1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The Fields Onto Group proudly presents Huddle. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Up with Bucky. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Brooks, JP Shadrick, John Oser, and NFL Network analyst and 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jackwars. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: We're not done. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna continue to work to build this team to 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 4: make his as potent as we can going into the 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: regular season. 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 5: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, May 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: twenty fourth, JP Shadrick, NFL Network Analyst, Bucky Brooks, Jaguars 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: dot Com Senior writer John Oser. Give us a listen 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: on the podcast page at Jaguars dot com or the 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: official Jaguars Podcast network that's on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: wherever you download your pods. Bucky is in person this week. 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Must be some high level meetings. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 6: Going on, high level meetings, but no, you know, I 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 6: had to come in, Like I give Jao a tough 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 6: time about OTA, so I wanted to make sure that 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 6: I leave by example, and so come in see do 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 6: the work, take notes. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: It's a voluntary period. 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: Make sure what's going on. 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 6: But look, it's all balls football and so now we 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 6: got the helmets on, it's more like real ball. We 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 6: get a chance to see guys run around and begin 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 6: to like, you know, see who's hot, who's not, all 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 6: the other stuff. 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 5: I tell you what, anytime you come, you can have 31 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 5: my spot. It's a but on campus for on broadcasting 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 5: getting ready for next year, right, so you'll be back 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: with us again. 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, like on campus, like we're getting ready for preseason 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 6: TV doing all the other stuff. 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: But really it was about come in and watch practice. 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 6: Man talking about practice. Watch want to see my game? 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: That's right, practice. I want to see Calvin Ridley and 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 6: all the crew and just I just want to see 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 6: the bells and whistles. 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: I miss that. You know, if you're gonna sit over 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: here and speculate. 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 6: About the offense being able to put thirty plus on everybody, 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 6: you want to see if it looks like what you're saying. 45 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: And it does. 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's start with the offense today. Then we'll 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: hear from Press Taylor offensive coordinator. They've got an offensive 48 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: base established now going into the year two of the scheme. 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: The biggest thing is they're not hearing something for the 50 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 4: first time. So now we install something or talk about 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: a concept or get into detail. The questions they're asking 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: are much further beyond what they're asking last year. It 53 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: kind of gets into specifics of the defenses this Now 54 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: we do that and you have a little bit deeper 55 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: level of conversation from that, especially with the quarterbacks, which 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: is always the goal to be on the same page 57 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: with those guys. So it's been fun to see all 58 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: our guys take the next step in the system. 59 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: All Right, we've had limited time seeing this team. They've 60 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: only been in Phase three for two days as we 61 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: record this on Wednesday, So I don't know if you 62 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: can see too much of that so far. But what 63 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: can you see in the little time you've seen back? 64 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: Well, Bucky can Evidently Bucky can see it because he's 65 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 5: here for here you practicing. How good is this offense? 66 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Back? 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: Or how good can it be? 68 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: The offense canna be really good? 69 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 6: Like and I know this is hype season where everyone 70 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 6: is a hype bunny. We're talking about these guys and 71 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 6: everyone gets excited about it, but it's real when you 72 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 6: talk about the potential of this offense. 73 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence looks great. He looks great because he's very. 74 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 6: Comfortable in the offense, Doug Peterson is kind of like 75 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 6: step back. He's kind of hanging in the back and 76 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 6: just kind of overseeing the entire operation. But you can 77 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 6: tell that this offense is operating at a high level. 78 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 6: And when you throw in Calvin Ridley, who kind of 79 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 6: goes in and out the lineup when it comes to practice. 80 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 6: Because I'm talking to Doug Peterson, he talked about you 81 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 6: got to kind of protect him against himself because. 82 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: He work so hard. 83 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley, Christian Kirk being able to with Zay Jones in. 84 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 6: Evan Ingram is in here, but you've seen Brandon Strange 85 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 6: jump in and you can just see what this offense 86 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 6: could be. Travis Dentien looks good, and I'll say, man Bigsby, 87 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 6: try Bigsby like he looks apart. He's big, look he 88 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 6: looks the part. He looks like a lean, mean fighting machine. 89 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 6: He looks the part. And so when you have so 90 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: many different pieces, we saw Doug Peterson kind of get 91 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: in his bag when it came to his creativity and 92 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 6: his play calling. He has more at his disposal. So 93 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 6: it should be a lot of fun to watch. This 94 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 6: offense is go to work. 95 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 5: You guys know how optimistic I am about just life 96 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: in general. 97 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: Everything. 98 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: You know, the glass is always full, not even halfway, 99 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: not even half full, it's overflowing. If you look at 100 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 5: this even objectively, even taking my cynicism out of it, 101 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: this is a perfect storm offensively, meaning you've got that 102 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: year two element, which I believe is the biggest factor 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 5: for this offense, even if you were adding nothing for 104 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: any offense. But then you have Doug Peterson and Press Taylor, 105 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: that dynamic and Mike McCoy all coming back, and you've 106 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: got Doug who is a high level play caller. That's 107 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: the fire. And then you throw you know, I say 108 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 5: it's never happened, but you've got that dynamic of an 109 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: offensive was already top ten coming back, and you feel 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 5: like this young quarterback is going to get better, and 111 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: then you pop a potential All Pro receiver onto it. 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it's never happened, but that's rare. 113 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that sort of perfect storm coming in 114 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: is rare. And uh, you know, I'm with Bucky. I 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: think you're sitting on an offense that I don't say 116 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 5: you're disappointed if they don't, if they don't get thirty 117 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 5: a game if they're not in that realm uh. But 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 5: getting that puts this team in last weekend of conference 119 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: playoff consideration and gives him a shot. And as much 120 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 5: as I'm always couching comments this time of year, I 121 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 5: don't really see why you can't get there. 122 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. He's over there being modesty. 123 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: Were going, But that's what I mean. 124 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: We're going deep. We're going far, like like the elementary 125 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: doesn't he doesn't say that, but you're going to. 126 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 6: When you just look at offensively, the five part and 127 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: the personnel that you have. You have a big time quarterback, 128 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 6: you have weapons, good lore where you can make it 129 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 6: really really difficult for the defense to match up. 130 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 131 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: You have an offensive line that's still a work in progress, 132 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: but you can see the improvement. Antoine Harrison should come 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 6: in and play right away. If he plays well, then 134 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 6: you can kick Walk. Look, we've seen walk little kind 135 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 6: of move around and do some different things. And so 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 6: when Cam Robinson gets back and you have your full 137 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 6: compliment of guys up front, could be a very very 138 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 6: solid offensive line at the end and some of your 139 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 6: other guys being able to run the football. You can 140 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 6: control the pace with your offense, and your offense can 141 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 6: be your best defense. 142 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: The defense will be the question mark. 143 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 6: Can this defense play well enough to close out games? 144 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: And normally to play at the championship. 145 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 6: Level, you need an A plus quarterback and you need 146 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 6: a level pass rushers meaning plural because you got to 147 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 6: be able to close out the game on defense being 148 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 6: able to stack to the quarterback. So the question will 149 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 6: be the defense. But offensively, everything is there for this 150 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 6: team to emerge like Cincinnati emerge as a super Bowl team, 151 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 6: to do what Kansas City has done, being an offensive 152 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 6: led team that has gone to the Super Bowl. And 153 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 6: so when those expectations are out there, I think you 154 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 6: can embrace it because, yes, this team is on the 155 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 6: verge of being one of those teams that we talked 156 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 6: about in the final four. 157 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: All right, there have been five and we've talked about 158 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: this on this show, this podcast, other shows throughout the offseason. 159 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: There have been five NFL teams that have put together 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 2: three receivers of a thousand yards. Only two of those 161 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: have that plus one thousand yard rusher. This could be 162 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: another one. We've talked about it all offseason. I asked 163 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: Christian Kirk about that idea earlier this week. 164 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 7: You know, we know we have the potential to be 165 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 7: a really good group, and you know, I know from 166 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 7: all of us, we have that chip on our shoulder 167 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 7: to be respected as you know, one of the better, 168 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 7: you know, trios in the league. And so you know, 169 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 7: we're just gonna come out here. We got a chip 170 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 7: on our shoulder. In September, we'll be able to show that. 171 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: So that's Christian kirk full conversation coming up on Jaguars 172 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: dot Com a little later this week. You know, they've 173 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: got different skill set guys that they've got receivers that 174 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: they can move all over the formation. As you said, Bucky, 175 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: they've got the running game to go with that. By 176 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: the way, the only two with three receivers over one 177 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: thousand and a running back over one thousand, ninety five 178 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: Falcons and the two thousand and four Colts never lea history. Now, 179 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: bonus points, you can name all the players. 180 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: All the players, So what what. 181 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 6: What year the Cults two thousand and four Reggie Tony 182 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: Gonzalez too, right now, Anthony, that was the. 183 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: Year that Peyton went for forty nine. It was Reggie 184 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: Wayne Harris and Brandon Stokely. 185 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: James James and then the Falcons. What was that? 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: That was ninety five? 187 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: All the Falcons? Uh, that would be oh? That was that? 188 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: Would that would be Haynes. 189 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: The receivers on that team was rising there then right? No, No, 190 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: that was. 191 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: Shoot it's Birdie Manual Yep, correct? 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: Emmanuel is that Pritchard or Mecca metcalf is correct? Terrence 193 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: Mathis is the other receiver? 194 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 195 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: And then the running back, Craig Hayward. 196 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, busted my lip. That's my leg got We're in 197 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 3: the stadium, last game to get into the playoffs. He 198 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: busted my lip. Look, I made his kids apologize. I 199 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: made I made Cam Hayward ain't gonna hear it, made 200 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: him apologize for the dead busting my lip. 201 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: And that was the last time he tried to do that. 202 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, busted my lip. I came on a bliss 203 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: and they handed the ball off. He wasn't supposed to 204 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: get the ball. 205 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: It's an improvement. 206 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. I almost think this offense might have a piece 207 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 5: or two too many to get three thousand yard receivers, 208 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 5: meaning you might see the ball spread a little bit more. 209 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: So. 210 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if maybe Zay Jones or Evan Ingram 211 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 5: I think would be the guys to get that third spot. 212 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: Then Christian really have a real shot at it. 213 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 8: Uh. 214 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: You might see their yards split and then both get 215 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: to the eight hundred range. But this offense is capable 216 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 5: of that without question. Now it's hard. I mean it's 217 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 5: it's hard getting that third guy there. Stokely that year 218 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: was the third guy in Indy and needed big games 219 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 5: late to get there because it's it's a lot of 220 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: yards for three you know, I was in the quarterback 221 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: usually has to be in that forty three forty four 222 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 5: because other guys get the ball as well. And then 223 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: I get edering that you had like fifteen hundred yards. 224 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: That was you know, And game flow is part of 225 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: it too. I mean, if you're up by three four touchdowns, 226 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna be throwing the ball batch anymore. And who 227 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: says you run the ball? 228 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, you're trying to bust the clock. 229 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh like I think break those scoreboards? 230 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I think you just go. You do what 231 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: you do. 232 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 6: I mean there's some people that are unapologetic about how 233 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 6: they play when it comes to that. 234 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: I think we've seen. 235 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: The falcons for that in the Super Bowl too, right. 236 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 6: I don't think Doug Dallas are back when it comes 237 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 6: to offensive end stuff. We've seen games in the bank 238 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 6: where he didn't. It seems like we should be running 239 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 6: the ball to run the clock out, and the ball 240 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 6: is still going in the air. So a lot of 241 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 6: it depends on the officiency at a quarterback. But I 242 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 6: would not expect a big dial back if you have 243 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 6: an opportunity to go up on people. 244 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: Now, it's it's uh, especially in this day and age 245 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 5: where the passing percentages are and should be so high 246 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 5: if you're throwing the right passes. Most coaches, you know, 247 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 5: especially Doug attitude would be his percentages of running clock 248 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: over the course of the season. Throwing that way, you're 249 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 5: gonna get first downs to keep the ball in your possession. 250 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: That negate some of the times that you don't get 251 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 5: it by running. 252 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 6: You following so bubble screens and we've seen, yeah, we've 253 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: lived on wide receiver screens. Yeah, balls come out quick, 254 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 6: get it till your playmakers on the perimeter. Play a 255 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: game of two on two, three on three as opposed 256 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 6: to eleven on eleven when it comes to the running game. 257 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 6: So I wouldn't expect to see him kind of dial 258 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 6: it back. A lot of it depends on the catch 259 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 6: efficiency and if Trevor's being accurate throwing it. 260 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: But if they're, if they're in rhythm, he's gonna keep throwing. 261 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: How did Trevor look to you Monday? And I know 262 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 5: it's just this no, but he looked so much better 263 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 5: he did a year ago. 264 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 6: It just I would say calm is the best way 265 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 6: to describe it. Like when you watch him, and a 266 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 6: lot of times when you look at the quarterbacks, their 267 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 6: feet are connected to their eyes, and so if their 268 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 6: feet are quiet and their eyes are solid, you know 269 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 6: that they're gonna have completions. It's not a lot of 270 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 6: chaos that they display. And he wasn't herky jerkie. He 271 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 6: was on point, he was on rhythm. You can just 272 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 6: tell he has a great feel for what he's doing. 273 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 6: I think the bigger thing, though, is the addition of 274 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 6: Calvin really and what Calvin Ridley creates. 275 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: There were two that first practice. 276 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 6: There are two plays near the end of practice where 277 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley gets wide up and one on a dig 278 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 6: route a square and when he comes over open over 279 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 6: the middle, he's wide open, he catches the back end 280 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 6: of the football, which is just a testament to his 281 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 6: hand that coordination. But another he throws a deep out 282 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 6: and Calvin Ridley kind of SUTs steps and creates significant separation. 283 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 6: The ball is thrown behind him and just I mean 284 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 6: without a lot of effort, he just easily pulls it in, 285 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 6: spins up the field and goes Those are the kinds 286 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 6: of things that you will. 287 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: See from Calvin. 288 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 6: And so when we talk about resetting the pecking order, 289 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 6: there's a difference in what I would say good and great. 290 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 6: Christian Kirk is really good. Calvin Ridley has a chance 291 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 6: to be great. And so when you put those things 292 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 6: in line, Christian Kirk and Za Jones may see their 293 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 6: numbers pop explode because now defensive you legitimately have to 294 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 6: pay attention to Calvin Ridley as a number one. And 295 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 6: I can't say that's something that we've really seen here 296 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 6: in a long time. 297 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 5: It's a true one's since Jimmy and I. 298 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: Know Alan Robinson had a Pro Bowl year. 299 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 6: But I'm talking about someone where if you don't put 300 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 6: special attention, you can mark in the book he's going 301 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: to finish with one hundred yards, right and so that's 302 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: what he does. And so if they don't roll the 303 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 6: coverage or find a way to bracken him, he can 304 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: do that and then that'll create opportunities for the other 305 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 6: guys to go. 306 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 5: Jimmy Smith was a player that if you didn't cover him, 307 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: he beat you and you lost the game. And Calvin 308 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 5: Ridley really the first guy since then, looks like he 309 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: can be that guy. 310 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Blackman could have been that guy. 311 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Blacke could have been the better but you 312 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: know what happened. 313 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately. Yes, there's no better time to become a 314 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Daily's Place Blue member than right now. Reserve your twenty 315 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: twenty three premium seat membership or individual luxury experience today. 316 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: Email ticketing at Boldevents dot com or call nine oh 317 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: four to sixty three three two thousand. In a moment, 318 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: a defensive mindset from safety ray Sean Jenkins. That's next 319 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: on the Huddle Up Podcast. Welcome back to the Huddle 320 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Up Podcast and the Jags are excited to take the 321 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: field this fall. We want you here for all the 322 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: action for as low as fifty seven bucks per game. 323 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: You can join the ranks of the most dedicated fans 324 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: by becoming a Jaguars season ticket member. Find your perfect 325 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: seats at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or call nine 326 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: oh four to sixty three three two thousand single game 327 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: tickets on sale now as well. Let's move to defense. 328 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: You know, there's not a lot of new personnel. A 329 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: lot of this personnel is back from last season, so 330 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: they didn't really go make an early splash in the draft. Obviously, 331 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: they've added a couple things in free agency, but not 332 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: true front line starting eleven guys they'll rotate in and 333 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: some things like that, But for the most part, it's 334 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: a defense that knows that what they had out there 335 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: last year is what's going on there this year and 336 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: they have to improve moving ahead, and safety ray Sewn 337 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Jenkins knows it takes work. 338 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 8: We saw just the potential that our team had and 339 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 8: you know, that small little bit of success that we 340 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 8: were able to have, and I feel like guys are 341 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 8: just more hungry for that. This is a good goal 342 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 8: to chase, you know, that Super Bowl. You know, everybody 343 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 8: wants a Super Bowl, But the work starts now. You 344 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 8: got to put into work now and it doesn't come 345 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 8: come easy. We gotta saying work to win, you know, 346 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 8: You're not just gonna step out there and win. You 347 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 8: got to work for it. 348 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: Right now, John, Bucky, we've talked about this a lot. 349 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this is they've spent draft equity, they've spent 350 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: free agency dollars on the defense over the last couple 351 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: of years. At some point it has to produce, right Bucky. 352 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's up to the production of the players 353 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: and the improvement year over year, and that's what they're 354 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: banking on, I think this year. 355 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, they certainly are banking on the improvement of the 356 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: players second year and Mike cal Wills game, so you're 357 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 6: hoping that he improves as a play caller, understanding how 358 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 6: to match the schemes with the personnel that he has. 359 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 6: You also have to make sure that you play defense 360 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 6: that match the division of how the head coach wants 361 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 6: to play the entire game. 362 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: This is complimentary ball. 363 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 6: The offense matches the defense with the special teams, and 364 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 6: so if we're talking about the offense being a high 365 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 6: end offense, well maybe the defense doesn't have to be 366 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: a shutdown defense, meaning that you don't need the defense 367 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 6: to hold everyone under seventeen points and go all out 368 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 6: and blitz and stop the run and do all those 369 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 6: other things. Maybe it's hey, defensively, let's make the opponent 370 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: die a slow death, meaning keep the ball in front, 371 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 6: contain everything, make them have ten twelve fourteen play drives 372 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 6: and see if they can score that way on us, 373 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 6: and we'll play for the turnover because we know offensively 374 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 6: we're gonna put up points. The other part to that 375 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 6: is we can play maybe a little bend, but don't 376 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 6: break because we're up there going to chase points. And 377 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: so now our pass rush is able to get home. 378 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 6: And so the big key to that is can you 379 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 6: rush the passer? And the other thing is can you 380 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 6: keep the ball from flying over the top of the defense? 381 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: So does that mean more zone? Is that? 382 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Man? 383 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: But we play it better? 384 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 6: A lot of it depends on the personnelity, and that's 385 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 6: what they'll do, trying to try and sort ox. 386 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna find out and camp in preseason how 387 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 5: they're going to try to range the front seven. Rachhon 388 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: Jenkins need to find this defense. Last year. I don't 389 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 5: think he's a Pro Bowl guy, but I think he 390 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 5: is a guy who stays in the game on every 391 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 5: play and believes greatly in himself. And as a result, 392 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 5: even in games where the defense wasn't necessarily great. I'm 393 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 5: thinking Dallas overall defense wasn't great that day, but ray 394 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: Sean came up with two huge plays that tipped the game. 395 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: The Jaguars favor plays at big moments. If this defense 396 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 5: had a strength last year, that was it. It was 397 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 5: fourth in the league in turnovers. Ray Sean sort of 398 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 5: defined that. And back to what Bucky said, when you 399 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 5: draft two players one in twenty seven in twenty twenty two, 400 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: you expect them to be, especially with their front seven players, 401 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 5: you expect them to be the reason you're good defensively 402 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 5: the following year, not twenty three, not twenty two necessarily, 403 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 5: but by twenty three. So if you're going to be 404 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 5: a draft and developed team, I've said a million times 405 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 5: this offseason, if you're gonna be a draft and developed team, 406 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: first round picks in their second season need to be 407 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 5: why you're a good team. And that's on Trayvon and Devin. 408 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: This year. 409 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: It is on Trayvon and Devin. 410 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 6: And what I will say, without giving away any trade, 411 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 6: tis that I want to coach to be mad at it. 412 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: You can see that they're trying to do some different 413 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: things to acinuate what they have. From a personnel standpoint, 414 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 6: you can see that they're trying to simplify and make 415 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 6: things easy so you don't see a lot of mental 416 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 6: mistakes or some of the things that plague the team 417 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 6: early last year. And so as they simplify and try 418 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: and make it where the defense, you hear them talk 419 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: about play fast. 420 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: We want to play fast. We want to make. 421 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 6: Sure we're free and flowing and going to the ball 422 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 6: and doing those things. 423 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: What to do that you can't have a guy's thinking, and. 424 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: So you can just tell and watch in practice they're 425 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 6: trying to simplify some of the things so guys know 426 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 6: exactly what they're doing, and so over time they'll be 427 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 6: able to play faster because they're reacting, not thinking about 428 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 6: what's about to happen. 429 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: Josh Allen in this conversation too, obviously fifth year, contract year. 430 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 6: It's time. I mean, here's the thing. But I mean 431 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 6: we could talk about, hey, we need pastors to this. 432 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 6: What we see certainly can't say is that they haven't 433 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 6: tried to invest in the position. 434 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: And so when you think. 435 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 6: About the first round picks that have been allocated to 436 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 6: that spot, you can go Calebon Chase and Josh Allen, 437 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 6: Trayvon Walker, I mean, even Devin Lloyd to that end. 438 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about four guys that you've invested in. 439 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 6: At some point, those guys have to play up to 440 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 6: their draft status. And that's not putting extra pressure, that's 441 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 6: just what it is. 442 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: Those the facts. When your first round pick, you're expected 443 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: to play at a certain level. 444 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Taper Bryan was the first round pick too, by the way, 445 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: but he's long gone. 446 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's six seasons, but in that five 447 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 5: season range, exactly right. You've got four first round picks 448 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: invested in your front seven. It's time. 449 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 6: I mean it has to be like so we can 450 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: because we were talking about some of the conversation be well, 451 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 6: who can they get off the streets? I mean the 452 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 6: answer should come from within the locker room, the guys 453 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 6: that are already the guys that are always on the ross. 454 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 6: So yes, maybe you bring in a vet to enhance 455 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: that or add to that supplement that. 456 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: But one of those guys that we talked about has 457 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: to step up. 458 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 6: Josh Allen, Treymon Walker, Devin somebody has to step up. 459 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: And in a. 460 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 6: Perfect way, you need to have two double digit sack artists, 461 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: and so who are gonna be the guys that can 462 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 6: get sacks when we need them? 463 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 5: Curious. I don't think the books closed on Josh Allen yet, 464 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 5: meaning I'm not talking about his future. I'm not to talk 465 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: about the contract, but this will be the first time. 466 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 5: I'm assuming they're gonna be good offensively. Last year they 467 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: were good offensively, but if you remember the end of 468 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: that season, this team went nine to eight, and five 469 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: of their wins I'm kind of one of the playoff 470 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 5: games too. They had to come from behind by ten 471 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: points down in five of their ten wins. Well, being 472 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 5: down double digits is not necessarily a recipe for pass rushing. No, 473 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: so if this offense is better if you're playing with leads, 474 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 5: it realistically will be the first time that anybody on 475 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 5: this defense, the pass rushers, has played a lot in 476 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: that situation. It felt to me last couple of years 477 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: like Josh was close a lot. His stat pressures sort 478 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 5: of line up. 479 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: With that, certainly down the stretch last season. 480 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I like the kid a lot, and everybody 481 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 5: who knows him likes him and they're pulling for him. 482 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: He's a guy that you want. So maybe I'm a 483 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 5: little jaded by that, but I'm not so sure that 484 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 5: he still can't be at least a really really good 485 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 5: pass rusher. 486 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: Well, we're about to find out. Well in a few 487 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: months at least. Maybe not right now. OTAs are underway. 488 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 2: One more this week, three more next week for the 489 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: week after that maybe, and then the veteran mini camp 490 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: the week after that. That's the schedule ahead. And it's 491 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: John's favorite time of the year. It tops Christmas, I think, 492 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: And that's hard to do with John. 493 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: I love Christmas, but I love me unpadded work. It's 494 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 5: it's good stuff. And again i'd be I'd be really surprised. 495 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 5: Here's very many veterans here for that last one, but 496 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 5: it'll be a big week for the rookies. 497 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: Bucky, good to see you, man. 498 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. Man. 499 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 6: It's a lot of fun being down here with you guys, 500 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 6: being able to like see y'all face to face and 501 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 6: come to practice and do everything. I feel like I 502 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 6: need to do it more. I need to come down 503 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 6: morning to hang out. 504 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: In real estate in Jacksonville where uh we live here 505 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: back We're always here. 506 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 5: Anytime you get down. 507 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: Come on over swing in Yes, we can do that. 508 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: We can do that. We can do that, as. 509 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: Long as you make sure you take care of mee 510 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 6: those concert tickets for you're always reading stuff. 511 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: Bcelli has the couch access, you know. 512 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: That's I think. 513 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: I Oh he does. Okay, he doesn't really dole it 514 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: out too much. 515 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 5: He needs a cat. 516 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: That's John Oser, Bucky Brooks. I'm JP Shadwick are Thanks 517 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: to Joe Fortunado, and thanks to you for listening to 518 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: the Huddle podcast