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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocatesla dot com.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Kylie.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting and maybe get

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Speaker 2: him a second date. But first, Zach, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Kylie?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's been eleven days, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we'll tell us a little bit about it. How

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Speaker 2: many times you try to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: Probably I think four now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it was like four text messages or phone calls.

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Speaker 3: I started off with just like a you know, like

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Speaker 3: a funne up text message the next day, you know,

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Speaker 3: thanking her for a fun night, and then you reply.

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Speaker 3: So then I waited a few days, yeah, and then

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Speaker 3: this morning I did a little See now that I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking about it, it sounds like I'm totally at fault

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Speaker 3: and sound weird, but I played a little jazz riff

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Speaker 3: on my harmonica as a voice note and sent it

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Speaker 3: to her this warning.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you like her and that you're making

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Speaker 1: effort to get a hold of her. So now we

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Speaker 1: just got to figure out why she's not into it.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the date.

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Speaker 3: Sure, So we went to this rooftop jazz night hence

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Speaker 3: my harmonica thing. Okay, yeah, and we had a we

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Speaker 3: had a great time. She she completely dug it. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm really into jazz, so I enjoyed it in her company,

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Speaker 3: and then we grabbed some some tacos after. It just

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Speaker 3: was it felt like a movie because we like sat

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Speaker 3: on this curb and we're talking to each other with

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Speaker 3: these tacos in her hands, and the moon was out.

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Speaker 3: There's like hot sauce on our fingers. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: She didn't the weird stuff like I am, like I

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Speaker 3: collect old cereal boxes, vintage boxes. She was like respect,

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Speaker 3: you know, okayo. And she was asking me about it

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Speaker 3: and I showed her pictures and I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, she just made me feel good. When we

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Speaker 3: kissed also, and it was this for me at least,

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Speaker 3: this adorable moment because we were both kind of awkward,

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Speaker 3: but not in a bad way, not like it was

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Speaker 3: a bad kiss, but just like we were nervous and

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Speaker 3: both kind of like trying not to mess it up.

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Speaker 1: I like her, and you sound like a hopeless romantic

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Speaker 1: Why do you think you're getting ghosted?

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Speaker 3: She actually mentioned her ex just briefly, about how he

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Speaker 3: would like moisture his elbows and she likes it when

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Speaker 3: a man takes care of herself. And I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Zach.

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Speaker 2: Is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Kylie.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call her and see if she'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him

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Speaker 2: a second date. But before we do that, Zach, why

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Speaker 2: don't you break down your date for us one more time?

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Speaker 3: Sure went to a cool jazz place. It was the vibe,

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Speaker 3: had what I thought was very romantic moments, had tacos

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Speaker 3: on a curb, talked about each other, laughed, felt comfortable,

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Speaker 3: kissed awkwardly but in a sweet way. And I've been

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Speaker 3: trying to reach out a few times with kind of romantic,

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Speaker 3: sweet intentions and maybe maybe a little too much. I guess. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm the wife.

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Speaker 2: Ready for us to call her. Jeez, Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man,

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Speaker 2: I speak to Kylie? Please? Yeah, this is kind of Kylie.

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Speaker 2: How are you? This is the Jubil Show. It's a

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Speaker 2: radio show.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Kylie, my name is Nina. I am Victoria, and my

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Speaker 2: name's Jubil. How are you.

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I actually like listen to you guys sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool? Sweet. Well, guess what, Kylie, We got to

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Speaker 2: email about you from somebody an email. Yeah. We do

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Speaker 2: a segment on the show called the First Day follow Up.

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Speaker 2: That's where if you go on a date with somebody

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Speaker 2: and you end up ghosting them, they can email us

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Speaker 2: to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting.

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Speaker 2: And we got to email about you from somebody. Do

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Speaker 2: you know who that could be?

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Speaker 4: I think I know it's Zach, isn't it? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is Zach. He said he actually reached out

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Speaker 2: to you today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'd been getting their messages, okay, and you're not responding

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Speaker 2: to them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be an act. But yeah, like

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Speaker 4: I ghosted him. I'm not like trying to hide that

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us why you're ghosting him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So we went out and we went to like

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Speaker 4: this loose top jazz like sing and it was nice

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Speaker 4: and sweet, and then we like grab some tacos afterwards,

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Speaker 4: and everything was going great. He was like charming and

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Speaker 4: you know, funny and very sweet too. And then like

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Speaker 4: when we were like eating the tacos, we're talking and

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Speaker 4: then he grabs like a napkin and starts like drawing,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, out of nowhere, you know, I think, oh,

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Speaker 4: this is kind of cute, kind of like the you

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Speaker 4: know in Titanic, when like Leonardo is like drawing case

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Speaker 4: and I'm thinking maybe, like maybe you watch that, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, but you know, that wasn't

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Speaker 4: really the problem. The thing is when I looked at

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Speaker 4: the drawing, oh my god. And he keeps saying that

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Speaker 4: he's kind of like a little bit of artist. He

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Speaker 4: has like all these different hobbies. But like the way

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Speaker 4: that he drew me, I kind of like looked like

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Speaker 4: a melt with candle, like I had one eyeball like

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Speaker 4: this huge chin, and I you know, I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I thought at first it was like kind of like

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Speaker 4: a funny thing that he was doing, but I kind

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Speaker 4: of like made fun of it. I said, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: like this kind of like a Pocasso the Bastard type

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Speaker 4: of thing. And then he said like no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: you know, this is me. Looks don't matter at all,

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Speaker 4: Like you're just a good person and that's what matters.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa you are you trying to say that

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Speaker 4: I'm ugly? You know what I mean? And so he

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Speaker 4: became like really awkward.

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Speaker 1: Because he drew a melted picture of you. You think

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Speaker 1: he called you ugly?

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Speaker 5: No, no, because when I made fun of the drawing,

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Speaker 5: he took it like in the way, like he didn't

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Speaker 5: laugh at all, and he just kept trying to say like,

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Speaker 5: oh no, you're like a good person.

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Speaker 4: Inside and that's what matters. And he just kept going

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Speaker 4: and going saying things like that, you know, because.

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Speaker 2: He's not good at drawing, or you think he called you.

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Speaker 4: You're just if I think, like attraction is a big thing,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the relationship, and if he's not attracted

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Speaker 4: to me, like can I go for you? I don't

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Speaker 4: want to reship.

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Speaker 3: I know you guys said to be quiet, but I

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Speaker 3: just I'm I was like smiling so big from this

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Speaker 3: story and then all of a sudden, I'm like what no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: that picture that I that I drew. I was just

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Speaker 3: trying to be I guess, in my own odd way

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Speaker 3: deep in a way like it's it was an abstract

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Speaker 3: little thing. It's like I draw abstract art all the time.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to say that that I like you

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Speaker 3: for who you are.

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Speaker 2: Are you attracted to Kylie zach percent sounds like that

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Speaker 2: was her problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is crazy. I had no idea

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Speaker 3: that that was something in the moment. It was like

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Speaker 3: some emotional realism sketch I was.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to, well, do you think I'm like

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Speaker 4: an emotional person, like a tortured person like that, I

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Speaker 4: don't need a man to save me.

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Speaker 3: Like, look, I think you're beautiful despite all the emotional baggage.

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Speaker 4: Like that is not helping things at all. Like now

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Speaker 4: you're saying that I'm attracted but like a crazy person, Like.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm not saying that we're all hurt little

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Speaker 3: duck wings. I just want to take your wings and

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Speaker 3: mend them. Oh, just because I think you're a beautiful

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Speaker 3: person on the inside doesn't mean I don't think you're

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Speaker 3: beautiful on the outside. I think you're gorgeous. I want

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Speaker 3: you inside and out.

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Speaker 2: Hey, in that case, Kylie, would you like another date

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Speaker 2: for it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think like understanding and now it was

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Speaker 4: just kind of cute. But he talks a little two months,

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Speaker 4: you know, and the way he explains things is a

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Speaker 4: little unique. But like now I think I understand that,

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Speaker 4: you know, if he's nervous and and it's kind of cute, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like he really likes you, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's cute.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, all right, fantastic. I actually already have a spot

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Speaker 3: that I'm thinking about. So thank you, Thank you, Kylie.

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Speaker 3: And I promise if I draw you again, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to go for realism. I think this is the beginning

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Speaker 3: of your healing journey, Kylie, and I'm glad to walk

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Speaker 3: the path with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, congratulations