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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: We're going to continue to react to the Michigan primary

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Speaker 2: results as well as everything surrounding the awful Lacol and

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Speaker 2: Riley situation. We've got audio that you're going to want

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Speaker 2: to hear related to that. But breaking news out there,

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Speaker 2: eighty two year old Mitch McConnell has just come out

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Speaker 2: and announced that he is no longer going to be

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Speaker 2: the Senate Majority leader after the twenty twenty four elections. Here,

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Speaker 2: let's listen to him make that comment, then we'll react

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, I have helped preserve the ideals so strongly lee

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Speaker 3: that day arrived today. My goals when I was narrowly

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Speaker 3: elected to the Senate back in nineteen eighty four were

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Speaker 3: fairly modest. Do good job for the people of Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Invent something that by doing so, they might rehire me

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Speaker 3: for a second term.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 3: That was the plan. If you would have told me

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Speaker 3: forty years later that I would stand before you as

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Speaker 3: the longest serving Senate leader in American history, factly I

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Speaker 3: would have thought you'd lost your mind. I have the

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Speaker 3: honor of representing Kentucky in the Senate longer than anyone

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Speaker 3: else in our state history. I just never could have imagined,

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Speaker 3: never could have imagined that happening when I arrived here

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four, at forty two. I'm filled with

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Speaker 3: heartfelt gratitude and humility with the opportunity. But now it's

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, I'm now eighty two. As Ecclesiastesis with us,

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Speaker 3: to everything, there is a season and a time, to

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Speaker 3: every purpose under Heaven. To serve Kentucky in the Senate

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Speaker 3: has been the honor of my life. To lead my

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Speaker 3: Republican colleagues has been the highest privilege. But one of

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Speaker 3: life's most underappreciated talents is to know when it's time

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Speaker 3: to move on to life's next chapter. So I stand

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Speaker 3: before you today, mister President, and my colleagues to say

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Speaker 3: this will be my last term as Republican leader of

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Speaker 3: the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Okaywhere I think we can cut that off. Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 2: historic run now buck. My immediate thought on this is

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Speaker 2: not only about Mitch McConnell, which we can react to,

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Speaker 2: and this is going to set off major scramble in

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Speaker 2: the Senate because Republicans are favored to take back control

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Speaker 2: of the Senate, so the Senate majority post. And I

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Speaker 2: believe it was Rick Scott, Senator from Florida, who was

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Speaker 2: the primary challenger of Mitch McConnell in the last go around.

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Speaker 2: He's the same age as Joe Biden, and as I'm

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Speaker 2: listening to him talk about how there's a time and

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Speaker 2: a season for everything, I think this is going to

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Speaker 2: raise pressure on Joe Biden on some level because Mitch

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Speaker 2: McConnell had that Frozen in the Headlights clip that we

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Speaker 2: played I don't know, probably what four or five months

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Speaker 2: ago buck where he just seemed to have an inability

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Speaker 2: to continue to communicate. And he's the same age. He's

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Speaker 2: had health conditions, he's fallen down, he had a concussion

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Speaker 2: that we know of all of these things. I think

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Speaker 2: this is going to make a lot of people happy,

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Speaker 2: but also I think it calls into question older people

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Speaker 2: who are running for reelection.

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Speaker 4: When you're talking about Mitch McConnell and his legacy, which

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Speaker 4: will certainly be something that comes up in the months

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Speaker 4: ahead as he steps out. First of all, the fact

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Speaker 4: that this guy is has been in the Senate since

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Speaker 4: I was truly in diapers is amazing. It's a long

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Speaker 4: time to have any job. Everybody'd be United States senator.

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Speaker 4: So since the early eighties, Mitch McConnell has been a

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Speaker 4: United States Senator. Joe Biden also, as you pointed out,

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Speaker 4: about the same duration in the Senator that you have

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Speaker 4: to add in his years as Vice President. Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have a lot of interesting discussions now. I

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Speaker 4: think about who will be the Senate majority Senate minority leader,

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Speaker 4: depending for Republicans, some ideas will come to mind right

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Speaker 4: away for people, and then beyond that on things like Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: I think the Republican base finds Mitch to be a

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Speaker 4: Union party and on the border. You know, a Union

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Speaker 4: He's kind of an open borders guy, big with the

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Speaker 4: donor class. On judges, under Trump, he was a lean,

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Speaker 4: mean judge confirmation, judicial confirmation machine. And if you're looking

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Speaker 4: at the most enduring legacies of Donald Trump's first term,

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Speaker 4: it's not just the Supreme Court justices, it's the federal

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Speaker 4: judges that were interspersed throughout the system, and Mitch, Mitch

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Speaker 4: gets an a plus on the judge machinery. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: judicial confirmation machinery. I should say a lot of other stuff.

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Speaker 4: People can, you know, they can debate and argue it.

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Speaker 4: But I think in terms of whether Clay you know,

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Speaker 4: Trump and Biden are already close.

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Speaker 1: Into the same age.

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Speaker 4: So that's I don't know if Mitch mcconnell' stepping down

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Speaker 4: is going to affect anyone's perception one way or the other.

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Speaker 4: It certainly could be used as another data point. But

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Speaker 4: I've been saying this all along. Biden doesn't care. People

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Speaker 4: need to stop thinking that Joe Biden is somehow ethical

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Speaker 4: or concerned about the country. Joe Biden is concerned about

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden first and foremost, and he likes being powerful

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Speaker 4: and in charge, or at least the perception that he

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Speaker 4: is in charge. I think that's true.

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Speaker 2: I do think on the margins, when old people step down,

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Speaker 2: it makes them look around at the other old people

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Speaker 2: and say, why aren't they doing the same. So I

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Speaker 2: think on the margins, look, they're forty forty five percent

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Speaker 2: of people are going to show up and vote for

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden because of the team that he plays for,

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Speaker 2: regardless of whether he's able to do it. You mentioned Buck,

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Speaker 2: something that I do think is important related to Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 2: which is the judges. The older I get, the more

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Speaker 2: I recognize how fast four years is or how fast

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Speaker 2: eight years is. Lifetime appointment for many of these judges

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Speaker 2: is far more significant than anything that can happen in

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Speaker 2: any president's term to a large extent, because there's a

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Speaker 2: limit to how much you can accomplish in eight years,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Or four years.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, so getting lifetime tenure for Supreme Court justices three

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Speaker 2: of them, as Trump did during his first term, that's

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Speaker 2: generational change. Even if you are a highly successful president,

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Speaker 2: the older you get, the faster eight years goes by.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you are starting to feel this a little

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Speaker 2: bit more, Buck, now that you're in your forties, and

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Speaker 2: I imagine some of you out there that are older

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Speaker 2: than us. It used to feel like the president was

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Speaker 2: in office to me forever. You know, when you're ten

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Speaker 2: or twelve, eight years might as well be, you know,

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Speaker 2: eighty years. But now I turn around in four years,

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Speaker 2: it feels like a snip passed and almost the snap

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Speaker 2: of your fingers. And so you get this sense of

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Speaker 2: even if you have a president that president's power is limited.

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Speaker 2: A judge for lifetime tenure is a really big deal,

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Speaker 2: and I do think Mitch McConnell thought longer term in

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Speaker 2: that respect.

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Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell, anybody out there want to weigh in on

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Speaker 4: the legacy thereof also have to return.

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Speaker 1: You have something on like this.

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Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna mention on Mitch McConnell. The

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Speaker 2: other thing we need to think about Kentucky. You re

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Speaker 2: elected Andy Basheer. Remember if Mitch McConnell health wise decides

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Speaker 2: to step down. Andy Basheer has said he's going to

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Speaker 2: a point try to appoint a Democrat. And I tried

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Speaker 2: to make a big deal out of this we did

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Speaker 2: on this show. In the governor's race, Mitch McConnell is

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Speaker 2: stepping down as majority leader. That has to be somewhat

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Speaker 2: health related. I'm sorry. If he were to be unable

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Speaker 2: to continue his term, you've got a Democrat governor, and

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Speaker 2: people out there could say, oh, why does that matter?

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Speaker 1: You could end up in US.

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Speaker 2: It's not crazy at all to think that the Senate

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Speaker 2: could be fifty one forty nine. Joe Biden could find

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Speaker 2: his way back into office, mcconnall could not be able

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Speaker 2: to serve, and Kentucky puts in a Democrat, and then

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is the tie breaker again and they take

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Speaker 2: back control of the Senate.

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Speaker 4: We saw it as very possible with the cults of

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Speaker 4: how she was, you know, fit as a fiddle, and

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Speaker 4: She's like a little decrepit old lady when they were

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Speaker 4: But clearly, you know, didn't have long left. And they

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Speaker 4: replace that Supreme Court seat the way that they wanted to.

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Speaker 4: So these things do matter and have a major effect

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Speaker 4: all goes. But yeah, we also superturned Clay to the

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Speaker 4: We had more from the mayor, I mean the mayor

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Speaker 1: No doubt, very serious aspects there.

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Speaker 1: Use my name, Clay.

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Speaker 4: We addressed in the last hour the Michigan results for

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Speaker 1: Later on the program.

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Speaker 1: At the University of Georgia and.

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Speaker 5: We know many many of the elements, many of the elements.

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Speaker 4: We know what sanctuary are.

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Speaker 2: They're not happy in that press conference in the audience there, Clay.

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Speaker 2: But allowing eight million illegals to pour into the country

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Speaker 2: And for him to stand up there buck and try

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Speaker 4: Charlottesville A Donald Trump has a habit of marrying foreign

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to use their resources to be helpful,

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Speaker 4: unhelpful when it comes to federal immigration law. And I

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think people just get so fed

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Speaker 4: of the Democrat media was the real threat here is Islamophobia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, well, I don't know, the real threat

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Speaker 4: Ten people that just got murdered by some you know,

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Speaker 4: And every time when some young girl gets murdered by

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Speaker 4: Let's remember we're a nation of immigrants. Here, It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: Also, they try to say, well, statistically, immigrants don't compete,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: There should be a crime rate of illegal immigrants preying

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Speaker 1: It should be zero.

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Speaker 2: So saying well, they commit violent crime at lower rates

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Speaker 4: And all these people who are always lobbying in favor

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Speaker 4: If there's no reason to enforce the law against legals

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Speaker 4: Did you see recently I think it was the Associated

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Speaker 6: Know, come on, stop the immigrants that are here illegally.

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Speaker 6: We should let them stay, they'll do the jobs. Americans

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Speaker 6: want to all this stuff. Well, then why aren't they

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Speaker 2: I agree with all that, and we should take some calls,

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Speaker 4: Another one league illegal El Salvadoran migrant accused of killing

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Speaker 4: Buck and I have talked about it a great deal.

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Speaker 4: What stood out to you, as someone who knows the politics,

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Speaker 4: knows the nuance of Michigan, of the data from the

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Speaker 4: Republican and the Democrat primaries. What's the story. What should

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Speaker 4: we be thinking basically eight months from election day.

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Speaker 7: Well, on the Republican side, some key counties went big

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Speaker 7: for Trump, and that was something that we didn't see

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty two. Macomb County came out big for Trump.

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Speaker 7: We saw Oakland County coming out. They're split with Democrats

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Speaker 7: and Republicans, but still big for Trump. It looks like

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Speaker 7: a lot of those voters who didn't come out in

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty two are back, They're engaged. We had good

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Speaker 7: numbers for a primary. But on the Democrat side, I

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Speaker 7: think the most interesting thing that we saw was, of

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Speaker 7: course the uncommitted voters. We know that the uncommitted campaign

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Speaker 7: was being put on by Rashida Tale and her sister.

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Speaker 7: They were very actively telling people not to vote for

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden. What I don't think that Gretchen Whitmer and

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden anticipated was the impact that would have on

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Speaker 7: college campuses.

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Speaker 8: So that to me is very interesting.

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Speaker 7: They've created this narrative on college campuses, and now how

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Speaker 7: are they going to pull that back?

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Speaker 8: If they don't have something else to hook.

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Speaker 7: Those young people in with, they may have a problem

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Speaker 7: on college campuses in Michigan.

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Speaker 8: Come November.

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Speaker 4: Hey, tutor Buck here, thanks for being with us. Can

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Speaker 4: you give us something of a battlefield overview for how

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Speaker 4: it looks going into the twenty twenty four election in

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Speaker 4: Michigan when you are looking at things like party registration,

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Speaker 4: early vote turnout mechanisms. I mean, just give us a

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Speaker 4: sense of how the team stack up right now, GOP

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Speaker 4: versus Democrat in Michigan at this point in time.

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Speaker 7: Well, obviously, I mean if you're listening, if you're paying

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Speaker 7: attention at all to what's happening in Michigan. We have

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Speaker 7: had some problems our party here in the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 7: Just yesterday a judge actually ruled on that because we

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Speaker 7: had a party chair who was overthrown by delegates some

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Speaker 7: delegates in January, and then the other delegates that were

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Speaker 7: supporting that party chair said no, she wasn't overthrown.

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Speaker 8: This was at a legal meeting. Then the other.

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Speaker 7: Side actually voted in a new chair, and so for

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Speaker 7: a while we actually had two chairs, and it was

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Speaker 7: very confusing because there is a caucus this weekend. So

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Speaker 7: for people who also don't understand in Michigan, we normally

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Speaker 7: have a primary, but this year we're having a primary

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Speaker 7: and a caucus because the Democrats moved the primary up.

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Speaker 7: The RNC agreed that we could have a primary, give

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Speaker 7: out some delegates primary day, a caucus will have the

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Speaker 7: rest of the delegates will be awarded to the presidential candidate. However,

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Speaker 7: we were having one in Detroit, and now the new

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Speaker 7: chair is having one in Grun Rapids. So there was

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Speaker 7: a concern, oh gosh, we're going to have half the

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Speaker 7: delegates in Detroit half of them in Grun Rapids. Yesterday

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Speaker 7: a judge ruled on that and said no, the new

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Speaker 7: chair stays. Old chair has to give up control, has

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Speaker 7: to give all the social media back. So that is

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Speaker 7: obviously still a division in the state. Still, those delegates

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Speaker 7: that we're supporting the old chair are unhappy. We need

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Speaker 7: to bring our party back together. Democrats think they have

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Speaker 7: an advantage there. They don't have that issue. They have

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Speaker 7: an organized party, They have a good ground game, they

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Speaker 7: have a lot of grassroots activists, they have good control

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Speaker 7: on college campuses. They are definitely at this point organized well.

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Speaker 8: Republicans will get there though.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if you were predicting right now, do you

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Speaker 2: think that if the election had been last yesterday, that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump would beat Joe Biden in Michigan.

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Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, And I think there are people out there

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Speaker 7: right now who are saying, no, this Arab American vote

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Speaker 7: in Michigan is not that important, but it absolutely is

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Speaker 7: past They've been the ones that are like, this is

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Speaker 7: what pushed us over, and this is why we want

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Speaker 7: And there is truly a divide there. It's not to

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Speaker 7: be taken lightly, It's not to be celebrated or not

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Speaker 7: taken seriously. It is a true divide in the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 7: But like I said, that goes beyond just the Arab

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Speaker 7: Americans in the state of Michigan. You now have this

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Speaker 7: situation on university campuses, so Michigan State, University of Michigan.

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Speaker 7: They don't know how to bring those voters back, and

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Speaker 7: they don't know how to control Rashida to leave because

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Speaker 7: having Rashida to leave, who is a well respected voice

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Speaker 7: in the state of Michigan. In fact, there was a

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Speaker 7: time when Gretchen Whitmer was out there campaigning with her

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Speaker 7: and saying what an amazing person Rashida to Leave is.

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Speaker 7: Now she's got her speaking against her. This is a

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Speaker 7: real problem for them because people will follow Rashida. I

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Speaker 7: don't suspect that Rashida is going to suddenly be like,

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Speaker 7: you know what, We're going to give this whole ceasefire

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Speaker 7: thing up for the gen.

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Speaker 8: I think she's gonna stick with it.

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Speaker 7: I don't think Joe Biden can actually give into the

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Speaker 7: mob here and say he's going to throw away an

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Speaker 7: ally in the Middle East, our only.

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Speaker 8: Ally in the Middle East.

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Speaker 7: He's not going to, Hopefully, I wouldn't think that he

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Speaker 7: would make the mistake of going against the policy with

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Speaker 7: Israel right now. So it's a very sticky wicket for Democrats,

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Speaker 7: and I think that is where Donald Trump has an advantage.

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Speaker 7: But also with auto workers because they've seen their jobs leaving.

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Speaker 7: They hear Donald Trump coming in and saying I'm going

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Speaker 7: to bring your jobs back.

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Speaker 8: They know what happened in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 7: If you've talked to people, they'll tell you we moved

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Speaker 7: out of the state when Donald Trump was elected. We

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Speaker 7: moved back in and we thrived in the auto industry.

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Speaker 7: But we're afraid because right now all of these policies

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Speaker 7: that Joe Biden has and Gritchen Whitmer has are anti automotive.

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Speaker 7: They're pro ev that's not the future for automotive.

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Speaker 8: You see that.

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Speaker 7: Ford has already come out and said this is not

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Speaker 7: really great for us. We've seen people across the state

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Speaker 7: of Michigan their cars are dying in the winter.

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Speaker 8: This is not a good look.

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Speaker 7: Even Sean Fame came out and said, he's the president

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Speaker 7: of the UAW We're going to take our members' money

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Speaker 7: and endorse Joe Biden, but we're going to actually see

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Speaker 7: our members go out and vote for someone else. Well,

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Speaker 7: who else are they going to vote for? They're going

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Speaker 7: to vote for Donald Trump. So absolutely, I believe if

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Speaker 7: the general election was run yesterday in the state of Michigan,

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump would have prevailed. There would have been no

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Speaker 7: Nikki Haley in the race. Those votes would have gotten

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Speaker 7: him and Joe Biden would have had a poor showing.

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Speaker 1: Tudor.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Oakland County, and I want to just ask you,

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Speaker 2: because you know the state well. My wife born and

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Speaker 2: raised basically in Oakland County. We got married in Birmingham.

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Speaker 2: It's north of Detroit, which is Wayne County. Is Oakland

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Speaker 2: County in your mind the number one bell Weather County.

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Speaker 2: If you had to pick one to look at and

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Speaker 2: try to assess how Trump Biden is looking going forward.

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Speaker 2: In other words, if you we know, as you move

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Speaker 2: further north in Michigan, it gets redder. But Oakland County,

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Speaker 2: highly educated, suburban county, a lot of white population, a

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Speaker 2: lot of Jewish, some diversity, also Arab voters. Is that

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Speaker 2: the number one county you would look to determine how

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Speaker 2: this election is going to go.

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Speaker 8: Well, you're gonna watch two.

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Speaker 7: Actually you're gonna watch Oakland, which is a suburb of

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Speaker 7: Detroit area kind of, and you're gonna watch Kent, which

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Speaker 7: is Grand Rapids. So say a similar situation. You've got

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Speaker 7: to watch both sides of the state. If you look

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Speaker 7: at Oakland County, it's a very interesting situation that we're

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Speaker 7: seeing in Oakland County right now. And that's going to

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Speaker 7: be hard for Democrats because they came in and took

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Speaker 7: over Oakland County with the marijuana vote, and then they

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Speaker 7: came over and they took over Oakland County with the

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Speaker 7: abortion vote.

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Speaker 8: But those two.

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Speaker 7: Things are now enshrined in law, so now they don't

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Speaker 7: have those they're trying to pull back abortion and say,

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Speaker 7: oh no, actually it could still be an issue they're

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Speaker 7: not going to be able to win on that. It

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Speaker 7: is fully protected in the state of Michigan. And we

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Speaker 7: all know that Republicans are going to have to come

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Speaker 7: out and say, hey, look, this is not going to

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Speaker 7: be there's not going to be something happen because there's

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Speaker 7: not going to be sixty Senators that are going to say, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 7: we're going to put a ban in place on abortion.

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Speaker 7: Abortion is safe in the state of Michigan. Now, Democrats

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Speaker 7: have a problem with both Oakland and Kent because they

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Speaker 7: could lose women. Women are the ones that are out

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Speaker 7: there packing the lunches every day. Women are the ones

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Speaker 7: driving kids to school and going off to work. They're

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Speaker 7: getting gas. They're getting more gas than their husbands, oftentimes

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Speaker 7: because they're then also transporting them back and forth in sports.

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Speaker 7: They're also buying the groceries, and they're seeing a massive increase.

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Speaker 7: I had a woman just before Christmas say to me,

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Speaker 7: who was not a Republican by the way, say to me,

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Speaker 7: I can tell it's almost election time, and she was

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Speaker 7: sheepish about it. I said, what do you mean, and

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Speaker 7: she said, I can't afford the Christmas gifts. I could

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Speaker 7: afford last year, and I think it's time for a

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Speaker 7: new president. That is a shocking admission from a woman

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Speaker 7: in Michigan who is not a Republican. That's going to

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Speaker 7: change the game on the ground here.

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Speaker 4: Tudor, if you were to advise Donald Trump on how

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Speaker 4: to win back or win as many female voters as

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Speaker 4: possible in Michigan, which I'm sure would be applicable for

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Speaker 4: some of the other battleground states to what would you

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Speaker 4: tell them.

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Speaker 7: You have to tell these women that their communities are

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Speaker 7: going to be safe. We have seen too much violence

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Speaker 7: in Michigan communities, too many soft on crime prosecutors. We

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Speaker 7: have a situation in our capital city that is out

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Speaker 7: of control, and that is that can be directly linked

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Speaker 7: to the shooting that we saw on Michigan State's campus.

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Speaker 4: As you recall, there are there is the judgment from

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Speaker 4: I mean this is in the three hundreds of millions

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Speaker 4: we both agree two things. But there's more, and Clay,

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Speaker 4: you can take us through the what's next and what

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Speaker 4: do you think happens? But this tells us two things. One,

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Speaker 4: a You don't offer the court one hundred million unless

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Speaker 4: you're saying, look, this is all I got, right, So

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Speaker 4: he liquid That doesn't mean he's not worth billion, just means,

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Speaker 4: as we've discussed, he doesn't have eight hundred million dollars

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Speaker 4: billionaires don't do that, really, or at least not that

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Speaker 4: ask some But and then so he doesn't have more

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Speaker 4: court's not going to accept this.

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Speaker 1: So now what happens.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what I believe is likely happening here, and

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Speaker 2: this is and I don't have This is not somebody

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Speaker 2: filling me in on Donald Trump's financial situation. But this

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Speaker 2: squares with what I've been telling you guys, and what

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Speaker 2: Buck and I have been discussing for some time. Even

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Speaker 2: billionaires don't have four hundred million dollars sitting around in cash.

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Speaker 2: That's not the way billionaires roll, especially not billionaires with

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Speaker 2: large real estate portfolios. Usually what happens is a billionaire

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Speaker 2: will have a line of credit to live on, and

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Speaker 2: they don't have hundreds of millions of dollars sitting in

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Speaker 2: the bank accounts. The Scrooge McDuck idea where you have

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Speaker 2: just a big vault of gold coins would not be

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Speaker 2: an efficient way to grow your wealth. What I think

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Speaker 2: is happening here, Buck, is Trump might well have one

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in cash that he can cobble together.

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Speaker 2: That would not be a crazy amount for someone who's

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Speaker 2: worth three or four billion dollars, maybe bore who knows

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Speaker 2: exactly what they're worth. Uh, in your own mind, take

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Speaker 2: it outside of billions. Let's say you're worth one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. How many of you out there that are

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Speaker 2: worth one hundred thousand dollars might have three or four

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars in your checking.

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Speaker 1: Account at any given time.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the same scenario that I would put

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Speaker 2: into play here. Truth Social, though, Buck, this is where

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Speaker 2: I think this timing is coming in. Truth Social is

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Speaker 2: set to officially go public. I believe at the end

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Speaker 2: of March and staff you guys can look this up

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Speaker 2: and confirm that I'm right about this within the next

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Speaker 2: month or so. Donald Trump's steak in Truths, based on

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Speaker 2: the valuation of the spac that is connected to it,

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Speaker 2: is around four billion dollars. That is billion with a B.

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Speaker 2: It is actually very common for super wealthy people with

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Speaker 2: substantial stakes in companies to borrow money based on the

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Speaker 2: valuation of that stake. I think Trump offering one hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars is designed to buy time until truth Social

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Speaker 2: goes public and Trump, with four billion dollars in assets

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Speaker 2: there can go to a bank and say, hey, the

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Speaker 2: will you give me a line of credit of a

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Speaker 2: billion dollars or six hundred million dollars or whatever dollar

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Speaker 2: figure he wants, which he can then use to put

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Speaker 2: a bond down on these cases. But make no mistake

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Speaker 2: about it, this is designed to financially cripple Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: What they are trying to do to him is put

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Speaker 2: him in prison for the rest of his life and

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Speaker 2: bankrupt him. And this is the game plan. He's not

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Speaker 2: wrong when he lays all this out, regardless of what

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Speaker 2: your politics are, regardless if you're a diehard NICKI Haley person.

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Speaker 2: Right now, they are going after Donald Trump with every

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Speaker 2: financial lever they have and every criminal lever.

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Speaker 1: They have because of his politics.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing I bet if Trump could go

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Speaker 2: back in time, I bet he wishes that he had

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Speaker 2: moved his assets out of New York. And if you're

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Speaker 2: out there right now and you're saying I'm not a billionaire,

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Speaker 2: but you're trying to build wealth for your family, this

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Speaker 2: is why I say get out of blue cities, get

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Speaker 2: You're keeping yours in Florida.

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Speaker 4: The reality here is that Trump is going to lose

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Speaker 4: the request for the one hundred million to be enough.

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Speaker 4: And then even if this one judge were to say

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Speaker 4: panel of judges would have to hear it and agree,

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Speaker 4: and that will not happen. Right, So even if he

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Speaker 4: won this round, he will lose the second round. These

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Speaker 4: is like just think of it like Jack Smith in

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Speaker 4: judges robes. That's what he's going up against in New York.

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Speaker 4: And so I do think there's a very real possibility

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Speaker 4: here that you're going to see the beginnings of what

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Speaker 4: Letitia James has been threatening all along, which is the

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Speaker 4: beginning of asset forfeiture, asset seizure, where she's going to

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Speaker 4: start saying, all right, we're going to start filling the paperwork.

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Speaker 4: You know, Trump Tower is now going to be owned

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Speaker 4: by the State of New York. This is probably coming soon.

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Speaker 4: This is probably where this is going. And understand, even

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Speaker 4: if Trump were able to get someone, let's just say

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Speaker 4: a billionaire came along. Let's just say Clay decided to

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Speaker 4: holding out on us, and he can just write a

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Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty three million dollars check to bail

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Speaker 4: Trump out. That's just putting it up as collateral to

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Speaker 4: go in front of an appeals court in New York

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Speaker 4: and have them rule, and they're going to rule against him,

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Speaker 4: So one way or another, he's out four hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty three million dollars or someone's going to be or

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Speaker 4: they're going to start seizing his buildings and buildings in

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Speaker 4: a combination thereof. And I mean, what they're doing to him,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what this is so third world dictator

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Speaker 4: nonsense from the Biden and Democrat perspective. I know this

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Two and again, I think this is about buying time

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Speaker 2: trading at forty four dollars and eighty five cents a share.

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Speaker 2: They are merging that with Truth Social, which is Trump's company,

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Speaker 2: and Trump's steak in that new company which is supposed

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Speaker 2: to be merged and become a public, viable entity which

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00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: you or me or anybody else could buy stock in

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00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: is supposed to happen at the end of March. And

878
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: most rich people, and this is, for instance, how Elon

879
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: Musk bought Twitter. To a certain extent, you are allowed

880
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: to borrow money based on your stock valuation holding without

881
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: having to actually sell that stock because you don't want

882
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: to pay taxes on it. So let's say you were

883
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Speaker 2: a billionaire. A lot of times billionaires are tied up

884
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Speaker 2: in the individual stock class of a company, which is

885
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: how they got their money. But if you sold that stock,

886
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Speaker 2: you'd have to pay capital gains tax, you would owe

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Speaker 2: a substantial amount of tax liability. And so Goldman, Sachs,

888
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: Morgan Stanley, some big investment bank will give you a

889
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: line of credit based on the valuation of your stock.

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Speaker 2: I think that's how he's going to pay pay this appeal.

891
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: Buck is again his stake in this truth. Social is

892
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: potentially worth right now on the open stock market around

893
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: four billion dollars, and so he could take a tenth

894
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: of that valuation, get a loan and pay it off,

895
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: and that's less suspect than real estate because stock valuations

896
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: are predicated every single day.

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Speaker 1: Does that make s sense? Is that super complicated?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love your optimism that this is all

899
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Speaker 4: going to go and he'll have the money and he'll

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Speaker 4: be able to I mean maybe maybe.

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Speaker 2: If the true social thing happens, it's supposed to go

902
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: public at the end of March, then he would have

903
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Speaker 2: a big valuation. And this is how I do think

904
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Speaker 2: it's this is how.

905
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Speaker 4: Both sider shares. He'd probably have a lock up. He'd

906
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Speaker 4: probably have to get someone to buy those shares. What

907
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Speaker 4: are those shares worth? And the it would be a wone.

908
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Speaker 4: It would be a wone just based on the value

909
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Speaker 4: of the open play. Who's going to give him that loan?

910
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Speaker 4: It's like the surety bond who wants to get in

911
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: I think real estate.

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Speaker 2: But at least there is a tangible valuation of a stock,

913
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Speaker 2: so you can look at it every day and know

914
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: exactly what his stake is worth, unlike let's say Trump Tower,

915
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Speaker 2: which is constantly fluctuating in value depending on who the

916
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Speaker 2: buyer is, what the interest rates are, all these different

917
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: complicating factors a stock price. In theory, you can plug

918
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Speaker 2: it in and know the exact evaluation of a stake

919
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Speaker 2: every minute of every day, which it makes it a

920
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Speaker 2: little bit more reliable. Now to your point, this is

921
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: what I said on the Real estate. Do you want

922
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: to get involved with Trump? That's the challenge he's got,

923
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: because then they're going to go through your books and

924
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Speaker 2: try to bring.

925
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Speaker 1: You into the mix.

926
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Speaker 4: And we're getting we're getting there's a few steps here.

927
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: We're getting way down deep into the nitty gritty of

928
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: the true social and the spack or whatever it is

929
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: they're planning on doing to go public. You would have

930
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: shares in a lockup. What are shares in a lock

931
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: up for a year worth? And who wants to give

932
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: value against those shares?

933
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Speaker 5: You know?

934
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Speaker 4: Are they is that its truth social going to be

935
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Speaker 4: worth in a year?

936
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It depends that's Donald Trump win the elections for you.

938
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: And that's where you could get hit with a margin call.

939
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, this is where things you know, you're talking

940
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Speaker 4: to a lot of uncertainty with billions of dollars at stake.

941
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Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, Clay, just just save them

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Speaker 4: in you know, just step away, just do it. You

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Speaker 4: know you've your gambling picks have been excellent. Just make

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Speaker 4: it happen. All right, here we go. We'll take some

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