1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Revere revely. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is Friday, January twenty ninth, twenty twenty one. 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: This right here, your combat sports home known as Morning Combat. Hey, 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: it's morning somewhere right. My name is Brian Campbell, the 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: beij one, the BBC. Hey, I think he's got that 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: BDE as well today, right, Yes, thank you representing CBS 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Sports showtime whoever will pay me really at this point? Okay? 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: And the guy next to me, you know him, some 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: of you love him. He's big, he's opinionated, he's a 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: Harry Bastard. CBS Sports own the best in the world. 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: That would he does? Luke Thomas, Luke, it's Friday, orange background, 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: no j BC in the director's chair. How are you, bro. 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, good sir, Happy to be here. It's 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: a Friday. Not a lot happening in the combat sports 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: world in terms of events tomorrow a little bit, a 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: little bit, we'll get to that. But uh, it's freezing 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: cold here in the nation's capital. Is it but cold 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: up in Connecticut as well? 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Connecticut we have a feels like today of 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: negative nine. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Is that what you're dealing with? 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: It's below freezing here but not quite that still enough 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: where it's like, do I want to walk the dogs 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: for very long? No? I do not want to walk 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: the dogs for very long. 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: It's luke, it's they used to say, right, the old timers, 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: it's colder than a witch's titty. 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard that expression. I don't really know what 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: that means, except to say that those things must have 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: been cold. 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, those slapjacks must have been Look, why don't we 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: always have to start with misogyny, right? I mean, can't 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: we evolve? 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Please? I mean if listen, if war had titties, we 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: would probably talk about how cold they are as well. 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: But I guess that they don't, and I guess that 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: they're not. So here we are, Oh we Yeah. 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have much to report today, but 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: some people think, Luke, that's when we do our best work, right, 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: So let's see what we got today. A couple housekeeping items. 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: Please like this video, Please subscribe to the Frickin' rocket 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: Ship that is Morning combat, not just this right, three 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: live shows per week. 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There's much hipper 69 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 3: merch on the horizon, they say, but you know, they've 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: been saying a lot of things too, including how do 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: we get this merch to our passionate fans overseas? So 72 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm figured it out, Luke. 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, the industrious ones they smuggle it, but everybody 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: else just whins. 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Remember what Willie Nelson said and half baked? Luke, do 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: you know how much condoms costs back in the day? 77 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Don't? 78 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: No, we never used them? Yeah, all right. Also, Luke, 79 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: if you want to try Showtime for thirty days, and 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: I really, I really encourage you to do that because 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: why not? Right, it's free ninety nine, head on over 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: to Showtime dot com. Get a thirty day trial. Here's 83 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: what you're gonna get. World Championship Boxing, great documentary shows 84 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: you like, I don't know what do you like? You're 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: gonna find it there the comedy store, doc printed shops 86 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: in that Hey he was on Rogan. 87 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: Did you just check that out, Luke, I've not seen 88 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: it yet. 89 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: No, all right, Well you know it's there on that website. 90 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: So that's all we got here, Luke. You got any 91 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: other You got weekend plans it there's not a bunch 92 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: of fights this week. Before we get into the headlines. 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: You got anything. Uh, Are you gonna hunker down and 94 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: hibernate this weekend? 95 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: No downhill? Yeah, not a whole lot going on. I 96 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: think it's supposed to snow here on Sunday, So we 97 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: got really just one day to go out, and it's 98 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: gonna be ass cold. I don't know what we're gonna do. 99 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I think we're just going to We don't have any 100 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: real plans to be quite candy with it's COVID. What 101 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: the fuck can you really do when the outdoors are, 102 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, below freezing and there's no end. By the way, 103 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't live like near a mountain where you can 104 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: just go, let's go skiing. It's like that's not really 105 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: an option either. So yeah, I don't know. I don't 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: know what we're gonna do. It's gonna be a nice 107 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: and boring BC. 108 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: All right, all right, maybe you'll put on your favorite 109 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: song ass Titties, ass Titties. 110 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: Right. DJ Assault is a legend in these parts, don't 111 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: you dare but smirch that name? All right? 112 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: All right, shout out to everyone in your fine family, 113 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: including Mocha and and Uncle Philippe. Great stuff. All right, 114 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: let's get to the show this week here, we go. 115 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: Luke's favorite topic to kick off right, crossover celebrity boxing. Yes, 116 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: the afore mentioned Jake Paul, who has signed on in 117 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: April on a Triller pay per view to take on 118 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: former MMA star and world champion Ben Askron, is digging 119 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: deeper into the MMA playbook, Luke, to train for boxing. 120 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 3: What does that mean? That means he has joined the camp. 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's permanent. I don't know if 122 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: it was one day, but video has emerged that Jake 123 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: Paul is joining forces with Jorge Masvidal to prepare him 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: for a quick ko of Ben Askron. Now, Luke, the 125 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: video was weird. Apparently we don't have it right now 126 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: with my fault on that, but it shows Jake Paul 127 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: being taught by game Bread the running move that he 128 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: did to hit Askron with the flying knee only instead 129 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: of flying knee since this is boxx, aoh, it's sort 130 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: of a flying Superman punch. Your reaction to this bellshit, Luke. 131 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, let me just let me just pull back 132 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: the curtain here a little bit. I was thinking about 133 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: this this morning. What does it say about us that 134 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: we're leading the podcast with this? 135 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Seriously, that we're trying to troll our audience hard and 136 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: troll you at the same time. 137 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: Okay, the trolling me part. I get it's one of 138 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: your favorite things to do. All right, check that off 139 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the list. I mean, I don't know what to say 140 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I don't even know if we 141 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: should be like talking about this. Like, here's my question 142 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: to you. And I was thinking about this too. It's like, 143 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: are we going to include every piece of minutia or 144 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: detail about what the Paul brothers do? Now? I mean, 145 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: I get you can't, like you can't escape it. On 146 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: some level. You got to include it, I think a 147 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: little bit. But this to me seems like a fairly 148 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: minor detail, a pretty dumb one at that, And it's 149 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: like we're leading the show with it. I don't know 150 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: if that's such such a smart call. 151 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: B See, well, you know, I don't know if this. 152 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: First of all, you know, I don't have producer credit, 153 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: so I started they didn't make this rundown. 154 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: You certainly you certainly when the producer who did make 155 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: the show was asking for topics your boy, you went silent. 156 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: And so I don't know what happened to guy was 157 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: in a day three of the diet from our fat 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: weekend uh uh carbs withdrawal. I was like a you know, 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: an ex heroin addict. I was not in a position 160 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: to approve topics, So I really have no idea what's 161 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: coming next. But I will say, Luke, there was no 162 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: shortage of offers being thrown out there to the Paul's 163 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: or the Askirins to prepare for this fight. Do you 164 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: think Jake put on your serious cap for thirty seconds? 165 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: Is there anything Jorgey can do to prepare Jake Paul 166 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: to knock out? 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: And ask? Yeah, sure, I mean we talked about best 168 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: boxers in MMA, Jorges on that list. I mentioned this 169 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: yesterday on yesterday's live chat, and you might say, well, 170 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: the part that's weird is like, it's not that Jorge 171 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to strike, he quite obviously does. And 172 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: it's not like he doesn't know how a box he 173 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: quite obviously does. But it's like, I mean, as qualified 174 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: as Jorge is on many different forms of combat, wouldn't 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: you go to a pure boxer if you're going to 176 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: be in a pure boxing match? I guess maybe not, 177 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: because you know what the hell is ask him gonna do? 178 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, he had two UFC fights where he didn't 179 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: land a single significant strike. You know, it's like getting 180 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: unorthodox with it in ways that Jorge can I suppose 181 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: makes sense. But I just find this whole thing fucking stupid, 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: and I vote I would like to motion that we 183 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: only give attention to this fucking fight to the extent 184 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: there is any kind of a major headline, like the 185 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: fight is off or here are the results or something 186 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: like that, because this is this is and it's it's 187 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: my fault. But this is the world's dumbest story, all right, 188 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: we are only making it dumber. 189 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: This is the only motion I think you have for 190 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: this fight. I got a little bit more interest, but uh, 191 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: do you have a uh of the two celebrity Paul 192 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: fights on the docket, does either one interest you more? 193 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: No, dude, No no no, no, no, no no no 194 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: no no, As my daughter goes, no, no, no, no, 195 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: no no no. We are trying to align different parts 196 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: of the world for some kind of yomama contest, and 197 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the meeting in the middle only happens in a place 198 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: where both guys aren't good at it, Like that's the 199 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: only way to make it happen. That's what on earth 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: could be the fucking appeal unless you're fifteen or you 201 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: are in a traumatic car accident. I don't understand now. 202 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: I've done some brain damage from drinking BC. Okay, all right, 203 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: you know guilty is charge there. 204 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: Don't tell me fish Dana White please. 205 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so you know I'm on the same level 206 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: as him, exactly. We've done all the same things, and 207 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: we have sacrifice on the altar of athletic achievements just 208 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: the same way. But in all seriousness, it's like, dude, 209 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: I just I'm trying. I'm trying, and I can't. I just, oh, Luke, 210 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: have some fun. This is not the way I have fun. 211 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I have fun watching Max Holloway. That is how I Well, look, 212 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: you can't do it, Looke. 213 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: Part of your job. I mean, you disagree with my 214 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: interpretation of your job, which is to make educated predictions. 215 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: And I get that we have there's a gap between 216 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: us there. That gap will probably always be there, Luke. 217 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: Maybe that gap fuels our chemistry and will eventually become 218 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: our demise. But Luke, sometimes you have to talk about 219 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: fights and fighters that you don't love. 220 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, every day I don't want that. 221 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: So I want to get an early feeling here since 222 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: you won't entertain us with your thoughts, do you who 223 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: do you think is gonna win this? Damn Paul askri 224 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: and fight. 225 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, just to be clear, I don't mean to 226 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: be demeaning towards what like, here's what I'm Here's here's 227 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: what I'm concerned about. I'm concerned that if we get 228 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: in the habit of just magnifying everything that the Paul 229 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: brothers do, that this will become just a force of habit. 230 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, the Paul brothers farted on Instagram. Let's 231 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: make sure we talk about that because they tagged him 232 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: and Dennis in it, or something like. I just want 233 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: to make sure we don't get down that path like 234 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: who's gonna win? I have no fucking idea who's gonna win? 235 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: For all the reasons aforementioned these neither of them or boxers. 236 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: One was a hugely legitimate athlete, but certainly has been 237 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: through it a little bit again, including hip surgery. The 238 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: other one is, you know, Dennis the menace meets car 239 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: crash victim, you know, meets fetal alcohol syndrome. I mean, 240 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about this guy. 241 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Are you talking calling him a SID survivor? This is 242 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: not good. 243 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just listen. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. 244 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I want to make sure very careful about this show. 245 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Do we have latitude on this show producer credits or no, 246 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: we have latitude? We can choose what the fuck we 247 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: will know? 248 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: I've got longitude, if you know what I'm saying, BD Luke. 249 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: But I like how you. I like how you wait 250 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: for other dudes to tell you you have that, as 251 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: if that's some kind of like proof of it. But listen, 252 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: in all seriousness, Uh, you know, I do think the 253 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: story here that's kind of interesting. Is Jorge like never 254 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: pumping the breaks on aligning himself with this And I 255 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: guess the answer to that is what the dude is 256 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: trying to maximize celebrity. That guy has it, so just 257 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: welcome him into your home, so to speak. Is that 258 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: the idea? 259 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's it, bro, that's it. I did. Look, 260 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: I would not be doing my job as a journalist. 261 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: This is not meet you attempting to troll you, although 262 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: sometimes that's a great area. But if the Paul Brothers 263 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: you found out were twenty five percent Colombian. Would your 264 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: analysis change a little at least we're showing our cards here, Luke. Okay, yeah, 265 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: but here's the truth. 266 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: I said it before. I said it before. Peel like, 267 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: you can't take them seriously, you can't do to this, 268 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I will say, I will. I will repeat this to 269 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: the end of the earth. It is. This is true 270 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: for them, it's true for anybody in the world. I 271 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: will take you seriously when you do something worth being 272 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: taken serious. Right, take a real fight, that's a real challenge, 273 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: that's a real part of a cycle of growth for 274 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: a professional fighter, and I will take it seriously. But 275 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: that's not what they're doing. This is all fucking circus act. 276 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: How many clowns can we fit in the car? And 277 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna get rich doing it, which we talked about. 278 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: It's a real lucrative thing. Although I guess I don't 279 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: know what's happening with the older Paul brother and Mayweather 280 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: we've talked about, I guess on Wednesday, But you know, 281 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: at least for this particular case, I do think it'll 282 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: it'll make, you know, make these guys some money, and 283 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: so I sort of understand it. But on some level, 284 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: it's like, dude, like if you get to sit in 285 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: this chair, we get on just some level, on some level, 286 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: we get to be taste makers a little bit. We 287 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: should tell the audience this is bullshit, because it is, 288 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: and we should tell them it's dumb. If you want 289 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: to watch dumb things, I watch dumb things sometimes everyone does. Okay, 290 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: but that's what it is. 291 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: It's dumb, all right, mister, No fun left is back. 292 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: But that's fine. We can we can pivot to more clowns. Look, 293 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: speaking of clowns, you ever get this? 294 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: This? 295 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: This two b app to you b I. It's free app. 296 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: It's got movies and TV. I only downloaded because it 297 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: was a document he was looking to find to be 298 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: they've got I think it's like a it's like a 299 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: Pluto TV Foubo TV type deal. They got Killer Clowns 300 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: from outer Space on there under the uh under the 301 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: cult classics folder? Are you a big fan of that? 302 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I will cop to it. I've actually I know of 303 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: the movie. I've never seen it. Is it good or what? 304 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Is it? So? 305 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: Painfully good? Painfully bad? 306 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: But good? 307 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a it's a trip. Look, it's a ride. 308 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: All right, is it like, uh, do you remember do 309 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: you remember in the eighties? What was big was like 310 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: I think nineties to an extent to you remember Leprechaun 311 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: and all the Leprechaun series. 312 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: Dude, those were badass. I stand behind the Leprechaun just 313 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: like I stand behind some of the Ernest Library like 314 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: slam Dunk Ernest you know, I mean, come on. 315 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Ernest was basically just like who was he? Like the 316 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: white Tyler Perry, you know, because it's always like Ernest 317 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: goes to prom Ernest goes to jail, Ernest goes to space, 318 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: and then media does all that shit. 319 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people think if Ernest was still around today, 320 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: he'd be co hosting the show with you, Luke. You know, 321 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: all right, looke, speaking of clowns, let's move on here. Uh. 322 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: Former former UFC champion Tito Hortiz in the headlines you 323 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: may have remembered from his recent political foray getting voted 324 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: in in California and his native Huntington Beach in the 325 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: city council mayor pro tem. The hell does that mean? 326 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: Mayor pro tem? Luke? 327 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Basically he's the guy who it's like vice mayor, 328 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: so to speak. Like if the mayor can't do the job, 329 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: he would fill in. 330 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: Anytime you mix Latin in here, it confuses me, right, 331 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's like a trial coming up. Somebody's pro bono. 332 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I've been pro bono for a long time. 333 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: Bro al right, all right, I had I had cinemax 334 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: as a kid. Uh, Luke, there's rumors here that he 335 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: could be removed. 336 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Now. 337 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: Look, ever since he was elected, there's been a and 338 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: if you want to detrol him hard, all you had 339 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: to do was follow the headlines. Because he's getting thrown 340 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: out of public meetings. He's doing his typical Tito extreme 341 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: extreme right wing takes mixed with let's let's call a 342 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: spade a spade, because Dana has for years, is Tito 343 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: the most intelligent man in this world? Luke? No, he's 344 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: gonna be removed as quick as he was voted in. Luke. 345 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: This is William Henry Harrison Territory here, who died a 346 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: month in the office as US president. 347 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: H your thoughts, Luke, I find a story fascinating. I 348 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: find a story of a guy who banked on existing 349 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: celebrity what was left of it certainly still you know, 350 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: good name recognition, and obviously he has fame, just not 351 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: just exclusive to Mma. Remember he was on a season 352 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: of The Apprentice with President or former President Trump anyway, 353 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: and and you know has sort of been making the 354 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: rounds in media for a long long time. And dude, 355 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I will say this about Tito, like he's always been 356 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: a very naturally good, instinctively understanding how to self promote. 357 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I think even his critics don't understand that. Like, you know, 358 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: if you follow like mahosheina Depot on Twitter, the guy 359 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: can't strength together a sentence to save his life. Do 360 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: you remember the one for the for the uh not 361 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: the affliction card, but the well he did the affliction 362 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: and you know postfi interviews which was a disaster, But 363 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: do you remember that when he was supposed to fight 364 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: Chuck the third time and he was talking to Radio 365 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: Rahim and he was talking about Chuck reaching for those grapes? 366 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: He remember this. I can barely recite what he was 367 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: actually trying to say because it was just, you know, 368 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: completely garbled English. But the truth is he actually is 369 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: a very good He just understands naturally how to promote himself. 370 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: And so I think that's actually really expanded how far 371 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: he would have ordinarily gone given his abilities, which at 372 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: some time were considerable, but you know, been gone for 373 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: a while, and so he ended up doing this thing 374 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: where he emulated Trump in every kind of way, not 375 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: so much for the grandiosity of the office, which was 376 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, President, but for his local one. And you know, 377 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: it was just obviously apparent to anybody on the outside. 378 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: This guy is just totally I mean, this guy is 379 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: way out of his depth, and he was still able 380 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: to get elected. I saw some reports from local Orange 381 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: County media being like, hey, why'd you vote for this guy? 382 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of them are like, hey, seem nice. 383 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: He was popular. He seems to love Huntington Beach. They 384 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: didn't really give it any consideration or didn't know him 385 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: in the way that the MM community might. And it 386 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: has been a disaster. It has been a disaster from 387 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: the word go. He is documenting all the places he 388 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: is getting kicked out of, which have whether you like 389 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: it or not, you know, what is a business supposed 390 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: to do if there's a mask ordinance on some level, 391 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: they have to comply. It's not like they have a choice. 392 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: He goes to these places they ask him to wear 393 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: a mask. He refuses, They tell him to leave, and 394 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: then he puts it on social media, which totally backfires 395 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: on him. He doesn't understand is it's one thing to 396 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: be tudor tiz Mma fighter, but you have switched. You 397 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: are now public servant. So now he's tdo or T's 398 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: public servant and dude, constituents are going to get in 399 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: your fucking face and they're gonna say really mean and 400 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: nasty things to you, and he is obviously having a 401 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: very hard time doing that. He has checked out from meetings. 402 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, there is just a string of people 403 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: out there who think that politics is some kind of 404 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: performative art on a grand stage for me, when actually 405 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: you know what it is. It's where does stop signs go? 406 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Do we have any issues with the water supply? Here's 407 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: the zoning board meeting, We need to get rid of 408 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: these potholes on Highway fifty nine or whatever. It's actually, 409 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: you have to govern, you actually have to do things. 410 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: He is so out of his depth that three months 411 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: in you have the mayor and two other city council 412 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: members begging him to be removed from the role of 413 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: not only pro tem but they want him kicked off 414 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: the council altogether. Now, I don't know how successful that 415 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: will be BC, but it's like this, it's like this 416 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: weird reality he's been able to craft for himself of identity. 417 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: And like my dad told me this one time, Like 418 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: what the word sophomore means in actual is it Latin 419 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: or Greek whatever the origin of the word is In Latin, 420 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: it actually means having the form of substance, but not 421 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: any actually substance inside. And that's what this is. It's 422 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: the form of some identity. Hey, I was a guy 423 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: on TV, I had a really successful career as an athlete. 424 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: I've been in the public eye for a long time. 425 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: And then inside it's a totally empty suit. And he's 426 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: having a hard time understanding that. He's having a hard 427 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: time dealing with it. And dude, there is national media 428 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: all over this guy. For every mistake he is making. 429 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Talk about biting off more than you could chew. 430 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is comical. Look, are you making 431 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: a case indirectly for monarchy, for the idea that the 432 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: you give too much freedom to the people to vote 433 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: in the people they want, And this is what happens, Luke. 434 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: No Uh, you know, I think elections have consequences and 435 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: they got to live with it. But if it were 436 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: the place that I lived, I wouldn't vote for this 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: guy for dog Catcher. I mean he is utterly incompetent. 438 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: Well, he does have a good double leg, Luca, I 439 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: could see him. I could see him getting in on 440 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: a rotwiler, Luke, Okay, I mean dog Catcher. Actually, Luke, 441 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: if you really want to, you know, suspend the the 442 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: that joke and go into it. It might and it 443 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: might actually be his future. Uh, Luke. I referenced earlier 444 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: in the show that I have brought back to life 445 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: a former CBS Sports State of Combat recurring series, Uh 446 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: story Time with the Great Sugar Rashot Evans where we 447 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: go fight by fight in his great career and he 448 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: tells us incredible details, including that time he pissed his 449 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: pants and the Ultimate Fighter finale against Brad Aims during 450 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: the fight, Luke and nobody saw it. We did record 451 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: an episode yesterday from his first fight with Tito Ortiz 452 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven. Do you have any recollections 453 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: of this one? It was a draw? 454 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: This was a draw? Correct? 455 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: Yes? 456 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh didn't Tito put it on him early and 457 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: then Rashad kind of came back late. Is that how 458 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: it went? 459 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rashad took him down lay you know, Tito had 460 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: a guillotine to end round two. Rashad, though with the 461 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: announcers all over him, made a flurry in the final 462 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: minute to take him down and put it on him 463 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: to scrape the draw. And what's crazy, Luke, is you 464 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: know that was a couple of months after Rampage knocked 465 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: out Chuck and Rashad not getting that loss instead of 466 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: getting a draw propelled him into that run where he 467 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: beat Bisbing, he beat Chuck, and he beat Forrest for 468 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 3: the belt and it sent Tito, who fresh off being 469 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: knocked out by Chuck in the rematch, to like six 470 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: losses in seven fights. So it's an interesting fight in 471 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 3: the in the growth and career of Rashad evans a 472 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: lot of cool details. I encourage everyone to check it out, Luke, 473 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: while I have the area here as hosts to promote 474 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: more of my own things since we don't really have 475 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: a strong rundown today, Luke. I did interview Eddie Alvarez 476 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: this week, and he is getting lit the hell up 477 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: for making the claim that he even wait wait. 478 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Wait, before we pivot into Eddie, you don't have any 479 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: like thoughts about how weird this whole story is. 480 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: Oh, Tito, Okay, yeah, I mean it's a joke. I 481 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: do tend to understand why people are like, screw politics. 482 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: I hate it. It's divisive. All these guys are crooks 483 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: to begin with. So when a celebrity emerges, even a 484 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, to be honest, it can open up the doors. 485 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 3: Remember when Howard Stern was running for governor of New 486 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 3: Jersey in the nineties, You know what I mean. At 487 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: that time, you're like, yeah, let's get somebody wild and 488 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: crazy in there to break up and be a maverick, Right, 489 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: we love that term, and and just you know, yeah, 490 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: but Tito's not that guy. So this is predictably sadly hilarious. 491 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: Luke this ending, right, I. 492 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: Mean, here's the part. It's not even the ending yet, 493 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Like we have to see I mean, it would do. 494 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: We're just three months into this term. We got to 495 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: see how this whole thing plays out. There is a 496 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: long I mean, the drop to the bottom on this 497 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: one could be much worse than merely the mayor and 498 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: two council members asking for him to be removed from this. 499 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: But I just find it like this weird reality check 500 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: where you can have you can use it's like, you 501 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: know what it is to me, It's like the Paul 502 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Brothers like using YouTube to be like, oh, our case, 503 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: I like, I'm a rapper. Well you're kind of a 504 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: rapper on YouTube. You know, it's not really real. And 505 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: then in this particular case, like they're fighting Ben Ascar, 506 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: which is a real fight in certain ways, but not 507 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: the way that is necessarily intended, and then actually trying 508 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: to like do something with it with a real career. 509 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Then you know, oh my fucking god, here it is 510 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: the storm. This is why people play act. This is 511 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: why people tend. This is what they posture because the 512 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: actual act of doing the hard stuff, uh, and they 513 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: don't have the stomach for. 514 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, this ain't Ronald Reagan making the transition Luke from 515 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: acting to governor of California, and eventually not everyone. 516 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Can make that switch. Bro Schwartz and. 517 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: Bernald Schwarzenegger or Jesse Ventura Luke who had pretty good 518 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: success in their own right taking politics seriously, right. 519 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Do you do you remember I remember when Jesse see 520 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: but Jesse Ventura was a little bit weird because he was, uh, 521 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, that was just sort. 522 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: Of you're see, you're automatically using the word weird to 523 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: put him in a box because as a former what 524 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: Navy seal or whatever he was, he was like, he 525 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: feels like he see he he knows where the bodies 526 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: are buried. He has seen how the machine works, Luke, 527 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: So he was very open to trying to expose that, 528 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: and he's certainly doing it now with podcasts and TV shows. 529 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: So you automatically want to exposing truth. 530 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: Is that what he's doing and the lunatic Ben. You 531 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: and I had a text exchange about this last night, Luke. 532 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jessinturno, I thought the most interesting thing he's done 533 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: more recently has been that he sued the guy who 534 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: claimed to be like the American sniper whose name I 535 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: forget who remember in his book essentially defamed him, and 536 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: Ventura sued him. Ventura sued this fucking guy, which is 537 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: very hard to win on and did and actually won 538 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: because it turned out he just made up a bunch 539 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: of shit in this book about I mean, who knows 540 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: what all he made up, but certainly about Ventura. He 541 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: made up a bunch and uh, he won that shit outright. 542 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: I thought, actually I was good for Jesse Ventura. But 543 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: here's what I mean, Like even. 544 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: Schwartze and made up too, Luke, the government's made up 545 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: a ton of shit that Jesse's tried to expose as well. 546 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: Is that what he's done, is that how he spend 547 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: his time. 548 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: Maybe you're too close to the flame, having been you know, 549 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: grew up in d C, having been in the Marines. 550 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: It's sort of like, Luke, is every Mason part of 551 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: the illuminati? No, right, right, some of those guys are 552 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 3: just you know, they raised my mind for kids, and 553 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: they do nice things, and they have a weekly club 554 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: they go to. They don't know what the top's doing, right, Luke, 555 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: I would expect more from you in the conspiratorial understanding 556 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: and the wake up and the knowledge. 557 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: But the problem is the problem is I'm not I'm 558 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: not more too dumb ideas in the way that some 559 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: people are. Here's the point. Schwarzenegger was a little bit 560 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: different than Ventura because he was a little bit outside 561 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: of the establishment as well, but he was much more 562 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: of it relative to Jesse Ventura, and so I think 563 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: that enabled him to do what he did, but both 564 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: of them had some difficulty governing as well. None, None, 565 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: like Tito Ortiz, who you know, Schwarzenegger is my hero personally, 566 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: but Tito Ortiz, boy, he is, I mean, out the 567 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: gate stumbling over his feet. 568 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: Now, Schwarzenegger does have skeletons in the closet. Luke, there 569 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: was a maid. 570 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that one's always been weird. It's true, 571 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: but like, I don't deny the story, but it's like 572 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: I was all surprised by some of the choices he 573 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: made in his life, if that makes sense. 574 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: Like, you know, Luke, Okay, you can't throw a perfect 575 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: game in life, It's not possible, Luke. I just wanted 576 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: to say that you and I had an interesting text 577 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: exchange last night. Where the extremists nowadays the twenty twenty 578 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one extremist, Luke, they've taken all the things 579 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: I've loved. I feel like going on a Nate Diaz rent. 580 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: You know, hey, far far far right wingers, you've taken 581 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: all I've worked for here. I can't be a conspiracy 582 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: guy anymore because they've ruined that genre. Could I even 583 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: be a Christian anymore? I feel like they've all ruined 584 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: that genre to Luke Okay. 585 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: So in other words, you can't be a conspiracy theoricist 586 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: theorist excuse me without also at this point, in current 587 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: current modern times, unless you hate Jews and all other races. 588 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: Is at the idea It used to be like, oh, 589 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 3: that guy either he knows something or he's a little crazy, 590 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: but he's got interesting theories about the Oklahoma City bombing 591 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 3: or nine to eleven. Now it's you're a friggin racist 592 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: and you just stormed the Capitol steps. You know they 593 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: took that from me, Luke Okay. 594 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to be the guy who rolls 595 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: up to Comet Ping Pong's, like I'm gonna go find 596 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: all where all the kids are, and then you realize 597 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: that you're a fucking idiot and it's actually just a 598 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: pizza place, and then you go to jail for it. 599 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: You know, like, one day I'll expose what's really going 600 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: on in the basement of the Denver Airport, but I 601 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: can't do it publicly anymore. Our people are gonna think 602 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm crazy anyway, Luke, we got to get out of 603 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: here before the sponsors cancel our show. Luke I did 604 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: want to bring up quick as a to plug my 605 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: Eddie Alvarez interview. And by the way, it was a 606 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: bigger news announcement for one Championship than we realize. It's 607 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: not just that April seven card, which is a Wednesday 608 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: night ten pm Eastern on TNT where both Demetrius Johnson 609 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: and Eddie Alvarez will be you know, look, there's a 610 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: big move for one. It's live primetime in the US, 611 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: but it's going to be a series of Wednesday night 612 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: shows throughout April, which is interesting. But Eddie's getting a 613 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: lot of hate here from my interview where he says 614 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: even at thirty seven, he's the guy to be Habib Luke. 615 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: Everyone says that, right, So how I formed the question 616 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: just to be fair here as I said, Look, you 617 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: know you knocked out Geegee and he got destroyed by Habib. 618 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: You had you know, close fights with Dustin and he 619 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: got destroyed. You get you know, you want to fight 620 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: with Connor and Connor got destroyed. What would happen if 621 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: Eddie would have gone in there, you know? And by 622 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: the way, it could have been Eddie and Habib at 623 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: UFC two five and twenty sixteen that's right, Luke, he 624 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: still believes that he that you know that he's the 625 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: guy because he's not great in any category, he says, 626 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: but he's pretty damn good across the board. And he 627 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: did reference the Glison Tebow fight, in which baron BC. 628 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: When I think of very relevant fights, I think of 629 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: the Glease and Teabow fight. You know what I mean. 630 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: Well, the judges didn't give him the respect he may 631 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: have deserved, Luke. I don't know about his bloodstream, but 632 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: he may have. 633 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Deserved thirteen I'm sure. 634 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: Anyway, Luke, let's forget about this version of Eddie, who's 635 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: one in one in one. 636 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Daughters having a fucking meltdown like Godzilla and King Kong 637 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: right outside my door to spot repeated. 638 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, put the ducks on the TV. You know, be fine, Luke. 639 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: Do you do you give any credence to twenty sixteen 640 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: at he Al for as being the guy that maybe 641 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: could have done this? 642 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: No? Fuck, no, I mean twenty sixteen you mean. 643 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean thirty seven year old Eddie's not gonna 644 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: do it. I'm sorry, He's not gonna. 645 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: Do it, all right, No, dude, no one was gonna 646 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: do it. No, no one in this era was gonna 647 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, you know, you find a guy 648 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: one hundred times, could you get a couple of wins 649 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: along the way. Yeah? Sure. I mean it's not a one 650 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent chance he wins every single fight, every single time, 651 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: every single night, if you expose enough, if you have 652 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: enough opportunities to do it. But like in general, you know, 653 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: who's who's up here, who's down there? Habi was the 654 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: best fighter of his generation in his weight class. And 655 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: it's not especially close, and it's not especially controversial. I 656 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: can understand why fighters say this. I mean, the a 657 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: they probably believe it, right, you got, I mean, you 658 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: can't go to me like I can't beat that fucking guy, 659 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean you have to believe you can 660 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: beat him. And so they're gonna say that. And you know, 661 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: in terms of asking questions, it's sort of a fun 662 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: way to go about having an interview, I suppose. So 663 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get these responses, but like just sort of 664 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: taking a step back here, you know, just sort of 665 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: ask yourself what your most prized possession is, like whatever 666 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: that is, you know, your house, your car, I mean 667 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: physical possession, not like some sort of you know, hypothetical 668 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: thing or theoretical So let's say, in my house, right, 669 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: would you bet your house on Eddie Alvarez in twenty 670 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: sixteen to beat number gem made off. I'm sure as 671 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: fuck wouldn't. I would absolutely pick him to win, and 672 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: I'd pick him to win just about every time. If 673 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I lose the house, Okay, I lose the house, but 674 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: I like my chances on habib and to keep my 675 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: home looke. 676 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: Final note on one and again, look, you know we 677 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: we've rassed on that organization plenty of times, but we've 678 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: also you know, I mean, we left out a little 679 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: bit of hope. If they can bring this to the 680 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: US and excite us, so we're not chasing some stream 681 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: and they can put on fights we care about. They 682 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: can carve a niche. If you were looking for more 683 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: front yard workout equipment and you went on Facebook Marketplace 684 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: and you saw Dan, this is a great ass deal. 685 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: Holy crap, the guy will ship it to me too. 686 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: But then you see the seller's name is Shatri Sidyong Tong. 687 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: What do you do? 688 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: You know I'd make sure I buy through PayPal because 689 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: it would be easier to get a refund that way. 690 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: I was actually tweeting about it today. I was going 691 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: through the one Championship YouTube channel, and I guess in 692 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: October they put out this like, hey, geographic video over 693 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: him over chauchery and like there are parts of his 694 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: life where you know, his family lost all their money 695 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: and his mom had to move into his dorm room 696 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: in college for a time. And you know, I'm sure 697 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: that there is a lot to be said for that 698 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: about having a hard scrabble background and using it to 699 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: fuel success. Okay, fair enough, but they really sort of 700 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: dig into that number. One second of all, they just 701 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: go on to make a series of claims that are 702 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: just totally you know, refuted by actual real reporting with numbers, 703 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: with data, with documents, with testimonials, that doesn't in any 704 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: way show what they're showing. It's like, dude, everything from 705 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: this company everything, Like they had video, they had fights 706 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: that came out today Rugrug won the guy from LAMB 707 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: Wrestling in Senegal was amazing, and there was a bunch 708 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: of stuff that came out that was pretty cool. Like 709 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: their product, of all products we see, is actually the 710 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: best situated to compete because of how unique their rule 711 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: sets are and how unconstrained they are by athletic commissions, 712 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: and yet everything they do is so mired in myth 713 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: and exaggeration, frankly outright falsehoods, and some mix of everything 714 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: else in between. You just it's hard to know what 715 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: you're getting at any given time. I like their rule set. 716 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: I think it's good. I like the diversity and how 717 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: they have fights with rings and cages and this size 718 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 1: glove and that size glove. I think it's fun what 719 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: they do. But they are just utterly unreliable people in 720 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: every way. 721 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's that's that's not it's it's harsh, 722 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: but it might be fair. All right, mortcom we'll see 723 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: Luke speaking of potentially unreliable people. Hey, big news this week. 724 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: This isn't our rundown famed or is it infamous? Referee 725 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: Mario yamas Psaki has announced he has intentions to re 726 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: enter an MMA cage in twenty twenty one. In an 727 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: interview with MMA Fighting Luke, he said he hasn't worked about, 728 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 3: of course, since February third, twenty eighteen, in Brazil. He's 729 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: waiting for the pandemic to be over so he can 730 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: start applying to athletic commissions again and he says, maybe 731 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: not the UFC, but Bellator, PFL, Shootout, other promotions. So 732 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 3: I can be back in this sport. It's going to 733 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: be up to the athletic commissions to accept me and 734 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: license me and start giving me fights to referee. End quote, Luke, 735 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: this is almost Mazagati territory in terms of someone who 736 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: draws the ire of one Dana White. Did Yamasaki in 737 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: his exit? Did he get a bad deal? Is it 738 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 3: overblown that this guy could end up killing a man? 739 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: I like the heart weird thing he does. I like 740 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 3: that fake Instagram or Twitter account with his name on it. 741 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on all things Mario Yamasaki on 742 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: the round? 743 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually a little bit more welcome of his 744 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: return than others I saw. I saw Michael Kiyas, who 745 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: obviously had to deal with Mario when Mario made the 746 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: stoppage in the Kevin Lee fight, which to this day, 747 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, probably not one of his better stoppages no 748 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: matter what side of the you're on. Mario is obviously Brazilian, 749 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: but I know him and his brother really well. They 750 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: lived in DC for decades. Him and his brothers are 751 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: institutions here. They have multiple Yamasaki academies in DC, Maryland 752 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: and Virginia. I know a lot of the Black Belts 753 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: who teach at these places, Like you know, here's the 754 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: thing about Mario Masaki that a lot of people lose 755 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: sight of one. In terms of his contribution to the 756 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: martial arts in this country. I don't know about Brazil, 757 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: but I assume it's something kind of similar. Dude, He's 758 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: done a lot. He has been very, very instrumental in 759 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: spreading jiu jitsu here, in being a part of the 760 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: infrastructure to get more tournaments and to help, you know, 761 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: with law enforcement, that kind of thing. Like him and 762 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: his brother have done a lot there. That doesn't have 763 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: anything to do with the question about how he is 764 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: as a referee, But this idea though he's some fucking 765 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: terrible person like I don't, sorry, no, he's not. He 766 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: has made some really regrettable decisions, I think. But here's 767 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: my point, BC, and I wonder if you agree with it. 768 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: He took time away, which I think was probably necessary 769 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: when he made many mistakes. But when he was in 770 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: the Pacific Catch where Chevchenko fight, he not only let 771 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: it go too long, but he made the mistake of 772 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is why I like referees talking to 773 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: the media, because you actually get a real keen understanding 774 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: of what someone thinks. His reasoning for letting it go 775 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: on was that he wanted her to go out like 776 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: a warrior, which is like barbaric has nothing to do 777 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,959 Speaker 1: with the rule set. I mean, it was a red 778 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: flag of all red flags. He had no choice but 779 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: to stop. At that point, you're gonna be a danger 780 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: to somebody. But what I will say is this, and 781 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's been doing, but if you 782 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: take time off and then you recommit yourself to additional training, 783 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: and then we'll start you off on a small show 784 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: shoots Oill Brazil, you know, maybe some belator undercard or something. 785 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: Really recommit to the process we talked about with Connor 786 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: McGregor's not the same thing, but this idea of how 787 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: committed are you when you stumble taking a step back 788 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: and reteaching yourself and relearning and getting best practices down 789 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: again and really just perfecting the craft. If he is 790 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: interested in something like that, I believe he is deserving 791 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: of a second chance. 792 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, interesting, So Dana destroyed him. Of course after that, 793 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 3: that chef Chenko fight. You mentioned it was interesting in 794 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: his quotes Luke in the NMA Fighting interview where he 795 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: said basically anywhere but UFC. What do you read out 796 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: of that that he just sort of doesn't want the 797 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: the derision that he'll face by coming back. Because it's 798 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: weird because look, this is again I say, this is 799 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 3: Mazagati territory, because that's the guy Dana hated the most. 800 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: Only Mazagati's never really gone away. He's not refering anymore, 801 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 3: but he does work for the Nevada State Commission, so 802 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: he's cage sided at so many big UFC fights, wearing 803 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: the referee shirt, kind of like you know, working the 804 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 3: clock and all that. Luca one of those ring side officials. 805 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 3: I'd love to see the interactions between him and Dana. 806 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 3: But if you're Mario and you want to do this, dude, 807 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 3: go right back into the UFC. Redeem yourself. 808 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: No, Nah, I mean for I mean maybe eventually. I 809 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: mean here's what I would say is if I was 810 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: him and you took the time away, I would go 811 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: to some kind of new certification course. Right, just get 812 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: back out there. You might know a lot of it, 813 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: but there might be some things you just need to resharpen, 814 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: really become a student of refereeing again and then again, 815 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, start slow, SHOOTO some of the LFA, 816 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: something like that, and then as that begins to get better, 817 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: if you've really shown like wow, man like Yamasaki really 818 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: is so much better than he was before, then I 819 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: think you could open yourself up to the conversation of UFC, 820 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: because if you just go right back to the UFC 821 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: without really proving you've made a change, you're gonna be 822 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: subject to unfair scrutiny that could fuck you up and 823 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: get in your head. The last thing you want to 824 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: do is bring that to a fight. You gotta bring calmness, 825 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: you got to bring assuredness, decisiveness, knowledge, You got to 826 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: bring those things to bear as a referee in a fight. 827 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: And if you're not ready to do that, this is 828 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: not the place to be into experiment with that. So 829 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: prove yourself. And you know, if he gets to a 830 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: point where Moore is warranted, well then Moore is warranted. 831 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: And if not, maybe listen, maybe he can have a 832 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: second career as just doing some of the smaller stuff 833 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: without incident. That wouldn't be the worst thing in the 834 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: world either. It doesn't always have to be the most 835 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: grandiose heights. It just needs to be where you can 836 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: do a capable job. Let's see where that is. 837 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, if he's just doing it for 838 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 3: the love of the sport, then do it wherever they'll 839 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: have you. But you know, I was once featured in 840 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: a disparaging video put out by the UFC taking down 841 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: the media, and I'm gonna I'm gonna waltz right back 842 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: into an arena one day, Luke full on billionaire strut, 843 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: all right, Mazagati and I are gonna walk right up 844 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 3: to Dan and be like, how you like me now, 845 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: you old bitch? Right, Okay, I actually. 846 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: Don't think you're going to do that, but I would 847 00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: love to see it. 848 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 3: Who God, I got fired up right there, all right, Luke? 849 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 3: Speaking of interesting headlines. So UFC fighter is he bandam 850 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 3: waite fighter or featherweight Casey Kenny Banhamaite fighter? Correct? 851 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Banaway, He's gonna be fighting Dominic Cruz. 852 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 3: Yes, good call. He was on a Sean O'Malley's podcast, 853 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 3: I Believe, which had some wild topics including heroin and 854 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: other things, and eventually they got around the topic of 855 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: would you smash UFC featherweight women's fighter Megan Anderson and 856 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: Kenny was didn't like the idea. Then they did some 857 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: very you know, guy talk, and it got out to 858 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 3: the internet, Luke. Quicker quicker by the way, than my 859 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: slamming of your interest in Risen. But this is much 860 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 3: more serious, Luke, in a lot of ways, because then 861 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: Megan Anderson saw it and she tweeted, you know, not 862 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: only her dislike of the terms in the conversation, but 863 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 3: you know, the whole idea of a coworker talking about 864 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: another cowork and oh, by the way, this guy's on 865 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 3: the next card I'm fighting when I take on Amanda Newness. Luke, 866 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: there's lines, right, And look, sometimes I've been an absolute 867 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 3: goofball for the sake of comedy and got near those lines, 868 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: and it would have been very regrettable, Luke. And it 869 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: was with the whole Japanese MM thing when people misinterpreted 870 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 3: me jumping over those lines when I necessarily wasn't. So 871 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 3: maybe we all have to pull back here in a 872 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: lot of ways, Luke. All I know is that I 873 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 3: hope we can learn from this situation. But this is 874 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 3: pretty disappointing. Across the board your thoughts. 875 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is interesting, This one is different. This one 876 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: is somewhat unique as a story because, first of all, 877 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: let's be clear about something. They don't enforce it, and 878 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: whether they should or they shouldn't is entirely a matter 879 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: of a separate debate for a different show. But like, 880 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: buy the UFC's Code of Conduct such that it exists, 881 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: and it does and it apparently is still on the books. 882 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 1: Although you know, if you have a sign that says 883 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: sixty five dollars an hour for a speed limit and 884 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: no one ever enforces it, is that really the speed limit? 885 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: You know? But a different case to be made by 886 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: the code of Conduct. What he did is absolutely a 887 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: problem against it and enforceable by punishment. So to be 888 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: clear about that, you're like, oh, well, you know, did 889 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: he break any rules? Technically? Yes, Now I don't think 890 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: the UFC is going to do anything about it other 891 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: than maybe have a call with him. But it really 892 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: gets this really interesting case. We see about a couple 893 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: of things. One, what should you be allowed to say 894 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: on a podcast without reproach? What do people really say 895 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: in private versus public? What can you say about someone 896 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: who you essentially work with. I mean to call them 897 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: coworkers is a little bit of a strain because they're 898 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: independent contractors, but they are all I mean, you can 899 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: be independent contractors and you can still be co workers. 900 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily to both be employed as that designation 901 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: by the person paying your checks. That to be a 902 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: situation that you couldn't necessarily tolerate, or would want to tolerate, 903 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: or want to give any you know, justification to. Here's 904 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: what I would say about it, BC. I think it's 905 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. On the one hand, I mean, I 906 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: think mostly I side with Megan. I mean, you know, 907 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: you're going to put out something for public consumption. It's 908 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: not a private conversation anymore. People like, oh, that's how 909 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: guys talk. Well, that's true. That is a lot how 910 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: a lot of guys talk. You know, I've been in 911 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: around enough locker rooms and around other dudes to know 912 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: in private conversations is how they do it. But you're 913 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: not having a private conversation, are you. You are asking 914 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: the world to tune in, and when you do, the 915 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: world's going to have something to say about it. That 916 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: changes the equation immediately. Number one. The second thing I 917 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: would say, though, is what I do find kind of 918 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: interesting is there's not really a defense to it. But 919 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: you could have this conversation on this podcast about women 920 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: in this way as long as you didn't work with them. Now, 921 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: people might tune in and say you're disgusting and you're 922 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: a pig and you're rude. But the reason why he 923 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: gets in trouble here, I think is because you brought 924 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: it in house. If you were having a conversation, for example, 925 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: about female rappers or just artists or actresses, again, the 926 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: conversation might be lewde and lascivious and gross, right, all 927 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: those kinds of things about what you want to say 928 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: about it, but I don't think you'd get into this 929 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of trouble. The reason this is the trouble is 930 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: you cross two boundaries. One, it was disparaging about a 931 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: coworker and not in a way that's like I'm gonna 932 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: fight this guy, eh about just unnecessarily just spraying the block. 933 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: And Two, there's sort of gender issues in the workplace here, 934 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: and it's just that it's the workplace. I think that's 935 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: what really makes this like the trifecta of fail. Well. 936 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 3: I think what escalated this Luke and look the is 937 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 3: the whole thing inappropriate? Yes, especially on a public forum, 938 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: and then look spin it back on me, Luke, is 939 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 3: he bought sneaky? I think I said that once, well 940 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: yeah she is, okay? But should I talking about that? 941 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 3: Probably not. But Luke, I think it was that that 942 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 3: Kenny was negative, right, that that that's what made it 943 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 3: all the worst and pushed it out to the masses 944 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 3: because you know, they asked if he would smash and 945 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 3: he yeah. 946 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's true either. I mean, if 947 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: he likes. 948 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 3: Well, say, I'm not saying if he would have been 949 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 3: like hell yeah, I would that it's any better. But 950 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't think it gets out there if he was like, 951 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 3: you know, oh, absolutely, she's a beautiful coworker. Right, No, 952 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 3: because he was like uh not no, no, not my no, 953 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 3: no right. Because of that, then suddenly you really double 954 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 3: down on how misogynistic this is and that this conversation 955 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 3: shouldn't be taking place. 956 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy that. I mean I 957 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: buy a little bit. I buy the idea that because 958 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: it was negative it amplified it in ways that maybe 959 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: if it was positive. When I say, by the way, 960 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: when we say positive it's still negative, which is to say, 961 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: you're still talking about how you want to fuck or 962 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: not fuck a coworker. Dude, Like, maybe shelve that one 963 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: for not when the thing is hitting the record button. 964 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: That's just me thinking out loud. But okay, Yes, the 965 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: fact that he was like, you know, I don't want 966 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: to fuck her, she's the grossest thing sinse blah blah 967 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: blahlah blah. Yes, that certainly maybe exacerbated it a little bit. 968 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: But dude, if he had gotten on there and been like, yeah, dude, 969 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: I'd fuck her brains out and blah blah blah blah 970 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: blah and said all this like really you know, very 971 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: graphic things, that still would have been a bad and 972 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: be I think that still would have gotten him in trouble. 973 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: The fact that he answered it in any kind of 974 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: a way other than no comment. Uh, and then like, okay, 975 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: how about this. If he had been like very passive 976 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: about it, you know, you know you she's attractive, you 977 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: know whatever, but or she's not attractive or whatever, maybe 978 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But if you go into detail 979 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: in a negative way like you don't want to or 980 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: detail in a positive way again, which is again dude, 981 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: you can't in the workplace be like, yeah, I want 982 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: to fuck my co workers. 983 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, You're right, you can't do that. I 984 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 3: can't Yeah, so uh, yeah, you're right. I mean I 985 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 3: can't be like, hey, you think our producer Maniche has 986 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 3: a huge hog or not. I can't say things like that, Luke. 987 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to be part of those conversation. 988 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you only want to have it about yourself, 989 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: which makes it weird and kind of uninteresting, but also 990 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: probably safe for public consumption. As a general rule, gentlemen 991 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: of the world, you want to stay out of trouble, 992 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: don't talk about how you would or would not fuck 993 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: your co workers on your wildly or at least, you know, 994 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: at least public fucking podcast. Maybe don't do that, but 995 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: I will say BC and I've gotten in trouble on 996 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: it a little bit on my radio show, like guy Talk, 997 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: which kind of went the way of the Dodo Bird 998 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: by virtue of some of the problems that like Opie 999 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: and Anthony had where they were like having people bang 1000 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: in a church. You know a lot of guys in 1001 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: private do talk this way. I think that should be 1002 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: acknowledged and also would it have been as bad if 1003 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: they had been like, you know, because Michael Kiess and 1004 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: I have a very playful thing going where we're like, 1005 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: who was a bigger teen heart throb the girl who 1006 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: played Topanga or the girl who played Kelly Kapowski. We've 1007 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: never gotten into a whole lot of trouble about that, 1008 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: but I think it's because we were like talking about, 1009 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: as you know, pimply faced teens. Who's pretty kind after? 1010 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a look, seriously, there's a difference between 1011 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 3: soft and hardcore, and even in terms of jokes, who's 1012 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: prettier or even stupid me going oh, I just kind 1013 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 3: of sneaky. That's different than would you smash right? I 1014 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 3: mean there are lines, there are les. 1015 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: Remember I remember when the when the World Cups around 1016 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,919 Speaker 1: for the last one, the Italian team, the men's Italian team, 1017 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 1: they all had Hugo Boss do their photo shoot before 1018 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: they left for the tournament or no Italy was out 1019 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: of it. What team was it? It wasn't Italy, it was 1020 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Argentina maybe whatever, some team where all 1021 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: the dudes are handsome. And I saw a bunch of 1022 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: women on Twitter like talking very sexually suggestive about it, 1023 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: and I really asked myself, you know, dudes do this 1024 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing, but what would the standard be the 1025 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: same for men? And sort of I asked myself, you know, 1026 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer to that question is. 1027 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: I tend to stay away from most of that stuff 1028 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: just as an abundance of caution. I don't think I 1029 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: think there's a way to thread a knee where again, 1030 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: if they're not coworkers, which completely limitates the situation, and 1031 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about the opposite sex, there is a way 1032 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: to like gently have a conversation about you know, the 1033 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: level of attractiveness and to what extent you respond to that. 1034 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: But you've got to be very delicate with it. You 1035 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: got to be kind of minimal with it, and you 1036 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: definitely definitely not a good look to do it about. Hey, 1037 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: you know Jenny who takes the calls at the front 1038 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: of the office. Dude, I'm trying to fuck that this weekend, 1039 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 1: putting that on fucking podcast. Like, it's just the level 1040 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: of risk management there. Yeah, you know, not great. 1041 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 3: Might want to get a Patreon or cancel room service diaries. 1042 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 3: Look before something bad happens, all right, Okay, Luke thank you. 1043 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: This is why when you ask me, hey is so 1044 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 1: and so sneaky, I'm like, try to just move around it, bro, 1045 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: trying to just not step on that landmine. You don't 1046 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: have to step on landmines, you know not. You can 1047 00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: just walk around them. It's pretty easy. 1048 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay. Let me just go on the record though 1049 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,439 Speaker 3: and say you are my co worker. Wouldn't smash it, Luke? 1050 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 3: All right, Luke. Our last topic of the week is 1051 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: an actual fight this Saturday, depending on your level of 1052 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: interest in at PBC on Big Fox IVF super middleweight 1053 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 3: champion and the unbeaten possible future star depending on your 1054 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 3: belief in him, Caleb Plant against another tough out in 1055 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: another Caleb in Caleb true Ax. If you're like, who 1056 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 3: the hex Caleb Truax. Look, he's a former sort of 1057 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 3: tough out journeyman boxer who had his moment in twenty 1058 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 3: seventeen when he went to England and upset James de 1059 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: Gale to win the championship in a fantastic performance. They 1060 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 3: had the rematch shortly after that, a very close fight 1061 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 3: again in which Caleb Truax lost. Now later in his thirties, Luke, 1062 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 3: this is sort of his last big moment to go 1063 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 3: for it. There's been some good trash talk between these 1064 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 3: two on Twitter going back a few years now. The 1065 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 3: Caleb Bowl is finally happening. I think the key sort 1066 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 3: of interest is really moving forward if Caleb Plant gets 1067 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 3: past this Luke and this is a tougher matchup than 1068 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 3: he has enjoyed of late. And what I mean by 1069 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: that is Caleb Plant came out won his title in 1070 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 3: early twenty nineteen against Jose Uzkatagi in a very fun fight. 1071 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 3: He took some damage. He showed you the toughness. Caleb 1072 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 3: Plant has incredible footwork, quick hands. I'm a big fan 1073 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 3: of his future. But Al Haim in the PBC very 1074 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 3: much Luke gave him the uh prop him up matchmaking treatment. 1075 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 3: After that, he took on the subway guy Mike Lee, 1076 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 3: He took on some guy named figin boots. He took 1077 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: on a lot of fights where he was propped up 1078 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 3: to absolutely dominate. I'm not here to tell you Caleb 1079 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 3: TRUEX is a upset special on Saturday, but it is 1080 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 3: a tougher matchup to set up for the future, which 1081 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 3: is Caleb Plant looking to unify, looking to take on 1082 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 3: a David Benavitez looking to get into the Canelo sweepstakes. Luke, 1083 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 3: be honest here, what do you have any interest in 1084 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 3: this on Saturday? 1085 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: No, I mean minimal interest. You're big on Caleb Plants, 1086 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: so I will watch for that reason. If you're wondering 1087 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: about the odds, you can find Plant around anywhere from 1088 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: minus five thousand to minus ten thousand as a favoritely 1089 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: gives you any Yeah, true axes anywhere from about a 1090 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: plus twenty two hundred to a plus three thousand, depending 1091 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: on where you want to look. So not a competitive 1092 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, if you don't know anything about it, 1093 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: it's like you've got true Ax inside fight or to 1094 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: some extent you know smother you volume guy just makes 1095 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: it gritty and grimy, where a Plant is a lot 1096 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: more finesse, and certainly the better boxer of the two. 1097 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: Plant really hasn't beaten anyone to my mind, with a 1098 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: big name. So honestly, here's what's interesting about this. You've 1099 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: got Canelo who has to fight you'll dear him in February, 1100 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: and then the idea is of private recent reports Saunders 1101 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: in May, which we leave his September fight open and 1102 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: you're thinking Caleb Plant might do that. But if I 1103 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: was Plant, man, I think David Benavitez is the forgotten 1104 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: guy in this division. I'd love to see that match up. 1105 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any interest or possibility for it, 1106 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: but it'd be kind of fun. But it's like this 1107 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: particular fight this weekend, this is a ship main event. 1108 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 1: We should just say it. It's not interesting. 1109 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 3: It's a setup for bigger things, which unfortunately in boxing 1110 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 3: you get often. It's sort of like, I have to 1111 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 3: watch this water down fight to get me excited about 1112 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 3: the potential. 1113 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: It's the king of stocking stuffers, bro, it's the kill. 1114 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a stocking stuffer fight. You get to 1115 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 3: see a world class guy and kind of judge how 1116 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 3: we do in the future. I will say, though, if 1117 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 3: Plant falls out of the Canelo sweepstakes, you're right, the 1118 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 3: Benavidez fight is the fight to make perfect style matchup. 1119 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they really don't like each other. 1120 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 3: And this footage online of Plant getting into a beef 1121 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 3: with both Benavidez brothers because this brother, Jose who uh 1122 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 3: excuse me, was stop by Terrence Carford a couple years back. 1123 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 3: They don't fool around in the Benavidez family. So I 1124 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 3: hope we build that. Hey, there's nothing else going on 1125 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 3: in sports this weekend. I'll be checking out the Caleb 1126 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 3: Bull to find out what's going on. 1127 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: Liz. I'll say this one last thing, we covered it live. 1128 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 1: We did the showtime wayans for Benavidez's last fight where 1129 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: he lost his title on the scales. Dude, that was 1130 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: a damaging a moment for him, Like he became forgotten 1131 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: after that, and it really kind of surprised me. One 1132 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: sixty eight, you know, Plant was asked, who could you 1133 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: face next? If, in fact, Canelo has two fights in 1134 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: front of him and you want to stay busy, and 1135 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, people asked Him's like, you know, Benavidez is 1136 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: out there, blah blah blah. But like most of the 1137 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: people were like, oh, I'll just wait until September or 1138 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: maybe the charlows will come up, like the idea that 1139 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: like Benavetez is a figure that you got to tangle with, 1140 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: he represents this division blah blah blah, Like I know that, 1141 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, and then the real fans know Benavidez is 1142 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: an absolute handful when he's on but like losing your 1143 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: title on the scales and the performance was good, you know, 1144 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,479 Speaker 1: but Jesus man, he really suffered major, not damaged problem, 1145 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: but he just became invisible after it. 1146 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the problem is it's the second time he's 1147 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 3: lost the title without losing a the ring. The first 1148 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 3: time when he had that bad test for cocaine and 1149 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,359 Speaker 3: he had to kind of, you know, regulate where he's 1150 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 3: at in his life. He's young, he's big, he's aggressive 1151 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 3: in and out of the ring. Yeah, he's got to 1152 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,240 Speaker 3: come back with a big win, Luke, to get our attention. 1153 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 3: I think he's I saw a rumored that he's gonna 1154 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 3: be in there against Ronald Ellis coming up, which is 1155 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 3: a it's a good bout. It's a good bout. It's 1156 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 3: a tough bout, but yeah, I want to see him 1157 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 3: against me, but I want to see everybody against the best, Luke. 1158 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 3: I love that. Final quick note on Caleb Truax. I 1159 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 3: always have a soft spot for him because he is, 1160 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 3: you know, he's a guy who was at a certain 1161 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 3: level and then he made that leap and won the title, 1162 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 3: and he's very friendly on social media. I was call 1163 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 3: him boxing Twitter's own Caleb Truex because he's kind of 1164 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 3: like a regular dude. He's one of us, Luke. He 1165 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 3: has his own beer out there. There's a local brewery 1166 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 3: in Minnesota which has grown leaps and bounds since the 1167 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 3: two of them first started doing business called Loop Pulin 1168 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 3: and they make an eight count ipa which has a 1169 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 3: picture of him on the cover of the can. He 1170 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,359 Speaker 3: was like involved in the brewing process and all of that, 1171 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 3: And it's a good story that's blown up pretty big 1172 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 3: because although I don't have access to Lupolin on the Northeast, 1173 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 3: apparently across the Midwest it's you know, it's making some moves. 1174 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 3: So if you can check it for eight count ipa, 1175 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 3: you can support our guy, Caleb Truex. Lucas. 1176 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh, lastly, I've noticed you have a soft spot for grinders, 1177 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, those guys who just have 1178 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: these rough fights one after the other. Phone booth guys. 1179 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: You have a real you know that those are your people. 1180 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 3: Right, they are my people because those are hard scrabble 1181 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 3: people who represent the factory town image, Luke, And really 1182 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 3: maybe maybe they were tabbed for greatness all along, but 1183 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 3: they didn't realize it for a while. Luke because of 1184 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 3: the realities of their surroundings, but they still made it. 1185 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: I believe I don't. I believe in your talent. You 1186 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: know that. You don't got to convince me. 1187 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're trying to suffocate my talent often, Luca 1188 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 3: to do. 1189 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to suffocate your bad jokes, not your ability. 1190 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 3: No, I mean, look, look there's art flying out. Hey. 1191 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 3: Look I just took up painting. I just finished my 1192 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 3: first painting. I don't want to know. I don't know 1193 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 3: if I should show it on air. 1194 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: Fu Yeah, show it. I want to see that thing. 1195 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: Let me see. 1196 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 3: It was experiment it was very experimental. It was late 1197 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 3: at night. But you know, maybe next week I'll in Villa. 1198 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 1: No that you cannot bring that up and not show 1199 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: it to us. Let me see. 1200 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 3: Nah, No, you know, I don't want to get derided 1201 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 3: right in the point of my career where I'm I'm 1202 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 3: really letting my art speak for itself, Luke, okay, or 1203 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 3: give me it, give me some chance here. 1204 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: All right, But you got to show it eventually, don't 1205 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: be don't. 1206 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 3: You can show it next week. I guarantee you I'll 1207 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 3: show it next week. Luca's time for you want to 1208 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 3: see Luke at Matt It's time for your favorite segment 1209 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 3: and it is called dead Wrong. 1210 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: Listen, Listen. All I ask is, if you're gonna say 1211 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, please be right. It's a very it's a 1212 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a very fair standard, you know 1213 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. Don't say wrong shit. 1214 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: Well, look, some people are I think are right in 1215 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 3: saying Luke, just take the damn l already or went 1216 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 3: through it. 1217 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring up this fucking resilting again or should 1218 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: we leave it alone? 1219 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 3: Stop trying to back door with your legal east and 1220 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 3: you're William and Mary Sweatshirt and try to you know, know, Luke, 1221 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 3: take the damn out. And that's point of this segment. 1222 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 3: By the way, when there's a L, we don't take 1223 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 3: ourselves so seriously, Luke that you know, we say a 1224 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: lot of shit into the ethos and sometimes it's wrong. Okay, Luke, 1225 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 3: All right, here we go with the first one. Uh 1226 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 3: this surrounds Eddie Alvarez. Here's a message from one of 1227 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 3: our viewers, b c FYI. Eddie Alvarez lost his one 1228 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 3: championship debut to Timothy Nasty can right not so you 1229 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 3: can via TKO but he did beat Edward Furlong of 1230 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 3: Terminator fame via rare naked choke in his last one match. 1231 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 3: I think you may have confused the two when discussing 1232 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 3: Mighty Mouse's one Championship title fight. So I had the 1233 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 3: the win and the loss flipped. According to this viewer, Luke, 1234 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 3: I don't really watch. 1235 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: So much it he beat Edward Foleyang, Who's I think 1236 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: Filipino out of Team Lecai. Second of all, what happened 1237 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: to Edward Furlong? Do that boy had one role, the 1238 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: role of a lifetime in T two and then nothing, Luke? 1239 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 3: Could you back me up on this? And I was 1240 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 3: talking my kids and I were flipping through the movie 1241 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 3: potentials because we watch con Air. I told you we're 1242 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 3: ready for the next action movie step up, and Terminator 1243 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 3: two popped up and I'm like, well, hold on, we 1244 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 3: should probably watch T one first. We have to find it. 1245 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 3: And I was trying to explain to them. When T 1246 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 3: two launched, I was in eighth grade, went with my 1247 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 3: dad on a Saturday afternoon. Look that thing was like 1248 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 3: so damn ahead of its time as an explosive, next 1249 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 3: level futuristic almost action movie with some of the greatest 1250 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 3: cinematography and soundtrack, and like I mean, it was just 1251 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 3: in your damn face. Looke tell the people how instrumental 1252 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 3: that movie was to your youth. 1253 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: Terminator The original Terminator was big, but not, you know, 1254 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: not game changing per se. It was it was don't 1255 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,959 Speaker 1: get me wrong. Was it Hollywood blockbuster, Schwarzenegger at his peak, 1256 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It was all those things. But T 1257 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: two was the game changer. T two was the one 1258 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: where whoever had heard and watched Terminator one, it was 1259 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: like the Griffin bonner where then you told everyone else 1260 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: around you did you fucking see this movie? And it 1261 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: got to mothers and grandmothers and cousins and friends and 1262 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: co workers. That was the run on the water cooler 1263 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: everyone talked about seeing. And dude, I'll even say, to 1264 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: this day, obviously the graphics from T two are they 1265 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: as good as the modern graphics know, but I will 1266 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: say even now they that movie holds up. You watch 1267 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Terminator two now, it still holds up. It's still interesting, 1268 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: it's still good. That is an all time one of 1269 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the best action movies ever made in any language at 1270 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: any point, and. 1271 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 3: Guns N' roses off the Uzer Illusion soundtrack Getting You 1272 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 3: could be Mine on there. I mean it was just 1273 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 3: it was awesome. 1274 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Luca and Linda Hamilton like she was in fucking Linda 1275 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Hamilton was kind of like a bit of a delicate 1276 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: flower ish. You know, she hadn't taken the red Pill 1277 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: and Terminator one until obviously everything went awry a Terminator two. Dude, 1278 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,919 Speaker 1: You see the fucking shape Linda Hamilton was in. Yeah, 1279 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: she totally owned that role. There could never be another 1280 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: person to play that role except her. She's unbelievable good things. 1281 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 3: She's not one of our coworkers, Luke, so we can 1282 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 3: so yeah, I'll take the l on Eddie Alvarez here 1283 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 3: on the uh on the misappropriation of his characters, but 1284 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 3: do encourage you just the same to check out the 1285 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,479 Speaker 3: interview in which he says, look, uh, he sent Michael 1286 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Chandler to hell, Luke. He revealed in that interview that 1287 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 3: before Chandler signed with the UFC, Eddie called Chandler and said, look, 1288 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 3: let's do that trilogy, bro, And he says, uh, Eddie 1289 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 3: didn't want nothing to do with it. I mean, well, 1290 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 3: he had bigger fish to fry in the moment. Algorithm sorry. 1291 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand Eddie's point and like a third 1292 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: fight would have been would have been cool. But you know, 1293 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: if you're if you're if you're Michael Chandler, you know 1294 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: I understand pulling that trick on the UFC. So you know, 1295 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: just something we'll just never get I guess all right, Look, your. 1296 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 3: Boy BC was dead wrong again when talking about Monte 1297 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 3: Cristo sandwiches. You asked me what was in them, and 1298 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: in the moment I was struggling, I mentioned rye bread. 1299 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 3: Uh here's a message from our viewer. BC is a 1300 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 3: Comby's hot dog eating philistine, so I'm not particularly surprised 1301 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 3: he doesn't know what a Monte Cristo is. But that 1302 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 3: shit is one hundred percent not made with rye bread. 1303 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 3: It's it's a ham and Swiss cheese sandwich dipped an 1304 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 3: egg and cooked like French toast. If you make it 1305 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 3: with rye bread, you are a domestic terrorist and should 1306 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 3: be flogged with MK mugs. I don't know who sent 1307 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 3: that message in, but that's hilarious, Luke. I've eaten plenty 1308 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 3: of money crystals in my life. What sandwich am I 1309 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 3: confusing it with the one with the rye bread. It's 1310 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 3: kind of like it, like the. 1311 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: One with like the corn beef and like a Thousand 1312 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Island dressing. 1313 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ruben Okay, sorry, sorry to Jay in his tribe. 1314 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 3: The Ruben is what I was talking about. I love 1315 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 3: the elements of the ruben. I hate the rye bread. 1316 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 3: Monte Cristo sandwich is, on the other hand, do kick 1317 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 3: a lot of as. 1318 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Lit can I tell you. I don't know if I've 1319 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: ever had a monte Cristo. I don't think I have, 1320 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: but I don't eat ham, so I don't know if 1321 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: I'll ever have one. 1322 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 3: Would you ever do? What's that Disney cartoon where each 1323 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 3: dog had an end of the spaghetti. I would like 1324 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 3: to be on the other end of your MONTI Crystal, 1325 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 3: well meet, Well, we won't meet in the middle. 1326 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: That's kind of lady in the tramp. 1327 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go, There we go. Okay, just to 1328 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 3: have you experience it, Luke, Okay, maybe that was weird 1329 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 3: and awkward. 1330 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: Well that was I mean, I'm going to report you 1331 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: to HR for that one. 1332 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 3: But all right, all right, let's move on for more 1333 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 3: l's here. Apparently Michael Chandler knocked out Connor McGregor according 1334 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 3: to BC on have you seen this shit? On Monday 1335 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 3: emailed me about this. 1336 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember you saying that either do I. 1337 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 3: But obviously I was referring to UFC two fifty seven 1338 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 3: when Michael Chandler made his UFC debut and knocked out 1339 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Dan Hooker. I probably mentioned McGregor because all them lightweights 1340 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 3: were filling my brain at the ball me, Luke, Okay, 1341 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 3: I'll take the damn L. 1342 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Okay. That might have been more a misspeaking than an L. 1343 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: But all right, you know, I appreciate your spirit of accepting. 1344 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 3: Well, you know, my thing is I'm gonna believe the viewer, 1345 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 3: because Luke, we're nowhere without these viewers. I know you 1346 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 3: want to you know, you want to live and die 1347 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 3: over not saying Ronaldo even though there's video proof of it. 1348 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: But there's not, there's not. 1349 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 3: But okay, look, do you want to do you want 1350 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 3: to have a retort on that? Do you want to 1351 01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: speak to the people? 1352 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, here's this is one of those 1353 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: things where if you if you even bring it up, 1354 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: you automatically just take the L by default. So it's like, 1355 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: all right, people are gonna. 1356 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 3: Be with gaming the video that we ran on Wednesdays. 1357 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Face you ask me before you asked me for retort me, 1358 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: I give it very quickly, very quickly, five hundred bucks 1359 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: to the person who can find me before that video 1360 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 1: ever calling Christiano Ronaldo anywhere an audio form Ronaldo five 1361 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. I'll PayPal you overnight. 1362 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 3: Now, don't that's not what they were talking about, brother, 1363 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 3: Let me. 1364 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: See, that's exactly what they were talking about. I'll explain 1365 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: it to you if you let me retort, which you 1366 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: offer to do very Simply find any moment before that 1367 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: video where I was just reading the Instagram shit where 1368 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: I do that. There has never been a point where 1369 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was Portuguese, and there's never been a 1370 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: point where I ever called him Ronaldo, other than to note, BC, 1371 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: do you know what they call Randy Catur in Brazil? 1372 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: That this is true, Handy Catur. They call him fucking 1373 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 1: handy Catur. That is a real thing that they have. 1374 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: I've heard them actually do it. So yeah, it's not 1375 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: me calling them that. But if I say they call 1376 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Randy Gator handicator in Brazil, am I calling him handy 1377 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: gattor No, I'm acknowledging in a different country. That's what 1378 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: they say. Do you know the Germans don't call themselves 1379 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: German or you know, use that word at all to 1380 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: describe themselves. If I articulate that, am I calling them 1381 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: something different? Or am I acknowledging that's what a different 1382 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: language does. If you go back and listen, if you 1383 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: if you want to be interested in good faith interpretations 1384 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: and actual literalism of things, I note that's what they 1385 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: say in Brazil, not what I say here or any 1386 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 1: other place. This is easy if you have listening comprehension skills. 1387 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 1: But if you want to force an l where one 1388 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: doesn't exist, you can try five hundred bucks. 1389 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 3: Person much sober like intelligent reaction to this, you've just 1390 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 3: presented yourself for the first time on this topic as 1391 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 3: maybe right. Maybe maybe it was what's that guy's name. 1392 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Who sent you to hell on Wednesday, Apple Sauce McGee 1393 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 1: fuck face. 1394 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, Yeah, I thought he was brilliant in his execution. 1395 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 3: But maybe you maybe you were right. 1396 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: All I did say it. I did say it in 1397 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: the sense of this is what they say in Brazil. 1398 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 1: But dude, I've literally never done it in my life. 1399 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Hand to got on my mother's grave. Look at me. 1400 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you right now. All right, let's not 1401 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: in my mother's grave. I've literally never five hundred bucks. 1402 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: Five hundred bucks is the person who can find it? 1403 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: All right? 1404 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 3: Much love to missus, Thomas. We don't have to go 1405 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 3: there on this one. 1406 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Luke. 1407 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 3: You did take an l though. In eight days ago 1408 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 3: when you and I did the Connor McGregor resume review 1409 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 3: and I saw it threw out there. Hey, wasn't that 1410 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 3: crazy McGregor aldough promotional tour ahead of UFC one eighty 1411 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 3: nine when he ended up fighting Mendes. You thought maybe 1412 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,959 Speaker 3: it was after here's the message from our fan, Luke 1413 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 3: was wrong about the Connor Aldo press tour leading into 1414 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 3: UFC one eighty nine. That was the eight cities, five 1415 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 3: countries in twelve days mania in preparation for that fight. Unfortunately, 1416 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 3: although got injured. We all know what happened with Mendes. 1417 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 3: There was another smaller tour for their actual fight ahead 1418 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 3: of UFC one ninety four. Luke, you're gonna take that L. 1419 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: I'll take the LT. You know what, I totally forgot 1420 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: about that. I will God no wonder that was that. 1421 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: That's why it was so devastating when Mendes had to 1422 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: fill in on last minute notice because they put all that, 1423 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll take the L I did. I 1424 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: completely forgot totally. 1425 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 3: I think I think I took your recommendation that I 1426 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 3: was wrong and ran with it. Yes, So I think 1427 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 3: all of that stuff happened in front of one eighty nine, 1428 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 3: stealing the belt, doing the Favella's bit, and I think 1429 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 3: that's what fueled in hindsight, Connor saying, you know, if 1430 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 3: Aldough comes back at one ninety four, if he shows 1431 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 3: up to fight. 1432 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Because yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's right. You're right, 1433 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: you're right, I'll take the L. I fucked that up, 1434 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: very nice, very nice. 1435 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 3: All right. So also, Luke, they're coming at you again. 1436 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 3: Look got Tyron Woodley's losses in the wrong order the 1437 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 3: other day at MK he lost to Gilbert. Come on, 1438 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 3: and then. 1439 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: You think you think I didn't know that shit? I mean, 1440 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: all right, not the. 1441 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 3: Other way around. 1442 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Like Luke stated, I mean, does that really an L 1443 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: that I'm reading them not in consecutive order, but that 1444 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm stating that they existed? Did I say that those 1445 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: were in consecutive order? That's the only way, those would 1446 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: be wrong if I said he lost in this order. 1447 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I just was listening the ones that came to mind. 1448 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,959 Speaker 1: They don't want to be see. Is it not true 1449 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 1: that like doing this job sometimes it's like hard to 1450 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: recall information and sometimes you'll do it with a pocket 1451 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: here and a pocket there, and then you have to 1452 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: kind of trace the steps back in your mind. And 1453 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 1: it does happen, It. 1454 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 3: Really does, Luke. I mean, look, as we learned in 1455 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 3: the Risen Debacle, everything you say on this show can 1456 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 3: and will be used against. 1457 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: You, all right, in the spirit of in the spirit 1458 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: of the UH. I think it's a bullshit one, but 1459 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it all right. 1460 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 3: We got one more, Luke, and it's all about bo 1461 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 3: Sue balls from have you seen this shit? On Monday? 1462 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 3: With that out of the way, I write you, says 1463 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 3: this viewer to contribute with your to your dead wrong segment. 1464 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 3: In the UFC two fifty seven Instant Reaction pod, you 1465 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 3: mentioned someone having a bosue ball turned upside down. You 1466 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 3: can't turn a bosue ball upside down. Bosu is an 1467 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 3: acronym for both sides up or both sides utilized. Look 1468 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 3: what the hell is a bosue ball. 1469 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Why what we do a plastic it's a plastic tray, 1470 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,720 Speaker 1: so to speak, in a circle, and then half of 1471 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: a like au those big giant balls you can sit on. Right, 1472 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: So it's sort of like a half inflated ball with 1473 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 1: a plastic tray. Did not know bosou stood for that? 1474 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: This is death of all the l's I'm gonna take 1475 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 1: this week. This is the most unambiguous. This is straight 1476 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: up l He is so right. Did not know this? Now? 1477 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: I uh. The reason why I said it was upside 1478 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: down was because if you've got just a plastic side, 1479 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: then the balloon on one other. If you flip it 1480 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 1: on just a plastic side, it's sturdy to the ground. Right, 1481 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 1: It's like a surface touching another surface. If you flip 1482 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: it over and you've got the ball side to it, 1483 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's not sturdy. But there's handles 1484 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: on both sides. For just that reason, I used to 1485 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 1: do push ups off bosue balls with the ball side 1486 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: to the ground, or you could put the flat side 1487 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 1: and you can do all kinds of ab exercises and 1488 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: core exercises. He's right, they're not the same side. It's 1489 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: not equivalent on either side, but there is no such 1490 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 1: thing as upside down. Didn't know BOSU stood for that. 1491 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: He's correct, That's the l I have to take. 1492 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 3: You know, what was most uncomfortable as a teenager in 1493 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 3: a gym where I didn't belong. I'm wearing gloves. I 1494 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 3: don't want to be there. Is again, when that stereotypical 1495 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 3: blow hard guy who screams and wears short shorts and 1496 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 3: that large tank top, and when he would call me 1497 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 3: over to spot him when he's putting up like four 1498 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 3: seventy five and I've got arms half the size of 1499 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 3: this luke. Is the fact that my bosu balls would 1500 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 3: be so close to his face during this transaction. Look, 1501 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to be there at all. 1502 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I normally don't do that on a They've they've 1503 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: changed the way that the modern bench. If you get 1504 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: like a really nice bench rack, you don't have to 1505 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: deal with it as much. But this is why it's like, dude, 1506 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a spotter on like incline bench or 1507 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know something something like that where 1508 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna do like lateral raises or the 1509 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: guy gets behind you, you know, and like the scene 1510 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: from Ghost. You know you're dick to butt. He's like 1511 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: lifting your hands up to the side. You know, those 1512 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 1: are those are times when you can just maybe just 1513 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: do less weight. 1514 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 3: You know this this feels too much like jail. I 1515 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 3: didn't order the toss salad, you know what I mean. Look, 1516 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 3: I don't I'm not here for that, all right. 1517 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: I feel you, player, I mean yeah, okay. 1518 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 3: Look, there's only time left for one more thing on Friday. 1519 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 3: And it's a segment that we do when we can, 1520 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 3: and it is called tip to tip or just the 1521 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 3: tip or something evolving the tip. 1522 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: I literally never know what this segment is called. 1523 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 3: So the whole point, if you're new to this area, 1524 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 3: is look, we want to shout something out. We want 1525 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 3: to give a recommendation, we want to give advice. We 1526 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,719 Speaker 3: want to give a tip of the cap to someone 1527 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 3: or something out there. Luke, can you go first here? 1528 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Yes. I saw two movies during the last week as 1529 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:51,799 Speaker 1: I tried to recover from the last week of bodily 1530 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: destruction that BC and I undertook for utterly regrettable reasons. 1531 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: One was really good and one not really good. One 1532 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: was good and one was indescribably bad. So you could 1533 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: put up both of the names on the screen if 1534 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 1: you want, because I'll just go piece by piece here. Okay, 1535 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 1: so I'll go in order. Let's go with the one 1536 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 1: that was really bad, Psycho Gorman. Now I bring this 1537 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: up only because you know, there's not a lot of 1538 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 1: movies that are coming out every week, and you might 1539 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 1: be looking for something new to stream. And I was 1540 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: on Rotten Tomatoes, and you know their ratings have just 1541 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: become utterly unreliable. But this is the key. It had 1542 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 1: good ratings, especially good ratings from critics, and even decent 1543 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: ratings from fans. So I was like, okay, all right, 1544 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot. It was a B movie, 1545 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, not a B movie, but like an independent movie. 1546 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: It is the worst fucking movie I have ever seen 1547 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: in my life, to the point where if I ever 1548 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,680 Speaker 1: see the director in person, I promised to go to 1549 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: jail for fucking him up, you know, with brass knuckles 1550 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: on my fingers. When when we make contact, this guy 1551 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve liberty or democracy. Send him to North Korea 1552 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 1: and never let us speak of him again. I could 1553 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: not fucking believe the reviews on this, and I thought 1554 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, you know what it's gonna be 1555 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 1: like Clownpenis dot Fart says, I love Psycho Gorman. And 1556 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 1: then I went and looked it was like Variety Magazine, 1557 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Austin Chronicle. And they try to tell you that it's 1558 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: satire of existing film genres. Know the fuck it is not. 1559 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: It is a failed satire of existing genres. There's no comedy, 1560 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: even though they try. Not an actor you've ever heard of. 1561 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: And I don't mind the fact that it had a 1562 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: cheap budget that tried to play with that. In fact, 1563 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: I thought they did a pretty good job with most 1564 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: of it. I'm warning you they might pitch this to 1565 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: you as like a movie that's like, ooh, this is 1566 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: irreverent and fun. It's not irreverent. It's not fun. It's 1567 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: a giant waste of money. Don't ever see Psycho Gorman. 1568 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 1: And to anyone who made that movie, please, like normal 1569 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: in Garfield, get in a box and ship yourself to 1570 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi. Please. The one that was actually a little 1571 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: bit better, actually a lot better, was Promising Young Woman BC. 1572 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Now this one is a little there are parts of 1573 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,560 Speaker 1: it you're like, you're kind of rolling your eyes a 1574 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 1: little bit, but I'll say this, you gotta watch it 1575 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 1: till the end, and the way they make the movie 1576 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 1: twist by the time it's over, definitely worth your time. Now, 1577 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: if you buy it now, it's twenty bucks. I don't 1578 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: know that I would pay twenty bucks to go watch this, 1579 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: but once it goes on sale on streaming, where it's 1580 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 1: now just a few bucks to watch it, you're looking 1581 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: to kill a couple of hours and it's got a 1582 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 1: decent ending, promising young woman. Give it a shot. 1583 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 3: Well done, Luke. I regrettably have a second tip where 1584 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,599 Speaker 3: I say, the first ten minutes of your live chat 1585 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 3: this week, Luke, was a freaking debacle. Can you get 1586 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 3: a sound engineer on that please? 1587 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, you know I am the sound engineer. But 1588 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: that's why there's always a debacle, because I'm not a 1589 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 1: sound engineer. I'm just trying to play. I'm like the 1590 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm the Jake Paul of sound engineers. When I actually 1591 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 1: have to be a sound engineer, you see what happens. 1592 01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 3: All right, It sounded like instrumental, you know, seventies raw there. 1593 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 3: It sounded really weird. Speaking of that, Luke, we all 1594 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 3: know I am going deep, right, now during this quarantine 1595 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 3: on a seventies vinyl record exploration of a decade I 1596 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 3: thought was largely forgotten besides the big hitters, Stones, Zeppelin 1597 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,600 Speaker 3: all that. But now I'm going so deep, Luke, and 1598 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 3: I'm going places that I never thought I would be. 1599 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 3: Now stay with me here. I got little tastes of 1600 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 3: jazz rock through Steely Dan, through some Chicago albums, through 1601 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 3: Jeff Beck's instrumental run in the late seventies, through even 1602 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 3: Joni Mitchell, and it really in Joni Mitchell's jazz run 1603 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,799 Speaker 3: the Hegira album on, through some of the weirder stuff, 1604 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 3: it really opened my eyes to the idea of fusion. Luke, 1605 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 3: I knew I needed to really go next level. I'm 1606 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 3: not ready yet for the full leap I thought into 1607 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 3: actual jazz, but I discovered the jazz fusion band that 1608 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,760 Speaker 3: is the bridge for that. And a tip of the 1609 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 3: cap not only to Joni Mitchell for employing many members 1610 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 3: of these bands during some of her jazz albums, but 1611 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 3: for one Canadian journalist, yes yes, Aaron Bronstetter, for a 1612 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 3: vinyl connoisseur himself in an expert on this, for pointing 1613 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,839 Speaker 3: me out to a band that doesn't get any love anymore. 1614 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,719 Speaker 3: Luke called weather Report. I specifically picked up Black Market, 1615 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 3: which has a regrettable cover based on race relations and 1616 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 3: heavy weather. Uh Luke, this is some of the most ambitious, 1617 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 3: incredible jamming jazz rock fusion shit you ever imagined. I 1618 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 3: got there because of Jocko Pastorius, the greatest bass player 1619 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 3: of all time, the fretless Wonder, the artist himself who 1620 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 3: did work with Joni Mitchell. But what I discovered was, 1621 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,759 Speaker 3: you know Wayne Shorter on saxophone, Joe's Winnel on the keys, 1622 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:52,879 Speaker 3: and this is just a bunch of elitist, genius artist 1623 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 3: instrumentalists who are constantly trying to one up each other 1624 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 3: within each song with the back and forth play. Look, 1625 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm not sophisticated enough in these categories to really give 1626 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 3: you a full understanding of why this is awesome. But 1627 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 3: if you're a open minded rock guy, you like a 1628 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 3: little fusion, you like a little jazz rock, and you're 1629 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 3: looking for a bridge to potentially get you into actual jazz. 1630 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 3: I'm in the middle of that transaction now, and weather 1631 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,639 Speaker 3: Report is banging you. Put that shit on, It drives 1632 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 3: you up on your feet, and it's really taking me 1633 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 3: Luke into deeper crevices of my own understanding, into my 1634 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 3: own brain, taking these solo journeys into my Luke again. 1635 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,679 Speaker 3: I don't have the words to tell you what I'm feeling, 1636 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 3: but uh, I never knew this band existed. I never 1637 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,759 Speaker 3: knew this kind of music was out there. They lied 1638 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,639 Speaker 3: to us on classic rock radio throughout our lives about 1639 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 3: what was supposedly good and not. This ain't no cheesy 1640 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,600 Speaker 3: yacht rock. I'm trying to serve you up. If you 1641 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 3: got any sort of inclination into this era area of music, 1642 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 3: Weather Report will blow your asshole in. 1643 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 1: Boring. Yeah. I don't care for a funk about that shit. 1644 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 1: Steely Dan has a song called My Old School where 1645 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: they reference William and Mary, but it turns out it 1646 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 1: may not even actually be about William and Mary, and 1647 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,800 Speaker 1: maybe about Bard College where the two donks a met. 1648 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 1: So I don't even know why they would mention it, 1649 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: but there you go. 1650 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,760 Speaker 3: Fuck William and Mary. Fuck Thomas Jefferson. 1651 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 1: All right, fuck TJ. He ain't what do you do 1652 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,920 Speaker 1: own slaves? You don't know shit. 1653 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 3: Didn't you tell me you went to the second oldest 1654 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 3: college in the history of this country I did. 1655 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: It is the second oldest. 1656 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,759 Speaker 3: Well, I went to the third oldest, Nogtek Valley Community 1657 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 3: Technical College, Luke. 1658 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: All right, no, buddy, you went to the oldest, the 1659 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 1: School of Hard Knocks. Don't you love that? On Facebook? 1660 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 1: I'll see that some dude on Facebook. Inevitably, you know, 1661 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 1: some donk who is mired in QAnon and wears a 1662 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: bandana unironically, And every time it says like education so 1663 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,879 Speaker 1: and so high school and then college School of Hard Knocks, 1664 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so is that your way of saying, 1665 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: like what exactly? 1666 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 3: It's my way of saying that I was I was 1667 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 3: raised by factories. 1668 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 1: Luke. You're like, you know there was they got the 1669 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 1: old mythology wrong. It was Romulus and Remus and and BC. 1670 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,639 Speaker 1: Those are the three all drinker from the Wolf's Titties, 1671 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 1: just like you. 1672 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,679 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. That's our show for the week. 1673 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: I know what I'm referencing. 1674 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 3: You know, I've been there a little bit, Luke. My 1675 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 3: brain doesn't work as fast as you used to. Okay, Luke, 1676 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 3: can you just let me off the hook here? Can 1677 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 3: you not? Can you? You know I'm going I'm just 1678 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 3: going through a lot, right now with this attempt to 1679 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 3: not be fat. Okay, thank you, thank you, Luke. That's 1680 01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,759 Speaker 3: our show for the week. Thank you for joining me. Please, 1681 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,880 Speaker 3: a lot of great stuff out there. Showtime dot Com 1682 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 3: get your thirty days free. I don't even need you 1683 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,640 Speaker 3: to pound sand at the end because I kind of 1684 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 3: believe you're going to be a subscriber because of the 1685 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 3: great stuff going on there. You can wear this fantastic 1686 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 3: merch on store dot show dot com either the All 1687 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 3: the Smoke, Showtime Basketball, Morning Combat, support all of our 1688 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 3: great brands there. Tell them BC set you you know, 1689 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not sure where that'll get you, but 1690 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 3: tell them that just the same, Luke Thomas is going 1691 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 3: to have a nice weekend off. Luke is the storm 1692 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 3: coming though? So to speak? From Big Fights on the Horizon. 1693 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at the UFC's calendar. They are 1694 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 1: gonna get busy starting next week. I gotta say, I'm 1695 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 1: waiting for Bellator to get going. It's like it's gonna 1696 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 1: be February before they've had anything. So I guess I 1697 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,759 Speaker 1: don't even know. Do we know when their first schedule 1698 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: show is? 1699 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,559 Speaker 3: I don't think so. And I think that's the same 1700 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 3: with Showtime Boxing. We know some kind of you know 1701 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 3: that you're hearing all the reports, you're seeing all the things. 1702 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 3: Browner's got a new opponent, there's some big dates coming. 1703 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 3: I want to be I want to hear that shit. 1704 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's do that. 1705 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 1: Yeahs drawn Ennison's next fight coming up, Boots, good way 1706 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 1: to see that. 1707 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 3: You hear those rumors? Are the opponents Serge Lippinett's That 1708 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 3: is a test and a half. That's like, why don't 1709 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,840 Speaker 3: you come in my kitchen? Okay, it's called hell, let's 1710 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 3: let's let's let's find out all give. 1711 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 1: You that where a fire I'm in. We live in 1712 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:57,719 Speaker 1: the fire. 1713 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 3: Look are you a fan of Teddy Outlass? Is a 1714 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 3: shameless crossover directly into MMA content. 1715 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, as a guy who's trying to get 1716 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: into boxing, am I really in a position to tell 1717 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Teddy Outlas what he can and can't do? 1718 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,200 Speaker 3: That's a fair point. You know, a guy trying to 1719 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 3: get into jazz? Who am I to tell you what? 1720 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 3: To listen to? You? 1721 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, listen, anybody. I always say this. 1722 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 1: People come to MMA or boxing or combat sports at 1723 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 1: different times in their life when they're ready. He appears 1724 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 1: to be quite ready for it, you know. Is there 1725 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 1: is there some kind of careerist element to it? Maybe, 1726 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 1: But if he produces quality work. I've not seen anything recently. 1727 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 1: But if he produces quality work, then who gives a damn? 1728 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia got a Gatorade deal, So shout out to that, Luke. Okay, 1729 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 3: let's got that like. 1730 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,560 Speaker 1: The GSP deal where it was only in Canada. You 1731 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:47,799 Speaker 1: didn't see shit down here. 1732 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:54,760 Speaker 3: All right, I guess we're just gonna keep haying. Look, 1733 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 3: the documentary, the second documentary of a documentary two point 1734 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 3: zero is in the works now. I don't have an 1735 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,600 Speaker 3: active release date. I'll have to follow that up. But 1736 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 3: good god, Luke, there was a lot of drama that week. 1737 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 3: Let's see how much they they how much? Let's see 1738 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,680 Speaker 3: the size of their balls? Right, how much do you 1739 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 3: want to capture and put out into the world. Because 1740 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 3: we certainly gave. We gave, well, I gave. I gave 1741 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:14,880 Speaker 3: a lot, Luke. 1742 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you gave more than I did. That is true. 1743 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: This is more your project than it is mine. I 1744 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 1: sort of go along with it. But this is definitely 1745 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 1: like all this stuff about, like here's my warmed overtakes 1746 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: on Combat Sports. That's not really art. But this is 1747 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: a little bit closer to that, so we'll see how 1748 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 1: it goes. 1749 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 3: You mean just being yourself with a camera on you. 1750 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not just being yourself. I mean you 1751 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,760 Speaker 1: were acting. You were setting up scenarios, shooting all kinds 1752 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,479 Speaker 1: of b roll. That's not being yourself. That's that's reality TV, 1753 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 1: which we know is fake. 1754 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 3: You know, no, they said show up at this time 1755 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,760 Speaker 3: and just art. 1756 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't you know you'd be in phony 1757 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 1: for the purposes of a you know, a spinal tap documentary. 1758 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,719 Speaker 1: Question is is it art in the end? Probably? 1759 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,760 Speaker 3: All right, Okay, well we're going nowhere right now, Lucs, 1760 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,840 Speaker 3: why don't we get out of here for our great 1761 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 3: friends at Malka, Showtime and CBS Sports. There are your 1762 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 3: social hooks on the bottom. If you've heard something we 1763 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 3: said this week and you think it's dead wrong, or 1764 01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 3: you want to send us a great pick of you 1765 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 3: wearing an MK merch piece, or you creating a meme 1766 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 3: of dumb and dumber with our faces on it, please 1767 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 3: send it to Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Yeah. 1768 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Shout out to Minich and Gaff on the ones and 1769 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 3: TUESA today and may all of your gains do something else. 1770 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 3: We love you. We'll be back Monday. A lot of 1771 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,120 Speaker 3: great bonus content out there to catch up on our 1772 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 3: YouTube channel if you haven't, and I got two more words, 1773 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 3: Were you right? We out Yeah. 1774 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 1: On Super Bowl Sunday, CBS raises the hand of the 1775 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 1: champion while lifting the spirits of our frontline heroes. 1776 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,600 Speaker 3: The celebration starts at two Eastern with JB and the 1777 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 3: Guys getting you ready for the game. 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