1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis en 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show is kicking off right now. Appreciate you 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: rolling with us. As always much to discuss. We'll be 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: getting into all of it today with you. We have 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: the bud Lot sorry, bud Light boycott is crushing sales 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: for that company down twenty six percent, which is I 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: think even more than a lot of people anticipated who 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: were pushing for this. That's when you start getting close 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: to a thirty percent sales drop, the corporate executive folks 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: are going to be hitting the panic button a bit. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: So that we're going to discuss in just a moment 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: some new polling out Trump and DeSantis. Trump topping DeSantis 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: right now. Latest poll this reported on by The Hill 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: thirty six points. Trump is ahead of DeSantis. Plus Clay's 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: got some data on who has allready decided, like who 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: in the GOP side isn't waiting to see how any 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: primary plays out. I mean, we're expecting a Tim Scott 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: entry into the race, soom we're expecting, so Senator Scott, 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: we're expecting. Obviously Ron DeSantis and perhaps a few others, 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: and then we'll get into the latest details on it. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Also a story that I want to speak to you about. 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: On the law enforcement side, we have a former Minneapolis 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: police officer, Tao Tao Tao or To Tao, who was 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: not in any way violent against George Floyd. This is 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: now going back to the George Floyd incident. But he 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: was holding back bystanders. He was just another officer called 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: to the scene. He just got four years in prison 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: after being fired from his job. They called him aiding 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: or they charged him and now convicted him with aiding 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: and abetting manslaughter. Which this is political, this is mob justice. 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: This is wrong. We will discuss this, and then also 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: the Biden administration, Clay sending or considering at this point 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: sending fifteen hundred active duty US troops to the southern 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: border in anticipation of the deluge of illegal crossings that 37 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: we are all expecting on to get even bigger, I mean, 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: more of it on the eleventh of May, when Title 39 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: forty two expires. But let's start off with the bud 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: Light situation. You know, Clay. One thing I've seen on 41 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: the right that has been interesting is the back and 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: forth over how much how much pain is enough? I 43 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: will say I spoke to someone recently who pointed out, 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's the message is being sent to 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: bud Light, but you have distributors and salespeople and folks 46 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with this who are obviously 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: also very much being affected by it. So the right 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: has mobilized. Is that what's the right strategy at this 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: point to just stay with it or to say I 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: think the point has been made, bud Light should have 51 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: and if bud Light apologizes formally to its you know, 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: it's consumers, it's customers, move on and just let everybody 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: know that this can happen. Or do you think that 54 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: you think it's got to suffer a little bit more 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: before the message really gets through. I would add on 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: more steam. 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: I think this is and this is important because I 58 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: think this is the most effective brushback pitch that anyone 59 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: has ever thrown at a company for woke related advertising. 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: And let me just give you a couple of quotes here. 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, they're down twenty six point one percent 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: from a year earlier in April of twenty two. That's 63 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: Beer Business Daily, that's the bud Light sets volume and 64 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: every week is continuing to get worse. Beer Business Daily said, 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: and this is their quote. The shocking deterioration of bud 66 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Light's market share continued through the third week of April 67 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: and actually somehow worsened. We've never seen such a dramatic 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: shift in national share in such a short period of time, 69 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 3: Beer Business Daily wrote on its website. And I would 70 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: presume that Beer Business Daily is fairly well plugged in 71 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: on the beer beer business. 72 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: I was gonna say they're getting more of a plug 73 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: here on this show than I have in a long time. 74 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: I've never heard of this site before. 75 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: That's a that's a very specific and targeted audience that 76 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: the Beer Business Daily is focused on. All right, So 77 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: what is going on here? Let me just I think 78 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: this is an instructive for our audience. Buck of all 79 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: the advertisers that we have on this show, this is 80 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: among the biggest and most lucrative radio shows audio programs 81 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: really anywhere in the country. But you guys, we've been 82 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: on this show for two years. Everybody out there listening, 83 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: have you ever heard a beer or liquor advertise on 84 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: this program? Have you ever heard a restaurant you ever 85 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: heard a car, Have you ever heard a TV show 86 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: or a movie? Have you ever heard any sports league advertise? 87 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: I just bring all of that up because Rush was 88 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: boycotted by advertisers, because the woke advertising industry decided that 89 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: all of you out there listening to us right now, 90 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: your opinions don't matter. They consider you to be toxic 91 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: to be reached. I don't care if bud Light wants 92 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: to advertise to trans people, and they're also advertising to 93 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: people who believe in the Second Amendment and the Constitution. 94 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: Right If bud Light's perspective buck was we want every 95 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: single American to drink our beer, and so we are 96 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: going to spend our advertising money evenly across the entire 97 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: landscape of American thought, then I would say, okay, you 98 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: know what, that makes sense. 99 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: But that's not what happens. 100 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: The advertising industry and the biggest brands out there are 101 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: the wokest in all of America, and they have gotten 102 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: rich off the idea that all they have to do 103 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: is cater to the far left wing. And that's how 104 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: this Dylan Mulvaney idiocy happened. Bud Light has gotten used 105 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: to as all these other brands have Buck that there 106 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: is no negative association that ever comes from being too woke. 107 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: And this is one of the first times I've seen 108 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: a real solid punchback as people said, this is unacceptable. 109 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: There's a choke point here that you're you're addressing in 110 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: our society, and that is if you can control you know, 111 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: people will often say, why is it that there's ninety 112 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: ninety five percent of journalism quote unquote journalism that all 113 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: comes from one side of the ideological spectrum? Right? How 114 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: does that happen? Why are there so many more sites 115 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: out there and different corporate media outlets that are avowedly 116 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: democrat aligned and left wing than on the right. And 117 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: you know, people will say, and it's really trolling. I 118 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: mean there'll be you know, if we ask Chuck Todd this, 119 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: you would just say, well, that's what the people want. No, 120 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: that's actually not a function of what the people want, 121 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: because we know half the country at least is right 122 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: of center or center right, whatever you want to designate 123 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: it as. But when they control the choke point of 124 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: advertising dollars, that's effectively deciding what businesses can exist. Right. 125 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: So if the ad agency it's very hard to get 126 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: going and get started. And this is one component of it. 127 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: When you talk about bud Light and their in house ads, 128 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: what about Google? What about Facebook? You start to look 129 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: at the biggest ad agencies, or rather ad purveyors really 130 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: out there, the ones that have more control over the 131 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: advertising market than anything else. They are exercising enormous influence 132 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: on all companies, not just media companies, to adopt certain 133 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: political stances and to deal with their customers in a 134 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: certain way. And it's pernicious because what's the accountability for that? Right? 135 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: I mean what It's very tough to get at let's 136 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: say Google or Facebook, or honestly, any of the Madison 137 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: Avenue advertisers, no matter how left wing they are, because 138 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: they're a little removed from it. They're not telling the 139 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: audience we hate you, we think you're destroying our democracy. 140 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: They have to say it in that register, has to 141 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: be high pitched. They're not saying that. They're saying, well, 142 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: we just won't do business with center right companies, or 143 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: will punish any company that zeers into center right territory 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: or even refuses. And this is even more extreme, which 145 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: is what we've seen refuses to tow the line of 146 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: left wing lunacy, which is now where we are right now. 147 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: It's if you don't have people put in their pronouns 148 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: and email signatures enough, maybe they don't want to do 149 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: business with you. If you're not on shot number nine 150 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: and not Fauci approved, maybe you're not going to get 151 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: that huge ad campaign with you know, Mercedes Benz or 152 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: bud Light. 153 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: Well, and this is where the Left has been far 154 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: more successful. And you guys who listened to Rush for 155 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: a long time know exactly what I'm talking about. They 156 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: realize that they couldn't win in the marketplace of ideas. 157 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: Right If people want to come after you, Buck or 158 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: me or anybody else and say, hey, we think their 159 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: opinion is dumb on this issue and they want to 160 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: argue against this, I welcome it. That's how the marketplace 161 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: of ideas is. But the difference is the left said, oh, 162 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: not even going to try to win the argument with 163 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: the Russian Limbaws of the world. We're just gonna try 164 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: to shut them down. And the way they tried to 165 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: shut them down again not by winning arguments, but by 166 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: trying to make this show and many other shows so 167 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: toxic that major advertisers wouldn't spend money on them. And look, 168 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: there are shows out there with a pinprick of this 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: audience that have eight different car companies, every beer under 170 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: the sun trying to advertise with them. And so my 171 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: position on this is you have to send a message 172 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: sometimes that the other side will punch back. And I 173 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: want bud Light to continue to suffer here because every 174 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: brand I want in the back of their head them 175 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: to think about what might happen. Here's a good example 176 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: from sports. 177 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Buck. 178 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: You know what a great safety does in football. He 179 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: makes every wide receiver coming over the middle think this 180 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 3: guy's gonna take my head off and he might play right. 181 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: It's whatever, No, I was gonna say that, but yeah. 182 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: He might not do it every play. But what happens 183 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: is those receivers don't come across as aggressively when there's 184 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: a big hitter out there. And I think there are 185 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: a lot of brands right now having meetings and they're saying, 186 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: we don't want to get bud whited. 187 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: Do we really need to spend our money this way? 188 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: Do you know you have you ever seen this? And 189 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe we could link to these guys. I'll 190 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: send it to the team because it made me, think 191 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: of this Clay, this guy Ryan Long who's a comedian, 192 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: fantastic and yes, and Fisher who's who's also a comedian, 193 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: and they these guys are great. They do a whole thing, 194 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: a whole send up of left wing versus right wings. 195 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: We need we need to we need to play, you know, 196 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: play some of this because I mean they nail Look, 197 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: you know, we have to take a little bit of 198 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: you know, on the on the right we sell freedom water, 199 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, I mean that's kind of what that's our 200 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: sponsor is water that loves freedom. Okay, they're taking a 201 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: little shot at us, but you know the truth is, 202 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: if you're buying water from people who actually love America 203 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: in the Constitution, you are putting your dollars where you 204 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: where your beliefs are. To me funnier, but they give 205 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: it to both sides a little bit. The funnier part 206 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: of it is when they have this guy who seems 207 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: a tie fish by the way, Ty Fisher is his 208 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: name the community. He's a really funny guy and he's 209 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: a conservative. He does the left wing sponsors and I'll 210 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: send this the team will play them ass we come 211 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: back left wing sponsors. He's like Hey, guys, welcome to 212 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: the socialism how are brought to you by HBO, Hulu 213 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: and Netflix, you know, or it's you know, hey, welcome 214 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: to the Communist sit Down sponsored by Amazon, and you 215 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: sit here here like this is true. We have these 216 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: radical left wing politics. 217 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: If you go look at some of these podcasts that 218 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: are like yeah, like you know, revolution, Power to the People, 219 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: universal basic income, somehow they're sponsored by Visa and MasterCard. 220 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: But if you go on conservative shows, you know, it's 221 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: and you know what it is. It is decades of 222 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 2: the perception building up and the activist community of the 223 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: left weaponizing this that if you put money on a 224 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: conservative show, doesn't matter what the return is, we will 225 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: come after you. And that's been the perception that has 226 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: now turned into just an almost universal belief. Maybe the 227 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: bud Light moment also starts to shift that a little bit. 228 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's what I would tell bud Light if 229 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: I were advising them, I would say, just announce that 230 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: you're going to advertise everywhere. I would pour money into 231 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: Fox News. I would pour money into Clay and Buck. 232 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: I would pour money into OutKick Right. I would go 233 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: out there and say we want to try to reach 234 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: every consumer, because I'll tell you right now, this thing 235 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: is landing. And what's also becoming very apparent is if 236 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: you're the guy who drinks the bud Light, a lot 237 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: of your buddies are making fun of you now, and 238 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: so you're just switching and you're like, I'll just drink someone, 239 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: I'll drink Cores Light, I'll drink Miller Light. And that's 240 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: what the data is reflecting. People aren't abandoning beer, they're 241 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: just drinking different brands. 242 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Bud Light into like the crocks of beer. Remember when 243 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: everybody was wearing crocks because they were so comfortable. Then 244 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, if you wear crocs on your feet, 245 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: people were like, hey, man, I don't want to Now. 246 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: You know what cycle back? Crocs are cool? Pot I know, 247 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: I know my kids. 248 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: Wear crocs, like they have the amount of money that 249 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: I spent on crocs down at kids. 250 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: The cool kids wear the crocs. Now I didn't even know. 251 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: I knew they had made a little bit of a comeback, 252 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: but I thought, oh no, crockies are wildly popular now. 253 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: They went from imminently mockable as you're talking about, to now, 254 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: if you've got grandkids or you've got kids, there's almost 255 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: one hundred percent chance they're wearing crocs. I mean it's crazy. 256 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: Uh okay, speaking of a company that'll stand up for you. 257 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: In My Pillow deal of the year going right now, 258 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: just in time for Mother's Day. My slippers. They are 259 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: amazing one hundred and fifty dollars value. 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Click on the radio 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: listener square use Clay. 278 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: And Buck do it today, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 279 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: chuck up a win for tea reality third hour. 280 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody, Thank you 281 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: for being here with us. Thanks for joining us. If 282 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: you're just tuning in or staying with us for the 283 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: whole show today. Remember you can download the Clay and 284 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Buck podcast. Please subscribe to it on the iHeart app. 285 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: And we've got a whole bunch of things going into 286 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: that feed that aren't even available during our live three 287 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: hour day show, So go subscribe. You know, if you're 288 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: a radio listener, now, I want to tell you a 289 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: tale of well I suppose yes. It is a tale 290 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: of two cities in a sense, one being sorry, one 291 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: being Clay just gave me the look like come on, buddy, no, no, no, 292 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: I was laughing. 293 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: I was just laughing because my kids have been have 294 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: been talking about having to read some Charles Dickens lately. 295 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: So a reference to begin the show here, Yeah. 296 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: Freshman, you know high school English, so you have san Francisco, 297 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: what's going on in San Francisco and what's going on 298 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, and how how I want to tie these 299 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: two things together. You'll know, it's always remarkable to me 300 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: how democrat Minnesota has become. I used to go fishing 301 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: and camping with my dad in the summer and my 302 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: brother's up in Eli, ely Eely, Minnesota. I always forget. 303 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: It's Eli right on the border with Canada, and Minnesota 304 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: is always so nice. They do have their reputation very 305 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: similar to the reputation of Canadians. Very democrat state, though 306 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: Minneapolis is a super Democrat stronghold. And we'll get into 307 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: obviously the George Floyd aftermath situation there what happened to 308 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: that city. But I just want to start with San Francisco, 309 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: which is for a city over a half a million, 310 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: I think the highest percentage of Democrats in all of 311 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: America for a city of that size. DC is really 312 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: close now, but I still think San Francisco comes in 313 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: at number one. So you have a one party city, 314 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: a true one party city, and they open and just 315 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: last year a Whole Foods in downtown San Francisco. Eight 316 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: giant flagship Whole Foods for those of you who have 317 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: never experienced this. I mean, it's just endless fancy gluten 318 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: free brands and organic and sustainable and all that. 319 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: All that a white woman's paradise, let's be honest, and 320 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: white liberal woman's paradise. Whole Foods, I bet the absolute 321 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: apex for white women liberals. 322 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: So they had a problem though, actually a lot of problems. 323 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: This is from a New York Times piece earlier this week. 324 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: The store was confronted head on with many of the 325 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: problems plaguing the area. People threatened employees with guns, knives 326 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: and sticks. They flung food, screamed, fought, and tried to 327 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 2: defecate on the floor. This is according to records of 328 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty eight emergency calls over thirteen months 329 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: from the Whole Foods. Five hundred and sixty eight emergency 330 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: calls in basically a year. Everybody do the math on 331 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: how many emergency calls are coming from Whole Foods. What 332 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: kind of stuff clay was? All these emergency calls in 333 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: this fancy, fancy grocery store in a super elite, you know, 334 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi style liberal city. Things like quote mail with 335 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: machete is back. Another security guard was just assaulted. A 336 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: man with a four inch knife attacked security guards, then 337 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: sprayed employees with foam from a fire extinguisher. These are 338 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: all separate incidents. A thirty year old man died in 339 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: the bathroom from a fentanyl overdose, and they closed this store. 340 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: They announced it last month because of the safety of employees, 341 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: property crimes like shoplifting, car break ins for people shopping there, 342 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: and entrenched network of dealers selling fentanyl and other illicit drugs, 343 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: and people suffering from extreme mental illness wandering around out front, 344 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 2: a total scene of daily bedlam, anarchy, and you know, 345 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: public urination and other things at this Whole Foods. And 346 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: finally San Franciscans are starting to say no, this is 347 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: a bad look. Clay. I just want to juxtapose this 348 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: with because think about all this people with machetes, threatening people, stealing, 349 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: doing all this stuff. How many of them do you 350 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: think got a four year prison sentence for any of 351 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: the things they did. I would bet almost none. Yeah, 352 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: I think probably zero. I think zero. Now change that 353 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: up with what we just found out in Minneapolis again, 354 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: another Democrat city to thou who is a former Minneapolis 355 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: PD officer who was charged in George Floyd's killing by 356 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: officer Chauvin. He never touched Chauvin. He had no part 357 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: of what was done to Chauvin. He was doing crowd 358 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: control because a crowd gathered al Chauvin had his knee 359 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: on Floyd. They just sentenced him to four years in prison. Now, 360 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: I know people say these are separate incidents, and they're 361 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: know there's something broader at work here. When the politics 362 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: demand it, we will throw law enforcement or in these 363 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: Democrat cities, they will throw law enforcement under the bus 364 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: without a second thought. Meanwhile, people who are just repeat 365 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: criminals and a menace to individuals and constant threats to 366 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: everybody around them, given chance after chance, fifty arrests and 367 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: we don't want to come down too hard on them. 368 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: There's something wrong here, Clay with this mindset. 369 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Buck, I want to go back to San 370 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 3: Francisco for a moment, But I think it's emblematic of 371 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: what happens when it's a Democrat controlled city. Seven percent 372 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: of voters in San Francisco identify as Republicans seven percent, 373 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: So there's that ninety three percent Democrat stronghold. You're talking 374 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: about that whole foods front page New York Times. I 375 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: read an article over the weekend about the commercial real 376 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: estate market in San Francisco, and it continues to set 377 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: off alarm bells that almost no one is talking about 378 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: California Street. 379 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: Some of you will know it. 380 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: It's, according to this Wall Street Journal article, home to 381 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: some of the world's most valuable commercial real estate. Before 382 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 3: COVID runs through the heart of the city's financial district, 383 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: banks other companies. One building there, Buck to twenty two 384 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: story glass stone tower at three point fifty California Street. 385 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, this building was worth three hundred million 386 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: dollars three hundred million dollars. It's now going for sale 387 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: and they are expecting it to get about sixty million 388 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: dollars on the bid. Now, I just want you to 389 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: use that. What this is pro I'm in real estate 390 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: in California. It was on the market in twenty nineteen 391 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: with evaluation of three hundred million dollars. It's now going 392 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 3: to be worth sixty million. Why does that happen? Interest 393 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: rates are all factoring in, but California, San Francisco in particular, 394 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: nobody's going back to work. Buck and you talk about 395 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: what happened with that Whole Foods they were that's right 396 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: down the street from where Twitter headquarters is. These are 397 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: elite level shopping employees and shoppers they wanted. They made 398 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: that start coming for those employees, by the way, that 399 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: was the whole point of it. Yeah, these people aren't 400 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: coming back to the center of the city. They're not 401 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: going into these office buildings. The market is collapsing all around. 402 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: And what I am fascinated to see, buck is I 403 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: think we're only seeing the beginnings of it because when 404 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: these buildings you're talking about a three hundred million dollar 405 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: building that they're expecting to sell for sixty loses eighty 406 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 3: percent of its value. The reason is there's nobody who 407 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: wants to buy the tendency and they're going to have 408 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: to rehab this building and everything else. This is starting 409 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: to feed on itself very rapidly. If you don't have 410 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: businesses because there's nobody coming into the city center to 411 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: use them anymore, the city centers can fall apart really fast, 412 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: and you almost get this post apocalyptic landscape of San 413 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: Francisco where you've got drug addled people defecating all over 414 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: the streets and the actual people who are paying, taxes, 415 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: are fleeing, and there now are going to be major 416 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: holes in every city budget. And I'm worried this commercial 417 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: real estate mess is going to start to spiral everywhere 418 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: because people aren't going into these office buildings anymore, and 419 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: that means the businesses that support the office workers go down. 420 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, a lot of these places 421 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: that you used to be jewels of American commerce are 422 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: falling apart, and they're doing it really fast, all under 423 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: the auspices of almost one hundred percent Democrat control. 424 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: I think it's going to get ugly, Buck, I think 425 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: it's going to get really ugly. Yes. And the problem 426 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: that you have with whether it's San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Yeah, 427 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Los Angeles is so spread out that it's different. Los 428 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Angeles is really many cities that go under the name 429 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, right, But you know, if you're in downtown 430 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, you might as well be in a different 431 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: country than if you're in Santa Monica in terms of 432 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: the traffic and everything else. But it's very hard for 433 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: them to do what's necessary to change these situations. And 434 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: this is true in some other cities as well. You 435 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: could say it's happening on what is it Millennium Mile 436 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: in Chicago and New York City and Times Square. But 437 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: the people that made the bad decisions that led to 438 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: the decay and the flight from these areas, in addition 439 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: to the work from home reality and the changes of 440 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: COVID that have stayed with us, those people don't really 441 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: want to because if they were to change their directives 442 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: and their policies at some level, it's an admission that 443 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: what they did in the first place to liberalize all 444 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: this stuff, to stop enforcing these laws, to allow fentinal 445 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: use in the open air. I mean, when you think 446 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: about this, and we've talked about it before here, the 447 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: moment that you say people can live on the street 448 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: without you know, they cannot be removed. They can live 449 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: on the street, they can camp on the street, you're 450 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: also saying that you're effectively legalizing public urination, defecation, and 451 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: you're also going to at the same time put a, 452 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: if not legalization, a decriminalization of drugs like fentanyl and 453 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: very very serious drugs. So you're creating these open air 454 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: drug markets with people that are severely addicted, who are 455 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: living in filth, and who are going to need their 456 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: to feed their drug habit by breaking the law and 457 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: stealing things and committing crimes in addition to having extreme 458 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: mental illness that goes unaddressed because they living on the streets. 459 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: If you were trying to concoct a potion to destroy 460 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: the downtowns of any city, it's hard to oh, and 461 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: then just stop enforcing the criminal lawtogether, right then, just 462 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: say you know, okay, I mean, so the guy at 463 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: Whole Food threatened you with a machete after he came 464 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: out of the bathroom naked, Like, let's give him another chance. 465 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: We don't want to come down too hard on this individual. 466 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: If you were trying to destroy these places, this would 467 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: be a brilliant plan. And this is what the Democrats 468 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: have done in city after city. And I think there's 469 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: this intransigence because they don't want to say, okay, fine, 470 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: Republicans were right, so they keep they have up to 471 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: this point, kept doubling down. I do think though, maybe 472 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 2: it's starting to your point about the commercial real estate collapse, 473 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: and you know, these places could start to look like 474 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: they're on the brink of heading toward a Detroit situation, 475 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: which was a city you know once the greatest jewel 476 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: of the mid wae as tremendous wealth and then rapid 477 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: deterioration and despair and violence. Right, so that can happen 478 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: in other places. It's amazing. You know Ted Wheeler, do 479 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: you see he he was on with with Lawrence last 480 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: night on Fox, Lawrence Jones, and he's trying to say, oh, well, 481 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: crime is you know, violent crime is so low where 482 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: we are. What about all the other crime? Ted, what 483 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: about theft and property destruction and vandalism and drug use 484 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: and drug selling. These places have effectively legalized crime and 485 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: we're seeing the results of it. 486 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: And by the way, it may be low, but it's 487 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: way higher than it used to be. Plus Win, for instance, 488 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: averaged twenty murders a year for most of the twenty 489 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: first century, and then in the wake of the BLM 490 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: protests its spiked, I believe up to nearly eighty. 491 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: Now. 492 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what it's on Pace two here, but 493 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: most places, if you quadrupled the murder rate, which is 494 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: what for instance, Portland did, it's a big deal. It 495 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: may still be low murder rate compared to Chicago, or 496 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: compared to Hughes Dinner Atlanta. 497 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how it. 498 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: Will compare to those cities, but yes, like the commercial 499 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: real estate, I just want all of you to put 500 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: it in your head and think about it. It's a 501 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: potential disaster. 502 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you're just you're talking about Portland again for 503 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: a second. Here they had I just pulled up the statistic. 504 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, according here to Oregon Live, police 505 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: logged thirteen hundred shootings. Yeah, thirteen hundred shootings in Portland. 506 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't even know how that's how that's possible. That 507 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: sounds like that's not even theoretically a capability. But you know, 508 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: as of July in twenty twenty two, there were six 509 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy So these are the numbers we're talking about. Now. 510 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: You could say, well, there's only eighty homicides or something. Yeah, 511 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: but people are shooting off a lot of guns at 512 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: each other. What is going on here? But they don't 513 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: they don't want to face the reality, which is the destruction. 514 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: That's where this is played in some ways. That's the 515 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: best way to describe this. When I read some of 516 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: the stats in some of these cities, places I've been 517 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: and seen and been in the downtowns, I think the 518 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: numbers have to be wrong and I'm gonna have to 519 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: issue a correction, but they're not. That's really where. 520 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: Things are right now. And that's maders of Quadruple. It's 521 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: not good. And San Francisco again, this commercial real estate thing. 522 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: Nobody's talking about it. I just want all of you, 523 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: in the back of your minds to be thinking about 524 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: it as they are potentially going to raise rates another 525 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: quarter point. A lot of these businesses that own these 526 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: commercial buildings, they bought them at two and three percent interest. 527 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: The math doesn't work at five and a half. 528 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: What happens I was gonna say, what happens with some 529 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: of these buildings play if they they're you're talking about 530 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: an office building. There's a lot of debt involved, you know, 531 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: the real estate developers or the real estate you know, 532 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: ownership firms, a lot of debt involved. What happens if 533 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: it becomes clear that these buildings are worth a fraction 534 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: of what they used to be. So now the company 535 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: is underwater and the banks are tightening their lending, and 536 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: any money they would give out is at double the 537 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: mortgage rate that they could have expected, especially for commercial 538 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: a few years ago. Now the banks say sorry, we're 539 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: not gonna We're gonna have to call it. We can 540 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: We're not going to extend your loan on this when 541 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: we can't. You know, we're not gonna. Then you get 542 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: into some trouble real fast. 543 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: You know, I'm telling you the next year is going 544 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: to be a bloodbath for commercial real estate, and nobody's 545 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: talking about it. 546 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: Let's take a moment to think about the work being 547 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: done at the Preborn Network of Clinics. The name Preborn 548 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: denotes exactly what they focus on, the lives of unborn 549 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: children who are at risk of abortion. 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That's preborn dot com. 568 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: Slash Buck sponsored by Preborn. 569 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: From the front lines of Truth Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 570 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: Ooh hopme back in now number two Tuesday edition Clay 571 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging 572 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: out with us. Buck is down in Nashville for the 573 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: rest of the week. I am preparing to go out 574 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: and humiliate myself on a golf course in a little 575 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 3: over two hours from now. We will see how all 576 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: of that shakes out. We've had a lot of fun 577 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: with you in the first hour so far. Eight hundred 578 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: and two two two eight a two. Several of you 579 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: waiting to weigh in. We'll get to some of those 580 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: calls here in this hour, so if you are chilling 581 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: with us right now, we will get to you. But 582 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: interesting data points that came out, and with the requisite. 583 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Hey, these are polls. 584 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: We know that polls can be inaccurate all of those 585 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: different aspects. Buck We obviously have been talking a lot 586 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: about the Republican race and the twenty twenty four race. 587 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: According to CBS. I don't even know if you saw this. 588 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: I'll give you a chance to guess. What percentage, according 589 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: to CBS of Republican voters are only considering voting for 590 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: Trump in this primary, thirty twenty four percent according to CBS. 591 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: Freakyod to the Buckster, Yeah, all right, here's the other question, 592 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: which percent? What percent say that they are not considering 593 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: voting for Trump at all in the Republican primary. They 594 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 3: will not consider Trump, will not vote for him as 595 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: the nominee, right, not for the race itself, but in 596 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: the primary fifteen percent, twenty seven percent. 597 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: Higher than I thought. 598 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: So basically, according to this there are roughly even numbers 599 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: of people who are voting in the Republican primary who 600 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: say they are both only for Trump and will not 601 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: consider voting for Trump at all. This is just in 602 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: the Republican primary, forty nine percent say Buck that they 603 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: are open to Trump and or any other candidate. Okay, 604 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: so twenty seven percent out on Trump, twenty four percent 605 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: only Trump. That's fifty one percent of the Republican electorate, 606 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: and then the other half basically saying, hey, I'm open 607 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: to Trump, but I'm also considering other candidates. This strikes 608 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: me as roughly accurate. Based on when I talk to people, 609 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: I would say around a quarter of people are like, 610 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: it's Trump or nobody, Around a quarter or like, I 611 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 3: absolutely positively will not vote for Trump, but I'll vote 612 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: for somebody else. And about half of you are saying, hey, 613 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: I kind of want to see how this is going 614 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: to play out. Does that strike you, Buck, based on 615 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: your interactions with people, as roughly accurate of what you 616 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: would assess the marketplace. 617 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: You know, there's reading the tea leaves and there's reading 618 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: the call screen, and based upon what we get on 619 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: this show in terms of the calls, I think that 620 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: is about right. I think we get something along those lines, 621 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: which is, I know it's very non scientific polling, but 622 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: based on who calls in and what their feelings are 623 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: about the primary at this point in time. Yeah, I 624 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: think we got a quarter to a third, or just like, 625 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: look it has to be Trump and something like a 626 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: quarter to a third, or like, I really don't think 627 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: it should be Trump. And then there's the people who 628 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: are like, let's see, there's a big middle of let's 629 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: see okay. 630 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 3: And then I want to hit you with two other 631 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 3: polls that are out today. Nevada, which is a state 632 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: that should be in play, was the only state to 633 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: flip from a Democrat governor to a Republican governor incumbent 634 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: losing the governor Democrat Systillac I think, lost to Lombardo 635 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: in the state of Nevada. 636 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: So Nevada should be in play relatively. 637 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: Close race in twenty twenty one of those super tight 638 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 3: places Biden, according to the most reliable polster in Nevada, 639 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 3: this guy has pretty much nailed everything. Biden is eight 640 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: points above Trump in the state of Nevada right now 641 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 3: at forty eight to forty for Biden versus DeSantis, Biden 642 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: is up one point, so by forty three to forty two. 643 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: And if you're out there and you're saying, okay, what's 644 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: the difference here? 645 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 2: It is with independence, And we're gonna keep. 646 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: Slamming this because this is the election in twenty four 647 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 3: with independence, Trump is trailing Biden by twelve points. Independent 648 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 3: voters favor Biden forty eight to thirty six in Nevada 649 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: over Trump Biden versus DeSantis, DeSantis wins independent voters. That 650 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 3: is how he basically is even right now. And I'm 651 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: gonna hit you with Georgia as well. But here's the 652 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 3: big question. DeSantis is unquestionably better right now with independence, 653 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: buck could he maintain that advantage? Or is this because 654 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: the left in this country hasn't gone to war as 655 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: much with DeSantis as they have with Trump, and so 656 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 3: DeSantis is the more less defined candidate and they will 657 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: tear him down like they have torn Trump down. I 658 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: think that's a really intriguing question that nobody knows the answer. 659 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 2: How would you assess that right now? I remember when 660 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't even it wasn't even about the primary, but 661 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: it was just big in the national conversation, how popular 662 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: DeSantis was as a governor because of COVID and the 663 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: COVID response, the people who moved to Florida and they 664 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: started to run those DeSantis is worse than Trump, remember that, 665 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 2: worse than Trump, Scarier than Trump. And that's amazing because Trump, 666 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: we were told by those same media outlets, was a 667 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: once in a lifetime threat to our democracy, and somehow 668 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: they started to set the groundwork for Actually, Ron dessentis 669 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 2: even scarier. So they're wh is that there's the he 670 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: hasn't gone up against and he's obviously still not a candidate, 671 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: which we have to keep in mind here, but DeSantis 672 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: has not had the full force of the media trying 673 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: to destroy him as a presidential candidate. They have tried 674 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 2: as a gubernatorial well goobernatorial candidate, really more so as 675 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: a governor. So I think that's a component of it. 676 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: I also think that Trump is going to and the 677 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 2: people around him. Look, the more I talk to folks, 678 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: the more that some of the senior campaign advisors around Trump, 679 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm told are are seasoned and get it these days 680 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: and understand what has to be done. They understand, you 681 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: gotta win this one. There can't be any oh no, 682 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: we won this one too. If you didn't win, or 683 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 2: you know, if there was a you know, he's got 684 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: to win the White House in twenty twenty four or else. 685 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: This is going to be a damage not just to 686 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: the brand, but I think to the whole movement that 687 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: was built around Trump and Trump Isn't they see it? 688 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 2: They get it, and what I'm told is that they 689 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: understand there has to be a message from Trump that 690 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 2: is not only national in the broadest sense of growth, 691 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: you know, the economy being better and things being more 692 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: sane and less left wing lunacy, but also what is 693 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: a specific pitch for the independent voters Because one percent 694 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: of the people who show up in twenty twenty four 695 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: are going to decide who wins this thing. That's just 696 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 2: the reality of it that we face by the numbers. 697 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: And so I think Trump is going to focus in 698 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: on that. I think you'll see even before the primary 699 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: is over, He's going to start to make moves that 700 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 2: look more like it's toward the center. 701 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: You pointed out, and I think it's true. Trump is 702 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: actually running to the left of DeSantis right now, particularly 703 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: on abortion in particular. Okay, another stat and by the way, 704 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 3: this is why I also think it's super smart of 705 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 3: Trump to take the offer from CNN and do the 706 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 3: live town hall. Heck, if MSNBC would offer Trump a 707 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: live town hall, I'd be kind of inclined to do 708 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 3: it as long as it's live. Not take George This 709 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: is the state that to me, of all the states 710 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: that went against Trump, I think Georgia was the most 711 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 3: disappointing to me personally, because if you look at the map, 712 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: the South solidly supported Trump except for teny eleven thousand 713 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: votes in Georgia. Georgia is still a challenge. Remember Trump 714 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: came out and went and endorsed against Brian Kemp, and 715 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 3: then Brian Kemp smoked Stacy Abrams even without Trump's support, 716 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: in fact, the opposite of his support, and the one 717 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: guy and I went and campaigned as hard as I could, 718 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 3: the guy that Trump was most steadfast behind Herschel Walker. 719 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 3: He lost to Reverend Rafael Warnock. And I went and 720 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 3: I busted my ass. You guys know this for Walker. 721 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: I spoke at his rallies, I did everything I could, 722 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: and he couldn't get over that hurdle lost in the runoff. 723 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 3: Here is the poll coming out today buck from the 724 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: Atlanta Journal Constitution. Ron DeSantis five point lead over Joe 725 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 3: Biden in Georgia outside the margin of error. This would 726 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: be a flip, right, gotta win Georgia, whoever the nominee is. 727 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 3: If you don't win Georgia, you're not gonna win the election. 728 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: In twenty four DeSantis up five points on Joe Biden, 729 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 3: Trump down one, down one right now, according to the 730 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: Atlanta Journal Constitution, that is a six point difference between 731 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: who's voting in Georgia. 732 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 2: Why does it happen? 733 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 3: DeSantis does better than Trump with independence and with voters. 734 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 3: This is interesting in Georgia over the age of sixty five. 735 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 3: All right, this is the Atlanta Journal Constitution poll. DeSantis 736 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: running six points better in Georgia than Biden. Now, if 737 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: you can't win Georgia, this is why I said my 738 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: advice to Trump. If he said, Clay Travis, you get 739 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 3: to pick my VP, I would say, apologize. 740 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: To Brian Kemp. Put him on your ticket as the VP. 741 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 3: Take Georgia off the board for Democrats, because you gotta 742 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: win Georgia. 743 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: Georgia is the state. 744 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: You win Georgia, then you can go Look, could you 745 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: flip Nevada? Could you flip back Arizona? Can you win 746 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 3: one of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan? And then the big ten states, 747 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: but Georgia is the one you have to have. But 748 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 3: this is a disposit. Again, I understand it's a poll, 749 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 3: but DeSantis running six points better in Georgia. Trump has 750 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: got real issues in Georgia. To me go, put Brian 751 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: Kemp on the ticket. Apologize to Peach state voters twice. 752 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 3: Now we have lost and I say we as the 753 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: Republicans lost the runoffs, lost. 754 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: Control because of the right that weren't the right Republican 755 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 2: for Georgia. That's what happened two of them. 756 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 3: That's right, We're not has won twice now when he 757 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 3: should have lost both times, and John Ossa also won. 758 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 2: The question is did we learn the lesson and do 759 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: we want to win? I mean, ultimately this is going 760 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: to come down to do we want to win these places? 761 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: Because we've had enough losses that status quo for the 762 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: GOP in these battlegrounds ain't going to cut it. Status 763 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: quo is not going to get it done. Now that 764 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I'm saying, oh well, it has to be 765 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 2: trumpward has to be to say it. It doesn't mean that. 766 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 2: It just means what is the plan and what is 767 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: the pathway? Because running the twenty twenty two playbook or 768 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty playbook in these same places, based on 769 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: all the data you can see, is going to come 770 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 2: up short. The good news is we've got you know, 771 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 2: I got some part of the math in my head 772 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: eighteen months before this is actually decided, and so that's 773 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: plenty of time to put in place the kinds of 774 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: not only strategy when it comes to messaging, but also 775 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: the ground game that is necessary. One thing that was 776 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: really and anyone were saying, well, what kind of stuff 777 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about? When Trump came out after twenty twenty 778 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: two and said, we've got to do ballot harvesting where 779 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 2: it's legal, We've got to do early voting wherever we can. 780 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. You're putting 781 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: that in place, and you're messaging to you know, low 782 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: propensity voters in key states, independent and swing voters in 783 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: key states. That's how you actually win an election doing 784 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 2: this stuff that's really amusing and fun. Whether it's DeSantis, 785 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: you know, fly kicking Disney in the face, or you know, 786 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: Trump making fun of CNN and it's terrible ratings, that's 787 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: amusing to us. But those kinds of things aren't going 788 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: to win elections, and we need to understand that now. 789 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 3: And everybody needs to study what Brian kimp did, because 790 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: remember Stacy Abrams ran a well funded Darling of the 791 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: left campaign. She raised money hand over fist she got. 792 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: I remember the numbers kicked. Do you remember the number 793 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 2: sci it was? I remember, I think you told me 794 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't like one hundred million dollars in that Senate 795 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 2: race or something that they Governor's race and the Senate 796 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 2: race too. 797 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 3: I mean, they poured money in, but they managed to 798 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 3: tie Herschel, and obviously Herschel's past life, you know, he 799 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: had issues that they bludgeoned him with, which factored in. 800 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 3: You know, suburban moms in Gwinnett County felt more comfortable 801 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 3: with the Reverend Rafaeld Warnock than they did with Herschel Walker. 802 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm just telling y'all, I worked as hard as I 803 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 3: could to get Herschel to win, and we couldn't do it. 804 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell everybody I knew my number. I hate. 805 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: I never want to overstate the number when it comes 806 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: to something like this. Warnock's campaign here, according to Open Secrets, 807 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars. Yeah, the last time 808 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: around one hundred and fifty million dollars raised for a 809 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: Senate seat. Okay, this is what we are up again. 810 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 2: So when we talk about Fetterman is you know, incapable 811 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: and Biden's too old. They don't care. 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