1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Contious very quickly. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: It's not about somebody who is staying, just staying and 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: something like some forces. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Supportive of this idea. I'm supporting the idea of contingence 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: like a part of security guarantees, because if they have 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: one million point five army and if we will have 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: less two times, it meant that we need contingents with 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: a very strong number of soldiers. Theresa dissage from all 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: the Europeans of two hundred thousand. It's a minimum, Okay, 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: it's a minimum. 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Otherwise it's nothing. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Otherwise it's something you know, like somebody like we had 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: a SCEE and nobody knew what where they. 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Can help you. 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Just they had just they had offices, and that's all. 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: It's great if we will have troops, but we have 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: to understand that the troops will not be in the 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: center of the capital. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: Yes, they will not have relaxed time. Yes, it's it's 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: very important. 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Because I heard them some allies said that, yes, but 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: it's okay, we can be in the center of some 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: city and no, no, no, we don't need such continue contingent. 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: You want to outline, yes without without without with our 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: people of course, yes, because this means security. 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: And and that's it. 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: So but it can't be. It can't be without the 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: United States. I will explain you why even if some 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: European friends think that it can be, No, it will 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: not be. First of all, nobody will risk without the 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: United States. The second, that's what can divide. Need to 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: divide EU and USA. That is a goal and dream 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: of puttin to divide this unity. 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: these people. You've not got a free shot on all 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: these networks lying about the people. 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: The people have had a belly full of it. I 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: to do everything in the world to stop that, but 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: you're not going to stop it. 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: It's going to happen. 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: And where do people like that go to share the 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: big line? Mega media? 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: I wish in my soul, I wish that any. 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: my task and what is my purpose? 49 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 5: If that answer is to save. 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: My country, this country will be saved. 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: Worry use your host, Stephen k. 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 4: Maan Okay Wednesday, twenty two January year over the Lord 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, a day packed with action from the 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: White House to all the different departments and also you 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 4: know some of the global centers. What were happening on 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: the border capital markets are We get to all that. 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: But I've got to want to go back to Davos 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: because the folks, we told you this was coming, and man, 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: it's coming and trolling hard. A big Bloomberg story out 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: on the negotiations of potential negotiations, and then President Trump 61 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: making some statements late this afternoon to go. I've got 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: nor Ben Lauden and she's got two stories. One we're 63 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: going to deal with this, and of course the great 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: Ben Harnwell from Rome nor from. 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Davos, Switzerland. Ben. 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: It couldn't be any clearer. We've been the strongest advocates 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: of you got to force the ceasefire immediately and start 68 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: the negotiation, set a framework and push on. This cannot 69 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: be what the established order wants is for President Trump 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: to be forced to embrace this war. Then it's his war, 71 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: and then it's a total complete disaster. I want to 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: play both clips, the Clips show and evolution in the 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: Bloomberg and other stories showing evolution. 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Things are evolving. 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: Zelensky today in his talk afters talk doing some Q 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: and A, says, hey, drops a bomb, which you talked 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: about with nor in the Morning show. Two hundred thousand, 78 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: two hundred thousand men combat troops as security forces, as 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: security forces then and we said, hey, he's implying fifty 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: thousand Americans. Who's saying two to fifty. Then afterwards he 81 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: says he drops the bomb. No, it absolutely has to 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: have American troops because he said two things. Number one, 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: none of the Europeans will credible by themselves, and they 84 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 4: won't do it if America doesn't. 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Number two, he says, you can't allow NATO to. 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Be divided or the Europe to be divided between that's 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: what Russia wants. Ben Harnwell, your thoughts, sir, this is 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: we're going down the slippery slope, and I hope and 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: pray the present go as the microphone of Mars has ceasefire, 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: freezing place. Let's get to the negotiating table. And for 91 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: this audience, absolutely no way impossible. These security forces are 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: gonna be held hostage by the Russians. Essentially, they cannot 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: be One American boy and girl over there. Ben Harnwell, 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: your discussion of the Bloomberg piece, of these other pieces 95 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: coming at President Trump talking about making comments about the Russians. 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: Everything I see so far, to me, I don't think 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: is headed into the right direction. 98 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: Right. 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: Friends of Trump would be putting pressure on Zelenski first off, 100 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: to shut up right and and not try to intimidate 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: us uh and and try to try to suck America 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 4: into this security force. Sir probably just drops hormone. Gosh, 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: we're gonna get right back up. But let's get to 104 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: nor Ben Laden. Your thoughts on your thoughts on sorry 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: we lost Ben will game a second, your thoughts on 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: Zelensky in particularly you're in Davos. 107 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: You saw the evolution this now. 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, when Zelensky went, he was 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: the rock star of rock stars. I take it now 110 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: they'd rather forget about this guy. 111 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 6: The first thing I'd like to say, Steve, is that 112 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 6: this man has absolutely no shame in making these demands 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 6: of the European Member States and of America. After siphoning 114 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 6: so much money, so many billions, he now wants American 115 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 6: lives to be sacrificed alongside of how many hundreds of 116 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 6: thousands of his own people, but as we mentioned on 117 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: the show earlier this morning, they have a complete disregard 118 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 6: for human life and just want to keep this conflict 119 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 6: dragging on. He should be demanding that President Trump actually 120 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 6: takes action and stops this conflict within twenty four hours, 121 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 6: as he had claimed he would and said he would. 122 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Hang one second, I want to get right back to you, Nora. 123 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: We got Ben up Ben the evolution of this early 124 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: in the day at DeVos. It's two hundred thousand security forces, 125 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: where I think people are shocked by the number, and 126 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: then afterwards it's, oh, by the way, the United States 127 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: essentially has to be US security force. Europe can't do it, 128 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: won't do it, and they certainly won't do and less 129 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: America's in thoughts. 130 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: Good evening, Steve Evening More. 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, when the original comment came out yesterday about 132 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 7: the two thousand, two hundred thousand peacekeepers necessary, Zelensky was 133 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 7: clear to stress that he was talking about from the 134 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 7: European side of the theater, and I thought, Okay, you 135 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 7: know he's made similar soundings. 136 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Before, He's not put a number on it. 137 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 7: But I didn't see straight away that this was sort 138 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 7: of grade A level news, And I thought, because, after all, 139 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 7: he's not talking about dragging America into this. He's always 140 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 7: said he needs American many American sort of equipment, but 141 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 7: he's always backed off for saying explicitly we need American 142 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 7: boots on the ground. When this story dropped today, basically 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 7: it was wow. Not because of necessarily Steve what he said, 144 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 7: and I go, I repeat just a moment the direct 145 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 7: quote he said, but the full frontal lack of respect 146 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 7: to President Trump in him saying it now on the 147 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 7: second day after he's taken office. This is before they've 148 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 7: sat down, before they've talked, Before General Lieutenant General Kellogg 149 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 7: has gone over there, before talks has started. Zelensky has 150 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 7: tempted effectively to put a spin curve on the ball 151 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: and catch President Trump on the offbeat. This is what, 152 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 7: as I say, massive sign of disrespect on behalf of 153 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 7: the Zelenski effort towards President Trump. 154 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: This is what he says. You heard it in the 155 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: cold open. 156 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 7: It can't be without the United States, even if some 157 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 7: European friends think it can be. No, it can't be. 158 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 7: Nobody will risk without the United States. Well, look, if 159 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 7: that analysis is true. Somebody on the American end needs 160 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 7: to tell this to Zelenski asap, that. 161 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: This is not going to happen. 162 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 7: As far as I'm aware, none of the three present 163 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 7: plans that are circulating in the around President Trump involved 164 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 7: American boots on the ground. 165 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: None of them, right. But you know, whatever President. 166 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 7: Trump is thinking, and he's spoken hypothetically of wrapping this 167 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 7: about about six months, General Kellogg says one hundred days. 168 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: But whatever they're talking about, they're talking about. 169 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 7: Money and arms and not American boots on the ground. 170 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, that's dead before it's either started. 171 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 7: If Zelenski's position is without American boots on the ground, 172 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 7: American security guarantees are worthless. This needs to be communicated 173 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 7: to him asap so he can act accordingly. And by 174 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 7: acting accordingly, I mean go now to the negotiating table 175 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 7: with President Putin, because the situation is this what the 176 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 7: primary plan, right the Kellogg flights Gorka plan is to 177 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 7: get Ukraine to the negotiating table under the promise of 178 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 7: further support. And if Russia doesn't join the negotiating table, 179 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 7: they're going to give even more support to Ukraine. And 180 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 7: once they have a peace in order to make that 181 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 7: peace stable more support to Ukraine. Steve, I reject that 182 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 7: plan out of hand. You know who am I, But 183 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 7: I reject that plan. I think all of our listeners 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 7: on the one will reject that out of out of hand. Right, 185 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 7: It's not what president promised a president promised in the 186 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 7: election campaign, which was a ceasefire within twenty four hours. 187 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: If Zelenski is operating under. 188 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 7: The position and he's talking to the European capitals on 189 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 7: the expectation that America is going to commit boots on 190 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 7: the ground as part of its security guarantees, they need 191 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 7: to know this because the. 192 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: American position is Kellogg's. 193 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 7: General Kellogg's position is at the moment Ukraine needs to 194 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 7: stabilize its frontier and in a position of stability then 195 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 7: negotiate with Russia. 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: Steve, that position in and of itself, with all due. 197 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 7: Respect to General Kellogg, is absurd because there is no 198 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 7: stability in Ukraine's frontier frontiers. Russia is gaining ground in 199 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 7: Ukraine at a faster rate now than in three years 200 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 7: of the war. So if the Biden hasn't been able 201 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 7: to maintain Biden support, I'll give you on this point 202 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 7: stef If Biden hasn't been able to maintain a stable 203 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 7: frontier in Ukraine with all the commitment that America has 204 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 7: given right now, to get to General Kellogg's starting point 205 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 7: for negotiations, America now would need to give even more 206 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 7: than it's been given and given so far. This is 207 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 7: this is this is a it's what you said to 208 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 7: Steve in your interview, to put it to go. America 209 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 7: is now setting itself up for a second Vietnam. 210 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: This is where they're going to try to tank President Trump, 211 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: who had nothing to do with this for war, try 212 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: to stop this when the war never started, if he 213 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: hadn't had the twenty twenty elections stolen. 214 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: That's what's so algeriationis about this. I think it gets 215 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: worse though. 216 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: When you go and you go and break down that position, 217 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: because the Ukrainians just said for the fourth and fifth 218 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: time they're not going to change the laws to get 219 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: the eight Right now, they have a five hundred thousand 220 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: man shortage of combat troops. Why do they have that 221 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: because so many are dead or wounded, right somebody are 222 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: dead or wounded. They got to replenish that. They don't 223 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: draft anybody under twenty six. The people once again have rejected. 224 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: It's not even a bill. I don't think in parliament anymore. 225 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: The eighteen to twenty six to get a stabilized front, 226 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: it's not just with seven of these guys. It's not 227 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: just arms and weapons would give and so much right now, 228 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: you actually need bodies, you need combat troops to have 229 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: a stability. 230 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: There's not there. They're not Ukrainians. So it's going to 231 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: come from two sources. 232 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: It's going to come from either NATO and European or 233 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: from the United States. Just to get to the negotiating table. 234 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: This thing makes no sense. This is going to be 235 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: a quagmar because you've got these shifting things, and you 236 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 4: know how these guys are. They're going to say one 237 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: thing one day and then Zelenski is as slipper as 238 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: you can get. We're gonna put our national prestige, more 239 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: cash and more importantly, they're sucking in that. He just 240 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: said right there, Europe can't do it. You can't have 241 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: you can't have a piece of a security force. You 242 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 4: can't have a security force without troops. And those troops 243 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: have to be a large proportion have to be American 244 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: because Europeans either can't provided or nobody take it seriously. 245 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: But why they don't put any money? They're on forces, 246 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: they can't fight the Russians. Do we start this that 247 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 4: now we're going to put our sons and daughters in 248 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: the front line, and you as essentially hostages. 249 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Right now. 250 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: We have twenty eight thousand I would argue almost hostages 251 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: right now in South Korea as that country goes to 252 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: a coup that's set up by the Chinese Commuist Party. Hell, 253 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: they got the president, you know, one day he's in 254 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: the presidential palace. Next day is the wrestling. We've got 255 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: twenty eight thousand combat troops over there. We got to 256 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: dig our ways out of these holes. They're trying to 257 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: ensnare and trap President Trumpet every step of the way, 258 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: every step of the way. Immediate ceasefire, immediate seas fire. 259 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: And the pressure got going. Zelenski, I need you to 260 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: get to the negotiating table. 261 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Let's stop kidding ourselves about this territory. This is not 262 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: our fight. 263 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: They lost his territory, NATO, the European nations, Zelenski, they 264 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: lost that territory, not us. We gave two hundred and 265 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: fifty billion dollars. Sure commercial break back in a moment America. 266 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: Oh Stephen came back. 267 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: If you don't think it's turbulent enough for you, And 268 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: we got fifty different stories. We're covering this. We're trying 269 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: to juggles so much actions taking place. We're trying to 270 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: cover the big ones, the end of the kinetic war, 271 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: the deportations, and the ceiling of the border in the 272 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: capital markets, but there's so much else going on, including 273 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: the JA six parties are trying to give enough to 274 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: because the non execution of this is showing you what's 275 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: happening with the administrative state. They already leaked out the 276 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: border that we're not in Chicago. Yes, so you're not 277 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: in Chicago again today because of the because of the 278 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: administrative state leaking birch Gold dot com. We're huge believers 279 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: are in the warm. 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Maybe we have to have 289 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: a national conversation about the end of the postwar international 290 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: rules based ortis. Secretary now of State Marco Rubio said 291 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: that in his opening statement the other day to the 292 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: to the Center for his confirmation. 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Check it out Birch Gold 304 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: dot com, slash Bennon. Really love those guys of this, 305 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: so go check out talk to him, nor beIN Laden. 306 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: I'm a pivot here in a second. For now, ben 307 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: Hard was going to read President Trump's words and look, 308 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 4: we're here we're always telling truth that President Trump, We're 309 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: always giving his advice. We understand this thing. These things 310 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: get complicated, and President Trump likes you standing your ground, 311 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: making your case, you know, pushing your case forward. And 312 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: then at some point in time he makes a decision, 313 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: you know, getting back of understand his decision and getting 314 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: back of it. You lose fair and square, or sometimes 315 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: you win nor But I want to go back to Zelensky. 316 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 4: And because a couple of years ago this guy went 317 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: in the whole world stopped they being him into Hollywood. 318 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: I remember seeing Davos right when the war started. This 319 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: guy was like the earth stood still. And this was 320 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: Churchill of the twenty first century. 321 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: How is he? 322 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: How is he perceived today? Is it a big audience? 323 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: Is the place packed or people hanging on every word? 324 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: And see the center of attention in DeVos. 325 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 6: Listen, Ukraine is very much still a key point here 326 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 6: at Davos this week as evidence as well by Ukraine House. 327 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 6: It is always packed. You have many people lining up 328 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 6: to attend the different panels. So there is very much 329 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 6: a vested interest of the Davos cult into how this 330 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 6: conflict plays out, especially since there are so many financial 331 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 6: interests in the rebuilding of the country, as we've discussed before. 332 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 6: But to come back to his comments that he made today, 333 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 6: and I couldn't agree more with you, Steve, Not a 334 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 6: single man or woman of American troops should be going there, 335 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 6: And essentially it is so counterproductive in if you're hoping 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 6: to reach a deal, which is what President Trump has 337 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: been repeating up to now, is that a deal needs 338 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 6: to be reached. Even in his post today, calling for 339 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 6: American troops on the ground will make that deal obviously 340 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 6: much more difficult to be reached. So as a Lensky 341 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: obviously knows that. But it is a clear provocation to 342 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 6: further escalate this war and continue dragging on much longer. 343 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: Ben Harnwell, President Trump jumped in here to stay afternoon 344 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: with a true social post. 345 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Can you read it to the audience. 346 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 7: I want to see what, of course, Steve so President 347 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 7: Trump said in the context of what we're talking about. 348 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 7: Just a few or so moments ago before the break, 349 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 7: what President Trump has said on social media is that 350 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 7: he says, I'm not looking to hurt Russia. 351 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: I love the Russian people. 352 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 7: I've always had a good relationship with President Putin, but 353 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 7: Putin should make a deal soon or else Trump would 354 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 7: have no other choice but to impose additional taxes, tariffs, 355 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 7: and sanctions on Russian imports to the US along with 356 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 7: other participating countries. 357 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: Now again, President Trump. 358 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 7: Has been very busier than US forty eight hour signing 359 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 7: a whole number of executive orders. I think he's leaning 360 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 7: on his team somewhat with this advice. This follow through 361 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 7: about the taxes, the tariffs, and the sanctions. But the 362 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 7: fact is is that that's been the Biden's policy of 363 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 7: the last three years and it's failed to come up 364 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 7: to the point that I was saying before. It's what 365 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 7: you said in the first the first fifteen minutes of 366 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 7: this show's teme. You mentioned a very keyword, prestige. Well, 367 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 7: at some point in America needs to confront the reality 368 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 7: that it has lost prestige because of the actions of 369 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 7: President Biden, and there's no escaping that. And if you 370 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 7: look at prestige as an economic quantity, like for example, 371 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 7: under the sunk cost fallacy, just have to write that 372 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 7: off right off, the prestige that that your America is 373 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 7: going to lose by withdrawing. But I don't think by 374 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 7: thinking in more prestige to a victory America is going 375 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 7: to get anything out of it because that victory simply 376 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 7: isn't possible. So far, the circle around President Trump his 377 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 7: advisors seemed to be advising him to do exactly what 378 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 7: the Biden administration was doing, not only on the sanctions 379 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 7: and taris and what have you, but also on reducing 380 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 7: the combat age from twenty five to eighteen, which Mike Waltz, 381 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 7: the National Security advisor incoming. 382 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: Jake Sullivan's successor. 383 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 7: What Colonel represented Congressman Colonel Waltz is pushing Zelenski to 384 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: do there. Reducing that That's exactly the Biden policy, right, 385 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 7: And I think what people are looking for now under 386 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 7: this new administration is a shift in policy from something 387 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 7: that's not going to Look the point about sanctions is 388 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 7: that we know this, they hit American consumers more than 389 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 7: they hit the Russians, and that is the presentation. I 390 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 7: think Magat is looking for something more. Steve and this 391 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 7: show the warm has been really the only voice in 392 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 7: the whole of American politics that I said, right from 393 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 7: the get go, the way out for America is don't 394 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 7: get yourself bound in the security guarantees and a complete 395 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 7: disengagement within twenty four hours, which is what President Trump promised, 396 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 7: because otherwise, if he's going to be in this game 397 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 7: to try and save prestige, he's going to be wrapped 398 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 7: in and sucked in by the tentacles and it's going 399 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 7: to be repeat as you said correctly just now of Vietnam, 400 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 7: and that's not what America wants. 401 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be threefold. 402 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: And this is what we're trying to We are supporting the president, 403 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: we're just trying to avoid what we see in Kagan 404 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: laid it down out Kagan who wrote the fricking. 405 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: The piece about Caesar in January. 406 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: First of a couple of years ago and really called 407 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: for kind of a brutus to step up and gave 408 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: moral authority and the moral high ground to an assassin 409 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: of President Trump, is that he was a dictator. That 410 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: same guy wrote this piece about Trump's first in the Atlantic, 411 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: and people got to please understand that the Atlantic is 412 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 4: becoming the new kind of railhead for the for the 413 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: resistance to Trump, intellectuals, the public intelligentsia. 414 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the Washington Po. Washington Post is collapsing. 415 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: They're going to different things, these little news sites, whether 416 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 4: it's a Puck or Axios or the Bulwark or there's 417 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 4: many dispatch and you know, some are never Trump and 418 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: some are former Lefties and a lot of former Republicans. 419 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: But they're all interesting. They all have scoops and they 420 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: have some you know, thought pieces. But the Atlantic is 421 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 4: trying to do a concentration. I think it's Steve Job's wife, 422 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 4: a concentration of concentration of this that gets to be powerful, 423 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: and it's powerful. Kagan just wrote a piece called Trump's 424 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: first strategic failure and guess what it was about Ukraine. 425 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: And back to the negotiations. Three things I think should 426 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 4: happen immediately. Number one, I haven't heard there far a 427 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: cease fire. President Trump should call for an immediate ceasefire. 428 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: Mediate and everything lacks in place, and unfortunately you're going 429 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: to have, as we told you, got the Red Army. 430 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 4: It's a lot farther than the Don bask In Crimea. 431 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: It just is they want a lot of territory. The 432 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 4: second part of this is twofold on the security guarantee. 433 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: Number one, it will be no American money and no 434 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: American troops. And third we will make no commitments to reconstruction. 435 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: We just don't have the cash. We got to reconstruct 436 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: North Carolina. We got to reconstruct East Palestine, Ohio. We 437 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 4: have to reconstruct Los Angeles. We got our plateful right now. 438 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: And there's a lot more construction and places that have 439 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: been hit by natural disasters or in East Palistine's case, 440 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: a man made disaster. Those three right there, and that 441 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 4: will stop you, and then set the framework immediately and 442 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: get them into a room and force Lensky into room. 443 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: They're talking. 444 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: Zelensky's walk around talking like they he's got options. He 445 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: just said the Europeans military for it. They don't have 446 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 4: it and wouldn't be taken seriously. Well, then if you 447 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 4: don't have that, bro, and you're not drafting your eighteen 448 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: year olds to come in there because the parents don't 449 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 4: want their kids slaughtered for no reason, and your country 450 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: can't produce anything because it's shattered because you got them 451 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: in a war you can't win and the wet you 452 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: allowed leaders in the West to lead it down the 453 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: primrose path to the destruction of your country. Then where's 454 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: your leverage. Oh, your leverage is the mac daddy. The 455 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: United States will look that's not the deal that's going 456 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 4: to lead to a long time to get resolution. We 457 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 4: got to let this guy know, you don't really have 458 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: a voice. And if they want to have a voice, 459 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: then let Europe, who he just said can't do it. 460 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: Let Europe step up and they let them if they 461 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 4: want a voice, to have the Europeans step up. This 462 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: is a black hole that's gonna suck President Trump in. 463 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: And there's some of the guys over there, the Neo 464 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: country got to step up and help me say hey, 465 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: we can't do this. 466 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: This is going to be with Nixon and Vietnam. 467 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: He's gonna get stuck with something that was created by 468 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: somebody else, and they're going to start criticizing him. 469 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: You wait a couple of weeks. Trump's not doing this. 470 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: Trump's not doing that. 471 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: He's not back in the security guarantees, he's not doing No, 472 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 4: they're not part of the conversation, not that he's back, 473 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 4: and it's not part of the conversation. You created this. 474 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 4: You created the slaughter. Trump had nothing to do with it. 475 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: You hadn't stolen the freaking election, that wouldn't even happen. 476 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: You have a million happy Ukrainians right now, not dead. 477 00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: Most of them in unmarked graves shirt break. Your host 478 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 4: Stephen came back, okay, Ben Harnwell, it's late. You're gonna 479 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: be back with us tomorrow morning. We'll continue this Ukraine. 480 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure there'll be updates. 481 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: Because this is a war. This is going on. There's 482 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: like shooting every day. Ben. Where do people follow you, sir? 483 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 7: On Getter Steve my social media platform of choice, simply 484 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 7: tap in my surname hahn Well and you'll get some 485 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 7: pretty good post waiting for you at the top of 486 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 7: my feed. Even if I say so myself, I just 487 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 7: want to say, you mentioned Robert Kagan before I bounced. 488 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 7: You mentioned Robert Kagan before the break. That gives me 489 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 7: an excellent opportunity to pivot to his wife, Victorian Newland, 490 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 7: who wasn't granted like all the other rogues of the 491 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 7: outgoing by the administration, wasn't granted blanket immunity. 492 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: So I would suggest there's room for Congress for grand. 493 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 7: Joy there to call her in and find. 494 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 3: Out what did she do? 495 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 7: What did she do when she made a hastily organized 496 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 7: visit over there and everything going back to twenty fourteen, 497 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 7: Biden pardoned his son from twenty fourteen honors. He did 498 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 7: not pardon Victoria Newton. That's a great gift for us 499 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 7: to get to the bottom of. 500 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: Why we actually and this is part of the yeah, 501 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: it's part. It's part of the investigation in the twenty 502 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: nineteen impeachment. The perfect phone call. You have to get 503 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: to the bottom of all of it. Folks, we love 504 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: not to do it, but it's got to happen. 505 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: You've got to do the work. Ben, Thank you, sir, 506 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: C Tomorrow, great job. 507 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: Thanks thanks Steve god bless. 508 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Now now how do I okay? In this one? 509 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: There's when you look at business, there's opportunity cost Opportunity 510 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: costs associated with things about when you take certain action, 511 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: you don't have the opportunity to do others. So that's 512 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 4: how you have to calculate into your equation in business 513 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: or in any decision making your opportunity costs. President Trump 514 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: did put out yesday in the Roosevelt Room this thing 515 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: called Stargate, and this was a effort to have artificial intelligence, 516 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: a five hundred billion dollar infrastructure platform. 517 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: I got Joe. 518 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: Allen, our transhumanist editor in Norah here. But there's something 519 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: about this that's kind of starting to metastasize both the 520 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: thing itself exactly what this was, which is start off 521 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: as a five hundred billon dollar joint venture of which 522 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: the United States President Jumpes is announcing, Hey, guys want 523 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: people want to invest in the I States now, because 524 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: I'm here in the animal spirits of being unleashed. There's 525 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: two massive stories coming out of this, and with everything 526 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 4: else going on, we got to cover the first, which is, like, 527 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: what are we talking about? Because artificial intelligence, folks, I'm 528 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: telling you, And when they did the Holy Society or 529 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: Holy Government EO Executive Order, which I think it's got 530 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 4: hb one visas all in it. Also I think it's 531 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: being undone is what I'm told is one of the 532 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: lists to get canceled. 533 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: But I want to start with Stargate first. 534 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna get into the response of Elon Musk 535 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: and my participation in that. So we're going to continue 536 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: down this path. By the way, we need you. This 537 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: is why we need you at the rampart. So so 538 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: many things happening that you need to respond to a 539 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: call to action like you've done in the pass of 540 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: actually helping out. Because these Senate nominations, the games are 541 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: being played by the Center outrageous. I want to make 542 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 4: sure you're worn and fully understand this thing about your title. 543 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: One thing you got. 544 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: If you're lucky enough to own a home, the only 545 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: thing that shows you own it is that title. 546 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: That's it. That's your baby, not. 547 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: That you live there, not you park your car there, 548 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: not you sleep in the bed there. That title shows 549 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: you own it, that you're just not a squatter. And 550 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: you think, well, that's impossible too. Hey you, Hey, there's 551 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 4: so many ways to get your title, the old fashioned 552 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: way and also now with cyber attacks. Home title lock 553 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: dot com will walk you through all of it and 554 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: lets you rest at night because remember some hard money 555 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: lender somebody takes out a second of fifty one hundred 556 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: thousand dollars. You're done, Your retirement's done, your ability to 557 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: give any time you have to the cause of politics 558 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 4: and cause of President Trump and magick done. Home title 559 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: arct dot com slash Bannon. Let's play the cold open 560 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: for nor beIN Laden. Who's up late tonight to do 561 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: this in our own Joe Allen, just go on letter up. 562 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 8: One of the most exciting things we're working on you 563 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 8: again using the tools that's that SAM and MASSA are 564 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 8: providing UH is the cancer vacccene. It's very interesting early diet. 565 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 8: It turns out, I'll be quick. All of our cancers UH, 566 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 8: cancer tumors, little fragments of those tumors float around in 567 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 8: your blood. So you can do early cancer detection if 568 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 8: you can do using A, you can do early cancer 569 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 8: detection with a blood test UH and using AI to 570 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 8: look at the blood test, you can find the cancers 571 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 8: that are actually seriously. 572 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: Threatening the person. 573 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 8: So we can again cancers cancer diagnosis using AI as 574 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 8: the promise of just being a simple blood test. Then 575 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 8: beyond that, once we gene sequence, once we gene sequence 576 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 8: that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person. Design 577 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 8: a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against 578 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 8: that cancer, and you can make that vaccine, that mRNA vaccine. 579 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 8: You can make that robotically again using AI in about 580 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 8: forty eight hours. So imagine early cancer detection, the development 581 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 8: of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you, 582 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 8: and have that vaccine available in forty eight hours. This 583 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 8: is the promise of AI and the promise of the future. 584 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: Okay, if you had to string together five code words 585 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: that would light off the word posse. 586 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 587 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: Let's turn together artificial intelligence, gene sequencing, m r m 588 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: N RNA vaccines. That was like murder's row. I think 589 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: he just did that. That was in the Roser room 590 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: next to President Trump. 591 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: He did that. 592 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: Just have people's heads blow up. And thank god we 593 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: have social media because they did. Nor Ben Laden and 594 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: I'll start with you. You've been on this one all day. 595 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: This is starting to blow up. So what's the beef. 596 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: He's talking to you about the future. He's talking about 597 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: what's happening now. That's where they have a five hundred 598 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: billion dollar joint venture. 599 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Ma'am. 600 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: There are so. 601 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 6: Many things to say about this and the developments coming 602 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 6: out of the rosel room yesterday. The first thing I'd 603 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 6: like to say is, so apparently, now just like Bill Gates, 604 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 6: Larry Ellison is a doctor, self appointed himself a doctor 605 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 6: and is giving medical advice to people. Feels like he 606 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 6: took the button from Bill Gates on all things vaccines. 607 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 6: The second thing I'd like to say is perhaps before 608 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 6: discussing you know so called mRNA quote vaccine cures, perhaps 609 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: we should look at why there are so many VECs 610 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 6: so many cancers and why the rate has been skyrocketing, 611 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 6: and maybe we should stop poisoning people and having the 612 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 6: cancer issue in the first place with regards to Stargate, 613 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 6: and this is where the thing has been blowing up 614 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 6: this week. I'm here in Davos talking about the globalists. 615 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 6: I've been reporting on the Globalist for a few years now, 616 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 6: talking about mass surveillance, about the digital control grid that 617 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 6: they are building out, all of this infrastructure via which 618 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 6: they will digitize all aspects of our society and control 619 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 6: are every single move, are every single transaction, and our speech, 620 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 6: essentially basically removing any form of freedom or human agency. 621 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 6: And the biggest news to me didn't come out of 622 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 6: Davos this week, but actually out of this announcement yesterday 623 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 6: in Washington, DC, with this Stargate project and this mass 624 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 6: investment in AI infrastructure and looking into all the globalists 625 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 6: and all of these players. Obviously, I'm aware that Larry 626 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 6: Ellison is a very shady character and is very much 627 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 6: the epitome of the deep state. You just have to 628 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 6: look at his company Oracle, which was actually born out 629 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 6: of the CIA, and the name was a Project Oracle. 630 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 6: It spinedoffed into a company that was in the seventies. 631 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: The first client was the CIA, and I think it's 632 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 6: one of the main clients of Oracle today. Twenty five 633 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 6: percent of Oracle's business is actually the main contractor is 634 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 6: the CIA. So we're looking at deep state here ties 635 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 6: you know, open AI obviously, and I really encourage people 636 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 6: to familiarize themselves with this topic of Silicon Valley and 637 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 6: of Silicon Valley. There's this great documentary by James Corbett 638 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 6: entitled The Secrets of Silicon Valley What Big Tech Doesn't 639 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 6: Want You to Know, and it really ties into what 640 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 6: happened yesterday. And so we are at this situation right 641 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 6: now where people are very aware of what's going on, 642 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 6: are very aware of the dangers of this digitization, of 643 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 6: the dangers of AI. And the response of the MAGA 644 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 6: base was absolutely, as you said, Steve, explosive today on Twitter, 645 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 6: this is what everybody was talking about, tweeting, you know, 646 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 6: at a potus President Trump's handle on Twitter, at Don 647 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 6: Junior and members of the Trump administration saying we do 648 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 6: not want this. Clips of Larry Ellison surfacing of him 649 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 6: calling for total mass surveillance in the past, and people 650 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 6: are not happy and rightly so. 651 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 4: Now it's and by the way, the Davos the Davos 652 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 4: term year is UH is the intelligent age. 653 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: This falls right underneath it. 654 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 4: And I don't think President Trump fully realized the firestorm 655 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 4: he was stepping into on many levels, this level of 656 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 4: the macrolob but also a feud on the AI side 657 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 4: between Musk and Altman that's broken out've been quite nasty. 658 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: But I want to go back more for BIX. So, 659 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 4: Joe Allen, you kind of warn us about this in 660 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 4: dark aon. So what's the big deal. It's infrastructure for AI, 661 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 4: you know, nor It's one of these conspiracy theory wing nuts. 662 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: You got, you got the fever swamps of Maga. You know, 663 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: lighting up poor Don Junior. He's got enough to worry about. 664 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 4: They got lightened it up. What's the problem with Stargate? 665 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 6: Sir? 666 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 9: I would say two things before I talk about President 667 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 9: Trump's role. I have to say up front that these 668 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 9: last three days have been fantastic and he deserves all 669 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 9: the credit in the world for border enforcement, for the 670 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 9: January sixth pardons, for repealing DEI. 671 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 5: And Affirmative Action. 672 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 9: So just to say up front, thank you so much 673 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 9: for keeping your promises there. But when he shows up 674 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 9: like Michael Jordan endorsing Weedie's to endorse two just kind 675 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 9: of a vowed transhumanists or post humanists at being Sam 676 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 9: Altman and Masi Yoshiman or Yoshi San. And then the 677 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 9: third Larry Ellison, who is as Nora was just explaining 678 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 9: at the center of surveillance state technology, even though Trump 679 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 9: isn't necessarily allocating the funds, even though Trump isn't necessarily involved, 680 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 9: what he's signaling to people is that this is a 681 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 9: positive path forward. The war imposse is well aware that 682 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 9: I do not see this as a positive path forward. 683 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 9: You begin with the surveillance and result manipulation of psychology 684 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 9: and behavior. These are horrific implications as to where the 685 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 9: technology could go. Then you have the increasing problem of 686 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 9: people becoming dependent on artificial intelligence for their thinking, people 687 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 9: becoming dependent on artificial intelligence for their daily life and 688 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 9: even moral structure, and the human atrophy that results from that, 689 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 9: again horrific implications. And lastly, the long term goal envisioned 690 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 9: by both Altman and Masa Yoshi San is that these systems, 691 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 9: these ais will become superhuman and ultimately render human beings obsolete. 692 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 9: They will ultimately replace every possible role in society the 693 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 9: human beings now occupy. That is what President Trump is endorsing. 694 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 9: And I don't I want to believe he does not 695 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 9: understand the implications of what he's endorsing. 696 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: What was I tell you what. 697 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 4: Let's come back after a short break, because this gets 698 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 4: to be the the MAGA base, particularly the magabase that 699 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 4: has taken time and you know, focus and looked at 700 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: the Revolver stuff, that Mike Ben's stuff, Natalie Winners material, 701 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 4: and everything that's been done on the vaccines, all of it, 702 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: plus you add in the transhuman is what we've done 703 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 4: and studying transhumanism. 704 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: And make sure we understand it. 705 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 4: It's those people the most kind of up and armed 706 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: to say, President Trump, make sure we fully understand what you're. 707 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: Getting these guys in the room about. 708 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: Then this is the thing of getting them in a 709 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: room and having them Musk and Altman in this outright fight. 710 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 4: Short commercial break Birch Gold dot Com slash Bannon go 711 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 4: today talk to Philip Patrick. 712 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: And a member of his team about the options you 713 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: have in Gold. Here's your Stephen. 714 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 2: Kay Ban. 715 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: Okay, welcome back, Nor we've only got about eight minutes 716 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 4: ago in this segment, I get it. Tell me about 717 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 4: the reaction of the warm posse in the base about 718 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 4: what happened. You're saying, I want to go, I just 719 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 4: want to scale, because it did explode. 720 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Why was that? 721 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 6: Because the posse is very much aware of what is 722 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 6: at stake here, and the warm Posse is very knowledgeable 723 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 6: when it comes to the globalist cult and what their 724 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 6: plans are. And so when this announcement came through about 725 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 6: this massive injection to build the databases for artificial intelligence, 726 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 6: which would then lead to what we know will be 727 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 6: mass surveillance. You know, as per Larry Ellison himself, you know, 728 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 6: looking back at what he has said in the past 729 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 6: of how he views and envisioned society. If I had 730 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 6: to boil it down into one simple sentence, Steve, I 731 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 6: think what we know is that the golden age, President 732 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 6: Trump's golden age, what he said in his inaugural speech, 733 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 6: is basically incompatible with the biohacking, gene editing, AI replacing 734 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 6: techno human age. You know that Joe speaks so well 735 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 6: about and we understand that the globalist play here is 736 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 6: to really do this sort of augmentation of human beings 737 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 6: via the implementation of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, the so 738 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 6: called Intelligent Age, and the implications, as Joe rightly said, 739 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 6: are absolutely horrific for humanity. 740 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 4: Joe, when we think of let a new age now begin, 741 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 4: or the new order of the ages we had the 742 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 4: party the other night, and use the phrase off of 743 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: the official kind of motto of the US, you know, 744 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: a new order for the ages. When President and Trump 745 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: thinks of and that goes back to our revolutionary generation 746 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 4: and the framers of the Constitution, the founders of our nation, 747 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 4: and President Trump thinks of a golden age, and noor 748 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 4: Been Laten's there in Davos and they're saying, this is 749 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 4: the intelligent Age. Are these things in conflict with one 750 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 4: another's nor beIN laden? 751 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 3: Right? 752 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 4: Is that what Davos is looking for? Do you think 753 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 4: starkly different than what President Trump's thinking of when he 754 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 4: thinks a new golden age for America. Are they mutually exclusive? 755 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: Are they reinforcing? 756 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 9: I suppose there's a way you could imagine that they're coupled. 757 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 9: I mean, transhumanists oftentimes speak of it in terms of 758 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 9: enabling human flourishing, enabling human abilities, enabling human self realization. 759 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 9: But ultimately, the promises of technology almost always have these 760 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 9: dark underbellies that are usually not really accounted for in 761 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 9: the beginning and are not really corrected until it's too late. 762 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 9: So when the Davos crowd talks about the Intelligent Age 763 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 9: or Sam Altman, you know, when they announced that Sam 764 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 9: Altman produced a post about the Intelligence Age, obviously this 765 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 9: is kind of a bit of coordination. 766 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 5: There a very weird coincidence. 767 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 9: What they're talking about is digital intelligence, and whether that's 768 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 9: used to augment human intelligence or whether that's used to 769 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 9: replace human intelligence. It is a dream that it's born 770 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 9: of a kind of religious impulse to. 771 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 5: Create a godlike entity. 772 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 9: When Masi Yoshi Son or Sam Altman is talking about 773 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 9: a digital intelligence ten thousand times greater than human intelligence, 774 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 9: that's a god. Now, just really quickly, I just want 775 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 9: to say that many people are very very skeptical of 776 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 9: that possibility, myself included. So so let's just say that 777 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 9: all of this is fluff, all of this is all 778 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 9: of this is fraud. What they are signaling with President Trump, unfortunately, 779 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 9: with them, is that you as a human being are 780 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 9: going to be of less and less value. As we 781 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 9: move into the future, and the machines will be of 782 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 9: more value. If they don't come through with their promises, 783 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 9: then they've demoralized an entire generation of children and their parents, 784 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 9: so on and so forth, do not see themselves as important. 785 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 9: If they realize their dreams God forbid, well, then that 786 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 9: means the greater replacement. That means that human beings are 787 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 9: completely worthless. 788 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 5: All we are. 789 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 9: Basically is either biofuel or entertainment or pets. So I 790 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 9: don't see Trump's promise is human flourishing in America. Their 791 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 9: promise is the flourishing of machines. So in my view, 792 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 9: it's completely incompatible. 793 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 4: The nor What is your social media? Very powerful, very disturbing. 794 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 4: What's your social media at? 795 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 6: Norbin laden On Xannorbin laden dot substep dot com. 796 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 4: Fantastic, amazing. Thank you for stating up late for us. 797 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 4: We'll check with you tomorrow. I'm announcing now we're going 798 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 4: to open the show, and Davos is so much going 799 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 4: on that interconnects with the White House. 800 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Davis tomorrow. First thing, Nora, thank 801 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: you so much. Joe. 802 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 4: Very disturbing, as usual, where do people go? I know 803 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 4: you're out. Joe's working on another special project for us. 804 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 4: Where they go to get your ranks, where they go 805 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 4: to get a copy of your book. 806 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 9: You can find everything signed copies of the book at 807 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 9: Joebot dot xyz. Sign up for the newsletter piece coming 808 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 9: out tomorrow about the Stargate project itself, the wider implications, 809 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 9: and of course social media at joe bot. 810 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 2: X y z. 811 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 5: So thank you very much, Steve, Thank you, Door. 812 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: I think it. 813 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 4: We'll track you down also tomorrow, after the Stargate piece 814 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 4: comes out, we're going to want to talk about that. 815 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 4: Up up, up with everything else going on. Okay, we're 816 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 4: going to take a short commercial break. Come back at 817 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 4: the top of the six o'clock hour. I've got Steinman 818 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 4: and Ezra. Ezra's going to join me Cohen and they're 819 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 4: going to talk about the National Security Council, what it's 820 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 4: like to be inside it, but particularly where President Trump's. 821 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: Going for the next several days. 822 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 4: You see everything's happening in Ukraine, in the Middle East. 823 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: They fired. 824 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 825 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 4: We talked about this morning, General Flynn and I they 826 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 4: fired I think one hundred and sixty eight. 827 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: They sent one hundred and sixty eight dtls. 828 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 4: Back to their whether it's the Pentagon or the CIA, 829 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 4: all of it. Hundred sixty eight A bold move from 830 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 4: Prisident Trump today. The right stuff is going to take 831 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 4: us out. Field of Greens. You want to get that 832 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 4: feeling you've got when you know you're taking the good stuff. 833 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 4: Field of Greens, get you all your fruits and vegetables, 834 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 4: and it does it totally organic because not some of 835 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 4: these other competitors they're powdered. This is a much more detailed, 836 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 4: thorough process. Takes them a lot longer, but that's the 837 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 4: way they've decided to do it. Fieldogreens dot com. Go 838 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: check it out, get all the information. When you've got that, 839 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 4: you're gonna field healthy in the morning and energized. Short 840 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 4: commercial break here in the war room. I would never 841 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 4: say it was also a Warpath coffee. The Warpath dot 842 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 4: coffee does give you a bolt of energy with the 843 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 4: best coffee ever made. Warpath that coffee put warworm in 844 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 4: and you get a twenty percent discount. The right stuff 845 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 4: takes us out. We're going to the National Security Council. 846 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 4: The firing of one hundred and sixty eight Detailly sent 847 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 4: back to. 848 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: Their home bases today. Short break back in a moment