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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast struggles to fit in at

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Speaker 1: corporate functions. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by Rope. That's some heroes, Mark Cessiler to

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Speaker 1: my left, that Greg Rosenthalt and I right, what's up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: I think we we struggle to fit in at corporate functions.

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Speaker 1: Other times we're simply left off the invite list and

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Speaker 1: glaring emission. That's you know, obviously we we track heavily,

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Speaker 1: and there is there is also and we should be

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Speaker 1: fair to ourselves. There are other times where a little

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Speaker 1: later into the corporate function, you know, Daddy's get a

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Speaker 1: little loose, we actually become a main central driver of

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Speaker 1: the I don't think you guys struggled all well. I

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Speaker 1: think on that angle that also, you know, ultimately undo

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Speaker 1: undoes us as well. And if West was here right now,

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Speaker 1: and uh what things are going great with Wes who

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Speaker 1: so great news with Christopher. If West was here right now,

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Speaker 1: he would say, I don't go to no functions where

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Speaker 1: they asked me to put on a penguin suit's He

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Speaker 1: has never gone to one. So that is correct, and

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Speaker 1: it's always been about for whatever reason. Even though West,

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Speaker 1: like all of us, loves an open bar. Uh. Free

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Speaker 1: food is nice too, but especially an open bar. Don't

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Speaker 1: tell him to put on a tie, even though nobody

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Speaker 1: has to wear a tie. At some point West said,

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Speaker 1: never gone. He went to I think he went to

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Speaker 1: was It was a bad experience for West. Never been

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Speaker 1: since once. Yeah, once it happens. Once he's out. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank Mark for playing hurt. Right now, he's

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Speaker 1: wearing a really um awkward looking what would you call

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Speaker 1: left index finger. Well, it's a sling according to that,

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Speaker 1: not a sling. Splint splint, splint splank, thank you Erica.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the reason he's wearing that splint is directly

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Speaker 1: tied to the throne of sleeves and Mark, why did

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Speaker 1: you explain how you came to have this grizzly laceration

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Speaker 1: of your pointer finger. It is a very deep cut

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Speaker 1: on the inside of my index finger. And it came

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Speaker 1: yesterday during a ridiculous day off, right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the week and no plans. So I was at

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Speaker 1: home trying to make one of these tom Brady meals

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Speaker 1: that got shipped to our house tom Brady meal. You

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Speaker 1: were just trying to enjoy your off day, and Tommy

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Speaker 1: terrific says, hey, take out the sharpest knife in the

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Speaker 1: kitchen to cut up these ridiculous vegeams. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's that was in the instructions, taking out the

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Speaker 1: sharpest night I'll take some some, you know, blame myself

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Speaker 1: for being a ridiculously bad cook, but it does link

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Speaker 1: back to Tom Brady. And do I hear from the

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Speaker 1: Patriots or from Tom Brady when this went down? Not

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Speaker 1: a word? Did you when you reached out for the

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Speaker 1: request for the cookbook two hundred dollars? Did they say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we we'll shoot one over your way. No? No, not

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Speaker 1: on a pine leffl of cooperation. In fact, that project

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Speaker 1: has essentially been deep six. So but just remember Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is telling you to take out a sharp knife.

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Speaker 1: He has his people prepare his breakfast. But in lunches

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Speaker 1: for the common man. For Mark Sessler, You're you're taking

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Speaker 1: your life in your own hands. He doesn't put that

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Speaker 1: in the book. I mean again, I I take almost

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Speaker 1: entire full blame for this. But you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I like where you're going with it. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to say it, let me do it. Okay, today's show.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about today's show. And you know why. You

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Speaker 1: know what it is. It's the Fantasy Extravaganza. I already

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Speaker 1: see one of the special guests, Matt Franchises back there, Matt.

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Speaker 1: We just started the show, and I just, I just

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Speaker 1: we should have given you a head a message just now.

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Speaker 1: Sorry about that. We got pushed back, Matt behind the

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Speaker 1: glass just so you know. But Franchise is gonna be here,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant uh, two of the stalwarts um in fantasy

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Speaker 1: coverage here at NFL Media, gonna join us, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk some overvalued and undervalued players as you you

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Speaker 1: should be having your fantasy drafts starting now. Um. By now,

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Speaker 1: very exciting because you could get uh, Greg here wrote

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Speaker 1: in house. Uh, we lean on them West unfortunately not

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Speaker 1: ever it's anyway, we're gonna do our Fantasy extravagance Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Extravagances Part one, uh, in the second half of the show.

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Speaker 1: The first half of the show, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: the two preseason games week three earlier, just touch on

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Speaker 1: some things, take a couple takeaways from that, uh, and

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Speaker 1: also some strange things brewing. Uh with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: What else is new? But before we do any of that,

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Speaker 1: we will say hello formally to Erica behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: I call her LC because she's a loose cannon. What's up, Erica?

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Speaker 1: Is that like offensive or is it a compliment you have?

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Speaker 1: I mean, take it as you will, Take it as

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Speaker 1: really had a loose cannon. But I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: would take that positively? Yeah? I think that's a good thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to keep people on edge. Erica is wearing

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Speaker 1: air too. She's a greaser. Yeah. Let's do some news

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Speaker 1: action from Thursday night, specifically the Panthers and Jaguars game,

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Speaker 1: which leading into the game, of course, Uh, there was

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going wrong, and Blake Bordos comes in

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Speaker 1: say Bordles, you know, made some sort of push. They

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Speaker 1: got to be the past CBS Thursdays. That's sair came

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Speaker 1: problem is he's afraid because he doesn't know where the

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Speaker 1: the stands and they love football and they love their

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Speaker 1: sons so much they would just go watch him coach practice.

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Speaker 1: There's very little like it. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: He says he doesn't want players that follows all his

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Speaker 1: rules because those players, when it comes down to it,

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Speaker 1: you have to make a play sometimes which is against

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Speaker 1: the grain. And he looks for guys that kind of

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Speaker 1: he like changes his mold. It's not about his mold,

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Speaker 1: it's about the players. He doesn't believe. He thinks coaches

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Speaker 1: that say, oh, you know, you know, they made a

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Speaker 1: lot of mistakes after the game, He's like, that's your fault.

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Speaker 1: You should have taught them not to make mistakes. He

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Speaker 1: he believes you can be friends with players. Maybe most

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Speaker 1: most coaches don't feel that way, but he goes out

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Speaker 1: to eat with his ex players all the time they

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Speaker 1: are still in the league. I mean, you talked to him.

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Speaker 1: He uses the secret sauce. At the lunch you talked

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Speaker 1: to him a bunch of mean so he comes across

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Speaker 1: in person to you the same way he he always has.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just seems like a very likable Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very sort of straightforward, good quick one liners, like playing

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Speaker 1: sort of like he's right direct to the point. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this before, but what are my favorite parts

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Speaker 1: and super Bowl coverages? Talking to him right after he

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Speaker 1: won the super Bowl and he was just kinda such

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Speaker 1: a happy guy. Yeah, he's talked about it. He said,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy, like he doesn't believe like he thinks, he

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Speaker 1: thinks yelling and like he said, he's never yelled at

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Speaker 1: a player. He doesn't really do pregame speeches like that's

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Speaker 1: it's just not who he is. And he's he showed

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Speaker 1: you could do it a different type of He's the

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Speaker 1: anti Greg Williams. Yes exactly. Oh I know how people

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Speaker 1: in this room feel about Greg Williams. Do you have

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Speaker 1: For that? Well all right, well that's a crime, yes,

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Speaker 1: Slash Rosenthal. But you know they're giving vanity or else

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Speaker 1: to everything. Why would they could create one in five

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Speaker 1: one of those gentle reminders you're not there yet. That

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to welcome in. Here they come. Let's

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Speaker 1: bring him in. Hey, guys, wake ume, Here we go,

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Speaker 1: Here we go. There is Matt Franchise, Marcus Grant. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're making their way into the studio. Uh, look at

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Speaker 1: that Marcus tall, dark and handsome, beautiful franchise. The hair,

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Speaker 1: beautiful beard on franchise legendary. Oh I imagined both these

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Speaker 1: guys are really styling with their facial hair. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome. Yes, here they are. Now they at their

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Speaker 1: headsets on franchise and Marcus, what's up? Boys? Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. Always always excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm always excited to get the invite here, you know,

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Speaker 1: for franchise, this is his this is maiden voyage. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to be here. It wasn't sure if

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Speaker 1: I'd be welcome considering the uh the millennial beard talk

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago slander. Well, hold on, it

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Speaker 1: was not. It's not a take on millennials. It feel

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Speaker 1: like it was pointed directly at me. Well you know not,

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Speaker 1: you know, to give him a little plug here. You know,

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Speaker 1: Franchise and in our Matt Harmon host their own podcast

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Speaker 1: called The Fantasy Hipsters where they literally promote I think

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Speaker 1: beard products correct, So it feels like a direct shot Mark.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is tremendous respect between Franchise and I,

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Speaker 1: and that's so that supersedes my hot takes on like

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Speaker 1: facial hair grooming. But I but when you make a

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Speaker 1: critique about society, it's some people that you know are

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Speaker 1: going to get snowed under and you have to deal

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Speaker 1: with that fair enough. They're gonna be some kill shots

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Speaker 1: maybe part of the not personal towards you. They get

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Speaker 1: a big statement. Um, all right, So yes, Marcus was on.

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Speaker 1: Actually I was doing a little research, as I want

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Speaker 1: to do. You were on the Fantasy Extravaganza last years.

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Speaker 1: I was, I was, Um, so we're happy that Marcus back. Um,

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Speaker 1: So boys, what we're gonna talk about today? Listen, First

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Speaker 1: of all, you are you with us on this? Are

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Speaker 1: you with us or against us? With the idea of

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Speaker 1: if you're having your fantasy draft a four week three

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Speaker 1: of the preseason, I fully agree that. You know, I

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Speaker 1: know that a lot of people trying to have this

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Speaker 1: idea of, well, that's that's what the pros do, trying

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Speaker 1: to like you don't have to do that. Why why

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Speaker 1: are you increasing the level of difficult? There's an elitist

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Speaker 1: angle to it, it really is, and it doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to be there. I'm always I'm always surprised by you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the people I follow on Twitter and the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy give me. They're like finishing my thirtie best Ball

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Speaker 1: draft today and it's like July, and I'm thinking, what's

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Speaker 1: the point That. I never liked that when I was

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Speaker 1: doing fantasy for a living either, because I always thought,

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Speaker 1: what's the point of not knowing what the teams are

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Speaker 1: going into the season. There's no point to that there.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. I mean, it's analysis that doesn't help anybody

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Speaker 1: because it's going to be drastically different. You know, it

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Speaker 1: seems like a disadvantage. All right, absolutely, so we're all

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Speaker 1: on the same page. It's on board with that Franchise

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Speaker 1: of Mark have made peace at some level, although it

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Speaker 1: seems to be something hanging in the air there a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'll see if that presents itself any further

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Speaker 1: in the episode. But let's now officially start the two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen fantasy Here we go. Wow, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I made Medieval Times Part one right. It's overvalued and

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Speaker 1: undervalued talents on your fantasy board. Okay, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start here. We're gonna end the end the show with

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Speaker 1: both Marcus and franchise giving their overriding draft day fantasy philosophy,

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Speaker 1: which is more a big picture of macro. But let's

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Speaker 1: drill down here. Mark Sessler involved in the podcast. Oh

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Speaker 1: let me, yeah, let me set this up. I've said

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Speaker 1: plenty already on the Yeah. I am joined by an

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Speaker 1: incredible group here of fantasy minds. Greg Rosenthal needs no interest.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any applause? Greg Rosenthal needs no introduction.

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Speaker 1: He built rode a world brick by brick, html physically everything,

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Speaker 1: and he's with us today. Greg Rosenthal to my left,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt Franchise. Oh my goodness. They some call

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Speaker 1: him Francescovic some maybe one. Maybe you're the only ones.

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Speaker 1: But Matt Franchise has been working for NFL Fantasy for

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Speaker 1: how long? This is my fourth season? Four years? Four

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Speaker 1: years building? Uh he's he's hardened enough to be cynical

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Speaker 1: about this place. Yes or no? Uh? Yes? Okay, good

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Speaker 1: that means you're you're right on track. Uh so four

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Speaker 1: years in the game. Also on the Fantasy podcast, also

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Histors podcast, Marcus Grant an NFL media life

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Speaker 1: for thirty years from now. He's sitting in that in

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Speaker 1: that spot. Yes or no? I am the the tim

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Speaker 1: Meadows slash Keenan Thompson of NFL you know what, and

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Speaker 1: that that might be that might be seeming like you're you're,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting yourself down. But those guys were valuable values.

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Speaker 1: They had good careers. You know, people there always say

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Speaker 1: that Keenan Thompson is like the glue that holds that

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Speaker 1: think the most valuable guy. Because you said that, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to now track very closely. Who lasts longer? You

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Speaker 1: here or Tom anyway? And Mark's here? All right? Here

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Speaker 1: we go overvalued, undervalued, but we will be going to

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Speaker 1: the fantasy corner, the Mark Sesler Fantasy corners. I've got

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Speaker 1: something for you today. Yeah, okay, so all right, here

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Speaker 1: we go overvalued undervalued. I'll start with a superstar just

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Speaker 1: for fun, and you guys could throw him out too is.

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Speaker 1: But I have a list here. A J. Green, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. His average draft selection, he's going to the

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Speaker 1: round two, pick thirteen, so in most leagues that is,

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Speaker 1: you know, in every league, just about early in the

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Speaker 1: second round, almost the first rounder. Overvalued undervalue will start

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Speaker 1: with you, franchise. I think he's valued perfectly right there.

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Speaker 1: I think you can make the argument to take Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans ahead of him, maybe at the in the late

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Speaker 1: first round. I would take Green ahead of Mike Evans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the elites. I think Mike Evans has

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Speaker 1: some work to do to get there to be considered elite.

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Speaker 1: So you have Green kind of behind it would be

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Speaker 1: Brown and Julio. Yeah. Green would be my fourth behind

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Speaker 1: A B O, B J and Julio. I guessally think

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Speaker 1: he's he's undervalued a little bit. I think he used

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Speaker 1: my fourth wide receiver, but I think he deserves going

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Speaker 1: in the first round. I think after David Johnson, Levy

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Speaker 1: on Bell, there's a lot of uncertainty at the running

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Speaker 1: back spot. I mean the changes in Buffalo I think

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Speaker 1: have affected Lashawn McCoy for me. I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know Greg loves j J. I I do too,

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Speaker 1: But I still think there's a place for a J.

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Speaker 1: Green to come off the board sometime in the late

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Speaker 1: first round. I agree that would be undervalued. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think he's undervalued Green. Beckham, Beckham's got the injury. You Green, Evans,

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Speaker 1: Julio Brown. You know you're not missing with those picks.

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Speaker 1: Like once you're you're right, once you get past those

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Speaker 1: first two running backs, I'd rather have any of those

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Speaker 1: receivers really over the next running back. Since you brought

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Speaker 1: it up, I just I'll throw them out there. Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. For people they're drafting. So let's say you

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Speaker 1: have the fifth pick or the fourth pick, and you're locked.

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Speaker 1: That's a perfect spot potentially for Beckham and you have

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Speaker 1: this ankle injury and it's still very hazy what it is.

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Speaker 1: There's reports that he can miss a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough for a real draft mind to say

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Speaker 1: I'm staying away from let somebody else take him in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Not for me. I think he stays

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Speaker 1: right in that same spot. If he misses a game,

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Speaker 1: if he misses two gay games, I think I remember

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Speaker 1: he missed went a handful of games in his rookie

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Speaker 1: year and came on and still was lights out, So

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about him. Yeah, it got off to

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Speaker 1: a slow start last year. Two people were kind of

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Speaker 1: freaking out by like week four or five, and then

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Speaker 1: still finished as the top five wide out in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: So let's shoot over the fantasy corner. Mark your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Odell Beckham's ankle injury and how that could affect

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Speaker 1: his draft standing. Not only concerned not doing a draft myself,

636
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: so it's not something that's depressing on my real Wow. Okay,

637
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: now moving on and Mark, you let me know when

638
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 1: we want to throw it over to the corner if

639
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: you have Like it's more it's sort of like a

640
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: halftime show field, Like it's not really relevant from an

641
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: information perspective, So okay, intermission, if you need to leave

642
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: the room, Yeah, people need to pause and go, you know,

643
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: answer the door or something. This one. Um, Okay, next up,

644
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: I'll throw another one out there. How about another wide receiver,

645
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin of the Seahawks. I'm we talked about this

646
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: the other day. I am extremely high on the Seahawks offense.

647
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: I in a two quarterback league at which means quarterbacks

648
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: go earlier, and I'm gonna be all over Russell Wilson

649
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: potentially if a nice but if it presents itself, I

650
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: think Doug Baldwin is an unheralded guy. Has given his

651
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: production when his quarterback's healthy, averaging a third round average pick.

652
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: Marcus your thoughts on that, I think that's undervalued as well,

653
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: and I think I think he still sort of has

654
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: that stink on him from a few years ago, when

655
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, especially publicly, kind of degraded the Seahawks

656
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They talked bad about Baldwin and Jermaine Curse. Uh.

657
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: Since then, all Duck Baldwin has done, it's just put

658
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: up numbers and it's an offense that has started to

659
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: trend a little bit more toward being I won't say

660
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: pass heavy, but they're certainly throwing it more than they

661
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: did during the Beast mode heydays and Doug Baldwin is

662
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: the undisputed number one target there. So he's a guy

663
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: you know coming off the board. You said in the

664
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: third round, I have no problem reaching around earlier and

665
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: taking him in the second. Yeah, I'm with you. He's undervalued,

666
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: he's around reference. He's going behind t Y, Hilton and

667
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Brand didn't Cooks. That's insane. Rather have Baldwin than those guys.

668
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Rather have Baldwin. He's been a top ten fantasy receiver

669
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Hilt that. Yeah, Hilton's a little

670
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: insane because Hilton was insanely underrated last year won me

671
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: my league, really and he and if Luck gets back,

672
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: then he's right back to being a top guy. You haven't. Yeah,

673
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: that feels like the luck thing that Cooks is crazy.

674
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: There's an overvalue. I'll just throw that out, go ahead.

675
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Why would why would you be drafting Brandon Cooks like

676
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: he's some sort of that he's going to be their

677
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. There's a lot of mouse to

678
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: feed there. He's just one of them. I don't think

679
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: his numbers. I think his numbers go down a decent amount,

680
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: and I think it's because everybody is thirsty for Tom

681
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: Brady to have that. You know that number one locked

682
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: in target wide receiver. I mean that. I don't think

683
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: he is either, but people saw what he did in

684
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: New Orleans. They see his potential, especially as a deep

685
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: threat potentially, and I think we're just all thirsty for that.

686
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: I would rather have taken the six round. I would

687
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: take it. Why is marsha On Lynch above all these guys?

688
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: This whole list is crazy. Well, let's stick with the

689
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: Patriots second here. So like Tom Brady is a great

690
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: guy to have quarterback, we don't have to even get

691
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: into that. Uh. Julian Edelman, I think is the safe guy.

692
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: If you're looking for somebody it's gonna get targets. I

693
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: think he'll always get targets, even if he's not a

694
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: big play guy. Cooks, if you remember even last year,

695
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: he could disappear in the Saints offense from time to

696
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: time when there were a lot of weapons. So for

697
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: anybody that's gonna think, oh now they have a take

698
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: take the top off a defense option, uh, it's gonna

699
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: be Randy Moss all over again. I think you're in

700
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: for a surprise. Well it's not a good one. My

701
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: my fear with Cooks you mentioned how he disappeared, and

702
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: remember last year when he kind of disappeared, he was

703
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: unhappy about him. He let everybody know about that. That's

704
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: not gonna fly into England and if he starts to

705
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: mouth off, then he will be exiled to somewhere else.

706
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: My my one concerned about Julian Edelman is that he's

707
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: been a guy who obviously gets a ton of targets,

708
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: will catch a lot of balls, but from a yardage

709
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: and touchdown standpoint, the numbers aren't necessarily great. And now

710
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: with so many more options there, Now you've got Rex

711
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: Burkhead to get targets, You've got Brandon Cooks there. Uh.

712
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know where we are in the

713
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: evolution of Malcolm Mitchell, but I just wonder if the

714
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: same target volume is going to be there for Edelman

715
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: and how much how much that would affect I don't know.

716
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: To me, he's the he's the guy I would trust

717
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: the most. I mean, Gronk, you take obviously, you take

718
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: as early as he's going because Gronk. But yeah, I

719
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: just I can't imagine a season where Julian Edelman gets

720
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: less than eight cat can't you know when you want

721
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Julian edelone. Right, he's a useful guy to have. You

722
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the center. But if you're going into Monday

723
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: night and the Patriots are playing, and you're trailing by

724
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: eleven points, do you want Julian Edelman give you? Is nice?

725
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: He might not give you like the explosion, but he's

726
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: always going to give you something fantasy corner. What you

727
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: got well, I would say, if if if Cook's mouths off,

728
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: as you point out, people wind up where those two

729
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: ball boys wound up, which is about fifteen ft below

730
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: the mass turn. That's right. Exile from Patriot page out there.

731
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Overvalue just mentioned marsh On Lynch because that that is

732
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: one name that stands out. Am I crazy? What is

733
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: he doing there? It is? Uh, it seems crazy that

734
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: to me that Marshawn Lynch would be getting taken in

735
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: the top Yeah. I put him on my list of

736
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: riskiest picks by round. He's going about in the third round. Uh,

737
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I think people talk up the Raiders offensive

738
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: line being strong and their offense in general is you know,

739
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: kind of high flying. They think he's gonna get all

740
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: the goal line looks which yeah, and so did Latavius

741
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Murray last year, but he only have like what seven

742
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards something like that. I I look at

743
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders offense and I feel like it's greater than

744
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: the sum of its parts, you know, like they do

745
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: some good They do a lot of good things offensively

746
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: and individually. I like those players as football players. I

747
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: like Derek Carr. I like a Mari Cooper. Uh. You know,

748
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: we all want Marshawn Lynch to come back and be

749
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: a great story. He comes back, it's town business and

750
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: he puts up huge numbers. But I don't think they

751
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: need that from him. They need him to be that

752
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: guy who salted with fourth quarter can you laugh? I mean,

753
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I just I'm just curious if he's gonna last season now.

754
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: I will say I went into this camp very skeptical,

755
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: and I was kind of looking for those reports that

756
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't look great, or he's missing practices or whatever,

757
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: and those reports have not been there. He's reportedly looked good.

758
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: He played in the preseason, so he has checked some boxes.

759
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: But those the backups, he has, their talents, well, I

760
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: think that's part of it too. I Mean they know

761
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: that there's a short window where they have Marshawn Lynch,

762
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: and at some point you do have to figure out

763
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: what you have with Jalen Rochard and and DeAndre Washington,

764
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and then Marshall the other thing with Lynch

765
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 1: out of agreement, Dalvin Cook over Marshawn Lynch. Oh yeah,

766
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: all day. I think we're all on board with back

767
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: twelve anymore. And by the way, for all you people

768
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: that forgot Marshawn Lynch wasn't that good two years ago.

769
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna take a year off and ride a scooter

770
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: around Oakland and like town business and come back and

771
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: be amazing. I mean, I calmed down. If you've got

772
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: fantasy points for entertainment value, like Marshawn Lynch is a

773
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: first round pick, if you've got points for awkwardly hitting on,

774
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: he's the first round pick overall. I'm a little concerned

775
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: about his motivation to when he was retired, someone asked him,

776
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: what was the highlight of your career? He said, retiring,

777
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: And then a couple of weeks ago, a reporter asked

778
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: him if he missed football while he was away, and

779
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: he said no, it's a good point. You could see

780
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: him retire in October if it just isn't for him,

781
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: there's a ten percent chance he just retires in the

782
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: middle of the season, which sounds fair like that should

783
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: knock him down around definitely. This whole thing kind of

784
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: seems like just the fun little lark that he's on,

785
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: and maybe it lasts through January or best case scenario February.

786
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: I could last by October thousand, ten Brett Farve, that's

787
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: my projection. My projection for him. That's not a good

788
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: projection at all. I think we're reading the tea leaves here,

789
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: all right. How about j Ji came up earlier um

790
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: as a guy he looked at incredible in his final

791
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: tune up on Thursday night? Is he Greg's like banging

792
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: the table saying he potentially top five guy? Uh, Let's say,

793
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: let's put him there. Let's say first round, mid round,

794
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: first round pick five to seven, over value or undervalue franchise, Uh,

795
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 1: five to seven. I have him as my running back three,

796
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: so behind Love Bell and David Johnson. That's basically that's

797
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: first round, ahead of Lashawn McCoy, Melvin Gordon, DeVonta Freeman. Look,

798
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: he didn't really like it. I like that he didn't

799
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: really get going last year till Week five when Arian

800
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Foster went out and he still put up crazy nowt

801
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: left home, he didn't get on an airplane. It starts

802
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: week one. Gets more work in the passing game, gets

803
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: more carries, higher volume. This year, he's gonna explode. Their

804
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: line to me was so bad when you people were like, wow,

805
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: he only had those three big games. Sometimes he had

806
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: some of the greatest sixty five yard rushing years ever.

807
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: And I think over time, like this season, that'll start

808
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: playing out to better game. I was gonna say, playing

809
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Devil's Lavoca, I was gonna say he had I think

810
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: to yard games last year. If you take out those games,

811
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: he had several middling efforts and was the team I

812
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: really believe. Doesn't hell your fantasy numbers though the team has.

813
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, over time, if he's that good a

814
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: player and he looks even better, will bear out, the

815
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: numbers will bear out. Also, he has the benefit of

816
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: being a workhorse running back with no one really behind him.

817
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: The challenge for carries and those guys are rare. I

818
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: love mel Gordon and DeVante Freeman, but in fantasy I

819
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: would much rather have a bet. But the buzzy first

820
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: round pick. If if a Gie is the buzzy running

821
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: back first round pick this year, Lamar Miller, who I

822
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: was pounding the table about last year, shows you how

823
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: crazy fantasy nobody's talking about Lamar Miller in two thousand seventeen.

824
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: What's his value in drafts this year? I think right

825
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: now he's what like a third round guy and something

826
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: like that. Um. I feel like last year was the

827
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: great disillusionment of Lamar Miller because a lot of us,

828
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: myself included, kept saying for years like he will be

829
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: so much better if the Dolphins give him all the

830
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: carries we think he deserves. And then last year he

831
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: gets to Houston and he gets all the carries we

832
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: think he deserves, and he faded at the end of

833
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: the year. Then they bring in Dante Foreman, who he

834
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: might start. He's certainly going to be the guy I think. UM,

835
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: not areak one, but I think he could interrupt your

836
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: your Lamar Miller since I just I feel like last year,

837
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: the you know, we had the wool pulled from our

838
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: eyes and we realized that Lamar Miller maybe isn't the

839
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: guy we wanted. Lamar Miller to me has always been

840
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: kind of like a piece of you know, white toast,

841
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: like it's fine and fill you up like, let's not

842
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: You're not You're not clamoring. There's gonna be guys with

843
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, higher potential, maybe some rye, you know,

844
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: maybe some on it. I mean people sleep on rye

845
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: a little bit out here in California. And I know,

846
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, now Marcus is gonna get upset because he's

847
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: a California. But you guys have never appreciate what a

848
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: good piece of rye bread is nice turkey sandwich good.

849
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Maybe rye is not high in my power ranking types

850
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: of bread. I'm going rye number one. Sour dough, sour

851
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: dough for sure. I love pamper Nickels a sleeper though,

852
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: oh underrated. Wow this is so this is so hot

853
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: right now, let's take a breather here and so far

854
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: think it's been an incredible fantasy extravaganza and we just

855
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: went up. But now let's formally head over to uh

856
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: the fantasy corner. It's a very bad neighborhood. Mark is

857
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: wearing a kevlar vest and he seems to have a

858
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: finger in a splint. A little worse for the wear

859
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: on the corner and Marco's throw to you. You have

860
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: a statement or some type of message, Well, I have

861
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: a new UH. I came up with my own new

862
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: metrics UH Fantasy metrics scenario lost stop season, Here we go.

863
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I want to talk with you today about a collection

864
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: of guys who belonged to my max Flex Triggers group.

865
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: What is a max flex trigger? These are low price,

866
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: moderate ceiling players who are primed to come in and

867
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: possibly make a late season contribution. I deduced my max

868
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: flex trigger's list by pouring over two to three hundred

869
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: hours of college film and early pro snaps. It's a

870
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: claim nobody can really disprove it. Mark, I just found

871
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: some safe, covert safety. I found a little an abandoned

872
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: apartment building and away from the noise. Let's continue from here.

873
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: Using a self created and dense scientific method, I then

874
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: chart out each player's SPARK score, academic achievements, community involvement

875
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: in on field handiwork to compile my list of max

876
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: flex triggers. These are players with the mental toughness to

877
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: be comprehensively ignored by the fantasy community and in many cases,

878
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: their own coaches. The players with the potential to see

879
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: late season snaps if literally everything went wrong for their

880
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: teams between now and then. Without further ado my two

881
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen list of max Flex triggers. Number one running

882
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: back Jahad Thomas, number two wide receivers c J board,

883
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: Number three running back Calif Phillips, number four, Russell hands

884
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: bro running back in all formats. Number five running back

885
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: Elijah Penny, number six, wide receiver c J board already

886
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: mentioned him. Got to go after that guy. Number eight,

887
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: height end Vonnie Frills, number nine tight ends Charisse It

888
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: is a Woman. Number nine, Titan Serie Slim Auto B

889
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: number ten, pass catching fullback George Saturn, the third, number eleven,

890
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: chiefs Chief's Office and admin Iris Jenkles, number twelve Hatriots

891
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: A V Room Whiz, Ronnie Slim Wheezy, and finally number

892
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: thirteen free agent ticket sales Rep. Rhonda Fontaine, previously of

893
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, Currently unemployed, Miss Fontaine is not

894
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: a mustab pick up today, but grab her the minute

895
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: she finds work. Last we heard, Miss Fontaine had gone

896
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: through an ugly breakup with her on again, off again boyfriend,

897
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: William Frank's. Miss Fontaine, age thirty seven is hoping to

898
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: relocate to the Chicago area, where she can live with

899
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: her sister Patsy Bumbles, and possibly pick up work as

900
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: a ticket sales rep with the Bears. We are monitoring

901
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Fontaine's linked in account very closely, and we'll update this

902
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: space if Rhonda Fontaine strikes a new job with the league.

903
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: If and when that happens, she moves to the top

904
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: of my max Flex triggers list. I feel, you know,

905
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: my now I realized that my my fault in doing

906
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: my player evaluations is that I didn't do as much

907
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: community involvement. I think it's a big part of it

908
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: creates a well rounded individual, right. I left that out,

909
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: left that the ticket sales people, yeah, you know, or

910
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: the real which really was an oversight on the people

911
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: that existed. That Bodie Thrills really maybe started to cry,

912
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: George Saturn real, George mean, the entire family line is real, Okay.

913
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: In the first rest of Peace, yeah right, in the

914
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: second rest in piece as well, he's got a chip

915
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: on his shoulder, he's got a lot of loneliness and

916
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: like a Batman, Like that's very similar to Batman. All right, Uh, Max, Max,

917
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: what it was it max Flex max Flex tricker Kifen Flex,

918
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: Ellie f elie x trigger is this is this a

919
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: direct challenge to the reception perception. I think the very different,

920
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: the very for scientific process. You're branding this, I'm branding

921
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: it because again, I like when I say that I

922
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: watch all this tape, it cannot be proven that I

923
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: do or I do not. Alright, moving off the fantasy corner,

924
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: Mark Seek Shelter, Uh, you're in deep trouble. All right,

925
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: let's throw out. I'm gonna throw out a tight end.

926
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: I like this one is an interesting one because I

927
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: think it's people get stumble on this guy every time

928
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: because you can never really figure out what he's gonna

929
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: do or if even if he's gonna stay on the field.

930
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Marty Bennett, Uh went from the pack from the Patriots

931
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: now to the Packers, talk about going from riches to riches.

932
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: He's going round ten average pick ninety four, which tells you,

933
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: I think, let me know if I'm wrong. Guys that

934
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: nobody really knows where to take him. And and that's

935
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: kind of where you nestle on his average pick, where

936
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: he's probably going earlier on some boards and later on others.

937
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: What's Marty? What do you make overvalue, undervalue teh round pick.

938
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: I think he's undervalued. I I may be irrationally excited

939
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: about Marty Bennett just because, first off, how often can

940
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: you leave Tom Brady and not uh, you know, experiencing

941
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: drop off in quarterback? Limy somehow did that. And I

942
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: just like what the potential of having an athletic pass

943
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: catching tight end can mean in that pack of offense.

944
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw it late in the season with

945
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Cook last year. Um, So I like him. I

946
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: I think I think I took him in the eighth

947
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: round in one draft, but I like that. I think

948
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: I maybe maybe higher on him than some other people are.

949
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: I struggle with Jordan Read going five rounds higher in

950
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: the fifth just because you cannot countn't count on him right. Well,

951
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: Marty has his issues too. He seems to miss games

952
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: and be beat up, and certainly was the case last year,

953
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: but he was still productive. There is a scenario where

954
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Bennett stays on the field and everything lines up and

955
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: he has a gronky type year. I believe he has

956
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: that type of ability, and yeah, the Jared Cook thing,

957
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what would suck me into taking a

958
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: chance on him in the seven, eight nine round. Uh,

959
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: the idea that what Cook was able to do with Rogers,

960
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Bennett is a better player, right, I like waiting at

961
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: tight end and Hunter Henry going in the ninth through

962
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: the ten. That's another guy really like, you don't worry

963
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: about the old man stealing a end zone. Go to Henry.

964
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: Henry I think led the league led tight ends and

965
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year and Gates was getting plenty then and

966
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: they have to go Gates that record though, right, I

967
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: feel like once they once they get him in the record,

968
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: then they started back off a little bit. I think

969
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: Henry won't really reach his ceiling and fantasy till Gates

970
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: is out of the picture. Yeah, I'd see him getting

971
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand yards. I love me some Henry. And

972
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: then Jimmy Graham late fifth three. I think Jimmy Graham

973
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: could have a monster. There's been a good buzz about Jimmy.

974
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: And again, if you are high on the Seahawks offense,

975
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: not only is Russell Wilson have Doug Baldwin, he's got

976
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham now a full what year and a half

977
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: removed from that surgery? What happens if he's Jimmy Graham.

978
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the two hundred and twenty second pick.

979
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: I've I've scanned for everything where the f is Seth

980
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: DeValve on this list deep there. I think there are

981
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot of deep sleepers that tied end. I think

982
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: Seth the Valve is one. I think Austin Hooper is one.

983
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: Devolve seriously, I think so. I mean they got Derek

984
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: You's a deep sleeper though, because tight end here's the

985
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: tight end is sort of a fantasy waste land in

986
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: the sense that you've got you know, Gronk's gonna be good,

987
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: you know Kelsey is gonna be good, Olsen, Jimmy Grammer fine.

988
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: After that, it really is sort of a crapshoot at

989
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: that position. And and if you're not getting one of

990
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: those top four or five guys, you're probably streaming the position.

991
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: And the valve could have some good weeks in there.

992
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Hunter Henry leading tight ends and touchdowns.

993
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: He actually tied with Cameron Braid for eight last year.

994
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about Cameron Braid. Everything. Everyone thinks O. J.

995
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: Howard is going to be the guy there dead you

996
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: can get Cameron Braid for free in a fantasy draft

997
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: in the last round. I like, it doesn't get cheaper

998
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: than that. I also like Hunter Henry, like Harrison Hansas

999
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: a double H out of respect. Hey, how about let's

1000
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: go back to the Packers real quick? A guy I

1001
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: can't figure out. I was doing a little research um

1002
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: for my draft a couple of days ago, and I

1003
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: had time Montgomery on my stay away from list, just

1004
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: because I don't have a great feeling about the whole thing.

1005
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Round seven, he's going average picks sixties. Seventh round seems

1006
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: like over value to me. Where do you guys come

1007
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: down on it? I think seven. I think a little

1008
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the summer he was he was going in

1009
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round. So his ADPs come down

1010
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: a little bit because he hasn't been on the field.

1011
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: He's dealing with some injuries. They got Jamal Williams back there,

1012
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: who's had a decent preseason. Um. I just think the

1013
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: concern with Montgomery is a sickle sell thing and volume concerns,

1014
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: Like they want him to be the guy, but I

1015
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: don't think he had more than ten or twelve carries

1016
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: in a game last year. And there's also question marks

1017
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: for him in past protection. So at that price that

1018
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. Seventh round I think is okay, but

1019
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: it's still a question mark. They have all these other

1020
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: guys back there. I have big weeks, haven't. The other

1021
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: guys are just but I'm sort of with Dan, and

1022
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: then I just I don't really know. I don't have

1023
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: any real good feeling on what they're gonna do with

1024
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: him one way or another. I think even at his best,

1025
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: he's maybe guy who gets about fifteen or so touches

1026
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: per game, which you know he's he's not. He's a

1027
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: flex starter at best. I think, for me, what are

1028
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: you guys doing not to jump in here? What are

1029
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: you guys thinking of doing with Zeke? This draft prices

1030
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: is a little too aggressive for Me's going like second,

1031
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: second round, right and and everybody says it's it's a yes,

1032
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: it is right now. A six game suspension for Zeke

1033
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: for your purposes and fantasy, it's a seven week suspension.

1034
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have a buy in there, you don't. So

1035
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: best case scenario, you don't have Zeke until Week eight,

1036
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: which is it's like two thirds of your fantasy regular season.

1037
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: You're holding a roster spot and you're hoping you make

1038
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs to stay relevant when he comes back. For

1039
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: some reason, I thought it was four and it's six.

1040
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: It's six with a by it's half. A second second

1041
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: round pick is just too rich for It's showing some

1042
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: confidence though, if you like just believe that you're good

1043
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: at drafting and that your teams are always it's like

1044
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: you'll be in the mix you draft a little actually,

1045
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: like the second is high second, like I would still

1046
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: rather have have uh, some of those receivers that are

1047
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: probably going in the middle of the second round. That's

1048
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: like you get those guys from week one and they're

1049
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: maybe almost not got a Zeke anything. I read everyone

1050
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: in your fantasy team to agree to not pick him

1051
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: because someone's gonna grab him. Somebody's gonna say. I mean,

1052
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I would rather skip Zeke in the second.

1053
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather skip Zeke in the second dangerous over and

1054
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: wait until waits like the fifth round and get a

1055
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: guy like Doug Martin who is still gonna miss some time,

1056
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: but you'll get him back a lot sooner and potentially

1057
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: get you know, a starting running back on your roster.

1058
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: It's the classic, like barroom talk cliche or when you're

1059
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: just talking to your buddies, like if someone's hurt. In

1060
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: this case is suspension is like, hey man, when Zeke

1061
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: gets back, it's like a blockbuster trade for your team.

1062
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: You didn't give anything up? Yeah, whatever, to find something

1063
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: better to talk about in the bar room. Second round

1064
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: pick is ridiculous. Hey, let's throw out Andrew Luck. All right, Well,

1065
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: you know the situation here. We know the situation, and

1066
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: the fact that we don't know the situation he's going

1067
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: in the eighth round, which tells you a lot. Andrew

1068
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: Luck is a oerational talent at quarterback, so everyone is

1069
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: spooked by the shoulder, as they should be. Is that

1070
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: proper value for a quarterback of his ilk facing an

1071
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: uncertain health situation? I still think it's it's a touch early,

1072
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: but it's it's coming down. I mean, if you if

1073
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: we had been talking to you a couple of weeks ago,

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00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: I think he was still hanging around like the fifth

1075
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: round or something like that. So so this uncertainty has

1076
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: has certainly plummeted his value. But we don't know when

1077
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: he's going to be back on the field, and you're

1078
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: talking about you can wait a round or two later,

1079
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: and there's still really quality guys out there, like Kirk Cousins,

1080
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: like Marcus Mariota, even Jamis Winston hanging around. I'd rather,

1081
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather take any of those guys and know that

1082
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: they will be there for me in week one. You're

1083
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: a fool if you're taking Andrew okay, because you know,

1084
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott or Stafford or any Ben. Raethlisberger's going

1085
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: going way after him, like going at Like why wouldn't

1086
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: not just take those guys there? Just quarterback? Don't overthink

1087
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: bro when he comes back, it's like a blockbuster. I mean,

1088
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott might be better than it's also not You're

1089
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily getting Andrew luck from two thousand fourteen. You're

1090
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: getting like post surgery and your luck on the post

1091
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: post social shoulder surgery on a team that had a

1092
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: bad offensive line last year that might be worst this year.

1093
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: You draft and your luck there. Stop playing fantasy, alright,

1094
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: quick lightning round each of you guys, um give me

1095
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: one more overvalue undervalue, and then we've got to move

1096
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: on to philosophies and get out of here. I think

1097
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: right now overvalued. Remember four, Nette might starting to be

1098
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: overvalued simply because as long as the Jaguars struggle to

1099
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: figure out their their quarterback situation, that's going to hurt

1100
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett's potential production. Uh my undervalued guy right now,

1101
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: maybe Devonte Parker um with the change at quarterback. I mean, look,

1102
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: it caught my attention when Jay Cutler said DeVante Parker

1103
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: is a faster all Shan Jeffrey And I don't know

1104
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: if the rest of the world has clued in just yet,

1105
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: but right now Parkers hanging around th seventh, eighth round.

1106
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: Now that's Cutler even knows he's on his team. That's

1107
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued. What about French overvalued? I'm gonna go

1108
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: Spencer where he just doesn't do it for me in

1109
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: the fifth round? Got Kareem Hunt. I love Kareem Hunt,

1110
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: And uh my undervalued is gonna be Kelvin Benjamin because

1111
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: you can get him in like the sixth round as

1112
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: like your flex wide receiver and he's doing nothing but

1113
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns in the preseason and everyone still thinks he's

1114
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: fat or something. That it seems all right, that's correct.

1115
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Just come that was pretty good, that's correct, that I

1116
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: did it very proud. Okay, here we go, Greg, did

1117
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: you have anything else? That one more throwing? Real? Garrett

1118
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: Blunt is a terrible draft pick. He's going real if

1119
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't care that he didn't look in the preseason.

1120
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 1: It seems like he's just gonna be a role player there, Mark,

1121
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea to Marco Murrays the twelfth

1122
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: overall pick, to be honest team, that's a little much.

1123
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: Um Derrick Henry, the guy's not playing. I just said it.

1124
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: I can of that. That's all right. Finally, Okay, who

1125
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: wants to go first? Though I don't. I'll do my

1126
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: draft philosophy. Here we go. Let me set this up

1127
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: so now, because we have fantasy professionals, uh in our

1128
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: midst that you are as well, Greg little outside the game. Now,

1129
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: I still respect your knowledge for sure, but these guys

1130
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: are active, active grades in the industry. And I want you,

1131
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: guys to imagine yourselves speaking in front of a class

1132
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: of graduates of Fantasy You and you are the keynote speaker.

1133
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: What do they call it when you get the stupid

1134
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: diploma that you didn't the honorary honorary doctorate, honorary degree. Yeah, yeah,

1135
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: and you're wearing the stupid outfit and the whole thing,

1136
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: and you're you. You want to impart some wisdom of

1137
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: fantasy philosophy to all these young kids that are just

1138
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: entering the fantasy realm with so much eyes wide open,

1139
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: so filled with hope. Franchise speak to him, all right, kids,

1140
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: listen up. Don't don't buy into the latest draft trends.

1141
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: You know last year was zero wide receiver. If you

1142
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: went that route, you probably got burned because you were

1143
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: drafting guys like DeAndre Hopkins and Allen Robinson in the

1144
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: second round when you could have got to Marco Murray

1145
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: and Lashawn McCoy and one year league you got banged.

1146
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: Don't let position dictate how you're drafting zig when the

1147
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: rest of your league is zagging, and take advantage of

1148
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, the trends as the draft is happening. The

1149
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: bridge Marcus understand, kids, When you look at a list

1150
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: and you see average draft positions, those are people trying

1151
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: to make rules for you. You You don't have to follow

1152
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: the rules. You can blaze your own path. Think of

1153
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: the ADP as a suggestion. You have a guy that

1154
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: you like and the rest of the world tells you. You

1155
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: You have to wait until the fifth round. Go get

1156
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: your guy, get them, go get your guy. Have the

1157
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: confidence to believe that you are making the right choice,

1158
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: and you will be fantasy manager. So yes, going to

1159
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: the real world. The world is your oyster kids firing. Wow,

1160
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: that's my that's my dr SEUs. The places you will

1161
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: go Marcus was new Rockney. I would run through a

1162
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: wall for you, Marcus Wow. And that franchise. Okay, guys,

1163
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: thank you very much, So all right, tell us a

1164
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: little bit um some plugs before we go. You guys

1165
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: are both on Twitter obviously, Handles at Matt franchise at

1166
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: Marcus g It's Marcus with an Ah. Make sure you

1167
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: get that right. The Fantasy Live podcast twice a week

1168
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: Monday Thursday, twice a week. They are part of the

1169
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: NFL Media podcast Umbrella and they do great work on that,

1170
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out and of course

1171
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: all their pages at NFL dot com. Uh. The NFL

1172
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live by the way back on NFL Network September four,

1173
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: Labor Day, Monday, a three hour Extravaganzas about that extravaganzas

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01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of our sorry can I say spectacular? Literally anything

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Speaker 1: else spectacular. Then that's spectacular. Okay, cool, very good. Alright,

1176
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: there we go. Thank you very much. Thanks guys. We'll

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01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 1: be back on Monday. Uh so, thank you everybody for listening.

1178
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Speaker 1: It's this Quiet Storm. Dan Handa signing off for the

1179
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, Marcus Grant, the franchise, The Boss and LC

1180
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: behind the Glass still Monday. Wait, no need for here

1181
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: we go do it? We should? I not cut that off?

1182
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: You want to keep going? No, that's good. That's all

1183
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 1: I have after the show. Please put that in after.

1184
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool. I'm one of the cool kids, don't you. Guys,

1185
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry. Okay,