1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian. Did you see where nor Rad reported 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: how Santa appeared in the western sky rather early this year. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: I figured you probably got him lost. No. I was 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: driving the Car Doctor. In the event that I do 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: have an accident. If everybody, as you say, has a 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: cell phone, I'll count on them to call it in 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: because why would I take a chance on what you're 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: doing for me. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: and Nanian, the Car Doctor, since this is where car 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: owners the world will return to for their definitive opinion 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If you're mechanics giving you a busy signal, 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: at eight five and now are running? Did you see 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: the Facebook page? Hello? How are you? Did you see 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the Facebook post we put up about um well recent 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: article in the Wall Street Journal. I'll be quick. I 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: know we got a lot of phone calls this hour. 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Uh that talks about the ep A mileage standards. UM. 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Lesser, he is a he's president of Continental Economics, 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: and he's an adjunct fellow with the Manhattan Institute. There's 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: those guys from the Manhattan Institute. Again, I don't know. 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: They just keep coming up just common sense. Um and 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: at the risk of being you know, brow beaten and 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: and and yelled at because I actually posted this article 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: we put up on the Facebook page, and someone accused 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: me of well, it just weren't very kind. They had 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: to make a disparaging and comment about the fact that 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: how would I trust the Wall Street Journal Rupert Murdoch, 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: why all of a sudden, I mean, listen, I know 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: it's all right, the question news organizations and stuff, But 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: I looked into it. Everything in this article about how 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: the e PAS mileage standards are a stealth electric vehicle mandate, 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense. There are federal tax credits 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: to buy electric vehicles. Did you know that they're they're 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: showing favoritism. There was an increase in the mandate. The 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: federal government did say by the model years. They point 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: out in this article that the you know, fleet fuel 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: economy has to reach those miles per gallon, which is 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: almost impossible given our our love and desire to drive 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: big vehicles in this country. And the article just made sense. 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: But yet we're we're picking on this article, but just 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: because it appears in the whole Street Journal. We don't 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: want to look at the facts. And that's kind of 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: scary that we're all just so stuck on. Well, we're 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna follow, you know, we're gonna be sheep and follow. 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: What the uh what what we're being told is gonna work? 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's changing. This article is a must 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: read in the Wall Street Journal. It's up on our 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Facebook page. You can read it there. Um, it's it's 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: just a must read. You know, they're going to change 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: what you drive based on what they think you need 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: to drive. They're gonna do it simply. But you can't 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: get parts my old four suburban. Now here's a vehicle 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: that Okay, I realize it's probably one of the more 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: pampered vehicles in the country right now. Um, an old 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: for subourban is just about the rack eighty thousand miles 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: that just turned seventy nine thousand miles. I needed a 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: remote key fob this week. The remote key fob gave up. 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: The ghost GM no longer has any they they part 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: went obsolete last year or the year before that. I 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: was I was really surprised because how many you know, 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: oh three to oh eight, I think it was suburbans 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: or Silverado suburbans, all the trucks in that class of fit. 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: How many of those were out there obsolete? Okay, And 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: just for giggles, I've noticed, uh, you know, not for giggles, 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: but I've noticed that the A C heater control head 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: is starting to flicker. The fluorescent is starting to get 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: beat up, and it's not doing what it's supposed to do. 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: So I know that's on its way, and you know 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: it's stuff. It's twenty years old now, and I get it. 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: The electronics are getting tired, and you know, what do 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: you do? Where do you find replacement parts? I'll tell 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: you who's gonna make a ton of money is the 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: secondary market. I looked. I found it. Dorman makes it, 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Dormant Products dot Com. They make a remote key fob, 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: they make an A C heater control head. You're gonna 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: see these companies that are smart and that are engineering 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: and changing the way. Dormant isn't keeping up with the times, 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, in what they're producing, you're gonna 81 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: see these companies, uh, make a whole lot more of 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the transition um, you know, to maintain the vehicles and 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: keep them on the road rather than just make the 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: transition to electric vehicle. So, you know, thank god for 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: companies like Dorman. But that article, come on, let's read it. 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: You know what, politics aside. I'm not trying to make 87 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: this a political show, but read it. The comments are there, 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: the comments are real, all right. There are electric vehicle 89 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: tax credits out there for e vs, and you and 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: I are paying for it, and we have the right 91 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: to know that. Unless you want to stick your head 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: in the sand, um and just ignore it. I leave 93 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: that up to you. But I'm trying to keep this 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: show as non political as I can. So anyway, let's 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Paul and Virginia n anyone 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Bronco and some problems with RPM. Paul, Welcome to the 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes? Are Uh? Yeah, 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: I've got this ninety one Bronco's actually the silver Anniversary model. 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: It's very rare, uh as you drive down the road. Uh. 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: And I thought it might be a lock up converter 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: for what it's doing. And so I've tried it with 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: with with it switched off and just the left to 103 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: three speed and it still does it. But and what 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: it does is your cruise along and you might be 105 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: just shy of two thousand r p ms and it'll 106 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: drop like three four pms and it feels like somebody 107 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: flipped the switch and it's rapid on off, on off, 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: And we'll do this, oh four, maybe five times, and 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: then it's finished doing that and it didn't lose speed 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: at all, and we'll do it with cruise or without cruise. 111 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Does it feel like the engine is cutting out or 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: you're just saying it it feels like it's changing gear? Well, oh, 113 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: that's that's it. I can't. It felt like it might 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 1: be you know, well, is this so you know going 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: in and out of lock up? But I um, I 116 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: took that out of the equation, and so it must 117 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: be engine related. Okay, so this this is what this 118 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: is a four speed transport? Yes, all right, So it's 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: got it's got a switch on the you know, it's 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: got three on the quadrant right, and then it's if 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: you hold it and draw, if you keep if you 122 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: keep lock up off, it still does it correct? Is 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: it is? It? Does the vehicle have to hit a 124 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: certain speed in order for it to do it? Well, 125 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: I've never I've never noticed it, you know, under that 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: could be, all right, So you know, is it is it? 127 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: If we got it in third gear and third gear 128 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, start playing with rpm. I know where I'm 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna take you with this. I just I just want 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: to get an answer to a couple of things. Um, 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you take it in third gear and 132 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: lug third gear all the way down holding in third gear, 133 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: is it happening there? Or does it have to be 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: above fifty five hour when this actually when this condition 135 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: actually occurs. Yeah, I've never noticed it, you know, like 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: fifty or below. I've never noticed it doing. Okay, So 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: a couple of things I wanted as well. I'd really 138 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: like to know, just for the heck of it, I 139 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: want to know what's good. I'd love you to hook 140 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: up and it's pretty easy to do if you've got 141 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: want to hook up a fuel pressure gage, take it 142 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: to the windshield and watch fuel pressure while this is happening. 143 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: All right, just just so I know, all right, does 144 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: fuel pressure remain a constant if we see fuel pressure change? 145 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Because if we see fuel pressure change, just you know, 146 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: we're just watching a change, it will do just what 147 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: you're describing, all right, it will affect our PM. It 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: will effect how the transhifts, It will affect a variety 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: of things. I don't think it is, but I just 150 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: want to know when it's a quick and easy, simple thing. 151 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: What I always tell you guys, sometimes knowing what's good 152 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: tells you what's bad. All right, does it? Does the 153 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: truck ever stole and get to the point where it's 154 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: a crank no start? Uh? Lately? Yeah? It may stall 155 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: when you first started up and you put it into reverse. Okay, okay? 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: And and I thought that that would be because the 157 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: RPMs were not any higher when you first started then 158 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: when it's fully warm, So I I think, well cool 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: attempt sense or there's a five O five, there's a 160 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: five eight. So this isn't eat. This is an eek 161 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: four car. Grounds are critical on this car. What do 162 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: the what do the battery cables look like? I'm gonna 163 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: ask you goofy questions. They're good, Okay, they're good. And 164 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: it's got a it's got a recent motocraft battery. Okay, 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: the there's a there's a pigtail coming all right, listen 166 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: to me. There's a pigtail coming off the negative battery cable. 167 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: All right, there's a small pigtail that goes from the 168 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: from the battery to the radiator supporter of the fender. Well, correct, Oh, 169 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: there's a little ground there. That ground has to be 170 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: absolutely clean, tight, and a good solid connection. That ground 171 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: is reference ground voltage for the EEK four processor. Lose 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: that and you'll see the truck do all kinds of 173 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: weird things. Yeah, and that looks a little bit rusty. 174 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: So let's pay attention to that on the back of 175 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: each on the back of each cylinder head, if I 176 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: remember right, and I might be wrong on this, in 177 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: just verify if there are grounds at the cylinder head 178 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: at the rear, and they're they're a real pain. They're 179 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: a real pain in the butt to get to. Are 180 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: they tight? Are they there? Has? Uh? Has that? And 181 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: this is a little bit harder to look at them. 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: Probably probably the same way, right, So let's verify grounds 183 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: are critical on that vehicle, all the grounds because the 184 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: EAT processor doesn't respond well to lack of ground. Okay, 185 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: go through the grounds. Make sure they're all good, clean, solid, 186 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: every one of them. Okay, make sure I would voltage 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: drop test the battery ground cable where it goes to 188 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: the block. Make sure that's a good, solid, positive connection. 189 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: And I hate to say the word positive when we're 190 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: talking about a ground but you get my point. Okay, 191 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: last thing, completely unrelated. Take the distributor cap off, all right. 192 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Look inside the distributor cap you know where the this 193 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: has an ignited module mounted to the distributor or The 194 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: ignition module is mounted to the fender. Well, no, it's right, Ontribuka, 195 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: It's not my favorite place where it. So take the 196 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: distributor cap off. Is there any oil inside the distributor? 197 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: All right? And if there is, look at the Look 198 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: at that connection that hall effect that that is a 199 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Hall effects stator, all right? Is the is the rubber 200 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: connector that's there that the module plugs into. Can you 201 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: push your fingernail into it? Is it soft and gooey 202 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: or is it rock hard? It should be hard. If 203 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: it's soft and gooey. Take the ignition module off. Do 204 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: you peel the connector with it when you come off? 205 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Is there a possibility that those connector terminals are touching 206 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: because that rubber boot has deteriorated? That was a real 207 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: common stall effect back in the day. Okay, you're talking 208 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: about the seal where the connector goes to the module correct, Okay, 209 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: all right, you won't see it. You won't see it 210 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: unless you're either gonna pull the cap off, which I 211 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: want you to pull the cap off and look for 212 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: oil in there, or you're gonna verify. You're gonna verify 213 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: by taking the module off and looking underneath. And when 214 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: you remount the module, make sure you've got some dielectric 215 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: grease to mount it to the distributor with so the 216 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: module doesn't get hot. All right, I want you to 217 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: do it. I want you to do a throttle body cleaning. 218 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: I want you to take the idle air control motor off, 219 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: which is a pain in the butt, and I want 220 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: you to verify that it's it's it's clean, that it's 221 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: got no carbon deposits in it. And then I want 222 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: you to disconnect both battery cables, tie them together and 223 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: do a relearn and let let this thing learn its 224 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: idle speed. When you start this truck cold, you should 225 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: see a cold, fast idle on this. All right, this 226 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be struggling to maintain our PM. All of those 227 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: inputs can have an effect on trans operation. Let me 228 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause. You go do those things, 229 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: call me back. Next week, let me know where we stand. Alright, kiddo, 230 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: you'd be well, I'm running naming the car doctor. We're 231 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: back right after this vehicle not taking you where you 232 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: want to go? Well call Ron. He's an expert at 233 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: making your vehicle take you where you needed. Five five 234 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: zero zero zero. And now back to Ron. Hey, let's 235 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: get over to Brian in New Jersey with a seventeen 236 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Mustang wants to talk about cooling. Brian, Welcome to the 237 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: car Doctor, sir. How can I help? How you doing? Ron? 238 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: Happy New Year? Um? I have a two thousand seventeen 239 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Mustang g T and I'm coming up on the five 240 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: year mark for for maintenance and I wanted to do 241 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: a cooling flush or you change the cooling. So on investigation, 242 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: I found out that Ford has changed the coolant from 243 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: orange to yellow. And you can't mix that with tap water. 244 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: You have to use the still water. And uh, I 245 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: don't think I can do that at home. I can 246 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, I can just drain it and refill it. 247 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: That's not going to get me anywhere where I want 248 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: to go. It's it just seems like I'm not going 249 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: to be able to get enough out now and and 250 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: you know the issue here is, you know, first of all, 251 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: and a couple of comments, I don't understand why they 252 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: went from orange to yellow, because do you know what 253 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: their other colored cooling does? Gold? So it's it's either 254 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: orange yellow gold. Well, green and orange got condensed to yellow. 255 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: So now there are two coolings available from Ford yellow 256 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: or gold. How good are your eyes? You know that, right? 257 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: But but you know, think of think of how many 258 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the potential for something. You know, you'll count on what 259 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: color is it? How many people are going to count 260 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: on what color is it is to what to put 261 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: in it? And it's it's crazy. So to direct to 262 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: your question, when you drain a radiator on the average vehicle, 263 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: you get out about a third. That's all you get out, 264 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: all right. And you know if you were to pull 265 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: the core plugs on the block, you'll get out the 266 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: other third and the rest of it's between the hoses 267 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: in the heater corps. So the only way to really 268 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: do this is a shop with a machine, and you've 269 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: got to hope that they're really gonna do it. I 270 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: know more than a few shops that well, they'll they'll 271 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: sell a cool in exchange, but they don't even own 272 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: a machine, or they'll own the machine, they'll never use it. 273 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: So it's I hate to be disparaging about my chosen industry, 274 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: but I you know, I've learned to be I've learned. Yeah, absolutely, 275 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: um absolutely, um. You know it's I can tell you 276 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: from experience what it will take. Um is this This 277 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: isn't a this isn't um a supercharge version. This is 278 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: just a regular V eight uh performance pack. It's a 279 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: little big, bigger radiator. But it's like, right, yeah, we 280 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: just went through this on a m We had an oh, 281 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: let me think what the heck was that. It was 282 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: an O eight rows supercharge GT that had been sitting 283 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: for about eight years, and we just went through an 284 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: exchange service on that. That was a little bit more 285 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: complicated because of the supercharger connection. And that's actually, and 286 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm still researching it, there's actually a separate cooling for 287 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: that that nobody can tell me what it is because 288 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: of the supercharger. So that's that's a whole another you know, 289 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. But yeah, now you're you're 290 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: trying to do it right as far as yeah, I wanted, 291 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: I want to do it right. But I mean I couldn't. 292 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: I could do it the easy way and just drain 293 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: it and sell it and wait six months and drain 294 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: it and sell it and do it over and over. 295 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: And the other thing you're gonna see is I believe 296 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: they're going to try and convince you that the orange 297 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: coolant is good for ten years. I don't if you, well, 298 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: the orange is good for five. And they said the yellow, 299 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: if you get it like in a new car, it'll 300 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: be good for ten years. But they said if you 301 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: change it out, it's still only good for the five years. Yeah, 302 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I you know, I just keep seeing varying messages about 303 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: what or how long these coolings are good for. Yeah, 304 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of where my mind is. I think, you know, 305 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: we get to a point of um, I don't understand. 306 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: For example, and again it's an engineer writing this in 307 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: a perfect in a laboratory where Toyota, for example, all right, 308 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: I know this is fact where Toyota will say they're 309 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: super long life. Pink cooling is good for ten years, 310 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: but when you replace it now, it's only good for five. 311 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what the rational is. I've seen 312 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: conversation where they say, well, it's an older system, it's 313 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: it's got some degradation to it. Um, you know, just 314 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: just change it every five years. Why do we have 315 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: to make such a production out of this? Problems are 316 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: already gone out and bought the cooling and the the eyewater. 317 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Now is anybody just going to say, Okay, you can 318 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: bring your own cooling and bring you the eyewater. I 319 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: mean that still water and we'll do it. Yeah. I 320 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna matter. I think as long as 321 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: it's as long as it's Ford coolant, I don't think. 322 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't think a better shop is gonna care. Uh 323 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, I would also use tell you the truth, 324 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: I kind of cheat. That's one of the reasons I 325 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: have a water cooler in the shop. I have the 326 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: ionized water, and um, well that makes it makes sense 327 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to do it like that, yeah, we 328 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, for for people that want it, we will 329 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: take the five gallon drug off port in the machine 330 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: and make it work. So but you're trying to do 331 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: it right, kiddo. And while you while you're at it, 332 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking about cool and think about break fluid, think 333 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: about some of the other fluids. You're there as long 334 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: as you're doing all the maintenance, you might as well 335 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: do it and get it done, because it sounds like 336 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: you want to hang onto this car. And I understand 337 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: why I'm running anating in the car. Doctor. We're back 338 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. Name the 339 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: card doctor zero. Let's get back to New Jersey again. 340 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Dennis on nine. Chevy Tahoe. Dennis, 341 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: welcome a board, sir. How can I help well? Chevy 342 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: here by the way, thank you to you too. And 343 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: I sent you an email on one of what my 344 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: problem was and what I've done so far. Okay, this 345 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: is that I got it, got it. I'm cutting my head, 346 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: bagging my head against the wall. Okay, let me let 347 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: me let me highlight for everybody what's going on out there. 348 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Dennis sent me an email and now he's here on 349 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: the show. So you've got fault. You've got a heater 350 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: or control circuit fault for the bank one censor to 351 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: O two centsor correct, you had a thirty six or 352 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: fifty four one if I remember correctly, right, And you've 353 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: changed censors and you've you've changed computers, and you've been 354 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: kind of around this vehicle three or four times and 355 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: here we are right, fair statement. Okay. So when you 356 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: look at the wiring diagram on this car, remember fuse eight. 357 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take you through some basics, okay, because 358 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: everything's pointing towards a heat or control fault or a 359 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: circuit fault with with with the that bank one sensor 360 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: to correct? Did you look at and I know you 361 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: tested for power. Did you just happen to look at 362 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: fuse number eight? Did you pull the terminal out in 363 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: the underhood fuse block and look at the terminals? And 364 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: the terminals are good, clean and tight? Good with the 365 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: terminal eight team, okay, And according to old data, fusday 366 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: does census right, correct? It does. People. When I pulled 367 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: the fuse out when my cancer was on, it shut 368 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: down the okay, So that tells me that the fuse 369 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: is good. So what if we do this? All right? 370 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Think of that wiring diagram. You've got ground control at 371 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: pin eleven and pin forty nine on the E C 372 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: M right, a tan white and a tan What if 373 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: what if we swamp those What if we swamp those 374 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: ground control wires? Oh? So let's the computer will think 375 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: is grounding out right Bank one, the bank one, but 376 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: it's actually doing bank too correct. Where does it go? 377 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Does it follow the computer? Does it follow the wiring? 378 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: So if you were to, and I'm not I'm not 379 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: saying take the connector apart, you could do it, but 380 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: it's a little tedious. Can you find a spot in 381 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: the wiring harness you know, let's be lazy six inches 382 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: away from the computer, but in a good spot that 383 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: if you cut each wire you can solder it back 384 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: together nice and neat and just just let the computer 385 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: ground the other side. If if, if it starts to 386 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: come up with heat or control faults for circuit for 387 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: censor number two downstream, we know it's in the wiring 388 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: up two and down from the power distribution box up 389 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: to the PCM. If it still comes up with a 390 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: fault for Bank one sensor two. As much as you 391 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: don't want to hear this, because full disclosure in your email, 392 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: you said you changed a couple of with a couple 393 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: of used PCMs, it's either PCM or to the original 394 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: one the right. I don't see how this can be 395 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: a ground issue for the PCM because you should be 396 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: as you said in your email, correctly, you would think 397 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: you would see other circuit faults. Yes, so I think 398 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna find that. Let's prove. Let's prove, and that's 399 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: what this will do. If you switch those ground controls, 400 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: that will prove that the PCM has the ability to 401 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: control that circuit properly. And I think you're going to 402 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: see a fault code for the other sensor, which means 403 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: that if it changes to the other sensor, then it's 404 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: the E C M. If it stays on the minute, 405 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: if you see this thing on the other sensor because 406 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: you swumped the wires and you know it's the wine 407 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: from em down to the right. We're gonna use the 408 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: bank too. We're gonna use that. We're gonna use the 409 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: bank to downstream sensor control on the bank one downstream sensor, 410 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see that circuit either pass or fail, 411 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: and that will tell us where we have to go. Uh. 412 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing I think I called you. I don't 413 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: want to start cutting any wires back. Probing is one thing, 414 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: but cutting you wanted to stay away to usaid, let 415 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: me talk to somebody. When you get an older vehicle 416 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: and you're at this point, sometimes this is sometimes this 417 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: is the quickest and easiest way if it were in 418 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: a shop, unless you've got a lab scope and you 419 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: can monitor your your your signals because it's a pulse 420 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: with modulated signal. A lab scope would be the wonderful 421 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: tool here. But you know, we've got ways around it. 422 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: We can we can make it so that you can 423 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: still work on it. And that's where I would go, 424 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: all right, because when when when that backprobe did at 425 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: the c M, the one that did the bank too, 426 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: it was actually the test I was poking bright, but 427 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: on bank it was possing them. Right. Is that being 428 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: is that being affected by the circuit it's owner? Is 429 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: that being affected by the PCM. Now you're gonna know. 430 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: I got you, all right, and then I guess tell me, 431 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: tell me what you come up with now, But you know, 432 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: can you solder? Okay? Just asking? All right? You want 433 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: to you want to solder? You want to solder and 434 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: heat shrink this. I don't want to get you in 435 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: trouble and put you in a corner. You know a 436 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of people will do that, um, but just make 437 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: sure obviously when you sawder it back together, you heat 438 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: shrink it. You don't want to butt connected. All right, 439 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: let's see where this goes. I have seen cases where 440 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: that power distribution block that that fuse, that fuse is 441 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: plugged in, has an issue on the inside, and it's 442 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: that power distribution block, that underhead fuse block. It would 443 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: not be it would not be the most impossible thing. 444 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: And this will tell us. My my other issue is 445 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: that to connected two cents at the bottom when the 446 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: hook up a test like it's testing at the connector 447 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: on the two center right, yeah, but you're not checking 448 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: the girl. I know the power is going down to 449 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: the sensor. Just the ground chuck is not right. This 450 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: will tell us mm hmm. And then it's the wires. 451 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: The wire's pinch could affect something. Sure, this will tell 452 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: us the wire loom, no accident. Well, before you start 453 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: analyzing it sitting here on the phone, denis, do what 454 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: I do. What I told you. See what you come 455 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: up with. This is this is called This is called 456 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: right switch them all right. This is called working smarter, 457 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: not harder. All right, all right, you do that, you 458 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: call me back problem, So good luck to you, easy pas. 459 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: Before we hang up. You see what cold wires? Did 460 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: you say they were? Well, get yourself a wiring diagram. 461 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: See you follow it, but it should be tan and 462 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: a tan white you want to be and you're on 463 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: the right connectors, all right, So I'm gonna download it. 464 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: I signed up with old data, and old data for 465 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: the duncting sensors is great. It says here white and 466 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: orange white. Now to my knowledge, that's if I remember correctly. 467 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: Go back and look at it. If you're talking about 468 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: a an on nine Tahoe, you should be looking at 469 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: it should be connector X one if I if I 470 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: call correctly, and it's gonna be tan white and tan. 471 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: So make sure you're on the right harness, do this, 472 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: do this, Okay, I'm looking. I'm looking at it right 473 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: now as we speak. White is for the sense and 474 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: not of the heater. No, tan white is for the heater. 475 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: It's for the relay control. Okay, So ten and tan white. Um, yeah, 476 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: I saw the X one. Um. Actually, you're you know what? 477 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: I take that back. I believe you are correct. It's 478 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: gray white and orange white, right, that's the two colors 479 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: you're seeing. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing on old data. 480 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I just don't want to double 481 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: checks because I say, but this pictures right now, do 482 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: this to Dennis. Unplugged that O two censor and verify 483 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: that you read only a bias voltage to make sure 484 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: you're on the right sensor. All right, you're with me now, yep, okay, 485 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: you do that. You call me back. Will you want 486 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: to be on the heat or control leg the orange 487 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: orange orange because Peak sees it and then orange white 488 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: and gray white is what the control correct So slump 489 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: those two slump those two wires, the gray white cutting. Yeah, 490 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't have the solder if you want to, 491 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: just you want to just cut him and tie them 492 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: together for the purpose of this test. That's fine, all right, 493 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: all right, sounds good, you're sure, Dennis. I just want 494 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: to make sure positive. Okay, alright, you call me back 495 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: up them out if if it's still on the same side, 496 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: then we know it's upstren to the c M. Right. 497 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: It's if it follows the wire, then we know it's 498 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: the wire. Right, That's what we're trying to prove. All right, 499 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Because I think you're gonna find I think I think 500 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna find it's not in the E c M. 501 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find it's in the wiring. And 502 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: then what I'm gonna do just run a new ground 503 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: wire down to the How you could do that? Sure 504 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: that in the wire looms the thing right? All right, 505 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate that. You're very welcome, Dennis. Good 506 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: look Zero, we're back right after this clocome back running 507 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: into the car. Doctor. You know, I'm reading this Wall 508 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: Street Journal article. Uh there in the pause that we 509 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: were talking about, and it's an interesting statement. He's about 510 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: two paragraphs and the real purpose of higher fuel efficient 511 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: and see standards is to impose an electric vehicle mandate 512 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: by regulatory Fiat because there's a little chance Congress will 513 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: enact legislation banning the sale of internal combustion vehicles. Yeah, 514 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: I can't see that ever happening. Um, how could they 515 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: do that? Meeting the news standards a fuel economy will 516 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: be a challenge for automakers to paraphrases. Through the first 517 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: nine months, a sixty electric vehicles and plug and hybrids 518 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: were sold in the entire US. Sales in California buoyed 519 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: by state sub California buoyed by state subsidies. Subsidies accounted 520 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: for almost half of that total. By comparison, Ford Motor 521 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Company sold about five hundred and thirty five thousand pickup 522 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: trucks during the same nine month period. So you know 523 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: the issue as I read this article that they're gonna 524 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: come up with him. By the way, we had research. 525 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: Kathy pulls some numbers. Uh, there are EV tax credits 526 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: currently out there. UM. Some of them are in the 527 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Build Back Better Bill. Again, trying not to be political, 528 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what what the news is, UM. 529 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: But they are in the Build Back Better bill. There 530 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: are some EV tax credits in there. UM. There's up 531 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: to a twelve thousand and cent if UM on electric 532 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: vehicles available if the bill passes, and there are some currently. 533 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: There are some other uh you know, UM tax and 534 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: centers for electric vehicles currently UM and acted. You can 535 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: you know read it. I think it's fueled dout Economy 536 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: dot gov where they're talking about it. So but clearly 537 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: the UM uh, the issues with evs are coming about. 538 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: UM as far as yes, there are some, there are 539 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: tax credits available for these. And listen, you've got to 540 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: be aware of what's going on. They're they're making major changes. 541 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying good or bad. I'm just telling you 542 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: what I'm reading. And uh, you know, don't stick your 543 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: head in the sand. Uh, use it to use it 544 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: to absorb what's going on out there. Um. The article 545 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: continues that there's a cost factor. Electric vehicles are more 546 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: expensive than internal combustion vehicles. Hey, the article said it. 547 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. The average electric vehicles sold for about fifty 548 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars in September of last year, eleven thousand 549 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: dollars more than the average internal combustion vehicle. Electric vehicle 550 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: prices have been increasing, not decreasing, as many proponents predicted. Tesla, 551 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: which accounts for more than half of all EV sales, 552 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: has raised prices on some of its models three times 553 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: this year. This is this was last year. Now one. 554 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Growing electric vehicle sales worldwide, and supply constraints are causing 555 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: material prices to increase. The Price for lithium, a key 556 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: component electric vehicle batteries, has increased in the last year. 557 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: Huh look at that. I mean things are going up, 558 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: things are coasting more, and you know, and then then 559 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: we've got another article here that Tesla has recalled a 560 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: half a million electric cars. Have you heard about that? Uh, 561 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: this just came out towards the end of last year, 562 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Tesla's recording four and seventy model three model less electric 563 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: cars for review camera and trunk issues that increase the 564 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: risk of crashing. You know, you didn't hear a lot 565 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: about this. I didn't. I didn't see a lot of 566 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: play on this in the media and the news, and 567 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, we don't want to 568 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: talk about it, like we mentioned it and it was 569 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: gone from the national scene. But if this was a 570 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: domestic if this was a Ford to GM or a 571 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Chrysler or whatever, we'd be all over this for days 572 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: and days and days. I don't get it. It's you know, look, 573 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: I think there is purpose clearly to electric vehicles. I 574 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: think there's there's a reason. I think there's a place 575 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: for them. I think, you know, as I said continuously, 576 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: root vehicles. You know, um uh ups, male FedEx the 577 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: vehicles that are driven every day over specified routes. But 578 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: I think as a be all, end all solution. Um 579 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: where was I reading it? And again it came out 580 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: again this week and I thought we posted it to 581 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: the Facebook page talk about the the cost of and 582 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: the price of lithium and oh is national Geographic National Geographic. 583 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: What a bunch of radicals they are right um talking 584 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: about the constraints and the problems with rare materials required 585 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: and where they're coming from. For uh uh, you know 586 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: the construction of batteries and the lithium does come from China. 587 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: Read that in the article too. That's a whole another 588 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get political, Tom, I'm gonna throw 589 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: my hat in the ring. Ron for President ronanading the 590 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: card doctor zero zero. We're back right after this. Don't 591 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: go away, welcome back, run any card off. You know, 592 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: there's a method to my madness and I realized it's 593 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: And I love some of the questions on Facebook. We 594 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: just had one from Decimon and Ron. You didn't ask 595 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: the guy with the ninety two wish Bronco if he 596 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: had checked for any code. No, I didn't, And you 597 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: know why, because an older vehicle like that, I'd be 598 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: shocked if that vehicle didn't have some sort of fault 599 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: codes in it. And before we go running after codes 600 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: on an older vehicle like that, I want to look 601 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: at the basics because I want to know that all 602 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: the grounds are there. I want to know that the 603 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: grounds are good, clean and tight, and I want to 604 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: just look at some of the obvious faults and failures. 605 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: Let's see what's there, clear everything out, and then start over. 606 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: When he calls back, trust me, I'll mention it to 607 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: him then. But don't think I'm I'm not slipping. I'm 608 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: just uh, I'm just trying to be mindful of what's 609 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: what's going on, you know. So just but I appreciate that, 610 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: I really do. I I you know, it's great that 611 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: we can interact with you guys up here on Facebook 612 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: and the messages in the comments. So, UM, anyway, that's that. 613 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: Um listen, that's gonna wind it down. This hour is 614 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: we're kind of winding things down. I want you guys 615 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: to be aware going forward in the new year, you know, 616 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: working on your cars, be aware of what you're doing, 617 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: making sure that um, well, you know you're gonna see changes. 618 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna see some things, uh be different, You're going 619 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: to you know, uh, you're gonna see some radical stuff 620 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: this year. You really are in the way cars are produced, marketed, um, 621 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: brought to market designed because we're in the age of 622 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: change and they're going to make The car industry has 623 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: always been political. They're gonna make it even more political. Um, 624 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: it's becoming a hot button topic. And in a lot 625 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,959 Speaker 1: of ways, UM, things that we just have to watch 626 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: that that's part of our our our right and our ability. 627 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: One of the things I keep thinking about is, you know, 628 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: I watch people work on cars, and I see all 629 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: of you that are still trying to work on their cars, 630 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: and I give you a lot of credit, and I 631 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: see what's going on, and I look at the technology 632 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: and I say, um, I keep thinking about the inner city. 633 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to it? Ever been you know, 634 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: around the inner City and where I live, right, parts 635 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: of Newark, parts of the Bronch parts of New York City, 636 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: where they're working on cars on the street, and what 637 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to do on the street, because you know, 638 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: not everybody's got two thousand dollars to go and repair 639 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: a car or a thousand dollars to go and repair 640 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: a car. And you look at the changes and what 641 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: they're trying to put up with and and and accomplish. 642 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: How will they do that on a very complicated, newer 643 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: style electric vehicle? And you know, again, electric vehicles have 644 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: their place, but just are they for everybody? Is that 645 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: the right choice. Is that the right way to go? 646 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: Are we supporting the masses? Are we supporting the select few? 647 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: I just wonder, I just I Still I'm not convinced 648 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: it's the mass, the cure for the masters. Until the 649 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: next time I'm run A naming of the car doctor, 650 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Happy New Year, 651 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: see you