1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Five from st Antel College in Manchester in his right 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: now that we bring this world together, we need a 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Democrat who's willing to get out of fight we were 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna win. Is to bring everybody to our side in 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: this fight. This is Bloomberg Sound On. If you don't 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: think we can get this done, well we can. How 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: are we going to stand up for the people at 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: the United States together? Let's take back this country and 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: lead the world again. It's within our power to do 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: its Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin's Real Live from the 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential debate in new on Bloomberg Radio. We're gonna 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: get a cup of chowder. I'm in New England, Snowy Manchester, 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, were just hours from now. The last Democratic 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: presidential debate ahead of Tuesday's primary, is set to begin 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from St Anselm's College in the spin room floor. 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: We've got a team of all stars. Mattie Tuppler's down 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: in d C holding down the Ford for us, Kate 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Martell of The Hill Newspapers here and Scott Pherson, democratic strategist, 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: founder of the Liberty Square Group pr firm and the 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: Blue Lab, a local political candidate incubator Scott the year 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: was you were a press secretary, a young press secretary 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: from Boston, Massachusetts, advising then Senator Ted Kennedy who had 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: served for decades, and all of a sudden, he's got 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: to go on a debate stage against a Bostonite businessman 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: out of nowhere Republican from Bain Capital, Mitt Romney. What 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: do you tell Ted Kennedy last in the that would 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: be applicable tonight to the candidates who are on stage 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: trying to fight for the future of the Democratic Party. Sure, 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, fundamentally, obviously this is the biggest 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: stage right for presidential debate, but all debates fundamentally are 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: the same. And what I'm gonna be looking for tonight, 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: and I think what we were looking for back in 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: ninety four is that we're looking for the president who's 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: on the stage tonight, someone who's going to who's assuming 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: that you can look at that person and say, I 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: can see that person being the president of the United States. 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: And in ninety four, Kennedy had been in for several decades, 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: he was really overweight. Mit Romney was young and trim 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and looked like the future. And uh, I remember the 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: One of the big things we needed to do is 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: pick the size of the pick the podiums, because we 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: wanted it to be quite a large podium so that 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: he could stand behind it and they would minimize the difference. Wow. 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: But Kennedy really, you know, he got it and and 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: it was it was the closest the polls had been 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: and um, and he really schooled. I think that's a 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: general consensus mid Romney. UM. And so that's how you 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: beat a young upstart absolutely school them. You school them. 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's see if Joe Biden does that. And it's relatable 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: if you're Joe Biden and you're up against Pete Buddha Jedge, 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: or if you're Bernie Sanders and you're up against Pete 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Buddha Jedge and you're talking to working class voters around 53 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: this country who have been hammered since two thousand and eight, 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: regardless of which party you blame which, regardless of which 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: people you blame for that hammered by that that resonates 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: when a young guy comes out of nowhere and tries 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: to take your place. It's always those moments. I think, 58 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: you know, we remember it from from from debates pass 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: going back to Ronal Reagan. This is my microphone. Mr Green. 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: It's those times where you think that I get it, 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing I've been waiting for. And I 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: think people might be tuning into this debate tonight not 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: really knowing what they're looking for. And um, I think 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: it's the it's the job, having having been in these 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: rooms with with the minor more minor offices, where you've 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: got to distinguish yourself out on the out on the stage, 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: and we're looking for contrasts. We want to see contrast 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: between candidates. You know, Scott, I'm so grateful that you're 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: here because I could talk Kennedy stories all day and 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: I've got you for another hour tonight. So let's go 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: to Kate Martel shere course is a reporter at the Hill. 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: You grew up in New Hampshire. What is the mode? 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: What are you as you're back home? What are you noticing? 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: This race? Teams incredibly fluid, the Mommouth University Pole, the 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: electorate still saying that they're undecided. I mean New Hampshire. 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I take their job very seriously. Kate, Oh, we love it. 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: This is our time once every four years. Everyone comes up. Um, 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: but yes, I think I've been talking to neighbors and 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: people at the grocery store and everyone we run into, 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: and so many people are still undecided. And for the 81 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: people that I've talked to, it kind of puts people 82 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: into two categories. One, I'd say they're the Bernie Sanders supporters. 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: When you ask them why they like Bernie Sanders, they 84 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: rattle off five or six different policy areas that they like. 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: The other bigger category is people who just want to 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: beat Trump and they don't know who they want to support, 87 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: but they just know who is the candidate that can 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: actually be the president. So all these people are still 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: trying to kind of game the system, and that's why 90 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: these people want to see what's going to happen tonight. 91 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: Is there some contrasting point? Right? And these people are independence. 92 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: We know from the report that we just put out 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: today for the first time, and you know this from 94 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: being up in New Hampshire, there's going to be as 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: many independent voters in the Democratic primaries are going to 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: be Democrats. How do you figure that? Why is the 97 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: rules today that independents can vote? Well, it's it's I'm 98 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: from Chusetts, it's kind of maybe it's a Northeast thing 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: where the unenrolled voters in Massachusetts or a majority as 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: well over the Democratic Republican Party. I think there's this 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: independent streak here. We want to be independent. I think 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: there's a frankly a weakness in the Democratic Party and 103 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: so most people feel that they can, you know, kind 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: of hang off. These I think are largely Democratic leaning 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: UM voters, particularly from our our polling shows in presidential years. 106 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Were the Republican as the president the vote here, I 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: would be shocked if it wasn't really really robust and 108 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: maybe record breaking UM and those A because there's way 109 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: more independence in New Hampshire than they were twelve years ago. 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: And uh and frankly a lot of them were from 111 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: Massachusetts who maintained that independence of Patriots fans. Anyway, I 112 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: need a I need a cup of clam New England 113 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: clamp showder. I still haven't had any showder since I've 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: been up here. Uh, Mattie Dubbler, let's go down to 115 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: d C. Strong week for the president in terms of 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: job numbers. I don't want you to talk jobs yet. 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up, but I do want 118 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: you to talk about just as from from what you're 119 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: hearing from your Republican friends about you put it in 120 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: context for us, the i with the bacle, Troy Price, 121 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: the chairman of the Iowa Democratic Party, and then the 122 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: president getting acquitted. What are you hearing from Republicans down there? 123 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: And d C Well, I think you heard from Cayton 124 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Scott both. They touched on the tension here that benefits 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: Republican and really puts Democrats at a disadvantage, which is 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: that each Democrat on that stage tonight is funding a 127 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: multifront war. The one benefit of coming out of Iowa 128 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: wind loser draw was that there at least would have 129 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: been somewhat of a hierarchy, right, and so that if 130 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: you're a candidate, you're one year, two year three, you 131 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: at least know who you're punching. It is now it 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: is still a wide open field and it is very 133 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: very difficult Kate mention those two buckets, that one bucket 134 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: being who can beat Trump. It is so difficult for 135 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: these guys to be to be talking about Trump right 136 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: now because of the good economic data. I mean this week, 137 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: not just the jobs report today, We've had gangbuster economic 138 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: data day in and day out. The picture for the 139 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: President looks really really positive and really really strong. So 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: if you're a Democrat going into New Hampshire and you 141 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: don't even know who you need to be pointing your 142 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: fire out in the Democratic primary, you're gonna have a 143 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: really hard time trying to mount a contrasting vision with 144 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: the President, much as everyone else who sharing that stage 145 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: with you. You're so right about that, Maddie. And I 146 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: think the Canada that comes to mind that's going to 147 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: be the most interesting there is former Vice President Joe Biden. 148 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: He came in fourth in Iowa and this is now 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: his This has to be if he doesn't come in 150 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: the top two in New Hampshire, and I think top 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: two only if Bernie Sanders likely possibly Warren one of 152 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: the progressives coming first. But if he doesn't come and 153 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: talk to otherwise, and his beat by any moderate, I 154 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: don't see how he even makes it to South Carolina, 155 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: which is where you know he's hoping that he can 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: start racking up some delegates. Scott, you know the neighborhoods 157 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: better than anybody but the exception, and maybe kment Mark 158 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Telkish did grow up here. I'm not gonna pretend because 159 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: she grew up here State New Hampshire is Bernie Sanders 160 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: country wife. Well, you know, I can't actually speak to 161 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: why upstate New Hampshire is, but I can tell you 162 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: this that the you know, this, this this echotomy that 163 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: we have about people wanting a candidate who's gonna be 164 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. The Bernie Sanders people think that he's their candidate. 165 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: So where the broad swath of the Democratic electorate think 166 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: that he's absolutely not the candidate who's gonna be Donald Trump, 167 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: that he's polarizing, and that he might not be moderate 168 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: enough to attract the independent voters in New Hampshire in 169 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the general election. Um, the Bernie Sanders people are absolutely 170 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: can vinced that if we if we don't, if we're 171 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: not clear about our ideology, we're gonna lose. Coming up, 172 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about that economic divide. Plus the 173 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Mattie Duppler on Job Today, She's gonna break down all 174 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: of the numbers on Jobs Day. 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This is Sound On with Kevin's 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: a related live from the Democratic presidential debate in New 185 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Hampshire on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin Sierley, chief Washington correspondent 186 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. I'm here in snowy 187 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, and Mattie Douppler just sent me a text 188 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: in the break and said, Kevin, people are going to 189 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: be absolutely livid with you because you're saying chowder and 190 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: not chow. All I want is some New England clam chowder. 191 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: Maddie Doubler, you gotta drop that R a little bit more, alright. 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to fake it, but you 193 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: fake it? What do they say in the West Wing? 194 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Sorkins West Wing yet Aaron Sorkin's West Wing. You fake 195 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: it till you make it I'm here with Scott Pherson, 196 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: he is the former Press secretary to the late great 197 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Kennedy. And Kate Martel, who grew up in 198 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. She's in New Hampshire. And you were talking 199 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: to me in the break about this neighbor's argument. You're 200 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: also a reporter at the Hill. I should probably Bobs, 201 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: don't forget that part um you're anyway, the neighboring state 202 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: argument about Bernie Sanders doing better, Elizabeth Warren doing better 203 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: because they've got the nearby states. I don't know if 204 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I necessarily buy that. It's not like they can flood 205 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: the state with you know, crossing the border. Yeah. I 206 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: agree with you on that, Kevin. We're hearing that neighboring 207 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: state argument all the time, and all the time. I 208 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: think it's pretty bogus. I don't think that voters are 209 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire are just looking for somebody because oh 210 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: they're you know, neighboring state, were familiar with them. I 211 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: do think there might be one small point in there that, 212 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the way that New Englander's think that 213 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're like minded. But other than that, um, 214 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I think that's it I mean, in addition to I won't, 215 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I won't say because it's it's it's vaguely vulgar what 216 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: people in New Hampshire called people from Massachusetts. Don't I 217 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: like my job. We all know it, though. I really 218 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: don't think we need to do that, Scott. But the 219 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: people are listening that are very important. They're very want 220 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: to hear that language. You're very few different. You know, 221 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: people in Massachusetts pay pay income tax. People in New 222 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Hampshire pay income tax because they work in Massachusetts. And uh, 223 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: the only thing wrong with people from New Hampshire is 224 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: that they drive slowly in the left hand lane on 225 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: the highway and never see the never see the lane. 226 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: To people, other than that, I think they're pretty much 227 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: like minded in terms of the way that we're voting. 228 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go there. Hopefully y'all liked me. 229 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: Mattie Duppler this argument from an economic standpoint, I was 230 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: really struck by this. I mean, we're talking about it. Yesterday. 231 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: I bumped into Jeff Weaver, who's a senior advisor on 232 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Sanders presidential campaign here in st Anselm College st Anselm 233 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: University spin room where they're doing the ABC News Debate 234 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: and I and I asked him about that moment yesterday 235 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: where Senator Standers, at the press conference in his manchester 236 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Field office, was asked about Biden's criticism of him being 237 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: a Democratic socialist and whether or not it would all 238 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: but hand the election to Trump if Sanders was the nominee. 239 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Weavers said no. Jeff Weavers said, you know, from 240 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: an economic standpoint, it's about building a coalition. So, Maddie, 241 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: from your point as the former Republican House Community the 242 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: communications director for the House Republican Conference, tell me about 243 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: how you would interpret a Bernie Sanders nomination given that 244 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: he's a Democratic socialist. Right. Well, there's I think there's 245 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: two minds here. One is I think kind of this 246 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: um probably like this provado that you see little bit 247 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: from the Sanders camp, which is basically, well, Republicans call 248 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Democrats socialist. Anyways, you might as well just pick up 249 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: the mantel and run with it. Uh. And I think that, 250 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's a little bit of truth to that, 251 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: which is that in politics, of course, the message needs 252 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: to win, and Democrats right now are wrestling with this, 253 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: which is how progressive do you have to be? In 254 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: order to break ranks with what you think the base 255 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: is telling you is broken about Washington, to stand out 256 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: and to be the nominee. Now, the other side of 257 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: that argument is that socialism, even for all the flirtation 258 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: that we've seen both in the media and potentially amongst 259 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: young people, even though I have my skepticisms about that, um, 260 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: it won't play in the United States, the Land of 261 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: the Free, Home of the brave. I mean, you guys 262 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: are in New Hampshire, Live free or die. Socialism seems 263 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: to be at odds with what we as a country 264 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: have come to know and love, regardless of what your 265 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: political stripes are. And I think that that's part of 266 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: what the debate today and the continue debate moving into 267 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: these these early primary states will be, which is what 268 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: is that vision? At the end of the day, an 269 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: election is about what is the contrast and visions. It's 270 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: pretty clear what Republicans want to offer. Donald Trump is 271 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: going to release his budget next week. It's going to 272 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: be a blueprint for what he wants to offer the country, 273 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: and Democrats are trying to figure out what their response 274 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: will be. That's very, very difficult in a primary In 275 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: a primary setting, um. You know, I will tell you 276 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: as a Republican who survived twenty six team where we 277 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: had sixteen people running for president, which it seemed for 278 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: months and months and months and months we were never 279 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: gonna whittle that rate that that pulled down, it is 280 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: very difficult to be able to say this is what 281 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party stands for. And this is why that 282 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: contrast is important with Donald Trump. I had my doubts 283 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: that the the candidate who says socialism is the way 284 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: that we do that is going to be successful. Um. 285 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: But I do think that there is a hunger on 286 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: the Democratic side for something different, and that's why you 287 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: see someone like a Joe Biden performing so poorly in Iowa. Well, 288 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I think we need to look I guess no further 289 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: than the two thousand sixteen race where the Republicans nominated 290 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: somebody who really wasn't a member of the Republican Party, 291 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: and the party both in the primaries and then of 292 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: course in the general election embraced that new kind of Republicanism, 293 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: if you will. That's that looks a lot like just 294 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Trump is um uh to to me, And I think 295 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders um in some respects to the other side 296 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: of that same coin that that was the appeal. And 297 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: I think you know the statistically, there were number of 298 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders voters who voted for Donald Trump in the 299 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: general election. There's that commonality. Even though that you can 300 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: you can spend all day drawing the different contrast between 301 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: what they want to do the way they want to 302 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: do it is very appealing um to general election voters. 303 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I think the problem for Sanders is kind of twofold. 304 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: This morning at the at the Politics and Eggs breakfast, 305 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: he said we should be a big tent and if 306 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: he's the nominee, he's got to demonstrate that that that 307 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: that is. And frankly, the other part of the problem 308 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: is his people are not big tent people. They are 309 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: very much small people and they want this battle that 310 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: were sort of over the soul of the Democratic Party. 311 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: They want to remake it and um, and that's not 312 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: going to be sustainable. If you know, Republicans were very disciplined. 313 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: You could say, I think everyone at each party accuses 314 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the other being more disciplined than they are. But Republicans, right, 315 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: but but but but they did you know they if 316 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: if I wasn't with Trump, I was a never Trump 317 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: or I ended up voting for for Trump. Democrats have 318 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: to learn that, Kevin really quick. I can jump in 319 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: your breaking news NBC New Merist, NBC News Marist poll 320 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: just released just to hatt in my inbox that Bernie 321 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: Sanders and pe Boodh Jedge from main A top the 322 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Democratic field in New Hampshire just four days from the 323 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: state's primary. Sanders he's getting support from of likely Democratic 324 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: primary voters, Boodhi Jedge getting support from twenty one percent. Now, 325 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the separation of the two candidates within the poll's margin 326 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: of error a plus for five four point seven percentage points, 327 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: and they're followed by Elizabeth Warren a four percent and 328 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Biden at th percent. That's a two two percentage point 329 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: dip for Biden. Mind you, and uh, I just want 330 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: to I'm trying to look at this literally in real 331 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: time to see who's undecided. So we'll get to that 332 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: in a second. But you know, I mean, this race 333 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: still remains incredibly, incredibly fluid, as it would relate. The 334 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: fat news for bidicating quickly done. Who's survived him that 335 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: pole bad news for Wideness that if he didn't he 336 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't do well in Iowa, he doesn't do well in 337 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. It's hard to see a path forward for him. Wow, alright, 338 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: coming up much more from the panel. We will have 339 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: all of it with the All Star Panels. 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Well, 348 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe not Donald Trump wise a whole lot of the time. 349 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: And in fact, what I have read is SOMEBOS advisors 350 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: tell him that I will be the toughest candidate for 351 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: him to run against. That was said at Bernie Sanders 352 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: hitting the campaign show earlier today in the Granite state 353 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington cores monded 354 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. I'm in Manchester st 355 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: Anselm's College University, I mean in the spin room floor 356 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: for the ABC News Democratic presidential debate. You can listen 357 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: to that debate tonight on Bloomberg Radio and we'll be 358 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: giving giving you complete coverage and analysis. All Star panel 359 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: on Job Today. Matti Duppler down in d C. Senior 360 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: fellow at the National Taxpayers Union, former Coalitions director for 361 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: the House Republican Conference, Kate Martell of The Hill newspaper, 362 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: Scott Person, former spokesman for the late Senator Ted Kennedy, 363 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: and of course now he's the founder of the Liberty 364 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Square Group pr firm out of Boston and the Blue 365 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: Lab of Political, a local political Canada incubator. But Matt 366 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Nowers just walked in the map. Nowers previously of the 367 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: Trump administration State Department, and I mean now a congressional 368 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: candidate for New Hampshire's first District UH and former Senior 369 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: White House advisor for the State Department. I said that 370 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: already met. Good to see it. Welcome to your home, turf, welcome, 371 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: and there's no chowder. That's right when we're working on that, 372 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I hurt. Food was just put out in the back 373 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: over here where I didn't see that? What kind is there? Chowder? 374 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm always hungry mated Kevin, you know, keeps Kevi happy. 375 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Get me food in England hospitality. So there's cold, but 376 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: the hospitality is war. Where can seriously, where's the best 377 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: place to get chowder in Kevin? That's a dangerous question, 378 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: ask a political kid. That's like choosing your favorite child. 379 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: Who do you like? Wow? I gotta say that like 380 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Pats and Gino's where I'm from a Philly I was 381 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: going to say Geno's chowder house out in a shopdown 382 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: in Portsmouth is one of the most Gino's and Paul Portsmouth. 383 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: I missed Portsmouth. I haven't gotten there yet. Uh. Let 384 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Are you a Patriots fan now 385 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: that you're congressional candidate? I mean always been Pats fan? Sure? Why? 386 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I know? What's it like to win her Super Bowl? 387 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Cheating so many times? Oh? Come on, you know tough 388 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: questions from right? Yeah, we beat you guys like you 389 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: gotta be careful around here in these parts here all right, 390 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: surrounded by a bunch of like you know, these these 391 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: other reporters right out, so you might be in a 392 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: safe company, but go a few steps outside. Careful what 393 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: you say. I don't know. That's a tough industry. I'm 394 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: not sure. Are you a Pats fan, Kate? Yeah? Is 395 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: Brady gonna go to l A That would be so 396 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: much the Patriots thing to do? Call in, I want 397 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the exclusive. Can we all agree that we just don't 398 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: like cadell a report common ground. I actually think that 399 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: I shouldn't comment on this because I think I'm getting 400 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: a little two out there with the sports talk and 401 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna rein it in. We were able to get 402 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: some Pats and Eagles fans on the same side here. That's, 403 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, imagine what we can do in congress. Can imagine? 404 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask you that now our's congressional candidate Republican 405 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: for the first District of New Hampshire. How are you 406 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: How are you assessing the field as the Democrats are 407 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: trying to decide between Bernie and Bud. Yeah. Look, it's 408 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: it's a race between the left and the far left 409 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: right now, and I really don't think it matters which 410 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: candidate Democrats ultimately nominated. I think the president and his 411 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: record are so strong right now that's be tough for 412 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: any of them to beat him. But I'll tell you 413 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: I was at an event with Bernie Sanders earlier today. 414 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: I was I stopped by. I was driving by, actually 415 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: here at St Anselm's. I was literally driving by, and 416 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: so I said, why the heck, nacos see what the 417 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: socialist is gonna say? And so I I popped in 418 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: and everything I heard was everything that would totally undermine 419 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: what's happening, the progress that's happening here in New Hampshire. 420 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: What was this So you think go ahead, no intert 421 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna saying, you know, New Hampshire is record 422 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: low unemployment right now, and that's directly attributable to the 423 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: President's record as well as the record of governors New 424 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: New Um. You know, there's actually more jobs and there 425 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: are people seeking jobs right now. I don't think we 426 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: want to have a socialist revolution in the hands of 427 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders to try to undermine that. Are you at 428 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: risk of just labeling the party socialist? Socialist socialist so 429 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: that it loses its mustard or eight months from now now? 430 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Because I think you gotta look at what that actually means. Right. 431 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example. My opponent is in 432 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: this congression races Chris Pappas he's the first term Democrat. 433 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: He's voted with AOC nine percent the time and Plosi 434 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: literally one percent the time. But what does that mean. 435 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: It means he's actually voted to taxi in or, it 436 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: means he's voted to pave the way for a national 437 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: energy tax. It means that he's saddled up with a 438 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: part of the party that wants to take away people's 439 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: rights to choose their own healthcare and put them into 440 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: some one size fits all government socialist healthcare program, which, 441 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: by the way, we have seen here in New Hampshire 442 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: when we had problems with the v A under the 443 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: Obama administration, that they couldn't even run a healthcare system 444 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: for the one percent of America's heroes, let alone for 445 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: the of everyone else. Can I ask you a question 446 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: about Trump's rhetoric because a lot of there are a 447 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of independent voters in the live free your Die state. 448 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Matt Mauer's congressional candidate for Republicans in New Hampshire's first district, 449 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: who who you know? The tour because they don't like 450 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: the rhetoric of Trump. But then they might not like 451 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the economic messaging of Sanders. What do you say to 452 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: those undecided voters. I think people are really impressed with 453 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: results at the end of the day. You know, you 454 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: talked about the facts. Look, I was at the State 455 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Department for two years, like you mentioned, under the president, 456 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: and you think about how much our our foreign policy 457 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: has changed between administrations. Right, instead of sending a bunch 458 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: of cash on a plane to a bunch of thugs 459 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: in Tehran, what were we doing. Instead, we were designating 460 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: their militia as a radical um terrorist group, and then 461 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: we were taking out the leader of that militia. We 462 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: actually turned the page on North Korea policy from a 463 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: policy of strategic patients, which I think meant strategically and 464 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: patiently waiting from the development nuclear weapon to actually engaging 465 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: with them and bring us closer peace than we's out 466 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: we've ever been. And then you look at the economic 467 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: results that we've talked about, record low unemployment four oh 468 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: one case are going up, wage growth is going up 469 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: for the first time in a generation. There's a lot 470 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: for people to, you know, really be proud of our 471 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: country right now. I don't think people want to turn 472 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: the page. Scott first, and I mean I'm not gonna 473 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: ask you. I don't want you to to debate that's 474 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: not that kind of show. But you hear that, you 475 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: hear what the Republicans are saying in the granted state, 476 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: that's a tough message debate for How do you how 477 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: did Democrats keep independent voters with the message like that? Well, 478 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this district is really, really interesting. I think 479 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: it may be the only district historically that flipped every 480 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: two years. It's a record mount and record number of 481 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: changes in party, yet it's about as uh as evenly 482 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: as as possible. And just speak from Massachusetts, not not 483 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: obviously being from New Hampshire, but you know, Governor Baker 484 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: has taken this sort of moderate tone. I think he 485 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: speaks to the electorate in Massachusetts. Um, and we're happy 486 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. Not me particularly to vote for a Republican, 487 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: but certainly a majority a couple of times in Franko 488 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: Att of Democrats voted for Charlie Baker this last go around. 489 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: And the economies and both states are really good. So 490 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: I guess the only thing I pushed back on is, 491 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the district, does a sort 492 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: of a strident message match the electorate, but you're running 493 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: the campaign. So that's that's what you've seen, and that's 494 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: exactly I think what the race is going to be 495 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: about is that we're going to be trying to see 496 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire all these independent voters which way that 497 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: they go. And I think you're making interesting point, Kevin, 498 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: that you're saying it's a it's a tough message for Democrats. 499 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: How are they gonna try to pull in some of 500 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: these independent voters because it's not just this primary that 501 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: matters in New Hampshire. New Hampshire is a purple state 502 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: now and there's so many independent voters even in Novembment, 503 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: and you know, the President actually won my district. He 504 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: won my district in because you have a lot of 505 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: people felt like they're left behind by the economy and 506 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: the economic policies and less administration and by the way 507 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: of administrations before that at both parties, um and so 508 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: now they're actually back to work, they're earning money, their 509 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: families are happy, and uh that that's going to be 510 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: what ultimately people, Is this a national election for you 511 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: or is it does it isn't local? Meaning is the 512 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: messaging much more If there's this trend down in d C. 513 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Where everyone says, oh, politics is becoming less localized because 514 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: of of what's going on, you know, with the cable 515 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: news and ever, and people are running national campaigns. But 516 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: do you have sense that when you talk to people 517 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: that they're asking you more about Trump or they asking 518 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: you more about you know, the school district. Now, I mean, 519 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: I think people are really concerned with what they're seeing 520 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: down in Congress right really. I mean, so I've been 521 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: all I only launched my campaign three weeks ago, been 522 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: all over the district. Um. I'll give you a great 523 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: example is that mary Ann's Diner and Derry just about 524 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. What you get what 525 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: I got, the red, White and Blue special, don't yeah, 526 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: don't tell my doctor. Yesterday I got at the Red 527 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: Arrow Diner. I got on French toast. That was stuff 528 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: with sticky butts, delicious. We're not gonna rat you out 529 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: to your knocker either. I mean, hey, doc, I'm still 530 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: here in Manchester. Go ahead, so you know, I'm going 531 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: around table to table, and what folks have said to 532 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: me is that they are really concerned with what they're 533 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: seeing because they feel like their freedoms are being taken 534 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: away by Congress. You know, this is a state that 535 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: respects Second Amendment rights. This is a state that doesn't 536 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: want to have some big takeover of their healthcare plan. 537 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: And so what you're seeing is that because of the 538 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: way Congress has been acting, I think that's exascerbated if 539 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: you look at how it's acted this past week of 540 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi tearing up the State of the Union behind 541 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: the president. You know, they're just sick and tired with 542 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: the showmanship down there, and they want to say, say, 543 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: what the heck are they actually doing? What are they accomplishing? Um. 544 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: You know, we've wasted millions of dollars and countless hours 545 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: on these impeachment hearings. Yet they're not doing anything to 546 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: improve healthcare for veterans. They're not doing anything to lower 547 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: prescription drug prices. They're not doing anything to work with 548 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: the President on issues that matter, like building the wall, 549 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 1: which would actually stop the influxible legal drugs. All right, 550 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: you can't to mind table. I'd be like down, let's 551 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: eat coming up much more panal reaction. Matt Ours. Thank you. 552 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: This is the first time you've been on since you 553 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: and it's announcing so do you miss d see it 554 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: all or you kind of It's good to be home. Yeah, 555 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: I'd like being New Hampshire. I got DC as little 556 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: as possible right now, Hey, get know you gotta We'll 557 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: leave it there. Matt Mowers, the Patriots fan. But hey, 558 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Ronne for Congress in New Hampshire's first congressional district coming up. 559 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: Matti Duppler breaks down the jobs numbers and it was 560 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: a strong job to day. Matti Duppler has been ready 561 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: for to dissect the job's number all day. I'm Kevin Cereli, 562 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent f for Bloomberg TV and Radio, and 563 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg One. This is Sound On with 564 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, live from the Democratic presidential debate in New 565 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: Hampshire on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin Cereli, chief Washington correspondent 566 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg TV and Radio. I mean same as here 567 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: at the debate spin room floor. ABC News putting on 568 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: the spin room, putting on the debate. In just a 569 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: few short hours, we're gonna have those candidates up there 570 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: the last debate, the last time they can make their 571 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: impression for there before the primary. On Tuesday, and let's 572 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: not forget about job to day folks, and and and 573 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: now it's time for my favorite part of the show, 574 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: where our panelists tell us their quick take on their radar. 575 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: And we've got a great panel today, by the way. 576 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Kate Martell, New Hampshire native, national political reporter at the Hill, 577 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: author of something I read every day midday, The Hills 578 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: twelve thirty report. Kate, first time on the show. Would 579 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: you come back? Absolutely good? Thank you. You've made a 580 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: lot of comments about the patriots, but I hate we 581 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: can that's like a threat of the show, the new 582 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: England Patriots or cheaters. Scott Ferston's here, Democratic strategist and 583 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: founder of the Liberty Square Group pr firm. Second time 584 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: on in one week, right you know, yeah, yeah, all right. 585 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: And the Maddie Duppler on Job's Day, Senior fellow at 586 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: the National Taxpayers Union, former Coalitions director for the House 587 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Republican Conference. Maddie Job's Day two d and twenty five 588 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: job added to the U S economy in the month 589 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: of January. This is your quick take, This is what's 590 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: on your radar. It's your time to tell us the 591 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: jobs report. That's right, kevinet's my favorite Friday. That was amazing. 592 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: You built me up. You made me feel like I 593 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: was here in our job's day, and that's exactly what 594 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna You got to make the economic indicators interesting. 595 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead, mad at your turn. Well, and they are interesting, right, 596 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you and I agree, but it's I feel 597 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: like it's my my time spent on earth is going 598 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: to be trying to convince other people that that is 599 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: the case. But the expectation was a hundred and sixty 600 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: thousand jobs, two thousand jobs added instead, blue expectations out 601 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: of the water. Uh. There were revisions for last two 602 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: months as well, which brought the three month moving average 603 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: to two thousand jobs. That's way above what we need 604 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: to keep pace with population growth. So overall employment picture 605 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: still looks really strong. That has been a hallmark of 606 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: this recovery, and particularly over the last several years, that 607 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: the employment picture continues to get better, even though the 608 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: experts tell us that they think that we're we're hitting 609 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: the peak of where we can go. So the question 610 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: continues to be how much better can this employment picture? Yet? 611 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I come on every month and I talked about the 612 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: wage situation, whether or not those are rising, because that's 613 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: an important component of this Wages grew at three point 614 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: one percent. They dipped slightly last month down to two 615 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: point nine percent, So it's good to get that number 616 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: back above three percent. But with an employment looking as 617 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: good as it is, with so many people finding and 618 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: getting jobs, the question is why are wages not rising faster? Now? 619 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: We did see earlier this week that productivity not to 620 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: its highest increase since the last nine years, So that 621 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: might be some of the momentum that we've been missing 622 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: in these in these in these numbers that might start 623 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: increasing that wage number. So as we move into the 624 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: next couple of months, I would encourage people to continue 625 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: to look at that wage number. I think it will 626 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: continue to move higher. You know, I'm going to go 627 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: next just because it's kind of works with what Maddie 628 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: was just saying. So it's my it's a double quick 629 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: take on your radar. This is the first time I've 630 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: ever done that. But what's all my radar? What's been 631 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: on my radars? The coronavirus coming out of China, and 632 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Bloomberg Televisions. Jonathan Pharaoh 633 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: or a leaguer today on BTV ahead of the opening bell. 634 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: And you know, President Trump's tone towards General Secretary Shi 635 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Jing Ping of China has been incredibly optimistic, incredibly positive. 636 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: He's been praiseworthy of China for its handling of the 637 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: coronavirus give it and then that he's saying that they're 638 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: doing a good job. And of course, you know, yesterday 639 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: I told everybody about how on February fourteenth, the Chinese 640 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: are gonna make good with lowering some of their tariffs 641 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: as they committed to doing so on the U S. 642 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: China Phase one Trade Agreement. Mattie Doppler. So, but the 643 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: President's tone continues to be positive. I'm wondering if there's 644 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: any anything in the job's report that would yet that 645 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: would suggest some uneasiness in the US domestic front for 646 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. Not yet. On coronavirus, we saw a twelve 647 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: thousand job dropped on manufacturing, but manufacturing, of course, has 648 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: continued to be weak. I would watch that number though 649 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: as well as you move into the next couple of months, 650 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: because you've got this ying in this Yang, you've got 651 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: coronavirus that is certainly going to stamp all that's gonna 652 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna siple of industrial opression in China. But you 653 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: also have phase one in the passage of U S 654 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: M c A, which you would expect to increase is 655 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: manufacturing numbers. And one more note on the coronavirus is 656 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: that because everyone's been court I mean, because of the question, 657 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: I'll be careful with my words, because of the quarantines 658 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: in China, because folks have been having to stay home 659 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: from work. Retailers have been getting pummeled in China as 660 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: a result of that, and there are a lot of 661 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: US retailers who could be impacted by folks staying home 662 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: from work. So it's in a way, it's almost like 663 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: what happens in a DC partial government shutdown, you know 664 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, So it's it's gonna again 665 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: this or stomach um. All right, Maddie, that's on your radar, Kate, 666 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: Mark tell what's your quick take on your radar? Think 667 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: what I'm watching tonight on the debate stage mostly is 668 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: that while we think we have two front runners, it's 669 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: so easy to just talk about boudage As and Bernie Sanders. 670 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: Let's not forget four years ago. This debate is when 671 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio was looking at also like a front runner, 672 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: and I think how quickly things changed with one back 673 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: and forth he kept getting hammered by Chris Christie had 674 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: the same can Chris Christie go ahead? Yes? And that 675 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: completely changed it. So I warned people that, well, it's 676 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: so easy to talk about one or two front runners. 677 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Things so so easily changed. And that could Elizabeth Warren, 678 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: that could be, that could be Andrew Yang, who else, 679 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: Tom Styre could be. Yeah, I think Elizabeth Warren is 680 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: who someone who comes to mind, um, particularly because she's 681 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: from Massachusetts. She's you know, she really needs New Hampshire, 682 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: so she's gonna be you know, putting everything into tonight 683 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: because she doesn't do tonight, she's probably out really oh yeah, 684 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: because that past New Hampshire. So that you're saying there's 685 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of pressure for some of 686 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: these candidates to drop out after, which is why I 687 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: think that we're going to see a lot of dirty 688 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: shots tonight. And interesting just got interesting friend shout out. 689 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay Scott first, and what's on your what's your quick 690 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: take on your radar? Well, I completely agree with that one, 691 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: um and uh, because you know, they're gonna go in there. 692 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I think Elizabeth Warren and Amy klobersher loaded with things 693 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: that they have to do that are game changers I 694 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: think for them, or the road sort of ends for 695 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: both of them. But I'm gonna be looking at Pete 696 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: Buddha Cheese, particularly because he's got to He is clearly 697 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: going to go beyond New Hampshire. He's gonna be in Nevada, 698 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna be in states where he isn't as well known, 699 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: hasn't doesn't have the infrastructure, And I think I'd look 700 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: for him in the same way that um. You know, 701 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: we might be curious about Donald Trump running the ad 702 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: focused on criminal justice reform during the Super Bowl, and 703 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: you could say, well, he's he's reaching out to African 704 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: American voters, and really what he's reaching out to is 705 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: white UM women in in certain states to reassure them 706 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: about the stand subourbon women and UM. And I think 707 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Buddha Chege will be just gonna see if he's forecasting 708 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: anything actually to African American voters in South Carolina that 709 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be watching him maybe for the first time, 710 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: to say we're gonna get a look at him in 711 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and he hasn't. Actually, he needs 712 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: to makes up some real room if he's gonna have 713 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: a play in South Carolina. All right, So we're all nerds, 714 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: and Maddie, I'm gonna come back to you down in 715 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: d C. But for for non I mean ever you know, 716 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: And I say that respectfully, But we also a kind 717 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: of a badge of honor. I don't the rest of 718 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: you guys, So I mean now I do not growing up, 719 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: but I say this respect of respectfully for the non 720 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: nerds out there. A three hour debate, it's a long time, 721 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Naddie Duppler for for for folks on a Friday night 722 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: after a long week of work, three hours, you've got it, 723 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: particularly because you've got this president who always wants to 724 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: talk about ratings. Like, I don't know who else is 725 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna be tuning in for a three hour debate on 726 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: a Friday night at the end of what has been 727 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, five hundred different news cycles this week. Um, 728 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see kind of who tunes 729 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: into that. But I think all the points that have 730 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: been made around the table are really really good ones. 731 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: And I'll return the point that I made earlier, which 732 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: is that Democrats right now have got to figure out 733 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: a way to come up with a contrast not just 734 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: with them, not just with Donald Trump, but between and 735 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: betwixt all the people on that stage. And you're gonna 736 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: need at least three hours to do that. We'll see. 737 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: And that's that's the final point I'll make. And Scott, 738 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the last word here, just as 739 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: for you know, Ted, when Ted Kennedy's press secretaries are 740 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: going to show, you got to give him the last word. 741 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: So obviously, yes, But what do you I think that is? 742 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: There's been so many news cycles and you've got like 743 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: thirty seconds less than that. There's been so many news cycles. 744 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: But tell me about the importance of keeping it simple 745 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: up on that stage tonight. Oh it's it's it's absolutely 746 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: But keeping it simple. I mean, if you if you 747 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: get into too many policy wonky things, that's not what 748 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: people are gonna that's not the takeaway. You know, it 749 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: was Ronald Reagan in nineties saying it's my microphone, Mr Green, 750 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: simple message that conveyed a whole lot about who he was. 751 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: I love that, all right, keep it simple, folks, Wake 752 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: up if you're driving on there on the road. Drive safe. 753 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: I heard it was a great day in Washington, d C. 754 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: But that's all right because we are live from San 755 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Ansel's College, where you can listen to the Make here 756 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: only on or you can listen to it multiple ways, 757 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: but also on from her radio. I'm Kevin Cirelli, banksaid 758 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: the panel. You're listening to Bloomberg ninety nine one