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Speaker 1: the legendary artists we've lost, stories of Tupac, Biggie, Prodigy
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Speaker 1: Top Quality, Uncle Luke, and more so on behalf of
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Speaker 1: the special Memorial Day episode. Let's just get right into it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with these classic Tupac stories and your
Speaker 1: hats man queue that up. Motherfucker's let's make some motherfucking
Speaker 1: nor let's go. Everybody was in the sale, his billboard
Speaker 1: was cut out in the sale. He wasn't even on
Speaker 1: there for or talked about being on Therefore, we just
Speaker 1: did that as a symbolar representing him and fucking with
Speaker 1: him because he was my friend. So that was, you know,
Speaker 1: a play that I did to put him in there
Speaker 1: to represent it. Wait, so you're saying he was your
Speaker 1: friends saying I'm the reason why he was on that phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that he was my friend and my thing was speaking
Speaker 1: with Sugar because after he had got shot, I had
Speaker 1: flew to New York like the next day, and it
Speaker 1: was like ship was going bad for him and he
Speaker 1: had got locked up, and I was, man, should we
Speaker 1: need to put that nigga with us? Because how far
Speaker 1: back is y'all? Spencer Uh Poetic Justice Rap Party was
Speaker 1: the first night I met him, and then we became friends.
Speaker 1: And actually MC breed Rest in Peace was was trying
Speaker 1: to buy some dope and I knew the nigga. That
Speaker 1: knew the nigga, So Breede got some dope for me
Speaker 1: and DC and Breede was cool and Tupac and that's
Speaker 1: how we all became like a circle of friends. Crazy
Speaker 1: believe it, this is crazy. Ain't gonna lie. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I got so so a hip hop mode
Speaker 1: fans just now. I was just saying, I'm a guy.
Speaker 1: I was I was supposed to ask a question at
Speaker 1: this point, Like I was just sitting there like I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking, like so um, all right, boom that Pop
Speaker 1: comes here, He's already there, y'all already doing what he's doing.
Speaker 1: These these records come out, these records, these records. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you this, so you know, all lives on me.
Speaker 1: When he gets out, I'm working on the dog Fothering.
Speaker 1: So when he get out, my cousin Dads is like
Speaker 1: my number one supply because Drake dre basically like not
Speaker 1: really giving up music because I think he on his
Speaker 1: way out, but we already going thanks for doing in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. So so we're working on my record. So
Speaker 1: when he get out, naturally, I tell Dad's in the
Speaker 1: whole crew pod getting out, y'all throw cuzz all of
Speaker 1: the music, get him right first. So he ended up
Speaker 1: getting all this hot music because we was in the
Speaker 1: process of doing Hot Ship. And then Pop brought a
Speaker 1: spirit to the studio that was different than anybody we
Speaker 1: ever worked with. He had a work spirit that was
Speaker 1: like this nigga could be in three different rooms at
Speaker 1: one time and making music and he would he would
Speaker 1: never listen to it. Like we was always we would
Speaker 1: we learned this from Dr Dre. We would make a song,
Speaker 1: we would listen to that motherfucker for a whole month.
Speaker 1: I mean just back to back, thirty days just listening
Speaker 1: to the same goddamn song, party and inviting bitches over
Speaker 1: off the sun had even about yeah and then never
Speaker 1: come out. Nigga. Tupac was like, Nigga, when we make
Speaker 1: a song, when we finish it, when you're listening to
Speaker 1: that ship, pull another beat up. We're doing another motherfucking song.
Speaker 1: You can mix that motherfucking when you finished, we'll listen
Speaker 1: to it. He was never about like even when we
Speaker 1: made one song, motherfucker the last verse, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: all right, playing bad. We played it down from top
Speaker 1: to bottom. As soon as that motherfucker cut off, all right,
Speaker 1: give it to the engineer, pull the next beat up.
Speaker 1: Never did we listen to a song twice with that nigga.
Speaker 1: That's something that I learned from him that I take
Speaker 1: with me today because I wasn't like that. I was.
Speaker 1: I learned from Dr Dre. I learned from my teacher.
Speaker 1: They taught me exactly. But Pop was on something like
Speaker 1: Nigga fun that we're going, We're going, We're going, We're going.
Speaker 1: How are you thinking? They made three albums and motherfucking
Speaker 1: ship six months. That's Gemini, by the way, that's geminism,
Speaker 1: a Gemini. But I'm a labor all right, what's all?
Speaker 1: We can know yourself, virgo, I'm a virgo. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it means anything for this makes a noise
Speaker 1: for the sign that snoop listening, listen Snoop. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you so much. We're gonna, we gotta,
Speaker 1: we gotta go the ball. I'm not telling all actually
Speaker 1: do what I want to a mid interview. I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you because you know what, it's the
Speaker 1: first time artists like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know it's running media right now, like right now
Speaker 1: we are running in DJ and DJ. I'm sorry when
Speaker 1: I say I represent the motherfucking DJ. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: You always gotta have a meskin around you. You listen,
Speaker 1: everybody's from l A. You always. I'm from l A too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sound it's same ship. I'm originally say you always gotta
Speaker 1: kid and you know what, Pete Allas Dodge and the
Speaker 1: motherfucker you know what I'm saying, and it's the first
Speaker 1: time you know, you know we got you got g
Speaker 1: G in Yeah, So now do you I'm alway g
Speaker 1: g M when you're not there because we're gonna be
Speaker 1: in l A August Can I co host GM? Can
Speaker 1: we yes? Well cold because we're gonna be in the
Speaker 1: l A August twenty seven? So she don't do that.
Speaker 1: She's a movie star. Bitch ry pockets on that front.
Speaker 1: There he out so the bitches in hooplat because everybody
Speaker 1: wants to meet my nigger. You understand me, and you
Speaker 1: know I ain't no motherfucking hater. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to block I get out the white. So the bitch
Speaker 1: like you understand me, I would love to meet tupocket.
Speaker 1: That's all right with you. I'm like, bit just gonna
Speaker 1: always be all right? Now what were okay? Can listen?
Speaker 1: All the stars is at So now one night I'm
Speaker 1: in the club and uh, the bitch is there, and
Speaker 1: POX see the bit She like, man, I don't want
Speaker 1: to meet that bitch. Man, I say, hey, man, that's
Speaker 1: exactly how he described the bitch. That's my bit. I'll
Speaker 1: kindly introduce you to I walks over to him right
Speaker 1: and say, bitch, this is a Tupac Tupac meet the bit.
Speaker 1: So you know, after he meets a bit, you know,
Speaker 1: I walks off because you know, it ain't my job
Speaker 1: to stand there and see if they're gonna talk and
Speaker 1: kiss or whatnot, not take a biture. I walks off
Speaker 1: like a real player. I guess the exchange numbers. I
Speaker 1: don't know, so you haven't stand me. A few weeks later,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, slide by and go see her,
Speaker 1: because you know, she's a slide piece to me. So
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go see it on a late night
Speaker 1: like I normally do. You don't leave that back door
Speaker 1: open and I'm like, what what's in it? I'm finished
Speaker 1: slide through, you know what I'm saying. Lead that back
Speaker 1: there's open, and the bitch hit me with I don't
Speaker 1: think Pap would like that. This girl was BA for
Speaker 1: the record, right for the record. This girl we told
Speaker 1: about for real? That's what the bit for real? Madonna?
Speaker 1: Now that was Hey, that was Madonna. That look the
Speaker 1: nigga nigga that is. You don't think I'm making this
Speaker 1: ship up. I'm doing Saturday night lod in New York,
Speaker 1: they get documented nigga. When I had that Tommy hell
Speaker 1: figure shirt on the red, white and blue one, blew
Speaker 1: the motherfuck up. The shirt sold like a motherfucker right.
Speaker 1: So the nigga pot come and see me here in
Speaker 1: New York. He bring me some weed and he come
Speaker 1: backstage with the bitch Madonna Madonna for real, for real,
Speaker 1: about to feel like was he man? He brought the
Speaker 1: bitch just Saturday night. He d he was knocking the
Speaker 1: bitch man because he brought me some blood. Man, he
Speaker 1: had the bitch on his own. Man, and he wasn't
Speaker 1: even like floss from the bitch. He had him right here.
Speaker 1: Tupac and Big Daddy came other way around. Tupac hand Madonna,
Speaker 1: man cut down. This is this is this is the
Speaker 1: park in the So how did you feel a lot
Speaker 1: of people when when park passed and then you came
Speaker 1: to the scene, A lot of compared the compares. Then
Speaker 1: when he got no, they compared, how did you feels
Speaker 1: to that comparison? Some people get a fire. I should
Speaker 1: correct people as plainly as it could, Like the next part,
Speaker 1: I'm like no, I'm the first ax. They would say
Speaker 1: that great great say Thatt say that you know the
Speaker 1: next like no, I'm not the next anything, I'm the
Speaker 1: first and then and and it's pretty good. Um. Um.
Speaker 1: Actually had a chance to see Pop walking. He said that,
Speaker 1: Oh my god mine so on Hamm and Hamm and
Speaker 1: Hammon way off sunset and l that hotel look good
Speaker 1: And I saw him. It was a cool dude. He
Speaker 1: is cool. I said six, Oh wow, wow, you met
Speaker 1: real pop. Yeah right now, maybe you happy everybody dray
Speaker 1: boarders out there. Um he walked past. I see him.
Speaker 1: My man said, what up? What up? What up? Cool dude?
Speaker 1: You know? But I think I think I don't know
Speaker 1: what and and and and and and speaking as favorably
Speaker 1: as I can be, said one who was past. So
Speaker 1: someone who can't defend himself, I think, um, part of
Speaker 1: the problem, a big part of the problem was he
Speaker 1: didn't have what New York niggas got like uh uh
Speaker 1: from the office is my black bam. He had no one,
Speaker 1: He didn't have his crew. So one thing, you, yord nigga,
Speaker 1: I know for factors, you don't go to Cali and
Speaker 1: live there without like like having the goosepout like oh me,
Speaker 1: you could be the hardest thing in the world. But dude,
Speaker 1: don't go way over there without no one ever knew
Speaker 1: where he was from, where you from, with no avenue
Speaker 1: him from Oakland. He lived in Oakland, we lived. But
Speaker 1: where you're from somewhere you got to get that grew
Speaker 1: up with you, that had your back, that loved you
Speaker 1: since you was in kiddygard. I mean that fund with
Speaker 1: you for real and won't let you. I need to act, said,
Speaker 1: so I keep my dog with me, Doctor said, let
Speaker 1: him die. Shi this sucking dog. Baby. Sometimes you need
Speaker 1: that nigga with you. That that that that that that
Speaker 1: your men, that that that that you know what you'll
Speaker 1: see what you don't. It's easy to get caught up
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and he was like rich. I mean,
Speaker 1: he say, folty man Pop, want me to give you
Speaker 1: someumbing you want to funk what you may gave me?
Speaker 1: His number were connected there since then it was it
Speaker 1: was all love so um, y'all connected, and then like
Speaker 1: how many records y'all did they go? Let's see, Um,
Speaker 1: I got I got an unreleased track that ain't that
Speaker 1: we're working on right now. And then um we did
Speaker 1: working on. You're still talking to him? Um, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was saying, that's that we're working on now. I'm
Speaker 1: like I was talking, you know, because people still drinking
Speaker 1: a lot. He was really don't hit me the other day.
Speaker 1: He was a lot man. But I don't say he
Speaker 1: should appear Standford the Suckers ship, that's right, now make it.
Speaker 1: What's the south of water? What's the south of water that?
Speaker 1: What's the south of water? You don't need that that
Speaker 1: you drink this beer, you don't need that. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we called it mad Records together and we asked Uncle
Speaker 1: Luke this, I think we asked Snoop this, um, But
Speaker 1: what was the park that you you you enjoyed more
Speaker 1: the pot? And Luke had an interesting take on rolling
Speaker 1: Hennessey drinking. But that before he was the same with
Speaker 1: me at every time. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was all love. Man. If
Speaker 1: he funk with you, he fucked with you. If you
Speaker 1: don't funk with you, he'd call you out here, say
Speaker 1: your name and anything. That's what That's what he specialized in.
Speaker 1: He going, he say funk that I'm saying names, ain't
Speaker 1: none of that. Yes me this and ship you feel me?
Speaker 1: So I had to give it to him on that.
Speaker 1: But he had a reason for all the ship he
Speaker 1: you know he was he was saying, he wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1: He wasn't crazy. Brilliant. So what's your favorite, tuopoc? Maybe
Speaker 1: you tell me your favorite your favorite time being around?
Speaker 1: I got a few, but I know you'll probably see
Speaker 1: it on on YouTube. In nine three, we had my
Speaker 1: practice looking hard video shoot and Het there through the
Speaker 1: whole video like this, you know, just you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he had that middle aude fuck you. But the thing
Speaker 1: isn't that he showed motherfucker's how this one blunts wasn't
Speaker 1: really y'all have been fucking with blunt New York, you know,
Speaker 1: because my partner from New Jersey, when I was at
Speaker 1: Grandma State University night to Fall eight, six eighty seven,
Speaker 1: he uh, this motherfucker take a Philly blunt, and the
Speaker 1: way he did it it was it was the full blunt,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he had gout it.
Speaker 1: He had just take all the ship out of it
Speaker 1: and then stuff it with some booble weed, right just
Speaker 1: because that's all we had at Graham some booble with
Speaker 1: stuff that motherfucking and and tie the end up like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, win it up, and that's
Speaker 1: how they did it. Back that that was the That's
Speaker 1: the first time I've seen a blunt roll so pop,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying here on and my video shooting,
Speaker 1: he's sitting on the little bench. We I'm over there
Speaker 1: smoking a beating. I don't know if y'all know what
Speaker 1: sot A lot of balls back here over the world.
Speaker 1: He he got, I'm Strong is doing this bad Boy mixtape.
Speaker 1: Remember you remember it was the Bad Boys. I don't remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what this, this is what is originally for.
Speaker 1: So so it was a freestyle in a sense and
Speaker 1: in the sense it was a freestyle. So um. That
Speaker 1: day a dude named Chaz from my hood. I remember
Speaker 1: he was the flying snigger from my hood. But he
Speaker 1: was the craziest snigger. Right. So, so chads this outside
Speaker 1: like he confused. He playing me New York, New York.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you think they're this on us? So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I go to Queensbridge right
Speaker 1: to meet up. We happened to, you know, be there
Speaker 1: and stretch on. Strong calls and says, let's come to
Speaker 1: the studio. So you had I think you had the
Speaker 1: Turkquoise blazer. Yes I did. Yeah, I read a little
Speaker 1: good the Turkoise blazes that that that the listen just
Speaker 1: in case y'all thinking about blazer out back then, A
Speaker 1: blazer was like a memory. I can't tell you what
Speaker 1: happened yesterday, but I can tell you. Come up. I
Speaker 1: remember this. So everybody we met at stretched on Strong's
Speaker 1: crib and um, I think back then, having had already
Speaker 1: gave us beat, but we ain't put nothing now but
Speaker 1: the originals on the original Dog Pound beat. So this
Speaker 1: is what happened, I stretched, Black. Yeah, I think we
Speaker 1: had already did so what no no, no, no no
Speaker 1: no no. So what happened is this is l A
Speaker 1: l A. So what happened? Um, stretch, I said, the stretch? Yo.
Speaker 1: I remember Chas had just played me this, so I
Speaker 1: asked him he was on something called a DJ list
Speaker 1: back then, back in the days, you could send somebody
Speaker 1: a record and two months in advance and your ship
Speaker 1: wouldn't be bootlegs. You know what I'm saying, Because if
Speaker 1: he was on a DJ list, it was just so
Speaker 1: I asked Stressed to pull it up. We heard New
Speaker 1: York when we couldn't determine if they were dissing us
Speaker 1: or not, So technically we didn't dis them. We just rhymed.
Speaker 1: Correct the video I always always, but I remember it
Speaker 1: was Prodigies verse. They took it because he said, Um,
Speaker 1: he said JFK on our way to l A M
Speaker 1: M and remember remember, and then he used that on
Speaker 1: y'all album later, But the original L A L A
Speaker 1: were all five of us. Prodigy said, n y C,
Speaker 1: you and our verse supremacy, Havoc and pret queens Nigga,
Speaker 1: so it's seemed to be Mega got word back from Noriega.
Speaker 1: And that was on original L A l A. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break it down. He did that on right,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on somewhere else. No, it versus somewhere else,
Speaker 1: but it was originally on L A l A. He
Speaker 1: took it off. And when he took it off, we
Speaker 1: remember we're calling Steve Riffis. Steve looking was like, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a part of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't even make a noise to happen.
Speaker 1: Who I didn't You stayed a part of yah makes
Speaker 1: a noise to happen? Say it. But from what I heard, now,
Speaker 1: I never heard this from Prodigy or or Steve Rifkin myself,
Speaker 1: but from what I heard, Steve Riffers said, Prodigy, you
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. And then the first came
Speaker 1: off the week that the day that we shot the
Speaker 1: video is the day it came out, and you was
Speaker 1: only supposed to come to the video, and then Prodigy
Speaker 1: showed that he was there. He was in the video.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right because it was it was so
Speaker 1: he did his first in the video. No, no, it
Speaker 1: was like he was just like l A l A
Speaker 1: big city. Yeah right, but you're saying it wasn't a
Speaker 1: distract who said that? No? No, But then because that
Speaker 1: intro was this no yeah yeah yeah that that was replaced.
Speaker 1: But but we heard it. We all heard it. But
Speaker 1: then that sound like live nigga rack, that was it.
Speaker 1: Then he that's when he used that person. That's when
Speaker 1: he used that person. But originally and then here's my question,
Speaker 1: is Tupac came at y'all you know this is my record?
Speaker 1: Did you have at one point when it's be like yeah,
Speaker 1: that's question. But I didn't give a fuck because I
Speaker 1: was like, because what did you do? Um? What was
Speaker 1: the record? I loved the racket. It just dropped it
Speaker 1: too late when you went back and dropped the gym on.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I didn't kid because I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this nigga. Tupac then from Juice, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like saying that name. So I was like, fuck, like,
Speaker 1: who gives the fuck? You know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 1: we got like a hundred queensman, well fucking kill you.
Speaker 1: But I love But did you did you realize how
Speaker 1: beef that I mean, how big that it was? Like
Speaker 1: like it was, it was huge, Like for Tupac to
Speaker 1: dis you, it's like you you go platinum or something like,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it real. That's how I think was it
Speaker 1: was the original, but I wanted to everything. I was
Speaker 1: like you, But then I thought about I said, I
Speaker 1: was super broke at that moment, so I couldn't have
Speaker 1: thought no Tupac beaf, but they came. It's a fact
Speaker 1: one nigga. Like at one point on one arm, I
Speaker 1: was mad that he just then other arm, I was like,
Speaker 1: holy ship, I white my sweat, but y'all went back.
Speaker 1: I didn't give him, you didn't give drop with gym,
Speaker 1: and we did drop a gym on it because I
Speaker 1: because I always thought that like, even if we did
Speaker 1: see each other, it was gonna be like whatever, it
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be the real ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We come from the hood, so the real ship is
Speaker 1: in the hood and these other niggas is rapids. You know,
Speaker 1: this is real ship right there. It's real ship. You know.
Speaker 1: The fans and the people wanted to notice l A story.
Speaker 1: This is dope. Like when you my radio when the
Speaker 1: l A l A Ship was out. Believe me, we
Speaker 1: was going to l A under aliases, like when we
Speaker 1: couldn't just because Biggie got killed. Remember this time, that's
Speaker 1: true this time. What's the chronological order of that? Though?
Speaker 1: So when L A A came out? What years after
Speaker 1: ninety six? Right, and Biggie had died? When ninety six? No, no,
Speaker 1: not Google Google because the record because diverse Biggie. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we need the Google. So this is way before Big Been,
Speaker 1: Biggie and Pop die right, Yeah, Big for sure was
Speaker 1: the ninety seven alright six months later. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 1: still ninety seven. But still what you said you went
Speaker 1: alias names. All I know is I remember like when
Speaker 1: all of that, when all of that stuff was going down,
Speaker 1: it was the East Coast, West Coast beach. Somebody probably
Speaker 1: didn't even die yet, you understand what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: when they did die, you understand, it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: bulletproof cause names under alias is. But California is a
Speaker 1: market that you have to be in just sell records.
Speaker 1: It's like a huge market and it's one of our
Speaker 1: number one markets to this day. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you can agree. I love California. I'm
Speaker 1: out there, I got it. I got a crib about this.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, make some noise for havoc flaws.
Speaker 1: Having your old storm, nick, I just teach you. You
Speaker 1: have it rolled up in a yellow cab. Let's make
Speaker 1: some noise for that nigga. You gotta that's some old
Speaker 1: school because because because my Uber account was compromised the
Speaker 1: way you know, so when I used my Uba, somebody knows.
Speaker 1: You have to explain this because I want to watch
Speaker 1: out for this. I don't even want to explain it.
Speaker 1: But somebody knows. I'm using computers one day. One time
Speaker 1: you got tapped, right, they said that you said ship
Speaker 1: like you're not good with computers. You need to keep
Speaker 1: the original. That's that's a segue, like you ain't sing up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's those messages true? Like let's just keep it real.
Speaker 1: That's just don't matter. If you seen the messages I
Speaker 1: send the compone ship. It's so good. It's the same ship.
Speaker 1: It might not you went a little too far. I
Speaker 1: did call them a fact and all that you were
Speaker 1: a little too far. Don't come down there with the
Speaker 1: shoot heavy dal with there was a shoot, was heavy.
Speaker 1: He was involved like he he wasn't shooting, but he was.
Speaker 1: Now in your opinion, you both knowing Pocket and Big,
Speaker 1: there's very few people who know Pocket and Big. There's
Speaker 1: people who know Pop great, and of people who know
Speaker 1: Big a little bit, people who know Big a lot,
Speaker 1: people who know Pop a little bit. But you know
Speaker 1: them both for them, do you think they could have
Speaker 1: ever squashed that? Like yeah, I mean on the People
Speaker 1: Show when Pop got out of jail, I Pop, then
Speaker 1: I would an interview Biggie, and then through the interviewing
Speaker 1: process of it, it was more like I was interviewing them,
Speaker 1: but I was like Nigga chilling funk out, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was more of me having a conversation with
Speaker 1: them about chilling fun out. You too, Motherucker's need to
Speaker 1: make money. This ship is about money, y'all taking this
Speaker 1: too to the extreme, because you know, I was in St.
Speaker 1: Louis doing a show with Big and Big out there.
Speaker 1: You know, motherfucker's they wanted did this Pop on stage
Speaker 1: and they were boring. You know, I'm I'm sitting up
Speaker 1: there like you know, I'm like, okay, you know the
Speaker 1: mediator and the whole ship, like and Big when this
Speaker 1: so then I when I interviewed, uh when when I
Speaker 1: interviewed pop Pop was just going crazy, you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, this girl and did this and and then
Speaker 1: that and all this, And I'm like, so when interview
Speaker 1: over there looking at man, you need to chill the
Speaker 1: funk out, you know what I'm saying. You know, so
Speaker 1: many of them had you know, we could talk because
Speaker 1: I know him before he linked up with you know,
Speaker 1: with the Death Row dudes. I know him when he
Speaker 1: was with did you Don't Underground? You know? So I
Speaker 1: know this young dude, he you know, on something black
Speaker 1: power ship. You know, I know where he's coming from.
Speaker 1: So you know, you ain't on what you you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you change? What are you doing? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? You're you on that, you know,
Speaker 1: on that black man ship with you, which is I
Speaker 1: know how that's how you raised. You're always on that.
Speaker 1: You don't know do nothing other black man. So you know,
Speaker 1: we had that conversation and you know, I want to
Speaker 1: go in interview Biggie Big Ones say one word about it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Big One, you talk big you know Big Ones say nothing.
Speaker 1: It was like nine nine, you know, he just kept
Speaker 1: it like, uh, Kevin, like really one hundred. So it
Speaker 1: was it was they were they were gonna talk, you
Speaker 1: know after me. If I had the conversation with both
Speaker 1: of them, you know, they were gonna talk. But then
Speaker 1: for some reason, you knew Pop pre Death Roll, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then what's that after? Right? Well? Which which park
Speaker 1: you related to more? The park before before Death Roll Underground.
Speaker 1: It's all like it's almost like two different people totally
Speaker 1: to different people totally. Man, I can relate. I'm a Gemini,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's almost like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: young dude, you know, hanging out with a cooler people,
Speaker 1: then you conform into that crew. You know. That's why always,
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm working with kids, I tell kids,
Speaker 1: don't be no following. You know, in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm thinking about, you know, them soldiers who
Speaker 1: like pop. You know what I'm saying, You gotta be
Speaker 1: your old man. You can't get caught up in you know,
Speaker 1: the ship somebody else trying to do. You think Pop
Speaker 1: was following though in that sense you do, you don't
Speaker 1: think I think he had a plan to get out
Speaker 1: of that situation or change the trajectory of what he
Speaker 1: was trying to do. That's what everybody, well, when you
Speaker 1: when you when you when you want some real black
Speaker 1: man ship, like better got a baby, and then you
Speaker 1: go overhead, not not not exactly bring. I mean he
Speaker 1: was deep. He was deep. He was on some real
Speaker 1: black man ship, you know, black power black like this.
Speaker 1: He was on some deep black man And then so
Speaker 1: now you get linked up with this crew on that
Speaker 1: on some different ship, then you conformed to be like that.
Speaker 1: You feel me? So I knew him before that. You know,
Speaker 1: there's this young man. We're just trying to get on,
Speaker 1: trying to get this music here, trying to do the
Speaker 1: right thing. I'm on some black man ship. He was more,
Speaker 1: he was more deeper than then public Enemy then public Enemy,
Speaker 1: that black man ship. So then I when you go
Speaker 1: and you linked with this crew here, then you kind
Speaker 1: of conformed to that. And then now you got whole
Speaker 1: crew of and you had already had beef for death Roll,
Speaker 1: so you knew what type of mind sticky. Yeah it was,
Speaker 1: you know it was you know, it was like on
Speaker 1: some you know, we tough guyship. So then now you
Speaker 1: got this young guy that's really you know, just searching
Speaker 1: for a family. You bring me in and before you
Speaker 1: know it, he conformed into you know, it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: become a product of your environment. So he became a
Speaker 1: product of that environment before we moved on to that.
Speaker 1: You ever hung out with Pun as well? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how was how was it hanging out Pun? Fun? Pun
Speaker 1: and Joe? I remember, you know when I first met Joe.
Speaker 1: You know, I went to the went to the fucking
Speaker 1: club and uh the Puerto Rican club story, let's get it.
Speaker 1: So I go to club, hang out with Joe Bunton,
Speaker 1: Joe beat the ship out of some club like this
Speaker 1: motherfucker is so up. Some motherfucker like what the fund
Speaker 1: is this? Right? But but after that, I mean we
Speaker 1: end up doing something together and uh and some of
Speaker 1: the other guys in the group. Next up is from
Speaker 1: episode eighty six of Drink Champs. We sat down with
Speaker 1: the legendary film director John Singleton and man, what can
Speaker 1: I say, you know, it's it really hurt to to
Speaker 1: you know, to see John go, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: just really happy that that we had a chance to
Speaker 1: sit down with him. You know. It's it's never a
Speaker 1: good thing when when you know people leave, you know,
Speaker 1: it seems before their time. And just felt like John
Speaker 1: had a lot of things left to do. So it's uh,
Speaker 1: very unfortunate, and our condolences to his entire family and
Speaker 1: close friends. But we're grateful that we got the opportunity
Speaker 1: to sit down on him, really humble guy for everything
Speaker 1: he had accomplished. So in case you missed it, checkout
Speaker 1: episode eighty six with our guests John Singleton. Um. But
Speaker 1: here's some moments from it. You're so rich man, here
Speaker 1: we're here, you got yachts and all type of things,
Speaker 1: and you know what, you're humble god, but almost I'm
Speaker 1: a brag brag for brag for you man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. We want to listen. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know what our show was about. Giving all
Speaker 1: legends flowers when they can smell them, and treats when
Speaker 1: they get held them because our our society so much
Speaker 1: praise as a person after they die and I feel
Speaker 1: like that is so backwards. Yeah you should. I should
Speaker 1: be able to tell you how much I appreciate you
Speaker 1: right here, face to face man and man, as opposed
Speaker 1: to waiting for you to pass away and then be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. I mean and him party they
Speaker 1: in the back of the day. I should say that now,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. Like, And I actually
Speaker 1: learned that through Dave Chappelle, you know, when the way
Speaker 1: it was print and it was like he started praising
Speaker 1: Prince while Prince was alive. And it's just like, that's
Speaker 1: what we got to continue to do. And that's not
Speaker 1: just as a culture, that's as as people, like as
Speaker 1: human human beings. As human beings, we gotta start praising
Speaker 1: our people where they're here. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't working with Janet Jackson penny. You know, come on,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It was jerked off the penny a lot.
Speaker 1: Throw that out there. It was good. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's serious, the whole age thing. No, that was
Speaker 1: not serious. That was a joke that we was having
Speaker 1: on the set. Because the real talk is Tupac was
Speaker 1: attracted Dejane. I was attracted Jana the world. We're in
Speaker 1: the set, we're both trying to like, you know, floodwater
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm like, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, I should have you kissing on
Speaker 1: my actress because you know, you know, and fucking around
Speaker 1: doing all this ship. You know, Pope was just coming
Speaker 1: to his own then, right and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you know what, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do an as test for y'all, do this left scene.
Speaker 1: It was a joke, but he said, no, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's me saw not my nigger on the sun right before,
Speaker 1: just like talking ship and then we're like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: we should we should we should use this, we should
Speaker 1: put this out. And so that's what we did as
Speaker 1: a publicity thing. As a publicity thing, we just did that.
Speaker 1: But it's just like us talking. We got Jackson, but
Speaker 1: it was just us talking on the ship on the
Speaker 1: set and everything and this, and you know it was
Speaker 1: an inside joke. That's when it works. Now, not only
Speaker 1: did you get to work with Janet Jackson, if you
Speaker 1: got to work with the big man Mike Jackson, did
Speaker 1: he have a glove one when you met him? No,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a guy. He's where he wore the
Speaker 1: old fun I got a lot and he didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't's a crazy because in his in his problem was
Speaker 1: you see it Michael on on camera and suff he
Speaker 1: didn't talk the way that he talks, you know, and
Speaker 1: he said that Mike, Mike was a nigger, like Mike
Speaker 1: was like different, different and every tone and everything that
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that just that was an expectation that
Speaker 1: he put on for the cameras. He didn't he wouldn't
Speaker 1: talk about it. He was just a brother. He was
Speaker 1: different to every different to me and everything. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just like hey, you know. And he
Speaker 1: was really despite what he you know, he ended up
Speaker 1: doing to his face and his skin got lighter and everything.
Speaker 1: He was a real brother man. He was really about
Speaker 1: black people because I heard that video. He actually that
Speaker 1: was after Magic actually announced and he wanted to do
Speaker 1: something and Mike wanted Mike wanted Magic in the video.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, cal him Magic, Let's get him
Speaker 1: in the video. Remember the time, remember time. I hate
Speaker 1: that ship in my head, right, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I couldn't have met Michael Jackson. I would like I
Speaker 1: would have gave him. I would gave him a file
Speaker 1: too hard. Who oh not? U gave us the crazy
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson s. But so how was it? Was he
Speaker 1: a pure genius? Like was he everything? He was? His
Speaker 1: damn near genius? I mean dann mal genius. I mean
Speaker 1: like you know the things that that uh that he
Speaker 1: did and that he uh and that he wanted to
Speaker 1: do and stuff, you know, like unprecedented in this business.
Speaker 1: You know, have you ever been U starstruck? Yeah? Who who?
Speaker 1: You stought? I gotta hear this. I mean, I'm only
Speaker 1: bet star shot two times in my whole career. I
Speaker 1: need to hear both. Let's go for it. The first
Speaker 1: was meeting Steven Spielberg because it's like, you know, as
Speaker 1: a kid going up, you know, like he was, you know,
Speaker 1: the the young person that went on to make movies
Speaker 1: at an early age, and I wanted to be like that,
Speaker 1: Um just nervous, and you know I saw him and
Speaker 1: that as soon as I saw him and we met
Speaker 1: just it was like it was like, um, you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was as great. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: the godfather of filmmaking, of filmmaking, the second was what
Speaker 1: your prior, yea Richard Pribord, remember prior at the comedy store.
Speaker 1: I was, I used to hang out the comed store.
Speaker 1: As soon as you say you met Richard prior, I
Speaker 1: thought the comedy store and so uh And it's funny
Speaker 1: because Richard probably was hanging out with Opportina Comedy Club
Speaker 1: was Hollywood, are you here this with a Patine Richard
Speaker 1: with Opportunito And I can't even love that dope, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's throw that out there. I don't even
Speaker 1: look at Opportune. I'm looking at much private. But Richard
Speaker 1: used to have this do that work for him. Um.
Speaker 1: It came over to me, um and and he said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Richard would like to say hello to you.
Speaker 1: And I walked across from him, and Richard was kind
Speaker 1: of frail here. The ms was getting them, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't as bad. He wasn't wheelchah, it wasn't built. And
Speaker 1: he just said, uh, uh you know the young man
Speaker 1: that made that movie because boys in the Hood just
Speaker 1: came out. And I said, yes, sir, I am. And
Speaker 1: mind you because you're like me. You listen to every
Speaker 1: rich pri Mama had since birth. Curse he said, are
Speaker 1: you the man amant the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes against me a hut n. I just
Speaker 1: cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because
Speaker 1: this is a man. And then after that we became friends.
Speaker 1: I used to go up to his house and said,
Speaker 1: he'd be sitting up in the bed. You have a
Speaker 1: gun right by the side of his bad. This is
Speaker 1: mother got guns right next to and every comedian, Wayne's brothers,
Speaker 1: whoever it was, he pulled guns out. No, no other
Speaker 1: people will come through. They come through every day to
Speaker 1: pay homaged Richard. We hope you're enjoying the special Memorial
Speaker 1: Day episode of Drink Champs as we pay re BacT
Speaker 1: in homage and immoralized the life of these legendary artists.
Speaker 1: Up next. I mean, there's not much that that can
Speaker 1: be said that has it that isn't always said and
Speaker 1: and and just known about Biggie Smalls a K. The
Speaker 1: notorious b I g Um Big is just, you know,
Speaker 1: just bigger than life. He He's just one of those
Speaker 1: iconic figures in hip hop and you can't even just
Speaker 1: begin to imagine what he would have accomplished if he
Speaker 1: would still be here with us and what he could
Speaker 1: have done. Unfortunately, again an untimely death for such a
Speaker 1: great hip hop artists, just a great artist in general,
Speaker 1: but but for hip hop, it's just he was just
Speaker 1: monumental and so so iconic. So uh. These next stories
Speaker 1: come from Uncle Luke, E Forty, Puffy and Little Ces.
Speaker 1: Listen as they share their notorious b I G stories.
Speaker 1: You know, rest in peace, Biggie Smalls, Big Man, we
Speaker 1: love you man. Let's get into these stories. But he
Speaker 1: was in a car accident. He was in the car accident, okay,
Speaker 1: because you was like the drive I got heard Big
Speaker 1: never drove, never drove, never drove his life. Okay, So
Speaker 1: what happened he was we had got arrested um day
Speaker 1: before that. Let's make some noise of little Season, Big Game.
Speaker 1: We got arrested downtown Brooklyn or some bud and they
Speaker 1: took our truck. When we got the truck back that
Speaker 1: that Alexis. We got it back, the ship didn't work,
Speaker 1: so they had to ship the ship to the car dealership.
Speaker 1: We went to the next morning to pick up a loan.
Speaker 1: This car. It was a luminum van. Yeah. We we
Speaker 1: trade an Alexis car for a Lumino van and I
Speaker 1: was like, I shouldn't we get Alexus like he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride low, Let's just take this drive. And
Speaker 1: I jumped in that ship and were driving around this
Speaker 1: little just still a fork and the ship just sped
Speaker 1: out of control. I ran into a rail. How old
Speaker 1: were you at that? About sixteen? He was already driving,
Speaker 1: had no else driving dirty? This? K Rose would answered, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's what happened, and he funked up his leg.
Speaker 1: I had to get these gold fronts to a place,
Speaker 1: two joints that was sucked up. That's why he had
Speaker 1: to put down the rhyme. And uh time in the
Speaker 1: radio station where he said that rhyme, was that the
Speaker 1: first time you heard that rhyme? I heard the song?
Speaker 1: She already yeah, you already. I had to accept that
Speaker 1: one though, you know what I mean. I took one
Speaker 1: for the team, right so now also right, uh? I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask this question. Um this this comes via
Speaker 1: shot him read. I believe he said, what were big
Speaker 1: his plans for the Commission album with Jay? Who else
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in that group? What label was
Speaker 1: supposed to be on? And who was supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the commission. Commission he had no label idea for yet,
Speaker 1: so he didn't know what label he's gonna do it on.
Speaker 1: It probably gonna be on Undear that was his label.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna do it on that, depending on part
Speaker 1: what Jay was gonna do. But the commission was me,
Speaker 1: Jay Z, Charlie Baltimore Big and No just don't play
Speaker 1: like the boss of it, but tells his way of
Speaker 1: like pushing Charlie out. He was gonna push Charlie through
Speaker 1: the through the commission ships. So that's how he was
Speaker 1: gonna break that down. I actually spoke to on the
Speaker 1: other day and it was crazy because unset to me.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, it's a crazy ship, Nori. Nobody's
Speaker 1: never interviewed him about Big, like he was his business
Speaker 1: part enough and people didn't this is so you know,
Speaker 1: doing drink chance like he had to sit there and
Speaker 1: just think about it, and it was like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: know what, Nobody never really asks me about Big, because well,
Speaker 1: I guess what happened after Big, because Cam was supposed
Speaker 1: to be signed to you guys, Yeah, because Cam was
Speaker 1: actually BIG's artist and the poem Yes, yes, you gotta
Speaker 1: tell the I'm taking too. I was so scared. I
Speaker 1: was so scared of of Big because that's all I
Speaker 1: listened to. That's all I was listened to with jail.
Speaker 1: So I seen him in from the Hot thirty seven
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, he asked something. He asked
Speaker 1: to rhyme and that was schill but compone did rob
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, I'm making you junior Mafia
Speaker 1: tomorrow words. And I was so hated. I was like
Speaker 1: he was trying to he was trying to get the squad.
Speaker 1: Now she was always yeah, she used to always put us,
Speaker 1: put us on your you know what. The crazy ship
Speaker 1: was um been Big been Big in the movie when
Speaker 1: Big is making these last phone calls, the crazy ship
Speaker 1: was Big had called me and he played me t
Speaker 1: or and why And I was like, he called you.
Speaker 1: He called me and was like be your favorite records.
Speaker 1: One I'm working with this and at the top two
Speaker 1: or was not I swow im figuring me Big And
Speaker 1: I told he didn't put two and two together that
Speaker 1: Now she was a bad way to do something. So
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you're imagine that like getting that call
Speaker 1: and I'm worried about my sea bootleg it's over me.
Speaker 1: But so now see you didn't been your whole childhood,
Speaker 1: so did you? Was he always the best wrapper alive?
Speaker 1: Or you knew you knew he was? He was nice
Speaker 1: back then. I just knew from the rip he was dope.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like, we didn't
Speaker 1: think he was gonna be to the level of what
Speaker 1: it is now or when he became even when he
Speaker 1: was like when he was out, I mean, we didn't
Speaker 1: think it was that. But he was nice and it
Speaker 1: was to come through the look difference between five years.
Speaker 1: So he uh brother, Yeah, when he was twenty, I
Speaker 1: was fickteen years old, just running around. He took me
Speaker 1: out the street since I was eleven, you know him,
Speaker 1: since I was like five six years old and I
Speaker 1: was in public school. She on street and then the
Speaker 1: number five years, I was on that same strip trying
Speaker 1: to hustle and do all that ship and he seen
Speaker 1: that ship with me like that ain't just the funk
Speaker 1: out of here now I'm gonna tak me. Took me
Speaker 1: out of that that one. And you know what's funny,
Speaker 1: A lot of people give jay Z credit for, like,
Speaker 1: you know, putting like a lot of his friends on.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't really realize that Big
Speaker 1: did that first from that camp camera on little cs
Speaker 1: Charlie Baltimore, little kid want some ship. Um he got
Speaker 1: carew chain and all that big he had the club
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, he was doing checkob out there doing Big
Speaker 1: Ship and all that came from just be getting put on,
Speaker 1: set up for all the pipelines for anybody to do.
Speaker 1: What's that Stan from the beginning was like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get on. And then because then you had you had
Speaker 1: that album. What's that album? That was like one of
Speaker 1: the most slept on albums? Why do you think people
Speaker 1: slept on that album? I just think Atlantic then push it.
Speaker 1: I don't think they push it the right way, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And the money that we had
Speaker 1: that they gave us, we used it wrong on expensive videos,
Speaker 1: dollars eight thousand dollar videos. And once you do that
Speaker 1: first video don't work, they don't want to shoot no
Speaker 1: more videos. They're like, no, that's what happened. Another two weeks,
Speaker 1: another month, ship don't move and they just kind of
Speaker 1: just let it go, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: as long as people liked it and accepted it, it
Speaker 1: was cool with that. What I'm saying, I always wanted
Speaker 1: to ask, like crush on you video? Right? That was
Speaker 1: like the first time we've seen a female change wigs,
Speaker 1: Like did you like she like? Like you like chance?
Speaker 1: It's like was was was that's something that y'all was
Speaker 1: like this is dope? Or was he? Because you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes to be skeptic or something didn't work, you'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I knew it all along, but you know the
Speaker 1: stop like this is a risk us as little nigger
Speaker 1: as we just sat around and just let that was.
Speaker 1: That was Big getting Undershot, like to do the partnership
Speaker 1: with unders and under one that was doing the ideas
Speaker 1: for the videos. Did all our videos get money? Players?
Speaker 1: Anthem much on you? We just we just did what
Speaker 1: we're saying to do. Yeah, he directed all those videos.
Speaker 1: That was that was That was his way in the business.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, experience nothing straight. Then it
Speaker 1: came straight from the streets straight trapp and went from
Speaker 1: hustling and went behind the cambra and was like y'all
Speaker 1: got some ideas and Big trusted them and all them
Speaker 1: ships just happened to pop and they and they rocked Fords.
Speaker 1: We didn't say no. We just played opposition. Do you
Speaker 1: want me to go? Go ahead? Go ahead? And just
Speaker 1: so happened the ship actually the ship blew up what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that was just all within ups. That
Speaker 1: was all the fam team. We was like big. We
Speaker 1: was like big Guinea. We was his creation. He was
Speaker 1: learning all that ship from Puff and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't taking dreaming off here of the Puff. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my own thing. Let me see if
Speaker 1: I couldn't learn without learned from him, and let me
Speaker 1: set everybody like why you didn't sound they try? Even
Speaker 1: at that time he was trying to spread rumors like big,
Speaker 1: but I always seem big cool. We've just always been
Speaker 1: like a second family that you know. That was big,
Speaker 1: That was bey ship, and I'm trying to be I
Speaker 1: created us to a whole another pipe line. Everything he
Speaker 1: learned from Puff, he kind of tested it with us
Speaker 1: and the ship working. Goddamn, what do you think? What
Speaker 1: do you think be O's next move would have been?
Speaker 1: Like like because like because like he was one thinks monumental,
Speaker 1: So what was his next move would have been? Had
Speaker 1: he he's been on His whole thing was the music.
Speaker 1: That's ah, that nig was a fan of music. It's
Speaker 1: just next thing was Kim and another Junior Mafia project.
Speaker 1: You want to do the commission ship he was about.
Speaker 1: He was gonna sign Cam he was, you know he was.
Speaker 1: This ship was about music. He wanted to set up
Speaker 1: his own their party. That was a big whole thing,
Speaker 1: Like you want to give it a bunch of nice
Speaker 1: niggers and put some ship together and just let it
Speaker 1: run from there. He wanted to do five albums and retire.
Speaker 1: He's gonna write my albums after that. I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: a bunch of Little Seeds albums. You gotta, you gotta relax.
Speaker 1: He gotta real. He didn't mean my whole life was
Speaker 1: easy for him to write for me, Like I got
Speaker 1: built into being that ship. I didn't sit back. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a rapper. I won ten years old,
Speaker 1: eleven years old to my yall. I'm ready to spend,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get busy. I love the music. I
Speaker 1: love listening to it. You know that was my thing,
Speaker 1: But I never thought about rapping. It was just a
Speaker 1: thing for him, Like all right, this little nigga, he
Speaker 1: got the wave. He knows what to do. He can
Speaker 1: before you even knew what he told you, You're gonna
Speaker 1: be ryn write your album right, all right? Cool? Say
Speaker 1: no more? Yeah you want me to do? Because I
Speaker 1: was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff with him,
Speaker 1: so we all do like colleges and ship like that,
Speaker 1: and he was watching that. Okay, the only thing I
Speaker 1: need to do is just write him some rhymes. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying him, some little cool ass rhymes. You wanna
Speaker 1: be this little cool kid with the knapsat Tommy hill
Speaker 1: Finger did tell me, don't want on niggas be likely
Speaker 1: just all all bit. That's why you was on the kid,
Speaker 1: That's why the crush on you. That was my creation.
Speaker 1: After that, my album suppos't been so straight, like wow,
Speaker 1: Puppy Love. That was name my album, Puppy Love for
Speaker 1: real cool A bunch of crushes from you. When he died,
Speaker 1: I can't My whole ship was like the wonful world
Speaker 1: of Season Leo. That would be with the King go
Speaker 1: but ass, with the bitch's hands covered with me. That
Speaker 1: was se the Leo ideal, Like all right, I did.
Speaker 1: I need to make a different kind of approach to us.
Speaker 1: How did you link with it? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I brought him down to do a show. You know,
Speaker 1: it was Super weekend and then you know he came.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, him juling off, you know that.
Speaker 1: They were like big was like, okay, man, I'm doing
Speaker 1: your pat jam the big one. The second one was
Speaker 1: around the corner. He was like, man, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do that, motherfucker. Let you come Because pat jam here
Speaker 1: was what we call it was a Apolo South. They
Speaker 1: would go up in there and the artists would go
Speaker 1: in there and they'll be looking like this at your ass.
Speaker 1: You know, motherfucker, you better get to the song. You know,
Speaker 1: we really know. It was the hardest order the sound man.
Speaker 1: You have a dirty guy like who came out like
Speaker 1: the crowd. So was like, yeah, I ain't doing that, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Let you let you come up in there, and so
Speaker 1: many him. You know, we ended up linking up that
Speaker 1: weekend and we was friends forever. I mean, he uh,
Speaker 1: he would tell me stories about you know, him him
Speaker 1: being a big fan of Poison Clan. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He told me he was like, man, this
Speaker 1: fucking JT Money. You know, I you know, before I
Speaker 1: got into business, I got all his ship. So it
Speaker 1: was like, damn, so you know what I'm looking at
Speaker 1: him like. He was like, nah, man, that was my dude. There,
Speaker 1: that's my dude. And so wed him hit it off.
Speaker 1: Every time you come down, I go to New York,
Speaker 1: I would hang out with him and uh we end
Speaker 1: up doing a record together and he wasn't there with
Speaker 1: he died in a right. I was in l A.
Speaker 1: Actually I was in the studio doing I was supposed
Speaker 1: to link up with him and me and uh me
Speaker 1: and Stoop was in the students think so yeah when
Speaker 1: they ended up when they told us about him, did then?
Speaker 1: You know, we were sitting in the studio and I
Speaker 1: think he said on the Breakfast Club you were supposed
Speaker 1: to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were supposed to
Speaker 1: go to another party. It was at a party we
Speaker 1: were recording, and uh, we were supposed to go link
Speaker 1: up after it. God, God bless Big Man, God bless
Speaker 1: Jia Mafia. You know what I'm saying. Um, And did
Speaker 1: you ever meet Tupac oh Park? Was? No, that was
Speaker 1: my guy. Let's break out some is some now? Is
Speaker 1: the bitches involved? Part? Was that was another one of
Speaker 1: my little son Let's make yeah part. Would Pop would
Speaker 1: come down? You know you hang out? Prop was like
Speaker 1: George Jepson get jumpson on the on the Jempson that
Speaker 1: that motherfucker just sitting in the car and talk talk
Speaker 1: talk talk talk. I mean we would be on the
Speaker 1: road together, we see each other. You would be in
Speaker 1: my room. I'm sitting there, land down and sleep. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker still talk got damn you know I heard every
Speaker 1: story there was that was part with my dude, that's
Speaker 1: my nigger. That's so let me ask you, because it
Speaker 1: had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you ran
Speaker 1: Miami after especially all the termorial the beat said everybody
Speaker 1: everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But now
Speaker 1: this East cost because the nigga's personalities was ill like
Speaker 1: like like most fact niggers got good personalities. I think
Speaker 1: I would have been at centric social media work that
Speaker 1: been terrorizing people. How was the How was the transition?
Speaker 1: Because you knew pop, you knew Pop and Big when
Speaker 1: they were cool, Like even in the movie, it's like
Speaker 1: you see Big and you say yo yo, poppets in
Speaker 1: the joint and that was that was all love. Like, So,
Speaker 1: how was that to see that transition, because I mean
Speaker 1: it was it was sucked up because they know Big
Speaker 1: really had genuine love for him, and we all know
Speaker 1: he had genuine love for Big two. Let me let
Speaker 1: me act. You know something, if something, if something wanted,
Speaker 1: if something wanted to happen, it could have happened. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, nothing could have stopped that though we was
Speaker 1: we were seeing each other in plenty places and if
Speaker 1: something because it was so you're saying, well, whoa whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa whoa You're saying, as these records is out, y'all
Speaker 1: were seeing each other each other a few times and
Speaker 1: the sole Train Awards when they could have happened at
Speaker 1: that time if they wanted to, Like, yeah, situations happened before,
Speaker 1: but it just never went there. And I just think
Speaker 1: he didn't He didn't really want that. I just think
Speaker 1: he had a lot of people behind him pushing him,
Speaker 1: and it was vice versa. You know, you had people
Speaker 1: are not here too because negative and us too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But they never would have did
Speaker 1: nothing to each other because genuinely he knew Big headlove
Speaker 1: for you know, and Big New Ye had love for him,
Speaker 1: he would he. I just think he was just going
Speaker 1: with a situation. I mean, you got niggas that just
Speaker 1: balls you out of jail, and you owe your loyal
Speaker 1: teacher that he didn't do nothing wrong by that, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and took you out of a situation beyond.
Speaker 1: And they both died the same way. That ship is
Speaker 1: like so crazy, like six months apart, the same kind
Speaker 1: of situation. The album's maca Velly Die all that ship
Speaker 1: is just like a whole weird thing. And I was
Speaker 1: just thinking it was just that just I was meant
Speaker 1: to beat dog. You can't change it. You can't like
Speaker 1: do the wood ifs. And it was just they both
Speaker 1: got caught up in a bad situation and they ain't
Speaker 1: deserve the people. I always I always wish they had
Speaker 1: passed it up, because I think that would have been
Speaker 1: it was they was. I suppose they don't because we
Speaker 1: did a record together for case Lad called Very the
Speaker 1: Hatchet I did with the Outlaws, and you know, it
Speaker 1: took us fifteen years for us to sit down and
Speaker 1: talk about you know what I'm saying, Like we ain't
Speaker 1: like each other to fit teen years and none of
Speaker 1: us stuff even met each other and knew each other none.
Speaker 1: And one day we spoke to a female. One day,
Speaker 1: I'm chalking to this chicken. She must have said my
Speaker 1: name real loud and young. Know we heard of grabbed
Speaker 1: the phone from her. Yo, who this real aggressive? And
Speaker 1: I'm just like this, see outlaws. I'm like, I heard you.
Speaker 1: It was up outlaws. I heard you. What's good? And
Speaker 1: we sat there. We talked for about two hours. We
Speaker 1: got a chance to really speak on ship. He didn't
Speaker 1: know a lot of ship that was going on the outside.
Speaker 1: I ain't know. And we spoke and then he came
Speaker 1: to New York on damn. We got up and sat
Speaker 1: down and kicked it. Then, my niggers to this day,
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, when when Uh Pop was going to
Speaker 1: Vegas before that, he was like, yo, when he come
Speaker 1: back from Vegas, he was gonna sell that ship with
Speaker 1: bit you know what I mean. So that ship was
Speaker 1: gonna get dead it you know, I mean eventually, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it was gonna get squashed. He
Speaker 1: really knew what happened. He knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: He knew Big didn't have nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: He knew we didn't have nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: I just think he was just caught up in a
Speaker 1: situation and vice versa two. His things that did when
Speaker 1: he didn't change it was they were young. We don't
Speaker 1: really a lot of time young. They were dog like,
Speaker 1: you know, when his forties making this type of mistakes up.
Speaker 1: We were kids. I look at it now because I'm
Speaker 1: over thirty. I'm over thirty years old. I'm almost forty,
Speaker 1: So I look at it. I look at it there like, damn,
Speaker 1: these niggles actually babies. Dog we didn't ain't know no better.
Speaker 1: And let me let me tell you something. When we
Speaker 1: dropped l A l A, I stepped to Big and
Speaker 1: I told him that, and he said, he said, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be um. I don't want that
Speaker 1: record to come out because what they accusing me for Nori,
Speaker 1: I ain't do so I gotta like he always knew
Speaker 1: to take the high row like it was ill he was.
Speaker 1: He'll tell you like, no, dog, ain't ain't the way.
Speaker 1: But you know, to each his own, you want to
Speaker 1: do that, you don't do that. We couldn't stop him
Speaker 1: from doing that, but we was loving them for doing it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like then was like man,
Speaker 1: we stepped up to the plate. But it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's not well, we don't want to do that. We're
Speaker 1: trying to get some money, you know, like you know
Speaker 1: that's how b our ship was. Don't we're trying to
Speaker 1: get money. We ain't any ship for that. And if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be beef, don't make it hot. You're gonna
Speaker 1: make it hot. You make it. You're gonna do some
Speaker 1: real ship. Don't responding your reaction to nothing. They ain't
Speaker 1: say nothing. You don't know what's gonna happen when you say,
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no response you bigger cut you off.
Speaker 1: You're spawning anything you make a record, don't call me
Speaker 1: no more, don't come to You're just done finish. We
Speaker 1: don't do that now for the record, they the rumor
Speaker 1: is who shot you was recorded way before before that
Speaker 1: as a vinyl like like, yeah, it didn't make sense
Speaker 1: before any two that was supposed to be from Mary
Speaker 1: j album. You feel me. I ain't know bragging none
Speaker 1: of that ship, But I don't know personally, we just
Speaker 1: we just want to know. Yeah, he's probably be running
Speaker 1: right now. Actually, but what happened though, like, um, he
Speaker 1: came to the bay he wanted, he was in sacrament
Speaker 1: I didn't even know you got him out, like y'all. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was some people I knew, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know the mother fuckers had him out
Speaker 1: theory because they didn't promoted right or some ship. But
Speaker 1: they was. They hit me at eleven o'clock something like
Speaker 1: that night. They were like, man, I got to first
Speaker 1: of all the way, I didn't had nothing against him,
Speaker 1: and I know Pok had issues because Park really knew him.
Speaker 1: I didn't know him like that, but he had gotten
Speaker 1: because after the Park ship, the ship that had happened
Speaker 1: at qual this was ship. This was what year was this? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I forgot man. But anyway you could
Speaker 1: do you do them just as all that and ship anyway,
Speaker 1: So the thing is that, um, what do you do?
Speaker 1: He awesome magazine. It was a magazine, the Canadian magazine.
Speaker 1: Dude had did interviews in and they said they said
Speaker 1: they got him drunk, just like you. Motherfucker's got him
Speaker 1: hell and they got a hell of drunk and start
Speaker 1: asking him on the scale from from one of ten,
Speaker 1: from you know, from one of the ten. Who do you?
Speaker 1: You know who you rate this? Like he said Spice
Speaker 1: ones and ice Q like everybody in the street. That
Speaker 1: was somebody. And he got to my name and he's,
Speaker 1: oh man, that's he's big. He's whacked. Man. He got
Speaker 1: he give him, give him a zero. You know I'm
Speaker 1: talking about mind you I've been I was wearing Kangles
Speaker 1: in high school. I'm almost forty nine years old, so
Speaker 1: I've been wearing Kangles. You know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 1: that ship just so happened that the dude had the
Speaker 1: kind of same kind of swag I had, like you know,
Speaker 1: Kuji Kuji shirts, was sweaters, was in for Sasha. We
Speaker 1: just you know, that was the ship when you were tycoon,
Speaker 1: you're working with it, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: was just on the West coast. He was on the
Speaker 1: East coast. I'm on the West coast. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's what had him saying saying the nigga zero,
Speaker 1: But my my, my status unorthodox. So the motherfucker's that
Speaker 1: think that can't catch it, they'd catch it later because
Speaker 1: I said a lot of ship that it ain't just slang.
Speaker 1: Just the ship. I say, you know what, it's kind
Speaker 1: of ahead of his time. You know. Then they're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, because its fans that I had got right now,
Speaker 1: that's die harsh. That didn't understand me, they said. When
Speaker 1: I was younger, I just thought you was whacked. But
Speaker 1: as I started listening more and more and living the
Speaker 1: life that going through this then and thing, I'm like,
Speaker 1: my nigga, you the best fish, feel me. So to
Speaker 1: make a long story short, man, so dude, um so,
Speaker 1: everybody had got wind of the ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and that's what far as him dissing
Speaker 1: me in that magazine. So my little dudes they were
Speaker 1: all hot and shipped too. So they just so happened
Speaker 1: to sneak up the secramento you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They had, I guess to do. They threw the show.
Speaker 1: He was out there. They called me a Leavin something
Speaker 1: at night. What you want me to do with this nigga? Woo?
Speaker 1: And um I told him, I put put the nick
Speaker 1: on the phone. You feel me like that? So they
Speaker 1: put him on the phone and whatnot, and we chopped
Speaker 1: it up and he was like, man, fody you know, man,
Speaker 1: look man, I was drunk. Man, But I funk what
Speaker 1: you duke. You know what I'm saying A photo y'all
Speaker 1: heard the story before and all that. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: nothing happened to him, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: didn't want that. I wouldn't even if I were to
Speaker 1: see that, wouldn't tried to knock him down. It wasn't nothing,
Speaker 1: and I seen him later on week. We chopped it
Speaker 1: up by the fact I was supposed to be on
Speaker 1: this last album, Life After Death. If you go, if
Speaker 1: we if we find the actual physical copy back then
Speaker 1: we did shoutouts. We shot out, We shout out people
Speaker 1: things and go look in there and it's gonna say
Speaker 1: shout out to E forty. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So that ship was done with man? You feel me
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, let's make some noise of that. You
Speaker 1: know what. I actually to tell the truth A forty.
Speaker 1: I actually never actually heard the story. I heard the
Speaker 1: rumor pieces of it. By the way, I didn't set
Speaker 1: it up. I meant to say that I definitely had
Speaker 1: that and that's on. That's on everything I love and
Speaker 1: I don't like like that and I don't play with God.
Speaker 1: They didn't set that up, but that's the rumor. The
Speaker 1: rumors always the one was a phony nigger that had
Speaker 1: trying to claim that ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna claim it. I ain't gonna act like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean was he came to the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, he couldn't leave, but he spoke to He
Speaker 1: wasn't even the beat. He was in Sacramentico, which is
Speaker 1: northern California. It's northern California. But it's not the bag killing.
Speaker 1: That's my that's my my, my mother in five Mexican home.
Speaker 1: I want to take time for my my brother Ali. Yo,
Speaker 1: tell Ali get well soon. Man, Damn you're like you
Speaker 1: killed him right now. Shout out to the uber homes
Speaker 1: to Miami. When we dropped L A l A. I
Speaker 1: stepped to Big and I told him that and he said,
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, I don't want to be um. I
Speaker 1: don't want that record to come out because what they
Speaker 1: accusing me for Nori, I ain't do so. I gotta
Speaker 1: like he always knew to take the high row like
Speaker 1: it was ill like he was. He'll tell you like, no,
Speaker 1: dog ain't ain't the way. But you know, to each
Speaker 1: his own, you want to do that you don't do that.
Speaker 1: We couldn't stop him from doing that, but we was
Speaker 1: loving him for doing it, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: Like that, he was like, man, we stepped up to
Speaker 1: the plate. But it's like, yo, let's not well, we
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know that's how b our ship was.
Speaker 1: Don't we're trying to get money. We ain't in this
Speaker 1: ship for that. And if you're gonna be beef, don't
Speaker 1: make it hot. Gonna make it hot, you make it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do some real ship. Don't you spading your
Speaker 1: reaction to nothing? Big ain't say nothing. You don't know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when you see I ain't saying nothing,
Speaker 1: no response you bigger, cut you off. You're spawning anything.
Speaker 1: Now you make a record, don't call me no more.
Speaker 1: Don't come to nigger. You're you're done, finish. We don't
Speaker 1: do that now for the record day. The rumor is
Speaker 1: who shot you was recorded way before that as a
Speaker 1: vinyl like like didn't Yeah, it didn't make sense before
Speaker 1: any two that's supposed to been from Mary j album
Speaker 1: for her that's supposed an intro to her first album,
Speaker 1: Get the Funk Out. Who Shots My Life is the
Speaker 1: second album intro to the second album, It was too
Speaker 1: hard for it too was take you kids in the building.
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta put you over there. You gotta
Speaker 1: put you over there again. I've been hanging out with
Speaker 1: my man for about the week. Kiss serious and you
Speaker 1: go to the gym to every day snaphing got up
Speaker 1: playing for he don't play those games and with drink
Speaker 1: with you, so you said, who shot You? Was done?
Speaker 1: Was done for what? That was for Mary J Blide
Speaker 1: That was to her second album, and it was it
Speaker 1: was baby, let's Keith LLL COO J and big on it.
Speaker 1: Who Shot You? Yeah, that's the original Keith Murray J.
Speaker 1: Originally was Keith, Mary J and b I and it
Speaker 1: was from Mary. It was the intro to Mary J
Speaker 1: My Life album. I never heard of it and it
Speaker 1: was like, this is too hard to be just to
Speaker 1: start off for R and B album. And once they
Speaker 1: scratched it, b I was like, give me the record.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sunk with it, and b I added the
Speaker 1: second verse to it and took it. It was a
Speaker 1: B side record and put it on the B side too.
Speaker 1: I wish it what Big paper one more chance it
Speaker 1: was on and we just ran with that was way
Speaker 1: before that, but it did feel like Big was coming
Speaker 1: at It's a coincidence that, I mean that had me
Speaker 1: at that time, No, I know I noticed, but like that,
Speaker 1: Why would people think that when they know they already
Speaker 1: earned this record before? Because that was just Big generation stupid.
Speaker 1: Now they've been stupid. You say, I'm like, why y'all,
Speaker 1: Why would y'all think that? But I understand just from
Speaker 1: the situation at that time, I knew how it was.
Speaker 1: But we you know, Bigness sweat it though Big New
Speaker 1: Big News. It was Bigger. That's you know, he like man,
Speaker 1: he know that song and about you know that song.
Speaker 1: We're done before that, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: big that when Big is on stage and they kind
Speaker 1: of born them and oh that was real. That was
Speaker 1: we was a Satha Mano and ship the South Amento.
Speaker 1: It was a bunch of like West Coast on his
Speaker 1: booked on that show, not you for his be legit
Speaker 1: the pute we get love out there. You know, we
Speaker 1: didn't know about this interview, uh, this interview that Big
Speaker 1: opposed he did with this dude from Toronto. He put
Speaker 1: a bunch of ships and said, big was this is
Speaker 1: why West Coast all this ship and uh I remember
Speaker 1: walking through that ship and Nigga mac Tim bumped me
Speaker 1: and ship well, you know, I walked through the spot
Speaker 1: like the circus spots he was in there and see
Speaker 1: the type of business in here. Walked through one time.
Speaker 1: I just get the film. I turned out. I looked
Speaker 1: back to Nick Mactin like this with me, so I
Speaker 1: looks a big motherfucker. So I was like, big this
Speaker 1: ship though it don't feel like that that love. When
Speaker 1: we got on stage, you don't stay then stop throwing
Speaker 1: coins at us and ship man you know that coins
Speaker 1: throwing that you're on stage and ship's hurt my nigger
Speaker 1: that sho and big guy mad I was like, your
Speaker 1: fun that throwing? Who shot you? Who shot shot? And
Speaker 1: when do who shots you? On? They just start going nuts.
Speaker 1: They stopped throwing. They want bad But I did that ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that right here, listen dog
Speaker 1: say that the place you know you get guy Big
Speaker 1: requested it like like you shoot me like butcher, like
Speaker 1: it's crazy in a funny way, it's crazy like like
Speaker 1: but sometimes you gotta take those. It's just stand out.
Speaker 1: They just didn't want to feel like, you know, they
Speaker 1: was getting to them where they was attimidating them like
Speaker 1: I fuck, man, I want to do that. Who shot
Speaker 1: you enough? Like trying to hold that ship just like
Speaker 1: who shot you? Who shot you? On that ship just
Speaker 1: changed the whole momentum. Ship we got followed back to
Speaker 1: be leagit, follow us back to the hotel that day
Speaker 1: and all that ship. Man, they thought Big was trying
Speaker 1: to diss the whole city. Some bullshit that's interviewed somebody
Speaker 1: put out. But then they squashed that ship right there.
Speaker 1: Big on the phone efore and talk about it. Let's
Speaker 1: you know what that hit. It was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: let me know, y'all get to the town, you get
Speaker 1: to their ports, saton. That was what the nwnstairs and
Speaker 1: anything stayed in the hotel a lot before to the
Speaker 1: whole to the next morning, took us to the at.
Speaker 1: If you go online, you can find this demo um
Speaker 1: before unsigned hype. You heard it, No, I heard it.
Speaker 1: I saw unsigned Hype and that's that's when I called
Speaker 1: Maddie see miss the Sea, and I, you know, track
Speaker 1: down the demo from just the explanation of what I heard,
Speaker 1: you know, and his look was so disruptive, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a good way to explain he felt. He felt
Speaker 1: like Miles Davis to me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I when I had first song, but it was
Speaker 1: like it was it was a vibrational attraction that was dead.
Speaker 1: Like I knew, I like store up to stare at
Speaker 1: the picture, you know what I'm saying, for like maybe
Speaker 1: six days, you know what I'm saying after hearing the music,
Speaker 1: you know, no, no, before I even got the demo,
Speaker 1: just a picture in itself was giving me this strong
Speaker 1: vibration that I knew that whatever this guy was saying,
Speaker 1: like you know, it was it was something that was
Speaker 1: It was something that was really really really really authentic,
Speaker 1: just by the look in his eyes, you know. And
Speaker 1: then when I heard the music, you know, it was
Speaker 1: one of those things I merely called my girl and
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, you gotta you gotta tell me
Speaker 1: if this is as hot as great as is, I
Speaker 1: really believe it is. You know, she heard it. She
Speaker 1: was like like, wherever he's at, you better go get him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now that was that's
Speaker 1: interesting that you said you called your girl. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: women are the biggest consumers of music without a doubt.
Speaker 1: So how how did you know that early on? Um?
Speaker 1: Because everything I did was for girls, My whole swag,
Speaker 1: my whole you know, um, musically dancing. I started dancing
Speaker 1: because you know, I like, really, I really trust women's opinions,
Speaker 1: and I liked the vibration. And you know, I've always
Speaker 1: just loved women that really were into music, you know,
Speaker 1: that knew how to dance and was in the music.
Speaker 1: I can't even relate to somebody it's not into music,
Speaker 1: So you know, um, you know, I had a girl
Speaker 1: that was really into music, and and I really trusted
Speaker 1: her judgment. So it was something that something that you
Speaker 1: know when it's something crazy and you got a girl
Speaker 1: that's like that on that same wavelength. She said that
Speaker 1: about Big Pride to see just on the demo just
Speaker 1: on Yeah, yeah, the demo is crazy. Demo is some
Speaker 1: of his best works. None of those tracks made it now,
Speaker 1: I mean he just he was just freestyling over some beats.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't you know, it wasn't that time where
Speaker 1: you could just wrap on somebody's beat. He was. He
Speaker 1: was like kind of the first to do that. I
Speaker 1: mean second when you know, you did the jacket for Beasts,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. In another way, but when he went
Speaker 1: and rapped before Ready to Die on all l A beats,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Before that, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: people were getting on people's tracks, what I'm saying. So, so,
Speaker 1: how did you guys started incorporating like the R and
Speaker 1: B s, the R and B tracks, like the Juicy's
Speaker 1: and all that. Because I can listen to Biggest Demo
Speaker 1: and I can tell that that was directly um Uh,
Speaker 1: which was my favorite record by the way, Juicy. But
Speaker 1: but how do you go about convincing a hardcore artists
Speaker 1: like big um to that this commercial, this commercial success
Speaker 1: is something that he needs. It really wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of convincing. I was like, yo, if you want to
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to be big Big and
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, when we did partying bullshit,
Speaker 1: he he didn't didn't know how to write a song,
Speaker 1: so you know, you know, just like most rappers, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, everything was like sixty bars and everything.
Speaker 1: And then so you know, once you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of broke down the whole song structured. To him, he
Speaker 1: was like a genius, so he didn't he would take
Speaker 1: it and then and and and he just really was
Speaker 1: strong on making songs. People didn't write wraps down. Um.
Speaker 1: That was that was the second year. Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: breaking news. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first year he would write him down. By the
Speaker 1: second year, you know, he was just sitting the room
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't say nothing for like maybe two or
Speaker 1: three days and go in and just do it from
Speaker 1: head to toe. No punching in, nothing like that. Maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, let's yeah. But as
Speaker 1: far as the as far as the big record, you know,
Speaker 1: going after the Juicy and the Big Papa with the
Speaker 1: Ozzy Brothers, it was just it was a vibe that
Speaker 1: I was in that I had. I had already seen
Speaker 1: work to a certain degree, and I knew with Mobi
Speaker 1: and Premier we had the harder edge tracks, and I
Speaker 1: knew that there was just this opportunity, um because even
Speaker 1: you know, the West Coast was doing in their way
Speaker 1: that their style of sampling more commercial type of hits.
Speaker 1: But I knew that these joints right here These were
Speaker 1: the things that I I grew up to in Hallan
Speaker 1: when I used to have to do my chores in
Speaker 1: the morning. These records was really really deep, like sheet
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying, and and just
Speaker 1: having that juicy sample and in the Big Papa joint
Speaker 1: and then the One More Chance. I had all that
Speaker 1: at the same time, So you know, I knew he
Speaker 1: wanted to be fly and I told him like, this
Speaker 1: is the road to the flying noess, she just gonna
Speaker 1: be really dusty and be doing videos behind like in
Speaker 1: abandoned buildings, And he was like, I want to be flying.
Speaker 1: He always wanted to just have make sure his gear
Speaker 1: was flyer. Then somebody that was slimmer. Now that One
Speaker 1: More Chance remix like in the Streets album was already
Speaker 1: a phenomenon. We already knew where Big was going. But
Speaker 1: then y'all one more Chance remix and video like how
Speaker 1: like what was the fund? Did you thinking? To say?
Speaker 1: Like what was it? Because because I believe he was
Speaker 1: gold at the time, was that to like the record
Speaker 1: that you wanted to take it over to the platinum
Speaker 1: or yeah? Yeah, you know, um as a producer, I
Speaker 1: get here giving me the you know, the confidence. So
Speaker 1: you know, when you really believe in everything's great and
Speaker 1: you're in that frequency, you know, that's what you're attracting.
Speaker 1: And I attracted that sample and I was like this
Speaker 1: one right here, this is this right this right here? Scary?
Speaker 1: You know, it was scary, you know because it was
Speaker 1: a true record for the ladies. And not only that,
Speaker 1: it felt like I felt like you and Big perfected
Speaker 1: feeding the streets and feeding the radio. Yeah, like at
Speaker 1: the same time you had who shot you that all
Speaker 1: the streets? You know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards that,
Speaker 1: but you're killing the radio? Like who was that? You?
Speaker 1: Who developed a strategy of feed the streets? And you
Speaker 1: know it was it was more of a respect thing
Speaker 1: of of of I knew what he wanted to do
Speaker 1: and if we were going to have this like partnership
Speaker 1: on making music, and he was going to follow me
Speaker 1: down the road to making some of these bigger records,
Speaker 1: and you know, then I would follow him down the
Speaker 1: road to um, you know, making more the hardcore records.
Speaker 1: There's only one line that I had made him change
Speaker 1: or just record that he went too far for me.
Speaker 1: You need this story. I think he talked about rape
Speaker 1: and Mary or something that, yeah it was and I
Speaker 1: just I just I just couldn't do it. And he
Speaker 1: respected dreams. No this is this is just a free
Speaker 1: style because that eventually came out though now I was
Speaker 1: kind of um like set that standard when he said
Speaker 1: when I was twelve, I went to help us nothing
Speaker 1: Jesus so all artists was trying to say something disrespectful
Speaker 1: like still clever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but yea yeah
Speaker 1: yeah but that yeah, that was the only thing that
Speaker 1: we had started to have a discussion about certain responsibilities.
Speaker 1: He didn't really give a funk, but at the same
Speaker 1: time he was he was kind of a big one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he over the bridge that yeah, he said he
Speaker 1: whatever he said was like from from a standpoint of lyricism,
Speaker 1: it was yeah, it wasn't from this. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: shock value like yeah, yeah value. Yeah. He seemed like
Speaker 1: on the first album that it felt like West Coast
Speaker 1: influenced him a lot, like that's the way I felt
Speaker 1: as a listening Yeah, really not at all. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there were some samples that they sampled a lot of
Speaker 1: some of the West Coast records and some of the
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as me sampling, I
Speaker 1: was definitely in was by the chronic They're even ready
Speaker 1: to Die that whole, So that was not him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was me that because I was I heard the
Speaker 1: chronic and I just really became obsessed with how they
Speaker 1: were able to make it sound like it was. Actually
Speaker 1: you actually got into a low ride in the comment.
Speaker 1: So I wanted ready to Die to feel like you was,
Speaker 1: you know, in Brooklyn and from New York and so
Speaker 1: you know, Dre definitely inspired me, you know on that one.
Speaker 1: Would you enjoy more producing? Oh? Yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was the only one that we I mean, Cola was
Speaker 1: on the Locks out. Of course that was gonna be
Speaker 1: our album, didn't you say? I want that Big win
Speaker 1: at y'all? Yeah, you'll see verse what you'll see the
Speaker 1: first it's actually the Locks first feature with Big We
Speaker 1: never met him, and I know what happened. Puff Winning
Speaker 1: told him some ship puff Winning. Y'all got these niggas
Speaker 1: from youngest, the dirty winning niggas. They're coming crazy, They're
Speaker 1: coming for you. That he came crazy. He came from
Speaker 1: the first line nig's talking when ain't I don't know
Speaker 1: how crazy I can't go back and listen to what
Speaker 1: was coming. That was coming. He could have actually broke
Speaker 1: our smith. He could all wrong. He could have tail
Speaker 1: between the legs and kiss leg that. Let me just
Speaker 1: crib the situate. So y'all come to the lab like
Speaker 1: big people. If he was dope the ground, he was
Speaker 1: like he loved underground you ship. He was into him
Speaker 1: and Math that record, I can't. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that came up with that. That record seems like they
Speaker 1: were going rad it like and and at that time,
Speaker 1: Meth was considered the best because he had the m
Speaker 1: A T H O. D man. He was cooking. He
Speaker 1: was cooking, he was he was ripping everything that was
Speaker 1: that that name was every everywhere, and that was going
Speaker 1: to be all famous him and old Dirty. I still
Speaker 1: can't say who won that. I still certain days like
Speaker 1: different styles too. I give it up. I say, was like, no,
Speaker 1: he got me. He said that j join he said
Speaker 1: Jake got him book of Finance. I gotta disagree said that.
Speaker 1: I told he wasn't think he's bucking dog. See, I
Speaker 1: didn't understand j in the beginning. He was using all
Speaker 1: them big words and that school nine grade mon nigger
Speaker 1: I didn't know all that scientific or reflical and orlean.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand the color ship direct to
Speaker 1: the point and b I was more like a direct
Speaker 1: but bad? Now would it be? He bodied something going
Speaker 1: and Philly. He never had, Oh man come out and
Speaker 1: sees events. He should have, he said, a man like
Speaker 1: somebody should have told him, no, a big not that
Speaker 1: it's still work. Still, I'm sorry, I'm still he killed
Speaker 1: him now that was hurt from getting big that we're
Speaker 1: going to speaking his defense. He's a lawyer, he's a
Speaker 1: way rapid and winning helped to a lawyer's biggest sue.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying. I always was like music
Speaker 1: is still I'm sorry, I'm sorry like that. No, that
Speaker 1: was some big they had. No he even destroyed Shock,
Speaker 1: but he's found but come on, destroyed Shock, he said Shock.
Speaker 1: You get it too. That that was the only record
Speaker 1: with him and nas on it. Hrsus was four shack
Speaker 1: shots versus that he said was for shocks shot, winning
Speaker 1: and broken. He couldn't say basketball politics, your dog, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't say nothing that you got right. I was
Speaker 1: there with kids on that record called the Who World.
Speaker 1: He came back. He had a verse there we was going,
Speaker 1: we was at the hotel. It wasn't Naas on that
Speaker 1: record as well. I don't know. I don't believe it's
Speaker 1: a virgin. The only version between Big and Nas only
Speaker 1: heard that when we did we went to Jack Cribb
Speaker 1: and and that ship is at the same time that
Speaker 1: they're talking about the same record, but no, the same
Speaker 1: time that they're talking and Big, what what record did
Speaker 1: Big guard Nas? Kicking the door? Kicking the door? What
Speaker 1: was that line? Because Nas came back he said some ship,
Speaker 1: but it was he was like, he was like niggas
Speaker 1: Champagne last year. They wasn't champ Now said the line
Speaker 1: he said, he take the crown off the so called
Speaker 1: king and lock it down freestyle. He did it, Big
Speaker 1: people that and that was Big response to the the
Speaker 1: third verse to kicking the door. What did he say? Again,
Speaker 1: this goes out but those that choose to use disrespectful
Speaker 1: views on the kingdom and why fun that way? Don't
Speaker 1: bleat now you were railing it, snatch that lightship, scaling it.
Speaker 1: Conscience of your nunsiense eight so more powdered and Johnson
Speaker 1: than Johnson. Vision legs never laxed. That is crazy. I
Speaker 1: used to have to catch you on this ship. I
Speaker 1: still catch you onto some ship now, Damn dog, I
Speaker 1: ain't know what that. I just had to ask Bigger
Speaker 1: what you mean by that? What's that? But that's where
Speaker 1: that came from? I asked where that came from? He
Speaker 1: he played the free style was like Listen's even using
Speaker 1: big words. It's his flow, it's his delivery. And the
Speaker 1: way he said the words. Man, it was just so clear,
Speaker 1: cun of your nunsense. We had never laxed back big
Speaker 1: so wonderful love. It was a wonderful big, big fat
Speaker 1: black motherfucker must be antics. You just feel like big
Speaker 1: fat niggam. I think Punney was a very romantic. I'm
Speaker 1: just doing I used to see the nigga with roses
Speaker 1: all the time, just no reason. What are you doing
Speaker 1: with my brother? Little speak? He did a little spik
Speaker 1: of looking at that like it was just cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so got a little awk with this. Dope was dope.
Speaker 1: It's good, it's good, it's good to get the akers
Speaker 1: sometimes was real. He was really big pimping dog. He
Speaker 1: was up. Now, let's describe at that time, right, because
Speaker 1: at that time you're just getting the notice guy right
Speaker 1: and in according to the movie, it's like he gave
Speaker 1: bigger check and he gave Big all these promises, but
Speaker 1: he really had no accolades to match that as a whole.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean he worked up, but not
Speaker 1: for himself, but that he had something he had. He
Speaker 1: had Joe. He didn't like what I'm saying that he
Speaker 1: was one was his first label, bad Boy, So yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was it was he was gonna make his career.
Speaker 1: So what made what do you think made y'all in general?
Speaker 1: When Big even trust this guy B I funk not
Speaker 1: think just be I just knew he knew what he
Speaker 1: was doing and he was he was he was devoted
Speaker 1: to b. I. That's something I couldn't say about He
Speaker 1: was you when it came to be I. He was
Speaker 1: straight up with Big. I mean, I can't knock that.
Speaker 1: I can't take that away. It wouldn't be no B.
Speaker 1: I once phone the one for Pepe straight up. It's
Speaker 1: just a real ship ever and be our funk with him.
Speaker 1: And then the day we did you know, the end
Speaker 1: of the day, if he say it's cool, it's cool,
Speaker 1: who am I honestly up next man. You know, I
Speaker 1: consider this this person to be a pioneer and what
Speaker 1: it is, you know, for hip hop podcasting. He he
Speaker 1: definitely was someone that that I was checking out and
Speaker 1: inspired by, you know. And who I'm speaking about is
Speaker 1: no other than Reggio say a K. Combat Jack, you know,
Speaker 1: who is definitely a legend hosting one of the original
Speaker 1: hip hop podcasts with the Combat Jack Show. His resume
Speaker 1: far proceeds a podcast world, as he was a successful
Speaker 1: lawyer and represent a sort of hip hops the legendary
Speaker 1: artists and producers such as Jay Z, Rockefeller Records, component
Speaker 1: Ori Aga, and more. It was an honor to have
Speaker 1: interviewed Combat Jack on Drink Champs. I mean, to meet him,
Speaker 1: to talk to him, to interact with him, to hear
Speaker 1: the full episode. Checkout episode thirty two with Combat Jack
Speaker 1: and Jack Thriller was. It was a hilarious um episode.
Speaker 1: You just gotta check it out if you have and
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely one of our classics. But here's some
Speaker 1: great moments from that episode. The more careful you have
Speaker 1: to be with your words, so that a so I
Speaker 1: learned this. I learned this listening from Tupac Biggie and
Speaker 1: Jack right when Tupac comms no not just listen to
Speaker 1: their music and Tupac talking about I caught five and
Speaker 1: this and that and just like embracing being a target,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then passing away too soon,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Biggie's first album one of
Speaker 1: the most impactful albums of all time, Ready to Die,
Speaker 1: Ready to No No But but but I worked boy all.
Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of the hit man I
Speaker 1: worked with with Puff Puff, The Home Now, Derek Angeletti,
Speaker 1: Ron Lawrence, don't get out of my power. But let's listen,
Speaker 1: leten listen. I realized as a hip hop fan, particularly
Speaker 1: with hip hop and the vibration that it strikes. We
Speaker 1: don't we don't take hip hop for joke. Hip Hop
Speaker 1: is real when you say, some ship's real. So if
Speaker 1: you say you're ready to die and you got a
Speaker 1: million fans, that ship travels. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: and you noticed Nori when Jay was coming up, niggas
Speaker 1: didn't think Jay was gonna be that nigger, right am,
Speaker 1: I right? Wrong? But when Jay was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be the richest motherfucker speaking in hippot. He became that.
Speaker 1: So I learned the power of words. So my biggest
Speaker 1: um lesson and podcast is thinking, it's just me and
Speaker 1: my niggas in this studio talking ship, and and and
Speaker 1: and one day I did this rant with regard to
Speaker 1: Pat Hooo's okay and the and the ship went viral.
Speaker 1: And that ship surprised me because it was just a
Speaker 1: small part of our episode. What was you saying about
Speaker 1: bad poos? I was just I'm just saying something about
Speaker 1: bad like he wasn't good. I was just saying something
Speaker 1: about I don't know what you're saying, drink. I just
Speaker 1: heard a record that I didn't have. No just I
Speaker 1: heard a record on No No it was my boot.
Speaker 1: That record my boot, And I was like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is not who got paid. So I went off like
Speaker 1: I was on Twitter, and some pappoose followers was like
Speaker 1: coming at me because I'm not gonna argue. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna argue with you. I'm gonna address this on my show.
Speaker 1: So when I did, the ship went viral. And then
Speaker 1: when I realized that I crossed the line, it was
Speaker 1: too late to take the words. What did you say?
Speaker 1: What did you say? Just just let's just google it,
Speaker 1: my nigga. I'm telling you google it, my nigga, because
Speaker 1: I'm moving forward, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 1: I realized that I crossed the line with Papoose and
Speaker 1: I could never get you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, you gotta watch what you say
Speaker 1: because even when we're joking, you could hurt somebody or
Speaker 1: you could create an enemy for life with your words.
Speaker 1: And it was like, not that I'm afraid to say
Speaker 1: my honest truth, but I still got to realize and
Speaker 1: be responsible what I say about the other man, right
Speaker 1: because the thing about podcasts, it's kind of lives forever.
Speaker 1: These interviews don't die, so right now, everything that we said,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the reason why I wanted to be
Speaker 1: clear and let you know that everything I ever said
Speaker 1: about you was just jokes and always. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that the difference is y'all in each other face.
Speaker 1: So I have a whole different outlook on it. I
Speaker 1: feel like if you, like, I say a lot of
Speaker 1: crazy things that you do, and I say that everybody face,
Speaker 1: did I did I say something about like, for instance,
Speaker 1: you know, I hear an incident with two chains. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens to Yeah, you know, he said, he's gonna
Speaker 1: suck you up. He said, water Front Realty right where
Speaker 1: not that New York is not what public performance, it's publishing.
Speaker 1: So it's that's one. What's you said? I said? I said?
Speaker 1: I said public performance publishing synchronization. So like whenever your
Speaker 1: ship is like the movie movie commercial video, but when
Speaker 1: they write a two chains wrap and the ship is
Speaker 1: a kid to bring up two chains guy. So when
Speaker 1: the lyrics are written that people buy people buy them
Speaker 1: people people, it's a dying breed for people buy print
Speaker 1: people by How does the ship choreographic? How can I
Speaker 1: play this whole? Oh? You mean writing the music, writing
Speaker 1: the music and the lyrics. It's still public. The lyrics
Speaker 1: is considered like the music, like if you were to
Speaker 1: play I said four, that's four five record sales Breckord sales.
Speaker 1: But but but it's but but it's expanded right now
Speaker 1: because now is digital streaming stream So maybe it's at
Speaker 1: seven right now, I mean I'm at the authority, but
Speaker 1: um title, yeah, Apple Spotify, that's that's an extra six.
Speaker 1: So now let me ask you there might be a seventh.
Speaker 1: You might be a seven six genius is print now
Speaker 1: I would say genius, But I just picked up I
Speaker 1: just give you all sick out of the music to
Speaker 1: make money off you music. So Jack, how old you Jack?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just but thirty self? Okay, young buck? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a old face. But so in your opinion
Speaker 1: to you're picking up a young you of yourself, you
Speaker 1: think streaming hurt the industry or streaming helped it? And
Speaker 1: think it helped the industry? Man, because I like the
Speaker 1: fact that you it ain't no excuses if you can't
Speaker 1: make it right now, you know you don't even deserve
Speaker 1: to be in the game. I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's agree with him. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't in a sense because before there was the you know,
Speaker 1: the gatekeepers in a sense if your gatekeepers, No, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's true. But the oversaturation makes it harder in
Speaker 1: a sense. What's balancing a way harder to to be hurt,
Speaker 1: to be hurt byfend. I love music. I always love music.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen to ship I don't right you
Speaker 1: might not eat even know the music that you would
Speaker 1: when I find you when I find. When I find it,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know. Continue, but you wouldn't know because it's
Speaker 1: in the Ether's a million artists. Okay, so there's a
Speaker 1: million niggas that I won't listen to. But when I
Speaker 1: find a Anderson Park. When I said when I find,
Speaker 1: you don't find them. The people you're about to mention
Speaker 1: are people are being promoted by high profile people. But
Speaker 1: I don't follow high profile too. To Motte, what did
Speaker 1: I accidentally pull into my ship? Because I'm still crazy digging, right,
Speaker 1: I'm still crazy digging digitally. So when I find some ship,
Speaker 1: I funk with fun with it, and it's the same ship.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you've got something commercial promotion or
Speaker 1: if it's just straight up Internet promotion of my my
Speaker 1: friends saying something. So I saying something, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If it's getting that there's getting out there
Speaker 1: because it's hot, I'm gonna tell you what the difference is.
Speaker 1: Why I think the difference is that back in the days,
Speaker 1: that's is horrible. That makes me. But back in the days,
Speaker 1: you needed to work and pay certain dudes to get
Speaker 1: in a studio, record on tape or whatever the funk
Speaker 1: digital wouldn't matter. DJ F and you you lived in
Speaker 1: the arrow. No, no, this is a great fall in
Speaker 1: that area. But but we're talking. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: got fucking white hairs and that's cool. But listen, Jan,
Speaker 1: we've been we we in back to the future in
Speaker 1: real life. But we're but I'm giving, We're giving the
Speaker 1: comparison though, comparison. What do you think about young Thunk?
Speaker 1: I'm unsure about. I don't get That's what I was
Speaker 1: trying to talk about from there. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: want to know what is it authentic to whatever he
Speaker 1: comes from that he's wearing what he's wearing like, I
Speaker 1: know the music is read as inonating for sure. The
Speaker 1: music is resona check this out. I don't even when
Speaker 1: when A Drake and J Coole first came out at
Speaker 1: the same time, I didn't understand why Motherfucker's was sucking
Speaker 1: with Jacole because Drink had the better song and it
Speaker 1: was I forget what it was at the time he had,
Speaker 1: but it was a song he were like, let's be
Speaker 1: on honest. Yeah. Well, the difference is the audience has expanded. Difference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't about to say so, Um, Jacole had who
Speaker 1: that who that who that? I thought that was some bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like J Money had who that first? That's
Speaker 1: a Miami niggafy? Yo? Man, what then is up Jacole Niggle?
Speaker 1: Why then popper? You know what he said? He said, Hey,
Speaker 1: you need to find out why he's popping so you
Speaker 1: can get yourself popping right now. I believe that that's
Speaker 1: true because otherwise you don't to be your side fifty won't.
Speaker 1: I can't down young dog. I just I want to
Speaker 1: know where does that come from? Like story, what is
Speaker 1: his story going on or something? If I'm at the bar, right,
Speaker 1: I'm buying a drink, Yeah, I'm looking at what's in
Speaker 1: the bar. I'm in the mood. And and and a
Speaker 1: young Plug record comes on and it's it's says a
Speaker 1: whole chain of events and you have no choice. Is
Speaker 1: music as opposed to like an artist? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's that you understand when you hit that vein,
Speaker 1: you don't have to ask why it's like, Yo, listen
Speaker 1: because you know why. You know why. I like the
Speaker 1: new generation. Okay, let me go, you guys go man,
Speaker 1: let me just listen because I gotta flate focus this
Speaker 1: is the reason why I'm with combat on this. That's
Speaker 1: my whole experience movement to Miami. Like I'm a hardcore
Speaker 1: boom bat hip hop left track, I get, I get divorce.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm doing it. I got no choice. I'm
Speaker 1: going It's not Club eleven, it's gold Rushing. It's gold
Speaker 1: rushing at the time. I'm going, so be loud. That's
Speaker 1: big up Micah, even though he don't no more stacks stacks.
Speaker 1: So they got me coming out here. And and the
Speaker 1: thing is, I couldn't easily been that old New York
Speaker 1: nigger like, well you don't play cog Rat and why
Speaker 1: I don't gonna play? And I was and and let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me just keep it up. Hunting Ecstacy
Speaker 1: was popping at that time, and so was I, and
Speaker 1: I felt every music in that motherfucker. I was like,
Speaker 1: what ship? This ship is hot, like this ning is
Speaker 1: like exactly, and I'm working with it. But it actually
Speaker 1: made me young because I adapted to every environment. Then
Speaker 1: when I went back to New York, I would never
Speaker 1: forget this. I went back to New York, I went
Speaker 1: and the same music was playing, and my nigga said,
Speaker 1: why you smile, and I'm like, damn, man, my, yeah, mean,
Speaker 1: these records is popping, and these niggers just looked at
Speaker 1: me like, we don't funk with that over there, And
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. I merely knew I could be
Speaker 1: by coast from that very moment, because I really did
Speaker 1: feel these records. But when I was in New York,
Speaker 1: I was really like, I understand why y'all don't feel it,
Speaker 1: because y'all ain't got palm, bitches, I mean palm. New
Speaker 1: York is the smallest market on the fucking planet. It's
Speaker 1: the smallest market, but still the most influence. We had
Speaker 1: the most influence that this year. This Now, this is
Speaker 1: the thing about New York. We've always had the most
Speaker 1: influence until our influence became the major influence and bring down.
Speaker 1: Like when our ship became the stand it when fucking
Speaker 1: when fucking Dr Dre took public enemy and flipped it
Speaker 1: into n w A and expanded the market. You got
Speaker 1: you gotta say l A like the West Coast. The
Speaker 1: West Coast is a market of it of itself that
Speaker 1: flips into the South, that flips into up until up
Speaker 1: until Jersey. So when you look at the whole scheme
Speaker 1: of the music industry. New York is one city and
Speaker 1: it's the whole fucking New York also fucked up a
Speaker 1: lot of things because it was so it was organic.
Speaker 1: But when when yes, when New York was too exclusive.
Speaker 1: But when I'm from I'm from the South region, what
Speaker 1: New York thought, nobody else can do it like us,
Speaker 1: that's when you fucked up. That's what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: we only want And then what happened every other region.
Speaker 1: It got so big that people like d C and
Speaker 1: Jinja actually started. But DC is the South. D C
Speaker 1: is the sound, yeah, but in the South. But d
Speaker 1: C Niggas is k we described. I lived in d C.
Speaker 1: D is opposite d Niggas. That's East cos in my opinion,
Speaker 1: they're New York Now that's East coast to Georgia. In
Speaker 1: I went to Georgetown, push, it stays from the East
Speaker 1: coast to me when I stayed from when I stayed
Speaker 1: in what I mean, but I love the South. We're
Speaker 1: on the East coast, and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You go to graphical so let me take let me
Speaker 1: say that. But that's where it goes wrong though. That's
Speaker 1: listen coming from an E P M D Run DMC,
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came rock him in environment and in the
Speaker 1: eighties living in Georgetown three, I went to Georgetown Law
Speaker 1: for three years. I'm in d C. That's when he
Speaker 1: went to and the only nigga they're playing from New
Speaker 1: York is Kumo D Kumo D. I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: his country, you see his country. They're not fucking with
Speaker 1: the niggas that we funk with. They fun with country niggas.
Speaker 1: When they say that again in d C. In d
Speaker 1: C in the eighties, I'm with rock Cam, Big Daddy
Speaker 1: came EPMD. I go to I go to DC and
Speaker 1: the only rap nigga they're playing, it's Komo D. Who's
Speaker 1: the only Who's the country is nigga out of New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you say country is that sounds very I don't
Speaker 1: like it. Why do you say that? Why do you
Speaker 1: say because him South niggas and his two New York sounds?
Speaker 1: Why you don't like that? And let me tell you
Speaker 1: when I when I was coming up man Indicata and stuff,
Speaker 1: and a lot of New York niggers was coming down
Speaker 1: to you understand Grove, you know, and all schools and ship.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought they was smarter than that stuff. We thought
Speaker 1: it was a game and ship. We're just having a
Speaker 1: Southern drawl. Don't get it confused. Just like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, uh with Tony Nis ain't playing the South.
Speaker 1: We we beat New you up, niggas up. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not God. Two changes flipped on you. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, add what you you favored to change over?
Speaker 1: Men like I ain't got gooms to you already apologize.
Speaker 1: I can't go back. I can't say that. I ain't
Speaker 1: say that at all. I didn't say that we have
Speaker 1: to order some food. We made some hip hop. Can
Speaker 1: we go to somebody? But that's even gonna be the game.
Speaker 1: Kids to be conversation going why you didn't got to
Speaker 1: get a bit of gamester and my opinion in my opinion,
Speaker 1: um because you know, you know what somebody told me.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me one day there was like you're a
Speaker 1: New York nigger that understood the South early. Yeah, super
Speaker 1: super thug was our was our was our beat? Was
Speaker 1: our realized they kind of jumping us, Jack, are you
Speaker 1: with me? Still? Listen? Listen? How are jumping You don't Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I know I'm right. Listen, right in your heart, you
Speaker 1: know I'm right. All right, Come the wind beneath your wings,
Speaker 1: speak to the mist podcast get here you. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I passed the blunt or who I passed
Speaker 1: it too, but it was a bad move. Listen, so listen.
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas told me that when I you
Speaker 1: know this super Doug, but a lot of people didn't.
Speaker 1: They said that, you know, I understood the understood the South.
Speaker 1: Think about who super thug. Yes, I'm popping him the South.
Speaker 1: I'm getting to that. But what I'm saying is, at
Speaker 1: first nobody you knew who the fun These people were
Speaker 1: absolutely didn't know who this This is two years after
Speaker 1: the record is a hit, and then he produced for Mystical,
Speaker 1: and then they produced for Whole and then they actually
Speaker 1: claimed this is a South sound. But I already got
Speaker 1: two albums. I got n O R E, which nobody
Speaker 1: at this time. I brought him to every artist in
Speaker 1: the world. It wasn'utntil old non. What you believe is
Speaker 1: the Melvin Flint, I'm not sure I could be bugging.
Speaker 1: And after that, every artist ran to the nigger. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is At first people could not identify
Speaker 1: where that sound came from. But afterwards people said that
Speaker 1: I was up early on on the South Sound. And
Speaker 1: that's great, that take that. But I always looked at
Speaker 1: Virginia as Virginia was at East coast state Virginia Maryland,
Speaker 1: Virginia for the more, the capital of the south of
Speaker 1: the Confederacy. Yeah, but them niggas is them niggas is
Speaker 1: New York crazy East Coast in me, you don't agree,
Speaker 1: He looked at me, crazy, I'm just drunk right now.
Speaker 1: To me, South stars at South Coast. Like Pip Pipsie
Speaker 1: had had this argument. He said that people from Atlanta
Speaker 1: wasn't really people Atlanta because he said, y'all. Same time,
Speaker 1: it's on the East coast. Remember he said that Jersey
Speaker 1: nigg is the South to me, Oh, come on South.
Speaker 1: To me, that's your name. That's crazy. That's why New
Speaker 1: York is sucking up like I'm bringing back there. But
Speaker 1: I'm green to that. But when you go to Jersey,
Speaker 1: the hip hop is so different. But let me tell
Speaker 1: you right real quick, a little I wouldn't say country
Speaker 1: though it's just a friend. I would saying my boys
Speaker 1: down here. My crew, we all united and a lot
Speaker 1: of them are from Jersey, and we always had this
Speaker 1: thing against the New York hats that were that were
Speaker 1: coming down to Miami because they were now always just
Speaker 1: trying to like deepo their way in. And it was
Speaker 1: funny because the New Jersey with me and they got
Speaker 1: it because they were getting it like that you said
Speaker 1: right now, they wasn't feeling that, you know what I'm saying. Look,
Speaker 1: Jersey niggas was still two change. Got you funked up
Speaker 1: thinking about But let's not okay, okay, let's let me
Speaker 1: ask the fact that you're saying sound I feel like
Speaker 1: you might. Let me ask you. I'm ready for whatever that.
Speaker 1: Don't place value what I'm saying. Don't place value what
Speaker 1: i'm saying because let combat talk combat. Don't place value
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, don't don't don't play good or bad.
Speaker 1: As a Brooklyn cat. Whenever we got into Jersey, it
Speaker 1: was different. And the further we got from Jersey, the
Speaker 1: more south became. So for me as a Brooklyn nigga,
Speaker 1: the minute you cross Jersey, you're going further south. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. It's not out of disrespect. It's it's
Speaker 1: out of it. But you don't think that mentality is
Speaker 1: what I got to say something I agree with nothing
Speaker 1: this nigga just said just now because because to me,
Speaker 1: you know, Philly was my number one market on steroids
Speaker 1: in my opinions, is different, No, but it was no.
Speaker 1: Philly niggas was just as grimy as the early Square Mall.
Speaker 1: That what I'm saying is it me, I'll be Square
Speaker 1: more downtown where you had to get your fronts and
Speaker 1: pull your gun out. What got them all for the
Speaker 1: next level? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what we're
Speaker 1: saying you got the next level. You remember that DJ
Speaker 1: quick record. Everybody's like Compton. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's exact term, but that made sense. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a Compton dude. But when I went out of town,
Speaker 1: everybody's like, everybody's hard. Everybody's But at the same time,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is this, What I'm saying is this
Speaker 1: Berrow to Barrow, city to city niggas played different. Yes
Speaker 1: with that, So when you go to Philly, when you
Speaker 1: go to Philly, like these niggas look like Brooklyn niggas.
Speaker 1: These niggas look like New York niggas, but the wrong term,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But then is different, So you
Speaker 1: gotta understand. And this is the beautiful thing about culture
Speaker 1: black white black, like just the d sport of black.
Speaker 1: When you go into a different culture, you gotta understand that,
Speaker 1: ship expect that, and humble yourself. It's true. So New
Speaker 1: York niggas coming to feeling like this is New York,
Speaker 1: maybe we will lay you the funk down, right. You
Speaker 1: gotta respect when you go. Know. But but what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is for me, for me, for my experience.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I came up ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I started going on the road from seven. I went
Speaker 1: from New York. I went from Camden, New Jersey. I
Speaker 1: went from Trenton. I went from uh skipped, I skipped
Speaker 1: new Work. I'm going to the whole nunty five. I
Speaker 1: skipped Newark. Excuse me. I started in Nework. Then I
Speaker 1: went to camp. Then I went to Trenton, and then
Speaker 1: from there I went to Philly, phill it was my
Speaker 1: number one market. From Philly, I went to a Connecticut Uhlware, Delaware.
Speaker 1: I went to Maryland. I went to Bordom All I
Speaker 1: went to d C. D when you hit the DC
Speaker 1: never changed. I'm saying, there's always I'm saying, as the
Speaker 1: journey went through once with d C, Yeah, the market blossom. No,
Speaker 1: the market was already blossom. But the only time I
Speaker 1: felt like I was like in a in a different
Speaker 1: market was when I went to South Carolina. And the
Speaker 1: only reason why I felt like that, it's because South
Speaker 1: Carolina and niggas was throwing chairs and other niggas in
Speaker 1: the crowd, and I thought that was the gangster ship
Speaker 1: in the world. I was like, oh ship, chairs, ain't
Speaker 1: buckle down, you know like in Apollo and sing like
Speaker 1: that your chance is buckled down. And then when I
Speaker 1: went to South Carolina, said, these niggas as crazy as
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. And then I went to Durham and them
Speaker 1: niggas was crazy as the motherfucker. I went to Raleigh,
Speaker 1: them niggas as crazy as the motherfucker, Charleston everywhere. So
Speaker 1: all I've realized. I realized that we're all the same
Speaker 1: fucking people. The South started and it was a little
Speaker 1: bit more crazy as far as like, you know, throwing
Speaker 1: kids and just getting that motherfucker's but I realized we're
Speaker 1: all the same. But um, you know, I always considered
Speaker 1: that part East Coast. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't mind,
Speaker 1: but it's going in the South. And once again, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking anything what you said because I'm because because
Speaker 1: you see niggas in New York turned up and like,
Speaker 1: that's a New York nigga, exactly when you get to Jersey,
Speaker 1: niggas turned up differently. Yeah, but I still feel that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's one of my best friends
Speaker 1: and family, New York, New Jersey saying, I'm saying this family.
Speaker 1: But I used to look at him like he flipped
Speaker 1: like a New Jersey nigga. And then what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: did I see him flip with the New York nigga?
Speaker 1: I said, this Nigga's just yeah, that's the same ship
Speaker 1: to me. But I understand what he's saying because it's
Speaker 1: ever get it. What I'm saying is this. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is this, this is this is boiling the ship down,
Speaker 1: drinking this fucking vodka right now, and we're drinking Royal Elite.
Speaker 1: Make Fat Joe, no matter where you go, he had
Speaker 1: a block or a neighborhood or a city or town
Speaker 1: your trial. But when you see a trial from a
Speaker 1: different place, it's like I understand which which we're trying.
Speaker 1: It's a family, you know what I'm saying. You might
Speaker 1: do some ship to the left, I might do, but
Speaker 1: with family, it's family. And then when you when you
Speaker 1: incorporate all the differences, that's when you can really appreciate
Speaker 1: family and you understand what I'm saying. You like that
Speaker 1: family respect how you do you respect? But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like together, live together at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. From the moment I came to Miami,
Speaker 1: he brought me to his store, and he knew for
Speaker 1: my music the type of person I asked. He didn't
Speaker 1: have to test me. He knew from the type of
Speaker 1: person I so accordingly he made it right the way
Speaker 1: it is, and me and him been of friends forever.
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to say one decade, because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be young man. He just keeping he's keeping going.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is we get that.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is everybody is that's the
Speaker 1: thing where me and him is still friends for twenty
Speaker 1: years later because he gets that. It doesn't. We fight
Speaker 1: like brothers, no, like every day, almost every day, but
Speaker 1: we keep it moving. God, damn my god, bless you,
Speaker 1: God damn it. You don't even know what drink you
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I haven't been bigger Colombian white. Video were
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Speaker 1: two changes really flipped on your dog. He was, but
Speaker 1: you said apologize to do not you cannot take it back.
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Watch is pretty nice set because I don't
Speaker 1: even think you about to go someway. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go, so I gotta cut you off. Y'all think
Speaker 1: when I cut people off that i'm cutting off. They
Speaker 1: know I'm cutting them all because I know where the
Speaker 1: story ends. That Watch is pretty nice. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: How do you know? I want to say something better,
Speaker 1: say something positive. I want to say is I just
Speaker 1: wanted him to know that I'm a man, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't know sucker, and I didn't want him to know
Speaker 1: that I'm a man, but I felt like I ain't sucker,
Speaker 1: and what you this came just be saying things about me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because I said I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to his face. No, I don't even accepted it wasn't
Speaker 1: on the except let something is on the internet. If
Speaker 1: you don't respond to it on the internet, then that
Speaker 1: can I say something to you that don't count? North
Speaker 1: You got all jokes aside. No, this is all Joseph's side.
Speaker 1: I gave you that. L Listen, Listen, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: you should apologize that. I'm gonna say saying me. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm twenty two, three years old. After defel band
Speaker 1: boy come out right and I my mom at uh,
Speaker 1: Philip Serena, it's bonn Uh. Vonner Brothers has show to
Speaker 1: Chains Circus. No, the Bonner Brothers. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: hair show. And I go up to two Chains and
Speaker 1: dollar there there there Uh it was playing circle and
Speaker 1: I interviewed them and whatnot, and I'm I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of them, and I say, what was happening? First? And first, Uh,
Speaker 1: the first rap fi I've ever seen, first famous person
Speaker 1: I've seen. When I moved up. He was two Chains,
Speaker 1: but he was TV boy. I know who he is.
Speaker 1: I was a fan and when he said, what are
Speaker 1: he's saying about me? It hurts my feelings and I
Speaker 1: didn't like it. And I ain't never been no sucker,
Speaker 1: even though I got one out, I thought, ever since
Speaker 1: I was five years old. But trying no no, no nori,
Speaker 1: ever since I was fat, trying to let niggas know
Speaker 1: I ain't no sucker. So if he game, he can
Speaker 1: get it. But if I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this,
Speaker 1: if anything't happened to me, if anything happened to me,
Speaker 1: am doing ain't We don't fighting. We don't fight. And
Speaker 1: I'm serious, you sniffer go to he look like real nick.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know what it is. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: we about peace right here. That's not what I said.
Speaker 1: He I never sing at you, apologize and say because
Speaker 1: you said I said your dream chance army makes this
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Speaker 1: jealous guy, Prince. You I listen, Prince, you gotta get
Speaker 1: the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, stop dold. No, she was DJ and his parties.
Speaker 1: You know what. And by this time when I met Prince,
Speaker 1: the first time met Prince was maybe a house of
Speaker 1: blues l a M. She was DJ. You know he
Speaker 1: did he float? Now, he didn't levitate to float. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He had a secon back. Prince. Prince knew his hip
Speaker 1: hop when I first met him. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he knew, but he knew certain type of hip
Speaker 1: he knew like Common. He like like Common. I am.
Speaker 1: And it was like he likes certain things into something.
Speaker 1: He like hip hop, and he like hip hop that
Speaker 1: was a little bit more like organic. I was saying,
Speaker 1: Like he liked like Lauren Hill, you know, like Common,
Speaker 1: Like he really liked Common a lot, Like he's a
Speaker 1: Common fan. He was saying, and and and Common is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Common work with him at all.
Speaker 1: I don't know if common common might have worked. Prince.
Speaker 1: He like Erica, but I do a lot. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like Prince I met Yeah, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I met him, he said I like that.
Speaker 1: He said, like, I like that one. So you got
Speaker 1: hot thing? I was saying, I have, so will I
Speaker 1: am hot thing with him? Was on the hook and
Speaker 1: he liked he liked when I am a black eyed
Speaker 1: peas and that type of ship. Um. I started just
Speaker 1: hanging out doing parties. You know my wife, My wife
Speaker 1: would do parties. Prince were shot up at the parties.
Speaker 1: He was just short, hold on, how does this happen?
Speaker 1: Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks
Speaker 1: in the basketball like yeah, no, no, no, I'm starting
Speaker 1: the party. He walking the party. You know, I went
Speaker 1: to a party once in l A. What's that club
Speaker 1: that's across the street from the Beverly Center. The club
Speaker 1: that's the name is Prince walked in the club ended in.
Speaker 1: Prince kept a bunch of us in the club and
Speaker 1: at gunpoint, no, not a good point, but he's Prince.
Speaker 1: He just did to look almost gun point and everybody stayed.
Speaker 1: He put out a little bible Wait, Prince, he's he's
Speaker 1: in Jehovah's witness. Wait, and Jehovah's witness. They get down
Speaker 1: like that, they bring bibles. He started having Bible studies.
Speaker 1: You three, and morning was niggas drinking. There was no
Speaker 1: niggas there. It's only women and me because my wife
Speaker 1: DJ so I was the only nigga. And there was
Speaker 1: one other dude who was a boyfriend of one of
Speaker 1: the other girls. So it's Prince and me and this
Speaker 1: other dude. All right, don't pass that. This other niggas
Speaker 1: passing back to me. I got you this other dude, Prince.
Speaker 1: Prince was quoting, he's quoting the Bible, and this other
Speaker 1: dude trying to say something smart. And now this other
Speaker 1: dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay, he just
Speaker 1: happened to be there. He tried to say something and Prince,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. Prince said, Listen, Um, I know
Speaker 1: you think that you're saying something to add onto the conversation,
Speaker 1: but you really you know what I'm saying. From what
Speaker 1: you're saying, I can tell you don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. So how about you just not participating? The
Speaker 1: Prince about the whipper Nigga asked, but I'm asking was
Speaker 1: He politely told him, you don't know the funk you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No, he did not.
Speaker 1: He did not. I've been. I've been several clubs and
Speaker 1: Princes had chuck keep his clothes, keep going on to
Speaker 1: sprint stories the club? Do you have been? The Zeni
Speaker 1: and I l A they used at the party called Zeni.
Speaker 1: They used to happen. I have Big Zini before because
Speaker 1: Big z at two o'clock in the morning, the clubs
Speaker 1: and l A clothes all right, yes, and then and
Speaker 1: then the dude used to have this party called Zeni.
Speaker 1: We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios.
Speaker 1: Jim Henson, right, and need to know these types of
Speaker 1: people I live, come on party when I'm bad. I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with big Big Bird with Ernie and
Speaker 1: Bart and Bird and Ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he's at these parties. But they used to bring
Speaker 1: the alcohol and they used to set up stay you
Speaker 1: just have go go dances and all the celebrities used
Speaker 1: to go, and all the basketball players and that's it.
Speaker 1: He's definitely. I was with l A prince called my
Speaker 1: wife and he said, wait, the party at and we
Speaker 1: said we had ZENI yeah, he said I'm coming. And
Speaker 1: this nigger just rolled up and told I had the
Speaker 1: privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen, I'm bringing Prince.
Speaker 1: I got a Justin Biebers story. When you finish, I'm
Speaker 1: bringing prince. How the hell is just prince going together?
Speaker 1: Because Justin Biebers said that what Prince hain't the only
Speaker 1: nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't remember that. This
Speaker 1: great hate when to be cut us all. Like the
Speaker 1: Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing and
Speaker 1: he said, this party is great, but why is she
Speaker 1: up there dancing with no clothes on? She was, he
Speaker 1: had clothes on, she things covered, But he said why
Speaker 1: She just said, they don't need to be that, you know,
Speaker 1: because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince. This is not
Speaker 1: the last dragon Prince, because this is not like, definitely
Speaker 1: not the Prince wild back in the days in the eighties,
Speaker 1: he was out of control. So I said, listen out.
Speaker 1: He asked me to introduce him to the party promoter.
Speaker 1: I introduce him, and he said. He explained to me.
Speaker 1: He said, listen to girls. They bring business people by drinks.
Speaker 1: Prince and let me talk to her. You're trying to convert.
Speaker 1: Let me talk to her. Need to hear this, saying
Speaker 1: the girl. He talked to the girl. The girl didn't
Speaker 1: know who Prince was. Same young chick, young chick dance
Speaker 1: in the club. She might have heard the name Prince.
Speaker 1: She didn't know. She's gonna die at night. This is
Speaker 1: a long time ago. The story, the old story. She turned.
Speaker 1: He said. He said, how much are they paying you
Speaker 1: to be in to dance with your clothes off? She
Speaker 1: said the number? He said, I'll pay you double to
Speaker 1: get down off that stage. Go home. Let's make the
Speaker 1: noise of it. Prints being a trick? Is that reverse pimper?
Speaker 1: Put your clothes on? Prince invented reverse pimping. She said,
Speaker 1: I'll take your money tonight, but what am I going
Speaker 1: to do tomorrow night? That's what this girl said to Prince.
Speaker 1: I want response. What was his? He said, I don't
Speaker 1: have no control for that. That's real that I got
Speaker 1: to why your motherfucker? I'm not gonna calla verbat him
Speaker 1: sounds he did say that. Beyond that, he basically explained
Speaker 1: to her. He was like, listen, I'm giving you an
Speaker 1: opportunity to make a different decision in your life. I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I watched him explain to this girl and talk to
Speaker 1: the girl, and I knew from the way that she
Speaker 1: was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy.
Speaker 1: She didn't understand. She was just like, Okay, yeah, Prince
Speaker 1: had an album covered with like three bitches button neked
Speaker 1: on top of him, maybe some dudes and everybody thought
Speaker 1: he was gay. He wasn't ready for your princess. Princes God, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he stuck to his guns and he understood every artist.
Speaker 1: And me and Nori, the fact that we even here
Speaker 1: doing drink champs can we talking about about we understand
Speaker 1: that every artists got contradictions nature of being an artist.
Speaker 1: It's true, Hirst One, the person that we revere is
Speaker 1: the most contradictory artists whatever, But we were That's part
Speaker 1: of being human, like you said, being because all human
Speaker 1: beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions amplified because people pay
Speaker 1: more attention. You say, everybody got contradictions. Artists, we just
Speaker 1: we create out of our contradiction, right, But Prince was
Speaker 1: like Jesus man, listen, we tell you something I've never liked.
Speaker 1: Billy Dee Williams transcended for me. Like, what I mean
Speaker 1: by that is like Billy Dee Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince
Speaker 1: and Michael Jackson was people who were like, you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up in a different you know, a different time,
Speaker 1: were like that. He did, Billy d Williamson, that's a
Speaker 1: good nig with Michael Jackson and Prince, and they said,
Speaker 1: Billy d those were certain people. You know, those are
Speaker 1: certain people. Yeah, drink, I'm still going in the secondary.
Speaker 1: That's a smooth din in my taste now. But you know,
Speaker 1: for those those those four individuals right there, those are
Speaker 1: the people who transcended life for me. There was the
Speaker 1: people that no, no, no, let's keep it over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's keep it over here. So those are the people
Speaker 1: that transcend the life for me. What I mean by
Speaker 1: that is like, you know, as a black person growing
Speaker 1: up young in my life, I can't describe anybody else
Speaker 1: here or anybody in my life. It was like, those
Speaker 1: are the people that said, you can't do this, you
Speaker 1: can't do that, and they did it, and I was
Speaker 1: just like I always looked at them. It was like,
Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't gotta be like them, but I
Speaker 1: respect that what I'm saying. And that's why when I
Speaker 1: met with people like for Real, it was easy for
Speaker 1: me to say, I don't want to stand you, and
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really get where you're going
Speaker 1: at Your music is fucking ba. How did you meet?
Speaker 1: That's how almost how I met for uh, we was
Speaker 1: in sound on sound studios. Everybody's to stake everybody suhould
Speaker 1: think Biggie was to be called at Daddy's house. Something
Speaker 1: happened at Daddy's house. I don't remember, but big rememborable moment.
Speaker 1: I'm good one. But another memorable one was when we
Speaker 1: was working on Murder music and we was in an
Speaker 1: Electric Lady right there on West ad for something like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like then I had came back and one
Speaker 1: of my homebies, like in Prince's out there. I was like,
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, so he went and
Speaker 1: got hold on. You want to tell me you met Prince? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never been in the vicinity of the snake words. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never and that's how I feel about Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so we're in the studio. One of my
Speaker 1: homeboys was like, yo, Princess out there. I was like,
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. He was like, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll bring that again. Mad cool. He fucking brought Prince
Speaker 1: in the studio. Now I'm about this electric lady. Remember
Speaker 1: this is Jimmy Hendricks. Now I'm about this talk, I'm
Speaker 1: about this tour whatever. Prince is like this and he
Speaker 1: had he did he just know, he just had one
Speaker 1: on hills. So I was making so I was so
Speaker 1: I was making a beat and then I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, Prince like he just hung out at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, is there anything I need to
Speaker 1: do to the beat? Because he's like hold on that.
Speaker 1: They got over the keyboard. He started swear to guard.
Speaker 1: He was that cool yoh yes, and I'm gonna beat
Speaker 1: and then snoop, I'm doing the beat and this record
Speaker 1: came out. It came out. Record is this It's called
Speaker 1: shall Now Kill? Listen to it? Oh my god, Prince.
Speaker 1: They probably walked away and say, don't give me credit.
Speaker 1: How do you play the key? Then Nigga walked down,
Speaker 1: didn't even say bye. How about dad credit? He was like,
Speaker 1: because producers live the elless Like like producers live the
Speaker 1: ellis life. Let's just keep it here. It's okay, no
Speaker 1: nosess life, right, I mean, because you guys not only
Speaker 1: get to make your own project, but you get to
Speaker 1: go out there like with with the Big We You
Speaker 1: wasn't there with Big Lady vocals? No, I wasn't there
Speaker 1: with Big Who was you there? Like the blown your
Speaker 1: way to lad your vocal lad? They vote of your beats,
Speaker 1: Little Kim and Foxy mm to go no no, no
Speaker 1: y no. But I saw them east time, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when I was gonna go Foxy,
Speaker 1: I've seen and last, but definitely not least, we celebrate
Speaker 1: the life of the legendary Big Pun. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of you already know, Nori and Fat Joe's shirt a
Speaker 1: very special friendship with Pun, So it's only right that
Speaker 1: we share some of these Big Punch stories told in
Speaker 1: our very first episode of Drink Chance with Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: you know. And then when he passed, My brother was
Speaker 1: number one, and I always maintained number two, So I
Speaker 1: always was cool being number two. So then when I
Speaker 1: started rapping and it's fat Joe and then I'll bring
Speaker 1: Pun in the game. And I realized that Pun is
Speaker 1: a hundred times better than me. I fell right into
Speaker 1: number two. I was like, yo, let's I'll hold it
Speaker 1: off for this thing. I ask you something that I
Speaker 1: always wondered. So you met Remy through Punt, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: so so Punt had rem she is big puns artists.
Speaker 1: Because I remember Pun, I remember Fun. I was so jealous.
Speaker 1: I was so jealous because it wasn't too many cruise
Speaker 1: where you had a nigger as nice at Pun, and
Speaker 1: then you had a bitch there was like the nicest
Speaker 1: bitch in the game. So he was like, yo, twin,
Speaker 1: I want you to hear this girl I signed. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, so I see if she had the level vests,
Speaker 1: I can never forget that ship. And then she just
Speaker 1: went off for like ten minutes streets and that's what
Speaker 1: she was saying, I shoot the air bubble welt your
Speaker 1: sneakers and she was just going I was like, so jealous, man.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my
Speaker 1: head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I
Speaker 1: didn find So then after she rocks punt hit muzeral twin.
Speaker 1: You know she your artist twin, Like you know, she
Speaker 1: signed to me, but we signed to you. He had
Speaker 1: a label. It was Terror Squad the whole time. But
Speaker 1: he discovered He say, yo, he signed it. He discovered her.
Speaker 1: But he's like, was kind. But I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: want to say, thank God. And uh, you know what,
Speaker 1: you did a deal with her after passed. No, no,
Speaker 1: pe was alive. We just we did the deal with her.
Speaker 1: But while Palem was alive. You know. You know, Come'm saying,
Speaker 1: most loyal realist in the world. We don't just say
Speaker 1: that because he's dead because some nigga's dad piece of ship.
Speaker 1: You know, Palem was one of the most loyalist niggers
Speaker 1: in the world. Most fun I mean, the way I
Speaker 1: say it is like, um, you know, I was the
Speaker 1: youngest kid in my house. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I never had a younger brother, So Palem was like
Speaker 1: the young brother I never had, and I was like
Speaker 1: the big brother he never had. And uh, immediately, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's almost like a relationship. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, in order to make a marriage last. It's
Speaker 1: like you really got to sign it mentally and heart wise.
Speaker 1: You gotta really say you no matter what happens, I
Speaker 1: want to stay with this woman for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life and cut your hands for the academic Come on, Joe,
Speaker 1: you're I'm just saying, let's not. It's just like y'all,
Speaker 1: nobody's stopping this ship, right, And it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with like you know, with with me and pun. You know,
Speaker 1: after I heard him round for the first time, he
Speaker 1: sat in my car and he immediately I don't know
Speaker 1: how and why, but he was telling me ship. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell Nori now about myself, and that's my brother,
Speaker 1: Like I could go to war with Norri, like I
Speaker 1: would really kill for Nori, He'll kill for me. I
Speaker 1: would not tell him some person who ship in my
Speaker 1: family growing up and all that. So five minutes later,
Speaker 1: I'm riding with the nigga. This nig is telling me
Speaker 1: the deepest ship I ever heard of, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there with him. I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a street nigga. I'm like, why is this naked telling
Speaker 1: me all this ship? Right? So I'm sitting in there
Speaker 1: like this, So I knew his life story. The first
Speaker 1: twenty minutes after I left them I met him, I
Speaker 1: already knew it, but let everybody asked you something because
Speaker 1: we were in and there like like like ta to right.
Speaker 1: Had jay Z's boy had brung me beyond that right
Speaker 1: and I had to joint bald equal And he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: she wants to do this recket. She wants to do
Speaker 1: it like Barbados and listen, check to check what I said.
Speaker 1: But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar
Speaker 1: budget at the time. I said no, Right, I said no,
Speaker 1: I passed on that. Did you know the minute you
Speaker 1: met Puny that this was the next dude? Or was
Speaker 1: it instant or like, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Um, I know music probably more
Speaker 1: than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry wasn't
Speaker 1: scared of me for being such a gangster there, I
Speaker 1: would be the president everything. Nobody really know more than me.
Speaker 1: Every time they turned around and they give a nigga
Speaker 1: a new job, they I put it on blast. The
Speaker 1: minute they gave Joey president of the Scope, he picked
Speaker 1: the phone up, called me saying I learned everything from you,
Speaker 1: my brother. Please, you don't even understand everything. I know.
Speaker 1: It's because of you everything I like. Niggas get presidents
Speaker 1: and they studied you my whole life. You are the
Speaker 1: smartest nicking. But they're scared of me, so they won't
Speaker 1: give me that position. Don't know why because I'm the
Speaker 1: nicest nick in the world. Right, So when I met
Speaker 1: pun and the niggas started rapping, So alright, the scene
Speaker 1: is I told her a million times. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell ship on your ship that I told everybody.
Speaker 1: But but I'm gonna just saying because were family, so
Speaker 1: I go. You know, I was one of the only
Speaker 1: him being another one too, so I can't start on him.
Speaker 1: But I'm one of the only rappers that actually was rich,
Speaker 1: actually was gold already and were still in my hood.
Speaker 1: Like I live in apartment five. Like literally, hold on,
Speaker 1: everybody better make noise for this. I am also from
Speaker 1: apartment five, So you know what's crazy? I studied hip hop.
Speaker 1: Jay Z was also from apartment five. What is that?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? We're we gotta break? He's from Miami?
Speaker 1: Now I know what literally what that means I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is there a hidden meaning behind no, we're gonna, You're gonna,
Speaker 1: You're not. You're gonna ask first. Let me also make
Speaker 1: some noise for my brother Kake. You know Ray Kawon's brother.
Speaker 1: He once hold happy birthday, Happy birthdays. I don't see it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: excuse me. Somebody get that man to drink. Somebody get
Speaker 1: that man to drink. We ain't got no brown, We
Speaker 1: ain't got no brown. Okay, okay, I know you called me,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you I had it, but nobody never
Speaker 1: gave me my sneakers, my purple you first, wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: we got it. He told me I'm gonna pick it up.
Speaker 1: Could I still get him on the gone. Let's let's
Speaker 1: go straight. I'm glad you brought into hit. Are you
Speaker 1: the snaker king? Um? And if you are, you know
Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna end this on this, but part of
Speaker 1: the best Latina rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right
Speaker 1: the bottom real quick. When I when I heard when
Speaker 1: I heard him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It
Speaker 1: was mere God on the getting And okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: the first put that on a mixtape, my Mixtapeia. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you know, nobody had ever heard anything I
Speaker 1: put on the mixtape here in Miami, and I was like,
Speaker 1: dude is fucking killing it. But I didn't know who
Speaker 1: he was. I just but then I knew. I knew
Speaker 1: he was Latina. I was like, we got one. That's it,
Speaker 1: you know, that's it because be just so you know.
Speaker 1: At that same time, Big is my favorite rapper, thinking
Speaker 1: in the Craze crew that's my brother to my other
Speaker 1: favorite rap was a member of two crews with two
Speaker 1: of the greatest rappers the old times. That's that's That's
Speaker 1: where I'm like, this is it? Yeah, yeah, we got him, yea,
Speaker 1: I really it's just almost like Chin Chin angelsts him
Speaker 1: in Evangelists and then God, I know Putt was great.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was the greatest until like after
Speaker 1: after his shriner. I remember me standing there and crying
Speaker 1: at the and God bless the dad. Flex flex Ts
Speaker 1: was the one who came and grabbed me because I
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do, Like I still started crying.
Speaker 1: My mother came to the keeping Real without me. My
Speaker 1: mom said, my mom's didn't wait for me to come.
Speaker 1: Mother with man from the boat danger like crazy. It
Speaker 1: was so crazy because the people who came to that funeral.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like crazy, man. Like it was
Speaker 1: like people that from our community that never even talk
Speaker 1: to us. Was like, you know, they were so proud
Speaker 1: they were showing up and you was like, yo, that's
Speaker 1: just my school teacher, you know. So I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: crying and I walked by my school teacher, come and
Speaker 1: grab me and like, yo, be strong. This is that
Speaker 1: like we touched so many niguas in the hood. It
Speaker 1: was crazy, but it was like that too. I never
Speaker 1: forget too. I was at one point, I was at
Speaker 1: point funeral and I was crying and uh, it was
Speaker 1: John Rule And I looked up and it was John
Speaker 1: Rule was there one deep too. He was like be strong, crack,
Speaker 1: don't worry, be strong. And that ship, that punch ship
Speaker 1: was serious man. And this is what I remember Flex
Speaker 1: grabbing me and just was like no, he's not suffering
Speaker 1: no more. And the crazy Yet I've never seen Pun
Speaker 1: suffer like when Pun, I know we can we're going
Speaker 1: too much, but we're gonna stop it soon. But when
Speaker 1: Pun used to half sleep apnea, like when he used
Speaker 1: to go like this, I used to think Pun was
Speaker 1: playing with me, Like God bless me because you know.
Speaker 1: Now I know, but back then, I used to like
Speaker 1: damn my fucking stories, just boring people like Yo, we
Speaker 1: would be talking like it was good. I'm like, ho, alright,
Speaker 1: let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh in a
Speaker 1: different way, in a special way. And the niggas used
Speaker 1: to hang out. They used to chill like we're still void, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's when Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like
Speaker 1: he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all
Speaker 1: he thinks about me and Pun. We wanted to have fun.
Speaker 1: We was younger. You know what I'm saying, Joe's olg.
Speaker 1: It's a fact because we used to be on the
Speaker 1: road everything like and Punning smoked weed. He drank cards
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like this like just
Speaker 1: started drinking, like really, like you just started legally drinking
Speaker 1: like that. So serious. He was like like every day
Speaker 1: like this, I'll tell my son this to us and listen, bro,
Speaker 1: we was born with nothing, my niked and if we
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, nigga,
Speaker 1: let's just go get it. And we can't make it.
Speaker 1: We gotta go get this fucking money man, because all
Speaker 1: the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times
Speaker 1: all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give us a
Speaker 1: fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We Nigga's got
Speaker 1: a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries.
Speaker 1: Now nigg is just throwing this money at us, Like
Speaker 1: what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's go
Speaker 1: get this fucking money. And and and and and that's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I'm about right now. I'm in
Speaker 1: the car with my sun wrap. I'm in the car.
Speaker 1: One of my baked on him two minutes before I
Speaker 1: came here because he was like, yo, engineer, ain't really
Speaker 1: doing it right there. I'm like, nikking you fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end it
Speaker 1: on this. Back in the days, you couldn't send the email.
Speaker 1: You have to run around with two tapes like this
Speaker 1: that she was like carrying a mitchet. Yeah it was Stow.
Speaker 1: I've never been to and this is my engineer right here.
Speaker 1: Has it it sounds I produce something, my friend, but
Speaker 1: has I have never had a session with you unless
Speaker 1: I did four records. Keep it real. I'm gonna look away,
Speaker 1: so like I'm not giving you know, fine, am I
Speaker 1: lying these four? At least four? Because you know why
Speaker 1: it's not because but back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 1: on the lockout or three thousand dollars on the lockout,
Speaker 1: I had to do yo on this ship. I'm keeping
Speaker 1: it real. Seeing then War Report album was done over
Speaker 1: two years, but it was only like five to seven
Speaker 1: sessions because we recalled it eight nine records. When we
Speaker 1: went in there and you know, tragedy put us on.
Speaker 1: He you had this wave, man, you your wave, it's
Speaker 1: like you know, special waves. But what it was, man,
Speaker 1: you could do whatever you wanted, nor nor you you're
Speaker 1: funny nigging. And then it's like it's like it was
Speaker 1: like maybe he was bugging out, but to us, it
Speaker 1: was like flows. We never heard righting thing. Thing I'm
Speaker 1: thing is saying this ship, you know what that came from?
Speaker 1: What was the joint you did? Um? And we gotta
Speaker 1: gotta go with you. What was the joint you did?
Speaker 1: I think it was in the firm. You know this leaving,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I can get the story of
Speaker 1: that and then we break out. But listen, it goes
Speaker 1: that is that one Mike h Nor we know this,
Speaker 1: we know that, yeah, because I'm leave. Yeah. And it
Speaker 1: was another one you did for NAS, right, was it
Speaker 1: Nas or more Deep? It was blood Money, Blood Money, Money,
Speaker 1: the Money, the one when we did that during the
Speaker 1: Firm album. Um the Funnies Ship. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: to you from the outside, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you don't go ahead tell me you was like the
Speaker 1: illest nigger right there, like like right there when they
Speaker 1: snatched you up, because it was a big move for
Speaker 1: you and I. I had just shot nigger the projects too,
Speaker 1: and it was like and I kept hanging out there.
Speaker 1: They it was like what this thing is from the
Speaker 1: left cracking left Brack left money minutes and I kept
Speaker 1: hanging out and I gotta I gotta give the love
Speaker 1: the Jungle. Jungle was the dude like Jungle was like,
Speaker 1: we're fucking want him, we want to shoot up you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But what I'm saying is they
Speaker 1: recruited you and you was just like it was so ill.
Speaker 1: I was just like and you know, and you know
Speaker 1: from them my very first feature, my very first feature
Speaker 1: after that was the Punt the record, my very first
Speaker 1: feature after that, I mean put in punt Um. You know,
Speaker 1: Punt's first words he ever said to me? What he said?
Speaker 1: He said because I was it was in a session,
Speaker 1: the first this is the first words you ever said
Speaker 1: to me. This is the first words you ever said
Speaker 1: to me. You said, y'all cnn, huh. He woke this
Speaker 1: unique studio, unique studios, thinking walks and the punt wasn't
Speaker 1: He goes, y'all seeing there? Huh. I'm like, you said,
Speaker 1: which one of your niggas got shot? And then Palm
Speaker 1: raised his hand and then y'all start keep hearing gunshot
Speaker 1: rooms and ship. I was like, this is very awkward
Speaker 1: home shows and ship. Then and then he goes, which
Speaker 1: one of yours Puerto Weekend? And I raised my hand
Speaker 1: and this is this is one hundred said facts. I
Speaker 1: was just like, because I've never met these nis, I
Speaker 1: love this nigga, but I don't want em to think
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker. He just walked in my studios. Actually
Speaker 1: Blue told you to walk over right. Buck Wild is
Speaker 1: doing the beat. Maybe we buck Wild and then Plank
Speaker 1: goes to me. He goes, yo, you bought the weekend
Speaker 1: and I go, yeah, he goes, so wipe the ice
Speaker 1: crilled off ba ba because we're gonna be friends. And
Speaker 1: from that moment, you know, the nigga made me laugh.
Speaker 1: I was racist from that moment and it was some
Speaker 1: of the ask people I have a mat man, Joe.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. You've never left me. You know,
Speaker 1: you've always been there for me. Is his birthday? Happy birthday, brother,
Speaker 1: but Ray Kwan the chef before you leave Top three
Speaker 1: friends again on behalf of myself and Nori. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to this Memorial Day episode of Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed reliving these moments with us. Stay
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Speaker 1: all the guests that we've had on Drink Champs for
Speaker 1: these past couple of years, few years. I mean, without them,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be here. If you know, those guests is
Speaker 1: what what make it special. They come to on the
Speaker 1: show and they have fun with us, and that's what counts.
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Speaker 1: maintainment crew sucked out everybody out there shots. My boy
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