1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Here at drink Champs, we honor and respect our veterans 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: who have bravely served and continue to serve our country, 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: especially those we have lost. On this Memorial Day, our 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: thoughts are with our service men and women, as well 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: as the military families who have paid the ultimate sacrifice. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Happy Memorial Day from the drink Champs family and his 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Drinks Motherfucking Podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rappers, he's your boy, 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: he's a Miami hippop pioneer, one of his dj e 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: f N. Together they drink it up with some of 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: yet number one source for drunk New Years Time for 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: drink Champs Drink up on the Yet What Up? This 13 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: is d j e f FEN and we want to 14 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: thank everyone that's been supporting us. Although we haven't been 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: releasing episodes, I promise you we've been busy recording them. 16 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: We're long overdue for some hangovers, so in the next 17 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, prepared to take those drinks off the ice, 18 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: fill up your cups, and get ready to make some 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: motherfucking noise as we'll be back with Tiger Bones shots, 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: which I'm not looking forward to drunk facts and weekly releases, 21 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: but in the meantime, to help celebrate this Memorial Day, 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: we created a very special episode for the Drink Champs Army. 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: In this episode, you'll hear classics stories of some of 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: the legendary artists we've lost, stories of Tupac, Biggie, Prodigy 25 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: and Prince, some of our favorite moments with the legendary 26 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Combat Jack and John Singleton, maybe the rest in Peace. 27 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: You'll hear stories told from some of your favorite artists 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: like DMX, Havoc of Mob Deep E forty Snoop Dogg, 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Top Quality, Uncle Luke, and more so on behalf of 30 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Myself and Nori a k a. The Drink Champs. Much 31 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: love to the Drink Champs Army. We hope you enjoyed 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: the special Memorial Day episode. Let's just get right into it. 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with these classic Tupac stories and your 34 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: hats man queue that up. Motherfucker's let's make some motherfucking 35 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: nor let's go. Everybody was in the sale, his billboard 36 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: was cut out in the sale. He wasn't even on 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: there for or talked about being on Therefore, we just 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: did that as a symbolar representing him and fucking with 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: him because he was my friend. So that was, you know, 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: a play that I did to put him in there 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: to represent it. Wait, so you're saying he was your 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: friends saying I'm the reason why he was on that phone. Yeah, 43 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: that he was my friend and my thing was speaking 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: with Sugar because after he had got shot, I had 45 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: flew to New York like the next day, and it 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: was like ship was going bad for him and he 47 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: had got locked up, and I was, man, should we 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: need to put that nigga with us? Because how far 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: back is y'all? Spencer Uh Poetic Justice Rap Party was 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: the first night I met him, and then we became friends. 51 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: And actually MC breed Rest in Peace was was trying 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to buy some dope and I knew the nigga. That 53 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: knew the nigga, So Breede got some dope for me 54 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: and DC and Breede was cool and Tupac and that's 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: how we all became like a circle of friends. Crazy 56 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: believe it, this is crazy. Ain't gonna lie. I ain't 57 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I got so so a hip hop mode 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: fans just now. I was just saying, I'm a guy. 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I was I was supposed to ask a question at 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: this point, Like I was just sitting there like I'm 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: just thinking, like so um, all right, boom that Pop 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: comes here, He's already there, y'all already doing what he's doing. 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: These these records come out, these records, these records. Let 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: me tell you this, so you know, all lives on me. 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: When he gets out, I'm working on the dog Fothering. 66 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: So when he get out, my cousin Dads is like 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: my number one supply because Drake dre basically like not 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: really giving up music because I think he on his 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: way out, but we already going thanks for doing in 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: the bathroom. So so we're working on my record. So 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: when he get out, naturally, I tell Dad's in the 72 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: whole crew pod getting out, y'all throw cuzz all of 73 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: the music, get him right first. So he ended up 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: getting all this hot music because we was in the 75 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: process of doing Hot Ship. And then Pop brought a 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: spirit to the studio that was different than anybody we 77 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: ever worked with. He had a work spirit that was 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: like this nigga could be in three different rooms at 79 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: one time and making music and he would he would 80 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: never listen to it. Like we was always we would 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: we learned this from Dr Dre. We would make a song, 82 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: we would listen to that motherfucker for a whole month. 83 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: I mean just back to back, thirty days just listening 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: to the same goddamn song, party and inviting bitches over 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: off the sun had even about yeah and then never 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: come out. Nigga. Tupac was like, Nigga, when we make 87 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: a song, when we finish it, when you're listening to 88 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: that ship, pull another beat up. We're doing another motherfucking song. 89 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: You can mix that motherfucking when you finished, we'll listen 90 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: to it. He was never about like even when we 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: made one song, motherfucker the last verse, I'd be like, 92 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: all right, playing bad. We played it down from top 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: to bottom. As soon as that motherfucker cut off, all right, 94 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: give it to the engineer, pull the next beat up. 95 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Never did we listen to a song twice with that nigga. 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: That's something that I learned from him that I take 97 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: with me today because I wasn't like that. I was. 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: I learned from Dr Dre. I learned from my teacher. 99 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: They taught me exactly. But Pop was on something like 100 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Nigga fun that we're going, We're going, We're going, We're going. 101 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: How are you thinking? They made three albums and motherfucking 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: ship six months. That's Gemini, by the way, that's geminism, 103 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: a Gemini. But I'm a labor all right, what's all? 104 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: We can know yourself, virgo, I'm a virgo. I don't 105 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: know if it means anything for this makes a noise 106 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: for the sign that snoop listening, listen Snoop. I can't. 107 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: I can't thank you so much. We're gonna, we gotta, 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: we gotta go the ball. I'm not telling all actually 109 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: do what I want to a mid interview. I just 110 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: want to thank you because you know what, it's the 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: first time artists like you know what I'm saying, Like 112 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: you know it's running media right now, like right now 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: we are running in DJ and DJ. I'm sorry when 114 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: I say I represent the motherfucking DJ. That's right, that's right. 115 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: You always gotta have a meskin around you. You listen, 116 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: everybody's from l A. You always. I'm from l A too. Yeah, 117 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: sound it's same ship. I'm originally say you always gotta 118 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: kid and you know what, Pete Allas Dodge and the 119 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker you know what I'm saying, and it's the first 120 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: time you know, you know we got you got g 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: G in Yeah, So now do you I'm alway g 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: g M when you're not there because we're gonna be 123 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: in l A August Can I co host GM? Can 124 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: we yes? Well cold because we're gonna be in the 125 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: l A August twenty seven? So she don't do that. 126 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: She's a movie star. Bitch ry pockets on that front. 127 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: There he out so the bitches in hooplat because everybody 128 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: wants to meet my nigger. You understand me, and you 129 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: know I ain't no motherfucking hater. I don't know how 130 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: to block I get out the white. So the bitch 131 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: like you understand me, I would love to meet tupocket. 132 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: That's all right with you. I'm like, bit just gonna 133 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: always be all right? Now what were okay? Can listen? 134 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: All the stars is at So now one night I'm 135 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: in the club and uh, the bitch is there, and 136 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: POX see the bit She like, man, I don't want 137 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: to meet that bitch. Man, I say, hey, man, that's 138 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: exactly how he described the bitch. That's my bit. I'll 139 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: kindly introduce you to I walks over to him right 140 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: and say, bitch, this is a Tupac Tupac meet the bit. 141 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: So you know, after he meets a bit, you know, 142 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: I walks off because you know, it ain't my job 143 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: to stand there and see if they're gonna talk and 144 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: kiss or whatnot, not take a biture. I walks off 145 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: like a real player. I guess the exchange numbers. I 146 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: don't know, so you haven't stand me. A few weeks later, 147 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, slide by and go see her, 148 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: because you know, she's a slide piece to me. So 149 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to go see it on a late night 150 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: like I normally do. You don't leave that back door 151 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: open and I'm like, what what's in it? I'm finished 152 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: slide through, you know what I'm saying. Lead that back 153 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: there's open, and the bitch hit me with I don't 154 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: think Pap would like that. This girl was BA for 155 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the record, right for the record. This girl we told 156 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: about for real? That's what the bit for real? Madonna? 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: Now that was Hey, that was Madonna. That look the 158 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: nigga nigga that is. You don't think I'm making this 159 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: ship up. I'm doing Saturday night lod in New York, 160 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: they get documented nigga. When I had that Tommy hell 161 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: figure shirt on the red, white and blue one, blew 162 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: the motherfuck up. The shirt sold like a motherfucker right. 163 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: So the nigga pot come and see me here in 164 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: New York. He bring me some weed and he come 165 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: backstage with the bitch Madonna Madonna for real, for real, 166 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: about to feel like was he man? He brought the 167 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: bitch just Saturday night. He d he was knocking the 168 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: bitch man because he brought me some blood. Man, he 169 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: had the bitch on his own. Man, and he wasn't 170 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: even like floss from the bitch. He had him right here. 171 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: Tupac and Big Daddy came other way around. Tupac hand Madonna, 172 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: man cut down. This is this is this is the 173 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: park in the So how did you feel a lot 174 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: of people when when park passed and then you came 175 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: to the scene, A lot of compared the compares. Then 176 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: when he got no, they compared, how did you feels 177 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: to that comparison? Some people get a fire. I should 178 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: correct people as plainly as it could, Like the next part, 179 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: I'm like no, I'm the first ax. They would say 180 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: that great great say Thatt say that you know the 181 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: next like no, I'm not the next anything, I'm the 182 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: first and then and and it's pretty good. Um. Um. 183 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Actually had a chance to see Pop walking. He said that, 184 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: Oh my god mine so on Hamm and Hamm and 185 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Hammon way off sunset and l that hotel look good 186 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: And I saw him. It was a cool dude. He 187 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: is cool. I said six, Oh wow, wow, you met 188 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: real pop. Yeah right now, maybe you happy everybody dray 189 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: boarders out there. Um he walked past. I see him. 190 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: My man said, what up? What up? What up? Cool dude? 191 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: You know? But I think I think I don't know 192 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: what and and and and and and speaking as favorably 193 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: as I can be, said one who was past. So 194 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: someone who can't defend himself, I think, um, part of 195 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: the problem, a big part of the problem was he 196 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: didn't have what New York niggas got like uh uh 197 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: from the office is my black bam. He had no one, 198 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: He didn't have his crew. So one thing, you, yord nigga, 199 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: I know for factors, you don't go to Cali and 200 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: live there without like like having the goosepout like oh me, 201 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: you could be the hardest thing in the world. But dude, 202 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: don't go way over there without no one ever knew 203 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: where he was from, where you from, with no avenue 204 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: him from Oakland. He lived in Oakland, we lived. But 205 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: where you're from somewhere you got to get that grew 206 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: up with you, that had your back, that loved you 207 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: since you was in kiddygard. I mean that fund with 208 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: you for real and won't let you. 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Because he was already cool with you 246 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and he was like rich. I mean, 247 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: he say, folty man Pop, want me to give you 248 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: someumbing you want to funk what you may gave me? 249 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: His number were connected there since then it was it 250 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: was all love so um, y'all connected, and then like 251 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: how many records y'all did they go? Let's see, Um, 252 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I got I got an unreleased track that ain't that 253 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: we're working on right now. And then um we did 254 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: working on. You're still talking to him? Um, yeah, yeah, 255 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: I was saying, that's that we're working on now. I'm 256 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: like I was talking, you know, because people still drinking 257 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot. He was really don't hit me the other day. 258 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: He was a lot man. But I don't say he 259 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: should appear Standford the Suckers ship, that's right, now make it. 260 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: What's the south of water? What's the south of water that? 261 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: What's the south of water? You don't need that that 262 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: you drink this beer, you don't need that. So yeah, yeah, 263 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: we called it mad Records together and we asked Uncle 264 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Luke this, I think we asked Snoop this, um, But 265 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: what was the park that you you you enjoyed more 266 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: the pot? And Luke had an interesting take on rolling 267 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Hennessey drinking. But that before he was the same with 268 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: me at every time. You know what I'm saying. You 269 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was all love. Man. If 270 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: he funk with you, he fucked with you. If you 271 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: don't funk with you, he'd call you out here, say 272 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: your name and anything. That's what That's what he specialized in. 273 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: He going, he say funk that I'm saying names, ain't 274 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: none of that. Yes me this and ship you feel me? 275 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: So I had to give it to him on that. 276 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: But he had a reason for all the ship he 277 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: you know he was he was saying, he wasn't crazy. 278 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: He wasn't crazy. Brilliant. So what's your favorite, tuopoc? Maybe 279 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: you tell me your favorite your favorite time being around? 280 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: I got a few, but I know you'll probably see 281 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: it on on YouTube. In nine three, we had my 282 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: practice looking hard video shoot and Het there through the 283 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: whole video like this, you know, just you know, you know, 284 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: he had that middle aude fuck you. But the thing 285 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: isn't that he showed motherfucker's how this one blunts wasn't 286 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: really y'all have been fucking with blunt New York, you know, 287 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: because my partner from New Jersey, when I was at 288 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: Grandma State University night to Fall eight, six eighty seven, 289 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: he uh, this motherfucker take a Philly blunt, and the 290 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: way he did it it was it was the full blunt, 291 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he had gout it. 292 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: He had just take all the ship out of it 293 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: and then stuff it with some booble weed, right just 294 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: because that's all we had at Graham some booble with 295 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: stuff that motherfucking and and tie the end up like that, 296 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, win it up, and that's 297 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: how they did it. Back that that was the That's 298 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: the first time I've seen a blunt roll so pop, 299 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying here on and my video shooting, 300 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: he's sitting on the little bench. We I'm over there 301 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: smoking a beating. I don't know if y'all know what 302 00:17:51,960 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: sot A lot of balls back here over the world. 303 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: He he got, I'm Strong is doing this bad Boy mixtape. 304 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: Remember you remember it was the Bad Boys. I don't remember. Yeah, 305 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: this is what this, this is what is originally for. 306 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: So so it was a freestyle in a sense and 307 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: in the sense it was a freestyle. So um. That 308 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: day a dude named Chaz from my hood. I remember 309 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: he was the flying snigger from my hood. But he 310 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: was the craziest snigger. Right. So, so chads this outside 311 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: like he confused. He playing me New York, New York. 312 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you think they're this on us? So 313 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I go to Queensbridge right 314 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: to meet up. We happened to, you know, be there 315 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: and stretch on. Strong calls and says, let's come to 316 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: the studio. So you had I think you had the 317 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: Turkquoise blazer. Yes I did. Yeah, I read a little 318 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: good the Turkoise blazes that that that the listen just 319 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: in case y'all thinking about blazer out back then, A 320 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: blazer was like a memory. I can't tell you what 321 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: happened yesterday, but I can tell you. Come up. I 322 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: remember this. So everybody we met at stretched on Strong's 323 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: crib and um, I think back then, having had already 324 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: gave us beat, but we ain't put nothing now but 325 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: the originals on the original Dog Pound beat. So this 326 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: is what happened, I stretched, Black. Yeah, I think we 327 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: had already did so what no no, no, no no 328 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: no no. So what happened is this is l A 329 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: l A. So what happened? Um, stretch, I said, the stretch? Yo. 330 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: I remember Chas had just played me this, so I 331 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: asked him he was on something called a DJ list 332 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: back then, back in the days, you could send somebody 333 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: a record and two months in advance and your ship 334 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't be bootlegs. You know what I'm saying, Because if 335 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: he was on a DJ list, it was just so 336 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: I asked Stressed to pull it up. We heard New 337 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: York when we couldn't determine if they were dissing us 338 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: or not, So technically we didn't dis them. We just rhymed. 339 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Correct the video I always always, but I remember it 340 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: was Prodigies verse. They took it because he said, Um, 341 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: he said JFK on our way to l A M 342 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: M and remember remember, and then he used that on 343 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: y'all album later, But the original L A L A 344 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: were all five of us. Prodigy said, n y C, 345 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: you and our verse supremacy, Havoc and pret queens Nigga, 346 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: so it's seemed to be Mega got word back from Noriega. 347 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: And that was on original L A l A. Oh, 348 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna break it down. He did that on right, 349 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on somewhere else. No, it versus somewhere else, 350 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: but it was originally on L A l A. He 351 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: took it off. And when he took it off, we 352 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: remember we're calling Steve Riffis. Steve looking was like, no, 353 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a part of this. Yeah, 354 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't even make a noise to happen. 355 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Who I didn't You stayed a part of yah makes 356 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: a noise to happen? Say it. But from what I heard, now, 357 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: I never heard this from Prodigy or or Steve Rifkin myself, 358 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: but from what I heard, Steve Riffers said, Prodigy, you 359 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. And then the first came 360 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: off the week that the day that we shot the 361 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: video is the day it came out, and you was 362 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: only supposed to come to the video, and then Prodigy 363 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: showed that he was there. He was in the video. 364 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right because it was it was so 365 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: he did his first in the video. No, no, it 366 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: was like he was just like l A l A 367 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: big city. Yeah right, but you're saying it wasn't a 368 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: distract who said that? No? No, But then because that 369 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: intro was this no yeah yeah yeah that that was replaced. 370 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: But but we heard it. We all heard it. But 371 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: then that sound like live nigga rack, that was it. 372 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Then he that's when he used that person. That's when 373 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: he used that person. But originally and then here's my question, 374 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: is Tupac came at y'all you know this is my record? 375 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: Did you have at one point when it's be like yeah, 376 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: that's question. But I didn't give a fuck because I 377 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: was like, because what did you do? Um? What was 378 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: the record? I loved the racket. It just dropped it 379 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: too late when you went back and dropped the gym on. 380 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I didn't kid because I was like, Yo, 381 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: this nigga. Tupac then from Juice, you know, what I'm saying, 382 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: like saying that name. So I was like, fuck, like, 383 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: who gives the fuck? You know what I'm saying, Because 384 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: we got like a hundred queensman, well fucking kill you. 385 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: But I love But did you did you realize how 386 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: beef that I mean, how big that it was? Like 387 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: like it was, it was huge, Like for Tupac to 388 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: dis you, it's like you you go platinum or something like, 389 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm keeping it real. That's how I think was it 390 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: was the original, but I wanted to everything. I was 391 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: like you, But then I thought about I said, I 392 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: was super broke at that moment, so I couldn't have 393 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: thought no Tupac beaf, but they came. It's a fact 394 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: one nigga. Like at one point on one arm, I 395 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: was mad that he just then other arm, I was like, 396 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: holy ship, I white my sweat, but y'all went back. 397 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: I didn't give him, you didn't give drop with gym, 398 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: and we did drop a gym on it because I 399 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: because I always thought that like, even if we did 400 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: see each other, it was gonna be like whatever, it 401 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be the real ship, you know what I mean. 402 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: We come from the hood, so the real ship is 403 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: in the hood and these other niggas is rapids. You know, 404 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: this is real ship right there. It's real ship. You know. 405 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: The fans and the people wanted to notice l A story. 406 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: This is dope. Like when you my radio when the 407 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: l A l A Ship was out. Believe me, we 408 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: was going to l A under aliases, like when we 409 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: couldn't just because Biggie got killed. Remember this time, that's 410 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: true this time. What's the chronological order of that? Though? 411 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: So when L A A came out? What years after 412 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: ninety six? Right, and Biggie had died? When ninety six? No, no, 413 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: not Google Google because the record because diverse Biggie. No, no, no, 414 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: we need the Google. So this is way before Big Been, 415 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: Biggie and Pop die right, Yeah, Big for sure was 416 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: the ninety seven alright six months later. Yeah, so there's 417 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: still ninety seven. But still what you said you went 418 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: alias names. All I know is I remember like when 419 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: all of that, when all of that stuff was going down, 420 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: it was the East Coast, West Coast beach. Somebody probably 421 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: didn't even die yet, you understand what I'm saying. So 422 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: when they did die, you understand, it was like, Okay, 423 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: bulletproof cause names under alias is. But California is a 424 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: market that you have to be in just sell records. 425 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: It's like a huge market and it's one of our 426 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: number one markets to this day. You understand what I'm saying, 427 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you can agree. I love California. I'm 428 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: out there, I got it. I got a crib about this. 429 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, make some noise for havoc flaws. 430 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: Having your old storm, nick, I just teach you. You 431 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: have it rolled up in a yellow cab. Let's make 432 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: some noise for that nigga. You gotta that's some old 433 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: school because because because my Uber account was compromised the 434 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: way you know, so when I used my Uba, somebody knows. 435 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: You have to explain this because I want to watch 436 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: out for this. I don't even want to explain it. 437 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: But somebody knows. I'm using computers one day. One time 438 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: you got tapped, right, they said that you said ship 439 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: like you're not good with computers. You need to keep 440 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: the original. That's that's a segue, like you ain't sing up. Yeah, yeah, 441 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: what's those messages true? Like let's just keep it real. 442 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: That's just don't matter. If you seen the messages I 443 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: send the compone ship. It's so good. It's the same ship. 444 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: It might not you went a little too far. I 445 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: did call them a fact and all that you were 446 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: a little too far. Don't come down there with the 447 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: shoot heavy dal with there was a shoot, was heavy. 448 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: He was involved like he he wasn't shooting, but he was. 449 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: Now in your opinion, you both knowing Pocket and Big, 450 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: there's very few people who know Pocket and Big. There's 451 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: people who know Pop great, and of people who know 452 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: Big a little bit, people who know Big a lot, 453 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: people who know Pop a little bit. But you know 454 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: them both for them, do you think they could have 455 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: ever squashed that? Like yeah, I mean on the People 456 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: Show when Pop got out of jail, I Pop, then 457 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: I would an interview Biggie, and then through the interviewing 458 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: process of it, it was more like I was interviewing them, 459 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: but I was like Nigga chilling funk out, you know. 460 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: So it was more of me having a conversation with 461 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: them about chilling fun out. You too, Motherucker's need to 462 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: make money. This ship is about money, y'all taking this 463 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: too to the extreme, because you know, I was in St. 464 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: Louis doing a show with Big and Big out there. 465 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: You know, motherfucker's they wanted did this Pop on stage 466 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: and they were boring. You know, I'm I'm sitting up 467 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: there like you know, I'm like, okay, you know the 468 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: mediator and the whole ship, like and Big when this 469 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: so then I when I interviewed, uh when when I 470 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: interviewed pop Pop was just going crazy, you know, oh yeah, 471 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, this girl and did this and and then 472 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: that and all this, And I'm like, so when interview 473 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: over there looking at man, you need to chill the 474 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: funk out, you know what I'm saying. You know, so 475 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: many of them had you know, we could talk because 476 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: I know him before he linked up with you know, 477 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: with the Death Row dudes. I know him when he 478 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: was with did you Don't Underground? You know? So I 479 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: know this young dude, he you know, on something black 480 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: power ship. You know, I know where he's coming from. 481 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: So you know, you ain't on what you you know, 482 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you change? What are you doing? You 483 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? You're you on that, you know, 484 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: on that black man ship with you, which is I 485 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: know how that's how you raised. You're always on that. 486 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: You don't know do nothing other black man. So you know, 487 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: we had that conversation and you know, I want to 488 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: go in interview Biggie Big Ones say one word about it? Yeah, 489 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Big One, you talk big you know Big Ones say nothing. 490 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: It was like nine nine, you know, he just kept 491 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: it like, uh, Kevin, like really one hundred. So it 492 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: was it was they were they were gonna talk, you 493 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: know after me. If I had the conversation with both 494 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: of them, you know, they were gonna talk. But then 495 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: for some reason, you knew Pop pre Death Roll, Yeah, 496 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: and then what's that after? Right? Well? Which which park 497 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: you related to more? The park before before Death Roll Underground. 498 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: It's all like it's almost like two different people totally 499 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: to different people totally. Man, I can relate. I'm a Gemini, 500 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's almost like, uh, you know, 501 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: young dude, you know, hanging out with a cooler people, 502 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: then you conform into that crew. You know. That's why always, 503 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm working with kids, I tell kids, 504 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: don't be no following. You know, in the back of 505 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm thinking about, you know, them soldiers who 506 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: like pop. You know what I'm saying, You gotta be 507 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: your old man. You can't get caught up in you know, 508 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: the ship somebody else trying to do. You think Pop 509 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: was following though in that sense you do, you don't 510 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: think I think he had a plan to get out 511 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: of that situation or change the trajectory of what he 512 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: was trying to do. That's what everybody, well, when you 513 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: when you when you when you want some real black 514 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: man ship, like better got a baby, and then you 515 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: go overhead, not not not exactly bring. I mean he 516 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: was deep. He was deep. He was on some real 517 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: black man ship, you know, black power black like this. 518 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: He was on some deep black man And then so 519 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: now you get linked up with this crew on that 520 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: on some different ship, then you conformed to be like that. 521 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: You feel me? So I knew him before that. You know, 522 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: there's this young man. We're just trying to get on, 523 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: trying to get this music here, trying to do the 524 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: right thing. I'm on some black man ship. He was more, 525 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: he was more deeper than then public Enemy then public Enemy, 526 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: that black man ship. So then I when you go 527 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: and you linked with this crew here, then you kind 528 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: of conformed to that. And then now you got whole 529 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: crew of and you had already had beef for death Roll, 530 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: so you knew what type of mind sticky. Yeah it was, 531 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: you know it was you know, it was like on 532 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: some you know, we tough guyship. So then now you 533 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: got this young guy that's really you know, just searching 534 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: for a family. You bring me in and before you 535 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: know it, he conformed into you know, it's like, uh, 536 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: become a product of your environment. So he became a 537 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: product of that environment before we moved on to that. 538 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: You ever hung out with Pun as well? Yeah? Yeah, 539 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: how was how was it hanging out Pun? Fun? Pun 540 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: and Joe? I remember, you know when I first met Joe. 541 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: You know, I went to the went to the fucking 542 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: club and uh the Puerto Rican club story, let's get it. 543 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: So I go to club, hang out with Joe Bunton, 544 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: Joe beat the ship out of some club like this 545 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: motherfucker is so up. Some motherfucker like what the fund 546 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: is this? Right? But but after that, I mean we 547 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: end up doing something together and uh and some of 548 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: the other guys in the group. Next up is from 549 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: episode eighty six of Drink Champs. We sat down with 550 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: the legendary film director John Singleton and man, what can 551 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: I say, you know, it's it really hurt to to 552 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, to see John go, you know, and I'm 553 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: just really happy that that we had a chance to 554 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: sit down with him. You know. It's it's never a 555 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: good thing when when you know people leave, you know, 556 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: it seems before their time. And just felt like John 557 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: had a lot of things left to do. So it's uh, 558 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: very unfortunate, and our condolences to his entire family and 559 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: close friends. But we're grateful that we got the opportunity 560 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: to sit down on him, really humble guy for everything 561 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: he had accomplished. So in case you missed it, checkout 562 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: episode eighty six with our guests John Singleton. Um. But 563 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: here's some moments from it. You're so rich man, here 564 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: we're here, you got yachts and all type of things, 565 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: and you know what, you're humble god, but almost I'm 566 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: a brag brag for brag for you man, you know 567 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. We want to listen. I don't know 568 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: if you know what our show was about. Giving all 569 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: legends flowers when they can smell them, and treats when 570 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: they get held them because our our society so much 571 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: praise as a person after they die and I feel 572 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: like that is so backwards. Yeah you should. I should 573 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: be able to tell you how much I appreciate you 574 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: right here, face to face man and man, as opposed 575 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: to waiting for you to pass away and then be like, yeah, 576 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. I mean and him party they 577 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: in the back of the day. I should say that now, 578 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. Like, And I actually 579 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: learned that through Dave Chappelle, you know, when the way 580 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: it was print and it was like he started praising 581 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: Prince while Prince was alive. And it's just like, that's 582 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: what we got to continue to do. And that's not 583 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: just as a culture, that's as as people, like as 584 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: human human beings. As human beings, we gotta start praising 585 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: our people where they're here. So with that being said, 586 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't working with Janet Jackson penny. You know, come on, 587 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It was jerked off the penny a lot. 588 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: Throw that out there. It was good. I don't know 589 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: if that's serious, the whole age thing. No, that was 590 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: not serious. That was a joke that we was having 591 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: on the set. Because the real talk is Tupac was 592 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: attracted Dejane. I was attracted Jana the world. We're in 593 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: the set, we're both trying to like, you know, floodwater 594 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm like, you know what, I don't 595 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: know if you know, I should have you kissing on 596 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: my actress because you know, you know, and fucking around 597 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: doing all this ship. You know, Pope was just coming 598 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: to his own then, right and I was like, man, 599 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you know what, You're gonna have 600 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: to do an as test for y'all, do this left scene. 601 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: It was a joke, but he said, no, it's you know, 602 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: it's me saw not my nigger on the sun right before, 603 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: just like talking ship and then we're like, oh, ship, 604 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: we should we should we should use this, we should 605 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: put this out. And so that's what we did as 606 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: a publicity thing. As a publicity thing, we just did that. 607 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: But it's just like us talking. We got Jackson, but 608 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: it was just us talking on the ship on the 609 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: set and everything and this, and you know it was 610 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 1: an inside joke. That's when it works. Now, not only 611 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: did you get to work with Janet Jackson, if you 612 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: got to work with the big man Mike Jackson, did 613 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: he have a glove one when you met him? No, 614 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: he didn't have a guy. He's where he wore the 615 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: old fun I got a lot and he didn't. He 616 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: didn't's a crazy because in his in his problem was 617 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: you see it Michael on on camera and suff he 618 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't talk the way that he talks, you know, and 619 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: he said that Mike, Mike was a nigger, like Mike 620 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: was like different, different and every tone and everything that 621 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that just that was an expectation that 622 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: he put on for the cameras. He didn't he wouldn't 623 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: talk about it. He was just a brother. He was 624 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: different to every different to me and everything. It's just like, 625 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's just like hey, you know. And he 626 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: was really despite what he you know, he ended up 627 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: doing to his face and his skin got lighter and everything. 628 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: He was a real brother man. He was really about 629 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: black people because I heard that video. He actually that 630 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: was after Magic actually announced and he wanted to do 631 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: something and Mike wanted Mike wanted Magic in the video. 632 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: He said, you know, cal him Magic, Let's get him 633 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: in the video. Remember the time, remember time. I hate 634 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: that ship in my head, right, I ain't gonna lie. 635 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't have met Michael Jackson. I would like I 636 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: would have gave him. I would gave him a file 637 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: too hard. Who oh not? U gave us the crazy 638 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson s. But so how was it? Was he 639 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: a pure genius? Like was he everything? He was? His 640 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: damn near genius? I mean dann mal genius. I mean 641 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: like you know the things that that uh that he 642 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: did and that he uh and that he wanted to 643 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: do and stuff, you know, like unprecedented in this business. 644 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: You know, have you ever been U starstruck? Yeah? Who who? 645 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: You stought? I gotta hear this. I mean, I'm only 646 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: bet star shot two times in my whole career. I 647 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: need to hear both. Let's go for it. The first 648 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: was meeting Steven Spielberg because it's like, you know, as 649 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: a kid going up, you know, like he was, you know, 650 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: the the young person that went on to make movies 651 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: at an early age, and I wanted to be like that, 652 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Um just nervous, and you know I saw him and 653 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: that as soon as I saw him and we met 654 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: just it was like it was like, um, you know, 655 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: it was it was as great. You know, it's like 656 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: the godfather of filmmaking, of filmmaking, the second was what 657 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: your prior, yea Richard Pribord, remember prior at the comedy store. 658 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I was, I used to hang out the comed store. 659 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: As soon as you say you met Richard prior, I 660 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: thought the comedy store and so uh And it's funny 661 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: because Richard probably was hanging out with Opportina Comedy Club 662 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: was Hollywood, are you here this with a Patine Richard 663 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: with Opportunito And I can't even love that dope, And 664 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's throw that out there. I don't even 665 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: look at Opportune. I'm looking at much private. But Richard 666 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: used to have this do that work for him. Um. 667 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: It came over to me, um and and he said, uh, 668 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, uh, Richard would like to say hello to you. 669 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: And I walked across from him, and Richard was kind 670 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: of frail here. The ms was getting them, but it 671 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: wasn't as bad. He wasn't wheelchah, it wasn't built. And 672 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: he just said, uh, uh you know the young man 673 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: that made that movie because boys in the Hood just 674 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: came out. And I said, yes, sir, I am. And 675 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: mind you because you're like me. You listen to every 676 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: rich pri Mama had since birth. Curse he said, are 677 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: you the man amant the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah, 678 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: and he goes against me a hut n. I just 679 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because 680 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: this is a man. And then after that we became friends. 681 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: I used to go up to his house and said, 682 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: he'd be sitting up in the bed. You have a 683 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: gun right by the side of his bad. This is 684 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: mother got guns right next to and every comedian, Wayne's brothers, 685 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: whoever it was, he pulled guns out. No, no other 686 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: people will come through. They come through every day to 687 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: pay homaged Richard. We hope you're enjoying the special Memorial 688 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Day episode of Drink Champs as we pay re BacT 689 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: in homage and immoralized the life of these legendary artists. 690 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: Up next. I mean, there's not much that that can 691 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: be said that has it that isn't always said and 692 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: and and just known about Biggie Smalls a K. The 693 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: notorious b I g Um Big is just, you know, 694 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: just bigger than life. He He's just one of those 695 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: iconic figures in hip hop and you can't even just 696 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: begin to imagine what he would have accomplished if he 697 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: would still be here with us and what he could 698 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: have done. Unfortunately, again an untimely death for such a 699 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: great hip hop artists, just a great artist in general, 700 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: but but for hip hop, it's just he was just 701 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: monumental and so so iconic. So uh. These next stories 702 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: come from Uncle Luke, E Forty, Puffy and Little Ces. 703 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 1: Listen as they share their notorious b I G stories. 704 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, rest in peace, Biggie Smalls, Big Man, we 705 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: love you man. Let's get into these stories. But he 706 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: was in a car accident. He was in the car accident, okay, 707 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: because you was like the drive I got heard Big 708 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: never drove, never drove, never drove his life. Okay, So 709 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: what happened he was we had got arrested um day 710 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: before that. Let's make some noise of little Season, Big Game. 711 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: We got arrested downtown Brooklyn or some bud and they 712 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: took our truck. When we got the truck back that 713 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: that Alexis. We got it back, the ship didn't work, 714 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: so they had to ship the ship to the car dealership. 715 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: We went to the next morning to pick up a loan. 716 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: This car. It was a luminum van. Yeah. We we 717 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: trade an Alexis car for a Lumino van and I 718 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: was like, I shouldn't we get Alexus like he was like, no, 719 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride low, Let's just take this drive. And 720 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: I jumped in that ship and were driving around this 721 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: little just still a fork and the ship just sped 722 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: out of control. I ran into a rail. How old 723 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: were you at that? About sixteen? He was already driving, 724 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: had no else driving dirty? This? K Rose would answered, yeah, yeah, yeah, 725 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: So that's what happened, and he funked up his leg. 726 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: I had to get these gold fronts to a place, 727 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: two joints that was sucked up. That's why he had 728 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: to put down the rhyme. And uh time in the 729 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: radio station where he said that rhyme, was that the 730 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: first time you heard that rhyme? I heard the song? 731 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: She already yeah, you already. I had to accept that 732 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: one though, you know what I mean. I took one 733 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: for the team, right so now also right, uh? I 734 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: wanted to ask this question. Um this this comes via 735 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: shot him read. I believe he said, what were big 736 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: his plans for the Commission album with Jay? Who else 737 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: was supposed to be in that group? What label was 738 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be on? And who was supposed to be 739 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: in the commission. Commission he had no label idea for yet, 740 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: so he didn't know what label he's gonna do it on. 741 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: It probably gonna be on Undear that was his label. 742 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna do it on that, depending on part 743 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: what Jay was gonna do. But the commission was me, 744 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: Jay Z, Charlie Baltimore Big and No just don't play 745 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: like the boss of it, but tells his way of 746 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: like pushing Charlie out. He was gonna push Charlie through 747 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: the through the commission ships. So that's how he was 748 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna break that down. I actually spoke to on the 749 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: other day and it was crazy because unset to me. 750 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: He said, you know, it's a crazy ship, Nori. Nobody's 751 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: never interviewed him about Big, like he was his business 752 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: part enough and people didn't this is so you know, 753 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: doing drink chance like he had to sit there and 754 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: just think about it, and it was like, Yo, you 755 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: know what, Nobody never really asks me about Big, because well, 756 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: I guess what happened after Big, because Cam was supposed 757 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: to be signed to you guys, Yeah, because Cam was 758 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: actually BIG's artist and the poem Yes, yes, you gotta 759 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: tell the I'm taking too. I was so scared. I 760 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: was so scared of of Big because that's all I 761 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 1: listened to. That's all I was listened to with jail. 762 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,959 Speaker 1: So I seen him in from the Hot thirty seven 763 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, he asked something. He asked 764 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: to rhyme and that was schill but compone did rob 765 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, I'm making you junior Mafia 766 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow words. And I was so hated. I was like 767 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: he was trying to he was trying to get the squad. 768 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: Now she was always yeah, she used to always put us, 769 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: put us on your you know what. The crazy ship 770 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: was um been Big been Big in the movie when 771 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: Big is making these last phone calls, the crazy ship 772 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: was Big had called me and he played me t 773 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: or and why And I was like, he called you. 774 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: He called me and was like be your favorite records. 775 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: One I'm working with this and at the top two 776 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: or was not I swow im figuring me Big And 777 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: I told he didn't put two and two together that 778 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: Now she was a bad way to do something. So 779 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: I didn't know, you're imagine that like getting that call 780 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: and I'm worried about my sea bootleg it's over me. 781 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: But so now see you didn't been your whole childhood, 782 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: so did you? Was he always the best wrapper alive? 783 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: Or you knew you knew he was? He was nice 784 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: back then. I just knew from the rip he was dope. 785 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like, we didn't 786 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: think he was gonna be to the level of what 787 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: it is now or when he became even when he 788 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: was like when he was out, I mean, we didn't 789 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: think it was that. But he was nice and it 790 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: was to come through the look difference between five years. 791 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: So he uh brother, Yeah, when he was twenty, I 792 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: was fickteen years old, just running around. He took me 793 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: out the street since I was eleven, you know him, 794 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: since I was like five six years old and I 795 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: was in public school. She on street and then the 796 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: number five years, I was on that same strip trying 797 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: to hustle and do all that ship and he seen 798 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: that ship with me like that ain't just the funk 799 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: out of here now I'm gonna tak me. Took me 800 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: out of that that one. And you know what's funny, 801 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: A lot of people give jay Z credit for, like, 802 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, putting like a lot of his friends on. 803 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't really realize that Big 804 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: did that first from that camp camera on little cs 805 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Baltimore, little kid want some ship. Um he got 806 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: carew chain and all that big he had the club 807 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, he was doing checkob out there doing Big 808 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: Ship and all that came from just be getting put on, 809 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: set up for all the pipelines for anybody to do. 810 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: What's that Stan from the beginning was like I'm gonna 811 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: get on. And then because then you had you had 812 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: that album. What's that album? That was like one of 813 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 1: the most slept on albums? Why do you think people 814 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: slept on that album? I just think Atlantic then push it. 815 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they push it the right way, you 816 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And the money that we had 817 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: that they gave us, we used it wrong on expensive videos, 818 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: dollars eight thousand dollar videos. And once you do that 819 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: first video don't work, they don't want to shoot no 820 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: more videos. They're like, no, that's what happened. Another two weeks, 821 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: another month, ship don't move and they just kind of 822 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: just let it go, you know what I mean. But 823 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: as long as people liked it and accepted it, it 824 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: was cool with that. What I'm saying, I always wanted 825 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: to ask, like crush on you video? Right? That was 826 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 1: like the first time we've seen a female change wigs, 827 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: Like did you like she like? Like you like chance? 828 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: It's like was was was that's something that y'all was 829 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: like this is dope? Or was he? Because you know, 830 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: sometimes to be skeptic or something didn't work, you'd be like, yeah, 831 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: oh I knew it all along, but you know the 832 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: stop like this is a risk us as little nigger 833 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: as we just sat around and just let that was. 834 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: That was Big getting Undershot, like to do the partnership 835 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 1: with unders and under one that was doing the ideas 836 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: for the videos. Did all our videos get money? Players? 837 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: Anthem much on you? We just we just did what 838 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: we're saying to do. Yeah, he directed all those videos. 839 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: That was that was That was his way in the business. 840 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, experience nothing straight. Then it 841 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: came straight from the streets straight trapp and went from 842 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: hustling and went behind the cambra and was like y'all 843 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: got some ideas and Big trusted them and all them 844 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: ships just happened to pop and they and they rocked Fords. 845 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 1: We didn't say no. We just played opposition. Do you 846 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: want me to go? Go ahead? Go ahead? And just 847 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: so happened the ship actually the ship blew up what 848 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that was just all within ups. That 849 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: was all the fam team. We was like big. We 850 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: was like big Guinea. We was his creation. He was 851 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: learning all that ship from Puff and I was like, no, 852 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: I ain't taking dreaming off here of the Puff. I mean, 853 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be my own thing. Let me see if 854 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't learn without learned from him, and let me 855 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: set everybody like why you didn't sound they try? Even 856 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: at that time he was trying to spread rumors like big, 857 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: but I always seem big cool. We've just always been 858 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: like a second family that you know. That was big, 859 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: That was bey ship, and I'm trying to be I 860 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: created us to a whole another pipe line. Everything he 861 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: learned from Puff, he kind of tested it with us 862 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: and the ship working. Goddamn, what do you think? What 863 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: do you think be O's next move would have been? 864 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: Like like because like because like he was one thinks monumental, 865 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: So what was his next move would have been? Had 866 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: he he's been on His whole thing was the music. 867 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: That's ah, that nig was a fan of music. It's 868 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: just next thing was Kim and another Junior Mafia project. 869 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: You want to do the commission ship he was about. 870 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: He was gonna sign Cam he was, you know he was. 871 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: This ship was about music. He wanted to set up 872 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: his own their party. That was a big whole thing, 873 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: Like you want to give it a bunch of nice 874 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: niggers and put some ship together and just let it 875 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: run from there. He wanted to do five albums and retire. 876 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna write my albums after that. I'm gonna write 877 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of Little Seeds albums. You gotta, you gotta relax. 878 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: He gotta real. He didn't mean my whole life was 879 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: easy for him to write for me, Like I got 880 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: built into being that ship. I didn't sit back. I 881 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to be a rapper. I won ten years old, 882 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: eleven years old to my yall. I'm ready to spend, 883 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm ready to get busy. I love the music. I 884 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: love listening to it. You know that was my thing, 885 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: But I never thought about rapping. It was just a 886 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 1: thing for him, Like all right, this little nigga, he 887 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: got the wave. He knows what to do. He can 888 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: before you even knew what he told you, You're gonna 889 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: be ryn write your album right, all right? Cool? Say 890 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: no more? Yeah you want me to do? Because I 891 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff with him, 892 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: so we all do like colleges and ship like that, 893 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: and he was watching that. Okay, the only thing I 894 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: need to do is just write him some rhymes. What 895 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying him, some little cool ass rhymes. You wanna 896 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: be this little cool kid with the knapsat Tommy hill 897 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 1: Finger did tell me, don't want on niggas be likely 898 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: just all all bit. That's why you was on the kid, 899 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: That's why the crush on you. That was my creation. 900 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: After that, my album suppos't been so straight, like wow, 901 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: Puppy Love. That was name my album, Puppy Love for 902 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: real cool A bunch of crushes from you. When he died, 903 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: I can't My whole ship was like the wonful world 904 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: of Season Leo. That would be with the King go 905 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: but ass, with the bitch's hands covered with me. That 906 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: was se the Leo ideal, Like all right, I did. 907 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: I need to make a different kind of approach to us. 908 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: How did you link with it? I mean, you know, 909 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: I brought him down to do a show. You know, 910 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: it was Super weekend and then you know he came. 911 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, him juling off, you know that. 912 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: They were like big was like, okay, man, I'm doing 913 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: your pat jam the big one. The second one was 914 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: around the corner. He was like, man, I ain't gonna 915 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: do that, motherfucker. Let you come Because pat jam here 916 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: was what we call it was a Apolo South. They 917 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: would go up in there and the artists would go 918 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: in there and they'll be looking like this at your ass. 919 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, motherfucker, you better get to the song. You know, 920 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: we really know. It was the hardest order the sound man. 921 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: You have a dirty guy like who came out like 922 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 1: the crowd. So was like, yeah, I ain't doing that, motherfucker. 923 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: Let you let you come up in there, and so 924 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: many him. You know, we ended up linking up that 925 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: weekend and we was friends forever. I mean, he uh, 926 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: he would tell me stories about you know, him him 927 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: being a big fan of Poison Clan. You know what 928 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He told me he was like, man, this 929 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: fucking JT Money. You know, I you know, before I 930 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: got into business, I got all his ship. So it 931 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: was like, damn, so you know what I'm looking at 932 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: him like. He was like, nah, man, that was my dude. There, 933 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 1: that's my dude. And so wed him hit it off. 934 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: Every time you come down, I go to New York, 935 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: I would hang out with him and uh we end 936 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: up doing a record together and he wasn't there with 937 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: he died in a right. I was in l A. 938 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: Actually I was in the studio doing I was supposed 939 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: to link up with him and me and uh me 940 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: and Stoop was in the students think so yeah when 941 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: they ended up when they told us about him, did then? 942 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, we were sitting in the studio and I 943 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,240 Speaker 1: think he said on the Breakfast Club you were supposed 944 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were supposed to 945 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: go to another party. It was at a party we 946 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: were recording, and uh, we were supposed to go link 947 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: up after it. God, God bless Big Man, God bless 948 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: Jia Mafia. You know what I'm saying. Um, And did 949 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: you ever meet Tupac oh Park? Was? No, that was 950 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: my guy. Let's break out some is some now? Is 951 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 1: the bitches involved? Part? Was that was another one of 952 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: my little son Let's make yeah part. Would Pop would 953 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: come down? You know you hang out? Prop was like 954 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: George Jepson get jumpson on the on the Jempson that 955 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: that motherfucker just sitting in the car and talk talk 956 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: talk talk talk. I mean we would be on the 957 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: road together, we see each other. You would be in 958 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: my room. I'm sitting there, land down and sleep. This 959 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: motherfucker still talk got damn you know I heard every 960 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: story there was that was part with my dude, that's 961 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: my nigger. That's so let me ask you, because it 962 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you ran 963 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: Miami after especially all the termorial the beat said everybody 964 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But now 965 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: this East cost because the nigga's personalities was ill like 966 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: like like most fact niggers got good personalities. I think 967 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: I would have been at centric social media work that 968 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: been terrorizing people. How was the How was the transition? 969 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: Because you knew pop, you knew Pop and Big when 970 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: they were cool, Like even in the movie, it's like 971 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: you see Big and you say yo yo, poppets in 972 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: the joint and that was that was all love. Like, So, 973 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 1: how was that to see that transition, because I mean 974 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: it was it was sucked up because they know Big 975 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: really had genuine love for him, and we all know 976 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: he had genuine love for Big two. Let me let 977 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,439 Speaker 1: me act. You know something, if something, if something wanted, 978 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: if something wanted to happen, it could have happened. What 979 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, nothing could have stopped that though we was 980 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: we were seeing each other in plenty places and if 981 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: something because it was so you're saying, well, whoa whoa, whoa, 982 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: whoa whoa You're saying, as these records is out, y'all 983 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: were seeing each other each other a few times and 984 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: the sole Train Awards when they could have happened at 985 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 1: that time if they wanted to, Like, yeah, situations happened before, 986 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,879 Speaker 1: but it just never went there. And I just think 987 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: he didn't He didn't really want that. I just think 988 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: he had a lot of people behind him pushing him, 989 00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 1: and it was vice versa. You know, you had people 990 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: are not here too because negative and us too, you 991 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But they never would have did 992 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: nothing to each other because genuinely he knew Big headlove 993 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: for you know, and Big New Ye had love for him, 994 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: he would he. I just think he was just going 995 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: with a situation. I mean, you got niggas that just 996 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: balls you out of jail, and you owe your loyal 997 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: teacher that he didn't do nothing wrong by that, you know, 998 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and took you out of a situation beyond. 999 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 1: And they both died the same way. That ship is 1000 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: like so crazy, like six months apart, the same kind 1001 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 1: of situation. The album's maca Velly Die all that ship 1002 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 1: is just like a whole weird thing. And I was 1003 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: just thinking it was just that just I was meant 1004 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: to beat dog. You can't change it. You can't like 1005 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: do the wood ifs. And it was just they both 1006 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: got caught up in a bad situation and they ain't 1007 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 1: deserve the people. I always I always wish they had 1008 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: passed it up, because I think that would have been 1009 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: it was they was. I suppose they don't because we 1010 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: did a record together for case Lad called Very the 1011 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: Hatchet I did with the Outlaws, and you know, it 1012 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: took us fifteen years for us to sit down and 1013 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: talk about you know what I'm saying, Like we ain't 1014 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: like each other to fit teen years and none of 1015 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: us stuff even met each other and knew each other none. 1016 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: And one day we spoke to a female. One day, 1017 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm chalking to this chicken. She must have said my 1018 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: name real loud and young. Know we heard of grabbed 1019 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: the phone from her. Yo, who this real aggressive? And 1020 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm just like this, see outlaws. I'm like, I heard you. 1021 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: It was up outlaws. I heard you. What's good? And 1022 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: we sat there. We talked for about two hours. We 1023 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: got a chance to really speak on ship. He didn't 1024 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: know a lot of ship that was going on the outside. 1025 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: I ain't know. And we spoke and then he came 1026 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: to New York on damn. We got up and sat 1027 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: down and kicked it. Then, my niggers to this day, 1028 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: he said, Yo, when when Uh Pop was going to 1029 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: Vegas before that, he was like, yo, when he come 1030 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: back from Vegas, he was gonna sell that ship with 1031 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: bit you know what I mean. So that ship was 1032 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna get dead it you know, I mean eventually, you 1033 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it was gonna get squashed. He 1034 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: really knew what happened. He knew what was going on. 1035 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: He knew Big didn't have nothing to do with that. 1036 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: He knew we didn't have nothing to do with that. 1037 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: I just think he was just caught up in a 1038 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: situation and vice versa two. His things that did when 1039 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: he didn't change it was they were young. We don't 1040 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: really a lot of time young. They were dog like, 1041 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, when his forties making this type of mistakes up. 1042 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: We were kids. I look at it now because I'm 1043 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 1: over thirty. I'm over thirty years old. I'm almost forty, 1044 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: So I look at it. I look at it there like, damn, 1045 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: these niggles actually babies. Dog we didn't ain't know no better. 1046 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: And let me let me tell you something. When we 1047 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: dropped l A l A, I stepped to Big and 1048 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: I told him that, and he said, he said, yo, 1049 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to be um. I don't want that 1050 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: record to come out because what they accusing me for Nori, 1051 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: I ain't do so I gotta like he always knew 1052 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: to take the high row like it was ill he was. 1053 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: He'll tell you like, no, dog, ain't ain't the way. 1054 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: But you know, to each his own, you want to 1055 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: do that, you don't do that. We couldn't stop him 1056 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: from doing that, but we was loving them for doing it. 1057 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like then was like man, 1058 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: we stepped up to the plate. But it's like, yo, 1059 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: let's not well, we don't want to do that. We're 1060 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: trying to get some money, you know, like you know 1061 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: that's how b our ship was. Don't we're trying to 1062 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: get money. We ain't any ship for that. And if 1063 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna be beef, don't make it hot. You're gonna 1064 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: make it hot. You make it. You're gonna do some 1065 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: real ship. Don't responding your reaction to nothing. They ain't 1066 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: say nothing. You don't know what's gonna happen when you say, 1067 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no response you bigger cut you off. 1068 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: You're spawning anything you make a record, don't call me 1069 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: no more, don't come to You're just done finish. We 1070 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: don't do that now for the record, they the rumor 1071 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: is who shot you was recorded way before before that 1072 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: as a vinyl like like, yeah, it didn't make sense 1073 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: before any two that was supposed to be from Mary 1074 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: j album. You feel me. I ain't know bragging none 1075 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: of that ship, But I don't know personally, we just 1076 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: we just want to know. Yeah, he's probably be running 1077 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: right now. Actually, but what happened though, like, um, he 1078 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: came to the bay he wanted, he was in sacrament 1079 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even know you got him out, like y'all. No, no, no, 1080 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: it was some people I knew, but I didn't know. 1081 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even know the mother fuckers had him out 1082 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: theory because they didn't promoted right or some ship. But 1083 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: they was. They hit me at eleven o'clock something like 1084 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: that night. They were like, man, I got to first 1085 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: of all the way, I didn't had nothing against him, 1086 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: and I know Pok had issues because Park really knew him. 1087 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know him like that, but he had gotten 1088 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: because after the Park ship, the ship that had happened 1089 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: at qual this was ship. This was what year was this? Man? 1090 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I forgot man. But anyway you could 1091 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: do you do them just as all that and ship anyway, 1092 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: So the thing is that, um, what do you do? 1093 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: He awesome magazine. It was a magazine, the Canadian magazine. 1094 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: Dude had did interviews in and they said they said 1095 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: they got him drunk, just like you. Motherfucker's got him 1096 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: hell and they got a hell of drunk and start 1097 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: asking him on the scale from from one of ten, 1098 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: from you know, from one of the ten. Who do you? 1099 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: You know who you rate this? Like he said Spice 1100 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 1: ones and ice Q like everybody in the street. That 1101 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: was somebody. And he got to my name and he's, 1102 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: oh man, that's he's big. He's whacked. Man. He got 1103 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: he give him, give him a zero. You know I'm 1104 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: talking about mind you I've been I was wearing Kangles 1105 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: in high school. I'm almost forty nine years old, so 1106 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: I've been wearing Kangles. You know what I'm saying. All 1107 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: that ship just so happened that the dude had the 1108 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: kind of same kind of swag I had, like you know, 1109 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Kuji Kuji shirts, was sweaters, was in for Sasha. We 1110 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: just you know, that was the ship when you were tycoon, 1111 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: you're working with it, you know what I'm saying. He 1112 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: was just on the West coast. He was on the 1113 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: East coast. I'm on the West coast. So I don't 1114 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: know if that's what had him saying saying the nigga zero, 1115 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: But my my, my status unorthodox. So the motherfucker's that 1116 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,479 Speaker 1: think that can't catch it, they'd catch it later because 1117 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I said a lot of ship that it ain't just slang. 1118 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Just the ship. I say, you know what, it's kind 1119 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: of ahead of his time. You know. Then they're like, 1120 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 1: oh man, because its fans that I had got right now, 1121 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: that's die harsh. That didn't understand me, they said. When 1122 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: I was younger, I just thought you was whacked. But 1123 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: as I started listening more and more and living the 1124 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: life that going through this then and thing, I'm like, 1125 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: my nigga, you the best fish, feel me. So to 1126 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: make a long story short, man, so dude, um so, 1127 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: everybody had got wind of the ship, you know what 1128 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and that's what far as him dissing 1129 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: me in that magazine. So my little dudes they were 1130 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: all hot and shipped too. So they just so happened 1131 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: to sneak up the secramento you know I'm talking about. 1132 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: They had, I guess to do. They threw the show. 1133 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: He was out there. They called me a Leavin something 1134 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: at night. What you want me to do with this nigga? Woo? 1135 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: And um I told him, I put put the nick 1136 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: on the phone. You feel me like that? So they 1137 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: put him on the phone and whatnot, and we chopped 1138 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: it up and he was like, man, fody you know, man, 1139 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: look man, I was drunk. Man, But I funk what 1140 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: you duke. You know what I'm saying A photo y'all 1141 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: heard the story before and all that. I'm so glad 1142 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: nothing happened to him, you know what I mean. I 1143 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: didn't want that. I wouldn't even if I were to 1144 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: see that, wouldn't tried to knock him down. It wasn't nothing, 1145 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: and I seen him later on week. We chopped it 1146 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: up by the fact I was supposed to be on 1147 01:01:54,440 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: this last album, Life After Death. If you go, if 1148 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 1: we if we find the actual physical copy back then 1149 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,959 Speaker 1: we did shoutouts. We shot out, We shout out people 1150 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: things and go look in there and it's gonna say 1151 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: shout out to E forty. You feel what I'm saying, 1152 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: So that ship was done with man? You feel me 1153 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, let's make some noise of that. You 1154 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: know what. I actually to tell the truth A forty. 1155 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I actually never actually heard the story. I heard the 1156 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: rumor pieces of it. By the way, I didn't set 1157 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: it up. I meant to say that I definitely had 1158 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: that and that's on. That's on everything I love and 1159 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,919 Speaker 1: I don't like like that and I don't play with God. 1160 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: They didn't set that up, but that's the rumor. The 1161 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: rumors always the one was a phony nigger that had 1162 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: trying to claim that ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 1163 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna claim it. I ain't gonna act like 1164 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean was he came to the 1165 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Bay Area, he couldn't leave, but he spoke to He 1166 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: wasn't even the beat. He was in Sacramentico, which is 1167 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: northern California. It's northern California. But it's not the bag killing. 1168 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: That's my that's my my, my mother in five Mexican home. 1169 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to take time for my my brother Ali. Yo, 1170 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: tell Ali get well soon. Man, Damn you're like you 1171 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: killed him right now. Shout out to the uber homes 1172 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to Miami. When we dropped L A l A. I 1173 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: stepped to Big and I told him that and he said, 1174 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: he said, Yo, I don't want to be um. I 1175 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: don't want that record to come out because what they 1176 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 1: accusing me for Nori, I ain't do so. I gotta 1177 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 1: like he always knew to take the high row like 1178 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: it was ill like he was. He'll tell you like, no, 1179 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: dog ain't ain't the way. But you know, to each 1180 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: his own, you want to do that you don't do that. 1181 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: We couldn't stop him from doing that, but we was 1182 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: loving him for doing it, you know what I'm saying 1183 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Like that, he was like, man, we stepped up to 1184 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: the plate. But it's like, yo, let's not well, we 1185 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money, 1186 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, like you know that's how b our ship was. 1187 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Don't we're trying to get money. We ain't in this 1188 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: ship for that. And if you're gonna be beef, don't 1189 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: make it hot. Gonna make it hot, you make it. 1190 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna do some real ship. Don't you spading your 1191 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: reaction to nothing? Big ain't say nothing. You don't know 1192 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when you see I ain't saying nothing, 1193 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: no response you bigger, cut you off. You're spawning anything. 1194 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Now you make a record, don't call me no more. 1195 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Don't come to nigger. You're you're done, finish. We don't 1196 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: do that now for the record day. The rumor is 1197 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: who shot you was recorded way before that as a 1198 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: vinyl like like didn't Yeah, it didn't make sense before 1199 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: any two that's supposed to been from Mary j album 1200 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: for her that's supposed an intro to her first album, 1201 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Get the Funk Out. Who Shots My Life is the 1202 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: second album intro to the second album, It was too 1203 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: hard for it too was take you kids in the building. 1204 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, we gotta put you over there. You gotta 1205 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: put you over there again. I've been hanging out with 1206 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: my man for about the week. Kiss serious and you 1207 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 1: go to the gym to every day snaphing got up 1208 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 1: playing for he don't play those games and with drink 1209 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: with you, so you said, who shot You? Was done? 1210 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: Was done for what? That was for Mary J Blide 1211 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: That was to her second album, and it was it 1212 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: was baby, let's Keith LLL COO J and big on it. 1213 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Who Shot You? Yeah, that's the original Keith Murray J. 1214 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 1: Originally was Keith, Mary J and b I and it 1215 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: was from Mary. It was the intro to Mary J 1216 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: My Life album. I never heard of it and it 1217 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: was like, this is too hard to be just to 1218 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: start off for R and B album. And once they 1219 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: scratched it, b I was like, give me the record. 1220 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sunk with it, and b I added the 1221 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: second verse to it and took it. It was a 1222 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: B side record and put it on the B side too. 1223 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: I wish it what Big paper one more chance it 1224 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: was on and we just ran with that was way 1225 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: before that, but it did feel like Big was coming 1226 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: at It's a coincidence that, I mean that had me 1227 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: at that time, No, I know I noticed, but like that, 1228 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: Why would people think that when they know they already 1229 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: earned this record before? Because that was just Big generation stupid. 1230 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: Now they've been stupid. You say, I'm like, why y'all, 1231 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Why would y'all think that? But I understand just from 1232 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: the situation at that time, I knew how it was. 1233 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: But we you know, Bigness sweat it though Big New 1234 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Big News. It was Bigger. That's you know, he like man, 1235 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: he know that song and about you know that song. 1236 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: We're done before that, you know what I mean? So 1237 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: big that when Big is on stage and they kind 1238 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: of born them and oh that was real. That was 1239 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 1: we was a Satha Mano and ship the South Amento. 1240 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: It was a bunch of like West Coast on his 1241 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: booked on that show, not you for his be legit 1242 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: the pute we get love out there. You know, we 1243 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: didn't know about this interview, uh, this interview that Big 1244 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: opposed he did with this dude from Toronto. He put 1245 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of ships and said, big was this is 1246 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 1: why West Coast all this ship and uh I remember 1247 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 1: walking through that ship and Nigga mac Tim bumped me 1248 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: and ship well, you know, I walked through the spot 1249 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: like the circus spots he was in there and see 1250 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: the type of business in here. Walked through one time. 1251 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I just get the film. I turned out. I looked 1252 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: back to Nick Mactin like this with me, so I 1253 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: looks a big motherfucker. So I was like, big this 1254 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: ship though it don't feel like that that love. When 1255 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: we got on stage, you don't stay then stop throwing 1256 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: coins at us and ship man you know that coins 1257 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: throwing that you're on stage and ship's hurt my nigger 1258 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: that sho and big guy mad I was like, your 1259 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: fun that throwing? Who shot you? Who shot shot? And 1260 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: when do who shots you? On? They just start going nuts. 1261 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: They stopped throwing. They want bad But I did that ship. 1262 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that right here, listen dog 1263 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: say that the place you know you get guy Big 1264 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: requested it like like you shoot me like butcher, like 1265 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy in a funny way, it's crazy like like 1266 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: but sometimes you gotta take those. It's just stand out. 1267 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 1: They just didn't want to feel like, you know, they 1268 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: was getting to them where they was attimidating them like 1269 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I fuck, man, I want to do that. Who shot 1270 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: you enough? Like trying to hold that ship just like 1271 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: who shot you? Who shot you? On that ship just 1272 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: changed the whole momentum. Ship we got followed back to 1273 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 1: be leagit, follow us back to the hotel that day 1274 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: and all that ship. Man, they thought Big was trying 1275 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: to diss the whole city. Some bullshit that's interviewed somebody 1276 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: put out. But then they squashed that ship right there. 1277 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Big on the phone efore and talk about it. Let's 1278 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: you know what that hit. It was like, yo, man, 1279 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: let me know, y'all get to the town, you get 1280 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: to their ports, saton. That was what the nwnstairs and 1281 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: anything stayed in the hotel a lot before to the 1282 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: whole to the next morning, took us to the at. 1283 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: If you go online, you can find this demo um 1284 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 1: before unsigned hype. You heard it, No, I heard it. 1285 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: I saw unsigned Hype and that's that's when I called 1286 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Maddie see miss the Sea, and I, you know, track 1287 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: down the demo from just the explanation of what I heard, 1288 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, and his look was so disruptive, you know, 1289 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: it's a good way to explain he felt. He felt 1290 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: like Miles Davis to me, you know what I'm saying. 1291 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 1: When I when I had first song, but it was 1292 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: like it was it was a vibrational attraction that was dead. 1293 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: Like I knew, I like store up to stare at 1294 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 1: the picture, you know what I'm saying, for like maybe 1295 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 1: six days, you know what I'm saying after hearing the music, 1296 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, no, no, before I even got the demo, 1297 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 1: just a picture in itself was giving me this strong 1298 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 1: vibration that I knew that whatever this guy was saying, 1299 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: like you know, it was it was something that was 1300 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 1: It was something that was really really really really authentic, 1301 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: just by the look in his eyes, you know. And 1302 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 1: then when I heard the music, you know, it was 1303 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 1: one of those things I merely called my girl and 1304 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, you gotta you gotta tell me 1305 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,560 Speaker 1: if this is as hot as great as is, I 1306 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: really believe it is. You know, she heard it. She 1307 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 1: was like like, wherever he's at, you better go get him, 1308 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now that was that's 1309 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: interesting that you said you called your girl. Yeah, because 1310 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 1: women are the biggest consumers of music without a doubt. 1311 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: So how how did you know that early on? Um? 1312 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: Because everything I did was for girls, My whole swag, 1313 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: my whole you know, um, musically dancing. I started dancing 1314 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:27,839 Speaker 1: because you know, I like, really, I really trust women's opinions, 1315 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 1: and I liked the vibration. And you know, I've always 1316 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,560 Speaker 1: just loved women that really were into music, you know, 1317 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: that knew how to dance and was in the music. 1318 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 1: I can't even relate to somebody it's not into music, 1319 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: So you know, um, you know, I had a girl 1320 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: that was really into music, and and I really trusted 1321 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: her judgment. So it was something that something that you 1322 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 1: know when it's something crazy and you got a girl 1323 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: that's like that on that same wavelength. She said that 1324 01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 1: about Big Pride to see just on the demo just 1325 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: on Yeah, yeah, the demo is crazy. Demo is some 1326 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: of his best works. None of those tracks made it now, 1327 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean he just he was just freestyling over some beats. 1328 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: So it wasn't you know, it wasn't that time where 1329 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 1: you could just wrap on somebody's beat. He was. He 1330 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 1: was like kind of the first to do that. I 1331 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: mean second when you know, you did the jacket for Beasts, 1332 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: but he didn't. In another way, but when he went 1333 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: and rapped before Ready to Die on all l A beats, 1334 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Before that, it wasn't like 1335 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: people were getting on people's tracks, what I'm saying. So, so, 1336 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: how did you guys started incorporating like the R and 1337 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: B s, the R and B tracks, like the Juicy's 1338 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 1: and all that. Because I can listen to Biggest Demo 1339 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and I can tell that that was directly um Uh, 1340 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: which was my favorite record by the way, Juicy. But 1341 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 1: but how do you go about convincing a hardcore artists 1342 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 1: like big um to that this commercial, this commercial success 1343 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: is something that he needs. It really wasn't a lot 1344 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: of convincing. I was like, yo, if you want to 1345 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to be big Big and 1346 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, when we did partying bullshit, 1347 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 1: he he didn't didn't know how to write a song, 1348 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 1: so you know, you know, just like most rappers, you 1349 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, everything was like sixty bars and everything. 1350 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 1: And then so you know, once you know, I kind 1351 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 1: of broke down the whole song structured. To him, he 1352 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: was like a genius, so he didn't he would take 1353 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: it and then and and and he just really was 1354 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 1: strong on making songs. People didn't write wraps down. Um. 1355 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 1: That was that was the second year. Yeah, yeah, this 1356 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: breaking news. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, 1357 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,680 Speaker 1: the first year he would write him down. By the 1358 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 1: second year, you know, he was just sitting the room 1359 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't say nothing for like maybe two or 1360 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 1: three days and go in and just do it from 1361 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 1: head to toe. No punching in, nothing like that. Maybe 1362 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, let's yeah. But as 1363 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: far as the as far as the big record, you know, 1364 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 1: going after the Juicy and the Big Papa with the 1365 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 1: Ozzy Brothers, it was just it was a vibe that 1366 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I was in that I had. I had already seen 1367 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: work to a certain degree, and I knew with Mobi 1368 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: and Premier we had the harder edge tracks, and I 1369 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: knew that there was just this opportunity, um because even 1370 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, the West Coast was doing in their way 1371 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: that their style of sampling more commercial type of hits. 1372 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: But I knew that these joints right here These were 1373 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: the things that I I grew up to in Hallan 1374 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 1: when I used to have to do my chores in 1375 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 1: the morning. These records was really really deep, like sheet 1376 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying, and and just 1377 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: having that juicy sample and in the Big Papa joint 1378 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: and then the One More Chance. I had all that 1379 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, So you know, I knew he 1380 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: wanted to be fly and I told him like, this 1381 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: is the road to the flying noess, she just gonna 1382 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: be really dusty and be doing videos behind like in 1383 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: abandoned buildings, And he was like, I want to be flying. 1384 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: He always wanted to just have make sure his gear 1385 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 1: was flyer. Then somebody that was slimmer. Now that One 1386 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 1: More Chance remix like in the Streets album was already 1387 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: a phenomenon. We already knew where Big was going. But 1388 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 1: then y'all one more Chance remix and video like how 1389 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 1: like what was the fund? Did you thinking? To say? 1390 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Like what was it? Because because I believe he was 1391 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: gold at the time, was that to like the record 1392 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,439 Speaker 1: that you wanted to take it over to the platinum 1393 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 1: or yeah? Yeah, you know, um as a producer, I 1394 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 1: get here giving me the you know, the confidence. So 1395 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, when you really believe in everything's great and 1396 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: you're in that frequency, you know, that's what you're attracting. 1397 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: And I attracted that sample and I was like this 1398 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,799 Speaker 1: one right here, this is this right this right here? Scary? 1399 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, it was scary, you know because it was 1400 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 1: a true record for the ladies. And not only that, 1401 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 1: it felt like I felt like you and Big perfected 1402 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 1: feeding the streets and feeding the radio. Yeah, like at 1403 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: the same time you had who shot you that all 1404 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,600 Speaker 1: the streets? You know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards that, 1405 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 1: but you're killing the radio? Like who was that? You? 1406 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: Who developed a strategy of feed the streets? And you 1407 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 1: know it was it was more of a respect thing 1408 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 1: of of of I knew what he wanted to do 1409 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: and if we were going to have this like partnership 1410 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 1: on making music, and he was going to follow me 1411 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,679 Speaker 1: down the road to making some of these bigger records, 1412 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,600 Speaker 1: and you know, then I would follow him down the 1413 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 1: road to um, you know, making more the hardcore records. 1414 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: There's only one line that I had made him change 1415 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: or just record that he went too far for me. 1416 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: You need this story. I think he talked about rape 1417 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 1: and Mary or something that, yeah it was and I 1418 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: just I just I just couldn't do it. And he 1419 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 1: respected dreams. No this is this is just a free 1420 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: style because that eventually came out though now I was 1421 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of um like set that standard when he said 1422 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: when I was twelve, I went to help us nothing 1423 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Jesus so all artists was trying to say something disrespectful 1424 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 1: like still clever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but yea yeah 1425 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 1: yeah but that yeah, that was the only thing that 1426 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,200 Speaker 1: we had started to have a discussion about certain responsibilities. 1427 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 1: He didn't really give a funk, but at the same 1428 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: time he was he was kind of a big one. Yeah, 1429 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: but he over the bridge that yeah, he said he 1430 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 1: whatever he said was like from from a standpoint of lyricism, 1431 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: it was yeah, it wasn't from this. It wasn't a 1432 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: shock value like yeah, yeah value. Yeah. He seemed like 1433 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 1: on the first album that it felt like West Coast 1434 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: influenced him a lot, like that's the way I felt 1435 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 1: as a listening Yeah, really not at all. Yeah, because 1436 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: there were some samples that they sampled a lot of 1437 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: some of the West Coast records and some of the 1438 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as me sampling, I 1439 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 1: was definitely in was by the chronic They're even ready 1440 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: to Die that whole, So that was not him. Yeah, yeah, 1441 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 1: that was me that because I was I heard the 1442 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 1: chronic and I just really became obsessed with how they 1443 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: were able to make it sound like it was. Actually 1444 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 1: you actually got into a low ride in the comment. 1445 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 1: So I wanted ready to Die to feel like you was, 1446 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, in Brooklyn and from New York and so 1447 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, Dre definitely inspired me, you know on that one. 1448 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Would you enjoy more producing? Oh? Yeah, that was that 1449 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: was the only one that we I mean, Cola was 1450 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 1: on the Locks out. Of course that was gonna be 1451 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 1: our album, didn't you say? I want that Big win 1452 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: at y'all? Yeah, you'll see verse what you'll see the 1453 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,640 Speaker 1: first it's actually the Locks first feature with Big We 1454 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 1: never met him, and I know what happened. Puff Winning 1455 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 1: told him some ship puff Winning. Y'all got these niggas 1456 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 1: from youngest, the dirty winning niggas. They're coming crazy, They're 1457 01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 1: coming for you. That he came crazy. He came from 1458 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:06,640 Speaker 1: the first line nig's talking when ain't I don't know 1459 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: how crazy I can't go back and listen to what 1460 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: was coming. That was coming. He could have actually broke 1461 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: our smith. He could all wrong. He could have tail 1462 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: between the legs and kiss leg that. Let me just 1463 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 1: crib the situate. So y'all come to the lab like 1464 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,680 Speaker 1: big people. If he was dope the ground, he was 1465 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: like he loved underground you ship. He was into him 1466 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: and Math that record, I can't. I don't know how 1467 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: that came up with that. That record seems like they 1468 01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 1: were going rad it like and and at that time, 1469 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 1: Meth was considered the best because he had the m 1470 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 1: A T H O. D man. He was cooking. He 1471 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: was cooking, he was he was ripping everything that was 1472 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: that that name was every everywhere, and that was going 1473 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: to be all famous him and old Dirty. I still 1474 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: can't say who won that. I still certain days like 1475 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 1: different styles too. I give it up. I say, was like, no, 1476 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 1: he got me. He said that j join he said 1477 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 1: Jake got him book of Finance. I gotta disagree said that. 1478 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: I told he wasn't think he's bucking dog. See, I 1479 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't understand j in the beginning. He was using all 1480 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 1: them big words and that school nine grade mon nigger 1481 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know all that scientific or reflical and orlean. 1482 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand the color ship direct to 1483 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: the point and b I was more like a direct 1484 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 1: but bad? Now would it be? He bodied something going 1485 01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 1: and Philly. He never had, Oh man come out and 1486 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,439 Speaker 1: sees events. He should have, he said, a man like 1487 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 1: somebody should have told him, no, a big not that 1488 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 1: it's still work. Still, I'm sorry, I'm still he killed 1489 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 1: him now that was hurt from getting big that we're 1490 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 1: going to speaking his defense. He's a lawyer, he's a 1491 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: way rapid and winning helped to a lawyer's biggest sue. 1492 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying. I always was like music 1493 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 1: is still I'm sorry, I'm sorry like that. No, that 1494 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 1: was some big they had. No he even destroyed Shock, 1495 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 1: but he's found but come on, destroyed Shock, he said Shock. 1496 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 1: You get it too. That that was the only record 1497 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: with him and nas on it. Hrsus was four shack 1498 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,599 Speaker 1: shots versus that he said was for shocks shot, winning 1499 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 1: and broken. He couldn't say basketball politics, your dog, I can't. 1500 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I can't say nothing that you got right. I was 1501 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: there with kids on that record called the Who World. 1502 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 1: He came back. He had a verse there we was going, 1503 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 1: we was at the hotel. It wasn't Naas on that 1504 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: record as well. I don't know. I don't believe it's 1505 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 1: a virgin. The only version between Big and Nas only 1506 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 1: heard that when we did we went to Jack Cribb 1507 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 1: and and that ship is at the same time that 1508 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,599 Speaker 1: they're talking about the same record, but no, the same 1509 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 1: time that they're talking and Big, what what record did 1510 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Big guard Nas? Kicking the door? Kicking the door? What 1511 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,800 Speaker 1: was that line? Because Nas came back he said some ship, 1512 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: but it was he was like, he was like niggas 1513 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Champagne last year. They wasn't champ Now said the line 1514 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: he said, he take the crown off the so called 1515 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 1: king and lock it down freestyle. He did it, Big 1516 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: people that and that was Big response to the the 1517 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,679 Speaker 1: third verse to kicking the door. What did he say? Again, 1518 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,520 Speaker 1: this goes out but those that choose to use disrespectful 1519 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 1: views on the kingdom and why fun that way? Don't 1520 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,560 Speaker 1: bleat now you were railing it, snatch that lightship, scaling it. 1521 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 1: Conscience of your nunsiense eight so more powdered and Johnson 1522 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 1: than Johnson. Vision legs never laxed. That is crazy. I 1523 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: used to have to catch you on this ship. I 1524 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,920 Speaker 1: still catch you onto some ship now, Damn dog, I 1525 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 1: ain't know what that. I just had to ask Bigger 1526 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 1: what you mean by that? What's that? But that's where 1527 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: that came from? I asked where that came from? He 1528 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 1: he played the free style was like Listen's even using 1529 01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: big words. It's his flow, it's his delivery. And the 1530 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 1: way he said the words. Man, it was just so clear, 1531 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 1: cun of your nunsense. We had never laxed back big 1532 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 1: so wonderful love. It was a wonderful big, big fat 1533 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,559 Speaker 1: black motherfucker must be antics. You just feel like big 1534 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 1: fat niggam. I think Punney was a very romantic. I'm 1535 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: just doing I used to see the nigga with roses 1536 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 1: all the time, just no reason. What are you doing 1537 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: with my brother? Little speak? He did a little spik 1538 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:23,080 Speaker 1: of looking at that like it was just cool. Yeah, 1539 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 1: so got a little awk with this. Dope was dope. 1540 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,840 Speaker 1: It's good, it's good, it's good to get the akers 1541 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: sometimes was real. He was really big pimping dog. He 1542 01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 1: was up. Now, let's describe at that time, right, because 1543 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 1: at that time you're just getting the notice guy right 1544 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 1: and in according to the movie, it's like he gave 1545 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: bigger check and he gave Big all these promises, but 1546 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 1: he really had no accolades to match that as a whole. 1547 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean he worked up, but not 1548 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,600 Speaker 1: for himself, but that he had something he had. He 1549 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 1: had Joe. He didn't like what I'm saying that he 1550 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,639 Speaker 1: was one was his first label, bad Boy, So yeah, 1551 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 1: but I was it was he was gonna make his career. 1552 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 1: So what made what do you think made y'all in general? 1553 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: When Big even trust this guy B I funk not 1554 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,600 Speaker 1: think just be I just knew he knew what he 1555 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: was doing and he was he was he was devoted 1556 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,560 Speaker 1: to b. I. That's something I couldn't say about He 1557 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,479 Speaker 1: was you when it came to be I. He was 1558 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 1: straight up with Big. I mean, I can't knock that. 1559 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,519 Speaker 1: I can't take that away. It wouldn't be no B. 1560 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,680 Speaker 1: I once phone the one for Pepe straight up. It's 1561 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: just a real ship ever and be our funk with him. 1562 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,600 Speaker 1: And then the day we did you know, the end 1563 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,599 Speaker 1: of the day, if he say it's cool, it's cool, 1564 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 1: who am I honestly up next man. You know, I 1565 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,760 Speaker 1: consider this this person to be a pioneer and what 1566 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: it is, you know, for hip hop podcasting. He he 1567 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 1: definitely was someone that that I was checking out and 1568 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: inspired by, you know. And who I'm speaking about is 1569 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,680 Speaker 1: no other than Reggio say a K. Combat Jack, you know, 1570 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,719 Speaker 1: who is definitely a legend hosting one of the original 1571 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 1: hip hop podcasts with the Combat Jack Show. His resume 1572 01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,640 Speaker 1: far proceeds a podcast world, as he was a successful 1573 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: lawyer and represent a sort of hip hops the legendary 1574 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 1: artists and producers such as Jay Z, Rockefeller Records, component 1575 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Ori Aga, and more. It was an honor to have 1576 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 1: interviewed Combat Jack on Drink Champs. I mean, to meet him, 1577 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 1: to talk to him, to interact with him, to hear 1578 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 1: the full episode. Checkout episode thirty two with Combat Jack 1579 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 1: and Jack Thriller was. It was a hilarious um episode. 1580 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 1: You just gotta check it out if you have and 1581 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely one of our classics. But here's some 1582 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 1: great moments from that episode. The more careful you have 1583 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 1: to be with your words, so that a so I 1584 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: learned this. I learned this listening from Tupac Biggie and 1585 01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 1: Jack right when Tupac comms no not just listen to 1586 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 1: their music and Tupac talking about I caught five and 1587 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 1: this and that and just like embracing being a target, 1588 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then passing away too soon, 1589 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Biggie's first album one of 1590 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: the most impactful albums of all time, Ready to Die, 1591 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: Ready to No No But but but I worked boy all. 1592 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of the hit man I 1593 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 1: worked with with Puff Puff, The Home Now, Derek Angeletti, 1594 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Ron Lawrence, don't get out of my power. But let's listen, 1595 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 1: leten listen. I realized as a hip hop fan, particularly 1596 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 1: with hip hop and the vibration that it strikes. We 1597 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 1: don't we don't take hip hop for joke. Hip Hop 1598 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 1: is real when you say, some ship's real. So if 1599 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: you say you're ready to die and you got a 1600 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 1: million fans, that ship travels. But at the same time, 1601 01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: and you noticed Nori when Jay was coming up, niggas 1602 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 1: didn't think Jay was gonna be that nigger, right am, 1603 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I right? Wrong? But when Jay was like, I'm gonna 1604 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 1: be the richest motherfucker speaking in hippot. He became that. 1605 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: So I learned the power of words. So my biggest 1606 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: um lesson and podcast is thinking, it's just me and 1607 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: my niggas in this studio talking ship, and and and 1608 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 1: and one day I did this rant with regard to 1609 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 1: Pat Hooo's okay and the and the ship went viral. 1610 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 1: And that ship surprised me because it was just a 1611 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,599 Speaker 1: small part of our episode. What was you saying about 1612 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,599 Speaker 1: bad poos? I was just I'm just saying something about 1613 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,679 Speaker 1: bad like he wasn't good. I was just saying something 1614 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: about I don't know what you're saying, drink. I just 1615 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: heard a record that I didn't have. No just I 1616 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 1: heard a record on No No it was my boot. 1617 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,840 Speaker 1: That record my boot, And I was like, yo, this 1618 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 1: is not who got paid. So I went off like 1619 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 1: I was on Twitter, and some pappoose followers was like 1620 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 1: coming at me because I'm not gonna argue. I'm not 1621 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,679 Speaker 1: gonna argue with you. I'm gonna address this on my show. 1622 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: So when I did, the ship went viral. And then 1623 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 1: when I realized that I crossed the line, it was 1624 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: too late to take the words. What did you say? 1625 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,720 Speaker 1: What did you say? Just just let's just google it, 1626 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 1: my nigga. I'm telling you google it, my nigga, because 1627 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm moving forward, you know what I'm saying. So when 1628 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,240 Speaker 1: I realized that I crossed the line with Papoose and 1629 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 1: I could never get you know what I'm saying, Like, 1630 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, you gotta watch what you say 1631 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,880 Speaker 1: because even when we're joking, you could hurt somebody or 1632 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,679 Speaker 1: you could create an enemy for life with your words. 1633 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 1: And it was like, not that I'm afraid to say 1634 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 1: my honest truth, but I still got to realize and 1635 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: be responsible what I say about the other man, right 1636 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 1: because the thing about podcasts, it's kind of lives forever. 1637 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,519 Speaker 1: These interviews don't die, so right now, everything that we said, 1638 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the reason why I wanted to be 1639 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: clear and let you know that everything I ever said 1640 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,680 Speaker 1: about you was just jokes and always. But I mean, 1641 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 1: you know that the difference is y'all in each other face. 1642 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 1: So I have a whole different outlook on it. I 1643 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,120 Speaker 1: feel like if you, like, I say a lot of 1644 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 1: crazy things that you do, and I say that everybody face, 1645 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 1: did I did I say something about like, for instance, 1646 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,599 Speaker 1: you know, I hear an incident with two chains. Oh yeah, 1647 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,720 Speaker 1: what happens to Yeah, you know, he said, he's gonna 1648 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 1: suck you up. He said, water Front Realty right where 1649 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:37,320 Speaker 1: not that New York is not what public performance, it's publishing. 1650 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,400 Speaker 1: So it's that's one. What's you said? I said? I said? 1651 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:48,200 Speaker 1: I said public performance publishing synchronization. So like whenever your 1652 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:53,680 Speaker 1: ship is like the movie movie commercial video, but when 1653 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,120 Speaker 1: they write a two chains wrap and the ship is 1654 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 1: a kid to bring up two chains guy. So when 1655 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 1: the lyrics are written that people buy people buy them 1656 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:08,679 Speaker 1: people people, it's a dying breed for people buy print 1657 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,640 Speaker 1: people by How does the ship choreographic? How can I 1658 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,840 Speaker 1: play this whole? Oh? You mean writing the music, writing 1659 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 1: the music and the lyrics. It's still public. The lyrics 1660 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,080 Speaker 1: is considered like the music, like if you were to 1661 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 1: play I said four, that's four five record sales Breckord sales. 1662 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 1: But but but it's but but it's expanded right now 1663 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 1: because now is digital streaming stream So maybe it's at 1664 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 1: seven right now, I mean I'm at the authority, but 1665 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 1: um title, yeah, Apple Spotify, that's that's an extra six. 1666 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,759 Speaker 1: So now let me ask you there might be a seventh. 1667 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,960 Speaker 1: You might be a seven six genius is print now 1668 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 1: I would say genius, But I just picked up I 1669 01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 1: just give you all sick out of the music to 1670 01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 1: make money off you music. So Jack, how old you Jack? 1671 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just but thirty self? Okay, young buck? Yeah, 1672 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,479 Speaker 1: I got a old face. But so in your opinion 1673 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:20,760 Speaker 1: to you're picking up a young you of yourself, you 1674 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 1: think streaming hurt the industry or streaming helped it? And 1675 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,320 Speaker 1: think it helped the industry? Man, because I like the 1676 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 1: fact that you it ain't no excuses if you can't 1677 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: make it right now, you know you don't even deserve 1678 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,400 Speaker 1: to be in the game. I don't think that's true. 1679 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's agree with him. I mean I 1680 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,560 Speaker 1: don't in a sense because before there was the you know, 1681 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,640 Speaker 1: the gatekeepers in a sense if your gatekeepers, No, no, 1682 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,720 Speaker 1: that's that's true. But the oversaturation makes it harder in 1683 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:52,200 Speaker 1: a sense. What's balancing a way harder to to be hurt, 1684 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 1: to be hurt byfend. I love music. I always love music. 1685 01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen to ship I don't right you 1686 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 1: might not eat even know the music that you would 1687 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 1: when I find you when I find. When I find it, 1688 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 1: you wouldn't know. Continue, but you wouldn't know because it's 1689 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,000 Speaker 1: in the Ether's a million artists. Okay, so there's a 1690 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,560 Speaker 1: million niggas that I won't listen to. But when I 1691 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,639 Speaker 1: find a Anderson Park. When I said when I find, 1692 01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 1: you don't find them. The people you're about to mention 1693 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,320 Speaker 1: are people are being promoted by high profile people. But 1694 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't follow high profile too. To Motte, what did 1695 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 1: I accidentally pull into my ship? Because I'm still crazy digging, right, 1696 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm still crazy digging digitally. So when I find some ship, 1697 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 1: I funk with fun with it, and it's the same ship. 1698 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you've got something commercial promotion or 1699 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 1: if it's just straight up Internet promotion of my my 1700 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 1: friends saying something. So I saying something, you know what 1701 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. If it's getting that there's getting out there 1702 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 1: because it's hot, I'm gonna tell you what the difference is. 1703 01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,040 Speaker 1: Why I think the difference is that back in the days, 1704 01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,360 Speaker 1: that's is horrible. That makes me. But back in the days, 1705 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: you needed to work and pay certain dudes to get 1706 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,519 Speaker 1: in a studio, record on tape or whatever the funk 1707 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 1: digital wouldn't matter. DJ F and you you lived in 1708 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,880 Speaker 1: the arrow. No, no, this is a great fall in 1709 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:23,080 Speaker 1: that area. But but we're talking. I don't care. I 1710 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 1: got fucking white hairs and that's cool. But listen, Jan, 1711 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,479 Speaker 1: we've been we we in back to the future in 1712 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,800 Speaker 1: real life. But we're but I'm giving, We're giving the 1713 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:36,720 Speaker 1: comparison though, comparison. What do you think about young Thunk? 1714 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm unsure about. I don't get That's what I was 1715 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to talk about from there. No, no, no, I 1716 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,040 Speaker 1: want to know what is it authentic to whatever he 1717 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 1: comes from that he's wearing what he's wearing like, I 1718 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 1: know the music is read as inonating for sure. The 1719 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,599 Speaker 1: music is resona check this out. I don't even when 1720 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,720 Speaker 1: when A Drake and J Coole first came out at 1721 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,599 Speaker 1: the same time, I didn't understand why Motherfucker's was sucking 1722 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 1: with Jacole because Drink had the better song and it 1723 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,200 Speaker 1: was I forget what it was at the time he had, 1724 01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,840 Speaker 1: but it was a song he were like, let's be 1725 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 1: on honest. Yeah. Well, the difference is the audience has expanded. Difference. Yeah, 1726 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 1: you don't about to say so, Um, Jacole had who 1727 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 1: that who that who that? I thought that was some bullshit. Yeah, 1728 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 1: I was like J Money had who that first? That's 1729 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:38,759 Speaker 1: a Miami niggafy? Yo? Man, what then is up Jacole Niggle? 1730 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 1: Why then popper? You know what he said? He said, Hey, 1731 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,360 Speaker 1: you need to find out why he's popping so you 1732 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: can get yourself popping right now. I believe that that's 1733 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,719 Speaker 1: true because otherwise you don't to be your side fifty won't. 1734 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,680 Speaker 1: I can't down young dog. I just I want to 1735 01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,760 Speaker 1: know where does that come from? Like story, what is 1736 01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: his story going on or something? If I'm at the bar, right, 1737 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm buying a drink, Yeah, I'm looking at what's in 1738 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 1: the bar. I'm in the mood. And and and a 1739 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 1: young Plug record comes on and it's it's says a 1740 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:20,320 Speaker 1: whole chain of events and you have no choice. Is 1741 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 1: music as opposed to like an artist? You know what 1742 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's that you understand when you hit that vein, 1743 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to ask why it's like, Yo, listen 1744 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,880 Speaker 1: because you know why. You know why. I like the 1745 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,040 Speaker 1: new generation. Okay, let me go, you guys go man, 1746 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,080 Speaker 1: let me just listen because I gotta flate focus this 1747 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,880 Speaker 1: is the reason why I'm with combat on this. That's 1748 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,679 Speaker 1: my whole experience movement to Miami. Like I'm a hardcore 1749 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 1: boom bat hip hop left track, I get, I get divorce. 1750 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:04,639 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm doing it. I got no choice. I'm 1751 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 1: going It's not Club eleven, it's gold Rushing. It's gold 1752 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,760 Speaker 1: rushing at the time. I'm going, so be loud. That's 1753 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:16,639 Speaker 1: big up Micah, even though he don't no more stacks stacks. 1754 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 1: So they got me coming out here. And and the 1755 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,439 Speaker 1: thing is, I couldn't easily been that old New York 1756 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,880 Speaker 1: nigger like, well you don't play cog Rat and why 1757 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't gonna play? And I was and and let me, 1758 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,160 Speaker 1: let me, let me just keep it up. Hunting Ecstacy 1759 01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:44,600 Speaker 1: was popping at that time, and so was I, and 1760 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 1: I felt every music in that motherfucker. I was like, 1761 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,560 Speaker 1: what ship? This ship is hot, like this ning is 1762 01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:59,799 Speaker 1: like exactly, and I'm working with it. But it actually 1763 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:04,479 Speaker 1: made me young because I adapted to every environment. Then 1764 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 1: when I went back to New York, I would never 1765 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 1: forget this. I went back to New York, I went 1766 01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,360 Speaker 1: and the same music was playing, and my nigga said, 1767 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 1: why you smile, and I'm like, damn, man, my, yeah, mean, 1768 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,120 Speaker 1: these records is popping, and these niggers just looked at 1769 01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,120 Speaker 1: me like, we don't funk with that over there, And 1770 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 1: I was like, damn. I merely knew I could be 1771 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:30,040 Speaker 1: by coast from that very moment, because I really did 1772 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,599 Speaker 1: feel these records. But when I was in New York, 1773 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,280 Speaker 1: I was really like, I understand why y'all don't feel it, 1774 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,880 Speaker 1: because y'all ain't got palm, bitches, I mean palm. New 1775 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,000 Speaker 1: York is the smallest market on the fucking planet. It's 1776 01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 1: the smallest market, but still the most influence. We had 1777 01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,560 Speaker 1: the most influence that this year. This Now, this is 1778 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,160 Speaker 1: the thing about New York. We've always had the most 1779 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 1: influence until our influence became the major influence and bring down. 1780 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 1: Like when our ship became the stand it when fucking 1781 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,880 Speaker 1: when fucking Dr Dre took public enemy and flipped it 1782 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 1: into n w A and expanded the market. You got 1783 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,640 Speaker 1: you gotta say l A like the West Coast. The 1784 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: West Coast is a market of it of itself that 1785 01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: flips into the South, that flips into up until up 1786 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 1: until Jersey. So when you look at the whole scheme 1787 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,920 Speaker 1: of the music industry. New York is one city and 1788 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,560 Speaker 1: it's the whole fucking New York also fucked up a 1789 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,519 Speaker 1: lot of things because it was so it was organic. 1790 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:40,520 Speaker 1: But when when yes, when New York was too exclusive. 1791 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,479 Speaker 1: But when I'm from I'm from the South region, what 1792 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,880 Speaker 1: New York thought, nobody else can do it like us, 1793 01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 1: that's when you fucked up. That's what I'm saying, because 1794 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,000 Speaker 1: we only want And then what happened every other region. 1795 01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 1: It got so big that people like d C and 1796 01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,640 Speaker 1: Jinja actually started. But DC is the South. D C 1797 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 1: is the sound, yeah, but in the South. But d 1798 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:12,840 Speaker 1: C Niggas is k we described. I lived in d C. 1799 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 1: D is opposite d Niggas. That's East cos in my opinion, 1800 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:30,680 Speaker 1: they're New York Now that's East coast to Georgia. In 1801 01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,320 Speaker 1: I went to Georgetown, push, it stays from the East 1802 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,599 Speaker 1: coast to me when I stayed from when I stayed 1803 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 1: in what I mean, but I love the South. We're 1804 01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,479 Speaker 1: on the East coast, and you know what I'm saying. 1805 01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: You go to graphical so let me take let me 1806 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,160 Speaker 1: say that. But that's where it goes wrong though. That's 1807 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,479 Speaker 1: listen coming from an E P M D Run DMC, 1808 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:55,479 Speaker 1: Big Daddy came rock him in environment and in the 1809 01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,800 Speaker 1: eighties living in Georgetown three, I went to Georgetown Law 1810 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:01,760 Speaker 1: for three years. I'm in d C. That's when he 1811 01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,519 Speaker 1: went to and the only nigga they're playing from New 1812 01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 1: York is Kumo D Kumo D. I'm like, this is 1813 01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,519 Speaker 1: his country, you see his country. They're not fucking with 1814 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 1: the niggas that we funk with. They fun with country niggas. 1815 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 1: When they say that again in d C. In d 1816 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,080 Speaker 1: C in the eighties, I'm with rock Cam, Big Daddy 1817 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,640 Speaker 1: came EPMD. I go to I go to DC and 1818 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,439 Speaker 1: the only rap nigga they're playing, it's Komo D. Who's 1819 01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 1: the only Who's the country is nigga out of New York. Yeah, 1820 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,000 Speaker 1: when you say country is that sounds very I don't 1821 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,680 Speaker 1: like it. Why do you say that? Why do you 1822 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:46,759 Speaker 1: say because him South niggas and his two New York sounds? 1823 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,000 Speaker 1: Why you don't like that? And let me tell you 1824 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 1: when I when I was coming up man Indicata and stuff, 1825 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of New York niggers was coming down 1826 01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 1: to you understand Grove, you know, and all schools and ship. 1827 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,880 Speaker 1: Everybody thought they was smarter than that stuff. We thought 1828 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,479 Speaker 1: it was a game and ship. We're just having a 1829 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 1: Southern drawl. Don't get it confused. Just like you know 1830 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, uh with Tony Nis ain't playing the South. 1831 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,680 Speaker 1: We we beat New you up, niggas up. I'm not 1832 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not God. Two changes flipped on you. I agree 1833 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:35,000 Speaker 1: with you, add what you you favored to change over? 1834 01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:40,640 Speaker 1: Men like I ain't got gooms to you already apologize. 1835 01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,599 Speaker 1: I can't go back. I can't say that. I ain't 1836 01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 1: say that at all. I didn't say that we have 1837 01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:51,760 Speaker 1: to order some food. We made some hip hop. Can 1838 01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 1: we go to somebody? But that's even gonna be the game. 1839 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,479 Speaker 1: Kids to be conversation going why you didn't got to 1840 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 1: get a bit of gamester and my opinion in my opinion, 1841 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 1: um because you know, you know what somebody told me. 1842 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,680 Speaker 1: Somebody told me one day there was like you're a 1843 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: New York nigger that understood the South early. Yeah, super 1844 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,360 Speaker 1: super thug was our was our was our beat? Was 1845 01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 1: our realized they kind of jumping us, Jack, are you 1846 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,559 Speaker 1: with me? Still? Listen? Listen? How are jumping You don't Listen, listen. 1847 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:28,040 Speaker 1: I know I'm right. Listen, right in your heart, you 1848 01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: know I'm right. All right, Come the wind beneath your wings, 1849 01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 1: speak to the mist podcast get here you. I don't 1850 01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,240 Speaker 1: know why I passed the blunt or who I passed 1851 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,840 Speaker 1: it too, but it was a bad move. Listen, so listen. 1852 01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 1: A lot of niggas told me that when I you 1853 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 1: know this super Doug, but a lot of people didn't. 1854 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 1: They said that, you know, I understood the understood the South. 1855 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,800 Speaker 1: Think about who super thug. Yes, I'm popping him the South. 1856 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,519 Speaker 1: I'm getting to that. But what I'm saying is, at 1857 01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 1: first nobody you knew who the fun These people were 1858 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 1: absolutely didn't know who this This is two years after 1859 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,799 Speaker 1: the record is a hit, and then he produced for Mystical, 1860 01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,759 Speaker 1: and then they produced for Whole and then they actually 1861 01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,880 Speaker 1: claimed this is a South sound. But I already got 1862 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 1: two albums. I got n O R E, which nobody 1863 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,560 Speaker 1: at this time. I brought him to every artist in 1864 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: the world. It wasn'utntil old non. What you believe is 1865 01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,719 Speaker 1: the Melvin Flint, I'm not sure I could be bugging. 1866 01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:38,120 Speaker 1: And after that, every artist ran to the nigger. But 1867 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is At first people could not identify 1868 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:47,360 Speaker 1: where that sound came from. But afterwards people said that 1869 01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,880 Speaker 1: I was up early on on the South Sound. And 1870 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:54,280 Speaker 1: that's great, that take that. But I always looked at 1871 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:59,480 Speaker 1: Virginia as Virginia was at East coast state Virginia Maryland, 1872 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,800 Speaker 1: Virginia for the more, the capital of the south of 1873 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,080 Speaker 1: the Confederacy. Yeah, but them niggas is them niggas is 1874 01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:10,679 Speaker 1: New York crazy East Coast in me, you don't agree, 1875 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:15,360 Speaker 1: He looked at me, crazy, I'm just drunk right now. 1876 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,760 Speaker 1: To me, South stars at South Coast. Like Pip Pipsie 1877 01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:24,000 Speaker 1: had had this argument. He said that people from Atlanta 1878 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,519 Speaker 1: wasn't really people Atlanta because he said, y'all. Same time, 1879 01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,040 Speaker 1: it's on the East coast. Remember he said that Jersey 1880 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,479 Speaker 1: nigg is the South to me, Oh, come on South. 1881 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:43,320 Speaker 1: To me, that's your name. That's crazy. That's why New 1882 01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: York is sucking up like I'm bringing back there. But 1883 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm green to that. But when you go to Jersey, 1884 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,840 Speaker 1: the hip hop is so different. But let me tell 1885 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 1: you right real quick, a little I wouldn't say country 1886 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,920 Speaker 1: though it's just a friend. I would saying my boys 1887 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,720 Speaker 1: down here. My crew, we all united and a lot 1888 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,600 Speaker 1: of them are from Jersey, and we always had this 1889 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,559 Speaker 1: thing against the New York hats that were that were 1890 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: coming down to Miami because they were now always just 1891 01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 1: trying to like deepo their way in. And it was 1892 01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 1: funny because the New Jersey with me and they got 1893 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,599 Speaker 1: it because they were getting it like that you said 1894 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,200 Speaker 1: right now, they wasn't feeling that, you know what I'm saying. Look, 1895 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,760 Speaker 1: Jersey niggas was still two change. Got you funked up 1896 01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 1: thinking about But let's not okay, okay, let's let me 1897 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: ask the fact that you're saying sound I feel like 1898 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:39,600 Speaker 1: you might. Let me ask you. I'm ready for whatever that. 1899 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,680 Speaker 1: Don't place value what I'm saying. Don't place value what 1900 01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 1: i'm saying because let combat talk combat. Don't place value 1901 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,519 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, don't don't don't play good or bad. 1902 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:58,640 Speaker 1: As a Brooklyn cat. Whenever we got into Jersey, it 1903 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,439 Speaker 1: was different. And the further we got from Jersey, the 1904 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,280 Speaker 1: more south became. So for me as a Brooklyn nigga, 1905 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,240 Speaker 1: the minute you cross Jersey, you're going further south. That's 1906 01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,680 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. It's not out of disrespect. It's it's 1907 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:15,360 Speaker 1: out of it. But you don't think that mentality is 1908 01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:19,479 Speaker 1: what I got to say something I agree with nothing 1909 01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 1: this nigga just said just now because because to me, 1910 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, Philly was my number one market on steroids 1911 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:36,280 Speaker 1: in my opinions, is different, No, but it was no. 1912 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:43,639 Speaker 1: Philly niggas was just as grimy as the early Square Mall. 1913 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:51,080 Speaker 1: That what I'm saying is it me, I'll be Square 1914 01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 1: more downtown where you had to get your fronts and 1915 01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,360 Speaker 1: pull your gun out. What got them all for the 1916 01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,800 Speaker 1: next level? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what we're 1917 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:10,479 Speaker 1: saying you got the next level. You remember that DJ 1918 01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,680 Speaker 1: quick record. Everybody's like Compton. I mean, I don't know 1919 01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,600 Speaker 1: if that's exact term, but that made sense. He was like, 1920 01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,679 Speaker 1: I'm a Compton dude. But when I went out of town, 1921 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 1: everybody's like, everybody's hard. Everybody's But at the same time, 1922 01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is this, What I'm saying is this 1923 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:32,559 Speaker 1: Berrow to Barrow, city to city niggas played different. Yes 1924 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,240 Speaker 1: with that, So when you go to Philly, when you 1925 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,040 Speaker 1: go to Philly, like these niggas look like Brooklyn niggas. 1926 01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,720 Speaker 1: These niggas look like New York niggas, but the wrong term, 1927 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:46,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But then is different, So you 1928 01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 1: gotta understand. And this is the beautiful thing about culture 1929 01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 1: black white black, like just the d sport of black. 1930 01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,519 Speaker 1: When you go into a different culture, you gotta understand that, 1931 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,320 Speaker 1: ship expect that, and humble yourself. It's true. So New 1932 01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 1: York niggas coming to feeling like this is New York, 1933 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,640 Speaker 1: maybe we will lay you the funk down, right. You 1934 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,840 Speaker 1: gotta respect when you go. Know. But but what I'm 1935 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 1: trying to say is for me, for me, for my experience. 1936 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:22,280 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I came up ninety seven. 1937 01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,720 Speaker 1: I started going on the road from seven. I went 1938 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,000 Speaker 1: from New York. I went from Camden, New Jersey. I 1939 01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,280 Speaker 1: went from Trenton. I went from uh skipped, I skipped 1940 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,720 Speaker 1: new Work. I'm going to the whole nunty five. I 1941 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,280 Speaker 1: skipped Newark. Excuse me. I started in Nework. Then I 1942 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,479 Speaker 1: went to camp. Then I went to Trenton, and then 1943 01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,800 Speaker 1: from there I went to Philly, phill it was my 1944 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:48,320 Speaker 1: number one market. From Philly, I went to a Connecticut Uhlware, Delaware. 1945 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,640 Speaker 1: I went to Maryland. I went to Bordom All I 1946 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:56,120 Speaker 1: went to d C. D when you hit the DC 1947 01:48:56,439 --> 01:49:00,240 Speaker 1: never changed. I'm saying, there's always I'm saying, as the 1948 01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:06,240 Speaker 1: journey went through once with d C, Yeah, the market blossom. No, 1949 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,320 Speaker 1: the market was already blossom. But the only time I 1950 01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 1: felt like I was like in a in a different 1951 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,160 Speaker 1: market was when I went to South Carolina. And the 1952 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,000 Speaker 1: only reason why I felt like that, it's because South 1953 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,800 Speaker 1: Carolina and niggas was throwing chairs and other niggas in 1954 01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 1: the crowd, and I thought that was the gangster ship 1955 01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,200 Speaker 1: in the world. I was like, oh ship, chairs, ain't 1956 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,240 Speaker 1: buckle down, you know like in Apollo and sing like 1957 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,479 Speaker 1: that your chance is buckled down. And then when I 1958 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,040 Speaker 1: went to South Carolina, said, these niggas as crazy as 1959 01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,519 Speaker 1: the motherfucker. And then I went to Durham and them 1960 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,040 Speaker 1: niggas was crazy as the motherfucker. I went to Raleigh, 1961 01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:42,600 Speaker 1: them niggas as crazy as the motherfucker, Charleston everywhere. So 1962 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,559 Speaker 1: all I've realized. I realized that we're all the same 1963 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 1: fucking people. The South started and it was a little 1964 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:56,040 Speaker 1: bit more crazy as far as like, you know, throwing 1965 01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:59,720 Speaker 1: kids and just getting that motherfucker's but I realized we're 1966 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,439 Speaker 1: all the same. But um, you know, I always considered 1967 01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:05,960 Speaker 1: that part East Coast. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't mind, 1968 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,800 Speaker 1: but it's going in the South. And once again, I'm 1969 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:16,240 Speaker 1: not taking anything what you said because I'm because because 1970 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,040 Speaker 1: you see niggas in New York turned up and like, 1971 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,719 Speaker 1: that's a New York nigga, exactly when you get to Jersey, 1972 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,360 Speaker 1: niggas turned up differently. Yeah, but I still feel that, 1973 01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's one of my best friends 1974 01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:33,360 Speaker 1: and family, New York, New Jersey saying, I'm saying this family. 1975 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 1: But I used to look at him like he flipped 1976 01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,479 Speaker 1: like a New Jersey nigga. And then what I'm saying, 1977 01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,000 Speaker 1: did I see him flip with the New York nigga? 1978 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:47,240 Speaker 1: I said, this Nigga's just yeah, that's the same ship 1979 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,559 Speaker 1: to me. But I understand what he's saying because it's 1980 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,760 Speaker 1: ever get it. What I'm saying is this. What I'm 1981 01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:55,800 Speaker 1: saying is this, this is this is boiling the ship down, 1982 01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:01,280 Speaker 1: drinking this fucking vodka right now, and we're drinking Royal Elite. 1983 01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:09,600 Speaker 1: Make Fat Joe, no matter where you go, he had 1984 01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,000 Speaker 1: a block or a neighborhood or a city or town 1985 01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 1: your trial. But when you see a trial from a 1986 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,880 Speaker 1: different place, it's like I understand which which we're trying. 1987 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,080 Speaker 1: It's a family, you know what I'm saying. You might 1988 01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:22,760 Speaker 1: do some ship to the left, I might do, but 1989 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:26,760 Speaker 1: with family, it's family. And then when you when you 1990 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,959 Speaker 1: incorporate all the differences, that's when you can really appreciate 1991 01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,760 Speaker 1: family and you understand what I'm saying. You like that 1992 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,840 Speaker 1: family respect how you do you respect? But at the 1993 01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, like together, live together at the 1994 01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:45,080 Speaker 1: end of the day. From the moment I came to Miami, 1995 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,680 Speaker 1: he brought me to his store, and he knew for 1996 01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,679 Speaker 1: my music the type of person I asked. He didn't 1997 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,240 Speaker 1: have to test me. He knew from the type of 1998 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:57,439 Speaker 1: person I so accordingly he made it right the way 1999 01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:01,000 Speaker 1: it is, and me and him been of friends forever. 2000 01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,880 Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to say one decade, because I'm trying 2001 01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,439 Speaker 1: to be young man. He just keeping he's keeping going. 2002 01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,600 Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is we get that. 2003 01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:15,040 Speaker 1: But the thing about it is everybody is that's the 2004 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,040 Speaker 1: thing where me and him is still friends for twenty 2005 01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 1: years later because he gets that. It doesn't. We fight 2006 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,200 Speaker 1: like brothers, no, like every day, almost every day, but 2007 01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 1: we keep it moving. God, damn my god, bless you, 2008 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 1: God damn it. You don't even know what drink you 2009 01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,360 Speaker 1: got in your car. Yeah, Colombian white, that's bigger Colombian way. 2010 01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I haven't been bigger Colombian white. Video were 2011 01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:42,920 Speaker 1: talking about Moss Petty. So as we're talking about Petty, 2012 01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:47,439 Speaker 1: two changes really flipped on your dog. He was, but 2013 01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,599 Speaker 1: you said apologize to do not you cannot take it back. 2014 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm listening. Watch is pretty nice set because I don't 2015 01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,680 Speaker 1: even think you about to go someway. I don't want 2016 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:04,280 Speaker 1: to go, so I gotta cut you off. Y'all think 2017 01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,240 Speaker 1: when I cut people off that i'm cutting off. They 2018 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,000 Speaker 1: know I'm cutting them all because I know where the 2019 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:11,920 Speaker 1: story ends. That Watch is pretty nice. How are you doing? 2020 01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,280 Speaker 1: How do you know? I want to say something better, 2021 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,200 Speaker 1: say something positive. I want to say is I just 2022 01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,800 Speaker 1: wanted him to know that I'm a man, and I 2023 01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't know sucker, and I didn't want him to know 2024 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,759 Speaker 1: that I'm a man, but I felt like I ain't sucker, 2025 01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,600 Speaker 1: and what you this came just be saying things about me. 2026 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,519 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because I said I'm sorry 2027 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,760 Speaker 1: to his face. No, I don't even accepted it wasn't 2028 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:45,760 Speaker 1: on the except let something is on the internet. If 2029 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,320 Speaker 1: you don't respond to it on the internet, then that 2030 01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,880 Speaker 1: can I say something to you that don't count? North 2031 01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,479 Speaker 1: You got all jokes aside. No, this is all Joseph's side. 2032 01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,960 Speaker 1: I gave you that. L Listen, Listen, I'm gonna say 2033 01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,759 Speaker 1: you should apologize that. I'm gonna say saying me. Listen, 2034 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm twenty two, three years old. After defel band 2035 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:10,680 Speaker 1: boy come out right and I my mom at uh, 2036 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:18,240 Speaker 1: Philip Serena, it's bonn Uh. Vonner Brothers has show to 2037 01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 1: Chains Circus. No, the Bonner Brothers. It's a it's a 2038 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 1: hair show. And I go up to two Chains and 2039 01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:31,760 Speaker 1: dollar there there there Uh it was playing circle and 2040 01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,120 Speaker 1: I interviewed them and whatnot, and I'm I'm a fan 2041 01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:38,840 Speaker 1: of them, and I say, what was happening? First? And first, Uh, 2042 01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:43,080 Speaker 1: the first rap fi I've ever seen, first famous person 2043 01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:44,880 Speaker 1: I've seen. When I moved up. He was two Chains, 2044 01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,200 Speaker 1: but he was TV boy. I know who he is. 2045 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,760 Speaker 1: I was a fan and when he said, what are 2046 01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:54,160 Speaker 1: he's saying about me? It hurts my feelings and I 2047 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:58,080 Speaker 1: didn't like it. And I ain't never been no sucker, 2048 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,920 Speaker 1: even though I got one out, I thought, ever since 2049 01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 1: I was five years old. But trying no no, no nori, 2050 01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,880 Speaker 1: ever since I was fat, trying to let niggas know 2051 01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 1: I ain't no sucker. So if he game, he can 2052 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,360 Speaker 1: get it. But if I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 2053 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this, 2054 01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,360 Speaker 1: if anything't happened to me, if anything happened to me, 2055 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:31,160 Speaker 1: am doing ain't We don't fighting. We don't fight. And 2056 01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm serious, you sniffer go to he look like real nick. 2057 01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know what it is. Yeah, come on, man, 2058 01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:47,600 Speaker 1: we about peace right here. That's not what I said. 2059 01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:57,000 Speaker 1: He I never sing at you, apologize and say because 2060 01:55:57,040 --> 01:56:00,160 Speaker 1: you said I said your dream chance army makes this 2061 01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,960 Speaker 1: sweet mother. I didn't know you niggas have real beat. 2062 01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,520 Speaker 1: It's for the culture man ship. Man, y'all don't know. 2063 01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:14,560 Speaker 1: We are here September nine and Club Drain September Timp 2064 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,280 Speaker 1: hit him with the barbecue. You know what I'm saying. 2065 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:20,280 Speaker 1: Combat Jack coming out he said coming out back. Let 2066 01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:23,960 Speaker 1: he coming out. He gonna help us host the podcast. 2067 01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna control. They should be the lot ofator that 2068 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,840 Speaker 1: now we're not making. That would be amazing. Yes, maybe 2069 01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:36,520 Speaker 1: a riff to help, Yeah, you know all that. And 2070 01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:41,080 Speaker 1: Jack try he's like sticky biggers. You don't wait, he 2071 01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:46,600 Speaker 1: thinks he cut them over it. Na, Na, I can't. 2072 01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I'm sorry, I ain't no comedia. 2073 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,520 Speaker 1: I can't have this twice I had that last year. 2074 01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:07,480 Speaker 1: You ain't know what do you man? What I did? 2075 01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know if this is it's funny or not. 2076 01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:21,160 Speaker 1: A few years back, we abruptly lost its legendary m 2077 01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,640 Speaker 1: C and his loss affected us not just as fans, 2078 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 1: but as a family. We considered Prodigy a brother of ours, 2079 01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, especially Nori, who had just seen him not 2080 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,800 Speaker 1: too long ago before he passed away, and we regretted 2081 01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:34,520 Speaker 1: that we could never you know, we never had him 2082 01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:38,080 Speaker 1: on drink Champs. And to think, you know that Nori's journey, 2083 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, a big part of that was helped through 2084 01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 1: through through mob Deep and their legacy and what CNN 2085 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 1: did with l A l A and and all of that. 2086 01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,240 Speaker 1: So it really we felt that one. And and in 2087 01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:54,520 Speaker 1: these next few stories you'll hear from a fellow m 2088 01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,960 Speaker 1: C who was closest to Prodigy. It was his partner 2089 01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:01,800 Speaker 1: in rhyme, his producer, his friend. Here's having a mob 2090 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:12,080 Speaker 1: deep um speaking on Prodigy. Yeah, so you know, y'all 2091 01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,080 Speaker 1: history is so crazy. So you were you and P 2092 01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:19,720 Speaker 1: because P is originally from Long Island, y'all connected. Queen 2093 01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,760 Speaker 1: P is from originally from from what I know, he's 2094 01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:28,680 Speaker 1: from like Queen's and then his let sounds the best. 2095 01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:33,640 Speaker 1: Not only the liquor, but they provided the females because 2096 01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,000 Speaker 1: Having is here and he's a very special guest. He's 2097 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:39,200 Speaker 1: a glassic guy and they gotta spat and kindle. They 2098 01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:43,320 Speaker 1: got a spot to Schwatson. I don't know to pronounced 2099 01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:47,400 Speaker 1: that that Yeah, sound like that sounds like orange but 2100 01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:52,280 Speaker 1: it is in Spanish. That and and Cutler Bay they 2101 01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:55,800 Speaker 1: got the licker. So happy whenever you are best buy liquers, man, 2102 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,560 Speaker 1: what's the Instagram best buy liquors? Right? Is that what 2103 01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,760 Speaker 1: it is at best Buy liquors? Man? Definitely looking now 2104 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:06,560 Speaker 1: so have man? You know, um, so you said, y'all, yeah, yeah, 2105 01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:08,840 Speaker 1: he's from Wising from that friend from that front. And 2106 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 1: when I met with the police, the police, this is 2107 01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,200 Speaker 1: not that's not a false along. Oh they kept it moving, 2108 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,960 Speaker 1: it wanted to stop. It was weird. It was weird. 2109 01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,720 Speaker 1: It was weird. And we have we're not friend. Is 2110 01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,240 Speaker 1: the first time we haven't had police the second time 2111 01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:30,880 Speaker 1: that oh that wasn't here. We're not faking, We're not faking. 2112 01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:36,320 Speaker 1: That's what we had was when the police pulled at 2113 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:40,560 Speaker 1: all all. So so you guys were wol age when 2114 01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:43,680 Speaker 1: you connected. When I first met Pa, y'all didn't say 2115 01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:45,400 Speaker 1: why y'all calling people? Come on and we don't know 2116 01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:50,600 Speaker 1: y're talking like families should. He was sure. But I 2117 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:52,880 Speaker 1: met him when I was fifteen, right, I met him 2118 01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,960 Speaker 1: in on this high school whatever whatever. He used to 2119 01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:59,160 Speaker 1: have maggiy on and it was blond. You know what 2120 01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He didn't have back in the day's Kami 2121 02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:07,040 Speaker 1: used to st he had the whole thing. He used 2122 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:11,280 Speaker 1: to call him to go to the challenge but with me, 2123 02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:13,840 Speaker 1: but he was, you know, he was the cool. Last 2124 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,840 Speaker 1: look at what I'm saying that we connected and then 2125 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:20,000 Speaker 1: so um when y'all met, was it instantly like yo, 2126 02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:23,920 Speaker 1: he told you he does music or like, how how 2127 02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:26,600 Speaker 1: was it initially first met, Like no, because we used 2128 02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to be Yeah, we used to be in the lunch 2129 02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,320 Speaker 1: room and they used to be freet Staling at the tables. 2130 02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:31,800 Speaker 1: He was one of them, is freet Staling, And I 2131 02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,920 Speaker 1: used to feast that blah blah blah blah. And then 2132 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,920 Speaker 1: as soon as we met, it was like instant friends. 2133 02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Like instant friends, like instant you know what I mean. 2134 02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,200 Speaker 1: And and he was rapping at the time on because 2135 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I heard, um, you wrote his first round. I mean 2136 02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:47,760 Speaker 1: he used to. He used to have his own rhymes 2137 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you know when we got 2138 02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,440 Speaker 1: a deal and stuff like that. You know, I used 2139 02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:55,920 Speaker 1: to write and whatever. He didn't need it, but he 2140 02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:03,840 Speaker 1: first round. Ready over here on listen, Man, you're gonna loosen. 2141 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 1: You gotta keep drinking. You do you want to drink? Amanda, 2142 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I look, I'm floss. Amanda is very pretty. She's on 2143 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,640 Speaker 1: the podcast What Us. She's from Best Buy Liquors. You're 2144 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,360 Speaker 1: trying to show off for you have, Yeah, we've never 2145 02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,400 Speaker 1: we never had this. We never had this best book 2146 02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:24,080 Speaker 1: at we're pulling all the stipe for you. Yeah, though, man, 2147 02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I love this show so listen, fathers, they just passed. 2148 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,760 Speaker 1: How many? How many Bullstons you pay for in your life? 2149 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:33,360 Speaker 1: How many it's not like you said, Boston's bush? How 2150 02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:38,400 Speaker 1: many bush for my life? Keep it real? Keep I 2151 02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:41,600 Speaker 1: say like too, because like like to, like to, I've 2152 02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:43,440 Speaker 1: gotta disagree with you. I gotta say how many like 2153 02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I just I just Although we're dedicating this episode um 2154 02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:52,880 Speaker 1: to those that we've lost in no ways, this too 2155 02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:57,920 Speaker 1: to bring down the mood. Drink Champs was created in 2156 02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:01,840 Speaker 1: a in a in good spirit to to enjoy life 2157 02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:04,680 Speaker 1: and celebrate life. And we've shared some hilarious stories on 2158 02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Drink Champs, but these next ones are some of the best. 2159 02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Check these out your backpack on if you Always Princess 2160 02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,800 Speaker 1: God to all of us as far as making music 2161 02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and art, music, creative coaches, finest broads ye and your 2162 02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:26,240 Speaker 1: first time meeting press when you first subscribed. Shout out 2163 02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:28,640 Speaker 1: to dj Q my wife, dj Q, I like, I 2164 02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,800 Speaker 1: like how you pick up your wife. God damn high fives, 2165 02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Hi five real ship. Let's make some noise for that 2166 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:42,560 Speaker 1: l A right, she didn't stretch right and she she's 2167 02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,960 Speaker 1: a she's a world class famous DJ. And Prince got 2168 02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,480 Speaker 1: to liking her DJ skills. She became a lection wife 2169 02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:52,120 Speaker 1: work with Prince. This is not starting out. This is 2170 02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:54,720 Speaker 1: not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a 2171 02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:57,320 Speaker 1: jealous guy, Prince. You I listen, Prince, you gotta get 2172 02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,840 Speaker 1: the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma. 2173 02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, stop dold. No, she was DJ and his parties. 2174 02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:09,520 Speaker 1: You know what. And by this time when I met Prince, 2175 02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,200 Speaker 1: the first time met Prince was maybe a house of 2176 02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:13,280 Speaker 1: blues l a M. She was DJ. You know he 2177 02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 1: did he float? Now, he didn't levitate to float. He didn't. 2178 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:20,760 Speaker 1: He had a secon back. Prince. Prince knew his hip 2179 02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:22,320 Speaker 1: hop when I first met him. You know what I'm saying, 2180 02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Like he knew, but he knew certain type of hip 2181 02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:27,000 Speaker 1: he knew like Common. He like like Common. I am. 2182 02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:29,520 Speaker 1: And it was like he likes certain things into something. 2183 02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:31,160 Speaker 1: He like hip hop, and he like hip hop that 2184 02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:34,520 Speaker 1: was a little bit more like organic. I was saying, 2185 02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Like he liked like Lauren Hill, you know, like Common, 2186 02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Like he really liked Common a lot, Like he's a 2187 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Common fan. He was saying, and and and Common is 2188 02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:45,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Common work with him at all. 2189 02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if common common might have worked. Prince. 2190 02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,200 Speaker 1: He like Erica, but I do a lot. You know 2191 02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:54,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like Prince I met Yeah, I guess yeah. 2192 02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:55,600 Speaker 1: So when I met him, he said I like that. 2193 02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:57,000 Speaker 1: He said, like, I like that one. So you got 2194 02:03:57,040 --> 02:03:59,120 Speaker 1: hot thing? I was saying, I have, so will I 2195 02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,160 Speaker 1: am hot thing with him? Was on the hook and 2196 02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:03,320 Speaker 1: he liked he liked when I am a black eyed 2197 02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,840 Speaker 1: peas and that type of ship. Um. I started just 2198 02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:07,880 Speaker 1: hanging out doing parties. You know my wife, My wife 2199 02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:10,280 Speaker 1: would do parties. Prince were shot up at the parties. 2200 02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:12,440 Speaker 1: He was just short, hold on, how does this happen? 2201 02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks 2202 02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:20,040 Speaker 1: in the basketball like yeah, no, no, no, I'm starting 2203 02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,160 Speaker 1: the party. He walking the party. You know, I went 2204 02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:25,520 Speaker 1: to a party once in l A. What's that club 2205 02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:28,600 Speaker 1: that's across the street from the Beverly Center. The club 2206 02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:34,400 Speaker 1: that's the name is Prince walked in the club ended in. 2207 02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:38,480 Speaker 1: Prince kept a bunch of us in the club and 2208 02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:41,440 Speaker 1: at gunpoint, no, not a good point, but he's Prince. 2209 02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:44,200 Speaker 1: He just did to look almost gun point and everybody stayed. 2210 02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:51,000 Speaker 1: He put out a little bible Wait, Prince, he's he's 2211 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:55,280 Speaker 1: in Jehovah's witness. Wait, and Jehovah's witness. They get down 2212 02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,680 Speaker 1: like that, they bring bibles. He started having Bible studies. 2213 02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:02,560 Speaker 1: You three, and morning was niggas drinking. There was no 2214 02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:07,080 Speaker 1: niggas there. It's only women and me because my wife 2215 02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,120 Speaker 1: DJ so I was the only nigga. And there was 2216 02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,720 Speaker 1: one other dude who was a boyfriend of one of 2217 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,520 Speaker 1: the other girls. So it's Prince and me and this 2218 02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,240 Speaker 1: other dude. All right, don't pass that. This other niggas 2219 02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:20,240 Speaker 1: passing back to me. I got you this other dude, Prince. 2220 02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Prince was quoting, he's quoting the Bible, and this other 2221 02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:27,480 Speaker 1: dude trying to say something smart. And now this other 2222 02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:30,560 Speaker 1: dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay, he just 2223 02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:33,200 Speaker 1: happened to be there. He tried to say something and Prince, 2224 02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. Prince said, Listen, Um, I know 2225 02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:39,440 Speaker 1: you think that you're saying something to add onto the conversation, 2226 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,680 Speaker 1: but you really you know what I'm saying. From what 2227 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,040 Speaker 1: you're saying, I can tell you don't know what you're 2228 02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:46,160 Speaker 1: talking about. So how about you just not participating? The 2229 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Prince about the whipper Nigga asked, but I'm asking was 2230 02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,920 Speaker 1: He politely told him, you don't know the funk you're 2231 02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:57,240 Speaker 1: talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No, he did not. 2232 02:05:57,640 --> 02:06:00,640 Speaker 1: He did not. I've been. I've been several clubs and 2233 02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Princes had chuck keep his clothes, keep going on to 2234 02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:06,480 Speaker 1: sprint stories the club? Do you have been? The Zeni 2235 02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,680 Speaker 1: and I l A they used at the party called Zeni. 2236 02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,040 Speaker 1: They used to happen. I have Big Zini before because 2237 02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Big z at two o'clock in the morning, the clubs 2238 02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,360 Speaker 1: and l A clothes all right, yes, and then and 2239 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,200 Speaker 1: then the dude used to have this party called Zeni. 2240 02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:24,879 Speaker 1: We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios. 2241 02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,840 Speaker 1: Jim Henson, right, and need to know these types of 2242 02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,840 Speaker 1: people I live, come on party when I'm bad. I know. Yeah, 2243 02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with big Big Bird with Ernie and 2244 02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,040 Speaker 1: Bart and Bird and Ship. You know what I'm saying. 2245 02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:39,040 Speaker 1: But he's at these parties. But they used to bring 2246 02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:41,360 Speaker 1: the alcohol and they used to set up stay you 2247 02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:43,960 Speaker 1: just have go go dances and all the celebrities used 2248 02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:48,080 Speaker 1: to go, and all the basketball players and that's it. 2249 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:55,200 Speaker 1: He's definitely. I was with l A prince called my 2250 02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:57,000 Speaker 1: wife and he said, wait, the party at and we 2251 02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:00,240 Speaker 1: said we had ZENI yeah, he said I'm coming. And 2252 02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,200 Speaker 1: this nigger just rolled up and told I had the 2253 02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:06,200 Speaker 1: privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen, I'm bringing Prince. 2254 02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,600 Speaker 1: I got a Justin Biebers story. When you finish, I'm 2255 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,600 Speaker 1: bringing prince. How the hell is just prince going together? 2256 02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Because Justin Biebers said that what Prince hain't the only 2257 02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:23,360 Speaker 1: nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't remember that. This 2258 02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:26,880 Speaker 1: great hate when to be cut us all. Like the 2259 02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:31,760 Speaker 1: Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing and 2260 02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,640 Speaker 1: he said, this party is great, but why is she 2261 02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:36,960 Speaker 1: up there dancing with no clothes on? She was, he 2262 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,280 Speaker 1: had clothes on, she things covered, But he said why 2263 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:40,800 Speaker 1: She just said, they don't need to be that, you know, 2264 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,920 Speaker 1: because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince. This is not 2265 02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the last dragon Prince, because this is not like, definitely 2266 02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:54,360 Speaker 1: not the Prince wild back in the days in the eighties, 2267 02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,400 Speaker 1: he was out of control. So I said, listen out. 2268 02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:59,560 Speaker 1: He asked me to introduce him to the party promoter. 2269 02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I introduce him, and he said. He explained to me. 2270 02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,320 Speaker 1: He said, listen to girls. They bring business people by drinks. 2271 02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Prince and let me talk to her. You're trying to convert. 2272 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:09,840 Speaker 1: Let me talk to her. Need to hear this, saying 2273 02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:12,320 Speaker 1: the girl. He talked to the girl. The girl didn't 2274 02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:16,640 Speaker 1: know who Prince was. Same young chick, young chick dance 2275 02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,520 Speaker 1: in the club. She might have heard the name Prince. 2276 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:22,640 Speaker 1: She didn't know. She's gonna die at night. This is 2277 02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:28,400 Speaker 1: a long time ago. The story, the old story. She turned. 2278 02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,040 Speaker 1: He said. He said, how much are they paying you 2279 02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,760 Speaker 1: to be in to dance with your clothes off? She 2280 02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:37,880 Speaker 1: said the number? He said, I'll pay you double to 2281 02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:41,120 Speaker 1: get down off that stage. Go home. Let's make the 2282 02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:46,760 Speaker 1: noise of it. Prints being a trick? Is that reverse pimper? 2283 02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Put your clothes on? Prince invented reverse pimping. She said, 2284 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:54,600 Speaker 1: I'll take your money tonight, but what am I going 2285 02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:57,640 Speaker 1: to do tomorrow night? That's what this girl said to Prince. 2286 02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:02,440 Speaker 1: I want response. What was his? He said, I don't 2287 02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:10,960 Speaker 1: have no control for that. That's real that I got 2288 02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:17,240 Speaker 1: to why your motherfucker? I'm not gonna calla verbat him 2289 02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:23,520 Speaker 1: sounds he did say that. Beyond that, he basically explained 2290 02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:25,040 Speaker 1: to her. He was like, listen, I'm giving you an 2291 02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:28,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to make a different decision in your life. I'm saying. 2292 02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I watched him explain to this girl and talk to 2293 02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:31,600 Speaker 1: the girl, and I knew from the way that she 2294 02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:34,000 Speaker 1: was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy. 2295 02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:37,200 Speaker 1: She didn't understand. She was just like, Okay, yeah, Prince 2296 02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:40,360 Speaker 1: had an album covered with like three bitches button neked 2297 02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:43,080 Speaker 1: on top of him, maybe some dudes and everybody thought 2298 02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:51,920 Speaker 1: he was gay. He wasn't ready for your princess. Princes God, Yeah, 2299 02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:55,640 Speaker 1: he stuck to his guns and he understood every artist. 2300 02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:58,800 Speaker 1: And me and Nori, the fact that we even here 2301 02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:04,040 Speaker 1: doing drink champs can we talking about about we understand 2302 02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:07,400 Speaker 1: that every artists got contradictions nature of being an artist. 2303 02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:11,560 Speaker 1: It's true, Hirst One, the person that we revere is 2304 02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:15,400 Speaker 1: the most contradictory artists whatever, But we were That's part 2305 02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:18,280 Speaker 1: of being human, like you said, being because all human 2306 02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:22,840 Speaker 1: beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions amplified because people pay 2307 02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:26,760 Speaker 1: more attention. You say, everybody got contradictions. Artists, we just 2308 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:32,800 Speaker 1: we create out of our contradiction, right, But Prince was 2309 02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:36,960 Speaker 1: like Jesus man, listen, we tell you something I've never liked. 2310 02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:40,600 Speaker 1: Billy Dee Williams transcended for me. Like, what I mean 2311 02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:44,560 Speaker 1: by that is like Billy Dee Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince 2312 02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:48,360 Speaker 1: and Michael Jackson was people who were like, you know, 2313 02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:51,200 Speaker 1: I grew up in a different you know, a different time, 2314 02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:53,440 Speaker 1: were like that. He did, Billy d Williamson, that's a 2315 02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:57,760 Speaker 1: good nig with Michael Jackson and Prince, and they said, 2316 02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:01,320 Speaker 1: Billy d those were certain people. You know, those are 2317 02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:13,200 Speaker 1: certain people. Yeah, drink, I'm still going in the secondary. 2318 02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,000 Speaker 1: That's a smooth din in my taste now. But you know, 2319 02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:20,840 Speaker 1: for those those those four individuals right there, those are 2320 02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:23,000 Speaker 1: the people who transcended life for me. There was the 2321 02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:26,000 Speaker 1: people that no, no, no, let's keep it over here. Yeah, 2322 02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,720 Speaker 1: let's keep it over here. So those are the people 2323 02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:30,360 Speaker 1: that transcend the life for me. What I mean by 2324 02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:33,040 Speaker 1: that is like, you know, as a black person growing 2325 02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:36,040 Speaker 1: up young in my life, I can't describe anybody else 2326 02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:39,040 Speaker 1: here or anybody in my life. It was like, those 2327 02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:40,960 Speaker 1: are the people that said, you can't do this, you 2328 02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:42,680 Speaker 1: can't do that, and they did it, and I was 2329 02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:44,440 Speaker 1: just like I always looked at them. It was like, 2330 02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,040 Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't gotta be like them, but I 2331 02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,800 Speaker 1: respect that what I'm saying. And that's why when I 2332 02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:53,320 Speaker 1: met with people like for Real, it was easy for 2333 02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:56,200 Speaker 1: me to say, I don't want to stand you, and 2334 02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really get where you're going 2335 02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:02,480 Speaker 1: at Your music is fucking ba. How did you meet? 2336 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:09,160 Speaker 1: That's how almost how I met for uh, we was 2337 02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:13,520 Speaker 1: in sound on sound studios. Everybody's to stake everybody suhould 2338 02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:15,680 Speaker 1: think Biggie was to be called at Daddy's house. Something 2339 02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:20,200 Speaker 1: happened at Daddy's house. I don't remember, but big rememborable moment. 2340 02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm good one. But another memorable one was when we 2341 02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:32,360 Speaker 1: was working on Murder music and we was in an 2342 02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Electric Lady right there on West ad for something like that. Yeah, yeah, 2343 02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, like then I had came back and one 2344 02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:40,200 Speaker 1: of my homebies, like in Prince's out there. I was like, 2345 02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:42,080 Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, so he went and 2346 02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:53,400 Speaker 1: got hold on. You want to tell me you met Prince? Yes, yeah, 2347 02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:57,600 Speaker 1: I've never been in the vicinity of the snake words. Yeah, 2348 02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I never and that's how I feel about Michael Jackson. 2349 02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:02,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, so we're in the studio. One of my 2350 02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:04,440 Speaker 1: homeboys was like, yo, Princess out there. I was like, 2351 02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:06,440 Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. He was like, hell yeah, 2352 02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:10,280 Speaker 1: I'll bring that again. Mad cool. He fucking brought Prince 2353 02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:14,960 Speaker 1: in the studio. Now I'm about this electric lady. Remember 2354 02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,320 Speaker 1: this is Jimmy Hendricks. Now I'm about this talk, I'm 2355 02:13:17,320 --> 02:13:20,560 Speaker 1: about this tour whatever. Prince is like this and he 2356 02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:26,520 Speaker 1: had he did he just know, he just had one 2357 02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:32,760 Speaker 1: on hills. So I was making so I was so 2358 02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:35,680 Speaker 1: I was making a beat and then I was like, 2359 02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:40,240 Speaker 1: holy shit, Prince like he just hung out at that point. Yeah, 2360 02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,040 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, is there anything I need to 2361 02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:44,560 Speaker 1: do to the beat? Because he's like hold on that. 2362 02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:47,920 Speaker 1: They got over the keyboard. He started swear to guard. 2363 02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:55,480 Speaker 1: He was that cool yoh yes, and I'm gonna beat 2364 02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:58,480 Speaker 1: and then snoop, I'm doing the beat and this record 2365 02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:01,840 Speaker 1: came out. It came out. Record is this It's called 2366 02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:07,400 Speaker 1: shall Now Kill? Listen to it? Oh my god, Prince. 2367 02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:12,560 Speaker 1: They probably walked away and say, don't give me credit. 2368 02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:15,200 Speaker 1: How do you play the key? Then Nigga walked down, 2369 02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:18,040 Speaker 1: didn't even say bye. How about dad credit? He was like, 2370 02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:31,080 Speaker 1: because producers live the elless Like like producers live the 2371 02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:34,040 Speaker 1: ellis life. Let's just keep it here. It's okay, no 2372 02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:39,160 Speaker 1: nosess life, right, I mean, because you guys not only 2373 02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:41,920 Speaker 1: get to make your own project, but you get to 2374 02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,560 Speaker 1: go out there like with with the Big We You 2375 02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:47,280 Speaker 1: wasn't there with Big Lady vocals? No, I wasn't there 2376 02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:49,720 Speaker 1: with Big Who was you there? Like the blown your 2377 02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:52,640 Speaker 1: way to lad your vocal lad? They vote of your beats, 2378 02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:58,160 Speaker 1: Little Kim and Foxy mm to go no no, no 2379 02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:04,360 Speaker 1: y no. But I saw them east time, you know 2380 02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:06,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when I was gonna go Foxy, 2381 02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I've seen and last, but definitely not least, we celebrate 2382 02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:16,400 Speaker 1: the life of the legendary Big Pun. There's a lot 2383 02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:18,520 Speaker 1: of you already know, Nori and Fat Joe's shirt a 2384 02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:21,800 Speaker 1: very special friendship with Pun, So it's only right that 2385 02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:24,000 Speaker 1: we share some of these Big Punch stories told in 2386 02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:26,720 Speaker 1: our very first episode of Drink Chance with Fat Joe, 2387 02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:30,920 Speaker 1: you know. And then when he passed, My brother was 2388 02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:34,160 Speaker 1: number one, and I always maintained number two, So I 2389 02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:36,520 Speaker 1: always was cool being number two. So then when I 2390 02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:39,440 Speaker 1: started rapping and it's fat Joe and then I'll bring 2391 02:15:39,560 --> 02:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Pun in the game. And I realized that Pun is 2392 02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:45,640 Speaker 1: a hundred times better than me. I fell right into 2393 02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:48,160 Speaker 1: number two. I was like, yo, let's I'll hold it 2394 02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:50,480 Speaker 1: off for this thing. I ask you something that I 2395 02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:53,760 Speaker 1: always wondered. So you met Remy through Punt, Yes, sir, 2396 02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:58,080 Speaker 1: so so Punt had rem she is big puns artists. 2397 02:15:58,080 --> 02:16:02,320 Speaker 1: Because I remember Pun, I remember Fun. I was so jealous. 2398 02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:05,720 Speaker 1: I was so jealous because it wasn't too many cruise 2399 02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:09,440 Speaker 1: where you had a nigger as nice at Pun, and 2400 02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:11,640 Speaker 1: then you had a bitch there was like the nicest 2401 02:16:11,720 --> 02:16:14,120 Speaker 1: bitch in the game. So he was like, yo, twin, 2402 02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I want you to hear this girl I signed. I'm like, 2403 02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:19,000 Speaker 1: all right, so I see if she had the level vests, 2404 02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:22,480 Speaker 1: I can never forget that ship. And then she just 2405 02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:25,520 Speaker 1: went off for like ten minutes streets and that's what 2406 02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:28,280 Speaker 1: she was saying, I shoot the air bubble welt your 2407 02:16:28,440 --> 02:16:33,760 Speaker 1: sneakers and she was just going I was like, so jealous, man. 2408 02:16:33,879 --> 02:16:36,680 Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my 2409 02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:39,800 Speaker 1: head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I 2410 02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:44,280 Speaker 1: didn find So then after she rocks punt hit muzeral twin. 2411 02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:46,680 Speaker 1: You know she your artist twin, Like you know, she 2412 02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:49,440 Speaker 1: signed to me, but we signed to you. He had 2413 02:16:49,440 --> 02:16:51,760 Speaker 1: a label. It was Terror Squad the whole time. But 2414 02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:57,560 Speaker 1: he discovered He say, yo, he signed it. He discovered her. 2415 02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:02,200 Speaker 1: But he's like, was kind. But I'm just saying I 2416 02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:08,760 Speaker 1: want to say, thank God. And uh, you know what, 2417 02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:11,640 Speaker 1: you did a deal with her after passed. No, no, 2418 02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:16,840 Speaker 1: pe was alive. We just we did the deal with her. 2419 02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:20,840 Speaker 1: But while Palem was alive. You know. You know, Come'm saying, 2420 02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:23,520 Speaker 1: most loyal realist in the world. We don't just say 2421 02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:26,480 Speaker 1: that because he's dead because some nigga's dad piece of ship. 2422 02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:30,959 Speaker 1: You know, Palem was one of the most loyalist niggers 2423 02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:34,200 Speaker 1: in the world. Most fun I mean, the way I 2424 02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:37,320 Speaker 1: say it is like, um, you know, I was the 2425 02:17:37,400 --> 02:17:39,920 Speaker 1: youngest kid in my house. You know what I'm saying. 2426 02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I never had a younger brother, So Palem was like 2427 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:44,880 Speaker 1: the young brother I never had, and I was like 2428 02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:49,440 Speaker 1: the big brother he never had. And uh, immediately, you 2429 02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:52,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's almost like a relationship. Um, 2430 02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, in order to make a marriage last. It's 2431 02:17:57,040 --> 02:18:01,039 Speaker 1: like you really got to sign it mentally and heart wise. 2432 02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:05,080 Speaker 1: You gotta really say you no matter what happens, I 2433 02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:07,160 Speaker 1: want to stay with this woman for the rest of 2434 02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,840 Speaker 1: my life and cut your hands for the academic Come on, Joe, 2435 02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:18,959 Speaker 1: you're I'm just saying, let's not. It's just like y'all, 2436 02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:23,119 Speaker 1: nobody's stopping this ship, right, And it's the same thing 2437 02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:26,560 Speaker 1: with like you know, with with me and pun. You know, 2438 02:18:26,760 --> 02:18:28,600 Speaker 1: after I heard him round for the first time, he 2439 02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:31,520 Speaker 1: sat in my car and he immediately I don't know 2440 02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:34,920 Speaker 1: how and why, but he was telling me ship. I 2441 02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:38,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell Nori now about myself, and that's my brother, 2442 02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Like I could go to war with Norri, like I 2443 02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:43,600 Speaker 1: would really kill for Nori, He'll kill for me. I 2444 02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:45,760 Speaker 1: would not tell him some person who ship in my 2445 02:18:46,040 --> 02:18:49,080 Speaker 1: family growing up and all that. So five minutes later, 2446 02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm riding with the nigga. This nig is telling me 2447 02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:53,480 Speaker 1: the deepest ship I ever heard of, and I'm sitting 2448 02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:55,480 Speaker 1: there with him. I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm 2449 02:18:55,520 --> 02:18:57,840 Speaker 1: a street nigga. I'm like, why is this naked telling 2450 02:18:57,879 --> 02:19:00,240 Speaker 1: me all this ship? Right? So I'm sitting in there 2451 02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:03,000 Speaker 1: like this, So I knew his life story. The first 2452 02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:05,960 Speaker 1: twenty minutes after I left them I met him, I 2453 02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:08,560 Speaker 1: already knew it, but let everybody asked you something because 2454 02:19:08,560 --> 02:19:13,800 Speaker 1: we were in and there like like like ta to right. 2455 02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:16,880 Speaker 1: Had jay Z's boy had brung me beyond that right 2456 02:19:17,080 --> 02:19:21,280 Speaker 1: and I had to joint bald equal And he said, Yo, 2457 02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:24,480 Speaker 1: she wants to do this recket. She wants to do 2458 02:19:24,560 --> 02:19:28,959 Speaker 1: it like Barbados and listen, check to check what I said. 2459 02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:31,720 Speaker 1: But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar 2460 02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:35,400 Speaker 1: budget at the time. I said no, Right, I said no, 2461 02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:38,920 Speaker 1: I passed on that. Did you know the minute you 2462 02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:42,960 Speaker 1: met Puny that this was the next dude? Or was 2463 02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:46,760 Speaker 1: it instant or like, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna 2464 02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:52,720 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Um, I know music probably more 2465 02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:56,320 Speaker 1: than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry wasn't 2466 02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:58,880 Speaker 1: scared of me for being such a gangster there, I 2467 02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:02,640 Speaker 1: would be the president everything. Nobody really know more than me. 2468 02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Every time they turned around and they give a nigga 2469 02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:07,520 Speaker 1: a new job, they I put it on blast. The 2470 02:20:07,560 --> 02:20:10,720 Speaker 1: minute they gave Joey president of the Scope, he picked 2471 02:20:10,760 --> 02:20:12,720 Speaker 1: the phone up, called me saying I learned everything from you, 2472 02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:15,680 Speaker 1: my brother. Please, you don't even understand everything. I know. 2473 02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:19,119 Speaker 1: It's because of you everything I like. Niggas get presidents 2474 02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:22,080 Speaker 1: and they studied you my whole life. You are the 2475 02:20:22,200 --> 02:20:25,119 Speaker 1: smartest nicking. But they're scared of me, so they won't 2476 02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:27,680 Speaker 1: give me that position. Don't know why because I'm the 2477 02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:31,280 Speaker 1: nicest nick in the world. Right, So when I met 2478 02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:35,279 Speaker 1: pun and the niggas started rapping, So alright, the scene 2479 02:20:35,440 --> 02:20:37,560 Speaker 1: is I told her a million times. I don't want 2480 02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:39,640 Speaker 1: to tell ship on your ship that I told everybody. 2481 02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:42,280 Speaker 1: But but I'm gonna just saying because were family, so 2482 02:20:42,959 --> 02:20:45,120 Speaker 1: I go. You know, I was one of the only 2483 02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:48,160 Speaker 1: him being another one too, so I can't start on him. 2484 02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:52,440 Speaker 1: But I'm one of the only rappers that actually was rich, 2485 02:20:53,360 --> 02:20:57,280 Speaker 1: actually was gold already and were still in my hood. 2486 02:20:57,360 --> 02:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Like I live in apartment five. Like literally, hold on, 2487 02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:03,959 Speaker 1: everybody better make noise for this. I am also from 2488 02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:12,160 Speaker 1: apartment five, So you know what's crazy? I studied hip hop. 2489 02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,120 Speaker 1: Jay Z was also from apartment five. What is that? 2490 02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:20,400 Speaker 1: What does that mean? We're we gotta break? He's from Miami? 2491 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:23,120 Speaker 1: Now I know what literally what that means I'm saying, 2492 02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:26,039 Speaker 1: is there a hidden meaning behind no, we're gonna, You're gonna, 2493 02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:33,000 Speaker 1: You're not. You're gonna ask first. Let me also make 2494 02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,480 Speaker 1: some noise for my brother Kake. You know Ray Kawon's brother. 2495 02:21:35,560 --> 02:21:41,880 Speaker 1: He once hold happy birthday, Happy birthdays. I don't see it. Okay, okay, 2496 02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:44,400 Speaker 1: excuse me. Somebody get that man to drink. Somebody get 2497 02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:47,680 Speaker 1: that man to drink. We ain't got no brown, We 2498 02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:50,680 Speaker 1: ain't got no brown. Okay, okay, I know you called me, 2499 02:21:50,760 --> 02:21:52,840 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you I had it, but nobody never 2500 02:21:52,959 --> 02:21:58,000 Speaker 1: gave me my sneakers, my purple you first, wait, hold on, 2501 02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:01,120 Speaker 1: we got it. He told me I'm gonna pick it up. 2502 02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:08,039 Speaker 1: Could I still get him on the gone. Let's let's 2503 02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:11,920 Speaker 1: go straight. I'm glad you brought into hit. Are you 2504 02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:20,400 Speaker 1: the snaker king? Um? And if you are, you know 2505 02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna end this on this, but part of 2506 02:22:23,959 --> 02:22:26,280 Speaker 1: the best Latina rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right 2507 02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:30,640 Speaker 1: the bottom real quick. When I when I heard when 2508 02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I heard him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It 2509 02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:42,400 Speaker 1: was mere God on the getting And okay, that's that's 2510 02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:50,959 Speaker 1: the first put that on a mixtape, my Mixtapeia. Let 2511 02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:53,920 Speaker 1: me tell you know, nobody had ever heard anything I 2512 02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:56,640 Speaker 1: put on the mixtape here in Miami, and I was like, 2513 02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:02,160 Speaker 1: dude is fucking killing it. But I didn't know who 2514 02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:05,600 Speaker 1: he was. I just but then I knew. I knew 2515 02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:09,280 Speaker 1: he was Latina. I was like, we got one. That's it, 2516 02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's it because be just so you know. 2517 02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:18,080 Speaker 1: At that same time, Big is my favorite rapper, thinking 2518 02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:21,480 Speaker 1: in the Craze crew that's my brother to my other 2519 02:23:21,640 --> 02:23:24,119 Speaker 1: favorite rap was a member of two crews with two 2520 02:23:24,160 --> 02:23:32,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest rappers the old times. That's that's That's 2521 02:23:32,200 --> 02:23:36,480 Speaker 1: where I'm like, this is it? Yeah, yeah, we got him, yea, 2522 02:23:36,600 --> 02:23:41,520 Speaker 1: I really it's just almost like Chin Chin angelsts him 2523 02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:47,760 Speaker 1: in Evangelists and then God, I know Putt was great. 2524 02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:52,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know he was the greatest until like after 2525 02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:57,680 Speaker 1: after his shriner. I remember me standing there and crying 2526 02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:01,520 Speaker 1: at the and God bless the dad. Flex flex Ts 2527 02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:04,240 Speaker 1: was the one who came and grabbed me because I 2528 02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:06,199 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do, Like I still started crying. 2529 02:24:06,280 --> 02:24:09,440 Speaker 1: My mother came to the keeping Real without me. My 2530 02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:11,840 Speaker 1: mom said, my mom's didn't wait for me to come. 2531 02:24:11,959 --> 02:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Mother with man from the boat danger like crazy. It 2532 02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:21,800 Speaker 1: was so crazy because the people who came to that funeral. 2533 02:24:22,600 --> 02:24:25,360 Speaker 1: You know, it was like crazy, man. Like it was 2534 02:24:25,480 --> 02:24:30,080 Speaker 1: like people that from our community that never even talk 2535 02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:32,440 Speaker 1: to us. Was like, you know, they were so proud 2536 02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:35,600 Speaker 1: they were showing up and you was like, yo, that's 2537 02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:39,440 Speaker 1: just my school teacher, you know. So I'm sitting there 2538 02:24:39,560 --> 02:24:42,160 Speaker 1: crying and I walked by my school teacher, come and 2539 02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:45,640 Speaker 1: grab me and like, yo, be strong. This is that 2540 02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:48,200 Speaker 1: like we touched so many niguas in the hood. It 2541 02:24:48,320 --> 02:24:50,959 Speaker 1: was crazy, but it was like that too. I never 2542 02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:52,680 Speaker 1: forget too. I was at one point, I was at 2543 02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:56,760 Speaker 1: point funeral and I was crying and uh, it was 2544 02:24:56,879 --> 02:24:59,560 Speaker 1: John Rule And I looked up and it was John 2545 02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Rule was there one deep too. He was like be strong, crack, 2546 02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:06,760 Speaker 1: don't worry, be strong. And that ship, that punch ship 2547 02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:10,520 Speaker 1: was serious man. And this is what I remember Flex 2548 02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:13,879 Speaker 1: grabbing me and just was like no, he's not suffering 2549 02:25:13,959 --> 02:25:15,920 Speaker 1: no more. And the crazy Yet I've never seen Pun 2550 02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:19,680 Speaker 1: suffer like when Pun, I know we can we're going 2551 02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:21,560 Speaker 1: too much, but we're gonna stop it soon. But when 2552 02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:24,360 Speaker 1: Pun used to half sleep apnea, like when he used 2553 02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:26,600 Speaker 1: to go like this, I used to think Pun was 2554 02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,360 Speaker 1: playing with me, Like God bless me because you know. 2555 02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:31,600 Speaker 1: Now I know, but back then, I used to like 2556 02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:38,520 Speaker 1: damn my fucking stories, just boring people like Yo, we 2557 02:25:38,600 --> 02:25:43,920 Speaker 1: would be talking like it was good. I'm like, ho, alright, 2558 02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:49,640 Speaker 1: let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh in a 2559 02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:53,400 Speaker 1: different way, in a special way. And the niggas used 2560 02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:56,320 Speaker 1: to hang out. They used to chill like we're still void, Joe. 2561 02:25:56,440 --> 02:25:59,640 Speaker 1: That's when Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like 2562 02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:04,879 Speaker 1: he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all 2563 02:26:04,959 --> 02:26:07,520 Speaker 1: he thinks about me and Pun. We wanted to have fun. 2564 02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:10,199 Speaker 1: We was younger. You know what I'm saying, Joe's olg. 2565 02:26:10,480 --> 02:26:13,200 Speaker 1: It's a fact because we used to be on the 2566 02:26:13,360 --> 02:26:16,920 Speaker 1: road everything like and Punning smoked weed. He drank cards 2567 02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:20,720 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like this like just 2568 02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:24,560 Speaker 1: started drinking, like really, like you just started legally drinking 2569 02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:30,039 Speaker 1: like that. So serious. He was like like every day 2570 02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:36,000 Speaker 1: like this, I'll tell my son this to us and listen, bro, 2571 02:26:36,879 --> 02:26:39,520 Speaker 1: we was born with nothing, my niked and if we 2572 02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:42,760 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, nigga, 2573 02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:45,040 Speaker 1: let's just go get it. And we can't make it. 2574 02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:48,280 Speaker 1: We gotta go get this fucking money man, because all 2575 02:26:48,320 --> 02:26:51,640 Speaker 1: the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times 2576 02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:53,920 Speaker 1: all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give us a 2577 02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:58,240 Speaker 1: fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We Nigga's got 2578 02:26:58,320 --> 02:27:00,640 Speaker 1: a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries. 2579 02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:02,960 Speaker 1: Now nigg is just throwing this money at us, Like 2580 02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:05,320 Speaker 1: what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's go 2581 02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:09,000 Speaker 1: get this fucking money. And and and and and that's 2582 02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:11,640 Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I'm about right now. I'm in 2583 02:27:11,720 --> 02:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the car with my sun wrap. I'm in the car. 2584 02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:16,560 Speaker 1: One of my baked on him two minutes before I 2585 02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:19,440 Speaker 1: came here because he was like, yo, engineer, ain't really 2586 02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:21,960 Speaker 1: doing it right there. I'm like, nikking you fucking crazy, 2587 02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:26,720 Speaker 1: Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end it 2588 02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:32,440 Speaker 1: on this. Back in the days, you couldn't send the email. 2589 02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:35,680 Speaker 1: You have to run around with two tapes like this 2590 02:27:36,160 --> 02:27:43,000 Speaker 1: that she was like carrying a mitchet. Yeah it was Stow. 2591 02:27:43,959 --> 02:27:46,520 Speaker 1: I've never been to and this is my engineer right here. 2592 02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:49,240 Speaker 1: Has it it sounds I produce something, my friend, but 2593 02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:52,400 Speaker 1: has I have never had a session with you unless 2594 02:27:52,400 --> 02:27:55,000 Speaker 1: I did four records. Keep it real. I'm gonna look away, 2595 02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:57,480 Speaker 1: so like I'm not giving you know, fine, am I 2596 02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:01,800 Speaker 1: lying these four? At least four? Because you know why 2597 02:28:02,040 --> 02:28:06,320 Speaker 1: it's not because but back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars 2598 02:28:06,400 --> 02:28:09,520 Speaker 1: on the lockout or three thousand dollars on the lockout, 2599 02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I had to do yo on this ship. I'm keeping 2600 02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:17,760 Speaker 1: it real. Seeing then War Report album was done over 2601 02:28:17,879 --> 02:28:20,600 Speaker 1: two years, but it was only like five to seven 2602 02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:26,080 Speaker 1: sessions because we recalled it eight nine records. When we 2603 02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:28,560 Speaker 1: went in there and you know, tragedy put us on. 2604 02:28:28,760 --> 02:28:31,959 Speaker 1: He you had this wave, man, you your wave, it's 2605 02:28:32,040 --> 02:28:36,040 Speaker 1: like you know, special waves. But what it was, man, 2606 02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:40,360 Speaker 1: you could do whatever you wanted, nor nor you you're 2607 02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:43,560 Speaker 1: funny nigging. And then it's like it's like it was 2608 02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:46,640 Speaker 1: like maybe he was bugging out, but to us, it 2609 02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:52,960 Speaker 1: was like flows. We never heard righting thing. Thing I'm 2610 02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:58,640 Speaker 1: thing is saying this ship, you know what that came from? 2611 02:28:58,720 --> 02:29:01,320 Speaker 1: What was the joint you did? Um? And we gotta 2612 02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:06,280 Speaker 1: gotta go with you. What was the joint you did? 2613 02:29:06,760 --> 02:29:11,600 Speaker 1: I think it was in the firm. You know this leaving, 2614 02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I can get the story of 2615 02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:18,000 Speaker 1: that and then we break out. But listen, it goes 2616 02:29:18,440 --> 02:29:21,480 Speaker 1: that is that one Mike h Nor we know this, 2617 02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:28,240 Speaker 1: we know that, yeah, because I'm leave. Yeah. And it 2618 02:29:28,360 --> 02:29:30,600 Speaker 1: was another one you did for NAS, right, was it 2619 02:29:30,760 --> 02:29:34,880 Speaker 1: Nas or more Deep? It was blood Money, Blood Money, Money, 2620 02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:38,640 Speaker 1: the Money, the one when we did that during the 2621 02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:42,080 Speaker 1: Firm album. Um the Funnies Ship. I'm not gonna lie 2622 02:29:42,120 --> 02:29:44,480 Speaker 1: to you from the outside, and I don't know if 2623 02:29:44,520 --> 02:29:46,640 Speaker 1: you don't go ahead tell me you was like the 2624 02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:50,240 Speaker 1: illest nigger right there, like like right there when they 2625 02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:52,720 Speaker 1: snatched you up, because it was a big move for 2626 02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:57,240 Speaker 1: you and I. I had just shot nigger the projects too, 2627 02:29:57,680 --> 02:29:59,800 Speaker 1: and it was like and I kept hanging out there. 2628 02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:01,720 Speaker 1: They it was like what this thing is from the 2629 02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:08,080 Speaker 1: left cracking left Brack left money minutes and I kept 2630 02:30:08,120 --> 02:30:10,840 Speaker 1: hanging out and I gotta I gotta give the love 2631 02:30:10,920 --> 02:30:13,600 Speaker 1: the Jungle. Jungle was the dude like Jungle was like, 2632 02:30:13,720 --> 02:30:15,800 Speaker 1: we're fucking want him, we want to shoot up you 2633 02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:23,519 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But what I'm saying is they 2634 02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:28,120 Speaker 1: recruited you and you was just like it was so ill. 2635 02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:30,480 Speaker 1: I was just like and you know, and you know 2636 02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:33,960 Speaker 1: from them my very first feature, my very first feature 2637 02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:37,280 Speaker 1: after that was the Punt the record, my very first 2638 02:30:37,360 --> 02:30:41,560 Speaker 1: feature after that, I mean put in punt Um. You know, 2639 02:30:41,760 --> 02:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Punt's first words he ever said to me? What he said? 2640 02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:46,400 Speaker 1: He said because I was it was in a session, 2641 02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:48,200 Speaker 1: the first this is the first words you ever said 2642 02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,680 Speaker 1: to me. This is the first words you ever said 2643 02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:54,400 Speaker 1: to me. You said, y'all cnn, huh. He woke this 2644 02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:59,680 Speaker 1: unique studio, unique studios, thinking walks and the punt wasn't 2645 02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:03,320 Speaker 1: He goes, y'all seeing there? Huh. I'm like, you said, 2646 02:31:03,800 --> 02:31:06,520 Speaker 1: which one of your niggas got shot? And then Palm 2647 02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:09,720 Speaker 1: raised his hand and then y'all start keep hearing gunshot 2648 02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:12,520 Speaker 1: rooms and ship. I was like, this is very awkward 2649 02:31:15,480 --> 02:31:18,160 Speaker 1: home shows and ship. Then and then he goes, which 2650 02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:20,720 Speaker 1: one of yours Puerto Weekend? And I raised my hand 2651 02:31:20,879 --> 02:31:23,360 Speaker 1: and this is this is one hundred said facts. I 2652 02:31:23,480 --> 02:31:26,000 Speaker 1: was just like, because I've never met these nis, I 2653 02:31:26,120 --> 02:31:27,760 Speaker 1: love this nigga, but I don't want em to think 2654 02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm a sucker. He just walked in my studios. Actually 2655 02:31:30,440 --> 02:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Blue told you to walk over right. Buck Wild is 2656 02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:36,600 Speaker 1: doing the beat. Maybe we buck Wild and then Plank 2657 02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:38,800 Speaker 1: goes to me. He goes, yo, you bought the weekend 2658 02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:42,400 Speaker 1: and I go, yeah, he goes, so wipe the ice 2659 02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:48,640 Speaker 1: crilled off ba ba because we're gonna be friends. And 2660 02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:51,440 Speaker 1: from that moment, you know, the nigga made me laugh. 2661 02:31:54,440 --> 02:31:59,680 Speaker 1: I was racist from that moment and it was some 2662 02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:01,360 Speaker 1: of the ask people I have a mat man, Joe. 2663 02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:04,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. You've never left me. You know, 2664 02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:14,280 Speaker 1: you've always been there for me. Is his birthday? Happy birthday, brother, 2665 02:32:14,800 --> 02:32:20,480 Speaker 1: but Ray Kwan the chef before you leave Top three 2666 02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:25,400 Speaker 1: friends again on behalf of myself and Nori. Thank you 2667 02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:28,000 Speaker 1: for listening to this Memorial Day episode of Drink Champs. 2668 02:32:28,320 --> 02:32:31,080 Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed reliving these moments with us. Stay 2669 02:32:31,160 --> 02:32:34,920 Speaker 1: tuned as we'll be releasing new episodes weekly until then, 2670 02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:38,240 Speaker 1: Keep those drinks on ice, rest those delivers, and get 2671 02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:41,560 Speaker 1: ready to make some motherfucking noise special. Shout out to 2672 02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:43,800 Speaker 1: all the guests that we've had on Drink Champs for 2673 02:32:43,879 --> 02:32:46,959 Speaker 1: these past couple of years, few years. I mean, without them, 2674 02:32:47,440 --> 02:32:49,160 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be here. If you know, those guests is 2675 02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:52,280 Speaker 1: what what make it special. They come to on the 2676 02:32:52,320 --> 02:32:55,040 Speaker 1: show and they have fun with us, and that's what counts. 2677 02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:56,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. We're here to have fun, 2678 02:32:56,959 --> 02:33:00,600 Speaker 1: to celebrate life and keep it motherfucking even. Shout out 2679 02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:03,800 Speaker 1: to the Drink Champs crew, the Drink Champs Army, crazyhood crew, 2680 02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:08,039 Speaker 1: maintainment crew sucked out everybody out there shots. My boy 2681 02:33:08,120 --> 02:33:11,440 Speaker 1: j Havan, who helped put this together has it as sounds. Man. 2682 02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:12,880 Speaker 1: Let's get out of here, man. Make sure you check 2683 02:33:12,959 --> 02:33:16,360 Speaker 1: us out at www dot drink Champs dot com and 2684 02:33:16,520 --> 02:33:20,040 Speaker 1: at drink Champs on all your social platforms. D J E. 2685 02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:22,400 Speaker 1: F FEN and the War we out of here. Peace 2686 02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:19,760 Speaker 1: assists us assist