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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program that keeps you up to date

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Speaker 1: with your Houston Texans. John McClain is with us tonight.

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Speaker 1: We also have some best of Bill O'Brien, the extra questions,

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Speaker 1: the land yapp questions in our final segment tonight, but

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Speaker 1: let's start out with the general Freddy Houston Chronicle and John.

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Speaker 1: A lot of momentum for this team. Six games in

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Speaker 1: a row, six and three on the season, first place

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Speaker 1: in the AFC South. It's quiet and around here because

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Speaker 1: so many people have taken off this week. Bill O'Brien's

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Speaker 1: given the players Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday off.

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Speaker 1: They deserve it. Winning six games in a row. They've

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Speaker 1: been getting a lot of victory Mondays off, which is

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Speaker 1: good for them, great motivation. And I gotta tell you Mark,

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Speaker 1: seeing this team win blowout like Dolphins go to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: win by thirteen against the defense that's still got all

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Speaker 1: its components, and then escaping Denver. I've seen so many games,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Texans and Oilers had lost there on

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Speaker 1: late plays like that, and I thought sher McMahons was

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Speaker 1: going to make the field goal. He's got the leg

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Speaker 1: he's used to kicking in the altitude, and then he

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Speaker 1: gets the little high snap and he misses. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe it be And I know you've been told us

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Speaker 1: you were making a call of course in the booth,

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Speaker 1: but being down there on the field when he missed,

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Speaker 1: and I described it as the players were like roaches

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Speaker 1: with the lights coming on, just sprinting as fast as

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Speaker 1: they could and towards the and the guys coming off

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Speaker 1: the bench towards the field goal unit, and they were

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Speaker 1: just so happy. And people are saying, well, why are

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Speaker 1: they happy. They just beat the Broncos, Well, they just

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Speaker 1: won six in a row. They just pulled out a

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Speaker 1: game they very well could have lost. And and they

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Speaker 1: knew the bye week was coming. You don't have any

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Speaker 1: serious injuries coming out the bye week. You're going to

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Speaker 1: be in the best physical condition since the start of

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Speaker 1: the season, get some players back, and I think the

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Speaker 1: euphoria of all of that, and especially after the O

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Speaker 1: three start, every player remembers the O three start. Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien always says don't look ahead, but you never hear

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Speaker 1: him say don't look back, and looking back and remembering

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Speaker 1: what it felt like to b oh and three players

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Speaker 1: talk about that all the time. They say, you know,

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Speaker 1: we lost three close games, we could lose three close games.

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Speaker 1: We do not want to be there again. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the motivating factors. Yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: their best performance, but it was good enough to win.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the jubulation was because

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Speaker 1: once that fourth and eighth conversion was hit by Keenum

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Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders, I think everybody thought, oh boy, this

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Speaker 1: is it. You know, this is this is not good.

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Speaker 1: It's den verse or a long field goal is just

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Speaker 1: as good as a short field goal. Although the play

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Speaker 1: by Covington for the TfL to make it big, big,

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Speaker 1: big big yep, that was a big moment right there,

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Speaker 1: and I just think that everyone sort of had enough

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Speaker 1: moments to soak in that this is probably a loss.

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Speaker 1: No it's not. He missed it. Fantastic six wins in

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Speaker 1: a row, and they found a way to win. I

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Speaker 1: mean the formula is, don't throw it that much, run

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Speaker 1: it as much as you can, and play great ds

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Speaker 1: And also three consecutive games without a turnover for the

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Speaker 1: first time in franchise history, which I found amazing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Omar from Texas pr told me that, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot about the history of this team, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I did not know that they had never gone

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Speaker 1: three consecutive games without coughing the ball up. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was huge. It was huge, and it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: happen a lot because it's just hard in this league.

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Speaker 1: But I think in Bill O'Briant, Bill O'Brien is doing

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Speaker 1: a really smart coaching job. I'm one of the people

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Speaker 1: that follow the team that go crazy when he constantly

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Speaker 1: runs on first down for a yard or two. But

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Speaker 1: as I wrote today, there's method to his madness, and

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Speaker 1: that's because he's protecting Watson. He's exposing him so much less.

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Speaker 1: He mentioned us Monday that the Buffalo game in which

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Speaker 1: he got sacked seven times and knocked down twelve more,

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Speaker 1: that is like something had to be done. In those

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Speaker 1: first six games they were three and three, Watching was

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Speaker 1: throwing thirty six point one passes. He'd been sacked twenty

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Speaker 1: five times, knocked down sixty five more. At the time,

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Speaker 1: they were rushing only twenty eight times for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine yards. And in these last three games they're

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Speaker 1: three and oh, Watching has eight touchdowns no interception. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he's been sacked five times four those were his fault

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Speaker 1: coverage sacks, knocked down ten And they're running thirty five

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Speaker 1: than eight team the league? Two hundred seventy four times.

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Speaker 1: That's the Texans go to the head of the class,

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Speaker 1: all right, So Bill does that to control the clock,

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Speaker 1: you know, to help the offensive line. I did. The

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Speaker 1: whole thing I wrote about today was with Mike Devlin

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Speaker 1: because we got to talk to assistant coaches yesterday. But

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Speaker 1: he talked about how Brian's play call is really helping them. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons they're running the ball a lot,

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Speaker 1: they are passing less and even though the tackles have improved,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that help. Remember the pre

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Speaker 1: snap penalties, how much they heard of, not an issue anymore,

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Speaker 1: and in the red zone they would get penalties, not

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Speaker 1: an issue anymore. I think they have one eight touchdowns

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Speaker 1: They've gotten out of that thirty first spot. So everything

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Speaker 1: is working, and it starts, I think with O'Brien's play calling.

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Speaker 1: So the next time you want to pull your hair

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Speaker 1: out because he runs on first down for two yards

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Speaker 1: to Lamar Miller Alfred Blue, think about why he's doing

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Speaker 1: it and the results he's getting. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: the way they won games for a good portion of

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, except with a much better quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy who can make the

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Speaker 1: plays for you, extend plays, and you know it's Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson back there instead of t J. Yates and we

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Speaker 1: love TJ. Or instead of Brock Osweiler. Maybe we're gonna

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Speaker 1: love him so much. But you get my drift here.

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Speaker 1: I have a much better quarterback playing with this formula,

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Speaker 1: and when you need to throw it, if you are down,

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Speaker 1: you know he can do it. You just don't want

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Speaker 1: to have to have him do it because he still

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Speaker 1: has that injury recovery thing going on in the off season.

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Speaker 1: I think we were at the NFL meetings and Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel said at the AFC Coach's Breakfast, we felt like

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Speaker 1: that as long as Watson had to bawl in his hands,

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Speaker 1: were capable of He's capable of making a play. Well

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Speaker 1: that that means as long as he's healthy, they're capable

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Speaker 1: of winning any game. You know, Washington's the next opponent,

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Speaker 1: and the Redskins just lost two starting guards for the season.

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Speaker 1: Their left tackle, Trent Williams was already out. Their right

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Speaker 1: And Fitz almost pull that game out when he came

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Speaker 1: when he played in place of Winston on Sunday and

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Speaker 1: they lost. But the Redskins could lose two in a

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Speaker 1: row and hosting the Texans with all kinds of injuries

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Speaker 1: up front, and that's another thing. Texans have had a

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Speaker 1: lot of injuries, but it's not what it's not to

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Speaker 1: Clowney and Watson and Merciless and my saying they're more important.

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Speaker 1: They've overcome those injuries because they're a better team. But

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Speaker 1: they're much more fortunate injury wise this year than they

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Speaker 1: were last year. Well, with will Fuller out of the season,

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Speaker 1: they make the trade for d Various Thomas. We talked

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks to get ready. Now it's not like

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Speaker 1: they're here in the building practicing all day long during

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Speaker 1: the bye. But Thomas does have more chance or more

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Speaker 1: of an opportunity to review the playbook and get on

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Speaker 1: the same page with John Perry and Bill O'Brien. He's

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Speaker 1: still got a lot going on. Yeah, he's got to

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Speaker 1: find a place to live, he's got to get his

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Speaker 1: You know, that wide receiver you throw that quick throw

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Speaker 1: out there that doesn't work a lot. He worked with

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Speaker 1: him and one reason. He's big and strong and he

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Speaker 1: made that trade. And I'm really excited to watch to

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Speaker 1: marry us Thomas down the stretch because he's never played

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make a big contribution over the

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Speaker 1: second half. And I can't wait for the Washington game.

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Speaker 1: I almost wish the game was Sunday. I think we

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Speaker 1: all want to see Kiki QT get back because we've

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Speaker 1: seen what he could do. Nice thing, and also Deandrey

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Speaker 1: Foreman eventually maybe yeah, I know, but if you if

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Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, now you have all these extra

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Speaker 1: I know he's a separate issue, but getting q T

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Speaker 1: be really good for this offense. Watching what Will Fuller

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Speaker 1: makes you appreciate the durability and reliability of DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: they wanted Thomas, because he has been durable. They know

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Speaker 1: he's gonna answer the bell every game. And and if

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Speaker 1: they could get Q team back in the slot instead

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Speaker 1: of having to play Tyler Irvin and Joe Webb and

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Speaker 1: think how much more dangerous they'd be. And the guy

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Speaker 1: I'm really fired up to see. Although they're it's too

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Speaker 1: bad there's not two footballs and Watson was an extras

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Speaker 1: so they could throw the tight ends more. Let's seeing

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. Is there a gude has He's got an

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Speaker 1: almost available touchdown to catch ratio? You know he has,

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Speaker 1: He has a couple other but I want to see

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Speaker 1: more of him. Yep, Well we all do, and I

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Speaker 1: think you will. But you're right, there's only one football.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to spread it around everywhere you want to go.

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Speaker 1: It's just fun to watch right now them operate. Them

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Speaker 1: being able to run the football and Watson be able

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Speaker 1: to do everything you can't offer that. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: if they had Drew Brees and that offensive line and

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Speaker 1: or the Patriots or the Chiefs, what these receivers and

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Speaker 1: the ball like that. Well, they've got a defense, though, John,

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Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. I mean, you have a

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Speaker 1: defense that's climbing the charts here. And we've talked about it.

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Speaker 1: How Romeo Cornell's defenses do better as the year goes on. Well,

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Speaker 1: here they are doing better, and they hold the Broncos

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Speaker 1: looking at here. You're looking at a defense that's eighth

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Speaker 1: in the league, or you know, top eight and scoring,

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Speaker 1: top eight, and yards I think are seventh and scoring.

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Speaker 1: They're in first down runs, which means they're putting teams

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Speaker 1: in second and long. And they haven't given it more

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00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: of ranking, but it's this first year and all right,

428
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: they're they're getting by without him being in the lineup.

429
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: He's that extra Oligneman right now. But when you look

430
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: at Justin Reid, when you look in the first round, yeah,

431
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: the Jordans. I was about to say that Thomas is,

432
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: but the Jordans, and you know, I just like what

433
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: I see out of this class. Calum Bay and Douke

434
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: Gedge for and all those people. Qt Qa's on the field. Yeah,

435
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: they gotta get him on the field, but when he's

436
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: been on there, he's been good. The other thing is

437
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: this the pickups, and Rick Smith was pretty good at

438
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: this as well. But Brian Gaine looks very adept at

439
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: being able to go to the street get guys to

440
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: come in. Look at the special teams players. They're getting

441
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Speaker 1: a J. Moore the other game the other day making

442
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: some big hits in that game. You look at Buddy

443
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: Howe making a big hit in that game on special teams.

444
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: These special teamers weren't around here in camp yet they're

445
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: really making this team better. They're finding guys that fit

446
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: and then they're coaching them up. Yeah. I think this

447
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: is a really good coaching staff. I think the addition

448
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: of John Bogano coaching outside linebackers long time a defensive coordinator,

449
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really good move. I thought

450
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Speaker 1: keeping Anthony Midgett, who'd been the number two secondary coach

451
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: for four years, I think he's doing a terrific job

452
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: and you never knew how that was gonna go. I mean,

453
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: he's been on the staff, but now he's the head

454
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Speaker 1: coach of that position group and bringing in Brad Seeley

455
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Speaker 1: takeover special teams, and here's a lot of things to

456
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: help build beyond special teams because he's been in the

457
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: league thirty years and he's really knowledgeable. That was a

458
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: tremendous move. And hanging on to some guys West Welker.

459
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: Denver won to hire Welker and they would let him go.

460
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: You think we was in the happy he stayed here

461
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: instead of going to Denver, and there's I just I

462
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: think that's a really good coaching staff. And one of

463
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Speaker 1: the reasons they've been able to do what they are

464
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: is because of that. And when you're bringing in new players,

465
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: if you don't coach them up, it doesn't matter how

466
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Speaker 1: well they fit your system. And they're coaching them up,

467
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Speaker 1: all right, John, when you like at josh Kies, that's

468
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: a good example right there. Yeah, coming in for a

469
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: Thursday game and then making a couple of big plays.

470
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: That's credit to him, and it's a credit to them.

471
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: I thought in the preseason it looked pretty good. I

472
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Speaker 1: thought he's a bubble player to make the fifty three

473
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Speaker 1: man roster, My fifty three man roster that had a

474
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Speaker 1: Dick Vital like sixty players on it. Anyway, the call

475
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: to the Jags will get together this weekend. Now the

476
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: AFC South, the Texans have a little padding there, but

477
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Speaker 1: that could have rode very quickly if you lose game

478
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: and the Colts continue to stay hot, or the Jags

479
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: get hot, or the Titans, who had this sort of

480
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: interesting performance against the Cowboys. We'll get to that in

481
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: a moment if they find a way against the Patriots.

482
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: But let's start with the Colts here, John, because they

483
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: are basically on fire. Here. You gotta call it what

484
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, they're starting to play very well offensively.

485
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: Luck is lighting it up in passing yards. They're protecting him.

486
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: He looks great, and it looks like the Colts have

487
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: found themselves. Remember when he was throwing all those record

488
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: breaking numbers of passes early You know what, They've run

489
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: for over two hundred yards in the last two games,

490
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: or averaging thirty nine point six points. He's only been

491
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: sacked ten times this season because they rebuilt their offensive

492
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: line with two rookies and one veterans and shows you

493
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: it could be done in the draft. And I think

494
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: Indianapolis second best team in the league because of Luck,

495
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: because of the vision then division. Yes, yes, I think

496
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna Their schedule doesn't look all that tough. I

497
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: think ultimately it's gonna be a three team race. In

498
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: Jack'sville is not going to be in it. They're about

499
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: to lose their fifth consecutive game, all right, So you

500
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: think the Titans are still alive here, but the Colts,

501
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: how about this? Not to bog anybody down with numbers,

502
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: which means I'm about to bog you down with numbers.

503
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: They're sixth in the league in points score, their tenth

504
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: in yardage. Okay, but they're climbing those charts right and

505
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: luck is unbelievable with the passing yardage, I believe. Second defensively,

506
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: they're still down the line a little bit in their statistics.

507
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: But we'll see how they do. Now, do you pick

508
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: the Colts to beat the Jags this weekend? Will you

509
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: do it? I definitely take the Colts to beat the Jags.

510
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: All right, one team's going in one direction and the

511
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: other team's going in another, right, So you think the

512
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Jags are done? Now? What about the Titans here? And

513
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: we can always get back to the Colts. They got

514
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: to play who the New England Patriots at all? Out?

515
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: If they if they were to beat New England, Oh

516
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: my god, like Jacksonville beat New England early in Jacksonville.

517
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: But I just it's I don't think the Patriot's gonna

518
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Speaker 1: win out. The Patriots averaging thirty six points during their

519
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: winning streak, Tennessee is allowing the fewest points a game. Yeah,

520
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: they're the best in the red zone. So it's gonna

521
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: be a really good test for the Patriots. It's gonna

522
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: be a lot of Patriot fans in Nashville that game.

523
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Speaker 1: And I think, of course the Patriots. I don't ever

524
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: pick against the Patriots. I think they'll win that game.

525
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: That'll be good for the Texans. Then you'll have Indianapolis

526
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: and Tennessee tied for second. Right now, the leads one

527
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: and a half games, so it'd be one game. Well,

528
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: you have all three division opponents coming to NRG Stadium

529
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee on Monday Night football, like we said, and the

530
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Cult are gonna come in here. It's gonna be another

531
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: utter shootout. You can ill afford to have that game

532
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: if it's a loss, be one where the Cults draw

533
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: even with you. You gotta find a way to make

534
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: that game. I hate to say, not mean anything, but

535
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: not mean as much as it possibly could if you lose.

536
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question I haven't. I'm doing

537
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: a story on page one A of the Chronicle for Sunday,

538
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: and I have got I'm going to start off with

539
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: what was the turning point from the three start from

540
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: being an O three loser to a six and three

541
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: division leader. Oh, I've got it for you. I bet

542
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: we're thinking the same thing. Go ahead, fumble recovery in

543
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: the end zone in Indianapolis. Oh, I was gonna say

544
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Frank Reich's decision, but it was Indiana. I don't think

545
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: it was Frank Reich's decision. I think that that now

546
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: let's say Reich. I mean that I thought the decision

547
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: actually was a pretty good one. I was really not convinced.

548
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: I didn't like the who they threw it too. I well, no,

549
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: I just backup Andrew Luck. Well, what did they have

550
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: on the field that day. Hilton was out of the

551
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: game at that point. I mean, everybody was a reserve

552
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: at that point, more reason not to do it. Well,

553
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: but they were so hot because the sack by Clowney,

554
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: the snow angel sack, made it third and really long,

555
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: and then they got a big chunk play to make

556
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: it fourth and fourth. I'm thinking they're gonna hit this

557
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: and this is not gonna be good. I that was

558
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: one of those players calling it. I was like, Oh,

559
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: here we go. Luck is just gonna kill us, and

560
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Joseph may it's the great play because all of a

561
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: sudden he snapped into press coverage on Chester Rogers as

562
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: opposed to giving him any kind of cushion, And I

563
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: think that made all the difference right there. Big play

564
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: by j Joe that that was a big turning point

565
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: right there. I had I got you. And I don't

566
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: know if it's the decision so much as the execution

567
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: or but and I appreciate your input, but for historical purposes,

568
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: it'll always go down right man to this city for

569
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: so long he is the villain in this one. How

570
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: about Dallas and the Jason Garrett punt instead of running

571
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: it with Zeke. But by the end they'd already won

572
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: a game. I'm just looking for one thing, and what's

573
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: decision became? Think about this, those first three wins, we're

574
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: all so close. Look, the losses were close to I

575
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: mean you have to call it like it is. People

576
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: who complain about those wins being too close, and they

577
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: got like, look, Tennessee, they're at midfield and they run

578
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: out the clock trying to get it at the field

579
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: goal range. I mean, that was kind of ridiculous play.

580
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: But or you know, it just didn't work out. He

581
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: didn't have any receivers to throw to. Whatever happened happened.

582
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: The point is this, you had a situation where you

583
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: could have easily gotten into field goal range and tied

584
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: that game up. And who knows what happens at that.

585
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: That's my far the worst loss. You know, Eli Manning

586
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: played great in next game, so it's that's all the Giants,

587
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: but the Titans game with the guys who were out

588
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: the fake punt touchdown that if they end up losing

589
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: something by one game season, I did the Giants too,

590
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: even though but Eli played great. He did, and I'm

591
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: not going to go back to individual plays, but to me,

592
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: once they score to make it a one score game

593
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: and they need the ball back, but the Giants got

594
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: a seventy five yard touchdown drive and put it out

595
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: of reach. To me, you needed a stop right there.

596
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: And I can't remember all the plays along the way

597
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: in that drive, but I know there are probably several

598
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: where you're just thinking, oh my gosh, he did it

599
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: to us again. And they've won six in a row

600
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: now since losing that Giants game. So they'll play Washington next,

601
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: followed by how to see let's continue to go around

602
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the league here with John McClain while we have him out.

603
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: You're right, the Titans seventeen and a half points per game,

604
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: they lead the NFL and scoring defense, Well that's about

605
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: to change. Yeah, what about Panthers and Steelers. Great Thursday

606
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: night game after those stinkerrows. We're getting like the stinkerrow

607
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: coming up with the Giants and the Niners. But they've

608
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: got a good one two weeks ago with the Tea.

609
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about Yeah, that was a that was

610
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: a good It's good for Houston. Carolina has been a

611
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: very vastly underrated team as great as New Orleans is

612
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: playing and Lawson's first game, Panthers only one game back,

613
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: and they still play each other twice in the last

614
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: three games. I believe Cam Newton is playing better than

615
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: any time in his career, including when his the MVP

616
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. Because NORV Turner when it comes to

617
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: picking an assistant Coach of the Year, NORV Turners got

618
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: to get serious consideration, came out of one year retirement

619
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: or whatever happened, and he gets tired there. Newton is

620
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: trip terrific. Pittsburgh does on a roll. No way, I

621
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: don't ever pick against Pittsburgh at home, and I'm not

622
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: picking against them on Thursday night. Hey, I'm just looking

623
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: ahead here, like I do. Like I'm not supposed to.

624
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: That Week sixteen game the Texans and the Philadelphia Eagles.

625
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are playing the Seahawks on Sunday Night football.

626
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if that sticks or if they flex out

627
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: of that one of the games they got. You know,

628
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta look at that week. First of all,

629
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: they love the Eagles, they love and the Eagles probably

630
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: are gonna get hot. Rights are probably gonna get on

631
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: a roll here, so there'd be a good chance that

632
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: could happen. Yeah, you never know. We know the last

633
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: one going at the start of the year. We look

634
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: whoa that Texans Jaguars game could get flex I'm looking

635
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: at Steelers at Saints, but that's a CBS four twenty

636
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: five game. I don't know if they can flex that

637
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: to a Sunday night that might be a protected game.

638
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I'm just wondering if that Texans Eagles

639
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: game gets flexed or not. I mean, I'm looking around

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Speaker 1: here at the other games that are available, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the only reason I say that because you know, it's

642
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Speaker 1: kind of flattering to be flexed into the primetime game.

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Speaker 1: But it's just for personal reasons because I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get back at six in the morning anyway. I'm

645
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: there anyway, So it doesn't matter to me. It doesn't

646
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Speaker 1: matter to you. You'll be in Philadelphia overnight, all right.

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Speaker 1: As far as other games this weekend general, anything else

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Speaker 1: catching your fancy, well you'll have to ask me, because, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me give you this. Saints at Bengals. Bengals are

650
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: still very much alive in that AFC North. They are.

651
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: They're right behind the Steelers. Saints. They're gonna lose at

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Speaker 1: some point. They're coming off this great victory over the Rams.

653
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Speaker 1: Could they have let down, They could, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: picking to lose. They've won it Minnesota. They wanted Baltimore,

655
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Speaker 1: So I'm going with the Saints. Okay. Are the Dolphins

656
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Speaker 1: we just saw them here. They're five and four though,

657
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: they're a winning team, and they're gonna be at Green

658
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Bay ugly over the Jets. Yea four intercepts. Can you

659
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: believe it? The midway point Packers have a losing record. Yeah,

660
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to bounce back. Yeah. Cowboys at

661
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Cowboys done and his garrick and

662
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Speaker 1: to get fired. I don't think he'll get fired during

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Speaker 1: the season. But that's what Jerry Jones said in twenty

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Speaker 1: ten when he dumped Wade Phillips during the season, which

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00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: led to Wade coming here as defensive coordinator. I'm taking Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Does Harball, John Harball lose his job? If he does,

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Speaker 1: he'll get a job before sundown? Yeah, they've got Would

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Speaker 1: Ozzie knew some do this? Would Stephen Biscotti the owner,

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Speaker 1: make him fire Hardball since he's retiring after the season,

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Speaker 1: or wait and let Eric to cost to the new

671
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Speaker 1: long time personnel director who's turned down multiple chances to

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Speaker 1: be general manager somewhere else for just this opportunity. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine they would fire Harball during the season, not

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Speaker 1: during the season, after the season, and then he gets

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Speaker 1: the Browns job if shelf life runs out on everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Browns though, are looking more for

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Speaker 1: an offensive guy who will put a college type offense

678
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Speaker 1: in there, and that the Hasms will offer Link and

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Speaker 1: Riley a blank Jack. Are you picking the Redskins over

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers this weekend or no? I'm bigging the Buccaneers

681
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Speaker 1: because they're at home. They just scored like twenty eight

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Speaker 1: thirty points with Fitzy. I think he's gonna work some

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Speaker 1: fitz magic on him. John. Thank you very much, Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, Mark, Before we get to Houston Methodist minutes,

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Speaker 1: and tonight's a source subject, isn't it always a source

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Speaker 1: subject with Houston Methodist minutes groin injuries? But before we

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Speaker 1: get to that. Bill O'Brien every week on his show,

688
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Speaker 1: we asked him the extra question presented by amage back

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Speaker 1: of texts. Something off field might be football related, might

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Speaker 1: be youth football related. In this case it is we

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Speaker 1: go the best of here with a couple of these,

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Speaker 1: the helmet rule and how you teach football to kids

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Speaker 1: these days? How is it different? We asked this of

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Speaker 1: the head coach recently. I think that we all have to,

695
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: all of us at every level, have to do a

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Speaker 1: really good job of educating parents on how we're teaching

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Speaker 1: proper techniques in football, because I think that's going to

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Speaker 1: be the big thing relative to our game over the

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Speaker 1: next you know, thirty to forty years. You know, where

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Speaker 1: are this game's going. And with all the studies that

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: are being done on CT and all that, look that

702
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: those things are real and we have to understand that,

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Speaker 1: and we've got to go into the communities. To the

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Speaker 1: best of our ability. We try to do things in

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Speaker 1: the offseason around here to help promote what we're trying

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Speaker 1: to do, what we're teaching at our level. But I

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Speaker 1: know that in Texas, especially where I live in Houston,

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Speaker 1: the coaching is really good at the youth level, like

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Speaker 1: really good. These Guys've seen them coach, see how they

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Speaker 1: do things, teaching the proper technique of you know, head

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Speaker 1: up shoulders, not leading with your head, not leading with

712
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Speaker 1: the top of your head, and teaching them the right

713
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: techniques playing with your hands, things like that. So I

714
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: think we're headed down the right road. We just need

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Speaker 1: to continue that because football is a great sport and

716
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: participation in football in some areas is down. Not really

717
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Speaker 1: in Texas, but I think in some areas of the

718
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: country is down, and we've got to keep keep football

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Speaker 1: alive for a long time. Because football is a great sport.

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Speaker 1: It should be easier for these kids to play with

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Speaker 1: that style versus guys who grew up with another way

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Speaker 1: of playing. Right, Yeah, I think so. I think that's

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Speaker 1: great point. I mean, I think these kids are seeing

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Speaker 1: how things are being officiated. I think the NFL does

725
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: a really good job of sending out videos on what

726
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Speaker 1: we're doing relative to how we're calling things, and uh,

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, I know that the different teams with their

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00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: their in house media people are showing some things on

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Speaker 1: their their websites too, So I know that everybody's trying

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Speaker 1: to educate the public on how we're doing things. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to the next Bill O'Brien land Yap question,

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Speaker 1: you want to bring a little Texans football to the classroom.

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Speaker 1: Sign up for Toro's Math Drills, presented by Cottago Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Math Drills to learn more. Let's learn more from Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: This extra question came in a recent show about Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien's biggest rival in high school. Who was that? Zavarian?

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Speaker 1: Zavarian yep, Zavarian High School in Westwood Message. The hasslebecks.

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Speaker 1: So when I went when I was coaching in for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, I live right down the street from Zavarian,

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Speaker 1: which was weird, but yeah, the hasslebecks. I mean, there's

744
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: been a lot of great players. That's a variant. Um

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Speaker 1: and uh there was a guy, great Camella that played

746
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Speaker 1: at Stanford and those the Hasslebecks, and I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of bunch of good guys that have played there,

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Speaker 1: and uh, we always we usually played late in the year,

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Speaker 1: not on Thanksgiving. I think they play on Thanksgiving now,

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Speaker 1: And it was it was. It was a pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: special that kind of thing. Yeah, bitter because a lot

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Speaker 1: of our teachers used to teach there and vice versa,

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Speaker 1: so because there was a connection with the school now

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Speaker 1: our schools and Danvers. Theirs was down in Westwood, so

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00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: there was a distance there, but there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of carryover, so especially with the faculty. A lot of

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00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: the players even here will say high school football, there's

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00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: nothing like it, the memories. What is it about high

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00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: school football that's so special to a player. I just

760
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: think it's one game a week with guys that you

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Speaker 1: know you're going to school with and then you're going

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00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: to battle with, and um, you know, the coaches are emotional.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of emotion and high school football that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. The crowds, especially here in Texas, but Friday

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Speaker 1: night high school football, I mean, you can't beat the crowd,

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Speaker 1: the town shuts down, everybody goes to the game. It's

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00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: pretty cool, the build up of the game during the week.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm wearing your jersey to school on Friday

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Speaker 1: or whatever or Thursday or whatever it is. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's pretty cool. A couple of land yap questions

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Speaker 1: the extra questions we ask presented by amerge Bag in

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Speaker 1: the Bill O'Brien shows recent episodes right there and little

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Speaker 1: known personal fact there. That's where I began my broadcast

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Speaker 1: career in those southern suburbs of Boston. So some of

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Speaker 1: the towns and schools he's mentioning are schools I'm very

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Speaker 1: familiar with. And I tell the story sometimes about me

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Speaker 1: broadcasting games in a car on a hill into a

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Speaker 1: tape recorder and then putting it on the air the

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Speaker 1: next day. Yes, that did happen. Actually come a long way,

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Speaker 1: and very happy about that and very happy to bring

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Speaker 1: you Houston Methodist Minutes this week with doctor Michael Hopson

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Speaker 1: of Houston Methodist Baytown Hospital. Doctor, how's it going very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, let's talk about groin injuries as

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Speaker 1: these vary in grades and how do these work? Doctor,

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Speaker 1: how do you evaluate groin injuries. Yeah, groin injuries can

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Speaker 1: be very difficult. They're obviously very common in the athlete

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Speaker 1: and can have all types of gradations and severity. So initially,

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Speaker 1: groin injuries are evaluated with an exam, most frequently either

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Speaker 1: due to a muscle strain or something that can be

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Speaker 1: cared for and treated with some rehabilitation and things like that.

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Speaker 1: But they can be as severe as things called stress

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Speaker 1: fractures in the groin, which need to be evaluated by

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Speaker 1: a professional, so they require a significant, you know, an

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00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: initial evaluation, but they're very common and usually are nothing

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Speaker 1: to worry about. Now, there are several muscles involved, right,

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Speaker 1: it's not just one groin muscle. How does all that operate?

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Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, the groin is in the hip region obviously,

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Speaker 1: and there's just a lot of different muscles in that

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Speaker 1: area that need to be considered. That mostly a classic

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Speaker 1: growing poll is due to the adductor longest muscle is

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Speaker 1: called the treatment you mentioned. There are stress fractures sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and I know that there's surgery sometimes, but usually what

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Speaker 1: does it take to treat a groin muscle injury? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Usually the groin muscle injuries are treated with a stretching program,

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Speaker 1: a rehabilitation program, some activity modification, and then sort of

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Speaker 1: a general slow progression and return to activity. When you're

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Speaker 1: talking about more severe injuries like stress fractures, does can

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Speaker 1: sometimes require surgery. And there was kind of on the

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Speaker 1: whole other side of the spectrum. But in the classic

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Speaker 1: groin stain spraining, those are usually mostly to the stretching

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Speaker 1: program and a rehab program. If you're trying to recover

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Speaker 1: from other injuries like knee or hamstring or whatever, are

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Speaker 1: you more susceptible to a groin injury? Absolutely yep. I

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Speaker 1: considered the hip to the toe all kind of connected

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Speaker 1: and intertwined, so it's really important when you're rehaving an

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Speaker 1: int the need cannot forget about the hip and not

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Speaker 1: forget about the ankle and calf and all those other

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Speaker 1: things and really do a good sketching program and all

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Speaker 1: those areas as well. Absolutely great infote, doctor, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for your time. Thank you, I appreciate it, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Michael Hopson from Houston Methodist Baytown Hospital. For the fall

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Speaker 1: sports season, Houston Methodist Orthopedics and Sports Medicine offers its

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Speaker 1: convenience sports injury clinics for athletes around the Houston area

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Speaker 1: to help them recover from injuries. Clinics are held Saturday

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Speaker 1: mornings in Baytown, clear Lake, West, Houston, Katie, Sugarland, and Willowbrook.

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Speaker 1: For more information, log out to Houston Methodist dot org.

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Speaker 1: Slash Athlete, the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Leading Medicine. Well that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: the show tonight. Thanks to all for listening, Thank you

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Speaker 1: general for participating. We've got Texans All Access for you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at six and all our shows this weekend despite

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Speaker 1: the bye, so check them out. Texans Extra Points, ABC

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Speaker 1: thirteen six thirty on Saturday, Texans Buzz eleven pm on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, or after the late News, and Texans Game

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Speaker 1: Day on KPRC Local two eight thirty am on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night, everyone, and go Texans.