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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: nor back with doctor Jeffrey Rudeger. His book Cured. His

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Speaker 1: website is linked up at Coast to coastam dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's his name with doctor dr in front of it,

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Speaker 1: but it's all linked up for yet Coast to coastam

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Speaker 1: dot com. Jeffrey. These individuals, these hundred people who miraculously

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Speaker 1: got cured, were they religious or spiritual? Not all of them.

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Speaker 1: Some were spiritual, some are religious, some are not. It's

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Speaker 1: quite a smattering across the board in terms of all

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Speaker 1: of that. Were they all told there's really nothing we

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Speaker 1: can do for you other than, you know, chop you

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Speaker 1: up and give you conventional chemo and radiation and everything else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are cases of hancre carcinoma, glioblastoma multiform

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Speaker 1: closing spondylitis, which is an autoimmune disease. That was Juniper.

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Speaker 1: There was end stage lupus with lupus in the brain

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Speaker 1: and the kidneys, in the liver, in the heart. That

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Speaker 1: was jan Let's see who whatever. We had doctor Patricia Kane.

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Speaker 1: She was a physician diagnosed by biobviously with idiopathic pulmonary fbrosis,

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Speaker 1: where your lungs essentially turned a cardboard and you can't

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Speaker 1: exchange oxygen any longer and you die. So it was

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Speaker 1: a wide range of cases with a wide range of

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Speaker 1: people and religious commitments, and I have to assume they

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Speaker 1: did not simply just throw in the towel, did they. No.

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Speaker 1: Now Again, it's fascinating when the specter of death is

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Speaker 1: facing you down how people respond. I've seen people be

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Speaker 1: but it's like the diagnosis liberates something in them. And

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Speaker 1: it's been fascinating to me to see how a person will,

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Speaker 1: for example, decide that well, I don't have to be

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Speaker 1: the doctor that my parents wanted me to be any longer,

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Speaker 1: or I don't have to do this. And it's one

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Speaker 1: of the most common things that people have said to

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Speaker 1: me over the years is it took an illness for

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Speaker 1: them to wake up and realize they didn't need to

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Speaker 1: didn't need to react to the perceived expectations of others

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Speaker 1: any longer, and they, for the first time in their

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Speaker 1: helped them come alive, that helped them live authentically, that

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Speaker 1: helped them pursue their own well being, or that which

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Speaker 1: it's a light in their eyes. And so that that

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Speaker 1: was an astonishing finding for me to see how even

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Speaker 1: though they expected to die, they decided to live as

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Speaker 1: well as they could in the time they had left.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did they do anything else other than that?

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to have a great time and have

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Speaker 1: a super run at it. What else did they do?

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Speaker 1: They had to have done something, So the four pillars

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Speaker 1: of healing and well being number one. Many people made

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Speaker 1: significant changes in the nutrition. Not everybody did, but lots

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Speaker 1: of people did. And by that I mean they eliminated

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Speaker 1: processed foods, sugars, and refined flowers. They ate a more

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Speaker 1: So you're consuming resources in your amazing immune system and

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Speaker 1: needing to repair constantly. And those that constant effort to

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Speaker 1: now know on the basis of research that people don't

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Speaker 1: have a diabetes problem, they don't have a cancer problem,

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Speaker 1: a blood pressure problem, a heart problem, or an autoimmune problem.

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Speaker 1: They have an inflammation problem. And so Inflama, as doctors,

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Speaker 1: we're all trained in body parts. If you're a gastroenterologist,

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Speaker 1: the mind. All of the specialized in body parts. But

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Speaker 1: the heart problem. That's when it them becomes manifest. Now,

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Speaker 1: for these hundred people who miraculously were saved, there were

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Speaker 1: What went wrong with them? So if I'm understanding your question,

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Speaker 1: back in the nineties, at age thirty seven, she had

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Speaker 1: doing it because it's working. But they have not played

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Speaker 1: And they just are not trained to think it's possible

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Speaker 1: who really beat the odds. Did these hundred people Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: some do absolutely. It's it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: Doctors told her that if she went to a healing

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Speaker 1: to Brazil, got better and realized, oh, there's something about

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Speaker 1: she dramatically changed her life and now decades later, she's

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Speaker 1: happy and healthy and amazing lady. They're just her smile

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Speaker 1: and the light in her eyes is just really amazing.

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