1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the third hour of The 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. As promised, we're now 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: joined by our friend Donald Trump Junior to talk about 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: the latest with the raid on the Trump residence of 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Moral Lago, what comes next, what his expectations are for 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the judge hearing tomorrow about the affidavit. Don, great to 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: have you joined us as always, Thanks for making the 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: time great to be with you. Guys. How's it going today? 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: So can you just send me Don, I've known you 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: a long time. Your dad's home. I mean, yes, it's 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: a club, but it's also your family home. It's rated 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: by dozens of FBI guys. Your father is a former 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: president of the United States. What's the first stuff that 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: goes through your head? I mean, what do you think 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: when this is going on? Well, you know, honestly, I 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: know this is not a normal response. But you know, 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: for me at this point, given all they've done and 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: all they haven't done on the other side, you know, 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: nothing at surprises me anymore. I mean, it's obviously disgusting, 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: it's insane when you look at all of the things 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: they don't investigate on the other side, whether it's Hillary 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Clinton emails, whether it's Hillary Clinton's team taking fledgehammers to blackberries, 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: whether it's Hunter in China, Hunter in Ukraine, Hunter with 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: coke and the Russian mob and pedophile rings or whatever 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: that you know, it's sort of mind boggling. And they 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: go after Donald Trump would an incredibly broad search warrant 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: issued by a magistrate who's a big time Obama donor 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: who also happened to be Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer. Like, I 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: just don't believe in coincidence anymore when you look at 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: the facts that you know, I can't imagine anyone actually 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: thinks that this is all coincidence. Beyond that, I thought 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: it was disgusting that I get to hear the FBI 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: did it with the Hostage Rescue Team the HRT, Like 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: that's like the Navy Seals of federal law enforcement. For 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: those who don't know, and I understand the narrative, you know, 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: a few short weeks ago was that Donald Trump, at 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: seventy five, managed to choke out two very young, fit, 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: heavily armed Secrets IRVIS agents to be able to take 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: over the beast to join the rally in support of 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: his fans on January sixth. And you know, it seems 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: like the person who said that may have perjured herself, 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: especially since the January six committee had no interest in 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: actually hearing from the Secret Service agents that would refute that. 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: But you can't help but wonder and or just frankly, 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: just know that it's an intimidation tactic. This is what 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: they will do if you question their authority. These are 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: the things that they will do to you. And you know, 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump maybe has the means to cover lawyers and 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but it's not meant as a call 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: just to Donald Trump. It's meant as a call to 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: anyone who would question, you know, the authority of so 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: many of these unelected officials. And it's absolutely disgusting at 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: this point. Thanks for coming on, Don Junior. I'm curious, 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: how in the world have you gotten any explanation. Is 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: it possible for your dad's passports to get seized if 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: this was supposed to be a very targeted search, right, 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: that's the argument that they made. It was very very 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: detail oriented. It was very specific in terms of what 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: they were looking for. Have they explained how that's possible 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: because passports are pretty noticeable. Well because they say that, 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's just like what they say on TV 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's actually true. Right. They took picture books, 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: they took all sorts of things there, you know, reading 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: Milania's closet. Apparently if you know, these would not seem 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: to be places you'd be going or things you'd be 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: confiscating under a very narrow warrant. But that's all nonsense, right, 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: That's what they do when they lose control of their narrative, guys. 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: They go to their reliable sources in the media. They 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: leak out some faulty information that those people run with 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: blind without questioning, just like Nora O'Donnell did with no, no, No, 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: they didn't in fact Trump's passports. Now, had she actually 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: called us, we would have been like, here, here's the email. 74 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: But she didn't bother to do that. She heard a 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: narrative that she wanted you could you could really you 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: could own Trump. You know, he he's wrong. It turns out, well, 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent right. And CBS News now has 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: egg on their face. That original tweet was still up 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty four hours after it was disproven because it was 80 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: going viral and they're getting the clickbait that they want, 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: so you know, they're not even under the pretense of 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: objectivity or trying to report real news. So none of 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: this should surprise us, right. You saw the same out 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: of you know, Merrick Garland, who said we want the 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: utmost in transparency. So my father releases the warrant, says, okay, 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: now you guys release the affidavit. Wh wow. You know 87 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: we can't do that, you know. So they say they 88 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: want transparency, but they do exactly nothing to prove that. 89 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: Christopher Ray at the FBI, he does much of the same. 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare you question the FBI? These 91 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: are upstanding individuals, but if you've looked at their record 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: over the last few years, it seems like anyone that 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: they've been watching has gone on to commit atrocities in 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: the United States. They haven't prosecuted anyone you know on 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: the left for things that are far more flagrant than 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: anything they've even attempted to throw at Trump. Uh. They 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: have multiple agents that didn't even lose their jobs, falsifying 98 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: FISA warrants, lying under oath, misleading judges in trapping a 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: bunch of meth heads in a you know, seemingly staged 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer right before an election, because 101 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: you know, that's what they'd like to be able to 102 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: have a narrative out there, So you know, those things. 103 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, how does anyone have any faith in the 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: FBI anymore? I mean at this point, I've always I've 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: probably even done it on your Guys show. Guys, I've 106 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: always made the distinction between sort of the bureaucrats at 107 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: the top of the FBI who've been corrupted for generations, 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, and the door kickers, the guy's actually doing 109 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: the work. But you know, I really hope that you know, 110 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the people that apparently Jim Jordan and the whistleblowers that 111 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: have come forth, I hope that's real because at this point, 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: if all those things can go on, you know, they 113 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: tell us there's equal justice under the law, and yet 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: there doesn't actually seem to me. I mean, it's a 115 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: wonderful down bye, but like, show me any evidence of that. 116 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: How could any sane individual watching what's going on for 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: the last five years think that there's even remotely equal 118 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: justice under law? You can you know, a pro tip 119 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: for life, A life hack would be just be a Democrat. 120 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: You can do whatever the hell you want. They'll leave 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: you alone. You can do whatever you want, no problems. 122 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: You'll actually get the benefit of the doubt, and then 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: someone they'll probably try to frame a Republican for whatever 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: it is that you were doing. It's laughable at this point, 125 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully it's just gotten so ridiculous that 126 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: even those who've sort of been agnostic to politics or 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: indifferent to politics are finally realizing what's going on in 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: America right now. By the way, the Nora O'Donnell tweet 129 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: where she said the FBI is not in possession of 130 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: the former president's passports and basically called your dad a 131 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: wire still up. No correction offered at all. I just 132 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: wanted to check that as we were talking to her. 133 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: No one on the socially ar and they're not going 134 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: to flag her for spreading misinformation? Is Norah O'Donnell like 135 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: she's she's a deliverer of our narrative. Uh, this is perfect, 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it doesn't have to be true. Now, 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'll get fact check for putting up something 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: that's you know, my opinion and they'll say, no, this 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: is demonstrably wrong for no reason other that I can 140 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: have an opinion. Uh. And you know they do that regularly. Uh. 141 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: So you know, of course that's up. It's generating clickbait. 142 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: It will continue to do so. Um, you know, And 143 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. We're speaking to uh for everybody 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: at home. We're speaking to Don Trump Junior about the 145 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Marlago raid, the lack of faith and the FBI that 146 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: I think all rational people now are feeling and Don 147 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to that end, how concerned are you they're going to 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: drop a federal indictment against your father? And have you 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: guys already talked about how you're going to circle the wagons? 150 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a lot of the people listening are 151 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: going to be right there with you. But what what's 152 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: that like right now? You know, I imagine that's what 153 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: they're looking to do. I mean to me, I mean, 154 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: there's no other explanations that you know for this kind 155 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: of nonsense. Then they're trying to prevent him from running 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: because they see Donald Trump as the only real threat 157 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: to the hegemony that the bureaucrats have been able to, 158 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, form in the US government, where they have 159 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: the ultimate power, especially the unelected ones. And you know, 160 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's the only guy that's a threat to that. 161 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't need, uh, you know, the money of the 162 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: donor class. He doesn't have to be beholden. You know. 163 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: They want to go back to, you know, a president 164 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: that uh you know, picks up the phone whenever they 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: call and says, okay, we'll do whatever it is that 166 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: you want, because they they know they have the ultimate control. 167 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: They know they don't have that control over Donald Trump, 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: and that's that's ultimately what they're missing, which is why 169 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we're seeing these sort of desperate attempts. 170 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, I don't think anyone, any thinking, 171 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: any sentient being can watch what's gone on for quite 172 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: some time, but especially as of late and be like, 173 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: you know that that's of course what they're trying to do. 174 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: They're trying to essentially disqualify their biggest threat again, not 175 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: to democracy as they like to pretend, because they're certainly 176 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: not acting like they live in a democracy. They're acting 177 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: like they live in a fascist dictatorship or a banana republic. 178 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: That's just fact at this point, and they see him 179 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: as the threat so they're going to do whatever they 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: can to eliminate that threat. So again, at this point, 181 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: nothing surprises me. You know, I I've probably gotten uncomfortably 182 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: numb to these things. I wish I didn't, because you know, 183 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, you can only experience the same 184 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: nonsense so many times before you get a little bit 185 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: immune to what would be a typical emotional response to something. 186 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: But you know, we will fight, We will do what 187 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: we always do. The people are getting it more and more. 188 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: And what's really interesting is, you know, I've seen it 189 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: across the country and I think you guys know, I 190 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in real America, probably more 191 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: than any actual Republican out there all over the country. 192 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: And this sentiment in the last few weeks has just 193 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: been incredible. I mean it always has been. We've never 194 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: that's never changed with the base. Again, you see it 195 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: in sort of you know, the may stream even mainstream 196 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: conservative publication. You know, they too want someone answers to them, 197 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: not a Donald Trump. You see that a little bit 198 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: with the donor class. You know, they want a president 199 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: when when the donor says jump, the president says how high? 200 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: They're never going to get that from Trump, but with 201 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: the actual base, with the voters, it's it's more solid 202 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: than probably ever because they see it, you can't hide 203 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: from it. They understand just how fragile our democracy actually is. 204 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: They understand just how effective my father's policies were. They 205 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: understand that he was able to implement those policies with frankly, 206 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: very little help even from many Republicans, and against unprecedented 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: incoming from Democrats in the media, you know, and they 208 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: understand just how quickly those freedoms, uh, those economic benefits, 209 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: all of those things that he was able to achieve 210 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: can also disappear, because we're seeing that before our very 211 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: eyes under this administration. Again, that's not Joe Biden. We 212 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: always got to be clear, what we are seeing that's 213 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: destroying our country is Democrat policy. They are doing all 214 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of the things that they said they were going to do, 215 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: and you know, we get to unfortunately suffer the consequences 216 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: of those decisions. We're talking to Donald Trump Junior with 217 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: all of this in mind. I know there's been a 218 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: debate about when your dad should announce he is twenty 219 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: twenty four campaign. How do you think this raid impacts 220 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: that timing? If at all, when would you like to 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: see him announce that he's going to run for president 222 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four? You know, I don't know. I 223 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: don't know that it matters too much. There's a lot 224 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: of theories on that. I'm not you know, I could 225 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: probably come up with arguments for or against, you know, 226 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: either right now. You know, I don't think it matters necessarily. 227 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's going to do what he's 228 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: going to do when the time's right. I think he's 229 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: very honest with himself. He's not going to do it. 230 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: If it you know, if he wakes up one morning 231 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and feels like Joe Biden looks, you know, he wouldn't 232 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: do it, you know what I mean. But the reality 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: is he's still until we have enough of a Republican 234 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: bench that can truly stand up to all of those things. 235 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people that talk a 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: big game, but you get throwing the full brunt of 237 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: the FBI and the deep stay of going after you, 238 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: it's a little different. Uh. You know, I truly believe 239 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: he's the only guy that can actually do that right 240 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: now that's actually still beholden to no one. And the 241 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: more they do this, I think the more the rest 242 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: of America realizes that as well. So uh, you know, 243 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: no question, Uh, he could do it now, and I 244 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: think it'd be you know, very welcome from um. So 245 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: many Americans who have been crushed as of late policies 246 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: are only gonna make it worse. Don I know, you 247 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: follow stuff closely, How certain are you one way or 248 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: the other that Joe Biden's actually even going to run again? 249 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's hard to like, it's almost hard 250 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: to believe. The only way I think he actually runs, 251 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: that's if the Democrats realize that their policies have been 252 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: so disastrous, you know, that they don't want to blow 253 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: one of their incredible prospects like Kamala Harris, who is 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, incredible orator, obviously a policy genius. Uh, totally 255 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: there for all of the right reasons because she checked 256 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: any boxes. Even if Joe Biden may have said almost 257 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: that vermatum, you know, or other brilliant, brilliant political figures 258 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: like Pete Boudha Gedge. You know, they may just use 259 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden as the cannon fodder to throw under the bus, 260 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: understanding that they've sort of created a situation that would 261 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: be very difficult for any Democrat to overcome. I mean, 262 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: I sort of feel like that's where they're at. I 263 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: imagine the House Republicans has certainly will have a good 264 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: November sent it's always going to be tight. There's just 265 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: not that many places to make a difference. And you know, 266 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: we know what will happen, right even if the House 267 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: if taken over by the Republicans, the media and the 268 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: Democrats will use the next two years, even if it's 269 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: Democrat policies, and even if Joe Biden has veto power 270 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: and all of these things to take two years to 271 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: blame everything and all of the woes that they've created 272 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: now on Republicans and you know, try to change that course. So, uh, 273 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: you know, a lot, a lot can still play out. 274 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: In my mind, you know, I hope he runs, you know, 275 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: kind of love the running. It's Hillary too, you know, 276 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: she seems to be dipping her toe back in there, 277 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: or or Kamal. It doesn't really matter. I mean I 278 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: look at I sort of always say that, you know, 279 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: it feels difficult that we don't have much of a 280 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: bench for that level. But you know, when I look 281 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: at them, they really have no bench either of people 282 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: who are actually competent and could change things. You know, 283 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,479 Speaker 1: now they have a multi trillion dollar you know, mainstream 284 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: media platform that will boost whoever it is that they choose. 285 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: That's obviously a huge advantage. They have a multi trillion 286 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: dollar you know, big tech enterprise that will do the 287 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: same and social So you know, we're working from a 288 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: deficit no matter what, because of sort of what they 289 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: can create, even if it's totally fake. You know, they've 290 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: done that with Kimala, They've done that with Pa Buddhajas, 291 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: They've done that with many Democrats. They did that frankly 292 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. You know, he was going to be 293 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: the voice of reason. He's an incredibly articulate person on 294 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: foreign policy. He wasn't going to end the American energy sector. 295 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: That would be ridiculous. Even if he did those things 296 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: on day one, you know, they made sure the American 297 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: voters would assume that that would never happen. They lie 298 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: to your faces. You know, I gotta jump in on 299 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: this verbal fuse a lode of freedom because we're about 300 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: to hit our heartbreak. My friend, where should folks go 301 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: to follow what you're doing and stay in the fight. Yeah, listen, 302 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm everywhere. 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They're 356 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: gearing up for another school year right now, another year 357 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: taking federal handouts in the strings that come attached to 358 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: that money. One college not beholden to any federal mandate. 359 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: That's Hillsdale College. They've chosen to say no, thank you. 360 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: They don't accept federal student grant money or loans. 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That's Clay and Buck for Hillsdale dot Com. 371 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 372 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: We were right about so much when it comes to COVID, 373 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: and it's something it's quite a moment here to see 374 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: that after I've been saying the CDC was trying really 375 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: hard to beat out the fbile of the FBI just 376 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: sort of threw one into the end zone from distance here. 377 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: But the CDC was becoming the worst three letter agency 378 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: in the federal government, and I still think worse than 379 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: the irs, worse than anything else based on its mission 380 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: set and its competency or lack thereof that we've seen 381 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: during COVID. Now the CDC has announced just in the 382 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: last hour, what they are calling a shake up. This 383 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: is under Rachelle Wilenski's watch, under her tenure as CDC director. 384 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: A shake up because they say that it fell short 385 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: in its response to COVID nineteen. So it needs to 386 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: become more nimble. And she said to She told the 387 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: Associated Press, I was just just going to a a friendly news outlet. 388 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's my responsibility, Wilenski said, to lead 389 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: this agency to a better place. We saw during COVID 390 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: that CDC structures weren't designed to take an information digested 391 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: and disseminate it. That's a that's actually a health policy researcher. 392 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: Wilenski then said, it's not lost on me that we 393 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: fell short in many ways. We had some pretty public mistakes, 394 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: and so much of this effort was to hold up 395 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: the mirror and to understand where and how we could 396 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: do better. Let me say it's not okay for the 397 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: CDC to do an internal washing of its own laundry 398 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: and suggest that with better bureaucratic structure, with a few 399 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: more meetings, maybe some meetings about the meetings, maybe bring 400 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: in more bureaucrats. They've only got a what is it, 401 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: a twelve billion dollar budget and about ten thousand employees. 402 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: You know, maybe if they just if they just doubled that, 403 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: everything would all of a sudden be better. Clay, I 404 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: think the CDC failed in a way that it should 405 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: be torn down to the studs. All of its leadership 406 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: should be fired, It should be renamed something else. It 407 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: should be. It should have to go through lots of 408 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: congressional hearings to explain how they've sucked at their jobs 409 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: so badly because this little oh, we're gonna tink around 410 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: the edges, you know what this is going to turn into. 411 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: We just need more resources. Every bureaucracy just wants more resources. 412 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: That's my concern too when I see these headlines, and 413 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: here's what I think should happen. We should replace everyone 414 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: in a position of prominence at the CDC with anyone 415 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: who signed the Great Barrington Declaration that is interested in 416 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: serving and working at the CDC. And the reason for 417 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: people out there who have forgotten the CDC. After two 418 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: and a half years of COVID has basically finally reached 419 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: the conclusions that all of the signatories of the Great 420 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: Barrington Declaration reached years ago. And this is why I 421 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: get so frustrated about whether or not there are consequences. 422 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: There are consequences for whether you make good or bad decisions, 423 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: or there should be in a democracy. If you made 424 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: kids wear masks to school, as is still occurring in 425 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: Louisville and in Philadelphia and in San Diego and in 426 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: so many different parts of our country right now, if 427 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: you made that happen, or you continue to make it happen, 428 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have a job, because your most important job. 429 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: If you were in the teachers unions and you advocated 430 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: for schools shutting down, you shouldn't have a job anymore. 431 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: And my concern, Buck, is what you just kind of 432 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: elucidated there a bit, And we talked about earlier in 433 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: the program that he are just going to pretend that 434 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: none of this ever happened and hope that the distant 435 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: miss some memory sweep in and make people forget what 436 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: they were told. And the reason why I think this 437 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: is going to happen, Buck, is because there are so 438 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: many sheep out there who are willing to do this 439 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: already with the COVID shots. Do you notice, Buck, I 440 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: don't know if you ever jog in I go check 441 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: the mention sometimes and there anytime I post a COVID 442 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: related story and I say, hey, the shots don't really 443 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: stop or prevent the spread, which is one hundred percent true, 444 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: and don't make sense for young or healthy people, which 445 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: is also a one hundred percent true, and that we 446 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: were lied to, which we were, which is also one 447 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent true. Somebody comes in and says, we weren't 448 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: lied to. You don't understand how COVID vaccines work. All 449 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: they were designed to do is prevent hospitalization or death. 450 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: First of all, they're not stopping that either, But that 451 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: is the moved goalpost definition of what the COVID shots 452 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: are supposed to do. Because Buck you well remember, and 453 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: huge percentages of our audience remember that we were all 454 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: told by the CDC, by Rachelle Willinski, by Fauchi, by 455 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: the rachel Maddows of the world who carried their water, 456 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: you get this COVID shot, you will neither get nor 457 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: spread COVID ever again. And instead we found out that's 458 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent not true. Well, a lot of people 459 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: aren't even aware of what the original thing they said 460 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: anymore was, and so they buy into the moved goalpost 461 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: version of how to deal with the COVID shots. And 462 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: my concern is there aren't going to be any consequences 463 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: for these people who got it wrong. They're gonna be 464 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: billions of dollars in rewards for the Maderna and the 465 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Fizer and the Jay and Jay executives and the doctor 466 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: Fauci's of the world are going to ride off into 467 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the sunset on an entire collection of honorary degrees where 468 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: they're considered to be savants. That shouldn't be possible in 469 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: a democracy where consequences should matter when it comes to judgments. 470 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I've said it before him, and it keeps saying it 471 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: every day intel election day that I can remember to. 472 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Based on the COVID madness alone, Democrats deserve to lose all, 473 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: honestly all political power in this country. But we know 474 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. They certainly deserve to lose 475 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: the control of the House and the Senate, though, and 476 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the Biden administration eventually must be held responsible for this. 477 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that they were wrong, and I think 478 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: this is so important as well, Clay, there was a 479 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: viciousness to it. There was a the country's upset. Let's 480 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: blame our political opponents. Let's blame the other side for 481 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: this virus that you know was very dangerous to elderly people. 482 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: It was not very dangerous to everybody else. It was 483 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: dangerous to the elderly. And they turned it into if 484 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: you don't do what we say, you're killing people. I mean, 485 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, would straight up 486 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: say it's like you want grandma to die. If you'd 487 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: all want grandma to die, you better get the shot. 488 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: And we would sit here and say, what kind of 489 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: moral blackmail is this? This is crazy. So they were 490 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: nasty about it too. They not only used force, they 491 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: really tried to go after and destroy the reputations of 492 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: people who disagreed with them. And it was a test 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: drive of authoritarianism. Folks. I hate to be the one 494 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: that breaks it to you. But whether it's on climate, 495 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: or it's on racial justice, or it's on COVID, if 496 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: democrats can come up with some moralistic excuse for absolute 497 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: control over your life, they will take it with no 498 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: if ands or butts, no compunction. That's what they want. 499 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: You're right, and again I'm afraid they may escape consequence 500 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: for all of this, I really am, and I think 501 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: there's an argument that this is going to be the 502 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: great impact of the FBI rate on Trump is that 503 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: it takes away from COVID failure, inflation, border issues, the 504 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: murder rate in this country, certainly the economic dislocation that 505 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: so many have felt, all predicated on Joe Biden's poor 506 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: choices Afghanistan, which is a one year anniversary of when 507 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: most people finally decided Joe Biden's not up to the job. 508 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: What's going on in Ukraine. All of these are failures, 509 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: and instead of discussing all of this, a lot of 510 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: the discussion, I'm afraid over the next ninety days is 511 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: going to be all will there or won't there be 512 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: an indictment? And we're all going to be continuing to 513 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: talk about the raid, which is the ultimate way to 514 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: change the narrative and make the story Donald Trump as 515 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: opposed to Joe Biden, when almost all the time, the 516 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: midterms are a referendum on the party in power and 517 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, and that's Joe Biden, 518 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: who's been a disaster. 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That's eight hundred seven nine two three 547 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: two six nine, Try the slippers slides and send them 548 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate you 549 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: guys hanging out with us closing out the show here. 550 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: Gonna take a couple of your calls in a moment, 551 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: but I wanted to share this email that we got 552 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: from one of our Clay and Buck VIPs. You can 553 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: go sign up for the Clay and Buck VIP at 554 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com. Nancy writes in and says, 555 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Dear Clay and Buck, I'm still angry and bitter. I 556 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: was not permitted to be with my husband as he 557 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: lay dying because of COVID. No access permitted into the hospital. 558 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: Then I was not allowed to access the funeral home 559 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: to identify my husband's body. Everyone was so freaky about 560 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: COVID they did not even check my husband's body bag 561 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: and incinerated his glasses, phone, and wedding ring as well. 562 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: How horrible this time has been not only for me, 563 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: but for many other people. And I think what Nancy 564 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: is sharing there a lot of you experienced. Allowing and 565 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: forcing people who were dying in the hospital to not 566 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: be able to speak with their family members is to 567 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: me a crime against humanity. And you need to remember 568 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: who did that to you and how ineffective it was 569 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: in making anyone safe. And we can never ever allow 570 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: anything like this to occur again. Buck. I also, I mean, 571 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking you hear you hear these stories, you read them, 572 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: We get emails like this or mind every This is 573 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: why we stay on it because there's been no justice 574 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: for this. I mean, look at the CDC. They're gonna say, oh, yeah, sorry, 575 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: looks like we made a lot of mistakes. More taxpayer 576 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 1: dollars for us guaranteed, that's what they're going to say. 577 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: We need more personnel, more money, more research funding, more 578 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: propaganda funding, whatever, that's what they're going to say. Democrats 579 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: are taking victory laps over their COVID response. I mean, 580 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: there are people who are so delusional and so stupid, 581 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: you know. I tweeted out something yesterday Clay about masking 582 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: up children, including outside on the ground in the snow 583 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: in winter in New York City to mask up between bites. 584 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: That was in twenty twenty one. That wasn't even the 585 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: first year of the pandemic. There are people responding saying, 586 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: what's the big deal? She children didn't complain about it. 587 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: We told kids if they didn't wear this little face 588 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: covering that they would be killing grandma. Basically, I mean 589 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: when I say that was the official line in the 590 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: schools all across the country pretty much with a few exceptions. 591 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: And adults are still such idiots that they think that 592 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be ashamed of doing that. Really they have. 593 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: They have no feelings of remorse over what they did 594 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: to children. It's outrageous. Yeah, And look, there's a big 595 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: difference between having an occasionally wrong opinion. You can always 596 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: agree or disagree with any opinion you hear on the show. 597 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: We try to get all the facts right that are 598 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: based upon our opinions and the facts on COVID and masking, 599 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: and all of that data has been readily accessible for 600 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: anyone that wanted to see it for years now. And 601 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: there are still kids like I mentioned in Louisville, in Philadelphia, 602 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, in San Diego that are right now being 603 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: forced to wear masks, even though all of the data 604 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: demonstrates it is completely and utterly worthless. It is indefensible. 605 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: All right, much less serious, But thank you for the email, Nancy. 606 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: We got a couple of different calls we were going 607 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: to hit. We haven't hit he calls. Today, Let's go 608 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: to Lisa in Utah. We're coming out there later today. 609 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Bucket Eye are going to be out in the Utah. 610 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: What should we expect, Lisa. I've got some challenges for 611 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: you when you're at by Park City, go to the 612 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: Utah Olympic Park into extreme tubing, and I want you 613 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: to try and do the bob sled run or or 614 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: or extreme tubing. They're both awesome. So you know, wait, 615 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: hold on, ossa play it's important. I mean, is there 616 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: like not so extreme tubing because extreme tubing sounds like 617 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: something I might want to build up to. Hey, you 618 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: can go down the K nineties ski jump it's awesome 619 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: and we're going to take it down, but it's a blast. 620 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 1: My wife has been looking into a lot of these 621 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: events because we're taking out our seven year old with us, 622 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: our youngest kid, and a lot of the down the 623 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: mountain summer activities when you can't obviously do ski runs. 624 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: He is ecstatic about how fun some of this stuff 625 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: is going to be. So we've done the tubing on 626 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: the out of Park City. They have a bunch of 627 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: different places where you can too bright instead of sledding 628 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: on snow, but we haven't done it. We haven't been 629 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: out in the summer, so I'm pretty excited about this. 630 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 1: I've never I've never skied, you know ever, I've never 631 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: been on skis, and my wife tried to teach me. 632 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: I hit a tree and I was like, yeah, I 633 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: love every sport. But I was in my twenties and 634 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: I said if I injured myself skiing I would never 635 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: forgive myself because it's something that I didn't grow up doing. 636 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: The boys all are trained to know how to do 637 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: it now. Because my wife grew up in Michigan learned 638 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: how to ski and snowboard not my thing. I like 639 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: to hang out have drinks. Yeah, I'm great on a 640 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: ski trip, though, I'll make sure that I have all 641 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: the kens and creuded tay to doctor Oz. Ready. Back 642 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: at the lodge, I'll be sitting in the hot tub 643 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: drinking some bubbly. Maybe get a visit from the masseuse. 644 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: That's my version of a ski. Your fiance ski. I 645 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: don't think Carrie skis. I gotta ask her. I don't 646 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: think she's a I don't think she's a skier either, 647 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: because I knew I was signing up for some ski 648 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: trips when when I got married, because Laura is all in, 649 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: absolutely loves it, so she always want to get out 650 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: of Colorado Park City on laces. I have water skied, 651 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: which is surprisingly difficult. The first time you try it, 652 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: you see all these people doing it, You're like, that 653 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: can't be that hard. It's hard to get it. Actually, 654 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: it's kind of hearty hard. Jay in Texas, what you 655 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: got for us? Hey, guys, you've been right all along. 656 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: The CDC has lied to us through their teeth. I'm 657 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: a nurse practition nurse, certified first assist. I was a 658 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: Special Amphibious Reconnaissance corman for fifteen in my military twenty 659 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: years of military with three Coon and Marstock. They have 660 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: lied to us. We think that this is such a 661 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: new thing. Was covid. We've dealt with STARS twice before, 662 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: oh eight in twenty twelve. Corona based viruses, which is 663 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: what STARS is. We have never had a successful vaccine. 664 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: People do not understand. Corona based viruses are one of 665 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: the two main viruses that lead to the common cult. 666 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: They rapidly mutate. And being in the healthcare field, I 667 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: have seen what we've done. We've lied to these people. 668 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: We've lost our trust. It's it's horrible, you know. And 669 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: you hit on masking. I wear a mask for a living. 670 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: We don't wear a mask to keep us from spreading 671 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: a disease, and they all are we wear a mask. 672 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: We don't spit in you. Yep, that makes that makes 673 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: sense that I can understand. Jay, Thanks so much for 674 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: calling him man. Appreciate Thank you for your service too. 675 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: By the way, sir, our audience amazing, our raidens keeping 676 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: America together, no doubt. And the challenge that he hit 677 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: on Buck is, how do you get Americans to trust 678 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: again when there's been such an utter failure? Can trust us? 679 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: We promised that absolutely come give us a high five 680 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on 681 00:36:53,120 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: the front lines of seven