Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is out of Bounds.
Speaker 1: It is me Joey p Joe Pi Zapia with my
Speaker 1: one best friend, the Welsh, because Scott Bogman has the flu. Really,
Speaker 1: he's just sick of seeing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he just didn't want to talk about now,
Speaker 1: but shout out to Scott Bogman. He is under the
Speaker 1: weather today. But the Welsh and I are here on
Speaker 1: our discord Fantasy bros dot Com slash chat. If you
Speaker 1: want to hang out with us on out of Bounds,
Speaker 1: this is the place to do it. You can ask
Speaker 1: your questions, you can talk football with us, have a
Speaker 1: little football, a little fun. We're gonna recap what happened
Speaker 1: in the championship games on Sunday, a lot of good,
Speaker 1: some bad, some disappointing, depends on your outlook on things.
Speaker 1: And we're also going to grade. That's right, it's report
Speaker 1: card time. We're going to grade the organizations and the
Speaker 1: new head coaching hires. I don't know who's a tougher
Speaker 1: grade Welsh for myself, so we'll have to see what
Speaker 1: goes on there. And you know, last week we did
Speaker 1: a segment that got cut from the show because it
Speaker 1: was two out of bounds for out of bounds, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now we're bringing it back. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to not be so controversial with it. Florida, Man,
Speaker 1: it was news. I wanted to talk about it. You
Speaker 1: have to go, I guess behind the paywall for that
Speaker 1: kind of content, Welsh, Is that what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Well, you had to be here for the discord. If
Speaker 2: you were in the discord, you heard the thing. You
Speaker 2: heard the the It was a whole segment. It led
Speaker 2: into the end and I had a punchline that I
Speaker 2: didn't throw in because I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: about this. And then yeah, so to say we had
Speaker 2: our first out of bound controversy because and it wasn't me,
Speaker 2: by the way, it's amazing I met Joe. Joe got
Speaker 2: a full segment cut. So what I'd be curious about
Speaker 2: actually didn't go back and watch. This is from two
Speaker 2: weeks ago because we didn't have a show last week.
Speaker 2: If you go back and watch, see if you can
Speaker 2: find where it was cut. If you can find the
Speaker 2: cut in a whole segment being thrown out, and then
Speaker 2: the end of the show us attempting to do. But yes,
Speaker 2: only the Fantasy Pro's Discord heard Joe really try to
Speaker 2: I don't know, get the show out or whatever you
Speaker 2: were trying to do.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. I'm bringing the funny news of
Speaker 1: crazy things. I want to do a Florida mand segment.
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't get cut today. You gotta stick
Speaker 1: around to the end of the show.
Speaker 2: Were a little ron Burgundy there. You were just reading
Speaker 2: the news and not thinking about the consequences.
Speaker 1: I thought about it quite a bit, but whatever. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to the championship games, and let's start here
Speaker 1: with the NFC. The final score a little misleading if
Speaker 1: you just didn't watch the entire game, fifty five to
Speaker 1: twenty three. This game was close in the first half.
Speaker 1: You know, Washington went down and scored again. You felt like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is a competitive team. It felt, you know, from
Speaker 1: that first big play from Saquon Barkley, the big run.
Speaker 1: That was the one thing I said on TV on Sunday,
Speaker 1: I said, look, you know, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: you limit those big plays from Saquon. You're gonna give
Speaker 1: up yards. The Commanders were the third worst team in
Speaker 1: the league against the run. You knew they were gonna
Speaker 1: give up one hundred yards to Saquon. It was are
Speaker 1: you gonna give up the big backbreaking play? And they
Speaker 1: did on the first play the game for them, that
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, but they didn't fold up the tents. However,
Speaker 1: turnovers in the second half, obviously you can't go that route.
Speaker 1: Saquon Jalen Hurts made plays. Hurts rushed for three touchdowns
Speaker 1: in there, and of course the tush pushing was happening
Speaker 1: there and Freddy Louvu, I mean, God bless him. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know about I didn't I've never heard of
Speaker 1: my whole life. Basically, it was like when the parent
Speaker 1: you have kids, when the parent says, if you keep
Speaker 1: that up, I'm turning this.
Speaker 2: I did this last night. I did this last night
Speaker 2: with my kids. I'm like, listen, we're we're getting a
Speaker 2: touchdown automatically scored against you guys if you guys don't
Speaker 2: get to bed and calm down.
Speaker 1: Did you know that was I I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that.
Speaker 3: I've learned.
Speaker 2: I learned multiple rules this year. Though, Remember the whole like, uh,
Speaker 2: what was it special kick that hadn't happened in thirty years.
Speaker 2: I didn't like know that whole deal that happened. I
Speaker 2: had never heard of this, because guess what, I've done
Speaker 2: this three hundred times in Madden. Playing Madden throughout my years,
Speaker 2: I've one hundred percent been so pissed off that I
Speaker 2: just kept going off sides and getting multiple penalties. I've
Speaker 2: never had the video game give the other person points,
Speaker 2: so I did not know this rule exists, but I've
Speaker 2: done it being very pissy. I laughed out loud with
Speaker 2: my teeth out like an idiot crying when Luvu did
Speaker 2: the second one, and it was the funniest thing I've
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life, him going over and then
Speaker 2: the guy it wasn't even Louvu, it was the third
Speaker 2: guy who just went over and they're just like, we're
Speaker 2: done with this. We're gonna give them points if you
Speaker 2: guys don't stop. It was laugh out loud funny what
Speaker 2: Louvu was doing.
Speaker 1: I thought he was trying to like basically Canadian destroyer
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts like he was trying to get over the
Speaker 1: top of the Sunset, flips around like that. It was
Speaker 1: very wwesque and I'm here for it. He was so
Speaker 1: entertaining in last week two against the Lions, so obviously Barkley.
Speaker 1: The sixty yard touchdown was huge. One hundred and eighteen
Speaker 1: three scores. The points got out of control at the end.
Speaker 1: The fifty five points, by the way, the most any
Speaker 1: team has scored in a conference championship game since nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy the merger. Wow, and look, Hurtz was wearing the
Speaker 1: knee brace. He threw for two forty six. It was
Speaker 1: the best game we've seen now Jalen Hurts, I think
Speaker 1: in many weeks, and a terrific performance by the Eagles
Speaker 1: defense to Jalen Carter is an absolute beast. The Coroners
Speaker 1: played well. McLaurin, they limited him right, he had the touchdown,
Speaker 1: but outside of that, McLaurin really, especially in the second half,
Speaker 1: didn't really make an impact in that game. And the Commanders, look,
Speaker 1: they weren't supposed to be there. They got to the
Speaker 1: NFC championship game. It's an incredible journey for them. Now,
Speaker 1: you don't want to have what happened to the Texans
Speaker 1: where they were kind of lackluster and that sophomore year
Speaker 1: with expectations I don't feel that's going to come at
Speaker 1: all for the Commanders, But I do want to talk
Speaker 1: about the post type here now of the Commanders. Obviously
Speaker 1: they could use another wide receiver somewhere, you know, Zakiyas
Speaker 1: and the Ami Brown. I just don't know those guys
Speaker 1: are the answer, right if you want to give Brandon
Speaker 1: a yukuz that what you want to do.
Speaker 2: If you wanted to go there anyways, let's send them.
Speaker 1: Well, look, if if Ayuk wants to go there, fine,
Speaker 1: they could use some help up against the run, to
Speaker 1: either a linebacker or defensive tackle. I think those are
Speaker 1: the needs when you're looking at the Commanders. Would you
Speaker 1: agree if you could address those needs in the draft
Speaker 1: or and free agency. There's no reason why the Commanders
Speaker 1: can't challenge for this division, be a playoff team again.
Speaker 1: And there's no reason why Jaden Daniels can't be a
Speaker 1: potential MVP candidate next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I would say, like we can focus
Speaker 2: on some of the offensive. I think it's all defense
Speaker 2: like that. They could not stop that. You need defensive line,
Speaker 2: need somebody Barkley was running through. I have never I
Speaker 2: know we're talking about the Commanders here, I want to mention,
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen seven rushing touchdowns in
Speaker 2: a game. Three by Hurts, three by Barkley, one by Shipley.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen that, let alone in
Speaker 2: a playoff game. It was crazy. But that's what we're
Speaker 2: talking about here. They have to focus on defense because
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels made the best out of what on paper
Speaker 2: you would look as a very subpar crewise. Zach Ertz
Speaker 2: has got to be living again and do this. Eckler
Speaker 2: and Robinson are fine, You've only got really one wide receiver.
Speaker 2: He may do by being one of the highest completion quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: It was twenty plus completions for like eight straight weeks.
Speaker 2: He moves around in the pocket. Offensive line did okay,
Speaker 2: but it was the defense. They could stop nothing. The
Speaker 2: Eagles had their absolute weight with them, and the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year, if you remember, the Commanders were one
Speaker 2: of the absolute worst secondaries, giving up all the touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Then it turned into the rushing side done. They were
Speaker 2: just giving up anything rushing. So this team should probably
Speaker 2: take four of its top six draft picks and have
Speaker 2: that many, and it should be defense. It should be
Speaker 2: defensive line. It should be multiple secondary pieces, and then
Speaker 2: if they can get an offensive piece or two, great,
Speaker 2: that's awesome. If you can go get an Ayuk or
Speaker 2: whoever the hell is available in free agency, one wide
Speaker 2: receiver would probably feel good. But defense is clearly what
Speaker 2: they've got to do, because they could not hold any
Speaker 2: cards with the Eagles in that game, and that was unfortunate.
Speaker 2: I really thought that Jayden Daniels could keep them in it,
Speaker 2: but their defense, they just got obliterated in the run game.
Speaker 1: The heartwarming coming together before the game, if you saw
Speaker 1: this in the tailgate, you had the Commanders fans and
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans in the parking lot together communing in
Speaker 1: a cowboy sucks chant, which I thought was great. That
Speaker 1: was terrific. It came together. It was a nice moment.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. Also after the game too. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw Broad Street in Philadelphia, former
Speaker 1: home of my illustrious alma mater, lived in Philadelphia for
Speaker 1: six years, packed for miles with people. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: They're shooting fireworks, people climbing the light poles on there,
Speaker 1: and one guy climbed the LFE with the AJ Brown
Speaker 1: book and they were up there reading the book. I
Speaker 1: mean it's a special.
Speaker 2: Player, definitely a special breed. No I saw that. But
Speaker 2: nothing brings football fans together more than hating on the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I have a question for you, though, if it was
Speaker 2: Cowboys and Chiefs in the Super Bowl, what would people do?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. I mean what would you do?
Speaker 1: How they watch it and then they're just angry. They're
Speaker 1: just angry the whole time. They're just But who who
Speaker 1: do you go for?
Speaker 2: Because everyone's sick of the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I'm not sick of the Chiefs. See the Patriots fan.
Speaker 1: My perspective is totally different. My daughter is starting to
Speaker 1: learn this now because she's a cheese fan. For since
Speaker 1: she started watching football about five years ago. She became
Speaker 1: a chef fan. She like mahomes and she just happened
Speaker 1: to catch them at the right time, right, And then
Speaker 1: of course is a swifty. All the other stuff file
Speaker 1: on and just you know, intensified everything. And she plays football.
Speaker 1: But the I'm I'm in awe of the Chiefs. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And we'll get to get to that game
Speaker 1: in a second. I know people want to complain about
Speaker 1: the referees, and I get it. The calls go their way,
Speaker 1: but the players go their way too. They make plays,
Speaker 1: they make their own luck. Sometimes you just got to outplay,
Speaker 1: you know. I tell this to my twelve ye football
Speaker 1: teams that I coached a flag. I was like, you
Speaker 1: got to play better than the ref's call. And it's
Speaker 1: funny because we were actually playing the Chiefs and they
Speaker 1: got a bunch of calls on Sunday right our Rams
Speaker 1: team and the one point the kids in the huddle
Speaker 1: set to be goes this is like playing the real Chiefs.
Speaker 1: And I laughed so hard, and you know what, we
Speaker 1: came from behind. We won the football game. But it
Speaker 1: was true their Chiefs were getting all the calls. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Maybe it's the year, so you.
Speaker 2: Would go for the Chiefs, then I would go for
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I like history, I like legacies. I think it's good
Speaker 1: for the NFL to have these big, legendary, larger than
Speaker 1: life franchises where you have the Steelers of the seventies,
Speaker 1: and then the eighties you have the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 1: and then obviously in the ninety nineties two albums you
Speaker 1: have well, I mean the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Was like a nine it was early nineties was Cowboys,
Speaker 2: and then it kind of moved to Rand and the
Speaker 2: Patriotriots owned that.
Speaker 1: The Patriots owned the two thousands. I mean, when you're
Speaker 1: gonna get their playoffs for twenty straight years, that's it,
Speaker 1: you know pretty much. Well they're saying, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I was just gonna say, here's the
Speaker 2: positive though, We'll never have to worry about Cowboys and
Speaker 2: Chiefs in the meantime and in your future. Now, no one
Speaker 2: will have to even deal with that speculative game because
Speaker 2: it ain't happen.
Speaker 1: No, we're not gonna have to worry about that. All right,
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the Chiefs and Bills thirty
Speaker 1: two to twenty nine. It's funny there was a time
Speaker 1: in this game too on that not the final drive
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs, but the one before where they went
Speaker 1: and they kicked the field goal where I was very
Speaker 1: mad at zavier' worthy because he didn't go out of bounds,
Speaker 1: and I kept thinking, that's gonna cost you. He had
Speaker 1: that good catch, right, remember he went out of bounds,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, ooh, you're giving Josh Allen way too
Speaker 1: much time and he's got two timeouts left. You have
Speaker 1: to make the bills. Either burn a timeout or burn
Speaker 1: some clock. I was really surprised that nobody brought that
Speaker 1: up on the broadcast at the time either. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a really pivotal moment that I was worried
Speaker 1: and concerned about. And of course they kicked the field goal.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has the ability. And here's the funny thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Welsh. I'm watching that game
Speaker 1: in that moment on the fourth and five, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, well, he's gonna bring that corner blitz, just
Speaker 1: like he did against the San Francisco forty nine ers
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Right when it comes to the end,
Speaker 1: Spagnall's gonna bring everything at you, and he's gonna do
Speaker 1: something you haven't seen. It's probably gonna be that corner blitz.
Speaker 1: What does he do? He brings that exact same corner blitz,
Speaker 1: So if I remember it, I don't know. The coach
Speaker 1: EXTAPF of the Bills isn't prepared for it. Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: to his credit, somehow gets the ball in the air.
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid somehow gets close enough to it, doesn't come
Speaker 1: up with it. I don't think people should be killing
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid. It was not an easy catch had he
Speaker 1: caught it. Though, I think we are looking at the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl. I think that is
Speaker 1: a moment that just swings the whole momentum of that
Speaker 1: game in a whole different plays and maybe just maybe
Speaker 1: it is Buffalo. What did you think about that sequence
Speaker 1: of events there with the fourth and five and also
Speaker 1: some of the play calling too, which was basically, let's
Speaker 1: just run Josh Allen in the tush, push to the
Speaker 1: left every single time. Can we run into the right?
Speaker 1: Can we try something different there? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought there was some maybe like what you're alluding to,
Speaker 2: like some stagnant play calling on the Bills, because to
Speaker 2: your point, they did it on the broadcast a whole
Speaker 2: bunch where they were, like you know they waited until
Speaker 2: the last play of the game to do something different
Speaker 2: the whole game. They like defensively, they had been setting
Speaker 2: this up, and that's a kind of true that they
Speaker 2: did that, but in the same token, and what you're
Speaker 2: saying is like, I would have hoped that the Bills
Speaker 2: would have been more prepared that the possibility of a
Speaker 2: blitz could come in in this scenario to have a
Speaker 2: quick throw, and they weren't prepared to make a quick throw.
Speaker 2: They didn't have anybody. Well, here's the other stickening thing.
Speaker 2: They did have somebody under and they had Khalil Shakir
Speaker 2: that came back into the backfield and then rolled out
Speaker 2: to the left and was wide open. He had a
Speaker 2: wide receiver that another wide receiver was there to block
Speaker 2: the corner if and now he had to throw across
Speaker 2: his body. Had he been prepared to make that throw,
Speaker 2: which I kind of thought, why do you do Shakir
Speaker 2: back there unless you were prepared to have some short
Speaker 2: yard throw. He didn't do it, and he throws this
Speaker 2: long dart out there. It just did feel like they
Speaker 2: were not prepared for something like that, even though they
Speaker 2: had the play call and there was some stagnants in
Speaker 2: the play calling in general. But you know, like the
Speaker 2: worthy thing, they still had the opportunity to do it.
Speaker 2: They couldn't do it. It's just it's unfortunate. It was
Speaker 2: a great freakin game across the board, but the Bills
Speaker 2: showed their hand that they just they were just a
Speaker 2: notch below the Chiefs play call. You know, be damned
Speaker 2: with what everyone freaks out about. Like, the Chiefs want it.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs absolutely want it, period, end of story. You
Speaker 1: don't like it, you want to complain about, Well, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen the first down, you know what, you got a
Speaker 1: big body quarterback of Josh Allen. You know, let it,
Speaker 1: Let's go forward to the you know, let's go right
Speaker 1: over the center and let's I mean, let's try to
Speaker 1: do something different. Let's not be doing the same stuff
Speaker 1: over and over again. Let's let's also be prepared. I
Speaker 1: just don't understand history tones.
Speaker 2: Everyone says, get rid of the tush push, but no
Speaker 2: one else does the.
Speaker 1: Tush Nobody does quite as good as the Eagles do
Speaker 1: I know, And I don't understand why you don't the
Speaker 1: history of Stevez Magnola. Would he go back to the
Speaker 1: Giants right against Tom Brady those years in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: What does he do in those The bigger the spot,
Speaker 1: the more the pressure, and you know it's coming, you've
Speaker 1: got to be prepared. You need somebody else in there
Speaker 1: to help pick up somebody off the edge. You need
Speaker 1: somebody out there to help block for Josh Allen, or
Speaker 1: like you said, you need to be aware, like I
Speaker 1: gotta get rid of this football really quick, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a fourth and five where we're
Speaker 1: not going deep here, We're trying to catch and run
Speaker 1: and get there. And I just you could sense it coming.
Speaker 1: I knew they weren't prepared for it. I thought, like
Speaker 1: you said, when I saw Shakier's like, Okay, maybe they
Speaker 1: have something. And as soon as I saw Josh Allen's match,
Speaker 1: and I knew that they were not prepared for it.
Speaker 2: It is very armchair quarterbacking, and I completely acknowledge that.
Speaker 2: But when I look at that and you go, why
Speaker 2: did you move Shakir and put him in motion to
Speaker 2: see if they're in a zone or a man? Okay,
Speaker 2: looks like they're in a zone. Then when you see
Speaker 2: the blitz, they're in a blitz zone. And you have
Speaker 2: Shakir rolling around the corner. Why would you not throw
Speaker 2: that off there when you know there was only one
Speaker 2: corner on the left side. So like that, and it's
Speaker 2: like half this is why I'm saying it's armchair quarterback.
Speaker 2: There's like a second for him to think of that.
Speaker 2: But like we have the you know, we have the
Speaker 2: ability to go back and look and be like, dude,
Speaker 2: why didn't you throw across your body with Shakir? But
Speaker 2: it's like why did you also make all of that
Speaker 2: motion to figure out what your defense had and then
Speaker 2: they had that. You know, it's something unfortunately, hate to
Speaker 2: say it, Mahomes probably makes that play and Josh Allen didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he did play game.
Speaker 1: I mean those runs that he had and Worthy did
Speaker 1: play great, and you were on Worthy if you watch
Speaker 1: betting Pros. You nail the ladder bed for him, You
Speaker 1: nailed all kinds of stuff there. And Mahomes look took
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands in the big spots. And
Speaker 1: it was something that I was talking about to in
Speaker 1: the DFS market on Sunday. I was like, look, Mahomes
Speaker 1: is the cheapest quarterback. If you think he's not going
Speaker 1: to run this game, you're crazy. The stats for him
Speaker 1: coming into that game too against the Buffalo Bills were absurd.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were aware of them or
Speaker 1: had seen them the games against the Buffalo Bills before yesterday.
Speaker 1: I haven't added in these other stats, but I have
Speaker 1: the OG stats leading up to yesterday, three games against
Speaker 1: the Bills in the playoffs, seventy nine for one oh five.
Speaker 1: That's a seventy five percent completion percentage, nine hundred and
Speaker 1: eighteen passing yards, eight touchdowns, no picks, a one twenty
Speaker 1: six point six passer rating, and ninety three rushing yards
Speaker 1: with a rushing touchdown. And those numbers got better yesterday.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to Father Man, who's on our
Speaker 1: discord right now. Father Man, you got any takes on
Speaker 1: the games there that you wanted to share with the
Speaker 1: ether and everybody listening on Out of Mountains.
Speaker 2: Hey, the only thing I got to say that I
Speaker 2: thought about that latter bit when the game was going
Speaker 2: on up, like I knew that sucker was gonna hit it. Yeah, baby, Yeah, baby.
Speaker 2: I had a couple I had a couple of rough
Speaker 2: weeks prior to that, but I swept the Chiefs game
Speaker 2: with my bets. The Chiefs Bills game. The only two
Speaker 2: I missed were in that Eagles game. But that felt good.
Speaker 2: Over five hundred with the ladder bet. And when he
Speaker 2: caught that big pass and then they did the review
Speaker 2: and they're like, did it touch the ground? I'm like, no, please, no,
Speaker 2: please know, and we might have got a little bit
Speaker 2: luck on our side, father man, But ladder bet going.
Speaker 2: I think I hit that one. Then I hit both
Speaker 2: both games. I hit the over on both of them.
Speaker 2: I hit some money lines. I knew you knew it's
Speaker 2: gonna be the Eagles and the super Bowl, so I
Speaker 2: bet the money line smart money.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Some tither Man got the script.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the chalk is the right way to go, father man.
Speaker 1: Or we're glad you made some money on the games.
Speaker 2: There man, let's you know, Joey, the only I wasn't
Speaker 2: say real quick you were saying, had I heard those stats?
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard those Mahome stats, because the only stat
Speaker 2: I heard all week was Travis Kelcey goes over seventy
Speaker 2: yard receiving playoff games for fourteen straight games, and then
Speaker 2: absolutely shut out on that. If you did bet it,
Speaker 2: the books knew it too. By the way between sixty
Speaker 2: nine and seventy one. They wanted you to take that,
Speaker 2: they wanted you to do. It didn't happen. That didn't happen.
Speaker 1: It didn't. Unfortunately, it's the fourth time, by the way,
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty one that the Chiefs have ended the
Speaker 1: bill season in the playoffs. Kareem Hunt had a touchdown.
Speaker 1: He was you know, Kareem Hunt pretty good in these games.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, like he is grinding him out worthy
Speaker 1: six for eighty five. He had the touchdown there. Did
Speaker 1: you think he came down with that ball? Because I
Speaker 1: know that was the other big controversial moment there. I
Speaker 1: also did know the rule. That rule. I did know that,
Speaker 1: you know, ty goes to the runner. Well, if two
Speaker 1: guys come down with the ball, the offensive player gets
Speaker 1: the ball. That's actually all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all knew that one.
Speaker 1: That was from the late eighties. I think where they
Speaker 1: changed that because I wasn't always the case back in
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 2: So that one's tough because it wasn't about the TI
Speaker 2: goes to the runner. It was about like did he
Speaker 2: have the possession before it? Because the ball can touch
Speaker 2: the ground, I believe if possession is maintained prior it
Speaker 2: didn't quite look like he had because because they were
Speaker 2: fighting for the ball, didn't seem like he had one
Speaker 2: hundred percent possession. So like from a betting standpoint, I
Speaker 2: was like, please, don't take this away from it. This
Speaker 2: is gonna be my luck lately. Thank god.
Speaker 1: They like, But if we're looking at like at the
Speaker 1: dinner table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking at reality because they were both still
Speaker 2: vying to actually maintain possession and no maintain no possession
Speaker 2: for one player seemed like it was locked. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been like, cry foul if they said it was incomplete.
Speaker 2: But you know he had like a hand in there,
Speaker 2: so I see why they do it. I'm just you know,
Speaker 2: my pocketbooks happen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this to everybody too. Most people who
Speaker 1: are fed up with the referees and the chiefs c
Speaker 1: The refs do give chiefs calls on the field, and
Speaker 1: what makes it then difficult is when they review them.
Speaker 1: There's never enough sometimes to overturn what the call was
Speaker 1: on the field. So if the call in the field
Speaker 1: is going the way of the chiefs, when you go
Speaker 1: to that review and it's on the bubble, they're just
Speaker 1: going to stick with whatever the call is on the
Speaker 1: field that I buy into and that I can give
Speaker 1: folks who are trying to yell and scream at the
Speaker 1: clouds about this stuff. Here's another one. Dating back to
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two NFL teams have scored four touchdowns and
Speaker 1: committed zero turnovers in a playoff game are eighty five
Speaker 1: and six. The Bills in the last two playoff games
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead are two of those six teams. That is
Speaker 1: an incredible stat there. Just want to say that, I
Speaker 1: mean unbelievable. And the Bills had a great season, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen arguably his best season, and now we're looking forward
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills. So the one problem I had
Speaker 1: with the Bills was the defense. I kept talking about
Speaker 1: it all the time. I said, look this defense in
Speaker 1: big spots, they're gonna give up yardage. Mahomes in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter was moving down the field at will, and
Speaker 1: that was my biggest fear. This is not the Micah
Speaker 1: Hyde Jordan Poyer days of that secondary. That's long gone.
Speaker 1: That's in the past. The Bills are another team. I think, well,
Speaker 1: this offseason, it's got to be about defense for them,
Speaker 1: and it's got to be about the secondary to a
Speaker 1: certain degree.
Speaker 2: Would you agree, Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, like
Speaker 2: defense let down the two losing teams in the championship
Speaker 2: round probably to the highest degree. Are there offensive questions
Speaker 2: with the Bills? Not really, there's a little bit in
Speaker 2: the wide receiver corps. Like you know, Keon Coleman could
Speaker 2: not get going Amari Cooper. We just thought like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, it's gonna be an amazing signing that never
Speaker 2: really happened. It was just Khalil Shakir. But their running
Speaker 2: game is so dominant. But again, like if just like
Speaker 2: the Commanders, I wouldn't go and say, well, they need
Speaker 2: to go get one great receiver on the outside. Keon
Speaker 2: Coleman was a definite big play receiver that I think
Speaker 2: can take a next big step the following season. Their
Speaker 2: run game was so elite that, yeah, it's like defense, defense, defense, defense.
Speaker 2: They should probably spend big in free agency, maybe the
Speaker 2: best secondary player they can, and then they should probably
Speaker 2: go some defensive line and pass rushers in the draft
Speaker 2: for sure. And guess what we got a draft show
Speaker 2: that is back on Fantasy Pro. So make sure you
Speaker 2: guys are locked on the podcast. Debro is back with
Speaker 2: the Draft Show talking about out of the offensive players.
Speaker 2: But you got Bogmin that's around and they'll be talking
Speaker 2: about team needs and everything. And we got the Draft
Speaker 2: Show back on Fantasy Pros to cover your offseason just
Speaker 2: like we do even though Bogman isn't here today, we
Speaker 2: cover you without a bounce.
Speaker 1: Yes, the early line for the Super Bowl, we got
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I'm looking at betting pros plus two Kansas
Speaker 1: City minus one and a half is the best number
Speaker 1: you're getting on them right now. Forty nine and a
Speaker 1: half is the total. Pretty big number for Super Bowl too.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know, you don't really
Speaker 1: scratch the fifties for Super Bowls. Minus one nineteen on
Speaker 1: the money line for the Chiefs, plus one twelve for
Speaker 1: the Eagles any early hot takes on the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: matchup or when I say rematch, because the big difference
Speaker 1: here is I don't think you're getting as good of
Speaker 1: a version of Jalen Hurts that you had rock and
Speaker 1: Rolling a couple of years ago when Shane Stikeen was
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. But now you have to do what
Speaker 1: sae Kwon Barkley. But on the chief side, the one
Speaker 1: thing they're really good at is stopping the run. That's
Speaker 1: one thing they are great up front, so.
Speaker 2: They just haven't been lately though lately they've kind of
Speaker 2: faltered on that.
Speaker 1: And then that's also because they've been more aggressive in
Speaker 1: terms of pressure on the quarterback. So when you start
Speaker 1: to do that, you're gonna get guys that are a
Speaker 1: little tired. You're gonna start to back up a little
Speaker 1: bit more against the run in the stats.
Speaker 2: But you'd want to do that with the Eagles because
Speaker 2: like Jalen Hurts hasn't really been doing a great job
Speaker 2: of making quick decisions, he did make a lot quicker decisions.
Speaker 2: That was the Eagles kind of masking the poor ish
Speaker 2: pass game with him making quicker decisions. So you would
Speaker 2: think they would want to blitz on Jalen Hurts as
Speaker 2: much as possible to put him into those situations where
Speaker 2: he's making those quick decisions. But it's a weird matchup
Speaker 2: because it's like, at the same time, on the chief side,
Speaker 2: you have been able to run a little bit more,
Speaker 2: and if you've been able to run a little bit more,
Speaker 2: how about Saquon Barkley Of all players on the planet,
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley could eat this team. I'm not at this moment.
Speaker 2: I feel like I would want to tease the Eagles
Speaker 2: up to plus eight and then maybe tease down the
Speaker 2: total a tiny bit and take like a let's say
Speaker 2: forty five and a half over and plus eight and
Speaker 2: get somewhere around even money or minus one ten. But
Speaker 2: if I had to just pick a side, I'm just
Speaker 2: taking the goal against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Chiefs until further notice.
Speaker 2: How do you go against the Chiefs because I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you bet against the Chiefs in the last five years,
Speaker 1: you've lost a lot of money. I see, I think
Speaker 1: Mangioni and the chat you're on discord, I really hope
Speaker 1: the Eagles get embarrassed. Worst fans ever. Listen, I lived
Speaker 1: in Philly. The worst of their worst fans are the worst.
Speaker 1: But that that city, when a team's playing well, it
Speaker 1: is an unbelieve there's an energy in that city when
Speaker 1: it's the Phillies, or the Sixers, or even the Flyers
Speaker 1: too a certain agree, but especially the Eagles. When the
Speaker 1: Eagles are good, it is crazy.
Speaker 2: You powered by all the batteries that people are bringing
Speaker 2: to throw it at the stadium if they lose.
Speaker 1: Uh yingling and a lot of cheese steaks and but
Speaker 1: they are. But it is a very communal thing. The
Speaker 1: community of the Eagles fans there. It's unbelievable. And you
Speaker 1: saw it on Broad Street last night. Man, I mean
Speaker 1: it's I mean as fan bases go over there.
Speaker 2: That's not what Stink is talking about. Yeah, Eagles fans
Speaker 2: are great to each other. He's saying they're the monsters
Speaker 2: and they're horrible people to everybody else. If you didn't
Speaker 2: make an argument.
Speaker 1: To that, I can't because I've been into many situations
Speaker 1: where the worst the worst, and the Philly faithful will
Speaker 1: tell you the worst of us are the worst there is,
Speaker 1: but they give a bad name to everybody else. Because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great Philadelphia sports fans. And what
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, for the next two weeks, you will
Speaker 1: see a sea of green everywhere. Everybody will be wearing
Speaker 1: Eagles and I mean people going to work, I mean
Speaker 1: people at school. It is crazy. It's not like that
Speaker 1: in other city. Sometimes. You know, in New York you
Speaker 1: got two different teams, you got these split stuff. It's
Speaker 1: not like that Philadelphia. It is all in you are
Speaker 1: either all in where you're getting your ass kicked in
Speaker 1: the parking lot pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other color will be red from the Eagles fans.
Speaker 2: Oh it's from the Chiefs Jersey by the way, not
Speaker 2: from the Chiefs Jerseys.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the head coaching report cards,
Speaker 1: because guess what all the spots got filled. We got
Speaker 1: a couple predictions, right firhim. A few weeks ago we
Speaker 1: played a little game here with Bogmin and Welsh. So
Speaker 1: let's grade the coaching higher, get the report cards out
Speaker 1: the red marker, let's go. It's time to go back
Speaker 1: to school. The Las Vegas Raiders hired a young up
Speaker 1: and comer, Pete Carroll, so we'll see how how that
Speaker 1: goes for them. I like this higher Welsh because to me,
Speaker 1: even though he's got the age, he has got the experience,
Speaker 1: he knows how to rebuild something. And the Raiders foundation
Speaker 1: is terrible. Let's be honest, they have been cycling through
Speaker 1: coaches for a decade. It needs to stop. Pete Carroll,
Speaker 1: if he can have a three year window where he
Speaker 1: just rebuilds the foundation, I think that's all this is about.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's expectations because every team in that
Speaker 1: division is gonna be way better than the Raiders for
Speaker 1: the next three to five years. This is about rebuilding
Speaker 1: an organization, and I think it makes sense and will
Speaker 1: make more sense depending on who he brings in underneath
Speaker 1: him to be a successor to pass the reins for continuity,
Speaker 1: so you're not getting a firing at one point, maybe
Speaker 1: you get Pete Carroll just stepping away, moving into the
Speaker 1: front office as like an executive kind of role and
Speaker 1: keeping the continuity of something in Las Vegas with the Raiders,
Speaker 1: because that is what's in killing them. I gave this,
Speaker 1: uh higher, let's see, I gave it a B. What
Speaker 1: did you give it?
Speaker 2: Give it a B minus. That's interesting how you phrased
Speaker 2: a lot of that, because yeah, I think you actually
Speaker 2: might be right. I think on the surface, I just
Speaker 2: don't love it, Like I don't love a guy that's
Speaker 2: like ninety seven years old going in and trying to relate.
Speaker 2: I mean, if there is a coach that isn't a
Speaker 2: former player that can relate with players, Pete Carroll's probably
Speaker 2: near the top. I mean, you know, like obviously, any
Speaker 2: player that's played in the last like ten or fifteen years,
Speaker 2: there's like a relatability factor, so Pete Carroll has that,
Speaker 2: but like you're out of the game. I don't gonna
Speaker 2: say wash like towards the end or anything like like
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's like a great coach. I guess just from
Speaker 2: a needing to rebrand this, You've got Tom Brady kind
Speaker 2: of in ownership and probably obviously having his hands on
Speaker 2: a little bit more. I just don't know if Pete
Speaker 2: Carroll feels like the right fit. But you make a
Speaker 2: really compelling case of like if you see it in
Speaker 2: a short window, you need to rebrand from a full
Speaker 2: organizational standpoint of like the staffing and maybe just kind
Speaker 2: of the mentality and the personnel, Like maybe that is
Speaker 2: a little bit better. But I guess there is.
Speaker 1: No culture there.
Speaker 2: Culture is a good way to put it. I guess
Speaker 2: I just would have liked, like if you have Tom
Speaker 2: Brady overseeing a lot of the management, you'd love to
Speaker 2: see like like a high end, younger offensive coach that
Speaker 2: maybe you could build to this team for ten or
Speaker 2: fifteen years, having like a short stance guy. There is
Speaker 2: a very uh, there's a very visible time clock that
Speaker 2: is on how long Pete Carroll can be with this
Speaker 2: team and then you have to pass the reins over.
Speaker 2: So I guess it's gonna be probably built around more
Speaker 2: like who are the coordinators that they bring in that
Speaker 2: would be the successor? So this has become succession a
Speaker 2: little bit. And I don't love that in general, even
Speaker 2: though I love that show. So I gave it a minus.
Speaker 1: You know, hardest for me, nice Brian Cox right now,
Speaker 1: because I don't want more stuff to get cut from
Speaker 1: the show. God, I love that. And apparently wherever he goes,
Speaker 1: people ask him to say it to their face and
Speaker 1: record him saying it's so good the Dallas Cowboys. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: father man, I know you're a Cowboys fan. They hired
Speaker 1: a Brian Schottenheimer. I guess they just want to keep
Speaker 1: the continuity of the offense and another yes, man, this
Speaker 1: feels like Jason Garrett two point. Oh does it not.
Speaker 1: I was tough on this one. I gave it a
Speaker 1: D plus, but Welsh, you gave it even worse. Great.
Speaker 1: The only reason I didn't fail it is because I said, well,
Speaker 1: you have the continuity. At least you know the personnel,
Speaker 1: you know the offense. Things aren't going to change that much.
Speaker 1: Maybe they should change. I don't know, but you were
Speaker 1: even harsher. What did you give this, Brian Schottenheimer higher.
Speaker 2: I gave it an F sucks. It's stupid. Everything you
Speaker 2: just said is the problem. Like why would you want
Speaker 2: the things to stay the same? You just want to
Speaker 2: keep doing this. I want to Dion there. Dion might
Speaker 2: have also been like just a huge disaster. But you
Speaker 2: know what, change something up, blow this thing up, switch
Speaker 2: out the mentality of it. I mean, maybe, see here's
Speaker 2: the problem. It's like I was about to say, maybe
Speaker 2: Dion would have been more of just a yes man
Speaker 2: to Jerry Jones. But you're telling me Shotenheimer's not the
Speaker 2: ultimate yes man. Whatever you want, Like, I just think
Speaker 2: it's a lateral if not like negatively lateral. Just you
Speaker 2: just swoop down another level lower, Like this doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2: Why not just keep McCarthy there. If you're gonna put
Speaker 2: shot in Heimer this, I don't love it. I think
Speaker 2: it's a bad hiring. Maybe I'm being too critical because
Speaker 2: you know cowboys, but I don't know. I would have
Speaker 2: liked a whole new change, a not Pete Carroll change,
Speaker 2: but a younger change. And I guess I just was
Speaker 2: really sold on that Dion standpoint of it.
Speaker 1: This is one of the three that I got right
Speaker 1: from our coaching predictions. Aaron Glenn was the first one.
Speaker 1: I gave it a B plus. I think it's perfect.
Speaker 1: I didn't give any new coaches a's to be You
Speaker 1: don't get a when you're just the coordinator. You're still
Speaker 1: an unknown. So I can't grade anything in a personally.
Speaker 1: That's just my scale of grading things. But Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: was about as close as you can get. He was
Speaker 1: a leader on the Jets when he was a player.
Speaker 1: He's exactly the kind of personality they need. I heard
Speaker 1: he's gonna go talk to Aaron Rodgers, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's gonna say, is Hey, wouldn't you love to go
Speaker 1: to kan Kun and just retire? And I think Aaron
Speaker 1: Glenn is going to take this organization and this is
Speaker 1: a team that could turn around very quickly. You get
Speaker 1: some sort of capable quarterback play, you run the hell
Speaker 1: out of the football, you change the culture in this
Speaker 1: locker room. Aaron Glenn's capable of leading these men, getting
Speaker 1: that defense back on track. I love this hire. Getting
Speaker 1: rid of Hacket, All this stuff, just cleaning it up.
Speaker 1: Love this one B plus would you give it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And just for like reference, you don't give a new
Speaker 2: time first new head coach, you do give it.
Speaker 1: I give one A, but I can't give I can't
Speaker 1: give an organization an A for hiring a guy who's
Speaker 1: never coached in the NFL because the success rate is bad.
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things if you're grading
Speaker 1: on the scale. I think it's everybody thought that you
Speaker 1: know this coordinator, that quittor oh they're gonna be so great,
Speaker 1: and so often they fail. Being a head coach is
Speaker 1: very different than being a coordinator. It's about creating culture.
Speaker 1: It's about the overall picture of things, and historically speaking,
Speaker 1: coaches who have success get fired and then get another
Speaker 1: shot somewhere else. If you go back and look at Belichick,
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at Andy Reid, if
Speaker 1: you go back and look at so many of these coaches,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll right, like it's the second time around, Dan Quinn, right,
Speaker 1: the second time around. Good football guys getting a shot
Speaker 1: of being a head coach typically goes very well the
Speaker 1: second time. So we'll get to that guy in a second.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Glenn, you actually gave I believe in a minus.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the hiring of it. I love the
Speaker 2: new blood. Obviously, this is going to be a coach
Speaker 2: that is going to be very relatable in playing in
Speaker 2: the NFL and the not so distant pass. I love
Speaker 2: the defensive mindedness of it. The A is probably also
Speaker 2: contingent on, like what the coordinator is. I tend to
Speaker 2: love like player ish, young new face coaches on the
Speaker 2: defensive side if they can bring in like a really
Speaker 2: good new offensive coordinator sometimes, and like Mike McDaniel is
Speaker 2: an example of like there's an offensive coordinator that goes
Speaker 2: into his team kind of has the reins controlled of
Speaker 2: himself and everything kind of you know, fell apart a
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, definitely when you look at them
Speaker 2: at this point. But I love Glenn and what he
Speaker 2: did with the Jets are with the Lions. I love
Speaker 2: this situation and what they're going to be able to
Speaker 2: build with this Jets defense. I hope you're gonna have
Speaker 2: some kind of innovative I'm not even sure if I
Speaker 2: want like a veteran veteran OC to take over this gig.
Speaker 2: Even having just some like new young innovativeness with brace
Speaker 2: Hall and the pieces that they've gotten Garrett Wilson, But
Speaker 2: I love it. I think Aaron Glenn is a prime, prime,
Speaker 2: one of the top two head coaches that you could
Speaker 2: have got in this class. So I give it an
Speaker 2: A minus.
Speaker 1: All right. Next one's an A. It's Mike Rabel. And
Speaker 1: it's not because of the Patriots higher it's because anybody
Speaker 1: that hired Vrabel was going to get an A for me,
Speaker 1: because I think Mike Rabel is a hell of a
Speaker 1: football coach. He has been around the game in big
Speaker 1: time organizations. He has shown you he's a winner on
Speaker 1: the fields. He took some mediocre Tennessee Titans teams to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which is no small feat. And you saw
Speaker 1: what happened when he left there. Everything just fell apart,
Speaker 1: and he was able to really those last couple of
Speaker 1: years just piece it together. I mean it was it
Speaker 1: was pretty ugly there, and he found ways to have
Speaker 1: some winning seasons. And look, he's a guy that understands
Speaker 1: the Patriot way and rebuilding it back. He's got the quarterback,
Speaker 1: he got the coach, he got cap space. This is
Speaker 1: a great situation. I think Ellie Wolf is gonna acquis too.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to go with what Rabel wants in
Speaker 1: the draft. So don't be shocked if it's an Abdual
Speaker 1: Carter or Travis Hunter. Maybe it's an offensive tackle to start, well, see,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna look like a Rabel team very quickly.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a good thing because that's typically
Speaker 1: what the Patriot Way is all about. What did you
Speaker 1: give the Mike Verbel higher?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give it an A I think leader of Man.
Speaker 2: And didn't they bring Josh McDaniel back to So it's
Speaker 2: just like, this is like yourself doing that.
Speaker 1: We always forget to say McDaniel or McDaniels, because there's
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, then there's you know, then there's McDaniels, and
Speaker 1: you gotta like you're always going back and forth. I
Speaker 1: find some time I forget where to put the S.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm dumb, so my brain doesn't. There are too
Speaker 2: many things happening at one time. So s is are
Speaker 2: gonna it's not just us.
Speaker 1: I see it on broadcasts on the NFL network where
Speaker 1: people screwed up.
Speaker 2: All Listen, you said champ, you said championship earlier and
Speaker 2: I heard something else and I'm like, oh boy, So
Speaker 2: like my brain is going a mile a minute, so
Speaker 2: I can sometimes hear some different stuff. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I think the grouping it's just like quintessential perfect.
Speaker 2: Patriots coach Mike Rabril is very very well revered Nick Daniels,
Speaker 2: you know, he's the familiarity with this, having Drake may As,
Speaker 2: you know, as your your brushstroke in the art of
Speaker 2: what they'll make with the new Patriots offense. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think this is a fantastic hiring, and this is
Speaker 2: a guy with experience, so I like it.
Speaker 1: Liam Cohne said, I'll come to Jacksonville as long as
Speaker 1: Trent Balky's gone, And Trent Balky's gone, so Liam Cohne
Speaker 1: got his way. I want to give him higher grade
Speaker 1: just for that because I think, you know he deserves it.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna give a C plus. Now you
Speaker 1: can argue that Cohen's offense was better with Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: that it was the year before under Dave Knelis. But
Speaker 1: I am very much wait and see with this one here,
Speaker 1: what did you give William Cohen hiring for the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: I give it better than you I gave it a B,
Speaker 2: even though he backtracked on his team on the contract
Speaker 2: and stuff. But yeah, I mean I think Jacksonville in
Speaker 2: general feels a little messy. But if you start to
Speaker 2: look at the pieces that he's going to get to
Speaker 2: work with, Lawrence is his Mayfield, Brian Thomas is going
Speaker 2: to be his Mike Evans, maybe Etan becomes his Bucky Irving.
Speaker 2: You don't know how this is going to piece together.
Speaker 2: There's some good offensive pieces in here for a high
Speaker 2: offensive mine. Maybe this could justifiably be a little bit higher.
Speaker 2: The physical hiring itself seems good, just shrouded and just
Speaker 2: some you know, some messiness with like going back to
Speaker 2: the Bucks and then not just very then they with
Speaker 2: the GM just it feels very messy with the Jags
Speaker 2: in general. So maybe this deserves to be a little
Speaker 2: bit higher.
Speaker 1: But I give it a B. Some people in the
Speaker 1: jat here are thinking that maybe Tank is just going
Speaker 1: to be the guy. Maybe eighteen it will be moved
Speaker 1: on from I see it in the discord.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they might go, you might end up having
Speaker 2: Tank be the the Bucky Irving, and then they might
Speaker 2: bring in just like a young pass catcher to play.
Speaker 2: I mean you can kind of interchangeably. Look at it, like,
Speaker 2: I think he'll run like a two back system, and
Speaker 2: then maybe the young guy that they come in, if
Speaker 2: it's like an all downs back and a pass catcher,
Speaker 2: that might even work better than Tank Bigsby. I guess
Speaker 2: what I'm getting at is like we saw them thrive,
Speaker 2: and we saw running backs thrive in an offense that
Speaker 2: he ran. We saw the number one receiver thrive. It's
Speaker 2: really gonna be about Trevor Lawrence. So whatever the pieces
Speaker 2: are end up being like I will probably if it
Speaker 2: is only Tank, by the way, I'll be even higher
Speaker 2: on Tank if he's like the sole guy there.
Speaker 1: All right, Chicago Bears, last one. I predict this one
Speaker 1: right too, Ben Johnson. I like confidence, but arrogance, especially
Speaker 1: when you're a bottom feeder team with a Bears team
Speaker 1: that has struggled for many, many years now. I think
Speaker 1: the Bears structurally are quick. Turnaround defense is pretty good.
Speaker 1: You've got some talent on offense, you have a young quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: you have all the pieces there. The press conference came
Speaker 1: off very arrogant to me. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: care what kind of relation he's got with people and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You're looking up at the Vikings, the
Speaker 1: Packers and the Lions in your own division. I understand
Speaker 1: wanting to raw rob whenever, fire everybody up. But Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: I think his mouth is going to write some checks
Speaker 1: that unfortunately the coaching can't cash. I gave it a
Speaker 1: be because he's a great offensive mine and I think
Speaker 1: he's the right guy. And Fantasy League people should be
Speaker 1: excited because Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson, I imagine if
Speaker 1: there's anybody that can help another first round overall pick right,
Speaker 1: look what he did with Jared Goff, got the best
Speaker 1: out of Jared Goff the last few years. Can you
Speaker 1: do it with Caleb Williams. I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's head coach material quite yet,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I know everybody loves the offense. I
Speaker 1: gave this one a bee, but you were more optimistic.
Speaker 1: You gave it an a Why.
Speaker 2: Well, this is like the number one guy in the
Speaker 2: coaching market that was out there. This is a high
Speaker 2: end offensive mind. What was the biggest piece that was
Speaker 2: destroying the Bears this past year was Caleb Williams and
Speaker 2: his inability to trust being able to go deep down field.
Speaker 2: He's going to rectify that. Now. I would have killed
Speaker 2: for him to be on the Raiders with Tom Brady,
Speaker 2: just killing Ben Johnson about having that lateral pass that
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams throw in interception and Tom Brady couldn't get
Speaker 2: over it. And we all kind of internally as we
Speaker 2: listened to that, we're like, oh man, they put those
Speaker 2: two in a room together now. But I think this
Speaker 2: is a great spot. You got great wide receivers, you
Speaker 2: got a big core. This is an offense that he
Speaker 2: is going to be able to properly build around and
Speaker 2: do good things with. Will he end up being like
Speaker 2: a phenomenal coach, Like that's to be seen. Like they're
Speaker 2: going to have to really keep piecing that defense together.
Speaker 2: But there were some great signs of the defense earlier on,
Speaker 2: and it seemed like the biggest thing holding this team
Speaker 2: back was Caleb williams inability to either a be trusted
Speaker 2: to throw the ball deep or trust in the play
Speaker 2: calling that we were doing that had him not feeling
Speaker 2: comfortable about his throat. I think Ben Johnson's going to
Speaker 2: be able to rectify a lot of that with Caleb,
Speaker 2: and Caleb is going to be put in a really
Speaker 2: good spot. So I think this is a phenomenal higher
Speaker 2: for them. But you know, again, I think all of
Speaker 2: these kind of lack a little bit of the flash
Speaker 2: that we're used to. Pete Carroll's the biggest like name
Speaker 2: that we carry. We're kind of lacking some of that
Speaker 2: big flash of like, oh man, it's this big, you know,
Speaker 2: college head coach that's turning over.
Speaker 1: You don't get the college coaches anymore. They don't leave.
Speaker 1: There's too much money in security.
Speaker 2: So I'm saying it's just like.
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you? I mean, I can make
Speaker 1: millions of dollars a year and stay around for six
Speaker 1: seven years in a program and run everything exactly how
Speaker 1: I want it.
Speaker 2: And now and now I can openly pay these play
Speaker 2: now I can't lie about it anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't have to give them cars, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: put the keys of the envelope and slide under the
Speaker 1: dorm room door, you know, to do that anymore. All Right,
Speaker 1: last week I was thwarted. This week we're gonna try again.
Speaker 1: It's time for a new segment. We like to call
Speaker 1: Florida Man. That's right, every day there's something wacky that
Speaker 1: happens in the state of Florida, and I want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Uh and uh this one today it
Speaker 1: happened to an attorney. A Florida attorney was arrested after
Speaker 1: allegedly hitting a man with a plate at a wedding buffet.
Speaker 1: So they were all invited to the same wedding first
Speaker 1: of all, So it wasn't like an open buffet. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like the OCB, right, it was Actually they were
Speaker 1: all invited to the same place. Mark rowher, we're.
Speaker 2: Going to be in Vegas with buffets. We better be
Speaker 2: careful and listen to this deeply. We got all the
Speaker 2: Vegas buffets coming in.
Speaker 1: That's part why I want to talk about this year
Speaker 1: because I know, well, there you go. So Mark Rower
Speaker 1: allegedly attacked the victim due to the man's daughter cutting
Speaker 1: in front of line at the steak carving station. Now
Speaker 1: I understand some people take their steak very seriously. This
Speaker 1: happened on January eighteenth. He denies the allegations, but apparently
Speaker 1: there was a cutting that happened, an argument ensued, and
Speaker 1: somebody hit somebody with a plate. That being said from
Speaker 1: the two remaining teams, the Kansay Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Who would you most like to go up to the
Speaker 1: buffet with so that you don't have an incident like
Speaker 1: this happened at the carving station. I say, Jalen Carter,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. I think I show up to the buffet,
Speaker 1: me and my boy Jaalen Carter. Nobody's messing with us.
Speaker 1: The sea's part, the lines move away. We get first
Speaker 1: serve on everything. We get the right cut that we
Speaker 1: want at the carving stations, we get the extra toppings
Speaker 1: at the Sunday station. We get it all whatever we want,
Speaker 1: from appetizer to dessert. Me and my boy Jayalen Carter.
Speaker 1: Who is your backup at the buffet. And this is
Speaker 1: important too, because when we go to Vegas this might
Speaker 1: come up.
Speaker 2: Well, how about give me the referees of the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs, the Kansas City's handpicked referees to hold back
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, no, no, no, that guy's illegal.
Speaker 2: They'll call a foul, they'll get the cops involved. They're
Speaker 2: on my side. Give me the Chiefs refs. Always, I
Speaker 2: don't need one player, I just need the rest.
Speaker 1: One piece of chicken per person. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: You can't go back for a second.
Speaker 2: Throw, yeah, throw, They'll throw the flags. I'll be like, no,
Speaker 2: that's too much, Mac, that's way too, way too much.
Speaker 1: If you hit the tray and you leave the thing open,
Speaker 1: they come over. You left the tray open, the food's
Speaker 1: gonna get cold. They throw a flag.
Speaker 2: What are you most looking forward to on the Vegas
Speaker 2: buffet that we're gonna have? Is there like a singular thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know, to tell you the truth. The two
Speaker 1: times I have been to Vegas, I don't remember doing
Speaker 1: of the buffets.
Speaker 2: We should do buffet reviews when we're there.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a big breakfast guy, so you want to
Speaker 1: hit a break They do breakfast buffets. It's Vegas. They
Speaker 1: do everything, dude.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's hit a butt. We'll do breakfast, we'll
Speaker 2: do lunch, we'll do dinner, we'll do.
Speaker 1: Multiple fp is, you know, taking us to nice dinners.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because they are always doing a nice
Speaker 1: job there. But the breakfast buffet. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on at the hotel, but I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: breakfast offe. I'm all in.
Speaker 2: Okay, last one who is most likely at fantasy pros
Speaker 2: to hit somebody with a plate at a buffet.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. I'm gonna say Mike Mayor
Speaker 1: because he has such inner rage. I think Mike Mahyor
Speaker 1: is like somebody would just it would be a the
Speaker 1: silent burn and they would go there and they would
Speaker 1: cut in front of him and they would take the
Speaker 1: last piece of something he wanted and he would just
Speaker 1: lose it. Now, also keep in mind Mike Mayor also
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan.
Speaker 2: Just saying Okay, I think that's the one one. I
Speaker 2: think there's some there's people people don't know that we
Speaker 2: could say that would be fun. But I think Mike Mayor,
Speaker 2: of the public fantasy people, that's a really real one.
Speaker 1: I can't beat the Eagles fan comes out. That's that's
Speaker 1: when violence.
Speaker 2: Okay, Andrew Rickson, because Ericson likes to have fun in Vegas,
Speaker 2: you might get a little too heead of himself and
Speaker 2: accidentally hit.
Speaker 1: Considering what I saw in Tennessee in Nashville, I'm a
Speaker 1: little worried about Vegas with Erickson. But we'll see and
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