1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Toomberg eleventh, to Washington, d C. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve, under to San Francisco, Bloomberg 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: nine to the country, US Exam General one nine team, 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus Aid Boomberg 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is taking Stock. Hi, I'm Kathleen. He's 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: my co host, Pim Fox. Out of the office today. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: In this half hour, we are going to be taking 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: a big picture kind of political look at some very 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: important events. Today. We've got Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: giving him an important foreign policy speech starting momentarily where 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: she's expected to attack Donald Trump on his lack of 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: a foreign policy vision. And we're gonna be looking at 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: the Opeque meeting today, no quota met downward pressure on 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: oil prices. If supply weren't lower in the United States, 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: oil prices might be falling more than they are. We're 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: going to take a look at these and maybe even 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: tie them together in a few important respects. Now, let's 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: tie it all together. We're gonna go to Charlie Pelton 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Issiam with a bloombig business flash, and I thank you 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: very much. Kathleen Hayes plenty going on. We've got the 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: jobs report tomorrow, but as you mentioned, we've got that 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: OPEC meeting today. Crude oil now up eight cents forty 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: nine O nine a barrel on West Texas Intermediate two 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent. And also the ECB decision. ECB 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: President Mario Draggy unveiling largely unchanged inflation forecast for the 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Eurozone even as its latest stimulus measures start to take effect. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: He also called on governments to play a bigger role 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: in cementing the region's pick up. The latest data point 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: to ongoing growth in the second quarter, though possibly at 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: a lower rate than in the first quarter. Looking ahead, 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: we expect the economic recovery to proceed at a moderate 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: but steady pace. The ten year of eight thirty seconds 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: zeal there one point eight oh percent. Filings for US 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: unemployment benefits to climb for a third consecutive weeks. Signalings 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: sustained firming in the labor market, jovels claims down by 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: one thousand. Tomorrow morning, eight thirty A on Wall Street Time, 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: we get the all important May jobs report. Payrolls seen 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: climbing by one hundred sixty thousand, the unemployment rates scene 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: falling to four point nine percent, SMP five hundred index 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: up two point. Stocks are rebounding. The SMP now at 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: one up by point one percent down, Industrials up twenty points, 42 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: a gain of point one percent, nastack of eight a 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: gain of two tenths of one percent, and at two 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: thirty two on Wall Street. Now, let's take a look 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: at other news from around the world. On Bloomberg Radio. 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Thank you Charlie from the Bloomberg News Room, my Ramie Innocentio. 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has said to unleash a major foreign policy 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: attack on Donald Trump at this hour, using a speech 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: in San Diego today to cast the likely Republican presidential 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: nominee as unqualified and dangerous. The former Secretary of State 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: plans to contrast her foreign policy experience with his. Meanwhile, 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are locked in a tight 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: battle in California. Clinton has a slight lead over Sanders 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: forty to forty in a new Field Pole a New 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal NBC News Maris Pole found similar results, 56 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: with Clinton leading Sanders for the state's primary is Tuesday. 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: The fallout continues from North Korea's recent missile tests. Bloomberg's 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: Michael Barr has more. The U. N. Security Council is 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: calling North Korea's failed missile launches flagrant violations. The Council 60 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: has strongly condemned the three latest launches. The council calls 61 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: them a grave violation of a ban on all ballistic 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: missile activity that's contributed to the country's nuclear weapons program. 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Michael Barr Bloomberg Radio more. What weather is on the 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: way for Texas emergency official state the Brazos River is 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: already four feet higher than its record and still rising. 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Donna Cheshire, who lives in Lubbick, says she's never seen 67 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the flooding so bad. I've seen it bad when you know, 68 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: in the cars would come and it would wash up 69 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: in the yard, but never where it would get into 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the house. But it actually came in my house. And 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the New York City lawyer says the city's police force 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: has thwarted numerous terrorist attacks, despite claims by some critics 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: that its methods do not work. Global News twenty four 74 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: hours a day, powered by our journalists in more than 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: one fifty news bureaus around the world. From the Bloomberg Newsroom, 76 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm Rainy in essentio Charlie and we thank you and 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: again recapping stocks higher across the board. SMP five hundred 78 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: index up two points to one again of point one. 79 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Vllett and that's a Bloomberg Business flash. This 80 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: is taking stock with Kathleen Hayes and Grim Box on 81 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. OPEC is going to stick to its policy 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: of unfettered production after members failed again to agree on 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: a new output ceiling. However, ministers are united in their 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: optimism that global oil markets markets are improving, and the 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: group was also able to appoint a news Secretary General, 86 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: Nigeria's Mohammed Barkindo, something that couldn't agree on last year. 87 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: Mr Barkindo gave some remarks today saying that the group 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: is going to work to regain the unity it had 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: had in the past and the confidence of the international 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: community UH, saying that OPEC is making a comeback as 91 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: it overcomes temporary difficulties. Now he's in Vienna today, not 92 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: only Mr Barkindo, but our next guest, Jason Shanker, president 93 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: of Prestige Economics. He's based in Austin, Texas, but he's 94 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: joining us from Austria today where Opek met. So, Jason, 95 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: what is your sense of the mood coming out of 96 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: this putting the best face on the fact that they 97 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: couldn't agree on a quota or is it is it 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: true that the meetings were not rankers, they were a 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: little friendlier and they're heading towards more of an agreement 100 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: in the future. So I think it's both. So I 101 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: think the eating was less rancorous. It was described as 102 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, amenable and friendly and the sorts of things, 103 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: and you know, it wasn't as it has been at 104 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: past meetings where you have people kind of storm out 105 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: of the meeting and that's not as good. But that 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: being said, even though it was a more positive meeting, 107 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: no production quota was adopted, No target was adopted. Uh 108 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: and UH. I know that the Saudis had worked very 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: hard to put together what turned out to be quite 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: a complicated proposal that they thought would make the interests 111 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: of both Iran and Saudi and all the rest of 112 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: the members, and yet it wasn't accepted and there's no 113 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: production number. Again, So where will the price of oil go? Today? 114 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: We've got West Texas Intermediate trading around forty nine dollars 115 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: and change just slightly higher. So it has certainly hasn't 116 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: um taken a beating on this news today? Is the 117 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: bottom in for oil now? Well, I think, you know, 118 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: if we look back to where we were in January, 119 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, I mean, we've come a long 120 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: way since those loads in January, but that doesn't mean 121 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: that there aren't downside risks. And I'd say, if you 122 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: wanted to assess where those risks are, I would probably 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: be looking at industrial medals prices like copper or aluminum, 124 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: or fair scrap prices, which, although we're stronger a couple 125 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: of months ago, have taken a beating in the last 126 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: six weeks um following a couple of very weak Chinese 127 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: p m I numbers. The schene Um just out on 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: the first of the month out yesterday showed that Chinese 129 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: manufacturing has been contracting for seventeen in the past eighteen 130 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: consecutive months. That's a year and a half of a 131 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: manufacturing recession in China's been going on, and that's thirty 132 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: of their economy. So that's hurting medals and there's a 133 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: risk as in the last two years, when the summer 134 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: driving season ends uh, that oil prices could follow medals 135 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: lower regardless of a supply demand balance. Well, you know 136 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: our Bloomberg story about keeping the status quo after feeling 137 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: to cree on output cap said, the fact that oil 138 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: has rallied about from the twelve year old January suggests 139 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: the Saudi led decision a couple of years ago to 140 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: maintain output amid a global glut, in fact maybe make 141 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: it worse. It's finally paying off with higher cost producers 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: cutting back. So I think, uh, that is partially true. 143 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: So that the um, you know, the the vet tolet prices, 144 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to to let go of the rudder and let the 145 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: market kind of find its own way has paid off. 146 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Higher cost producers have been forced out of the market. 147 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: More producers will be forced out of the market because 148 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: fifty dollars isn't very profitable for some producers, and campex 149 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: has been cut significantly in the United States. Now that 150 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: being said, while that has been good for OPEC market share, 151 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the prices are still low enough that this is problematic 152 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: for a number of opaque economies even at fifty dollars. 153 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: And if you look at some of the I m 154 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: F growth forecast or some uh, pretty dis more growth 155 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: forecast for some OPEC members in the year ahead. And 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: of course not all OPEC members operate on the same 157 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: cost curve, so this is something that is uh yeah, 158 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: it could could prove beneficial for OPEC providing oil into 159 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the market, but also hurts the profitability of some of 160 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: those members. You know. A very smart fellow named Jason Shanker, 161 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's you, president of Stige Economics, also quoted this story. 162 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: The lack of oil production targets bears for prices because 163 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: the hopes of ideal to increased in the past couple 164 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: of days. Jason Shanker says, say goodbye to OPEX efficacy 165 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: as united groups. So you don't think Mohammed Markendo is 166 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: the guy to to pull this group strongly together again. 167 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, is OPEC really over as the powerhouse of 168 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the oil setting market oil price setting market. No, you know, 169 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's over, and I don't think that 170 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: the Secretary General is the one who should be uh, 171 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, really put to task with pulling the group together. 172 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, I think it's unfortunate for the 173 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: group that that there were attempts to try to have 174 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: cohesion and it didn't come together. But after a couple 175 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: of meetings where there's no production target, something that had 176 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: been in place for thirty five years. Uh, you know, 177 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: I think markets look at this and they begin to wonder, Uh, 178 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: you know, does OPEC still have a leadership role. There's 179 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: not really a uniform set of decisions. What does this mean? 180 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Are they going to remain effective moving forward? Will things 181 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: improve when Iranian production gets back to sort of pre 182 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: embargo levels. Is that when there's going to be more 183 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: of a negotiation. Those are the questions out there right now. 184 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Jason Shaker, thanks so much for joining us. I hope 185 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: you have a nice time in Vienna where Jason's been 186 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: attending the OPEC meeting today. No output target met, he says, 187 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: that is still bearish for oil prices. I'm Kathleen Hayes. 188 00:10:54,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: This is taking Stock on Bloomberg Radio. Bloomber Taking Stock 189 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Willoughby since eighteen ninety eight, 190 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: New York City's boutique camera store for precision craft at 191 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Hossile Blood and Like a Cameras, plus a full selection 192 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: of goproaction adventure cameras. 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