WEBVTT - Need A 4th?! Ep. 1 with Joel Dahmen 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.559 So I think we can all agree that Echo golf 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.760 shoes changed the game. When Fred couples rolled up wearing 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.840 them without socks, it spoke to their comfort and just 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.520 sort of that that effortless cool. But you have an 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.000 Arnold Palmer story I want to hear. Right, Let's have 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.079 I ever told you about my last visit with Arnold. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.520 I saw Arnold. I would like to thank no reporters 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.400 for Arnold more than I did when he was in 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.919 his eighties. My last visit with him was in Latrobe, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.280 and I drove there wearing these pathetic birken stocks when 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.240 I got always I'll just wear my shoes when I 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.040 get there. But when I got there, all I had 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.280 was my Echo golf shoes. And Arnold's really formal, and 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.600 I'm going into his office with my cleaned up Echo 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.080 golf shoes and armoms like checking me out, and he's nodding, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:39.800 and I said, Arnold, you're looking at my socks and 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.159 these arms like, no, I'm looking at your shoes. And 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.440 then Arnold talked about all the different shoes he wore, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.720 and no questioner, Arnold Doug the Echo shoe. I love 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.279 the Echo show. I know you do too, Uh, it's 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:55.480 a great shoe sales resistant. If it's good enough for 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.720 Arnold Palmer and Fred Couples, it's good enough for the 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.840 rest of you. So go to Echo dot com and um, 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.720 you can find one that fits that you like that 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.760 people will stare at, like Arnie. So back to need 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:14.280 a fourth, Jeff, I called you, Jeff, Yes, absolutely, m hmm. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.000 Golf is the thing on anything in golf that doesn't change, 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.200 the only thing that changes the best in playing? Does 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.280 this man of one time winner on the PGA Tour. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:30.360 The point Alan is he didn't go Hollywood. You need 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:38.240 a fourth? This is fun. So let's say you're probably 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.200 a better guitar player than I am a golfer. I 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.480 think it's the reason so many athletes across sports. I 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.240 think he's the greatest athlete they ever saw. I would 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.600 go to the range and I would try to hit 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.480 you know, a couple of hundred one irons, and I 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.520 would try to hit him as high and as hard 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:06.960 as I could. Great athletes do leave a legacies. You're 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.880 kind only the one I can share. Not get myself 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.760 in trouble. Oh my god, this is a dangerous grow 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:21.679 their Welcome back to Anita fourth. This is Alan Schipnak. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.480 This is the podcast where myself, Michael Bamberger, and US 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.160 Open champion Jeff Ogilvie take turn surprising each other with 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:34.440 mystery guests. Uh. Today's is an active PG tour player. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.880 He's from the great state of Washington, not Fred Couples. Uh. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:47.840 He contended at this year's US Open until the bitter end. Unfortunately, 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.680 we saw a little too much of him at this 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:55.360 year's Phoenix Open, a little too much of him. Uh. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.520 I'm making this easy, guys. He is known for is fun, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:06.840 quirky chemistry with his long time caddy. All Right, forget it, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:12.720 Joel David, come on down and show yourself. What's happened. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.120 How we doing, guys? This is fun. So you look 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.080 a little nervous. I can see you're scanning from face 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.840 to face on Yeah. This is uh, Jeff, are you 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.920 back in Australia, Back in Australia. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.840 have no idea what time would be there, but it's uh, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.280 it's in the morning. It's so good tomorrow. It's like 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.440 it's like time travel. And Michael, where are you? Joel? 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.120 I mean I'm in San Diego and Uh, I know 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:40.920 you don't know me, but you you made a big 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.000 impression on me. The first time I saw you in person. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.560 It was at the Washington event and it was the 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.800 one that uh that Mullinari Mulinari one, and I was 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.640 following you. I think I was drawn to the floppy 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.880 hat and there were and I don't remember the ins 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.720 and outs of it, but you got the red ass 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.160 because there was a cheating thing going on and we're 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.360 going to get to the bottom of it. That's the headline, 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.280 and I don't know the story behind it, but I 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.840 remember being impressed. Uh yeah, that that did happen. It 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.360 was I played with Tiger on Saturday, so it was 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.320 already like the biggest move of my career at the time. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.520 It's my second year on tour. I'm just trying to 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.359 find my way, really and then Sunday happens on the 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.480 tenth hole, and uh yeah, that was that was still 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.360 probably the biggest point of my golf career. Wait does 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.919 that come up? Do you guys talk about that with 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:33.240 you all the time? Like, uh so, Maxi Holm I 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.800 had his big baby shower last night, and so you know, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.480 he's got a bunch of people over his house. We're 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.440 having a grand old time and it comes up. I 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.440 mean it is, it is quite often. I actually caddied 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.440 for Brandon Harkins three weeks ago now and in Boise 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.920 at the corn Ferry Finals event. So we're out playing 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.960 a practice and the parents come out on Tuesday afternoon. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.880 We'repared with son kang no way, what are the odds 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.920 of that? Like, it's uh that the tours really kept 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.400 a separate uh, you know, we played out the same 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.000 category for a while, never even like in the same 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.880 morning and afternoon went like we were always opposite waves, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.039 not even close to each other. So we've only played 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.760 together once since then, and it's been fine. We were 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.840 it wasn't like we were friends before. It's likely over. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.800 We didn't know who each other was really before and 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.159 it's been fine. Afterwards. I I raked his bunker and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.600 I cleaned his ball and told him good shots, so 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.480 it was all it's all good. That's so commendable. I mean, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:27.840 that's one thing I want to ask you about, was 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.080 your experience caddying, because Brandon, mean one of your when 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.720 you're great friends, it's it's a big moment in his career. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.000 You have some knowhow, but playing a caddy is not 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.680 the same. So what was experience like being on the 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.720 other side of the strap. Yeah, caddying is so hard. One. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.880 I'm almost thirty five. I'm a professional athlete, is what 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.200 you know? I guess technically I'm a professional athlete. I'm 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.080 suppose to be in the prime of my career and I, uh, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.640 it's hard to carry that bag. You know, I had 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.240 the full staff bag. It was as light as it 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.159 could possibly be. Uh, and it was still it was 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.039 still tough. But um sell bishally, I want to back 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.400 on the PGA tour. Um. You know, he finished twenty 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.840 six in the regular season. I just missed out. I'm 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.880 actually going over to his house for dinner tonight. I 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.800 just got back in. So we're super close, and I was, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.640 you know, he called me Sunday night and he's like, hey, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.400 can I you know, I can can can? Can Can 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.839 I come up? And caddy, I said, yeah, sure, um, 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.359 anything I can do to help, But it's so hard 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.919 to help in like a one week's time. It's like 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.520 you're not really gonna work on the golf swing. You're 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.320 just trying to make him happy and stay out of 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.800 his way. Really for the most part. But now we're 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.360 in boys, you're also at elevations. We're playing five to 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.120 ten percent pinning on the heat. I haven't carried a 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.920 book and done a yard is in five years. Gino 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.719 is a great caddy. He takes care of all that stuff. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.520 So now he's relying on me to do the numbers. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.440 I am panicking about that. I'm always thinking about the 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.760 next shot, like you know where the pin is and 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.280 all the slopes and everything you possibly do, and like 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.960 it's it's it's fast. It is really fast out there, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.039 and then you're trying to make sure you get the pin. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.520 You're just trying to be in the way, trying to 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.800 clean the ball. Like it was a It was a 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:05.680 new found respect again. I've I've I think I treat 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.640 caddies pretty well. I would have a great relationship with 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.200 my with with Gena. He's my best friend. But I 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.800 can still kind of be a butt head out there 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.880 at times, and so I'm gonna be a lot gentler 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.920 to too Geno going forward, for sure, do you think 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.560 we'd all be better players if we had to caddy 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.520 for someone once and once every now and then. I 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.960 said that quote in an interview. I learned someone else. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.000 They said every good player should caddy one time for 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.560 another good player. Um, in a big event, I think 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.040 it's so hard. And you know, does he want to 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.400 hit a little pitching wedge or a big gap? Which, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.960 like what's he feeling keeping track of the wind? Like? 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:41.880 Then he called in for a read and you're like, 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.000 do you like? He says it's a cup out and 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.520 I'm only on the edge, Like, do I give him 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.440 like a ball and a half to split the difference? Right? 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.080 It really tell him what I feel? Uh? It is 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.120 it's it's hard work, and um, I'm glad I'm on 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.400 the playing side of it for now. For sure. Did 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:01.720 you carry the umbrella? No, no one rella. We carried 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.040 like four balls in the bag. He actually didn't even 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.640 put a water in the bag because he would chug 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.160 it on the tea box and throw it in the garbage. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.240 So I didn't have to carry an extra water like 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.000 it was. It was pretty funny. Well, he didn't have 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.800 anything extra in there. That is such an insightful common 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.720 jep because in my experience, guys will carry the umbrella 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.640 when there's a zero point zero chance of rain. Uh 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.440 So it depends on the boss. It does depends on 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.400 the boss. It's all about the player. Like if the 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.720 if the boss is um he's a tough one, you 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.120 carry the umbrella un percent of the time. But most players, 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:34.960 I think, leave the caddy. It's like your choice. But 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:39.280 if we get stuck with that one, you're in. It 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.559 was a congree a couple of years ago, JT Post 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.600 and famously got caught in the rain. There was zero 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.520 cent chance and Aaron Fleaner uh did not have it 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.760 and he was soaking wet and cleaners. He's one of 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.439 my favorite people. But he's been known to maybe kind 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.280 of corner or two out there, and he's carried the 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.079 umbrella every round since then. So how how can a 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.760 caddy really eat a green for a player when he 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.240 can't really know how hard the player wants to strike 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.600 the putt? Yeah, that's fair. I mean, sometimes you know, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.760 let's say you're always trying to hit it twelve inches 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.040 or seventeen ins the whole or somewhere in that range. Like, 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.200 but sometimes you're gonn hit a softer and sometimes you're 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.319 just gonna have harder And player doesn't always know what 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.520 they're gonna do to be honest. I mean we try 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.319 to do things, but uh that that part is really difficult. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.800 I think that comes with a lot of time. Like 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.240 Gino knows the downhillers are going to be hit a 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.320 lot softer obviously, but he's he's we've been together for 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.440 eight years, like he can. That's when you have you know, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.960 you can really you know, kind of figure out what 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.760 your player does and exactly you know what what was 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.440 tendencies are as well. So um for a one off gig, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:48.680 I think he was just trying to have a buddy 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.920 on the bag and help out and unfortunately we actually 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.400 missed a cup by one. But that's how it goes. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.560 Is there one? Is there one decision that that you 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:02.440 helped him make that you still regret to of him? 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:07.320 We were uh first round, we're on the I guess 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.400 it was our like thirteen or fourteen told. But he 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:10.959 has like a he has a wedge to a back pin. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.800 If you go along, it's auto bogie and could be 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.240 double and he wanted to chip a pitching wedge back 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.319 there to skip it up the slope. And I'm like, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.160 if this flies a little too far at skipping into 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.040 the back bunker, No, chance. So I talked him into 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.440 his his gap wedge, which was a perfect number, I thought, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.240 but he didn't. He want to make sure he got 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:32.839 it on top. But it's a small little area and 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.240 he kind of goosted a little bit and one hopped 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.560 over to the back bunker and plugged, and then he 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.040 left that one in the bunker and he got that 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.680 one up and down, thankfully for Bogey. But there I 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.520 could have even like lied to him aout a number 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.280 at that point, give him three yards shorter to hit 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.360 it into, because you just know that long is so bad. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.480 So I should have probably just let him hit his 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.400 pitching wedge and like skip it in there, because that's 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.320 what he kind of wanted. And I was protecting Long 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.280 and um and then in the second round we're going 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.080 for part five, and I said Long was good to 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.280 a back bunker, like his three would go over his 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:03.559 too and would kind of come up short, and I 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.400 thought it was easier if he hit it over the green, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.439 so I kind of talked him into a three wood, 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.520 and it was not an easy bunker shot where if 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.000 you would have hit his two iron short, he probably 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.320 could have got up and down. So those two I 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.280 feel kind of crappy about I talked him into we 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.920 had to He had to make two birdies coming in 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.480 the last four. See how we just did the heat 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.960 and wheat thing. That's his problem, not mine. Now. Uh, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.760 we needed too of our last four and one was 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.840 drivable and he wanted three would again. I didn't want 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.360 to go along, so I talked to me to two iron. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:30.720 But he didn't hit a great two iron and went 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.520 into a bunker that was forty yard shorts and I 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.560 was dead there. And um, just a couple of things. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.200 But I don't know, like could another caddy. Maybe another 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.160 caddy wouldn't have helped him in a couple of other spots, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.040 So I don't know. I mostly try to stay out 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.680 of the way and just walk fast. But um, it's 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.280 it's so much work, and it's such a hot job. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:55.360 It's such a hot job. I imagine. Yeah, yeah, I control. Yeah, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.840 my man used to do that. I'm squirrel who Ketty 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.160 felt me for a really long time. Brilliant Ketty, he 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.680 used to I'm convinced that I would never have any proof. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.280 He would never tell me, but he used to tell 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.360 me the yardage to pick the club. He wanted me 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.960 to pick, like you say, lying about the yardage, he 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.000 absolutely would tell me a number. He if he wanted 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:12.480 me to hit seven, he would give me a number 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.199 where I would never hit six. He would just give 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.600 me a different number, So I would pick seven every time. Um. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.480 And like you said, like one week, catting for a 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.480 guy for one week would be really difficult. Caddy for 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.160 a guy for years and years and years. You become 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.560 one golfer. It's one organism. So you kind of know 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.679 how to read putts for him, and you know what 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.120 he's thinking. You know, you could probably predict when. You 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.600 could predict when I was going to hit the wrong 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.240 club just by my mood walking off the previous green. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.840 You know you know you're gonna him at the pin 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.640 all of a sudden. It's a bad idea. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.880 tough jump for one week. Speaking of Squirrel, he's an 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.320 all time caddy. I only was around with him a 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.960 couple of events. I think I played with him once. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.240 He had looked Donald and Hilton Head and he was great. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.840 But there's an absolutely, maybe a top five all time 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.720 story that he caddied for you and he answered the 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.080 phone on a T box. Could you you want to 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:05.080 tell that story. It is, it is unbelievable, it's mostly true. Um, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.080 well tell a little bit to make it well. He 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.240 tells it the best, especially after a bottle red but 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:16.800 um tenth at Riviera and we all know the whole um. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.480 And this is back when it was a fifty fifty call. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.880 I mean most guys had driven now or three would 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.560 go for the green. But back then it was sort 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.400 of this is I don't know, mid two thousand's half 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.440 the field with hit three or four iron laid up 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.319 and half of field with hit driver and squirrel was 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.040 adamant old school caddy. You laid up Tennant River area. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.439 You just laid up your three on at the bunker 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:35.760 wedge on the green, three on at the bunk at 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.080 wedge of the green. And like it was gradually over 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.079 a few years, because we played the every year. Gradually, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.080 I'm like Driver, He's like, no three on And I 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:43.960 was getting more and more and more like I wanted 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.199 to go for the green. And finally I doubled nine 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.080 or something walk on too Tennants. Like I met Driver today, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.480 there's no three eye over there. I'm like, no, i'mitting Driver. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.440 He goes, well, you're wrong, it's a three eye over there. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.360 I'm like, get out of the way. I'mitting driver, hit driver, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:01.440 make double. So we get to the eleventh tea, which 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.760 is a really small, intimate little tea at Riviera. The 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.040 crowd or on top of you, I mean, they can 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.400 hear your whole conversations the tiny little area. And this 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.199 was back when we had like the KNOCKI of well, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.680 everybody else had probably moved to blackberries and iPhones, but 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.920 he still had the old Knokia phone that had the 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.720 crazy old school ring tone with the aerial I think 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.000 you pulled up when you are when you answer the phone. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.760 And it was ringing in his bag all the time. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.640 He wasn't putting it on silent. It was ringing all 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.480 the time. But usually it was a practice round or 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.800 you didn't really notice. This was in the tournament and 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.960 his phone goes off right when I'm over the ball 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.480 um and he and he unzips the bag quietly as 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.120 squirrel do it, just gets it out and answers the phone, look, no, no, no, 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.320 sorry mon cause okay, bye, hangs it up, puts in 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.200 the bag and I just looked straight at him with 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.600 I don't know, there's a hundred two other people standing there. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.360 I'm like, what are you doing answering the phone? Like 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.040 we're playing a golf tourn it? What are you doing? 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.040 He goes, oh yeah, and who was that? Anyway? Who 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.960 are you answering the phone too? You guys? That was 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.800 my mom. She said no one should hit driver on 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:08.120 the tenth Riviera. I just couldn't stuff. He just kidding 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.640 me from the most angry man, just a happy, laughing man. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.120 It was incredible, just one a moment. Yeah, and it's 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.160 pretty much old truth. Well, thank you for listening to 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.480 need a fourth podcast. We're going to conclude it now 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.760 because right I can't talk that this this podcast over. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.320 That's unbelievable. Yeah, the story has been going ever since. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.360 So good. I love that one. All Right, we'll take 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:36.480 us inside of the Maxi Homa uh baby shower because 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.440 this this must have been one of the tour events, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.840 the social gathering of the season. Let's hear about it. It 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.440 It was. It was a pretty big time. So uh. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.520 He bought a new house recently. Um, it's nice as 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:52.000 you would imagine. Uh, And he was kind of one 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.280 of the first parties he's kind of really had I 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.320 guess he's he typically goes off site at a house 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.760 to party. I would say, but uh, a lot of people, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.080 um kind of I wouldn't say who's hooper se but 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.080 there was there were some heavy hitters there and uh, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:07.880 just a great time it was. It was a lot 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.720 of young people. Um, you know it kind of knew 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.200 most of them, but it's just it was. He he 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.440 threw it himself, which is one of the cooler things 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.680 that he threw the baby shower for his wife. Um, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.120 and made a co ed deal, which is a ton 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.240 of fun. Um hung out with Colton Nose there most 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:25.960 of the time him. You know, you can hear a 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.960 story after story from that guy. Um, it was. It 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.480 was just a lot of fun there was. He had 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.720 a bartender set up so that was good. Plenty of food, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.240 he had a chef cooking and uh we actually were 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.960 like really well behaved for what kind of could have happened. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.760 We're only there for three or four hours and um 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.400 I was home at eight o'clock. Uh and um not 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.440 too hungover today. So it was actually really fun. It 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.840 was great. I mean, when you get a bunch of 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.080 tour guys together, do you do you wind up chipping 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:55.920 in the backyard, like how how does that play out? 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.280 It was one of those things. So yeah, he were 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.000 his me, Coult nosed and Max in the group chat 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.520 in the morning and Colt's like, hey, Joel, do you 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.080 want a pregame this thing? And I'm like sure. So 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.520 we go out to lunch with our wives or his 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.680 his soon to be wife and have some cocktails wherever. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.800 We were kind of joking. He's like, are we gonna 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.840 play beer pong at this thing? And uh, Max just 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.240 said yeah yeah, but like later, it's kind of a 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:25.040 classy deal. So I run to Walmart and I grab 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.920 a six ft footable table, red solo cups, beer pong 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.800 balls in a case of beer, and we show up 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.520 a little bit later than most people, and we walk 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.520 into this thing with our table, beer pong balls and 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.240 the whole deal. And we walk in immediately like the 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.560 music stops. Everyone looks at us because we're slightly underdressed 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:50.359 and we're carrying beer pong supplies, and he's like, oh shit, guys, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.320 put in the garage. We can do with this later 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.000 because we want to keep it classy for a while. 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.280 So um, we we were going to turn that one 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.200 up and kind of right about that time when it 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:00.960 could have turned the corner. Are a lot of us 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.439 probably realize it's a terrible idea. So we we all 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.440 kind of went home and all of that is still 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.200 in his garage so that we'll save that for next time. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.400 But yeah, he's got a little chipn area back, he's 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.280 got that stuff. We we just kind of sat inside. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.359 We watch the LSU Florida State game, which is great, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.920 and we watched the Ciro's tennis match, which is fun. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.719 And just guys, you know, all the girls are one 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.080 it's like middle school. The girls on one side talking 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.239 about babies and their stuff and all the guys are 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.480 telling tall tales and and watching sports. PGA to a 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.760 baby showers, I mean, how many baby shows have a bah? 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.600 Yeah exactly. I mean you can tell them Max. It's 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.959 definitely thrown by a on the you know, of the husband. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.280 But yeah, like my wife is having a baby shower 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.040 at the end of October and she's like, you have 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.399 to leave for the day, and I'm like, I have 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.720 a day off Saturday. I'm home in the fall like 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.960 it is. I'm gonna be nine o'clock kickoff. I'm gonna 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.520 be ready to roll and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.840 gonna have a day for sure. But Jeff, when you 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.560 were when you were based uh in Scottsdale, did did 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.240 your guys overlap a little bit and you and Joel 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:09.720