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Speaker 1: It looks nothing like that. This was a Tuesday in

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Speaker 3: Late episode five oh seven, Chris Tomlin returns one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite people in Nashville. Is just the best of

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Speaker 3: a genuine affinity for Chris, and hopefully you can tell

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Speaker 3: during this interview at Chris Tomlin is his Instagram if

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Speaker 3: you want to follow him, and we do talk about everything,

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Speaker 3: including the music he's putting out or now has put out,

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Speaker 3: and even the oldest song ever written.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's the wildest part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like eighteen hundred years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Did you feel like my Bob Dylan reference.

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Speaker 3: Minimized it because he's talking about it, so you'll hear

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Speaker 3: a song that was written basically on a tablet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a good co and the Christian War

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, Bob Dylan wagon Will says.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, this song is eighteen hundred years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love Chris and his good Friday Nashville shows are

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Speaker 3: the best we went last year. He's got worship under

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Speaker 3: the Stars, which we talk about here. He is, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Chris Tomlin is tied with Taylor Swift

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Speaker 3: as the number two ranking of artists headlining Bridgestone. I

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Speaker 3: Tomlin's like one of the biggest touring artists in the world.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 3: It is wild because a lot of artists big in America,

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Speaker 3: not that big everywhere else. Chris Tomlin big in America,

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Speaker 3: big other places too, because the music, just Christian music

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Speaker 3: is for Christians everywhere. National man, Chris Tomlin. Here he returned.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to read the should read the princes, No,

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Speaker 3: I should read Okay, okay. Chris Tomlin returns, episode five

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Speaker 3: o seven. Chris, good to see you again, man, great

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Speaker 3: to see you. Last time I saw you, I was

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Speaker 3: sitting at Urban Market. Yeah, and I was like, you

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Speaker 2: We're like, oh my goodness, this is so dominating. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's the last I saw you there. And we went

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Speaker 3: to your Easter show last year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. That's I think that's our two

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Speaker 3: But social media is so weird though, because I feel like,

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Speaker 3: thinking about yesterday because my in laws we're talking about

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Speaker 2: Was I'm just letting you know. The selling point was,

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Speaker 2: I like it, bro. I can't wait to see which

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Speaker 1: And they gave zero because at that point they didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, but like it's amazing because but all would say

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Speaker 3: not really attached to any religion, right, because there are

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Speaker 3: And in that, you know, there's a pride theme.

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Speaker 3: This story specifically, and you talking about that just kind

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Speaker 3: That is, I try to not be Saw, like That's

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Speaker 3: not be Saw. David's David's an odd, remarkable, amazing story.

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Speaker 3: It's all of those, It's all of it. It's the

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't think too many people have

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Speaker 1: I think we look at these the especially a Bible characters,

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Speaker 3: So would you support my theory of since Jesus is

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Speaker 1: No, there's not a lot of people been named Judas

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Speaker 3: Exactly a couple of names that have died Judas ate off.

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Speaker 3: don't do anymore. Yes, Judas bonesy No, none, none of that.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Hubbard had asked me and a couple of songwriters

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Speaker 1: Hey, would you get wet to come out and we're

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Speaker 1: and Matt Jenkins said, you know, I've just been thinking

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Speaker 1: about this.

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Speaker 2: Line.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this verse no greater Love and

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Speaker 1: John fifteen he just said, he said, no greater love

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Speaker 1: than this, that a man laid down his life for

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Speaker 1: his friends.

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Speaker 2: This is in January. Okay.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm thinking, I just keep thinking about that verse,

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Speaker 1: there's no greater love than a man laid down his

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Speaker 1: life for his friends. And have you read Have you

444
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Speaker 1: never a song like that? It's like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: He said, what about that? So let's do it?

446
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Speaker 1: And so we wrote this song, no Greater Love, and

447
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Speaker 1: had this made this demo and it's really beautiful. I

448
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Speaker 1: think it's a powerful, powerful lyric and the idea of

449
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Speaker 1: trading the crown of Jesus, trading the kind of the

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Speaker 1: crown of glory for crown of thorns and just this

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Speaker 1: the sacrifice right. And a couple of weeks later, I

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Speaker 1: get approached with this movie do you guys, have you

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Speaker 1: have a song that could work with this? And I

454
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Speaker 1: was like Wow, I think this I've played on this song.

455
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Speaker 1: I was like, I got this demo. I haven't played

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Speaker 1: for anybody. I just wrote this song with some friends.

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Speaker 1: Let me play this demo, and.

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Speaker 2: They're like, this is the song, this is perfect for this.

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Speaker 1: So it was one of those moments where I feel

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Speaker 1: like things were lined up and I was like, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. So I got involved in not just a

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Speaker 1: song for the movie, but just just helping shape a.

463
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Speaker 2: Little bit more. That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like your world's are you're expanding? Yes, oh

465
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Speaker 3: so so fun. But the expansion is cool because it's

466
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Speaker 3: you're getting involved in things by doing what you already do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, but it's yes, other things. Yeah, it's

468
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Speaker 3: just really cool to see the growth of like what

469
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Speaker 3: you do and how it's incorporated into other projects.

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Speaker 2: And it was natural for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like a movie or a subject

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about. So it was really good,

473
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Speaker 1: Like this worked for me because it's like, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: I would love to share more about this and help

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Speaker 2: people see.

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Speaker 3: The Good Friday Show was so good last year. The

477
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Speaker 3: first time i'd been was it was awesome and uh,

478
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Speaker 3: but you know, frankly speaking, I was like, I want

479
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Speaker 3: to go. I think it's going to be good. I

480
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Speaker 3: like Chris, so I hope it's good because if not,

481
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be kind of awkward. If I'm like, I'm not going.

482
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Speaker 2: To tell you it's not, I wouldn't be like, man,

483
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Speaker 2: lackluster show. Huh.

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Speaker 3: But it's always weird to watch your because I don't

485
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Speaker 3: know you in that way, meaning I know what you do,

486
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Speaker 3: I know your music.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to a concert.

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Speaker 3: I don't go to anybody's concerts anymore because either I'm

489
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Speaker 3: on the road or I'm asleep.

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Speaker 2: That's it. And so we go. We were very excited

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Speaker 2: about it, and it was it was it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, yeah, and thank you You've done what I've found.

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Speaker 3: If I'm remembering this correct, I think you said that

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Speaker 3: night you were like, we're doing it again next year?

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Speaker 2: And then I don't do you put tickets on sale?

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Speaker 3: Right? Then this thing's sold out? So that back to

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Speaker 3: the Gills. Is it sold out again? This year?

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Speaker 2: Sold out? By I dinna bring my in laws though?

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Speaker 2: Do you have do you have a couple of extra

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Speaker 2: in case we decided to come?

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Speaker 3: I know some people so we can get you, we

502
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Speaker 3: can get you in.

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Speaker 2: Where's the fun thing?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Is that we sold This is the earliest it's ever

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Speaker 1: sold out this year and it's our ninth year. And

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Speaker 1: what I love about it is I didn't market there's

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Speaker 1: no marketing of anything. It just says good Friday in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: There's no names on the poster. No one even knows

510
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Speaker 1: who's going to play because I have it's surprises or

511
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Speaker 1: but in the past I have said, hey, it's me

512
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Speaker 1: and here's a few people, and then I have surprises.

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Speaker 1: This year, I didn't even put anybody on there, and

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Speaker 1: so that is really special to me that people just

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Speaker 1: want to come. They know it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: special night and they just want to be there. And

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Speaker 1: it's filled up and it's going to be I can

518
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Speaker 1: tell you it's going to be incredible.

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Speaker 2: It's all.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the night of nights. If you're if

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Speaker 1: you can, it's gonna be streamed. If you can't, if

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Speaker 1: you're can't get to Nashville or not there. But it's

523
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Speaker 1: it's a really beautiful night.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

525
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Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby cast.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question about your job. Yes,

527
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Speaker 3: we both love our jobs. Our jobs are a massive

528
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Speaker 3: part of who we are. Hopefully they're not all of

529
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Speaker 3: who we are, right But being so immersed in your work,

530
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Speaker 3: how do you keep it fresh, especially something that is

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Speaker 3: thousands of years old? How are you able to constantly

532
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: keep it fresh? In the music side of things, Sure,

533
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: anything creative, anything, because.

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Speaker 2: You can go hymns.

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Speaker 3: I mean we can walk through even Yeah, you know

536
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Speaker 3: the eighties and nineties and when I started to from Carmen,

537
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Speaker 3: I'd go to Carmen Show's or you do Jars.

538
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Speaker 2: Of Klay Newsboys, all of that.

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Speaker 3: Like, there has been Yeah Christian music and always yeah sonically,

540
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Speaker 3: but the message is the same. So how do you

541
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Speaker 3: make it different when it's kind of the message should

542
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Speaker 3: remain somewhat the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. I mean I think it's

544
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Speaker 1: just been something that I didn't first of all. And

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Speaker 1: I mean this, I never chose this. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it chose me. This is something that I feel called

547
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Speaker 1: to since I was a kid, and it's a it's

548
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: like a burning passion in me. I never thought it

549
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Speaker 1: would be music. I thought it would be something to

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Speaker 1: help people connect with God. I didn't know it would

551
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Speaker 1: be music, but so that this, this, this whatever, this

552
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Speaker 1: pool inside of me as is something that I didn't

553
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Speaker 1: I don't have to keep trying to keep going.

554
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Speaker 2: It's just it's always there, like angles on songs.

555
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Speaker 3: Because even in country music, which is always evolving and

556
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Speaker 3: changing and you have so much more to work with,

557
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 3: it feels like than the message. Even these guys here,

558
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: my friends are like, we keep writing the same song

559
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Speaker 3: over and over again. We just got to find a

560
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Speaker 3: slightly different way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing it on something that's been running over

563
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Speaker 1: for thousands of years, thousands of years, and I just

564
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Speaker 1: got which we can get into. I just got to

565
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Speaker 1: be a part of a song that's literally eighteen hundred

566
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Speaker 1: years old. It will be the earliest song ever ever

567
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Speaker 1: found in our faith that we're just we're about to

568
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: put out. It's a whole another, it's a documentary everything.

569
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Speaker 1: It's insane. We can get to that.

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Speaker 3: But this is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always trying to help people. Here's what I

572
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Speaker 2: try to do for me. It's help.

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Speaker 1: I've always said I want to help people see. If

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Speaker 1: I can help people see and then they'll sing the

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Speaker 1: more you see the more you sing. And what I

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Speaker 1: mean by that is, if for me and my songs,

577
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Speaker 1: if I can help give people a picture in their heart,

578
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Speaker 1: in their mind of God's goodness, his grace, his mercy,

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Speaker 1: his forgiveness, his glory, and write that in a way

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Speaker 1: that helps people see, then.

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Speaker 2: You can't help but praise. If I can help people.

582
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Speaker 1: See it, and then then they'll they'll praise God. And

583
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Speaker 1: for me, it's always been about I think the beautiful

584
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Speaker 1: thing is is it's always been about the song for me,

585
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Speaker 1: helping people connect with the song. It's not been about, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I've got to build my brain, and to me, I've

587
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Speaker 1: never tried to do that.

588
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Speaker 2: I've just tried to help. I've tried to hopefully just

589
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Speaker 2: the song is.

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Speaker 1: The song is what this is the star, The song

591
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Speaker 1: is what is connects with people and so it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's just pushing for the best songs possible. And you know,

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Speaker 1: just lately with this song Holy Forever, it's been another

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Speaker 1: moment like I've had these moments along with this.

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Speaker 2: It's almost almost.

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Speaker 1: Thirty years now, man, thirty years of touring and traveling,

597
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Speaker 1: and I've had these moments, these like these little marking

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Speaker 1: moments of like these songs that I can just look

599
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Speaker 1: and goues that was the kind of temple in that

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Speaker 1: in that moment and this and to be this far

601
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Speaker 1: along and have it and God give me a song

602
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Speaker 1: like Holy Forever that's really connected around the world again.

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Speaker 1: And it's been so it's been so special. And I

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Speaker 1: can tell you when when we were when it was

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Speaker 1: writing it, I was thinking, Okay, this feels like I

606
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Speaker 1: always I never feel this, but when I felt, I

607
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: sent a text to a friend of mine said, I

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Speaker 1: feel like this song is going to be really really

609
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Speaker 1: special in some way and I and it's been.

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Speaker 2: It's been, It's been incredible.

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Speaker 3: If I wrote songs like you, I would send every

612
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Speaker 3: song to a different friend so I could always say

613
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Speaker 3: I texted this song to a friend and knew it

614
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: was going to be special, so I wouldn't be lying.

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00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: I would just text different friends all one song. I'd

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Speaker 3: be like, this song, you have it down, it's on record.

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Speaker 3: I have said this song is a very special. Yeah, yeah, whenever,

618
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: because I want to hear the story about this song

619
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Speaker 3: that yeah. But to me, there wagon will which was

620
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Speaker 3: I could Bob Dylan semi finished demo that existed randomly

621
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Speaker 3: was never put out in the catch from old Crow

622
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: finishes writing it, yes, and then wagon will becomes massive.

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Speaker 2: They do it, then Darius does it.

624
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Speaker 3: So that's a version of of a story that I

625
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: think of when it's like an old song that isn't

626
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: totally done is then finished and then is I want.

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Speaker 2: Saya but just but relevant? Yes?

628
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: Right, brought back to life? Yes, So give me your

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Speaker 3: version of this that you're talking about. This song is

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Speaker 3: six hundred years.

631
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Speaker 2: Old, teen hundred years old. So I got to approach

632
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Speaker 2: this this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean this last fall with this guy from his

634
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Speaker 1: name is Ben Fielding and he's he's a songwriting friend.

635
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Speaker 1: He said, hey, I want to connect you with this

636
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: with this friend of mine. He's this he's a brainiac.

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00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: His name is John Dickinson and he's he's from Australia.

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00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: And he said, I've got this song. I've got I

639
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: want somebody to bring this song back. He goes, there

640
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: was this piece of scrap paper that was found in Egypt,

641
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: in this a town called oxy Reinos in Egypt, and

642
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: he said, it's in a vault in Oxford. Now it's

643
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: and it's just a little piece of scrap paper and

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00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: it's the earliest known him. I just known song with

645
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: musical notation, has musical notation on the notation makes no

646
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: sense to us. I don't even understand what it is.

647
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: But it's in that time and it's dated to the

648
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: third century, so the two hundreds, and this is and

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00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: it's a piece of a hymn and it's missing about

650
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: they said, missing about ten to twelve words, but it's

651
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Speaker 1: got like twenty five thirty words on it and they're

652
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Speaker 1: beautiful and they're powerful. He said, we've translated, and it's translated,

653
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: and here is the old melody. And I can't really

654
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting melody. But the like, would you

655
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: and Ben this other songwriter friend, would y'all be interested

656
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: in maybe bringing this to life again and bringing this

657
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: back and bringing this hymn? And he said, we're making

658
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: a document documentary because there's so many things about this

659
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: hymn they're special, and so we did, and so it

660
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: releases in a week from now and it's called the

661
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: First Hymn And the lyrics are beautiful.

662
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: I think this week, Mike, right, because it's daring this Yeah,

663
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: So it's out this Friday.

664
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, or is it right now. I think it'll be

665
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: out now.

666
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: Hey, it's out now, it's out now, it's out now. Okay,

667
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 3: it's out now.

668
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: So the first hymn, and when you hear this, here's

669
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: here's here's some I wish I could tell the backstory

670
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: for everybody who listens this, but's here's a song. But

671
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: here's why this is such a big deal is to

672
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: think about these words that are being sung are not

673
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: only I mean almost almost two thousand years old. This

674
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: would have been the grandkids of the disciples, right, This

675
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: had been that generation, and this is what they were singing.

676
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: This was a time when those who that were spreading

677
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: this message of Christianity would have been killed. They were

678
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: trying to wipe Christianity out. This is under incredible persecution.

679
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: So obviously it's anonymous. Did these guys who wrote this

680
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: or make it or were singing this, did they even

681
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: make it?

682
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: Who knows? But would they ever.

683
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Dream that wherever they were in their little cave singing

684
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: this song together or their little house together, that eighteen

685
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: hundred years from now, that this would be on a

686
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: thing called Spotify or Apple Music and people be starting

687
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: to sing this in the church, be starting to sing

688
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: this again. That's powerful to me. There's a couple of things.

689
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: There's the last line of the hymn, says and to

690
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: the you wrote or there's on there, that's on there,

691
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: he says, to the only Giver of all good gifts,

692
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in. And the guy the this historian

693
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: who said why this was so important is in that

694
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: day and time, pagan worship mostly to Zeus and other

695
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: gods would to to worship them. To go into any

696
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: kind of worship service, quote unquote, you would start with

697
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: to the Giver of all good gifts. And that's how

698
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: all the worship would start to the Giver of all

699
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: good gifts, he says. And for this, for this little

700
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: ragtag remnant of people to end their song with to

701
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: the only Giver of all good gifts was quite a

702
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: it was just such a pushback to society and culture.

703
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: And it's it's powerful and I think that it's a

704
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: it's just a powerful thing. And I and it's just

705
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: so to be a part of that. And like you said,

706
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: to what kind of music, what kind of songs have

707
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: that kind of history? You know, I was thinking about this,

708
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: just this long line of of of songs and music

709
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: that we just try to keep carrying on throughout the ages.

710
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Is so special.

711
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: One are the music notes look like because yeah, they

712
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: look like they look a little bit like they almost

713
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: look like Chinese characters or something like that.

714
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Not like the stick with the fat little moment, not

715
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: like that, not like that.

716
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: In the melody we have a you hear a girl

717
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: singing this week, we brought in this Egyptian girl just

718
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: to the hook. Is the is the ancient melody? And

719
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: ah I mean, I mean the word I'm in. But

720
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: they would sing it all together. Ah I mean, I mean, ah,

721
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and so we have this guitar line and

722
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: she's singing that over and so again. Most people hear

723
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: that will not have any context for it. But that

724
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: is that literally, that melody was eighteen hundred years ago.

725
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: When you finished that, did I don't know?

726
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: What does that feel like? Because you're just kind of

727
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: redid it? I mean I was.

728
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of trembling because I was like,

729
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: I just want to carry I want to carry this

730
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: well out. I mean, I want to get it right.

731
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: I want to do the very best I can. And

732
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: with such a gift, such a song that you know,

733
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: was meant a lot to those people and means a

734
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: lot today.

735
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I was. You just never know. I

736
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: never know. Songs are look, this is going to be.

737
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: This is it?

738
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: You know, but especially something like this. She's like, this

739
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: is the best I can do, and I hope, I

740
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: hope it does a justice.

741
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: So the first him you can listen to it, but

742
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: also the it's on Wonder the platform, Wonder if you

743
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: want to watch the documentary. What if we're going to

744
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: throw this at you? What if they find an older song?

745
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: And now this is now the second hymn?

746
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: Have you thought about that?

747
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: I definitely have, because all of a sudden I have,

748
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: And so I went back ten times. It's like, should

749
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: we really call this that person? Because obviously there's the psalms.

750
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: The songs are older than that, sure, and.

751
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: But this is the first ever, it is the first

752
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: song ever found with musical notation, and it's to find

753
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: they said, the chances of finding something would be who knows,

754
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: hundreds of years from now, and so then I I

755
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: won't have to deal with it something else, but they'll.

756
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Just be my luck.

757
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: Though they find another one like a week after we're

758
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: done it, and it's a week earlier. Yeah, and it's

759
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: like the real first him and I'm like, oh man,

760
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: this is from the fifties, yes, the year fifty. I

761
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: feel like there would be an immense pressure on you

762
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: to love Christmas, to love Christmas, not even for the

763
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 3: Jesus element, just you just need to like embrace Christmas.

764
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: And if you're not Chris Christmas, I mean your name

765
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: is Chris and Christmas. Tomlin, Yeah, I feel like there's

766
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: a pressure that you got to be mister Christmas just

767
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: around the house. No, not definitely, not around the house,

768
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: but like the biggest light displayed, like you gotta be.

769
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: Do you feel that pressure? Hilarious? Love?

770
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: I love how this goes. Where do we went from

771
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 3: here to Christmas?

772
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: Like that that quick?

773
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: Well, I just think when you're talking about things, I'm like,

774
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: you know, in my mind, I've got eight things one

775
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: at once, Like and We've had the discussion where I

776
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: think everybody X like like they have to be on

777
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: their p's and q's around you because.

778
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: You'll just literally call God and be like and tell

779
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: on them.

780
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: Like I told you that last time that people they

781
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: probably act in a way towards you where they can't

782
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: be themselves and I found myself the victim of that

783
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: because we're having a party and I told Caitlin, I

784
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: was like, hey, let's invite Chris.

785
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: But we were doing like Casino night. I was like,

786
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I wish gonnavite.

787
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: Chrismas you know, and then she goes, you're doing exactly

788
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: what you would. You said, I loved thank you for

789
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: your so yes, and so I'm okay. So yeah, Christmas.

790
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: I love Christmas.

791
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: I love it anyway, but yes I do. I'm not

792
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: mister Christmas, but yeah, I've I love it. I love

793
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: the music Christmas, I love I love everything about it,

794
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: Like you have.

795
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: To be the best present giver of all the nephew.

796
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: I would just think that that would be the pressure

797
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: I would put on myself because that's what you're out

798
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: constantly singing the word. Yeah, and what's more the word

799
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: than Christmas? And I'm on tour every Christmas. I do

800
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: a Christmas tour every Christmas. Yeah. Yeah, the gifts would

801
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: have to be a plus if I were known for Christmas.

802
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Yes.

803
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: Now I'm known for my vision, so that's a pretty

804
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: easy one. Yeah, because I can just be like I'm blind,

805
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: you know, so I don't really have anything that I

806
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: have to do. But when do you When do you

807
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: put up the Christmas tree at your house?

808
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: The Christmas tree is right after Thanksgiving? Okay, so that's normal. Yeah,

809
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: that's boring.

810
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: We should change that you should do like when you

811
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: text all your friends, this one is that you should do.

812
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: July fifth, and you're like, you're like it, you know,

813
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: follow me July fifth. So I feel like, guys, Christmas

814
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: every day.

815
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

816
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

817
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a really common thread between country

818
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: music and Christian music. I used the word, I'll use

819
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: the term very wide open Christian music. I feel it's

820
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: a very common threat. I think country music is very

821
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: much based and it's belief in God, and I think

822
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: that's why so many artists, yeah, are drawn to you.

823
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: And I think the project that you did with a

824
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: lot of the country artists, I would imagine those were

825
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: all pretty quick yess.

826
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really fun man, it was Yeah. It

827
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: was something that I wasn't even trying to do. I

828
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: think we talked about that, but I wasn't even trying

829
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: to do it. It just it was just happened through

830
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: just natural relationship and just a relationships started happening and

831
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: started we should we should smash up our genres.

832
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: It's all because it's come from this.

833
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: Obviously, country music came from the church, and you got

834
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: the rhymen, which is a church. You got the whole

835
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: thing comes out of the church. Rock and roll camp,

836
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: everything comes out of the church. You want to talk,

837
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: if you want to get really going as far as

838
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: art and everything like that, obviously that's where it all

839
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: came from. It goes its other way, but yeah, I mean, yeah,

840
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: it's so so close.

841
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: We went to Austria. My wife and I did never

842
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: been to Austria before, so we went to Austria and it.

843
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: Is amazing, right, growing up, didn't go anywhere, right, so

844
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: now it's like I'm just trying to go see stuff.

845
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: And we go into a church that was two thousand

846
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: years old whatever it was, I mean, it was almost there.

847
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: That's when I feel history, That's when I feel like

848
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: the gravity of existence. And I've been into a couple

849
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: of churches like that, but we went into one in

850
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: Austria that was like you like to fill your guts.

851
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: Moved around a little bit because of everything that has

852
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: happened underneath that roof. You ever go when you're traveling internationally,

853
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: do you ever go look at some of these really

854
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: old worship I'll just call them places a worship.

855
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me kind of tell you about one, please,

856
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: and it'll be you're like, well, duh, but no, I

857
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: was in Israel and I got to go to the

858
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: site of the cross. And now in Israel, if you've been,

859
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, I haven't,

860
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna know. They build churches over everything.

861
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: So it's not what you think in your mind, because

862
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: they've made the the church came, the Catholic Church came

863
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: and built just to memorialize it or church enshrine the place.

864
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: Built these churches over these places.

865
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: So you're going inside a church to see like where

866
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: the cross was or the tomb into tomb, and you're

867
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: one of these huge, huge.

868
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: Churches and they're ancient, ancient, ancient.

869
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Speaker 1: But at the side of the cross there was a

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Speaker 1: place they have the stone where they where they say

871
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: and that Jesus was laid when they took him off

872
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: the cross. This is the stone where Joseph would have

873
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: taken him off of arimathea, and they laid him down

874
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: to dress the body. And you're talking about this is

875
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: something I'll never forget because here's what I saw is

876
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I saw this was a normal day in the line

877
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: of people that were lined up, I mean hundreds of

878
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: people for hours. And I looked at our tour guide

879
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, is this suck this every day?

880
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: And he said, obviously not now for the wars things

881
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: like that. He goes, this was a few years ago.

882
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: He said, it's every day. And when it was every

883
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: kind of person, Bobby, it was like people, it was

884
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: like beautiful African dress, it was Asian, it was it,

885
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: it was poor, it was rich. It was like every

886
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: kind of person you can think of and look and

887
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: looks like lined up. And I watched and as everyone

888
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: approached that stone, and I watched these ladies just kneel

889
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: at that stone and just I mean, and and kiss

890
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: that stone. And I thought, wow, it just it was

891
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: a little picture of heaven for me. I was like, wow,

892
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: this is you know, sometimes we think heaven looks like

893
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: America or something like that. Maybe it's like it looks

894
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: nothing like that. This is this was the whole world.

895
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: This was a Tuesday in the world, every kind of

896
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: person's lined up, and He's like every day they line

897
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: people in this line just to stand there and just

898
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: to just to kiss the stone where Jesus was laid.

899
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: And it was one of the you're talking about everything

900
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: inside you moving. I just stood over to the side

901
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: and just watched and just watched and just watch people

902
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: in their active worship really just come and kneel there

903
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: and just thank God and just you could tell people

904
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: and they would just some people would pray. Some people

905
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: would just have a moment and just stop and think

906
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: and just pray. And you can tell their their their

907
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: gratitude and their heart. And I was like, man, what

908
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: a picture of what a beautiful picture of heaven. So

909
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: when I when I get to travel, I try to

910
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: go to these places and just so moved.

911
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: Worship has gone through. We talked about this a bit,

912
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: like stylistic changes over the past twenty years from when

913
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: you started, which isn't because again it's not like you

914
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: were seven doing this, No, you know, your origin is

915
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: not that like it was a bit later. Yeah, Stylistically,

916
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: what have you seen change in concert?

917
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 2: Like live live?

918
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't just wanna say music because it's more of

919
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: an experience. But with Christian music, what have you seen

920
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: stylistically change in the past twenty years?

921
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so much. What's so much more popular

922
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: I think across our country and it's so much. It

923
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: continues to grow, which is awesome as far as the

924
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: live experience and concert But I would say from when

925
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: I started, it was a little simple songs of a

926
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: chorus and that's what was like shaking the church. It's like, oh, mysh,

927
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: these guys are these guys are radical. They're singing a

928
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: with a guitar and don't bring the drums. It was

929
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: it was it was still literally that still like don't

930
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: don't bring the drums and uh, okay, we'll let the guitar.

931
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: But that's that's pushing it.

932
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: And now you know churches are filled with uh, just

933
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: modern music and it's and that's that's how it's changed.

934
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: But in a way, but I still feel people, I

935
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: still I still see still, even even the younger generations,

936
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: you still see people longing for the simplicity, longing for

937
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: not all the lights and the sound and the everything,

938
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: but but more of just what's real. I think, more

939
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: than anything, more than anything now people are just learning

940
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: what is what is real? Don't don't just put on

941
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: a show, but what is what is really real? People

942
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: are longing for what's real, and that's what That's what

943
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: I try to hopefully get people in my concerts and

944
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: and my other friends as well as show people what's real.

945
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: And but yeah, I mean it's it's definitely progressed a lot, especially.

946
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: In the church.

947
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our

948
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: sponsor and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

949
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Speaker 3: When you say what's real, what I think about is

950
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: and I think you're referring to like authenticity, meaning you're

951
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: not up. And I think in part of what I

952
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: do as well, like if I'm up and I'm perfect

953
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: and shiny, that's not real. And I can act like

954
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 3: a better version of what I am, but that is

955
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: not going to resonate. It may feel better to me

956
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: to be like, look at me, life's great, got it

957
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: all figured out, follow along and again for my ego,

958
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: that might feel pretty good, but I also know that

959
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: people are not going to connect with that. They're actually

960
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: going to connect with me when it's like, yeah, I

961
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: stuck at this, I struggle with this.

962
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm good at this I and I when.

963
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: You say that, that's what I hear, like, if you're

964
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: able to share not just the glossy part of life

965
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: or worship.

966
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: Exactly, because no one that doesn't help anybody. And that's

967
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: what I think when I say, people are looking longing

968
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: for the truth, long for real. Don't just put on

969
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: just don't don't gloss everything over and like, oh everything

970
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: is good. You give your life to God and everything's roses.

971
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: It's man, it's life is hard, life is unfair. Life

972
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: is comes at everybody in such hard ways. And but

973
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: what do you have in those moments? I heard somebody

974
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: recently say, you know, when the storms come, it separates

975
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: the players from the pretenders.

976
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: And that's the truth in life.

977
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: When the storms come, that separates everybody from those who

978
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: are pretending and those who are really there, who are

979
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: really like and and that is that hit me, you

980
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: know that's then that's that's that's his oldest Jesus teachings.

981
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: Right.

982
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: You can build your house on the rock, you build

983
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: your house in the sand, and the storms come, one's

984
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna stay, one's gonna crumble. And that's I think that's

985
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: what people are looking for. And when I say real,

986
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: that's what I mean.

987
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: How long you been married? Fourteen years? What's what's what's

988
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: what's the key? Yeah, the key is I'm sorry, well

989
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: you forgive me. That is the key. I mean, that

990
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: is the key.

991
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: The key is just pretty is pride pushing pride down,

992
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: pushing Saul, Yeah, pushing Saul away of like I you know,

993
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: I deserve this or I rule this or whatever it's.

994
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: It's that's the key I think is and I there's

995
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: good days, and there's and there's days. I'm so blessed

996
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: by Lauren because she's just so honest and so on me.

997
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: It makes me better.

998
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: And it's funny you lead with honest because my wife's

999
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: and I'm ten years behind you. Is why I asked that,

1000
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 3: like in marriage, what we've married four four plus years?

1001
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: And yeah, my wife's honest. But sometimes that doesn't feel good,

1002
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 3: but it's greater, like it's it's needed. But she's like

1003
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: the first person that I trust to be honest with me.

1004
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: But sometimes it doesn't feel good. And the key for

1005
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: me so far has been when you said that, it

1006
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 3: resonated like crazy has been not to be so defensive.

1007
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: So quick, Yeah, so easy. I get so defensive me too,

1008
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: and to understand that do you know all that I'm doing?

1009
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1010
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1011
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: Do you know what's coming at me? Do you know

1012
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: all the things? I mean? Instantly? And then it's like

1013
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: that that does not work. That does not work, and.

1014
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: You have to.

1015
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: And can you catch yourself? And sometimes it takes me,

1016
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, twenty minutes. Sometimes it might take me a

1017
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: couple of days, like, Okay, what am I doing? I'm

1018
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: really in a bad place here in my pride and

1019
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: in my defensiveness. And yeah, my wife is smarter than

1020
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: I am, which sucks, It does sucks.

1021
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: I mean, it's awesome, but it's the same, right, It's

1022
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: like your strength is your greatest weakness, your way. But

1023
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: it's like she she's smarter than I am. She's funnier

1024
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: than I am. She's funnier than I am in a

1025
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 3: world where I'm celebrated for being funny. And what drives

1026
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: me insane is that she has no need or desire

1027
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 3: to monetize it none.

1028
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: She does not want to be published. I'm like, you're

1029
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: wasting this talent. Look at this god given talent you

1030
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: have and it's just sitting here. Yeah, No, and now

1031
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: you know that.

1032
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: But for her, I also can accept her honesty most

1033
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: of the time and what I'm creating, and I think

1034
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: that's been so valuable, but very hard, especially at first. Yes,

1035
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: so she would tell me a joke wasn't funny, I

1036
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: be like, will you write it? And the first time

1037
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: she did and we wrote it, I was humbled. I

1038
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: couldn't have been more humbled. Wow, oh yeah, it's a

1039
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: terrible it's a terrible day, but a great day. But

1040
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, if you think it's I did

1041
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 3: the Opry and so I'm doing the opera. I played

1042
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: Operty fifteen times or so. But like one of the

1043
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 3: times I did the Opry, I'm up and I'm telling

1044
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: a joke and I came off, and I'm just ready

1045
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: to be celebrated. Wait, a great job, great job. Just

1046
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: the natural you walk off stage. Part of it is, hey,

1047
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: everybody tell me how got I did? Even if I

1048
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: don't consciously say that, that's just of course you come off. Yeah,

1049
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: that's the expectation, because that's what happens a lot of times.

1050
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, you did great. And we walk

1051
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: off and we get in the car, and she was like,

1052
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: I said, hey, how do you think I went? And

1053
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: she goes. I thought it was fine. She goes, but

1054
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: and she.

1055
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Alluded to one part of the set. She was like,

1056
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: that was too low hanging fruit for you, And I said, oh, oh,

1057
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: I was shocked. I was like, ohh, I was like what.

1058
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: Yes, she was like, there was too low. You're better

1059
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: than that. You can do better than that.

1060
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is like seven minutes after I'm

1061
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: off stage. I'm in the car ready to be my wife,

1062
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: who I love more than he'd be, like, oh, the

1063
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: best year. I let what everything you do is delightful.

1064
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: And so she's like, yeah, it's that fruits tool you get.

1065
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: You got to do better.

1066
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, then you do it. And she's like, well,

1067
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: I'm not the one that's whatever. We get home and

1068
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: like twenty minutes later she'd rewritten and it was better

1069
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: and I use and I used it.

1070
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: Am I special? And that hurt and it hurt.

1071
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: But again that that was a very minor storm, like

1072
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: you're talking about the storms right, yes, like that was

1073
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: a that was a single cell organism storm, yes, but

1074
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: was much stronger after And it's.

1075
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Speaker 2: Made me better at realizing Ah I need that honesty. Yeah,

1076
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: in many ways.

1077
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Speaker 3: And it's not just that like that's the funny version

1078
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: of it, but even in like I never grew up

1079
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: with a family, like I don't have I don't have family.

1080
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: You never have a family to have Christmas Eve with,

1081
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: Like her family bizarre foreign, not because they do anything weird.

1082
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: They're not naked or anything, but it's like I never

1083
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: did family together. Yeah, it's everybody being together. You're like

1084
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: watching a movie having waking all of it.

1085
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: And that was really difficult for me. And it's still

1086
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: foreign to me.

1087
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: But my wife, And the reason I ask about the

1088
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: wife is because I know and I just wonder how

1089
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: because we're similar, you're creating, you have to be constant.

1090
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes, how your wife affects you in that situation?

1091
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, she makes me. What she has done is made

1092
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: me such a better present to people. I don't know

1093
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: if she's really affected the music as much, but it's

1094
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: just the way I am with people, the way I

1095
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: connect with people, the way I talk with people, the

1096
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: way I understand things.

1097
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: She's helped me so much that I did not before.

1098
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: And most of my friends who have been with me,

1099
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I've got bandmates, right, that have

1100
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: been with me long way longer I've been married. They've

1101
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: known me longer than and all of them would say,

1102
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: you're such a better person, saying you're such a better person.

1103
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: And so that's that's that's amazing, you know, And that's

1104
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: and and that's marriage. Marriage is it's, it's it's it's

1105
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: no one, no one says marriage is easy, but it

1106
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: is a refining refine. It's such a refining thing. And

1107
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm so grateful for her and for my

1108
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: girls and three daughters, and they're amazing.

1109
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: Worship under the Stars.

1110
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: You're doing you're doing the series, so a couple of

1111
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: days in July and then in October.

1112
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's in New York Baltimore doing

1113
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Red Rocks. That's cool.

1114
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: Yes, not that they're not all cool, but that's that's cool.

1115
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: That's in Central Park. It's my first time there too.

1116
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's cool too.

1117
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: And they're all cool. That's my point. They're all cool.

1118
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: Red Rocks, the Red Rocks. That's difficol. So what what's

1119
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: what's happening here?

1120
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: Which, you know, I just sometimes the settings are just

1121
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: so beautiful when it comes especially when it comes to

1122
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: music everybod settings are make music so great. But when

1123
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: it comes to especially when worship music, when you have

1124
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: beautiful settings, like when you're playing I played Red Rocks

1125
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: several times and always say, if you cannot, if you

1126
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: cannot help people connect with God at Red Rocks, you've

1127
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: got serious. You don't need to be you need to

1128
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: go sell houses or something, because you don't need to

1129
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: be in music, right because you just it's already the

1130
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: setting is so incredible.

1131
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: And so yeah, we want to put.

1132
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: Together some nights of just beautiful settings, beautiful evenings, good

1133
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: beautiful places, and have these beautiful nights so call worship

1134
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: under the Stars.

1135
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe it grows from here.

1136
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: But this is our first three and the Pier six

1137
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 3: and Baltimore was this beautiful thing out in the Harbor

1138
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: Central Park and then Red Rocks and it's gonna be

1139
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna be awesome. I want to end with this,

1140
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: and I want to indulge myself with a story from me. First,

1141
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: like five or six years ago I decided, may may

1142
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: be longer than that now, maybe ten years ago, I

1143
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: don't know. I decid I'm not gonna curse anymore. You

1144
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: used to love cursing used to be mused to be

1145
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: really great at it Olympic sports. For the Olympic sport,

1146
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 3: that's something I was gonna meddle. Yeah, I was gonna

1147
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: meddal challenged.

1148
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was good at it. And I thought I'm

1149
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: done cursing.

1150
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: And not for any sort of moral reason, but because

1151
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: I didn't want to have it as a crutch when creating.

1152
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: So if I'm writing jokes, radio show, I was writing books, yes,

1153
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be because it can be funny,

1154
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: it can also be a crutch that you use whenever

1155
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: you're not funny.

1156
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: And I wanted to challenge myself.

1157
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: So I really haven't sad a curse word in ten

1158
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 3: years or so, and so not as a celebration of myself.

1159
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: But then when people say a bad word around me,

1160
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 3: they'll be like, oh, I'm sorry. I start story because

1161
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: they know I don't curse, and I'm like, no, good

1162
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 3: Like I used to if people curse.

1163
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Around you, I feel like they'd be like, oh my goodness,

1164
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.

1165
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: Chris really bothers me. It bothers me, It bothers the

1166
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: heck out of it. Yeah, when people say that, Yeah,

1167
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: when they're like so apologetic. It doesn't bother me, and

1168
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: people curse.

1169
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: Let me say that.

1170
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: It bothers me when people think that for some reason

1171
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: because I do what I do again, that they that

1172
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: that feels weird. I'm just like, come on, man, we're

1173
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: that's normal. I feel the same way. May not say

1174
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: it the same way, right, feel the same way. And yeah,

1175
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: it's always It's always bugged me so much, and I

1176
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: always all, you like, come on.

1177
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: I always like, come on, bro, don't say that. Same

1178
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: like I am. I'm good. I've heard it before.

1179
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: Same, but I wonder up to have it. And I knew,

1180
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: Like you're playing golf and someone's like, ah, bleep, they're

1181
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: probably oh sorry, sorry, sorry sorry, Yeah, like you.

1182
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: Still play, you're playing, yes, and you're coming. I know

1183
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: I haven't played. I heard my shoulder bad last year,

1184
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: so I stopped playing. And then here's the problem, Chris,

1185
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm being honest.

1186
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: I started playing pick a ball, and that you're just

1187
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 3: did you if you totally don't like fully on pickaball?

1188
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: You're one of those guys. Yeah, pretty much. I have

1189
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: a court right, just see it when you walked in

1190
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: and did Yeah. And here's the thing, Chris, I'm glad

1191
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: you asked. Thank you for asking.

1192
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: We need to talk about this.

1193
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 3: I'm really into pickleball, and I'm gonna tell you, but

1194
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: I love golf. But here's the problem with golf.

1195
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 1: No, let's I want to talk to the difference between

1196
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: tennis and pickleball.

1197
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to. But here's the problem with golf.

1198
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: It takes too long. And I play golf. I used

1199
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: play golf all the time to him, but I don't

1200
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: have three.

1201
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 3: Or four hours because I'm so insecure that I feel

1202
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: like I have to work all the time just to

1203
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: prove to myself I'm worthy that I don't block out

1204
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: the hours to go play golf.

1205
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: But I can go pickleball in an hour and you

1206
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 1: get a workout and you feel better all the things.

1207
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: And I love but I love golf. And yes, and

1208
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: you've been so I'm I'm playing your golf tournam probably

1209
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: the only time money.

1210
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill somebody with the ball. You know what

1211
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm in though, for the Lord. I'm in, Chris, I

1212
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: will hit someone with the ball for the Lord. So

1213
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: have you played pickleball at all? Yes?

1214
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: I do like pickle ball, but it's like it's all

1215
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: my tennis friends are like, it's so much better than tennis,

1216
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's not.

1217
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it.

1218
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, okay, here's one one of my best Everybody can

1219
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: play pickleball and everybody complaints this.

1220
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 2: I agree.

1221
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: One of my best friends in the whole world, groomsman

1222
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 3: Andy Roddick, former number one, just playing in the world.

1223
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: Pretty good.

1224
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: That's my guy, right, And so he makes fun of

1225
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: pickleballer's like crazy, like just really gives it to him,

1226
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: like that's yeah, you guys are laying and so he

1227
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: calls and he goes, hey, this is like a year

1228
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: and a half agod, maybe two years ago. He goes, hey,

1229
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 3: you're playing pickleball, right? So yeah, he said a little

1230
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: bit because Brett Eldridge, one of my best friends, had

1231
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: had the first court, like of our group, and so

1232
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: we'd all go to Brett's house and play all the time.

1233
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: And so I was like, yeah, I play, you know,

1234
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: maybe once a week, twice a week. And he says, uh,

1235
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: it's probably pretty easy, right. I'm like, well, you were

1236
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: number one in the world, like you won US Open.

1237
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: I feel like for you, it's gonna be pretty easy.

1238
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: He goes, okay, cool, I said, why you hate pickball?

1239
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 3: Because yeah, still hated. He goes, but I'm playing in

1240
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: a tournament like a week and a half for a

1241
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: million dollars. And I said, and you haven't played and

1242
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: you're playing wow, And he was like yeah, he guess

1243
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: it's on ESPN.

1244
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, hit, get around. He

1245
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: hit a little bit. First. He goes, why am I'm

1246
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: gonna work out a few days before? And he won?

1247
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: He won? He won? Yeah, No, he won.

1248
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 5: He won.

1249
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: So does that tell you how good he is or

1250
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: how lame pickleball is that you don't have to play it.

1251
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: Can be BA win A Yeah. I think it's both.

1252
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: I think one how good he is because he started

1253
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: playing when we were running together hard because he'd be

1254
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: gone for eight months at a time because tennis is international,

1255
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: he's all around the world, hardly ever home, but he'd

1256
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 3: be home four months a year and we would hang

1257
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: out all the time. And so we play golf and

1258
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: we started playing around the same time, and I watched

1259
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: him go from shooting one oh six to like seventy

1260
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: seven and about three months because his hand eye coordination. Yes,

1261
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: and so pickleball he started playing it and got real good, which,

1262
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: by the way, he tores meniscus like the day before

1263
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: the tournament still won, still one, which is crazy. So

1264
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: there's a lameness to it when it comes to tennis.

1265
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: But I like pickleball because the floor is higher, meaning

1266
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: you don't me Moss can play, yes, but if you

1267
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: to be good, like I could probably wax you pretty

1268
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: good right now back there, But yeah.

1269
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: You could, yeah, because I understand because I get out

1270
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: and hit my friends who play and they kill me.

1271
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: And I understand there's a skill too, there's strategy, all

1272
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: the things.

1273
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: But it's better than tennis. No, it's not.

1274
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: And what about pickleball on TV? That's what I really

1275
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: can't get in.

1276
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: Okay, do you watch? It's difficult for me too, and

1277
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: I will be full disclosure. I own part of a

1278
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: major league pickleball team.

1279
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: Okay, this is This is so good?

1280
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 3: Is another podcast and it's difficult at times. I don't

1281
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: think they have mastered. It reminds me of like the

1282
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: sixties when they started shooting football from the top of

1283
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: the bleachers and they really didn't have the angles or

1284
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: know how to. It feels like that right now that

1285
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: they've tried to make it tennis, and it's not. It's

1286
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: a different game, different games, So I don't feel like

1287
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: they've captured the content in a way that reflects how

1288
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: fun the game is.

1289
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: Probably so I think that needs needs to progress.

1290
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: But I do think that pickleballs is is like I'm

1291
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: watching Wimbledon. Not everybody can play tennis. Honestly, they can't

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Speaker 3: not air bake up by tennis, right. And also, tennis,

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: to me was a rich person's game. We didn't the equipment.

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00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: You could buy a paddle now for like thirty bucks,

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00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: the little plastic ball, a smaller court.

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Speaker 2: Yes it's lame, but it's my lame, so I will

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: defend it. It's it's not lame.

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Speaker 3: I like it. It's a great game. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 3: great game. But I'm just saying it's that.

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Speaker 1: When when I saw them trying to do it on TV,

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01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah it does this is this

1302
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: is hard.

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01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like whiffle ball to baseball.

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01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: It's kind of goofy. Yeah, but that doesn't mean it

1305
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: can't be fine competitive and you a little work out in,

1306
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: but it's better. I didn't like tennis. I never liked tennis.

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01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: I loved it. Gosh, I loved it.

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: I was never like an Andy Roddick. I always wanted

1309
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: to be. But you have a tennis Did you have

1310
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: tennis your high school?

1311
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did.

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: I never was exposed to us. I probably would have

1313
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: been pro. If I'm being honest, right, how would I not?

1314
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: Of no doubt? Look at you? Look at me now?

1315
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it couldn't be any more pro. Okay, look you

1316
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: guys follow Chris on Instagram at Chris Tomlin.

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01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh you're too kind. So after your Heart is in

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: House of David Yep.

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Speaker 3: Okay, song The Last Supper, which you are an executive

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01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: producer of, Yes and No Greater Love is in the

1321
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: credits that don't don't stop watching until the song finishes.

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, doesn't.

1323
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, once the movie ends, yes, so watch it, but

1324
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: then don't stop until the credits roll. That's right, okay,

1325
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: And then as of now you can watch the first time.

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: The documentary is on the Wonder platform, and then the

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01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: song as of now, because it is beyond April eleventh

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Speaker 3: when this airs, it is on anywhere stream music.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And the Good Friday. But you don't need to tell

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Speaker 1: Good Friday to take it you're good. No, we're good,

1332
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: We're good. You don't have enough seats?

1333
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: Good Friday. Okay, that's good, and you're coming.

1334
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: We'll see which if your parent, if your bofe's parents come,

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: we'll see.

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Speaker 3: If they come, it's because they wanted to come to

1337
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: the show for you. If they don't come, it's because

1338
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: you didn't convince them. It wasn't enough of a flat

1339
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: strong and convinced them.

1340
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah da.

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01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: But either way, I will say I was genuinely moved,

1342
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: and I am jaded as all get out, and I

1343
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: was genuinely moved by the show.

1344
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that.

1345
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, I know we get around it

1346
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: in all seriousness, full sincerity, genuinely. Well, I hope I

1347
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: appreciate you saying it, and I hope you can come

1348
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: this year because be really special. The part I didn't like, though,

1349
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: if I can, Yeah, the honest part is partly didn't like.

1350
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: This is your wife speaking right now?

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 5: Yeah yah yah.

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: It's when we pulled down because you were so nice

1353
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: to give us a good parking I saw who all

1354
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: the special guests would surprises were by the parking spots

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: with the names on it.

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Speaker 2: Mmm. So yeah.

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 3: I mean that's it's you know, rich rich person problems. Yeah,

1358
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: but I saw like, oh Landy, and I was like, oh,

1359
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: there's no surprises now. I just saw everybody who's parking

1360
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: down there, and the parking Chris gave us. That's the

1361
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: part I didn't like, but you did. But the show

1362
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: was excellent. But next time, maybe I just blindfold myself

1363
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: and sit passenger and let my wife.

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01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: Walk me in a bit. Idea, we're gonna put you out.

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01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, let's not do that. I like

1366
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: exactly where we were. We had the best parking spot.

1367
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: I got parking where you will not know.

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01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: No, no, no no. I don't want to take this

1369
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 3: the wrong way. I want the same parking at Chris Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: You guys, go see Chris. It's an excellent show. And

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Speaker 3: Chris could to see you. Man.

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Speaker 2: That was awes Thank you man, it's good to be here.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.