our music. It's like when we play it, even in

553
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 7: a live show, it's like I go.

554
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: Back to, you know, when we released that in my head,

555
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 5: and it's it's fun to relive all those memories.

556
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: When you guys were killing it. I was such an

557
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: idiot here in this town. How such an idiot? Just

558
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 3: like I had no idea I was getting find a

559
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: million bucks doing things I probably I wrote about in

560
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: my first book. But it's like, you guys are almost

561
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: a soundtrack to my idiot days. You know. Yeah, I

562
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: congratulations from respective it was supposed to be.

563
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 5: It was fun watching you come in and do things

564
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: on your own terms, like because we had been, you know,

565
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: on everybody's morning shows, like, and you came in there

566
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 5: are no rules, like, you just did it how you

567
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: wanted to do it. And I think that's what was

568
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: always so inspiring and still is to me when I

569
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 5: look at you in your career, it's just impressive because

570
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 5: you didn't seem to give a shit what anyone else thought,

571
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 5: and you just did you.

572
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: You know, I think it was I wasn't that talented,

573
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: so I couldn't act like I cared. So I just

574
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: did it the only way I could, like get by,

575
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: and people are like looking at me, such a rebel,

576
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm a rebel, look at me.

577
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: So Angelize hits man, that love it Air. I could

578
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 3: listen to that song run out of Air? That almost

579
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 3: a jam. Do you write that one?

580
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 7: No, we didn't. That was actually Josh Osbourne and Shane

581
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 7: McAnally and Matt Jenkins.

582
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 3: That's like the early days of Josh and Shane. How

583
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: far did that song go?

584
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 7: Got into the twenties on the chart.

585
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: And they didn't release it for like three months after

586
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Angelize was like number one, and they waited a sore spot.

587
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: All right, now let's get it in. They waited three

588
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: months though, why would they do that? We have no

589
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: clothes still, but no, really, why would they do that?

590
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: Let's see about it.

591
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 7: You gotta take a man, Gary Overton. Little period at

592
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 7: Sony in between Jogoi.

593
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Was a shift in management over at the Yes and

594
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: so you'd think you guys got lost in that mix

595
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: or not prioritized, because they were prioritizing shifting in and

596
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: out that CEOs.

597
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 7: I think that was part of it.

598
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 5: I mean, Gary Overton signed us to our first publishing

599
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 5: deal at EMI, and we thought like, oh, he liked

600
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: our music, he liked our writing.

601
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 7: He signed us over here.

602
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 5: Maybe he's gonna bring that same energy over to you know,

603
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 5: being the chairman at Sony, and we thought it was

604
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: going to be a really good situation. I think I

605
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 5: wouldn't say he got in over his head, but he

606
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 5: just was being pulled in a million different directions. He

607
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 5: had just signed I think three or four different female

608
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 5: solo artists and they hadn't really broken a new female

609
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 5: in a while, so I think like Joanna Smith and

610
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: Kristin Kelly and a couple others like they just he

611
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 5: was like, nope, we're putting out these three singles before

612
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: we put out the next Love and Theft.

613
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: So it was number one.

614
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was four months that we waited before we

615
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 5: put that out, and we lost it seemed like we

616
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: lost all the momentum.

617
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: So I would say that's enough of a time period

618
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: in this at least to how this industry was then

619
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: to lose all momentum. It felt that it almost feel

620
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: like you're having to start over again, if.

621
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Speaker 5: That's how it felt, and it didn't. I didn't feel

622
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: like there were I think maybe to radio, and some

623
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: of our friends at radio were like, it didn't seem

624
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 5: like he had the confidence in your and y'all.

625
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: That he looked like to Like people are adding the records,

626
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: They're like, well, if they're not gonna sure, they're not

627
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: going to prioritize themthing my playlist isn't either.

628
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: Is that frustrating for you guys?

629
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was frustrating, But then I mean,

630
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 5: I guess everything happens for a reason. So looking back

631
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 5: on it, it's like, Okay, well, maybe if we had

632
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 5: put it out a couple months earlier, we could have

633
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 5: written the coattails of our own song, and maybe that

634
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: would have helped us get into the chart a little

635
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: bit sooner.

636
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 7: And something like Pizza or something like that that I

637
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 7: think got top thirty.

638
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 3: Whenever you have a song that's really assive, like Angelize,

639
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: let's say you guys never put out another song after

640
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: Agilize ever. Could you tour on that the success of

641
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: that song and just play shows forever? I think, yeah,

642
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: that's a good chance.

643
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah there is, but it's it wouldn't be. I don't

644
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: think it would pay our bills at this point, but

645
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: it would. You still get to go do shows based

646
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: off of Oh yeah, I remember that song?

647
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was so big. Do you ever I

648
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: heard it at Kroger the other day.

649
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 7: I heard it this morning at Target.

650
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: Really yeah, that's and it's also like what they call

651
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: it recurrent, meaning the song was so big then and

652
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: it still sounds so good to play as of what

653
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: they call an older song, like that's cool, it's still

654
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: played in freaking Kroger or Target because I can play anything.

655
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: That list of songs you can play a Kroger or

656
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: Target is five thousand songs. Yeah. Yeah, so that's gonna

657
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 3: be pretty cool. Uh, your kids, you're as old at

658
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: a ten ten and then my youngest is four, and

659
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: what about you?

660
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: My son is nine and my daughters six.

661
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so you haven't n that's wild. Yeah, never felt

662
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Speaker 3: so old. You guys came in here a nine year old.

663
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Do they know how? And I mean

664
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Speaker 3: this in a loving way, do they know how? Like

665
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: cool their dad's because the dads aren't cool now, it

666
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, But do they know how

667
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: cool their dads used to be.

668
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. I don't know if mine does.

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Speaker 7: You think Camden sort of gets it because you're not

670
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Speaker 7: cool now.

671
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Speaker 3: You can't be coold to them. You're when you're seven,

672
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: sure your dad, but you're different kind of cool. You're

673
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Speaker 3: a superhero. But eventually they're going to know some of

674
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: the some of the stuff that you guys.

675
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Speaker 1: Like sometimes I show him Blake, sometimes I show him

676
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: something like and remind him, Yeah, dude, I did that, bro,

677
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: So it's more respectful.

678
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Speaker 3: So what about the Taylor Swift song? Like that? You

679
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: got a nine year old that's pretty cool to be like.

680
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that.

681
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: He she my mommy.

682
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Speaker 1: He knows about it, but I don't know. I'm not

683
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Speaker 1: sure he's into Taylor Swift, so it's not as cool

684
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Speaker 1: to him. And my daughter hasn't got to that stage

685
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: yet of where she is listening to Taylor Swift yet

686
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: like that much to her.

687
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Speaker 5: And I think at times, like I don't even really

688
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: grasp like how cool it actually is. I mean, she's

689
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: the biggest pop star arguably in the world.

690
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Speaker 3: I mean, oh yeah, she continues to get bigger. It's

691
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: just weird because she's in her yeah, seventh season being

692
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: a celebrity, and she still continues to get bigger. Weird.

693
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: It's a weird thing like that. That machine runs really

694
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: strong and smoothly over there does And it all started

695
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: right here. I mean, obviously you guys went on tour

696
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: with her, but I just went about the kids thing,

697
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: like do they think do they come to shows at ten?

698
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Speaker 3: And do they think it's cool or they annoyed they

699
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Speaker 3: have to go to a show?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think my oldest things it's really cool,

701
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 5: but they both are obsessed with it. So like I

702
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: think just seeing us on a big stage is really cool.

703
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: Like see mephis this year. We had an awesome crowd

704
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: down at the River. It was it was just really cool.

705
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: And he came home and got in the cars like that.

706
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Speaker 7: That was awesome.

707
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Speaker 3: That's awesome. That make you feel good.

708
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 7: That makes me feel really good.

709
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Speaker 3: Yeah, dang, that's cool. That's why I want to have

710
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: kids one day, so they'll be like, Dad, you're awesome.

711
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Speaker 2: Like Eric.

712
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Speaker 5: And he plays the keyboard and plays the piano there,

713
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 5: plays the guitar a little bit too, so like I'm

714
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Speaker 5: hoping that like him seeing that kind of stuff, will

715
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Speaker 5: make him more passionate about it.

716
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Speaker 3: Do you want it? Do you want your kids to do?

717
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: You want your kids to do music?

718
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Speaker 7: I do?

719
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Speaker 2: Really?

720
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Speaker 7: I think so?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it's like, I'm a handy guy. Like,

722
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 5: we have a couple of businesses, me and my wife, dude, like,

723
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Speaker 5: and I enjoy working with my hands. I enjoy other

724
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Speaker 5: creative outlets and stuff. But there's nothing that brings me

725
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: as much satisfaction as creating a song from nothing.

726
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Speaker 3: Yatisaction pay the bills. You know, in this creative world.

727
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Speaker 3: I would never want my kid to do anything creative

728
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: because it's such a you shot in the dark.

729
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Speaker 2: Even if you're good, it's stressful.

730
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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you're great, you're like And I tell

731
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Speaker 3: people a lot for whatever job they want to do

732
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: in the arts, everybody wants to do it. That's why

733
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: nobody gets paid a bunch. Everybody wants to be a

734
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Speaker 3: singer or a comedian or podcast. Everybody wants to do it.

735
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Speaker 3: That's why doesn't pay anything because everybody can kind of

736
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Speaker 3: do it. But it's the people that can do it

737
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Speaker 3: really well, but can find that special connection. But what

738
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Speaker 3: does that even mean?

739
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Speaker 2: You know?

740
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Speaker 3: It's like actors who can't get on insurance, Like you

741
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: get to make a certain amount of money just to

742
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Speaker 3: get on insurance.

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Speaker 7: And after I've battled that for years, and it's.

744
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Speaker 3: Like there's some really talented people that for some reason

745
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: just can't even get to the point where they can

746
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: get insurance. So I'll be like, don't do anything creative,

747
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: like learn math. That's what I would tell my kids.

748
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Speaker 3: But that's really cool that you guys are so supportive

749
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Speaker 3: and your kids doing music, because I feelin like I

750
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: was just so lucky to I worked hard. Don't get

751
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: me wrong, but you have to there's just something that

752
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: you can't really pinpoint when it comes to why creative

753
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: things work. So the fact that you can tell your

754
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: kids to do it, good for you guys. They must

755
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: feel confident in yourselves. I have no confidence in me.

756
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I don't feel like I would tell

757
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Speaker 3: my kid to do that.

758
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Speaker 5: And I don't know for me personally, Like I battled

759
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 5: imposter syndrome even still after doing it for twenty years,

760
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: it's like, am I good enough? There's so many talented

761
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: people in this town. It's like you constantly are second

762
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: guessing yourself. But I think that also sharpens your brain,

763
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 5: it drives you, affects your work ethic, and then so

764
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Speaker 5: I don't know if my son is passionate about music

765
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: and loves it, I don't want to ever discourage anything,

766
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Speaker 5: because I mean, I think that's what was so exciting

767
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: about all of it For me personally. It was the

768
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: unknown and taking a leap of faith and stepping into

769
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: something that everyone's telling you isn't gonna work. And then

770
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: when it does work, it's that much more rewarding and

771
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: you feel a greater sense of accomplishment.

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Speaker 7: I think, what was your.

773
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Speaker 3: Family like supportive wise, and you're like, I'm gonna move,

774
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna do the duo deal, see you later, Charlotte.

775
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: I think they were supportive in a sense like I

776
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: don't think my mom or my dad thought that it

777
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: would work. It's like I think they were both expecting

778
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: me to move back within a year because I was

779
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: gonna be so discouraged, and I kind of just kept

780
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Speaker 5: my head down and knew that it was something that

781
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 5: I wanted. So I was going to work my ass

782
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: off almost in a sense, to prove both of them

783
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: wrong and show them that hey, I don't have to

784
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: do this. I don't have to go get a degree.

785
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: I don't have to do it the way your dad

786
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: made you do it. And I think for me it

787
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: was almost like I had something to prove to myself ultimately.

788
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Speaker 5: But then I also wanted to kind of show my parents, like,

789
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 5: you know what, there's different ways of getting there, and

790
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: there's more than one way to get a cat, and

791
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: this is how I'm going to do it.

792
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Speaker 3: So yeah, the cats get anything's always weird. I never

793
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: had a single person skin a single cat, and I felt, yeah,

794
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: I did the cat, same same, but never were actually

795
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: a cat. Did you ever almost go back home?

796
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 7: I never did.

797
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: Know, never had a cross a point where you're like,

798
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm might have to give this up and just move back.

799
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 7: Nope.

800
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 5: I decided I was going to figure out a way,

801
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 5: whether it was on the production engineering side, for the

802
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 5: writing side, I was going to figure out a way

803
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 5: to make a career out of music.

804
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: What about you, Steven, did you ever almost go back home?

805
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: I didn't.

806
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I never did.

807
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Speaker 1: And once I got here, I was like, oh, this

808
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: is it, this is the spot. And what also, my

809
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: brother used his graduation money to help pay for us

810
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: to move up here. So I have my brother with me,

811
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: I canaan with me. My dad was making trips back

812
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: and forth. My mom moved up here after I moved

813
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: up here after my parents got divorced, so my sister

814
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: was with her too, and my little brother.

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Speaker 3: You can't leave everybody, that'd be rude. So have you

816
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: guys noticed with your music putting it on social media

817
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: all or just playing on social media it driving any

818
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: sort of ticket sales at all? Specifically from that because

819
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: I with my stand up, I never put anything online

820
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: because I was like, I don't want to kill jokes

821
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: if it's up. The old adage watch can't put a

822
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: joke up because if people hear it, you can't tell

823
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: it again. But I really noticed in this last tour

824
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: when I started to put stuff up, tickets would sell

825
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: every time I would post something, because usually would be like, okay,

826
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: announcing a tour. Now some of the radio to say

827
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here, and stuff sales or it doesn't

828
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: move on to the life do the shows. Hopefully it's great.

829
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: But I would put clips up and then I wouldn't

830
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: really know notice in that same time when it woul

831
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: put stuff up and if it hit the algorithm too,

832
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: A little bit a bad one up. Oh, I blame

833
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: the algorithm, the algorithm because the joke wasn't good. I

834
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: know that the algorithm. Yeah, but I really saw it.

835
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: I really saw numbers change because of what I was

836
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: posting on social media because it would catch an algorithm

837
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: and people that didn't follow me already would stumble across

838
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 3: it and they would buy tickets. How has that happened

839
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: with you guys?

840
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: We actually are horrible as social media, so I don't

841
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: know if it's helped or hurt.

842
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: I will say when we do post purposefully, it does definitely,

843
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 5: like you definitely notice an immediate.

844
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: Will take it from me. I was like, why am

845
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: I even gonna do this? Because my people already know me?

846
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: That's what I would think. They're already know me. They

847
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: were going to come with they want to come. But man,

848
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: I started, and it would just take like a clip

849
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: to catch just to catch that way of that algorithm

850
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: because who knows who knows why it is? By the way,

851
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: you never know what's going to blow up. And then

852
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: you like a show in Arizona would sell really well,

853
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: and you're like, why you go look at the where

854
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: that clip was like shove down people's throat. It's in

855
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: freaking Arizona, And so that's really been a game changer

856
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: for me. Is that something you guys feel like you

857
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: have to prioritize more so now than you ever have

858
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: because it's not natural.

859
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: We've been having yes, we've been having talks about like

860
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: coming up with a plan of like especially with this

861
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: album coming out, and like we need to, like we

862
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: need to start doing it because everybody else is doing it.

863
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: If you don't do it, you're just getting left behind

864
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: as far, especially like TikTok and at.

865
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 5: This day and age also it's like the reference TikTok

866
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 5: and social media just in general, it's like you have

867
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 5: to be really careful with what you do put out there,

868
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: and at least from my perspective, it's like you watch

869
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: friends get canceled just because of an opinion on something,

870
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 5: something gets taken completely out of context, and then potentially

871
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 5: that can ruin your entire career because you said one

872
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: stupid thing that you didn't even mean to come across

873
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 5: that way and then it does.

874
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 7: So for me personally, it's just you watch.

875
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 5: People live and die by social media, and it's like

876
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: we've done it for so long by trying to let

877
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 5: the music speak for itself. You know, there's a certain

878
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: like shameless promote promotion that sometimes feels a little bit

879
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: dirty and uncomfortable, Like you want other people to validate you.

880
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: You don't want to have to like push yourself and

881
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 5: shove it down people's throats. But the most successful people

882
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: are doing that, and it's like you have to figure

883
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 5: out what it's a healthy balance.

884
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: And it's a weird thing too to watch somebody play

885
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: music on TikTok because it's either going to be really

886
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: good or again just really cringe and you're like, oh,

887
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: what even the approach with how they play it? How

888
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: And one of my friends, I don't want to say who,

889
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: and I'll just say she. She's like, I really need

890
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: to get on TikTok and I need to do more.

891
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: But I did one video on TikTok and I felt

892
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: so lame. Yeah, she goes, because people can do it

893
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: and look cool, she said, But I played and I

894
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: just felt like I was trying too hard. Yeah.

895
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: Well, it's like you're trying to make it look like

896
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: you're not trying too hard, But at the end of

897
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 5: the day, your lip syncing man at the beginning of

898
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 5: our career is like, oh, if you even use a

899
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: track live, it's like, that's not authentic, that's cheating. So

900
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 5: it's like that you have lip syncing to a recording

901
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: just doesn't feel authentic because I want you to hear

902
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: what I sound like singing it live and we're all

903
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: so you can either tell if I'm a good singer

904
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: or not.

905
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: So help me understand this record again. I want to

906
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 3: go back to the bus because I'm so confused. Yeah,

907
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: there's record coming out December first, but it's not a

908
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: record that you guys are putting out. It's a record

909
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: you already did. So I was talking to Mike because

910
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: we tried to schedule it a couple of weeks ago,

911
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I got sick or if

912
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: you guys did. Why did it? So it wasn't my fault?

913
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 8: Oh thank god.

914
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 2: We said we weren't going to do unless we could

915
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: be in the new studio.

916
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: Got it, okay. I didn't know who it was I was.

917
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: I was hoping it wasn't me, but I remember you

918
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: guys not being and so I was disappointing because I've

919
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: seen you guys in a long time, And I asked Mike,

920
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: I Saiday, are they putting out new music? And he

921
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: said kind of, And even then I was confused. So,

922
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: but you guys are happy it's coming out, yes, so,

923
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 3: and you're promoting that's coming out, but you're also promoting

924
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: Better Off, right, Yes, I'm just give you so much

925
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: of promoting. I'll be honest with you.

926
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: I think if we, like, if we had just put

927
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: out Better Off, then we were about to put out

928
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 5: this other new project that I think we'd be sort

929
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: of frustrated just because something we didn't own was could

930
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 5: potentially not take the wind out of ourselves and hurt

931
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: the promotion of the stuff that we do own. But

932
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: I think since we released the one project right out

933
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: a year ago now and then this other one, we're

934
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 5: not really on any strict timeline with again, Like we're

935
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: just excited that the songs that we had literally poured

936
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 5: three years of our lives into, and like we were

937
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 5: getting frustrated making that record because it's like we feel

938
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 5: like it's done, Like can we just wrap this thing up?

939
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: Like how do you mean to feel about this? If

940
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 3: I like it, do you mean to like support it? Yeah?

941
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like we we are a place where we

942
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: need we need it to do well.

943
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: We don't because to help us book more shows, to

944
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: help keep the momentum going.

945
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: And before we put out our other EP, what's the

946
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: best song on it?

947
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 7: Oh?

948
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, what kind of breath is the best song on it?

949
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, as far as new we already know that one.

950
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

951
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, my favorite song on the product is a song

952
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: called thought About You. I thought about it and Tim

953
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: McGraw actually put it out, cut it and released it

954
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: as a.

955
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: Single after we'd already recorded it.

956
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, we record the song called thought about You

957
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: and think, thought about Me, thought about God, everything, love is,

958
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: everything is.

959
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: I thought about songs the song yea, yeah.

960
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we recorded it and because the Warm Brothers

961
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: they're like, dude, check this song out, we're like oh,

962
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: and they wanted us to cut it, so we cut it, recorded,

963
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: it was gonna be on the album, but when since

964
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: the album never came out, Tim McGraw they were like, well, shoot,

965
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do it here, and we'll give it

966
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: to Tim mcgrawl and he did it and was top

967
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: ten for him.

968
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: So now we're gonna have Now we're gonna have that

969
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: on the album. It's our version.

970
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: It's almost like you're covering a song, but we had

971
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: a first Yeah, that's funny. And so you don't get

972
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: to pick a single and you so they're not really

973
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: going to put a single out.

974
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: We're hoping that a song office record will take off

975
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: on which one.

976
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

977
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: There's a song called how Many Drinks, which is really cool.

978
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: That's given another.

979
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Kind of chance turned up.

980
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: How Many Drinks?

981
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: Is it going?

982
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: It's to get me?

983
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: But Batman and Robin is is the coolest song we

984
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: have on there because it's the only song we've ever

985
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: really written about being dads and having kids, and it's

986
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: about our sons, like.

987
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm Batman, He's Robin and our cardboard Batmobile. No one

988
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: can stop us still got.

989
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: To go.

990
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 7: Star.

991
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: So it's not about YouTube, No, it's about it's about

992
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: like one of us. No, it's about you and and

993
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: E and nurse. I'm Batman, my son.

994
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: That was the track I really though, And I was like,

995
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: I'm not asking how much of this Batman love you two?

996
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: So you guys wrote this about being a daddy. Did

997
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: you ever cry while writing a song?

998
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: Cried when I was writing that song because of it's

999
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: because I just you know how much.

1000
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: I love my kid.

1001
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm an emotional person anyways, and it was just like

1002
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: it was just it was emotional to say some of

1003
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: those things when you hear that, when you hear the lyrics,

1004
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: and you'll understand, like when you or when you listen

1005
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: to it, you'll understand why you can maybe.

1006
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 3: Cry during the song. But it's not like a sad song.

1007
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: Just touch it. Yeah, it's it's personal.

1008
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: And I've never written a song about being a dad,

1009
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: and so I was saying how I felt with Eric

1010
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: in there, and we're both new dads, uh to sons,

1011
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: and so it was just emotional.

1012
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 7: Right.

1013
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: We were on a tour bus with Josh Leo, I.

1014
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 5: Think, and Andrew Petrov Petrov and I remember I was

1015
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: still asleep and Stephen came in and was like, in

1016
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: the bunk areas, Hey, I just started this awesome song

1017
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 5: with Josh.

1018
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 7: You gotta come finish it with me.

1019
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: And I remember Josh getting emotional and shedding a few tears,

1020
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 5: and it was cool hearing him from his perspective.

1021
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 7: Talk about being a fire.

1022
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 5: And at that time, Dylan, his son, was like twenty

1023
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: five years old, I guess, but and now Josh is

1024
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 5: a grandfather and his son and his inside a baby.

1025
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: So I distinctly remember that day and then writing that

1026
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: song and seeing him get emotional about his son, you know,

1027
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 5: who was already pretty much grown, and it kind of

1028
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: put things in perspective for me. And I remember he said,

1029
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: basically the cliche phrase, don't blink, it'll be over before you,

1030
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 5: before you know it.

1031
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: Do you feel lucky that he can say, come rite

1032
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: on the song if they're pretty much done with it,

1033
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: that they you know, they gids. You gave up fifty

1034
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: percent writing, you know what I mean? They come hop

1035
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: on this song here. It was cool.

1036
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 5: They were nice enough to like leave like half of

1037
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 5: the first verse and half of the second verse open

1038
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 5: so I could contribute and write it from my perspective,

1039
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 5: also about my son and things that, you know that

1040
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: I could take from even my experience with my dad

1041
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 5: and him raising me and.

1042
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: Crazy to see you guys as like adult men. We're

1043
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: all adult men, but it's just like real kids.

1044
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 7: When we met though.

1045
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't seen you in a while, but you

1046
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: still look young and you just have more hair.

1047
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 8: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

1048
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 8: Bobby Cast.

1049
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: Are you guys still you still enjoy it?

1050
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm in general I'm obsessed with it.

1051
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: Did you have a face? Did you get tired of it? Ever?

1052
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: Do you have a phase?

1053
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: I've never have, really never.

1054
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 7: I never wanted to stop you never, just like I

1055
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 7: don't want to do music.

1056
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: I wish we were I wish we were at a

1057
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: higher six, like having more success right now because we

1058
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: could be doing instead of you know, we're doing other

1059
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: things to supplement our income, like and that's like stressful

1060
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: for me because I've only known this and so like

1061
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: to think of about like having to do something else,

1062
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: Like Eric's really talented all the other things that I'm not.

1063
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of like, what am I going to

1064
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: do if this doesn't keep working?

1065
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 7: But no, I hate all those other things that I

1066
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 7: might be good at. This is what gives me joy.

1067
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 5: And like again, like I said before, I love creating

1068
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: something from nothing. It's just an amazing feeling.

1069
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: You say you and your wife have other businesses.

1070
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: What do you guys?

1071
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1072
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: We have a bounce house rental company that's so legit.

1073
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: We've out white white bounce houses bounce houses.

1074
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: Of those two where the dream just to like buy

1075
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: a bunch of them and just because yeah, those are

1076
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: things that people always need. I mean it seems yeah,

1077
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: that's like do you do you ever set do you

1078
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: set them up? Ever? Yeah?

1079
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: Really?

1080
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how much if I want to want just

1081
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: for me adult?

1082
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 7: I think we do it for like five four hundred

1083
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 7: bucks for hours?

1084
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: How many?

1085
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 7: Six hours? That's prett expensive, but they're very nice.

1086
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: It's the only white ones really.

1087
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 5: And then my wife does balloons also, like the balloon

1088
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 5: art and stuff, not like the Amazon arches and stuff

1089
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 5: like that, but she we just did the grand opening

1090
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 5: for the Voodoo Donuts.

1091
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: And the press.

1092
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, not like animals, but like just big massive installations

1093
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 7: and stuff.

1094
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: But she uses like an artistic vision. Yeah, dude, that's awesome.

1095
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 7: Picture done. That's She's just really creative when it comes

1096
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 7: to So.

1097
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: You guys are doing art, but if you're an artist,

1098
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: you're kind of an artist. Meaning if anything that I do,

1099
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: I'll do this, but I'll go do comedy, I'll write

1100
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: or something. It doesn't matter what I'm doing. I have

1101
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: that itch to always create something. Yeah maybe good, maybe terrible,

1102
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: but like I always want to create something. It feels

1103
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: like you guys have that too, Like, no matter what

1104
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: the situation is.

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00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 5: There are other businesses we like design and install themed bars,

1106
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 5: like pop up bar type things, Like we did a

1107
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 5: couple of hotels in downtown Nashville, like Dream Hotel did

1108
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: a spring Flower bars.

1109
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: How do you even have that idea, that concept to

1110
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: do that?

1111
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 7: Well, my wife kind of like started it and had

1112
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 7: the idea of the stuff.

1113
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: She followed online and stuff, and then it was like, Oh,

1114
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 5: my husband's really handy and can build anything.

1115
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: So you're but you're handy as well, like you can

1116
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: do very practical things.

1117
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like during COVID, I renovated my hole upstairs put

1118
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 5: a studio in, Like I used to do tile and

1119
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 5: build decks and renovations and stuff. And it was a

1120
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 5: general contractor for a little while.

1121
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I can't fix anything, but.

1122
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 7: The bars are fun.

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Speaker 5: We just did one over above doghouse on Demumbrians that

1124
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Speaker 5: It's called high Notes. It's a cannabis themed bar.

1125
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: Does it stay there?

1126
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 7: This one does? Yeah. The other ones are like three

1127
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 7: to four month installed.

1128
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Speaker 3: You enjoy that creative part. It's like writing a song.

1129
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: I feel like we want to create this and then

1130
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: when it's done, you kind of look back and go, Okay,

1131
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: everybody sees this one piece, but you can kind of

1132
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: see the layers of house it was built.

1133
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, because for me, I usually walk into an empty

1134
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: room and then in my mind, I know my wife's

1135
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 5: going to come up with some crazy idea and then

1136
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: I have to kind of bring that back to reality

1137
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 5: and figure out a way to make her crazy idea doable.

1138
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: So like for that bar especially, it was really cool

1139
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: because I did it kind of in pieces, and we

1140
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 5: had like a permitting issue halfway through, so I kind

1141
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: of took a break and you got to court and

1142
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: like watch redesign a few things and do it.

1143
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 7: But it turned out really great, and you know, it's

1144
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 7: just another iron in the fire, I guess, but it's

1145
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: a cool creative outlets.

1146
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, to do creative things in other space. Yeah, that's

1147
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: really cool.

1148
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 5: But it also makes me appreciate the music that much

1149
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 5: more because those things they pay well, the money is

1150
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 5: not an issue, but it's not like there's just something

1151
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: about making music and coming up with melodies and creating

1152
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 5: the bed of instrumentation that goes around that to support

1153
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 5: it and to create that emotion that you can't really

1154
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 5: do when it comes to like a physical build out

1155
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: or something like that.

1156
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 7: So I think it all. My greatest passion in love

1157
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 7: will probably always be music.

1158
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: I think, when you were twelve, what do you think

1159
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: you'd be doing right now?

1160
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: I was twelve, I think I was going pro, Dude,

1161
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: I was going pro much more ohing pro basketball is

1162
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: going to be.

1163
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: I was, hands down, I knew it. I already knew

1164
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: I was going pro.

1165
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: What about you?

1166
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 5: Well, now that I understand genetics, I know that I

1167
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 5: never had any shot pro athlete. So I'm trying to

1168
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: get my kid into golf now.

1169
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: I already told my kid.

1170
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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, there's there's barely any six feet white

1171
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: kids in the NBA. We'll let you play while you're

1172
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: in school, but you should be doing golf football. You

1173
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: can be six foot and be white football player.

1174
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, there's none. They're all all they're

1175
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: all four and six foot five.

1176
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 3: Do you have any grandparents, great grandparents that are tall

1177
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: that I do? Could accidentally six three.

1178
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: Max, I'd be pushing it.

1179
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: He'd have to be the greatest little white player in

1180
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: the world to even make it. But he's an incredible

1181
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: baseball player. He bets bets both five ten elite baseball

1182
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: players see. And he's a great quarterback, you know, Baker Mayfield,

1183
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: quarterback of the ten Bay Buccaneers three and one. He

1184
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: is He's like not even six feet. I don't think

1185
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: he might be six feet you know.

1186
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: Tell me, I'm on my sports show. I preach Baker. Yeah, Mike,

1187
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: who said, who's Baker?

1188
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: All the way?

1189
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: Baker till death. And here's the reason I was gonna say,

1190
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: you're a razorback right, Yes, well, but my wife's big sooner.

1191
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: But that's not the problem. The good thing is that

1192
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: Baker was He grew up in Austin, Texas and listen

1193
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: to me growing up all through high school. And I

1194
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: messaged him one time and he was like, hey, man,

1195
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: I'm a big fans, so I'm a Baker all the way.

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Speaker 2: It's all I Yeah, it looks really good.

1197
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: So what'd you think you do at twelve?

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Speaker 5: Eric, I think I wanted to be a professional soccer player,

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Speaker 5: But it was right when I was really getting into

1200
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: the bass guitar, so like that's when I kind of

1201
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: like it was my first Like my dad was music minister.

1202
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 5: We had a lot of like big Christian artists that

1203
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 5: would come through our church. We had like big three

1204
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 5: to five thousand member church, big megachurch type place that

1205
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: was full of legalism and politics. But right besides that,

1206
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 5: like that's kind of where I got my first taste

1207
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: of thinking it'd be kind of cool to play music

1208
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: and you know, in front of a lot of people

1209
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: on stage.

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Speaker 2: So did you want to be always this? Oh that's awesome. Yeah.

1211
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Speaker 3: I mean I remember being in kindergarten and you do

1212
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: one of those deals where it's like, what do you

1213
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: want to be when you grow up? Top three things?

1214
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: And I wanted to be on the radio, stand up comedian,

1215
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: and on television, But I don't know what it's like

1216
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: to not know. Yeah, And I would think when kids

1217
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 3: were like I didn't know, I don't know what I

1218
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: want to do. We in college like I don't know

1219
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 3: what I want to do. It was like someone speaking

1220
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: a foreign language because I always knew exactly what I

1221
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 3: wanted to do. Cool, But I think I just wanted

1222
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: to do that because I was searching for love from

1223
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: some area and I must have had a little taste

1224
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: of that early. You're like, oh, I can get people

1225
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: to let me this way. That's cool by being funny

1226
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: or by being you know, saying something smart. But yeah,

1227
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: I've always I've always known this with your dad being musical,

1228
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 3: do you feel like it's nurture or nature that you're

1229
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: so musical?

1230
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 5: I think both, because he didn't he didn't ever push

1231
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 5: me to do it. It's kind of like he gave

1232
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: me the tools to do it if I wanted to.

1233
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 5: And then I think, similar what you said, like being

1234
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 5: on stage in front of three thousand person congregation and

1235
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 5: hearing people clap for you and then tell you, oh,

1236
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 5: that that was really good. You should really think about

1237
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: singing more like that kind of you get that kind

1238
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: of yeah encouragement, nothing like it, and you feel that.

1239
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 7: It's like, holy cow, that's awesome. I want that again.

1240
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 5: So I think I think he would definitely like he

1241
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: nurtured in the sense that he taught me how to

1242
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 5: play my first few guitar chords, taught me basic music theory,

1243
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: and gave me a good foundation. But I don't think

1244
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 5: I ever felt like I was pushed or pulled in

1245
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 5: any direction. I felt like it was always like for him,

1246
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 5: it was never a full time job because he still

1247
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 5: kept his other job while he did all that, even

1248
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 5: though he worked harder at that it seemed like than

1249
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 5: his other full time job.

1250
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: But do you feel like being exposed to music, even

1251
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: if you weren't purposefully trying to learn it taught you music.

1252
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 7: I think so yeah.

1253
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: And I think I mean, if I look back at

1254
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: the like some of my most important like core memories,

1255
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: I associate like music with different time periods of my life.

1256
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 5: Like remember like DC Talk in the Christian World an

1257
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 5: Audio Adrenaline, and then that was like one of my

1258
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 5: first concerts, So when I was like probably like nine

1259
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: or ten to like ten or twelve or twelve or

1260
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 5: thirteen like that, Like I associate those bands with that

1261
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 5: time of my life. And then like my early middle

1262
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: school and high school years was like all Eagles, all

1263
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 5: Tom Petty.

1264
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 7: Then I went through like a hip hop phase.

1265
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: So it's like when I look back at my life,

1266
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 5: it's like music kind of tells the story and is

1267
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 5: the soundtrack for my life. So for me, it's like

1268
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 5: I look back at all the music that I was

1269
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 5: forced to listen to and then chose to listen to.

1270
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 5: And I do think that I really played a huge

1271
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 5: role in shaping who I am as a person. But

1272
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 5: then also as a musician, and it gave me a

1273
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 5: love I think for all different types of music also,

1274
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 5: So I don't know if that no.

1275
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're saying that, I'm thinking about that twenty thirteen,

1276
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, a little bit of heavy. I mean, that's

1277
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: part of my bo That song was killing it while

1278
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: I was confused and running on fumes and breaking every

1279
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 3: piece of glass in Nashville. Like just a career. Why,

1280
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: it's a rough couple of years. But like you're right

1281
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: that when I heard that song, I was listening to

1282
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: you guys again just to kind of get in the

1283
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: space before I walk down here. I was listening to

1284
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: that song. I was like, man, this feels like when

1285
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: I was getting in trouble a lot.

1286
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 6: That song feels like, let's take a quick pause for

1287
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 6: a message from our sponsor, and we're back on the

1288
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

1289
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: Where did your love music come from?

1290
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: So I grew up since I'm a preacher's kid, I

1291
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: kind of got thrown into singing in the kids choir,

1292
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: and then the lady thought I could sing good, so

1293
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: she maybe do the solos, and I didn't want to

1294
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: do it, and then I would our family would sing

1295
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: songs at church and harmonize and all this stuff, you know,

1296
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I started learning sing harmonies.

1297
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: And then I heard smells like Teen Spirit by Nirvana

1298
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, I already could. I already got

1299
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: piano lesson, so I know now how to play the piano.

1300
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: So I went to my one friend at school day

1301
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: I was a guitar player at the church, and I

1302
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: was like, dude, can you teach me how to play

1303
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: this song?

1304
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 3: Did you play spell like teen Spirit? Yeah?

1305
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: That's the first song I ever learned on piano on guitar,

1306
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: because so he taught me.

1307
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: I was thinking, I had the beautiful arrangement on piano,

1308
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: got it.

1309
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: That's the first song I learned. And then he taught

1310
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: me on electric through that's it. Yeah, yeah, I'd be

1311
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: a weird acoustic song. But he pretty much taught me. Yeah,

1312
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: he taught me. He got me started on playing guitar,

1313
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: and then I learned from there. So and then Breakfast

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Speaker 1: at Tiffany's was the second song I ever learned, like

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Speaker 1: deep blue something yeah yeah, and then and then I

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Speaker 1: and then I fell in love with country music not

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Speaker 1: long after that, and the songwriting aspects of it, and

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Speaker 1: and with the Warm Brothers having that connection and they

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Speaker 1: were kind of like my mentors and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So that worked out really well.

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Speaker 3: So he's not I'm gonna allverybody to do. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: got six songs on the on Better Better Alf also

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Speaker 3: a song, Yeah, but it's also the EP, and we

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Speaker 3: own the masters, so that's fun and they own the

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Speaker 3: master so stream it, stream stream that and then we're

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Speaker 3: going to be supportive on December first of the music

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Speaker 3: that comes out. And I feel like now I finally

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Speaker 3: have the clarity to be supportive.

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Speaker 7: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know, but I didn't know what you wanted

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Speaker 3: me to do. You want me to be supportive until

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Speaker 3: a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: We didn't really care we wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: So I was confused even when I was reading the notes,

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Speaker 3: like I don't understand I'm not supposed talk about the record,

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Speaker 3: and he's like, we'll just ask him. So I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to hear it, and if something's awesome on it,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it. Thank you, yeah, and want to

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Speaker 3: see what happens.

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Speaker 2: And it was cool.

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Speaker 5: I mean Jim ed Norman is a legendary producer also,

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00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 5: so to work with Josh who had done Alabama and

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Speaker 5: the original version of Fishing in the Dark, and then

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Speaker 5: have Don Henley's best friend basically you know, working with us,

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Speaker 5: and oh well, when I was arranging strings on Desperado,

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Speaker 5: I would have made this chord choice, but you know,

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Speaker 5: for this time to do this, and they hear him

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00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: tell stories about Glenn Fry, and like then hear Josh

1350
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 5: talk about Glenn Fry and Jimmy Buffett when he's playing

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00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 5: guitar for both of them. It's like it was one

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 5: of the most surreal, cool record making processes I'd like

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Speaker 5: to hear.

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Speaker 3: But it was also a long time ago though, right

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00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: it was. That's also crazy too.

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Speaker 7: It was six seven years ago.

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Speaker 5: But I think that that album represents that time in

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Speaker 5: our career, in our lives really well. And I think

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Speaker 5: that's probably why we're most excited for it to come out,

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Speaker 5: because those songs that we did, right, like, you can

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Speaker 5: tell like from that record to the kind of the

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Speaker 5: newer stuff that we're doing now.

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Speaker 7: It's it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 5: It has a little bit more of a throwback sound

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Speaker 5: to it, and I think it showcases kind of where

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00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: we were at in our career in our lives and

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Speaker 5: it shows the growth.

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Speaker 1: And it still flies though. I mean it still sounds current,

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Speaker 1: which is good. Our new stuff is just it's just

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Speaker 1: a little different.

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Speaker 3: But let's get some of that stuff on social media. Boys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and don't look back, meaning because I look back, I

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: look back at post I'm like, oh, ain't doing very well,

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Speaker 3: So I'm my suck. You can't do that. I got

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Speaker 3: to get better at that. I post up, just let

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Speaker 3: it just need lot left for a month and then

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Speaker 3: go look.

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Speaker 5: Well, in every other aspect of my life, I'm really

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Speaker 5: good at that, like just not living in the past

1380
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Speaker 5: or the future, just kind of living in the president,

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Speaker 5: enjoying all of it. But then when it comes to music,

1382
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Speaker 5: it's like I'm hyper analytical about all of it.

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Speaker 3: Do you gets play golf?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: Stuff really that we added it to our writer, so

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Speaker 3: they build you a golf course.

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Speaker 1: So looking that you want to come play show you're

1388
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, okay, we took a bunch of things off,

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Speaker 1: so our writers like you know, Sharpie's gum and off

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Speaker 1: and like in a round of golf for four.

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Speaker 2: So it's super fun. We getting to play.

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Speaker 1: We're playing poppy Hills next week, which is a heavily

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Speaker 1: beach course. So it's like sick we played played Sawgrass

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Speaker 1: because of our new found a better golfer.

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Speaker 2: No, Eric Han's down?

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Speaker 3: Are you pretty good?

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Speaker 7: Keep?

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Speaker 2: He's good?

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Speaker 3: Nobody good everisds are good? So the fact that he's

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Speaker 3: saying that you have you played Bobby Hills? Oh hey,

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Speaker 3: read reopened the curten.

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Speaker 7: Here you simulator over here? Oh wow, yeah it's I

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00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 7: got a bonner. Yeah, it's awesome here. I've been trying

1404
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 7: to follow your golf career since.

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to be a golf influencer now

1406
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: even though I suck. It's my new my new passion.

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Speaker 7: But I stopped drinking, and then I got addicted to golf,

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Speaker 7: so you.

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Speaker 3: Know, and as much of a half joke, like I

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Speaker 3: have so much addiction in my family that I'm addicted

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Speaker 3: to stuff, but just not I know, if I drink,

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Speaker 3: I'd be I'd be the best drinker ever, I'd win

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Speaker 3: every drinking. I would just be a sport i'd create,

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Speaker 3: I'd be a drinking influencer. I would just go full end.

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Speaker 3: But I have those that I do positive, so I

1416
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: because there's gonna be something I have a super addicted personality,

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Speaker 3: and golf is that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. It's such a beautiful game. It's like you have,

1419
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 7: it's you in a station.

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Speaker 3: It's awful.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's a one person to blame. It's the

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Speaker 7: best mental exercise. And I do it to myself every day.

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Speaker 3: Why do you come home mad? It's something you go

1424
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: voluntarily do And I'm like, what do you come when

1425
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: you're so pissed about how you play? But you wanted

1426
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: to go do it? You practice, you buy the clothes,

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: you watch the videos, you have a simulator, and then

1428
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: you go and you build up to doing it, and

1429
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: you come when you're mad. Why do you keep doing

1430
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: that to yourself? I don't know.

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Speaker 7: True.

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: Well, guys, uh, congratulations on the record coming out December first.

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00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: I hope it really does big things, that allows bigger,

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Speaker 3: bigger things.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: I think that's that's that's what I hope to And

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00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: you don't step on my golf simulator. It's not today.

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01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: It's not ready for you today.

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01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 7: Okay, it's not ready.

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01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: We should play sometime. Do you guys live in town?

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01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm in.

1442
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm you have to say where you live. You're good,

1443
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm up thirty five minutes north of town. Okay, I

1444
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: almost let that one out, so it's not so.

1445
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 7: I can be to any golf course in time in

1446
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes.

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01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: Can you love me fair enough? Congratulations on the record,

1448
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: coming out and Instagram at Love and Theft TikTok Love

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: and Theft Official, where you're going to start seeing more

1450
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: authentic on let me see Unaffected like that music, because

1451
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: you're going to start You're committing to me. Now, you're

1452
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: going to start putting more up there. We're going to

1453
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: all right, awesome, good to see you guys, you

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01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 8: Too, Thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast

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Speaker 8: production