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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get into this

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Speaker 1: week's six shocking stories.

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Speaker 2: So our first one is called cut your fingernails Please.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see where this goes, because fingernails

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Speaker 2: gross me out really badly. So this woman and her

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Speaker 2: sexual partner were having sex. After they finished, she ended

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Speaker 2: up dying, and what they founded her autopsy was really surprising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they did the autopsy, and you know, she

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Speaker 1: was a perfectly young person. They just didn't really understand

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Speaker 1: what happened with her. And when they took out her

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Speaker 1: uterus and vagina, so that's one of the organs that

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Speaker 1: we typically examine on every autop they took it out

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Speaker 1: and they saw this large laceration in the vaginal wall

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Speaker 1: that was very heemorrhagic and it looked like it was

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Speaker 1: definitely a source of what the problem was. And when

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Speaker 1: they did the entire autopsy, they kind of had their suspicions.

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Speaker 1: So they did it in a specific way where they

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Speaker 1: examined the heart and the vessels that go into the

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Speaker 1: heart and come out of the heart under water, So

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Speaker 1: they put water in the chest cavity, and when they

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Speaker 1: opened up the heart and the vessels, there were lots

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Speaker 1: of air bubbles coming out, which is helpful in diagnosing

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Speaker 1: something called an air embolism. So what is an air

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Speaker 1: embolism exactly and are they common? So any they're not

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Speaker 1: very common, and any time you have an embolism, So

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Speaker 1: an embolism means that it's something that occurs inside of

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Speaker 1: one of the vessels and it could travel to the

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Speaker 1: heart and to the lungs, which is always dangerous. So

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Speaker 1: you've probably heard of pulmonary embolism. You've probably heard of

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Speaker 1: a fat embolism when we were talking about like bosuction

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Speaker 1: and those procedures like that, and an air embolism is

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Speaker 1: the same thing. It's when air enters one part of

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Speaker 1: the cardiovascular system and it travels to the heart and lungs,

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Speaker 1: and obviously, like when anything is in the circulatory system

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Speaker 1: that's not supposed to be there besides blood that's circulating

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Speaker 1: oxygen through your body, then it could be really bad

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Speaker 1: and it could end up causing death. So in this case,

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Speaker 1: they determined that she was getting having how could I

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Speaker 1: say this classy like foreplay for play with Digital penetration

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Speaker 1: very very hard and with fingers yes, okay, digit yes,

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Speaker 1: And the act of just pushing in and out so

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Speaker 1: fast was what caused the air to kind of go

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Speaker 1: into the vagina. But really the way that the air

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Speaker 1: got into the vascular system was because his fingernails were

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Speaker 1: so long that it caused a laceration and a tear

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Speaker 1: in the vaginal wall, which then put a tear into

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Speaker 1: one of the veins, and that's how the air ended

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Speaker 1: up getting up inside of there. I mean, if your

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Speaker 1: fingernails are that long that it's causing damage like that,

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Speaker 1: that is absolutely disgusting. I don't know, my fingernails are

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Speaker 1: like five inches long.

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Speaker 2: You have acrylic nails that are done like what I

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Speaker 2: guess when they were when they were doing the autopsy, Like,

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Speaker 2: is that something they go back and look at the

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Speaker 2: other person's fingernails. Well, it's it's part of the investigation.

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Speaker 2: That's what they determined it was from.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's still so it's just a complete freak death.

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Speaker 1: It's it. Air embolisms and women especially are most common

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Speaker 1: in the postpartum period, and that's because when you have

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Speaker 1: your placenta inside of your uterus right after you give birth,

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Speaker 1: when the placenta breaks off from the inside of the uterus,

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Speaker 1: it causes these open ended vessels, right, And that's why

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Speaker 1: that period for six weeks after you have a baby.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons they tell you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be having sex because this has been documented to happen

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Speaker 1: in people because just the forceful pumping of a penis

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Speaker 1: as well, but there are documented cases of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean death by fingernail for play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I never would have thought of something like this, I

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Speaker 2: guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some dudes with some gnarly fingernails, just especially

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Speaker 1: or something. Just it really grosses me out. You're you're like,

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, we were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: like how men wearing sandals kind of skive us out,

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Speaker 2: which I don't feel like people. I mean, the comments

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I think I'm thinking about this too.

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Speaker 2: Like fingernails, when they're long, no matter if you're male

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Speaker 2: or female, it they're If they're not properly manicured and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's also another another thing that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to say, like if you and it, I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: women and men could stick their fingers inside of vaginas,

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Speaker 1: but if there's a lot of dirt and debris and

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Speaker 1: bacteria underneath of the nail, and then on top of

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Speaker 1: inside of the vagina as well and introduce bacteria into there.

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Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that if you're partaking

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Speaker 1: in those activities that the person has clean, short fingernails.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And like I don't know, like personally, I

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Speaker 2: like that, But what are you gonna if you're in

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Speaker 1: What are you going to be like?

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Speaker 2: All right, stop and cut your fingernails or make sure

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Speaker 1: You should definitely always keep now clippers by the side

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Speaker 1: of your bed. I guess in case this such situation

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that won't ruin the moment or anything, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know. All right. This next one is called bulletproof chest.

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Speaker 2: So a thirty four year old woman walked in on

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Speaker 2: somebody who was about to take their own life with

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Speaker 2: a gun. She goes to try to get the gun

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Speaker 2: out of their hand and it accidentally discharges, shooting her

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Speaker 2: in the chest. So at the hospital, doctors determined that,

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Speaker 2: and possibly saved her life.

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Speaker 1: So she got shot essentially through the areola right close

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Speaker 1: And when they did the dissection, when they were doing surgery,

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Speaker 1: She had a saline breast implant, and then it kind

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Speaker 1: of ricocheted off of the capsule. So the capsule is

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Speaker 1: when you get breast implants, you have tissue that grows

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Speaker 1: the cool part is in the picture in the post,

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Speaker 1: you could see the implant coming out of the exit woman.

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Speaker 1: It's really crazy looking. Yeah, and you were.

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Speaker 2: Writing about in the post too, how there was studies where,

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Speaker 2: you know, like ballistic experts were actually shooting breast implants

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real. It's really interesting. So they did studies

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Speaker 1: and they found that women that have breast implants could

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Speaker 1: be twenties percent more likely to survive if they get

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Speaker 1: shot in the chest because they can they ruined the

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Speaker 1: momentum of the projectile that's going through you know what

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Speaker 2: Wondering too, like because we've talked a lot about breast

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Speaker 2: had the silicone ones and then that could have caused

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Speaker 2: a whole different set of issues with the silicon popping.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that would have had the

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Speaker 1: And well, most I believe that most of the modern

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Speaker 1: It's not like remember when I first started working in pathology,

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Speaker 1: I would show you that we would get these ruptured

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Speaker 1: done in like the seventies and eighties and never took

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Speaker 1: them out. And they're very like basically like a balloon

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Speaker 1: they're made so they can get be up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you would still have to take it out,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to get them. If you have

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Speaker 2: breast implants, you have to get them replaced, like every

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's as frequent as ten years. I'd

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Speaker 2: say probably closer to twenty years. But yes, But I

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Speaker 2: really realize that. But also I always think about this,

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Speaker 2: And I was talking with one of our friends that

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Speaker 2: So she's going to need to have them replaced a

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Speaker 2: when you're fifty five you might really want breast implants.

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Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden, it's like you're seventy five,

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Speaker 2: so and you think, like, okay, whatever, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: die soon. But sometimes people live to be like ninety

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Speaker 2: years old, one hundred years old. You really should get

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Speaker 2: them replaced and not just leave them in, right. And

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Speaker 2: it's just like the older you get, the less you.

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Speaker 1: Care about Like that, I feel maybe not every woman,

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Speaker 1: but I think a lot of women or just be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're sixty five years old, and now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like you have authritis, you have

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Speaker 1: high blood pressure, you know what I mean, Like you

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Speaker 1: just either maybe not even healthy enough to get surgery.

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Speaker 1: But just like also just like I have two kids,

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Speaker 1: I have five grandkids, Like I just don't care anymore,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you can't. You have

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Speaker 1: to because they could start causing problems if they're in

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Speaker 2: You know. I feel like a lot of people I

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Speaker 2: talk to that want breast implants don't realize that you

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Speaker 2: have to get them replaced at some point. I think

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Speaker 2: they think it's a one and done surgery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they most people probably think that when they start,

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Speaker 1: but any good surgeon will tell them that's not the case,

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Speaker 1: you know, So and and twenty years goes by fast,

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Speaker 1: you know. And that's another thing too, is the cost.

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Speaker 1: Like maybe when you're younger and you want to get

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Speaker 1: get older, it's like, oh, do I really want to

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Speaker 1: spend thousands of dollars to get new boobs right now? No,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's really sad to see this go down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And when you look at the photos, the

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Speaker 2: So so Habitat for Humanity. They come and build you

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Speaker 1: And you know what, the most the most disturbing part

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Speaker 2: the last doctor told me I have cancer, so what

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00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: are we gonna do now, and then they just don't check.

436
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: They're not like, well, where's your test results and where's

437
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: all this and how did it go down and everything

438
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: like that.

439
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Okay, this this lady got stabbed death in like twenty fifteen.

440
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago, no, I mean, that's why

441
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: I just I'm like, no, Like I was definitely working

442
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: in the hospital then, and there was definitely electronic records,

443
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: and I just don't, I don't, I don't understand, and

444
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: I really haven't heard much about that, and I'm curious

445
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: about that.

446
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, clearly this is exposing these huge flaws

447
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: in the system, right, because how could this even go

448
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: on for so long? I mean, I think I think

449
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: Gypsy was about twenty when she figured it out, So

450
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: the mom died in twenty fifteen. I think Gypsy roses

451
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: Ricky's age, So I think she's like thirty one or

452
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: thirty two. No, she just turned thirty three. Thish, Okay,

453
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: so she's thirty three. So this crime happened when she

454
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: was in her early twenties. But I think even when

455
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: the crime occurred, her mom told her she was sixteen

456
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: or something, but she was really twenty one or twenty two.

457
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like the abuse was clearly documented, and

458
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: I think she was completely justified honestly to I mean,

459
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: she you shouldn't ever kill somebody, but like if there

460
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: was ever a reason too, this would certainly be it.

461
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: Anything that has to do with child abuse is like

462
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: fair game as far as I'm concerned. But yeah, that shit,

463
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: that whole case is just is insane. But yeah, I

464
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: could see maybe like the feeding tube, because if the

465
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: kid was on some kind of lots of different medications

466
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: that they weren't able to get nutrition that they need,

467
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: and the kid wasn't gaining weight and was and was

468
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: losing weight and not thriving, I could see them giving

469
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: a feeding tube. But I feel like all the other

470
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: stuff before it, I don't know, it's just it's very

471
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: weird to me.

472
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: All Right, let's get into this next one called vehicle homicide.

473
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: So that title might be confusing for everybody.

474
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: To get there.

475
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: So this sixty year old man was just riding his

476
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: bike and he got hit by a car. So you

477
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: would think, you know, maybe he would be the victim

478
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: in this situation, in dying from this, but no, he

479
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: flew off the bike and hit another woman that was

480
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: just innostantly eating lunch outside and she died. So essentially

481
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: she got killed by a car without the car ever

482
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: even touching her.

483
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: You know this. I was when we were reading about

484
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: this case this morning, I thought this could have totally happened,

485
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: just happened in Philly. I don't know if you heard

486
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: about that doctor that worked at Chopp that got kept

487
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: by a carrible. It was horrible. She was riding a

488
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: young I think she was a resident or a chief

489
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: resident of oncology, I believe, and she was riding her

490
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: bike to Children's hospital and she got hit by a

491
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: car like really bad and was flipped up in the

492
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: air and thrown some feet away. And it's like the

493
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: same exact thing could have happened if it was and

494
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: it was right in Brittenhouse, I believe, right, wasn't it

495
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: right around there where there's lots of restaurants where people

496
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: are sitting and eating outside, and I think that nobody

497
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: even thinks about that. When you're sitting next to like

498
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: a semi busy street where cars can drive really fast,

499
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: that's something like this could happen, and it's the ultimate

500
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: definition of a freak accident. But in this case, the

501
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: the bicyclist was essentially flung into her body and it

502
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: caused her to get what was called the ring fracture

503
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: of the skull, which is when you know, if you

504
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: look at a skull and you see that giant hole

505
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: at the bottom.

506
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Sure, do you ever like another one?

507
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: But well yeah, they just they even have them in

508
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: fake ones sometimes for like Halloween and stuff. But that's

509
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: the forame and magnum, and that's where your spinal cord

510
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: comes up and enters your brain. Right. Well, when you

511
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: have a fracture around there, it's like your skull kind

512
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: of separates from that ring around your spinal canal and

513
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: it caught. That's what happened with her. Like it's a

514
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: really really bad fracture and it's usually fatal. But they

515
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: think that those kinds of fractures usually happened from like

516
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: hyper extensions. So the guy like crashed into her face

517
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: and shoulder so hard that it like kind of ripped

518
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: her neck off of her skull kind of. I'm just

519
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: it's it's so terrible.

520
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: How could like, of course, this is a freaking accident,

521
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: because how could you prevent this in any way. I mean,

522
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: the car hits you, and you're on a bike, so

523
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: you're kind of not in control over you're landing right,

524
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: So there's no there's nothing this guy could have even

525
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: done to try to avoid hitting her. It just goes

526
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: down so fast.

527
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: No, and the it's it's weird too. I thought that

528
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: in this report they didn't say what happened to the bicyclist.

529
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he survived. I don't know what

530
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: happened with him. But yeah, just imagine surviving something like

531
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: that and then knowing that you kill the person well

532
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: your body, you know, I know it's not your fault,

533
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: but you still feel terrible about that. I suppose, Yeah,

534
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: And I wonder does the driver then get in trouble

535
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: for that woman's death? Oh yes? If? Well, the thing

536
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: is is if if it's just like an if it

537
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: was an innocent accident, you know, everything has to do

538
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: with what the circumstances are surrounding it. So if it

539
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: was an innocent accident, like, no, it was an accident, right,

540
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: But if the person was drunk, then yeah they will

541
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: they will absolutely get charged with vehicular homicide in that case,

542
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean, and they should.

543
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: Like it just sucks because you can't not eat outside

544
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: because like this is because it's awesome. I love eating

545
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: outside is awesome. But you know this is this doesn't

546
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: happen often, right, which is why we're interested in talking

547
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: about it. But it definitely is scary to just think about.

548
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: Like you could just be trilling on the sidewalk, eating

549
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: a salad or whatever, and then all of a sudden

550
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: this this had to go down in less than ten seconds, right,

551
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it just has to be so fast.

552
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the lady literally died in the seat

553
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: at the cafe she was eating it like it just

554
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: was that quick. Yeah, which I guess is good that

555
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: she died fast. And I mean, like clearly she didn't

556
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: even know what was happening, like it happened so fast.

557
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: But imagine the person that was eating lunch with her outside, right, well.

558
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: That everybody watching, Like you're saying it's it obviously is

559
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: absolutely horrific that she died, but at least it was

560
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: it was quick and she didn't have to suffer for

561
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: weeks and then die, so it.

562
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: You know what, That's actually a good question I have

563
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: for the listeners, Like that would be interesting for this

564
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: six Shocking Stories is if you've ever witnessed someone die

565
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: like right in front of you. Obviously, I feel like

566
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: the most common thing is you see somebody have like

567
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: a cardiac event or something like that, but like something

568
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: more crazy that you were just you were just kind

569
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: of sitting there, just hanging out, and then all of

570
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, something like terrible happened in front of you.

571
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: We love to hear those stories. Yeah, I mean, has

572
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: that ever happened to you? Yes? Actually, when I was

573
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: working in the city at a hospital, I was in

574
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Blue Steel's office, which was on the corner of a

575
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: busy city street, and a guy who was working on

576
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: the windows like fell to his death, like right by

577
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the window outside. I mean he fell right in front

578
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: of the emergency You saw him fall? Oh oh yeah.

579
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: We were in his office just like talking and then

580
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: we saw something go by and like looked out the

581
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: window and it was the guy was laying on the

582
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: ground with like blood coming from his head, and if

583
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: anywhere you're going to have a horrible accident, I mean

584
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: he was right outside of the emergency room of a

585
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: Level one trauma center and they couldn't save him because

586
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: that's how bad it was. But that that was, like,

587
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: that was really really sad when I saw that. I

588
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: can't really think of anything else off the top of

589
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: my head. Probably I would say not if I can't remember,

590
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: because that's something that is really horrible, you know.

591
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when I was I feel like when

592
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: I was maybe I was around Lillian's age, like eleven

593
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: or twelve. My aunt and uncle live in DC, so

594
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: we were driving down to go visit them, and we

595
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: stopped at the Maryland House rest up and I saw

596
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 2: a guy have a heart attack there and he was

597
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: there with his daughter who was my age, and he

598
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: died there. So yeah, I remember that you were like

599
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: really traumatized by that. Well, yeah, because it's not only

600
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: horrible to see somebody die like that, but then I'm like, well,

601
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: what's happening to this kid?

602
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

603
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: They were on like a drive together, right, so what's

604
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: gonna happen? To her.

605
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: Now, I also feel like in those situations, it's like,

606
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: is there anybody that's really there? Like, I know they're

607
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: trying to pay attention to the guy that's sick, but

608
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: is there anybody there that's like trying to comfort a

609
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: child at all in a situation like that. Like, the

610
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: whole thing was eerie.

611
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, her screaming, everybody just you know, gawking and

612
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: not doing anything to help the situation just classic. I

613
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: mean if this was now, it would be somebody taking

614
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: their camera out and videoing it and putting it on TikTok. Right,

615
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: So the whole thing was disturbing. I mean, honestly that

616
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: it was just such. It was just such a dark

617
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: moment that I didn't go back there for a very

618
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: long time. Like I actively asked every time we drive

619
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: to DC, can we please not stop there, because it

620
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: just was this horrible memory I.

621
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: Had associated with.

622
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: But I think I went there in more recent years.

623
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: But it's it's horrible to see something like that. Yeah,

624
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine seeing something like this going down.

625
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: Just I don't know, the whole thing.

626
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any of these stories going

627
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: down me neither, especially this next one. Oh my god.

628
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: So, I mean, obviously, rect old farm bodies are no

629
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: stranger to this show. I mean we're talking about them

630
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: all all the time. We could talk about one every episode.

631
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: That's different because it happens so often. We can honestly

632
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: probably have an entire spinoff podcast where we have people

633
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: write it. I mean, this is the most submissions we

634
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: get is about stuff like this, right, and we're just

635
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: talking about it all the time. It's always in the news.

636
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: I mean we can literally it never gets old. We

637
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: can have an entire show just talking about things. People

638
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: stick up their butts.

639
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: It's thing. Men stuck stick up their butts. It's always

640
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: a dude.

641
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: So I thought it was interesting because when you wrote

642
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: this up you were saying that, you know, I found

643
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: it interesting. You were pointing out that men in particular

644
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: sometimes women too, instead of just buying a vibrator or

645
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: something because they're embarrassed, they're always just finding these miscellaneous,

646
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: like cylindrical shaped items around their house instead of just like,

647
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: why can't especially with the internet, why can't you just

648
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: buy something on Amazon and have it shifted to your house? Right?

649
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: It comes in?

650
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: God, could you imagine how much worse. This was like

651
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: back in the day before the Internet. No, I really

652
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: I think about that all the time because like even

653
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, there was no Internet when I was younger,

654
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: and it's like, if you wanted to get a sex

655
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: toy or something, you had to go to like South

656
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Street to Condemn Kingdom or something like that. Like you

657
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: couldn't just order one and have it like from Amazon

658
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: and have it delivered to your house.

659
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: You know.

660
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: So what especially guys that are like embarrassed with that stuff,

661
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: like they're they're definitely going to be using stuff around

662
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: the house.

663
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, even though like people are so much

664
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: more open about sexuality and stuff today. A couple of

665
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: years ago, I was working on a project and I

666
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: had to go to a sex shop in Philly to

667
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: buy the specialized underwear for somebody on this project that

668
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: was working on and I ran into somebody I went

669
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: to high school with, and I'm not gonna lie, it

670
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: was awkward because it's like, oh, and I'm like I'm

671
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: here for work. Yeah, so I'm not embarrassed.

672
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: There's like nothing else you can buy there. It's not

673
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: like you were like, oh, I just had to stop

674
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: and get milk and like that's why I'm here, Like

675
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: there's only one reason why you're there, even for me.

676
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm like whatever, I guess I could remove myself from

677
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: embarrassment because I'm like, I'm I am not buying something

678
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: for myself. I'm buying something for work. Not that that

679
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: person knew that, but walking into a really tiny sex

680
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: shop and seeing somebody you knew in high school that

681
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: you actually kind of barely knew shopping for dildos is

682
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: kind of really awkward and you just like head nod,

683
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: like I know you, but we're not talking right now.

684
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: This is just so weird.

685
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: But anyway, so this in France, this is a couple

686
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: of years ago, and this this eighty eight year old

687
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: guy shows up to the emergency room and you know,

688
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: he has he has a rectal farm body, and you know,

689
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: typically they see shampoo, bottles, cucumbers a pair, as we've

690
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 2: discussed before. No, this guy had a bomb up there.

691
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had an arterial shell up there. So I'm

692
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent certain what an arterior shell is,

693
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: but I think that they can be lots of different things.

694
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm kind of under the assumption that it's almost like

695
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: a shotgun shell just like really big that it's a

696
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: shell that's filled with ammo that has to be fired

697
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: from like a tank or something. Okay, so I personally

698
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: feel like that thing just by itself is it's just

699
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: like holding a shotgun ammunition, Like it's not going to

700
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: do anything without being it needs some kind of source

701
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: of of of flame to get it going.

702
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 2: So it's not even like a grenade where you could

703
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: just but I don't know, but I don't I don't

704
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: know because like this is from World it ended up

705
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: being from World War One. Yeah, so it's that old

706
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I just really don't know enough

707
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: about like army stuff or whatever you want to call it,

708
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: that I don't know that that thing just sitting there

709
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 2: is dangerous. And then also you have so you could

710
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: have one that was already kind of like it's inert

711
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: now it's not of a danger, it was already shot

712
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: or it's just I don't know that they have a

713
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: way to disarm it somehow, And then you have ones

714
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: that are active. I mean, you do hear that certain

715
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: things killed like from old wars kill people from time

716
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: to time that was like in somebody's basement or something.

717
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's referring to like a grenade,

718
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: because that they're the ones I consider different, Like, oh,

719
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: you pull the pin.

720
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: Out and then the thing could explode. I don't know

721
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: if these things can do that.

722
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: Well the emergency regardless, you didn't know that, well, yeah, exactly,

723
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Like if I was working in the hospital and got

724
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: some shit like that, I'd be like, Yo, maybe we

725
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: should call somebody that knows a little bit about this

726
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: to check this out. Yeah, So they had to call

727
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: a bomb squad to come in before they were able

728
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: to remove this thing from the guide and make sure.

729
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: You know, they weren't going to take it out and

730
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't gonna blow everybody up.

731
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: So and this is this is like some of the

732
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: struggles of the people in the bomb squad. I'm sure

733
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: this was a first for them. But they go in

734
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: and they're you have to remember, like they're looking at

735
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: this thing through imaging because they can't look at the

736
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: actual thing because it's inside the guy's body. So they're

737
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: looking at this thing through like an X ray or

738
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: something to determine what it is and if it's dangerous

739
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: or not.

740
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Just went down, So they see this when you see

741
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: pictures of it. It's just kind of like this metal

742
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: like cylindrical shell. Right, So if they're looking at this

743
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: on imaging, they can't really tell from what it is

744
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: exactly because they're just seeing the shape of it essentially,

745
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: So are they seeing it and they're asking him what

746
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: it is and he tells them it's.

747
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: That, yeah, probably, I mean the thing. Let's just talk

748
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: about the size of this thing. It's eight inches long,

749
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, approaching the size of a ruler,

750
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: and it is more than two inches thick, So this

751
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: thing is freakin' it's big. It's big, so they know

752
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: it's they know it's something like, it's something that's not right,

753
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: so they will say like what is this? And I'm

754
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: sure they ask patients that all the time, even if

755
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: they see a shampoo bottle or whatever, because they want

756
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: to make sure because we have cases in the gross

757
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: room too of people that like put items that are

758
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: glass up there, and then that's a risk to the

759
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: surgeon if something like that breaks. It's not like everything's

760
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: this nice plastic easy thing to get out, and they

761
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: want to know not only that if it's glass, that

762
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: could cut the patient too, and they're pulling it out,

763
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: like they just want to know what it is so

764
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: they know what they're dealing with. This guy's eighty eight

765
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: years old, Okay, eighty eight years old, and he has

766
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: this thing up his butt that's this big. Like he's

767
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: been doing this a long time, and this might have

768
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: been his friend for a very very long time before

769
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: the internet even existed. Like think about this, Like this

770
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: guy didn't just like wake up at eighty eight years

771
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: old and say like, hey, let me try this. I

772
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: have this thing hanging around, Like you can't get something

773
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: that big up there without like working at it a while.

774
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: He was using this for a while, but this was

775
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: the first time it got stuck.

776
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, or he was using other stuff and gradually got

777
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: up to that level. Like it just would be very

778
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: for sexual you're doing it for sexual pleasure to feel good.

779
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Like I guess in theory, you could get that thing

780
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: up there on the first try, but like it definitely

781
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel good and nobody would would want to do that.

782
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: So I feel like he started smaller and like gradually

783
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: worked his way up to that thing.

784
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: I also feel like it's kind of irresponsible to take

785
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: a hundred year old piece of metal that's like rusty

786
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: and put it into either of your body.

787
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who knows. Who knows what the guy

788
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: was thinking and he could have been completely out of

789
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: his mind, who knows. But I just think about like

790
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: the bomb squad getting called for that and then going

791
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: in and then they determined that it was like a

792
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: low probability that it would explode inside of his body.

793
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: And do you think do you think they just said

794
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: that because they were like, yeah, we're we don't want

795
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: to talk about this anymore and we don't want to

796
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: be in this situation anymore, because like surgeas is like

797
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: totally normal, like they take things out of people's bots

798
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: all the time, but like you're just the bomb squad

799
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: person that's used to checking like something in a suspicious backpack,

800
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: like not not going to the hospital and thinking about

801
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: something in some old guy's ass, right, Yeah, I mean I.

802
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: Was really thinking about this because yesterday we wrote about

803
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Olympic bombing. So last night I watched the

804
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: movie Richard Jewel that Clint Eastwood made, which, by the way,

805
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: I was like blubbering crying the entire time.

806
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: It was so sad. That's so terrible.

807
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: But I was thinking about in the movie when they

808
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: showed the bomb squad checking out the backpack. How you know,

809
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: all they have to do is kind of like get

810
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: down to the flash it opened the flaps of a backpack.

811
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: Now assessed the rectum of an eighty eight year old

812
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: man and try to determine if the thing he stuck

813
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: up his butt willingly.

814
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure they that they got anywhere near

815
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: the patient, honestly, because there's nothing like from the average

816
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: person walking into an operating room. There's nothing that they

817
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: were going to be able to look at to determine

818
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: if it was if it was volatile or not. Like

819
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: it's just they had to just look, like do it

820
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: based on imaging. So maybe they just like pulled them

821
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: in a room in the hospital and were like, look

822
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: at this, because like looking at the guy isn't going

823
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: to do anything. And in this case, the thing was

824
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: so big, like there was no way they were getting

825
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: that out through his anus, So they had to cut

826
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: open an incision on his abdomen and go in through

827
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: the inside, cut his rectum open and take it out

828
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: that way. And he I mean, they said that he

829
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: was expected to heal and I mean, you're eighty eight

830
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: and you're getting colon surgery and he'll be fine, I guess.

831
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: But do you think he'll get in trouble because the

832
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 2: emergency room had to be evacuated in the inconvenience that caused.

833
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: I mean we're like, do you I mean, I think

834
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: people can legally own things like this.

835
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: It's war memory. I don't don't get in trouble. I mean,

836
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: he wasn't intentionally trying to hurt people, like it just

837
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: was like and like I said, like he could have

838
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: been doing this for years and just never had an

839
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: issue and just didn't think anything of it. Like I

840
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: don't think he was. It's not like he went in

841
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: and was like I have something that can explode in

842
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: my orifice and like like trying to start like a

843
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: terroristic act or something.

844
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean kind of the most surprising start part of

845
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: this story for me was that an eighty eight year

846
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: old man was this sexually active.

847
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: No I get. I'm telling you. The very first, the

848
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: very first rectal foreign body I got before I even

849
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: understood what was happening, was I got a traveled toothbrush

850
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: holder on a seventy eight year old man and I

851
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: was just so blown away, like I couldn't understand. It

852
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: was covered in poop and it was just nasty. And

853
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: then when I went to talk to one of the

854
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: pathologist about it, he was the one that sat me

855
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: down and was just like, oh no, it's always men

856
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: and this is why.

857
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, they were like eve, little Nicole, Oh.

858
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly that, yes, exactly, And.

859
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: They sure were opened after that, and then you got

860
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: twenty five more that month because you worked at a

861
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: huge hospital.

862
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: And yes, I mean it doesn't matter what hospital I

863
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: ever worked at. It's it's a community hospital, large hospital.

864
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: You still get like everybody's the same all over, which

865
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: is amazing. You know, like guys like butt pleasure in

866
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: the burbs and they like it in the big city too.

867
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: So I think the moral of this story is the

868
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Internet exists. There's you know, cardboard boxes from Amazon. Just

869
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: order a dildo that's designed for this online instead of

870
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: miscellaneous items, especially not weaponry, because not only are you

871
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: hurting yourself, but you're freaking everybody around you out so chilling.

872
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: And this this post is called as long as it

873
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a dick.

874
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, And it's true all right. Our last one

875
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: is called your garden can Kill You. And this one

876
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: really worries me about you because every day when I

877
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: get to your house, you're out there doing some type

878
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: of gardening and you're always wearing you know, you're kind

879
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: of turning into momm with your inappropriate shoe wearing situation.

880
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: We always make fun of Mama because she's wearing sandals

881
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: always and she falls in them because she's wearing them

882
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: not in correct situations.

883
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be going We'll be going somewhere with my mom,

884
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Disney World's somewhere that you need

885
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: to walk a lot in one day. And she'll come

886
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: over with like wedge sandals on or something, and we're

887
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: just like we have to tell her, like she's a child,

888
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: like are you gonna be comfortable walking in those shoes

889
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: all day? Is there a chance you could get blisters?

890
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: Or like I feel like I say that to the

891
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: children before we go on a hike or something like

892
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: let's make sure you put on something that's like not

893
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna give you blisters, and it's it's gonna protect your feet.

894
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Like but third nine and eleven, like she's she's like

895
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: an old lady, and we still have to have this

896
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: talk with her.

897
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I even saw over the weekend at the

898
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: cabin that you were wearing sandals when you were going

899
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: down those stones, which.

900
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Are not easy to walk down, by the way. Yeah,

901
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: but I was. I was getting ready to go stand

902
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: in the creek. I wanted to have like bare feet.

903
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: But what if you trip?

904
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: This is my point, Like you came over my house

905
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: with a balisio. You were being very nice, good mom, putting

906
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: a wallpaper for me by my back door, and you're

907
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: wearing rubber slides on a ladder, which is dangerous too.

908
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm getting worried about your shoe heabits. I think you're

909
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: turning into bed.

910
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: I will well, Yeah, I guess I do that outside

911
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: all the time because they're like my comfortable shoes, and

912
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: my feet get wet when I'm gardening and stuff. So

913
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I just don't want to have like that gross wet

914
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: sock feeling.

915
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, this is why this worries me, because in this story,

916
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: this guy was on a ladder, just doing gardening like

917
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: you do every day, and he slipped and fell, and

918
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: he fell on this aluminum steak that was holding up

919
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: his tomato plant.

920
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when they arrived at the scene, this guy

921
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: has literally has been impelled by an aluminum steak through

922
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: his chest and he's dead, laying on the ground in

923
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: front of his tomato plants. And there's a bunch of

924
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: other tomato plants with similar aluminum steaks, and he's laying

925
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: on the ground right next to a ladder. So it

926
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: was clear that that is what happened when they did

927
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: the investigation and everything, and when they did the autopsy,

928
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: they found that it went through his left chest and

929
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: it punctured his lung, and it punctured his A order

930
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: and it was eleven inches or twenty seven centimeters deep

931
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: into his body. Like it just it impelled him, that's

932
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: what happened. And when it went through the A order,

933
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, it just caused him to have a massive

934
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: internal bleeding and that's how he died blood to death.

935
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: I saw in the autopsy photos that the steak was

936
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: still in him when they were dissecting him. Why did

937
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: they leave it in?

938
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Well, they want because if you have a person and

939
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: we lay them down and they have the steak inside

940
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: of their chest and then we take it out, then

941
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: you're not really going to be able to see as

942
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: much of like where it went, where it landed, the

943
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: damage that was done. We typically when we do an autopsy,

944
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: even when we're trying to check like the medical interventions

945
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: that a person had, like if they had like a

946
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: trake tube or something like that, Like we don't take

947
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: anything out until we open them up and see where

948
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: it is, because otherwise you can't tell like what if

949
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: that thing like went in and kind of like I

950
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: don't know, missed his heart and he really just had

951
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: a heart attack and fell and that was just like

952
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: it just so happened it like second, yeah, which I mean,

953
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: it's still I guess it's still possible that the guy

954
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: had a heart attack and fell. But what I'm saying

955
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: is like that's they do that all the time, Like

956
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: you don't want to pull something out just because you

957
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: want to see the track. And it's cool in the

958
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: autopsy photos that you could see like a side view

959
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: that they show you how it went through the skin

960
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: and like exactly like the track it went to and

961
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: what killed him. But honestly, like if they pulled it out,

962
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: it would have been obvious that his aorta got punctured

963
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: and was bleeding all over the place, so it doesn't

964
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: really matter. But sometimes they just do that for effect,

965
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: for photos or just documentation purposes. Yeah, I was just.

966
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: Trying to think about how they transported that person from

967
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: where they found them to the morgue without having any

968
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: issues of it falling.

969
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Out because it was stuck in there. It looked. Yeah,

970
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: but that that happens sometimes too, Like think about we

971
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of cases in the grocer room too,

972
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: of like people, we have one case I was thinking

973
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: about talking about, like you know those trucks that like

974
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: carry timber, like those things like sometimes the big piece

975
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: of timber, like a giant tree trunk basically like can

976
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: slide and go through someone's chest and they're still alive

977
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: and survive the accident. So usually or anytime somebody's impelled

978
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: with something like the first responders are cut off as

979
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: much of it as they can and still leave it

980
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: in place. And especially when a person's alive, you have

981
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: to transfer them to the hospital because once you pull

982
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: it out like that thing could be like plugging blood

983
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: from pouring out of one of their vessels, So you

984
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: really have to leave it in there and transport people

985
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: like that like all the time.

986
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of crazy. I just never

987
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: thought about. I mean, the pictures for me were compelling

988
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: because it was still inside of him. So I'm just

989
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: thinking about everybody involved that has to work to preserve

990
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: that being in his body and transport it without it

991
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 2: causing issues.

992
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: Well, especially in a case like this, Like, like it's

993
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: clear just looking at it that it's that it was

994
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: probably an accident, But like, how do you know that

995
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: he didn't get into a fight and some guy came

996
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: up and grabbed the steak and like stabbed it into

997
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: his chest and yeah, while he was gardening. I mean,

998
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: that's totally a possibility. So with their investigation and stuff,

999
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: they determined that that was what happened because he didn't

1000
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: have any evidence of a struggle or anything like that.

1001
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,120
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1002
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1008
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Speaker 1: level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education. I

1009
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1010
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