1 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber Prediction of iHeart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Anny Rees and I'm Lauren Bogle Bam, and today we 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about hot Toddies. Yes to 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: say it's a good word. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. As 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: always at these drink responsibly. Yes, yes, um, so I have. 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I've had a fair amount of experience with hot Toddies 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: doing this research. I've got like three recipes. I I 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: have to try this good Apparently, like red wine hot 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: chocolate was really popular a couple of years ago. Yeah, 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I missed that too, and I'd like, I'm like, okay, 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: well it's sure, let's just go let me try that. 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: Embark on a number of hot beverage adventures. Totally. Yes. Yes. 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: And there was like an interesting chicken soup one with 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: gin that I was like, hey, it sounded interesting to me. 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I could get in on this on this. 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes when I get really cold, I just drink chicken bras. 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh same same yeah yeah um. And one of my 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: first memories like of the hot toddy. The first time 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I heard it, I think was when I was in 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: middle school and my mom told me she used to 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: drink hot Toddies for minstrel pain when she was a kid. 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: And then she told me what that meant um, which 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: for her I think was like cider and whiskey. It 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: was definitely whiskey. And I was scandaloused, so scandalouzed drinking 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: as a youth. I love, I love how heck and 26 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: sweet like middle schoolish age Annie was about drinking. She 27 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: was like, no, that's bad, that's don't do that. That 28 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: is for grown ups only. You're gonna get in trouble. 29 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble by proxy. Yes, yes, And 30 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: my mom was I think she was asking, Yeah, she 31 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: was asking me if I wanted one, and I was 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: even more scarcinized. Mom again, Yeah, to this day, she'll 33 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: still offer me if I don't feel well, she'll offer 34 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: me a hot toddy, Okay, very very sweet. Yeah, yeah, 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I had experience with 36 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: hot toddies growing up at all. To be fair, I 37 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: grew up in South Florida, a place where we do 38 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: not need very many hot toddies. Um. But but yeah, 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I had one until maybe like ten 40 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: years ago or so something something ten ten fifteen years ago, 41 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: sometime after I had moved to Atlanta, and I mean 42 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I like them. Yeah, they're fine. It can be very nice, Yeah, 43 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: it can be. It can be very comforting. Um. I 44 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: like the taste of whiskey and the um the forwardness 45 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: of whiskey and a hot toddy can be a little 46 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: bit much for even me. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I 47 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: feel like every time I've made a hot toddy myself, 48 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: it's very light on the alcohol part. Yeah. Yeah, it's 49 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: a little touch, but I like but like a hot drink. Um. Uh. 50 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: January eleven is National Hot Toddy Day, so kind of timely. 51 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I guess. I always wonder. I always wonder, like which 52 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: marketing corporation lobbied home to get that kind of thing 53 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: on the books, or if someone just said it one 54 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: day and now all of the websites that the this 55 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: this day in history just report it. Anyway, Well, coming up, 56 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: getting ready to celebrate. Yeah, and you can see our 57 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: past episodes on butter beer and eggnog and I'm whiskey. 58 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, a lot of our alcohol episodes could be 59 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: uh part of this conversation, I guess oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yes, 60 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: which I guess brings us to our question. I guess 61 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: so the hot toddy. What is it? Well, hot toddy 62 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: is a beverage made from some kind of distilled alcohol, 63 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: diluted with water, flavored with stuff, and served hot. And 64 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm being vague here. I know I'm being vague because 65 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: there are a lot of variations. Um, So in a 66 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: very vague general way, it's like deluded hot alcohol. Mm 67 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: hmm yep, sounds delicious. It is. It is physically and 68 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: chemically warm, all right. The alcohol here is traditionally whiskey um. 69 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: And some of the more traditional flavorings include a tea, 70 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: often a black tea, sometimes a blend like an earl 71 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: gray uh, lemon juice and or lemon slices, honey uh, 72 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: and warm spices like cinnamon, cloves, star anie, nutmeg, ginger, 73 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: something along those lines. Um. But you can do it 74 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: however you want to um rum or brandy instead of 75 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: that whiskey. UM, add cider or juices like cranberry or grapefruit. UM, 76 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: use orange instead of lemon, maple syrup, or brown sugar 77 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: instead of honey, different kinds of herbal or fruity teas. 78 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: If you don't want the black tea in there. Uh, 79 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: The result can yeah, very pretty widely. Um at its 80 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: most straightforward, which is just alcohol, lemon sweetener and hot water. Um. Yeah, 81 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: a hot toddy will taste pretty powerfully of whatever booze 82 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: you have used. And it's not very sweet. Um, it's 83 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a like a hot unbubbly collins. 84 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Um. And so if you if if you're 85 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: going for something like that, choose an alcohol you enjoy, 86 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: because you are going to taste it. Um. The barely 87 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: flavors of like scotches and other whiskeys and dark RUMs 88 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: um do really nicely if you are into that sort 89 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: of thing. Um, but you can make them a whole 90 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: lot more gentle with sweeteners and the other flavorings. Uh 91 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: and uh. Note here about why alcohol is warming, and 92 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned it previously in our Moscow Mule episode. Yeah 93 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but okay. Um. So alcohol even served at 94 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: room camperature or or on ice, feels hot um in 95 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: your in your mouth because it lowers the trigger point 96 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: of heat receptors in your mouth from that their natural 97 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: standpoint of somewhere around a hundred and seven fahrenheit or 98 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: forty two celsius all the way down to around ninety 99 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: three fahrenheit or thirty four celsius, which is below your 100 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: body temperature. So like for a few seconds, while that 101 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: alcohol is messing with those heat receptors, your mouth is 102 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: reporting to your brain that it is actually on fire. 103 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: M mmmm, so that's what's going on there. Um. It 104 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: feels warm in your throat and stomach because it's dilating 105 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: um the blood vessels there. Uh. Alcohol does not bodily 106 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: warm you up. Um, you actually cool off due to 107 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: loss of heat through blood vessel dilation near the skin. Um. 108 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: But it might make you care less that you feel cold. Ah, yes, 109 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: m yeah. There was a there was a really cute 110 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: segment of the show MythBusters once where they proved this 111 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: with infra red heat. They put Jamie and Adam like 112 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: in a big, big refrigerated chamber and Adam was slowly 113 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: getting drunker and Jamie was slowly getting s earlier. And yeah, 114 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: yeah yeah there. You know, Well, I guess speaking of 115 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: what about the nutrition, uh drink responsibly um. But other 116 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: other than that, um, but right, like you were saying, um, 117 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people uh use a hot toddy in 118 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: a kind of medicinal way. And so all right, there's there, 119 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of stuff behind this, part of 120 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: which we're going to get into in the in the 121 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: in the history section, because alcohol was back in the 122 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: day considered medicinal. UM. But all right, Laurence Killjoy Corner 123 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: is open for business here because although many of the 124 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: common ingredients of hot toddies do have some amount of 125 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: research proving that they help prevent illnesses like colds and flues, 126 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: there is no evidence that taken together, a hot toddy 127 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: will treat such an illness. UM. In fact, it's really 128 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: the opposite, or I mean, maybe not the opposite, but 129 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: it's not the best choice, like um because alcohol and 130 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: caffeinated tease, if you're using that, those both dehydrate you. 131 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: That's bad, that's not that's not good for for a 132 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: cold situation. The teas and citrus and spices do have 133 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: some vitamins and antioxidants and anti inflammatories that UM that 134 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: can help you out, but they're more like preventative than curative. UM. 135 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: It's not like going to really make a difference. If 136 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: you're drinking it while you don't feel good, you should 137 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: have drank it before and kind of frequently, and probably 138 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: without the alcohol. UM. Also, once you thin out honey. 139 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: It's not particularly a throat treatment anymore. The the idea 140 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: of honey being a throat treatment comes from it helping 141 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: coat your throat, and I don't think that that's what 142 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: it does once you've dissolved it in a hot water 143 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: and alcohol. UM. And evidence is lacking either way, whether 144 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: that's really effective or whether that's kind of um traditional 145 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: medicine type wisdom. Um And, y'all, I read so many scientific, 146 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: really bad takes about hot toddies while I was doing 147 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: this reading. Uh so quickness busting Alcohol does not make 148 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: you sleep better. Um. It will make you tired, but 149 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: you will sleep worse under the effects of alcohol. Alcohol's 150 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: anti microbial properties do not help your immune system kill 151 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: a cold. That's not how it works. It might help 152 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: disinfect your mouth a tiny bit. Um. Alcohol's potential anti 153 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: inflammatory properties, when consumed moderately over time, will not help 154 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: soothe an inflamed throat. That's not the type of anti 155 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: inflammatory that it's doing. Um. Alcohol irritates mucus membranes. It 156 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: might stimulate um um mucus production by irritating those membranes, 157 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: but you've already irritated them, So I'm not sure if 158 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,359 Speaker 1: that's a win. Uh. I will say that, yes, alcohol 159 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: can comb pain temporarily, but honestly, the best part of 160 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: a hot toddy for you is the hot water. Yeah. 161 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: Though again, alcohol might make you care less. I think 162 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: that's my mom was going for. It distracts you for 163 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, keep keep in 164 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: mind that that alcohol can also lower your immune system 165 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: response and thus like draw out a cold. So so again, 166 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: as we say many times, we can't tell you what 167 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: to do. I personally would not recommend ever taking alcohol. Um, 168 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: while you're ill. That's not that's not what your body wants. 169 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: That's certainly not what my body wants. The idea of 170 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: drinking when I'm sick, my whole being is like now, yeah, yeah, 171 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: but but yeah, that's that's that's just me. If you 172 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: feel differently, you know, like like like one drink isn't 173 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: gonna do that much damage. But make sure that you're hydrating. Yes, 174 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: always important hydration. Um, we don't really have any numbers 175 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: for you. We have a random interesting fact we do. 176 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: We do, yeah, numbers As always with cocktails, it's kind 177 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: of hard to it's kind of hard to come by 178 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: because it's just like, oh, man bars are making this. 179 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: There's no there's no one collecting those numbers. Um. Yeah, 180 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: and I think the hot Toddy Um. While it is 181 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: experiencing some popularity right now, it's been something most people 182 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I feel like make at home or like. It's very 183 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: specific to the holidays, absolutely absolutely so and also huge 184 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: category yeah yeah yeah um but yeah yeah this interesting 185 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: culture note with no numbers in it. Yes, because I was, 186 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, clicking on articles from sources that I thought 187 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: it was probably reputable. Usually if it's like a dot 188 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: D you will at least check it out. So I 189 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: clicked on this. Apparently all miss the University has a 190 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: hotty toddy cheer that no one knows for sure where 191 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: it originated. Yeah, okay, this was first I lied. There 192 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: is one number in here. Um it was first written 193 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: down in and um I'm not I'm not from I 194 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: have no affiliation with this cheer, so if I'm like 195 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: doing it in the wrong rhythm, I apologize, but but 196 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: it but it goes more or less lustly hot toddy 197 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: gosha mighty, Who in the hell are we ram ram 198 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: flam flam all miss by Damn? I don't know. I 199 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: don't know either, listeners let us know. Yeah, please, this 200 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: was It was quite the revelation. I was like, I'm 201 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: going to learn more about this hot alcoholic beverage. What 202 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: and add a big picture of Snoop dog on it 203 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: on the page Because of the celebrities like Russell Crowe, 204 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg, Beattie White, Sandra Bullock, Jack Black and others 205 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: have led this cheer, yeah yes, indeed, Well, getting back 206 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: to the drink, yeah yeah, yeah, no one is entirely 207 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: sure how connected that cheer is to the drink and when, 208 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: because originally it was not Hotti totty, Yeah, it was 209 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: something else. But at any rate, Um, we do have 210 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: things to say about the hot toddy. We do a 211 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of things in fact, and we will get into 212 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: that history of things when we get back from a 213 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: quick word from our sponsors and we're back, Thank you sponsored, Yes, 214 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: thank you. So humans have a long history of putting 215 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: alcohol into a lot of things, but into something warm 216 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: in this context to fortify themselves during the cold or 217 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: when they are feeling under the weather. Yeah, and I 218 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: feel like we talked about like like like warmed beer 219 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: beverages and our butter beer episode. Um, we haven't done 220 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: one about mulled wine yet. But but right, lots of 221 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that going back, and we did talk about sailing. 222 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, that could have been anywhere anyway, fitness 223 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: um okay uh. Meanwhile, though, um distilled alcohol as a 224 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: beverage came on the scene around the eleven or twelve 225 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: hundreds c e. Probably from China, through the Arabian Peninsula 226 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: and then into Italy UM where the production of it 227 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: was picked up by monks and it was considered medicinal 228 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: um and uh, and thus spread with monasteries through the 229 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: rest of Europe, including to Ireland and Scotland. By the 230 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: early four teen hundreds, and over the next couple of centuries, 231 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: distillation technology and post processes improved and gave rise to 232 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: products like malt based whiskey there um and molasses based 233 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: rum over in the Caribbean um. And simultaneously to all 234 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: of that, people were starting to experiment with ways to 235 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: dilute distilled alcohol and make it taste good, sometimes served hot. 236 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Historians often trace the hot toddy specifically to India around 237 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: the early sixteen hundreds. Linguistically, anyway, yes, in the sixteen 238 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: chance the English word toddy reference to quote beverage made 239 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: from fermented palm sap. Yeah. And this was from the 240 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Hindi word tadi meaning sap from this one kind of 241 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: palm tree called it um. So yeah, it got picked 242 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: up into English. Yeah. Yeah. One of the first known 243 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: written instances of toddy in English meaning quote a beverage 244 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: made of alcoholic cliquer with hot water, sugar and spices, 245 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: occurred in seventeen six. Yeah. And remember from our spice 246 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: episodes that it was during the seventeen hundreds that spices 247 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: and sugar went from being like wildly prohibitively expensive to 248 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: to merely pretty expensive, just pretty expensive. Yeah. The British 249 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: took this strinth from India and called it There's though 250 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: this is again one of those things that probably originated 251 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: in multiple places at multiple times. Yeah, I'm not I 252 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: haven't read a specific historical evidence that people in India 253 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: were independently making what we would consider a hot toddy. 254 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm not totally positive that the English didn't just take 255 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: that word and bend it to mean something else, but 256 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: mystery's history. Indeed, in one simple early variation of the 257 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: hot toddy adapted for the UK based on what they 258 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: have around, what they had around. Bartenders poured hot water 259 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: into scotch whiskey, and in some almost certainly untrue tellings 260 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: of this tale, the water was sourced from Todd's well, 261 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: hence the name Todd being a bartender I guess of 262 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: well renowned. Yes, As spices became more widely available with 263 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: the expansion of trade roots, um, these spices were thrown 264 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: into the hot toddy as well. In one popularly told tale, 265 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: an Irish doctor named Robert Bentley Todd used to prescribe 266 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: a mixture of hot Brandies, sugar water, and cinnamon to 267 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: patients and doctors at the time, we're prescribing alcoholic beverages 268 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: to patients to numb pain and alleviate symptoms associated with 269 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: things like colds. Yeah. I'm sure that there was doctor 270 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: named Todd somewhere, and I'm sure and I know that 271 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: doctors were prescribing booze um, but I don't think that 272 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: that's where the drink comes from. Yeah. Yeah again to me, 273 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: it just it just makes sense this was happening. Yeah. Um. 274 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: When European colonists arrived in North America, they brought their 275 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: hot Toddies with them and adapted them based on local 276 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: ingredients like rum from the Caribbean. Sometimes these hot toddies 277 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: were served in communal bowls um sometimes with additions like 278 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: egg yolks, and perhaps sometimes called bumbo. I think so um. 279 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: It was served at social events, political rallies, business meetings, 280 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: you name it. And I loved finding this out. At 281 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: the time, it was viewed as sort of uncouth for 282 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: politicians to try to get folks to vote for you 283 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: through ads or speeches, so instead they would often host 284 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: these fancy picnics or barbecues on election day, going around 285 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: and introducing them self, shaking hands and kissing babies, and 286 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: of course keeping that alcohol flowing. And this was called 287 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: quote swilling the planters with bumbo, and whoever's bumbo supply 288 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: lasted the longest was the winner. When George Washington first 289 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: ran for a seat in the Virginia House in seventeen 290 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: fifty five, he was concerned about the amount of taverns 291 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: and how these taverns affected soldiers, so he didn't really 292 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: engage in this practice and he lost the election. Yeah, 293 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: so lesson learned. I guess. When he ran in seventeen 294 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: fifty eight, the alcohol was flowing. Reportedly he provided over 295 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: one forty four gallons of rum punch, hard cider and beer, 296 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: which almost came out to half a gallon per voter, 297 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: and he won the election. Oh my goodness, I know, 298 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: I know. In eight thirty seven article out of the 299 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: Burlington Free Press called how to Take a Old, the 300 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: author praised the health benefits of hot hotties, particularly when 301 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: it comes to cold. They write, if your child begins 302 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: to snuffle occasionally, to have red eyes or a little deafness, 303 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: if his skin feels dry and hot and his breath 304 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: is feverish, you have now an opportunity of doing your 305 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: work much faster than ever before. Plot him well with 306 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: hot stimulating drinks, of which hot toddy is the best. Wow. Yeah, 307 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: well I am well with hot stimulating drinks. Hot liquids great, 308 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: mostly of the non alcoholic variety um supposedly though William 309 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: Faulkner served them as a curative. And yeah, as I said, 310 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: these days, the hot Toddy is the subject of a 311 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: lot of experimentation in the cocktail world, I think for 312 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: the past decade or so. With you know, we've been 313 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: talking about this for for a minute in these cocktail episodes, 314 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: but as kind of craft mixology came back onto the scene. Yeah, yeah, 315 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: I know, um that back back when I went to bars, goodness, um, 316 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: places with a cocktail list would usually switch over to 317 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: like having a couple of warm drinks in the fall 318 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: or winter time, and a hot toddy of some sort 319 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: would usually be included. Mm hmmm. And as I was 320 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: reading through this, there really was just a whole plethora 321 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: of hot toddies that I've never considered before, and I 322 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: my eyes are opened. My mind was blowy world, a 323 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: whole new hot toddy world out there. Right. Yeah, I'm 324 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm really interested in, really interested in trying some of 325 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: these things out. Me too, Me too. Well. In the meantime, 326 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: that's what we have to say about the hot toddy 327 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: for now. It is um. We do have some listener 328 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: mail for you though, and we're going to get into 329 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: that as soon as we get back from a quick 330 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor. And we're back, 331 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, sponsored, Yes, thank you, We're back with the 332 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: snow m Bob Broke. Still catching up on your episodes 333 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: of your show that passed me by these last few months, 334 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: and I just finished your Turkey one having been living 335 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: abroad for nearly a quarter of a century now, I've 336 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: tried to keep Thanksgiving tradition alive in my household, with 337 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: varying degrees of success. This year, being in London, the 338 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: closest I could get to a Thanksgiving meal it was 339 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: a subway foot long turkey sub Anyway, I did love 340 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: this episode, and all the turkey talk reminded me of 341 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: a turkey event, or at least a fictional one that 342 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: had me laughing my full head off when I first 343 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: watched it. It was an episode of a sitcom from 344 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: the nineteen w k RP in Cincinnati that was a 345 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: long time ago and most likely predates your existence, but 346 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: it still stands up as comedy gold. So Bob's at 347 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: the link and I went and watched it, and it's 348 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: I guess. The characters of the show work at a 349 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: radio station and they're staging a big promotion that they're 350 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: calling a turkey drop, and it's really dramatic coverage. They're 351 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: very excited, they're very proud of the whole thing. Um 352 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: they call it the greatest turkey event in history. Uh. 353 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: It turns out that the plan was to drop a 354 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: live turkeys from a helicopter into a mall parking lot 355 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: um and the punch line at the end was as 356 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: God as my witness. I thought turkeys could fly. The 357 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: people were angry, the staff was terrorized. The turkeys that 358 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: did not end well. For no no, no, no no no. 359 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Cars were destroyed. Oh no, oh goodness. Um John wrote 360 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: as a lad when Mammoth's walked to the earth, we 361 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: would make clothes at an orange pomanders at Christmas to 362 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: hang on the tree. I also have a vague memory 363 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: of making them in school. We also strung popcorn and 364 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: cranberries with needle and thread to hang on the trees 365 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: of Garland. On your crepe episode, the description of the 366 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: savory scallop crepes made me salivate like a St. Bernard dog. 367 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: It gave me an incredible scallop. Jones and I have 368 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: not been able to find any in the stores. I 369 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: am unfulfilled. Oh we feel you, we do we do. Oh. 370 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: I remember I remember stringing popcorn um as like a 371 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: like a craft project in school. When I was in 372 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: elementary school, Um and my family Christmas tree had a 373 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: garland of fake cranberries that we would have on the tree. 374 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I never I never actually strung cranberries, but um, but yeah, 375 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: fake was probably easier. Yeah, cleaner, cleaner, a little bit 376 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: less messy. Yeah, I was for some reason, my family 377 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: never did that, and I was really jealous. I don't 378 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: know why. I don't I think, yeah, like I saw 379 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: it in The Grinch and I thought, oh, that's the 380 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: epitome of Christmas. Right. You also just really like popcorn, 381 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 1: like you're like, like, I I don't mean this as 382 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: an insult, Like it's just a fact, Like you're very 383 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: food motivated and so like, I'm sure that you were 384 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: going like, but I could have more popcorn. There could 385 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: be holiday popcorn. It could smell like popcorn, and and 386 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: I could just see popcorn off the tree whenever no 387 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: one was looking. Yeah, well that would be the thing, 388 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: is that we'd wake up Christmas mornings all the popcorn's 389 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: gone somehow. 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