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Speaker 1: Yes, it's time.

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Speaker 2: Hell le Lo Low welcome you to the Naughty but Nicea.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rob Shooter. And it is Wednesday. It

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Speaker 2: means a dear friend. Donny Meacham joins us. Hey, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: are you there?

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Speaker 3: Hello, level Hello, it is Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it just feels good. This week feels good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it feels good.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot to like gr on, but it

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Speaker 1: feels good.

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Speaker 2: You have your health, you have your good looks, and

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Speaker 2: you have your best friend, Rob Shooter. I think very

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Speaker 2: plenty amazing things to me. I've been watching you, Donnie

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Speaker 2: on the Tickety Talk. I stumbled upon you.

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Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard. It's a full time job.

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Speaker 2: It's a full I have missed the boat. I've missed

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Speaker 2: the boat. I have so much respect for all these

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Speaker 2: influencers who do this all day longer. I mean, you've

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Speaker 2: got to be a narcissist to start with, like, it's

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Speaker 2: always got to be about you, you, you, you. But

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Speaker 2: they do do the work I do one to day, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: and it's enough.

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Speaker 3: It's exhausting because I sit there, I'm like, what am

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Speaker 3: I going to say? And then I'm just myself and

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Speaker 3: then I'm like, what is that what people want to wine?

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Speaker 1: And You're like, you know what, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I think you're charming, followed Donnie if you are not. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I started about six months ago and I try to

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Speaker 2: do one gossipy video a day. I should do two,

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Speaker 2: I guess, But my goodness, a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a full time job.

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Speaker 3: Like all those people averybody makes fun of these influencers

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff. And it's like a post takes

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Speaker 3: hours because you have to edit it, you have to

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Speaker 3: perfect it, you'd put the right and then literally you

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Speaker 3: have to think about what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: It's a full time job.

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Speaker 2: It's a full time job. Mine are very bare bones.

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Speaker 2: It's just me and a camera. There's no edits. I

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Speaker 2: just don't live. But some of these influencers, they're really

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Speaker 2: produced likes and like a Steven Spielberg movie. Looks like

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Speaker 2: it could be at the movies too much. Okay, follow us,

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Speaker 2: but let's jump into ashow. What time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 2: It is two time. Big story at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show, so this isnew Matthew Perry documentary, and the

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Speaker 2: director is revealing why they cast of friends are not

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Speaker 2: in it. So the director of this new documentary it's

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Speaker 2: called Matthew Perry a Hollywood Tragedy, Well, that title alone

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Speaker 2: tells you why you're not getting Jennifer and Courtney and Lisa. Well,

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Speaker 2: he is saying that he invited them all to be

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Speaker 2: part of it. He invited David Schwimmer, Jennifer Aniston, Courtney Cox,

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Speaker 2: Lisa Kudrow, and Matt LeBlanc, but they all declined to

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Speaker 2: be interviewed. He said, it's understandable that they were reluctant

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Speaker 2: to do a documentary about Matthew at this point. Maybe

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Speaker 2: in a few years down the line, maybe they'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Then listen, they're not doing this ever, they don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk about this. Remember when Matthew was alive and

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Speaker 2: they did a reunion special I think it was on HBO,

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Speaker 2: and they all made a million dollars each to sit

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Speaker 2: down for just an hour reunion to lorge friends going

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Speaker 2: to hate. It was a promotional thing for them. They

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Speaker 2: which makes them even more money. And so if it's

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Speaker 2: not about the money, they're not doing it. But I'd

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Speaker 2: argue here, Donnie, that all the money in the world

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Speaker 2: is not gonna make them talk about Matthew. They don't

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Speaker 2: want to do this. No.

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Speaker 3: The thing is is like, look, if matt died in

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Speaker 3: a way that wasn't so tragic. He died a fit

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Speaker 1: It's very sad.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, they don't want to talk about

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Speaker 3: it because A it's tacky, and b they run the

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Speaker 3: risk of it's still Hollywood. They run the risk of

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Speaker 3: like that. They loved this man. They spent People don't

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Speaker 1: When they're filming a TV show.

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Speaker 3: You spend months with these Yes, hours on sage hours

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Speaker 1: Now you get so close to these people. They are

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Speaker 1: your family. Yeah, so no, I want to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: They're not talking about this. I think you're right on

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Speaker 2: two levels. One, on a personal level, this is their

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Speaker 2: friend who died tragically, who died. Secondly, this is their income.

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Speaker 2: They still make all their money from friends, and they

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Speaker 2: of this documentary tells you they're not going to do

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Speaker 2: it if it was a celebration of Matthew's life or

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Speaker 2: of his comedy. Maybe they've never spoken out. I think

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Speaker 2: after the death Donny they issued a joint statement we

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Speaker 2: said they would do that. They've not spoken about it since.

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Speaker 2: They've not done a single interview about it. I'm told

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Speaker 2: Jennifer or anybody else, you have to promise no questions,

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Speaker 2: no questions about Matthew, no questions about friends. And I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's because they're embarrassed. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: that they're avoiding this. They don't want to touch it

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Speaker 2: because it's just too painful and be what do you

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Speaker 2: say say? Do you look like you're in denial? Do

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Speaker 2: you say we had no idea? They have talked about

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Speaker 2: they did have some suspicions. There's nothing here they can add,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing they can gain from doing this interview. And

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Speaker 2: insider told me the only way Jennifer will ever talk

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Speaker 2: about this is if she writes a memoir, which is

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Speaker 2: very unlikely. She's a very very private person. I don't

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Speaker 2: and this might be one chapter. But that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I get it. I get the reluctancy here. I'm no friend,

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Speaker 2: I'm no TV star, but I was very close with

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Speaker 2: Kate Spade, the designer, and when Katie died, many many

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Speaker 2: And I got booked on a morning show and I

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Speaker 2: canceled two days before because it just didn't feel right.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't feel right, which brings us to our

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Speaker 2: pohole question of the day. The Friends co stars were

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Speaker 2: nowhere to be seen in Matthew Perry's new documentary Should

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Speaker 2: they have participated? What do you think? Should they have

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Speaker 2: done the show? Now? I know Donnie and I have

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Speaker 2: given you all the reasons that they shouldn't. One of

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Speaker 2: the reasons that they should, Donnie is maybe they want

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Speaker 2: to keep his memory alive, Maybe they want to have

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Speaker 2: more of a balance, Maybe they want to talk about

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Speaker 2: the fun times because you know this documentary is going

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Speaker 2: to be sad, so maybe they could have injected that.

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Speaker 3: Recod The only reason why I would say maybe do

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Speaker 3: it is because you know, the only people they're going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when friends don't do it, yeah, you just leave

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Speaker 2: behind people who don't like you. I was working with

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Speaker 2: Jalo and e True Hollywood Story was doing a lifetime

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Speaker 2: special Love of Jlo True Hollywood Stories that what it's

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Speaker 2: Jennifer not to do it, and I said, jen, if

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Speaker 2: you could help all your friends, or you're going to

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Speaker 2: leave the people that don't like you. And then we

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Speaker 2: stacked to the deck with friends. But this is maybe

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Speaker 2: just a little bit too close. Okay, moving along, what

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Speaker 1: The Royal rejection?

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Speaker 3: We will say though that Megan is denying that it's true,

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Speaker 3: but you know, sources tell Page six that she was

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Speaker 3: Page six wouldn't run something unless it's true. I know

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Speaker 3: Page six seems like a tabloid, but they are actually

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Speaker 1: So I think that's what we have to watch.

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Speaker 3: But also it's very It's interesting that she would get

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Speaker 2: Agen You must have already gotten paid. Yes, well they

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Speaker 2: know something too. They do know something. I know the

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Speaker 2: person Mara who wrote this story for as a terrific reporter.

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Speaker 2: So it's an odd story because the headline is that

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Speaker 2: Megan got dumped by William Morris really for being too difficult,

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Speaker 2: So the fact that it ran, and the fact that

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Speaker 2: What I'm being told is they might not represent Meghan

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Speaker 2: them is that William Morris Agency Entertainment, they represent some

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Speaker 2: it is Megan Really the worst. Page six are saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's too demanded in, too difficult to work with. If

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Speaker 2: these Hollywood agencies dropped clients because they were too difficult, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: they were not any clients, So it doesn't mean what

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Speaker 2: but so is every celebrity.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, though, is I wonder if it William

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Speaker 3: Moore's deal with Netflix Meghan's not sitting in a room

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Speaker 1: Kiboshing this whole. Oh maybe Megan thing they know they're

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah. These agentci so on you make money when

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Speaker 2: My experience is, outside of really bad conduct, really really

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Speaker 2: bad behavior, these agentsies will represent anybody that makes money

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Speaker 2: on Monday and the minute you don't make the money.

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Speaker 2: When I had my show on VH one, to the

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Speaker 2: had I returnd any of those calls, they probably would

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Speaker 2: have taken them. They only want you in you're heart,

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Speaker 2: They only want you when you're working. They only want

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Speaker 2: you when you are making the money. And maybe Megan

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Speaker 2: now has peaked. I think she probably has. We will

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Speaker 3: And you know, I just the constant emailing about just

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Speaker 3: And you know Andy, Andy is tricky but you know, yes,

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Speaker 2: We'll get that list about it. Yeah, we'll get that list.

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Speaker 2: He might listen to our show. Don you fell into

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Speaker 2: about this, Donie, because I can get down in the land.

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Speaker 2: If you punch me, im't punch you back. And it's

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Speaker 2: the Norty Venaishami host shoot with their differend Donny Meecham. Hey, Donny,

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Speaker 2: let's get to the pool. Thank you. Last year we

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Speaker 2: talked about the deep rift between Harry and William. Isn't

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Speaker 2: Seventy six percent said yes enough. If not for yourselves,

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Speaker 2: do it for your families. It's interesting, Donnie, when we

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Speaker 2: hard time being nice to them. I would, I would

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Speaker 3: Well as it might look like Travis Kelsey might retire,

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Speaker 3: it might be yes, even Patrick Mahomes alluded to it

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Or he's waiting for.

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Speaker 3: A multi million dollar contract, which good for him, but

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Speaker 3: him now. I will say it straight from me to you.

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Speaker 1: He is hot.

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Speaker 3: That man is gorgeous. But just because you're gorgeous doesn't

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Speaker 1: But the producers are actually telling people he's.

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Speaker 2: options and nicest of the day, and now is the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty.

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Speaker 2: David Beckham's mother in law can not stop zooming in

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Speaker 2: Great response. I think we're all a little guilty of

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Speaker 2: can't change the direction of the wind, but I can

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Speaker 2: adjust my sails to always reach my destination. Let's think

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Speaker 2: what we're saying here is you can't change your circumstances.

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Speaker 2: You can change the decisions you make within those circumstances,

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Speaker 2: I've had to do this a lot. I've always fought

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Speaker 1: I think you know. You just have to. I'm very adaptable.

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Speaker 1: It's what I do. I just like I move with it.

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Speaker 3: But also if something's not working for me, change it,

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Speaker 1: Out, is pushing into the sale. It's allowing you to move,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely beautifully said, change your sales today, my friends, because

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Speaker 2: we can't change the direction of the wind. Hey, that

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Speaker 2: is it for today. Thank you so much for listening

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