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Of course you see him not 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: only with me on college football games on ESPN, but 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: of course across all of our NFL coverage always the 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: touch screen. And Scott pol a longtime NFL general manager. Guys, 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: we have reached the playoffs. It is wild Card week. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some matchups coming up. But there 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: was major drama this past weekend with some of the 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: games that led us to the matchups that will see 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: this coming Saturday, Sunday and Monday. We got a Monday 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: night wild Card game to talk about later this week, 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: so a lot of fun. You'll have three days of 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: wall to Wall playoff football. But there was probably no 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: higher drama game than Raiders Chargers. I mean, who with 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers being woven into this intrigue, who knew how 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: this was going to play out. Well, ultimately it played 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: out with the Raiders pulling off an extremely dramatic win. 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: And here's what Derek Carr had to say after it 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: was over, about all they've been through this season. You know, 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I was talking Mr Davis in the locker room, and Uh, 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: one of the things we were talking about is like, 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: I don't think any team has been through what we've 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: been through in ten years, let alone one year, you know, 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: and there's so much emotion, uh with uh, you'll pick 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: a pick a story, you know. Um, there's so much 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: emotion with with everything that we've done. And my brother 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: said it best. He said this team was forged on fire. 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: And I kind of like that. You know. We went 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: through some stuff, some refining, some some hard times. Um, 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: we locked the doors every day on Monday, and the 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: people that were inside that building didn't stop believing. And 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: it's it showed today we made it to the playoffs. 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: It's awesome. Um, it's probably it's probably the coolest accomplishment 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: I think I've ever had in my life football wise, 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to see where we were at, everything we went through 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: and to still make it no record, no thing. This 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: was the coolest thing to see this team come together 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: and be able to steal decide that this is what 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: we wanted to do. And um, it's it's a cool feeling, 67 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Well, there's an amazing, as we said, 68 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: amount of storylines coming out of that locker room for 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders. And look, I mean the Henry Ruggs tragedy, 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: and it is a tragedy. A woman lost her life. Um. 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: At the same time, you know our lane as football, 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: so you think about how that must have impacted this 73 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: football team, losing their coach in a scandal at the 74 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: start of the season, and they get through all of 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: that and are now going to the playoffs. And you know, Scott, 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: I might screw this up. You probably know the quote 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: better than me, but I think Bill Walsh was the 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: one who said, in order to win in the playoffs, 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: you need multiple things. You need a quarterback and you 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: need a fourth quarter pass rush. And it looks to 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: me like this is a Raider team that, as we 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: head towards the playoffs might have both of those things. 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: I think Derek Cars an underrated quarterback. Their pass rush 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: was tremendous in that game. I mean, what what were 85 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: going through your mind as you were watching the Raiders 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and how they pulled this off against the Chargers. I 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: love this game for so many reasons. Again, being a 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: former general manager in front office guy, I loved it 89 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: for you know, you just touched on it, Bob, the 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: other reasons. We are football, but in order to get 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: to football and maintain and sustained football, there's all this 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: other stuff that happens in your locker room, that happens 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: around your office. And what happened with the Raiders this 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: year and what they endured with Jon Gruden, with Henry 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Ruggs again too awful, awful situations for different reasons. But 96 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: then there were other issues. Yet you saw this team 97 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: continue week to week and there was a combination of things. 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it you know, started with Rich Besaccia 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: the job that he didn't I've known Rich forever. I 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: knew when him when back when he's a Yonkers New 101 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: York slash Connecticut area guy, and he had a little 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: loof I want to say it was new Fairfield is 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: where he went to high school. Um but anyway, Yeah, 104 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: but Rich was an assistant coach at Wayne State in Nebraska, 105 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: and when I met him in the mid eighties and 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: we were working this football camp together up at Fairfield University. 107 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: He is the same guy today that he was back then. 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: And what I say, he's smarter and more experienced, but 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: the same person in terms of his intelligence, his passion, 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: yet his even killed personality and ability to let people 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: talk and listen and process information is the same. And 112 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: he did an amazing job this year. We're talking about 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: the first time that an interim head coaches ever in 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: in ever in NFL history, taken a team to the playoffs. 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: Pretty remarkable. Then I look at the other backstory, the 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: locker room leadership, the players, guys who you know, Bob. 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned Max Crosby, who had an unbelievable day, unbelievable 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I mean, he was relentless. But here's a 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: guy who has overcome so much in his personal life 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: and had a culture and a locker room that wasn't perfect, 121 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: but it was sure good enough and strong enough where 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: he could fix his issues on the fly. You have 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: a locker room where another player came out as gay. 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: There's this culture there and I really believe that one 125 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: of the primary folks responsible for that is Mike Mayock, 126 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: who doesn't get enough credit Mike Mayock. And again, I've 127 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: known Mike for a long long time and I understand 128 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: there's some people that like him. There's a lot of 129 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: people that don't like him. And to those folks, um, 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: they don't really know Mike Mack. And I know what 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: a good man he is. I know how well intentioned 132 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: he is. I know how he believes in the right things. Um. 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: And they built a culture and to me, that's what 134 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: gave this team the resiliency. Then going to this game, 135 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Derek Carr showed up when he had 136 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: to show up. His numbers don't look great, and people 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: always want to talk about numbers, but he made plays 138 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: when he had to make plays. He was under duress 139 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: in that game himself, and again I'm happy for him 140 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: again because of the person that Derek is. And he's 141 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: not a great quarterback, he's like many other quarterbacks. There's 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: upstairs downs, but he did enough to help win the game. Yeah, 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: I think the best way for me to describe Derek 144 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Carr this season is clutch, you know, and I think 145 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: that we're not applauding and praising Derek Carr enough both 146 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: on the field for again, the clutch plays if you 147 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: go back in time now with the Browns game, clutch, 148 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Steelers game clutch, this past weekend clutch eight game plays. 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: And then the off the field leadership that he's displayed, 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: kind of standing on his own in many ways now, 151 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: I think many much of that is faith driven, but 152 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: there's a great leadership lesson applied to it as well. Um, 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I think what the Raiders did in this game was 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: really good. It's it's so the Raiders are in some 155 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: way fascinating to me because you know, I remember coming 156 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: up in the NFL when I was younger uh two 157 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: thousand five, two thousand six, two thousand seven world I 158 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: was a young quarterback. I drafted it oh five and 159 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: that's when the era and you guys remembers were like 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the Tampa two defense really became booming. And it was 161 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: funny because as a young player, the way I was 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: brought up I was I would study tape maniacally and 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: we were playing. I was with the Lions and we 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: were playing the same division as a team like the 165 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and the Bears would run cover three or 166 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: cover two every play, I mean every play, And so 167 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: I would sit there and watch tape and be like, 168 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna gas this team. You know that, I know 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: exactly where they're gonna be, I know exactly what they're doing, 170 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: I know where they're weak, all that stuff. And then 171 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: you would play them and you'd be like, what in 172 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: the world is this because it would happen so fast, 173 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: and that rush would get there so quickly, and you 174 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: would be playing so hurried, and you have all these 175 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: eyes on you watching what you were doing with the football, 176 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: and then you know the defense is tied to your eyes. 177 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: I used to always hear this saying, there's a string 178 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: connected to your eyes, and then the defensive players and 179 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: those guys would just follow your eyes. And that's what 180 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: it feels like. When I watched the Raiders, I mean, 181 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: they nine and a half out of ten snaps play 182 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: four man rush cover three, and when I cut on 183 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,479 Speaker 1: their tape, I'm like, how are teams not just gashing 184 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: this more? And it is because the that four man rush, 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Even some of those inside players like Philon have become 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: really impactful, and they do such a good job with 187 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: their coverage. You know. It's funny because in football we 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: say there's this saying, well, the rush impacts the coverage. 189 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I actually think it's reversed for the Raiders. I think 190 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: their coverage impacts their rush, you know, because of that 191 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: zone defense and because of those guys playing top down 192 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: and forcing you to take some of those underneath throws 193 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: that aren't easy, that rush has just a little bit 194 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: more time to get home. And I think that's one 195 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: of the most impressive things of their team. And I'd 196 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: have to give praise to two players on offense outside 197 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: of Derek obviously. I think Hunter Renfro has become one 198 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: of the top fifteen receivers in the NFL, and he 199 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: just gets open that his two touchdown catches. If that 200 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: was Davante Adams, the whole NFL world would be erupting 201 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: with the ability to route run. Just the route running 202 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: that he puts on is so good. And then Zay Jones. 203 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: You guys mentioned Henry Ruggs and the tragedy Bob that 204 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: you talked about. Zay Jones and this is another Mike 205 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Mayock kind of tip of the cap has really stepped 206 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: up and become that number two wide receiver option for 207 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: this offense. And I think his ability to push defenses 208 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: vertically has really helped their offense. They're they're they're an 209 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: impressive football organis zation, I guess is the best way 210 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: for me to describe it. It's a great way to 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: put Bob. I just want to jump in one other thing. 212 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Hunter renfro and you know, I 213 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: love what you said, Dan. And one of the things 214 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: I learned in the NFL pretty quickly was there's a 215 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk about speed, a lot 216 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: of people want to talk about different you know, in 217 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: terms when it comes to receivers. What I learned quickly 218 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: from some pretty smart people that I was around. They 219 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: taught me about receivers getting open, and different receivers get 220 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: open different ways. Some use size, some use speed, some 221 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: use quickness. It's the ability to get an instant of 222 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: separation somehow within the route so the quarterback can get 223 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the ball on them. Then it's also up to the 224 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: quarterback to understand each one of his receivers and what 225 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: their skill set is and how they get open. And 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, you look at Hunter Renfro and I see 227 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: some of the stuff he's he's quicker than he is fast, right, 228 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: because not every fast player is quick, and not every 229 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: quick player is fast, and you have to use players for, 230 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, for what their skill set is. And Hunter 231 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: Renfro really does a good job that he's dependable. Again, 232 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: very similar to Troy Brown up in you know, when 233 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: I was with the Patriots, Wayne Crbett, when I was 234 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: with the Jets. Again, guys who find a way to 235 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: get open, to use their their ability to separate for 236 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: an instant whatever that skill set is. A Couple of 237 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: other quick thoughts too, things the fact that they played 238 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: this game, that they played it, that this ridiculous notion 239 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: that even if it was close at the end, that 240 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: they were going to take a knee and both go 241 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: to the playoffs and play for a like Iron Sharpen's 242 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: Iron play the game. First of all, if I'm the 243 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: Raiders or the Chargers, I think that my opponent in 244 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: that game is a better team than the Steelers. Like 245 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: I would rather have the Steelers in the tournament than 246 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the opponent in that game, because I think that weakens 247 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: the field, Because I think the Steelers are by far 248 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: of all of the teams of the postseason. I think 249 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: they're the weakest team that made the postseason. So I 250 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: like the I of getting the better team out. But 251 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: it's got all the years you were in New England, 252 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and I guess I'm living this in a jet world, 253 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: which of course is just a recurring nightmare. Um like, 254 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: did you ever sit your guys, Like, did you ever 255 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: get to the end of the season, last game of 256 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: the season, So you know what, everybody sits and we're 257 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: just gonna forfeit this game. We're gonna even you know, 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: if the game has a mild amount of meaning. We 259 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: think if we just bench everybody and play for you know, 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: even for going on the road in the wild card spot, 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: we're better off. I think that that, no, Bob, I 262 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: think there were times where we may have gotten guys 263 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: out of the game a little bit earlier. It's just 264 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: like that. It's the same mentality the number of starters 265 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive starters. While in New England that we 266 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: played on special teams. I mean Ty Law played on 267 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: special teams, Mike Raby played on special teams. It's this mentality, 268 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: and I think if um, you need to find this balance. 269 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about this before. I I love 270 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: the concept of all gas and no breaks, but I 271 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: also think that there needs to be intelligence mixed in there. 272 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: You can be all gas, no brakes, and you don't 273 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: need to be all gas, no brakes, no brains, right, 274 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: there is an element of thoughtfulness and good decision making 275 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: that comes into it. And and I think that whole 276 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: idea that anyone was thinking about kneeling or going for 277 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the tie, I think that was people outside of the 278 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: coaching office, the locker room. Because to me, if you 279 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: have that mentality, there's a flaw in your competitive nature. 280 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: If you have a flaw in your competitive nature or 281 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: a weakness in your competitive nature, um, you're you're probably 282 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: in the wrong business. Yeah. I mean, maybe I'll be 283 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: proven wrong this weekend, but I would much rather go 284 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: into the playoffs feeling the way like the Cowboys and 285 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders feel, the way that they just played and 286 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: the numbers they just put up and the way the 287 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Raiders won, then being a team that sat all their guys, 288 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: got drilled and are now coming into the postseason off 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: of all outside of loss, even if it was their 290 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: backups in the game, But Dan, I think just quickly 291 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes left in the segments spin 292 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: it to the Chargers, you know. I mean, look, Justin 293 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Herbert had some moments in this game. Again, we're Justin 294 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: Herbert is just unbelievable. Like his his ability level is otherworldly. 295 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: Having said that, though, the fact that they came up short, yeah, 296 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: it's disappointing. I think that Brandon Staley is as an 297 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: incredibly bright future as a head coach. I think he's 298 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: probably got to learn aggression versus um recklessness. I think 299 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: that fourth and one backed up was a little reckless. 300 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: And I know they've done it a ton and we've 301 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: seen other teams do it. Um, you don't have a 302 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: dominant offensive line they've been Narraiders have a pretty good one, 303 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: and you run the ball right at them. You know, 304 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: if he had gone shotgun quarterback run option, I would 305 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: have been a little bit more okay with that. So 306 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: just learning on that. I like aggression. I've I've it's 307 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: not always gonna work out, so I like it. But learning, 308 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I guess you know where to pick your moments is 309 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: probably a good thing for them this offseason. Um, thanks Um. 310 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: I think that they got to fix the right side 311 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: of their offensive line. You know, I think that while 312 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: their offense, you know, Slater is amazing, but the right 313 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: side of their offensive lines got to get better. Um. 314 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I think the interior their defense has got to get stronger, 315 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: both at the linebacker level in their interior. I mean, 316 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: there's there's a reason why they had the worst run 317 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: defense in football this year. So you're not gonna win 318 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: much with the ability to not stop the run, you know. 319 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: So you know, everyone talked about that time out. You know, 320 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: it's the time out was poor. Uh was which was 321 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: poorer was the ability to stopped the run in that 322 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: moment as well. So really good future, really bright future 323 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: for that organization because of the quarterback and I believe 324 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: in the head coach, but I think they've got some 325 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: pieces to add to Eco Scott. You're you're really good 326 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: at this step. I'm a big fani thanks for a 327 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: living you know. No, I think it's a great point 328 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: to bring up about Staley too, because you know he's 329 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: a young coach. Cut him some slack. We immediately get 330 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: to this place where we attack young coaches. And again, 331 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: did I like the calls? Did I agree with it. No, 332 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I didn't, And hopefully he's smart enough to learn from 333 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: it or and maybe that's not saying it the right 334 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: way because I don't mean to say it like he's 335 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: not smart. Hopefully that experience will teach him that there 336 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: may be make a different decision in the future. And 337 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was with Bill during his first uh, 338 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, his first go around in the Cleveland Browns. 339 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: Not everything he did was perfect. You know, a lot 340 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: of young coaches make mistakes. Do things. Give people a 341 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: chance to learn from their mistakes. And you know, with 342 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: the Herbert, I can't wait to watch this kid more 343 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: in the future. I mean, some of those throws he 344 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: makes during that game, it's just unbelievable, unbelievable. Well, we've 345 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: got a lot more to do here on tapeds when 346 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: we come back. You know, Vince Kate saw, one of 347 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: our producers writes our teases and sometimes I changed them 348 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm gonna change this one slightly because 349 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: his teases it might have been the biggest disappointment of 350 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the entire season. I'm changing it. It was the biggest 351 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: disappointment of the entire season. When we come back, I 352 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: don't like you. We're gonna laid Dan or love Sky 353 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: down on the therapist couch and see if we can 354 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: get him through this. That's a tough time for him. 355 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: Find out what we're talking about next on tape beds. 356 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: You want the confidence of knowing that the people, places, 357 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: and things that matter to you are protected. 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It was 384 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: not easy to watch Carson Wentz perform in that game. 385 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say after it was over. 386 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah sucks, honestly, Um, you know, walking off kind of 387 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: in disbelief. It's hard to fully reflect on everything right now. 388 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: It all happened so fast. But just even thinking back 389 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: just to where we came from, dug ourselves out of 390 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, we're in control of our destiny, 391 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: and in the last two weeks, uh just didn't just 392 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: didn't get it done. And it hurts right now. A 393 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: lot of reflection to come over the next handful of days, unfortunately, 394 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: but um, yeah, it's a it's not a good feeling 395 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: right now. All right, Well, Dan, look, I don't really 396 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: know how to put into perspective a game where you 397 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: are on the road against arguably the worst team in 398 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: the league, you're in a win, and you're in situation 399 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: and at the end of the game your QBR is 400 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: four point four. Um. I almost feel like sometimes I 401 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: get caught in the Sam Donald worldpool as well, Like 402 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: maybe you and me and Carson and Sam will need 403 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: to get together and go bowling and have a like 404 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: a heart to heart together because like we're, you know, 405 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: we people. We've seen it, right, Like we've seen Carson 406 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Wentz and Sam Donald do on a football field what 407 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: big time franchise quarterbacks are supposed to be able to do. 408 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: And yet in this moment, when you were watching this game, 409 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: what happened? Um? Alright, So I think that, yes, the 410 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: strong statement is this lost falls at the feet of 411 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. It does, Um, but you are not a 412 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: playoff caliber football team that has beaten the likes of 413 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, New England, Arizona in Buffalo in the last 414 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: month and go down and play a to win team 415 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: and have anybody play well. Everybody on that football team 416 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: played poorly. Everyone. Their offensive line gave up seven sacks. 417 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor had seventies something rushing yards. The receivers had 418 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I counted, they have four plays where I thought a 419 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: receiver one four um. Their defensive line got absolutely no 420 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: pressure and they couldn't cover. It was weird because it 421 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: was almost each side did something differently. You know when 422 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: we say sometimes like this team played cautious or this 423 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: team played scared. I felt defensively, they played cautious. They 424 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: never got aggressive. They just sat back and it almost 425 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: seemed like they were, oh, it will be okay, We're 426 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, you know. And and I don't know 427 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: if the injuries at corner kind of, but they never 428 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: decided to go after the Jaguars offense. And then on offense, 429 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: it had the same type of feel. They never got 430 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: aggressive in their run game. It felt like they never 431 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: they never said that. It was always like, well it'll 432 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: click you know, Jonathan's gonna bust a big run. That's 433 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: what I felt like, and and um, it was disappointing 434 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: to watch. Now that being said in relation to Carson Wentz, 435 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the reason I say that the last look it's fair 436 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: to say the lost falls at his feet was it's 437 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: the perfect example of that phrase that I kind of 438 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: like to say when it comes to the the quarterbacks, win 439 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: with or win, because the Colts won a ton of 440 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: games with Carson Wentz this year. This was a game 441 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: they needed to win because of Carson Wentz. All those 442 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: other pieces didn't play well. I need your quarterback. I 443 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: traded a one for you for this kind of game. 444 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: I know it's not easy, and I know it's not fair. 445 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: That's life in the NFL, is the starting quarterback with 446 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: those expectations, you know. And I was disappointed. And the 447 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: thing that, you know, I think I became blind to 448 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to say blind to it. Like I 449 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: didn't say that I believed in Carson Wentz just to 450 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: get a raw ra you know, rise out of people 451 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: like I honestly did. I honestly believe that he was 452 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: in that place he was gonna put it all together 453 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: and become great again. I think it was good this season. 454 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: I think he was okay in this game. But the 455 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: thing that is different than I guess you know my 456 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: favorite quality. You guys have heard me say this about quarterbacks. 457 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: My favorite quality, and I think it's the most important 458 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: quality in quarterbacks, physical or mental, is the ability to 459 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: not panic with the football. And that's what separates Tom 460 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: for a long time, what separates a young superstar like 461 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow right now, Carson, I don't know if I 462 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: if he has that. I don't. I don't think he 463 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: has that, the ability to not panic with the football learned. 464 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: It's difficult, man, Like, how how deep into your career 465 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: do we need to see that before we start to 466 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: say it could still happen or it's just not gonna 467 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: happen for this player. I think I think we're at 468 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: a point where a guy has played for as many 469 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: plays and as many snats as he has um. The 470 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: thing that's tough about it, Bob, in my opinion, is 471 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: like that sometimes leads to splash plays. It does. Sometimes 472 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: it leads to an incredibly remarkable plays, and then sometimes 473 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: it leads to backbreakers. And I think we saw examples 474 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: of that this season, certainly on Sunday, so um obviously 475 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: an incredibly disappointing game for the for the Colts as 476 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: an organization, and the tough one as I watch it too, 477 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: because even though we're not supposed to and even though 478 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: I worked in the league, you know, you end up 479 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: rooting for people and people that do things the right way, 480 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: and and Frank Right and Chris Ballard and and honestly 481 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. They're just good people that you want to 482 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: see their behavior, their approach be rewarded. And you know, 483 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: you go into a game like this and it's a 484 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: game where you know, Carson Wentz gets hit. I don't 485 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: know tennal even times he's sacked six times. I think 486 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: he was under a lot of duress and that does 487 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: affect him and affects every quarterback and for everybody is 488 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: sitting at home that says, well, he can't handle pressure, 489 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: he can't handle the hits. Well, again, I always go 490 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: back to, you know, I didn't play the position, but 491 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: I was always close enough to football to see what 492 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: happens to people in that position when they get hit. Dan, 493 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: you lived it, and if it doesn't mess with your mindset, 494 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you're thinking, then there's something wrong with you and you're 495 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: not human. It's whether or not you can continue to 496 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: do it. And you know, I know, Dan, we've been 497 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: slightly you know, slightly different on Carson. I've always wanted 498 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Carson to be better and more than he is. Again, 499 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: I've seen him as an above average quarterback that has 500 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: had good games at times, and in my heart I've 501 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: wanted to see him prove me wrong and again because 502 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: of who he is and the way he approaches the game, 503 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: because he's such a good ambassador for the sport. He's 504 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: the kind of player in person that you want to 505 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: see young football players emulate. And um, when when you 506 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: strip that away and you put on your general manager 507 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: hat and you're saying, listen, we've got to be business here. Um, 508 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: I still see him as a quarterback that is above 509 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: average and at times had good has good games. I 510 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: don't ever he has more good games than awful games, 511 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: And in totality, I just don't know if he's going 512 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: to be a guy that that can He may have 513 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: an opportunity to win a championship, I don't know if 514 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: he can can. I don't think he can consistently win 515 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: champions Now that being said, Dan, as you mentioned and 516 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: Bobby you mentioned, there were enough other problems in the game. Again, 517 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: when your quarterbacks hit ten times and he sacked six times, 518 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: and you've got, you know, allegedly the best running back 519 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: in the game and one of the best offensive lines 520 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: in the game, and you go down to play it 521 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: team like the Jacksonville Jaguars who have nothing to play for, 522 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: and you go lay an egg. It's completely totally, absolutely unacceptable. Yeah, 523 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: it was amazing to watch, and really like some of 524 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: the performances the Colts have had, certainly second half of 525 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: the season, Like they went to Buffalo and ran for 526 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy yards against one of the best 527 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: defense of the NFL. Their losses for the most part 528 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: this season were to playoff teams a right, they lost 529 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: to the Raiders, they lost twice to Tennessee. That's a 530 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: one seed, um. So they had nothing in the entire 531 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 1: schedule leading up to Sunday that would suggest that they 532 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: would go out there and perform like that. And Scott, 533 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I think to take it a step further, I'm just 534 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: curious if you're leading up that day after or two 535 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: days after meeting the post mortem and now we're gonna 536 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: get together and we're gonna have our come to Jesus 537 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: as an organization. How hard is it to sit at 538 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: the head of that table with all your guys there 539 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: and say, guys, we might have to admit like what 540 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: we are and what Carson Wentz is, and now what 541 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: do we do? Where do we go as an organization 542 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: in the future. Or if Carson Wentz is what you're saying, 543 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: he's a decent quarterback, he's average, maybe slightly below, slightly above, 544 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: somewhere in that range, but he's never going to be 545 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: a player that we're gonna go out there and believe 546 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna win championships because of Now what do we do? 547 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: I I've been in this situation, right, I've been in 548 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: the best of situations that I've been in this situation 549 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: and until you here's what you have to it's tell 550 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: the truth, tell yourself the truth, tell your people the truth, 551 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: and understand that you've got to do something to improve 552 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: that position. However, you can't make things up in your mind, 553 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: just like you can't lie to yourself as to what 554 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: level your quarterback is. But you can't just go out 555 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: there and make stuff up either. You know, Dan Quinn 556 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: used to have a saying, hey, don't go make stuff up, 557 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's a big part of 558 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: it too. However, you may have a plan, you create 559 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: a plan, you have, but you have to have opportunity 560 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: that meets your plan. Just because you say, oh, we 561 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: have to replace the quarterback. Great. You know again, I 562 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: remember Parcels would would say, I would sit in those 563 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: meetings he would have with coaches, and coaches would complain 564 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: about players and this guy is not good enough. We 565 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: got to get better here, Parcels a bit great, I 566 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: want to cut him. What's your solution? Right, you can't 567 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: double down on the problem that you have. And again 568 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: we go back to this. We've talked about this a 569 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: number of times this year. There's only a small number 570 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: of elite quarterbacks in this league. And if you don't 571 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback, you have to do the job. 572 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: And there's been quarterbacks out of one that we're not elite. 573 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: And again this is not a criticism of any of 574 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: those players. Brad Johnson was not an elite quarterback, but 575 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: he won a Super Bowl. He was good enough to win. 576 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, I don't I think Joe Flacca had flashes 577 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: of of elite play and moments of I wouldn't say, 578 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: and we can go through this list and find this list. 579 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: So what you need to do is build a superior 580 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: team around it. Again, I go back to two thousand one. 581 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was not an elite quarterback in two thousand one. 582 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: He did not perform lead. He was Again if we 583 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: talk about the reality, but what we had was we 584 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: had a tremendous defense. We had an opportunistic defense. We 585 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: had an opportunistic group of people on special teams that 586 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: created plays and situations and circumstances. We had Antoine Smith 587 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: who ran for I think eleven hundred yards and in 588 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: critical time of the year and in critical moments he 589 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: knocked people out. So not everyone is going to have 590 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: an elite quarterback. You have to figure out a way 591 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: to build a team until you get in a situation 592 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: or a circumstance where you can get that guy. Scott, 593 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you, this is it for 594 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: the teams that had the elite guy's congratulations thumbs up, awesome, 595 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: there's five of you know what, five of them, you know, 596 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: give or take one, you know, something like that. So 597 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: you've got six of them, and the teams that have 598 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the good quarterbacks that I I think there's probably a 599 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, ten really good quarterbacks in the league that 600 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: again I think they become great if they got great 601 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: play call or healthy all that stuff whatever. Um is 602 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: the question, do you guys ever sit there and go, Okay, 603 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: we got a good guy. What's like I guess the 604 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: risk analysis that cost analysis to say we want to 605 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: go chase a great one, like we gotta go chase 606 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: down trying to find a great one and move on 607 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: from the good or the really good that we win 608 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of games with, to go chase down a 609 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: guy that we win a lot of games because of. 610 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: And you know, Dan, that's that is the big question, 611 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: because if you give up too much capital in order 612 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: to land that good guy from somewhere else, then you 613 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: can't build, you know, you can't build the team. And 614 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: if someone's gonna let it, let a great one, I 615 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: don't know how many times someone have let you know, 616 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: teams have let a great one go, which means that 617 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to fill your team around them, and 618 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: then you no longer have the capital. You know, Bob, 619 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: you you you'll understand this too. I go back to 620 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: I was with the Jets. We had Vinnie Testaverdy. I 621 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: love Vinny. Vinny is one of my favorite players of 622 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: all time. And people Vinny was not an elite quarterback. 623 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that Vinnie had tremendous seasons that season. He 624 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: was spectacular. But what we had that year was an 625 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: incredible defense. We were smart, we ran the ball well. 626 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: We you know, we did a lot of high percentage throws, 627 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: and we had a good defense. We had an opportunistic 628 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: special teams. We made plays when we had to make plays. 629 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: But we had a very good team. I go back 630 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: to two thousand and ten when we were at the 631 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Matt Castle has a season where he 632 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: throws for twenty seven touchdowns only seven interceptions. Matt Castle 633 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: was not a great quarterback. No one ever said that. 634 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: No one ever believed that we were good enough. And 635 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: we had a good defense that year. We had good leadership, 636 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: we had good makeup in the locker room, and we 637 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: won football games. And you know it. You have that window, 638 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: you have that chance, but there has to be a 639 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: lot of other things happening around you in order to 640 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: win games. Blake Spence blocked Upunt Mile High Stadium. We 641 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: were going to the Super Bowl, it was happening, and 642 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: uh yeah, all right here Championship games. Seriously that year, 643 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: those are the two best teams at that point in time. 644 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: And then the next year, if any test of every 645 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: opening game against the patriotsy tears Achilles, yep, and then 646 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: you guys left and ruined my life. So thanks for that, 647 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Uh look, we have the wild card games 648 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about later on in the week, 649 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: So on our Thursday edition when that trops, we are 650 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: going to talk about all the matchups and the big 651 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: matchups coming up next weekend. 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Welcome back 686 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: to tape heads. I'm not sure how we break the 687 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: tape down of a quarterback sneak from like close to 688 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: the five yard line, but there is a play this 689 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: past week for us to break the tape down of 690 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak where there wasn't really too many players 691 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: on the quarterback sneak offense that we're that close to 692 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: the end zone. But Joe Judge, I guess backed it up. 693 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say after the Giants called 694 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: that play this past Sunday. So we're backed out. We 695 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: had a shot in the play action and get the 696 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: ball out in the flat. Okay, we gotta make the 697 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: throw and hit the guy right there. Eli was open. 698 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: There would have been a good shot coming off you 699 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: know the goal on there to give us some yards 700 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: and get some space and then ultimately, look we're backed up. 701 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: I want to get room. We're gonna push it on 702 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 1: for it. I wasn't gonna live through what happened last 703 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: last week in Chicago. So we're gonna give ourselves room 704 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: for the punt. We did that. We gave ourselves room 705 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: for the point. We protected it, We covered well. We 706 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: played the field position situation I want to play. We 707 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: held them on the next drive, and that's why we 708 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: want to go ahead and play that now. We want 709 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: to do that all the time. We're backed up, No, 710 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: but that was a situation the day with where we were, 711 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that you know the 712 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: things that we had issues with last week in Chicago, 713 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: that that was not going to repeat itself, he said. 714 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: Ultimately we were backed up. I don't know how. I 715 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a quarterback sneak called just 716 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: trying to give yourself some real estate from the end zone, 717 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: maybe past like inside the yard and a half or 718 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: two yard line. But then, I know you had some 719 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: pretty strong thoughts when you saw the Giants at the 720 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: end of a season. That is a foregone conclusion. But 721 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: what were they playing for call a quarterback sneak to 722 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: then punt from you know, close to the five yard line. Yeah, 723 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: I just think it's really difficult to do that to 724 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: your football team and justify that the actions as a coach. Um, 725 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: I think that in that situation, you're you don't have 726 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: many guys that are on the field that have a 727 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: ton of experience and and is certainly in that situation, 728 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of plays you can call that are 729 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: very safe. You can call draw, you can call just 730 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: a simple run play. You can call perimeter screen. Um, 731 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: you could just drop back and throw it, go route 732 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: to a receiver and say, let's see what happens. Because 733 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: third and nine quarterback sneak is just sending a very 734 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: clear message to your team that we aren't trying to 735 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: put you guys in positions to play well or have 736 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: the optimum success. And um, we're we're playing not to 737 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: make a mistake rather than to win. And I think 738 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: it's difficult for a coach. I've spent my life in 739 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: a locker room, my whole life. I grew up in 740 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: a locker room. I think it's very difficult for a 741 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: coach to say one thing and do another thing. One 742 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I love of two coaches like 743 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak and Jim Caldwell. These guys never did something 744 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: contrary to what they said, and they were the same 745 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: person over and over, good or bad, win or loss. 746 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: And I think when Joe Judge stands there and says, 747 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: we are always going to play as hard as we 748 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: can for sixty minutes, We're never going to disrespect the game, 749 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: and we will play to the identity of this region. 750 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: And you do that on the field, those two things 751 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: don't ALIGNE and you, guys who have spent the great 752 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: majority of your life around this game. I think the 753 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: number one thing that players can sniff out and turn 754 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: them away is the feeling of phoniness. And that's what 755 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: that feels like now. Is just this, this this phony um. 756 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: And I don't want to like go at Joe Judge here, 757 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: but like this, it's hard for me as a player 758 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: to sit there and believe all the things that you 759 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: are going to say to me when I have visual, 760 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: eye witness accounts of the contrary. I've got friends on 761 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: that team that I've actually I've I've asked them the question, um, 762 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: what do you think of them? And I'll be honest 763 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: with you, like I think the everyone, at least the 764 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: overwhelming of them have had somewhat of a relatively positive 765 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: response like nothing. No one came back. I was like, 766 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: this guy's a joke or whatever. You know, most of them. Again, 767 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: I think everyone came back and had something like a 768 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: relative like, you know what, he's not as bad um. 769 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: I just think this, Scott. I think it's really difficult 770 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: two as a player. When you you as a coach, 771 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: ask and ask and ask and say and set a 772 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: standard of this is how we are going to do things. 773 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're twelve or you're thirty two, 774 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: and then you the coach, don't have your actions follow 775 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: that on a relatively consistent basis. I feel over the 776 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: last five weeks, I think that when you just lose 777 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: professionals like you just lose them, so to speak, professionals 778 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: are are are different in a way. I feel that way. 779 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: You know that, and that's I think it's difficult to 780 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: to kind of walk back into that locker room and 781 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to say by everything that he's selling, 782 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: but unwaveringly trust in him that he's gonna do it's 783 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: best for you and for the team. You know what 784 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Especially in football like this sport in particular, 785 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: it is an army. The general at the head of 786 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: that army needs to have the belief of that army 787 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: behind them that we're being led the right way. I 788 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: think the other pro sports look, they're coaching matters in 789 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: every sport to varying degrees and probably makes differences to 790 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: varying degrees. I think the head coach and football probably 791 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: makes the biggest difference for a franchise moving forward. And 792 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: we'll see how the Giants move forward. But that isn't 793 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: for the regular season. Because we say goodbye to eighteen teams. 794 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: We've got four team that are moving on as we 795 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: say hello to the postseason. When our next episode drops 796 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: on Thursday, we're gonna get to a super wild Card 797 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: weekend coming up. 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