WEBVTT - Six Shocking Stories - Butt Bomb

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get into this

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<v Speaker 1>week's six shocking stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So our first one is called cut your fingernails Please.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see where this goes, because fingernails

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<v Speaker 2>gross me out really badly. So this woman and her

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<v Speaker 2>sexual partner were having sex. After they finished, she ended

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<v Speaker 2>up dying, and what they founded her autopsy was really surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they did the autopsy, and you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was a perfectly young person. They just didn't really understand

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with her. And when they took out her

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<v Speaker 1>uterus and vagina, so that's one of the organs that

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<v Speaker 1>we typically examine on every autop they took it out

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<v Speaker 1>and they saw this large laceration in the vaginal wall

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<v Speaker 1>that was very heemorrhagic and it looked like it was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a source of what the problem was. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they did the entire autopsy, they kind of had their suspicions.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did it in a specific way where they

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<v Speaker 1>examined the heart and the vessels that go into the

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<v Speaker 1>heart and come out of the heart under water, So

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<v Speaker 1>they put water in the chest cavity, and when they

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<v Speaker 1>opened up the heart and the vessels, there were lots

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<v Speaker 1>of air bubbles coming out, which is helpful in diagnosing

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<v Speaker 1>something called an air embolism. So what is an air

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<v Speaker 1>embolism exactly and are they common? So any they're not

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<v Speaker 1>very common, and any time you have an embolism, So

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<v Speaker 1>an embolism means that it's something that occurs inside of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the vessels and it could travel to the

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<v Speaker 1>heart and to the lungs, which is always dangerous. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably heard of pulmonary embolism. You've probably heard of

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<v Speaker 1>a fat embolism when we were talking about like bosuction

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<v Speaker 1>and those procedures like that, and an air embolism is

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's when air enters one part of

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<v Speaker 1>the cardiovascular system and it travels to the heart and lungs,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously, like when anything is in the circulatory system

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<v Speaker 1>that's not supposed to be there besides blood that's circulating

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<v Speaker 1>oxygen through your body, then it could be really bad

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<v Speaker 1>and it could end up causing death. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>they determined that she was getting having how could I

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<v Speaker 1>say this classy like foreplay for play with Digital penetration

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<v Speaker 1>very very hard and with fingers yes, okay, digit yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And the act of just pushing in and out so

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<v Speaker 1>fast was what caused the air to kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>into the vagina. But really the way that the air

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<v Speaker 1>got into the vascular system was because his fingernails were

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<v Speaker 1>so long that it caused a laceration and a tear

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<v Speaker 1>in the vaginal wall, which then put a tear into

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<v Speaker 1>one of the veins, and that's how the air ended

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<v Speaker 1>up getting up inside of there. I mean, if your

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<v Speaker 1>fingernails are that long that it's causing damage like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that is absolutely disgusting. I don't know, my fingernails are

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<v Speaker 1>like five inches long.

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<v Speaker 2>You have acrylic nails that are done like what I

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<v Speaker 2>guess when they were when they were doing the autopsy, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that something they go back and look at the

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<v Speaker 2>other person's fingernails. Well, it's it's part of the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they determined it was from.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's still so it's just a complete freak death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it. Air embolisms and women especially are most common

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<v Speaker 1>in the postpartum period, and that's because when you have

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<v Speaker 1>your placenta inside of your uterus right after you give birth,

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<v Speaker 1>when the placenta breaks off from the inside of the uterus,

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<v Speaker 1>it causes these open ended vessels, right, And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>that period for six weeks after you have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the reasons they tell you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be having sex because this has been documented to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in people because just the forceful pumping of a penis

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<v Speaker 1>and air up inside there can cause air to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the vascular system that way. So it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just really really rare for it to even happen then

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but there are documented cases of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean death by fingernail for play.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I never would have thought of something like this, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some dudes with some gnarly fingernails, just especially

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<v Speaker 1>at when you go get your food at take out

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Just it really grosses me out. You're you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you have a You shouldn't have a free

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<v Speaker 1>edge if you're a dude. I think, I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of weeks ago, we were talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like how men wearing sandals kind of skive us out,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't feel like people. I mean, the comments

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<v Speaker 2>were really mixed on that, with a lot of people agreeing,

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<v Speaker 2>but some people just telling us we were assholes basically.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think I'm thinking about this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like fingernails, when they're long, no matter if you're male

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<v Speaker 2>or female, it they're If they're not properly manicured and

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<v Speaker 2>they're dirt under them and they're long, it just skis

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<v Speaker 2>me out so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's also another another thing that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like if you and it, I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>women and men could stick their fingers inside of vaginas,

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<v Speaker 1>but if there's a lot of dirt and debris and

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria underneath of the nail, and then on top of

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<v Speaker 1>that they're long and they're sharp, you can cut the

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<v Speaker 1>inside of the vagina as well and introduce bacteria into there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to make sure that if you're partaking

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<v Speaker 1>in those activities that the person has clean, short fingernails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And like I don't know, like personally, I

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<v Speaker 2>would never want to engage with somebody that had fingernails

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<v Speaker 2>like that, But what are you gonna if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>spur of the moment, you know, you're like lusting after

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to be like?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, stop and cut your fingernails or make sure

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<v Speaker 2>they're cleaning shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You should definitely always keep now clippers by the side

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<v Speaker 1>of your bed. I guess in case this such situation

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that won't ruin the moment or anything, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. All right. This next one is called bulletproof chest.

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<v Speaker 2>So a thirty four year old woman walked in on

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who was about to take their own life with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun. She goes to try to get the gun

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<v Speaker 2>out of their hand and it accidentally discharges, shooting her

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<v Speaker 2>in the chest. So at the hospital, doctors determined that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the bullet went through a pretty unusual thing

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<v Speaker 2>and possibly saved her life.

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<v Speaker 1>So she got shot essentially through the areola right close

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<v Speaker 1>to the nipple and it so that was where the

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<v Speaker 1>entrance wound was and it went out of her armpit.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they did the dissection, when they were doing surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>they saw that the trajectory of the bullet went through

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<v Speaker 1>the nipple area and that it hit her breast implant.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a saline breast implant, and then it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ricocheted off of the capsule. So the capsule is

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<v Speaker 1>when you get breast implants, you have tissue that grows

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<v Speaker 1>in your body because your body recognizes a breast implant

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<v Speaker 1>as being foreign and it doesn't like it. So your

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<v Speaker 1>body kind of builds a wall around the implant and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this thick wall of tissue. Well, the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bounced off of that capsule and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>going through her rib, which is where it wanted to go,

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<v Speaker 1>it lost the moment momentum and kind of bounced off

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<v Speaker 1>and went out her armpit and saved her life. And

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<v Speaker 1>the cool part is in the picture in the post,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see the implant coming out of the exit woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really crazy looking. Yeah, and you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Writing about in the post too, how there was studies where,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like ballistic experts were actually shooting breast implants

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<v Speaker 2>in the field to try to see if they were

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<v Speaker 2>helpful in this at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's real. It's really interesting. So they did studies

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<v Speaker 1>and they found that women that have breast implants could

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<v Speaker 1>be twenties percent more likely to survive if they get

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the chest because they can they ruined the

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<v Speaker 1>momentum of the projectile that's going through you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like it slows it down, so to speak. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Wondering too, like because we've talked a lot about breast

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<v Speaker 2>implant illness and everything. To him, like what if she

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<v Speaker 2>had the silicone ones and then that could have caused

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<v Speaker 2>a whole different set of issues with the silicon popping.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if that would have had the

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<v Speaker 2>same effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, most I believe that most of the modern

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<v Speaker 1>day implants that are put in that the silicone is solid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like remember when I first started working in pathology,

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<v Speaker 1>I would show you that we would get these ruptured

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<v Speaker 1>breast implants from like these old ladies that got them

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<v Speaker 1>done in like the seventies and eighties and never took

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<v Speaker 1>them out. And they're very like basically like a balloon

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<v Speaker 1>filled with liquid silicone, sticky nastiness. So anytime the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of this balloon like ripped or ruptured, all of that

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<v Speaker 1>silicone would leak inside of a woman's chest. But now

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<v Speaker 1>they're made so they can get be up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you would still have to take it out,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wouldn't leak as it used to back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. I mean, obviously that was what was causing

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<v Speaker 1>people all these problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you have to get them. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>breast implants, you have to get them replaced, like every

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<v Speaker 2>ten years or so, right. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say it's as frequent as ten years. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>say probably closer to twenty years. But yes, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that a lot of the problems that we see

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<v Speaker 2>with foreign bodies in the lab are because people don't

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<v Speaker 2>really realize that. But also I always think about this,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was talking with one of our friends that

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<v Speaker 2>has implants, who got them when she was what thirty five,

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<v Speaker 2>So she's going to need to have them replaced a

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<v Speaker 2>couple times in her life. And I'm like, Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five and you really want breast implants, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>when you're fifty five you might really want breast implants.

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<v Speaker 2>But then all of a sudden, it's like you're seventy five,

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<v Speaker 2>so and you think, like, okay, whatever, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>die soon. But sometimes people live to be like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>years old, one hundred years old. You really should get

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<v Speaker 2>them replaced and not just leave them in, right. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like the older you get, the less you.

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<v Speaker 1>Care about Like that, I feel maybe not every woman,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think a lot of women or just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're sixty five years old, and now all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it's like you have authritis, you have

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<v Speaker 1>high blood pressure, you know what I mean, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>just either maybe not even healthy enough to get surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>But just like also just like I have two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I have five grandkids, Like I just don't care anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And you can't. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to because they could start causing problems if they're in

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<v Speaker 1>too long.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I feel like a lot of people I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to that want breast implants don't realize that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to get them replaced at some point. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they think it's a one and done surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they most people probably think that when they start,

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<v Speaker 1>but any good surgeon will tell them that's not the case,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So and and twenty years goes by fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's another thing too, is the cost.

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe when you're younger and you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>them done, you know, you don't have any responsibilities, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, because it costs a decent amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money to get the surgery done, and then when you

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<v Speaker 1>get older, it's like, oh, do I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend thousands of dollars to get new boobs right now? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather go on a trip, or I'd rather pay

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<v Speaker 1>for my kids college, or you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just like all these it's a lifelong decision. You

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<v Speaker 1>could also just get them taken out, but then a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times that doesn't work out well, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you went up so large, like you might have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of extra hanging skin and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't think they're ever in my future.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see myself winning a lift eventually, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Like I just feel like I have

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<v Speaker 2>such bad bag problems already, I don't need to introduce

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<v Speaker 2>anything else into the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm against them. I like the way that they look

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<v Speaker 1>in some people, for sure, and I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>definitely help people with if they have insecurities about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of anti foreign body unless I really

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<v Speaker 1>really need one, just because I've seen how horrible it

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<v Speaker 1>could go for some people. And I just think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have if you have a normally like hyperactive

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<v Speaker 1>immune system, which I think I do, between like allergies

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<v Speaker 1>and my autoimmune disease and stuff that I don't know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like my body would just freak out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I wouldn't want to deal with like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to deal with so much, but I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people that have had them and never had

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<v Speaker 1>any problems. It's the same with the IUD though. I

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<v Speaker 1>know people that have had iud's that had no problems

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<v Speaker 1>and other ones that it's the worst thing ever. So whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>just take the chance if it's if it bothers you

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<v Speaker 1>that bad to just you know, you could always get

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<v Speaker 1>them caught out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, This next one is called Mattress Side in Turkey.

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<v Speaker 2>A fifty seven year old woman was living with her

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three year old daughter who was schizophrenic. So the

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<v Speaker 2>mom was supposed to show up to some home meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming there was like an hoa type of deal

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<v Speaker 2>or in their apartment building. You know, they just had

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<v Speaker 2>meetings whatever. But she didn't show up, and because earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the day there had been screaming coming from the apartment,

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<v Speaker 2>the neighbors decided to call the police. So the police

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<v Speaker 2>get there and come across a really disturbing scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when the police showed up, they found this

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<v Speaker 1>mom had been not only murdered, but she's also was

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<v Speaker 1>partially dismembered, including her head was decapitated. She had just

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<v Speaker 1>such serious trauma to her bed, to her body, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a box, a cardboard box next to the

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<v Speaker 1>bed where her body and body parts were in. So

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<v Speaker 1>they decide when they looked at her, they saw that

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<v Speaker 1>her right arm and both hands were found in the

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<v Speaker 1>cardboard box next to the bed, and it it did

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<v Speaker 1>look like the daughter had attempted to clean up the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they went into the kitchen, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the clothes that she was wearing were put into the

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<v Speaker 1>washing machine and the knight, the knife that she used,

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<v Speaker 1>was washed. And they did also see something really unusual

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<v Speaker 1>was that the toilet was broke into pieces. So they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really understand what that was. So they interviewed the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter and she was saying basically that she was always

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing and humiliating her and I mean, she obviously had

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<v Speaker 1>this history of schizophrenia, right, So she said that she

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed her mom to death and then a couple hours

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<v Speaker 1>later she cut off her hands and she cut off

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<v Speaker 1>her head. But the craziest part and the most disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>part I guess of this story is when they examined

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<v Speaker 1>all of her body parts, they saw that her head

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<v Speaker 1>was indeed cut off at thee the number two cervical

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<v Speaker 1>vertebral area, which is like you can't see in the video,

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<v Speaker 1>but like right, you know, at the very top of

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<v Speaker 1>your neck, right under where you could fear your skull

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<v Speaker 1>going into your spinal canal.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they did, she cut her mom's head off

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<v Speaker 2>when she was dead, right, But this is proving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they so that's what they looked at. But so

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<v Speaker 1>not only did she have seventy one stab wounds in

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<v Speaker 1>her head, which is outrageous, so many the photo is

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<v Speaker 1>just so disturbing, but all of these stab wounds, including

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<v Speaker 1>the amputation margin, had hemorrhage, which indicates that she was

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<v Speaker 1>alive when those injuries took place. So the daughter cut

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<v Speaker 1>her mom's head off while she was still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think what's disturbing for investigators too, is

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<v Speaker 2>she said she was aware that she was in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of an episode when it was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, schizophrannia is just so it's so scary, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this mom was almost sixty years old living with

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter. She had this diagnosis as schizophrannia. She never

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<v Speaker 1>worked and had a job, and she had to live

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<v Speaker 1>at home with her mom. And just imagine the fear

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<v Speaker 1>that her mom lived in with knowing that her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>had episodes like this and stuff. And the hands had

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of defensive wounds, So it means that she was

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<v Speaker 1>aware that she was getting stabbed and was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>push her daughter off. And really, and then again, if

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't disturbing enough, the most disturbing part is after they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talk to the daughter that murdered her mom,

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<v Speaker 1>they found out that she broke the toilet because she

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make the opening bigger so she could

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<v Speaker 1>stuff her body parts in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's really sad to see this go down.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, mattress Side's really really rare, especially by

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<v Speaker 2>a daughter, right, Like, isn't that mostly committed by sons? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only like one to four percent of murders anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, most of the time it's committed by sons.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like people are going to push back on

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<v Speaker 2>that statistic because you know, right now, the hottest case

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<v Speaker 2>in the news is Gypsy Rose blanterd and especially because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, new crime scene photos have come out and

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<v Speaker 2>we just have to think of that like a daughter

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<v Speaker 2>that killed her. But that's I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a special case, which is why that case is so

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<v Speaker 2>sensationalized with everything happening with it in the Munchausen by

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<v Speaker 2>proxy and you know, but I don't feel like in

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<v Speaker 2>when we're researching that we come across a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I don't I'm not sure if tho. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that those photos are new crime scene photos.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that after everything that I looked up, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like they were already Apparently they've been available the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, and they circulated the internet for a while

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<v Speaker 1>years ago when this happened, and now they're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of recirculating. I'm not sure what prompted it to get

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<v Speaker 1>to recirculate them. But I did talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the photos because one of the grocery members sent me

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<v Speaker 1>the file with every single picture, so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to look at. But I'm not even sure that

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't really be considered mattricide because she physically didn't

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<v Speaker 1>kill the mom. Yes, you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>her friend killed the boyfriend. But and I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone ever interviews her why she decided to not. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's why she got in trouble and went to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't an impulsive thing that she decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do to protect herself. Kind of it was like planned

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<v Speaker 1>out and you know, like why she decided that she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to do it herself versus get someone to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely come up that

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<v Speaker 1>question to her right, like why did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have the guy do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I don't remember off the top of my head

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<v Speaker 2>what her answer was, but I think, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>definitely she definitely had charged with some form of first

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<v Speaker 2>degree murder, even though she didn't commit it herself, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was heavily involved in the planning process. So even

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<v Speaker 2>though she didn't stab her mother directly, she was part

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<v Speaker 2>of it in an accessory to the crime, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you had a factor in all the abuse that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's why her sentence was not as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as it normally would have been for a crime

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<v Speaker 2>like that, because they were able to successfully prove that

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<v Speaker 2>she was a victim of lifelong abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally. And when you look at the photos, the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene photos, I have the length for them posted

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<v Speaker 1>in the gross room as well, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing to see just I mean, obviously you see the

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<v Speaker 1>mom dead or whatever, but just just there's pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire house, the entire outside of the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the outside of the house, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just like a cute little suburban house. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what style of house she would call that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a rancher honestly, but it's painted nice

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it looks like it's in like a suburb, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you go inside, it's weird because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it looks like the mom spent the time

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<v Speaker 1>to decorate the house. I mean, it's corny, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she painted every room and did decorations to

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<v Speaker 1>match and this, that and the other, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>look around and it's just a complete hoarded mess. To

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<v Speaker 1>think that that anybody was even living at I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think she took the time to decorate and painted.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the house donated by habitat for Humanity, which

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<v Speaker 2>later came up as this really big deal because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing was fraudulent, right, So oh that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So so Habitat for Humanity. They come and build you

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<v Speaker 2>the entire they give you like a I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what they do, but yeah, I mean they got.

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<v Speaker 1>That because she was sick. They that's how they got.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the house as a charitable donation because everybody

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<v Speaker 2>thought that she was sick. So that was I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if the mom hadn't died, she I think eventually would

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten in trouble for like fraud and all of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff too, because she was fraudulently getting money and

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<v Speaker 2>going on like make a wish trips Disney World and

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<v Speaker 2>then getting this house for free.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, the most the most disturbing part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Gypsy Rose case is that I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you can make up all these stories and have your

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<v Speaker 1>friends in fact believe that your child sick. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you go to a medical doctor and tell them

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<v Speaker 1>that your child's sick to the point where they give

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<v Speaker 1>your child chemotherapy, yeah, and the FU tube and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like without any evidence to back that up. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't understand how that even happened. And I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I was rereading about this case yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, are they doing any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>investigation on these medical doctors that perform these procedures on

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>this kid? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And I'm certainly not defending them. I'm saying, like,

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<v Speaker 2>from what I know about the case, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>when people started question her, that's when she would start

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<v Speaker 2>going to new doctors, and then the mom was forging

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<v Speaker 2>paperwork and documents and all of that stuff. So like

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<v Speaker 2>I think today there's a lot more of a digital

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<v Speaker 2>presence with records. I don't know about ten fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when this was going on, how she was able

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, but she clearly was able to do

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<v Speaker 2>it in some capacity I on for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't. I can't wrap my brain around just

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<v Speaker 1>going to an oncologist for a child and them not

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<v Speaker 1>having blood work and all the other testing to support

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever diagnosis she has. Even if you're gone, especially if

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you're going to a new doctor and they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it, I don't think they're just gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>like a handout of some paperwork as proof and start

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>a drug like that. Like it just it seems so

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<v Speaker 1>irresponsible to me that the system failed this kid on

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<v Speaker 1>multiple levels, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean because this story to me sounds like

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 2>you can just go to the oncologist and be like, well,

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 2>the last doctor told me I have cancer, so what

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do now, and then they just don't check.

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>They're not like, well, where's your test results and where's

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<v Speaker 2>all this and how did it go down and everything

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this this lady got stabbed death in like twenty fifteen.

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that long ago, no, I mean, that's why

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm like, no, Like I was definitely working

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital then, and there was definitely electronic records,

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and I just don't, I don't, I don't understand, and

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I really haven't heard much about that, and I'm curious

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, clearly this is exposing these huge flaws

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 2>in the system, right, because how could this even go

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 2>on for so long? I mean, I think I think

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Gypsy was about twenty when she figured it out, So

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the mom died in twenty fifteen. I think Gypsy roses

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Ricky's age, So I think she's like thirty one or

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty two. No, she just turned thirty three. Thish, Okay,

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>so she's thirty three. So this crime happened when she

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was in her early twenties. But I think even when

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 2>the crime occurred, her mom told her she was sixteen

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 2>or something, but she was really twenty one or twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like the abuse was clearly documented, and

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I think she was completely justified honestly to I mean,

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 1>she you shouldn't ever kill somebody, but like if there

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>was ever a reason too, this would certainly be it.

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Anything that has to do with child abuse is like

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>fair game as far as I'm concerned. But yeah, that shit,

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that whole case is just is insane. But yeah, I

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>could see maybe like the feeding tube, because if the

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>kid was on some kind of lots of different medications

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that they weren't able to get nutrition that they need,

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and the kid wasn't gaining weight and was and was

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>losing weight and not thriving, I could see them giving

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a feeding tube. But I feel like all the other

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff before it, I don't know, it's just it's very

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>weird to me.

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>All Right, let's get into this next one called vehicle homicide.

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>So that title might be confusing for everybody.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>To get there.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So this sixty year old man was just riding his

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 2>bike and he got hit by a car. So you

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 2>would think, you know, maybe he would be the victim

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>in this situation, in dying from this, but no, he

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>flew off the bike and hit another woman that was

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 2>just innostantly eating lunch outside and she died. So essentially

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>she got killed by a car without the car ever

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>even touching her.

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>You know this. I was when we were reading about

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>this case this morning, I thought this could have totally happened,

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>just happened in Philly. I don't know if you heard

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>about that doctor that worked at Chopp that got kept

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>by a carrible. It was horrible. She was riding a

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>young I think she was a resident or a chief

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>resident of oncology, I believe, and she was riding her

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>bike to Children's hospital and she got hit by a

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>car like really bad and was flipped up in the

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>air and thrown some feet away. And it's like the

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>same exact thing could have happened if it was and

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>it was right in Brittenhouse, I believe, right, wasn't it

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>right around there where there's lots of restaurants where people

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>are sitting and eating outside, and I think that nobody

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>even thinks about that. When you're sitting next to like

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a semi busy street where cars can drive really fast,

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that's something like this could happen, and it's the ultimate

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 1>definition of a freak accident. But in this case, the

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the bicyclist was essentially flung into her body and it

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>caused her to get what was called the ring fracture

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>of the skull, which is when you know, if you

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>look at a skull and you see that giant hole

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Sure, do you ever like another one?

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>But well yeah, they just they even have them in

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>fake ones sometimes for like Halloween and stuff. But that's

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the forame and magnum, and that's where your spinal cord

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>comes up and enters your brain. Right. Well, when you

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>have a fracture around there, it's like your skull kind

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of separates from that ring around your spinal canal and

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it caught. That's what happened with her. Like it's a

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>really really bad fracture and it's usually fatal. But they

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>think that those kinds of fractures usually happened from like

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>hyper extensions. So the guy like crashed into her face

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and shoulder so hard that it like kind of ripped

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>her neck off of her skull kind of. I'm just

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so terrible.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>How could like, of course, this is a freaking accident,

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>because how could you prevent this in any way. I mean,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the car hits you, and you're on a bike, so

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you're kind of not in control over you're landing right,

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>So there's no there's nothing this guy could have even

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>done to try to avoid hitting her. It just goes

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 2>down so fast.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>No, and the it's it's weird too. I thought that

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>in this report they didn't say what happened to the bicyclist.

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he survived. I don't know what

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>happened with him. But yeah, just imagine surviving something like

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that and then knowing that you kill the person well

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>your body, you know, I know it's not your fault,

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>but you still feel terrible about that. I suppose, Yeah,

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder does the driver then get in trouble

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>for that woman's death? Oh yes? If? Well, the thing

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is is if if it's just like an if it

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was an innocent accident, you know, everything has to do

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>with what the circumstances are surrounding it. So if it

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was an innocent accident, like, no, it was an accident, right,

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>But if the person was drunk, then yeah they will

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they will absolutely get charged with vehicular homicide in that case,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean, and they should.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Like it just sucks because you can't not eat outside

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>because like this is because it's awesome. I love eating

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 2>outside is awesome. But you know this is this doesn't

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>happen often, right, which is why we're interested in talking

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>about it. But it definitely is scary to just think about.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Like you could just be trilling on the sidewalk, eating

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 2>a salad or whatever, and then all of a sudden

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>this this had to go down in less than ten seconds, right,

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just has to be so fast.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the lady literally died in the seat

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>at the cafe she was eating it like it just

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>was that quick. Yeah, which I guess is good that

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>she died fast. And I mean, like clearly she didn't

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>even know what was happening, like it happened so fast.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>But imagine the person that was eating lunch with her outside, right, well.

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>That everybody watching, Like you're saying it's it obviously is

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 2>absolutely horrific that she died, but at least it was

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>it was quick and she didn't have to suffer for

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>weeks and then die, so it.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what, That's actually a good question I have

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>for the listeners, Like that would be interesting for this

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>six Shocking Stories is if you've ever witnessed someone die

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>like right in front of you. Obviously, I feel like

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the most common thing is you see somebody have like

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a cardiac event or something like that, but like something

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>more crazy that you were just you were just kind

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of sitting there, just hanging out, and then all of

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, something like terrible happened in front of you.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>We love to hear those stories. Yeah, I mean, has

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>that ever happened to you? Yes? Actually, when I was

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>working in the city at a hospital, I was in

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Blue Steel's office, which was on the corner of a

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>busy city street, and a guy who was working on

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the windows like fell to his death, like right by

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the window outside. I mean he fell right in front

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of the emergency You saw him fall? Oh oh yeah.

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We were in his office just like talking and then

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we saw something go by and like looked out the

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>window and it was the guy was laying on the

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>ground with like blood coming from his head, and if

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>anywhere you're going to have a horrible accident, I mean

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>he was right outside of the emergency room of a

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Level one trauma center and they couldn't save him because

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that's how bad it was. But that that was, like,

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that was really really sad when I saw that. I

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>can't really think of anything else off the top of

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>my head. Probably I would say not if I can't remember,

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>because that's something that is really horrible, you know.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean when I was I feel like when

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I was maybe I was around Lillian's age, like eleven

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>or twelve. My aunt and uncle live in DC, so

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>we were driving down to go visit them, and we

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>stopped at the Maryland House rest up and I saw

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.239
<v Speaker 2>a guy have a heart attack there and he was

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>there with his daughter who was my age, and he

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>died there. So yeah, I remember that you were like

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>really traumatized by that. Well, yeah, because it's not only

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>horrible to see somebody die like that, but then I'm like, well,

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>what's happening to this kid?

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>They were on like a drive together, right, so what's

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen? To her.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Now, I also feel like in those situations, it's like,

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is there anybody that's really there? Like, I know they're

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to pay attention to the guy that's sick, but

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>is there anybody there that's like trying to comfort a

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>child at all in a situation like that. Like, the

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>whole thing was eerie.

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, her screaming, everybody just you know, gawking and

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>not doing anything to help the situation just classic. I

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>mean if this was now, it would be somebody taking

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>their camera out and videoing it and putting it on TikTok. Right,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 2>So the whole thing was disturbing. I mean, honestly that

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>it was just such. It was just such a dark

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>moment that I didn't go back there for a very

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>long time. Like I actively asked every time we drive

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>to DC, can we please not stop there, because it

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>just was this horrible memory I.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Had associated with.

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>But I think I went there in more recent years.

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's horrible to see something like that. Yeah,

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't imagine seeing something like this going down.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Just I don't know, the whole thing.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see any of these stories going

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>down me neither, especially this next one. Oh my god.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, obviously, rect old farm bodies are no

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>stranger to this show. I mean we're talking about them

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>all all the time. We could talk about one every episode.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That's different because it happens so often. We can honestly

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>probably have an entire spinoff podcast where we have people

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>write it. I mean, this is the most submissions we

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>get is about stuff like this, right, and we're just

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about it all the time. It's always in the news.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean we can literally it never gets old. We

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>can have an entire show just talking about things. People

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>stick up their butts.

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It's thing. Men stuck stick up their butts. It's always

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a dude.

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was interesting because when you wrote

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 2>this up you were saying that, you know, I found

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>it interesting. You were pointing out that men in particular

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>sometimes women too, instead of just buying a vibrator or

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>something because they're embarrassed, they're always just finding these miscellaneous,

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>like cylindrical shaped items around their house instead of just like,

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 2>why can't especially with the internet, why can't you just

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>buy something on Amazon and have it shifted to your house? Right?

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>It comes in?

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>God, could you imagine how much worse. This was like

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 1>back in the day before the Internet. No, I really

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I think about that all the time because like even

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in my lifetime, there was no Internet when I was younger,

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, if you wanted to get a sex

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>toy or something, you had to go to like South

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Street to Condemn Kingdom or something like that. Like you

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>couldn't just order one and have it like from Amazon

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and have it delivered to your house.

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So what especially guys that are like embarrassed with that stuff,

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>like they're they're definitely going to be using stuff around

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the house.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, even though like people are so much

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 2>more open about sexuality and stuff today. A couple of

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>years ago, I was working on a project and I

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>had to go to a sex shop in Philly to

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>buy the specialized underwear for somebody on this project that

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>was working on and I ran into somebody I went

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>to high school with, and I'm not gonna lie, it

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>was awkward because it's like, oh, and I'm like I'm

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 2>here for work. Yeah, so I'm not embarrassed.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 1>There's like nothing else you can buy there. It's not

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 1>like you were like, oh, I just had to stop

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and get milk and like that's why I'm here, Like

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>there's only one reason why you're there, even for me.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like whatever, I guess I could remove myself from

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>embarrassment because I'm like, I'm I am not buying something

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 2>for myself. I'm buying something for work. Not that that

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>person knew that, but walking into a really tiny sex

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>shop and seeing somebody you knew in high school that

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 2>you actually kind of barely knew shopping for dildos is

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of really awkward and you just like head nod,

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>like I know you, but we're not talking right now.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>This is just so weird.

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so this in France, this is a couple

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>of years ago, and this this eighty eight year old

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 2>guy shows up to the emergency room and you know,

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>he has he has a rectal farm body, and you know,

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 2>typically they see shampoo, bottles, cucumbers a pair, as we've

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:54.479
<v Speaker 2>discussed before. No, this guy had a bomb up there.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had an arterial shell up there. So I'm

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent certain what an arterior shell is,

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but I think that they can be lots of different things.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of under the assumption that it's almost like

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a shotgun shell just like really big that it's a

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>shell that's filled with ammo that has to be fired

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>from like a tank or something. Okay, so I personally

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like that thing just by itself is it's just

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>like holding a shotgun ammunition, Like it's not going to

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>do anything without being it needs some kind of source

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of of of flame to get it going.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 2>So it's not even like a grenade where you could

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>just but I don't know, but I don't I don't

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 2>know because like this is from World it ended up

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>being from World War One. Yeah, so it's that old

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, I just really don't know enough

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 2>about like army stuff or whatever you want to call it,

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 2>that I don't know that that thing just sitting there

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 2>is dangerous. And then also you have so you could

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>have one that was already kind of like it's inert

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.280
<v Speaker 2>now it's not of a danger, it was already shot

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>or it's just I don't know that they have a

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>way to disarm it somehow, And then you have ones

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that are active. I mean, you do hear that certain

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 2>things killed like from old wars kill people from time

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to time that was like in somebody's basement or something.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if that's referring to like a grenade,

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 2>because that they're the ones I consider different, Like, oh,

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you pull the pin.

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Out and then the thing could explode. I don't know

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>if these things can do that.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Well the emergency regardless, you didn't know that, well, yeah, exactly,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Like if I was working in the hospital and got

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>some shit like that, I'd be like, Yo, maybe we

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>should call somebody that knows a little bit about this

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to check this out. Yeah, So they had to call

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a bomb squad to come in before they were able

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>to remove this thing from the guide and make sure.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, they weren't going to take it out and

0:38:58.560 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't gonna blow everybody up.

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So and this is this is like some of the

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>struggles of the people in the bomb squad. I'm sure

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>this was a first for them. But they go in

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and they're you have to remember, like they're looking at

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>this thing through imaging because they can't look at the

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>actual thing because it's inside the guy's body. So they're

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at this thing through like an X ray or

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>something to determine what it is and if it's dangerous

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>or not.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Just went down, So they see this when you see

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 2>pictures of it. It's just kind of like this metal

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 2>like cylindrical shell. Right, So if they're looking at this

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>on imaging, they can't really tell from what it is

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>exactly because they're just seeing the shape of it essentially,

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>So are they seeing it and they're asking him what

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>it is and he tells them it's.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, probably, I mean the thing. Let's just talk

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>about the size of this thing. It's eight inches long,

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, you know, approaching the size of a ruler,

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and it is more than two inches thick, So this

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>thing is freakin' it's big. It's big, so they know

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it's they know it's something like, it's something that's not right,

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>so they will say like what is this? And I'm

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>sure they ask patients that all the time, even if

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>they see a shampoo bottle or whatever, because they want

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to make sure because we have cases in the gross

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>room too of people that like put items that are

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>glass up there, and then that's a risk to the

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>surgeon if something like that breaks. It's not like everything's

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>this nice plastic easy thing to get out, and they

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>want to know not only that if it's glass, that

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>could cut the patient too, and they're pulling it out,

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>like they just want to know what it is so

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>they know what they're dealing with. This guy's eighty eight

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>years old, Okay, eighty eight years old, and he has

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>this thing up his butt that's this big. Like he's

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>been doing this a long time, and this might have

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>been his friend for a very very long time before

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the internet even existed. Like think about this, Like this

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>guy didn't just like wake up at eighty eight years

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>old and say like, hey, let me try this. I

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>have this thing hanging around, Like you can't get something

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that big up there without like working at it a while.

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>He was using this for a while, but this was

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the first time it got stuck.

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or he was using other stuff and gradually got

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>up to that level. Like it just would be very

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>for sexual you're doing it for sexual pleasure to feel good.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I guess in theory, you could get that thing

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>up there on the first try, but like it definitely

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't feel good and nobody would would want to do that.

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like he started smaller and like gradually

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>worked his way up to that thing.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I also feel like it's kind of irresponsible to take

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>a hundred year old piece of metal that's like rusty

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and put it into either of your body.

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, who knows. Who knows what the guy

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>was thinking and he could have been completely out of

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>his mind, who knows. But I just think about like

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the bomb squad getting called for that and then going

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>in and then they determined that it was like a

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>low probability that it would explode inside of his body.

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And do you think do you think they just said

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that because they were like, yeah, we're we don't want

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this anymore and we don't want to

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>be in this situation anymore, because like surgeas is like

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>totally normal, like they take things out of people's bots

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>all the time, but like you're just the bomb squad

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>person that's used to checking like something in a suspicious backpack,

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like not not going to the hospital and thinking about

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>something in some old guy's ass, right, Yeah, I mean I.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Was really thinking about this because yesterday we wrote about

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta Olympic bombing. So last night I watched the

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 2>movie Richard Jewel that Clint Eastwood made, which, by the way,

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like blubbering crying the entire time.

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 1>It was so sad. That's so terrible.

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 2>But I was thinking about in the movie when they

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>showed the bomb squad checking out the backpack. How you know,

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>all they have to do is kind of like get

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 2>down to the flash it opened the flaps of a backpack.

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Now assessed the rectum of an eighty eight year old

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 2>man and try to determine if the thing he stuck

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>up his butt willingly.

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure they that they got anywhere near

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the patient, honestly, because there's nothing like from the average

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>person walking into an operating room. There's nothing that they

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.919
<v Speaker 1>were going to be able to look at to determine

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>if it was if it was volatile or not. Like

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>it's just they had to just look, like do it

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>based on imaging. So maybe they just like pulled them

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>in a room in the hospital and were like, look

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>at this, because like looking at the guy isn't going

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to do anything. And in this case, the thing was

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>so big, like there was no way they were getting

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that out through his anus, So they had to cut

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>open an incision on his abdomen and go in through

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the inside, cut his rectum open and take it out

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that way. And he I mean, they said that he

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>was expected to heal and I mean, you're eighty eight

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're getting colon surgery and he'll be fine, I guess.

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 2>But do you think he'll get in trouble because the

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 2>emergency room had to be evacuated in the inconvenience that caused.

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're like, do you I mean, I think

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 2>people can legally own things like this.

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>It's war memory. I don't don't get in trouble. I mean,

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't intentionally trying to hurt people, like it just

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was like and like I said, like he could have

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>been doing this for years and just never had an

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>issue and just didn't think anything of it. Like I

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think he was. It's not like he went in

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and was like I have something that can explode in

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>my orifice and like like trying to start like a

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>terroristic act or something.

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean kind of the most surprising start part of

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 2>this story for me was that an eighty eight year

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 2>old man was this sexually active.

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>No I get. I'm telling you. The very first, the

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>very first rectal foreign body I got before I even

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>understood what was happening, was I got a traveled toothbrush

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>holder on a seventy eight year old man and I

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 1>was just so blown away, like I couldn't understand. It

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>was covered in poop and it was just nasty. And

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>then when I went to talk to one of the

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 1>pathologist about it, he was the one that sat me

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>down and was just like, oh no, it's always men

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and this is why.

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, they were like eve, little Nicole, Oh.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly that, yes, exactly, And.

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>They sure were opened after that, and then you got

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty five more that month because you worked at a

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>huge hospital.

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I mean it doesn't matter what hospital I

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>ever worked at. It's it's a community hospital, large hospital.

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:36.479
<v Speaker 1>You still get like everybody's the same all over, which

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. You know, like guys like butt pleasure in

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the burbs and they like it in the big city too.

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 2>So I think the moral of this story is the

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Internet exists. There's you know, cardboard boxes from Amazon. Just

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 2>order a dildo that's designed for this online instead of

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>miscellaneous items, especially not weaponry, because not only are you

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>hurting yourself, but you're freaking everybody around you out so chilling.

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And this this post is called as long as it

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like a dick.

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seriously, And it's true all right. Our last one

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 2>is called your garden can Kill You. And this one

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 2>really worries me about you because every day when I

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 2>get to your house, you're out there doing some type

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>of gardening and you're always wearing you know, you're kind

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 2>of turning into momm with your inappropriate shoe wearing situation.

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 2>We always make fun of Mama because she's wearing sandals

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>always and she falls in them because she's wearing them

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 2>not in correct situations.

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll be going We'll be going somewhere with my mom,

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, Disney World's somewhere that you need

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to walk a lot in one day. And she'll come

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>over with like wedge sandals on or something, and we're

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>just like we have to tell her, like she's a child,

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>like are you gonna be comfortable walking in those shoes

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>all day? Is there a chance you could get blisters?

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Or like I feel like I say that to the

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>children before we go on a hike or something like

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>let's make sure you put on something that's like not

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you blisters, and it's it's gonna protect your feet.

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Like but third nine and eleven, like she's she's like

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>an old lady, and we still have to have this

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 1>talk with her.

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I even saw over the weekend at the

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 2>cabin that you were wearing sandals when you were going

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 2>down those stones, which.

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Are not easy to walk down, by the way. Yeah,

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>but I was. I was getting ready to go stand

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>in the creek. I wanted to have like bare feet.

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>But what if you trip?

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 2>This is my point, Like you came over my house

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>with a balisio. You were being very nice, good mom, putting

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 2>a wallpaper for me by my back door, and you're

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>wearing rubber slides on a ladder, which is dangerous too.

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting worried about your shoe heabits. I think you're

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:44.240
<v Speaker 2>turning into bed.

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I will well, Yeah, I guess I do that outside

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>all the time because they're like my comfortable shoes, and

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>my feet get wet when I'm gardening and stuff. So

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to have like that gross wet

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>sock feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is why this worries me, because in this story,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was on a ladder, just doing gardening like

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<v Speaker 2>you do every day, and he slipped and fell, and

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<v Speaker 2>he fell on this aluminum steak that was holding up

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<v Speaker 2>his tomato plant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So when they arrived at the scene, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>has literally has been impelled by an aluminum steak through

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<v Speaker 1>his chest and he's dead, laying on the ground in

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<v Speaker 1>front of his tomato plants. And there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other tomato plants with similar aluminum steaks, and he's laying

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground right next to a ladder. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was clear that that is what happened when they did

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation and everything, and when they did the autopsy,

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<v Speaker 1>they found that it went through his left chest and

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<v Speaker 1>it punctured his lung, and it punctured his A order

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<v Speaker 1>and it was eleven inches or twenty seven centimeters deep

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 1>into his body. Like it just it impelled him, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. And when it went through the A order,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it just caused him to have a massive

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<v Speaker 1>internal bleeding and that's how he died blood to death.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw in the autopsy photos that the steak was

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<v Speaker 2>still in him when they were dissecting him. Why did

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<v Speaker 2>they leave it in?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they want because if you have a person and

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<v Speaker 1>we lay them down and they have the steak inside

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<v Speaker 1>of their chest and then we take it out, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not really going to be able to see as

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<v Speaker 1>much of like where it went, where it landed, the

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>damage that was done. We typically when we do an autopsy,

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<v Speaker 1>even when we're trying to check like the medical interventions

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that a person had, like if they had like a

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>trake tube or something like that, Like we don't take

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<v Speaker 1>anything out until we open them up and see where

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it is, because otherwise you can't tell like what if

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that thing like went in and kind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, missed his heart and he really just had

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack and fell and that was just like

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<v Speaker 1>it just so happened it like second, yeah, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still I guess it's still possible that the guy

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<v Speaker 1>had a heart attack and fell. But what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is like that's they do that all the time, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to pull something out just because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the track. And it's cool in the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy photos that you could see like a side view

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<v Speaker 1>that they show you how it went through the skin

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<v Speaker 1>and like exactly like the track it went to and

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<v Speaker 1>what killed him. But honestly, like if they pulled it out,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been obvious that his aorta got punctured

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<v Speaker 1>and was bleeding all over the place, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter. But sometimes they just do that for effect,

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<v Speaker 1>for photos or just documentation purposes. Yeah, I was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to think about how they transported that person from

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<v Speaker 2>where they found them to the morgue without having any

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<v Speaker 2>issues of it falling.

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<v Speaker 1>Out because it was stuck in there. It looked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that that happens sometimes too, Like think about we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of cases in the grocer room too,

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<v Speaker 1>of like people, we have one case I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about talking about, like you know those trucks that like

0:50:55.760 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>carry timber, like those things like sometimes the big piece

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 1>of timber, like a giant tree trunk basically like can

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>slide and go through someone's chest and they're still alive

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<v Speaker 1>and survive the accident. So usually or anytime somebody's impelled

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<v Speaker 1>with something like the first responders are cut off as

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<v Speaker 1>much of it as they can and still leave it

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<v Speaker 1>in place. And especially when a person's alive, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to transfer them to the hospital because once you pull

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it out like that thing could be like plugging blood

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<v Speaker 1>from pouring out of one of their vessels, So you

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<v Speaker 1>really have to leave it in there and transport people

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<v Speaker 1>like that like all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's kind of crazy. I just never

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<v Speaker 2>thought about. I mean, the pictures for me were compelling

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<v Speaker 2>because it was still inside of him. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about everybody involved that has to work to preserve

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 2>that being in his body and transport it without it

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<v Speaker 2>causing issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, especially in a case like this, Like, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear just looking at it that it's that it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably an accident, But like, how do you know that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't get into a fight and some guy came

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<v Speaker 1>up and grabbed the steak and like stabbed it into

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<v Speaker 1>his chest and yeah, while he was gardening. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally a possibility. So with their investigation and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>they determined that that was what happened because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any evidence of a struggle or anything like that.

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