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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's normally.

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Speaker 3: You're sure what normally it takes the when you me

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Speaker 3: Ki's weird. I am very Captani.

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Speaker 2: Carol Markoitz, How was your weekend, Mary Captain?

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Speaker 3: It was pretty good. It was busy, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying. I try to get some Halloween decorations up.

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Speaker 3: That's correct, it is October twentieth. But the great thing

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Speaker 3: about that is that you get a lot of things

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Speaker 3: half price if you wait till October twentieth.

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Speaker 2: So, oh, it's the plus and minuses. One year, I

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Speaker 2: you know, that's the minus part of that. Ours go

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Speaker 2: up October first, and I'm talking like, you know, September thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: My kids are like, can we.

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Speaker 1: Get them up?

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we don't have the Christmas decorations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Halloween. I love Halloween, but I do

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Speaker 3: feel like as a child, Halloween and Christmas were very

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Speaker 3: sometimes I'm just like, I'm tired, We're gonna do one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. My kids would so do Christmas

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Speaker 2: don't understand why they get to have the sparkly lights

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of sparkly lights.

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Speaker 2: Nothing will do with Jesus, I can't.

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Speaker 3: Eat alrighty, so well, shall we talk about the sparkly

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Speaker 3: events over the weekend? All right? Everybody gathered for the

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Speaker 3: No King's Marches, No King's Day? Are they calling it

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Speaker 3: that at any rate? People of the left who object

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Speaker 3: joined them went out to protest this weekend. Look, I

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Speaker 3: think the left often gets too much credit for being

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Speaker 3: janitor's hostage like they did on Ivy League campuses during

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Speaker 3: the post October seventh, you know, anti Semitic protests and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm on board with that part.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the rock bottom we could expect

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Speaker 1: We're like, look at.

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Speaker 2: You guys, no violence.

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Speaker 3: Oh they accomplished that, you know. I try to be

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Speaker 3: careful about just like the collective guilt. There were some

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Speaker 3: nasty signs out there, one in particular, several like encouraging violence,

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Speaker 3: way you can tell that the left has not denounced

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Speaker 3: political violence is that people like Angela Davis show up

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Speaker 3: feeds they've praised Asada Chakur like these people are politically

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Speaker 3: violent people who have been convicted. That's political violence. So

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Speaker 3: there's that. But there were some nasty signs, one in

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Speaker 3: and that one the widow bullying Nope, I want no

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Speaker 2: Like what do the people around her think? Are they

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Speaker 3: Well, and I would just like the standard to be

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Speaker 3: It was. Yes, they are very old. You can see

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Speaker 2: So much kinder than they would be to us, you know.

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Speaker 2: He is not I wouldn't say, overstepping into anything authoritarian.

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Speaker 2: Let me just read what the Democrats abroad said about that.

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Speaker 2: They said, a few notes, we've changed the no Kings

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Speaker 3: Rest I mean. So there's a piece in the argument

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Speaker 3: If you're a little cringe while you're objecting to your government,

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Speaker 3: we've done forever. I'm not super mad at you. I

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Speaker 3: I've told you this before. We're all nerds, right, people

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Speaker 3: appropriate message at these things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, let's call it fringe and it be right.

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Speaker 2: There's you know, if you're angry about what your government

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Speaker 2: I've just never been a protester. I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: Oh, can I say one more thing because I commented

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, We're going to take a short break and come

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: That the voters began voting in Virginia on September nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: We do say, apologize.

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Speaker 1: Apologies are in short supply in politics. These are all right.

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Speaker 3: So what do you make of that, Carol. It's like

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's just such a good guy, you know.

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Speaker 3: That's good?

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Speaker 3: That was one of the Dulmer tactical moves I have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had a good run with Younkin.

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Speaker 2: All Right, she apparently doesn't listen to normally, and I

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Speaker 3: Well, this is what you and I talk about lot,

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting because the Urban Institute fourth grade reading

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Speaker 3: No, that's actually, by their philosophy, the thing you should

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Speaker 5: They're done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, did you see that the NEA

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that was. They called it a lapse, Carol, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They're super, super concerned about kids having the right information

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Speaker 3: All right, what's going on with our friend mom Donnie?

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Speaker 2: I care about it? My family lives there, my friends

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got found, you know.

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Speaker 3: although there is a world in which Republicans have been

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Speaker 3: governor of or have been mayor of New York before,

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Speaker 3: so arguably they should have put someone up who was

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Speaker 3: more broadly appealing than Curtis Sliwa. Absolutely, Democrats, this is

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Speaker 3: a left leaning city, like this was on y'all to

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Speaker 3: mount a better opposition than this to Mom Donnie, and

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Speaker 3: I got to say, especially on the oppo research, of

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Speaker 3: which there is plenty on Mamdannyquoma's just like nah, not engaging.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is the Hillary Clinton problem. You

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Speaker 3: just show up with your name and your entitlement and

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Speaker 3: you think that people have to vote for you, and

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Speaker 3: they don't.

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Speaker 2: Right, And especially Cuomo should have known that it would

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Speaker 2: be a bit of a battle because he had to

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Speaker 2: resign from his governorship. You don't resign people love you,

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Speaker 2: like when they can't get enough of the Cuomo you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think I'm with you. I don't

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Speaker 3: want New York to face the consequences of this that

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Speaker 3: are some of which are going to be inevitable. I

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Speaker 3: do hope his powers are limited to some degree, but

457
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Speaker 3: some of the stuff he can do is going to

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Speaker 3: be really damaging, like removing gifted programs for kids.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that he could do. Yeah, there was Bamdanie

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Speaker 2: actually recently posted a photo of himself with Imam Suraj Wahaj,

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Speaker 2: who was an unindicted co conspiracy co conspirator in the

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three World Trade Center bombing in New York,

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Speaker 2: in New York, and this is like, who my New

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Speaker 2: Yorkers are voting for It's it's sad, It's really sad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that any of us

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Speaker 3: would have imagined that twenty four years after nine to eleven,

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Speaker 3: potential mirror of New York would be standing next to

468
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Speaker 3: a guy who hosted the blind Shake at his mosque.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just that's pretty amazing. And of course

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Speaker 3: the New York Times does the woke jiu jitsu where

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Speaker 3: they're like, it's it's racist and islamophobic for y'all to

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Speaker 3: mention these things, and it's like, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: If he were a candidate who was happy to say

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Speaker 3: those terror apologists are.

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Speaker 2: Bad, yeah, nobody would care that he was muzzled.

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Speaker 3: Who was happy to say globalized the end Offada is bad.

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Speaker 3: Who was happy to say Hamas should disarm? Those are

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Speaker 3: easy things to say. Who he doesn't say them is

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Speaker 3: because he doesn't believe them, guys, right, And that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That is the problem, New York. Come on, better, do better?

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Speaker 2: All right, We're going to take a short break and

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Speaker 2: come right back with what's going on in Europe? What's

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Speaker 2: up with these places? We are back on normally where

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Speaker 2: we can literally have a segment called Europe. What's up

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Speaker 2: with you?

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Speaker 3: It's not great? No, there was a.

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Speaker 2: Robbery at the Louver over the last few days and

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Speaker 2: it is crazy because they literally pulled a ladder truck

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Speaker 2: up to the louver, walked up a ladder into a window.

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Speaker 2: I mean you have to see this picture. There is

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Speaker 2: a ladder going up to the love in.

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Speaker 3: The middle of the day. Not exactly cat Burglars is

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Speaker 3: what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: They walked up to an exhibit and they drilled into it.

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Speaker 2: And I wish I that the louver this summer, and

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Speaker 2: you cannot like they're like, you're walking too close to

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Speaker 2: the art right right? I think they should get some

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Speaker 2: of the security off of the Mona Lisa and put

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Speaker 2: it elsewhere, because how does this happen? How are you

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Speaker 2: not humiliated and embarrassed that somebody mounted a ladder into

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Speaker 2: your louver window and stole priceless jewels? What is up

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Speaker 2: with your Europe?

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Speaker 3: Also? Can I just read an embarrassing sentence? Four perpetrators

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Speaker 3: is from CNN World. Four perpetrators appear to have been

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Speaker 3: involved in the theft, who were unarmed but threatened the

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Speaker 3: guards with angle grinders. Paris prosecutor that's not good. No,

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Speaker 3: that's not good. Arm What are they going to do?

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Speaker 2: Hit them when the angle grinder?

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Speaker 3: I just this is when I saw something recently about

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Speaker 3: I believe it was a public fountain in San Francisco

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Speaker 3: that of course had become a place of refuse and

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Speaker 3: needles and defecation and such, and they had just decided like,

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Speaker 3: let's not have the fountain anymore, let's not have that operative.

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Speaker 1: Right they do.

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Speaker 3: You have to have the will to protect the things

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Speaker 3: that are important, to protect the things that the civilized

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Speaker 3: people are enjoying instead of you know, kneeling to every

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Speaker 3: criminal that comes around. And it's just it's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: You have to have the will to protect this stuff. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little worried about the climate activists because usually

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Speaker 3: I don't like them throwing paint on these things regardless.

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Speaker 3: But usually I'm like, those are behind glass or something, right,

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Speaker 3: and often they are. Yeah, Now I'm not There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff that's going to ruin them.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, they will threaten the security guards with

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Speaker 2: paint and and the security guards.

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Speaker 3: Will run away.

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Speaker 2: It's just the jewels were from the Napoleon collection. My

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Speaker 2: middle son is super into Napoleon. So the joke in

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Speaker 2: our household is like, where was he on Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Nay, what is his alibi? My goodness, I think we

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Speaker 3: have another insane Europeans story, correct.

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Speaker 2: Not just France. This weekend in Britain, a man was

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Speaker 2: arrested because his Star of David was problematic and aggressive.

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Speaker 2: I you know, look, there's a lot of conversation right now.

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Speaker 3: About whether Jews should get out of Britain.

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Speaker 2: The Manchester attack on a synagogue on Yam Kipor was

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Speaker 2: a big tell of that. What I've always said about

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Speaker 2: anti Semitism is that it's not the end. It's not

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Speaker 2: the anti Semitism, it's not what happens. Anti Semitism could

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Speaker 2: happen anywhere. I'm wearing a you know, a Star of

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Speaker 2: David around my neck right now, a Jewish star. I

543
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Speaker 2: could walk outside. I mean I'm in New York, so

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Speaker 2: it would be crazy and somebody could assault me. The

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Speaker 2: thing is, it's how the public reacts to it. And

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Speaker 2: why I think America is so different is that when

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Speaker 2: anti Semitic attacks happen in America, and they do happen,

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Speaker 2: it's not like, well, what are you gonna do? Maybe

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Speaker 2: you should hide your Jewish starbetter.

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Speaker 3: It's very, very different.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm bullish on.

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Speaker 2: America in addition to the first and second amendments, is

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Speaker 2: because of the reaction of Americans when anti Semitism happens.

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Speaker 2: The reaction of Brits leaves a lot to be desired.

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Speaker 3: Well, and this there's some video of him being interrogated

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Speaker 3: by police who are like, you know, pointing out that

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Speaker 3: this Star of David is the issue. Right now, the

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Speaker 3: police have put out a statement saying, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: the thing is not It's not just the Star of David.

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Speaker 3: It's that like he was standing close to other people

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Speaker 3: who don't like the Star of David and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's not a good enough reason, guys. Right again, that's

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Speaker 3: what they're like. He antagonized them because there were there

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Speaker 3: was base there was a protest and a protest and

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Speaker 3: counter protest, right and he like you know, got too

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Speaker 3: close to the people who don't like him. It's like, no,

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Speaker 3: m m, that's not going to cut it, guys, It's

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Speaker 3: not going to cut it.

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Speaker 2: Also, Israeli's soccer team was is poised to play in Birmingham, England,

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Speaker 2: and their fans are being banned from the city coming

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Speaker 2: and watch them play asking Villa, and these members of

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Speaker 2: parliament are celebrating it on the internet as if like

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Speaker 2: this is a good thing, Like, oh, it's so good

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Speaker 2: that we have stopped those Jews from coming to our

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Speaker 2: football stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's really wild.

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Speaker 2: The thinking, or like the lie that they're telling is

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Speaker 2: that there was this big incident in Amsterdam last year

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Speaker 2: where Israeli soccer fans were assaulted and it was turns

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Speaker 2: out and the lie was that those Israeli soccer fans

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Speaker 2: were chanting something in Hebrew that you know fans knew

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Speaker 2: to be something negative. Look, soccer fans can be violent

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Speaker 2: and aggressive. The Amsterdam attack on the Israeli soccer fans,

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Speaker 2: by all accounts, appears to be pre planned. They were like,

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Speaker 2: the Israelis are coming, let's beat them up. And that

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Speaker 2: attack on Israelis is being used to ban Israelis from

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Speaker 2: going to other games. It's such blatant into Semitism. It's

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Speaker 2: just absolutely crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, it's like Jews standing too close to the people

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Speaker 3: who don't like them, right, and that is not an

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Speaker 3: acceptable reason. I kid you not, Carol. When I saw

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Speaker 3: an MP's statement on this. He was like, thank goodness,

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Speaker 3: these people have been banned from such and such. Because

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Speaker 3: I am not familiar with the names of soccer stadiums

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Speaker 3: in Britain, I assumed that this, you know, terrible MP

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Speaker 3: must be talking about like a sports bar, because like,

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Speaker 3: at least that would be like a smaller situation. I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, they mean the whole stadium. Yep,

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Speaker 3: how can this be happening because I thought he was

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Speaker 3: just talking about like his local sports bar. Nope, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: which would not be acceptable either.

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Speaker 2: But look, yeah it would be a personal decision by

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Speaker 2: the owner or whatever. Yeah, it's unacceptable, and I'll just

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Speaker 2: keep saying it. America is different, but we need to

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Speaker 2: defend that difference. We need to not follow Europe down

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Speaker 2: their terrible path. Also, if anybody hasn't read it America

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Speaker 2: Alone by Mark Stein, I don't even remember what year

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Speaker 2: that came out, like twenty something years ago. Yes, he

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Speaker 2: wrote a prediction guide of what was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It published two thousand and six, so almost twenty years

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Speaker 2: ago it is. We read it recently. Unbelievable how much

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Speaker 2: he got right about Europe and it's America alone because

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Speaker 2: we were the only ones kind of enforcing our border

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Speaker 2: rules and also having children, and those two factors. He said,

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Speaker 2: We're going to bring down Europe, and we're watching it

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Speaker 2: in action.

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Speaker 3: And they have fallen off here in the past five years.

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Speaker 3: So we shall endeavor to keep what's great.

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Speaker 2: About America, that's right America forever. Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 2: on normally. Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you can

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Speaker 2: subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get in touch with

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