WEBVTT - Episode 164 “Moments” (Memorial Day Edition) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.840 Here at drink Champs, we honor and respect our veterans 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.400 who have bravely served and continue to serve our country, 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.160 especially those we have lost. On this Memorial Day, our 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.520 thoughts are with our service men and women, as well 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.760 as the military families who have paid the ultimate sacrifice. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:29.840 Happy Memorial Day from the drink Champs family and his 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:35.960 Drinks Motherfucking Podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rappers, he's your boy, 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.080 he's a Miami hippop pioneer, one of his dj e 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.400 f N. Together they drink it up with some of 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:47.559 the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:53.720 yet number one source for drunk New Years Time for 0:00:53.960 --> 0:01:03.800 drink Champs Drink up on the Yet What Up? This 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.200 is d j e f FEN and we want to 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.160 thank everyone that's been supporting us. Although we haven't been 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.679 releasing episodes, I promise you we've been busy recording them. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.360 We're long overdue for some hangovers, so in the next 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.360 couple of weeks, prepared to take those drinks off the ice, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.640 fill up your cups, and get ready to make some 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.839 motherfucking noise as we'll be back with Tiger Bones shots, 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.640 which I'm not looking forward to drunk facts and weekly releases, 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.120 but in the meantime, to help celebrate this Memorial Day, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.560 we created a very special episode for the Drink Champs Army. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.760 In this episode, you'll hear classics stories of some of 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:43.280 the legendary artists we've lost, stories of Tupac, Biggie, Prodigy 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.320 and Prince, some of our favorite moments with the legendary 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.320 Combat Jack and John Singleton, maybe the rest in Peace. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.960 You'll hear stories told from some of your favorite artists 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.960 like DMX, Havoc of Mob Deep E forty Snoop Dogg, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.720 Top Quality, Uncle Luke, and more so on behalf of 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.040 Myself and Nori a k a. The Drink Champs. Much 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.800 love to the Drink Champs Army. We hope you enjoyed 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.400 the special Memorial Day episode. Let's just get right into it. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.519 We're gonna start with these classic Tupac stories and your 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.240 hats man queue that up. Motherfucker's let's make some motherfucking 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:22.440 nor let's go. Everybody was in the sale, his billboard 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.679 was cut out in the sale. He wasn't even on 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.040 there for or talked about being on Therefore, we just 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:31.440 did that as a symbolar representing him and fucking with 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.440 him because he was my friend. So that was, you know, 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.079 a play that I did to put him in there 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.160 to represent it. Wait, so you're saying he was your 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:46.200 friends saying I'm the reason why he was on that phone. Yeah, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.520 that he was my friend and my thing was speaking 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.520 with Sugar because after he had got shot, I had 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.960 flew to New York like the next day, and it 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.760 was like ship was going bad for him and he 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.680 had got locked up, and I was, man, should we 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.839 need to put that nigga with us? Because how far 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:07.080 back is y'all? Spencer Uh Poetic Justice Rap Party was 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.800 the first night I met him, and then we became friends. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:16.640 And actually MC breed Rest in Peace was was trying 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.200 to buy some dope and I knew the nigga. That 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.760 knew the nigga, So Breede got some dope for me 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.639 and DC and Breede was cool and Tupac and that's 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.160 how we all became like a circle of friends. Crazy 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.919 believe it, this is crazy. Ain't gonna lie. I ain't 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.480 gonna lie. I got so so a hip hop mode 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.160 fans just now. I was just saying, I'm a guy. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:38.960 I was I was supposed to ask a question at 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.200 this point, Like I was just sitting there like I'm 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:45.840 just thinking, like so um, all right, boom that Pop 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.200 comes here, He's already there, y'all already doing what he's doing. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.520 These these records come out, these records, these records. Let 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.880 me tell you this, so you know, all lives on me. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.400 When he gets out, I'm working on the dog Fothering. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.800 So when he get out, my cousin Dads is like 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.840 my number one supply because Drake dre basically like not 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.200 really giving up music because I think he on his 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:18.760 way out, but we already going thanks for doing in 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.760 the bathroom. So so we're working on my record. So 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.320 when he get out, naturally, I tell Dad's in the 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.359 whole crew pod getting out, y'all throw cuzz all of 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.160 the music, get him right first. So he ended up 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.000 getting all this hot music because we was in the 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.120 process of doing Hot Ship. And then Pop brought a 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.839 spirit to the studio that was different than anybody we 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.000 ever worked with. He had a work spirit that was 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.360 like this nigga could be in three different rooms at 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.720 one time and making music and he would he would 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.799 never listen to it. Like we was always we would 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.719 we learned this from Dr Dre. We would make a song, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.680 we would listen to that motherfucker for a whole month. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.599 I mean just back to back, thirty days just listening 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.360 to the same goddamn song, party and inviting bitches over 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.479 off the sun had even about yeah and then never 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.240 come out. Nigga. Tupac was like, Nigga, when we make 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.359 a song, when we finish it, when you're listening to 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.479 that ship, pull another beat up. We're doing another motherfucking song. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.760 You can mix that motherfucking when you finished, we'll listen 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.719 to it. He was never about like even when we 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.840 made one song, motherfucker the last verse, I'd be like, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.880 all right, playing bad. We played it down from top 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.320 to bottom. As soon as that motherfucker cut off, all right, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.360 give it to the engineer, pull the next beat up. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.960 Never did we listen to a song twice with that nigga. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.279 That's something that I learned from him that I take 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.159 with me today because I wasn't like that. I was. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.000 I learned from Dr Dre. I learned from my teacher. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:44.680 They taught me exactly. But Pop was on something like 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.920 Nigga fun that we're going, We're going, We're going, We're going. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.640 How are you thinking? They made three albums and motherfucking 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.479 ship six months. That's Gemini, by the way, that's geminism, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:59.960 a Gemini. But I'm a labor all right, what's all? 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.840 We can know yourself, virgo, I'm a virgo. I don't 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.040 know if it means anything for this makes a noise 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:13.200 for the sign that snoop listening, listen Snoop. I can't. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.400 I can't thank you so much. We're gonna, we gotta, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.000 we gotta go the ball. I'm not telling all actually 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.680 do what I want to a mid interview. I just 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.760 want to thank you because you know what, it's the 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.160 first time artists like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.360 you know it's running media right now, like right now 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.360 we are running in DJ and DJ. I'm sorry when 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.160 I say I represent the motherfucking DJ. That's right, that's right. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.360 You always gotta have a meskin around you. You listen, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.839 everybody's from l A. You always. I'm from l A too. Yeah, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:50.880 sound it's same ship. I'm originally say you always gotta 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.080 kid and you know what, Pete Allas Dodge and the 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.520 motherfucker you know what I'm saying, and it's the first 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.719 time you know, you know we got you got g 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.760 G in Yeah, So now do you I'm alway g 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.560 g M when you're not there because we're gonna be 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.440 in l A August Can I co host GM? Can 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.080 we yes? Well cold because we're gonna be in the 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:17.040 l A August twenty seven? So she don't do that. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:23.600 She's a movie star. Bitch ry pockets on that front. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.080 There he out so the bitches in hooplat because everybody 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.480 wants to meet my nigger. You understand me, and you 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.360 know I ain't no motherfucking hater. I don't know how 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.400 to block I get out the white. So the bitch 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.760 like you understand me, I would love to meet tupocket. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.520 That's all right with you. I'm like, bit just gonna 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.920 always be all right? Now what were okay? Can listen? 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.160 All the stars is at So now one night I'm 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.880 in the club and uh, the bitch is there, and 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.240 POX see the bit She like, man, I don't want 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.080 to meet that bitch. Man, I say, hey, man, that's 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:03.320 exactly how he described the bitch. That's my bit. I'll 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:08.760 kindly introduce you to I walks over to him right 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:14.880 and say, bitch, this is a Tupac Tupac meet the bit. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.960 So you know, after he meets a bit, you know, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.840 I walks off because you know, it ain't my job 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.760 to stand there and see if they're gonna talk and 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.920 kiss or whatnot, not take a biture. I walks off 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.240 like a real player. I guess the exchange numbers. I 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.480 don't know, so you haven't stand me. A few weeks later, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.240 I'm trying to, you know, slide by and go see her, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.680 because you know, she's a slide piece to me. So 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.400 I'm trying to go see it on a late night 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.520 like I normally do. You don't leave that back door 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:49.360 open and I'm like, what what's in it? I'm finished 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.960 slide through, you know what I'm saying. Lead that back 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.080 there's open, and the bitch hit me with I don't 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:05.120 think Pap would like that. This girl was BA for 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.880 the record, right for the record. This girl we told 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:16.680 about for real? That's what the bit for real? Madonna? 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.480 Now that was Hey, that was Madonna. That look the 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:26.520 nigga nigga that is. You don't think I'm making this 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.480 ship up. I'm doing Saturday night lod in New York, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.600 they get documented nigga. When I had that Tommy hell 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:37.280 figure shirt on the red, white and blue one, blew 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.640 the motherfuck up. The shirt sold like a motherfucker right. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.880 So the nigga pot come and see me here in 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.240 New York. He bring me some weed and he come 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:52.360 backstage with the bitch Madonna Madonna for real, for real, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:57.880 about to feel like was he man? He brought the 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.679 bitch just Saturday night. He d he was knocking the 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.800 bitch man because he brought me some blood. Man, he 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.040 had the bitch on his own. Man, and he wasn't 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.240 even like floss from the bitch. He had him right here. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.319 Tupac and Big Daddy came other way around. Tupac hand Madonna, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:27.080 man cut down. This is this is this is the 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:33.439 park in the So how did you feel a lot 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.240 of people when when park passed and then you came 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.240 to the scene, A lot of compared the compares. Then 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.040 when he got no, they compared, how did you feels 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.600 to that comparison? Some people get a fire. I should 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.240 correct people as plainly as it could, Like the next part, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.839 I'm like no, I'm the first ax. They would say 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.040 that great great say Thatt say that you know the 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.080 next like no, I'm not the next anything, I'm the 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.319 first and then and and it's pretty good. Um. Um. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:08.200 Actually had a chance to see Pop walking. He said that, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.079 Oh my god mine so on Hamm and Hamm and 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.920 Hammon way off sunset and l that hotel look good 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.160 And I saw him. It was a cool dude. He 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:28.760 is cool. I said six, Oh wow, wow, you met 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:36.800 real pop. Yeah right now, maybe you happy everybody dray 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:42.360 boarders out there. Um he walked past. I see him. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.680 My man said, what up? What up? What up? Cool dude? 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.679 You know? But I think I think I don't know 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:55.400 what and and and and and and speaking as favorably 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:56.959 as I can be, said one who was past. So 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.800 someone who can't defend himself, I think, um, part of 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.959 the problem, a big part of the problem was he 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.559 didn't have what New York niggas got like uh uh 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.200 from the office is my black bam. He had no one, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.600 He didn't have his crew. So one thing, you, yord nigga, 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.120 I know for factors, you don't go to Cali and 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.800 live there without like like having the goosepout like oh me, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.840 you could be the hardest thing in the world. But dude, 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.640 don't go way over there without no one ever knew 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.440 where he was from, where you from, with no avenue 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:41.280 him from Oakland. He lived in Oakland, we lived. 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I mean, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.760 he say, folty man Pop, want me to give you 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.160 someumbing you want to funk what you may gave me? 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.280 His number were connected there since then it was it 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.640 was all love so um, y'all connected, and then like 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.000 how many records y'all did they go? Let's see, Um, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.200 I got I got an unreleased track that ain't that 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.240 we're working on right now. And then um we did 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.960 working on. You're still talking to him? Um, yeah, yeah, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:31.000 I was saying, that's that we're working on now. I'm 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.880 like I was talking, you know, because people still drinking 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.760 a lot. He was really don't hit me the other day. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.440 He was a lot man. But I don't say he 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.680 should appear Standford the Suckers ship, that's right, now make it. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.480 What's the south of water? What's the south of water that? 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.600 What's the south of water? You don't need that that 0:15:55.080 --> 0:16:00.720 you drink this beer, you don't need that. So yeah, yeah, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.960 we called it mad Records together and we asked Uncle 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.680 Luke this, I think we asked Snoop this, um, But 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.160 what was the park that you you you enjoyed more 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.520 the pot? And Luke had an interesting take on rolling 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:19.760 Hennessey drinking. But that before he was the same with 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.120 me at every time. You know what I'm saying. You 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.600 know what I'm saying. It was all love. Man. If 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.320 he funk with you, he fucked with you. If you 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.440 don't funk with you, he'd call you out here, say 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.800 your name and anything. That's what That's what he specialized in. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.080 He going, he say funk that I'm saying names, ain't 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.680 none of that. Yes me this and ship you feel me? 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:38.280 So I had to give it to him on that. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:39.720 But he had a reason for all the ship he 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.120 you know he was he was saying, he wasn't crazy. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:46.240 He wasn't crazy. Brilliant. So what's your favorite, tuopoc? Maybe 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.840 you tell me your favorite your favorite time being around? 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.800 I got a few, but I know you'll probably see 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:56.040 it on on YouTube. In nine three, we had my 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.720 practice looking hard video shoot and Het there through the 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.880 whole video like this, you know, just you know, you know, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:08.439 he had that middle aude fuck you. But the thing 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.960 isn't that he showed motherfucker's how this one blunts wasn't 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.200 really y'all have been fucking with blunt New York, you know, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.280 because my partner from New Jersey, when I was at 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.960 Grandma State University night to Fall eight, six eighty seven, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.520 he uh, this motherfucker take a Philly blunt, and the 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.520 way he did it it was it was the full blunt, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.080 you know what I'm saying. And he had gout it. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.440 He had just take all the ship out of it 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.320 and then stuff it with some booble weed, right just 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.159 because that's all we had at Graham some booble with 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.320 stuff that motherfucking and and tie the end up like that, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.880 you know what I mean, win it up, and that's 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.080 how they did it. Back that that was the That's 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.600 the first time I've seen a blunt roll so pop, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.639 you know what I'm saying here on and my video shooting, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.600 he's sitting on the little bench. We I'm over there 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.000 smoking a beating. I don't know if y'all know what 0:17:51.960 --> 0:18:03.520 sot A lot of balls back here over the world. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:08.040 He he got, I'm Strong is doing this bad Boy mixtape. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.440 Remember you remember it was the Bad Boys. I don't remember. Yeah, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.159 this is what this, this is what is originally for. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.720 So so it was a freestyle in a sense and 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.879 in the sense it was a freestyle. So um. That 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.919 day a dude named Chaz from my hood. I remember 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.000 he was the flying snigger from my hood. But he 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.800 was the craziest snigger. Right. So, so chads this outside 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.320 like he confused. He playing me New York, New York. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.639 He's like, yo, you think they're this on us? So 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.919 I'm like, I don't know. I go to Queensbridge right 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.520 to meet up. We happened to, you know, be there 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.800 and stretch on. Strong calls and says, let's come to 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.000 the studio. So you had I think you had the 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.120 Turkquoise blazer. Yes I did. Yeah, I read a little 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.720 good the Turkoise blazes that that that the listen just 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.920 in case y'all thinking about blazer out back then, A 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:08.800 blazer was like a memory. I can't tell you what 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.480 happened yesterday, but I can tell you. Come up. I 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.280 remember this. So everybody we met at stretched on Strong's 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:21.479 crib and um, I think back then, having had already 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.879 gave us beat, but we ain't put nothing now but 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.280 the originals on the original Dog Pound beat. So this 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:31.000 is what happened, I stretched, Black. Yeah, I think we 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.119 had already did so what no no, no, no no 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.720 no no. So what happened is this is l A 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.280 l A. So what happened? Um, stretch, I said, the stretch? Yo. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.879 I remember Chas had just played me this, so I 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.240 asked him he was on something called a DJ list 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.240 back then, back in the days, you could send somebody 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.880 a record and two months in advance and your ship 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.720 wouldn't be bootlegs. You know what I'm saying, Because if 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.240 he was on a DJ list, it was just so 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.479 I asked Stressed to pull it up. We heard New 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.439 York when we couldn't determine if they were dissing us 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.840 or not, So technically we didn't dis them. We just rhymed. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:16.200 Correct the video I always always, but I remember it 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.440 was Prodigies verse. They took it because he said, Um, 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.600 he said JFK on our way to l A M 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.879 M and remember remember, and then he used that on 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.680 y'all album later, But the original L A L A 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.280 were all five of us. Prodigy said, n y C, 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.920 you and our verse supremacy, Havoc and pret queens Nigga, 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.240 so it's seemed to be Mega got word back from Noriega. 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.200 And that was on original L A l A. Oh, 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.320 I'm gonna break it down. He did that on right, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.760 hold on, hold on somewhere else. No, it versus somewhere else, 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.159 but it was originally on L A l A. He 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:02.560 took it off. And when he took it off, we 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.680 remember we're calling Steve Riffis. Steve looking was like, no, 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.840 he doesn't want to be a part of this. Yeah, 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.560 you didn't. You didn't even make a noise to happen. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.920 Who I didn't You stayed a part of yah makes 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:19.560 a noise to happen? Say it. But from what I heard, now, 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.959 I never heard this from Prodigy or or Steve Rifkin myself, 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.720 but from what I heard, Steve Riffers said, Prodigy, you 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.200 didn't want to do it. And then the first came 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.440 off the week that the day that we shot the 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.800 video is the day it came out, and you was 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.160 only supposed to come to the video, and then Prodigy 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.520 showed that he was there. He was in the video. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.600 That's right, that's right because it was it was so 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.000 he did his first in the video. No, no, it 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.000 was like he was just like l A l A 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:50.000 big city. Yeah right, but you're saying it wasn't a 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.920 distract who said that? No? No, But then because that 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.520 intro was this no yeah yeah yeah that that was replaced. 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.200 But but we heard it. We all heard it. But 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.440 then that sound like live nigga rack, that was it. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.800 Then he that's when he used that person. That's when 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:09.679 he used that person. But originally and then here's my question, 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.520 is Tupac came at y'all you know this is my record? 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:18.440 Did you have at one point when it's be like yeah, 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.320 that's question. But I didn't give a fuck because I 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.159 was like, because what did you do? Um? What was 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.720 the record? I loved the racket. It just dropped it 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.200 too late when you went back and dropped the gym on. 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:37.560 Yeah yeah, but I didn't kid because I was like, Yo, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.200 this nigga. Tupac then from Juice, you know, what I'm saying, 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.840 like saying that name. So I was like, fuck, like, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.000 who gives the fuck? You know what I'm saying, Because 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:51.080 we got like a hundred queensman, well fucking kill you. 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:58.239 But I love But did you did you realize how 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.720 beef that I mean, how big that it was? Like 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.080 like it was, it was huge, Like for Tupac to 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.800 dis you, it's like you you go platinum or something like, 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.600 I'm keeping it real. That's how I think was it 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:15.040 was the original, but I wanted to everything. I was 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:24.320 like you, But then I thought about I said, I 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.320 was super broke at that moment, so I couldn't have 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.760 thought no Tupac beaf, but they came. It's a fact 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.440 one nigga. Like at one point on one arm, I 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.840 was mad that he just then other arm, I was like, 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.400 holy ship, I white my sweat, but y'all went back. 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.200 I didn't give him, you didn't give drop with gym, 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.280 and we did drop a gym on it because I 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.760 because I always thought that like, even if we did 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.159 see each other, it was gonna be like whatever, it 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.000 wasn't gonna be the real ship, you know what I mean. 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.320 We come from the hood, so the real ship is 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:02.159 in the hood and these other niggas is rapids. You know, 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.600 this is real ship right there. It's real ship. You know. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.000 The fans and the people wanted to notice l A story. 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.600 This is dope. Like when you my radio when the 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.840 l A l A Ship was out. Believe me, we 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.040 was going to l A under aliases, like when we 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:23.360 couldn't just because Biggie got killed. Remember this time, that's 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.280 true this time. What's the chronological order of that? Though? 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.040 So when L A A came out? What years after 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:34.800 ninety six? Right, and Biggie had died? When ninety six? No, no, 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:43.879 not Google Google because the record because diverse Biggie. No, no, no, 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.919 we need the Google. So this is way before Big Been, 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:51.639 Biggie and Pop die right, Yeah, Big for sure was 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:56.240 the ninety seven alright six months later. Yeah, so there's 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.280 still ninety seven. But still what you said you went 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.360 alias names. All I know is I remember like when 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.280 all of that, when all of that stuff was going down, 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.680 it was the East Coast, West Coast beach. Somebody probably 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.879 didn't even die yet, you understand what I'm saying. So 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:18.000 when they did die, you understand, it was like, Okay, 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:24.480 bulletproof cause names under alias is. But California is a 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.760 market that you have to be in just sell records. 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.280 It's like a huge market and it's one of our 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.080 number one markets to this day. You understand what I'm saying, 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.199 and I'm sure you can agree. I love California. I'm 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.080 out there, I got it. I got a crib about this. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.720 It's like, you know, make some noise for havoc flaws. 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.760 Having your old storm, nick, I just teach you. You 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.359 have it rolled up in a yellow cab. Let's make 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:56.320 some noise for that nigga. You gotta that's some old 0:25:56.359 --> 0:26:00.520 school because because because my Uber account was compromised the 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:04.120 way you know, so when I used my Uba, somebody knows. 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.200 You have to explain this because I want to watch 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.040 out for this. I don't even want to explain it. 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.360 But somebody knows. I'm using computers one day. One time 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.440 you got tapped, right, they said that you said ship 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.040 like you're not good with computers. You need to keep 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:29.440 the original. That's that's a segue, like you ain't sing up. Yeah, yeah, 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.560 what's those messages true? Like let's just keep it real. 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.240 That's just don't matter. If you seen the messages I 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:40.000 send the compone ship. It's so good. It's the same ship. 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.240 It might not you went a little too far. I 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.159 did call them a fact and all that you were 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.159 a little too far. Don't come down there with the 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.280 shoot heavy dal with there was a shoot, was heavy. 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.240 He was involved like he he wasn't shooting, but he was. 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.920 Now in your opinion, you both knowing Pocket and Big, 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.280 there's very few people who know Pocket and Big. There's 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.560 people who know Pop great, and of people who know 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.840 Big a little bit, people who know Big a lot, 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.119 people who know Pop a little bit. But you know 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.879 them both for them, do you think they could have 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:13.240 ever squashed that? Like yeah, I mean on the People 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.959 Show when Pop got out of jail, I Pop, then 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.880 I would an interview Biggie, and then through the interviewing 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.920 process of it, it was more like I was interviewing them, 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.720 but I was like Nigga chilling funk out, you know. 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.280 So it was more of me having a conversation with 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:34.200 them about chilling fun out. You too, Motherucker's need to 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.760 make money. This ship is about money, y'all taking this 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.200 too to the extreme, because you know, I was in St. 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.520 Louis doing a show with Big and Big out there. 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.639 You know, motherfucker's they wanted did this Pop on stage 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:52.159 and they were boring. You know, I'm I'm sitting up 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.920 there like you know, I'm like, okay, you know the 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.760 mediator and the whole ship, like and Big when this 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.840 so then I when I interviewed, uh when when I 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.960 interviewed pop Pop was just going crazy, you know, oh yeah, 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.240 yeah yeah, this girl and did this and and then 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.439 that and all this, And I'm like, so when interview 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:12.879 over there looking at man, you need to chill the 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.200 funk out, you know what I'm saying. You know, so 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.639 many of them had you know, we could talk because 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.800 I know him before he linked up with you know, 0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:22.720 with the Death Row dudes. I know him when he 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.159 was with did you Don't Underground? You know? So I 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.760 know this young dude, he you know, on something black 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.360 power ship. You know, I know where he's coming from. 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.119 So you know, you ain't on what you you know, 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.280 I'm like, what you change? What are you doing? You 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:37.800 know what I'm saying? You're you on that, you know, 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.680 on that black man ship with you, which is I 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.200 know how that's how you raised. You're always on that. 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.040 You don't know do nothing other black man. So you know, 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.440 we had that conversation and you know, I want to 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:53.040 go in interview Biggie Big Ones say one word about it? Yeah, 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.920 Big One, you talk big you know Big Ones say nothing. 0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.720 It was like nine nine, you know, he just kept 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.840 it like, uh, Kevin, like really one hundred. So it 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.320 was it was they were they were gonna talk, you 0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.760 know after me. If I had the conversation with both 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.080 of them, you know, they were gonna talk. But then 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:17.400 for some reason, you knew Pop pre Death Roll, Yeah, 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:27.760 and then what's that after? Right? Well? Which which park 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.720 you related to more? The park before before Death Roll Underground. 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:37.000 It's all like it's almost like two different people totally 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.000 to different people totally. Man, I can relate. I'm a Gemini, 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:45.640 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's almost like, uh, you know, 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.240 young dude, you know, hanging out with a cooler people, 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.360 then you conform into that crew. You know. That's why always, 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.520 you know, when I'm working with kids, I tell kids, 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.720 don't be no following. You know, in the back of 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.880 my mind, I'm thinking about, you know, them soldiers who 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.360 like pop. You know what I'm saying, You gotta be 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.840 your old man. You can't get caught up in you know, 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.200 the ship somebody else trying to do. You think Pop 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.160 was following though in that sense you do, you don't 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:10.640 think I think he had a plan to get out 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.080 of that situation or change the trajectory of what he 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.920 was trying to do. That's what everybody, well, when you 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.680 when you when you when you want some real black 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.440 man ship, like better got a baby, and then you 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.680 go overhead, not not not exactly bring. I mean he 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.400 was deep. He was deep. He was on some real 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.560 black man ship, you know, black power black like this. 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.600 He was on some deep black man And then so 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.640 now you get linked up with this crew on that 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.240 on some different ship, then you conformed to be like that. 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:48.080 You feel me? So I knew him before that. You know, 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:49.960 there's this young man. We're just trying to get on, 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.000 trying to get this music here, trying to do the 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.120 right thing. I'm on some black man ship. He was more, 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.720 he was more deeper than then public Enemy then public Enemy, 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.520 that black man ship. So then I when you go 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.680 and you linked with this crew here, then you kind 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.480 of conformed to that. And then now you got whole 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.200 crew of and you had already had beef for death Roll, 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.960 so you knew what type of mind sticky. Yeah it was, 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.120 you know it was you know, it was like on 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.240 some you know, we tough guyship. So then now you 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:24.560 got this young guy that's really you know, just searching 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.200 for a family. You bring me in and before you 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.840 know it, he conformed into you know, it's like, uh, 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.120 become a product of your environment. So he became a 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:45.960 product of that environment before we moved on to that. 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:51.520 You ever hung out with Pun as well? Yeah? Yeah, 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.080 how was how was it hanging out Pun? Fun? Pun 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.280 and Joe? I remember, you know when I first met Joe. 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.240 You know, I went to the went to the fucking 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:07.600 club and uh the Puerto Rican club story, let's get it. 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.760 So I go to club, hang out with Joe Bunton, 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.440 Joe beat the ship out of some club like this 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:21.240 motherfucker is so up. Some motherfucker like what the fund 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.240 is this? Right? But but after that, I mean we 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.880 end up doing something together and uh and some of 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.440 the other guys in the group. Next up is from 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.560 episode eighty six of Drink Champs. We sat down with 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.760 the legendary film director John Singleton and man, what can 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:42.320 I say, you know, it's it really hurt to to 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.760 you know, to see John go, you know, and I'm 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.080 just really happy that that we had a chance to 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.360 sit down with him. You know. It's it's never a 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.360 good thing when when you know people leave, you know, 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.320 it seems before their time. And just felt like John 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.479 had a lot of things left to do. So it's uh, 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:04.520 very unfortunate, and our condolences to his entire family and 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.120 close friends. But we're grateful that we got the opportunity 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.840 to sit down on him, really humble guy for everything 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.400 he had accomplished. So in case you missed it, checkout 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.480 episode eighty six with our guests John Singleton. Um. But 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:23.040 here's some moments from it. You're so rich man, here 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:24.760 we're here, you got yachts and all type of things, 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.400 and you know what, you're humble god, but almost I'm 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:34.880 a brag brag for brag for you man, you know 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.520 what I mean. We want to listen. I don't know 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.400 if you know what our show was about. Giving all 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.920 legends flowers when they can smell them, and treats when 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.400 they get held them because our our society so much 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.240 praise as a person after they die and I feel 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.040 like that is so backwards. Yeah you should. I should 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:52.920 be able to tell you how much I appreciate you 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.320 right here, face to face man and man, as opposed 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.320 to waiting for you to pass away and then be like, yeah, 0:33:58.360 --> 0:33:59.880 he's a great guy. I mean and him party they 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.000 in the back of the day. I should say that now, 0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.480 like you know what I'm saying. Like, And I actually 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.640 learned that through Dave Chappelle, you know, when the way 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.360 it was print and it was like he started praising 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.040 Prince while Prince was alive. And it's just like, that's 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.080 what we got to continue to do. And that's not 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.879 just as a culture, that's as as people, like as 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.920 human human beings. As human beings, we gotta start praising 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.799 our people where they're here. So with that being said, 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:28.200 I wasn't working with Janet Jackson penny. You know, come on, 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.480 it's beautiful. It was jerked off the penny a lot. 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.360 Throw that out there. It was good. I don't know 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.840 if that's serious, the whole age thing. No, that was 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.560 not serious. That was a joke that we was having 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.560 on the set. Because the real talk is Tupac was 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:49.000 attracted Dejane. I was attracted Jana the world. We're in 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:53.400 the set, we're both trying to like, you know, floodwater 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.759 and stuff, and I'm like, you know what, I don't 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.759 know if you know, I should have you kissing on 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.760 my actress because you know, you know, and fucking around 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.120 doing all this ship. You know, Pope was just coming 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.279 to his own then, right and I was like, man, 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:07.560 I was like, yeah, you know what, You're gonna have 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.359 to do an as test for y'all, do this left scene. 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:13.120 It was a joke, but he said, no, it's you know, 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.760 it's me saw not my nigger on the sun right before, 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.040 just like talking ship and then we're like, oh, ship, 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.600 we should we should we should use this, we should 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.640 put this out. And so that's what we did as 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.759 a publicity thing. As a publicity thing, we just did that. 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:32.080 But it's just like us talking. We got Jackson, but 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.840 it was just us talking on the ship on the 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.600 set and everything and this, and you know it was 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.479 an inside joke. That's when it works. Now, not only 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.640 did you get to work with Janet Jackson, if you 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.560 got to work with the big man Mike Jackson, did 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:47.080 he have a glove one when you met him? No, 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.120 he didn't have a guy. He's where he wore the 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.400 old fun I got a lot and he didn't. He 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.840 didn't's a crazy because in his in his problem was 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.759 you see it Michael on on camera and suff he 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.520 didn't talk the way that he talks, you know, and 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.480 he said that Mike, Mike was a nigger, like Mike 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.239 was like different, different and every tone and everything that 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.400 I'm just saying that just that was an expectation that 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.320 he put on for the cameras. He didn't he wouldn't 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:16.680 talk about it. He was just a brother. He was 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.440 different to every different to me and everything. It's just like, 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.920 you know, he's just like hey, you know. And he 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.520 was really despite what he you know, he ended up 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:28.239 doing to his face and his skin got lighter and everything. 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.600 He was a real brother man. He was really about 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:35.200 black people because I heard that video. He actually that 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:39.239 was after Magic actually announced and he wanted to do 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.839 something and Mike wanted Mike wanted Magic in the video. 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:44.480 He said, you know, cal him Magic, Let's get him 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.680 in the video. Remember the time, remember time. I hate 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:54.440 that ship in my head, right, I ain't gonna lie. 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.800 I couldn't have met Michael Jackson. I would like I 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.640 would have gave him. I would gave him a file 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:04.400 too hard. Who oh not? U gave us the crazy 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.520 Michael Jackson s. But so how was it? Was he 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.920 a pure genius? Like was he everything? He was? His 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.440 damn near genius? I mean dann mal genius. I mean 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.120 like you know the things that that uh that he 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.440 did and that he uh and that he wanted to 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.160 do and stuff, you know, like unprecedented in this business. 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:31.399 You know, have you ever been U starstruck? Yeah? Who who? 0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.399 You stought? I gotta hear this. I mean, I'm only 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.640 bet star shot two times in my whole career. I 0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.759 need to hear both. Let's go for it. The first 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:43.719 was meeting Steven Spielberg because it's like, you know, as 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.120 a kid going up, you know, like he was, you know, 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.960 the the young person that went on to make movies 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.480 at an early age, and I wanted to be like that, 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.000 Um just nervous, and you know I saw him and 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.600 that as soon as I saw him and we met 0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.520 just it was like it was like, um, you know, 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.120 it was it was as great. You know, it's like 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:10.320 the godfather of filmmaking, of filmmaking, the second was what 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:16.560 your prior, yea Richard Pribord, remember prior at the comedy store. 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.480 I was, I used to hang out the comed store. 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.120 As soon as you say you met Richard prior, I 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.360 thought the comedy store and so uh And it's funny 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.640 because Richard probably was hanging out with Opportina Comedy Club 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.799 was Hollywood, are you here this with a Patine Richard 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:38.400 with Opportunito And I can't even love that dope, And 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.359 I'm like, let's throw that out there. I don't even 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.520 look at Opportune. I'm looking at much private. But Richard 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.279 used to have this do that work for him. Um. 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:50.480 It came over to me, um and and he said, uh, 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.160 you know, uh, Richard would like to say hello to you. 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.279 And I walked across from him, and Richard was kind 0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.239 of frail here. The ms was getting them, but it 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.279 wasn't as bad. He wasn't wheelchah, it wasn't built. And 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.400 he just said, uh, uh you know the young man 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:06.880 that made that movie because boys in the Hood just 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.000 came out. And I said, yes, sir, I am. And 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.160 mind you because you're like me. You listen to every 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:22.640 rich pri Mama had since birth. Curse he said, are 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.200 you the man amant the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah, 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.840 and he goes against me a hut n. I just 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.320 cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.160 this is a man. And then after that we became friends. 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:35.759 I used to go up to his house and said, 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.640 he'd be sitting up in the bed. You have a 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.440 gun right by the side of his bad. This is 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:45.080 mother got guns right next to and every comedian, Wayne's brothers, 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.480 whoever it was, he pulled guns out. No, no other 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.239 people will come through. They come through every day to 0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:57.480 pay homaged Richard. We hope you're enjoying the special Memorial 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.200 Day episode of Drink Champs as we pay re BacT 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.440 in homage and immoralized the life of these legendary artists. 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.399 Up next. I mean, there's not much that that can 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.279 be said that has it that isn't always said and 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:13.360 and and just known about Biggie Smalls a K. The 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.719 notorious b I g Um Big is just, you know, 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.000 just bigger than life. He He's just one of those 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:24.160 iconic figures in hip hop and you can't even just 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.840 begin to imagine what he would have accomplished if he 0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.239 would still be here with us and what he could 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:33.680 have done. Unfortunately, again an untimely death for such a 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.360 great hip hop artists, just a great artist in general, 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.440 but but for hip hop, it's just he was just 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:44.120 monumental and so so iconic. So uh. These next stories 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:49.440 come from Uncle Luke, E Forty, Puffy and Little Ces. 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.240 Listen as they share their notorious b I G stories. 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.840 You know, rest in peace, Biggie Smalls, Big Man, we 0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:00.320 love you man. Let's get into these stories. But he 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.600 was in a car accident. He was in the car accident, okay, 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.080 because you was like the drive I got heard Big 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.759 never drove, never drove, never drove his life. Okay, So 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.839 what happened he was we had got arrested um day 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.719 before that. Let's make some noise of little Season, Big Game. 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.120 We got arrested downtown Brooklyn or some bud and they 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.960 took our truck. When we got the truck back that 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.600 that Alexis. We got it back, the ship didn't work, 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.080 so they had to ship the ship to the car dealership. 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:29.480 We went to the next morning to pick up a loan. 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.080 This car. It was a luminum van. Yeah. We we 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:34.920 trade an Alexis car for a Lumino van and I 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.600 was like, I shouldn't we get Alexus like he was like, no, 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.200 I'm gonna ride low, Let's just take this drive. And 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.640 I jumped in that ship and were driving around this 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.640 little just still a fork and the ship just sped 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.880 out of control. I ran into a rail. How old 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.879 were you at that? About sixteen? He was already driving, 0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:02.160 had no else driving dirty? This? K Rose would answered, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.120 So that's what happened, and he funked up his leg. 0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.520 I had to get these gold fronts to a place, 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:09.719 two joints that was sucked up. That's why he had 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.960 to put down the rhyme. And uh time in the 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.759 radio station where he said that rhyme, was that the 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.400 first time you heard that rhyme? I heard the song? 0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:22.200 She already yeah, you already. I had to accept that 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:23.839 one though, you know what I mean. I took one 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:30.160 for the team, right so now also right, uh? I 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.160 wanted to ask this question. Um this this comes via 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:37.839 shot him read. I believe he said, what were big 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.200 his plans for the Commission album with Jay? Who else 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.440 was supposed to be in that group? What label was 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.000 supposed to be on? And who was supposed to be 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.719 in the commission. Commission he had no label idea for yet, 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.440 so he didn't know what label he's gonna do it on. 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.560 It probably gonna be on Undear that was his label. 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:54.879 He's probably gonna do it on that, depending on part 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.080 what Jay was gonna do. But the commission was me, 0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:06.560 Jay Z, Charlie Baltimore Big and No just don't play 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.640 like the boss of it, but tells his way of 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.200 like pushing Charlie out. He was gonna push Charlie through 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.120 the through the commission ships. So that's how he was 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.200 gonna break that down. I actually spoke to on the 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.600 other day and it was crazy because unset to me. 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.400 He said, you know, it's a crazy ship, Nori. Nobody's 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.480 never interviewed him about Big, like he was his business 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.759 part enough and people didn't this is so you know, 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:32.120 doing drink chance like he had to sit there and 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:33.520 just think about it, and it was like, Yo, you 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.799 know what, Nobody never really asks me about Big, because well, 0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:40.240 I guess what happened after Big, because Cam was supposed 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:46.759 to be signed to you guys, Yeah, because Cam was 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:59.719 actually BIG's artist and the poem Yes, yes, you gotta 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.400 tell the I'm taking too. I was so scared. I 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.000 was so scared of of Big because that's all I 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.439 listened to. That's all I was listened to with jail. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:08.959 So I seen him in from the Hot thirty seven 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.040 and he was like, yo, he asked something. He asked 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.040 to rhyme and that was schill but compone did rob 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.520 and he was like, yo, I'm making you junior Mafia 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.400 tomorrow words. And I was so hated. I was like 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:25.040 he was trying to he was trying to get the squad. 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.560 Now she was always yeah, she used to always put us, 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.359 put us on your you know what. The crazy ship 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:33.120 was um been Big been Big in the movie when 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.759 Big is making these last phone calls, the crazy ship 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.440 was Big had called me and he played me t 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.320 or and why And I was like, he called you. 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.840 He called me and was like be your favorite records. 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.160 One I'm working with this and at the top two 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:53.000 or was not I swow im figuring me Big And 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:54.840 I told he didn't put two and two together that 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:59.200 Now she was a bad way to do something. So 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.799 I didn't know, you're imagine that like getting that call 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.040 and I'm worried about my sea bootleg it's over me. 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:10.080 But so now see you didn't been your whole childhood, 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.120 so did you? Was he always the best wrapper alive? 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.399 Or you knew you knew he was? He was nice 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.879 back then. I just knew from the rip he was dope. 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.399 I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like, we didn't 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:22.520 think he was gonna be to the level of what 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.600 it is now or when he became even when he 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:26.319 was like when he was out, I mean, we didn't 0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:27.880 think it was that. But he was nice and it 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.680 was to come through the look difference between five years. 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.239 So he uh brother, Yeah, when he was twenty, I 0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.320 was fickteen years old, just running around. He took me 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:44.359 out the street since I was eleven, you know him, 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.080 since I was like five six years old and I 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.239 was in public school. She on street and then the 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.080 number five years, I was on that same strip trying 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.600 to hustle and do all that ship and he seen 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.040 that ship with me like that ain't just the funk 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.400 out of here now I'm gonna tak me. Took me 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.480 out of that that one. And you know what's funny, 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.800 A lot of people give jay Z credit for, like, 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.000 you know, putting like a lot of his friends on. 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:08.920 But a lot of people don't really realize that Big 0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.800 did that first from that camp camera on little cs 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:22.200 Charlie Baltimore, little kid want some ship. Um he got 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.879 carew chain and all that big he had the club 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.120 in Atlanta, he was doing checkob out there doing Big 0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.440 Ship and all that came from just be getting put on, 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.759 set up for all the pipelines for anybody to do. 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.600 What's that Stan from the beginning was like I'm gonna 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.640 get on. And then because then you had you had 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.680 that album. What's that album? That was like one of 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.919 the most slept on albums? Why do you think people 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.239 slept on that album? I just think Atlantic then push it. 0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:48.640 I don't think they push it the right way, you 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.040 know what I'm saying. And the money that we had 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.120 that they gave us, we used it wrong on expensive videos, 0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.480 dollars eight thousand dollar videos. And once you do that 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.239 first video don't work, they don't want to shoot no 0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.160 more videos. They're like, no, that's what happened. Another two weeks, 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.600 another month, ship don't move and they just kind of 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:04.880 just let it go, you know what I mean. But 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.360 as long as people liked it and accepted it, it 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.080 was cool with that. What I'm saying, I always wanted 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.279 to ask, like crush on you video? Right? That was 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.280 like the first time we've seen a female change wigs, 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:20.879 Like did you like she like? Like you like chance? 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.239 It's like was was was that's something that y'all was 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.520 like this is dope? Or was he? Because you know, 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.120 sometimes to be skeptic or something didn't work, you'd be like, yeah, 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.840 oh I knew it all along, but you know the 0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.839 stop like this is a risk us as little nigger 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.200 as we just sat around and just let that was. 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:39.000 That was Big getting Undershot, like to do the partnership 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:41.280 with unders and under one that was doing the ideas 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.120 for the videos. Did all our videos get money? Players? 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:47.239 Anthem much on you? We just we just did what 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.520 we're saying to do. Yeah, he directed all those videos. 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.040 That was that was That was his way in the business. 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.000 You know what I'm saying, experience nothing straight. Then it 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.319 came straight from the streets straight trapp and went from 0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.680 hustling and went behind the cambra and was like y'all 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.600 got some ideas and Big trusted them and all them 0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.239 ships just happened to pop and they and they rocked Fords. 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.800 We didn't say no. We just played opposition. Do you 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.400 want me to go? Go ahead? Go ahead? And just 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.640 so happened the ship actually the ship blew up what 0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.800 I'm saying, And that was just all within ups. That 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.440 was all the fam team. We was like big. We 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.000 was like big Guinea. We was his creation. He was 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:20.680 learning all that ship from Puff and I was like, no, 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:22.799 I ain't taking dreaming off here of the Puff. I mean, 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.359 it's gonna be my own thing. Let me see if 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.320 I couldn't learn without learned from him, and let me 0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:33.239 set everybody like why you didn't sound they try? Even 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.759 at that time he was trying to spread rumors like big, 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.319 but I always seem big cool. We've just always been 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.640 like a second family that you know. That was big, 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.239 That was bey ship, and I'm trying to be I 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.480 created us to a whole another pipe line. Everything he 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.640 learned from Puff, he kind of tested it with us 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:53.640 and the ship working. Goddamn, what do you think? What 0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.000 do you think be O's next move would have been? 0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:01.200 Like like because like because like he was one thinks monumental, 0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.000 So what was his next move would have been? Had 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.319 he he's been on His whole thing was the music. 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.160 That's ah, that nig was a fan of music. It's 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.200 just next thing was Kim and another Junior Mafia project. 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.560 You want to do the commission ship he was about. 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:14.320 He was gonna sign Cam he was, you know he was. 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:16.279 This ship was about music. He wanted to set up 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:17.880 his own their party. That was a big whole thing, 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.480 Like you want to give it a bunch of nice 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.120 niggers and put some ship together and just let it 0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.200 run from there. He wanted to do five albums and retire. 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.359 He's gonna write my albums after that. I'm gonna write 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:32.320 a bunch of Little Seeds albums. You gotta, you gotta relax. 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:34.360 He gotta real. He didn't mean my whole life was 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.640 easy for him to write for me, Like I got 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.279 built into being that ship. I didn't sit back. I 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.120 didn't want to be a rapper. I won ten years old, 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:42.000 eleven years old to my yall. I'm ready to spend, 0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:43.600 I'm ready to get busy. I love the music. I 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.640 love listening to it. You know that was my thing, 0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:47.759 But I never thought about rapping. It was just a 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:49.800 thing for him, Like all right, this little nigga, he 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:51.799 got the wave. He knows what to do. He can 0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:53.960 before you even knew what he told you, You're gonna 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:59.600 be ryn write your album right, all right? Cool? Say 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:01.680 no more? Yeah you want me to do? Because I 0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:03.680 was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff with him, 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.320 so we all do like colleges and ship like that, 0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:09.680 and he was watching that. Okay, the only thing I 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:11.600 need to do is just write him some rhymes. What 0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:13.959 I'm saying him, some little cool ass rhymes. You wanna 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.920 be this little cool kid with the knapsat Tommy hill 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:17.879 Finger did tell me, don't want on niggas be likely 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.239 just all all bit. That's why you was on the kid, 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:25.320 That's why the crush on you. That was my creation. 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:29.080 After that, my album suppos't been so straight, like wow, 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.560 Puppy Love. That was name my album, Puppy Love for 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:36.680 real cool A bunch of crushes from you. When he died, 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.000 I can't My whole ship was like the wonful world 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:41.480 of Season Leo. That would be with the King go 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.120 but ass, with the bitch's hands covered with me. That 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:45.759 was se the Leo ideal, Like all right, I did. 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.080 I need to make a different kind of approach to us. 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.080 How did you link with it? I mean, you know, 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.279 I brought him down to do a show. You know, 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.399 it was Super weekend and then you know he came. 0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:00.560 He was like, you know, him juling off, you know that. 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.640 They were like big was like, okay, man, I'm doing 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:07.920 your pat jam the big one. The second one was 0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:10.960 around the corner. He was like, man, I ain't gonna 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.160 do that, motherfucker. Let you come Because pat jam here 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:18.200 was what we call it was a Apolo South. They 0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:19.920 would go up in there and the artists would go 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.040 in there and they'll be looking like this at your ass. 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.600 You know, motherfucker, you better get to the song. You know, 0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:29.120 we really know. It was the hardest order the sound man. 0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.239 You have a dirty guy like who came out like 0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:40.240 the crowd. So was like, yeah, I ain't doing that, motherfucker. 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.320 Let you let you come up in there, and so 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.040 many him. You know, we ended up linking up that 0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.520 weekend and we was friends forever. I mean, he uh, 0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:53.719 he would tell me stories about you know, him him 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.680 being a big fan of Poison Clan. You know what 0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.520 I'm saying. He told me he was like, man, this 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:02.560 fucking JT Money. You know, I you know, before I 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:05.160 got into business, I got all his ship. So it 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.239 was like, damn, so you know what I'm looking at 0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:09.440 him like. He was like, nah, man, that was my dude. There, 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.879 that's my dude. And so wed him hit it off. 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.200 Every time you come down, I go to New York, 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.880 I would hang out with him and uh we end 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:18.800 up doing a record together and he wasn't there with 0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.360 he died in a right. I was in l A. 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:23.560 Actually I was in the studio doing I was supposed 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.560 to link up with him and me and uh me 0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:31.440 and Stoop was in the students think so yeah when 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.839 they ended up when they told us about him, did then? 0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:36.560 You know, we were sitting in the studio and I 0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:38.240 think he said on the Breakfast Club you were supposed 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.600 to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were supposed to 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:44.480 go to another party. It was at a party we 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.359 were recording, and uh, we were supposed to go link 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.560 up after it. God, God bless Big Man, God bless 0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:53.880 Jia Mafia. You know what I'm saying. Um, And did 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.719 you ever meet Tupac oh Park? Was? No, that was 0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.680 my guy. Let's break out some is some now? Is 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.840 the bitches involved? Part? Was that was another one of 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:13.040 my little son Let's make yeah part. Would Pop would 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.040 come down? You know you hang out? Prop was like 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:20.920 George Jepson get jumpson on the on the Jempson that 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:23.640 that motherfucker just sitting in the car and talk talk 0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.719 talk talk talk. I mean we would be on the 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:28.600 road together, we see each other. You would be in 0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.600 my room. I'm sitting there, land down and sleep. This 0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:36.080 motherfucker still talk got damn you know I heard every 0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.399 story there was that was part with my dude, that's 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.800 my nigger. That's so let me ask you, because it 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.680 had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you ran 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.880 Miami after especially all the termorial the beat said everybody 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:50.640 everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But now 0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:54.080 this East cost because the nigga's personalities was ill like 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:59.759 like like most fact niggers got good personalities. I think 0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:03.560 I would have been at centric social media work that 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:07.640 been terrorizing people. How was the How was the transition? 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.680 Because you knew pop, you knew Pop and Big when 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.160 they were cool, Like even in the movie, it's like 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.360 you see Big and you say yo yo, poppets in 0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.400 the joint and that was that was all love. Like, So, 0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:22.839 how was that to see that transition, because I mean 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:24.719 it was it was sucked up because they know Big 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:26.960 really had genuine love for him, and we all know 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.200 he had genuine love for Big two. Let me let 0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.439 me act. You know something, if something, if something wanted, 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.640 if something wanted to happen, it could have happened. What 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:35.440 I'm saying, nothing could have stopped that though we was 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:37.600 we were seeing each other in plenty places and if 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.719 something because it was so you're saying, well, whoa whoa, whoa, 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.919 whoa whoa You're saying, as these records is out, y'all 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:45.759 were seeing each other each other a few times and 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.719 the sole Train Awards when they could have happened at 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:52.919 that time if they wanted to, Like, yeah, situations happened before, 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:54.879 but it just never went there. And I just think 0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:56.399 he didn't He didn't really want that. I just think 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:58.200 he had a lot of people behind him pushing him, 0:54:58.280 --> 0:54:59.919 and it was vice versa. You know, you had people 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.440 are not here too because negative and us too, you 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.160 know what I'm saying. But they never would have did 0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.840 nothing to each other because genuinely he knew Big headlove 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:08.759 for you know, and Big New Ye had love for him, 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:10.239 he would he. I just think he was just going 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.600 with a situation. I mean, you got niggas that just 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:14.560 balls you out of jail, and you owe your loyal 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.719 teacher that he didn't do nothing wrong by that, you know, 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:21.040 I mean, and took you out of a situation beyond. 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.400 And they both died the same way. That ship is 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.560 like so crazy, like six months apart, the same kind 0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:30.919 of situation. The album's maca Velly Die all that ship 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:32.360 is just like a whole weird thing. And I was 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:33.799 just thinking it was just that just I was meant 0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:35.520 to beat dog. You can't change it. You can't like 0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:37.960 do the wood ifs. And it was just they both 0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.040 got caught up in a bad situation and they ain't 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:45.880 deserve the people. I always I always wish they had 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:47.839 passed it up, because I think that would have been 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:51.120 it was they was. I suppose they don't because we 0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.400 did a record together for case Lad called Very the 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.360 Hatchet I did with the Outlaws, and you know, it 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.160 took us fifteen years for us to sit down and 0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:59.319 talk about you know what I'm saying, Like we ain't 0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:00.640 like each other to fit teen years and none of 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:02.719 us stuff even met each other and knew each other none. 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:06.319 And one day we spoke to a female. One day, 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.640 I'm chalking to this chicken. She must have said my 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:10.560 name real loud and young. Know we heard of grabbed 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:14.440 the phone from her. Yo, who this real aggressive? And 0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:18.320 I'm just like this, see outlaws. I'm like, I heard you. 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:23.440 It was up outlaws. I heard you. What's good? And 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.400 we sat there. We talked for about two hours. We 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.239 got a chance to really speak on ship. He didn't 0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:28.920 know a lot of ship that was going on the outside. 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:32.239 I ain't know. And we spoke and then he came 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:33.759 to New York on damn. We got up and sat 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.520 down and kicked it. Then, my niggers to this day, 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.200 he said, Yo, when when Uh Pop was going to 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:40.120 Vegas before that, he was like, yo, when he come 0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:41.719 back from Vegas, he was gonna sell that ship with 0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.520 bit you know what I mean. So that ship was 0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.120 gonna get dead it you know, I mean eventually, you 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:47.440 know what I mean, it was gonna get squashed. He 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:48.920 really knew what happened. He knew what was going on. 0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:50.279 He knew Big didn't have nothing to do with that. 0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:51.560 He knew we didn't have nothing to do with that. 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:53.080 I just think he was just caught up in a 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:55.520 situation and vice versa two. His things that did when 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:57.480 he didn't change it was they were young. We don't 0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:59.480 really a lot of time young. They were dog like, 0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:03.840 you know, when his forties making this type of mistakes up. 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.040 We were kids. I look at it now because I'm 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.280 over thirty. I'm over thirty years old. I'm almost forty, 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:11.239 So I look at it. I look at it there like, damn, 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.160 these niggles actually babies. Dog we didn't ain't know no better. 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:19.920 And let me let me tell you something. When we 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.880 dropped l A l A, I stepped to Big and 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:24.440 I told him that, and he said, he said, yo, 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.480 I don't want to be um. I don't want that 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.280 record to come out because what they accusing me for Nori, 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.040 I ain't do so I gotta like he always knew 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.760 to take the high row like it was ill he was. 0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:36.800 He'll tell you like, no, dog, ain't ain't the way. 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:38.240 But you know, to each his own, you want to 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.480 do that, you don't do that. We couldn't stop him 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.080 from doing that, but we was loving them for doing it. 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:43.400 You know what I'm saying like then was like man, 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.320 we stepped up to the plate. But it's like, yo, 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:46.920 let's not well, we don't want to do that. We're 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:48.360 trying to get some money, you know, like you know 0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:50.320 that's how b our ship was. Don't we're trying to 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:51.960 get money. We ain't any ship for that. And if 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.480 you're gonna be beef, don't make it hot. You're gonna 0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.040 make it hot. You make it. You're gonna do some 0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:02.040 real ship. Don't responding your reaction to nothing. They ain't 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.240 say nothing. You don't know what's gonna happen when you say, 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.280 I ain't saying no response you bigger cut you off. 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.000 You're spawning anything you make a record, don't call me 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:13.200 no more, don't come to You're just done finish. We 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:16.960 don't do that now for the record, they the rumor 0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:22.080 is who shot you was recorded way before before that 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:26.200 as a vinyl like like, yeah, it didn't make sense 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.240 before any two that was supposed to be from Mary 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:34.200 j album. You feel me. I ain't know bragging none 0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:38.680 of that ship, But I don't know personally, we just 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:46.720 we just want to know. Yeah, he's probably be running 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:50.160 right now. Actually, but what happened though, like, um, he 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:52.720 came to the bay he wanted, he was in sacrament 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.560 I didn't even know you got him out, like y'all. No, no, no, 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.360 it was some people I knew, but I didn't know. 0:58:57.680 --> 0:58:59.240 I didn't even know the mother fuckers had him out 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:01.680 theory because they didn't promoted right or some ship. But 0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:03.520 they was. They hit me at eleven o'clock something like 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:05.240 that night. They were like, man, I got to first 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.640 of all the way, I didn't had nothing against him, 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.520 and I know Pok had issues because Park really knew him. 0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:12.280 I didn't know him like that, but he had gotten 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:14.800 because after the Park ship, the ship that had happened 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:21.320 at qual this was ship. This was what year was this? Man? 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.720 I don't know. I forgot man. But anyway you could 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:26.760 do you do them just as all that and ship anyway, 0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:30.480 So the thing is that, um, what do you do? 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.080 He awesome magazine. It was a magazine, the Canadian magazine. 0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:36.960 Dude had did interviews in and they said they said 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.880 they got him drunk, just like you. Motherfucker's got him 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:44.600 hell and they got a hell of drunk and start 0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.680 asking him on the scale from from one of ten, 0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:50.720 from you know, from one of the ten. Who do you? 0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:52.600 You know who you rate this? Like he said Spice 0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:55.600 ones and ice Q like everybody in the street. That 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.400 was somebody. And he got to my name and he's, 0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:01.480 oh man, that's he's big. He's whacked. Man. He got 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:04.920 he give him, give him a zero. You know I'm 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.760 talking about mind you I've been I was wearing Kangles 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:12.000 in high school. I'm almost forty nine years old, so 1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.640 I've been wearing Kangles. You know what I'm saying. All 1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:16.880 that ship just so happened that the dude had the 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:19.440 kind of same kind of swag I had, like you know, 1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:23.680 Kuji Kuji shirts, was sweaters, was in for Sasha. We 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:25.640 just you know, that was the ship when you were tycoon, 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:27.280 you're working with it, you know what I'm saying. He 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:28.480 was just on the West coast. He was on the 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:30.600 East coast. I'm on the West coast. So I don't 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:32.840 know if that's what had him saying saying the nigga zero, 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:36.480 But my my, my status unorthodox. So the motherfucker's that 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:39.479 think that can't catch it, they'd catch it later because 1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:42.200 I said a lot of ship that it ain't just slang. 1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:44.600 Just the ship. I say, you know what, it's kind 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:46.640 of ahead of his time. You know. Then they're like, 1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:48.920 oh man, because its fans that I had got right now, 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:51.400 that's die harsh. That didn't understand me, they said. When 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:53.320 I was younger, I just thought you was whacked. But 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:56.440 as I started listening more and more and living the 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.560 life that going through this then and thing, I'm like, 1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:02.160 my nigga, you the best fish, feel me. So to 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.400 make a long story short, man, so dude, um so, 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:07.640 everybody had got wind of the ship, you know what 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.520 I'm talking about, and that's what far as him dissing 1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:13.240 me in that magazine. So my little dudes they were 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:15.360 all hot and shipped too. So they just so happened 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.760 to sneak up the secramento you know I'm talking about. 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:19.400 They had, I guess to do. They threw the show. 1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:21.440 He was out there. They called me a Leavin something 1:01:21.480 --> 1:01:24.360 at night. What you want me to do with this nigga? Woo? 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:29.000 And um I told him, I put put the nick 1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.240 on the phone. You feel me like that? So they 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.040 put him on the phone and whatnot, and we chopped 1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:35.240 it up and he was like, man, fody you know, man, 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:37.480 look man, I was drunk. Man, But I funk what 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:39.800 you duke. You know what I'm saying A photo y'all 1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:43.320 heard the story before and all that. I'm so glad 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.160 nothing happened to him, you know what I mean. I 1:01:45.240 --> 1:01:48.200 didn't want that. I wouldn't even if I were to 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:51.280 see that, wouldn't tried to knock him down. It wasn't nothing, 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:52.960 and I seen him later on week. We chopped it 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:54.360 up by the fact I was supposed to be on 1:01:54.440 --> 1:02:00.840 this last album, Life After Death. If you go, if 1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:05.440 we if we find the actual physical copy back then 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:07.959 we did shoutouts. We shot out, We shout out people 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:09.960 things and go look in there and it's gonna say 1:02:10.000 --> 1:02:12.320 shout out to E forty. You feel what I'm saying, 1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:14.680 So that ship was done with man? You feel me 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:19.520 like that? Yeah, let's make some noise of that. You 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:23.200 know what. I actually to tell the truth A forty. 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:25.560 I actually never actually heard the story. I heard the 1:02:25.640 --> 1:02:28.960 rumor pieces of it. By the way, I didn't set 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:30.640 it up. I meant to say that I definitely had 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:33.320 that and that's on. That's on everything I love and 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:34.919 I don't like like that and I don't play with God. 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:38.120 They didn't set that up, but that's the rumor. The 1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:43.880 rumors always the one was a phony nigger that had 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:46.320 trying to claim that ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:48.440 I ain't gonna claim it. I ain't gonna act like 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:50.360 you know what I mean was he came to the 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:52.600 Bay Area, he couldn't leave, but he spoke to He 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:54.560 wasn't even the beat. He was in Sacramentico, which is 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:58.840 northern California. It's northern California. But it's not the bag killing. 1:02:59.880 --> 1:03:04.560 That's my that's my my, my mother in five Mexican home. 1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:11.640 I want to take time for my my brother Ali. Yo, 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:15.120 tell Ali get well soon. Man, Damn you're like you 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:19.320 killed him right now. Shout out to the uber homes 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:27.280 to Miami. When we dropped L A l A. I 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.640 stepped to Big and I told him that and he said, 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:31.640 he said, Yo, I don't want to be um. I 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:33.880 don't want that record to come out because what they 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.439 accusing me for Nori, I ain't do so. I gotta 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:39.120 like he always knew to take the high row like 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.200 it was ill like he was. He'll tell you like, no, 1:03:41.400 --> 1:03:43.240 dog ain't ain't the way. But you know, to each 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.160 his own, you want to do that you don't do that. 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:46.920 We couldn't stop him from doing that, but we was 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:48.400 loving him for doing it, you know what I'm saying 1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:49.800 Like that, he was like, man, we stepped up to 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:51.840 the plate. But it's like, yo, let's not well, we 1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:53.360 don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money, 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:55.400 you know, like you know that's how b our ship was. 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:56.840 Don't we're trying to get money. We ain't in this 1:03:56.880 --> 1:03:58.840 ship for that. And if you're gonna be beef, don't 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:00.840 make it hot. Gonna make it hot, you make it. 1:04:02.120 --> 1:04:05.880 You're gonna do some real ship. Don't you spading your 1:04:05.880 --> 1:04:08.840 reaction to nothing? Big ain't say nothing. You don't know 1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:11.439 what's gonna happen when you see I ain't saying nothing, 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:13.920 no response you bigger, cut you off. You're spawning anything. 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:16.040 Now you make a record, don't call me no more. 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:19.160 Don't come to nigger. You're you're done, finish. We don't 1:04:19.200 --> 1:04:22.880 do that now for the record day. The rumor is 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:28.440 who shot you was recorded way before that as a 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:32.240 vinyl like like didn't Yeah, it didn't make sense before 1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:34.560 any two that's supposed to been from Mary j album 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:36.800 for her that's supposed an intro to her first album, 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:39.160 Get the Funk Out. Who Shots My Life is the 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:41.080 second album intro to the second album, It was too 1:04:41.120 --> 1:04:44.960 hard for it too was take you kids in the building. 1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:49.680 You know, we gotta put you over there. You gotta 1:04:49.720 --> 1:04:51.200 put you over there again. I've been hanging out with 1:04:51.200 --> 1:04:53.400 my man for about the week. Kiss serious and you 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:56.720 go to the gym to every day snaphing got up 1:04:57.080 --> 1:04:59.680 playing for he don't play those games and with drink 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:02.040 with you, so you said, who shot You? Was done? 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:04.560 Was done for what? That was for Mary J Blide 1:05:04.640 --> 1:05:07.640 That was to her second album, and it was it 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:11.720 was baby, let's Keith LLL COO J and big on it. 1:05:12.200 --> 1:05:16.520 Who Shot You? Yeah, that's the original Keith Murray J. 1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:20.840 Originally was Keith, Mary J and b I and it 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:22.480 was from Mary. It was the intro to Mary J 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:24.240 My Life album. I never heard of it and it 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:27.160 was like, this is too hard to be just to 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:29.240 start off for R and B album. And once they 1:05:29.280 --> 1:05:31.160 scratched it, b I was like, give me the record. 1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:32.640 I'm gonna sunk with it, and b I added the 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:34.320 second verse to it and took it. It was a 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:36.160 B side record and put it on the B side too. 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:38.160 I wish it what Big paper one more chance it 1:05:38.280 --> 1:05:40.880 was on and we just ran with that was way 1:05:41.000 --> 1:05:43.680 before that, but it did feel like Big was coming 1:05:43.760 --> 1:05:48.280 at It's a coincidence that, I mean that had me 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:52.320 at that time, No, I know I noticed, but like that, 1:05:52.400 --> 1:05:54.280 Why would people think that when they know they already 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:58.800 earned this record before? Because that was just Big generation stupid. 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:02.320 Now they've been stupid. You say, I'm like, why y'all, 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:04.720 Why would y'all think that? But I understand just from 1:06:04.760 --> 1:06:07.520 the situation at that time, I knew how it was. 1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:10.240 But we you know, Bigness sweat it though Big New 1:06:10.360 --> 1:06:12.400 Big News. It was Bigger. That's you know, he like man, 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:14.520 he know that song and about you know that song. 1:06:14.560 --> 1:06:15.800 We're done before that, you know what I mean? So 1:06:15.880 --> 1:06:19.200 big that when Big is on stage and they kind 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:22.360 of born them and oh that was real. That was 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:28.360 we was a Satha Mano and ship the South Amento. 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:29.800 It was a bunch of like West Coast on his 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:32.960 booked on that show, not you for his be legit 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:38.920 the pute we get love out there. You know, we 1:06:38.960 --> 1:06:41.560 didn't know about this interview, uh, this interview that Big 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:43.320 opposed he did with this dude from Toronto. He put 1:06:43.360 --> 1:06:44.720 a bunch of ships and said, big was this is 1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:47.920 why West Coast all this ship and uh I remember 1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:49.880 walking through that ship and Nigga mac Tim bumped me 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:52.200 and ship well, you know, I walked through the spot 1:06:52.280 --> 1:06:53.760 like the circus spots he was in there and see 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:55.760 the type of business in here. Walked through one time. 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:58.400 I just get the film. I turned out. I looked 1:06:58.400 --> 1:07:01.000 back to Nick Mactin like this with me, so I 1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:05.760 looks a big motherfucker. So I was like, big this 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:10.280 ship though it don't feel like that that love. When 1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:15.240 we got on stage, you don't stay then stop throwing 1:07:15.280 --> 1:07:17.360 coins at us and ship man you know that coins 1:07:17.400 --> 1:07:19.120 throwing that you're on stage and ship's hurt my nigger 1:07:21.280 --> 1:07:23.840 that sho and big guy mad I was like, your 1:07:23.840 --> 1:07:26.560 fun that throwing? Who shot you? Who shot shot? And 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:29.240 when do who shots you? On? They just start going nuts. 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.640 They stopped throwing. They want bad But I did that ship. 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:35.520 I didn't want to do that right here, listen dog 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:40.080 say that the place you know you get guy Big 1:07:40.280 --> 1:07:47.120 requested it like like you shoot me like butcher, like 1:07:47.480 --> 1:07:50.440 it's crazy in a funny way, it's crazy like like 1:07:50.560 --> 1:07:53.040 but sometimes you gotta take those. It's just stand out. 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:55.440 They just didn't want to feel like, you know, they 1:07:55.560 --> 1:07:57.320 was getting to them where they was attimidating them like 1:07:57.400 --> 1:07:59.680 I fuck, man, I want to do that. Who shot 1:07:59.720 --> 1:08:02.640 you enough? Like trying to hold that ship just like 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:10.400 who shot you? Who shot you? On that ship just 1:08:10.520 --> 1:08:12.920 changed the whole momentum. Ship we got followed back to 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:14.760 be leagit, follow us back to the hotel that day 1:08:14.800 --> 1:08:16.360 and all that ship. Man, they thought Big was trying 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:18.920 to diss the whole city. Some bullshit that's interviewed somebody 1:08:18.960 --> 1:08:20.559 put out. But then they squashed that ship right there. 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:24.360 Big on the phone efore and talk about it. Let's 1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:25.680 you know what that hit. It was like, yo, man, 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:26.920 let me know, y'all get to the town, you get 1:08:26.960 --> 1:08:29.320 to their ports, saton. That was what the nwnstairs and 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:31.080 anything stayed in the hotel a lot before to the 1:08:31.120 --> 1:08:33.519 whole to the next morning, took us to the at. 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:39.599 If you go online, you can find this demo um 1:08:39.800 --> 1:08:42.800 before unsigned hype. You heard it, No, I heard it. 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:46.320 I saw unsigned Hype and that's that's when I called 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.160 Maddie see miss the Sea, and I, you know, track 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:52.240 down the demo from just the explanation of what I heard, 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:56.360 you know, and his look was so disruptive, you know, 1:08:56.400 --> 1:08:59.240 it's a good way to explain he felt. He felt 1:08:59.320 --> 1:09:02.000 like Miles Davis to me, you know what I'm saying. 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:04.240 When I when I had first song, but it was 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:09.200 like it was it was a vibrational attraction that was dead. 1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:11.920 Like I knew, I like store up to stare at 1:09:12.000 --> 1:09:14.679 the picture, you know what I'm saying, for like maybe 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:18.360 six days, you know what I'm saying after hearing the music, 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:21.960 you know, no, no, before I even got the demo, 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:25.960 just a picture in itself was giving me this strong 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:29.639 vibration that I knew that whatever this guy was saying, 1:09:30.800 --> 1:09:33.880 like you know, it was it was something that was 1:09:35.000 --> 1:09:38.160 It was something that was really really really really authentic, 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:40.960 just by the look in his eyes, you know. And 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:44.720 then when I heard the music, you know, it was 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:46.760 one of those things I merely called my girl and 1:09:46.800 --> 1:09:48.400 I was like, Yo, you gotta you gotta tell me 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:51.560 if this is as hot as great as is, I 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:55.000 really believe it is. You know, she heard it. She 1:09:55.120 --> 1:09:58.680 was like like, wherever he's at, you better go get him, 1:09:59.360 --> 1:10:02.439 you know what I'm saying. And now that was that's 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:06.080 interesting that you said you called your girl. Yeah, because 1:10:06.200 --> 1:10:08.960 women are the biggest consumers of music without a doubt. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:12.160 So how how did you know that early on? Um? 1:10:12.720 --> 1:10:15.519 Because everything I did was for girls, My whole swag, 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:21.599 my whole you know, um, musically dancing. I started dancing 1:10:21.640 --> 1:10:27.839 because you know, I like, really, I really trust women's opinions, 1:10:27.840 --> 1:10:31.040 and I liked the vibration. And you know, I've always 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:34.560 just loved women that really were into music, you know, 1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:36.920 that knew how to dance and was in the music. 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:39.920 I can't even relate to somebody it's not into music, 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:42.960 So you know, um, you know, I had a girl 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:47.280 that was really into music, and and I really trusted 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:51.280 her judgment. So it was something that something that you 1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:54.599 know when it's something crazy and you got a girl 1:10:54.720 --> 1:10:57.000 that's like that on that same wavelength. She said that 1:10:57.040 --> 1:11:00.120 about Big Pride to see just on the demo just 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:02.200 on Yeah, yeah, the demo is crazy. Demo is some 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:05.400 of his best works. None of those tracks made it now, 1:11:05.439 --> 1:11:07.920 I mean he just he was just freestyling over some beats. 1:11:07.960 --> 1:11:10.160 So it wasn't you know, it wasn't that time where 1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:12.720 you could just wrap on somebody's beat. He was. He 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:14.680 was like kind of the first to do that. I 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:17.200 mean second when you know, you did the jacket for Beasts, 1:11:17.200 --> 1:11:19.200 but he didn't. In another way, but when he went 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:22.120 and rapped before Ready to Die on all l A beats, 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:24.479 you know what I'm saying. Before that, it wasn't like 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:27.800 people were getting on people's tracks, what I'm saying. So, so, 1:11:28.000 --> 1:11:31.800 how did you guys started incorporating like the R and 1:11:31.880 --> 1:11:34.519 B s, the R and B tracks, like the Juicy's 1:11:34.520 --> 1:11:37.320 and all that. Because I can listen to Biggest Demo 1:11:37.479 --> 1:11:41.240 and I can tell that that was directly um Uh, 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:44.040 which was my favorite record by the way, Juicy. But 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:47.599 but how do you go about convincing a hardcore artists 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:52.080 like big um to that this commercial, this commercial success 1:11:52.320 --> 1:11:54.680 is something that he needs. It really wasn't a lot 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:57.240 of convincing. I was like, yo, if you want to 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:01.320 you know, if you want to be big Big and 1:12:01.720 --> 1:12:04.479 you know, first of all, when we did partying bullshit, 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:07.000 he he didn't didn't know how to write a song, 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:09.519 so you know, you know, just like most rappers, you 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:12.479 know what I'm saying, everything was like sixty bars and everything. 1:12:13.160 --> 1:12:15.720 And then so you know, once you know, I kind 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:18.800 of broke down the whole song structured. To him, he 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:21.439 was like a genius, so he didn't he would take 1:12:21.520 --> 1:12:25.240 it and then and and and he just really was 1:12:25.400 --> 1:12:30.599 strong on making songs. People didn't write wraps down. Um. 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:34.760 That was that was the second year. Yeah, yeah, this 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:36.760 breaking news. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, 1:12:37.080 --> 1:12:39.680 the first year he would write him down. By the 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:41.639 second year, you know, he was just sitting the room 1:12:41.680 --> 1:12:43.760 and you wouldn't say nothing for like maybe two or 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:46.599 three days and go in and just do it from 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:50.679 head to toe. No punching in, nothing like that. Maybe 1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:58.000 a couple of times, you know, let's yeah. But as 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:00.519 far as the as far as the big record, you know, 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:02.800 going after the Juicy and the Big Papa with the 1:13:02.880 --> 1:13:05.439 Ozzy Brothers, it was just it was a vibe that 1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:08.360 I was in that I had. I had already seen 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:11.400 work to a certain degree, and I knew with Mobi 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:14.920 and Premier we had the harder edge tracks, and I 1:13:15.000 --> 1:13:18.479 knew that there was just this opportunity, um because even 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:20.200 you know, the West Coast was doing in their way 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:23.040 that their style of sampling more commercial type of hits. 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:25.840 But I knew that these joints right here These were 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:28.320 the things that I I grew up to in Hallan 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:29.840 when I used to have to do my chores in 1:13:29.880 --> 1:13:33.120 the morning. These records was really really deep, like sheet 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:35.960 to me, you know what I'm saying, and and just 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:40.479 having that juicy sample and in the Big Papa joint 1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:42.200 and then the One More Chance. I had all that 1:13:42.280 --> 1:13:45.880 at the same time, So you know, I knew he 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:48.280 wanted to be fly and I told him like, this 1:13:48.439 --> 1:13:51.120 is the road to the flying noess, she just gonna 1:13:51.120 --> 1:13:53.680 be really dusty and be doing videos behind like in 1:13:54.000 --> 1:13:57.200 abandoned buildings, And he was like, I want to be flying. 1:13:57.280 --> 1:14:00.320 He always wanted to just have make sure his gear 1:14:01.040 --> 1:14:05.559 was flyer. Then somebody that was slimmer. Now that One 1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:10.320 More Chance remix like in the Streets album was already 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:14.280 a phenomenon. We already knew where Big was going. But 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:20.880 then y'all one more Chance remix and video like how 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:24.720 like what was the fund? Did you thinking? To say? 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:27.720 Like what was it? Because because I believe he was 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:29.400 gold at the time, was that to like the record 1:14:29.439 --> 1:14:31.439 that you wanted to take it over to the platinum 1:14:31.720 --> 1:14:35.320 or yeah? Yeah, you know, um as a producer, I 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:39.040 get here giving me the you know, the confidence. So 1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:42.400 you know, when you really believe in everything's great and 1:14:42.479 --> 1:14:45.960 you're in that frequency, you know, that's what you're attracting. 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:48.840 And I attracted that sample and I was like this 1:14:49.040 --> 1:14:51.799 one right here, this is this right this right here? Scary? 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:54.000 You know, it was scary, you know because it was 1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:57.720 a true record for the ladies. And not only that, 1:14:58.240 --> 1:15:01.920 it felt like I felt like you and Big perfected 1:15:02.400 --> 1:15:06.880 feeding the streets and feeding the radio. Yeah, like at 1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:09.400 the same time you had who shot you that all 1:15:09.520 --> 1:15:12.600 the streets? You know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards that, 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:15.800 but you're killing the radio? Like who was that? You? 1:15:15.880 --> 1:15:19.360 Who developed a strategy of feed the streets? And you 1:15:19.400 --> 1:15:21.519 know it was it was more of a respect thing 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:24.479 of of of I knew what he wanted to do 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:27.080 and if we were going to have this like partnership 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.320 on making music, and he was going to follow me 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:31.679 down the road to making some of these bigger records, 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:34.600 and you know, then I would follow him down the 1:15:34.720 --> 1:15:38.880 road to um, you know, making more the hardcore records. 1:15:39.080 --> 1:15:41.280 There's only one line that I had made him change 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:44.080 or just record that he went too far for me. 1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:48.120 You need this story. I think he talked about rape 1:15:48.160 --> 1:15:52.160 and Mary or something that, yeah it was and I 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:54.400 just I just I just couldn't do it. And he 1:15:54.520 --> 1:15:59.200 respected dreams. No this is this is just a free 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:02.040 style because that eventually came out though now I was 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:04.720 kind of um like set that standard when he said 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:06.880 when I was twelve, I went to help us nothing 1:16:07.040 --> 1:16:10.720 Jesus so all artists was trying to say something disrespectful 1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:13.519 like still clever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but yea yeah 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:15.479 yeah but that yeah, that was the only thing that 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:19.200 we had started to have a discussion about certain responsibilities. 1:16:19.600 --> 1:16:21.479 He didn't really give a funk, but at the same 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:24.960 time he was he was kind of a big one. Yeah, 1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:30.040 but he over the bridge that yeah, he said he 1:16:30.479 --> 1:16:35.920 whatever he said was like from from a standpoint of lyricism, 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:39.519 it was yeah, it wasn't from this. It wasn't a 1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:45.000 shock value like yeah, yeah value. Yeah. He seemed like 1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:47.400 on the first album that it felt like West Coast 1:16:47.479 --> 1:16:50.120 influenced him a lot, like that's the way I felt 1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:53.200 as a listening Yeah, really not at all. Yeah, because 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:55.000 there were some samples that they sampled a lot of 1:16:55.120 --> 1:16:56.960 some of the West Coast records and some of the 1:16:57.080 --> 1:16:59.200 oh yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as me sampling, I 1:16:59.320 --> 1:17:02.040 was definitely in was by the chronic They're even ready 1:17:02.080 --> 1:17:04.960 to Die that whole, So that was not him. Yeah, yeah, 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:07.000 that was me that because I was I heard the 1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:09.400 chronic and I just really became obsessed with how they 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:11.320 were able to make it sound like it was. Actually 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:13.599 you actually got into a low ride in the comment. 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:16.439 So I wanted ready to Die to feel like you was, 1:17:17.240 --> 1:17:19.200 you know, in Brooklyn and from New York and so 1:17:19.439 --> 1:17:22.840 you know, Dre definitely inspired me, you know on that one. 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:27.320 Would you enjoy more producing? Oh? Yeah, that was that 1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:30.200 was the only one that we I mean, Cola was 1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:31.519 on the Locks out. Of course that was gonna be 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:35.720 our album, didn't you say? I want that Big win 1:17:35.840 --> 1:17:40.120 at y'all? Yeah, you'll see verse what you'll see the 1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:43.640 first it's actually the Locks first feature with Big We 1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:48.400 never met him, and I know what happened. Puff Winning 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:51.320 told him some ship puff Winning. Y'all got these niggas 1:17:51.320 --> 1:17:55.479 from youngest, the dirty winning niggas. They're coming crazy, They're 1:17:55.520 --> 1:18:00.960 coming for you. That he came crazy. He came from 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:06.640 the first line nig's talking when ain't I don't know 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:13.160 how crazy I can't go back and listen to what 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:23.400 was coming. That was coming. He could have actually broke 1:18:23.479 --> 1:18:29.080 our smith. He could all wrong. He could have tail 1:18:29.160 --> 1:18:37.320 between the legs and kiss leg that. Let me just 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:40.519 crib the situate. So y'all come to the lab like 1:18:40.760 --> 1:18:44.680 big people. If he was dope the ground, he was 1:18:44.800 --> 1:18:49.519 like he loved underground you ship. He was into him 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:53.439 and Math that record, I can't. I don't know how 1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:57.200 that came up with that. That record seems like they 1:18:57.320 --> 1:19:00.760 were going rad it like and and at that time, 1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:02.920 Meth was considered the best because he had the m 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:06.040 A T H O. D man. He was cooking. He 1:19:06.160 --> 1:19:09.200 was cooking, he was he was ripping everything that was 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:12.240 that that name was every everywhere, and that was going 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:14.240 to be all famous him and old Dirty. I still 1:19:14.400 --> 1:19:20.400 can't say who won that. I still certain days like 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:27.600 different styles too. I give it up. I say, was like, no, 1:19:27.680 --> 1:19:31.880 he got me. He said that j join he said 1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:35.120 Jake got him book of Finance. I gotta disagree said that. 1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:40.280 I told he wasn't think he's bucking dog. See, I 1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:42.160 didn't understand j in the beginning. He was using all 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:44.559 them big words and that school nine grade mon nigger 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:47.800 I didn't know all that scientific or reflical and orlean. 1:19:48.760 --> 1:19:51.040 I understand that. I understand the color ship direct to 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:53.240 the point and b I was more like a direct 1:19:53.280 --> 1:19:56.240 but bad? Now would it be? He bodied something going 1:19:56.400 --> 1:20:02.439 and Philly. He never had, Oh man come out and 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:05.439 sees events. He should have, he said, a man like 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:09.160 somebody should have told him, no, a big not that 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:15.800 it's still work. Still, I'm sorry, I'm still he killed 1:20:15.840 --> 1:20:20.760 him now that was hurt from getting big that we're 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:23.439 going to speaking his defense. He's a lawyer, he's a 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:32.840 way rapid and winning helped to a lawyer's biggest sue. 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:36.960 You know, I'm just saying. I always was like music 1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:42.200 is still I'm sorry, I'm sorry like that. No, that 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:45.479 was some big they had. No he even destroyed Shock, 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:50.160 but he's found but come on, destroyed Shock, he said Shock. 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:52.880 You get it too. That that was the only record 1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:55.519 with him and nas on it. Hrsus was four shack 1:20:55.680 --> 1:20:59.599 shots versus that he said was for shocks shot, winning 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:03.720 and broken. He couldn't say basketball politics, your dog, I can't. 1:21:03.760 --> 1:21:07.200 I can't say nothing that you got right. I was 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:11.400 there with kids on that record called the Who World. 1:21:11.960 --> 1:21:14.280 He came back. He had a verse there we was going, 1:21:14.400 --> 1:21:16.120 we was at the hotel. It wasn't Naas on that 1:21:16.280 --> 1:21:19.000 record as well. I don't know. I don't believe it's 1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:22.720 a virgin. The only version between Big and Nas only 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:24.479 heard that when we did we went to Jack Cribb 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:26.960 and and that ship is at the same time that 1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:29.599 they're talking about the same record, but no, the same 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:33.360 time that they're talking and Big, what what record did 1:21:33.439 --> 1:21:38.560 Big guard Nas? Kicking the door? Kicking the door? What 1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:40.800 was that line? Because Nas came back he said some ship, 1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:43.479 but it was he was like, he was like niggas 1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:47.800 Champagne last year. They wasn't champ Now said the line 1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:49.479 he said, he take the crown off the so called 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:52.200 king and lock it down freestyle. He did it, Big 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:56.200 people that and that was Big response to the the 1:21:56.320 --> 1:21:58.679 third verse to kicking the door. What did he say? Again, 1:21:59.200 --> 1:22:02.520 this goes out but those that choose to use disrespectful 1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:06.240 views on the kingdom and why fun that way? Don't 1:22:06.320 --> 1:22:10.560 bleat now you were railing it, snatch that lightship, scaling it. 1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:15.479 Conscience of your nunsiense eight so more powdered and Johnson 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:23.479 than Johnson. Vision legs never laxed. That is crazy. I 1:22:23.600 --> 1:22:25.120 used to have to catch you on this ship. I 1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:27.920 still catch you onto some ship now, Damn dog, I 1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:30.080 ain't know what that. I just had to ask Bigger 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:32.800 what you mean by that? What's that? But that's where 1:22:32.800 --> 1:22:35.120 that came from? I asked where that came from? He 1:22:35.280 --> 1:22:38.400 he played the free style was like Listen's even using 1:22:38.479 --> 1:22:42.120 big words. It's his flow, it's his delivery. And the 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.719 way he said the words. Man, it was just so clear, 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:50.439 cun of your nunsense. We had never laxed back big 1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:57.599 so wonderful love. It was a wonderful big, big fat 1:22:57.760 --> 1:23:01.559 black motherfucker must be antics. You just feel like big 1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:06.680 fat niggam. I think Punney was a very romantic. I'm 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:10.200 just doing I used to see the nigga with roses 1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:15.000 all the time, just no reason. What are you doing 1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:17.360 with my brother? Little speak? He did a little spik 1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:23.080 of looking at that like it was just cool. Yeah, 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:27.320 so got a little awk with this. Dope was dope. 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:28.840 It's good, it's good, it's good to get the akers 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:31.519 sometimes was real. He was really big pimping dog. He 1:23:31.640 --> 1:23:36.439 was up. Now, let's describe at that time, right, because 1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:39.200 at that time you're just getting the notice guy right 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:42.000 and in according to the movie, it's like he gave 1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:45.439 bigger check and he gave Big all these promises, but 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:49.559 he really had no accolades to match that as a whole. 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:51.519 Like you know, I mean he worked up, but not 1:23:51.760 --> 1:23:55.600 for himself, but that he had something he had. He 1:23:55.760 --> 1:24:03.400 had Joe. He didn't like what I'm saying that he 1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:06.639 was one was his first label, bad Boy, So yeah, 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:10.280 but I was it was he was gonna make his career. 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:13.000 So what made what do you think made y'all in general? 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:16.120 When Big even trust this guy B I funk not 1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:17.600 think just be I just knew he knew what he 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:20.519 was doing and he was he was he was devoted 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:22.560 to b. I. That's something I couldn't say about He 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:24.479 was you when it came to be I. He was 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:26.479 straight up with Big. I mean, I can't knock that. 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:28.519 I can't take that away. It wouldn't be no B. 1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:31.680 I once phone the one for Pepe straight up. It's 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:33.840 just a real ship ever and be our funk with him. 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:37.600 And then the day we did you know, the end 1:24:37.600 --> 1:24:39.599 of the day, if he say it's cool, it's cool, 1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:42.360 who am I honestly up next man. You know, I 1:24:42.520 --> 1:24:46.760 consider this this person to be a pioneer and what 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:51.360 it is, you know, for hip hop podcasting. He he 1:24:51.479 --> 1:24:53.840 definitely was someone that that I was checking out and 1:24:54.000 --> 1:24:57.120 inspired by, you know. And who I'm speaking about is 1:24:57.200 --> 1:25:00.680 no other than Reggio say a K. Combat Jack, you know, 1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:03.719 who is definitely a legend hosting one of the original 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:08.000 hip hop podcasts with the Combat Jack Show. His resume 1:25:08.439 --> 1:25:11.640 far proceeds a podcast world, as he was a successful 1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:14.240 lawyer and represent a sort of hip hops the legendary 1:25:14.360 --> 1:25:18.360 artists and producers such as Jay Z, Rockefeller Records, component 1:25:18.400 --> 1:25:21.600 Ori Aga, and more. It was an honor to have 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:25.120 interviewed Combat Jack on Drink Champs. I mean, to meet him, 1:25:25.160 --> 1:25:27.840 to talk to him, to interact with him, to hear 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:31.519 the full episode. Checkout episode thirty two with Combat Jack 1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:35.800 and Jack Thriller was. It was a hilarious um episode. 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:37.400 You just gotta check it out if you have and 1:25:37.600 --> 1:25:41.160 it's it's definitely one of our classics. But here's some 1:25:41.240 --> 1:25:47.080 great moments from that episode. The more careful you have 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:52.120 to be with your words, so that a so I 1:25:52.240 --> 1:25:56.040 learned this. I learned this listening from Tupac Biggie and 1:25:56.160 --> 1:26:01.400 Jack right when Tupac comms no not just listen to 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:05.240 their music and Tupac talking about I caught five and 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:09.240 this and that and just like embracing being a target, 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:12.439 you know what I'm saying, and then passing away too soon, 1:26:12.520 --> 1:26:14.960 you know what I'm saying. Biggie's first album one of 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:18.800 the most impactful albums of all time, Ready to Die, 1:26:20.080 --> 1:26:24.360 Ready to No No But but but I worked boy all. 1:26:24.400 --> 1:26:26.000 I worked with a lot of the hit man I 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:30.400 worked with with Puff Puff, The Home Now, Derek Angeletti, 1:26:30.520 --> 1:26:36.280 Ron Lawrence, don't get out of my power. But let's listen, 1:26:36.320 --> 1:26:39.120 leten listen. I realized as a hip hop fan, particularly 1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:43.040 with hip hop and the vibration that it strikes. We 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.720 don't we don't take hip hop for joke. Hip Hop 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:48.240 is real when you say, some ship's real. So if 1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:50.360 you say you're ready to die and you got a 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:54.240 million fans, that ship travels. But at the same time, 1:26:54.320 --> 1:26:57.360 and you noticed Nori when Jay was coming up, niggas 1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:00.200 didn't think Jay was gonna be that nigger, right am, 1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:03.320 I right? Wrong? But when Jay was like, I'm gonna 1:27:03.400 --> 1:27:07.880 be the richest motherfucker speaking in hippot. He became that. 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:12.120 So I learned the power of words. So my biggest 1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:16.479 um lesson and podcast is thinking, it's just me and 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:20.240 my niggas in this studio talking ship, and and and 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:22.640 and one day I did this rant with regard to 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:26.120 Pat Hooo's okay and the and the ship went viral. 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:28.360 And that ship surprised me because it was just a 1:27:28.439 --> 1:27:30.599 small part of our episode. What was you saying about 1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:32.599 bad poos? I was just I'm just saying something about 1:27:32.640 --> 1:27:34.679 bad like he wasn't good. I was just saying something 1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:40.000 about I don't know what you're saying, drink. I just 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:44.800 heard a record that I didn't have. No just I 1:27:44.920 --> 1:27:47.880 heard a record on No No it was my boot. 1:27:47.920 --> 1:27:50.840 That record my boot, And I was like, yo, this 1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:54.439 is not who got paid. So I went off like 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:58.200 I was on Twitter, and some pappoose followers was like 1:27:58.320 --> 1:28:01.320 coming at me because I'm not gonna argue. I'm not 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:03.679 gonna argue with you. I'm gonna address this on my show. 1:28:04.120 --> 1:28:07.080 So when I did, the ship went viral. And then 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:11.519 when I realized that I crossed the line, it was 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:13.720 too late to take the words. What did you say? 1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:16.720 What did you say? Just just let's just google it, 1:28:16.800 --> 1:28:22.880 my nigga. I'm telling you google it, my nigga, because 1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:24.920 I'm moving forward, you know what I'm saying. So when 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:28.240 I realized that I crossed the line with Papoose and 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:30.880 I could never get you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:28:31.439 --> 1:28:33.920 I was like, Yo, you gotta watch what you say 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:37.880 because even when we're joking, you could hurt somebody or 1:28:37.920 --> 1:28:41.679 you could create an enemy for life with your words. 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:43.760 And it was like, not that I'm afraid to say 1:28:43.840 --> 1:28:47.320 my honest truth, but I still got to realize and 1:28:47.400 --> 1:28:50.160 be responsible what I say about the other man, right 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:53.120 because the thing about podcasts, it's kind of lives forever. 1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:57.519 These interviews don't die, so right now, everything that we said, 1:28:57.680 --> 1:28:59.920 that's that's that's the reason why I wanted to be 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:02.120 clear and let you know that everything I ever said 1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:04.680 about you was just jokes and always. But I mean, 1:29:04.840 --> 1:29:07.280 you know that the difference is y'all in each other face. 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:09.439 So I have a whole different outlook on it. I 1:29:09.520 --> 1:29:11.120 feel like if you, like, I say a lot of 1:29:11.200 --> 1:29:15.439 crazy things that you do, and I say that everybody face, 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:19.360 did I did I say something about like, for instance, 1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:22.599 you know, I hear an incident with two chains. Oh yeah, 1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:25.720 what happens to Yeah, you know, he said, he's gonna 1:29:25.720 --> 1:29:29.519 suck you up. He said, water Front Realty right where 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:37.320 not that New York is not what public performance, it's publishing. 1:29:38.080 --> 1:29:41.400 So it's that's one. What's you said? I said? I said? 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:48.200 I said public performance publishing synchronization. So like whenever your 1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:53.680 ship is like the movie movie commercial video, but when 1:29:53.720 --> 1:29:56.120 they write a two chains wrap and the ship is 1:29:56.160 --> 1:29:58.840 a kid to bring up two chains guy. So when 1:29:58.880 --> 1:30:02.360 the lyrics are written that people buy people buy them 1:30:03.600 --> 1:30:08.679 people people, it's a dying breed for people buy print 1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:12.640 people by How does the ship choreographic? How can I 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:15.840 play this whole? Oh? You mean writing the music, writing 1:30:15.880 --> 1:30:19.160 the music and the lyrics. It's still public. The lyrics 1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:21.080 is considered like the music, like if you were to 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:28.479 play I said four, that's four five record sales Breckord sales. 1:30:28.520 --> 1:30:30.960 But but but it's but but it's expanded right now 1:30:31.320 --> 1:30:35.240 because now is digital streaming stream So maybe it's at 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:37.400 seven right now, I mean I'm at the authority, but 1:30:38.320 --> 1:30:45.760 um title, yeah, Apple Spotify, that's that's an extra six. 1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:49.759 So now let me ask you there might be a seventh. 1:30:50.200 --> 1:30:53.960 You might be a seven six genius is print now 1:30:53.960 --> 1:30:59.120 I would say genius, But I just picked up I 1:30:59.200 --> 1:31:01.360 just give you all sick out of the music to 1:31:01.720 --> 1:31:04.880 make money off you music. So Jack, how old you Jack? 1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:10.240 I'm sorry, just but thirty self? Okay, young buck? Yeah, 1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:15.479 I got a old face. But so in your opinion 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:20.760 to you're picking up a young you of yourself, you 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:25.320 think streaming hurt the industry or streaming helped it? And 1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:27.320 think it helped the industry? Man, because I like the 1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:31.400 fact that you it ain't no excuses if you can't 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:33.920 make it right now, you know you don't even deserve 1:31:33.920 --> 1:31:35.400 to be in the game. I don't think that's true. 1:31:35.439 --> 1:31:37.680 I don't think that's agree with him. I mean I 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:40.560 don't in a sense because before there was the you know, 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:43.640 the gatekeepers in a sense if your gatekeepers, No, no, 1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:47.720 that's that's true. But the oversaturation makes it harder in 1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:52.200 a sense. What's balancing a way harder to to be hurt, 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:56.240 to be hurt byfend. I love music. I always love music. 1:31:56.680 --> 1:31:59.400 I'm not gonna listen to ship I don't right you 1:31:59.520 --> 1:32:01.280 might not eat even know the music that you would 1:32:02.360 --> 1:32:07.519 when I find you when I find. When I find it, 1:32:07.680 --> 1:32:11.960 you wouldn't know. Continue, but you wouldn't know because it's 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:15.000 in the Ether's a million artists. Okay, so there's a 1:32:15.080 --> 1:32:17.560 million niggas that I won't listen to. But when I 1:32:17.600 --> 1:32:20.639 find a Anderson Park. When I said when I find, 1:32:21.760 --> 1:32:23.880 you don't find them. The people you're about to mention 1:32:23.960 --> 1:32:26.320 are people are being promoted by high profile people. But 1:32:26.400 --> 1:32:31.120 I don't follow high profile too. To Motte, what did 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:34.960 I accidentally pull into my ship? Because I'm still crazy digging, right, 1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:39.360 I'm still crazy digging digitally. So when I find some ship, 1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:43.000 I funk with fun with it, and it's the same ship. 1:32:43.200 --> 1:32:46.680 It doesn't matter if you've got something commercial promotion or 1:32:46.840 --> 1:32:49.519 if it's just straight up Internet promotion of my my 1:32:49.680 --> 1:32:52.439 friends saying something. So I saying something, you know what 1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:54.080 I'm saying. If it's getting that there's getting out there 1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:55.960 because it's hot, I'm gonna tell you what the difference is. 1:32:56.120 --> 1:32:59.040 Why I think the difference is that back in the days, 1:32:59.680 --> 1:33:03.360 that's is horrible. That makes me. But back in the days, 1:33:03.720 --> 1:33:07.080 you needed to work and pay certain dudes to get 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:10.519 in a studio, record on tape or whatever the funk 1:33:10.560 --> 1:33:13.120 digital wouldn't matter. DJ F and you you lived in 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:16.880 the arrow. No, no, this is a great fall in 1:33:16.960 --> 1:33:23.080 that area. But but we're talking. I don't care. I 1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:27.040 got fucking white hairs and that's cool. But listen, Jan, 1:33:27.439 --> 1:33:29.479 we've been we we in back to the future in 1:33:29.640 --> 1:33:31.800 real life. But we're but I'm giving, We're giving the 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:36.720 comparison though, comparison. What do you think about young Thunk? 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:40.080 I'm unsure about. I don't get That's what I was 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:43.000 trying to talk about from there. No, no, no, I 1:33:43.120 --> 1:33:47.040 want to know what is it authentic to whatever he 1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:49.519 comes from that he's wearing what he's wearing like, I 1:33:49.600 --> 1:33:52.080 know the music is read as inonating for sure. The 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:55.599 music is resona check this out. I don't even when 1:33:55.680 --> 1:33:58.720 when A Drake and J Coole first came out at 1:33:58.760 --> 1:34:02.599 the same time, I didn't understand why Motherfucker's was sucking 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:06.120 with Jacole because Drink had the better song and it 1:34:06.280 --> 1:34:09.200 was I forget what it was at the time he had, 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:11.840 but it was a song he were like, let's be 1:34:12.080 --> 1:34:20.880 on honest. Yeah. Well, the difference is the audience has expanded. Difference. Yeah, 1:34:20.920 --> 1:34:25.160 you don't about to say so, Um, Jacole had who 1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:29.320 that who that who that? I thought that was some bullshit. Yeah, 1:34:29.720 --> 1:34:33.320 I was like J Money had who that first? That's 1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:38.759 a Miami niggafy? Yo? Man, what then is up Jacole Niggle? 1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:41.800 Why then popper? You know what he said? He said, Hey, 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:45.360 you need to find out why he's popping so you 1:34:45.400 --> 1:34:47.920 can get yourself popping right now. I believe that that's 1:34:47.920 --> 1:34:51.719 true because otherwise you don't to be your side fifty won't. 1:34:51.840 --> 1:34:53.680 I can't down young dog. I just I want to 1:34:53.720 --> 1:34:57.760 know where does that come from? Like story, what is 1:34:57.800 --> 1:35:02.840 his story going on or something? If I'm at the bar, right, 1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:06.000 I'm buying a drink, Yeah, I'm looking at what's in 1:35:06.080 --> 1:35:08.840 the bar. I'm in the mood. And and and a 1:35:08.960 --> 1:35:14.320 young Plug record comes on and it's it's says a 1:35:14.439 --> 1:35:20.320 whole chain of events and you have no choice. Is 1:35:20.479 --> 1:35:25.160 music as opposed to like an artist? You know what 1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:30.200 I'm saying. There's that you understand when you hit that vein, 1:35:31.200 --> 1:35:33.000 you don't have to ask why it's like, Yo, listen 1:35:35.640 --> 1:35:37.880 because you know why. You know why. I like the 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:42.040 new generation. Okay, let me go, you guys go man, 1:35:42.400 --> 1:35:45.080 let me just listen because I gotta flate focus this 1:35:45.160 --> 1:35:48.880 is the reason why I'm with combat on this. That's 1:35:49.000 --> 1:35:52.679 my whole experience movement to Miami. Like I'm a hardcore 1:35:52.800 --> 1:35:58.320 boom bat hip hop left track, I get, I get divorce. 1:35:58.560 --> 1:36:04.639 I'm yeah, I'm doing it. I got no choice. I'm 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:08.200 going It's not Club eleven, it's gold Rushing. It's gold 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:11.760 rushing at the time. I'm going, so be loud. That's 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:16.639 big up Micah, even though he don't no more stacks stacks. 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:22.120 So they got me coming out here. And and the 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:25.439 thing is, I couldn't easily been that old New York 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:28.880 nigger like, well you don't play cog Rat and why 1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:33.200 I don't gonna play? And I was and and let me, 1:36:34.880 --> 1:36:38.160 let me, let me just keep it up. Hunting Ecstacy 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:44.600 was popping at that time, and so was I, and 1:36:44.720 --> 1:36:48.920 I felt every music in that motherfucker. I was like, 1:36:49.439 --> 1:36:53.560 what ship? This ship is hot, like this ning is 1:36:55.400 --> 1:36:59.799 like exactly, and I'm working with it. But it actually 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:04.479 made me young because I adapted to every environment. Then 1:37:04.520 --> 1:37:07.680 when I went back to New York, I would never 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:10.360 forget this. I went back to New York, I went 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:13.360 and the same music was playing, and my nigga said, 1:37:14.760 --> 1:37:18.320 why you smile, and I'm like, damn, man, my, yeah, mean, 1:37:18.360 --> 1:37:21.120 these records is popping, and these niggers just looked at 1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:23.120 me like, we don't funk with that over there, And 1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:26.200 I was like, damn. I merely knew I could be 1:37:26.280 --> 1:37:30.040 by coast from that very moment, because I really did 1:37:30.200 --> 1:37:32.599 feel these records. But when I was in New York, 1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:35.280 I was really like, I understand why y'all don't feel it, 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:38.880 because y'all ain't got palm, bitches, I mean palm. New 1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:42.000 York is the smallest market on the fucking planet. It's 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:45.280 the smallest market, but still the most influence. We had 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:48.560 the most influence that this year. This Now, this is 1:37:48.640 --> 1:37:51.160 the thing about New York. We've always had the most 1:37:51.240 --> 1:37:57.280 influence until our influence became the major influence and bring down. 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:01.400 Like when our ship became the stand it when fucking 1:38:01.560 --> 1:38:04.880 when fucking Dr Dre took public enemy and flipped it 1:38:04.880 --> 1:38:08.200 into n w A and expanded the market. You got 1:38:08.960 --> 1:38:12.640 you gotta say l A like the West Coast. The 1:38:12.720 --> 1:38:16.960 West Coast is a market of it of itself that 1:38:17.120 --> 1:38:22.920 flips into the South, that flips into up until up 1:38:23.000 --> 1:38:25.920 until Jersey. So when you look at the whole scheme 1:38:25.960 --> 1:38:28.920 of the music industry. New York is one city and 1:38:28.960 --> 1:38:31.560 it's the whole fucking New York also fucked up a 1:38:31.600 --> 1:38:34.519 lot of things because it was so it was organic. 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:40.520 But when when yes, when New York was too exclusive. 1:38:40.680 --> 1:38:43.479 But when I'm from I'm from the South region, what 1:38:43.600 --> 1:38:47.880 New York thought, nobody else can do it like us, 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:50.280 that's when you fucked up. That's what I'm saying, because 1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:53.000 we only want And then what happened every other region. 1:38:56.439 --> 1:38:59.680 It got so big that people like d C and 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:02.640 Jinja actually started. But DC is the South. D C 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:05.040 is the sound, yeah, but in the South. But d 1:39:05.200 --> 1:39:12.840 C Niggas is k we described. I lived in d C. 1:39:13.320 --> 1:39:23.280 D is opposite d Niggas. That's East cos in my opinion, 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:30.680 they're New York Now that's East coast to Georgia. In 1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:34.320 I went to Georgetown, push, it stays from the East 1:39:34.400 --> 1:39:36.599 coast to me when I stayed from when I stayed 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:39.519 in what I mean, but I love the South. We're 1:39:39.560 --> 1:39:41.479 on the East coast, and you know what I'm saying. 1:39:41.680 --> 1:39:44.519 You go to graphical so let me take let me 1:39:44.560 --> 1:39:47.160 say that. But that's where it goes wrong though. That's 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:50.479 listen coming from an E P M D Run DMC, 1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:55.479 Big Daddy came rock him in environment and in the 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:59.800 eighties living in Georgetown three, I went to Georgetown Law 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:01.760 for three years. I'm in d C. That's when he 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:05.519 went to and the only nigga they're playing from New 1:40:05.680 --> 1:40:09.400 York is Kumo D Kumo D. I'm like, this is 1:40:10.280 --> 1:40:13.519 his country, you see his country. They're not fucking with 1:40:13.640 --> 1:40:16.360 the niggas that we funk with. They fun with country niggas. 1:40:16.880 --> 1:40:18.840 When they say that again in d C. In d 1:40:19.000 --> 1:40:22.080 C in the eighties, I'm with rock Cam, Big Daddy 1:40:22.160 --> 1:40:24.640 came EPMD. I go to I go to DC and 1:40:24.720 --> 1:40:28.439 the only rap nigga they're playing, it's Komo D. Who's 1:40:28.479 --> 1:40:32.920 the only Who's the country is nigga out of New York. Yeah, 1:40:32.960 --> 1:40:37.000 when you say country is that sounds very I don't 1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:38.680 like it. Why do you say that? Why do you 1:40:38.680 --> 1:40:46.759 say because him South niggas and his two New York sounds? 1:40:48.680 --> 1:40:51.000 Why you don't like that? And let me tell you 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:54.120 when I when I was coming up man Indicata and stuff, 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:55.760 and a lot of New York niggers was coming down 1:40:55.840 --> 1:41:01.360 to you understand Grove, you know, and all schools and ship. 1:41:01.560 --> 1:41:04.880 Everybody thought they was smarter than that stuff. We thought 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:07.479 it was a game and ship. We're just having a 1:41:07.640 --> 1:41:11.360 Southern drawl. Don't get it confused. Just like you know 1:41:11.360 --> 1:41:15.439 what I'm saying, uh with Tony Nis ain't playing the South. 1:41:16.000 --> 1:41:19.680 We we beat New you up, niggas up. I'm not 1:41:20.600 --> 1:41:28.280 I'm not God. Two changes flipped on you. I agree 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:35.000 with you, add what you you favored to change over? 1:41:35.120 --> 1:41:40.640 Men like I ain't got gooms to you already apologize. 1:41:40.640 --> 1:41:44.599 I can't go back. I can't say that. I ain't 1:41:44.600 --> 1:41:47.439 say that at all. I didn't say that we have 1:41:47.560 --> 1:41:51.760 to order some food. We made some hip hop. Can 1:41:51.800 --> 1:41:54.760 we go to somebody? But that's even gonna be the game. 1:41:54.960 --> 1:41:57.479 Kids to be conversation going why you didn't got to 1:41:57.520 --> 1:42:00.960 get a bit of gamester and my opinion in my opinion, 1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:04.840 um because you know, you know what somebody told me. 1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:07.680 Somebody told me one day there was like you're a 1:42:07.760 --> 1:42:12.320 New York nigger that understood the South early. Yeah, super 1:42:12.680 --> 1:42:15.360 super thug was our was our was our beat? Was 1:42:15.400 --> 1:42:18.320 our realized they kind of jumping us, Jack, are you 1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:21.559 with me? Still? Listen? Listen? How are jumping You don't Listen, listen. 1:42:23.160 --> 1:42:28.040 I know I'm right. Listen, right in your heart, you 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:31.360 know I'm right. All right, Come the wind beneath your wings, 1:42:31.479 --> 1:42:34.360 speak to the mist podcast get here you. I don't 1:42:34.360 --> 1:42:36.240 know why I passed the blunt or who I passed 1:42:36.280 --> 1:42:39.840 it too, but it was a bad move. Listen, so listen. 1:42:40.800 --> 1:42:44.400 A lot of niggas told me that when I you 1:42:44.479 --> 1:42:47.240 know this super Doug, but a lot of people didn't. 1:42:47.560 --> 1:42:52.400 They said that, you know, I understood the understood the South. 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:55.800 Think about who super thug. Yes, I'm popping him the South. 1:42:56.120 --> 1:42:58.519 I'm getting to that. But what I'm saying is, at 1:42:58.640 --> 1:43:01.519 first nobody you knew who the fun These people were 1:43:02.720 --> 1:43:06.040 absolutely didn't know who this This is two years after 1:43:06.120 --> 1:43:08.799 the record is a hit, and then he produced for Mystical, 1:43:09.240 --> 1:43:11.759 and then they produced for Whole and then they actually 1:43:11.920 --> 1:43:14.880 claimed this is a South sound. But I already got 1:43:14.960 --> 1:43:20.960 two albums. I got n O R E, which nobody 1:43:21.520 --> 1:43:24.560 at this time. I brought him to every artist in 1:43:24.600 --> 1:43:29.240 the world. It wasn'utntil old non. What you believe is 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:31.719 the Melvin Flint, I'm not sure I could be bugging. 1:43:32.680 --> 1:43:38.120 And after that, every artist ran to the nigger. But 1:43:38.640 --> 1:43:42.760 what I'm saying is At first people could not identify 1:43:43.040 --> 1:43:47.360 where that sound came from. But afterwards people said that 1:43:47.560 --> 1:43:49.880 I was up early on on the South Sound. And 1:43:49.960 --> 1:43:54.280 that's great, that take that. But I always looked at 1:43:54.400 --> 1:43:59.480 Virginia as Virginia was at East coast state Virginia Maryland, 1:43:59.600 --> 1:44:02.800 Virginia for the more, the capital of the south of 1:44:02.920 --> 1:44:06.080 the Confederacy. Yeah, but them niggas is them niggas is 1:44:06.120 --> 1:44:10.679 New York crazy East Coast in me, you don't agree, 1:44:11.439 --> 1:44:15.360 He looked at me, crazy, I'm just drunk right now. 1:44:15.680 --> 1:44:20.760 To me, South stars at South Coast. Like Pip Pipsie 1:44:20.880 --> 1:44:24.000 had had this argument. He said that people from Atlanta 1:44:24.640 --> 1:44:27.519 wasn't really people Atlanta because he said, y'all. Same time, 1:44:27.800 --> 1:44:31.040 it's on the East coast. Remember he said that Jersey 1:44:31.120 --> 1:44:34.479 nigg is the South to me, Oh, come on South. 1:44:34.560 --> 1:44:43.320 To me, that's your name. That's crazy. That's why New 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:48.000 York is sucking up like I'm bringing back there. But 1:44:48.080 --> 1:44:49.920 I'm green to that. But when you go to Jersey, 1:44:50.680 --> 1:44:52.840 the hip hop is so different. But let me tell 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:59.360 you right real quick, a little I wouldn't say country 1:44:59.400 --> 1:45:01.920 though it's just a friend. I would saying my boys 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:05.720 down here. My crew, we all united and a lot 1:45:05.760 --> 1:45:07.600 of them are from Jersey, and we always had this 1:45:07.720 --> 1:45:09.559 thing against the New York hats that were that were 1:45:10.040 --> 1:45:12.120 coming down to Miami because they were now always just 1:45:12.200 --> 1:45:14.479 trying to like deepo their way in. And it was 1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:18.439 funny because the New Jersey with me and they got 1:45:18.560 --> 1:45:20.599 it because they were getting it like that you said 1:45:20.760 --> 1:45:24.200 right now, they wasn't feeling that, you know what I'm saying. Look, 1:45:25.320 --> 1:45:27.760 Jersey niggas was still two change. Got you funked up 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:32.800 thinking about But let's not okay, okay, let's let me 1:45:32.840 --> 1:45:35.080 ask the fact that you're saying sound I feel like 1:45:35.160 --> 1:45:39.600 you might. Let me ask you. I'm ready for whatever that. 1:45:39.720 --> 1:45:42.680 Don't place value what I'm saying. Don't place value what 1:45:42.760 --> 1:45:50.439 i'm saying because let combat talk combat. Don't place value 1:45:50.479 --> 1:45:53.519 what I'm saying, right, don't don't don't play good or bad. 1:45:54.160 --> 1:45:58.640 As a Brooklyn cat. Whenever we got into Jersey, it 1:45:58.800 --> 1:46:01.439 was different. And the further we got from Jersey, the 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:04.280 more south became. So for me as a Brooklyn nigga, 1:46:04.520 --> 1:46:08.240 the minute you cross Jersey, you're going further south. That's 1:46:08.280 --> 1:46:11.680 all I'm saying. It's not out of disrespect. It's it's 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:15.360 out of it. But you don't think that mentality is 1:46:15.439 --> 1:46:19.479 what I got to say something I agree with nothing 1:46:19.520 --> 1:46:24.400 this nigga just said just now because because to me, 1:46:24.560 --> 1:46:30.440 you know, Philly was my number one market on steroids 1:46:31.200 --> 1:46:36.280 in my opinions, is different, No, but it was no. 1:46:38.560 --> 1:46:43.639 Philly niggas was just as grimy as the early Square Mall. 1:46:45.400 --> 1:46:51.080 That what I'm saying is it me, I'll be Square 1:46:51.120 --> 1:46:54.200 more downtown where you had to get your fronts and 1:46:54.439 --> 1:46:57.360 pull your gun out. What got them all for the 1:46:57.479 --> 1:46:59.800 next level? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what we're 1:46:59.800 --> 1:47:10.479 saying you got the next level. You remember that DJ 1:47:10.680 --> 1:47:13.680 quick record. Everybody's like Compton. I mean, I don't know 1:47:13.680 --> 1:47:17.600 if that's exact term, but that made sense. He was like, 1:47:17.680 --> 1:47:19.679 I'm a Compton dude. But when I went out of town, 1:47:20.320 --> 1:47:24.040 everybody's like, everybody's hard. Everybody's But at the same time, 1:47:25.200 --> 1:47:27.439 what I'm saying is this, What I'm saying is this 1:47:27.880 --> 1:47:32.559 Berrow to Barrow, city to city niggas played different. Yes 1:47:33.360 --> 1:47:35.240 with that, So when you go to Philly, when you 1:47:35.280 --> 1:47:38.040 go to Philly, like these niggas look like Brooklyn niggas. 1:47:38.360 --> 1:47:41.720 These niggas look like New York niggas, but the wrong term, 1:47:43.000 --> 1:47:46.760 know what I'm saying. But then is different, So you 1:47:46.880 --> 1:47:51.160 gotta understand. And this is the beautiful thing about culture 1:47:51.640 --> 1:47:55.120 black white black, like just the d sport of black. 1:47:55.880 --> 1:47:58.519 When you go into a different culture, you gotta understand that, 1:47:58.600 --> 1:48:02.320 ship expect that, and humble yourself. It's true. So New 1:48:02.439 --> 1:48:05.200 York niggas coming to feeling like this is New York, 1:48:07.520 --> 1:48:11.640 maybe we will lay you the funk down, right. You 1:48:11.760 --> 1:48:13.840 gotta respect when you go. Know. But but what I'm 1:48:13.880 --> 1:48:17.360 trying to say is for me, for me, for my experience. 1:48:17.479 --> 1:48:22.280 I could be wrong, but I came up ninety seven. 1:48:22.360 --> 1:48:24.720 I started going on the road from seven. I went 1:48:24.800 --> 1:48:28.000 from New York. I went from Camden, New Jersey. I 1:48:28.080 --> 1:48:32.280 went from Trenton. I went from uh skipped, I skipped 1:48:32.320 --> 1:48:34.720 new Work. I'm going to the whole nunty five. I 1:48:34.760 --> 1:48:37.280 skipped Newark. Excuse me. I started in Nework. Then I 1:48:37.360 --> 1:48:39.479 went to camp. Then I went to Trenton, and then 1:48:39.880 --> 1:48:41.800 from there I went to Philly, phill it was my 1:48:41.920 --> 1:48:48.320 number one market. From Philly, I went to a Connecticut Uhlware, Delaware. 1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:51.640 I went to Maryland. I went to Bordom All I 1:48:51.720 --> 1:48:56.120 went to d C. D when you hit the DC 1:48:56.439 --> 1:49:00.240 never changed. I'm saying, there's always I'm saying, as the 1:49:00.320 --> 1:49:06.240 journey went through once with d C, Yeah, the market blossom. No, 1:49:06.640 --> 1:49:09.320 the market was already blossom. But the only time I 1:49:09.439 --> 1:49:12.080 felt like I was like in a in a different 1:49:12.240 --> 1:49:15.160 market was when I went to South Carolina. And the 1:49:15.240 --> 1:49:18.000 only reason why I felt like that, it's because South 1:49:18.080 --> 1:49:20.800 Carolina and niggas was throwing chairs and other niggas in 1:49:20.840 --> 1:49:22.760 the crowd, and I thought that was the gangster ship 1:49:22.840 --> 1:49:25.200 in the world. I was like, oh ship, chairs, ain't 1:49:25.240 --> 1:49:28.240 buckle down, you know like in Apollo and sing like 1:49:28.280 --> 1:49:30.479 that your chance is buckled down. And then when I 1:49:30.520 --> 1:49:33.040 went to South Carolina, said, these niggas as crazy as 1:49:33.080 --> 1:49:35.519 the motherfucker. And then I went to Durham and them 1:49:35.640 --> 1:49:38.040 niggas was crazy as the motherfucker. I went to Raleigh, 1:49:38.240 --> 1:49:42.600 them niggas as crazy as the motherfucker, Charleston everywhere. So 1:49:43.800 --> 1:49:46.559 all I've realized. I realized that we're all the same 1:49:46.680 --> 1:49:52.040 fucking people. The South started and it was a little 1:49:52.080 --> 1:49:56.040 bit more crazy as far as like, you know, throwing 1:49:56.200 --> 1:49:59.720 kids and just getting that motherfucker's but I realized we're 1:49:59.760 --> 1:50:03.439 all the same. But um, you know, I always considered 1:50:03.439 --> 1:50:05.960 that part East Coast. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't mind, 1:50:08.640 --> 1:50:11.800 but it's going in the South. And once again, I'm 1:50:11.840 --> 1:50:16.240 not taking anything what you said because I'm because because 1:50:17.040 --> 1:50:19.040 you see niggas in New York turned up and like, 1:50:19.160 --> 1:50:21.719 that's a New York nigga, exactly when you get to Jersey, 1:50:22.640 --> 1:50:26.360 niggas turned up differently. Yeah, but I still feel that, 1:50:27.400 --> 1:50:29.719 you know, it's it's it's one of my best friends 1:50:29.760 --> 1:50:33.360 and family, New York, New Jersey saying, I'm saying this family. 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:36.160 But I used to look at him like he flipped 1:50:36.160 --> 1:50:38.479 like a New Jersey nigga. And then what I'm saying, 1:50:38.520 --> 1:50:41.000 did I see him flip with the New York nigga? 1:50:41.000 --> 1:50:47.240 I said, this Nigga's just yeah, that's the same ship 1:50:47.320 --> 1:50:49.559 to me. But I understand what he's saying because it's 1:50:49.640 --> 1:50:52.760 ever get it. What I'm saying is this. What I'm 1:50:52.760 --> 1:50:55.800 saying is this, this is this is boiling the ship down, 1:50:56.280 --> 1:51:01.280 drinking this fucking vodka right now, and we're drinking Royal Elite. 1:51:04.000 --> 1:51:09.600 Make Fat Joe, no matter where you go, he had 1:51:09.640 --> 1:51:12.000 a block or a neighborhood or a city or town 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:14.760 your trial. But when you see a trial from a 1:51:14.800 --> 1:51:17.880 different place, it's like I understand which which we're trying. 1:51:18.640 --> 1:51:21.080 It's a family, you know what I'm saying. You might 1:51:21.160 --> 1:51:22.760 do some ship to the left, I might do, but 1:51:22.840 --> 1:51:26.760 with family, it's family. And then when you when you 1:51:26.840 --> 1:51:29.959 incorporate all the differences, that's when you can really appreciate 1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:33.760 family and you understand what I'm saying. You like that 1:51:33.920 --> 1:51:37.840 family respect how you do you respect? But at the 1:51:37.920 --> 1:51:41.960 end of the day, like together, live together at the 1:51:42.040 --> 1:51:45.080 end of the day. From the moment I came to Miami, 1:51:45.680 --> 1:51:48.680 he brought me to his store, and he knew for 1:51:48.840 --> 1:51:51.679 my music the type of person I asked. He didn't 1:51:51.720 --> 1:51:53.240 have to test me. He knew from the type of 1:51:53.280 --> 1:51:57.439 person I so accordingly he made it right the way 1:51:57.520 --> 1:52:01.000 it is, and me and him been of friends forever. 1:52:01.520 --> 1:52:04.880 Because I'm trying to say one decade, because I'm trying 1:52:04.880 --> 1:52:07.439 to be young man. He just keeping he's keeping going. 1:52:07.760 --> 1:52:10.600 But what I'm trying to say is we get that. 1:52:11.240 --> 1:52:15.040 But the thing about it is everybody is that's the 1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:17.040 thing where me and him is still friends for twenty 1:52:17.120 --> 1:52:20.400 years later because he gets that. It doesn't. We fight 1:52:20.479 --> 1:52:23.200 like brothers, no, like every day, almost every day, but 1:52:23.320 --> 1:52:24.920 we keep it moving. God, damn my god, bless you, 1:52:24.960 --> 1:52:26.479 God damn it. You don't even know what drink you 1:52:26.520 --> 1:52:30.360 got in your car. Yeah, Colombian white, that's bigger Colombian way. 1:52:30.360 --> 1:52:36.280 I'm sorry. I haven't been bigger Colombian white. Video were 1:52:36.280 --> 1:52:42.920 talking about Moss Petty. So as we're talking about Petty, 1:52:44.439 --> 1:52:47.439 two changes really flipped on your dog. He was, but 1:52:47.600 --> 1:52:50.599 you said apologize to do not you cannot take it back. 1:52:51.360 --> 1:52:57.880 I'm listening. Watch is pretty nice set because I don't 1:52:57.880 --> 1:52:59.680 even think you about to go someway. I don't want 1:52:59.720 --> 1:53:04.280 to go, so I gotta cut you off. Y'all think 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:07.240 when I cut people off that i'm cutting off. They 1:53:07.560 --> 1:53:09.000 know I'm cutting them all because I know where the 1:53:09.080 --> 1:53:11.920 story ends. That Watch is pretty nice. How are you doing? 1:53:12.160 --> 1:53:14.280 How do you know? I want to say something better, 1:53:14.360 --> 1:53:17.200 say something positive. I want to say is I just 1:53:17.320 --> 1:53:19.800 wanted him to know that I'm a man, and I 1:53:19.840 --> 1:53:23.680 wouldn't know sucker, and I didn't want him to know 1:53:24.120 --> 1:53:26.759 that I'm a man, but I felt like I ain't sucker, 1:53:27.439 --> 1:53:30.600 and what you this came just be saying things about me. 1:53:31.280 --> 1:53:33.519 You know what I'm saying because I said I'm sorry 1:53:34.080 --> 1:53:37.760 to his face. No, I don't even accepted it wasn't 1:53:37.760 --> 1:53:45.760 on the except let something is on the internet. If 1:53:45.800 --> 1:53:48.320 you don't respond to it on the internet, then that 1:53:49.280 --> 1:53:51.880 can I say something to you that don't count? North 1:53:52.040 --> 1:53:55.479 You got all jokes aside. No, this is all Joseph's side. 1:53:55.479 --> 1:53:57.960 I gave you that. L Listen, Listen, I'm gonna say 1:53:57.960 --> 1:54:00.759 you should apologize that. I'm gonna say saying me. Listen, 1:54:01.640 --> 1:54:05.720 I'm I'm twenty two, three years old. After defel band 1:54:05.800 --> 1:54:10.680 boy come out right and I my mom at uh, 1:54:11.160 --> 1:54:18.240 Philip Serena, it's bonn Uh. Vonner Brothers has show to 1:54:18.439 --> 1:54:21.960 Chains Circus. No, the Bonner Brothers. It's a it's a 1:54:22.000 --> 1:54:26.360 hair show. And I go up to two Chains and 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:31.760 dollar there there there Uh it was playing circle and 1:54:31.920 --> 1:54:35.120 I interviewed them and whatnot, and I'm I'm a fan 1:54:35.200 --> 1:54:38.840 of them, and I say, what was happening? First? And first, Uh, 1:54:39.640 --> 1:54:43.080 the first rap fi I've ever seen, first famous person 1:54:43.120 --> 1:54:44.880 I've seen. When I moved up. He was two Chains, 1:54:45.160 --> 1:54:47.200 but he was TV boy. I know who he is. 1:54:48.200 --> 1:54:50.760 I was a fan and when he said, what are 1:54:50.760 --> 1:54:54.160 he's saying about me? It hurts my feelings and I 1:54:54.240 --> 1:54:58.080 didn't like it. And I ain't never been no sucker, 1:54:58.960 --> 1:55:00.920 even though I got one out, I thought, ever since 1:55:00.960 --> 1:55:04.200 I was five years old. But trying no no, no nori, 1:55:06.040 --> 1:55:08.880 ever since I was fat, trying to let niggas know 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:13.880 I ain't no sucker. So if he game, he can 1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:17.360 get it. But if I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 1:55:17.360 --> 1:55:19.640 I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this, 1:55:20.000 --> 1:55:23.360 if anything't happened to me, if anything happened to me, 1:55:23.960 --> 1:55:31.160 am doing ain't We don't fighting. We don't fight. And 1:55:31.240 --> 1:55:36.280 I'm serious, you sniffer go to he look like real nick. 1:55:38.360 --> 1:55:42.800 I'm just letting you know what it is. Yeah, come on, man, 1:55:42.840 --> 1:55:47.600 we about peace right here. That's not what I said. 1:55:47.680 --> 1:55:57.000 He I never sing at you, apologize and say because 1:55:57.040 --> 1:56:00.160 you said I said your dream chance army makes this 1:56:00.680 --> 1:56:02.960 sweet mother. I didn't know you niggas have real beat. 1:56:06.080 --> 1:56:09.520 It's for the culture man ship. Man, y'all don't know. 1:56:10.080 --> 1:56:14.560 We are here September nine and Club Drain September Timp 1:56:14.880 --> 1:56:17.280 hit him with the barbecue. You know what I'm saying. 1:56:17.320 --> 1:56:20.280 Combat Jack coming out he said coming out back. Let 1:56:21.120 --> 1:56:23.960 he coming out. He gonna help us host the podcast. 1:56:25.040 --> 1:56:27.560 We're gonna control. They should be the lot ofator that 1:56:27.720 --> 1:56:30.840 now we're not making. That would be amazing. Yes, maybe 1:56:30.960 --> 1:56:36.520 a riff to help, Yeah, you know all that. And 1:56:36.680 --> 1:56:41.080 Jack try he's like sticky biggers. You don't wait, he 1:56:41.200 --> 1:56:46.600 thinks he cut them over it. Na, Na, I can't. 1:56:48.080 --> 1:56:54.600 I don't even know. I'm sorry, I ain't no comedia. 1:56:56.000 --> 1:56:58.520 I can't have this twice I had that last year. 1:56:58.640 --> 1:57:07.480 You ain't know what do you man? What I did? 1:57:08.000 --> 1:57:15.000 I don't even know if this is it's funny or not. 1:57:18.600 --> 1:57:21.160 A few years back, we abruptly lost its legendary m 1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:23.640 C and his loss affected us not just as fans, 1:57:23.960 --> 1:57:26.520 but as a family. We considered Prodigy a brother of ours, 1:57:27.080 --> 1:57:29.440 I mean, especially Nori, who had just seen him not 1:57:29.520 --> 1:57:32.800 too long ago before he passed away, and we regretted 1:57:32.880 --> 1:57:34.520 that we could never you know, we never had him 1:57:34.520 --> 1:57:38.080 on drink Champs. And to think, you know that Nori's journey, 1:57:38.880 --> 1:57:41.880 you know, a big part of that was helped through 1:57:42.040 --> 1:57:46.000 through through mob Deep and their legacy and what CNN 1:57:46.040 --> 1:57:48.080 did with l A l A and and all of that. 1:57:48.240 --> 1:57:51.240 So it really we felt that one. And and in 1:57:51.360 --> 1:57:54.520 these next few stories you'll hear from a fellow m 1:57:54.600 --> 1:57:57.960 C who was closest to Prodigy. It was his partner 1:57:58.040 --> 1:58:01.800 in rhyme, his producer, his friend. Here's having a mob 1:58:01.920 --> 1:58:12.080 deep um speaking on Prodigy. Yeah, so you know, y'all 1:58:12.200 --> 1:58:14.080 history is so crazy. So you were you and P 1:58:14.240 --> 1:58:19.720 because P is originally from Long Island, y'all connected. Queen 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:23.760 P is from originally from from what I know, he's 1:58:23.800 --> 1:58:28.680 from like Queen's and then his let sounds the best. 1:58:30.080 --> 1:58:33.640 Not only the liquor, but they provided the females because 1:58:33.920 --> 1:58:36.000 Having is here and he's a very special guest. He's 1:58:36.000 --> 1:58:39.200 a glassic guy and they gotta spat and kindle. They 1:58:39.240 --> 1:58:43.320 got a spot to Schwatson. I don't know to pronounced 1:58:43.320 --> 1:58:47.400 that that Yeah, sound like that sounds like orange but 1:58:47.640 --> 1:58:52.280 it is in Spanish. That and and Cutler Bay they 1:58:52.320 --> 1:58:55.800 got the licker. So happy whenever you are best buy liquers, man, 1:58:55.840 --> 1:58:58.560 what's the Instagram best buy liquors? Right? Is that what 1:58:58.640 --> 1:59:01.760 it is at best Buy liquors? Man? Definitely looking now 1:59:02.200 --> 1:59:06.560 so have man? You know, um, so you said, y'all, yeah, yeah, 1:59:06.560 --> 1:59:08.840 he's from Wising from that friend from that front. And 1:59:08.960 --> 1:59:11.280 when I met with the police, the police, this is 1:59:11.320 --> 1:59:13.200 not that's not a false along. Oh they kept it moving, 1:59:13.800 --> 1:59:15.960 it wanted to stop. It was weird. It was weird. 1:59:16.800 --> 1:59:19.720 It was weird. And we have we're not friend. Is 1:59:19.760 --> 1:59:22.240 the first time we haven't had police the second time 1:59:22.680 --> 1:59:30.880 that oh that wasn't here. We're not faking, We're not faking. 1:59:31.880 --> 1:59:36.320 That's what we had was when the police pulled at 1:59:36.360 --> 1:59:40.560 all all. So so you guys were wol age when 1:59:40.600 --> 1:59:43.680 you connected. When I first met Pa, y'all didn't say 1:59:43.760 --> 1:59:45.400 why y'all calling people? Come on and we don't know 1:59:46.040 --> 1:59:50.600 y're talking like families should. He was sure. But I 1:59:50.640 --> 1:59:52.880 met him when I was fifteen, right, I met him 1:59:53.480 --> 1:59:55.960 in on this high school whatever whatever. He used to 1:59:56.000 --> 1:59:59.160 have maggiy on and it was blond. You know what 1:59:59.200 --> 2:00:02.480 I'm saying. He didn't have back in the day's Kami 2:00:02.600 --> 2:00:07.040 used to st he had the whole thing. He used 2:00:07.080 --> 2:00:11.280 to call him to go to the challenge but with me, 2:00:12.360 --> 2:00:13.840 but he was, you know, he was the cool. Last 2:00:13.920 --> 2:00:16.840 look at what I'm saying that we connected and then 2:00:17.000 --> 2:00:20.000 so um when y'all met, was it instantly like yo, 2:00:21.000 --> 2:00:23.920 he told you he does music or like, how how 2:00:24.080 --> 2:00:26.600 was it initially first met, Like no, because we used 2:00:26.600 --> 2:00:28.120 to be Yeah, we used to be in the lunch 2:00:28.200 --> 2:00:30.320 room and they used to be freet Staling at the tables. 2:00:30.400 --> 2:00:31.800 He was one of them, is freet Staling, And I 2:00:31.920 --> 2:00:33.920 used to feast that blah blah blah blah. And then 2:00:34.560 --> 2:00:36.920 as soon as we met, it was like instant friends. 2:00:37.120 --> 2:00:39.600 Like instant friends, like instant you know what I mean. 2:00:39.840 --> 2:00:42.200 And and he was rapping at the time on because 2:00:42.240 --> 2:00:45.600 I heard, um, you wrote his first round. I mean 2:00:45.720 --> 2:00:47.760 he used to. He used to have his own rhymes 2:00:47.800 --> 2:00:49.600 and stuff like that. But you know when we got 2:00:49.680 --> 2:00:51.440 a deal and stuff like that. You know, I used 2:00:51.440 --> 2:00:55.920 to write and whatever. He didn't need it, but he 2:00:56.480 --> 2:01:03.840 first round. Ready over here on listen, Man, you're gonna loosen. 2:01:03.960 --> 2:01:07.080 You gotta keep drinking. You do you want to drink? Amanda, 2:01:07.120 --> 2:01:10.640 I look, I'm floss. Amanda is very pretty. She's on 2:01:10.760 --> 2:01:13.640 the podcast What Us. She's from Best Buy Liquors. You're 2:01:13.680 --> 2:01:16.360 trying to show off for you have, Yeah, we've never 2:01:16.680 --> 2:01:20.400 we never had this. We never had this best book 2:01:20.440 --> 2:01:24.080 at we're pulling all the stipe for you. Yeah, though, man, 2:01:24.120 --> 2:01:26.200 I love this show so listen, fathers, they just passed. 2:01:26.240 --> 2:01:28.760 How many? How many Bullstons you pay for in your life? 2:01:29.040 --> 2:01:33.360 How many it's not like you said, Boston's bush? How 2:01:33.360 --> 2:01:38.400 many bush for my life? Keep it real? Keep I 2:01:38.680 --> 2:01:41.600 say like too, because like like to, like to, I've 2:01:41.600 --> 2:01:43.440 gotta disagree with you. I gotta say how many like 2:01:44.720 --> 2:01:49.760 I just I just Although we're dedicating this episode um 2:01:49.880 --> 2:01:52.880 to those that we've lost in no ways, this too 2:01:53.960 --> 2:01:57.920 to bring down the mood. Drink Champs was created in 2:01:58.040 --> 2:02:01.840 a in a in good spirit to to enjoy life 2:02:01.880 --> 2:02:04.680 and celebrate life. And we've shared some hilarious stories on 2:02:04.800 --> 2:02:08.480 Drink Champs, but these next ones are some of the best. 2:02:09.000 --> 2:02:13.440 Check these out your backpack on if you Always Princess 2:02:13.520 --> 2:02:15.800 God to all of us as far as making music 2:02:15.880 --> 2:02:22.400 and art, music, creative coaches, finest broads ye and your 2:02:22.480 --> 2:02:26.240 first time meeting press when you first subscribed. Shout out 2:02:26.280 --> 2:02:28.640 to dj Q my wife, dj Q, I like, I 2:02:28.720 --> 2:02:30.800 like how you pick up your wife. God damn high fives, 2:02:31.160 --> 2:02:33.000 Hi five real ship. Let's make some noise for that 2:02:37.760 --> 2:02:42.560 l A right, she didn't stretch right and she she's 2:02:42.600 --> 2:02:45.960 a she's a world class famous DJ. And Prince got 2:02:46.040 --> 2:02:49.480 to liking her DJ skills. She became a lection wife 2:02:49.520 --> 2:02:52.120 work with Prince. This is not starting out. This is 2:02:52.160 --> 2:02:54.720 not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a 2:02:54.800 --> 2:02:57.320 jealous guy, Prince. You I listen, Prince, you gotta get 2:02:57.360 --> 2:02:59.840 the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma. 2:03:00.840 --> 2:03:07.240 I'm sorry, stop dold. No, she was DJ and his parties. 2:03:07.240 --> 2:03:09.520 You know what. And by this time when I met Prince, 2:03:09.600 --> 2:03:11.200 the first time met Prince was maybe a house of 2:03:11.240 --> 2:03:13.280 blues l a M. She was DJ. You know he 2:03:13.320 --> 2:03:16.040 did he float? Now, he didn't levitate to float. He didn't. 2:03:17.920 --> 2:03:20.760 He had a secon back. Prince. Prince knew his hip 2:03:20.800 --> 2:03:22.320 hop when I first met him. You know what I'm saying, 2:03:22.360 --> 2:03:24.040 Like he knew, but he knew certain type of hip 2:03:24.160 --> 2:03:27.000 he knew like Common. He like like Common. I am. 2:03:27.560 --> 2:03:29.520 And it was like he likes certain things into something. 2:03:29.720 --> 2:03:31.160 He like hip hop, and he like hip hop that 2:03:31.280 --> 2:03:34.520 was a little bit more like organic. I was saying, 2:03:34.640 --> 2:03:38.160 Like he liked like Lauren Hill, you know, like Common, 2:03:38.240 --> 2:03:41.000 Like he really liked Common a lot, Like he's a 2:03:41.040 --> 2:03:44.200 Common fan. He was saying, and and and Common is 2:03:44.200 --> 2:03:45.920 one of my favorite Common work with him at all. 2:03:46.040 --> 2:03:47.880 I don't know if common common might have worked. Prince. 2:03:47.960 --> 2:03:50.200 He like Erica, but I do a lot. You know 2:03:50.200 --> 2:03:54.080 what I'm saying, like Prince I met Yeah, I guess yeah. 2:03:54.200 --> 2:03:55.600 So when I met him, he said I like that. 2:03:55.680 --> 2:03:57.000 He said, like, I like that one. So you got 2:03:57.040 --> 2:03:59.120 hot thing? I was saying, I have, so will I 2:03:59.200 --> 2:04:01.160 am hot thing with him? Was on the hook and 2:04:01.600 --> 2:04:03.320 he liked he liked when I am a black eyed 2:04:03.360 --> 2:04:05.840 peas and that type of ship. Um. I started just 2:04:05.920 --> 2:04:07.880 hanging out doing parties. You know my wife, My wife 2:04:07.880 --> 2:04:10.280 would do parties. Prince were shot up at the parties. 2:04:10.360 --> 2:04:12.440 He was just short, hold on, how does this happen? 2:04:13.040 --> 2:04:16.160 Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks 2:04:16.200 --> 2:04:20.040 in the basketball like yeah, no, no, no, I'm starting 2:04:20.080 --> 2:04:23.160 the party. He walking the party. You know, I went 2:04:23.200 --> 2:04:25.520 to a party once in l A. What's that club 2:04:25.600 --> 2:04:28.600 that's across the street from the Beverly Center. The club 2:04:30.120 --> 2:04:34.400 that's the name is Prince walked in the club ended in. 2:04:34.520 --> 2:04:38.480 Prince kept a bunch of us in the club and 2:04:38.680 --> 2:04:41.440 at gunpoint, no, not a good point, but he's Prince. 2:04:41.800 --> 2:04:44.200 He just did to look almost gun point and everybody stayed. 2:04:46.000 --> 2:04:51.000 He put out a little bible Wait, Prince, he's he's 2:04:51.040 --> 2:04:55.280 in Jehovah's witness. Wait, and Jehovah's witness. They get down 2:04:55.360 --> 2:04:57.680 like that, they bring bibles. He started having Bible studies. 2:04:58.400 --> 2:05:02.560 You three, and morning was niggas drinking. There was no 2:05:02.680 --> 2:05:07.080 niggas there. It's only women and me because my wife 2:05:07.440 --> 2:05:09.120 DJ so I was the only nigga. And there was 2:05:09.200 --> 2:05:11.720 one other dude who was a boyfriend of one of 2:05:11.760 --> 2:05:14.520 the other girls. So it's Prince and me and this 2:05:14.680 --> 2:05:17.240 other dude. All right, don't pass that. This other niggas 2:05:17.280 --> 2:05:20.240 passing back to me. I got you this other dude, Prince. 2:05:21.120 --> 2:05:24.320 Prince was quoting, he's quoting the Bible, and this other 2:05:24.400 --> 2:05:27.480 dude trying to say something smart. And now this other 2:05:27.600 --> 2:05:30.560 dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay, he just 2:05:30.640 --> 2:05:33.200 happened to be there. He tried to say something and Prince, 2:05:33.240 --> 2:05:36.240 I'll never forget this. Prince said, Listen, Um, I know 2:05:36.560 --> 2:05:39.440 you think that you're saying something to add onto the conversation, 2:05:39.920 --> 2:05:41.680 but you really you know what I'm saying. From what 2:05:41.760 --> 2:05:43.040 you're saying, I can tell you don't know what you're 2:05:43.040 --> 2:05:46.160 talking about. So how about you just not participating? The 2:05:46.680 --> 2:05:50.800 Prince about the whipper Nigga asked, but I'm asking was 2:05:50.960 --> 2:05:53.920 He politely told him, you don't know the funk you're 2:05:53.920 --> 2:05:57.240 talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No, he did not. 2:05:57.640 --> 2:06:00.640 He did not. I've been. I've been several clubs and 2:06:00.680 --> 2:06:03.160 Princes had chuck keep his clothes, keep going on to 2:06:03.200 --> 2:06:06.480 sprint stories the club? Do you have been? The Zeni 2:06:06.880 --> 2:06:09.680 and I l A they used at the party called Zeni. 2:06:09.960 --> 2:06:12.040 They used to happen. I have Big Zini before because 2:06:12.840 --> 2:06:17.960 Big z at two o'clock in the morning, the clubs 2:06:18.000 --> 2:06:20.360 and l A clothes all right, yes, and then and 2:06:20.400 --> 2:06:22.200 then the dude used to have this party called Zeni. 2:06:22.440 --> 2:06:24.879 We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios. 2:06:24.960 --> 2:06:27.840 Jim Henson, right, and need to know these types of 2:06:27.840 --> 2:06:30.840 people I live, come on party when I'm bad. I know. Yeah, 2:06:31.080 --> 2:06:34.920 I'm hanging out with big Big Bird with Ernie and 2:06:35.040 --> 2:06:37.040 Bart and Bird and Ship. You know what I'm saying. 2:06:37.080 --> 2:06:39.040 But he's at these parties. But they used to bring 2:06:39.120 --> 2:06:41.360 the alcohol and they used to set up stay you 2:06:41.440 --> 2:06:43.960 just have go go dances and all the celebrities used 2:06:43.960 --> 2:06:48.080 to go, and all the basketball players and that's it. 2:06:49.440 --> 2:06:55.200 He's definitely. I was with l A prince called my 2:06:55.320 --> 2:06:57.000 wife and he said, wait, the party at and we 2:06:57.040 --> 2:07:00.240 said we had ZENI yeah, he said I'm coming. And 2:07:00.320 --> 2:07:02.200 this nigger just rolled up and told I had the 2:07:02.240 --> 2:07:06.200 privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen, I'm bringing Prince. 2:07:07.000 --> 2:07:09.600 I got a Justin Biebers story. When you finish, I'm 2:07:09.640 --> 2:07:12.600 bringing prince. How the hell is just prince going together? 2:07:12.640 --> 2:07:15.640 Because Justin Biebers said that what Prince hain't the only 2:07:15.680 --> 2:07:23.360 nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't remember that. This 2:07:23.520 --> 2:07:26.880 great hate when to be cut us all. Like the 2:07:29.200 --> 2:07:31.760 Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing and 2:07:31.840 --> 2:07:34.640 he said, this party is great, but why is she 2:07:34.760 --> 2:07:36.960 up there dancing with no clothes on? She was, he 2:07:37.000 --> 2:07:39.280 had clothes on, she things covered, But he said why 2:07:39.320 --> 2:07:40.800 She just said, they don't need to be that, you know, 2:07:40.800 --> 2:07:43.920 because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince. This is not 2:07:44.000 --> 2:07:47.520 the last dragon Prince, because this is not like, definitely 2:07:47.520 --> 2:07:54.360 not the Prince wild back in the days in the eighties, 2:07:54.400 --> 2:07:57.400 he was out of control. So I said, listen out. 2:07:57.480 --> 2:07:59.560 He asked me to introduce him to the party promoter. 2:07:59.600 --> 2:08:01.400 I introduce him, and he said. He explained to me. 2:08:01.600 --> 2:08:04.320 He said, listen to girls. They bring business people by drinks. 2:08:04.720 --> 2:08:07.760 Prince and let me talk to her. You're trying to convert. 2:08:07.920 --> 2:08:09.840 Let me talk to her. Need to hear this, saying 2:08:10.200 --> 2:08:12.320 the girl. He talked to the girl. The girl didn't 2:08:12.320 --> 2:08:16.640 know who Prince was. Same young chick, young chick dance 2:08:16.680 --> 2:08:18.520 in the club. She might have heard the name Prince. 2:08:19.280 --> 2:08:22.640 She didn't know. She's gonna die at night. This is 2:08:22.680 --> 2:08:28.400 a long time ago. The story, the old story. She turned. 2:08:30.360 --> 2:08:32.040 He said. He said, how much are they paying you 2:08:33.240 --> 2:08:35.760 to be in to dance with your clothes off? She 2:08:35.840 --> 2:08:37.880 said the number? He said, I'll pay you double to 2:08:37.960 --> 2:08:41.120 get down off that stage. Go home. Let's make the 2:08:41.200 --> 2:08:46.760 noise of it. Prints being a trick? Is that reverse pimper? 2:08:49.560 --> 2:08:53.040 Put your clothes on? Prince invented reverse pimping. She said, 2:08:53.040 --> 2:08:54.600 I'll take your money tonight, but what am I going 2:08:54.640 --> 2:08:57.640 to do tomorrow night? That's what this girl said to Prince. 2:08:58.000 --> 2:09:02.440 I want response. What was his? He said, I don't 2:09:02.480 --> 2:09:10.960 have no control for that. That's real that I got 2:09:12.280 --> 2:09:17.240 to why your motherfucker? I'm not gonna calla verbat him 2:09:19.520 --> 2:09:23.520 sounds he did say that. Beyond that, he basically explained 2:09:23.520 --> 2:09:25.040 to her. He was like, listen, I'm giving you an 2:09:25.040 --> 2:09:28.560 opportunity to make a different decision in your life. I'm saying. 2:09:28.560 --> 2:09:30.160 I watched him explain to this girl and talk to 2:09:30.200 --> 2:09:31.600 the girl, and I knew from the way that she 2:09:31.680 --> 2:09:34.000 was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy. 2:09:34.400 --> 2:09:37.200 She didn't understand. She was just like, Okay, yeah, Prince 2:09:37.280 --> 2:09:40.360 had an album covered with like three bitches button neked 2:09:40.400 --> 2:09:43.080 on top of him, maybe some dudes and everybody thought 2:09:43.120 --> 2:09:51.920 he was gay. He wasn't ready for your princess. Princes God, Yeah, 2:09:52.160 --> 2:09:55.640 he stuck to his guns and he understood every artist. 2:09:56.560 --> 2:09:58.800 And me and Nori, the fact that we even here 2:09:58.840 --> 2:10:04.040 doing drink champs can we talking about about we understand 2:10:04.080 --> 2:10:07.400 that every artists got contradictions nature of being an artist. 2:10:07.720 --> 2:10:11.560 It's true, Hirst One, the person that we revere is 2:10:11.600 --> 2:10:15.400 the most contradictory artists whatever, But we were That's part 2:10:15.440 --> 2:10:18.280 of being human, like you said, being because all human 2:10:18.320 --> 2:10:22.840 beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions amplified because people pay 2:10:22.920 --> 2:10:26.760 more attention. You say, everybody got contradictions. Artists, we just 2:10:27.000 --> 2:10:32.800 we create out of our contradiction, right, But Prince was 2:10:32.840 --> 2:10:36.960 like Jesus man, listen, we tell you something I've never liked. 2:10:37.120 --> 2:10:40.600 Billy Dee Williams transcended for me. Like, what I mean 2:10:40.720 --> 2:10:44.560 by that is like Billy Dee Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince 2:10:45.360 --> 2:10:48.360 and Michael Jackson was people who were like, you know, 2:10:48.440 --> 2:10:51.200 I grew up in a different you know, a different time, 2:10:51.280 --> 2:10:53.440 were like that. He did, Billy d Williamson, that's a 2:10:53.480 --> 2:10:57.760 good nig with Michael Jackson and Prince, and they said, 2:10:57.800 --> 2:11:01.320 Billy d those were certain people. You know, those are 2:11:01.400 --> 2:11:13.200 certain people. Yeah, drink, I'm still going in the secondary. 2:11:15.120 --> 2:11:18.000 That's a smooth din in my taste now. But you know, 2:11:18.200 --> 2:11:20.840 for those those those four individuals right there, those are 2:11:20.880 --> 2:11:23.000 the people who transcended life for me. There was the 2:11:23.040 --> 2:11:26.000 people that no, no, no, let's keep it over here. Yeah, 2:11:26.040 --> 2:11:28.720 let's keep it over here. So those are the people 2:11:28.760 --> 2:11:30.360 that transcend the life for me. What I mean by 2:11:30.440 --> 2:11:33.040 that is like, you know, as a black person growing 2:11:33.120 --> 2:11:36.040 up young in my life, I can't describe anybody else 2:11:36.120 --> 2:11:39.040 here or anybody in my life. It was like, those 2:11:39.080 --> 2:11:40.960 are the people that said, you can't do this, you 2:11:41.000 --> 2:11:42.680 can't do that, and they did it, and I was 2:11:42.720 --> 2:11:44.440 just like I always looked at them. It was like, 2:11:44.760 --> 2:11:47.040 I ain't I ain't gotta be like them, but I 2:11:47.200 --> 2:11:50.800 respect that what I'm saying. And that's why when I 2:11:50.920 --> 2:11:53.320 met with people like for Real, it was easy for 2:11:53.400 --> 2:11:56.200 me to say, I don't want to stand you, and 2:11:56.240 --> 2:11:59.440 I don't really I don't really get where you're going 2:11:59.560 --> 2:12:02.480 at Your music is fucking ba. How did you meet? 2:12:03.280 --> 2:12:09.160 That's how almost how I met for uh, we was 2:12:09.240 --> 2:12:13.520 in sound on sound studios. Everybody's to stake everybody suhould 2:12:13.520 --> 2:12:15.680 think Biggie was to be called at Daddy's house. Something 2:12:15.760 --> 2:12:20.200 happened at Daddy's house. I don't remember, but big rememborable moment. 2:12:20.520 --> 2:12:29.240 I'm good one. But another memorable one was when we 2:12:29.400 --> 2:12:32.360 was working on Murder music and we was in an 2:12:32.640 --> 2:12:36.360 Electric Lady right there on West ad for something like that. Yeah, yeah, 2:12:36.400 --> 2:12:38.240 you know, like then I had came back and one 2:12:38.280 --> 2:12:40.200 of my homebies, like in Prince's out there. I was like, 2:12:40.280 --> 2:12:42.080 get the funk out of here, so he went and 2:12:42.200 --> 2:12:53.400 got hold on. You want to tell me you met Prince? Yes, yeah, 2:12:53.640 --> 2:12:57.600 I've never been in the vicinity of the snake words. Yeah, 2:12:57.760 --> 2:12:59.640 I never and that's how I feel about Michael Jackson. 2:13:00.080 --> 2:13:02.360 So anyway, so we're in the studio. One of my 2:13:02.440 --> 2:13:04.440 homeboys was like, yo, Princess out there. I was like, 2:13:04.520 --> 2:13:06.440 get the funk out of here. He was like, hell yeah, 2:13:06.440 --> 2:13:10.280 I'll bring that again. Mad cool. He fucking brought Prince 2:13:10.400 --> 2:13:14.960 in the studio. Now I'm about this electric lady. Remember 2:13:15.000 --> 2:13:17.320 this is Jimmy Hendricks. Now I'm about this talk, I'm 2:13:17.320 --> 2:13:20.560 about this tour whatever. Prince is like this and he 2:13:20.680 --> 2:13:26.520 had he did he just know, he just had one 2:13:28.200 --> 2:13:32.760 on hills. So I was making so I was so 2:13:32.840 --> 2:13:35.680 I was making a beat and then I was like, 2:13:35.920 --> 2:13:40.240 holy shit, Prince like he just hung out at that point. Yeah, 2:13:40.320 --> 2:13:42.040 I was like, yo, is there anything I need to 2:13:42.080 --> 2:13:44.560 do to the beat? Because he's like hold on that. 2:13:44.640 --> 2:13:47.920 They got over the keyboard. He started swear to guard. 2:13:49.400 --> 2:13:55.480 He was that cool yoh yes, and I'm gonna beat 2:13:56.280 --> 2:13:58.480 and then snoop, I'm doing the beat and this record 2:13:58.560 --> 2:14:01.840 came out. It came out. Record is this It's called 2:14:02.160 --> 2:14:07.400 shall Now Kill? Listen to it? Oh my god, Prince. 2:14:10.760 --> 2:14:12.560 They probably walked away and say, don't give me credit. 2:14:13.320 --> 2:14:15.200 How do you play the key? Then Nigga walked down, 2:14:15.280 --> 2:14:18.040 didn't even say bye. How about dad credit? He was like, 2:14:28.040 --> 2:14:31.080 because producers live the elless Like like producers live the 2:14:31.160 --> 2:14:34.040 ellis life. Let's just keep it here. It's okay, no 2:14:34.280 --> 2:14:39.160 nosess life, right, I mean, because you guys not only 2:14:39.240 --> 2:14:41.920 get to make your own project, but you get to 2:14:42.000 --> 2:14:44.560 go out there like with with the Big We You 2:14:44.640 --> 2:14:47.280 wasn't there with Big Lady vocals? No, I wasn't there 2:14:47.320 --> 2:14:49.720 with Big Who was you there? Like the blown your 2:14:49.800 --> 2:14:52.640 way to lad your vocal lad? They vote of your beats, 2:14:54.720 --> 2:14:58.160 Little Kim and Foxy mm to go no no, no 2:14:58.880 --> 2:15:04.360 y no. But I saw them east time, you know 2:15:04.400 --> 2:15:06.560 what I'm saying, Like when I was gonna go Foxy, 2:15:06.600 --> 2:15:13.160 I've seen and last, but definitely not least, we celebrate 2:15:13.280 --> 2:15:16.400 the life of the legendary Big Pun. There's a lot 2:15:16.480 --> 2:15:18.520 of you already know, Nori and Fat Joe's shirt a 2:15:18.640 --> 2:15:21.800 very special friendship with Pun, So it's only right that 2:15:21.960 --> 2:15:24.000 we share some of these Big Punch stories told in 2:15:24.080 --> 2:15:26.720 our very first episode of Drink Chance with Fat Joe, 2:15:28.440 --> 2:15:30.920 you know. And then when he passed, My brother was 2:15:31.120 --> 2:15:34.160 number one, and I always maintained number two, So I 2:15:34.200 --> 2:15:36.520 always was cool being number two. So then when I 2:15:36.600 --> 2:15:39.440 started rapping and it's fat Joe and then I'll bring 2:15:39.560 --> 2:15:42.200 Pun in the game. And I realized that Pun is 2:15:42.200 --> 2:15:45.640 a hundred times better than me. I fell right into 2:15:45.760 --> 2:15:48.160 number two. I was like, yo, let's I'll hold it 2:15:48.280 --> 2:15:50.480 off for this thing. I ask you something that I 2:15:50.560 --> 2:15:53.760 always wondered. So you met Remy through Punt, Yes, sir, 2:15:54.000 --> 2:15:58.080 so so Punt had rem she is big puns artists. 2:15:58.080 --> 2:16:02.320 Because I remember Pun, I remember Fun. I was so jealous. 2:16:03.320 --> 2:16:05.720 I was so jealous because it wasn't too many cruise 2:16:05.800 --> 2:16:09.440 where you had a nigger as nice at Pun, and 2:16:09.520 --> 2:16:11.640 then you had a bitch there was like the nicest 2:16:11.720 --> 2:16:14.120 bitch in the game. So he was like, yo, twin, 2:16:14.160 --> 2:16:16.240 I want you to hear this girl I signed. I'm like, 2:16:16.360 --> 2:16:19.000 all right, so I see if she had the level vests, 2:16:19.040 --> 2:16:22.480 I can never forget that ship. And then she just 2:16:22.760 --> 2:16:25.520 went off for like ten minutes streets and that's what 2:16:25.640 --> 2:16:28.280 she was saying, I shoot the air bubble welt your 2:16:28.440 --> 2:16:33.760 sneakers and she was just going I was like, so jealous, man. 2:16:33.879 --> 2:16:36.680 I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my 2:16:36.840 --> 2:16:39.800 head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I 2:16:39.920 --> 2:16:44.280 didn find So then after she rocks punt hit muzeral twin. 2:16:44.440 --> 2:16:46.680 You know she your artist twin, Like you know, she 2:16:46.800 --> 2:16:49.440 signed to me, but we signed to you. He had 2:16:49.440 --> 2:16:51.760 a label. It was Terror Squad the whole time. But 2:16:52.280 --> 2:16:57.560 he discovered He say, yo, he signed it. He discovered her. 2:16:57.600 --> 2:17:02.200 But he's like, was kind. But I'm just saying I 2:17:02.280 --> 2:17:08.760 want to say, thank God. And uh, you know what, 2:17:08.879 --> 2:17:11.640 you did a deal with her after passed. No, no, 2:17:12.120 --> 2:17:16.840 pe was alive. We just we did the deal with her. 2:17:16.920 --> 2:17:20.840 But while Palem was alive. You know. You know, Come'm saying, 2:17:20.920 --> 2:17:23.520 most loyal realist in the world. We don't just say 2:17:23.600 --> 2:17:26.480 that because he's dead because some nigga's dad piece of ship. 2:17:27.560 --> 2:17:30.959 You know, Palem was one of the most loyalist niggers 2:17:31.000 --> 2:17:34.200 in the world. Most fun I mean, the way I 2:17:34.360 --> 2:17:37.320 say it is like, um, you know, I was the 2:17:37.400 --> 2:17:39.920 youngest kid in my house. You know what I'm saying. 2:17:39.959 --> 2:17:42.960 I never had a younger brother, So Palem was like 2:17:43.040 --> 2:17:44.880 the young brother I never had, and I was like 2:17:45.000 --> 2:17:49.440 the big brother he never had. And uh, immediately, you 2:17:49.520 --> 2:17:52.720 know what I'm saying, It's almost like a relationship. Um, 2:17:53.920 --> 2:17:57.040 you know, in order to make a marriage last. It's 2:17:57.040 --> 2:18:01.039 like you really got to sign it mentally and heart wise. 2:18:01.280 --> 2:18:05.080 You gotta really say you no matter what happens, I 2:18:05.240 --> 2:18:07.160 want to stay with this woman for the rest of 2:18:07.200 --> 2:18:11.840 my life and cut your hands for the academic Come on, Joe, 2:18:12.240 --> 2:18:18.959 you're I'm just saying, let's not. It's just like y'all, 2:18:19.440 --> 2:18:23.119 nobody's stopping this ship, right, And it's the same thing 2:18:23.720 --> 2:18:26.560 with like you know, with with me and pun. You know, 2:18:26.760 --> 2:18:28.600 after I heard him round for the first time, he 2:18:28.640 --> 2:18:31.520 sat in my car and he immediately I don't know 2:18:31.680 --> 2:18:34.920 how and why, but he was telling me ship. I 2:18:34.959 --> 2:18:38.920 wouldn't tell Nori now about myself, and that's my brother, 2:18:39.040 --> 2:18:41.000 Like I could go to war with Norri, like I 2:18:41.040 --> 2:18:43.600 would really kill for Nori, He'll kill for me. I 2:18:43.680 --> 2:18:45.760 would not tell him some person who ship in my 2:18:46.040 --> 2:18:49.080 family growing up and all that. So five minutes later, 2:18:49.120 --> 2:18:50.920 I'm riding with the nigga. This nig is telling me 2:18:51.000 --> 2:18:53.480 the deepest ship I ever heard of, and I'm sitting 2:18:53.520 --> 2:18:55.480 there with him. I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm 2:18:55.520 --> 2:18:57.840 a street nigga. I'm like, why is this naked telling 2:18:57.879 --> 2:19:00.240 me all this ship? Right? So I'm sitting in there 2:19:00.280 --> 2:19:03.000 like this, So I knew his life story. The first 2:19:03.080 --> 2:19:05.960 twenty minutes after I left them I met him, I 2:19:05.959 --> 2:19:08.560 already knew it, but let everybody asked you something because 2:19:08.560 --> 2:19:13.800 we were in and there like like like ta to right. 2:19:14.000 --> 2:19:16.880 Had jay Z's boy had brung me beyond that right 2:19:17.080 --> 2:19:21.280 and I had to joint bald equal And he said, Yo, 2:19:21.440 --> 2:19:24.480 she wants to do this recket. She wants to do 2:19:24.560 --> 2:19:28.959 it like Barbados and listen, check to check what I said. 2:19:29.400 --> 2:19:31.720 But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar 2:19:31.800 --> 2:19:35.400 budget at the time. I said no, Right, I said no, 2:19:36.040 --> 2:19:38.920 I passed on that. Did you know the minute you 2:19:39.040 --> 2:19:42.960 met Puny that this was the next dude? Or was 2:19:43.560 --> 2:19:46.760 it instant or like, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna 2:19:46.800 --> 2:19:52.720 be honest with you. Um, I know music probably more 2:19:52.760 --> 2:19:56.320 than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry wasn't 2:19:56.320 --> 2:19:58.880 scared of me for being such a gangster there, I 2:19:58.920 --> 2:20:02.640 would be the president everything. Nobody really know more than me. 2:20:03.120 --> 2:20:05.000 Every time they turned around and they give a nigga 2:20:05.000 --> 2:20:07.520 a new job, they I put it on blast. The 2:20:07.560 --> 2:20:10.720 minute they gave Joey president of the Scope, he picked 2:20:10.760 --> 2:20:12.720 the phone up, called me saying I learned everything from you, 2:20:12.840 --> 2:20:15.680 my brother. Please, you don't even understand everything. I know. 2:20:15.840 --> 2:20:19.119 It's because of you everything I like. Niggas get presidents 2:20:19.160 --> 2:20:22.080 and they studied you my whole life. You are the 2:20:22.200 --> 2:20:25.119 smartest nicking. But they're scared of me, so they won't 2:20:25.160 --> 2:20:27.680 give me that position. Don't know why because I'm the 2:20:27.760 --> 2:20:31.280 nicest nick in the world. Right, So when I met 2:20:31.440 --> 2:20:35.279 pun and the niggas started rapping, So alright, the scene 2:20:35.440 --> 2:20:37.560 is I told her a million times. I don't want 2:20:37.600 --> 2:20:39.640 to tell ship on your ship that I told everybody. 2:20:39.640 --> 2:20:42.280 But but I'm gonna just saying because were family, so 2:20:42.959 --> 2:20:45.120 I go. You know, I was one of the only 2:20:45.600 --> 2:20:48.160 him being another one too, so I can't start on him. 2:20:48.720 --> 2:20:52.440 But I'm one of the only rappers that actually was rich, 2:20:53.360 --> 2:20:57.280 actually was gold already and were still in my hood. 2:20:57.360 --> 2:21:00.960 Like I live in apartment five. Like literally, hold on, 2:21:01.120 --> 2:21:03.959 everybody better make noise for this. I am also from 2:21:03.959 --> 2:21:12.160 apartment five, So you know what's crazy? I studied hip hop. 2:21:12.680 --> 2:21:15.120 Jay Z was also from apartment five. What is that? 2:21:15.560 --> 2:21:20.400 What does that mean? We're we gotta break? He's from Miami? 2:21:20.520 --> 2:21:23.120 Now I know what literally what that means I'm saying, 2:21:23.200 --> 2:21:26.039 is there a hidden meaning behind no, we're gonna, You're gonna, 2:21:27.440 --> 2:21:33.000 You're not. You're gonna ask first. Let me also make 2:21:33.080 --> 2:21:35.480 some noise for my brother Kake. You know Ray Kawon's brother. 2:21:35.560 --> 2:21:41.880 He once hold happy birthday, Happy birthdays. I don't see it. Okay, okay, 2:21:42.160 --> 2:21:44.400 excuse me. Somebody get that man to drink. Somebody get 2:21:44.440 --> 2:21:47.680 that man to drink. We ain't got no brown, We 2:21:47.720 --> 2:21:50.680 ain't got no brown. Okay, okay, I know you called me, 2:21:50.760 --> 2:21:52.840 and I'll tell you I had it, but nobody never 2:21:52.959 --> 2:21:58.000 gave me my sneakers, my purple you first, wait, hold on, 2:21:58.200 --> 2:22:01.120 we got it. He told me I'm gonna pick it up. 2:22:02.720 --> 2:22:08.039 Could I still get him on the gone. Let's let's 2:22:08.040 --> 2:22:11.920 go straight. I'm glad you brought into hit. Are you 2:22:12.240 --> 2:22:20.400 the snaker king? Um? And if you are, you know 2:22:21.080 --> 2:22:23.920 I'm we're gonna end this on this, but part of 2:22:23.959 --> 2:22:26.280 the best Latina rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right 2:22:26.320 --> 2:22:30.640 the bottom real quick. When I when I heard when 2:22:30.680 --> 2:22:37.200 I heard him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It 2:22:37.400 --> 2:22:42.400 was mere God on the getting And okay, that's that's 2:22:42.440 --> 2:22:50.959 the first put that on a mixtape, my Mixtapeia. Let 2:22:51.040 --> 2:22:53.920 me tell you know, nobody had ever heard anything I 2:22:54.040 --> 2:22:56.640 put on the mixtape here in Miami, and I was like, 2:22:58.280 --> 2:23:02.160 dude is fucking killing it. But I didn't know who 2:23:02.280 --> 2:23:05.600 he was. I just but then I knew. I knew 2:23:05.680 --> 2:23:09.280 he was Latina. I was like, we got one. That's it, 2:23:10.920 --> 2:23:13.360 you know, that's it because be just so you know. 2:23:14.040 --> 2:23:18.080 At that same time, Big is my favorite rapper, thinking 2:23:18.120 --> 2:23:21.480 in the Craze crew that's my brother to my other 2:23:21.640 --> 2:23:24.119 favorite rap was a member of two crews with two 2:23:24.160 --> 2:23:32.160 of the greatest rappers the old times. That's that's That's 2:23:32.200 --> 2:23:36.480 where I'm like, this is it? Yeah, yeah, we got him, yea, 2:23:36.600 --> 2:23:41.520 I really it's just almost like Chin Chin angelsts him 2:23:41.560 --> 2:23:47.760 in Evangelists and then God, I know Putt was great. 2:23:48.920 --> 2:23:52.480 I didn't know he was the greatest until like after 2:23:54.280 --> 2:23:57.680 after his shriner. I remember me standing there and crying 2:23:57.760 --> 2:24:01.520 at the and God bless the dad. Flex flex Ts 2:24:01.640 --> 2:24:04.240 was the one who came and grabbed me because I 2:24:04.320 --> 2:24:06.199 didn't know what to do, Like I still started crying. 2:24:06.280 --> 2:24:09.440 My mother came to the keeping Real without me. My 2:24:09.600 --> 2:24:11.840 mom said, my mom's didn't wait for me to come. 2:24:11.959 --> 2:24:17.880 Mother with man from the boat danger like crazy. It 2:24:18.040 --> 2:24:21.800 was so crazy because the people who came to that funeral. 2:24:22.600 --> 2:24:25.360 You know, it was like crazy, man. Like it was 2:24:25.480 --> 2:24:30.080 like people that from our community that never even talk 2:24:30.200 --> 2:24:32.440 to us. Was like, you know, they were so proud 2:24:33.040 --> 2:24:35.600 they were showing up and you was like, yo, that's 2:24:35.680 --> 2:24:39.440 just my school teacher, you know. So I'm sitting there 2:24:39.560 --> 2:24:42.160 crying and I walked by my school teacher, come and 2:24:42.240 --> 2:24:45.640 grab me and like, yo, be strong. This is that 2:24:45.840 --> 2:24:48.200 like we touched so many niguas in the hood. It 2:24:48.320 --> 2:24:50.959 was crazy, but it was like that too. I never 2:24:51.040 --> 2:24:52.680 forget too. I was at one point, I was at 2:24:52.720 --> 2:24:56.760 point funeral and I was crying and uh, it was 2:24:56.879 --> 2:24:59.560 John Rule And I looked up and it was John 2:24:59.640 --> 2:25:03.520 Rule was there one deep too. He was like be strong, crack, 2:25:03.600 --> 2:25:06.760 don't worry, be strong. And that ship, that punch ship 2:25:06.920 --> 2:25:10.520 was serious man. And this is what I remember Flex 2:25:10.720 --> 2:25:13.879 grabbing me and just was like no, he's not suffering 2:25:13.959 --> 2:25:15.920 no more. And the crazy Yet I've never seen Pun 2:25:16.240 --> 2:25:19.680 suffer like when Pun, I know we can we're going 2:25:19.720 --> 2:25:21.560 too much, but we're gonna stop it soon. But when 2:25:21.640 --> 2:25:24.360 Pun used to half sleep apnea, like when he used 2:25:24.400 --> 2:25:26.600 to go like this, I used to think Pun was 2:25:26.640 --> 2:25:29.360 playing with me, Like God bless me because you know. 2:25:29.520 --> 2:25:31.600 Now I know, but back then, I used to like 2:25:31.720 --> 2:25:38.520 damn my fucking stories, just boring people like Yo, we 2:25:38.600 --> 2:25:43.920 would be talking like it was good. I'm like, ho, alright, 2:25:44.000 --> 2:25:49.640 let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh in a 2:25:49.760 --> 2:25:53.400 different way, in a special way. And the niggas used 2:25:53.440 --> 2:25:56.320 to hang out. They used to chill like we're still void, Joe. 2:25:56.440 --> 2:25:59.640 That's when Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like 2:25:59.760 --> 2:26:04.879 he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all 2:26:04.959 --> 2:26:07.520 he thinks about me and Pun. We wanted to have fun. 2:26:07.680 --> 2:26:10.199 We was younger. You know what I'm saying, Joe's olg. 2:26:10.480 --> 2:26:13.200 It's a fact because we used to be on the 2:26:13.360 --> 2:26:16.920 road everything like and Punning smoked weed. He drank cards 2:26:17.040 --> 2:26:20.720 like you know what I mean, Like this like just 2:26:20.879 --> 2:26:24.560 started drinking, like really, like you just started legally drinking 2:26:25.160 --> 2:26:30.039 like that. So serious. He was like like every day 2:26:30.160 --> 2:26:36.000 like this, I'll tell my son this to us and listen, bro, 2:26:36.879 --> 2:26:39.520 we was born with nothing, my niked and if we 2:26:39.640 --> 2:26:42.760 get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, nigga, 2:26:42.840 --> 2:26:45.040 let's just go get it. And we can't make it. 2:26:45.120 --> 2:26:48.280 We gotta go get this fucking money man, because all 2:26:48.320 --> 2:26:51.640 the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times 2:26:51.720 --> 2:26:53.920 all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give us a 2:26:54.000 --> 2:26:58.240 fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We Nigga's got 2:26:58.320 --> 2:27:00.640 a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries. 2:27:00.920 --> 2:27:02.960 Now nigg is just throwing this money at us, Like 2:27:03.040 --> 2:27:05.320 what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's go 2:27:05.520 --> 2:27:09.000 get this fucking money. And and and and and that's 2:27:09.200 --> 2:27:11.640 that's that's that's what I'm about right now. I'm in 2:27:11.720 --> 2:27:13.760 the car with my sun wrap. I'm in the car. 2:27:13.840 --> 2:27:16.560 One of my baked on him two minutes before I 2:27:16.680 --> 2:27:19.440 came here because he was like, yo, engineer, ain't really 2:27:19.560 --> 2:27:21.960 doing it right there. I'm like, nikking you fucking crazy, 2:27:22.600 --> 2:27:26.720 Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end it 2:27:26.800 --> 2:27:32.440 on this. Back in the days, you couldn't send the email. 2:27:32.840 --> 2:27:35.680 You have to run around with two tapes like this 2:27:36.160 --> 2:27:43.000 that she was like carrying a mitchet. Yeah it was Stow. 2:27:43.959 --> 2:27:46.520 I've never been to and this is my engineer right here. 2:27:46.560 --> 2:27:49.240 Has it it sounds I produce something, my friend, but 2:27:49.400 --> 2:27:52.400 has I have never had a session with you unless 2:27:52.400 --> 2:27:55.000 I did four records. Keep it real. I'm gonna look away, 2:27:55.200 --> 2:27:57.480 so like I'm not giving you know, fine, am I 2:27:57.640 --> 2:28:01.800 lying these four? At least four? Because you know why 2:28:02.040 --> 2:28:06.320 it's not because but back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars 2:28:06.400 --> 2:28:09.520 on the lockout or three thousand dollars on the lockout, 2:28:09.800 --> 2:28:13.760 I had to do yo on this ship. I'm keeping 2:28:13.800 --> 2:28:17.760 it real. Seeing then War Report album was done over 2:28:17.879 --> 2:28:20.600 two years, but it was only like five to seven 2:28:20.680 --> 2:28:26.080 sessions because we recalled it eight nine records. When we 2:28:26.160 --> 2:28:28.560 went in there and you know, tragedy put us on. 2:28:28.760 --> 2:28:31.959 He you had this wave, man, you your wave, it's 2:28:32.040 --> 2:28:36.040 like you know, special waves. But what it was, man, 2:28:36.200 --> 2:28:40.360 you could do whatever you wanted, nor nor you you're 2:28:40.440 --> 2:28:43.560 funny nigging. And then it's like it's like it was 2:28:43.720 --> 2:28:46.640 like maybe he was bugging out, but to us, it 2:28:46.760 --> 2:28:52.960 was like flows. We never heard righting thing. Thing I'm 2:28:54.720 --> 2:28:58.640 thing is saying this ship, you know what that came from? 2:28:58.720 --> 2:29:01.320 What was the joint you did? Um? And we gotta 2:29:01.360 --> 2:29:06.280 gotta go with you. What was the joint you did? 2:29:06.760 --> 2:29:11.600 I think it was in the firm. You know this leaving, 2:29:11.800 --> 2:29:15.440 I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I can get the story of 2:29:15.520 --> 2:29:18.000 that and then we break out. But listen, it goes 2:29:18.440 --> 2:29:21.480 that is that one Mike h Nor we know this, 2:29:22.240 --> 2:29:28.240 we know that, yeah, because I'm leave. Yeah. And it 2:29:28.360 --> 2:29:30.600 was another one you did for NAS, right, was it 2:29:30.760 --> 2:29:34.880 Nas or more Deep? It was blood Money, Blood Money, Money, 2:29:35.879 --> 2:29:38.640 the Money, the one when we did that during the 2:29:38.760 --> 2:29:42.080 Firm album. Um the Funnies Ship. I'm not gonna lie 2:29:42.120 --> 2:29:44.480 to you from the outside, and I don't know if 2:29:44.520 --> 2:29:46.640 you don't go ahead tell me you was like the 2:29:46.720 --> 2:29:50.240 illest nigger right there, like like right there when they 2:29:50.400 --> 2:29:52.720 snatched you up, because it was a big move for 2:29:52.840 --> 2:29:57.240 you and I. I had just shot nigger the projects too, 2:29:57.680 --> 2:29:59.800 and it was like and I kept hanging out there. 2:29:59.840 --> 2:30:01.720 They it was like what this thing is from the 2:30:01.800 --> 2:30:08.080 left cracking left Brack left money minutes and I kept 2:30:08.120 --> 2:30:10.840 hanging out and I gotta I gotta give the love 2:30:10.920 --> 2:30:13.600 the Jungle. Jungle was the dude like Jungle was like, 2:30:13.720 --> 2:30:15.800 we're fucking want him, we want to shoot up you 2:30:15.840 --> 2:30:23.519 know what I mean. But what I'm saying is they 2:30:23.640 --> 2:30:28.120 recruited you and you was just like it was so ill. 2:30:28.480 --> 2:30:30.480 I was just like and you know, and you know 2:30:30.640 --> 2:30:33.960 from them my very first feature, my very first feature 2:30:34.080 --> 2:30:37.280 after that was the Punt the record, my very first 2:30:37.360 --> 2:30:41.560 feature after that, I mean put in punt Um. You know, 2:30:41.760 --> 2:30:43.960 Punt's first words he ever said to me? What he said? 2:30:44.040 --> 2:30:46.400 He said because I was it was in a session, 2:30:46.440 --> 2:30:48.200 the first this is the first words you ever said 2:30:48.240 --> 2:30:51.680 to me. This is the first words you ever said 2:30:51.720 --> 2:30:54.400 to me. You said, y'all cnn, huh. He woke this 2:30:54.560 --> 2:30:59.680 unique studio, unique studios, thinking walks and the punt wasn't 2:31:00.000 --> 2:31:03.320 He goes, y'all seeing there? Huh. I'm like, you said, 2:31:03.800 --> 2:31:06.520 which one of your niggas got shot? And then Palm 2:31:06.680 --> 2:31:09.720 raised his hand and then y'all start keep hearing gunshot 2:31:09.879 --> 2:31:12.520 rooms and ship. I was like, this is very awkward 2:31:15.480 --> 2:31:18.160 home shows and ship. Then and then he goes, which 2:31:18.160 --> 2:31:20.720 one of yours Puerto Weekend? And I raised my hand 2:31:20.879 --> 2:31:23.360 and this is this is one hundred said facts. I 2:31:23.480 --> 2:31:26.000 was just like, because I've never met these nis, I 2:31:26.120 --> 2:31:27.760 love this nigga, but I don't want em to think 2:31:27.760 --> 2:31:30.360 I'm a sucker. He just walked in my studios. Actually 2:31:30.440 --> 2:31:33.000 Blue told you to walk over right. Buck Wild is 2:31:33.000 --> 2:31:36.600 doing the beat. Maybe we buck Wild and then Plank 2:31:36.680 --> 2:31:38.800 goes to me. He goes, yo, you bought the weekend 2:31:39.080 --> 2:31:42.400 and I go, yeah, he goes, so wipe the ice 2:31:42.520 --> 2:31:48.640 crilled off ba ba because we're gonna be friends. And 2:31:48.840 --> 2:31:51.440 from that moment, you know, the nigga made me laugh. 2:31:54.440 --> 2:31:59.680 I was racist from that moment and it was some 2:31:59.760 --> 2:32:01.360 of the ask people I have a mat man, Joe. 2:32:01.440 --> 2:32:04.160 I really appreciate you. You've never left me. You know, 2:32:04.680 --> 2:32:14.280 you've always been there for me. Is his birthday? Happy birthday, brother, 2:32:14.800 --> 2:32:20.480 but Ray Kwan the chef before you leave Top three 2:32:20.800 --> 2:32:25.400 friends again on behalf of myself and Nori. Thank you 2:32:25.480 --> 2:32:28.000 for listening to this Memorial Day episode of Drink Champs. 2:32:28.320 --> 2:32:31.080 We hope you enjoyed reliving these moments with us. Stay 2:32:31.160 --> 2:32:34.920 tuned as we'll be releasing new episodes weekly until then, 2:32:35.240 --> 2:32:38.240 Keep those drinks on ice, rest those delivers, and get 2:32:38.320 --> 2:32:41.560 ready to make some motherfucking noise special. Shout out to 2:32:41.680 --> 2:32:43.800 all the guests that we've had on Drink Champs for 2:32:43.879 --> 2:32:46.959 these past couple of years, few years. I mean, without them, 2:32:47.440 --> 2:32:49.160 we wouldn't be here. If you know, those guests is 2:32:49.200 --> 2:32:52.280 what what make it special. They come to on the 2:32:52.320 --> 2:32:55.040 show and they have fun with us, and that's what counts. 2:32:55.040 --> 2:32:56.560 At the end of the day. We're here to have fun, 2:32:56.959 --> 2:33:00.600 to celebrate life and keep it motherfucking even. Shout out 2:33:00.640 --> 2:33:03.800 to the Drink Champs crew, the Drink Champs Army, crazyhood crew, 2:33:04.000 --> 2:33:08.039 maintainment crew sucked out everybody out there shots. My boy 2:33:08.120 --> 2:33:11.440 j Havan, who helped put this together has it as sounds. Man. 2:33:11.520 --> 2:33:12.880 Let's get out of here, man. Make sure you check 2:33:12.959 --> 2:33:16.360 us out at www dot drink Champs dot com and 2:33:16.520 --> 2:33:20.040 at drink Champs on all your social platforms. D J E. 2:33:20.200 --> 2:33:22.400 F FEN and the War we out of here. Peace 2:34:00.120 --> 2:34:19.760 assists us assist