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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Chris Terrapasso with you as we get set

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Speaker 2: for the start of Rookie Minicamp. Players on the field

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Speaker 2: as we speak, about one hundred yards away from us,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, watch the beginnings of practice. Not

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Speaker 2: a whole lot going on, as a lot of special

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Speaker 2: teams drills to start, so nothing super entertaining like to

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Speaker 2: report like, oh my god, Kean Coleman made a catch

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Speaker 2: upside down between his legs, like where None of that

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Speaker 2: has happened yet. As a matter of fact, I would

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Speaker 2: expect most of that to take place on Saturday and

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Speaker 2: Sunday when there is no media availability, so they'll get

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Speaker 2: a you know, you get a brief peak today and

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Speaker 2: then that's pretty much it. But we do hope to

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Speaker 2: hear from Keon Coleman a little bit later in the show.

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Speaker 2: He's supposed to address the media after practice, so we

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Speaker 2: look forward to that conversation because the ones we've had

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Speaker 2: so far have been pretty darn entertaining. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you saw the social media post yesterday. He's at

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Speaker 2: his local Mama's Chicken establishment down in Ope, lusis I

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Speaker 2: think I'm saying that right, Louisiana, his hometown. He's down

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Speaker 2: there taking orders behind the counter. Like the guy walks

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Speaker 2: in and ten minutes later he's behind the counter taking

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Speaker 2: orders and filling out order. He's he's entertaining. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: feel like, Ope, he's just entertaining on the field. That

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Speaker 2: would be good for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see, like how much more can

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Speaker 3: he Like, how many more sound bites can he?

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Speaker 4: Ah? And is he going to be that player.

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Speaker 3: Maybe more so than anyone in the NFL that every

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Speaker 3: and funny.

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Speaker 2: Or its appointment television.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like That's what I'm because we're not really

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Speaker 3: doing anything super serious football wise, although it is good

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Speaker 3: that they're out there, that they're out there, there's actual

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Speaker 3: football activities going on this weekend for the rookies. The

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Speaker 3: first time that Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean and the

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Speaker 4: Gets to see these players. So that's good.

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Speaker 3: But because it's not ultra serious at this point, I

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Speaker 3: just want to see if Keon Coleman can kind of

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Speaker 3: continue this amazing ability to go viral based on what

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Speaker 3: he says in front of a mic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're all learning. I mean, they were out

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Speaker 2: there doing some of the stretch with the strength and

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Speaker 2: conditioning staff and some of the guys are getting twisted around.

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Speaker 2: They don't understand the stretching drill or whatever, and the

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Speaker 2: coaches are out there going you just gotta listen, you

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Speaker 4: Like so it's like anybody there for the years, guys

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Speaker 4: their first.

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Speaker 2: Time on a job out of college, first day of school,

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Speaker 2: you know, at a new school, like you go from

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Speaker 2: elementary school to junior high or junior high to high school.

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Speaker 2: It's like first day and that kind of an environment.

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Speaker 2: It's like you know what school is like, but you

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Speaker 2: haven't been in this school. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 2: it is for these guys today. So they're getting started

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Speaker 2: three day rookie mini camp runs through Sunday and then

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Speaker 2: they'll be done with that, and then not long after that,

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Speaker 2: OTAs will begin when the entire roster comes together. Draft

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Speaker 2: picks undrafteds along with the veterans on the roster, will

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Speaker 2: all be together for a couple of probably almost two weeks,

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Speaker 2: of OTAs and then June Mini camp and then bang,

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Speaker 2: we're like five six weeks away from training camp. It

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day, it just it moves. Yeah, and then before

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Speaker 2: you know it, bang, June Mini camp has broken and

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, wow, six more weeks this summer and

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Speaker 4: It almost.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is kind of par for the course

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Speaker 3: with how the NFL has become this year round, all

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Speaker 4: January early February.

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Speaker 3: If you're a team like the Bills that's contending deep

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Speaker 2: So you want to talk about rookie Minnicamp. We'll take

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Speaker 2: any questions you have. It is the OBL Friday fan mailbag,

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Speaker 2: So any question on your mind about the draft class,

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Speaker 2: that we can provide quite the same information about all

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Speaker 2: the tryout players that are here to kind of fill

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Speaker 2: I know Chris knows a couple of them. And then

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Speaker 2: beyond that, anything else on your mind, anything under the

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Speaker 2: wouldn't expect that to happen until after the June money

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Speaker 2: clears on the tradevious White deal. You know, the Carolina

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Speaker 2: Panthers already sign their entire draft class xpressive. I don't

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, no more hold rookies are going to

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Speaker 3: And I've started to see it on Twitter or on

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Speaker 3: It's not really news anymore because they'll eventually get signed.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, you certainly remember, I'm sure some of

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Speaker 2: It's huge, So feel free to fire off any questions

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Speaker 2: the tweets sheet at one. Bills live quickly jumping through

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Speaker 2: these undrafteds, Chris, I don't know, did anybody catch your eye?

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Speaker 2: With all your pains taking draft prep the last four months.

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Speaker 3: So it's a bummer that I didn't really watch any

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Speaker 3: of them. There's usually or Keaton Bills. I did, which

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Speaker 3: is hilarious. The picture that came out yesterday.

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Speaker 2: All I'm gonna say is of a jersey for the

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Speaker 4: Like hand number sixty when, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, it's like it's gotta happen.

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Speaker 3: He's He's an interesting one because I think I'm not

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Speaker 3: But the run blocking which road greater, which yeah, maybe

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Speaker 3: So as the Bills again always are throwing more darts

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Speaker 2: Did you were you? Kind of? I shouldn't say surprise.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's depth that's hard to come by sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that to your last point, that's

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Speaker 3: why they ultimately did this, because offensive line depth in

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Speaker 2: That first season, first year in a Bill's.

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Speaker 3: Uniform, they get someone in Grabel who's not quite as

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Speaker 3: through the roof out of Northern Iowa, but Grabil was

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Speaker 3: the better performing franchises fourth round, fifth round, sixth round

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's a

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Speaker 2: climb to the second level. He can climb, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he can get out and pull.

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Speaker 2: And you and you, you know, talked about even Keaton

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I always go back to Aaron

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Speaker 3: That offensive line was really sparked by Eric Wood and

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Speaker 3: Just to see what we've heard so much about Joe

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Speaker 4: So that's the ultimate question.

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Speaker 3: lines twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, even twenty twenty not amazing

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Speaker 3: like we're mentioning, they have built the offensive line very well.

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Speaker 3: Now you have a dynamic back in James Cook, a

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Speaker 3: I think Joe Brady's gonna say, hey, let's take the

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Speaker 3: it would be it would behoove the Bills to maybe

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Speaker 2: Line, right and maybe get Josh Allen more single safety,

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Speaker 3: Calling, because it got to the point twenty twenty was

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Speaker 4: The pass protection was very good.

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Speaker 3: Just they could never really run the ball consistently until

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Speaker 3: James Cook has his great healthy and state healthy no injuries.

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Speaker 3: But that's a good point that the two safety look.

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Speaker 2: It's an obl fan Friday mail bag, so anything on

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Dave?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Hi, I just think this Bill's draft class was underrated.

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Speaker 7: both of those. And then the other thing I'm going

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Speaker 7: to address is one of their rookie tryout players, Stephen

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Speaker 2: Dakota, Okay linebacker.

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Speaker 7: I think it's the one rookie tryout player that was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they had a great season. There's several

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Speaker 2: Hillis is one of those that's here with the bill.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if you can make the most of it.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I have this right. In each

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Speaker 2: So there is one spot there. So maybe one of

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Speaker 2: a full ninety at that point. We'll have to wait

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Speaker 2: and see. But the last I don't think it's any

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Speaker 2: and each of the last two years, right after rookie

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Speaker 2: Minni Caamp, one tryout player has been signed.

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Speaker 3: And we know how much Sean McDermott loves to fill

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Speaker 3: that in safety. The Bills are out going to say safety,

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Speaker 3: that's true, that's true, that's true. But the linebackers Kimigley

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Speaker 3: Bobby Babbage coach safeties, coach linebackers, he's now the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: They have such an athletic linebacker room. I think you

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones and we

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Speaker 7: What's up, hey, ye, how you doing today?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 6: I just want to get this out of the way,

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Speaker 6: just like we advocate Steve to be in the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame. Chris, I hope it's not inappropriate to say

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Speaker 6: this now, but I like to be an advocate for

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thanks very much for that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no problem. And then Chris Trapasso, I did have

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Speaker 6: a question for you. You graded Coleman a C plus,

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Speaker 6: C plus or the player itself, because you know, most

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Speaker 6: up with that C plus for Coleman? For a guy

437
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Speaker 6: that's gonna you know, catch these contested catches and and

438
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 6: show up a lot of yarritage down the field.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's a good question, Carl, Thanks

440
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Speaker 2: for the call. Uh, because I think a lot of

441
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 2: people they see draft grades and they're like, well, what

442
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 2: is that based on? Is it on the player specifically?

443
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 2: Is it on the value of the pick? Is it

444
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Speaker 2: how the team based on their needs addressed that with

445
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Speaker 2: that selection. So where do you kind of come down

446
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Speaker 2: on that in terms of formulating your draft grade?

447
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is perfect.

448
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Speaker 3: I think I understand why people right when there's snap

449
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: reaction grades to the draft, You're like, they're silly, you.

450
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: Don't know for three years.

451
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: But I do think if you're someone like myself, and

452
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 3: there's certainly other draft analysts out there that are grading

453
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: an entire draft and have a specific grade with an

454
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Speaker 3: evaluation attached to it before the draft, when whether it's

455
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Speaker 3: the Bills, the Chiefs, the Patriots, whatever team picks certain players,

456
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: you can look at how you had them graded, see

457
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: where they got picked, and then ultimately a sign of grade. Now,

458
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: will I say that my actual real time draft grades,

459
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 3: like I have a system that spits out a C plus.

460
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Speaker 4: No, it's more feel than anything.

461
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 3: I was just lower on key on Coleman because of

462
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: the lack of separation ability, and I thought that even

463
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: though in twenty twenty two at Michigan State the contested

464
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 3: catch rate was good, last season at Florida State wasn't

465
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Speaker 3: quite as good. I liked Lad mcconkee a little bit more.

466
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Speaker 3: So that's again I guess proof that I'm I can't

467
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Speaker 3: be a homer or I can't be someone that's a

468
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Speaker 3: huge naysayer. It just goes based on how I had

469
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Speaker 3: him graded. I had him graded a little bit lower

470
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Speaker 3: on day two, and the Bills picked him obviously after

471
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Speaker 3: trading down, which was good to get those extra assets.

472
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Speaker 3: It was just based on my pre draft evaluation of

473
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Speaker 3: Coleman that was lower than where the.

474
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Speaker 2: Bills now would you call, so, would you say, just

475
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Speaker 2: in terms of personal preference for you, like you're a

476
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Speaker 2: hypothetical GM, you would prefer a separator to maybe a

477
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Speaker 2: big body. I like, does that go into you saying

478
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Speaker 2: I like mcconachie better because of this because I value

479
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: separation great question than maybe something else.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

481
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Speaker 3: So I used to early on in my scouting days,

482
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Speaker 3: so to speak, Like when I started out doing this

483
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Speaker 3: on a year to year basis, which is like twenty fourteen,

484
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Speaker 3: I was all about the bigger body guys the brand,

485
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Speaker 3: and it was an era in the league where those

486
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: players were winning Brandon Marshall and Jordy Nelson and Kelvin Johns.

487
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: Braylan Edwards had one thousand yard season just being six

488
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Speaker 3: three big, and then we kind of transition into the

489
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Speaker 3: more separation ability. So yes, I to answer your question,

490
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Speaker 3: I have kind of trended or leaned toward the separators,

491
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Speaker 3: the guys that you see open on film consistently, and

492
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Speaker 3: I've said it a million times that any appearance I

493
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Speaker 3: ever do yards after the catch I think is huge

494
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Speaker 3: for me. So that's actually an area where I had

495
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Speaker 3: Coleman graded relatively high because I think at six three

496
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Speaker 3: two fifteen he's actually pretty shifty.

497
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Speaker 4: He's athletic, loose athletes.

498
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Speaker 3: You see the basketball background when he's you know, catching

499
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Speaker 3: a screw pass or just getting off the line of scrimmage.

500
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Speaker 3: So separation in yards after the catchup actually kind of

501
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: moved contested catchability further down in how I grade wide

502
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Speaker 3: receivers because over time, it's not super predictive, and even

503
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 3: some of the better contested catch guys in college don't

504
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: really transition and are awesome once they get to the

505
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: NFL with the corners just bigger.

506
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Speaker 4: And faster and more aware.

507
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Speaker 2: All right, that's cool, Thanks for spilling that out. I

508
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: think that helps. Yeah, because I because I was looking

509
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: at it and I kind of got mesmerized by the

510
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: separators as well. And then the Coleman pick happens, and

511
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Speaker 2: I wasn't disappointed, but when I thought about it, I

512
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: was like being kind of clued to us in that

513
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: something like this could be coming, because he had talked

514
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: all through the pre draft process about diversifying the receiver room.

515
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: And if you think about it, you could argue Kinkaid

516
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: is a separator at the tight end position. Sure, Shakir

517
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: is a separator in the slot, and Samuel to a

518
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: certain degree can be a has been a separator in

519
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: his career. I don't know if he's as consistent as separator,

520
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: maybe as Shakir or Kincaid per se, but he can

521
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: do it and he has elite speed. And so I'm

522
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, well, duh, we should have expected that

523
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: they wanted up they were going to take up big

524
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: body guy in the draft, and that's what happened. So

525
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Speaker 2: I almost kind of got mad at myself A little

526
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: bit that you know you couldn't read between it made.

527
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Speaker 3: Sense right and at that point, like the caller said,

528
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: you know a lot of the big names, the bigger body.

529
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: Guys were gone, Yeah it was.

530
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Speaker 3: You're picking Xavier Worthy at at six foot one seventy.

531
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: Are you picking Lead McConkie, who's like my size, or

532
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: you're picking key On Coleman at six three two fifteen.

533
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: Ed Ni Mitchell was maybe the only other one, but

534
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: his yards after the catchability was essentially zero at Texas.

535
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: He would catch the ball fall down. Coleman again was

536
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: a punt returner at Florida State, Yeah, and was used

537
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: in the screen game. So I think diversifying and what

538
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: I envision is using these players in all different pre

539
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: snap alignments that we're gonna see Curtis Samuel on the boundary,

540
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna see Kincaid on the boundary, We're gonna see

541
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: Coleman in the slot to consistently keep defenses on their

542
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 3: heels where it's not as maybe static as it was

543
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: in the Stefan Diggs era where he was lined up

544
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: on the left as the X receiver. I think they

545
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: want to throw and get different matchups for all of

546
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: their weapons this upcoming.

547
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Speaker 2: Season, Samuel is probably going to be the most positionless

548
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: of the group. I mean, going back to his days

549
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: in Carolina and Washington, he would routinely line up in

550
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: the backfield and do a lot of the jet sweep stuff.

551
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: I would anticipate Brady is gonna use him in that

552
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: fashion to the hilt, so it wouldn't shock me at all.

553
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna be your head's gonna be spinning, like where

554
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: is Samuel on this play? Because I think he's gonna

555
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: be everywhere.

556
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Speaker 3: And what's interesting too, is that, I mean he's kind

557
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: of a question mark because we don't or just an

558
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: unknown because he's new to this Bills offense. But I

559
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: think last year, the fact that Dawson Knox missed as

560
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: much time as he did, and it was coupled with

561
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Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid's emergence, it's kind of easy to just kind

562
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: of forget about or like about Dawson Knocks when he's

563
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: one of the more athletic tight ends in the league,

564
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: can who's shown his ability, he's grown into becoming a

565
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: good blocker.

566
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Speaker 4: But you can certainly split.

567
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: Him out wide or in the slot and then have

568
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: Kincaid and tight. There's so many different formations that I

569
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: don't think with this new offense that other defenses say, Hey,

570
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: let's look back at the film to see what Joe

571
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: Brady wants to do. Yeah, I gotta go all the

572
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: way back to twenty twenty for that.

573
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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting because there's a lot of new pieces here.

574
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: Steve and I have said it on the air so

575
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: many In the receiver room, Khalil Shakir is the only

576
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: player who caught a pass from Josh Allen last season

577
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: in the receiver room, it's pretty wild. We got to

578
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Speaker 2: take a break here, but when we come back, we'll

579
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Speaker 2: get into more of your questions phone calls as we

580
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: have the obl Fan Friday mailbag open for you. Stay

581
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Speaker 2: tuned because we're also expecting to hear from Keon Coleman

582
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: after practice is over. He's scheduled to address the media,

583
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Speaker 2: and Chris and I will get into some of our

584
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Speaker 2: more interesting undrafteds that we discuss here. Next. On One

585
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio.

586
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Speaker 2: All right back here on a Friday, One Bill's Live.

587
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Chris Trapasso with you and in case you

588
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: didn't see the reports over the last two weeks. I mean,

589
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: as soon as the draft ended, people were you know,

590
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: they trickle out all these undrafted signings and whatnot, but

591
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: they're not official until the players get here for rookie

592
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: mini caamp and actually sign the contracts. And that's why

593
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: the Bills finally put their list out of undrafted rookie

594
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: free agent signings. Chris already talked about Keaton Bills, which

595
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: would be the best nameplate on the back of a

596
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: Bill's jersey. Ever Rode Greater type out of Utah, so

597
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: he likes him. I'm I'm kind of intrigued by the

598
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: punter that they brought in, the San Diego State kid

599
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: Jack Browning. Didn't have quite the numbers as his predecessor,

600
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: Matt Riza, who was a draft choice, but not far off.

601
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: This kid's got a monster leg. And I'm not gonna

602
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 2: say that a punter competition is frontline news for an

603
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: NFL team, but they've created a very interesting pool of

604
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: candidates here over the last six months. I think, as

605
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: we know, you know, their veteran Sam Martin was a

606
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: little bit up and down, finished strong. I think it

607
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: was special teams player of the month of December, if

608
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: I remember right, But then pulled his hamstring in the playoffs,

609
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 2: had some problems and was a little uneven through the

610
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: course of the season. For most of the year, he

611
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: was up and then he was down, and then he

612
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 2: back up again, then got hurt, and the and then

613
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: he got hurt. And the inconsistency is what confounds coaches.

614
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: And then they brought mac Hock in at the end

615
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: of the year. Who was here in twenty twenty one

616
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: when Tyler Bass had one of his best seasons with

617
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Hawk as his holder. So now you're like, well, is

618
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: there something to that? Now he's back, he's resigned, he's

619
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: here on the offseason roster, and then they bring this

620
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: kid in who's got some really nice credentials. I mean,

621
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: he did everything at San Diego State. He kicked off,

622
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: he punted, and he plays kicked. So he's here as

623
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: a punter from what we understand. But I mean sixty

624
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: one yard field goal against Air Force. Granted it's at altitude,

625
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, at Air Force at the Academy, but sixty

626
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: one sixty one yeah, and he's not even gonna do that.

627
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna be punted, but it just speaks to his leg,

628
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: and he's a lefty, so the ball spins differently off

629
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: a left foot for returners. Sometimes that crosses returners up

630
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: a little bit. So I just think it's an interesting

631
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: dark horse candidate at the punter position.

632
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Speaker 3: That is analysis I was not expecting today, but you

633
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: are very good with that stuff to dive super deep,

634
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: what I will say, and you gave way more info

635
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: than I was like even to give on that. What

636
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: I like about it from a team building perspective is

637
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: find a guy with the big leg. You don't want

638
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: to spend necessarily draft picks on punters, and a lot

639
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: of punters in the NFL were undrafted. You can find

640
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: those bigger legs. So I think it's almost smart to just,

641
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: even if your punter is pretty good, like you mentioned

642
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: Sam Martin, for all intents and purposes, had a pretty

643
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: good twenty twenty three, bring in some competition to see

644
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: if you can push him or maybe this guy's just

645
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: booting sixty seventy yard punts, and suddenly you again don't

646
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: have to pay as much and you're getting a guy

647
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: that you did not use a draft pick on for

648
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: your punting spot.

649
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 9: On the roster.

650
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: So the other two guys that I really am intrigued

651
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: with and want to see what they can do are

652
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: the two corners that they put on the undrafted signing list.

653
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Ken I Lovely, which is spelled k E and I

654
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: hyphen h, but we've been told it's pronounced ken I Lovely.

655
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: Western Michigan kid five ten, one seventy six and third

656
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: team All MAC just this past season, had some decent numbers,

657
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: you know. To me, he's a four to three to

658
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: eight guy, so elite speed, little undersized, and I think

659
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: they do see him as an outside corner, even though

660
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: he's five ten one seventy six, which isn't much bigger

661
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: than their draft choice Daikwon Hardy, who's going to be

662
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: a nickel. So I'm interested to see because he's described

663
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: as a feisty tackler in the run game, and we

664
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: know they love run support corners who are willing and

665
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: able to play physical in this defense. He fits that bill.

666
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: I was having trouble finding good tape from him. I

667
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: could find complete games for Western Michigan, but I just

668
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: wanted to kind of narrow in on him. Didn't get

669
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: enough to really formulate an opinion. I don't know if

670
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: you have any familiarity if whatsoever.

671
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: I didn't watch film on him. He wasn't super on

672
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: the draft radar, obviously. What I think is interesting that

673
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: you mentioned that he ran four three eight and he's

674
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: like more nickel cornerback size, but plays on the outside.

675
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: I wonder if, and maybe the Bills are one of

676
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: the teams or many, if we will start to see

677
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: more smaller outside corners play not in the slot. Because

678
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: we're seeing the Tank Dells and the Jordan Addisons and

679
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: the Deontay Johnson's. There's so many of these wide receivers,

680
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: even Xavier Worthy, who is under one hundred and eighty pounds.

681
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: They're not all just stuck in the slot. They're playing

682
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: on the boundary. And if while it's good theoretically to

683
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: have a six foot one, two hundred pound corner with

684
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: thirty three in charms, and the Bills have gravitated toward

685
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: those bigger types that can kind of suffocate those smaller

686
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: receivers at the line. If they don't win at the

687
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, they can be in trouble because those

688
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: guys are so good separating. So we've seen this shift

689
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: size wise at the receiver spot. Really the last like

690
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: two or three or four years where teams are unafraid

691
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: to draft sub one hundred and eighty pound receivers. I

692
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: wonder if Lovely is kind of that counter and saying, look,

693
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to just beat us

694
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: on the outside if you put Jordan Adison or Tank

695
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: Dell on the outside, because our corners are not quick enough.

696
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: At five nine hundred and seventy six pounds, maybe that's

697
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: the right size to play against those wide receivers.

698
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a worthwhile point. The other corner to

699
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: Corey Couch out of Miami five ten one eighty five. Now,

700
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: he was coached at Miami by Buffalo's new cornerbacks coach

701
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: Jamil Ladaie, So there's some familiarity there, which was probably

702
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: one of the big reasons why they were able to

703
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: successfully recruit him and sign him as an undrafted He's

704
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: got some familiarity walking in the door. He was also

705
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: a former college teammate of Greg Russeau. That's how long

706
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: he's been in college. To Corey Couch, he's a five

707
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: year player, got the COVID year. But I watched some

708
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 2: of his tape, not a ton. I think he's kind

709
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: of an opportunistic kid. He's one of those kids that'll

710
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: peel off his assignment and make a play on the

711
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: ball kind of guy. So he'll take risk. But I

712
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: don't think he takes unnecessary risk because I don't see

713
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: him getting burned and stuff like that. Only a four

714
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: to five guy four or five flat. I think he ran,

715
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: but I think that's good enough if you have the

716
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: foot ball smarts and instincts to get to places, you know,

717
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: before the receiver does. So I'm kind of interested to

718
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: see how he does because I know I was talking

719
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: to you before we came on the air today. You know,

720
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: you look at the corner position on the outside and

721
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: it's basically Douglas Benford Elam. And then you got the

722
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: kid from the practice squad last year, Kyrien Brown, who

723
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: had a nice camp. But that's essentially it. And you

724
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: know they want to bring more bodies in for camp

725
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: at the very least, yeah, because if you have one injury,

726
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: now you're suddenly shorthanded and you're scrambling. And to me,

727
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: it's interesting that to this point, you know, we saw

728
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean make May and June signings last year. You

729
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: know Pooniford, Leonard Floyd. But do they make a veteran

730
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: signing at outside corner. It might largely be based on

731
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: what they see from these two kids this weekend.

732
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the other one that I don't. I'm surprised

733
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: we haven't talked about yet. Frank cor Junior.

734
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Not. Well, I figured you had some info

735
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: on him, so I saved him for you.

736
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Chris.

737
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 9: Not.

738
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: And this is not just because of who his dad

739
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: was and that he played for the Bills a few

740
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 3: years ago.

741
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: I thought he was worth a draft pick. He's smaller.

742
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: That's really the only reason why I think he wasn't picked.

743
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: He's like five eight five nine, well under two hundred pounds.

744
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: And for as much as wide receivers have gotten lighter,

745
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: it still feels like teams want their running backs to

746
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: be at least around two hundred pounds. I mean, we've

747
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: seen some running backs like Bucky Irving from Oregon goes

748
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: in I believe the fourth round to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

749
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: who was around the same size as Frank Corer Junior.

750
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 3: But this is someone five point three yards per carry

751
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: in his Southern miss career, twenty six touchdowns, carried the

752
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: ball over four hundred or over seven hundred and fifty times.

753
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: Super elusive, like he has his dad's ability to make

754
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: a defender miss in the hole down the field, was

755
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: the workhorse between the tackles. If he was maybe an

756
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 3: inch taller and weighed ten more pounds. I think he's

757
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: definitely getting drafted because he started off very early in

758
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: his career at eighteen nineteen years old, proved he could play,

759
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 3: then became the belcow. I know they drafted Ray Davis,

760
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: but we've seen with this organization they don't. I mean,

761
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: they certainly will give Ray Davis opportunities ahead of Frank

762
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: Gore Junior, but they're not against. If Frank Gore Junior

763
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: shows that he's making guys miss and making plays in

764
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: these mini camps, that they will give him more opportunities.

765
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: And I think just his elusiveness, which is of course,

766
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: to me, the most important attribute that you can have

767
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: at the running back spot, his illusiveness I think could

768
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: earn him some attention once we get to training camp.

769
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: As usually so, he didn't run a good time. He

770
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: ran a four to six ' nine. Do you think

771
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: he plays faster than the time speed.

772
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: I don't there's times on film where he will make

773
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: a ridiculous cut in the hole, make another cut at

774
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: the second level, and it's like, oh, that's going to

775
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: be a touchdown, and he literally will like reverse field,

776
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: almost knowing I'm not going to win this race.

777
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna out angle anybody.

778
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's almost aware of it. And it sounds silly,

779
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: but I think that's actually good for Frank Gore Junior

780
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: because he doesn't try to lean on his speed. He

781
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: knows he's not incredibly fast. Even in his Conference USA,

782
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 3: he was not someone that was hitting sixty seventy yard

783
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: runs where he was running away and creating distance from

784
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: the defenders. But again in tight quarters, the suddenness that

785
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 3: you need the contact balance, I think is pretty good.

786
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: Even though he's a little bit of a smaller back.

787
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: So I think he runs like four to seven like

788
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: in that range.

789
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: On the field. Probably accurate, Yes, that's probably accurate.

790
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: He's not gonna be a big play guy, but he

791
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: kind of hides behind all the offensive linemen, and with

792
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: the Bills having a bigger line, I wouldn't be shocked

793
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: if he makes some.

794
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: Because he measured his pro day five to seven and five.

795
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 4: Eighths and like one eighty something.

796
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: I think he was a little big one ninety so

797
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: he's really compact when you think about it that way.

798
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: To look at heights and weights, and I do this

799
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: obviously with like three hundred guys in the draft process,

800
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: one ninety eight, so he's literally under five eight and like.

801
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: He's about two hundred two hundred.

802
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: So like when you compare him and Ray Davis, ray

803
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: Davis is bigger, but when you're looking at height weight ratios,

804
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: they're a similar thickness, okay.

805
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 4: So like with ray Davis being like what five eight

806
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: two eleven, eight.

807
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: To eleven, Okay, I thought he was a little taller

808
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: than that, Like I was thinking he was like closer

809
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: to five to ten. But to be under five eight

810
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: and be close to two hundred pounds you have the

811
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: lower half thickness that I think teams want in the NFL.

812
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 3: The height again hurts him.

813
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: Because if you're short and spindily, that's not good.

814
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: That's not good.

815
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: If you're close to two hundred pounds and under five

816
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: foot eight, I mean that's again that's the right type

817
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: of proportions that I think teams want at the running

818
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: The last.

819
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Guy that I wanted to cover was the defensive lineman,

820
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: the transfer that went from Wake Forest to Oklahoma, Rondel

821
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: bothroyd six three, two seventy three. He's kind of a

822
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: tweener type and did play defensive tackle and defensive end

823
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: in his time in college. Power player, you know, if

824
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: they do put him on the edge, he's strictly a

825
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: power guy, kind of in the shack loss in Mold,

826
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: I guess to kind of provide some familiarity. I don't

827
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: think he's anything special in terms of but I don't

828
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: think he's deficient across the board. He's like jack of

829
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: all trades type as I see it. He's not gonna

830
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: blow you away with burst, but he's not slow out

831
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: of his stance. He's not gonna knock over an offensive

832
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: lineman on a bull rush and pancake him. But he

833
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: can get push and collapse the pocket. He's not gonna,

834
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, swim somebody five snaps in a row, but

835
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: on occasion he'll get back there and all of a

836
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: sudden he's hitting the quarterback. So I don't know where

837
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: that puts him, but I think there's enough there to

838
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: warrant a look I guess is what I'm saying.

839
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: He kind of fits that mold of the type of

840
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: defensive lineman. I think it's really good for every team

841
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: to have that. He's listed at six three two seventy five,

842
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: so like you're mentioning first down, he's an end, second

843
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: and third down or the more obvious passing situations. Let

844
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: him get those more advantageous matchups against the center and

845
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: a guard. And what I like about his profile one

846
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty pressures on around thirteen hundred pass rushing

847
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: snaps in college, so he was close to a ten

848
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: percent pressure generation rate. And if you're inside, if you

849
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 3: get to double digits, that's really good. Now there's different

850
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: ways that you can get there. They were like stunting

851
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: him a lot. He wasn't, like you're saying, winning with

852
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: a variety of pass rush moves or athleticism. But he

853
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: proved capable across five seasons at Wake Forest and at

854
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: Oklahoma that he can pressure the quarterback. And when you

855
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: have that versatility at a unique frame, I think he's

856
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: kind of the type. Like you're saying that being undrafted

857
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: can make some noise because you could plug him anywhere,

858
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: and he can make some disruption in the backfield.

859
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: So position versatility, try hard overachiever type. Yes, that's usually

860
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: a guy that's gonna warran consideration for like a peace

861
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: squad spot, you know, maybe not the active roster as

862
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: a rookie, but might be able to lengthen his time

863
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: in the league on the practice squad. Yes, let's quickly

864
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: get back to the phones. Go to David in Rochester.

865
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 10: What's up, David, Hi, guys, I wanted to ask about

866
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 10: Justin Shorter. When the draft came around. I was pretty

867
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 10: glad that they traded back because they had already gotten

868
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 10: Samuel and Matt Collins in the off season. And I

869
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 10: don't hear much about Justin Shorter. I mean, he's a

870
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 10: big guy, came from a good program at Florida, played

871
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 10: in a tough conference. What do the coaches think of him?

872
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 10: What do you guys think of him? Is he is

873
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 10: he gonna make this team? Is he gonna be a contributor?

874
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think this year is certainly a

875
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: better shot for him to make the fifty three man

876
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: roster than last year because the receiving corps was a

877
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: lot deeper and I think once his injury popped up,

878
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the preseason, I think

879
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: almost as a matter of convenience, they put him on

880
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: injured redshirt year. Yeah, essentially for what amounts to a

881
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: redshirt year in the pros, because I don't think they

882
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: saw way for him to beyond the fifty three, because

883
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they envisioned him being on the game

884
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: day roster and wearing a jersey every Sunday because they

885
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: had people and too many people in front of him.

886
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: I think that the conversation is different now, it's wide

887
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: open totally, and I think this is a much better

888
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: opportunity for him this year. But we don't know much

889
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: about him. We saw him in a couple of preseason meets, yeah,

890
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 2: and then that was it, like we didn't see him again.

891
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

892
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: What I would say about him as a draft analyst

893
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: coming out of Florida last year, almost six four two

894
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: thirty was a perimeter and post route burner like ran

895
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: at that size running four or five to five. That's

896
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: really that long striding build ups still, speed, build up speed.

897
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: He's not gonna get open that often at the intermediate level.

898
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: But I think the Bills probably drafted him, maybe thinking well,

899
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: if Gabe Davis either disappoints or he's gone in twenty four,

900
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: maybe he could slide in and start as a wide

901
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: receiver four or five who can really just stretch the

902
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: defense with the size and speed that he brings to

903
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: the Yeah.

904
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: And then they went draft key on Coleman, and it's like, well,

905
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: maybe they're just taking multiple shots, yeah, to fill the

906
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: same role. And Coleman obviously comes in with a lot

907
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: more you know, cashe shall we say, being a second

908
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: round pick, first pick of the second round, as opposed

909
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: to Shorter, who was a fifth round draft selection. But

910
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: we'll see how it plays out. Got to take a

911
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: break here. We'll be back with more of your phone

912
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: calls and questions as it's an OBL Friday fan mail bag.

913
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: We'll also divvy up more of this undrafted class that

914
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: was just signed officially yesterday, the day before Rookie Mini Camp.

915
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: And be sure to stay tuned because we got key

916
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: on Coleman hopefully addressing the media after Rookie Mini Camp

917
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: practice one here on One Bill's Live.

918
00:43:41,320 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 5: Stay with us.

919
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

920
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: Chris Trapasso on an OBL fan Friday Mailbag. Any question

921
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: you've got, feel free to fire it off at us

922
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: either at eight h three oh five fifty one eight

923
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: A eight five fifty two five fifty or you can

924
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: always do it on the tweet sheet as well. Just

925
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: send it in at one Bill's Live. I was rifling

926
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: through the rest of the undrafted list, and I mean

927
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: nobody was, Like, nobody made me go ooh, look at

928
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: that guy, Lawrence Keys though the Tulane receiver, little guy

929
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: five nine one seventy one. I was unaware because he's

930
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: you know, he played last year, last two years, I

931
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: think at Tulane. I was unaware he was a Notre

932
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: Dame transfer. This guy's been at the school for like

933
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: six years. He went there. He was in Notre Dame

934
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one.

935
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: A lot of six year guys in this class.

936
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 9: What is he?

937
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: Twenty five twenty six?

938
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: Like, how love was this guy probably around twenty four

939
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: to twenty.

940
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: He didn't get a lot of playing time at Notre Dame,

941
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: so I understand the transfer going into the portal and

942
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Fifty nine catches eight hundred and fifty

943
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: eight receiving yards nine touchdowns for the Green Wave. That

944
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: was over two seasons twenty two and twenty three, so

945
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: still not a lot. But I think the return candidacy

946
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: is an issue there. He averaged twenty six point eight

947
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: yards on kick returns, and you know, I think it's

948
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: safe to say that with the drafting of Daikwon Hardy

949
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: the departure of Deontay Hardy, you know, the return jobs

950
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: are wide open hod now for this football team.

951
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's someone that averaged over eighteen yards of

952
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: catch last season at two lane, so he even though

953
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 3: he didn't test particularly well, didn't have like a forty

954
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: inch vertical or anything like that, he probably does bring

955
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: at least competition, Like you're saying early on they drafted

956
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Daiquon Hardy, and you know, Brandon Bean has said it

957
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 3: was with the backup nickel corner mine, but also with

958
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: the new kicking rules the return job in mind, that

959
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: could be the case for Keys as well, that he

960
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: could just be at least catching kickoffs and see what

961
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: he can show.

962
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: And it's not just him, because one of the other

963
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: undrafted receivers that Xavier Johnson kid from Ohio States one

964
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: two four, a little bit bigger prospect, but also kick

965
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: return experience with him and another guy that found himself

966
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: buried on the depth chart couldn't get on the field.

967
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Marvin Harrison and the Gweg Boo

968
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: or I can't even say his name right.

969
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 4: Buka boot. Yeah, he's gonna be a first rounder next year. Yeah,

970
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: Garrett will say he.

971
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Can't get on the field. So he was a return

972
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: guy for Ohio State, and you know he's from Cincinnati.

973
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: Another six year player just kind of hung on there

974
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, but another return candidate. I found it

975
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: interesting that we're looking for receivers in the undrafted ranks

976
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: with returner backgrounds. I just think it speaks to they

977
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: want to shotgun spray the return positions.

978
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: And it's good to bring that up because for the

979
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: longest time, for the last ten years or so, we've

980
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: kind of like forgotten about returners. I always think back

981
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: to when the Bills drafted li Otis Mcalvin. It was, oh,

982
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: he's a great corner and he's a great returner, because

983
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: that was like a thing back then early to mid

984
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: two thousands where it was like how good is your

985
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: return ability? Because the kickoff rules were so different then

986
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: and then the.

987
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: Parish was another guy CJ.

988
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: Spiller offered that and that that was like, oh, a

989
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: little cherry on top of your draft resume. The last

990
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: five to seven to ten years, it's like, all right,

991
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: every kickoff is going to basically be a touchback.

992
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: Now it's different.

993
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what also makes it different too is obviously

994
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: the new kickoff rules that are coming in. So this

995
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: is just the way I think sometimes because maybe I'm

996
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: around the bend, but I'm like, okay, they're pretty much

997
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: tearing up the playbook for the for the kickoff return

998
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: now because it's completely different. Everything you've done in the

999
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: past almost doesn't hold water because it's more like a

1000
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage play than it is a true special

1001
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: teams cover forty yards and find the ball carrier, make

1002
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: it play. So I wonder if they're saying, look, let's

1003
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: throw multiple players at this role and see who takes

1004
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: to it the quickest, Who is quick on the uptake

1005
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: running this kind of kick return. If you're quick on

1006
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 2: the uptake in this new kick return world, you could

1007
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: get yourself a roster spot, or at the very least

1008
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: a practice squad spot, and get called up on game

1009
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: days if there's an injury to return kicks or something.

1010
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: I think there's an opportunity for guys like Xavier Johnson

1011
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: and Lawrence Keys that maybe wasn't there just a couple

1012
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: of years ago, just to this kickoff play.

1013
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: That is absolutely true and they can again. It would

1014
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: have been silly two to three to four to five

1015
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: years ago to have someone as just your kickoff specialist.

1016
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: You would never say, hey, he's only going to be

1017
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: a returner. It was usually a backup wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie.

1018
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean there was a period where like Michael Hyde

1019
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: was just catching punts because they were having problems with

1020
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: ball security. But now you could be a Lawrence Keys.

1021
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: Let's say where you're you're the seventh receiver on the

1022
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: depth chart. You're not going to see the field on offense,

1023
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: but you make a few plays, you take a kickoff

1024
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: and you start the Bills on the forty five yard

1025
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: line or return one past midfield, you've done your job

1026
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: as this kind of bottom of the roster player in

1027
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: a very niche role.

1028
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 2: So that's kind of a look at the undrafted free

1029
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: agent rookie class that the Bills put officially under contract yesterday.

1030
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: For Rookie Minning Camp. Today, we will take a break here.

1031
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: When we come back, we hope to have Keon Coleman

1032
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: the podium addressing the media after his first mini camp practice,

1033
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 2: which is wrapping up right about now, about one hundred

1034
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: yards away from us on the grass practice field outside.

1035
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: We hope to bring key on to you next here

1036
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Colidea Health.

1037
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 11: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1038
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by ca Help.

1039
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: All right, our number two on a Friday, Chris Brown,

1040
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: Chris Trapasso with you. Day one of Rookie Mini Camp

1041
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: for the Bills is in the books and addressing the

1042
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: media now at the post practice lectern is one Keon Coleman.

1043
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: Let's go there now.

1044
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 12: It was good. I have fun, We have fun. We

1045
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 12: getting better. So looking forward to tomorrow, there's.

1046
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 13: So many different ROOKIESFA tryal guys out there. What are

1047
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 13: you doing to build relationships?

1048
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: Really?

1049
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 12: To start with ball, start to understand you know what

1050
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 12: they like about ball, you know the favorite parts of it,

1051
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 12: and then you start to relate to the off the

1052
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 12: field stuf. You know, the guys in the hotel. So

1053
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 12: we got roommates and stuff, so be able to get

1054
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 12: close closer with them, conversation you know you probably played

1055
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 12: against some of the guys or why is they tape somewhere?

1056
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 12: So really just talking ball and then the person's life

1057
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 12: after us.

1058
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: Sure, the past few weeks has been up bit with

1059
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: wardwind Foryr since getting drafted. What is it like to

1060
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: get back onto this football field to do.

1061
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 14: What you want to field?

1062
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 12: I mean, that's probably the best felling in the world.

1063
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 12: You know, all the other stuff that's cool and all,

1064
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 12: but the main thing is the main thing, trying to

1065
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 12: get better on the football field, learn the playbook, and

1066
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 12: impact the team and try to help win. That's that's

1067
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 12: really what I'm what I'm focused on, what I really

1068
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 12: care about. So it's great to finally get back to it.

1069
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: What were the emotions like with the Bills, don't they

1070
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: put the.

1071
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: Jersey off the first time?

1072
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 12: Just a bunch of l like a bunch of jitters.

1073
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 12: I called my brother, you know, I was just it

1074
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 12: is exciting, you know, the moment get down played because

1075
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 12: you the process is so long. But I think once

1076
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 12: I put once I grabbed the hammet and put it

1077
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 12: on it kind of it shook me back. To real life,

1078
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 12: like this this a reality now.

1079
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 9: So we mentioned the playbook when did you? But when

1080
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 9: do you get that?

1081
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: And like, what what's it been like the process?

1082
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 11: It's it's a lot I'm assuming and how they give

1083
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 11: it to you.

1084
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 9: But what's it been like for you?

1085
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 7: Is starting to figure out what they.

1086
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 9: Want to or I mean it's been pretty smooth.

1087
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 15: You know.

1088
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 12: Coach uh, Coach Henry, he's been helping me a lot.

1089
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 12: You know, we've been zooming uh the past week or

1090
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 12: so and just breaking it down into pieces. Understand the

1091
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 12: terminology and within each play what they're trying to get

1092
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 12: done was the reason that makes it very very simple

1093
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 12: because it's only so many concepts you can run.

1094
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 9: It's just the terminology.

1095
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 12: Once you get that down and then there's gonna be

1096
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 12: a lot, but you'll be able to adjust.

1097
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 7: How does it comfort the state?

1098
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 9: Uh, it's a lot different. I say it's a lot different.

1099
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 12: It's more similar to my Michigan State playbook, so that

1100
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 12: it's kind of like, you know, kind of like the same.

1101
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 13: Thing when it comes to studying a playbook, getting up

1102
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 13: to date, really kind of diving into what your next

1103
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 13: year is gonna look like? What do you like to

1104
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 13: do to feel like you know that like the back

1105
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 13: of your hand.

1106
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 12: Uh So with the film, like with the actual plays,

1107
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 12: with the lines and stuff, it's plays love footage behind

1108
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 12: it on your tablet. I like to draw it out,

1109
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 12: take the notes, draw it out, and then continue to

1110
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 12: do it on whiteboards and then quiz myself. That's that's

1111
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 12: probably my my favorite way to do it.

1112
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 9: How long have you done with that?

1113
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 16: Wife?

1114
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 5: Like?

1115
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 17: Was that all through all college?

1116
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 15: Or is it?

1117
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 9: Didn't worry? Not always?

1118
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 12: You know, my first my first my freshman year was

1119
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 12: a little different. It took a while to kind of

1120
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 12: understand how to learn him. So once I got that,

1121
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 12: maybe midway through the season, it that kind of that's

1122
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 12: kind of what I did.

1123
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: Spent a lot of time with coach Brady during practice today.

1124
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: What's it like that dynamic being coached by him?

1125
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 12: I mean it means a lot. You know, he knows

1126
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 12: what he's talking about on the football field. He's a

1127
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 12: great oc I think he's probably the best in the

1128
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 12: league at what he does. And you know, he loves ball.

1129
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 12: I love ball, and we we understand each other. You know,

1130
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 12: he was down in Louisiana for for his stint and

1131
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 12: you know, I think it's nothing better than a boot boy,

1132
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 12: And we just got a great relationship. And just being

1133
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 12: able to be that close to my office of coordinator,

1134
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 12: it means a lot to me, you know, building our relationship.

1135
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 15: Are you good?

1136
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: Good?

1137
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 8: What's his energy like?

1138
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 12: Just to follow up whatn He kind of reminded me

1139
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 12: of myself, just a little bit older, but he's still

1140
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 12: you know, he's still can crack a few jokes here

1141
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 12: and there, get a bit, get a good laugh.

1142
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: What's been the most surprising reaction you've received since being

1143
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: drafted by this organization from maybe this fan base or.

1144
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 9: Others, the most shocking.

1145
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, I had a I had a box uh Chiple

1146
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 12: hard cookies at my UH at my locker and some

1147
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 12: of like the fans, the mail from some of the

1148
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 12: fans is it was great, the Chipple hard cookies. Kind of,

1149
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 12: I was like, huh, I didn't get it. I was like,

1150
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 12: I thought I was tripping, but that that was it.

1151
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 12: Other than that, you know, that's it.

1152
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: I'm the tripped your whoy fans.

1153
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I eat him, but I just wasn't it.

1154
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 12: I wouldn't expecting no cookies at my at my UH

1155
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 12: at my locker and it was in a box box.

1156
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 12: I was like, what could this possibly be? So I

1157
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 12: opened it up. I'm like and it was like a

1158
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 12: big box.

1159
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 9: I'm like, yikes. He called me off guard.

1160
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 13: How Henry coach up his wide receivers. What do you

1161
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 13: like most about the way he goes about that?

1162
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 10: Uh?

1163
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 12: He very hands on, So he gonna walk you through

1164
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 12: each part of it a few times to make sure

1165
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 12: you really get it, so you're not that out there

1166
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 12: messing up. So, like I said, really just hands on,

1167
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 12: very hands on from the team.

1168
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: Maybe more conversations with Josh. Have you heard from over

1169
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: the past.

1170
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 9: Few weeks since getting drafted kJ Hamler?

1171
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 12: I heard from James Me and James is out there

1172
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 12: in Houston and got we ain't get the work out together.

1173
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 12: I ended up having to leave. But uh, I think

1174
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 12: that's it. It's just those two. I think I should

1175
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 12: be seeing the rest of the guys here next week

1176
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 12: as they come back. You know, they've been in you

1177
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 12: know and joining themselves, so you know, I'm looking forward

1178
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 12: to it.

1179
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: If you had it, yeah, since you got hit the buffle,

1180
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 4: where you've been like.

1181
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 12: MoMA's actually, like I said, really, once I put the

1182
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 12: hammet on you know that that kind of shook me

1183
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 12: back to reality, Like you know, it's finally here and

1184
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 12: let's get to it.

1185
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 15: Be aware of the buzz, the hype that you just

1186
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 15: with your first press conference here a couple of weeks

1187
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 15: back created with the jacket, the cookies, all that stuff,

1188
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 15: and how you kind of helped cement something.

1189
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 16: But you build a tie with those fans almost immediately.

1190
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 9: I'm aware of it.

1191
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 12: But like I said earlier, I'm happy to keep the

1192
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 12: main thing the main thing. Get back to playing ball,

1193
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 12: so you know, the hype can be there all at once,

1194
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 12: but I still have to make play on the field

1195
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 12: and I want to help contribute to win. So we

1196
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 12: got to win to make our fans happy. At Jacket,

1197
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 12: ain't gonna get that done.

1198
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 13: Speaking keeping the main thing the main thing, what are

1199
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 13: your goals this weekend? You guys are at it the

1200
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 13: next couple of days.

1201
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 12: Oh, just learn as much as I can within the playbook,

1202
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 12: getting know the guys that are here and enjoyed this

1203
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 12: brotherhood we got as rookies, as UDFA guys, as guys

1204
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 12: that's trying out and stuff like that. Just get as

1205
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 12: close to those guys, enjoy this process as a rookie

1206
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 12: and just learning soaking as much as I can.

1207
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 10: Hey on you did you reach out to Andre reid

1208
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 10: Or and how did that come about?

1209
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I did.

1210
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 12: It came about just you know, I was taught to

1211
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 12: always respect those that stepped before you, so the pat

1212
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 12: that he paved here and the legacy you love here

1213
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 12: hall of Famer. So I just felt out it was

1214
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 12: respect of respecting to reach out and just asking for

1215
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 12: whatever advice you know, he can give me, and just

1216
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 12: to be able to keep as a mentorship from him.

1217
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 12: And I felt that it'd be a great resources. You know,

1218
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 12: you were always going to use the resources provided to you,

1219
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 12: so and more so just showing I respect that, you know,

1220
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 12: I respect everything that he's done and looking for to

1221
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 12: you know, competing as a billy.

1222
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 16: How about ho did you do on this franchise?

1223
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 5: In that?

1224
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 16: In that? How much homework did you do on this

1225
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 16: franchise to know who Andrey read was his? You weren't

1226
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 16: even born when he was alive either, you know, when

1227
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 16: he was playing. But I'm just saying it's impressive that

1228
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 16: you did your homework.

1229
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 12: I mean, it's just saying that I wasn't born with

1230
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 12: Jordan was playing, but I still know who he is.

1231
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 12: So it's like, just want to know about football. You

1232
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 12: have to know, like I said, you have to know

1233
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 12: about the guys that came before you. So that's a

1234
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 12: you know, that's a big thing.

1235
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 17: Is there anything he told you when you reach out?

1236
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 6: Kind of stuck with you, like.

1237
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 12: Really just embridge the process and you know, as stuff

1238
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 12: started to simmer down, will continue to talk more. But

1239
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 12: when I did reach out was you know, it was

1240
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 12: a lot going on within back and forth trying to

1241
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 12: get back to the training and all.

1242
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 9: The trips and stuff.

1243
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 12: So looking forward to having more conversation, but the main

1244
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 12: thing was really just enjoy the process, taking all you

1245
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 12: can take in and just put your head down to

1246
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 12: be ready to work.

1247
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 8: What has it kind of been like you.

1248
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: Talking about getting that helmet on?

1249
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 10: They can it feel real?

1250
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 6: Like with so much distractions with social media and all

1251
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: this stuff. What does it kind of been like these

1252
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 6: last couple of weeks, especially with.

1253
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 7: Like finally getting outss football actually playing football.

1254
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 17: I guess what is?

1255
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 13: It feltic kind of not getting lost in all those.

1256
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 12: Distractions you pay, I mean it felt great, Like I said,

1257
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 12: the distractions only become distractions if you let it distract you.

1258
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 12: But I've always been, like I said, remaining humble and

1259
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 12: ready to work and trying to get better. So the

1260
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 12: fact that I was able to get back on the field,

1261
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 12: give my feedbab back with my Cleatson and get on

1262
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 12: the turf, It's been great. I've been having fun and

1263
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 12: you know, I'm looking forward to continue to play. He

1264
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 12: had a question about that.

1265
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 17: Just get a sense of your jump from college to

1266
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 17: hear just to playbook And what's the difference between this

1267
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 17: playbook and they when you first learn to playbook in Florida.

1268
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 17: You know what's different.

1269
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 12: So, uh, the terminology. They require you to have more

1270
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 12: of an IQ. You know, they're not gonna just make

1271
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 12: sure everything you know word for word, but they're gonna

1272
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 12: help you enough. But a lot of things you do

1273
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 12: have to You have to know some things, and you

1274
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 12: have to know a variety of things because at the

1275
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 12: line of the scrimmage, different things it happens, the defense

1276
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 12: dictates what you're really trying to accomplish. So being able

1277
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 12: to check things at the line, no multiple positions, you know,

1278
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 12: that's the that's the you know, the.

1279
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 9: Baseline of baseline.

1280
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 12: But once you get into the complex, the complex part

1281
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 12: of football within routes, double moves, motions and you know,

1282
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 12: attacking certain defenses with the leverages and stuff. I think

1283
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 12: that's really just the biggest adjustment. And it's a lot,

1284
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 12: it's a lot, it's a lot past paper, probably this big.

1285
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 12: So that's probably a whole college play.

1286
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 17: But you know, videos if you are on buffalos dot

1287
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 17: com with the teams and you know, explain those videos.

1288
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 17: So I guess my intrigue is you seem to know

1289
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 17: all that stuff should come easy. I mean, it seems complex,

1290
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 17: but to you to absorb it pretty well.

1291
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I I wouldn't say it would come easy.

1292
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 12: It kind of do, but it's like it took a

1293
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 12: lot of uh, watching film, asking questions to get to

1294
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 12: that point. So, you know, furthering my knowledge within the

1295
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 12: coaching I had at Michigan State, they kind of helped

1296
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 12: me get there and then they just continue to love

1297
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 12: up from there. As you meet more intelligent guy, more

1298
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 12: high IQ guys, You ask questions, and you know, you

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01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 12: get to.

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Speaker 9: Learn more and more and more.

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Speaker 2: You know, what was it like having Hyrol Shaffers out

1302
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: there today and what we were a rushing to watching

1303
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: him doing tech.

1304
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 9: Masks man feel good due quick do quick.

1305
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 12: So we've been a job being able to talk to him,

1306
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 12: you know, just the first day that we had and

1307
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 12: looking forward to continue to build that relationship with him.

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Speaker 9: All right, Thank you guys, thank you appreciate all right.

1309
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: So that's Keon Coleman addressing the media after his first

1310
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: day of Rookie Minnie Camp. That will obviously run through

1311
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: the weekend Saturday and Sunday before they're done, and then

1312
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: the rest of the team comes in and the entire

1313
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: roster will be pulled together and that's when the rubber

1314
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: really meets the road for rookies because here in the

1315
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: rookie mini camp they're getting a lot more one on

1316
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: one attention, a lot more instruction from the position coaches.

1317
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Because the numbers are smaller, they have more time to

1318
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: give to the young players who are trying to quite

1319
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: literally learn on the fly. Now it's on them after

1320
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 2: this weekend to get it down because when they come back,

1321
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: it's going to go up a notch for sure in

1322
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: terms of speed, and the time to ask questions of

1323
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: coaches is going to be minimized because you're now gonna

1324
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: have ninety guys here.

1325
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: And you're gonna be playing against veterans, guys that have

1326
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: done this in NFL games in training camps, so the

1327
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 3: level of competition will certainly go up as well. I

1328
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: have a confession to make that it's easy during a

1329
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 3: season or certainly in the offseason. It's easy to get

1330
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: to a player press conference and you can kind of

1331
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: just not fall asleep, but just hear the same answers

1332
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: over and over again.

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Speaker 4: You're not paying attention. You and I are talking off

1334
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: the air.

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Speaker 3: I was glued to that press conference from Keim Coleman,

1336
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: and what's I found is so interesting about him is

1337
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 3: beyond how just down to earth he seems, and he

1338
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: can you know, he's pretty witty. He can be really funny,

1339
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: as we've seen early on. I love that he also

1340
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: likes to mention that he's kind of a playbook jump

1341
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: and he'll ask questions and there he mentioned I like

1342
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 3: to draw my routes and then erase it and then

1343
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: quiz myself. This is not someone who's just totally goofy

1344
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: and doesn't really have a care in the world outside

1345
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: of what he needs to do. He seems actually beyond

1346
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: how funny he is and how genuinely authentic he is,

1347
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: that he's actually a student of the game and understands

1348
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: the complexities that you know, it takes to run specific

1349
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: routes and maybe you cut a rout a little short

1350
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: against this defense. He mentioned that right after the draft

1351
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 3: he mentioned that there, so I was like super glued

1352
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 3: to everything he was saying, when that's usually not the

1353
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: case for every single player out there that give a

1354
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: lot of just PC answers. But I like that he

1355
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: is able to show that he cares from the mental side.

1356
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think we saw him strike a much

1357
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: different tone in this press conference than the one when

1358
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: he came into town after getting drafted. I mean, he

1359
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: was playful and jovial the day after he got picked,

1360
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: you know, coming in here draft weekend. Today a lot

1361
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: more busy, Like yes, I think in his approach and

1362
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Speaker 2: you kind.

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01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: Of have to strike that balance.

1364
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the work starts now. And he said it

1365
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: multiple times, like, hey, we got to get to work now,

1366
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: Like he knows that it's not all rainbows and pixie

1367
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: sticks here. There's a lot of work involved in becoming

1368
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: a successful professional at this level in this league. So

1369
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad that there's an awareness. There's a keen awareness

1370
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: there based on some of the answers that he provided.

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Speaker 3: And a keen awareness too that he mentioned during that

1372
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: press conference that like, I think someone asked about, you know,

1373
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: the now famous first interview that you're mentioning with the

1374
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: yellow Macy's jacket and the cookies, but he said, like,

1375
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's not going to really matter unless we're

1376
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: winning games and I'm producing. So it's not like he's

1377
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 3: focused on his social media brand and going viral. It

1378
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: seems like that's part of Kean Coleman, and I think

1379
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: the Bills have really fostered this culture of being yourself,

1380
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: being played full Trenevious White, Josh Allen goops around here

1381
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: and there, but also being understanding of what actually matters.

1382
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: Once you're now it's your job to be in the

1383
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: NFL and you're not going to a rebuilding team. You're

1384
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: going to a team that's a super Bowl contender.

1385
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: In case you were wondering who was throwing the football

1386
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: to Keon Coleman, the Bills have two quarterbacks here for

1387
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: the rookie mini camp, and they are Gunner Watson, who

1388
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: is a Troy University product just finished up his college

1389
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: career with Javon Solomon, who's obviously here as a draft

1390
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: choice and a pass rusher. And then Jacob Eason is

1391
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: the other quarterback, former fourth round pick, I want to say,

1392
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, and you know he's bounced around the league

1393
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: as a backup. Yeah, big arm and big player. And

1394
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: I looked at his measurables and I'm like, oh, six six,

1395
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty one pounds. Are they trying to mimic?

1396
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: You know, how the flight of the ball is going

1397
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: to come out of Josh Allen's hand. Maybe he's got

1398
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: a big arm too. Maybe not a Josh Allen arm,

1399
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: but he's got a big arm. Played at Georgia and

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01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: Washington in his college career.

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: He was I think the number I'm checking right now,

1402
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: but I think he was maybe the number one or number.

1403
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 4: Two overall quarterback recruit going into John Oh height.

1404
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: So the traits are there, like you're saying, yeah, that

1405
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: this is someone who can really.

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: But I think they're trying. You know, I guess if

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: you can mimic Josh Allen in any way possible in

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01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 2: terms of throwing mechanics, height, weight, arm strength, maybe they're

1409
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: trying to do that here to kind of help the

1410
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: rookies acclimate all the quicker. It's like, oh, this was

1411
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: just like last weekend, you know, to a certain extent.

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01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying Jacob Eeson is Josh Allen.

1413
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: I just think they if they have the ability to

1414
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: mimic how it looks and how it feels, mimic it

1415
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: if it's going to help your rookies even a little bit.

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01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: For sure.

1417
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's to then, like you're mentioning that we're

1418
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: going to get to these OTAs and regular mini camps

1419
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: with everyone here, Josh Allen's going to be throwing those

1420
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 3: dig routes over the middle at about sixty five miles

1421
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 3: per hour. It makes more sense to have someone that's

1422
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: at least similar to that, where suddenly the football is

1423
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: not getting on these younger wide receivers, including obviously Kean

1424
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 3: Coleman too quickly because they're not used to that. Eesan

1425
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: I just looked, was a five star recruit, the number

1426
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: two pro style recruit in the entire country coming into Georgia.

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01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 4: Like four or five, early five or six years ago.

1428
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 3: So the arm strength like you mentioned, six six two

1429
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: thirty one and size similar to Josh Allen.

1430
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: Let's spin it over to the mail bag where the

1431
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: questions have been coming in, and any and all questions

1432
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: under the sun are fair game here as it pertains

1433
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: to the Bills, and Jack leads us off in the

1434
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag and asks, the Bills have made

1435
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: several additions since the draft, what do we know about

1436
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: these four or five guys and what chances do they

1437
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: have to make the team, especially at linebackers? Should we

1438
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: take another edition there to mean Milana won't be ready

1439
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: and we'll have a down year like Miller did. I

1440
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 2: don't know if I would go that far. And you're

1441
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: talking about the signing at Dion Jones, the veteran free

1442
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: agent who was with Carolina last year. I think it's insurance,

1443
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: but I don't know that it's terribly more than that.

1444
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Dion Jones was kind of like a supernova.

1445
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he was like third and defensive Player of

1446
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: the Year or defensive Rookie of the Year rating as

1447
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: a rookie with Atlanta and had a good second year

1448
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: as well, and then kind of tapered off after that

1449
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: and now he's in the bounce around stage of his career.

1450
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: Not saying he can't still contribute and be a capable

1451
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: NFL linebacker. And I know the Milano thing is of

1452
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: a concern, especially since Brandon Being told us at the

1453
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: Combine that he would not expect Milano back on the

1454
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: field full time with his teammates until training camp, and

1455
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: even the early stages of training camp that's not a lock.

1456
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: So I think he's going to be brought along slowly

1457
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: in a limited capacity when he does get back on

1458
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: the field. So I understand why you're trying to connect

1459
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: the dots there, But I think depth going into this

1460
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: offseason was an issue at the linebacker position because they

1461
01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: walked into the offseason with Baylen Spector, Terrell Bernard, Matt Mulano,

1462
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: and Dorian Williams. Those are the only linebackers they had

1463
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: under contract, and so they've made additions there. I mean,

1464
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: you got Yulafotio in the draft and they have some

1465
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: undrafted kids here, but also Dion Jones Nicholas Morrow who

1466
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: came over in free agency from Philadelphia. So I think

1467
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: they want to attack a lot of these defensive positions

1468
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: with numbers. Yeah, and they did it in the draft.

1469
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 2: They had drafted every level of their defense in the draft,

1470
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: and I think they're doing it in free agency as well.

1471
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we went into this offseason like with

1472
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: the Jordan Poyer cut, the Mitch Morse cut, Tredevious White

1473
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 3: getting released like that.

1474
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 4: This was a little bit of a turnover.

1475
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: Year on defense, more so than in previous year.

1476
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 3: More so than in previous years where there had been

1477
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: so much stability in guys resigning, guys coming back. With

1478
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 3: Poyer and Hyde coming back, Milano not hitting free agency

1479
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: resigning a few years ago, that doesn't mean that there's

1480
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: going to be a precipitous drop off on defense. But

1481
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 3: like you're saying, this is a roster that can get

1482
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 3: to ninety or ninety one players, now you want to

1483
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: fill it out with, especially when you have Milana where

1484
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 3: you're saying, we're not he's not even gonna come close

1485
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: to the field until July.

1486
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: Throw in Nicholas Morrow, and.

1487
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: Throw in twenty nine year old Dion Jones, who does

1488
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: have the athleticism and an athletic right linebacker in the

1489
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 3: draft in Ulafohio. So it makes sense more so than oh, hey,

1490
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 3: this is a sign that Dion Jones is going to

1491
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: be the starting week side linebacker Week one.

1492
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones at eight oh

1493
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1494
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: two five fifty and to Judy and Buffalo X.

1495
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: What do you got first, Judy, Yeah, I'm responding to

1496
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: early private stations.

1497
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 10: That they.

1498
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: The Jets will win the division over the Bills or

1499
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Yep, I want to ask you, uh, okay,

1500
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: who has the better quarterback? The Bills coaching staff. I

1501
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: think the Bills talent wise are that's that's yet to

1502
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: be proven. So I don't understand this. To the Jets,

1503
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: if we're gonna our main rival remains to be the Dolphins,

1504
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: because they have talent, they have coaching, and the only

1505
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: advantage we have is with the quarterback. So you know,

1506
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: whatever said and done, we've got to win our division.

1507
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: Why are the Jets supposedly superior to either one of

1508
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: those teams.

1509
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair question to ask, Judy. And if

1510
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: you remember to just last year, they were saying the

1511
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: same exact thing. The Jets are gonna win the division.

1512
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: They said it last year. I remember even seeing and

1513
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: this is a little preposterous and I can't even believe

1514
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm giving a credence by mentioning it again. I saw

1515
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: a national media person pick the Bills to finish last

1516
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: in the division last year.

1517
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: Just look at the rosters.

1518
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: So look, it's like Steve says here all the time,

1519
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: the yes, the Bills had more roster turnover. But if

1520
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: you think about it from a national media person's perspective,

1521
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: the only thing they see with respect to the Bills

1522
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: roster is Diggs is not on it anymore. Mitch Morris

1523
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: is not on it anymore. Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Tredavious

1524
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: White run down the list. Those are the six most

1525
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: recognizable names out of the top ten on the roster.

1526
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 2: And so they see that as departures and they say, ah,

1527
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to overcome that in one offseason.

1528
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna take a step back and look at the Jets.

1529
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: Who's coming back this year, Aaron Rogers. And so it's

1530
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: you have to take these national perspectives with a grain

1531
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: of salt. They're looking at it from a ten thousand

1532
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: foot view. They look at the big names, are they in,

1533
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: are they out? And they make an opinion. Don't take

1534
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: it as gospel, because more often than not, they're wrong.

1535
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: If you want to get a sense as to what's

1536
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: really happening with all of these teams, I would encourage

1537
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: you to go seek out the beat reporters that cover

1538
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: the team every day. They're plugged in, and their opinions,

1539
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: in my estimation, carry far more weight than the national

1540
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: people that unfortunately you see a lot more of, but

1541
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 2: they see a lot less of those teams, and to me,

1542
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: their opinions don't carry as much weight as the daily

1543
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: beat reporters who are on the beat every day all year.

1544
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: The one thing I would say, I think there is

1545
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 3: a little credence to it because Aaron Rodgers is returning.

1546
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ones.

1547
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: Specific about that that I have the biggest concern with,

1548
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: And I do think the Bills have a pretty sizable

1549
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: advantage in the coaching realm there because Sean mcdermot's been

1550
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: just the staple of consistency.

1551
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: Robert Salin not so much. Is that.

1552
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 3: I wonder if Aaron Rodgers now at forty one, coming

1553
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 3: off a torn achilles, Yes it was in Week one

1554
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 3: against the Bills, it was so long ago, will he

1555
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: still have that off structure ability that I think was

1556
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: kind of an underrated element to when he was winning

1557
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 3: those MVPs, going to winning a super Bowl. He could

1558
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: do everything from the pocket, but those kind of like

1559
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: lesser versions of what Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes do now,

1560
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 3: like running left, running right, flicking it is he going

1561
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 3: to be able to do that at forty one and

1562
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 3: coming off of torn achilles. If you take that away

1563
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,919
Speaker 3: from him, I think he can still be a quality quarterback.

1564
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1565
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: If it's the Aaron Rodgers that the Jets signed two

1566
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 3: years ago.

1567
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a twenty five touchdown guy instead of a forty.

1568
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: Touch There you go, and that's could be all the difference.

1569
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: It's a huge winning the division or finishing third in

1570
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: this division.

1571
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Steve in West Seneca. What do

1572
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: you got for a Steve.

1573
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 8: Right, Chris Listen, I have two things for you, Yeah, Okay.

1574
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 8: Number one is, I don't think the gentleman talked earlier

1575
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 8: this week or last week Friday that our offense is

1576
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 8: going to take a step back. I don't think so.

1577
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 8: We had a ton to drop passes last year. I

1578
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 8: believe we led the league by our receiving corps. We

1579
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 8: had fifteen interceptions and a bunch of fumbles. You cut

1580
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 8: that in a third or a half and we'll be fine.

1581
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 8: And the second one is, what do you think about this?

1582
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 8: If if teams continue to poach players from other teams

1583
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 8: practice squads, why not charge them like a draft choice,

1584
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 8: a fourth round or a fifth or even a third.

1585
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 8: It will stop real fast. I'll hang up and listen. Thanks, guys.

1586
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting that's an interesting thought kind of

1587
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: reward the teams that actually know how to draft late

1588
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: in the draft but have such good rosters they can't

1589
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: keep them on their fifty three I would I would

1590
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: say I would be in favor of that, but I

1591
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: think here's the rub I can't see the NFL Player

1592
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: Association going along with that, because then what you're doing

1593
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 2: is you're depriving players on a this squad to make

1594
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: a fifty three man roster salary, which is in stark

1595
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: contrast to what you make on a practice squad. You

1596
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: make significantly more money on the fifty three man roster,

1597
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 2: and I think the NFLPA would cry foul and would

1598
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: argue that you're costing players opportunities to make a better

1599
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: living in the league. And so that's why despite the

1600
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: fact that I like that. From a Bills perspective, keep

1601
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 2: the Bills roster strong. I think from an NFLPA perspective,

1602
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't think something like that would ever fly.

1603
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: And on the drops point, it's so good that we

1604
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 3: got this question because during it's kind of funny now

1605
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 3: that the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

1606
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: I never lead the league in drops the Chiefs.

1607
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: The Chiefs had the most drops, but Josh Allen actually

1608
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 3: had a higher drop rate. Okay, six point nine percent

1609
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: of his throws were dropped. Patrick Mahomes was way down

1610
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 3: the list at thirteenth at six point three percent. But

1611
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: pre everything that went well for the Chiefs in the

1612
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: playoffs and obviously winning back to back Super Bowls, when

1613
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 3: the Chiefs the defense was really carrying that team and

1614
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: Mahomes and the offense was not playing to its normal standard, it.

1615
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 4: Was, oh, look at all the drops, the drops, the drops.

1616
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: You didn't really hear that much with Josh Allen, when

1617
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 3: in reality, Josh Allen was seeing his passes dropped at

1618
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: a higher rate than Patrick Mahomes last year.

1619
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1620
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: Interesting, gotta take a break here, but more of your

1621
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back. We'll lead off with

1622
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: Mark and West Seneca when we return here on an

1623
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Speaker 2: obl Fan Friday mail Bag edition, it's One Bill's Live,

1624
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

1625
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Chris Trapasso

1626
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: with you and can I get right back to the phones.

1627
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: Here On an obl Fan Friday mail Bag, we go

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: to Mark in West Seneca, Nex. What's up?

1629
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 15: Mark?

1630
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 14: Hey, can you hear me?

1631
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Ken, Okay, It's.

1632
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 14: Good to hear you. So, I haven't talked to you

1633
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 14: in a while. I was always the Andy Isabella, you know,

1634
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 14: a backer, you know, going back and haven't called us

1635
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 14: in a while. But I'm just looking forward to what

1636
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,919
Speaker 14: the Bills have done. And I think going from Dorsey

1637
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 14: to Brady, it just gave us such an influx of

1638
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 14: a new type of offense that we're going to have.

1639
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 6: Uh.

1640
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 14: You know, Brandon Bean did a very smart thing.

1641
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 7: You know.

1642
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 14: Sean McDermott, Yes, he's a defensive, uh, you know type

1643
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 14: of coach. He will bring that defense. But I think

1644
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 14: Josh Allen is going to blossom even more with the

1645
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 14: additions of who he brought. And you know, if somebody

1646
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 14: like Chase Claypool can step up to the uh to

1647
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 14: the podium. I just think they're gonna tear it up.

1648
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 14: They're they're gonna be good man. I think I'm gonna

1649
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 14: see in about last fifty years. I'll leave it at that.

1650
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Mark is eternally optimistic. Hope Spring's

1651
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: eternal here for Mark and West Seneca. All right. I mean, look,

1652
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: I Chase Claypool was an interesting signing. It kind of

1653
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: follows along the line of some of their recent signings

1654
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: at receiver, tall, speed, yeah, height and weight. You're right,

1655
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 2: I know that some of his last couple of stops

1656
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: have not been very fruitful for him. And Steve I thought,

1657
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 2: had an interesting description of the Chase Claypool signing in

1658
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 2: his estimation. This signing is a personality test for Chase Claypool.

1659
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: Do you want to put the time in to make

1660
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 2: yourself a contributing factor on this roster. It did not

1661
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: happen in Miami. Granted it was half a season. It's

1662
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: hard to join a team mid season and fact be

1663
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: a factor, especially when there aren't injuries at the position

1664
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: you're filling. And that was not the case. And it

1665
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 2: didn't happen in Chicago. After he got traded by Pittsburgh

1666
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 2: to Chicago. So I think he's got to realize there

1667
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: aren't too many kicks at the cat that he's got

1668
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: left at this level. And the only reason he's got

1669
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: this many chances is because he is a heightweight, speed athlete.

1670
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 6: Yep.

1671
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 4: So this this could be.

1672
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: The last stop and the last real chance he's gonna

1673
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: get to be on a fifty three man roster short

1674
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 2: of some major rash of injuries for some team that's

1675
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: just so out now desperate for talent that they'll sign

1676
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,839
Speaker 2: him just to play for three or four weeks.

1677
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: And to that point he lands here with Joe Brady

1678
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 3: and Josh Allen, I think the rest of the NFL

1679
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 3: will say, well, if you couldn't make it with Josh.

1680
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 4: Allen, then I don't know if you can make it

1681
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 4: in this league.

1682
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: But six four two thirty eight, four four to two speed,

1683
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 3: forty and a half inch vertical, he's built in a lab.

1684
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: And to Steve's point that it's a personality test. Right

1685
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: when this signing happened, I tweeted, that is really fascinating.

1686
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: A lot of the responses I got were, Oh, he's

1687
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 3: a head case, he's diva all the things that transpired

1688
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, and in my tweet, I just tweeted all

1689
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 3: of his measurables and to all those people that responded

1690
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 3: to me, I was like, you guys are making my

1691
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: point that if he can actually be in this locker

1692
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: room and the Bills are always talking about culture, and

1693
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: sure there's some new faces, there's more than there have been.

1694
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: But if they believe, like the Bill's locker room culture

1695
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 3: can get the most out of someone like him, then

1696
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 3: they definitely got a steal in May in free agency

1697
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 3: because everything physically that you want from a wide receiver

1698
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: a bigger body, Chase Claypool has that.

1699
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing that I did was I put

1700
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: his career statistics alongside a fellow draft class made at

1701
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 2: the same position. He was within three hundred yards of

1702
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: that other player. He had six more receptions than that player.

1703
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 2: His receiving average was about three to four yards lower

1704
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 2: than that other player, and his touchdowns were half of

1705
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 2: that other player. I mean, he was thirteen. That player

1706
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 2: had twenty seven, but he was within three hundred yards

1707
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: rear receiving yards and he was within six catches. He

1708
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 2: had six more receptions than another player that other player.

1709
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 5: Was Gabe Davis.

1710
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, twenty and Gabe.

1711
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: Davis played his entire career with Josh Allen.

1712
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 4: Not the difference.

1713
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool played the last two years with a fading

1714
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger, a year with Kenny Pickett justin fields in

1715
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: his second year, and then Tua, but didn't get on

1716
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: the field. He was on the field more for special

1717
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: teams than he was for offense in Miami. Six more receptions,

1718
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: about three hundred fewer receiving yards, lower receiving average, half

1719
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: the number of touchdowns. I think it really speaks sometimes

1720
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: to circumstance landing spot, especially at the receiver position, where

1721
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: you are wholly dependent on just about everybody else on

1722
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball. You're dependent on the

1723
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: offensive line for protection, You're dependent on the quarterback for

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01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: decision making and trust.

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01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah totally and what so I was trying to think

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: who that could be, and I was maybe leaning toward

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01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 3: Gabe Davis, but I wouldn't have guessed that the numbers

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01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: are that close. That's pretty incredible to me as a

1729
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 3: draft guide. Speaks to a lot of times just physical

1730
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: traits just went out and what my biggest theory on

1731
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 3: Gabe Davis or I guess observation now that the Gabe

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01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 3: Davis era in Buffalo has done, he was at his

1733
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: best and maybe he had a season where it was

1734
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 3: a little bit more productive later. He was at his best,

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01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 3: I thought in his rookie and second seasons when he

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01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 3: was the true number four, when he was the number

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01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 3: four behind obviously Stefon Diggs, John Brown, Cole Beasley, and

1738
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: it was we're not asking you to separate underneath at

1739
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 3: the intermediate level. We're not asking you to be this

1740
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel after the catch guy. Run down the field,

1741
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: make back shoulders, make great catches over your shoulder down

1742
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 3: the field on post routes, on go routes. That's where

1743
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: Chase Claypool has excelled and did excel early in his career.

1744
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 3: So there is I mean, certainly there's other players well

1745
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 3: in front of him on the depth chart, but you

1746
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: spoke to it, how many news there's only Khalil Shakir

1747
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 3: being the only one who's caught a pass from Josh Allen.

1748
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 3: There's an opportunity for him to kind of slide into

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01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 3: that Gabe Davis role as the wide receiver four or five.

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01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: And now you're looking at Claypool Shorter, maybe to a

1751
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: certain extent, Coleman, because you could argue that Kincaid, Samuel

1752
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: and Shakir are ahead of him on the depth chart

1753
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,839
Speaker 2: walking in the door. So you've got Claypool Shorter, Coleman,

1754
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 2: and then Mac Collins, like four guys all over six,

1755
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: two big dudes, three of them with basketball backgrounds and

1756
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: all that better show of willingness to block in the

1757
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: run game.

1758
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: And you mentioned earlier about the Bills just trying to

1759
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 3: throw out of bodies at the linebacker spots. They're doing it,

1760
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 3: They're doing it at wide receiver and saying, look, you guys,

1761
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 3: if you don't look at your names and you look

1762
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: at your measurables, you guys are all pretty similar. Can

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01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 3: one or maybe two of you become that just contested

1764
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 3: catch rebounder down the field to catch twe physical presence

1765
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: block in the run game when they've certainly praised Gabe

1766
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: Davis for that ability. If you have four, chances are

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01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 3: at least one of them will ultimately, especially with Josh Allen,

1768
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: ultimately hit.

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 4: So I like the way that they've approached it.

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01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: Ideally, two, because maybe one is your six, you know,

1771
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: your receiver six, or maybe one is your receiver five.

1772
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: But ideally one of these guys is your receiver four.

1773
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: Now Coleman, because of the cachet, is the odds on favorite.

1774
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: But then after that, who's your five, who's your six,

1775
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: who's not even on the roster. So that to me,

1776
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: this is the best part of the receiver competition for sure.

1777
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: That will ensue a training camp because all the four

1778
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: of those guys are similar types. Some have a little

1779
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: bit better physical measurables in terms of speed. You know,

1780
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: Claypool obviously because we talked about shorter as a build

1781
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: up speed guy, Coleman plays faster than he times. And Hollins,

1782
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, he just does it.

1783
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 4: He's done it in the NFL. Yes, a little bit

1784
01:24:58,640 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: more proven.

1785
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a real interesting cross section there of players

1786
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: that I think on the field walking out onto the

1787
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: field look the same. Now, who's going to outperform the

1788
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: other three? Because there's four guys there, and there may

1789
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: only be two roles tops at that position for that

1790
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: kind of player, and who knows, like maybe they want

1791
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Matt Collins because he's a veteran presence in the room

1792
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 2: where they really don't have that anymore. Maybe Samuel could

1793
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: be that too, but coach mcdermot's a guy that likes

1794
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: leaders in every position room and Diggs is gone, Davis

1795
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: is gone. Those were the two captains at the position,

1796
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 2: So I think that helps Hollins case. Maybe Samuel can

1797
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: be that too.

1798
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: But that's a very interesting group too, because Gabe Davis,

1799
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: even when he was the wide receiver for it, like

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: six one six ' two a little over two hundred pounds,

1801
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 3: was like the biggest receiver on the team. I think

1802
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 3: they want to upgrade from Gabe Davis just skill wise,

1803
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 3: production wise, and maybe they literally want to upgrade size

1804
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 3: wise and say we loved what we saw and the ability,

1805
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: like you're saying as a blocker at Gabe Davis at

1806
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 3: six two two ten, how about six four two thirty

1807
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 3: like Justin Shorter or Matt Collins, Chase Claypool six four

1808
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: two thirty eight, that's just like the size of Dalton

1809
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 3: Kincaid and have that ability to really move people on

1810
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 3: those outside runs where we see James Cook bend the

1811
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 3: corner and hit you know, what looks like a ten

1812
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 3: yard run turns into a forty yard run because of

1813
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:32,919
Speaker 3: a key block on the outside.

1814
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta take a break here, but when we come back,

1815
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: a couple of more questions out of the mail bag.

1816
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: We'll try to answer those before our time is up.

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Speaker 2: Here on a Friday on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: Colida of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, Right, I got

1819
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: a few minutes to bang out a couple of questions

1820
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: from the mail bag. Ed asks what roster depth needs

1821
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: work prior to training camp, and I guess he means

1822
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: in terms of addressing the depth. And we talked about

1823
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: outside corner already, definitely, because you only have four right

1824
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: now and you want to go to camp with at

1825
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: least six. So those two undrafted kids to Corey Couch

1826
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: and the kid from Western Michigan, Uh lovely? Yeah, can

1827
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: I lovely? I got to slow down and say it

1828
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: to make sure I pronounce it correctly. Those kids are

1829
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: going to have an opportunity short of a veteran coming in.

1830
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: But I would say outside corner. Any other positions in safety, yeah,

1831
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: maybe one more guy there, right, Like you've got Damar

1832
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: Hamlin and Cam Lewis along with the rookie Cole Bishop

1833
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: behind the projected starters. Taylor Rap, you know, and Edwards,

1834
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: so yeah, probably another guy there. I don't know if

1835
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 2: there's anyone that I think they're okay at linebacker now

1836
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: for sure, draft Ulefotio and Moro and Deon Jones coming

1837
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: in as a free a, so I think they're okay there.

1838
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: Offense line, they've hit running back, they've hit in the

1839
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: draft and as an undrafted frank or junior, so I

1840
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 2: think they have numbers there. So and their roster right

1841
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: now is at eighty nine, so they don't even have

1842
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: really a lot of room. We were saying at the

1843
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 2: top of the show, maybe one of these tryout kids

1844
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: gets signed and that makes it ninety, you know, So

1845
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 2: we'll have to see from Mark. Will the Bills face

1846
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: less too high safeties now that they appear to be

1847
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty run pass team. We touched on

1848
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: that earlier also, And yeah, I mean we're we're kind

1849
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: of intrigued as to what all this big beef type

1850
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: of offensive linemen we've seen come in the door from

1851
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: guard to guard. I mean, they still have athletes to tackle,

1852
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: but guard to guard, they are beefing up like big dudes.

1853
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: And I think the last six games of the regular

1854
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: season then into the playoffs. The fact that the Bills

1855
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: did run it so well, there's the Big James Cook game,

1856
01:28:58,479 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: when the.

1857
01:28:58,760 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 4: Blowout of the Cowboys.

1858
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: That's film that defensive coordinators are watching and saying, yeah,

1859
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 3: this Bills team in September might come out and just

1860
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: run it down our throats. So we can't be in

1861
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: that two high safety shell quite as much, or if.

1862
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: They are, maybe the Bills run the tar out of

1863
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: it to pull them out of it, yes, to then

1864
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 2: give some opportunities if they're fortunate enough to get single

1865
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: high safety looks. It is a persistent problem. I mean,

1866
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: split safeties was clearly the most popular alignment.

1867
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 4: Against cross the league. Oh yeah that too. Yeah, but

1868
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 4: against me, Josh.

1869
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 2: For guys like Mahomes, Josh Rogers like, split safety was

1870
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 2: the go to. Ironically, the Bills played more split safety

1871
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: themselves defensively than any team in the league. Over fifty

1872
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 2: six percent of their snaps they played that way, and

1873
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see if they still do that

1874
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: with a completely new safety lineup. Chris, thanks for helping

1875
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 2: us today. That is all for us here on a Friday.

1876
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: Enjoy your Mother's Day weekend. Happy Mother's Day. Everybody will

1877
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 2: see on Monday,