1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Getty listen 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: to this, guys. 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: The Louver just announced that hundreds of Egyptian books were 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: damaged in a recent water leak. 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: Egyptians like, well, they would have been fine if you 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: just left him here in the desert. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: I'm taking right now. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: The director of the Lover is like, I'm ready for 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five to be oh ber Okay. 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: That was another black eye for one of the world's 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: most famous museums. Yeah. 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: I was watching I think it was ABC News last 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: night and they mentioned that a bunch of the books 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: got wet. But the museum has said none of the 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: books were damaged. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: I know, I heard that's one of the thought. But 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: wet a lot and they were books from the nineteenth century, 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 2: So one hundred and fifty year old books got wet 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: and that's nothing. 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, nice pre very French thing to say. Huh oh, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: hey just dawned on me. What you're so excited about 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: hearing about how Americans spend their time. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's what I want to know. We will 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: get to that in a bit. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: I also want to get to the piece entitled we 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: gave students laptops and took away their brains. But before 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: we get there, wanted to touch on do you remember 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: the University of San Diego or University California at San 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: Diego put out a report that they have to have 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: remedial math for lots and lots of their enrolled students. 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: You're at a university, you're in theory, talented enough, elite 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: enough to get into a UC school, but need a 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: remedial math class. 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: Right right? 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: And I came across commentary on this, and I've been 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: holding on to it and edited the rest of it. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: But let's see this. 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: First one is the fabulous Alicia Finley, and she mentions 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: that kids learn how to add fractions and around numbers 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: in elementary school, but many students that you see San 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Diego can't do it. Roughly one in eight freshmen lack 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: rudimentary high school math skills, and it gets worse. Students 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: who've been placed in the remedial high school math class 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three had roughly fifth grade level abilities. 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Only about forty percent could correctly round the number blankety 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: blank to the nearest one hundred, which is a third 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: grade skill. 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 52 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: And because so many incoming students were numerically illiterate, the 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: University editor amedial class for middle and elementary school math. 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Elementary school math. Yeah, I remember the numbers, the number 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: of people. There were percentages of people that like couldn't 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: do first grade or second grade third grade math, right right. 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: And here's one more shocking thing that I hadn't remembered. Remarkably, 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: among students placed into that math course, ninety four percent 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: had completed an advanced math class in high school pre 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: calculus or stats and received an average of A minus 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: in their math courses. 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a ability to hang on to 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: information problem? 64 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Then mmmm, maybe maybe are you assuming those A minuses 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: were legitimate? 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: If so, oh ho ho ho, I'm gonna out ho. 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Ho Santa Claus Anyway, So Alasta asks, is this an 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: indictment A of the University of California's admissions D public 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: K through twelve schools, c US News and World Reports, 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: college rankings, or D all of the above. 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: If you chose D, you're correct, Yeah, just thinking you 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: see San Diego could say, what are we supposed to do? 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: We took in a whole bunch of straight A students 74 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: from high school. 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: If we took in only Asians, you guys would yell 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: at us anyway, So let's start with a The University 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: of California uc BORDER regents in twenty twenty scrapped standardized 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: tests as an admission requirement under the guise of promoting equity. 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, which will go down in infamy as perhaps 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the crappiest year in American history, no doubt, between the 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: utterly ridiculous race riots and the Marxist Black Lives Matter 82 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: and pushing the postmodern critical theory stuff and the unforgivable, 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: unconstitutional COVID shutdowns anyway, so they're trying to promote equity. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: The likely real reason blacks and Hispanics score lower on 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: average on the SAT, and requiring applicants to submit standardized 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: test course could make it easier for critics to prove 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: the universities providing racial preferences, which were prohibited in cal 88 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Unicornia in nineteen ninety six by a voter referendum referendum, 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: and the math Proficiency analysis suggests that's what they're doing. 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: On the sly they're trying desperately to figure out how 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: to get equity going anyway, So in an effort to 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: boost of and overall enrollment and thus rake in more 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: government student aid, you see San Diego increasingly admitted huge 94 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: numbers of unqualified applicants from low income high schools because 95 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: they get more government money. But the report says, in 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: order to holistically admit a diverse and representative class, we 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: need to admit students who may be at a higher 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: risk of not succeeding. 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: And they do. 100 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: They drop out in droves anyway, and so they put 101 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: more of an emphasis on GPA. But those don't reliably 102 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: reflect student preparation because grades are inflated and they're just 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: they're a bad measure. So let's get on to B 104 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: because the colleges are utterly corrupt. B elementary school education 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: or you know, not advanced education. The report says students 106 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: quote have been underserved by their prior schooling, no kidding. 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Only twenty two percent of twelfth graders scored proficient in 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: math on the National Assessment of Education Progress last year, 109 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: the lowest on record. Once do you see San Diego 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: remedial math teacher observed that some teachers would teach life 111 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: skills and school math class just using calculators, the internet 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: and prescribed formulas. Classes don't teach mathematical thinking. Blah blah blah. Meanwhile, 113 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: some of the profession's best teachers, highly capable women who'd 114 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: entered the profession when their sex had fewer career options, 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: have been retiring. Many of the replacements are lacking teacher credential. 116 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Programs typically require only a C plus average and undergrad 117 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: with a pervasive grade inflation in colleges, Many young teachers 118 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: made themselves have only fifth grade math skills. 119 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: You know I have because I got a one kid 120 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: in high school and a kid in junior high. I 121 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: have a lot of questions about what we teach kids 122 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: what I was taught. Is it necessary for everyone? Is 123 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: this stuff that's going to benefit me in life? I 124 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: have a lot of questions that. The problem, though, is 125 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff they've done away with has 126 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: been replaced by stuff that's even way further down the 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: road of not necessary our education to help prepare you 128 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: for life. 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, all kinds of wokeism and hating your country, 130 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: and I know it's horrible. So one more fact that 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: the college board has dumbed down the SAT in an 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: effort to encourage more students to take it. 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: It's now two hours instead of three. 134 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Students get more time to complete each question gone or 135 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: long reading passages that might strain TikTok attention spans. Analogies 136 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: were eliminated in twenty oh five after academics claim they 137 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: were culturally biased in all sorts. 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: Of different stuff. Wow. 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: And then I wanted to get to this from Ben Sass, 140 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: who is writing about the same situation. And he goes 141 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: through the facts that college students were struggling with questions 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: such as seven plus two equals six plus blank, or 143 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Sarah had nine pennies and nine dimes? 144 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: How many coins did she have? In all? Wow? Good lord. 145 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: He starts off by crediting the University California, San Diego 146 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: work group for ten. 147 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: In the truth. Yeah, good point, good point. 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: He said, sure, that's a low bar, but it's one 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: that many other universities have lacked courage to clear. 150 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: Or high schools all kinds of schools aren't honest at 151 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: all about the real education level of their students. 152 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: And then he says, and I love Ben Sas, This 153 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: mass failure is the result of three intersecting crises. The 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: first and furthest downstream crisis is that a highly selective 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: college could admit so many young adults who are so 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: tragically unprepared. And then he says, you've got to reverse 157 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: the trend of dumbing down admissions to get certain numbers. 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: They need to reverse course, ignore the screaming DEI dead enders, 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: and reinstate the s A t act or whatever requirements 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: to enable quality control blabblah. Second, for already admitted students, 161 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: further assessment should be required to ensure that those who 162 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: need remedial courses receive them. Okay, let's admit we have 163 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: a problem. Then he says the other two root crises 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: are scarier. The UCSD rev likely means the US has 165 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: millions of recent high school grads and twenty somethings who 166 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: were unprepared to navigate modern work in life and lack 167 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the logical problem solving schools, which with algebra has traditionally 168 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: armed adolescence. 169 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: But it gets worse. 170 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: The students admitted a UCSD were on average receiving A 171 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: grades in high school math classes that supposedly built multiple 172 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: years beyond algebraic and arithmetic foundations. This was a fraud. 173 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: High schools have clearly been inflating grades beyond what many 174 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: students earned or observed. Let's keep in mind that anybody 175 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: who suggests any significant reform will be beaten to death 176 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: politically by the teachers' unions. 177 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: I had this own experience in a public school with 178 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: my own kid, with a really really really nice teacher, 179 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: but just absolutely exaggerated one of my kid's abilities in 180 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: a certain class. And then when I became aware that 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: not even close to the kind of grade you're giving them, 182 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: it was just so disappointing to me. What are we 183 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: doing here? What are we doing here? Yeah? 184 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you've got this really interesting think piece 185 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: in the Free Press. We gave students laptops and took 186 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: away their brains. Decades of data show a clear pattern. 187 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: The more schools digitize, the worst students perform. 188 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm kind of interested in that one, though. Why Why 189 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: is that? Is there something about typing into a computer? 190 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: I hate type into a computer more than writing personally. 191 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, yeah, there are some answers, some explanations. 192 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: There's also a fair amount of disagreement, As you might 193 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: guess on this type of topic, but we can get 194 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to that in a couple of minutes after a word 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: from our friends at web Route. I remember when we 196 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: gave my mom her first iPad and what a wonderful 197 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: thing that was for her. She had Parkinson's and wasn't 198 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: super mobile, but she had access to the world. 199 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: Again. 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My kids are always wanting to watch Violent Night? 227 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: Is that what it was? God, I'm dang it. That 228 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: thing is bloody. 229 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh really you gave in? Oh that's funny. I just 230 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I Well, but neither one of us is into bloody movies. 231 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't started to watch it, and I said, well, 232 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm not watching this. I'm not watching this. 233 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good title. That is a pretty good title. 234 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: I think maybe that drove the whole project. A great title. Jim, Right, 235 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: let's make something lots. We need to build a movie 236 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: around that. 237 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: All right, So some of our favorite researchers say, uh, yeah, 238 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: the digital thing has been terrible for kids in learning. 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: We can touch on that and then move on to 240 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: other fair I love the fact that you've got a 241 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: breakdown of how we all spend our time. 242 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh boy, well you know what, Yeah, I'm sorry, it's 243 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: not oh boy, it is Elvis Costello. One of my 244 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: favorite songs of his is entitled A Deep, dark, Truthful Mirror. 245 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: That's a. 246 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: That's a hell of a phrase. It's it's the moment 247 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: when you really see yourself. 248 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: Wow. Too much effing perspective. Yeah, yeah, but it's liberating 249 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: once you get past the vomiting. It's just liberating to 250 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: see the truth. Well, we'll see if we all feel 251 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: liberated or not together. I may not get past the vomiting. Yeah, exactly. 252 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: That's all coming up. Stay here. There will be a 253 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: notable first this year, the Globes will hand out an 254 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: award for best Podcast. They'll be broadcast on January eleventh. Yeah, 255 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: Golden Globes added the best Podcast to their categories, which 256 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: seems like a good idea. I mentioned the other day. 257 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: Apple Music's podcast of the Year was The Rest of History. 258 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: Rest is History, which I absolutely love, featuring Tom Holland, 259 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: who we're going to feature a little bit later talking 260 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: about the difference between Islam and Christianity. 261 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Point of order, there are no other podcasts. This is 262 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: the only one. So yeah, I can't wait for that discussion. 263 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. Back to the topic of we 264 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: gave students aptops and took away their brains and a 265 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: great deal has been written by some fabulous researcher, some 266 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: of our favorite people, from Gene Twenge to Jonathan Hate, 267 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Greg Lukianov, Abigail Schreier about all sorts of you know, 268 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,479 Speaker 1: digital and other trends that are hurting kids. But this 269 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: this writer, Jared Horvath, he's talking about. 270 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: There it is. 271 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Today kids are spending more hours than ever in classrooms, 272 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: yet they're developing more slowly. The culprit lies in the 273 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: meteoric rise of educational technology, and he says to essentially, 274 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: you older people, you're picturing a few dusty desktops in 275 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: the library, or maybe a weekly typing lesson or whatever. 276 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: That image is now dangerously outdated, the idea that the 277 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: tech is peripheral to education or just a tool. Over 278 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: the past two decades, educational technology has exploded from a 279 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: niche supplement into a four hundred billion dollar juggernaut, woven 280 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: into nearly every quarter of schooling. More than half of 281 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: all students more than half now use a computer at 282 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: school for one to four hours each day, and a 283 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: full quarter spend more than four hours on screens during 284 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: the typical seven hour school day. 285 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm surprised it's that low. Actually, I'm surprised it's not 286 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: way more than half that are doing it. One more 287 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: sentence for you to chew on. 288 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Researchers estimate that less than half of this time is 289 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: actually spent learning, with students drifting off task up to 290 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes of every hour when on. 291 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: Classroom devices on average. 292 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: So that hour looking at a screen, only about twenty 293 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: two minutes of it is actually on task. 294 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Okay, let me point out the obvious. Then I will 295 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: get some credit for a clever thought, even though it's 296 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: the obvious. Yes, this rise in technology or using computers 297 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: in school obviously coincided with these stairm at phones and 298 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: everything like that at the same time and our attention 299 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: span going away. So you know what caused what My 300 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: attention span is a hell of a lot shorter. 301 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Too, right, Yeah, interrelated causes and multiple causes. Yeah, absolutely true, absolutely, yeah, No, 302 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: that's a good though, that's not that. 303 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Give me a cookie. Golf clap. But listen, here you 304 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: go here, you're looking for a bad guy. 305 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh, you got the teachers you need, certainly, But driving 306 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: this digital surge or global tech firms that have perfected 307 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: the art of harvesting data and maximizing screen time? 308 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: Can I start with Google? And how horrifying it was 309 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: to me to find out because I had avoided Google 310 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: my whole life. I didn't have Gmail, I didn't have 311 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: anything to do with Google. I had the way they 312 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: take your information. Your kid goes to school, you have 313 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: to fully bury your soul to the world of Google 314 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: because everything is Google classroom at that point. And you 315 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: got to get on board with all of it. And 316 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: I thought, what how did Google manage to get into schools? 317 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: To the point that it's just de facto that's the 318 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: way we do things right right, well, perfect time to 319 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: say this. Many educational platforms openly track behavior, build long 320 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: term profiles, and use the same engagement driven designs that 321 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: keep adults endlessly scrolling on TikTok or Instagram. The business 322 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: model is to hook kids early and create customers for life. 323 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: Not to mention that you're constantly fighting the freaking computer, 324 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: just like you are at work with an update or 325 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: password doesn't work, or this or that, the sin of 326 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: stuff that doesn't sidetrack you. If you got a paper 327 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: in pen Boy. 328 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: In this graph of standardized test scores falling with screen time, 329 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: it is an almost perfect correlation. 330 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: Course of course, Yeah, it's unbelievable. 331 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: I swear I want to win an enormous lottery prize 332 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: and I am, well, I'll buy a big yacht, a 333 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: really nice yacht. But then I want to start fundamental schools. 334 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: I know they exist out there, but I want to 335 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: grow that movement. I think it's incredibly important. 336 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: Man, if kids showed up with no attention span with 337 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: that work, I wonder we'd beat it into them metaphorically 338 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: speaking of course, Wow, it's that your slogan. Gently over time, 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. 340 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: Paramount has now launched a one hundred eight billion dollar 341 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: hostile bid of Warner Brothers. It comes just days after 342 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: Warner Brothers agreed to an eighty two billion dollar bid 343 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: from Netflix. President Trump signaling his concern about the potential 344 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: Netflix deal. His son in law, Jared Kushner's private equity 345 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: firm is now helping to finance Paramounts new hostile takeover bid. 346 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: Take our bid, or I'll punch you in the face. 347 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: That's a hostile takeover bid. Hostile bid. You'd like drop 348 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: paratroopers on the roof of the building and they repel 349 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: down the side. Shoot your way in. That's right, because 350 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: I heard one business person say on CNBC today, one 351 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: hundred and eight billion dollar offers not that hostile. But 352 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: what it means to the movie business or TV business 353 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: or whatever. I haven't wrapped my head around. People keep 354 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: saying it's gonna be a really, really big deal. Here's 355 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: David Ellison, the CEO of Paramount. 356 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 4: It's bad for the consumer, it's bad for the creative community. 357 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: This deal, if it is allowed to move forward, will 358 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: actually be the death of the theatrical movie business in Hollywood. 359 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: We're sitting here today trying to save it. 360 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Why Why would that be the death of movies? I'm 361 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable with. And Trump has been super into this. Yeah, 362 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: let me decide whether we like this merger or not. 363 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: Just let it play out. You know, there will be 364 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: creativity tomorrow, no matter what happens. There will be people 365 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: making films tomorrow, no matter what happens. 366 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all we learned that from Netflix and everything, 367 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: And there's lots of really talented people out there. You 368 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: give them a little bit of money, they get their 369 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: friends to act in a camera, and they can put 370 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: together a freaking fantastic movie. Yeah, play this that next 371 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: clip on there, Michael, This is Kara Swisher on the 372 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: CNN the lead explaining that threat from Paramount that'll be 373 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: the death of the theatrical movie business. Uh. 374 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: I think that theatrical movie experience has been dying, and it 375 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 5: has nothing to do with Netflix. It has to do 376 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 5: with twelve dollars popcorn, bad experiences, bad screens, not giving 377 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 5: customers what they want. I mean, I think it's easy 378 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: to blame a company like Netflix. And by the way, 379 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: what's fascinating here is in any other kind of situation, 380 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 5: the villain would be Netflix because of the way it's 381 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 5: changed the economics of Hollywood. 382 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: But that has a lot to do with how. 383 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: Hollywood has behaved over the past twenty years, ignoring all 384 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: these changes. Now consumers seem to like Netflix, right, or 385 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: else it wouldn't be doing so well. And the question is, 386 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 5: how do we change the economics of Hollywood to make 387 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: theatrical make money or make it be promising. 388 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with her. I mean, we all know plenty 389 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: of people who are just obsessed with some certain show 390 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: on Netflix. I have no freaking interest whatsoever in the 391 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: latest GD Marvel movie that Hollywood pushes on this Yeah, yeah, 392 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: I'm not made sunny compelling. 393 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't go to theaters, mostly because of my fellow 394 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: human beings, not the price of the popcorn. But she 395 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: did make some really good points in there, and I 396 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: became aware a number of years ago that Hollywood has 397 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: has hollowed out the middle budget film. It's either super 398 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: high budget superhero extravaganzas or very small art films. And 399 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: so I've been kind of put off by the movie 400 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: business anyway. 401 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: So I'm sorry. 402 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: I just I'm not gonna stay up tonight worried that 403 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: it will change. It's fine. 404 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: It's always interesting that he's using the language theatrical movie business, 405 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: so that particularly means seeing it in a movie theater. 406 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: There's all kinds of reasons why that's never gonna come back, 407 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: including my eighty inch television that is four K that's what? 408 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: How was that a significant part of American life? Like 409 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: exactly a century right, I mean from the nineteen twenties 410 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: or so teams maybe through now and now something different. 411 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: About it. I'll have to ask my dad. I don't 412 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: know if he probably saw three movies in his life 413 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: before he was twenty years old in a lot of America. 414 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: So it had like a fifty year run of being 415 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: a big deal, which is the way a lot of 416 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: stuff works. Whatever. Got a couple of breaking news things 417 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: for you will tell you about right after this. I 418 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: don't know how many interceptions you're expecting out of a 419 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: quarterback hurt for the Eagles last night. I don't know 420 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: what the number was. 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First of all, a federal judge has 448 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: ordered the release of voluminous records in the Galaine Maxwell case. 449 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: Oh whatever, all right, we'll see if there's anything there. 450 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: Then anyway, they're gonna come out. Those are gonna come out. 451 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if that is the EPPS lists using 452 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: my finger quotes that people are talking about, or these 453 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: are different records, but anyway, that's gonna come out. And 454 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm really interested in this story. Some people are upset 455 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: about this. I'm not smart enough to really understand it. 456 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: But President Trump announced yesterday that he had told I 457 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: have informed President Gy of China that the United States 458 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: will allow Nvidia to ship its h two hundred products, 459 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: that's its very best AI chips to approved customers in 460 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: China and other countries. And at least one of my 461 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: favorite thinkers said, this is a really big deal. It's 462 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: essentially a reversal of the US export control policy on 463 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: advanced chips, possibly decisive in the AI race. China has 464 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: more power engineers in the entire edge layer, so by 465 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: giving this up the best chips, we increase the odds 466 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: that the world will be running on China's AI. Whether 467 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: that's true or not, I don't know, but it sounds 468 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: very scary. 469 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I haven't heard, excuse me, anybody dispute that well. And 470 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: Trump said, yeah, we'll let you sell to the Chinese 471 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: these incredibly advanced chips if you cut us in for 472 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: twenty five percent, right, whatever that means. So the government 473 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: is now a twenty five percent partner in that particular 474 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: private industry venture. That's one of several of that sort 475 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: of relationship that's been forced. I don't even know what 476 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: that is. I mean, if socialism is the people control 477 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: the means of production, we're certainly moving that direction. 478 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: The idea of China having access to the very best 479 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: AI chips just on its face sounds horrible to me. 480 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: Well anymore grade that for a stake? What's going on here? 481 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: National security wise? If they cut us in for thirty 482 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: five percent, would we send like just a fleet of 483 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: F thirty. 484 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: Five's to China? Good? Good question? Where's it end? 485 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: I do not get this Trump policy at all, completely mystified, troubling. 486 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so how we're spending our time? Can't wait to 487 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: hear this, among other things on the waist, to hear 488 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: Gavin Newson's favorability rating in California way up since he 489 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: became the face of the resistance. We can talk about 490 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: that later. There will be. 491 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Vomiting, Okay, anything that improves his standing makes me sick. 492 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: Anyway. 493 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at a graph. It's an animated graph. 494 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: It moves as the years. 495 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 2: Those are so cool. 496 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I love them as the years go by. The bar 497 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: graph changes. You're not going to see that, although we've 498 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: posted it at Armstrong in getty dot com. I retweeted it. 499 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: If you follow us on x formerly known as Twitter, 500 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: I will there are a lot of numbers here. I 501 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: will attempt to help make sense of them. It's better 502 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: to see it. But people spent their time from nineteen 503 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: thirty through twenty twenty four, and the punchline being, of course, 504 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: and we wonder why society's in decline. But in nineteen 505 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: thirty two, family and school were virtually tied at twenty 506 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: two percent, and chain then you had friends at nineteen percent, 507 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: with neighbors eleven point three percent, church, ten percent, bars, restaurants, 508 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: et cetera, eight percent, college. You know, down line. Obviously 509 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: online was zero percent. Very few people online in nineteen 510 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: thirty two. They just didn't enjoy it as much back then. Okay, 511 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: so let's just go ahead and jump like ten years. Oh, 512 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: let's see, let me silence there there we go. Okay, 513 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: So nineteen forty two, you still have family and friends 514 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: virtually tied. School has fallen back a tiny bit. Neighbors 515 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: is right there where he always was in a fourth place. 516 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Church has declined a little bit. 517 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: Good. 518 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Time with coworkers, by the way, has gone up slightly. 519 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: It's now around five percent. 520 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: How much time on line in nineteen forty two still zero, Jack, 521 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: an excellent incisive question. 522 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and roll up. Oh, I see people 523 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: category switching places. There we are in nineteen fifty two. 524 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: Friends is now surpassed family by about three percent. School 525 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: is still big, bars, restaurants, and entertainment is now significantly 526 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: higher than it was. 527 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: Wowly from the thirties to the fifties. Hanging out with 528 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: the bar at the bars with the friends, family dropping 529 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: a little bit interesting, Yeah. 530 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Bar, but you know it's bars, restaurants, etc. But it's 531 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: definitely you're out more. Neighbors has fallen back a little bit. 532 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: Coworkers now has gone from four percent way up to 533 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: seven percent. It's almost doubled how much time we spend, 534 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: and church continues to decline a little bit. Let's jump 535 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: to nineteen sixty two, and we're getting. 536 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: Close to the hippies. Yeah, Dan, not quite there yet. 537 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: Friends is now clearly outstripped family by six or seven percent. 538 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: School has fallen slightly, Entertainment is now grown. Time with 539 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: coworkers is now almost at ten percent. It's now doubled 540 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: from the original Neighbors is in decline, and church continues 541 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: to fall. 542 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Part of it is not well, it's all cultural, I guess, 543 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: but it's not like attitudes. I mean, your coworker was 544 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: your mule in nineteen oh two's. 545 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: Really not that great a conversationalists, right right, Okay, And 546 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: now I'm going to skip ahead a few decades as various. 547 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: You're so stubborn, gym, I would say various. 548 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, forces in our lives are jockeying for a position. 549 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety two, we're definitely spending the most time with 550 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: our friends. 551 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: Coworkers and bars, restaurants, et cetera. Have both pasted family. 552 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: Church has continued to decline only slightly from the sixties 553 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: to the nineties, but much more time at work and 554 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: much more time out being entertained, which is interesting. But 555 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: the punchline is coming up, and some of you are 556 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: ahead of us. We're gonna pause right at two thousand 557 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: and two, okay, because there's about to be a gigantic change. 558 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Online has gone from not to about six and a 559 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: half percent of our time online, even. 560 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: Though already by two thousand and two, probably at work mostly. Yeah, 561 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna backup just a little bit. 562 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, online four percent in two thousand and then six 563 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: and three quarters percent in two thousand and two, which 564 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: is a significant change, But most of our time is 565 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: still with friends twenty seven percent, and coworkers and then 566 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: out getting entertained. Now, let's introduce the smartphone, folks. I'm 567 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: just going to go to twenty twelve, ten years from then. 568 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: Online is now number one. It's gone from six seven 569 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: percent to twenty six percent, surpassing friends. Coworkers is still 570 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: in third, bars and restaurants ten percent, and then you 571 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: get to family and school and church continues to decline slightly. 572 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Online went from a non factor to how most people 573 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: spent most of their time in the span of a decade. 574 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: That's twenty twelve. 575 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead up to twenty twenty four, ladies and gentlemen, 576 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: I give you the modern world online sixty one percent 577 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: of their time. Wow, two thirds fourteen percent friends, which 578 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: had always been number one. 579 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: Since like the nineteen late nineteen thirty And I'm only 580 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: pretending to listen to my friends so I can get 581 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: back to my phone. Or you're sitting with your friends 582 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: and you're all staring at your phones together exactly. 583 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: In fact, online is now four and a half times 584 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: the number that friends is. Coworkers has declined, Bars and 585 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: restaurants has declined steeply, and that includes bowling at least 586 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: and whatever else, probably sports games and that sort of 587 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: thing too. Family is a tiny fraction what it was. 588 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: School has declined significantly, Church has been cut in half 589 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: from fifteen years prior. College neighbors practically don't exist. It's 590 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: all online. Has anybody got any questions? 591 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 2: That's it? Well, I have a statement that ain't going 592 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: to change. 593 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: It's never changed back, As I always say, it can 594 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: change in your life if you decide to do it. 595 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: Societally not so much. 596 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about society. It ain't going to change 597 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: for society, it ain't going back, which is amazing. I 598 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: mean it's the biggest it's the biggest revolution in what 599 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: human beings are probably that's ever happened. 600 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a anthropologist, you've got to look at society. 601 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: Sure. As a human I. 602 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Look at society as a collection of individuals, and I'm 603 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: i the idea of I'm going to change society is now, 604 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: it's no change yourself, change the people you care about. 605 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: That's the only thing you, as a human being, should 606 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: be worried about. Honestly, the immediately local. 607 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: And as I always say, those of us who remember 608 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: the before times are aging right and will be gone 609 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: in a blink of an eye, and there won't be 610 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: anybody that remembers any of what life was like before online, 611 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: which was everything. It was everything, every day, you know, 612 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: prior to whatever nineteen ninety eight was not online, every 613 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: single thing, And then that gets obliterated, and there won't 614 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: but anybody left who remembers what life was. 615 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: On the other hand, on the upside, is everybody's happy. 616 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait no, actually everybody's miserable. Loneliness is epidemic. Therapists 617 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: are printing money, et cetera. You know, interestingly, they don't 618 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: have babies, no babies. Google search volume for the following things. 619 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: How to meet people has skyrocketed from what is this 620 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: millions of people from twenty five million to one hundred million. 621 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: From two thousand nine to two hundred and twenty four, 622 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: it's quadrupled. 623 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: How to meet people, how to meet new people? 624 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Similar where to make friends has gone from that looks 625 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: like fifteen million to over one hundred million. The Google 626 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: search feel lonely has gone from forty five million or 627 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: so up to pe during COVID, not surprisingly at around 628 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: ninety million. So people are aware of how they feel, 629 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: which you think. 630 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 2: I hope they'll live to be a ripe old age. 631 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: I really do, because I I'd like, like, if I 632 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: can hang around to them one hundred forty years from now, 633 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: I'd love to see where the world is, where things are. 634 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm not optimistic, but you know, probably your average sixty 635 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: year old through history has been not optimy. Mystic thinks 636 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: that you know, things have changed and young people today 637 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. But this time we're right, this 638 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: time we're right. 639 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. The uh, the only thing that really shakes up 640 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: that thought in my head, that rabbit hole, is that 641 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: there will be gigantic, unforeseen, cataclysmic changes. 642 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: That will derail the whole. Uh. 643 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: You know, a b C D E all of a 644 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: sudden will be an s or you know, or or 645 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: in a completely different or accounting backward like it's a 646 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: sobriety test. I can't even do that, sober officer. Uh. 647 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: The as for me and mine, I'm I'm absorbing this. 648 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: I am going to send this to everybody I care. 649 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: About the drop off in time with family and friends 650 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: towards staring at your phone. I mean, what, you know, 651 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: what is there to say about that? 652 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Family, schooling and friends went from sixty one percent of 653 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: the time two now I silenced you earlier. Went from 654 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: sixty one percent to family, school and friends down to 655 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: there is twenty percent. 656 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think one of the problems also is 657 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: if you tell young people that, I think most of 658 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: them would say, yeah, that sounds really boring. Family friends 659 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: in school kill me. Now. It's not like they would 660 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: look at that and think, Wow, that seems like that 661 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: would have. 662 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: Been a great age to be alive. Right to be 663 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: entertained is not to be nourished. I would say to them, 664 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: you're not getting nourishment, and then I would realize they're 665 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: not listening. 666 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: They're staring at TikTok. You need to argue with the 667 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: human brain. Dopamine hits seem to be pretty popular. We 668 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: like our dopamine. 669 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: I've been arguing with my brain since the day I 670 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: was born that dopamine hit gets a lot of people 671 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: to do a lot of things all day today and 672 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: every day. And there are trillions of dollars being made 673 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: through it. Yeah no, but they've got your best interests 674 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: in mind. 675 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: Take their word for it, Sure they do. If you 676 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: miss a segment, gets the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 677 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: demand 678 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty